cases-psu-and-cooling

[elfin trout]

I don't think EVGA PSUs are the main ones

Older Seasonic models had transient response issues tho

pre 2018

lmao

g3 would have the opposite of the transient response issue

it just wouldn't trip ocp

[fierce pivot]

I ran my 3070 on my evga w1 for about a month wouldn't worry too much

[elfin trout]

lmao

[fierce pivot]

600w too

[elfin trout]

meh

[fierce pivot]

Think you'll be okay lol

[elfin trout]

p sure bleach ran 2080ti and 3600 off a 450w unit

oh well

[fierce pivot]

Yikes

Was it a quality psu tho lol?

[elfin trout]

don't think so

[fierce pivot]

Well w1 is down as igpu only on the ltt tier list under little info so would hardly worry rommy lol

Fair

Np

[robust siren]

For the life of me I can't take off the front panel, even through theres a little area underneath to pull it, I've used all my strength and it won't budge, this is what the pins holding it in look like

[fierce pivot]

Think you're pulling on the front place, can you give a better picture

[scenic lance]

pliers

push it together

the prongs

[tender python]

Beast mode initiated

[fierce pivot]

I can't remember the name/brand but something meshilicous or something

I'd check out optimum tech on YouTube he does a load of itx builds and has a 3090 in his cant remember if its fe or not tho so

[noble leaf]

What case is this

[vestal wharf]

lian li?

[astral grail]

Yea LianLi Dynamic 011 - https://www.ebay.com/i/274194230090?chn=ps?_ul=MX (Couldn't find a fully white one on Amazon or Newegg the frame was always black)

[bleak fable]

someone told me my psu was bad do i need too get a new one

i have a corsair cv650

[sand atlas]

How is it bad? What's happening? What cpu and gpu?

[bleak fable]

i have a r5 3600 and a 2060 super

but people in the discord told me it was not a good psu

[sand atlas]

It's a tier c, not the best but it should hold up with those midrange parts

[bleak fable]

ok so i dont need too change it out

[sand atlas]

Not unless you start having problems

[bleak fable]

ok thanks

[hollow helm]

hi guys anyone know if you can use windex on tempered glass?

i mean it is glass

[opal night]

Yes, you can

[hollow helm]

o kool

just wanna be sure is all

thanks

[opal night]

YW

[slate creek]

If I by an lian li O11 dynamic would I be able to use my Corsair HX750 or do I need an SFX PSU?

[fierce pivot]

Pretty sure it uses standard atx psu

[edgy tiger]

Hi so this PSU is making a high pitched sound after being unplugged

Should i be worried

[chrome iris]

I've had that happen to me before with an Antec TP550

would happen when computer was turned off and would continue for about a minute while it was unplugged

i was told it was either just coil whine or a capacitor leaking

@edgy tiger what model psu is it

[edgy tiger]

Its an EVGA 400 watt

Seemed newish

[chrome iris]

400 N1?

[edgy tiger]

Maybe

No, 400w

Doesn’t say n1

[elfin trout]

uh

does it have any 80+ rating

if it doesn't have any 80+ rating, it's the N1

[vocal tree]

Look at the model num

Should be in there what it is?

[edgy tiger]

No 80+

[chrome iris]

its an N1

[edgy tiger]

Well IDC now anyway because i flipped it in a q9550+gt9800 pc

Made 50$

Thanks tho

[sharp remnant]

Just wondering, can PSU and Cooling have compatibility issues?

[elfin trout]

bar some extremely rare cases of just physically not fitting, they should not, unless one is just absolute crap

(No matter the cooling solution, if the PSU wants to light on fire, it will light on fire)

[sharp remnant]

okay

Mine's EVGA BA series.

I forgot the voltage, though.

[elfin trout]

BA is usable

[sharp remnant]

Okay.

That's a relief

[scenic lance]

What's a good affordable case with good airflow that can use a 280mm aio?

Not going to be doing much RGB/argb

Preferably mid sized at the biggest

[elfin trout]

p360a

[scenic lance]

Using a full ATX mobo

[elfin trout]

mx330-g air maybe, don't remember if it fit 240mm or 280mm

[scenic lance]

I can check

It's 240

[elfin trout]

aw

[scenic lance]

I like the p360a

I currently have the Corsair 4000D airflow rn

[elfin trout]

yeye

[scenic lance]

Can I remove the 3.5" drive bays in the p360A?

[sharp remnant]

Another question: Can I replace my case's front door with a tempered glass piece if I like that aesthetic?

Since it's merely a shell, and not actual hardware, would it hurt if I tried to use what I have?

[elfin trout]

Side or front..?

Slapping just glass on the front is not really a good idea for thermal concerns

[sharp remnant]

I meant the side.

The one side away from the mobo

Not next to

[elfin trout]

For side panel, if you could get it to fit, it'll be fine

[sharp remnant]

ok

[chrome iris]

BA has a really low quality fan and really low quality caps iirc, it is DC-DC though, which is cool, but other than that aspect its quite low end

[lone vessel]

Can anybody help me out ? I'm planning to buy be quiet 500dx but here is no information on if I can fit 2 140mm stock fans and 1 120mm in the front, it only says 3 120mm or 2 140mm support, I don't know if this is obvious but I'm new to building pc

[fierce pivot]

2 fans if 2 are 140mm afaik

[lone vessel]

yes but I need to know if I can add a 120 buttom of the two 140 in the front

[fierce pivot]

Tbh usually the 3rd fan only blows into the power supply shroud in the case anyway i don't think it helps that much

[lone vessel]

hmm

[fierce pivot]

Yeah if 2 fans are 140mm you can't add a 120 afaik

[lone vessel]

well if it doesn't makes a big impact then I don't need it

[fierce pivot]

2 in front and 1 in back is plenty for most

[lone vessel]

btw do I need to implement positive pressure in the case if I have dust filters everywhere ?

bottom top front are all covered

I was planning for 2 140mm front / 2 140mm top / 1 140mm back

[fierce pivot]

I would say positive pressure if possible

Reduces dust

Means less air is taken in through pcie slots etc

[lone vessel]

I see

Looks like I'm gonna go with default 3 stock fans put the top fan in the front and be done with it

@fierce pivot thanks a lot for helping out

[fierce pivot]

Nb

[willow sierra]

Quickie. I have in the shopping cart a focus gx series 80 plus gold, and a focus plus gold, which one should I get? Price is similar.

[fierce pivot]

What's the price of them?

[willow sierra]

USD or EURO?

[fierce pivot]

My go to's are enermax revolution df, msi pg(i think) or phanteks amp

Either is fine

[willow sierra]

154 the GX versus 179 USD the focus

[fierce pivot]

I'd check the phanteks amp, revolution df and msi mpg and see if they're around the same price

There's a few versions of the focus series iirc

[willow sierra]

More expensive. I need a 850w\

I have a 10 years old seasonic plus on one of the pcs whom had zero issues. Almost all other PCs needed PSU replacements.

[fierce pivot]

Ahhh i think focus gx then

[willow sierra]

Thanks

[rocky mulch]

I wanted a black Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL but everywhere that is willing to ship to Canada, is out of stock. I ended up ordering the original O11 Dynamic. Am I going to be disappointed?

[devout jackal]

Nah man

It’s a wonderful case, xl or not.

[rocky mulch]

I know its going to be a tight fit for my Asus ROG STRIX 3090 but according to measurements it should fit

[devout jackal]

It will deff fit

[fierce pivot]

Imo grab a td500 mesh or 5000d airflow instead but that's preference i guess

[rocky mulch]

That is reassuring! I bought an ASUS ROG G35CZ pre built with the 3090 in it and it only has 1x 80mm exhaust fan and the 240mm AIO fans. No intake fans, very little airflow, no space to add any either. I plan on transferring all the components over to the Lian Li

[rocky mulch]

How come? Is the airflow better or you just prefer the looks?

[fierce pivot]

Well it has a nice mesh front, think the airflow is better, nice and easy to work in and looks and lian li o11 doesn't come with fans iirc

[rocky mulch]

The lian li o11 comes with 3 I believe but I ordered 9x Cool Master MF120 halos anyways

The XL doesn't come with any fans

Personally I dont like the looks of the mesh in front of RGB fans. I had already ordered the Lian Li Lancool 2 Mesh and cancelled it a few minutes after because I just couldn't get with it

[fierce pivot]

Okay

Just worrying about the airflow for your 3090 too tho

[devout jackal]

Thoughts about the Darkflesh Dlm21 mesh case?

[rocky mulch]

Not really a fan of the looks

I thought the O11 had good airflow? Based on Gamers Nexus videos it seemed like it did really well and he only had 3 fans in it iirc

[fierce pivot]

Fair i think it's decent it's just also expensive I'm not really a lian li fan

[mild roost]

O11 is best suited for custom loop

Or AIO

and tbh o11 is everywhere especially in this server lmao

[fierce pivot]

Isn't o11 like 250$ 💀

[mild roost]

Yeah, it's expensive

More like for fancy builds with loops

It looks spot on with custom loops

[rocky mulch]

The O11 was $195 CAD. The O11 XL is $295 CAD

[fierce pivot]

Idk something bout the side intake and boxyness just makes it look weird to me

[elfin trout]

Well, if you look at the data, it performs similar to the STOCK Meshify C, which only comes with 1 rear fan, while noise normalized with 3 side fans

Also, keep in mind the review is 3 years old, many better cases have been made and sold since then

And, those cases tend to be cheaper than the o11, and come with enough stock fans.

O11 isn't bad in general, just the price, lack of included fans, and very mediocre performance makes it a bad choice for builders with any budget tbh

[rocky mulch]

But his test numbers are "standardized" are they not? So the O11 was tested with 3 intake fans on the side to get the number similar to a meshify. The O11 has the option for 6 more fans beyond that

[opal night]

The 011 has really weird airflow that doesn't work the best

If all 9 fans are used

[rocky mulch]

Meshify C seems to come with an intake and exhaust fan.

[elfin trout]

@rocky mulch standardized for fan noise, yes, and no, Meshify C just comes with 1 front 1 rear iirc

But also need to keep in mind newer cases like P400a, which can be like 4c cooler while stock, for cheaper.

Oh misread

But ye, Meshify C 1 front 1 rear stock

[rocky mulch]

Hmm, should I cancel my O11 order? I like the glass look and seeing everything, I understood it was a couple degrees hotter "stock" than other cases but figured with the extra fan capacity it would out perform

[open adder]

@rocky mulch its a good case for custom loop builds

It will be fine for normal use too ,but there are better options

[elfin trout]

It's just not good for the price

Again, it's not bad in general, it's just a bad choice when you have a budget in mind

[mild roost]

^

[rocky mulch]

I think no matter what case I buy, it is going to have better airflow than my G35CZ case

[remote zinc]

Are rosewill cases any good?

[fierce pivot]

Not really? How much do you want to spend on a case?

[remote zinc]

I already have one lol

It was like 50$ CAD so not bad

But it could also be why my fans are always going crazy

[late star]

@sand atlas Hey man

Just got the new psu replacement

I wanted to ask, shouldvI use single rail or multi rail?

[elfin trout]

what wattage PSU

[late star]

750w

[elfin trout]

wait, what PSU then?

[late star]

Had to rma old one

This one is a hx

Hx 750

And previous was a rm 750 x

[elfin trout]

Oh well, single rail will do just fine for 750w

850w+ multi rail might be better

[late star]

Should I use multi?

Is multi fine.

[elfin trout]

But if it's an option, might as well..?

[late star]

Yea ok

It was free so..

[elfin trout]

lol

[late star]

They didn't have the 750 rmx.

They gave me this as a replacement for it

Old psu kept shutting down system.

Had to rma it

So yea lol

[sand atlas]

Free upgrades are nice

Might as well do multi rail, the only difference is over current response time usually

Or some response time, don't remember exactly which

[late star]

Thanks man.

[slate creek]

I keep jumping between the Corsair 4000D airflow, Fractal Meshify 2 compact and Lian Li O11 Dynamic

Any help on what I should go for?

[sand atlas]

I'd do the 4000d airflow but the meshify 2 is good too. Airflow is weird in the O11.

[slate creek]

Why?

I’m planning to use an Arctic freezer II 360 if that changes things at all

[sand atlas]

If you have all the fan slots occupied in the O11 you get a lot more intake than exhaust

You'd have to run the exhaust fans faster to compensate for the pressure difference, adding noise

Any of those cases will fit a 360 radiator just fine

[slate creek]

Couldn’t I just have the top 3 fans as intake and the bottom 3 as exhaust?

And use the 360 rad on the side?

[opal night]

Uh, hot air rises so bottom intake and top exhaust

Don't fight the heat by blowing it down

[slate creek]

Forgot about that

And I’m guessing if I had the bottom as intake it would bring dust and bad airflow in?

[sand atlas]

There's usually a filter

And if there's not you can buy filters that attach to the fans

[slate creek]

Ahh ok

Seems like too many headaches with the O11

Down to the 4000D and Meshify 2 Compact

[tacit wren]

Forces on the air due to convection are insignificant vs those due to the fans.

[sand atlas]

Insignificant sure, but in some cases every % counts

[opaque axle]

if convection is measurably impacting your thermals you have some bigger issues

[late star]

@sand atlas Problem fixed with new PSU.

Thanks for all the help bro.

Really appreciate it.

[late star]

Also

There is like a buzzing / humming sound.

Not sure what it is.

[mild roost]

It could just be coil whine

It's harmless but annoying

[late star]

Hm

Everytime I touch the case it stops

[mild roost]

Mhmm, is it like high frequency sound?

A coil whine is always in high frequency, so it's annoying

[marble nimbus]

I need a new case any recommendations ?

[bleak fable]

is this good

[mild roost]

Yes

Can go cheaper with others, iirc, but it's still decent as is

[bleak fable]

whats argb

[mild roost]

Addressable rgb

Or configurable

Just to be simple

[bleak fable]

so should i get rgb or argb

[mild roost]

Up to you

If you want uh, a loop of rainbow, I guess

[bleak fable]

no argb i can change the colors

[mild roost]

Yeah, assumed so lel

[bleak fable]

will this fit in it

[fierce pivot]

Very well performing meah case yes

[fierce pivot]

Tes

[bleak fable]

will a 120 mm fit right here

cause it looks small

[opal night]

Looks like a 92mm spot to me

[bleak fable]

It says support for 7 120 mm

That's wierd lol it looks like a small spot

[chrome iris]

Yeah, join TD500 mesh gang

[vocal tree]

The front shroud looks silly to me 😩

[opal night]

Me too

I dislike it

[chrome iris]

It’s dreamy

[bleak fable]

I bought it

Can u put a 120 mm in the back

[vocal tree]

You can look on their website

[weary vine]

Would look sick in black

With red accented lights

[bleak fable]

I rock with white lights

I got the black one

[scenic lance]

Are either of these a good case: Antec Dark League DF600 Flux or Rosewill Cullinane MX

[fierce pivot]

Not heard of them, what's your price range?

[scenic lance]

$75 preferably, $85 max

Requirements are mid sized ATX, atleast 6 120mm fan slots, and capable of a 360mm AIO

[fierce pivot]

I'm pretty sure p400a has 6 fan slots and support for front 360

[royal jacinth]

Anyone know of places where I can find cases in different primary colors than the typical black and white that I see everywhere?

[scenic lance]

Theres pink cases

I think fractal has green, blue, and other colors

https://www.newegg.com/mystic-red-fractal-design-focus-g-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352074?Item=N82E16811352074&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-TYCVqPo87IWqjFmK9bVjJQ

Here's link

[royal jacinth]

I'll look into fractal then. I've seen pink cases but I want to go for like a "Jungle" theme and I'm not artistic/confident in my painting skills to paint a whole case a certain color to match my idea without there being obvious flaws in the paint

[scenic lance]

Would get one, but not enough fans for me lol

[royal jacinth]

Ooh that blue looks nice too

[scenic lance]

Fractal makes brown, green, and some others

[royal jacinth]

Awesome. Thank you so much

[elfin trout]

You could just look around on pcpp

Pcpp has a good amount of listings for various cases

[scenic lance]

That's where I found that lol

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#t=3&sort=price&m=106 @royal jacinth

Here's fractal specifically

[royal jacinth]

Bet. Thanks a lot

[scenic lance]

👍

[lapis mantle]

I bought an NZXT case

I feel ashamed

[opal night]

They look nice

Just get warm with good parts in them

[lapis mantle]

They do look nice but the airflow is absolute garbage

And im worried about that

[vocal tree]

Get stronk fans

Pressure optimized

[lapis mantle]

I guess I could

[vocal tree]

Does it support 140 mil

[lapis mantle]

yeah

[vocal tree]

Ah nice

Beeg fanz

[lapis mantle]

Its a H510 elite

The only place to put an aio is right in front of the front fans

And im worried that because it blocks the front fans I'll get negative pressure in the PC

[vocal tree]

It's a white case right

[lapis mantle]

Yep

[vocal tree]

Get one of those fancy white air coolers

224 idcoolong

Or whatever

[lapis mantle]

Would there be anything else to do?

Mostly because I like aios

[vocal tree]

Idk

Get double the fans for the radiator ig

Push pull

[lapis mantle]

Alright

I might get a different chassis anyway

Aight thanks man

[scenic lance]

Dude at best buy tried to sell me a h510 elite saying it can support a 360mm aio

I literally laugh out loud and questioned if he was serious

[elfin trout]

lol

[hazy comet]

whats a good looking case in black

[sand atlas]

Meshify c, p500a, 4000d airflow
All decent for the price

[rocky mulch]

Looks are all in the eye of the beholder. I really like the looks of the Lian Li O11 Dynamic/XL

[hazy comet]

oh yeah matx cause i got the evga 3060 so its a smoll card. wouldnt want it to be in a big case ngl

i was thinking mbl311

[sand atlas]

This one? https://www.techpowerup.com/review/cooler-master-masterbox-mb311l-argb/
4/5 not bad

[hazy comet]

how about p200a @sand atlas it lso looks good

nvm

hhd and psu can be seen in case

[sand atlas]

It's also ITX not mATX

[hazy comet]

thgoughts on darkflash case

[sand atlas]

Which one?

[hazy comet]

dlm21

apparently the 3060 evga is only 8.3 inches

only one i could get. but im not complaining

[hazy comet]

eh well i think imma go with mbl311

wouldnt wanna deal with garbage cable managment

[lapis mantle]

"yOu CaN pUt It On ThE tOp Of ThE cAsE"

Thats what I've heard them say

I swear they don't even say that stuff to make more money, no they say it because they literally don't know how it works

[rough sierra]

so ive heard that air dirrection is supposed to go bottom to top, front to back. i have mine set up to top to bottom.. does this do anything worse than bottom to top?

[opal night]

Might fight the heat a bit

Heat rises

so help it rise instead of trying to force it down

[rough sierra]

i was thnking that, but its kinda dusty where i have it andthere no dust filter on the bottom fan]

[opal night]

So what you want in that situation is positive pressure

More intake air than exhaust air

To keep the case pressurized and the dust out

So like, 5 intake and 4 exhaust

Or 4 intake and 3 exhaust

[chrome iris]

I was an owner of a DLM21 non mesh, I don’t agree with most of this. The panels I can understand, but cable management was great. No USB problems either, really was a great MATX case but I think it’s bad value cause there’s no fans included

[plucky citrus]

Anyone know so really good case brands. I'm looking for some opinions.

I'd be needing a large case that could fit at least 2x480 rads.

Not sure who makes some nice big cases.

@ me with any suggestions please.

[lapis mantle]

nzxt is alright but recent ones have horrible airflow and can only support 240mm aios

I would say Corsair is a very good brand for cases

[quick dirge]

I mean one 480 is a lot but two is pretty yikes

[lapis mantle]

Oh wow I didn't even read that part tbh

[quick dirge]

Yeah, I mean a lot of cases will do 360mm too but

[opal night]

Enthoo primo. Top and bottom 480mm rads.

[quick dirge]

Well there ya go, vintage has the answer to all. I do wanna take a look at that thing though cause two 480s is a good bit of radiator

[lapis mantle]

Oh wow that thing is gigantic

[plucky citrus]

Heres my thing

I have a little experience with rads.

[lapis mantle]

I know super sized cases and builds existed but that is HUGE

[plucky citrus]

You know maybe just a little.

And I know for a fact to cool an overclocked 10700K and my RTX 3080 I need at least a 480 and a 360mm.

[lapis mantle]

I mean you do have the techie rank

[plucky citrus]

That's not why I have experience with rads. This is why...

[opal night]

Phanteks enthoo line has lots of options.

[quick dirge]

Yes™️

[plucky citrus]

But I'm thinking about moving all this into a super nice big case.

[lapis mantle]

WHAT

[plucky citrus]

I want something nice so I'm gonna have to check out that Phantex line.

[quick dirge]

Yeah just looked at the ethnoo and that’s actually a neat little case

[lapis mantle]

That's so much radiator

[plucky citrus]

I really only need 2

[quick dirge]

Not too huge for support for that much radiator

[plucky citrus]

The point of little return value ends at 2.

Anymore than 2 isn't needed.

Figured that out.

[quick dirge]

Yeahhh

Seems like overkill to go 360x480

[opal night]

You havent seen his overclocks lol

Hwbot records

[lapis mantle]

Im guessing its absolutely insane

yep

[quick dirge]

Yeahhhh, with that much radiator it better be impressive

I kinda want to get into custom loops and my O11D XL could definitely give me room to I just already have a AIO setup

[lapis mantle]

Custom water cooling freaks me out to be honest

I feel like if I mess up water leaks everywhere and my entire build is broken

[quick dirge]

Maybe when I start to go 3080 hunting, cause I could totally go for a wate-blocked 3080 and have my case fit the entire loop

[lapis mantle]

Im 3070 hunting right now

Found one on ebay but It looks scammy

its a PNY too

[plucky citrus]

I mean to be fair I do like the open air set up

[lapis mantle]

not that thats bad but

[plucky citrus]

It actually works really well.

[quick dirge]

There was a LMG video that caught my eye, a prebuilt with a lian li-O11D XL like I have but it had a custom loop and the res was on the front panel and it looked SO nice

I kinda feel tempted to try and do something like that

But better

Cause the O11D XL has three max 360 and one 140/120 back exhaust so it gives a lot of options

And it’s got so much room so 🤷‍♂️

[lapis mantle]

Wanna hear something funny

[quick dirge]

sure

[lapis mantle]

So I was at BestBuy Looking at cases right

And theres two that catch my eye

The NZXT h510 elite and the Corsair 220t

I end up buying the nzxt one and then realize that it has horrible airflow and its not comp with 360mm aios

So then I look up what cases have the best airflow

And guess what the second one was on the list I was looking at was

[quick dirge]

Yeah, I prefer Corsair over NZXT in most cases

[lapis mantle]

The corsair case on the list was the one I was looking at, at bestbuy

I was a little mad lol

[quick dirge]

Yeah, always best to just do a pcpartpicker

It’s pretty good about catching compatibility errors even with cases

[rough sierra]

Corsair has better cases I think

[fierce pivot]

Well the 220t is meh but cases like the 4000d and 5000d airflow are good

[elfin trout]

Corsair is just wack tho

both companies are kinda crappy

[dawn matrix]

we stan meshify 2 compact

and p400 i guess

[open adder]

Corsair cases are good

Some of them atleast

[weary vine]

some

[open adder]

Well every company have some good and some bad products

[willow kettle]

so i have a 3070 and 5600x, atx mobo, and 32gb 4x8 ram with a 750w psu. I cant find a calculator that lets me put two different gpus in so i have to ask u guys. With this current setup, if i would add a 3060 and just mine on it while I game on the 3070, would a 750w be enough? And btw i also dont like big time miners and scalpers but i have a friend who got a 3060 but cant use it so he was gonna give it to me but i wanna know if the psu can handle it. Thanks

[opal night]

If you power limit the 3060 with a profile in Afterburner, it should be fine, yes

Or another GPU program

3070 is ~220W

5600x is ~120W

750W PSU should be more than enough for both of those

Provided the 750W is a good quality one I don't see an issue provided you have enough PCI-E cables

[opal night]

See above

[sand atlas]

Calculators in general aren't great but this one meets the multi-gpu requirement https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

[willow kettle]

Sweet! thanks guys

[rich hazel]

are deepcool psus fine

[opal night]

Mmmmmm

Depends on the model

[rich hazel]

cuz i found one thats the same price as the revolution df thats 80 gold as well and 100 watts more

lemme send it

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PsLFf7/deepcool-dq-m-v2l-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-dp-gd-dq850-m-v2l this one

[opal night]

Nope

not good quality

Need the DQM without the V2

You need a 650W unit?

750W?

750

IN that case, Phanteks Amp

Or the REvo DF

[balmy badge]

you know the joke with PC gamers, more RGB = more FPS
turns out, more RGB can actually be detrimental to your system.
RGB typically runs off of +5v, powered by your PSU. most PSU's dont actively cool your +5v delivery
if you have a LOT of RGB
that +5v will overheat
and will force your PSU fan to run at 100% full tilt anytime the RGB is on

[slate axle]

gets pinned

[balmy badge]

eh dont need to pin the screenshot

[slate axle]

YES

HE PINNED IT HAHA

[opal night]

Aight

[slate axle]

hello future self

[opal night]

easy enough to find with the pin XD

[balmy badge]

yeah

[fierce pivot]

Lmao

[slate axle]

la’ mowe

[umbral cypress]

where do these go

there from my psu

[vocal tree]

Look at the labels on the connectors

EPS or CPU goes to the CPU power on the mobo

PCIE goes to your GPU

[slate axle]

do u have a manual

[umbral cypress]

oh ok thanks

[open ivy]

Anyone know if the 750w Revolution DF is loud?

[sand atlas]

It's fine, not noticeable over other parts

[outer folio]

@open ivy https://photo.coolenjoy.net/data/editor/1909/20190906131946_8027a348f8067de4604d0502a7693fc7_biew.jpg should be very quiet thanks to the UCTBA14P

[scenic lance]

https://shopee.ph/Seasonic-Core-80-Plus-Gold-PSU-GX-GM-GC-TUF-Gaming-500-550-650-Watts-80-ATX-Power-Supply-w-Modular-i.73467985.4460909479

thoughts on this?, i'll be buying a semi-modular psu, at least bronze rating and around 500w-600w

and also, does semi-modular only have the 24pin Mobo, 8pin CPU, and PCIe connector for the GPU permanently attached?

[opal night]

Most are just CPU and ATX connected

You need those anyway

That PSU will be fine

[scenic lance]

cool, thank you

[outer folio]

core GM has 24 pin ATX and 4+4pin EPS

[scenic lance]

what's EPS

[slate axle]

extra pressure string

nah jk idk

[opal night]

CPU power

[scenic lance]

so only those two are permanently attached

[outer folio]

yes

[scenic lance]

my pc can finally breathe lol

thanks

[devout jackal]

Is a seasonic 650w psu bronze rating trustable?

[opal night]

If it's the S12III, then no

[devout jackal]

Why not?

[opal night]

Bad quality

Really bad

[devout jackal]

Any other recommendations than?

[opal night]

Corsair CX

SHould be about the same price

Not CXM, CX

[devout jackal]

Is the 550 ok?

[opal night]

S12III?

No

None of the S12III are good

[devout jackal]

No thr CX

[opal night]

Ya

It's good

[devout jackal]

Bett, u think i can upgrade to a 30 series with it?

[opal night]

3060 only

3060TI needs more juice

[devout jackal]

I understand, thanks bro!

[opal night]

YW

[untold temple]

Is there such thing as a 2.5 to 3.5 Conversion bay for computer cases

[elfin trout]

Yes, for 2.5in drive mounting equipment for a 3.5in bay

but you can't really make a drive bay bigger

[hybrid robin]

is it normal to have a missing pin connector from my power supply? from the 24pin one?

[vocal tree]

ATX spec dropped that pin years ago

[hybrid robin]

so its normal?

[sand atlas]

Yes

[slate creek]

I thought I was finally set on a new case but today I found the lian li lancool II mesh

How is it compared to the Meshify 2 Compact

[fierce pivot]

lian li is bigger but imo td500 mesh or corsair 4000d are better and cheaper

[slate creek]

Ahh ok

I’ll stick with the meshify 2 compact since I want something smaller

[fierce pivot]

Fair

I'd go p360a then personally

Or something like that

[scenic lance]

does a EVGA 750 BQ, 80+ BRONZE 750W, Semi Modular fit in a Corsair 4000D Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX PC Case - White

[fierce pivot]

Yes

But that's a meh power supply

Wouldn't buy

[scenic lance]

what do you recommend

@fierce pivot

[fierce pivot]

What's the rest of system/budget

[scenic lance]

1000-1200

and is the 4000D Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower a good case?

[open adder]

Yes

[elfin trout]

decent

[unreal rover]

Is Bronze Rating in general good or is it better to stick w/ Gold Rating?

[sand atlas]

It's only an efficiency rating and has no effect on overall build quality

There's gold rated power supplies that literally explode under load

[unreal rover]

oh fun

thanks

[fierce pivot]

Enermax revolution df 750w then or phanteks amp whichever cheaper

[tiny summit]

Question: Are the Corsair- RMx Series RM1000x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply CP-9020201-NA any good?

[opal night]

yes

[tiny summit]

is it better than the old generation? 2018?

[sand atlas]

Both are A tier anyway

But minor improvements were made

[tiny summit]

hey Fal'cie. I been trying to find information, and there just a tread on Linus tech that was it

[sand atlas]

This one?
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

[fierce pivot]

the ltt tier list is pretty

[tiny summit]

well I tried searching there

Other. let me send it

@sand atlas https://linustechtips.com/topic/1320324-corsair-rmx-2021/

when I search CP-9020201-NA on google that came up

[sand atlas]

Well it seems to be the new model and little information is available from professional reviewers that do load testing. Seeing as the previous 2 models of the same name are the best of the best A tier (gold lettering on the tier list) I'd say the new model is a safe bet.

[tiny summit]

awesome @sand atlas I may wait for more reviews and see

decent price for what is available atm

[sand atlas]

Agreed, I picked up the 850 recently and it's going strong with my overclocked 5800X and 3090. I don't foresee any problems with either 850 or 1000W.

[tiny summit]

ahh, is your 3090 a normal GPU or special clock?

[sand atlas]

Only $140 for the 850W straight from corsair and some of the best testing stats I've seen

It's an overclocked 3090 with an AIO attached even

300W when mining, 400W when I stress test

[tiny summit]

nice

so how much wattage it uses your 5900X and 3090?

[tiny summit]

Is tat GPU and CPU? or just the GPU?

[sand atlas]

Between the cpu and gpu I'm probably pulling 550W running furmark and prime95 at the same time

[tiny summit]

ohh

I was thinking that 3080 and 3090 requires a max 750W PSU

[sand atlas]

Well other components use power too, my memory is overclocked also and I have a bunch of fans, hard drives, rgb, etc so if I ran everything on max at once I'd probably get closer to 750W

[tiny summit]

ok, just trying to figure it out. I may get a 3080ti or a 3090(if possible) with a 10900K. Just waiting for GPU(money)

[sand atlas]

10900k uses more power than AMD

You'd want a 850W, it can use almost 100W more with limits removed

[tiny summit]

true. I was thinking 850 or 1200W(max)

I may go with that 1k from corsair

I may OC the 10900K to 4.8 or 5.0 if possible with a AIO

[sand atlas]

1000+ is typically only used by mining rigs with multiple GPUs

[tiny summit]

Ok. So Fal'cie you
recommend 850W?

[sand atlas]

850 is still plenty. Any higher and you're paying more per Watt also since miners bought all the 1000+ units

[boreal cove]

I love the complimentary bomb you get along with the gpu, in newegg shuffle

[elfin trout]

https://youtu.be/XqY-BL5pLjQ?t=202

[scenic lance]

Do you guys think this is a great psu for the performance?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08SQQVZQL/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_glt_fabc_A42KDDBABDZXC9JS807C

ARESGAME 850W Power Supply Fully Modular 80+ Gold PSU (AGK850) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08SQQVZQL/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_glt_fabc_A42KDDBABDZXC9JS807C

[fierce pivot]

No bad psu, if you need an 850w psu get enermax revolution df

[weary vine]

aresgame bad psus actually

[vocal tree]

only one aresgame psu on the tier list

and it's d tier

[fierce pivot]

Yeah that's why i said, no bad psu lol

No, bad psu*

[weary vine]

Ahhh i see thought you meant not bad psu

[scenic lance]

What abt the Corsair CX750F RGB

[fierce pivot]

Nah

Rgb in a psu is pointless

[fierce pivot]

What wattage do you need ?

[scenic lance]

650-750

[fierce pivot]

What country?

[scenic lance]

US

[fierce pivot]

Enermax revolution df or phanteks amp or msi mpg

[scenic lance]

Thx

Is this a good MSI mpg? MSI 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

[fierce pivot]

Yeah

V good

But what specs are you getting 650w would be too tight if you're going 3080 for example?

[scenic lance]

K

What abt a 3060?

I’m think of getting that due to the price to value

Ratio

[fierce pivot]

Msi one would be perfect for it

If you going 3070 or less 650w will be fine

[scenic lance]

Alr thx

[devout jackal]

How much power does a i5-11400F and 3060ti take?

[elfin trout]

3060ti ~200w max, 11400f 65w with normal pl, up to 150w no pl

[devout jackal]

So how much wattage psu do i need?

[elfin trout]

550+ will do fine

500 works too

[devout jackal]

Ya think a CX550 wil run fine with it

[elfin trout]

ye

don't do CX-m, but CX is good

[devout jackal]

What’s CXM? The ones with a M at the end?

[elfin trout]

ye

[devout jackal]

Bett, thanks bro

[elfin trout]

:)

[vocal tree]

the m means semi modular

[elfin trout]

and also just bad

whiney

worse internals

[vocal tree]

well

yea 😎

why did they decide it was okay to make the "higher end" version worse lmao

[devout jackal]

Is the MWE V2 Bronze series bad?

[fierce pivot]

It's okay, what wattage do you need, there's def a better around the same price or not much more

[broken socket]

i want to disconnect my rgb how do i do that

[devout jackal]

Around 50-60 dollars, i have seen the S12III 650w too. Pretty good reviews

[fierce pivot]

no no s12ii bad

[devout jackal]

really?

[fierce pivot]

yeah

how many watts?

[devout jackal]

Yeah the problem is, i don't wanna spend that much for like a high end psu. I just want something with 550w that can deliver enough power for my upgrade soon: 3060ti and i5-11400F

[fierce pivot]

id go segotep 600w

its like 50$

[devout jackal]

I'm look it up wait a sec

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q2K2FT/segotep-gp-600-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-600w-non-modular

[devout jackal]

It's not available in the netherlands

[fierce pivot]

ohh

whats your budget in euro then

[devout jackal]

50-60

[fierce pivot]

thats a pretty low budget for psu

for decent system

what total system budget?

[devout jackal]

What do you mean with system>?

I already have a pc, i just wanna upgrade it later on

Rn i have a RX 480 and I5-4460.

[fierce pivot]

ahh

[devout jackal]

Thats why i want 550w

[fierce pivot]

but whats your upgrade budget then

what do you have now?

[devout jackal]

Gpu: Rx 480
Copu: i5-4460
PSu: Some weird brand i dont know
mobo: H81MHv3

[fierce pivot]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/qkbCmG/cooler-master-mwe-white-v2-230v-650-w-80-certified-atx-power-supply-mpe-6501-acabw-eu

that should do

[devout jackal]

But it is white certified isn't that bad

[fierce pivot]

no it just means its slightly less energy efficient

ohh actually that ones c tier 🙄

[devout jackal]

rip

[fierce pivot]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/r2TPxr/evga-br-600w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-100-br-0600-k1

this one would be same tier as the 550w mwe bronze

[devout jackal]

Ya think it can run my upgrade fine?

[fierce pivot]

11400 and 3060 ti?

yeah

[devout jackal]

ye

bett, thank you so much !!

[fierce pivot]

id personally go 650w

because hardly any upgrade room

which means no overclocking gpu

[devout jackal]

Yeah i won't

so no worries bout that

[fierce pivot]

okay

just means youll have to buy again if you want to upgrade in future but should be okay

[devout jackal]

yeah it should be good, thank you

[chrome iris]

650w on an RX 480?

[vocal tree]

500w is more than enough

[opal night]

They're upgrading tho

3060TI

[fierce pivot]

They upgrading to 3060 ti that's why they want a new psu

[vocal tree]

Ic ic

[chrome iris]

Did you recommend a 600 BR???

[fierce pivot]

Their budget was 50-60€

No segotep in eu

Psus are awkward to get for cheap in eu

[chrome iris]

Yet they can spend 400 on a GPU?

[fierce pivot]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[chrome iris]

I would never put a BR on a 3060 Ti

[fierce pivot]

That's why i asked what their total system budget was but they never responded

Ehh it's c tier would be fine

[chrome iris]

That’s just asking for it

It’s barely C tier

It’s really not good

Great budget unit, bad for anything even mid range or better

[fierce pivot]

Well i was working with what i had a budget of 60

[chrome iris]

Imo, you shoulda said:
“60 will mot get you anything good for a 3060 Ti, and it is entirely worth it to allocate more budget, because any power supply in the 60 price range is very low end for such a high end card”

[fierce pivot]

I basically did

[chrome iris]

Is CX550 in the price range he has? If it isn’t it’s gotta be barely any more

[fierce pivot]

Nah

Not even available

[chrome iris]

I’d get a CX550 over a 600 BR literally any day

Hmm

[fierce pivot]

I'll show you the list lol

Those the options lol

Did discord compress too much?

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#A=550000000000,2000000000000&sort=price&page=1

If so there's the link for 550w+

[chrome iris]

I’m looking rn

[elfin trout]

TXM at 75 maybe xD

[chrome iris]

You can get a BQ for 56

Ah wait 500w

I’d want 550w for a 3060 Ti

[elfin trout]

I mean

500w will work fine with lower end cpus

[fierce pivot]

They said 50-60

[elfin trout]

heh

[fierce pivot]

Yeah

Ik

[chrome iris]

Be quiet system power 9 for 62, still Better than BR at least

[fierce pivot]

No system power 9 is like d tier

[chrome iris]

I literally just checked

[fierce pivot]

Bq still c tier too

[chrome iris]

Yeah and BR is almost D tier

[fierce pivot]

Ohh nvm it's c

I swear it was d lol

[chrome iris]

I’m pretty sure the only saving grace for it is the DC-DC instead of grey up regulation

If that boy was group regulated it would be D

[fierce pivot]

Fair

[chrome iris]

But man just stepping up 15 gets you a TXM

Which is a massive quality leap for only 15 more

[fierce pivot]

Ik but their budget was 50-60 for some reason and i was like ehhh

[vocal tree]

Pure Power 11 is nice but probably too expensive

[chrome iris]

PP11 is good but TXM is a little better iirc

[fierce pivot]

Yes nice but over dumb budget ;-;

[vocal tree]

Yea

My 500w is 70 dollars lol

[chrome iris]

Bruh

[fierce pivot]

Was it older though at least?

Like 6 or so years ago ?

[vocal tree]

Nah still 70 bucks

I bought mine probably early 2020

When psus were nowhere to be found at a good price

[fierce pivot]

Yikes wth

[vocal tree]

Just my luck

[fierce pivot]

Big f

[vocal tree]

My 280w FSP conked out right when nothing was available

But it's a good psu at the end of the day

[fierce pivot]

But 500w is bad upgradability :/ i guess you use low specs tho lol

[vocal tree]

I remember CX650 being available for a short time for way cheaper than a 550 but that got gobbled up quick

[fierce pivot]

I see

[vocal tree]

I didn't really anticipate wanting to get very power hungry hardware with what I have, 2080tis are even perfectly fine on a 550w

3000 series just really hungry yea

[fierce pivot]

Wth really no? But 3070 is pretty close to 2080 ti

[opal night]

2080TI's pull 300+W

3070 pulls 220W

[vocal tree]

A good 550w will take it no sweat

Words commonly thrown around on this server in the 2000 series days

[fierce pivot]

Yeah lol 3070 takes less power with similar perf lol? I would not put a 3070 on a 550w, mb if it was an a tier

[vocal tree]

Anyway I never really wanted to get an 80 or 80ti card of any series, 1650 super and such were what I was interested in

[fierce pivot]

Easier to get a 3060 about as cheap as a 1650 super these days

[vocal tree]

Yea

I gave up on that, got a 970 instead

I don't really want any more primary upgrades beyond that, i7-4790 + GTX 970 is enough

Anything significantly more power hungry, powerful, or both, would be unbalanced

[fierce pivot]

Fair enough lol

[vocal tree]

Someday I might do a whole new build when I make money lol

[chrome iris]

I have an i7-4790 combo, I just need a GPU for it

[vocal tree]

Put a 2060 super in it

[chrome iris]

No

I want GTX 980 or R9 390

[fierce pivot]

r9 380 is like 960 equiv, is r9 390 that much better?

[chrome iris]

R9 390 performs a fair bit worse than GTX 980 but it has 8gb VRAM which is a good selling point

[fierce pivot]

ahh yeah thats what i thought

[devout jackal]

I have a question about my case fans

I currently have the Sharkoon TH4 case but i am planning to buy a Darkflash DLM21 mesh. The point is that the dlm21 doesn’t include fans but i really want the case. Am i able to reuse my old case fans and still control the led?

[open sinew]

yep

[flint laurel]

I mean should be able to

[open sinew]

just need to take any fan hubs you might have in the old caSE

[flint laurel]

dont see why not

[devout jackal]

Because on the case i currently have, there is a button to control the led of the fans

[flint laurel]

ah what connectors do they use for the fans?

[devout jackal]

I have no idea to be honest

[flint laurel]

if its like argb or rgb you can connect it to the mobo and use software to control the rgb

assuming your mobo has an rgb connector tho

[devout jackal]

My build is pretty bad, that’s why i’m asking. When i am buying the new case i am upgrading my specs too

Otherwise if my bios or mobo for some reason does not support it i will just buy some led fans

Any suggestions? I need like 4 but don’t wanna overspend on stupid corsair fans

[outer folio]

Enermax HF120s are pretty affordable at $39.99 for 3

[fierce pivot]

But arctic p12 5 pack 25$ :/

[proud arch]

What’s the difference between p12 and f12?

[sand atlas]

P12 is pressure optimized for liquid cooling

[vocal tree]

F12 is airflow optimized, for high airflow

[elfin trout]

P12 is the newer fan

I'd take the p12 even for case airflow

[noble leaf]

i use p12s

they work great

[lilac frost]

So do I they r very good

Is a lian li 205m a good matx case?

[outer folio]

it's alright

[opal night]

Define budget?

OH EZPZ

XD

Which one?

Aresgame or something?

GameMax?

One model is passable at Tier C, was it the RGB one or no RGB?

OH yeah, that one isn't very good, one sec

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-bronze-sf-650r14he-650w/p/1HU-024C-00017

I'm looking for a gold though

If you don't mind a bit more this one is top of the class https://www.newegg.com/enermax-80-plus-erf650awt-650w/p/1HU-0042-000P8

👍

OH yeah good lookin out

That enermax won't break a sweat with it

[scenic lance]

Is the ARESGAME 850W Power Supply Fully Modular 80+ Gold PSU (AGT850) a truth worthy psu?

[opal night]

Not at all

If you need 850W, Enermax Revolution DF

[scenic lance]

What abt MSI mpg?

[opal night]

issue with the MPG is poor 12 volt rail regulation

[scenic lance]

What about the CX750F or CX750

[opal night]

CX750 would be fine ya

[scenic lance]

Is there something wrong with the F version

[opal night]

RGB?

#cases-psu-and-cooling message

[scenic lance]

I don’t care if there is or isn’t rgb. It just has to preform well

[north fox]

F version has RGB, with RGB disabled however it goes up an efficiency rating to 80+silver

[elfin trout]

Uh

I don't think it can just go up in efficiency rating

Ye 5v rail will prob be more efficient when it doesn't have to be cooled but

Well

Who knows

[north fox]

.

[elfin trout]

Yeye

[north fox]

Ah yeah my phrasing not accurate, but it’s more efficient

[elfin trout]

@north fox but no confirmation on how the efficiency curve looks without rgb, and if it actually meets 80+ silver

Like on clearesult, the efficiency curve doesn't meet 80+ silver

But yea, rgb off is more efficient, we can agree on that.

[outer folio]

uhh, is this good?

[fierce pivot]

Afaik yes

[elfin trout]

Leadex III bronze eh

[opal night]

For their budget

If you have something better then post it.

[elfin trout]

Should be good

[outer folio]

I mean, their budget was $120

suggesting an $80 unit with no reviews or even internal pictures is strange

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rz2bt6/corsair-cxf-650-w-80-bronze-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020217-na https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qbK2FT/seasonic-focus-650-w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-focus-gm-650
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bq6qqs/msi-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a650gf

these would be my picks

[fierce pivot]

If their budget was 120 i would just go msi or enermax revolution df, the cxf is only b tier

[outer folio]

sure, that's fine

[fierce pivot]

Fine? Revolution df is one of the best psu's you can get the 750w for 115 or so and it's a multi rail rmx basically

[outer folio]

nice

[blissful crystal]

I just installed a evga rtx 3070 ftw3 ultra and I loaded into a game and my usp started beeping I did crank up the settings is it because of how much power I drew?

[fierce pivot]

What psu do you hsve

[blissful crystal]

Corsair rm850 gold

[fierce pivot]

I've never heard of one beeping tho

That's plenty

[blissful crystal]

It’s my backup power supply

[fierce pivot]

Are you sure your psu is beeping?

That's plenty for a 3070 even with an extreme oc

[blissful crystal]

That my pc plugs into it makes a beeping noise whenever there is a power outage but there is not a power outage soo

[fierce pivot]

Ehh

Maybe make sure your psu's kettle lead is fully plugged into the wall and the pc

[blissful crystal]

Gotcha thanks

Yea I found out whats wrong my usp cannot simply handle the load when I crank up the settings lmao

[opal night]

MPG has really bad 12v regulation. Worse than seasonic s12iii. Not recommended. Ill find thebtest and post it again. It never hit 12vdc and often went to 11.5 or 11.6.

[opal night]

Also, thanks for noticing we went with an enermax and posting about it the next day anyway.

[outer folio]

Revolution DF 650w for $110 is a terrible deal

$100, oops

[fierce pivot]

ohh really? i thought it was a good psu? its on a tier :(

[snow compass]

Good afternoon all!

I am using the NewEgg builder and when I select the Quadro RTX5000 video card, I have no cases available... Anyone know what incompatability it has with all the cases on NewEgg?

[fierce pivot]

ehh just use https://pcpartpicker.com/list

[slate creek]

I really hope you’re not using it for gaming, if it’s for cad and rendering you’re fine. But if it’s for gaming that’s a horrible idea

[snow compass]

Nice @fierce pivot ! Thanks!

Its for SolidWorks. I am attempting to "Future Proof" the engineering department here at work.

[zinc arch]

Yea that's a more than acceptable reason for a quadro then

[fierce pivot]

np

[zinc arch]

some people just think they'll use them for gaming and pay more for a card that's less optimized for gaming

[snow compass]

Think air cooled will be ok or should I look into liquid cooling?

[zinc arch]

what cpu? but air should probably be fine

[snow compass]

i9 11900k

[fierce pivot]

i would not go 11900k

[snow compass]

I was thinking the i9 11900k with 64gb ram. backed by a 1200w psu and a quadro rtx5000 video card
and a pair of Samsung 870 QVO's @ 4tb each in raid...

[zinc arch]

yea for solidworks you may benefit from the higher cores of 10th gen

[fierce pivot]

@snow compass 11900k is worse than the 10850k, but i would recommend ryzen 9 5950x instead

considering you have a budget of 5k

or 6k

[zinc arch]

if you can get one🙄

[fierce pivot]

they can afford a scalped one if needed at the price of a 6k budget lol

[zinc arch]

fair lol

[fierce pivot]

they only go for like 100-200 more

scalped

[snow compass]

Nice! I will dig further my peeps

Thank you all

[fierce pivot]

an air cooler would do but you will want a beefy one

i would just go arctic liquid ii 360 though

[snow compass]

With liquid cooling, how often do you need to drain/flush the system?

[zinc arch]

ideally with an aio you shouldn't have to from my understanding they'll last as is for years, but I'm not super well versed with liquid coolers

[fierce pivot]

the arctic liquid would not need that to be honesty

[zinc arch]

just stay far far away from enermax lol

[fierce pivot]

ehh enermax aios arent the worst tbh just not great

[zinc arch]

It was more in light with all the issues with buildup in their tr4 coolers

I don't know if the issue was present in any other of their coolers just remembered it being a big deal with threadripper

[fierce pivot]

ahh havent seen their tr coolers

[zinc arch]

https://youtu.be/rlTlCV1AgoA
GN did a big thing on it because it was a cooler they had actually strongly recommended to threadripper users before the issues came to light

[fierce pivot]

fair enough

[zinc arch]

That and personally I'd rather get an air cooler than an aio just because I'm weird about liquid in a pc which ik is stupid

but aio's are definetly a good choice for high end cooling

[vocal tree]

enermax slime

what is that a tmnt or power rangers villain

how many times will they return

[zinc arch]

lol

[vocal tree]

and will they be vanquished in the endd

[zinc arch]

It's a GN villain as you can tell by the amount of distress steve is in

That said Steve has had a lot of recurring nemeses recently

[vocal tree]

[vocal tree]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811112325

lol

[zinc arch]

makes me kinda think of a car turbo lol

[vocal tree]

a lot of older lian li cases were red it seems

[sand atlas]

Liqtech iii fixed the problems but their reputation is forever tainted

[marsh grove]

hey guys, i tried removing the tempered glass door so i could work on my computer better and it shatter... any1 know where i can order a replacement?

[opal night]

From your case manufacturer

They should have a customer service number.

[alpine fox]

Gotta be careful with glass. I have the tempered glass side panel for my case wrapped in fabric and put up high so it doesn't get broken while I'm finishing the build.

[vocal tree]

no

be dangerous with glass

throw glass at valuables

https://tenor.com/view/break-stone-glass-tela-quebrar-gif-14738243

[coral bear]

Drop glass panels on the ground from 5ft+, it'll be fine

I actually accidentally knocked one of my tempered glass panels on the ground from the top of my desk when I was doing my build. Came out perfectly fine

[zinc arch]

Throw pieces of spark plug ceramic at glass it'll be fine, it's just a little piece of ceramic

[vocal tree]

I'll still baby my panel

[tawny stirrup]

do you all think its worth it returning my 550W crosair cx psu for a 650W version or a 750W just in case i might be able to get a 3060ti or 3070

[vocal tree]

if you do buy one of those sure

[tawny stirrup]

cause the return date on my psu is in 3 days

[vocal tree]

hm

[tawny stirrup]

but idk how much work it will be, do i need it, or if its worth it

[opal night]

650 will do 3070 no problem

[tawny stirrup]

im looking at the 650W or 750W versions of this

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00ALK3KEM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s02?ie=UTF8&th=1

i have the 550W

[opal night]

650 would be fine for a 3070

[tawny stirrup]

yea alr, but i was thinking maybe i should go a bit over since im buying a new one anyhow

[opal night]

Not necessary but your choice

[tawny stirrup]

mhm yea

idk

how much work do you think it will be unplugging everything and replugging them

[opal night]

10 minutes

[tawny stirrup]

oh really?

ok

im thinking about the 750w cause it's semi modular

[opal night]

yeah, it's not that hard

[tawny stirrup]

but yk

it is 20 dollars more

[slate creek]

@scenic lance You mentioned there are better cases for the price range of an O11, could you list some that I should look into?

[scenic lance]

P500A

Vintage has it

[slate creek]

Also I’m currently using a thermaltake Core V31 and I’m hoping for something slightly smaller than that if that helps at all

Yeah I think the P500A would be a bit big for me

[scenic lance]

wot

you want an O11 thats bigger but if you buy a diff case you want something smaller?

[slate creek]

The O11 is wider but not taller

And not as long

I’m talking about the standard O11 mid tower, not the XL

[sand atlas]

P400A then 🙃

[tawny stirrup]

lol recommend p400a a lot, i have it and great out of the box, no need for extra fans a lot of room for cable management

btw guys, im gonna get this psu and return my old one, any issues?

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01MRW2K7E/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s02?ie=UTF8&th=1

[elfin trout]

cx neat

[tawny stirrup]

yep

good price as well

[sand atlas]

CX is decent, but avoid the green label one

The one you linked is gray label

[tawny stirrup]

dont think there is anything green on it wdym?

oh yea

btw, do you guys know any good power strips?

[slate creek]

I’m using a 12 outlet power strip by Belkin rn, give me a few I’ll find it

[sand atlas]

Pretty much anything with a decent surge rating