cases-psu-and-cooling

[crimson galleon]

I looked all over Google, i can't even find a listing for the mesh, all of them are for the air

Is this the mesh?

The lan cool won't get here in time either

I like the lan cool as well

Uhggg

[hollow gale]

I just moved my wife's pc to P300A. I dont know if its the same for other models, but the build quality of the P300A is quite terrible. If I had not gotten the case for free I would be quite upset

[fierce pivot]

Oof

[hollow gale]

The metal is VERY thin.

[outer folio]

yea

[hard escarp]

I have been VERY satisfied with my Phanteks Enthoo Pro M case over the years ive had it. it wasnt until i had to juryrig my current Mobo in there that i have had an issue

[fierce pivot]

Oof

[wind cliff]

anyone have any opinons on evga g3 and evga gq, the evga gq is $20 cheaper

[vestal gulch]

hi i am sort of new to pc world i currently have asus 2080 ti turbo/i7 9900k aorus z390 pro wifi mb...is there a recommended watt psu i should be running and if so how do you determine what is good for what you are running i have a 750 already and was thinking about upgrading to 850 is why i ask..

[outer folio]

G3 has many protections set incorrectly, avoid. GQ is a cheap FSP unit, really loud, fails transient tests, and one of the units melted during testing

@vestal gulch 750w is enough for those components, why would you need to upgrade?

[weary vine]

750 works

[vestal gulch]

I only wanted to upgrade because i want a fully modular

[fierce pivot]

Fully modular especially over semi modular is not really an upgrade and is honestly a waste of your money lol

[late widget]

Hey guys, what case would you recommend? I need to a bigger one. It won't fit my 3070, and that's in the stepup program for a 3090 (if that ever happens). I'm open to RGB but it isn't an absolute. I do need space. I have a ATX MB, 5600x and a 850 Corsair PSU. I've got a CD/DVD drive in my current case... but honestly it's never used so i figure that's out the door. Suggestions?

[hollow gale]

If it for aesthetics, you can just get sleeved extensions

[minor portal]

TwaJfk#6762 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[scenic lance]

can I plug my Asiahorse Customization Mod Sleeve Extension Power Supply Cables straight into my fully modular psu

[outer folio]

no

[scenic lance]

alr thx

[vocal tree]

https://tenor.com/view/saussiçon-explode-boom-gif-16089684

[scenic lance]

I'm going to be selling a Raidmax Ninja ll soon, it still has its stock fans, what do you all think a fair price would be - I'm thinking $45 - $50

[outer folio]

idk i wouldn't buy that at $50

[fierce pivot]

I'd say 15-20$

[echo socket]

My CX550M is whiny and I was recommended a Xilence Performance X (650W) for a budget replacement a while ago. (see PC specs in nickname)
I've checked on the LTT list and it isn't ranked blue, which I understand means it is noticeably loud under operation? Still on the fence about buying it.

[elfin trout]

Blue means relatively quiet, anything that's not blue means it's not relatively quiet, I think the criteria is under 35dBa, I'll check. Testing should also have been done on fan noise if you care about it, and normally the issue is fan noise, not coil whine.

"Blue - Quiet operation. Sub 30 dBa under moderate load i.e 300W at 12V rail for <=500W units, 400W for 501-749W units, 500W for =>750W units with 30-50W load on minor rails, and sub 20 dBa under low load (idle), i.e 100W at 12V rail and 15-20W load on minor rails. Stock or after manual configuration using software or fan mode switch button."

I'll check testing on the specific psu

@echo socket

Link to review:
https://www.technic3d.com/review/netzteile/2018-xilence-performance-x-netzteil-mit-650-watt-im-test/1.htm

[echo socket]

n i c e

thanks!!

As for the coil whine, I was told my combination of xx60 GPU with that specific PSU was bad or smth, and that's why there is coil whine. I don't quite remember.

[elfin trout]

CXm just has a known coil whine issue

[echo socket]

ah good to know

[outer folio]

due to it's inferior topology ^^

[elfin trout]

don't know why it whines, don't really care, all I need to know is that it's whiney xD

[vocal tree]

its parents give preferential treatment to its older brother, cx

[peak oasis]

Is the P500A worth it?

[opal night]

Yes

[peak oasis]

Whats the diff between p400a and p500a?

I was gonna go for P400A but i thought of P500A if its worth it

Whats the diff between the 2?

[opal night]

Size

P500A is bigger, more room inside

[peak oasis]

Ohokok

[opal night]

My P500A

[ruby yacht]

So now that the 3070ti has been announced should I upgrade me PSU?

[peak oasis]

Ooohhh

[ruby yacht]

5 year old cosair CX600m

[opal night]

Announced but not tested

We need power draw figures

[peak oasis]

Maybe upgrade to be safe?

[ruby yacht]

I'm pretty sure it said 600w

[opal night]

no

290W TDP

Almost the same as a 3080

It probably wont have the same transients but we don't know yet

It also has more power hungry GDDR6X

[ruby yacht]

yeah 290w

I'm thinking I should probably upgrade to a 750w psu

[opal night]

Maybe, if it has high transients like the 3080, 3080's trip protections in some 750W PSU's

[ruby yacht]

So for a 3080 i'd need a higher W psu?

[opal night]

Usually 850W. 750W might be fine for a 3070TI but we don't know yet

Just wait until you get a card XD

[fierce pivot]

The figures they gave were 200w tdp and recommended 600w psu (ik lower than 3070)

[opal night]

Not what I read

Anandtech said 290W TDP

[fierce pivot]

Ahh

Theo pinned something in #graphics-cards that said otherwise

[opal night]

I'd call that sus as hell

With GDDR6X, no way it's less than a 3070

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16727/nvidia-announces-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-3070-ti-upgraded-cards-coming-in-june

[fierce pivot]

I thought the numbers looked dumb as hell

[opal night]

"Whereas the RTX 3070 was a 220W TDP card, RTX 3070 Ti adds to this significantly, bringing the TDP to 290W, and only 30W less than the RTX 3080."

[fierce pivot]

That makes way more sense

[elfin trout]

From TPU listing, 290w too.

wonder when review embargos will lift, so we can see the transient spikes and such measured by reviewers

[hollow gale]

so reviews should be dropping next day or so?

keep an eye on Hardware Unboxed

[elfin trout]

I'm waiting for TPU

they usually have a graph for transient response

[hollow gale]

TPU?

I know Gamers Nexus does the power graph

[opal night]

The day before their release according to anadtech

[elfin trout]

looking to check if I was misremembering atm

[elfin trout]

ya, but sometimes they do it day of release, which is sad

[opal night]

Pretty sure these will be day before. Most places agree on that.

[elfin trout]

we'll see, we have to wait for it either way

and tpu might not be the one with the transient graph

[hollow gale]

Who is TPU?

[elfin trout]

techpowerup

[opal night]

3080ti tomorrow

And 3070ti a week later

9th?

[elfin trout]

from NVidia's site

[hollow gale]

their YT channel is very dead

[elfin trout]

smh

not yt

@hollow gale website

I love article reviews much more than video reviews

[hollow gale]

im too lazy to read

[elfin trout]

easily find charts and data and info

[hollow gale]

😆

[elfin trout]

instead of having to wait 20 min to get the the parts you want to know

you can skim through in 3 minutes

[hollow gale]

fair enough

[elfin trout]

and much MUCH easier to copy graphs for discussions

easily quote them

etc

[opal night]

Those are the Embargo lift dates not when the cards come out

What I posted

[remote inlet]

i plan on switching cases when I eventually get a 3000 series card. Haven't built a pc in a while but really all I will need is thermal paste for when I put the cooler back on ?

[weary vine]

You dont need to take the cooler off to change cases

[elfin trout]

if aio, need to

[weary vine]

Maybe maybe not

If mounted same way not

[elfin trout]

uh

I would either way

[weary vine]

I wouldnt

If its top mounted I would top mount it even in the new case

[elfin trout]

I would clean off and put new paste just because new paste

[weary vine]

Ahh yeah that makes sense if its kinda old paste

[elfin trout]

I believe it's just too unwieldy to have it still on when changing case too, but nice to do it either way

[weary vine]

Im too lazy to remove the whole ting and put it all back so i would finagle it in

[elfin trout]

lol

[fierce pivot]

Think it would be easier to reinstall after mobo is in new case tbh

[elfin trout]

yea that's what I think

[weary vine]

Basically if you dont wanna repaste its possible to do without taking the aio off and its possible to do it with it on

[elfin trout]

ye but I would recommend to repaste

[weary vine]

For air cooler tho absolutely 0 need to take the cooler off

[elfin trout]

no need, but good to do still imo

for repaste

[fierce pivot]

Too much awkward manovering tho

[elfin trout]

I'm making these comments because

Haven't built a pc in a while

[weary vine]

If the few degrees matter yes repaste

[elfin trout]

so, I'd just do it

[weary vine]

Ahh yeah

Might be old past

[elfin trout]

mhm

[weary vine]

Remove rad leave in dangling over the side of old case

Remove mobo

Transfer mobo to new case with rad dangling off the side of new case

Reinstall rad

[fierce pivot]

Effort tho then you gotta reinstall mobo with aio attached :/

[weary vine]

Its dangling off the side so not really occupying a hand

[fierce pivot]

I mean if i had no paste i would do but if i had paste i would just reinstall

[weary vine]

Or getting in the way

[weary vine]

Well yes the point is that its semi easily possible

[fierce pivot]

Hmm yeah

[remote inlet]

Thank you!

[scenic field]

Hey guys, if i have a micro atx case, do i need a micro atx psu or i can use an atx psu?

[elfin trout]

There is no micro ATX PSU

There's sfx

There's sfx-L

There flex atx

99% of mATX cases will just take an ATX PSU

[keen moat]

So, how would the upgrade path of an HP Pavilion TP01-1036 look if I wanted to insert an MSI GeForce GTX 1650 into the system? Would there be a PSU that could cheat the proprietary plug the PSU utilizes?

[fierce pivot]

Youd probs need new psu new mobo

New case if it's not wide enough

[keen moat]

Darn

Though I can easily cannibalize the Pavilion of its CPU and RAM

I just hope that wouldn't be necessary

[fierce pivot]

Check the size of the case and see but it's definitely a possibility

[ruby yacht]

Is the only difference between the lian li lancool 2 mesh RGb and perf only the fan controller?

[keen moat]

The HP Pavilion's dimensions is 33.75cm x 15.55cm x 30.4cm and it does have one PCIe x 16 expansion slot

[fierce pivot]

See if the gpu(specific model) fits in those dimensions then, if not new case time

[keen moat]

Funny, I took a photo of the GPU on top of the case for reference sake. Amazon lists its dimensions to be 18.03 cm x 4.32 cm x 11.43 cm. A tight fit, but definitely possible to fit in it

[fierce pivot]

nice

[keen moat]

So yeah, at this point, it'll mostly be finding a ~300W PSU that can fit in an HP Pavilion TP01 model and has the six-plug, since I don't think that one comes with the preinstalled PSU. Preferrably with the proprietary plug HP uses for its Baker motherboard

[fierce pivot]

ehhhhhh if you find a psu that fits its gonna be a propietary like 100$ psu

[keen moat]

It'll be worth it, though

Especially if it's ~300W as the card suggests

If I did have $1500 I can burn, then I'd absolutely build it myself and have the PC I'm currently using be regulated to content creating while the other one would be gaming XD

[opal night]

GTX1650?

300W psu?

[keen moat]

Yeah, a GTX 1650

from MSI

[opal night]

https://encompass.com/item/12302362/HP/L04618-800/

That's a 400W PSU that will do what you need it to and fit the case and MB

This chart is a fantastic resource for HP products https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Knowledge-Base/Power-Supply-Cross-Reference-for-specific-models/ta-p/7483923?lightbox-message-images-7483923=252956iFEE7DC507247E3EB

[keen moat]

Huh, holy shit! That's pretty good! It might also give the Intel i7-17000 some much needed juice to keep it from overextending its wattage

But yeah, I've just bookmarked the encompass site, since that's a pretty cheap option for an upgrade

[opal night]

It is

HP makes PSU's up to 500W for those proprietary boards although they're pretty pricey

But compared to building a whole new machine, pretty reasonable

[opal night]

The 10700 is going to run out of cooler long before it runs out of wattage

It can pull 200+W at stock clocks

[keen moat]

Huh, I honestly wonder how my PC hadn't randomly shut down, since it said it only has ~185W as its PSU

[opal night]

Thermal limits

The safeties in the CPU keep it from drawing too much wattage due to thermals, the HP factory coolers are pretty poo

[keen moat]

Oh, yeah, when it just seizes up and freezes

That is very likely a future investment

Especially once it has a beefier PSU

[slate creek]

Is the H510 really as bad as people say it is?

[vocal tree]

yes 😎

the H510 chipset is fine however

[slate creek]

If it’s so bad why is it so popular? Just curious

[vocal tree]

because it's "pretty"

[opal night]

Lacking PCI-E things but a good budget board.

[elfin trout]

I think they're talking about the nzxt h510 vintage

[opal night]

Oh the case?

Cuz the airflow sucks

But it looks nice

[slate creek]

Yeah I’m talking about the case

Just curious about it because NZXT uses it in a build with a 3090

[fierce pivot]

I mean if you want to run at 100c the whole time keep the h510

[ruby yacht]

What psu should I get to future proof? I apprently need a new one bc I can't plug in my RGB bc my current psu doesn't have a spot for it

[hollow gale]

no single PSU has a port for RGB

thats the motherboards job

[ruby yacht]

Well my mobo doesn't have the right slot for the case rgb then ig .-.

[hollow gale]

do you mean SATA power?

[ruby yacht]

I have a lian li lancool 2 mesh rgb and a Asus tuf gaming x570 wifi

Yeah maybe

[hollow gale]

can you show me the connection you are talking about?

[ruby yacht]

I can, it'll be a little bit Though, I have to disassemble the case a bit

Nvm I found it online

The bottom one

[hollow gale]

yes, thats a SATA power connector. If your PSU doesnt have that, its is AMAZINGLY old! The good news is that you dont need a whole new PSU, you can get MOLEX to SATA adapters

are you sure your PSU doesnt have SATA connectors? can you tell me what your PSU model is?

[ruby yacht]

Corsair CX600m

It's almost 6 years old lol

And it was a budget psu

[hollow gale]

it has SATA power.

[ruby yacht]

Oh it plugs into the sata cable from the hard drive?

[hollow gale]

yes

[fierce pivot]

Depends on what cpu and gpu you have/want and what you think you will upgrade to in the future tbh

[hollow gale]

read the whole exchange bud 😆

[fierce pivot]

Ahh i see

Just skimmed

[ruby yacht]

So i've gotten it all setup but I think the case rgb fans in the lian li lancool 2 aren't controllable bc they're 3 pin right?

they kinda crazy noisy lol

[fierce pivot]

The rgb being 3 pin or the fan header?

[ruby yacht]

the fan header was 3 pin

[fierce pivot]

Yeah you can control the speed

[ruby yacht]

rgb was the sata

[fierce pivot]

Set it to DC mode in the bios

[ruby yacht]

Okay, gonna try that

I'm guessing my FH-10 is what's causing the fans to run so loud

Cause it's not changing the speed in the bios

Could that be what's causing it?

[opal night]

You need at least one 4 pin fan connected to it for it to control the speeds, IIRC

[ruby yacht]

Welp I ain't got a 4 pin

Would the phantek fan hub fix this issue?

Or what would be a gud fan hub for 3 pin case fans cause the pc is whisper quiet without the case fans

[opal night]

Probably better off getting splitter cables and going direct to MB with 3 pin

[elfin trout]

nah, can do dc control

[opal night]

Well, it's not

:/

[elfin trout]

should be able to

[ruby yacht]

Dc mode doesn't change it though I think it's because it uses a 4 pin to connect to the MB and only has 4 pins for fans to connect to

[opal night]

Do you have a fan plugged into fan 1?

[ruby yacht]

I do

It isn't 4 pins though sadlyt

[elfin trout]

oh you're joking

[opal night]

Nope

It's a PWM hub

[elfin trout]

I would've expected it to just leave the voltage be what the mobo is feeding it, but it's powered by sata too

na-fc1 prob wouldn't work either, since that works off pwm

[opal night]

Yeah, any powered hub is just going to use the PWM signal for the fans and power from sata

Probs better off running splitter cables to MB headers.

[ruby yacht]

why does lian li have to give crappy 3 pin fans :/ My case from 6 years ago gave 4 pin headers

[opal night]

They have PWM fans as well

Just gotta pay attention to what you buy

[ruby yacht]

I guess I should of bought the performance version

So my only option is to get a fan splitter right? cause my case fans can't reach my MB header

[opal night]

Fan hubs that I see are all PWM, even if they mention 3 pin. :/

I had one in my old NZXT case that would do 3 pins but iDK what it actually was.

[ruby yacht]

So only a fan splitter would work?

[opal night]

In this case, probably the best option

[ruby yacht]

you know any gud fan splitters than lol?

[opal night]

They're just cables lol

https://smile.amazon.com/Splitter-Computer-Extension-Converter-TeamProfitcom/dp/B07F8LV1BY

[ruby yacht]

well they gotta be able to control the fan speed doh

[opal night]

Nah, your MB controls the fan speed via DC mode

The fans just connect to it

[fierce pivot]

Well my hub is on pwm mode because i have 1 pwm fan but it also powers my stock fans just fine ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[opal night]

Right, you need at least one PWM fan connected

Doctor doesn't have any

[ruby yacht]

So If i get just 1 pwm fan the rest of the fans will be able to not run at 100%?

[fierce pivot]

Ahh i see

[ruby yacht]

I think i have a 4 pin fan from an old case I could maybe use

[ruby yacht]

wut

[fierce pivot]

Was replying to vintage

[fierce pivot]

I think so, if you have a spare laying around no harm tho

Give it a shot

[ruby yacht]

Do you have 3 pins connected to your hub aswell as the pwm?

[opal night]

Regardless if Pato's hub works or not, the Deepcool won't do 3 pin fans. Mr1111 confirmed it.

[elfin trout]

No, because how PWM works is that the PWM signal sent through the 4th pin regulates the speeds, and the voltage stays 12v.

[ruby yacht]

big sad, I gotta wait for a splitter that'll let me not run em at 100%

[elfin trout]

Ye, DC control works through upping and lowering the voltage

[ruby yacht]

Could I plug a 3 pin header into a the CPU OPT and it work?

[opal night]

CPU_OPT is sometimes tied to the CPU_FAN header so check BIOS to see if it's controlled separately or not

[ruby yacht]

If not it's just run at the same speed as the cpu fans right?

[opal night]

Yes

[slate creek]

Should I put fans on my Lancool II mesh’s PSU Shroud?

As intake

[opal night]

You'll be sucking in hot air from under the PSU shroud so.....I'd test temps with and without them

[slate creek]

They would be right above the PSU and the 2 bottom flaps are perforated

Also the front of the case would be taken up by a 360mm radiator

[ruby yacht]

I managed to get the 3pin cable to reach across the MB and plug in but I can't add anymore fans , it'd be nice if lian li let you buy the hub from the performance version

[slate creek]

Is the EVGA superNOVA G3 750 better or worse than a Corsair HX750?

[weary vine]

1 sec

[slate creek]

On the tier list, the G3 is under not enough info

[weary vine]

G3 better

HX750 is tier c

@slate creek

[slate creek]

Nope HX750 is tier A

[weary vine]

HX 1500 is top tier

[slate creek]

HX750 is under HX platinum

HXi750 is tier c

[weary vine]

HX 750 is C

[slate creek]

The HX 750 is platinum rated, not gold

[remote inlet]

Any recommendation for a mid tower ?

[slate creek]

Lian Li Lancool II Mesh, Phanteks P400A, Meshify 2 Compact

Corsair 4000D airflow is also pretty good

[ruby yacht]

I was told the G3 was bad

[slate creek]

Wouldn’t be surprised since it’s bundled in Newegg shuffle but I’m not sure about it

[ruby yacht]

and to get the phantek amp 750

[opal night]

EVGA G3?

[ruby yacht]

Yeah

[slate creek]

Yeah

[opal night]

I wouldnt say it's bad

But the AMP is higher rated

[slate creek]

Oh I just noticed there’s also a gold rated HX 750 lmao

Is the G3 better or worse than the platinum HX750

[opal night]

I mean, better PSU for less money makes the G3 a bad buy

Unless you find one or the other on sale

[slate creek]

I’m trying to figure out which one to keep for myself and which one to throw into a friends build if I win the shuffle today

[opal night]

Pick one and use it

Wait

What GPU are you pairing it with?

[slate creek]

3070

[opal night]

Ah, both are overkill

In which case, pick one

[slate creek]

Maybe 3090

[opal night]

No

[slate creek]

Depends on what comes with the NZXT

[opal night]

Don't put a 3090 with one

[slate creek]

The stock PSU in the NZXt build is 750 watts

[opal night]

500W transients will beat it up

[slate creek]

Ahh ok

What wattage should I go for the 3090?

850?

[opal night]

Which NZXT psu is it?

Enermax Revolution DF 850W $120 on Newegg. I wouldn't go any lower

[slate creek]

All it says is 750 watt gold

[ruby yacht]

I should of bought that 100$ supernova GT tbh

gonna wait for prime day now though

unless some good psu deal comes up

[slate creek]

I hate cable managing a non modular PSU

[fierce pivot]

That case has no cable room wtf

[candid oasis]

here's a casual question

what's y'alls fave minimal ATX case

[fierce pivot]

Budget?

4000d airflow, p400a are some examples of minimal i suppose

[slate creek]

Gotta love the Thermaltake Core V31 lmao

How is it considering there’s no cable room?

[raw river]

I need some help, when i turn on my pc for the first time it power on then the next second it powers off

I’ve seen some youtube videos and it looks like i have a bad psu

Any other possibilitys for what it might be?

[ruby yacht]

You sure everything is fully plugged in?

The psu fan spinning?

[remote inlet]

Sometimes your motherboard will flash lights or will throw a code, could try checking that too

[raw river]

no

[raw river]

yes

could it be because bios isnt updated?

[sand atlas]

That's a possible problem if you're using a 5000 series AMD processor or an Intel 11th gen on a 400 series chipset. Besides that, not likely.

[fierce pivot]

I mean you did what you could

[raw river]

yeah ryzen 5800x\

[elfin trout]

if board has flashback, flash new bios

[raw river]

ok, did that but had a problem on a mac, have to go visit someone who has windowsa

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[elfin trout]

mac wac

[raw river]

fr

i have to vhangew the filke to fat32

and mac doesnt allow that

[elfin trout]

usb needs to be formatted to fat32 for bios file

[raw river]

yes. I heard crhomebooks automatically fiolethem to that

wouldf it work?

[elfin trout]

dunno

[raw river]

it worked

on chromebook i formatted to fat 32

[elfin trout]

nice

[raw river]

been workingf on this for 5 hours now

finally get to watch some cat videos when i finish doing thius damn pc

play minecraqft*\

[raw river]

didn't work

usb just flashes 2 times

[unreal pier]

I think you can do a paperclip trick to see if the psu fan spins but not 100 percent sure how to do it.

[outer folio]

you short 2 of the pins

there's guides on youtube

[raw river]

is there any negative effects??

[outer folio]

no

[unreal pier]

My friend did it, its especially easy if you have ketchup and mustard cables

But yeah just watch a guide.

[raw river]

How do u fix a bent am4 cpu pin?

[reef axle]

look it up online

[weary vine]

Safety pin

[raw river]

I’ll go to a repair shop

Safer

[sand atlas]

You can use a credit card to bend it back into place, then use a mechanical pencil to straighten them if they're bent. You just insert the pin into the end of the pencil.

[fleet wigeon]

is transferring a into a new case easy

[ruby yacht]

A psu? It depends on the case and the psu

[fleet wigeon]

a generic psu

Dynex

do the wires go into the psu i don’t have a moded psu

[fleet wigeon]

i am moving from a dell optiplex case @ruby yacht i hope everything works

[lime fog]

Is the Corsair Crystal 280X RGB Case allright?

[sand atlas]

Dell likes to change tiny little things to make it impossible to migrate cases. It might have a 12VO power supply instead of standard ATX for example, or the motherboard screws could be slightly offset so they don't fit another case.

[fierce pivot]

Quite old iirc, what's your budget for a case?

[hollow gale]

have a look at Gamers Nexus of the Dell Prebuilt from a couple of weeks ago. Non standard PSU, non standard motherboard, CPU cooler mounting to the chassis panel. Just horrible

[sand atlas]

Oh I saw, Steve's passive aggressive comments are always priceless.

Even the GPU wasn't salvageable

I had a good laugh at "load bearing CPU cooler"

[fierce pivot]

It's so dumb

They were like where is the most awkward place to mount a cooler

[hollow gale]

that motherboard just baffles me. I get trying to design your own PCB, if it serves a purpose. But there was NO advantage to what they did! just incur extra cost over buying rebranded product. stupid beyond relief

[sand atlas]

Yeah I want to meet the engineer that signed off on having the front IO panel attached to the motherboard. I just want to have a talk, and see if I can "convince" him that was a bad idea.

[weary vine]

My favourite tech video remains lyles reaction to the verges yt build vid

[hollow gale]

The verge pc build video was the gift that kept on giving 🤣

[alpine fox]

And memeing about that vid will live forever, won't it?

[weary vine]

I mean I now hate on anyone who uses zip ties instead of tweezers

[hollow gale]

yeah. f**k zip ties

[alpine fox]

I've never actually seen the Verge video, just all the memes and references about it.

[fierce pivot]

Tweezers instead of zip ties???

They the things you use for plucking hair what?

[weary vine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vmQOO4WLI4

@fierce pivot

[fierce pivot]

Why this guy sound like that rice cooker guy lol

I see he just deadass called zipties tweezers and they didn't retake? Wtf

[hollow gale]

thats right. not the script writer, not the camera man, not the director, not the editor. none of these people who were involved in this video, knew the most basic thing about PCs

and yet they made a video about it. let that be inspiration. even if you dont know, just do

[fierce pivot]

The cpu holder

[weary vine]

look at the great cable management

those cables are enough to choke airflow in a 4000d airflow lmao

[fierce pivot]

[hollow gale]

in a dual chamber case with SO MUCH ROOM in the back!

its like he purposefully put ALL the cables in the front. cos the back was so clean!

[fleet wigeon]

@sand atlas dell motherboards are not proprietary which is good

[weary vine]

some are

quite a few

[fierce pivot]

They are proprietary lol , weird sizes or no atx 24 pin or something about it usually

[weary vine]

one has front io built in

that ive seen

[fierce pivot]

Wack

[weary vine]

cant even rebuild in new case

[fierce pivot]

Yeah stoopid

[lime fog]

I am looking for a decent looking white case + fans under 120-130

sorry for late reply

[fierce pivot]

Td500 mesh

[lime fog]

k, thanks!

[fierce pivot]

Its got rgb fans so

Np 👍

If you don't like that, Corsair 4000d airflow/4000x if you really don't like the airflow (although the 4000x isnt as good)

[vestal gulch]

hello i recently purchased a 2080ti and noticed my 2070 has 6 + 8 sata connector and the 2080ti has 8 + 8 is this normal for a psu not to have 8 + 8 is there an adapter i need to get or do i just need to upgrade psu?

[bleak fable]

if the psu isn't modular, you'll need to change

[vestal gulch]

opk sounds good is it safe to run 2080ti with 650w?

[fierce pivot]

what cpu?

[vestal gulch]

i7 9700k

[fierce pivot]

doesnt your current 650w psu not have enough pcie pins for your graphics card?

[vestal gulch]

yes i rechecks i had extra 4th single cable tucked because i didnt need it for 2070 i am asking if it is safe to run 650w psu with 2080 ti im rookie at this?

[outer folio]

what exact PSU

[vestal gulch]

im about to open case not shore i got it a year or so ago with pre build

[fierce pivot]

yeah if its a good psu i wouldnt worry, if its a kinda cheap psu i would worry

also do you have any overclocks/plan to overclock, either cpu or gpu?

[vestal gulch]

Ok well i checked and new to me its an 850watt high power..nver heard of the brand

[fierce pivot]

should be okay then

[vestal gulch]

Cool thanks

[outer folio]

high power is an OEM for Power Supplies

they make some of the Powerspec (microcenter) ones

your PSU most likely doesn't have any reviews, so it'll be hard to tell whether it's good or not

[fierce pivot]

its probably fine tho

[outer folio]

is it tho

if you can find the name maybe I could get an idea of what we're looking at @vestal gulch

[fierce pivot]

id say it will be fine most likely, 650w is recommended psu for 2080 ti from nvidia so even if its not great i wouldnt worry that much

[outer folio]

but what if it's group regulated, and voltage falls way out of the ATX spec

or, if it doesn't have good ripple suppression, and kills your GPU

[fierce pivot]

well hasnt killed their old 2070 yet soooooo

[outer folio]

I guess yeah, 850W units probably aren't group regulated

[woeful lily]

Does anyone know where I can purchase a plexglass side panel for my Antec P-100 case??

[soft basin]

Home Depot/Lowes/BuildersSquare/AceHardware

[mild roost]

lmao

anyway that case has no plexiglass, you gotta make one yoself

[elder perch]

anyone that knows like a case thats around 4 maybe 5 liters that can hold atlest 2 3.5 hardrives and just an itx motherboard with just an integrated gpu? ps ping me kinda busy
also have no idea if this is the right chat

[fierce pivot]

Ehhh can you try give dimensions in inches or cm as litres is a hard unit to measure

It's not a given unit for cases

[elder perch]

basicly like an In Win Chopin but well support for 2 3.5

[fierce pivot]

Ohh yeah hard drives aren't really a thing in itx

Just an fyi

I don't think there's 1 itx case that supports hard drives

[elder perch]

well yeah its mostly going to be like maybe like an nas or something maybe idk be nice to play something on the tv to

[fierce pivot]

Then get ssds or an matx case instead i guess

[elfin trout]

If you want a nas get a nas...?

[fierce pivot]

Or get a nas lol

[elder perch]

but i like building

[fierce pivot]

Then get matx

[elder perch]

but thats big

[fierce pivot]

Then get a nas

[elder perch]

currently have an louqe ghost s1 and just wanted an nas thats smaller

[fierce pivot]

Just use that nas then......

[elfin trout]

uhhhh

[elder perch]

xd..

ik im special

well if not then i might as well try to just get 2.5 5tb harddrives...

[elfin trout]

like a nr200 fits a hard drive

[fierce pivot]

Really is that itx tho thought that was matx?

[elder perch]

hmm i might as well just use the ncase i have that i change from

[elfin trout]

nr200 has always been itx...

hell, tu150 might fit a hard drive too, lemme check

[fierce pivot]

I think I'm thinking of diff case then nvm

[elder perch]

i did find SilverStone MILO ML10 - USFF tho it fits 1 3.5

[elfin trout]

like mb311 nr500 are different bois

tu150 fits a 2.5 and a 3.5 drive

[fierce pivot]

Nr200 does fit 3.5 acc yeah

[elfin trout]

cm documentation is weird, looks like you can install 2 3.5in drives max?

[fierce pivot]

Cooler master elite 130 holds 3 drives actually

Fractal node 304 holds 5 3.5 drives holy 💩

They're a bit bigger dimension wise than you want probs tho

[elder perch]

is that minus the gpu? cus i dont need one

[fierce pivot]

Idk that's just the listed spec

Probs

[elder perch]

hmm..

[fierce pivot]

I doubt adding gpu to these add hdd space

Because they're bigger itx

[elder perch]

hmm.. dam i wish i hade a 3d printer xD..

[fierce pivot]

The cooler master elite 130 is the same hight and length as the in win one just longer i think btw if that helps

[elder perch]

well its just its using an atx psu xd

[fierce pivot]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[elder perch]

oh also kinda planed it to run like simple servers xd.. why i dont wanna just buy a nas ik im special... is this an dum idea to have both in one?

[bleak fable]

thoughts on td500 mesh

[sand atlas]

Not top tier but decent for the price

[elfin trout]

Y no top tier?

[sand atlas]

It's pretty darn close to top tier but I've seen people complain about ease of install enough that it's not my first recommendation

Not for a beginner at least

[elfin trout]

I agree it's not best but I personally believe it's pretty top tier, and I do agree there's some installation things, mainly cable management being weird because of not much space, and top rad clearance a bit smol, so no wide ram.

Is there anything else you've noticed?

[sand atlas]

Not really, which is why I say good for the price. There's no perfect case but the ones that come closer are a higher price point.

[elfin trout]

(was misled when you said "decent for the price")

[ruby yacht]

I'd say that the lian li lancool 2 mesh is definitely top tier

It's about 10$ cheaper than the td500 as well

[fierce pivot]

About 10$ more than the td500 mesh but it's decent too, my fav is 4/5000d airflow

[elfin trout]

Usually td500 mesh is at 100$ flat, 20$ cheaper

[fierce pivot]

110 atm :/ but still cheaper than lancool yeah

[ruby yacht]

Lancool 2 is 109$

[rotund lintel]

Anyone have a Seasonic Prime TX-1000 psu they are using with a cable kit from Cablemod?

[fierce pivot]

Lancool 2 mesh is 120$

[ruby yacht]

Idk why, It only says 109 for me and that's what I paid

[weary vine]

Just because you bought something for some price doesn’t mean that thats the permanent price

Discounts keep fluctuating

[ruby yacht]

It says 109 on newegg rn

[weary vine]

Pato is telling what the price usually is

[ruby yacht]

oh okay

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/d82bt6/lian-li-lancool-ii-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-ii-mesh-rgb-black 118

[fleet wigeon]

@fierce pivot you are right they are proprietary the front io i gota new board with out to deal with the errors

and stuff

[fierce pivot]

That's unfortunate but it is what it is

[fleet wigeon]

yep thermal sensor security lock i am like screw it new mobo

why would they lock their own cpu fan can't be removed

[fierce pivot]

Because oems can

[fleet wigeon]

i have a extra one the rosewill case is better then a boring office case

[ruby yacht]

If you select lian li instead of newegg as the seller it's 109

[fierce pivot]

Doesn't show up on pcpp

[opal night]

On newegg

Choose More Buying options, $110 from Lian Li

With free shipping

[fierce pivot]

Ohhh

[ruby yacht]

Just realized my 600w 80+ bronze psu is running at 66% load at all times for 6 years now lol

If I get a 3070 it's probably gonna die lol

[fierce pivot]

Depends on what else is in your system but yeah 650w is recommended for 3070

[ruby yacht]

I'm currently using 400w's for everything in my system

[fierce pivot]

Yeah but with what specs like

It's better to play safe tho especially if it's a meh psu model

[sturdy valve]

What’s good pc with great airflow?

[fleet wigeon]

hmm

[tacit wren]

Meshify anything

[elfin trout]

Mesh op

[tacit wren]

Meshify c is amazing but top is a bit short for top mount aio

[fleet wigeon]

expect for dell optiplex

[hollow gale]

Lian Li Lancool II mesh, corsair 4000d airflow, phanteks P400A, coolermaster td500 mesh

[fierce pivot]

As well as 5000d airflow and p500a

[hollow gale]

fractal design meshify 2 and meshify 2 c

[covert zenith]

Guys hello! Hope you all are well ❤️ Is there anyone here that has a mini ITX PC case and can they please tell me if there is ANY chance in this hell of a world where I can fit an ATX factor PSU inside? Specifically the Corsair RM750.

[fierce pivot]

I think a few cases can fit that, go into pc part picker and put your psu in then select itx under the case filter

[covert zenith]

Ahh good call. Thanks buddy 🙂

[fierce pivot]

Yw :)

[covert zenith]

The UK has that option greyed out T_T

Looks like I gotta go international hunting

Nope, they just hate em T_T

[fierce pivot]

Oof ;-; try german or spanish pc part picker

Ohh mb not then

[fierce pivot]

Try again, it worked for me

[covert zenith]

wa?

Can you send me a link please?

[fierce pivot]

Its cookies based i think, but go to https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list then add your power supply, then in filters itx desktop and mini itx tower were there

[covert zenith]

Thank youu :DD Also looking at newegg for any reviews with photos and the specs

[fierce pivot]

Np

[covert zenith]

The PSU they use 10 x 12.5 x 6.3 cm; 860 Grams
The PSU I have 30.2 x 21.4 x 12.9 cm; 997.9 Grams

🙃 🙃 🙃 🙃 🙃 🙃 🙃 🙃

[fierce pivot]

Lol

That draught cooler is a crime in that build tbh

Or however you spell it lol

[covert zenith]

hahahahaha

I suppose that kind of case is less forgiving anyways

Well, that's my dream dead

[covert zenith]

ended up finding a 2nd hand Shift X which seems to accommodate 160mm ATX PSUs 🤞

[fierce pivot]

nice

[open zinc]

hey

There is a big difference between these two?

[hollow gale]

yes, the airflow one will cool you components, the one with the glass front will not

[open zinc]

I just bought the airflow version and got the second version instead

Should I replace the case?

[hollow gale]

I would say so , yes

[open adder]

I would get the 4000d airflow tbh

Looks better in my opinion

[hollow gale]

Agree with ofir. if its in your price range, and the supplier allows it, I would get the Corsair 4000d airflow

[fierce pivot]

Get a corsair 4000x instead

If you want rgb and glass panel but 4000d airflow better yeah

[open adder]

Yeah but they both look good just get arctic p12s for cheap with 4000d airflow

[open zinc]

thanks

[weary vine]

4000d airflow is one of the best cases

[scenic lance]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zzkj4D/antec-high-current-gamer-gold-750w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-hcg750-gold

is this fine

[elfin trout]

yea hcg gold is good

[scenic lance]

with a phantex 400a

im just making sure it will fit

but I assume its fine

[elfin trout]

tho that price

might as well get a revo d.f. 850w for the price

[elfin trout]

Max PSU length in that case is 270mm, and a hcg gold is like 140mm long lel

[scenic lance]

I meant a p500a* but it will also be find obv

[elfin trout]

ya

[open adder]

Yeah hcg is not bad im using it

Here its cheaper then other brands

[fierce pivot]

It will fit, but for that price, enermax revolution df 850w is what you should get

[minor portal]

Milk#1025 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[scenic lance]

Well I already ordered the other one

Lmao

It will be fine for the time being

[fierce pivot]

That's grand yeah

[ruby yacht]

i think the df is in sale

[fierce pivot]

It basically always is XD

[half ermine]

my motherboard has power for 2 8-pin connecters for the cpu, does it matter if i plug the psu cable into atx12v1 or atx12v2? or can i plug it into any of the two

[scenic lance]

Is the SuperNOVA 650 G3, 80 Plus Gold 650W trust worthy?

[sand atlas]

Either works, or both if you plan on doing extreme overclocks

[sand atlas]

G3 is an older model but it's B tier so it's good. 650 is probably enough for a 3060 ti with a high power processor, or a 3070 with a lower power one.

[ruby yacht]

Is the supernova 750 Gt gold any good? it's only 100$ atm

[fierce pivot]

Ye it's decent

[elfin trout]

G3 is good, but ocp set too high

(it used to be A tier for a while)

It has really good ripple iirc

[ruby yacht]

so should I pick up the 750 gt? planning on getting a 3070 or 3070ti

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CbWg7X my current build

[elfin trout]

I mean

You could grab a Phanteks amp 750w for like 95$ iirc, Revolution d.f. 850w is still 130$, a-gf 750w might still be 100$

[ruby yacht]

amp is better?

idk if I need the 850Ws tho

Don't really know how people need more than like 500ws lol

[elfin trout]

'futureproofing'

It's just that df can be on sale 120$, which makes it a pretty nice deal

Amp is better tho

A-gf is also better

[ruby yacht]

rev Df seems like it's a really old psu cause it's not sold by enermax

[elfin trout]

What

Excuse me what?

[mild roost]

im seriously confused

[ruby yacht]

When I got to their site there's no us option

[elfin trout]

https://www.newegg.com/enermax-80-plus-erf650awt-850w/p/1HU-0042-000R0

But the PSU is introduced in like 2018, not really old for a PSU

A-gf, which is based on the same CWT GPU platform, released this year

[mild roost]

^

[alpine fox]

I ended up buying a 750w Phanteks Amp. Kinda overkill for the parts I actually have, but.... plenty of room to someday swap the 3060 for a better card when the shortage ends.

[umbral hazel]

Can someone take a few high quality pictures of the Phanteks Eclipse P400A

[fierce pivot]

✨google✨

[remote inlet]

CORSAIR Crystal Series 570X RGB Mirror Black Tempered Glass

Anyone have reviews of this ?

[elfin trout]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-crystal-570x-tempered-glass-atx-case,4825-2.html

[remote inlet]

I’ll check it out, thanks

[fierce pivot]

It's kinda old iirc

[remote inlet]

The case itself?

tbh I really like the look, what are other competitors around the same price range and size

[scenic lance]

Phantex 400a 500a

Well

They are not $250

[minor portal]

Milk#1025 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[noble leaf]

Phanteks p400a is a great case

P500a comes with a box of sorted case screws and rgb and i think its a little bigger iirc

[fierce pivot]

Corsair 4000x/5000x probs

They look fairly similar

But better airflow

[north stone]

phanteks has a silent version too with sound deadening and it works.. i love it

[remote inlet]

Hmm I’ll check it out not sure about size tho I think I saw it iirc

[scenic lance]

500a just came in the mail today for me Lol

its bigger then I thought

but thats a good thing

[noble leaf]

Both are great cases. Just wasnt willing to spend more than 100$ for a case upgrade

[scenic lance]

Do yk where I can find the tiers for psu

[weary vine]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

[unique pilot]

If you want more in depth look at the accompanying spreadsheet to that tier list

[minor portal]

Ferocity#3728 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Ferocity#3728 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[radiant vortex]

raijintek ponos ms/tg

its what i have and its amazing, great options for airflow and cable management with a choice of tempered glass or acrylic side panels

even fits vertical mounted gpus and large gpus

even comes with a ARGB version (4 fans) for the rgb lovers

also has choices for mesh or glass front panels

https://www.raijintek.com/en/products_detail.php?ProductID=117

[fierce pivot]

Never heard of it, how much did you pay for it btw?

[radiant vortex]

90$ usd, 80$ and 10$ replacement plan

[fierce pivot]

Meh airflow looks yikes

[radiant vortex]

wym, it has great airflow

lots of radiator options and plenty of fan spaces

mesh front panel is better than the glass, top and bottom magnetic dust filters

even the back panel has room for airflow

[fierce pivot]

It has front glass panel

[radiant vortex]

you can choose from glass or mesh

i have the mesh one

ponos tg is the glass, ponos ms is mesh

[fierce pivot]

Ohj there's mesh option i see

[radiant vortex]

yeh

obv the mesh gives better airflow

[fierce pivot]

Fair i thought only glass

[radiant vortex]

my gpu under after an hour of heavy gaming (rust) tops at about 74c

[fierce pivot]

Oof that's not great

[tribal jungle]

I had an offer of 1.5k or USD30, is this a good PSU?

It is a second-hand.

[opal night]

Green is not so good

I'd try and get a CX gray, better protections and quality

[tribal jungle]

It is kinda expensive here but I'll try finding one. Thanks!

[elfin trout]

Cx green is like literally 10 years old or so

[opal night]

Yeah

[tribal jungle]

That's old

[alpine fox]

Too old

[tiny summit]

I have a question about a Superflower PSU. There selling them on newegg.

[opal night]

Superflower leadex good

[tiny summit]

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-v-gold-pro-sf-1000f14tg-1000w/p/1HU-024C-00035?Item=9SIAMNPCC21955&cm_sp=Dailydeal_SS-_-9SIAMNPCC21955-_-06112021 this one?

[opal night]

https://www.newegg.com/phanteks-revolt-pro-ph-p1000gc-1000w/p/N82E16817987007?Item=N82E16817987007

if you need a top tier 1000W PSU

[tiny summit]

well I just want overhead for my PC I'm building. with a 10900K and possibly a 3080 or 3080ti

I may OC the 10900K to 4.8-5.0

[opal night]

850W would be fine also

Enermax Revolution DF 850W

[tribal jungle]

I found a CX550M grey for $50 here, although I'm kinda skeptical as there's only one review on it and it concerns me a little bit.

https://www.hardwareinsights.com/corsair-cx550m-farewell-group-design/6/#Crossloading-overloading

[opal night]

The CXM aren't great

[tribal jungle]

What's your opinion about this? Thanks in advance

[tribal jungle]

Why tho

[opal night]

But better than the green you were looking at

Same as the green, lacking some protections, some aren't set properly, etc

Where are you at?

[tribal jungle]

PH

[opal night]

Philippines?

[tribal jungle]

aye

[opal night]

This is a quick and dirty list but it might help

I'd shoot for Tier B or better depending on your budget and availability https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

[tribal jungle]

yeah that's what I'm looking at, unfortunately almost all tier B PSUs are unavailable and/or hella expensive.

There's no CX450 here idk why

[opal night]

CXM it is then. how close are you to the 550W output it has?

What components?

[tribal jungle]

GTX 970, a Ryzen 5 1600, 16GB of RAM, 3 3.5s and 2 SSDs

and 5 fans

[opal night]

550W be more than enough then for sure

[tribal jungle]

Yeah, although my goal is to reach the maximum efficiency for this system as well as having some protection within approx. $50 mark

[opal night]

CXM will be fine

If you were close to the power limit I'd be concerned

[tribal jungle]

Aight, thanks for the advice!

I'll take my time to look again. If there's no hope, CXM it is

[opal night]

YW

Good luck shopping

[ruby yacht]

This phantek amp PSU is kinda pretty

[opal night]

I have one

Looks nice

Amp 750

[ruby yacht]

yeah

It's a big boi tho ngl

[outer folio]

aha it's a 140mm compact platform

[ruby yacht]

If I got a new PSU should I change all of Cables that were hooked up to the old psu?

[opal night]

Yes

use the cables that come with your new PSU

Pinouts might be different

[radiant vortex]

it floats, rn ive been playing rust for around 4 hours and my gpu is 69c

ive seen it top at 74c is what i meant

and i have a founders edition card so it doesnt get the best airflow so

[fierce pivot]

Fair

[tribal jungle]

Found a Used CX650 grey for $40, seems good as the seller is only using an iGPU and the rest is ordinary. Should I get it?

[opal night]

How used and how old?

[viscid sorrel]

Opinion on 4000d airflow from Corsair

[north fox]

its a nice case, but a little expensive

if you can find it on sale, which it has been on quite frequently, >75 great choice that would be ideal.

[weary vine]

I simp it

[chrome iris]

I have one

[tribal jungle]

I slept. He bought it online and he used it for nearly a year

[fierce pivot]

Great case, good airflow easy to build in

[willow raven]

Are there cases like the Antec Lanboy Air out there?

It's a highly customizable case

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811129093

I just realized the case is over a decade old

[mild roost]

Pretty rare these days

[fierce pivot]

Not really a thing anymore but you can get way nicer cases that still have great airflow

Something like a td500 mesh corsair 4000d/5000d airflow are great airflow options

Meshify c etc all pretty decent

[mild roost]

I miss those days, gah

Function over form

Well looks can be better while retaining practicality too

[fierce pivot]

Yeah those things look, welll lets go with interesting

[mild roost]

ye

I doubt many will like it

[fierce pivot]

Yeah don't think would sell very well lol

When you could get a 5000d airflow

Just looks beautiful

[fierce pivot]

Or p360a/p400a/p500a all great options too

[willow raven]

Yeah, I am starting to think about function over aesthetics

These cases lack the customization options that I am looking for

[fierce pivot]

What customisation do you want?

[willow raven]

I want to stick a 3 fan AIO and an optical disc drive

Apparently that's not possible with the current cases

[fierce pivot]

Ahh

Well you could just get an external cd reader

[fierce pivot]

That's because optical disc drives haven't been relevant in years and years

[willow raven]

I still use mines from time to time

[fierce pivot]

You can get usb ones for 20-30$

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=usb+dvd+drive&sprefix=usb+dvd&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_7

Plenty for your choosing there

One was like 15$

[slate creek]

I love talking to “techtockers” who have no clue what they’re talking about. This one guy i just talked to was saying how airflow should be the last thing you pay attention to in a case so that’s why he bought an H510

[fierce pivot]

Tbh if it's just low end parts like a 1650 and i5 it doesn't need good airflow but p360a/p400a same price so

[hallow ocean]

can someone educate me on server racks and installation depth of a specific case? I'm looking at the Rosewill 4u RSV-L4500U case - https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-rsv-l4500u-black/p/N82E16811147328 - It says the overall depth of the case is 25 inches including the panel (not sure if this means the handles too or just the panel on the front). I'm wondering if this will fit in a rack that has a 24" mounting depth?

[slate creek]

@opal night Sorry to @ you but do you know which screw im supposed to use to screw in my mobo?

[opal night]

Whichever you have 9 of and fits

[slate creek]

I have 9 of both

They both came with my case

And they both fit

These are the heads

[opal night]

ON the left

[sand atlas]

Check your PCI slot cover screws, the ones you want for the motherboard are usually different in my experience

[slate creek]

The cover slots are thumbscrews

Thanks for the help

[tulip granite]

Why cant I use the same wires when upgrading my psu?

[fierce pivot]

different pinouts

[tulip granite]

But like if im using the same model, just differnt wattage (500 to 650) is it fine or do I need to change them?

[fierce pivot]

probs but i would change to be safe

[tulip granite]

I never done it, is it hard or just a pain in the butt

[chrome iris]

Not either, just kind of tedious, shouldn’t take long tho

[fierce pivot]

except 24 pin thats a pain in the ass to get out lol

[sand atlas]

Here's why even the same brand with a slightly different model might not even work, example from Corsair's compatibility list

https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025611351-PSU-Cable-Compatibility

[tribal jungle]

Got it

[chrome iris]

Swag

[weary vine]

whats that rusty looking thing in the background

[elfin trout]

Some questions should remain unanswered

[hoary epoch]

Yo the dust on that keyboard

Needs a tad bit of cleaning

[tribal jungle]

Yeah

[tribal jungle]

An old phone stand

[distant urchin]

Does anyone here know how anything about breakout boards and server power supplies because I have a question about something

[fresh sonnet]

Just so y'all know

NZXT power supply

cables

[waxen pond]

what would yall reccomend between these two cases, the First Being Lian Li Lancool 2 vs the NZXT h710 for a new build im going for, main thing im looking at is airflow for now.

[distant urchin]

I have an h710i and the airflow is perfect for me

[waxen pond]

what made you chose the h710i vs the non i-version

[distant urchin]

The led lights and the color

[waxen pond]

would you said its worth that extra $$ for the i-version

[distant urchin]

In my opinion yes

In reality probably not but I really like it

[waxen pond]

how much controll do you have over the rgb in the case, and how easy is it to use the software that comes with it

[distant urchin]

You can change the color and pattern of each individual led bulb

The software is pretty easy to use its just NZXT CAM

[waxen pond]

ok good to know, this will be my first build so I want to get it right

[distant urchin]

You wont go wrong with it trust me

[opal night]

Lancool 2

Hands down

[distant urchin]

Performance is probably better but I prefer the aesthetic of the h710i more

[waxen pond]

my only probelm with the the Lancool 2 is the fact that it does not have a usb type c that works from what I have read on the top of the case

that and the fact that the sides are held togeather by magnets rather then screws

[opal night]

What motherboard do you have?

The sides are on hinges like my P500A

No issues at all there

[waxen pond]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JXBhP6/asus-rog-strix-b550-f-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-rog-strix-b550-f-gaming this is the board i would be installing

[distant urchin]

Thats what have its got a USB c port on the side of it i dont think you need one on the top of the case

[opal night]

Well, need to see if the board has the connection for the Type C

[distant urchin]

Unless you ddo then i wont judge

[opal night]

Which it does not, it has a Thunderbolt header but not the Gen 2 Type C connector

[waxen pond]

I mean it would be nice to have it for the future if I need one so I dont have to buy any converters

[opal night]

So FP type C is a rather moot point

[waxen pond]

FB? im just getting into pc building so dont know what that means lol

[opal night]

FP = Front Panel

[waxen pond]

noted

[opal night]

Also, the Lancool has a Type C FP connector available

[distant urchin]

Either way the board has a type c port on it, if you really want another c port the h710i does have one but I wouldnt buy it just because of that

[opal night]

For when you get a board that supports it

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-ii-4x/

[waxen pond]

saved thanks \

[opal night]

The airflow on NZXT cases is just so poor. I went from an H440 (consider it an older 510) to a Phanteks P500A and saw a 10-15C drop in temps just from a case change.

[waxen pond]

I have not looked into any phantek cases but might do so

[opal night]

P400 or P500A. The 500A is $100 with no RGB. The DRGB version is $130 I think.

The 500A is just so nice to build in

Screws come pre organized in a plastic compartment box

[waxen pond]

I am liking the fact that it has a mesh front

[opal night]

Airflow is superb

My 3070 in there is 65C full load

Heaven benchmark

Can't remember what it hit on Timespy

[waxen pond]

I mean sad that I wont be able to use the usb type c but i guess thats for the future

[opal night]

Need a board that supports it first

[waxen pond]

yea

true lol

[opal night]

It has a USB Type C on the back panel tho

just not the front

[waxen pond]

I mean for now that will have to do, cant see myself getting stuff that would require a type c usb

[opal night]

I have one in the MB and one in the GPU. Both are currently unused XD

[remote inlet]

damn how fragile is the 5000d glass side..

it just shattered on me lmfao

[fierce pivot]

Fairly sturdy for glass afaik

[remote inlet]

😂

[fierce pivot]

Rma time?

[remote inlet]

rma?

[fierce pivot]

Return

[dusky wyvern]

EVGA SuperNOVA 850W Ga, 80+Gold, Fully Modular OR RM850x, 850w 80+ Gold?

[remote inlet]

yes

xD

[fierce pivot]

Rmx 850w or enermax revolution df 850w, whichever is cheaper

[dusky wyvern]

alright thank you

[fierce pivot]

Np

[mint wave]

Is 750w enough for ‘future proofing’? I don’t want to have to buy another if I get a 10 year warranty psu

Upgrading because I just bought a 6800xt which recommends a 750w minimum

[opal night]

If you plan on a 3080/3090/6900XT, go 850W

[weary vine]

Maybe not 10 years futureproof

[opal night]

750W is decent enough tho

[weary vine]

maybe for 4-5 years 750 should be good enough

[mint wave]

I’ll just go with the 850w then

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-MPG-Power-Supply-PSU/dp/B08PDZQZN2/?th=1&psc=1

[opal night]

Enermax revolution DF 850W is a great buy

Enermax is better

[mint wave]

I’ll take a look

[opal night]

The tests I saw for the MSI, it has poor voltage regulation

and Enermax is the same price, $129

[mint wave]

7 year warranty. That’s still pretty good

I’ve never heard of that brand though

[opal night]

It's one of the top tier PSU's

Multi rail

etc

[mint wave]

Oh wow, self cleaning

I’m sold

Thx lads

[opal night]

Self cleaning?

wat

HAHAH! Never noticed that before.

[mint wave]

Cpu coolers need that

[opal night]

IKR

[fierce pivot]

Yeah it does that 10 second other way rotation thing

I think it does auto but theres a button for it too

[mint wave]

Is it just a gimmick

Doesn’t work well?

[fierce pivot]

Idk haven't had mine for long

[dusky wyvern]

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rmx-series-rm850x-cp-9020200-na-850w/p/N82E16817139272

How is the 2021 version? Anyone had this? Since the 2018 model is out of stock and only available in newgg. Im comparing the 2018 model to the 2021 model.

Ive check the enermax revolution df 850w and I like the specs but still need confirmation which to choose. Since im making my final decisions.

[fierce pivot]

I'd go enermax revolution df, it's a rmx but multi rail iirc

[dusky wyvern]

I dont know much about specifics in terms in PSU. What is multi rail iirc?

[fierce pivot]

Well iirc means if i recall correctly

[dusky wyvern]

then what is multi rail?

[fierce pivot]

Basically multi rail helps with over voltage protection stuff

https://youtu.be/rC-ImSeYn2A

If you want a bit more info

[dusky wyvern]

Hmm so its best to go enermax option, i mean i do save more tho.

[dusky wyvern]

Thank you il look into it, and do you use any custom/mod sleeves for your enermax? If so what can you recommend, going white build.

[fierce pivot]

Yeah enermax revolution is better and cheaper

[fierce pivot]

No i don't cuz custom leads can cause 🔥

Different psus can have different pinouts

[dusky wyvern]

Oh didnt know that, well good to know.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P7XLVJG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2OFKT6GABPTWG&psc=1

this one right?

[fierce pivot]

Yeye

[outer folio]

@dusky wyvern get extensions

there are PSUs that are exactly the same as the Revolution D.F that have custom cables tho

the Bitfenix Whisper M

however Enermax haven't confirmed if it works for the Revo D.F soooo

[dusky wyvern]

hmm, unless approved by them then il its best to stick with its stock wires

Any recommendation on Cases mid tower or full that is $200 and below? I need space, since i use a Cooler master MasterBox MB520 RGB atx mid tower

[slate creek]

Lian Li Lancool II Mesh, Corsair 4000D airflow, Phanteks P500a are all really good