#cases-psu-and-cooling

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west kite
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How much lower to adjust

opal night
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IDK, play around with it a bit and see if it affects temps. I think it won't but you never know.

scenic lance
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Revolution D.F

drifting sonnet
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anyone got some recommendations for a good 600-ish watt PSU?

opal night
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Segotep SGG or GPG

fallow cairn
elfin trout
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@fallow cairn it's llc dc-dc smh

fallow cairn
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na bro I want my group regulation and DF feelsBIRTHDAYman

elfin trout
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It has double in the name so it's double as good

fallow cairn
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this guy gets it

drifting sonnet
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hmmm, big brain

shell locust
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Best Buy

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thank you ^^

spare magnet
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Hmm

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Looks like I’ll be needing another psu

crude fractal
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Any suggestions for sleeved PSU cables?

honest spindle
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Any suggestions for cool looking pc cases that are small but would still fit atx components?

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Not especially worried about airflow

tender root
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if you mean ATX mainboard, then there is a fair limit on the size of things

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if you mean, atx PSU but a matx/itx mainboard, there are a bunch of interesting (and quite varied) sizes available

honest spindle
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more of if I wanted a new case, I wouldn't want a new psu, but I could prolly swap the mobo

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so psu size is more important, but if it looked coll style wise and could fit an atx mobo that would be cool

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I'm looking for style looks more than anything else

elfin trout
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Looks are very subjective so any more pointers ...?

honest spindle
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not a box

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or at least not just a box

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not really sure, but something that stands out on a desk sort of thing

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I know it's not much description........

elfin trout
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P360a looks decent

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mb311/mb511 maybe

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500dx might be interesting

honest spindle
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ok thanks

lethal ridge
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mb311l has some clearance issues and other fan related stuff

signal birch
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any good cases under 50?

vocal tree
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Not really but there are cases under 50 that are

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Well

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Cases

fierce pivot
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Cougar i think do a case around there that's ntb

alpine fox
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I have a nice Phanteks case I'm going to use. (Well, nice looks-wise. Still going to have to figure out how I'm setting up the fans I bought.)

quick dirge
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I had a 600w thermaltake smart and that actually burnt up, back positive and ground got fried along with the positive female end of the power cord.

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I have a pic actually

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Gotta find it first

open adder
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Need a pretty cheap psu for my 2nd build . 500-600w should be good . Any suggestions?

sand atlas
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What's going to be in the build, CPU and GPU specifically?

open adder
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2600x + 2 x 1060 6gb

sand atlas
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$52

open adder
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It will be 70 for me is it worth it?

quick dirge
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Eh I can’t find it but I still have the PSU

open adder
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Because of shipping and taxes

sand atlas
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What site is best for shipping for you? Newegg, Amazon, Best Buy?

quick dirge
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But yeah the TT smart 80+ should probably be moved to E-tier, I’ve seen at least another instance where someone’s also had their PSU fry and one where it caught fire.

open adder
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Newegg or amazon

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But i will always need to pay extra for shipping so its fine

quick dirge
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But yeah sorry for the super late reply, this just caught my eye, coming from personal experience with that same/similar PSU I would definitely get a different one, if you don’t want to run the risk of frying or worse starting a fire.

open adder
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@sand atlas found this at a local store ANTEC PSU 600W VP600P Plus is that a ok one? Or not

sand atlas
sand atlas
open adder
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Ok

open adder
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Should i get the other one for a bit more?

sand atlas
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No hang on, I'll find a good one for under $60 with shipping at least tier B

open adder
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👍

sand atlas
fallow cairn
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just buy Segotep

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BQ is literally terrible

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it should have been tier D or something

sand atlas
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At least it has OCP, unlike most D tier

fallow cairn
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?

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I don't' think it has OCP

open adder
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I dont mind paying 10$ more for it if it is much better

fallow cairn
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on 12v

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and neither does it have correctly set OPP

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no OTP either

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and it runs really really hot

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The 500 BQ switches off quickly on the minor rails, but has not implemented an OCP on the 12-volt rail. As in the case of the 500 BQ, it only becomes problematic if the overload protection (OPP) is not configured correctly.

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ye it has no OCP and incorrectly set OPP

open adder
fallow cairn
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In the 500 BQ there is no protective circuit against overheating, which is why in the event of a possible failure or blockage of the fan, one must hope that another fuse will trigger.

open adder
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👍

agile dirge
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guys i need an expert help , ive got one of these Azza 802f cube cases , and ive lost the RGB remote controller of it , what shold i do

sand atlas
agile dirge
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i did contact them , they said it is not a problem and its cheap but there is an alternative , they said if i my mainboard has a 3pin 5volt rgb header , i can straight connect to that and controll the fans off my mainboard

sand atlas
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What motherboard do you have then?

agile dirge
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i am using a MSI X470 gaming plus

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for ryzen

sand atlas
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You have the same board as me. We don't have the correct RGB header for this kind of lighting.

agile dirge
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how unfortunate

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oh wow its exactly that remote

sand atlas
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See? Common

agile dirge
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in the link , well it work with m hub too or do i have to replace that as well , meaning can i buy that seprately or must i get the whole thing

sand atlas
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I picked that one out because it was the exact same remote, it should just work without replacing everything.

agile dirge
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ok , my question was odd , so everything is in that purchase or is it only the remote controller

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?

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got it

sand atlas
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"Package includes:

1x Molex D-type 4pin power cable
1x Motherboard sync cable
1x 21 Keys RF remote controller
1x Multifunctional hub box"

agile dirge
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yes thank you sir , just saw it

sand atlas
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It's the whole kit just in case it doesn't work for whatever reason

agile dirge
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well thanks , unfortunate that they support only paypal , thats just hdus

sand atlas
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If you want I can dig up another site or another model with the same remote

agile dirge
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thatsd be great , 2 searching is always better than one , i live in europ just for info

sand atlas
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What part of Europe? Some sites don't ship to some countries

agile dirge
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austria

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looks the same to me but i dont know tecnically

sand atlas
agile dirge
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thank you very much my friend

minor portalBOT
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sarthak#2901 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

scenic lance
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What case would be best for cats with airflow?

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Im wanting to make a new pc but o got 3 vats

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Cats

elfin trout
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Well, what's the budget and what do you want to put in it?

languid sphinx
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Any suggestions for psus would also be cool

fierce pivot
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Only for asthetic purposes, also you can get way better performance out of that budget

languid sphinx
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How would you change it?

fierce pivot
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If you're just gaming a 5600x and b550 motherboard

elfin trout
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change ram change mobo change cooler

languid sphinx
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I mean ive already bought just about everything so there no going back but just curios

elfin trout
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10700k is okay, but 5600x can outperform

fierce pivot
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And rqm and cooler

elfin trout
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it's a lot of extra premium paid for looks

languid sphinx
fierce pivot
languid sphinx
elfin trout
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uh

elfin trout
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I have testing to back the statement up

fierce pivot
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In gaming

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Not multi core

elfin trout
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Practically every game other than rdr2, 5600x outperforms 10700k in the games tested
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▶ Play video
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It's not just GN too, I can find other benchmarks/reviewers

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lemme go for anandtech

languid sphinx
fierce pivot
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Hw unboxed similar results too i believe

languid sphinx
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Idrc tho

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Ill mainly be using it for gaming and editing btw

fierce pivot
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Well you spent a metric crap tun too much on mobo, in general mobo should be half cpu price, but should never exceed it

elfin trout
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there's the unreasonably low res for showing scaling for example

languid sphinx
elfin trout
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but much more reasonable in normal res for example

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anyways

languid sphinx
fierce pivot
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And then they come with Bluetooth too

languid sphinx
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ik

fierce pivot
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Also why you won't even see the motherboard

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You'll only see bottom mb but cooler and gpu will block most

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Ohh wait you have aio nvm

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But check pins for the psu tier list btw

languid sphinx
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I mean I know I spent a lot on asthetics, but in my opinion, it was worth it for me to spend the extra 200 dollars (out of all the parts) on that

fierce pivot
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Well the ek aio is better and rgb as well so

elfin trout
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least it's not bad, as long as you know you spent extra

fierce pivot
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And 120

elfin trout
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you just need to know that you did spend extra for it

fierce pivot
elfin trout
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as long as you accept that, fair.

languid sphinx
fierce pivot
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But anything in the A tier of psus in the pins should be g

languid sphinx
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What is your opinion on the 750RM vs RMx?

fierce pivot
elfin trout
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RMx is just flat out better

fierce pivot
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^

elfin trout
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though by a bit

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better caps

languid sphinx
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wdym

fierce pivot
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Capacitors

languid sphinx
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oh ok

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I think its like 10 dollars more on newegg comparing the two so I assume its probably worth that

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Its actually 20 dollars more rn lol

elfin trout
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RMx has nice jap caps, RM has wacky chinese caps, and that's not a joke or exaggeration

languid sphinx
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Ok, would you recommend any other psus?

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(750-850 watt)

elfin trout
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anything in Tier A of the LTT PSU list, some examples would be like Revolution D.F., Phanteks amp, Seasonic Focus plus GX/GM

languid sphinx
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Yea, I've been looking at that list and I find it really hard to understand

languid sphinx
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I mean I probably saved close to 250 dollars just from deals I was waiting out for

elfin trout
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unless you got really good deals

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oh well

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doesn't really matter at this point, just the point that aesthetics are expensive

fierce pivot
elfin trout
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there's like 50, I just choose some I liked

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revo d.f. and phanteks amp generally best in terms of price for 750w/850w

fierce pivot
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True

elfin trout
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Seasonic for brand name if you scared of enermax and phanteks

fierce pivot
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Yeah not many ppl heard of enermax

elfin trout
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before I learned what was actually in the PSU I really looked down on enermax

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because the liqtech I and II gunk thing

languid sphinx
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I think im just gonna go with the RMx 750

fierce pivot
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That should do you fine

elfin trout
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Well, just a side note, revo d.f. is on the same platform as rmx lel

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cwt gpu

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Corsair just modified it a bit

languid sphinx
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any aios yall would recommend? I forgot to mention I haven't gotten that yet

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Im pretty confident in the one I had on there just bc of icue but idk

elfin trout
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Freezer ii, EK-AIO, or Lian Li Galahad

opal night
elfin trout
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Your choice out of the 3, those are the top performing aios atm (from GN testing)

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it's like the holy trinity imo xD

opal night
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yeah the Galahad is more expensive tho

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But looks better than the EK

elfin trout
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ya

languid sphinx
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So Im basically gonna be paying 40 dollars for the fans to match and the software

elfin trout
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uh

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rgb software wack

languid sphinx
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Icue is actually really nice imo

elfin trout
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I'm the person to use freezer ii

elfin trout
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or leave rgb stock

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but eh

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corsair corsair once you're in the ecosystem you kinda need it for rgb

languid sphinx
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yep

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Does the Galahad have as many rgb wires that are required for the corsair? I thought that was just a corsair thing but im not sure

elfin trout
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@languid sphinx It has a splitter for the fans, so one cable terminating, but it gives you the option to plug into a controller powered by sata power if you want to

languid sphinx
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Best buy doesn't have any of the three you suggested me(I have a gift card) so I think im going to have to go with the corsair anyway

elfin trout
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aw sad

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Corsair isn't horrible, just very mediocre

languid sphinx
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thanks for the help tho

elfin trout
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:)

languid sphinx
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Are these any good compared to the cable mod ones? I cant find the cablemod ones anywhere in stock. I think im going to go with the regular cables bc I have a gift card for that as well that would cover the difference https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16812304076

fierce pivot
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Well the psu comes with its own cables btw you don't need to buy em

languid sphinx
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I know lol

fierce pivot
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That's what it sounds like you're saying anyway

languid sphinx
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Im not that stupid

elfin trout
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Those are still very expensive

fierce pivot
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It was just worded that way lol

languid sphinx
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yea sorry

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Or would you still recommend extensions vs these

fierce pivot
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Nb lol just making sure lol

fierce pivot
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Tbh the black cables still look grand

languid sphinx
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versus RMx

languid sphinx
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oh

elfin trout
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This is RMi/RMx/RM

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actually

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pinout should be the same

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it's both CWT GPU, should be same connectors

fallow cairn
languid sphinx
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It says " AXi / HXi / RM"

elfin trout
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cablemod is just wack

languid sphinx
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I thought you were talking about the ones from the cablemod store

elfin trout
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@fallow cairn pinout for rmx and rm should be the same, right?

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it's the same damn platform, plus some meme caps for rm

languid sphinx
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It just doesn't let me send the exact link you sent me

elfin trout
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oh wait, RM yellow label

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I don't like cablemod

fierce pivot
languid sphinx
elfin trout
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@fallow cairn just realized RM orange label, the one the kit is for, is not CWT GPU, it's some other mods

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modded CSG and CSH it seems?

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but sad

elfin trout
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the heck is that chart

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am confuze

fallow cairn
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Corsair's PSU compatibility chart

elfin trout
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corsair needs better documentation

languid sphinx
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So RM from 2019 should be compatible with the RMx version

elfin trout
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I've yet to find a CX 450 manual, what, one year into looking for one

fallow cairn
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Bitfenix sells 16AWG cable replacement kits called Alchemy 2.0 that are compatible with both Corsair Type 4

elfin trout
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@languid sphinx Yes, but the one on cablemod is RM Orange Label, which is different, just note

fallow cairn
fallow cairn
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lol yes

languid sphinx
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I think im just going to do that. Sorry I didn't realize those came with white cables

fallow cairn
# languid sphinx What is your opinion on the 750RM vs RMx?

Also late response but RM gets rid of the in-cable caps, uses a llc resonant controller with burst mode for higher efficiency and switching from burst to normal can cause a whine-like sound around, worse ripple, caps are now elite/teapo (?)/su'scon and it's noisier

languid sphinx
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Yea, its actually 20 dollars less rn to get the RMx version(not sure what the person who put that listing up is smoking) so im just gonna go with that anyway

fallow cairn
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👍

languid sphinx
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At least on newegg

scenic lance
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good lord $150+ still for a 850W PSU, i musta gotten lucky when I paid $99 for my TT SmartPower 850W back in 2011 due to a BB employee placing error

elfin trout
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Uh

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Revo d.f. 850w for 130$ still bae

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I don't think 100$ for tt smart 850w is wrong

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Smart is a lower end model

alpine fox
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Isn't Thermaltake Smart one of the PSUs considered somewhat risky to have?

elfin trout
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Some of them

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80+ yea

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Some of the higher rated ones are usable

quick dirge
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Yeah I was just talking about my 600w TT smart that fried itself and almost started a fire

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Hang on I think I found a pic

elfin trout
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Lol

woven path
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Whats a good psu for above 1000w?

quasi dirge
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Seasonic and Corsair

analog fox
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Opinions on absolute best case money can buy for thermals, build quality, and general sexiness?

fierce pivot
fierce pivot
fierce pivot
analog fox
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No budget concerns

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Ty I'll check it out. 4000d was on my list but didn't know about 5000d

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I do like the looks of the ones that have the fans on the back. Is it actually good for temps to max out the fans on that?

fierce pivot
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5000d is just a slightly bigger with side mounted fan as option i believe

analog fox
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I have 2 2 fan radiators

fierce pivot
fierce pivot
analog fox
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I have a cpu aio and a gpu aio

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My cpu has always been my front intake

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and my gpu rad my exhaust but I need new case because new gpu will be 2 fan and I don't have a spot for a 2nd rad

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Looks like it's built for that

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I like this case! May well get it, tyvm. Open to any other suggestions for comparison too! Ideally I want this case to last like 10+ years haha

fierce pivot
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Np, that makes sense cases are just a feature set and it should last 10 years

fallow cairn
elfin trout
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whoops

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@fallow cairn wait then your message makes even less sense

fallow cairn
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how so

elfin trout
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oh nvm

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I thought it said "uses a llc resonate controller that can cause a while like sound" or something

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didn't see the burst mode

elfin trout
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im durp

woven path
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Do the threadripper motherboards fit in ATX cases?

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Nvm thats a dumb question

sand atlas
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There's a couple ITX boards that fit Epyc processors

analog fox
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I think I'm going to keep looking for something more flexible than the O11 Dynamic XL. After watching GN case review it seems like despite its size it's actually pretty limiting, and I'm need to make sure this case is able to house basically anything

scenic lance
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Any one know a good case with nice air flow i got 3 cats so filters would be nice

elfin trout
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The usual good cases, td500 mesh, p500a, 4000d, lancool ii mesh, etc.

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iirc 4000d has a removable dust filter, for the others, the mesh front is the filter (removable ofc)

scenic lance
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Ok thx

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Im new to makeing pcs any saguestion for my first

elfin trout
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lemme check if it was 4000d or 5000d that has removable filters..

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@scenic lance First, what's your budget for a case?

scenic lance
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I mean my buget is 2 k and i git the ram and mother bord so id say 1 to 200

distant dagger
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what would be a good program to make up a model for a case i want to build?

scenic lance
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U can make your own case?

distant dagger
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yeah?

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ive been drawing up different schematics for a few ideas i had

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rn i have a phanteks p400a and it doesnt really have the room for the type of build im going for, so im either going to chop it and modify it or build one how i want it from the ground up

elfin trout
elfin trout
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(it's the one I linked, but yea, P500a is great, Vintageracer has it right now)

scenic lance
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Ok thx

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Do the fans change color with a remote or dose it rotate?

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I Saw those so theought id ask

elfin trout
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I need to check, I believe it comes with a remote too?, but either way, it'll be controllable with software

scenic lance
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Ok thx cuse i got a temp ibuypower and i cant change the color

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They just rotate

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It came with a prpgram but it couldent load it

elfin trout
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Ah yea

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@scenic lance Buttons on the case can control it

golden ice
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looking for a decent priced psu (around $100-120 mark) anywhere from 650-750W - any suggestions, thanks.

fierce pivot
golden ice
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thanks my bad didnt even see the pinned list

silent bronze
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whats the best 850w psu fully modular 80+ gold and up under 135$

edgy tiger
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Toughpower gf1 and Entermax revolution DF good options

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@silent bronze

silent bronze
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thank you

edgy tiger
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If i had to pick go with the thermaltake

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Have used before and satisfied

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New thermaltake stuff is actually pretty good

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Honorable mention to the EVGA bq that i would pick if it weren’t semi instead of full modular

silent bronze
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can u link the thermal take

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@edgy tiger

chrome iris
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quality-wise

chrome iris
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@opal night do you have some sources on aresgame PSUs

opal night
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Anything that offers a paid review on Amazon is no good

opal night
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Tier D XD

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Big surprise there

chrome iris
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I mean you can literally look inside the fan grille and see that it’s group regulated

fallow cairn
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they advertise false marketing of DC/DC as well

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recently they have also been marketing OTP

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the OEM is Jiumeng, a small electronics manufacturer

elfin trout
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uh the heck

fallow cairn
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Cringe Corsair's chinese name

elfin trout
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lol what

elfin trout
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but

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American Pirate Ship

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why not like Sailboat

limpid ivy
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Hello guys! I have a question in regards to my gaming case (if it's okay to ask in here)?

elfin trout
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go ahead

chrome iris
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American Pirate Ship I’m dying

limpid ivy
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So I have to replace my tempered glass side panel since it shattered, and was wondering if any of the Fractal Design R4, R5, or R6 side panel upgrades would fit on my case? I have a CyberPowerPC Onyxia II 242W High Air Flow Mid Tower Gaming Case?

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I don't need to replace the whole case, just the side panel

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(hopefully)

chrome iris
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The side panel, and case, look really similar to a Thermaltake Core G21

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Not the front panel but the inside

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Is there a chance you can send some pictures

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I’m not sure how you’d buy just a side panel for either of those but idk

limpid ivy
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sure! One sec

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oh, it says I don't have permission to attach files LOL

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I can put it in gen chat rq??

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nvm, build pics is where I placed the images at

empty token
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@limpid ivy Hmm do you have warranty for the pc still

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Cause cyber power would probably send a replacement side panel

limpid ivy
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I'm almost positive it still has the warranty. It's not even a year old

empty token
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Yeah 2 year is standard for prebuilt companies I believe

limpid ivy
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I sent a request to CyberPowerPC, so just waiting on that. I was just curious about the fractal design side panel upgrades as a just in case type thing

empty token
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At least 1 year

limpid ivy
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ye

empty token
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Waiting for them to respond is probably the best option

limpid ivy
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yeah

empty token
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Would be hard to find one the same height width and stuff

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Unless it’s just a rebrand of a different case

limpid ivy
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right right

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well I appreciate the help! Thank you thank you!

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luckily everything still works on it...had to fish out all the tempered glass pieces

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that was so much fun LOL

empty token
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I’ve shattered a panel before was too lazy to get a replacement

chrome iris
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@limpid ivy from those pics you posted that is definitely an alternation of the Thermaltake Core G21

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If you can get a core G21 panel it should work

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Cause here’s my core G21 build. Exactly the same

limpid ivy
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oh wow! I'll look into that as well!

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thank you!

vocal tree
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Such a smol matx board peepoSadSip

chrome iris
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In such a big case too haha

vocal tree
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Versa H18 is basically the same case but smaller :p

chrome iris
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Well this was $30 on sale so I was like why not

vocal tree
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Fair

chrome iris
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Unless I had a reason to use this specific case other than being on sale I wouldn’t use it

empty token
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I have a h18 at my front door

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Wack

vocal tree
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Epic

fallow cairn
#

that's the Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case 6 RGB LED Fans 2 Translucent Tempered Glass Panels USB 3.0 Port,Cable Management/Airflow, Gaming Style Window Case (903N4(4PCS RGB Fans)) case

elfin trout
#

@scenic lance Looks like the Musetek case

noble leaf
#

best combo bang for the buck and cooling atx case with decent aesthetic? im guessing the p300a but i need a diff case for better cooling, cpu and gpu a little warmer than id like them to be

elfin trout
#

Wat

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What's wrong with the p300a

noble leaf
#

no im saying im guessing that may be the best answer but i dont know. and i want to make the right choice

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i have a corsair 200r and it isn't the greatest for front intakes

fierce pivot
#

Corsair 400d/5000d airflow

elfin trout
#

Oh I thought you meant you need something other than p300a for some reason

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P400a, p500a, lancool ii mesh, td500 mesh

fierce pivot
#

Gamers nexus has really detailed case reviews if you wanna check temp

elfin trout
#

Just keep in mind circumstances behind charts

fierce pivot
#

Indeed

elfin trout
#

(some case better for cpu temp, some better for gpu temp, some better with stock fan setup, some better with normalized fan setup, etc)

noble leaf
#

400d/5000d way outta price range lol but ill check those others out

elfin trout
#

Uh I just assumed 100$ price range

fierce pivot
#

^

noble leaf
#

80 - 100 is what im shooting for but i know the 4000d i could afford to buy. ill just have to see whats the best for my case

elfin trout
#

Oh right 5000d is like 150$

noble leaf
#

actually 165+

#

4000d isa only 95$ hmmm

signal birch
#

what's the best case for around 50 with fans included (at least 2)

#

or should I try to buy a cheap case, then get fans?

chrome iris
#

comes with 3 fans, argb, and two being 140mm

signal birch
#

black color scheme?

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*is there a

chrome iris
#

theres a black version i think

#

ok i guess its not out in the US yet pepesadge

signal birch
#

I was looking at the montiech flyer rn

chrome iris
#

ive heard its nice to build in, but airflow is choked

#

doesnt look like great value for what, $47?

#

too bad idx7 is outta stock that woulda been great

signal birch
#

yeah

chrome iris
#

5600x and 1060 pop off

signal birch
#

wdym

chrome iris
#

just an odd pairing unless youre waiting for new gpu

signal birch
#

i am

chrome iris
#

which I assume you are

#

yeah

#

which one are you planning on getting

signal birch
#

I think I'll try an get either a 3060 or 2060ti, or I'll get a 6700xt

chrome iris
#

2060 Ti?

#

ye id change PSU and Case in ur bruh

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unless you already have psu

signal birch
#

i don't

#

whats bad with it?

chrome iris
#

just not great quality

silk lance
#

Does Enermax make decent cpu coolers? Was looking at the ets t50 on an i5 11600

chrome iris
#

id rather not for $60

fierce pivot
normal goblet
#

guys my brand new phantecks 750w is randomly shutting down during gaming
i have a non oc 9900k and 1660 ti hooked up to it

fierce pivot
#

What's happening when it shuts down? And did you double check all the connections?

normal goblet
#

and yes they are all plugged in

fierce pivot
#

Hmm I'm not hugely knowledgeable in psu but might have to rma

fierce pivot
#

Rma, like a return

normal goblet
#

oh no

normal goblet
#

used

fierce pivot
normal goblet
#

errr there are like 5+ listings of 3gb 1060s

fierce pivot
#

They 100% scams

elfin trout
#

ya

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a guy bought one, was some weird card without any vram in #tech-deals recently

vocal tree
#

W

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Without vram da_heck

#

Yes you have to weed out the sketchy ones

#

There's cards without vram?

fierce pivot
elfin trout
#

it was 1050ti not 1060 but still, fake card

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

fierce pivot
#

A good old "gts 1050 ti"

#

Sounds like a wish gts 480 or whatever it's called gpu

elfin trout
#

lol

vocal tree
#

GTS 450

elfin trout
fierce pivot
elfin trout
#

lol

vocal tree
#

ooF

normal goblet
#

guys everytime i get into a apex game my whole pc shuts down

#

like my psu just shuts down

vocal tree
#

What psu you got

normal goblet
#

phantecks 750w amp

#

brand new

#

less than 2 weeks old

#

@vocal tree

opal night
#

Whjat parts are you powering with that?

normal goblet
#

1660 ti and non oc 9900k

opal night
#

SHould be more than enough to power things. Way more than enough. I'd suspect heat issues before power supply. You're sure all the connections are proper?

normal goblet
#

err i think

#

what should i check?

fierce pivot
#

Just take the cables out and put em back in incase

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To start with

normal goblet
#

k

fierce pivot
#

But yeah check temps too

opal night
#

Use HWINFO64. What cooler are you running on that 9900k? Please don't say stock intel....

fierce pivot
#

Yikes

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Oh few

opal night
#

Hmmm, that should be fine also. GPU power is going to PCI-E spot on Phanteks right?

#

Not the Sata ports?

normal goblet
#

yep

#

it was fine till today

opal night
#

9900K has 8 pin CPU power on motherboard?

fierce pivot
#

Did you remember to take the plastic off bottom of the d15 lol?

opal night
#

WOuldn't be the first time actually

normal goblet
fierce pivot
#

What's it like under load this

opal night
#

Under load

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Not at idle

normal goblet
fierce pivot
opal night
#

For both?

normal goblet
elfin trout
#

Apex usually really sensitive with OCs

#

@normal goblet reset cmos

normal goblet
elfin trout
normal goblet
#

o thx

worthy crypt
#

Do Asia horse cable extensions work on the c850 nzxt psu

sand atlas
#

Extensions should, in theory, work for everything

limpid ivy
#

Good news! CyberPower is sending another glass 😊

chrome iris
#

nice!

alpine fox
#

I keep being tempted to put some cable extensions on my list.

slate creek
#

Anyone have any good suggestions for a mini itx case?

sand atlas
#

There's so many different types and sizes of ITX case I couldn't possibly recommend one without knowing what other features you need. Do you need it ultra compact? A handle? Will you be putting a full size GPU in there?

fierce pivot
#

And will you be water/air cooling

slate creek
#

Water cooling, full size gpu and I’m going portable

astral grail
#

RTX 3090 with H710i? Enough airflow? Was looking at NZXT prebuilts to refresh myself with prices and that doesn't seem like it would be enough.

slate creek
#

Preferably I’m going for something that doesn’t take up too much space

fierce pivot
#

I mean it might be okay

#

Wouldn't recommend tho

astral grail
#

What I thought. I'm not going to get a 3090 just saw it on their pre-builts

fierce pivot
#

Fair

#

But anyone getting a 3090 can afford 150 for a 5000d or something

astral grail
#

Assumed so

elfin trout
fierce pivot
#

Ntb

elfin trout
#

the review is like 2 years old

#

keep that in mind

#

p400a p500a lancool ii mesh td500 mesh all not up there

astral grail
#

Yea, and thats also not with a 3090 lol

elfin trout
#

but all of those perform around H500 (no suffix, coolermaster) or better than it

elfin trout
#

remember

#

this is dT over ambient

astral grail
#

Assumed they were reading GPU temps from software or something

elfin trout
#

No one can predict temp in a specific situation

astral grail
#

Still, if your getting a 3090 no reason not to get a 5000D or something else

elfin trout
#

too many god damn variables

#

but, it seems decent

elfin trout
#

p500a for what, 130$ is it but better

#

:P

empty token
#

And water cooling parts especially for itx

slate creek
#

Ahh ok thanks

#

I’ll check him out

sinful zealot
#

how can i decide which case to get

#

if they are all different sizes'

pastel plover
#

what are good cases that can support 360 mm rads

#

preferrably under 70-80

fierce pivot
sinful zealot
#

ok thx

empty token
#

I believe

storm crypt
#

How many Watts do I need for a 3060ti and 11400f?

fierce pivot
#

600 or 650w will do fine

flat hearth
#

Hi. I don't know where to go in here on the topic of unboxing a PC. So i took out the foam and checking things out for damage or anything. I haven't touched anything but i notice there are zip ties on the cords and something that looks like it could be plugged in but is zipped tied so i don't know

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I tried calling them but no answer

#

Do i cut those papers off? And cut off the zip ties

opal night
#

I'd leave em TBH

#

keeps the cables tidy

flat hearth
#

The part where my finger is don't need to be hooked up anywhere?

topaz robin
#

people pay extra for good cable management 🙂 zip ties are good

flat hearth
#

Okay what about the white paper. Do i take that off?

topaz robin
#

no

flat hearth
topaz robin
#

it literally says void if removed doesnt it

opal night
#

Just tuck it out of the way

#

It'll be fine

flat hearth
#

Okay. Thanks

fierce pivot
opal night
#

Yeah, they are illegal

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In the US anyway

topaz robin
#

when you say illegal, do you mean like its a crime to add, or just that it isn't enforceable or binding in any way?

opal night
#

Illegal to put those on

topaz robin
#

thats concerning then lol

opal night
#

And also unenforceable

#

Eh

#

Everyone still does it

topaz robin
#

either way Id leave it and just tuck it away, its a clear indicator not to mess with it

#

lawyers arent worth the hassle if you have to deal with support and they get difficult about it

flat hearth
#

Okay I'm ready to start plugging cords.. i think i did it wrong last time. So i plug in power cord from monitor to pc where? This sticker says remove before use but it has an arrow so im confused if it wants me to plug stuff down below

fierce pivot
#

The power cord goes to your wall

#

Connect your monitors display to where it tell you

#

You might need to take out the black things for the port you wannt use

topaz robin
#

i think it probably wants you to plug the hdmi or display port into the gpu (the ones the arrow points at) rather than the motherboard (which might have additional ports the sticker is covering up?)

flat hearth
#

I have a power cord for the monitor to connect to PC and it doesn't really say where

topaz robin
#

power goes to wall
hdmi or display port goes to pc

flat hearth
fierce pivot
#

Wall or extension lead

#

Or you might call it a surge protector

flat hearth
#

I think we are talking about different plug ins. I 2 already connected to wall.

topaz robin
#

this is power, it goes to wall

flat hearth
#

Those two are connected to wall.

topaz robin
#

this is display port, plug it into the pc

flat hearth
#

Its this cord im confused about at the moment

topaz robin
#

plug it into one of these

#

its display port, its similar to hdmi

flat hearth
#

Okay i see where it says dp

#

Got it

topaz robin
#

awesome 🙂

#

afterward you can remove that sticker, it just wanted you to be sure it plugged into the gpu and not the motherboard, which might have extra ports

flat hearth
#

Gotcha.

#

Okay Now im doing it for the HDMI.

#

Does it matter which one?

sand atlas
#

You don't need both HDMI and DP, unless you have multiple monitors

topaz robin
#

you only need one of the two; so just leave the dp in. the other ports are if you have additional monitors (and again, use the ones in the gpu)

fierce pivot
#

Display port is better tho if you have a dp cable

flat hearth
#

Okay so the GPU is the ones on the very bottom

topaz robin
#

yeah

flat hearth
#

So whats the difference between the power in the front and this button?

topaz robin
#

that has to be switched on, and then the power button on the front actually turns it on

#

if that is switched off, power button wont work

flat hearth
#

Okay

#

Its running. Just setting up now.

empty token
flat hearth
#

Yes

empty token
#

Nice

#

I have one too, you can look up some color settings for it online and it makes it look better

flat hearth
#

Do i need to set anything up myself like windows 10 or drivers if thats the right word? Im so new to this.

sand atlas
#

That was a prebuilt right? It should be done already

elfin trout
#

and M27q has an extremely good out of box color accuracy as tested by RTings :P

flat hearth
#

Navidia control panel not found.

fierce pivot
#

Get nvdia/amd drivers, amd/intel chipset drivers and do windows update

flat hearth
elfin trout
#

download it then

fierce pivot
#

And other drivers if you wanna use something like driver booster by iobit

elfin trout
#

it should've came with nvcp tbh

flat hearth
#

Do i download the armoury crate app?

elfin trout
#

not necessary, I wouldn't unless necessary, not great software (buggy and annoying)

flat hearth
#

Okay

flat hearth
#

Do i turn this on?

fierce pivot
flat hearth
fierce pivot
#

Just turn on should work

flat hearth
#

Do you know the actual website?

sand atlas
#

What CPU and GPU was in there? I'll grab links

fierce pivot
flat hearth
flat hearth
fierce pivot
flat hearth
fierce pivot
#

The prebuilt has am x570?

sand atlas
#

Probably not but it's the same drivers

#

Just organized differently

flat hearth
#

So which one do i click on chipsets?

sand atlas
#

Hit Windows 10 - 64 Bit, then there's a download button

flat hearth
#

I can't get this app to pull up on my pc instead of phone. Can you walk me through it please?

#

This is what im looking at atm

sand atlas
#

Follow the other link I sent that ends in x570

flat hearth
#

Okay i sent it to myself. Its pulled up on pc instead of phone now

sand atlas
#

You can access discord through a browser too, you don't need it installed btw

flat hearth
#

Okay so i download all of these under windows 10?

sand atlas
#

Just the first one, the rest are for special cases like RAID volumes

flat hearth
#

Amd chipset got it

#

Installing.

sand atlas
#

That way you can login with your browser and click links that way

flat hearth
#

Restarting PC

#

Idk if it worked

sand atlas
#

Did it boot? If yes it worked

flat hearth
#

Whats boot?

sand atlas
#

Never mind. If you're back in the desktop install the Nvidia driver next.
If there's not warning or anything when installing it, then it worked.

flat hearth
#

Okay installing nvidia geforce experience

#

Downloading geforce game ready driver

#

Says its installed. What's next?

sand atlas
#

That's it. Install the things you want, play games, enjoy.

flat hearth
#

How do i know the chipset installed?

#

amd drivers, amd? intel chipset drivers? Whats the difference? And im supposed to do a windows update after?

sand atlas
#

Windows update will run on its own in the background. It'll let you know if you need to reboot.
AMD and Intel are the motherboard chipset manufacturers, you have an AMD system so you use AMD chipset drivers.
Nvidia and AMD make GPUs, you have a Nvidia RTX GPU so you use the Nvidia graphics drivers.

flat hearth
#

Okay. So we completed everything we needed to. Do i need to configure resolution or anything for the monitor or should I be all set?

drifting sonnet
#

right, i've got a 2070 super, a 3700x, and all the basic stuff like SSDs, ram and such
my power supply kicked the bucket, anyone got a recommendation that won't break for explode?

sand atlas
flat hearth
#

Thank you so much for your time

drifting sonnet
# sand atlas Budget?

whatever can get the thing working again, or else i'm losing 1500 by having a dead computer

drifting sonnet
#

and this won't kick the bucket within a year like whatever garbage they put in my PC will?

sand atlas
#

The enermax has a 7 year warranty and the corsair has 10, both are known to be A tier top dog units

drifting sonnet
#

lovely

astral grail
#

Given $170 for a case whats your recommendation? Friend is looking at the H710i know there must be a better case out there.

elfin trout
#

P500a

sand atlas
#

Ehhh H710i isn't horrible but much better ones exist for cheaper. Check out the 4000d/5000d airflow.

elfin trout
#

TD500 mesh, (Coolermaster) H500, 4000d, 5000d, P400a, etc

#

P500a is my top suggestion though

astral grail
#

Oh no I know its not bad, just there are cheaper and better options

signal birch
#

I don't know much about psu's, so which should I get?

fierce pivot
#

It's a c tier psu, will do but I'd see if there's anything else for that price 1 sec

signal birch
#

maybe a 2060fe or 3060ti fe

opal night
#

750 w for a 1060?

signal birch
#

not 700w

opal night
#

650 max for 3060ti upgrade down the road.

opal night
#

Or the segotep

fierce pivot
#

Yeah

fierce pivot
#

That's a b tier psu so will be better than the evga one you originally had

signal birch
#

k

alpine fox
#

I'm aiming a little higher for a modular PSU. I'm willing to pay a bit more to dodge certain annoyances.

scenic lance
#

Is a 750 wat gold good for a i700k and gtx 3070

opal night
#

WHICH 750 watt gold

#

Gold means almost nothing

vocal tree
#

My grandpa has a TT Toughpower 750w g

#

Tier c psu

#

I think

chrome iris
#

Ayo do your grandpa game

vocal tree
#

Grandpa watches fonx noos

chrome iris
#

Why does he have 750w power supply

vocal tree
#

HEDT chip ig

#

Paired with a 970 tho

chrome iris
#

Do he game tho

#

Why do he need the whole 970

vocal tree
#

Ion even kno

#

He's the kind of person to pay big monies on most things

#

So

#

He's got early adopter genes

jovial peak
#

Do any of you have recommendations on mini ITX cases?

vocal tree
#

Early LG 4K tv, launch model ps4, early home wifi camera security, etc.

lapis mantle
sand atlas
#

Yes, good eATX case and good for custom cooling

elfin trout
#

P500a

zenith basalt
#

i broke the rgb hub that came with my pc case. what do i do

zenith basalt
#

well duh, but where do i get one

vestal wharf
#

idk

zenith basalt
#

it connects to my led header

vestal wharf
#

3 pin or 4 pin?

zenith basalt
#

4 pin

vestal wharf
#

so it is -RGB

zenith basalt
#

k

vestal wharf
#

how many devices?

#

rgb i mean

zenith basalt
#

3

vestal wharf
#

ok

alpine fox
#

Maybe take a picture of the hub? It might help in recommendations to replace. Or tell us what case you have

vestal wharf
#

yes

zenith basalt
#

msi mag forge 100m

vestal wharf
#

photo

zenith basalt
#

k

#

cant send it here

vestal wharf
#

dm me

zenith basalt
vestal wharf
#

srry cant find one

#

ask like vintage or google your case the rgb controller

opal night
opal night
#

WOW that manual is unhelpful

vestal wharf
#

lol

#

could prob find it on ebay @opal night

opal night
versed blaze
#

idk who needs it

#

but this is a 600w psu for 44$ plus tax

#

it is on a big discount from newegg

#

40% off from 75$

opal night
#

Pretty meh quality PSU, overpriced to begin with 😉

versed blaze
#

i think its fine for me and other ppl who are building a entry level pc on a budget

opal night
#

Depends on what you're powering with it

vocal tree
#

isn't BR more decent quality than BA

elfin trout
#

Both really meh

opal night
#

Yeah

#

Not worth

#

I think Corsair CX just a few bucks more

#

Well it used to be, not anymore -_-

elfin trout
#

Segotep

#

Segotep superior

opal night
#

Ya, looks like

unique pilot
#

Segotep isn't superior at all

#

OPP is set sky high

#

And it fails to trip OTP

opal night
#

To the crap evga?

unique pilot
#

Oh it's better than the evga br

#

But that's a pretty low bar lol

#

The segotep gp-g OPP set limit does really put me off though

opal night
#

Right

#

Thats what we talking about lol

#

Evga ba to be exact

unique pilot
#

Evga ba is a weird one I can't find anything on it yet

#

Reviews on it a scarce

opal night
#

Im mobile else id look

unique pilot
#

It uses the andyson q8 platform it seems which is the same as what the evga bq uses

#

So it's not a bomb but it's defo not a good unit

opal night
#

Regular rpice 75 too is horrible

unique pilot
#

Yeah that's awful corsair cx is far better at that price point if not lower

opal night
#

Yup! But on sale for 45 id still go segotep for 50

unique pilot
#

Like i said for the points I raised I couldn't put my trust in the segotep

opal night
#

Sure, i get it

#

Oh

#

Check cx prices now

#

Seem to have gone up

unique pilot
#

For reference

#

That's the enermax platimax unit that the segotep gp-g is a cost down version of

#

No OCP on the 12v rail and OPP set greater that 150%

#

Defo could lead to damaged components if it goes wrong

#

Shame the cx has gone up in price so much

opal night
#

What was thebother one, montech gamma or beta?

unique pilot
#

Montech century but isn't as good value as it was a few months back

#

Msi agf is lower or same price and is better

opal night
#

Only downside is the 12v regulation iirc.

#

Compared to the others though its great

unique pilot
#

Msi agf should be fine it's the same platform used by alot of psu's

#

The CWT GPU used in:
Revolution df (multi rail version) (best fan available with this platform)
Whisper m (multi rail version)
Deepcool dq-m (multi rail version)
Corsair RM (less heavily modified version)
Corsair RMx (heavily modified version)

fierce pivot
#

Can i get someone who knows about power supplys opinion on the be queit pure power 11? Only the 10 is on the psu list and it's b tier

elfin trout
#

And tbh

#

I don't like agf when revo d.f. 850w is 120$ lel

unique pilot
unique pilot
#

Also furthering on from gp-g talk someone in another server who tests psu's couldn't get the OTP to trip and did find that the OPP was indeed set sky high

elfin trout
#

Wack

#

Qubex? (Qubex being only english reviewer I remember with gp-p/sg-g)

#

I think rm has bad chinese on primary, and Chinese/taiwanese on secondary

unique pilot
elfin trout
#

Fair, I know they posted internal pics but no testing

umbral monolith
#

thoughts on the Phanteks Eclipse P600S?

#

worth buying?

unique pilot
#

Expensive but good

exotic junco
#

Build experience was night and day compared to the Lian Li O11-XL

#

Which cost almost twice as much.

#

The only thing I don't particularly like about it are the sliding plastic covers, but that's because I have an E-ATX motherboard with right angle connectors, and I was just barely able to get the 24-pin cable plugged into it. With an ATX motherboard, or an E-ATX motherboard without 90 degree connectors, it would have been just fine.

unique pilot
#

Yeah not a fan of them cable covers they have the same in the p500a defo would be better off with rubber grommets

exotic junco
#

Kind of?

#

Like... when I slid the covers to the left, then routed the front fan cables, then slid the covers back to cover those, that felt pretty neat.

#

I don't think they're a bad idea on paper

noble leaf
#

i nabbed the p400a, it comes in monday and im actually kinda excited

exotic junco
#

Phanteks won me over just by putting the screws in a compartmentalized plastic case instead of dumping them into a big bag like everyone else seems to do >_>

noble leaf
#

wait so itll be in a nice plastic case?

#

the screws will?

exotic junco
#

They were in my P600S

#

Give me a second, I'll take a picture

#

I doubt you can see it, but Phanteks is embossed / printed on there too

noble leaf
#

bro i really hope my p400a comes that way

#

definitely giving 5 stars for that

#

just for that

exotic junco
#

Also, most of this cable management was done when I got the case. All those cable ties were already installed in there, and all the front panel stuff was already cable managed. I just had open the ties and slip cables in there as needed, then refasten. Probably didn't do as great a job, but it looks OK to me.

noble leaf
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wont really see much when you put on the rear panel since black doesn't show well on black

exotic junco
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Nah. I also love the hinged doors.

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I just felt like Phanteks went above and beyond in pretty much every way. If I had looked more into the Evolv X back when it came out I probably would have gotten that instead of the Lian Li case.

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I didn't realize the Phanteks supported 140mm fans everywhere.

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Or that its front panel didn't really obstruct airflow.

opal night
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Phanteks pog

exotic junco
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I don't wanna post mine now. I'm planning on swapping out the NH-D15 for an AIO when I can get my hands on a new GPU, and while I am at it, I will probably swap out the stock 24-pin cable and replace it with the custom MDPC-X sleeved one I got. The original one I had measured for the Lian Li wouldn't quite reach.

elfin trout
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D15 still nice

exotic junco
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Takes up way too much space. I don't know if I can even get to the PCIe release lever with it in there

elfin trout
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I can, but it is thicc

woeful mauve
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I may have to wait a while to get the new PSU, but I thought I'd ask if anyone at Newegg had any ideas for an affordable solution, I would Love it to provide about 2x the demands of the system below, preferably Titanium, or Platinum rated (for better heat management and energy efficiency)
ASRock X399 Phantom Gaming 6 sTR4 AMD X399 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1900X 8-Core / 16 Threads 3.8 GHz Socket sTR4 180W YD190XA8AEWOF Desktop Processor
Thermaltake Water 3.0 280 Riing Red Edition PWM AIO Tt LCS Certified Liquid Cooling System CL-W138-PL14RE-A
G.SKILL Aegis 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300) Desktop Memory Model F4-2666C19D-32GIS
fenvi PCE-AX200T WiFi 6 PCIe Desktop Intel AX200 Wifi Card 3000Mbps Bluetooth 5.0 802.11ax/ac Adapter, Wireless PCI Express 2.4Ghz/5.0Ghz Dual Band MU-MIMO OFDMA Magnet Antenna for Windows 10 Linux
Rosewill ATX Full Tower Gaming PC Computer Case with Blue LED Fans, E-ATX Support, Dual PSU Support, Optional 360mm Water Cooling Radiator, up to 7 Fan Support - RISE Glow
Patriot Burst 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) PBU120GS25SSDR
2x Crucial BX500 SSD (480gb each).

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BTW budget today is $200 but likely will have a bit more soon

sand atlas
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That poor threadripper... It gets beaten so thoroughly by the new cpu's...

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Keeping the peak load below half is actually less efficient than a smaller capacity unit running 80%

woeful mauve
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Was looking to future system expansion, am willing to sacrifice a bit of efficiency for a future system demand capable PSU

sand atlas
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I might have missed it but what gpu were you running?

woeful mauve
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MSI Radion Rx 570

sand atlas
opal night
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Yeah but for another $5 you can get a Phanteks AMP 750W full modular

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Great PSU

north fox
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Thanks

fast pendant
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Are APEVIA or Thermaltake PSUs any good? are they loud?

fast pendant
north fox
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No

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Thats a bad psu

opal night
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Yeah

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That's a no

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Budget and wattage?

north fox
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Ive got a tt smart, really shouldnt have D:

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Luckily only an APU build

fast pendant
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No, just asking cuz some have the same prices as a Gigabyte or EVGA

opal night
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Well

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EVGA at that price point is gross also

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BA for example

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BR is passable

fast pendant
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Ty

chrome iris
# opal night BA for example

How the BA in comparison to W1 or BR? Obviously you’re saying it’s worse than BR but what are the major differences

opal night
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In between. BR better, N1 is obviously a fire hazard

polar seal
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is this any good? https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-T2-0850-X1&Source=PCPartPicker
EVGA SuperNOVA 850 T2, 80+ TITANIUM 850W, Fully Modular

opal night
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For $300?

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Oh heck no

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Enermax Revolution DF 850W

north fox
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Ofc its good, good value tho definetly not lol

polar seal
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never said god value 😄

exotic junco
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$300? That's ridiculous. I bought an EVGA 1200 P2 for like $279 in 2019

opal night
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Compared to others it's OK

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Enermax is top of it's class and multi rail

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And only $129

polar seal
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hmm it's only gold, was thinking going titamium level 😄

opal night
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So fun thing

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The difference between gold and titanium is about $5 a year in savings

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Maybe $10 at most

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So the price difference will literally take you years to overcome

north fox
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Decades

opal night
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So save money and just go Gold

exotic junco
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The important thing is to refuse to buy any PSU that's not fully modular. We have to have standards lol

north fox
exotic junco
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the 3000 series is power hungry enough I don't know if I'd be brave enough to go with 750W given what they are liable to come out with next

polar seal
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ya i was thinking 850 for a rtx card and just keep shuffling till i get a chance

opal night
alpine fox
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I bought a Phanteks AMP 750W for my build. (It is a tad overkill for a 5600x and 3060, but it does leave me loads of space to upgrade in a few years.)

reef axle
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whats a good psu for a 3700x and a 3070

vocal tree
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I only buy non modular 😤

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Avoiding cable management is for wimps

elfin trout
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those are just nice PSUs for the price

elfin trout
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that's revo d.f. 850w

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so it's good

polar seal
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wuuut why there so many psu and why does it feel like there overly complicated

fierce pivot
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Because why not

charred pier
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what's a good case that i should get

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i don't want it to be massive lol

fierce pivot
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Budget?

charred pier
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usd

fierce pivot
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Imo corsair 4000d airflow

charred pier
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do parts really matter?

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like what parts im gonna use in it