#cases-psu-and-cooling
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Front panel fans, to bring in air to cool down the components inside
ok
Also the Meshify C and P500a to add to options
Yes the parts matter way more than the case mostly
I have the Fractual Design Meshify C and it's decent for dust mangement
i mean does it matter what parts i use in the fan
i mean case
whyd i type fan
? You mean what fan you use?
Not really it will fit everything apart from an e-atx case i think
mk
I just found out the Corsair have diff model like Txm,Rm. etc
Which one you think it’s the best?
And why? Thanks for replying
Ping me
Look at the tier list in the pins, several Corsair units are top A tier goodies
isnt HXi the best corsair unit?
RMi/HXi/AXi
Well there's the ones that are A tier with switchable rails, including the AXi, RMi, HX, HXi, and Vengeance
I see RMx are good
Then there's the single rail A tiers including RMx, AX, RM, SF, TX-m
Or TMx
Long story short, a lot of models made it into the best of the best A tier
I have the RM650x myself
ive used RM and RMx both, RM750 on an RTX 3070 and RM850x on 3090, both holding up well
also used TX650M on a 3070
I don’t know why it’s expensive abit and why they have full modular and semi, what’s the diff and what it include?
Full modular means you plug in only the cables you need to the power supply and it comes with a bag of those cables. Semi modular means all but a few essential cables can be unplugged. Typically the fixed cables are like atx 24 pin and your cpu power I believe (not 100% certain on which cables are non-detachable on semi-modular since I've never owned one)
^theres no point paying extra for fully modular over semi as they are the same basically with just the 24pin atx and cpu power connected which you will need anyway
does anyone know if the coolermaster rebates are legit?
I was looking again and found a good case for $60 ish: https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterBox-Micro-ATX-Tempered/dp/B07H4V9T9R/ref=sr_1_8?crid=16FIU4M5U4JTG&dchild=1&keywords=cooler%2Bmaster&qid=1618784265&sprefix=cooler%2Caps%2C278&sr=8-8&th=1
Yeah they're legit but like any rebate it can take time to get it, sometimes months
cause if they are legit, I am willing to wait for my money to come back if it actually will... this could mean I could get a good case for much cheaper
They send you a prepaid debit card, you'll get it eventually just make sure to read everything carefully and give every bit of info they ask for so they don't have a reason to delay it.
do you have to spend the rebate money on a coolermaster product?
No, it's just a prepaid Visa you can use anywhere
ok
looking for some help trying to change tower size from full to mid but do not how to check the hard fit and transfer of components
Biggest issue will be the number of hard drives, that's typically the limiting factor. If you have an ATX motherboard, it will fit in the Mid Tower case.
Reason: Bad word usage
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using a h510 elite atm and the airflow is terrible wondering if anyone has this case and reccomends it
nope, h510 is nice to look at but the airflow is super bad
There's a cooler master cube something that looks similar and it has better airflow i believe but h510 💩 airflow
I bought the H510 Elite 2 weeks ago, I bought it for the looks
my Ryzen 5 3600 gets like up to 70 degrees after 2 hours val or minecraft
I have the stock cooler amd so no big suprise
H510 has terrible airflow and the elite is overpriced
@tawny trail I would say try something like a td500 mesh, lancool ii mesh, p400a, or p500a
Is the be quiet pure power 11 psu good? The 10 is a b tier on the list but the 11 isnt on there
is there a psu tier list w/ prices?
with prices......?
Prices change too often for that
it's just too hard to get current prices
ok
even with web crawlers
segotep
RGB doesn't matter you want your psu facing down 95% of the time
Does anyone know about this? The Pure power 11 is cheaper and and i want to upgrade
im talking about the case, not psu
Oh good
PP11 is B tier as well iirc. One of the best B tier units
Yeah, right next to pure power 10 on the tier list is 11 and it’s gold
Omg I'm blind i swear it wasn't on list 🤦🤦 thanks tho 🙏
How much you getting it for btw
In your defense the yellow is hard to read
Actually the pure power 11 is €105 and the pure power 10 is €97
105 dang
Is there anything better in that price point
I’d think you’d be able to get an A tier
Enermax revolution df is actually 112
Ik higher wattage psu's are in short supply because of mining and stuff but idk what wattage you need
I almost got a PP11 but got an AMP instead cause it was like $7 more only
No problem
It's like 125 including shipping hmm ntb the 850w is 150 including shipping but don't think it's worth tbh
Thanks for the sympathy lol
What’s you system specs
Rtx 3070 and a r5 3600
Need to upgrade psu as I'm running on a evga w1 atm, ik not great but it was a good few years ago so
how did you get the 3070? shuffle?
That's how I got mine
No i live in Ireland
oh do they have stock there?
No i just got lucky
Yeah just checked during class one day and it was there so lol
I mean
@fierce pivot for Europe, check bitfenix
Whisper m and the other one are both great and a tier
Those are usually good price, but revo d.f. also good
my old 550 watt psu burnt out yesterday because it was cheap but i have a spare 500 watt will i be able to use the 500 watt as a temporary substitute. any advice is appreciated
Depends on system components. What are they? CPU/GPu mainly
i have a amd radeon hd 7970 but don't know the cpu and don't know there power requirements
Kinda pushing it since the GPU required 250W
You could probably get away with it short term but long term look at getting a good 650W
This one is A tier and has a $30 rebate offer https://www.newegg.com/antec-high-current-gamer-gold-series-hcg650-gold-650w/p/N82E16817371108
ok thank you for your help. you were very helpful
whats the best aesthetic micro atx case?
what kinda aesthetic you looking for?
Best aesthetic case is the one you like, really. Just make sure that it doesn't have flaws you can't live with.
like tbh, i like the lancool 205m, meshify c mini, the black dlm 21, and the mg130-g
we can't really give you the "best" aesthetic case if we don't know what aesthetic you're aiming for
Some people might like the o11 mini as well
MB311L anyone
Yes mb311l
wait thats cool
but imma get this one case called
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darkflash*
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like the dlx 21 mesh
Rip maybe p400a doesn't have the box
But this is nice lol
guys i found a 850 w ppower supply with a 80+ gold rating for 136.99 on amazon
Anyone want a link
Enermax 850w is 120$ and it's an a tier, no idea what one you have
Tbh it really depends on the psu
Revolution d.f. 850w for 120$ is the best psu for the price
Literally, only thing above a revo d.f. is MAYBE AXi kinda thing
Corsair psus 💰
Waiting for mine to come to replace my evga w1 
@sand atlas TYVM, I went with the Seasonic FOCUS PX-850 I know thats like 100w more than you recomended, but with a price difference of only $20 I just couldn't tell myself no LoL
Will leave you plenty of room to upgrade in the future anyway
eh, good nuff
Do y'all recommend the Corsair 5000d case? Wanna upgrade from my old case
4000d airflow instead unless you actually need the 5000d case accommodates for
but both are good cases
the airflow one
is it normal for one cords of the 24pin cable not to be there?
yes
Airflow should be same price?
4000d airflow is about $80 ish unless youre in a different country
not really that pricey considering whats out here especially considering youre looking at the 5000d which is up there near $150ish
for me the 4000d is 120, which is really good, but I want the 5000d cause of the case additions but its 250
thats the reason why i want it 😩 😩 😩 😩
or might just go with a different one
Unless you're doing custom cooling or you have a massive gpu most people don't need the 5000d
Where are you looking that the 5000d is 230 wth
i live in canada
nvm
p500a
imma go with the 4000d
Okay
...?
huh
Then why you looking at 5000d
either way, p500a is great
https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_1937&item_id=169846
godam
im gonna buy the 4000d airflow
ok
ok i'm actually super interested in that now lol
Vintage has one
The Phanteks P500A PC case is a high-airflow focused enclosure that follows-up the P400A previously. We're benchmarking it versus the other best cases for airflow right now.
Get a high-quality GN Wireframe Mouse Mat: https://store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-wireframe-mouse-mat
Article: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3601-phanteks-p500a-...
GN does great pretty in-depth reviews if you have time
lol im watching it rn
I like my meshify c 😎
I don't like my focus g 😎
eh, close enough
fan noise..?
Yeah...
Phanteks should be pretty good
i'm just sitting here with my stock cooler
yeah i saw the review from GN, he looks pretty satisfied with it
It is a quite loud at max speed, but it's quite good with lower rpm, which still has great performance
My first build was in p400a and honestly it was a nightmare lol
But I mean first build what can you expect
¯_(ツ)_/¯
im gonna do my first build soon
its in a mb511
https://seasonic.com/prime-ultra-titanium
why was this discontinued?
oh, but the why was it under the discontinued tab on seasonic?
https://seasonic.com/consumer/discontinued-products?attr_80plus=15&series=97
IDK
o-oh ok dude. i was just wondering
I really don't know
Amazon still has a couple and B&H says more are on the way. Maybe Seasonic did an oopsie?
hope so. i really want that PSU
Is 1600w reasonable for a Gtx 1660, Ryzen 5 3600, B550 Aorus Elite Mobo ?
No
Lol
Reason: Overclocking R5-3600
650 should be good
Ah, I was wondering how far you could Push the oc on the R5-3600
The tdp is 65
So even on oc and spikes i dont think it will reach 120
Im using 10700k 3070 on a 750...
Oh no, Amazing the Core-i7-10700k is a killer cpu right there
And thanks Waddles, guess i'll go for a 750w i'll wait for when they release the Lunar Lake Cpu
👍
Just use precision boost overdrive
If he has the 3600 instead of the 3600x there is no PBO I think
No i use pbo on my 3600
Oh I thought that was the difference between the x and non x what is the difference then?😂
Slightly binned, released bout a year later
you are thinking XT
the 3600 and 3600X got released at the same time
power limits, binning and slight clock speed difference at forced stock speeds
the majority of those differences disappear if you let PBO do its thing :)
Indeed
yo what 850w psu should i get
Enermax Revolution DF 850
Revolution d.f. 850w for 120$ is an amazing deal
i heard the cords have problems tho
ya people who recommend it they say the cords are stiff and some other stuff they said there difficult to put in
That's a good thing
Better than having cords thar go boom
oh ok ill buy it rn
My Phanteks was the same way, once you get the wires formed it's nice
alr placed the order
Ye
Pilot e
Ohh rlly? Is it one of those 1-2 months shipping things on Amazon?
It's the back order thing, "ships in 1-2 months"
🤮
Not shipping taking a month, it's going to take a month before it ships
🙄
Really? Yesterday it was saying ships in 1-2 months
That's fine then
I can have one by friday
Ya still a good price imo
Ye
But I say p31 1tb time :D
I had to rma my psu, and they have 0 in stock.
@opal night much better rnd perf
Too lazy to look up testing again, look here
#storage-devices message
Get refund by different one or different seller?
Why sn550 faster than 750 in that chart ?
@fierce pivot sn550 kinda great that's why
$20 is $20, just get a Sabrent Rocket 4 then for $150
@opal night which is again slower than p31
In any rnd workload
Even 980 pro rocket 4 plus and sn850 are all slower
P31 meme nand op
Pog gonna get one soon but idk if i should get 1tb one or save the money and get a 500gb one as I've been using a 240gb ssd for like the past 6 or so years so don't exactly need a lot lol
Not on Crystal disk
Because cdm is synthetic, even if you use cdm, compare the random 4k read writes
I did
Wack
Too lazy to look at testing again, prob has to do with seek latency, but that's controller side, possibly just well constructed nand, leading to less ecc
Its corsair.
Corsair warranty RMA.
They said if they don't get 750 RMx in stock, they will send me either the 850W or the 1000w whichever comes first..
Ntb
PSU and RAM prices seem to be starting to go up
Yea
Ram especially
I saw the same ram I bought for about $100, it's now at 125.
Yea I got 32GB of 3600Mhz ram for $100 on black Friday and now its like over $200
same, some $50 generic 2x8 3200cl16 ram is now worth $80 smh, and it's gonna keep rising
is there any reason why I wouldn't out electrical tape on my ketchup and mustard cables?
no there's no reason why not
a reason why someone would do that is to make it look cleaner
I would just keep in mind that if for whatever reason you decide to remove the tape the adhesive residue from electrical tape is AWFUL
ok
good to know
but the ketchup and mustard cables also look awful
so I think that is balanced out
Yea its more just like its almost impossible to get the stickiness off after you put electrical tape on something without using goo gone or some sort of other solvent. But outside of that I don't particularly see any issues with it
ok
Would probably wait a little bit more before doing it though just to see if anyone more qualified sees a problem
ok
There's a possibility there's a heat dissipation issue but i doubt the wires will be too hot
Just found out the revolution df 850w just dropped down to €118 4 more than the 750w i ordered should i cancel(hasn't been dispatched yet)? Idk might be too much hassle
is the effieciency rating the same
Yes same psu but I've already ordered the other one it's just not shipped
Efficiency ratings are meh. The difference between gold and plat is about $5-$10 a year
Take you years to make that back with cost increase
Gold is pretty much just fine
i more just mean if hes going from like a 750 gold to a 850 80+
i was too lazy to google it
Its the same model just 100w more i just don't know if it will be hassle canceling it
how long ago did you place the order?
Are you planning on a 3080/3090
It's not shipped yet, was like Tuesday or Monday
No but it's 4€ more the price just got slashed
Then don't worry about lol
cause i mean and extra 4 euros now for that 100 watts could save you a psu upgrade later down the line, but 750 is usually just fine
750W more than enough
Yeah i don't think it's worth the bother
until you go super high end, it wont really end up being worth it
I wasn't even gonna put in 3070 wanted 2060/2070/3060/3060 ti but all i could find lol
Yeah thats what i thought but was like what if but you're probs right
i have a 200w bigger psu than i i need personally, but i only got it cause it was on a really good sale in the midst ofr 2020 shortages
700watts for a 580 and a 2200g lmao
Nice lol
speaking of that, racer if you see this, are you axperience with gpu teardowns and such?
Depends on the GPU
and just basic knowledge of pcbs in general
What's the question?
well you see i bought my gpu late 2020 right as gpu shortages started becoming a thing, so the only 580 i couyld get at a reasonable price was the msi aurmour
What's the issue with it?
thing is i know it has a very mediocre cooler
Is it overheating or causing issues?
so made a custon backplate out of aluminum sheet metal
it does get pretty toasty yeah
really the question is if its safe for thermal pads to be in contyact with resistors and solder points on the back
Oh yeah, they aren't electrically conductive
i didnt think so but i wanted to be sure
more just the concern of putting too much pressure on them than anything
People add them all the time to newer cards to decrease VRAM temps
VRAM gets hottest on the PCB side rather than the top side where thermal pads typically are
Just be sure that aluminum plate has some kind of film on it in the areas the thermal pads aren't so you don't short something out
okay so that was a smart move to do in that case
Most backplates are anodized or filmed to be non-conductive
i put a primer layer of automotive paint
Should work.
okay, thanks for the help
YW
does anyone have a suggestion on a good case that could fit a 3080? And cause the 3080 achieve good thermals?
which 3080
Asus TUF
do you plan on using an aio on the front?
nope, air cooling
Imo corsair 4/5000d airflow but the phanteks ones vintage said are good too
ight, so 4000/5000d or x, p400/500a, 275r af, meshify c or meshify 2 c, lancool II mesh, td500 mesh, p300/360a, etc.
yeah, the main one i was looking at was the 4000d
275r isn't that the meh Corsair case?
what type of aesthetic were you aiming for? and do what other case designs matter for you
I'm waiting for mine atm bit of a 4000d airflow simp
I only care about functions, but I'm looking for a black case, and maybe some hard drive slots
it's alr tbh, comes with 3 fans and isn't choked, sometimes goes on sale for $55 😎
that was my first idea when i though of cases
But 3080 doesn't belong in 55$ case smh
meshify c, meshify 2 c are nice
lol
is there any reason why I wouldn't install my psu in my case rn? my motherboard comes in a few weeks
and I have a itch to build rn
Might just make it slightly harder to route cables if they're modular? Ik some people prefer to go from component to psu instead of from psu to component
I just heard this and thought I should share
Segotep started selling a second version of the GP-G which is inferior, and no longer worth the asking price. Its protections aren't set properly (so it can't protect itself from overheating due to a lack of OTP and it won't shut down if you draw too much from it due to improperly set OCP.)
What this means practically is that the unit you're likely to get isn't the LLC resonant one, it's the DF one without OTP and with bad OCP. Contrast that to the CX550 which is $5 more, and you get a proper LLC resonant PSU with functional protections.
To quote them,
Segotep Power Supplies
A supplier of very budget power supplies have made their way into the western markets. Segotep offers a couple units such as the GP-G, GP-P, SG-G, etc. lineup of power supplies with some conflicting information between them and their product listings. The updated version of the unit SG-G only has CapXon capacitors on the primary side; however, there is a certification test multiple years apart that shows in all probability the double forward topology unit. In my advice, the older unit is no longer sold. I purchased a unit from Amazon and received the SG-700G from the 600W product listing with my tear down here: https://github.com/lQUBEXl/SegotepGP-SG-700G/blob/1f6b484df4be543c19b2c7bf3c41311438189c68/LICENSE.md/LICENSE.md
For very budget builds, I'm "okay" with putting this in a build; however, it's still on a platform (and then the capacitors are reduced in quality) that has OPP set above 150% of the unit rating and no OTP. If we're paying $400 for a GPU, please buy a unit with relevant protection features and third-party testing. I'd be glad to take a FE with a Leadex 3 instead of say a Apevia Prestige and some AIB.
wait when
I just got a segotep gp 650w gold
it says it has OTP OCP SCP OPP OVP protections on the box
@opal night @sand atlas ????
should I return it????
Those are good lol
ok thx
I mean, Qubex got the llc one so
wack
might need to go find and ask luke but
I believe the point is wack opp and no otp, but I don't think the old DF one is being sold anymore
At least, that's what Luke told me, that the ones being sold now are the llc ones
Idk, just thought I should share
yeye
qubex is the only english speaker I know that actually has a teardown of sg-g so
yea
And this is why I went with a Phanteks AMP. Not as cheap, but a very nice unit.
lel
wacky things
maybe I'll try to find qubex at some point
@quasi kraken do you know where the qubex can be located, or if they did any protection testing on the sg-g?
I might have gone a bit overkill by going with a 750w unit, but the PSU has a good warranty and might end up being something I reuse for a long time.
meh
I have a technically dangerous unit I'll likely use for another few years
PSUs seem to be the only thing that's standard
is putting it in a system with a 5600x and a 3060 But the price between it and the 650w was ten bucks so I figured going a little overkill now might save me some grief later.
revo d.f. 850w at 120$ be like
the lab
the lab?
I came across this while searching for info on resizable bar on Asus, what do you guys think of this? https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/Accessory/Power_Supply/Manual/RECOMMENDED_PSU_TABLE.pdf
Sus
Seems pretty reasonable to me at a glance
Hmm
I dont know if 850 is good for 3090 and 10900k
I think if you have the money for 3090 just spend some more on psu and get a 1000w
It’s just fine
No.
Maybe for stock you can be fine but if you oc 850w wont be good enough
Also it is better to run 70% of the psu and not push it to 90-100 all the time
Yes it will
Considering I literally run a 10900k at 5.5 and 3090 on a 850w...you tell me
How will it?
5.5?
Yes
on what cooling
A small loop
What is the cpu power draw? Around 300?
Lian Li Lancool ii mesh/perfomance
Is there really a noticeable difference between 80+ platinum and titanium? I'm concerned about power waste and was going to spend up for a plat, but decided to give titanium a looksee to see if its worth it too
Yeah unless you have really high power costs then bronze or gold will be more than enough
The cost isn't really the concern for me. Im more worried about the actual energy waste. I know my actions don't mean much in terms of the big picture but if I can be a little more efficient for a slight cost. I would prefer to do that
The difference is barely noticeable
ive had no issues with 3090 with 10900kf or 11900k on an 850w psu
That's what's recommended
Tbh it's hardly noticeable
Like an extra 2%
@hazy forge hell, if you give me the specific psu models, I can look up the efficiency curve for you
Generally it's within 1%-2% from gold to plat
But specific models deviate even more
Tbh there are even cases where plat PSUs may be less efficient in general than some gold models xD
Since the rating takes different measurements at different loads
@elfin trout I wasn't looking at any specific models. Was just oging to go with a reputable 550-600w
Now another question, Would you buy an EVGA b-stock PSU?
@hazy forge Well, b-stock is basically refurb, so that's that. Good PSU wise, maybe a Phanteks amp 650w for 100$
Ok so thats another option for me didn't even know the brand phanteks
I guess ive heard it around, but didn't recognize it
corsair 4000d airflow good right
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-GA-0650-X1 seems like a deec deal. Looks like they are discounding most of their stock
Introducing the EVGA SuperNOVA GA Series of power supplies - the newest addition to the outstanding line of EVGA Power Supplies. Featuring 80 Plus Gold certification, 100% Japanese capacitors, a durable double-ball bearing fan, and a fully modular design, this power supply is built for long-term usage and durability. Building upon EVGA's line of...
Ooo also comes with a free powerlink adapter that will go with the 2070 super i just got
First, don't judge off brand for PSUs, most PSUs on the market are just rebranded PSUs of one of the major OEMs
Like EVGA usually uses superflower or CWT, Phanteks amp is a Seasonic rebrand
Ohh. didn't know that. I thought most of the bigger names like EVGA, Seasonic, Corsair all were big enough to build their own
guess my assumption was incorrect
Second, GA is just decent, tier list is useful
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/
PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 14.7 Last Update: 28-03-2021 Legend : Gray - EoL/obsolete and/or generally not recommended for purchase. Green - small form-factor (gold and blue colors are disregarded due to scarcity of SFX PSUs) Gold - best units in the tier (includes requirements for blue color in tier ...
Seasonic is a PSU OEM, they make most of their own, Corsair mainly uses CWT and Seasonic, a bit of everything
Tho Corsair does work with PSU OEMs to get custom platforms
So it's theirs... Somewhat
(for example, RMx and RM are modified CWT GPU, HXi and AXi are completely custom afaik)
Hmm ok gotta look around more then. So my system with a 3600 and a 2070 supa would be rated as a mid-high right?
I have a mindset of go with the best you can get for your money
So..
So go for S-Tier 😄
3600 and 2070 will run off any half decent 550/650, but might as well go a bit further
Should I be caring about multi vs single rail. Not too sure the difference
Basically, doesn't matter until 850w+ where it makes a slight difference really
ok cool. Really looking at that Phanteks AMP 750W now for $110
I bought a 750w Phanteks AMP. Surprisingly heavy.
Thats my computer stand's problem 😛
lol
But yeah based on that tier chart and the pricing it seems like a no-brainer
Other than revo d.f. 850w for 10$ more in higher end builds ;D
Does the SG13 come with standoffs or are the heightened screws inbuilt standoffs?
is it normal for one of the wires to be missing on a 24pin connector?
yes
ik this is probably a stupid question but if i cut off extra cables from a non modular psu that i dont need and then tape the ends with electrical tape or somethin would it like work out? asking bc i have no other options to reduce inner volume of this PC build to allow some more airflow bc its a velka 3 and the psu is hella expensive and only comes non modular unless i pay like $200 for a custom one
That just sounds like a bad idea
That screams fire hazard to me
thats what i thought alrighty then
No just dont, also what psu is 200$ and not Modular tf?
Surely sff of all things would be modular lol
Really dangerous I found this out with something else I was wiring but I wrapped off the leads I wasn't using but accidentally let them touch eachother and shorted the whole cable. Luckily no fire but I would no reccomend that in the slightest especially for something as expensive as a pc
Is BFG Tech a good brand for power supplies?
Never heard of them, where did you find it?
I got a free one for a few hours of work. It works as in the fans spin after plugging a paper clip into pin 4. Its a 650 watt and I am getting mixed reviews whether it is a good brand or a bad brand
Well, we don't have any useful info on it, so it's just another suspicious company to us
Unless there's any way to tell what platform it's on
https://www.newegg.com/bfg-tech-bfgr650psu-650w/p/N82E16817702003# <thats the one i got
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/bfg-tech-psu.289218/ <this is what Tom's hardware said. Yeah its old...
are they any good? i know that as a company, most of their stuff is pretty top quality, but i dont know much about their PSUs.
Well, that's a decade and a half old thread
I would not trust that thing.
Not a single power supply from that long ago still gonna be alive today
Lmao don't cut off psu cables
I guess you could use those plastic wire caps but no don't
Well, it's actually 15+ years old
The only review I found on it is from 2006
http://www.gideontech.com/content/articles/324/1
Simply because of the age, I wouldn't put much faith in it
Fair enough, thank you!
(I used this https://www.techpowerup.com/reviewdb/ )
Is a Evga 850w 80+ Platinum reasonable ? (Currently Evga 750w 80+ Bronze, Both Fully Modular)
I've heard, it's overkill and no need to go such lengths but it's Peak Efficiency that matters
What specs does the rest of the system have and what models are they, that's what really matters
Ah so it's Ryzen 5 3600 and Evga Gtx 1660
But planning on upgrading to Ryzen 7 5800x and Rtx 3080
Ahh
750w is g for a 3080 iirc
But what model of psu
Like supernova? Bq? Ba? W1?
Evga 750w 80+ Bronze B5
That's a b tier psu so pretty decent, what psu model where you looking at?
I was thinking of upgrading to a Evga 850w 80+ Platinum P2
Not sure if it's similar to the B5
But it's Fully Modular
That would be an upgrade but what price is it?
Also platinum is hardly an upgrade over gold unless you're in an area with really really high electricity costs
Got the 750w for $80 and the 850w is going for $240 on Amazon
Thats a 1000w price
Oh my, welp....inflation
I think there are good ones for around 150
California is a bit pricey with renting and living
Get an enermax revolution df 850w instead its gold but it's half the price, you wont make the price up between even in 10 years in California
Haven't heard of them, i'll go check it out and wait wdym "wont make the price up" ?
As in after 10 years of running you wont save money on electricity to make back the price difference
Ah gotcha....welp darn, guess California is pricey and becoming pricey
Yeah so a gold one will do just fine
@half gulch efficiency curves are wacky, and they don't scale up well from gold to plat on PSUs, it'll be maybe 2% difference max at peak efficiency
Anyone know much about old psu's? lol
Know anything about a Thermaltake TR2 500W? just pulled one out of a pc and was wondering if it was worth gicing to a friend. It's non modular with ketchup and mustard cables but if its not a bomb its not a bomb
eh seems like an ok psu
@zinc arch Gold or bronze
Currently trying to figure that out I don't actually see an 80+ label lol
does it look like this
Looking at the model on thermaltake's site it looks like there isn't even an 80+ certification at all. It's gonna be hilarious if I find out this thing is a complete bomb and it's made it 6 years somehow
even bombs can be lucky
It's looking like this one, decade old, no listing on the PSU tier list
(Image pulled from a review from 2011)
That's fair, that entire build was a disaster but is what happens when 14 year old me had zero direction on how to spec a pc build. Although it did work well for quite a while
quality doesn't seem too bad, japanese primary caps, rubycon secondary caps it seems
oh wait
rubycon primary, teapo secondary
ripple looks fine
but this review also doesn't really go in depth
Introduction So we’re back doing PSU reviews. I couldn’t leave it for more than a week before I had another play with our shiny new oscilloscope could I? Today it’s the turn of the Thermaltake TR2 700w, a non modular, single 12v rail unit. The TR2 range is a mainstream lineup of PSUs, with the …
When did the 80 plus thing kick off?
2004 it seems
Lol I love this marketing bit thermaltake had "Cable Management Optimized - Cooler-Running Computer Guaranteed!" by saying it was a good thing they made their non modular ketchup and mustard psu cables even longer
lol
nobody said thermaltake was known for good choices
What are my options for making my power cables more manageable? Right know i have sleaved cables but they have electrical tape or something simular at the end by the connector making them stiff. Trying to bend them to go into the cable management area but they stick out bit due to stiffness not letting me bend them directly to the cut outs.
Try zip tie them to something
😂 The psu has a connector that's 2 molex headers to 1 6pin pcie
rubber bands
TR2 bronze is (or was) C tier on the tier list
Not so bad
@chrome iris Yes, but the one in question doesn't seem to have any 80+ certification
@chrome iris this is what tr2 bronze looks like, their picture doesn't look like it
Oh yeah I was just referring to the picture @elfin trout
Didnt see his. The one he has is E tier yeah?
Oh wow it’s not there anymore, I distinctly remember it being E tier
are older versions of the tier list public still>
Honestly i have gotten to a point where I really dont care abt the list unless doing something expensive
I just hook it up to a PSU tester and if it good it good
famous last words
Haa.
:)
I will avoid absolutely terrible reputation units
But if its grey with a rainbow of cables
Doesn’t matter to me
Just bought a lot of old FSP PSUs as untested
So far all work beacause FSP> anything else
tech yes city discord server be like
i love bryan a lot too
🥵
I could only DREAM i had a lez
i wish i had someone like lez to hook me up with parts and machines
FSP is nice
Tech yes discord hated me tho so I just left
my computer was powered by a cheap 280w fsp unit and the unit died
computer just fine
im more of an HEC fan 
HEC?
HEC
Uuuh
i suppose EVGA B stock is where its at rn tho
did it work out? some people get really unlucky with it
Well, It was a while ago, and not for a PSU
It was some old graphics card
Worked fine
Dawid’s sense of humor IDK kinda annoying and Oz is a little too creative with the music sometimes but love both of em
I mean it’s mostly good
dawid used to be funny but i feel like he's forcing the jokes more and more
randomgaminginhd
yes
and budget builds
IDK dawid's humor is annoying, he bashes economy things even though they defiantly have their place
I feel like I don't mind Dawid in small doses but I couldn't watch a bunch of his videos back to back
oh yea
Is a lian li 205m a good matx case?
Meh, airflow looks sad
@tender rapids mesh and airflow I assume
Both are good, do lancool if you have a more RGB focused build. 4000 is really cool but not as RGB focused
4000 has those yellow accents
Looks nice- but a little out of place with obnoxious gamer parts and stuff
275r (non airflow) or 205?
I'm looking at a be quiet straight power 11 as the new power supply for my system, since it's the cheapest 850W, A tier, multi rail unit right now.
I've got a couple of concerns about it, though. The OCP seems to be set excessively high (170%?), which kinda defeats the purpose of a multi rail unit. The ripple also looks pretty bad for its class.
I should probably just wait for the RM850x to be in stock again, shouldn't I?
They're around the 60 70$ price iirc get a meshify c or a p400a at that price
Enermax revolution df 850w is samish price as bq
What psu should I get for a 3080 and r7 3700x
750w @toxic pilot should be good
amp 750w or revo d.f. 850w
I found this Still sealed Lian Li case on eBay For $20 cheaper than Newegg.
I am not advertising btw I just saw it and thought I would let you know.
Just type in Lian Li lancool ii mesh its the one for $90
What are the sticky things that come with the SG13
Sticky things, like feet for the underside or sticky like plastic pieces for cable management?
850w gold+
Enermax REvolution DF 850W
Ya, got it
It really depends on the unit tbh you can have terrible 850w golds with no protections, terrible capacitors etc
corsair rm850x 850w Gold should be good
Yeah it's a decent psu just overpriced just saying that all 850w golds aren't made equal
@desert forum I say revolution d.f.
You can also buy for a similar price Seasonic FOCUS PX-850
Well a rmx 850w is 210$ atm whereas enermax revolution df is almost half the price still an a tier pus and iirc multi rail
meshify is $98 and p400a is $90
Revolution D.F. 850W is also a good power supply for the price
Ohh woops
P360a or p300a
Revo df is single rail
?
Hmm I guess I missed that, thought it was just the maxrevo
I'm going RM850x anyway, I need best in class everything for a 3090
$140
That's not much more than the Revo
On pcpp it says 210 lol
I've found pcpp's ability to find pricing correctly not be awful lately. Like even things in stock just say "no pricing available" sometimes until you force it to a merchant.
Weird
Maybe that's just for me though idk🤷♂️ I got my build together so it doesn't make a huge difference I've just noticed it trying to look at stuff for other people
That's amazon third party
It's in stock on corsair website, pcpp needs to update that
Ahh
I thought was just overpriced cuz mining or something
Although i thought that was only on 1000w+
Nope, $145 plus a coupon for $5 I can't find again (sorry)
It's mostly the 1000+ units that are up yeah
Ahh ntb then
I got my new psu but ordered it from Germany, forgot that mainland Europe doesn't use the same power plug, should i just return it?
Or should i buy a new lead if it's cheaper?
Im not sure never used those before im just buying psus from my country but it should work fine i think
Yeah but just seems wrong to use an adaptor with a revolution df
Wait is it a different plug on the unit itself? I thought it was just a different cable between the wall and the unit for different countries
Yeah that's what i mean
Didn't really come across my mind when ordering
I think a new cable should be fine? To the best of my understanding the cables between the wall and the psu should all be about the same. But maybe someone else has better insight on that
I thought there was something with quality of cables, like my old psu is an evga 600w w1 and feel like i could use that but donating to brothers pc so he wouldn't be able to plug it in if i stole the lead from my old one also i though there was something about the thickness etc
I guess I've never had a cable like that, that didn't feel really bulky or thick so maybe it's just I haven't seen a cheap one🤷♂️
Well the one the gave was not really that thick in the first place but idk
Is this right to have the 24 pin split on top and bottom?
Yeah okay thanks was just a bit confused why it was on top and below
First time having modular psu and also thought they were usually beside each other
Revo 850W?
750w but yes
yeah that's normal
Okay thanks
Does it matter which cpu one i use btw?
I don't think there should be but just incase
Nope, any of them are fine
And im guessing the bits with labels go in the psu end? Because i don't see any markings on the other end of the 24 pin?
Thanks btw vintage
Ohh nvm there was no markings and it has a clip that only lets it go one way
Yeah thanks just because the 24 pin had no markings i thought mb it was to go into psu but guess not
Last question i hope, any idea what this if for?
Okay thanks
Would it also be okay to use the daisy chain for my gpu? Ik its supposed to slightly increase performance sometimes but doubt its needed for a 3070
It's not, two separate cables
Alright then, thanks
Is a lian li 205m a good matx case?
I’m sry 😖
For $60 the 205M is a great mATX case
Would someone be able to help me find a suitable kettle lead for my psu as i imported from germany (if possible from amazon uk) i was told 16 awg but that's not a popular standard over here, is 13a okay instead?
Yeah, you're 220VAC over there
850W is only about 4 amps
Ohh so i shouldn't worry that much then 👌
https://prnt.sc/129e6as is the estimated wattage wrong here?
I have been told that I should get at least 1000W.
I planned to get an 850
Thanks
Estimated wattage is always low
850w fine
Love you
It will get peeks more than the calculated probs but yeah 850w is fine
Thanks again.
I wouldn't bother with a 980 ssd tho btw
Well, calcs go off TDP
Kinda overpriced
TDP always low
I am already on a tight budget, I don't want to spend extra.
Drop the 980 to a pilot e instead
Save $100 and get a Mushkin Pilot E for $109
That can be done.
That'll save you about 80$
I suppose it's reliable and won't break in 2 years 😄
It's v nice ssd
Nah, don't need to
Then I don't want to*, since I am not in the position to just spend 😛 Thanks again
I am eating words.
No Mushkin for me. For some reason in my country they are about 50 bucks more expensive than the Samsung SSD.
SN750
Random question anybody know anything about a 5 pin PCIe plug? lol
This old psu had a connector that was 2 molex in and was a pcie 6 pin out but one of the pins on the 6 pin is missing
uhhhhh
*left out not missing like broken
I'd avoid molex adapters
I was just curious if anything knew anything about what it would be used for if its not a full 6pins on pcie
I have no intention of using it, I was just curious
Probs missing a ground or power wire
ah ok
is the phanteks eclipse p360a better than the 4000d airflow?
No
Ye
I am making a pc for my friend that will have an i7 11700(because of availability and the iGpu) now and a 3060 when available, and I wanted to know what psu I should get for it, he won't do any overclocking
(why not 11500 if just for iGPU?)
11700 power draw figure is annoying to find, only 11700k is readily avaliable
well with an 11500, what wattage power supply would you reccomend
would a 600 watt be sufficient, because I have an old one collecting dust
different bios has different power draw
What exact model?
The issue with an old model isn't the wattage, it's the quality and the not-blowing-up ability
it is not that and it was 80+ gold so, it would be perfectly reliable
uhhhh
80+ gold means nothing
p-gm is 80+ gold and literally blew up in testing
lotta things that go into a PSU, if you can give me a model, I can check it for ya
or try to find it on here if it's on here
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/
PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 14.7 Last Update: 28-03-2021 Legend : Gray - EoL/obsolete and/or generally not recommended for purchase. Green - small form-factor (gold and blue colors are disregarded due to scarcity of SFX PSUs) Gold - best units in the tier (includes requirements for blue color in tier ...
oh, ok then, I don't know the exact psu model because it was from a pre-built so I think I will just get a new 650 watt to be safe
Phanteks amp 650w is a nice unit
Corsair CX or CX-f is good (NOT CX-m), Seasonic Focus plus GM is nice, core GM is good
those are usually 80-100$
thanks
I want to get cable extensions and suggestions I want rgb
Lian Li Strimer
Anything else for cheaper
Anything else
Nothing that isn't total trash afaik
I dont think it matters
Wait how many will I need
Depends on how many GPU cables you have
I want cpu gpu and and 24
then buy one of each...
How many comes in the gpu
1
What connectors does your GPU have
I would wait to buy the GPU to get the GPU extensions then
Ok thx
strimer plus has a better controller I believe, and brighter colors
you want a 24-pin for mobo, and if a 3090 a triple-8-pin for the gpu.
the controller only has two ports, one for gpu and one for mobo. You typically dont put strimers to the cpu
Some of the 3090s only use dual 8pin
yes but you can get the triple-8-pin cable and pull out 8 of the pins
thats how I did mine
it takes a little fiddling but it looks like one solid cable
You only really need a dual 8 pin, each one can handle over 200W+ easy plus the 75W from the slot. TDP is 350 on most cards.
Depends on how the power is distributed on the PCB tho too
Some of them aren't all tied together IIRC
I'm genuinely curious about the pinout on that at least now. I know a lot of the 8 pin is just ground.
There are still 3 voltage shunts present
Hi res board shot, you can see the back of the connector and what's hooked together https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-founders-edition/images/front_full.jpg
6 connectors total out of the 12 pin
SO it could still be feeding the VRM's individually
Hey, I'm trying to make an external power button for my pc or aka a custom power switch. I'm not sure how to do it. My pc is a dell precision tower 5810. Yes ik it's a prebuilt and I am not personally affected by this
You could probably just buy a power switch and from there do whatever you want with it
Electop 2 Pack 2 Pin SW PC Power Cable on/Off Push Button ATX Computer Switch Wire 45cm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LMZZFWO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_27MPHVPA3RGW0JV1JPHA?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@unkempt abyss
Yes but I'm struggling to find where I can plug it in. Is there a manual or something I can lookup?
^
There's the header that the default power button attached to, just 2 pins that send a short signal to power on. A simple button with 2 wires will work.
I'd like to later on get some cable extensions for my build. But just some colored ones. Even I think the RGB PSU cable extensions are silly.
There's cablemod, I believe they're one of the more if not most expensive options but they're also very premium. I'm not sure if I can remember the name of any of the other companies off the top of my head
Would someone be able to pinpoint which of these I should connect to to start my computer via an external power button
2 pins on the front panel header labeled pwr
So this area?
On the motherboard. 23
Ok thanks
Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Smart Case - Black (CC-9011173-WW) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RW8GLQJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_CEB4315MG3H3HYHQ1440
Looking for a vertical gpu mount to go with this case
Looks like the exact opposite of the o11’s IO
https://www.amazon.com/FSP-1200W-Liquid-Cooled-Certified-HPTM/dp/B079H1HYXQ @dusk pasture look at this horror
what the f
Overclock peak power output from 1200W to 1400W with liquid cooling enabled
Hybrid Cooling System with 135mm silent fan & Liquid Cooling
Built-in RGB lighting in water block with Controller
Complies with ATX12V v2. 4 & EPS12V v2. 92 | Active PFC ≥ 0. 9
Global safety Approved | Complete protections: OCP, OVP, SCP, OPP, OTP ```
literally overclock your psu
WTF
they even have a video for it
I mean at this point it's probably gonna act like a radiator for your system, even as a 1200w psu
considering it has a fan
lol
@distant torrent what CPU + GPU are you planning to use with it
159300h with a gtx 1650
a what now
Intel core i5-9300h
thats a laptop CPU
you dont need to buy a power supply for a laptop unless you lost your charging brick
OK
what 650 watt psu do you think is most likely to explode
p-gm

