#cases-psu-and-cooling
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@daring marsh TD 500 mesh white?
@chrome iris wdym
@daring marsh for your case, look at the TD 500 mesh white
you wanted a white case right?
@tender root simple answer when it comes to cases you buy them to already be stocked up with fans or you get a more bare bones case?
@tender root question mark added
ah, now it makes much more sense @unreal garden :)
its a question of budget and what kind of system is supposed to go in the case
take something like the define 7 compact
it comes with 2 fans
1 front, 1 back
IF you are doing a 2060-ish build with a 3600/3700? that is imo plenty
Yeah I was hoping to go for a basic midtower to house my 3700x with maybe a 2070 or who knows a 3070 down the road or something along those lines
admitted, i have a sweet spot for Fractal Design cases.
They look so nice especially the meshify ones for airflow
so something like the afore mentioned compact or the meshify C (i think its called)
let me just check
I've seen a few builds for 3700x with a tiny case but they made it work well
Yeah see something like that is what I always had in mind
keep in mind, the above is mATX mainboard size max
personally i have no problem with that
because you generally really dont use the pci-e slots for anything
heck, aside from my workstations, all my systems are ITX
That one comes with a front and an exhaust fan too it looks like
That kinda airflow sufficient for most gaming computers? I see some cases stacked with like 4-7 120 mm fans
so note however IF you go really long GPU (3080 Strix fx)
you are going to have a problem with clearance
it is "only" 315mm clearance for the GPU
which is still a BIG card
That's always a possibility down the road I guess
but some of them are longer
and there are plenty of cards in the 3080 class that will fist
its just something to be aware of :)
re: airflow: Imo? yes. its plenty
Right
Also when it comes to psu I see people having issues with the cases fitting them I thought they generally were the same size
re: gazillion fans: generally, aside from being something to talk about, they dont actually do much
So in general a front and a back fan are enough to keep the air moving through sufficiently
?
as in, when you get to a certain point: the return on invesment is very small
depending on the case? yes
re: psu: elaborate if you remember details?
Would a fractal fit most psu's I didn't think they were that bulky
well, unless you get some silly big model? yes
Say your typical 750 watt psu I can't recall dimensions
175mm is a BIG psu
Is that common?
let me just grab some numbers
this is from the spec sheet for the Phantek AMP
which is a VERY good psu
its about 110-120usd for the 650watt model
it is FAR from the 175mm
you can ofc find models that are big
but generally i would have to go out of my way to find something in the brands i normally work with
I think my psu coming in today it's a thermaltake gold 750w I just forgot to peep the dimensions before ordering it
look up the exact model name and just look on TT's site :)
your order confirmation should have it :)
Okay good I was afraid I was gonna find out it's too bulky and I'd need a special case lol
nah, dont worry
a lot of the people that run into trouble with psu's (i had to get my brain thinking back)
are also generally the ones that are "looks over practicality" in part selection
if that makes sense?
generally IF you pay attention, the info you need to prevent things not fitting IS available
Right, which leads to another question about cpu pin connections
ask away :)
I see people complaining about it only be 8 pin and the want more for their mobo
as long as you remember that there are no stupid questions, only silly answers
you can ask all you want :)
But then people say extra connectors on the psu are for extreme OC'ing and they would have no need to be doing that
Yanno what I'm taking about?
that complaint makes no logical sense UNLESS you have been reading feedback from some Overclocking maniacs
This psu has the standard 8 pin plug in I believe thats common for cpu on the motherboard right?
aye, thats the EPS connector
Right right
So for people who overclock like crazy what do they want like an 8+8?
Or how does that work
I get confused hearing about this stuff so basically they'd double their power going into the cpu?
aye
OC when you get to a certain point stops being "practical" and more "lets hope stuff does not blow up"
Yeah it seems alittle crazy
you can strike the "a little" part from that :)
because generally, machines are fast enough
Okay good so I'll be straight with my 8 pin
Exactly if it's a high end cpu in the first place why would you overclock it even for gaming I don't think there'd be much of a need
well, depends on what you are trying to do
if you are chasing a high benchmark score? it makes sense
but 1-3 more frames are generally not going to make or break your gaming experience :)
(for the lurkers: yes, that is simplified a lot)
Lol
Cpu load during a high end game would generally stay low with a better cpu, right?
I watched a YouTube video of a guy benchmarking a bunch of cpus and say a 3900x and a 3700x were only around 50%
but it has a complex answer
The 3600 was still pulling good performance but was closer to 90%
That based on core usage?
its a case of "it depends"
aye, the 3600x is a 6core cpu
the 3700x is 8 core and the 3900 is a 12 core
Then their load percentage would be lower
So if you have one of those cpus doesn't that kinda defeat the purpose of overclocking because you'd already be chillin with all those cores
but in reality the 3900 is basically 2 * 3600 in one cpu
Cuz it's double everything
aye
"So if you have one of those cpus doesn't that kinda defeat the purpose of overclocking because you'd already be chillin with all those cores" <- for the regular consumer? i would say yes
BUT
make no mistake about it, OC'ing things can be fun as all heck :)
but generally for the regular build? its not worth it, prices of faster cpus are low enough that you dont need to
Plus, there is the automatic turbo/boost that happens on modern cpu's
they are generally running as fast as they can already
Oh good
(for the lurkers: yes, that is ALSO very simplified)
I'd be afraid to overclock anyway
Since we on the topic of cpus
The wraith cooler that comes with the 3700x has thermal paste pre applied
Is that sufficient
Some internet people be saying you should apply more but that seems excessive
Or that you should remove the existing stuff cuz of bubbles but I'd think it'd be fine and smooth
when it is mounted, things will be just fine
Should their be a worry of it drying up?
unless you pull it out of the package and put it in the oven for a day or so? no
So when installing the cooler on the cpu I shouldn worry about adding any thermal paste cuz it's already taken care of?
Right
Okay good
And I like that cooler it seems like it does the job from what I've seen
aye, its a solid enough cooler
the only downside to it, is noise
BUT
that is compared to coolers that cost 50usd and up
and the stock cooler is afterall free :)
indeed
imo, there are more important things than the cooler to upgrade in a build
ofc, IF you have everything else, then yes, upgrade the cooler
its also overkill in a LOT of builds
a LOT of them are basically just light shows
and i find it rather ... silly .. to pay that amount for a lightshow
if you go to #building-and-recc-chat and look at some of the builds people post
Half the 3700x builds on pcpartpicker I was seeing water coolers I was thinking dang I don't have that kinda money
you will see builds that have more money spent on coolers, fans and lights than the GPU
do you have a build list?
Nothing set in stone I have my cpu I have my psu and I have two mobos in mind
The rest of the stuff still deciding
fair enough :)
Case and gpu might come last
any rough idea about ETA for building?
Uhhh
Probably by the end of the fall at the latest
I wanna deal on the gpu since that's the most expensive
Kinda wanna sit around black friday on that
Technically it's december 21 when winter starts
ah, plenty of time for things to settle down then
Black friday is the day after Thanksgiving which is usually like November 26th
Or around that week
you have the luxury of waiting to see how zen3 and the RDNA2 stuff turns out
upcoming CPU and GPU from amd
Yeah I'm happy with the cpu I got tho it was a good price
But yeah
Curious about the next gen
a lot of the tech community is :)
i would prefer if it was faster and the same or slightly more money
that would not hurt the competitive landscape at all
Yeah I dunno if it'll be faster
noone does :) (yet)
no matter which you prefer
I'll consider
it is in your best interest that neither of them stays on the top for too long
and nvidia has been on the top for a bit too long as things are right now
Bro the 20 series was so expensive
A 2070 super even now is kinda pricy
aye, because its direct successor is not out yet
their performance was so good that the people that had them, had no compelling reason (beyond raytracing) to upgrade
When did the 10s come out again?
summer 2016
Wow I assumed it was longer ago
I only just started paying attention in the past few years
1070/1080 was end of july 2016
I remember those going into alot of gaming laptops
and about a week-week½ after, the 1060 was launched
no
That one looked kinda nice
we will most likely hear more about it between the zen3 announcement and the rdna2 announcement
simply because nvidia does NOT want AMD to have all the press attention
What's your country of origin btw?
denmark
Very nice
anyone got a good atx case they would recommend with plenty of space for a cpu cooler radiator and fans? I got the TD500 and it has little to no room for cpu cooler, i mean i have it in but its smashing my ram
is that really a case issue then? sounds like you just got tall ram and a beefy cooler
yes, that is a CPU cooler issue if there is a ram clearance problem
his issue was solved earlier today
R the p500a and td500 cases airflow? Which is better?
I want a good airflow case that is white
Cuz some ppl said the p500 andtd500 r not airflow
They are both good airflow cases
Get the 4000d airflow 
They both have good airflow but I haven't seen the p500a in stock for a long time and the td500 mesh has 3 included fans, so I think its the better option
because its a pita to keep track of things up there :)
generally no
ofc, it ultimately depends on the case design
that is a smaller version of the meshify C
mATX boards being the max
Any opinions on the Corsair 4000 series vs the NZXT H510?
hm
They both are my favorites design wise. The NZXT looks much better in white IMO, but I’ve heard of cooling issues
okay, the following will ruffle some feathers
a LOT of cases that are "known" to be "bad for thermals!!!!!" are perfectly fine
oh really i might cop the h510 then
Yes I agree. I think most cases made by reputable companies won’t overheat any components. They need some form of usable airflow
yes, they dont perform like a open test bench with a industrial jet engine fan pointed at it
rip the h400
keep the following in mind
because people are really bad at conveying what exactly they are going to use a case for, it is ALWAYS the safer bet to go with something that has good airflow
I’m just not a fan of mesh.... idk why I just can’t get into the meshify c or p400a. I don’t mind the corsairs 4000d airflow but the front panel is just meh
hence why TD500 mesh etc are recommended
im probably using it for heavy
just saying
?
Now the h510 elite is arguably bad
@open sinew my comment was in regards to the link i posted :)
oh the define mini c tempered glass looks nice
aye, the "Define" series has nice design lines
Won’t you need a smaller Mb tho?
and @proud steeple yes, the H510 Elite is a good example of volume NOT telling you anything about airflow :)
Amazon too
imma change my build real quick then
any good matx motherboards?
wait will it fit a 3080
/ 3070
yeah it'll fit
sweet
I don’t need to change my build for a 500th time 
suuuuure
its my first build and my budget is around 1500 to 1600
i have 2k for both a computer and a laptop but im kinda axing the laptop for now
since
covid
You and I are in the same boat as far as build price
hm
the define c mini is actually cheaper then the case i was going to get
the td500 mesh is like
99
I think I’m going to go with the white Corsair 4000d airflow
And add the 3x icue fans for the front
That’ll also give me a bunch of Corsair parts lol. Ram, case, fans, and psu
Which cpu?
Maybe. Stock cooler is solid so I might not get one at first
im not going to overclock
because i dont really need the extra 5% performance anyway
yeah like 5%
I feel like the phanteks p500a has been out of stock for so long
Linus: "Even a high quality 850w couldn't keep up with our rtx 3090"
Me with my high quality 1050w:
or a lancool 2 mesh
Can I top mount a 280mm kraken x63 on a td500 mesh?
If I use low profile memory
I guess not right?
Kind of a deal breaker for me
what case is good for an rtx 2080 and
Does anyone know if An Intel Core I7 6700 @3.40 GHz Cpu and Acer Aspire T3-710 Motherboard (Prebuilt) Handle a 1650 super
@void coral if the motherboard has a PCIe X16 slot and the power supply has a 6 pin connector, then it should
yeah just make sure the psu has a connector, mobo is fine
When will P500A restock?
nobody knows
Did Phanteks stop producing them
idk
Linus: "Even a high quality 850w couldn't keep up with our rtx 3090"
@timid cedar me at Linus
Indeed
Got a quick case question , does anyone recomend a decent mid or full tower case with at least 3-4 5.25" external drive bays if 3 I'll need a 3.5" external as well, these seem to be a dieing breed and the ones I've seen seem to be a bit flimsy, thanks!
are you going to use them tho
Anyone have any Corsair Case?
@scenic lance I've had two. Why'd you ask?
Just wondering. Thinking of building a PC but can't decide what case to get
most likely going for mid tower
I’m looking into the 4000 series. Have only heard positive things so far
Yeah i was thinking of that too! But what bothers me is the 2 fans it comes with lol. Odd setup
It’s mesh though, so while more would be nice it won’t need them really
I might pick up 3 icue fans for the front tho I’m not sure yet
Just odd that they didn't include 3 already for the mesh one, like the tempered glass version
Well the tempered glass one needs the extra fans, and that’s what you get for the extra money. But I would rather pay $85-90 for 3 included fans (non rgb)
I'd warn you to check reviews if you go Corsair. I initially went for a flashy Corsair RGB case (Spec Omega), super cheap materials and poorly designed
They make good cases too, but always good to look at reviews first 🙂
I’ve watched 5 or so on the 4000d airflow and havent seen any complaints but I agree always do your own research
I always look at reviews.
I do like the tint on the black version of the 400d
4000d*
Reviewer reviews, not random Amazon reviews :)
Yep, brands can pay under the table for those
I’m thinking of the white, although the tinted is nice
Tinted seems rare for me. So might be going for that one
Meshify C?
Meshify C isn’t bad
(I mean a choice with tinted side panel)
Yeah that one isn't bad
Oh not sure? It might have one
I like the simple design of the 4000d
Has anyone got a Full Tower? I was looking into those as well. But it seems overkill for what I'm gonna be building
would a seasonic gx 550 be enough for a ryzen 5 3600 and rtx 2060?
Has anyone ever used a High Power hpg-700st-f12s? Im putting together a list of parts for my friend, so he can upgrade his current PC. This is the one he has now. Will it work, or should I add a new PSU to this list?
would a seasonic gx 550 be enough for a ryzen 5 3600 and rtx 2060?
@mortal mantle B-tier. Decent enough, but I'd make sure you can't find a similar or higher wattage A-tier for an eqv price
Has anyone ever used a High Power hpg-700st-f12s? Im putting together a list of parts for my friend, so he can upgrade his current PC. This is the one he has now. Will it work, or should I add a new PSU to this list?
@modest ginkgo Can't find much info on that model. Brand looks sketchy and they have some very low rated PSUs. What specs will it be running and what does he want to spend on it? I wouldn't risk it if he is putting decent parts in there
The planned upgrades are a Ryzen 3600 and a GTX 1660
And he wants to spend around 600-ish
Ok... Hmmm
The GPU isnt included in that, since Im selling him one of mine
So 550-600 for a pretty much everything excluding the GPU
3600X, specifically
Looks to be a custom PSU sku from iBuyPower
What tier is it
Not on the list. But there is a model that looks very similar (a letter off) that's D-Tier on the tier list
^
I'd try to flip it on ebay and get a b-tier or something
for a $600 build? That's a good portion of his budget
and he doesn't have top of the line specs
Or a Seasonic Focux GX
Yeah, those are probably gonna be a bit too much for now
One sec
I'd try to sell what you have. It's will probably get you a decent penny as it is high wattage, even if it's a crappy brand. Then you could used that to get something cheap but well rated, like this: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Certified-Refurbished/Power-Supplies/cx-series-config/p/CP-9020121-NA/RF
CX Seriesâ„¢ power supply units provide 80 PLUS Bronze efficiency at a competitive price point featuring black cable sleeving and connectors and a thermally controlled 120mm fan.
Refurblished, but $50 for a b tier
I think that's a decent fit for your specs
Alrighty, Ill discuss it with them and see what they wanna do
ayo I was wondering how I could hypothetically get switches to boot up my pc like a racecar or something does where you have to flip like 2 or 3 switches then one big one and then it starts
yeah how do I do that and is it extremely expensive
What is a relatively cheap, but good quality 80+ gold psu, 750w and above?
Do what I do: go into PCPP, sort by price and set your min wattage, find the first PSU that is of an appropriate tier
(
) for the specs
Is that reliable?
Yep, that is a well accepted and well documented tier list.
Probably want A or B tier if you are concerned with quality
Great thanks
I have my own list of A tier PSUs in this parametric selection.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/ry3RvK
I like that. Should add a B-tier one too
@vocal tree b
NZXT H510 best case
._.
im jk
i sure hope so
I like the 4000d airflow. I know its not the best but it looks good and performs fairly well for what it is
i like the TD500 mesh. I love the design so much
although most people dont really like it
The Lan Cool 2 mesh and P500A Are also pretty good looking
@pliant cypress tbh, all personal preference in the end
Yeah
I personally hate how the lancool 2 mesh's front mesh extrudes
feels like you just
dragged it out
a bit less of an issue with P400a, but I dislike it's look for the same reason
TD500 mesh looks good in the front imo because it looks like it's supported and it's just a single flat piece of mesh
¯_(ツ)_/¯
all personal preferences
@scenic lance here would prolly be better
but they seem to be helping you there so nvm
ah ok ty
Build-chat is multipurpose and does everything :P
I think it’s time for a new case
With better cooling support and dust protection
I would so like the case to up upgradable and have disk slots
Fractal Focus G?
Cougar MX330-G?
by disk slot do you mean 5.25 inch drive bay?
@lunar root
I think my drives are 3.5
ok so 2 hard drive slots plus a few 2.5" ssd slots?
Also if I upgrade my motherboard I can get the m.2 drives
whats ur budget for new case
I have 1 slot for a m.2 rn but my audio isn’t working rn
(also you better be getting a new psu before this)
Did you hear
It’s tier 3
yeah, wouldnt use tier C for a 5700 XT but whatever
it works
wont last as long, and 5700 XT uses a lot of power so theres bigger chance of failure and stuff but its whatever
whats ur budget for new case
$300 for a new case o_o
lol ok ill stay around the 130ish range max
I want it to fit ATX boards
TD 500 mesh
Meshify C
P300A mesh
Lian Li 011 dynamic (if you want to get really fancy)
275R airflow
220T airflow
Cooler Master H500
MX330-G
yep all fit atx mobo
and have at least 2 drive bays
why would you do such a thing
um bc im me
yea but i like wasting money so
(if youre sticking with mainstream intel and ryzen that is)
but you dont like spending more money on a power supply?
get your priorities straight please
Sigh...okay I now have a job which means I can spend some extra money on stuff and yes...I will upgrade to a tier A power supply soon just give me some time and I’ll have everything in order
look man, we're trying to get you to not spend extra money
and you keep not listening
save some money for like college or something idk
you should
all of us are trying to help you
and we cant help someone who doesnt listen
Ik but I don’t need it....99% my college is going to be paided for so I upgraded my pc
you can always save your money for something
Yes ik but if I want to have a E-ATX board you guys tell me no...
saving your money would be better than burning like $300 or more just for a highly unneeded EATX board
I need the pci slots
do you really
Yes for sound card and more usb slots
you can get all those on an ATX motherboard
I mean brb
atx motherboard have like 6-7 PCIe slots
thats enough for a GPU, and a sound card, and like 3 usb cards
The issue is rn my GPU is so big it’s blocking my m.2 and 1 of my pci slots
atx motherboard have like 6-7 PCIe slots
Well the monos I need either have 2 large pci and 3 small pci slots then
you can put PCIe x1 cards in x16 slots
Yes
like so
is your GPU 3 slot?
Wym third slot
your gpu is 5700 XT XFX right?
Yes
thats only a dual slot gpu
but i mean i guess i can cover a pcie slot
even then, that leaves 3 slots
this is how big it is...also im working with a micro mobo i think
do you really need a sound card? and do you really need 2 USB cards?
what do yo use all those for
Okay back up...my motherboard has WiFi and Bluetooth card rn on it...all my usbs are filled so 1 usb card should work....sound card is to make sound better
sound cards are a waste
Ummm
with like, the warranty
I use xbox controller for sound rn
Hey sorry to bother, any recommendations for 80+ Bronze 750 psu?
@scenic lance for what CPU and GPU
I really don’t wanna go through the hassle I just wanna buy a new mobo
Currently have 3600xt. And possibly going for 3070
for what budget momomamo
I have 2 monos rn
i mean like whats ur budget for a new psu
Motherboards rn
Hmm not quite sure. Lets say $140 max
Fractal Design Ion+ 760w
I might not even need 750w
I could go by with 650w
but worth it to get a little extra i guess
Ahh okay
or corsair RM or RMx 750w
Yee thanks
Yams I have 2 gigabyte mobos that both need RMAed
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/gWbwrH/seasonic-focus-gold-750w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-750fm
@scenic lance any of these would be pretty decent
Yams I have 2 gigabyte mobos that both need RMAed
wtf
how and why
Well I didn’t know my motherboard had warranty..bought this motherboard off amazon....but the one mobo the ram slots don’t work on my first mobo
Second mobo the audio ports are shot
oh boy
SeaSonic is probably go to. Thanks!
My warranty is probs expired
ajdnkvjSoefaf
good
do it
for future reference, im gonna say this:
Don't be stupid with your money. Only get what you need. Any more is usually a waste
dont take that the wrong way
No ik what you mean
I just want a mobo that can support 2 GPUs...and you might be like why...I mine with my GPU and it’s not a waste..but with 1 GPU it’s a slow process
mining isnt profitable anymore bruh
Just play minecraft
youre probably losing money paying power bills rather than making any from mining
Make Minecraft map and skinpack and sell on marketplace
if you want to mine, which i have no idea why, actually like, build a mining rig. That would be a lot better than using your gaming PC for such a thing
How I mine isn’t for coins...I mine for money then buy gift cards with the money...last week I got a $10 Amazon gift card
and how much power money did you spend
if you check, itll probably be more than $10
What I’m just saying
Why should I worry about something I don’t pay for
Anywho rn the priority is to RMA the motherboards
Wait yams
who pays for it? your parents?
ok
Can we move to #cpus-mobo-and-memory it’s more better there
My nana Technically
so, you dont pay it but your nana does. So youre making her pay for power while you mine for gift cards
It'd be easier just to ask her to give you a gift card
mm
Yea GPU is big
just double check on the case's website that the clearance is 380mm
indeed
I’ll get this
Big enough to support my ridiculous big gpu
This is my GPU rn
Ehhhhh close fit
whats a good fully modular 650W psu around 100
@hybrid panther
$10 over 100, but you did say around 100
and its semi modular, not full, but thats ok right?
that looks good
sweet
thanks
smart bad
is the lian li 205 a good case, its 69.99 at my local micro center
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZD9J9WS?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 and is this a good case?
Thoughts on rosewill cases?
Lian Li Lancool II mesh or P500A?
I personally love the look of p500a
Yea same
Oh
Ye its a good case for $130
Just hope the notify me notifications pop up and you see it
Hey friends, I’m looking for a new case for whenever I can get a 3080 and I want something I can put soft tube liquid cooling in. My current case is the NZXT S340 Elite. It’s awesome, but can fit a max of 4 fans and it doesn’t have tons of space. I do need whatever case I get to fit 3 HDDs.
s340 is one of my favorite cases from NZXT, they need to bring back the front panel
I like the 4 USB ports a lot lol
P500A has 3 can fit 3 HDDS Can probably support water cooling and is mesh so really good airflow
What brand is it?
Phanteks
I’ve heard good things about them
It just the P500A isn’t in stock right now
Ah, that’s unfortunate. But I’m also not making the move quite yet anyway.
3 left and i think im going to get one
Yeah P500A for a water cooling loop is perfect
Its like 20.10 inches tall so thats should be plenty of room
Good to know. I’ve never tried liquid cooling besides AIOs that I definitely mounted wrong.
Comes in black and white
I’m a bad judge of space so would it be able to fit a custom loop with a full sized ATX motherboard?
Yeah
Awesome
There are some builds on youtube using that case with a custom loop
Good to know, I’ll try to find them later.
My guess is that it’ll be a while which sucks
But the 3080 will be too so I guess it works out
I’m planning to buy the phanteks p600s case for my first build.
Honestly those look well made
I heard the p500a has problems with dust
Its got problems with stock
What’s people’s thought on the Corsair 4000d airflow
Looks fine, should be good to add another 2 fans or so.
This case is difficult to set up due to poor instructions. But the final result is great
Yep its an open air case
Those rods don’t align perfectly with the glass. I’m a little annoyed. I plan to use it as a hybrid test bench. I’ve yet to figure out how I can tweak them
I’d like to find a nice cover for my psu. A mild RGB tint would be ok. If you guys know of any lemme know.
Just a flat plate would work.
Heyy what do you guys think of the Cooler Master Masterwatt semi-fanless psu’s?
So just go for that. Nothing else?
i mean
if u have personal preference
then u do u
but the rmx is a good choice for pretty much everyone
unless u want like 1200w
RMx is amazing for its price
Rmx are sold out all the time
Yeah im trying to get one
I know Seasonic is good too
Yep
But just trying to find reviews on other brands
Ah okay
Or I might settle for an RMx 850
Go 1000w
Why?
Very expensive lol
Nice
Still can’t decide what gpu to go for
wuts ur gpu budget
Get the RMx from Best Buy
yeah 2060s is good
I just got one from there they are in stock for $145. Unless you don’t live near one
Yeah that was my dilemma
I don’t know if they are in stock at my best buy
Wait for 3070 is probably better option
Or get EVGA and do step up like I did
But I also needed a PC now so I couldn’t wait for a 30 series
honestly most 20series cards arent gonna be bought unless ppl want budget
Yeahh but we’ll see. If i go for 3070 i might as well go for 1440p gaming at least
I got the EVGA 2070 super FTW3 and it runs most 1440p games at ultra
Usually 100+ FPS
Exactly
if u want to only do 1080p
But I am going to use step up for the 3070 or 3080 just to get the newer card
i mean 1080
You think 2000 series is gonna go down in price or just phased out
honestly 1660 super is good enough
i mean some ppl r still gonna buy
so i think ill go down in price
I’ll wait for it. 2060 super is more than enough for 1080p
yea
no real pc needs 1000w
Ampere would like a word
Forky, Hedt would like a word with you
lmaooo I got a 850w and thats considered more than you need for a 3080 but its still cutting it close
Question: (gimme a sec to compile the info)
Intel Core i7 10700 2.90GHz (4.80GHz Turbo Boost), 8-Core 16-Thread
ASUS DUAL NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB EVO V2 OC Edition
ASUS TUF GAMING B460-PRO
SSD HD
and the power supply is 600W
80 Plus Gold
I was looking on some build sites and they are saying that this needs 550W, but would recommend 700W.
Is it still going to be OK to use a 600W PSU?
Like, would I need a bigger PSU if I was planning on overclocking this?
You should be fine with 600w.
Ok, thank you for that. Just wondering what the reason for a site to recommend 700W is. I am not savvy enough to understand I guess
Yeah, you can go to newegg psu calculator too, and it says you should be alright as well
2060 is pretty low power and the 10700 is a locked chip
you're fine
although there is a 750w seasonic on amazon for 99
so there is that option
@mellow agate long story short on the PSU recommendation number: Not all power supplies are made the same. The recommendation has to account for that.
Oh ok, gotcha. Well it's a prebuilt off Newegg's site, so I was planning on trusting the prebuilt. I was just verifying before I purchased and ended up here asking that question.
you certain you dont want to build it yourself instead @mellow agate ?
Yeah, its definitely a good learning experince to learn to build it yourself
Just ordered this to build my daughter her first pc for her 12th bday.
Yeah, its definitely a good learning experince to learn to build it yourself
@strong yacht not to mention it’s fun!
@mellow agate not to mention it's usually cheaper :)
Your daughter will be so happy.
Nice looking case
Nice looking case
@unreal garden thanks. Wanted to get the mesh front version but they’re out of stock. Going to be a very simple build anyway, thermals shouldn’t be an issue
i was actually looking at that exact same case, except pink to build one for my siser. it seems pretty nice, shame it doesnt come with any fans though
Any recommendations for something similar to the Phanteks p500a? Mesh front panel and space for a 360mm aio up top are mainly what I'm looking for. I'd almost rather have no PSU shroud as well.
not sure about top radiator size, but Lian-li lancool 2 mesh
@young osprey only 280mm top supported
@solemn pond td500 mesh is the only one I can think of. O11 maybe but that's a different style.
i was actually looking at that exact same case, except pink to build one for my siser. it seems pretty nice, shame it doesnt come with any fans though
@compact prawn I just did a case swap from my thermaltake v200 and I stripped the fans and fan controller off it and tossed the case as it was damaged. I’ve got some other random fans laying around as well
ah then you are set
does anyone here know a good 4 pin rgb hub that can support 6 fans?
Anyone know of any good/reliable power supply's at $120 or under?
@queen falcon for what CPU + GPU?
ryzen 5 3600 and anything from a 1660ti to a 2070 super, I dont know yet
so like 500-750w
both are good, not as good as the one i posted tho
instead of an MWE gold, get a CS650 or smth if you wanna stay on the more budget side
*CX
rmx is better
yes thats also true
someone just told me in another chat that they think the mwe would be better but tbh i dont know much so i have no idea
and nowadays for some reason RMx sells for less than RM
RM is 100% better than MWE
i mean, not 100 percent better
but im 100% sure its better
yep RMx is gnagsta
ok thanks!
np
What is the difference between RM and RMx?
Aight thanks
RMx has better caps
I am looking into a new case. I need one that has two 5.25" bays. or one that has one 5.25" plus a hotswap bay. I was thinking about the Phanteks Enthoo Pro Series PH-ES614P_BK Black Steel / Plastic. Does anyone have any suggestions? also note that my budget in the the $100 or under range.
Anybody know if this is a sticker that you can rip off?
Can someone help me out I have a next h510i and I’m looking for at least a good 800w
And recommended ones
Try Corsair or seasonic @frozen olive
@solar mango cover it with a white acrylic piece or something
Jesus, 3000w
https://www.ebay.com/i/183443139392?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=183443139392&targetid=935431405613&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9012681&poi=&campaignid=10900797557&mkgroupid=110139032071&rlsatarget=aud-649939740844:pla-935431405613&abcId=9300403&merchantid=119025125&gclid=CjwKCAjw_NX7BRA1EiwA2dpg0qCHlHXwLW0ecJpEIjZdbROAMgZFNnfA-iO1XP50LKiXPjCUvF5CthoCoz4QAvD_BwE you’ll have to wait on someone else’s response lol, highest I can find is 2000w
NZXT tweeted making fun of their cases and poor airflow and when responding to people made it seem like they still dont care 
Thoughts?
ARESGAME Power Supply 500W 80+ Bronze Certified PSU https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CXVKP3M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_YCZDFbRGQPGJV
What’s the difference between the 2 amazon ones
I think it’s the fans of you can see that
@silver dagger hey you there
The 99$ one, but im not really sure what the difference is
yeah might be.. they look a little different
What does the detailed product description say lower down?
Do you really want a case that blocks air for its front fans?
Also, difference might be in the tempered glass? One looks darker than the other
nah, looks like the fans are a little different
both say 12v RGB fans, so not ARGB (but the photos look like argb)
either way, i still think theyre ugly
yes, and that awesome air blocking front glass panel to choke off your four fans
i like the 2x rear exhaust tho
the extra fan on the front and back compared to like 3 front and one back ruins it for me
Anyone have a case with 360mm radiator support on top
And comes with fans and has good airflow
Under 140
What do u guys think about NZXT 710i?
How good is the air flow in there??
I’m planning to put asus b550 e mono with ryzen 9 3950x and a 3080
P500A is $120 and is spacey has lots of room @fickle forge
Or $130 just out of stock currently
And can mount a 360mm on top
I was originally gonna get p500a
but costs a lot
also the one ur talking about is the one with no rgb right @pliant cypress
Wait nvm
You said under $140?
nvm
@waxen oak you doing LN2 OC on a dual GPU setup? Or running 6x 3090s + OCed 3990x?
How many fans do you need in an airflow case?
20
Can anybody recommend a PSU for the MSI MEG X570 ACE Gaming Motherboard
what's your gpu/cpu
what's a good ATX case for the $60-100 price range?
@heavy carbon just gotta say, PSU doesn't care about your motherboard.
Also that's a pretty overkill mobo just for a 3600 lol
@scenic lance mx330-g air for the lower end, TD500 mesh for 100$.
idk im still deciding parts i might go for a cheaper mobo or a better processor
@heavy carbon the new Ryzen processors are coming so just wait a bit
Also you should be set with like a 650w PSU
Perfect thanks.
@heavy carbon not just any 650w though, you want a good 650w
Fractal Design Ion+ 660w is like $120 rn. That’d be good.
yeah id rather get an mid priced one that lasts then a cheap one that short-circuits and sets on fire
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9g6qqs/pny-geforce-rtx-3080-10-gb-xlr8-gaming-revel-epic-x-rgb-video-card-vcg308010tfxppb the 3080 is in stock here but do pny make good cards
anyone's got a nice case <100$ ?
Phanteks should have some cases for cheap I think @scenic lance
I don’t know. Sucking in air from the side might not be enough for that case
dont bypass the filter
its there for a reason
yeah, front intake lookin a little weak, but its not like your parts are gonna cook in there
expect temps to be like 10-15C higher max
@surreal magnet man I hate your profile pic
kekw
@surreal magnet what do you recommend ?
well, for starters, a cheaper motherboard
less than 120$
nonsense
LOL
Yup
this an one ugly mobo
So what
i think it looks fine
It's 70$ shaved off
@elfin trout I'm joking
don't take me too seriously
I mean
wifi 5
is wifi 5 really good enough ?
wifi 6 isnt even in use in most places





