#cases-psu-and-cooling | Newegg | Page 32

winged geyser Mar 1, 2020, 10:04 PM

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P400A

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P300A mesh

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Meshify C

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NR600

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Mx330-g

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Zalman s2

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Zalman s3

vague hatch Mar 1, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Cause my old Corsair case from 2015 is starting to break down

winged geyser Mar 1, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Cooler master H500 (not the NZXT one)

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those are pretty much the best

elfin trout Mar 1, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Coolermaster H500 is great

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Coolermaster TD500, though not reviewed yet by GN, just looks great imo

winged geyser Mar 1, 2020, 10:06 PM

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ignore cases like ones from NZXT and Lian Li, theu are typiaclly either overhyped or have ehh airflow

vague hatch Mar 1, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Ok so now I'm going to ask the dumb question

elfin trout Mar 1, 2020, 10:06 PM

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yea NZXT cases usually have bad airflow

vague hatch Mar 1, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Any good cases that aren't over 100 usd?

winged geyser Mar 1, 2020, 10:06 PM

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P400A

elfin trout Mar 1, 2020, 10:06 PM

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That isn't a dumb question

vague hatch Mar 1, 2020, 10:06 PM

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It isn't?

elfin trout Mar 1, 2020, 10:06 PM

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P400A looks great, good airflow, and under 100USD

winged geyser Mar 1, 2020, 10:06 PM

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P400A is the go to choice

drifting sonnet Mar 1, 2020, 10:07 PM

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good cases under 100 is a spectacular question imo

winged geyser Mar 1, 2020, 10:07 PM

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good cable management

elfin trout Mar 1, 2020, 10:07 PM

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winged geyser Mar 1, 2020, 10:07 PM

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GREAT airflow

drifting sonnet Mar 1, 2020, 10:07 PM

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nice

vague hatch Mar 1, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Huh, that's not too bad

elfin trout Mar 1, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Didn't GN rate it as the case of the year or smth?

winged geyser Mar 1, 2020, 10:07 PM

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@elfin trout @vague hatch lemme pull up the GN specs

vague hatch Mar 1, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Definitely better than my $40 case from 2015

winged geyser Mar 1, 2020, 10:08 PM

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as someone who owns 2 of them and a meshify C, I canm tell you that the Meshify C is harder to cable manage but feels slightly more sturdy in terms of construction

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while coming with less stock fans

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not looking good with any RGB

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otherwise really similar cases

tender root Mar 1, 2020, 10:26 PM

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@vague hatch there are no stupid questions, only silly answers.

winged geyser Mar 1, 2020, 10:27 PM

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oh trust me there are stupid questions

tender root Mar 1, 2020, 10:31 PM

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no, there really isnt

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because no-one is forced to answer :) [edit: to]

winged geyser Mar 1, 2020, 10:32 PM

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that doesnt make the question less stupid

lofty pewter Mar 1, 2020, 10:32 PM

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I mean to be fair, depends on your definition of forced. If someone has a gun to your head and "forces" you to answer it else you die. technically is forcing you to do it

winged geyser Mar 1, 2020, 10:33 PM

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just cause you dont answer the question doesnt mean the question isnt stupid

tender root Mar 1, 2020, 10:33 PM

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a question can seem silly, but it is never stupid

winged geyser Mar 1, 2020, 10:33 PM

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what is my name?

tender root Mar 1, 2020, 10:34 PM

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for you to know and me not to worry about

winged geyser Mar 1, 2020, 10:34 PM

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damn I both asked a stupid question AND you gave a stupid answer

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epic

tender root Mar 1, 2020, 10:34 PM

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i gave a silly answer [edit: gave]

winged geyser Mar 1, 2020, 10:35 PM

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you seem like you SPECIFICALLY have a problem with the word stupid

tender root Mar 1, 2020, 10:36 PM

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people are afraid to "appear" like they dont know something

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and that is not a helpful attitude to encourage in any setting

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doubly so in a community that is intended to help people with their problems

winged geyser Mar 1, 2020, 10:38 PM

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sometimes you need to knock someone own before you can help them rise back up

tender root Mar 1, 2020, 10:39 PM

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if you are in a physical meeting with them. I would agree.

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but text communication like what discord is. Has the inherent problem of lacking context for what is being said. [edit: -a]

ornate jay Mar 2, 2020, 2:07 AM

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@lofty pewter psu question:
Seasonic Focus Plus 550 Gold vs EVGA SuperNOVA 550 GM

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wait nvm one is sfx

winged geyser Mar 2, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Focus plus gold

lofty pewter Mar 2, 2020, 3:16 AM

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I mean focus plus does have pretty high overload voltage ripple

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higher then what'd be acceptable

tender root Mar 2, 2020, 3:21 AM

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focus plus = not something you should choose

ornate jay Mar 2, 2020, 3:44 AM

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Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold

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Is that one better?

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EVGA SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold

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Or that one?

vocal talon Mar 2, 2020, 3:46 AM

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RM

winged geyser Mar 2, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Focus plus is DEFINITELY something to conisder

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idk what Naed is reffering to

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ripple is there

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as is a bit of fan noise

tender root Mar 2, 2020, 3:59 AM

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and why would you choose that when there are other options that dont have that?

elfin trout Mar 2, 2020, 12:49 PM

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G3 is not preferred

latent light Mar 2, 2020, 4:24 PM

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I have the new Lancool 2 as my current case with aircooling. I'm planning to upgrade to water cooling soon and I'm debating whether to upgrade to the o11 dynamic or stick with the Lancool 2

candid moth Mar 2, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Specs?

latent light Mar 2, 2020, 4:26 PM

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My system doesn't need water cooling. Per se. My temps are around 60° under load

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Just wondering build experience between the two since the Lancool 2 looks cramped

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Also looking for a case to house a system I would upgrade down the line to high end rig. Mine currently is a 1k PC (3600 + 5700XT)

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So when I upgrade eventually IDK if I should change to O11 anyways

candid moth Mar 2, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Why watercool then? Upgrade components instead

latent light Mar 2, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Cuz I want to?

candid moth Mar 2, 2020, 4:29 PM

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It will not increase performance, but ive heard the lancool II is very good for watercooling

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At its price

latent light Mar 2, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Yes I know it doesn't increase performance lol

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I'm just diving into being a PC enthusiast and want to try water cooling

candid moth Mar 2, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Have at it

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But yeah, lancool 2 had great watercooling compatibility iirc

limpid knoll Mar 3, 2020, 3:29 AM

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People have recommended me the bitfenix whisper m. But pc part picker says it doesn't have the extra 4pin power connector to aid OC

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Worth?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d6cVf9

System Builder

lofty pewter Mar 3, 2020, 3:35 AM

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yeah. The extra 4 pin on the mobo is pure marketing for "better stability in OCing". But I mean, the 8 pin supplies 300w of power by ATX spec which no AM4 CPU takes unless LN2 OCed

elfin trout Mar 3, 2020, 3:35 AM

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3200mhz ram on a 3700x?

lofty pewter Mar 3, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Get one of these two. Both are b die so good freq and timings (one needs to be OCed tho)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YH2rxr/gskill-memory-f43000c14d32gvk
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dMjWGX/gskill-tridentz-rgb-series-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c17d-32gtzr

limpid knoll Mar 3, 2020, 7:42 PM

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@lofty pewter @elfin trout fell asleep mb

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Idek what b die is

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Oh yeah the 3200mhz was a bit of a mistake

lofty pewter Mar 3, 2020, 8:19 PM

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@limpid knoll It's a type of memory die. Think of it like what kind of capacitors are in a PSU and who are they made from

limpid knoll Mar 3, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Ehhh sure

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So wdym by one needs to be OC?

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Can't I allow XMP 1:1 3600mhz maybe 3700mhz+ and leggo?

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@lofty pewter

lofty pewter Mar 3, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Well if you looked one of them that I linked was 3000MT/s instead of the 3600MT/s. It can get it easily but needs to be OCed. The other one is already set to 3600MT/s but its timings need to be adjusted as they are set rather high for what a b-die can do

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@limpid knoll

limpid knoll Mar 3, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Ah

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Im curious as to how you know they are b dies

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I'll probably watch some YT on it.

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I'm not doubting u. On the contrary I'm trynna learn about this useful stuff

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:3 much thx

lofty pewter Mar 3, 2020, 8:50 PM

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@limpid knoll To find b dies it'd just be better to use a site. This one is easier to use, there is also a source link with a lot more info at the top-ish paragraph for this site
https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

limpid knoll Mar 3, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Oksh

fluid flower Mar 3, 2020, 10:47 PM

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why would cm sell the nr600 for $0?

candid moth Mar 3, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Error

fluid flower Mar 3, 2020, 10:47 PM

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but if everyone order til oos

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then do they fulfill

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or cancel

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they have to fulfill right?

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@candid moth

candid moth Mar 3, 2020, 10:48 PM

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But when its in stock it wont be free

fluid flower Mar 3, 2020, 10:50 PM

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it was free though @candid moth

candid moth Mar 3, 2020, 10:51 PM

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But was it in stock?

fluid flower Mar 3, 2020, 11:54 PM

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yea

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@candid moth it was in stock til around 1:31

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1:41*

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or 4 hours ago

tender root Mar 4, 2020, 3:04 AM

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there are about 20 legal ways for them to get around that, and that is the ones i can think up in about 5 minutes

flat eagle Mar 4, 2020, 10:58 AM

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https://www.techpowerup.com/264473/seasonic-rolls-out-its-first-connect-750w-power-supply

TechPowerUp

Seasonic Rolls Out its First Connect 750W Power Supply

Way back in Computex 2019, Seasonic showed us the Connect, a concept PC power-supply that greatly de-clutters your build's power cabling spaghetti by introducing the Connect device. This is essentially a power connector spinal back-plane that runs along the height of your towe...

sacred latch Mar 4, 2020, 11:29 AM

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now just need a case that it click or locks into

candid moth Mar 4, 2020, 11:44 AM

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Lol ye

ruby prairie Mar 4, 2020, 3:04 PM

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That PSU looks like a fire hazard @flat eagle

elfin trout Mar 4, 2020, 3:04 PM

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?

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why do you think that?

candid moth Mar 4, 2020, 3:05 PM

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thats actually really smart

lofty pewter Mar 4, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Cables are too short and the actual bar seems quite bulky for most cases, also long. Probs should've been split to two bars. As for fire hazard there seems to be enough cables at an okay thickness for them to be okay. PSU is from Seasonic so I doubt it'd be horrible in actual PSU quality

plucky creek Mar 4, 2020, 6:16 PM

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any case recommendations? i need a case that has at least 170mm cpu cooler headroom or more, decent/good airflow, and a glass sidepanel

candid moth Mar 4, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Why so much?

plucky creek Mar 4, 2020, 6:17 PM

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i have a big cooler

candid moth Mar 4, 2020, 6:18 PM

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D15?

plucky creek Mar 4, 2020, 6:18 PM

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yes

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chromax black

candid moth Mar 4, 2020, 6:18 PM

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It will fit the td500

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It will fit in the td500*

plucky creek Mar 4, 2020, 6:20 PM

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its not in stock here @candid moth

obtuse hill Mar 4, 2020, 7:37 PM

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does newegg stock or sell the new NZXT H1? I can currently only find it on nzxt's website

elfin trout Mar 4, 2020, 7:44 PM

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@plucky creek what about the coolermaster H500

plucky creek Mar 4, 2020, 8:05 PM

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yes, its in stock

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the h500p is in stock too

elfin trout Mar 4, 2020, 8:25 PM

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whichever is cheaper

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the H500 is a really nice airflow case

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and enough clearance for d15 iirc

plucky creek Mar 4, 2020, 8:27 PM

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yeah i want some more room for the cooler though since i may have to put one of the fans higher

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so i'll go for the more expensive h500p, which is just a bit bigger

trail plank Mar 6, 2020, 4:54 AM

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any reccomendations for a build that has a ryzen 5 2600 and a gtx 980?

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because right now my psu has cables that look like ketchup and mustard

drifting sonnet Mar 6, 2020, 5:16 AM

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why those specs?

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oh wait

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you want a PSU for those

midnight dirge Mar 6, 2020, 9:46 PM

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my computer is telling me that my smart device 2 is having OCP and that i should check mg fan, what should i do?

scenic lance Mar 8, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Whats a good cheap pc case with rgb fans dm or @ me pls

hushed yoke Mar 8, 2020, 4:33 AM

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last warning @scenic lance, if i see it pasted again im going to ban for not following what i said

scenic lance Mar 8, 2020, 4:33 AM

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I came here

hushed yoke Mar 8, 2020, 4:33 AM

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i know

scenic lance Mar 8, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Its pasted because i dont want to type it since im on mobile i apologize

hushed yoke Mar 8, 2020, 4:34 AM

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thats fine, but im just saying youve already sent it 3 times in general. Just trying to make sure it doesnt get too spam-ish.

scenic lance Mar 8, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Sorry i apologize im not trying to spam its just there are alot of knowledgable people in this server so i wanted to see if one of them knew a case that is not to expensive and comes with rgb fans

hushed yoke Mar 8, 2020, 4:39 AM

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check out the coolermaster mb520

scenic lance Mar 8, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Thank you

fast onyx Mar 8, 2020, 3:43 PM

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I am looking to upgrade/update my home-built computer. I have a case which I don't see a reason to replace, Thermaltake Wing Rs, and I am looking for AMD motherboards that will fit in it. Any and all suggestions are appreciated.

vocal tree Mar 8, 2020, 3:50 PM

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what case form factor is it?

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I'm gonna make a wild guess and say it's micro atx

faint solstice Mar 8, 2020, 5:41 PM

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@fast onyx what cpu do you plan on getting?

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Also I'm going to assume its am4 not tr

vocal talon Mar 8, 2020, 5:42 PM

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might be am3+ but probably am4

faint solstice Mar 8, 2020, 5:44 PM

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And what budget for the mobo

deft wind Mar 8, 2020, 8:20 PM

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any recommendations on a good chassis (with good airflow and quiet) for a dual gpu build

fast onyx Mar 9, 2020, 12:44 PM

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@vocal tree and @faint solstice , it's an atx form factor case. As to my budget, I'm just starting to look and would want the best amd CPU I can afford!

vocal tree Mar 9, 2020, 12:50 PM

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I would personally want to buy an early Ryzen 5, 1600 or something going for roughly 100 USD, 6c12t and I'd be happy with that

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Ryzen 7 is big bucks, and Ryzen 3 doesn't offer me enough compared to what I already have, but if Ryzen 3 is an upgrade from what you previously used, you could potentially go for it.

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I'm also not convinced by 4c8t Ryzen 5s, because I have a 4c8t i7-4790

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So what CPU do you have currently/did you have before? For gauging perspective

surreal magnet Mar 9, 2020, 6:33 PM

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https://www.pcworld.com/article/3518831/how-intels-changing-the-future-of-power-supplies-with-its-atx12vo-spec.html

PCWorld

How Intel is changing the future of power supplies with its ATX12VO...

Intel's new ATX12VO spec eliminates 3.3-volt and 5-volt rails and rejiggers the balance of power in future PCs.

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Finally

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I hope this spec is adopted by all PC component manufacturers

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Within the next 10 years I would bet

elfin trout Mar 9, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Interesting

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I don't understand like any of that, I gotta read up on differences between 12v and 5v and what PSUs use what

lofty pewter Mar 9, 2020, 7:44 PM

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It's not removing the source, just moving it to the mobo. Which means you now have another power thing to worry about on quality and cooling for the mobo. If done right then it's a good change. But it feel sketch for being done right and ultimately feels like it'll just be more annoying to deal with

surreal magnet Mar 9, 2020, 7:47 PM

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i mean, theres a ton of voltage regulation on motherboards now anyway

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not much is changing tbh

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sure, another spot that needs heatsinks

lofty pewter Mar 9, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Also, they say it'll be more efficient, but you're just moving the transformer to a worse position for it to truely be more efficient. Less cooling and space while needing to be setup in a way to be safe due to being on a mobo

surreal magnet Mar 9, 2020, 7:48 PM

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10 pins vs 24 pins is already a good enough benefit to make this worth it lmao

lofty pewter Mar 9, 2020, 7:50 PM

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They're only a few voltage regulators that are the main ones so to speak. CPU/RAM VRMs

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The rest are generally never needed to be worried about as they are consistent across the board and are made for that board specifically

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Now we're just adding the ones to be worried about to the mobo. Now to mention it doesn't say anything about powering say SSDs or HDDs and whether cabling is going to be more annoying or the same as what it is now

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Whether we could have more or bigger cables connected to the mobo effectively making cable management harder

surreal magnet Mar 9, 2020, 7:52 PM

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would be nice if we just used one voltage across the board

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make other components use 12v

lofty pewter Mar 9, 2020, 7:53 PM

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That won't really happen. Take USBs, 5v

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3.3v might, just might, be able to go

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But doubt it

surreal magnet Mar 9, 2020, 7:53 PM

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well, considering this is mostly for OEM systems for now

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its should be fine

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for now

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if it ends up working out nicely, then maybe we will see it become the new normal

lofty pewter Mar 9, 2020, 7:59 PM

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If things go well it'd be a nice change. But I get the feeling it'll just make things more annoying to deal with for the exception of niche cases

hushed sparrow Mar 9, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Hey I am asking for a friend but what is the general thoughts about the Corsair CC-9011048-WW?

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https://www.newegg.com/arctic-white-corsair-carbide-series-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811139032

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He is looking to get it used for around 60$ (With the 4 fans that came with included)

flat eagle Mar 10, 2020, 12:47 AM

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for 60 bucks and fans? that's a good deal

hushed sparrow Mar 10, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Thanks for the thoughts! @flat eagle

flat eagle Mar 10, 2020, 12:49 AM

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of course there are better cases out there, but if its in relatively good condition, I'd be all over that.

winged geyser Mar 10, 2020, 4:36 AM

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@surreal magnet yeah no

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that spec is utter cancer for every single consumer

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on the planet

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the fact you actively WANT it shows you may be sligjtly illiterate

surreal magnet Mar 10, 2020, 4:37 AM

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explain

winged geyser Mar 10, 2020, 4:37 AM

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You are giving motherboard vendors another thing to mark up on

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another change in compatability

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with virtually 0 gains

surreal magnet Mar 10, 2020, 4:38 AM

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not really

winged geyser Mar 10, 2020, 4:38 AM

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I read that article a few months back. In reality the format is 1) not being adopted, and 2) cancer for consumers

surreal magnet Mar 10, 2020, 4:39 AM

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i understand it might not be adopted, intel writes up lots of things

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but it exists now, and if it is used in OEM pcs, thats fine

winged geyser Mar 10, 2020, 4:39 AM

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@surreal magnet would you rather the opinion come from the likes of Stefan Payne, Luke savenjie or JohnnyG? Maybe even PSUGuru or eBastler? we all agree on the same thing

surreal magnet Mar 10, 2020, 4:39 AM

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never heard of em

winged geyser Mar 10, 2020, 4:39 AM

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...

surreal magnet Mar 10, 2020, 4:39 AM

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i would like all OEM psus to be identical

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that would be nice

winged geyser Mar 10, 2020, 4:39 AM

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why?

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https://www.jonnyguru.com/

JonnyGURU.com

Tazz

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Jonny Guru

surreal magnet Mar 10, 2020, 4:40 AM

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because they arent standardised

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and its annoying

winged geyser Mar 10, 2020, 4:40 AM

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https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

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some of the other ones I mentioned

surreal magnet Mar 10, 2020, 4:41 AM

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ok

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do you remember the last time the PSU spec changed?

winged geyser Mar 10, 2020, 4:42 AM

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yes

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I do

surreal magnet Mar 10, 2020, 4:42 AM

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for a few years, both psu plugs were included on most boards

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then poof

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20 pin took over

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this has the potential to be the same thing

winged geyser Mar 10, 2020, 4:43 AM

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1995

surreal magnet Mar 10, 2020, 4:43 AM

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its no big deal

winged geyser Mar 10, 2020, 4:43 AM

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anyways

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except for that fact that ATX12VO offers no real advantages

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with the adverse affects of supporting corporate greed

surreal magnet Mar 10, 2020, 4:43 AM

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not really

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what $5 more?

tender root Mar 10, 2020, 4:49 AM

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eh, you are both fairly wrong about when the psu specs was last changed

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the last attempt that was made, was in .. 2003-ish

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the btx standard

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yes, btx is more or less confined to OEM systems

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doesnt mean it doesnt make sense for that market segment

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which btw, is a LOT bigger than the market you are both making a bunch of noise about

surreal magnet Mar 10, 2020, 4:51 AM

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idrc he @ me

tender root Mar 10, 2020, 4:52 AM

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also, the proposed spec by intel makes a bunch of sense from the OEM pov of intel

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and i can easily see the OEM's being all over this

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@winged geyser also, it is very bad form to call people names and throw random insults at people, just because you dont agree with them about something.

teal walrus Mar 10, 2020, 6:06 AM

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I turned on my pc and my PSU fan started rattling (making noises pretty much). I turned it off then turned it back on and it didn’t rattle. Should I still be worried?

empty ember Mar 10, 2020, 2:21 PM

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well yeah?

golden kestrel Mar 11, 2020, 12:43 AM

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What's the best and cheapest mATX case rn. Doesn't need any rgb but a psu shroud would be nice

tender root Mar 11, 2020, 12:44 AM

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@golden kestrel Fractal Design Define Mini C

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not the absolutely cheapest

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but it is very nice to build in

golden kestrel Mar 11, 2020, 12:48 AM

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I'

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I've heard good things about fractal design but i did kinda want a side panel

tender root Mar 11, 2020, 12:49 AM

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https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/define/define-mini-c-tempered-glass/black/ <- you mean like that?

Fractal Design

Define Mini C Tempered Glass — Fractal Design

golden kestrel Mar 11, 2020, 12:50 AM

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still 90 bucks tho

tender root Mar 11, 2020, 12:51 AM

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yes, quality costs money

golden kestrel Mar 11, 2020, 12:51 AM

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I plan on selling it so quality isnt my first pick 😂

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I'm going to put my old components in it

tender root Mar 11, 2020, 12:52 AM

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then one of the focus G mini variants

golden kestrel Mar 11, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Ya those don't have a psu shroud tho

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ik im being picky

tender root Mar 11, 2020, 12:54 AM

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i know

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nothing new there @golden kestrel :P

golden kestrel Mar 11, 2020, 12:54 AM

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lol

golden kestrel Mar 11, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Now for a psu question. This is my old psu. I've never heard of it but it never gave me issues. Is it reusable you think?

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tender root Mar 11, 2020, 1:18 AM

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i would not

golden kestrel Mar 11, 2020, 1:22 AM

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alright thx that was my guess

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So just throw it away then?

lofty pewter Mar 11, 2020, 1:26 AM

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I mean isnt Delta fairly reputable brand tho?

surreal magnet Mar 11, 2020, 1:29 AM

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yeah, i could see this psu being used in a system that draws like 350w

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the thing isnt gonna blow up, but it isnt the most efficient, and you def wanna run it under its rated capacity

golden kestrel Mar 11, 2020, 1:30 AM

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for sure

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wanna year something scary?

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hear

surreal magnet Mar 11, 2020, 1:31 AM

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spook me

lofty pewter Mar 11, 2020, 1:31 AM

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tbh it should be fine at the 450w range

golden kestrel Mar 11, 2020, 1:31 AM

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I did some overclocking on it in my old hot box case.

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Im ashamed of it

lofty pewter Mar 11, 2020, 1:32 AM

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still trying to find proper info on it, but Delta being one of the best PSU makers out there I dont expect it to be horrible, at worst subpar is my expectations

golden kestrel Mar 11, 2020, 1:32 AM

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so not worth trashing then. I think i'm gonna take my old components and make a built with it then. Very low power draw build

tender root Mar 11, 2020, 1:36 AM

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@lofty pewter delta as brand is generally okay, the problem is age and lack of info

golden kestrel Mar 11, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Is there Any other info i can give you?

tender root Mar 11, 2020, 1:37 AM

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lack of info on the specific unit etc

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not something you can supply @golden kestrel

golden kestrel Mar 11, 2020, 1:37 AM

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alright fair enough

lofty pewter Mar 11, 2020, 1:54 AM

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couldnt find much of anything on its quality. Tho considering it's from Delta and used as OEM it's a pretty low risk gamble

golden kestrel Mar 11, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Ya it came in my pre-built

hushed sparrow Mar 11, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Another Question I am asking for a friend: What is the general thoughts on used power supplies? What would be considered a safe or worth buy? And lastly what efficiency standard (Bronze, Gold, Plat, ect) would be recommended for this type of buy? His build is looking something like an AMD Ryzen 3700x with and X570 board and 1 hard drive, an SSD, 16gb of 3200 speed ram, with hopefully the next generation of Nvidia Graphic cards.

lofty pewter Mar 11, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Used PSUs are a bit sketch due to not knowing what the actual condition is of it. You just have to go off the word of the seller. Which considering a PSU failure can cause a fire, kill computer components, just be a large paper weight, etc then it can be quite the gamble to take. Sure you can probably return the PSU if it is a lemon; but what about the rest of the dead PC? I'd take the word from an actual seller who is large and well known for them to know whether it is new/used but truly good condition.
As for PSU quality that depends on model. Wattage, efficiency standard, modular/non-modular, and whether it's from EVGA/Corsair/Seasonic/etc doesnt mean it'll be good. All PSU brands have at least one not so great model out there. Some even being dangerous (like Thermaltake Smart PSUs) due to being so poor

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For how much wattage is needed, rarely over 550w. A good 550w PSU can handle a stock 3950x and 2080Ti quite easily.

nocturne geode Mar 11, 2020, 10:42 AM

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Anyone know when the H1 case from NZXT will become available? I can't seem to find it anywhere besides their website

candid moth Mar 11, 2020, 11:51 AM

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@nocturne geode check if it says on the websiye

vocal tree Mar 11, 2020, 11:33 PM

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You could always use the PSU's fan 👀

woven solar Mar 12, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Hi

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i am here seeking help on choosing a case

native verge Mar 12, 2020, 3:29 AM

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1404160-REG/cougar_mx330_mid_tower_gaming_computer.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=CjwKCAjwmKLzBRBeEiwACCVihvkDz57y0b1VC3pR2eeYUo5Z3ruF-YaQ4nc7iPDhq2H2YvePEzgpBxoC-vQQAvD_BwE

COUGAR MX330 Mid-Tower Case

Buy COUGAR MX330 Mid-Tower Case featuring ATX, Micro-ATX, & Mini-ITX Support, 1 x 5.25" Drive Bay, 2 x 3.5" Drive Bays, 2 x 2.5" Drive Bays, 7 x Expansion Slots, 2 x USB 3.0 & 2.0, Audio In/Out, 1 x 120mm Fan Included, Acrylic Side Panel, Supports Liquid Cooling Systems. Revie...

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there you are my friend

faint solstice Mar 12, 2020, 4:54 AM

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@woven solar what budget and form factor?

final bone Mar 14, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Question about the corsair 680x crystal case....my front three fans arent lighting up, but there are 3 cables that came with the case that arent wired. The PC build is up and running beautifully, however the sata and two usb looking cables are not hooked up. Where do these go?

fringe granite Mar 14, 2020, 8:33 PM

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hey guys, i have a regular corsair carbide 275r case, any way i can buy just the front panel of the airflow version?

vocal talon Mar 14, 2020, 8:37 PM

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probably not unless you find somebody selling it or a broken case that u can salvage it from

fringe granite Mar 14, 2020, 8:39 PM

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im going to ask corsair if they're willing to sell me the panel lol

open gate Mar 15, 2020, 2:55 AM

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Anyone know any good RGB white case?

cold moon Mar 15, 2020, 3:22 AM

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I would recommend the phanteks p400 white case

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I just helped my bestfriend build his rig last night and he has that case

golden kestrel Mar 15, 2020, 2:02 PM

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The td500 mesh in white is one of the best atx cases rn imo. And its beautiful

elfin trout Mar 15, 2020, 2:13 PM

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One of the best looking I agree with
(while still having pretty good airflow)

teal walrus Mar 15, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Is it bad if my PSU fan is rattling?

flat eagle Mar 15, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Yeah.

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rattling or clicking?

teal walrus Mar 15, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Rattling

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Sometimes it doesn’t rattle

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Idk if I should still be worried tho

pliant bridge Mar 15, 2020, 3:04 PM

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bad

teal walrus Mar 15, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Ok

golden kestrel Mar 15, 2020, 3:20 PM

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I said one of the best because of the sufficient airflow, tempered glass, psu shroud, 4 pre-installed fans, and sufficient watercooling support.

open gate Mar 15, 2020, 3:39 PM

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@golden kestrel yeah but they delayed the td500 mesh by two months

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feels bad

golden kestrel Mar 15, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Oh they did...

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That sucks

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When it releases I'm going to try to get a mesh panel for my current td500

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If its even compatible. They might of changed it slightly so you can't do that

open gate Mar 15, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Should I wait two months or cancel the preorder and get an already existing case?

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@golden kestrel mostly likely that wont work

golden kestrel Mar 15, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Why do you think so @open gate

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But if you don't want to wait there's also the cooler master master case h500

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Little more expensive but killer air cooling

open gate Mar 15, 2020, 5:35 PM

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But its not white

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and mesh is expensive

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Oh well..I'll wait

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Can't find a white case I like 😠

golden kestrel Mar 15, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Ok fair enough. I forgot about the white aspect

candid moth Mar 15, 2020, 7:35 PM

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@open gate td500 or p400a

open gate Mar 15, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Td500 sucks

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but p400a

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Mmmm

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Its all about airflow

faint solstice Mar 15, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Ya p400a or meshify c

golden kestrel Mar 15, 2020, 11:11 PM

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They make the meshify c in white so if you're willing to add some fans that'll be a good choice

open gate Mar 16, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Mmmmmm

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Mmmmm

open gate Mar 16, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Ik what case to get now...

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phanteks 600s

grim linden Mar 16, 2020, 6:58 AM

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Meshify c I would LOVE to get but it’s just a hair too small to fit my 300 something mm gpu plus fans maybe an AIO rad. Meshify S2 is too long and is meant for custom loop

willow hollow Mar 16, 2020, 6:23 PM

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what type of case would be good for a 1600AF and 1660S?

open gate Mar 16, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Any ATX case

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Even iTX

willow hollow Mar 16, 2020, 6:26 PM

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is microatx enough?

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or do i need bigger

open gate Mar 16, 2020, 6:26 PM

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If you want good thermals get ATX

willow hollow Mar 16, 2020, 6:27 PM

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can u recommend me a good budget case?

open gate Mar 16, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Looking

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https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-meshify-c-mini-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352086

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Here you go

willow hollow Mar 16, 2020, 6:32 PM

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ty!

floral marsh Mar 16, 2020, 8:07 PM

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EVGA 500w bronze or Corsair CX450M?

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there's one dollar diference rn

scenic lance Mar 16, 2020, 8:22 PM

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evga

lofty pewter Mar 16, 2020, 11:33 PM

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EVGA what? N1, BR, BQ, B3, BT, BV, etc?

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because 99% of EVGA bronze PSUs are pretty bad for the price (and some are just outright horrible no matter the price) and CXM has coil whine. Just get Corsair CX non M

golden kestrel Mar 16, 2020, 11:44 PM

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I have the cxm and have never noticed any coil wine but my other fans are decently loud so maybe It just gets blocked out by them

tender root Mar 16, 2020, 11:44 PM

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or, as we have talked about before @golden kestrel, you got really lucky

golden kestrel Mar 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Could be that too

cursive loom Mar 17, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Best case that comes with fans for up to $100, aaaand go!

golden kestrel Mar 17, 2020, 1:39 AM

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I've said it once ill say it again. If your willing to wait for its release the cooler master td500 mesh is a great pick

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If you don't want to wait the fractal design meshify c is a great pick as well but it only comes with 1 intake and 1 exhaust fan though it does have support for more.

open gate Mar 17, 2020, 1:50 AM

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TOO LATE

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I ordered the phantek 600s

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I canceled the td500

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they say two months but it might get delayed again

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not taking the chance

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The case of made in China so RIP

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Phanteck comes with 2 intakes 1 exhaust

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but sadly

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No rgb

golden kestrel Mar 17, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Nooooo

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You were the chosen one!

open gate Mar 17, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Yeah

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Just....end me right here and now

golden kestrel Mar 17, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Its all good

cursive loom Mar 17, 2020, 2:15 AM

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How many fans can either hold? @golden kestrel @open gate

I found a rather good deal on 12 120 fans for $60

golden kestrel Mar 17, 2020, 2:18 AM

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The td500 mesh comes with 4 and you can put 2 additional ones assuming that you don't play on putting an aio on the top of the case

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12 fans is definitely more than either case can hold tho

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And I could be wrong but I believe the meshify c can hold 4 more but one is blocked by the psu shroud so three would be enough

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If your looking for a case that can hold 12 fans tho you'll need to ask someone else

faint solstice Mar 17, 2020, 3:56 AM

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@cursive loom p400a digital comes with 4 fans, 3 of which are rgb if you want that

cursive loom Mar 17, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Whats the difference between a p400 and p400A?

open gate Mar 17, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Mmmmm

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Ik

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The p400 has almost no airflow while the p400a has plenty. The A stands for airflow

cursive loom Mar 17, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Aaah

candid moth Mar 17, 2020, 8:06 AM

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@open gate no lol

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A is for ARGB

candid moth Mar 17, 2020, 8:21 AM

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The its name is the p400 mesh

open gate Mar 17, 2020, 3:15 PM

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@candid moth WRONG

candid moth Mar 17, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Ok buddy

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You ready to write that essay? @open gate

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Minimum is 20 words

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Max is 40

open gate Mar 17, 2020, 3:29 PM

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tranquil badge Mar 19, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Is the diy bg01 any good?

ocean estuary Mar 20, 2020, 2:48 AM

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anyone know of any cases around $70 that is mid tower, had decent airflow, and has no panel with glass or anything

hushed yoke Mar 20, 2020, 2:51 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-meshify-c-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352085?Description=fractal design meshify c&cm_re=fractal_design_meshify_c-_-11-352-085-_-Product

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a tad over 70

golden kestrel Mar 20, 2020, 3:25 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/arctic-white-be-quiet-pure-base-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-0037-00066?&quicklink=true

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Little over on price again but very low profile

frozen rampart Mar 20, 2020, 4:36 PM

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whats the best case yall

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phanteck p400 or somethign like that?

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dont answer all at once

open gate Mar 20, 2020, 4:47 PM

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P400a

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but

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Phanteck 600s

golden kestrel Mar 20, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Or cooler master h500 if your fine with big cases

open gate Mar 20, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Yeah

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great case

frozen rampart Mar 20, 2020, 5:07 PM

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thanks

drifting gorge Mar 22, 2020, 11:57 AM

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does the nzxt h210i have good airflow? cant find any information (maybe im just dumb)

vocal talon Mar 22, 2020, 2:29 PM

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the gpu gets choked if it’s air cooled and you have a atx psu

proper shore Mar 23, 2020, 3:41 AM

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hey guys im new here

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and i have a question

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i have a ASROCK B450PRO4 mother board, what case should i get for it? i got the Vision 2-BL and it didnt fit

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 3:48 AM

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what do you mean: didnt fit?

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@proper shore

proper shore Mar 23, 2020, 3:57 AM

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@tender root i treid to put it in the case and it didnt line up with the stand offs

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 4:07 AM

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move the stand-offs then

proper shore Mar 23, 2020, 4:21 AM

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what tool to use

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 4:23 AM

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just regular pliers

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they are normally not that hard to unscrew

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if in doubt, send a picture

proper shore Mar 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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i used them but the stand offs didnt move

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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send a picture please.

proper shore Mar 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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got ya hold on

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give me 10 min

proper shore Mar 23, 2020, 4:45 AM

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about to send the picture

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Ok so they are not Leting me send photos

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 5:04 AM

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@tacit wren could you fix the permissions for @native cobalt so he can post pictures here?

tacit wren Mar 23, 2020, 5:04 AM

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done

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 5:04 AM

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thank you @tacit wren :)

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Thank you

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 5:04 AM

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i will repost the other 2 you sent to me @native cobalt

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 5:04 AM

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tender root Mar 23, 2020, 5:04 AM

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nvm :) you are already on it :)

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Guys, I found out my problem

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It was the io shield it was sticking out to much

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 5:12 AM

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ah, you hadnt pressed it completely in?

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Yeah, let me show you a picture tho

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 5:13 AM

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please do :)

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 5:13 AM

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By the way let me thank you @tender root

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It’s 1 13 in the morning and your helping me

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 5:14 AM

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its 06:14 here :D

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in the morning :D

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but, you are very welcome :)

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 5:14 AM

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I’m sorry

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 5:15 AM

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i dont know what you are sorry about :)

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and in the picture, i am guessing it was the upper part that was hard to push in?

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Yes!

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 5:17 AM

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its the bent steel that has a high variance, so dont feel bad about having trouble with it

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but please remember that you need to screw in at least 2 more nipples for the bottom of the mainboard

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Got ya thanks again, I might still need help with the power supply, if you can’t tell this is my first time building a computer

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 5:20 AM

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just ask :)

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and please remember, there are no stupid questions, only silly answers.

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Lol thank you this stopped me for a bit

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Now I can keep going

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 5:27 AM

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:)

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Got it in

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Now I need help with the power supply

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 6:21 AM

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you also need to put in the screws :)

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 6:23 AM

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Which ones?

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 6:24 AM

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based on that picture, it looks like you didnt put in the ones that connect to the nipples

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 6:25 AM

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You mean these?

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tender root Mar 23, 2020, 6:25 AM

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ah, your case came with black screws, that is fairly uncommon

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your first picture was just grainy enough that i couldnt see them :)

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so, as long as you have made certain that you have put the required ones in, then all is good :)

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you had a question about your psu?

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 6:28 AM

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I need guidance tbh

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 6:29 AM

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ask and i will try to answer

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Should I install my graphics card first

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 6:30 AM

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GPU is one of the last things that go in

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Ok cool so let’s do the power supply

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 6:32 AM

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ask away :)

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 6:34 AM

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What wires go where

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tender root Mar 23, 2020, 6:35 AM

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that is fairly simple

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but it might be easier if we do a video call, instead of sending a bunch of pictures back and forth

native cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 6:35 AM

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Ok hold on

tender root Mar 23, 2020, 6:36 AM

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let me just grab my phone too :)

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okay, you can just call me when you are ready

jovial grail Mar 23, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Is it worth it to get a 80+ gold for 20 dollars
Or just save that 20 dollars and get a 80+ bronze

tacit wren Mar 23, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Gold

lofty pewter Mar 23, 2020, 12:08 PM

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@jovial grail gold/bronze rating mean little

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Some bronze can easily beat out a gold

drifting sonnet Mar 23, 2020, 1:21 PM

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honestly you want a good power supply before you worry about the 80+ rating

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can't be efficient if it shorts out and fries your pc ;)

jovial grail Mar 23, 2020, 10:49 PM

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this are the psu

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the difference is 20 dollars

elfin trout Mar 23, 2020, 11:13 PM

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go RM

lofty pewter Mar 23, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Also 750w is overkill for 99.999% of people

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as most people dont even need 550w let alone 750w

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Like, to give perspective on what a 550w PSU can run, that'd be a stock 3950x and 2080Ti

umbral crest Mar 24, 2020, 5:12 AM

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i have a 400w

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kinda wish i paid the extra for 430w

lofty pewter Mar 24, 2020, 8:41 AM

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400w to 430w is very little difference to worry about

glacial needle Mar 24, 2020, 11:53 PM

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I need a cheap, smallish microatx case, preferable with a window but not required, and preferably silver. any recs?

faint solstice Mar 25, 2020, 2:06 AM

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how do you like the focus g? the window is acrylic tho

glacial needle Mar 25, 2020, 3:08 AM

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focus G is okay but im looking for more of a cheap but sleek case for a hackintosh build lol

vocal tree Mar 25, 2020, 8:02 AM

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The Versa H18 is black, has tempered glass side panel and fully open front panel ventilation

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I want it but I'm not building a computer yet :>

teal walrus Mar 25, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Is there a difference between itx and mini itx cases/motherboards?

hushed yoke Mar 25, 2020, 8:09 PM

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if i remember correctly itx is just a shorter way of saying mitx

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or, mini itx

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better ask @vocal talon

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lol

tender root Mar 25, 2020, 8:10 PM

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@teal walrus there is not

vocal talon Mar 25, 2020, 8:14 PM

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yeah they’re the same

wispy warren Mar 25, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Why are there like no reviews of th nouvolo steck?

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I'd figure optimum tech would have reviewed it but surprisingly he hasn't

tender root Mar 25, 2020, 10:41 PM

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based on what i know about it, it is fairly pricy

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meaning, a niche of a niche of a product

wispy warren Mar 25, 2020, 10:42 PM

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But the other similar alternatives are even pricier

tender root Mar 25, 2020, 10:42 PM

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yes/no

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they are imo quite late to the market

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look back on when dan case was launched

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and the one that came from the hardocp forum (which i cant remember the name of, ncase?)

wispy warren Mar 25, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Ncase m1?

tender root Mar 25, 2020, 10:44 PM

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yes

wispy warren Mar 25, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Those are all like $100 more expensive

tender root Mar 25, 2020, 10:45 PM

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yes, but they got there first, by a number of years

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which means that the niche has that much less traction

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a LOT of the quirky itx builders stick with their cases for a LONG time

wispy warren Mar 25, 2020, 10:46 PM

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I see

tender root Mar 25, 2020, 10:46 PM

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because their quirky builds cost a bunch on the case side of things

wispy warren Mar 25, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Yeah that makes sense

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Can't wait to get the nouvolo steck

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Much cheaper and basically the same as the ghost s1

tender root Mar 25, 2020, 10:46 PM

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i have a old (by todays measure) FT03-mini with a bunch of custom work, which if you measured the value would be 3-4 times the cost of the case

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mind, it is gathering dust at the moment

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but that case got reused for a number of builds after i got done with it

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because it was "exactly" what i wanted from a case

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sidenote, if you want a fascinating read (and it is a very long read), have a look at the ncase m1 thread on the hardocp forum

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most of what they could show the public is available there

wispy warren Mar 25, 2020, 10:48 PM

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o

tender root Mar 25, 2020, 10:48 PM

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and it is an interesting look into the mindset of a bunch of itx nutcases :)

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to be clear, i have a lot of respect for what they did with their product

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it is not for me personally, but i still have respect for them for what they did.

wispy warren Mar 25, 2020, 10:50 PM

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U think I could trade a 2700x for a 3600?

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I think 2700x might be a bit much for itx

hushed yoke Mar 25, 2020, 10:52 PM

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if you can cool it, then its no problem

tender root Mar 25, 2020, 10:53 PM

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2700x is trivial to cool

surreal magnet Mar 26, 2020, 12:53 AM

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so yall know how the lian li 011 dynamic has fan mounts on the motherboard tray? well im looking for a case like that, but only with 2 120mm fan mounts, not three

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wondering if anyone just randomly happens to know of one

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omg

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that looks sick

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seriously limits your cpu cooler options tho

grim linden Mar 26, 2020, 2:39 AM

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@surreal magnet

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Lol

surreal magnet Mar 26, 2020, 2:42 AM

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It's perfect

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Where the PSU go tho

worldly dust Mar 26, 2020, 2:46 AM

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LOL thats awesome where is the PSU

surreal magnet Mar 26, 2020, 2:55 AM

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It's an sfx in the back

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So I gotta find an sfx PSU with dual 8 pin CPU connectors somehow

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Fantastic, I gotta buy a $180 PSU lol

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Of course, I don't even know how much this case is gonna cost.

worldly dust Mar 26, 2020, 3:06 AM

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sneaky

vocal talon Mar 26, 2020, 3:49 AM

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@wispy warren you can easily cool a 3950x in the right itx cases like M1, sidearm T1, TU150, H210, ghost S1

grim linden Mar 26, 2020, 3:57 AM

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@surreal magnet It isnt out yet but May should release under $100 apparently

molten haven Mar 26, 2020, 2:59 PM

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what you guys think about this case
MSI MAG FORGE 101M Tempered Glass RGB USB 3.2 Mid Tower

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comparing with mb511 which one you would select?

teal walrus Mar 26, 2020, 4:20 PM

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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-600w-atx-12v-eps-12v-80-plus-power-supply-black/8511029.p?skuId=8511029 should I get this PSU?

tender root Mar 26, 2020, 4:22 PM

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that is a very bad psu @teal walrus

teal walrus Mar 26, 2020, 4:22 PM

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:/

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my budget is $70 but from best buy

glacial needle Mar 26, 2020, 4:25 PM

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why from best buy?

tender root Mar 26, 2020, 4:27 PM

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@teal walrus you will have to ask @lofty pewter real nicely if he wants to have a look there for you. We are talking about the US best buy right?

teal walrus Mar 26, 2020, 4:27 PM

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yes

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and from best buy because I'm using a gift card from there

glacial needle Mar 26, 2020, 4:32 PM

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this is the only one on the best buy website under 70 that I can see, that isnt horrible. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/thermaltake-smart-bx1-650w-atx12v-2-3-eps12v-2-92-80-plus-bronze-power-supply-black/6339093.p?skuId=6339093

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its tier C, so not great but not bad

teal walrus Mar 26, 2020, 4:43 PM

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I'm gonna be running a ryzen 5 1600 af + GTX 1650 Super

sharp fox Mar 26, 2020, 4:47 PM

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lol

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I've seen a few decent PSUs at best buy before, can't find on the website tho

glacial needle Mar 26, 2020, 4:50 PM

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theres some decent ones there but theyre higher htan his budget lol.

teal walrus Mar 26, 2020, 4:50 PM

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unfortunetly

golden kestrel Mar 26, 2020, 5:42 PM

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I bought my corsair cx650m from there

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Wasn't my best decision I've ever made but I didn't know much back then

lofty pewter Mar 26, 2020, 6:54 PM

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I'd suggest putting that bestbuy card to an SSD or smth and get a better PSU deal else where

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That or putting a bit of cash on the table as well as the card. Thus increasing the PSU budget

hot lily Mar 28, 2020, 4:03 AM

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CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply & New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready https://www.newegg.com/product/N82E16817139005?m_ver=1

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so I've got one of those. is it actually possible that I could just keep that if I were to upgrade in 2020

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one of the reviews says hes using a 2700x with it

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I was thinking a 2600 or 3600

vocal talon Mar 28, 2020, 4:23 AM

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just looking quickly at it, looks like a solid psu, shouldnt be a problem keeping it

hot lily Mar 28, 2020, 4:25 AM

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sweet. might as well give it a try and hope it works then I guess

vocal talon Mar 28, 2020, 4:26 AM

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yeah shouldnt have a problem unless something major happened to it

hot lily Mar 28, 2020, 4:39 AM

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yeah, I don't think so. it seems to be working OK as far as I can tell. might be time to upgrade from my phenom II 965 though

lofty pewter Mar 28, 2020, 6:32 AM

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Dont have much time to look over it, tho specs on Newegg has it missing OCP and OTP

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TX Gold is the good quality one. Idk about TX Bronze

elfin trout Mar 28, 2020, 3:32 PM

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CM H500 is a pretty neat case

teal walrus Mar 28, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Is this a good PSU

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surreal magnet Mar 28, 2020, 10:09 PM

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its meh

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depends on the components your trying to run with it

teal walrus Mar 28, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Ryzen 1600 af + 1650 super

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It’s enough wattage but I just need to know if it’s stable and reliable

surreal magnet Mar 28, 2020, 10:15 PM

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im not like super knowledgeable on PSUs

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other people here are tho

tough pebble Mar 29, 2020, 1:07 AM

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My computer restarts itself at random times. I have Windows set to show blue screens instead of automatically restarting, so I'm pretty sure it's a hardware issue. My RAM passed Memtest86, so I'm ruling that out. I'm not sure if it's an issue with my motherboard or the PSU. It's infrequent, and doesn't seem to be related to system load/power draw (Furmark's GPU + CPU stress test ran fine for 40min.)

meager frost Mar 29, 2020, 5:32 AM

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would it be safe to use a 500w (bronze) PSU for a r5 3600 (TDP 65W) and a RTX 2080 super (TDP 250W)? I know it's cutting it close but I don't plan on ocing

tacit wren Mar 29, 2020, 5:33 AM

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It'll probably work, but why not spend an extra $60 on a psu that could last a decade?

meager frost Mar 29, 2020, 5:34 AM

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I have no legitimate argument for that

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looks like I'm buying a psu

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Specifics matter

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Some bronze PSUs are great, some are trash.

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The wattage isn't a big issue, but the quality of the Psu will be

meager frost Mar 29, 2020, 7:02 AM

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oh

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apparently mine is 650

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078HJ2RCW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

lofty pewter Mar 29, 2020, 7:56 AM

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Quality of that PSU is certainly not ideal for a 3600+2080S PC

meager frost Mar 29, 2020, 11:04 AM

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Do you have one you'd recommend? I wouldn't mind going semi modular for a premium if it means cleaning up cable clutter

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 4:34 PM

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@meager frost what would the budget be?

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for the PSU.

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if staying at the about 50$ range, corsair CX series might be good enough

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If going for the 100$ range, something like a Phanteks AMP or a Corsair RMx works.

lofty pewter Mar 29, 2020, 4:39 PM

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CX550 is about $70 now unfortunately

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AMP 550 has kept its $90
Corsair RM has increased its price a little bit iirc

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 4:41 PM

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ah sad

quaint island Mar 29, 2020, 5:39 PM

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I bought a prebuilt a while back and I wanted to change the coolers and fans in the case the only thing is that the cable management is horrible. Should i just move everything into a new case or try and fix the cable management. Everything is connected through endless extension cables and the psu is semi modulr

glacial needle Mar 29, 2020, 6:07 PM

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you could just try to redo the cable management inside of that case if you want to

alpine fox Mar 29, 2020, 6:22 PM

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So, does anyone have recommendations on cases that are $100 dollars or less?

pure torrent Mar 29, 2020, 6:24 PM

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What features are you looking for the case to have? (i.e. airflow, supported rad size for liquid cooling, supported motherboard sizes, etc)

alpine fox Mar 29, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Well, probably an ATX mid tower if possible. I'm sort of wary of the super small form factors. I don't want something that will fry my components with terrible airflow. Looking at going AMD for processor, because they run a little cheaper.

pure torrent Mar 29, 2020, 6:30 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/fractal-design-meshify-c-white-tg-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352087?&quicklink=true

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Phanteks P400a

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Coolermaster H500

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Coolermaster TD500

pure torrent Mar 29, 2020, 6:35 PM

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I agree with Mr1111's suggestions as well. I especially like the H500 because of the 200mm fans 🙂

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https://www.newegg.com/gunmetal-cooler-master-mastercase-h500-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119350?Description=coolermaster h500&cm_re=coolermaster_h500-_-11-119-350-_-Product&quicklink=true

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It does however look to be a little above your price range (at least on Newegg)

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 6:41 PM

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those 200mms looks great imo, but some don't like it :p

pure torrent Mar 29, 2020, 6:46 PM

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I'm using a HAF932 case. The 200mm fans and the fact that is was designed for airflow where the main reasons I chose it. Larger fans = greater airflow at lower RPMs = Quieter

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 6:51 PM

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I really want a h500, chilling on a focus g rn

pure torrent Mar 29, 2020, 6:52 PM

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I'll probably use an H500 for my next build. I'm trying to stretch the use of my old i7-960 build till I have the money for the new one

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 6:53 PM

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tho some other brand could also make an even better case with 200mms by the time we upgrade

mental canopy Mar 29, 2020, 6:54 PM

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the h500 has poor thermals

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 6:54 PM

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It actually has great thermals last I checked

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coolermaster h500

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not nzxt

mental canopy Mar 29, 2020, 6:54 PM

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oh

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ok

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well then ya

pure torrent Mar 29, 2020, 6:55 PM

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I could see how the NZXT has poor airflow

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 6:58 PM

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most nzxt cases have bad airflow according to ppl

pure torrent Mar 29, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Their cases do look nice but I like my airflow. Cooler Master all the way 😉

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Well, the first h500-some suffix did have bad airflow due to no mesh panel

quick mountain Mar 29, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Hi guys
Im looking to change cases what could possibly be a good case for aio liquid cooling
Im using a atx motherboard

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Most cases works

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Whats your budget?

quick mountain Mar 29, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Around 100 - 200

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Then you have a huge selection of cases that you could use

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the Coolermaster H500 is a nice case with a lot of space for rads and such

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but theres also other kinds of looks you can get at that price

quick mountain Mar 29, 2020, 7:22 PM

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I just checked. Yea its nice

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But im broadening my options lol

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Other usual suggestions include Phanteks P400a, Coolermaster TD500, Frctal design meshify c

quick mountain Mar 29, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Ohh a lot of peeps have been recommending phanteks p400

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Those cases are recommended because of good airflow, specific radiator options wise, you might need to check them

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yea the p400a has really good airflow, and looks good in most people's opinions

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GN gave it the case of the year for 2019

quick mountain Mar 29, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Oh really. Ill be sure to check it out

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 7:25 PM

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📎 iu.png

quick mountain Mar 29, 2020, 7:25 PM

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I dislike my case rn

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Its silverstone primera pm01

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Here for example is a case torture test with a bunch of cases from GN

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P400a is pretty high up there

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with the h500 too

quick mountain Mar 29, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Idk. Feels like not much of a good case for me? I have trouble with the cables haha

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 7:26 PM

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(H500 with no prefix, that one costs a lot cheaper than the H500p)

quick mountain Mar 29, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Oh

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Thanks for the chart

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 7:27 PM

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yea, theres more with other cases up there that you can find

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Gamersnexus does a lot of case reviews

quick mountain Mar 29, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Great ill check them out

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Thanks!

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 7:27 PM

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You're welcome.

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Oh and also, just a warning, many cases come with 2 panels, one glass for looks, and one mesh for airflow. So H500 mesh and H500 is the same thing. @quick mountain

quick mountain Mar 29, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Thanks for the tip

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 7:32 PM

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You're welcome.

golden kestrel Mar 29, 2020, 11:31 PM

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So I'm not buying it rn but its come to my attention that the corsair cx650m is not exactly the best option I could of picked when buying my psu. If I were to upgrade to a 2070s or 2080s in the future would I need to upgrade my psu also? Thx

lofty pewter Mar 29, 2020, 11:33 PM

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If it's grey/black labeled CXM then the worst that can happen is coil whine

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if green, then I'd replace it

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(easy difference between 2012 and 2015 CXM)

golden kestrel Mar 29, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Its grey

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What's wrong with the green one?

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This is it. I didn't pay that much

📎 Screenshot_20200329-193628_Best_Buy.jpg

elfin trout Mar 29, 2020, 11:37 PM

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green is 2012 I think

golden kestrel Mar 29, 2020, 11:38 PM

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I bought it in like Nov last year

lofty pewter Mar 30, 2020, 12:17 AM

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green is old so its lifespan would probably be nearing its end, while also having some issues with protections iirc

bleak basin Mar 30, 2020, 2:50 AM

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what's the best 1440p gaming monitor ?

golden kestrel Mar 30, 2020, 2:50 AM

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#old-monitors-and-tv

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 6:19 AM

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So I'm looking for a reliable semi modular psu in the 90$ or below range at a minimum of 600w, does anyone have any recommendations?

scenic lance Mar 30, 2020, 12:37 PM

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I've had good experience with EVGA and Corsair PSUs
https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007657 600479295 600029977 600315663 50001402 50001459 600553801&LeftPriceRange=0 100

lofty pewter Mar 30, 2020, 1:38 PM

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@meager frost there aren't any decent semi modular PSUs for the price. Only decent PSUs for their price are non modular and fully modular. Phanteks AMP 550w is about $95 or so

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 2:16 PM

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okay

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budget notwithstanding

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06W51YGX5/?SubscriptionId=AKIAIGIKPS7N7DIKIGVQ&tag=xov-20&linkCode=xm2&th=1 would this be an option worth considering?

golden kestrel Mar 30, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Is your system going to merit that?

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 2:21 PM

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r5 3600 and a rtx 2080s driving 4 monitors, doing some math and using some online tools it seems like 580-590 is the minimum I should get, and I do plan to overclock the 2080s just a bit

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also got 4 HDDs and 2 SSDs

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although getting rid of one of the HDDs when i rebuild this thing, I'm pretty sure it's dying

vocal tree Mar 30, 2020, 2:24 PM

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check it out in Crystal Diskmark

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or if it's going clicky clacky, then go off of that and get rid of it lol

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 2:25 PM

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yeah CD is showing really slow read speeds

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like <50kbps

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It was an old HDD I snagged out of a prebuilt so no real loss

vocal tree Mar 30, 2020, 2:27 PM

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hehe

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 2:27 PM

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is there a psu you would say better suits that system? I don't mind going non-modular but I would rather minimize cable clutter if possible

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let me link a full parts list rq

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jagerpup/saved/#view=WpYRTW

Saved Part Lists

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:34 PM

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AMP

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and hello Jager, werent we supposed to talk about something monitor related the other day?

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 2:35 PM

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ye I pinged you but I think you were offline

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:35 PM

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aye, internet has been all kinds of bonkers on my end recently

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Works kinda fine now but my 144hz display is locked at 60 rn, which isn't the end of the world, but annoying

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:36 PM

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it was the whole "different refresh rates on monitor" thing right?

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and that is a perfect example of internet being weird :D

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your message above arrived a good minute or two after i had typed my question :D

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 2:39 PM

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lol

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:39 PM

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lets fix your PSU question first

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y3bCmG/phanteks-amp-550-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p550g_us01 <- that one can handle what you are trying to do without a problem

Phanteks AMP 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

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and yes, i know you keep saying "minimum 600w"

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what do you think you need that for?

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 2:44 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

Tenor

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Honestly, I just did some math on my head and used a few calculators online to help figure out a good theoretical max load on the system, and gave it about 100W headroom to be safe

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:44 PM

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the 550 is plenty

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 2:45 PM

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gocha

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:45 PM

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the list you linked: you dont own any of it or?

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 2:45 PM

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I own all except the GPU at the moment

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:45 PM

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oki

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so, gpu + psu is what is being pondered?

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 2:46 PM

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currently rocking an OC 1660s

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correct

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I currently have this

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078HJ2RCW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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but I've been told this one can be unreliable

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:48 PM

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aye

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZQMfDx <- i would recommend using a list like this :)

System Builder

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gives a bit more clear picture of what you are asking about :)

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 2:50 PM

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I would keep the psu you have personally unless it is causing problems. Perhaps it will fail perhaps it wont. Either way it most likely wont hurt anything if it dies.

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 2:51 PM

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hmm

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:51 PM

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I will happily admit i am not a fan of corsair psus

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 2:51 PM

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me either really

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:51 PM

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with that put aside

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 2:51 PM

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perhaps just keep it on my shortlist in the event it fails, then go for that one if that were to happen?

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 2:51 PM

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had two fail on me

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but it was a simple matter of replacing when dead

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:52 PM

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i am very much aware of statistics

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and the one part i dont like playing the numbers game with, is the psu

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because depending on how it decides to belly-up

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it takes the other parts with it

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 2:53 PM

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it can but I would say from personal experience and what I've seen its unlikely to hurt anything but it certainly could

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:54 PM

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and yes, i know, it is unlikely to happen that way

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it is very much only my personal view/take on it that i am talking about here

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Im a "if it ain't broke dont fix it" kind of guy lol

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:56 PM

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aye aye :) and that is 100% fair

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there is a very specific reason that i only use seasonic units in my own builds

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 2:57 PM

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I also have best buy less than 5 miles from my house and they have PSUs and price match so that does help

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:57 PM

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and the AMP is the only exception (but it is seasonic that makes that too)

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 2:58 PM

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seasonic makes great PSUs

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:58 PM

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they also make crap units

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 2:58 PM

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they all do

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:58 PM

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oh yes :)

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which is something i would truly enjoy IF people (in general) could actually remember/understand

vocal tree Mar 30, 2020, 2:59 PM

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I am curious, what kind of OEM PSUs are good?

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 2:59 PM

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chinese brands you've never heard of are the scariest

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 2:59 PM

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oh hold on

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let me show you something terrifying

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 2:59 PM

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technically any manufacturer can be considered an OEM @vocal tree

vocal tree Mar 30, 2020, 3:00 PM

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okay okay xd

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 3:00 PM

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oh wait, I threw it away

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 3:00 PM

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@vocal tree if it has a 24pin and more than one 8pin your doing pretty good

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 3:00 PM

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my old psu from my prebuilt back in 2013

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it was scary to turn on

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it's the reason I build my pcs now

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 3:01 PM

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@vocal tree look at it like this: IF the OEM of the machine/build is willing to give a good warranty, in general, you dont have anything to worry about

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remember, a psu should be one of the longest lasting parts in the machine

vocal tree Mar 30, 2020, 3:02 PM

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what kind of warranty is a good warranty?

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 3:02 PM

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5+ years imo

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this is for the psu alone that is

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there are very few, if any, OEMs in the consumer space that gives 5+ years on the whole machine.

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 3:03 PM

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mine has a 3 year

vocal tree Mar 30, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Lenovo gave 13 months for the computer in 2015

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 3:03 PM

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wot

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that's terrible

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 3:03 PM

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13 months?

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why 13?

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 3:03 PM

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and oddly specific

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 3:04 PM

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why not 14,3 and a bit of change?

vocal tree Mar 30, 2020, 3:04 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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📎 unknown.png

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 3:04 PM

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strange

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 3:04 PM

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hm, actually, that gives them the ability to say (truthfully) 1+ year warranty

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 3:04 PM

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true story lol

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 3:04 PM

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which people will happily assume means 2 years

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 3:06 PM

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I think that's what I'll do then. I'll hang on to this one, and in the event it fails, I can cash in on the extended warranty I got on my other components if they end up damaged

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hopefully that won't happen but /shrug

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 3:07 PM

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IF you do that, do yourself a favour and keep an eye on the extended warranty date

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 3:07 PM

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ye, I got 4 years on my cpu and 3 years on my mobo

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 3:07 PM

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it would not be fun, for you, IF it fails a week after that runs out

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 3:07 PM

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and they're both about 6 months old

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 3:08 PM

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ok :)

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now, personal preference time

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the 2080 Super

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personally, i really like the Gigabyte Windforce cooler

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 3:08 PM

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use a surge protected power strip (they work both ways 😉 )

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 3:08 PM

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big lump of metal, possibility of 3 slow spinning fans

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 3:09 PM

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I've had some unfortunate experiences with gigabyte tbh

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 3:09 PM

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fair enough

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 3:09 PM

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although let's maybe move to #graphics-cards

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 3:09 PM

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nah

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nothing is happening here :)

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 3:09 PM

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true

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 3:09 PM

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so we can just stay

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 3:10 PM

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I've had 2 gigabyte cards now that had fans completely die in less than a year

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 3:10 PM

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EVGA makes good cards

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and have good warranties

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 3:11 PM

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a gtx 1060 and a 1080ti

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 3:11 PM

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your luck is very good Jager :)

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 3:11 PM

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ouch

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 3:11 PM

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just not when it comes to GPU fans

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 3:11 PM

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I've never had a gigabyte gpu

vocal tree Mar 30, 2020, 3:12 PM

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would it be silly to buy a passively cooled gpu and put chassis fans against it? :p

tender root Mar 30, 2020, 3:12 PM

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their windforce cooler was, for a number of years, just about the only solid option if you wanted something that didnt scream like a jet engine

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 3:13 PM

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My computer is actually kept in another room so sound isn't an issue :D

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I have a conduit through my wall that I route cables to my monitors

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I do podcasts so I need to control sound really carefully

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so I installed that and it's no longer something I have to worry about

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 3:15 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-super-08g-p4-3081-kr/p/N82E16814487461?item=N82E16814487461&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-video+card+-+nvidia-_-N82E16814487461&gclid=Cj0KCQjwsYb0BRCOARIsAHbLPhEycyKadh58wOH4px3N-IfcZAYSjKfDOOMMWA7PsjjJYznI-dCcDxEaAhm5EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds this would work but so would the MSI ventus you linked

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also founders are same price coolers are decent and they look cool

meager frost Mar 30, 2020, 3:17 PM

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oh

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I didn't even think about founders

worldly dust Mar 30, 2020, 3:18 PM

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I had good luck with a 2080 fe not the super

lime fog Mar 31, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Anyone, how much power should I get for a ryzen 5 3600 and a gtx 1650 ventus?

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 12:28 AM

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500w should be fine

lime fog Mar 31, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Thx u

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Wattage isn't the only thing to look for tho

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When you come across a candidate send it over so someone who knows more can approve it @lime fog

lime fog Mar 31, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Okay

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It’s a ventus, so it takes less minimum wattage than a normal gtx 1650

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 12:32 AM

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You might want to have a little room for upgrades in the future tho.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y3bCmG/phanteks-amp-550-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p550g_us01

Phanteks AMP 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

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This is a solid option

teal walrus Mar 31, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Do I need to change my cable?

📎 image0.jpg

vocal tree Mar 31, 2020, 5:35 AM

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da_heck

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it should be fine if there's no bare exposed wire

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I think

tacit wren Mar 31, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Those cables are like a $1 a piece - might as well

vocal tree Mar 31, 2020, 5:45 AM

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true

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could chop it up and use it as a grounding mat

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:)

teal walrus Mar 31, 2020, 6:45 AM

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I have other cables like that. Is it normal for a PSU to be exhausting hot air? It’s around the same temperature when you put your hand next to the house heater

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Idk if it’s supposed to be that hot

tacit wren Mar 31, 2020, 6:45 AM

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Unless you have a 1600 watt , low efficiency psu + 4 gpu's etc - no, that doesn't sound norma.

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Specs?

worldly dust Mar 31, 2020, 6:57 AM

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maybe the psu is exhausting hot air from the case by itself

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are other fans blowing air out of the case?

teal walrus Mar 31, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Only one

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It’s a mini itx system

teal walrus Mar 31, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Also should I care about efficiency if I’m not paying for the electricity bill?

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Yes

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Hey @tender root ik your fond of ITX cases so i was curious of what you thought of the nzxt h1. It looks pretty good to me, might put a build in it in the future

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 9:45 PM

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h1 is the tower one right?

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ah yes, it is.

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i am still amused by the fairly blatant copying between the Fortress ft03-mini (and non-mini) from Silverstone

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@golden kestrel

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Ah ok

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 9:48 PM

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let me take a look at the h1 again

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@golden kestrel since you have an interest in it, are you aware of there being a version without the psu and cooler?

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 9:50 PM

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I wasn't

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 9:50 PM

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so, it only comes in the one version?

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psu+cooler included?

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Only think stopping me from making that my next one is I don't have an itx board at the moment

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Oh ya I misunderstood you I apologize

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Yes I dont believe there is a model without the cooler

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 9:52 PM

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that is just silly

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Yes

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 9:52 PM

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because the good thing about the h1 is the flexibility of the case right?

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Its just more money for them

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Yes

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 9:53 PM

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it being able to use upto a ATX psu right?

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 9:53 PM

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I've never been overly fond of nzxt and here is an example why

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I believe it can

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 9:53 PM

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and instead of going with the smallest PSU they could, they go with the middle of the road option

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the SFX-L

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(and yes, i know it sounds like i am just throwing stones at NZXT here)

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Well the stones are slightly merited

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😂

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 9:55 PM

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well, lets try and breakdown the cost of the parts

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 9:58 PM

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I'm kinda busy right now could you do it lol

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 9:58 PM

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we only have the 350usd price on the nzxt page to go by

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a highend silverstone/seasonic SFX 600watt psu is 130-ish usd max

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lets be generous and say that the (absolutely bonkers) price of the kraken x42 is "fair" for the AIO

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that gives us 120 usd for the cooler

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that leaves 100 usd for the case itself

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something does NOT make sense in that calculation imo

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Fair

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I think the market is kinda for enthusiasts that don't care much about price legimaticy

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:03 PM

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the "problem/challenge" with that is the perceived value of nzxt

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i personally dont see them as anything but a budget gaming brand

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:03 PM

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I dont even see them as thag

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That

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Budget is not a word I associate with them

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:03 PM

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their designs have never raised them above that in my mind

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i am not talking about the prices

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Oh

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:04 PM

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those are always up for debate

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its the actual designs of their things

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Ok

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:04 PM

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https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=333 <- try and have a look at this

SilverStone FT03-MINI INTRODUCTION

After releasing the ground breaking Fortress FT03 chassis in 2011, SilverStone engineers took on the challenge of making a smaller version to further increase the appeal of this unique computer form factor. Through intelligent planning and reengineering, the engineers were ab...

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Looks pretty good. I don't think it supports a atx power supply tho

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Not like that's very important tho lol

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:05 PM

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no, because it was not built for that

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it is also an old case

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as in, 8+years

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Ok

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Wow

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:06 PM

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now, look at the h1

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where is the innovation?

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Yep lol

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:07 PM

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and just to be clear, i an NOT saying that every Silverstone case is good (they are NOT)

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I didnt know of that Silverstone case, and I'm sure many first time buyers don't, so to me it looked perfectly unique

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For sure

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:07 PM

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aye, because Silverstone are "odd"

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Ya lol

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:08 PM

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https://images.anandtech.com/doci/5848/Small (5 of 14).jpg

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Whats that?

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:09 PM

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that is the ft03-mini without its sides on

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Ok

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:09 PM

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with its drive cages and slim ODD cages on the table besides it

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Looks slight larger than the h1 imo

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Well thanks for looking at it for me.

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I like to hear your opinion on things

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:12 PM

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if my math is right, the h1 is about 14 litres in volume

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the FT03-mini (with the wings and all that you see above) is 25

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Ok so decently larger but far from a big case

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:13 PM

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a fair amount of that is in the height of it

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actually, let me just recheck

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Ok

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:14 PM

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i am a fool :D

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i checked the wrong tab

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Lol

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:14 PM

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the FT03 mini is 18 litres

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its the successor to it that is 25 litres

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:15 PM

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That sounds right

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:15 PM

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so about 4 more litres

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Not too significant

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:15 PM

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nope

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because, do remember, there is ODD support in the ft03

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Odd meaning?

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Optical Disk Drive

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Ah my bad lol

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:16 PM

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its a fairly old term

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Not exactly a necessity nowadays

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:17 PM

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so not surprising that you dont know it as such

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Yep

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:17 PM

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nope,

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its one of the points where the ft03-mini is showing its age

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Yep

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Ok well I gtg rn. Thx for your input

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:18 PM

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have fun, anytime :)

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:18 PM

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:)

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 10:47 PM

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also @golden kestrel something that is extra silly about the h1 is the IO being downwards facing

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Ya lol I thought that was pretty dumb aswell

teal walrus Mar 31, 2020, 11:07 PM

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My PSU fan is rattling, is it safe to keep it powered on?

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 11:08 PM

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you still have warranty on it?

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if yes, get a RMA process started on it

golden kestrel Mar 31, 2020, 11:30 PM

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I feel like you've asked that before ThinkEgg

tender root Mar 31, 2020, 11:40 PM

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he has @golden kestrel

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first time he talked about rattling was the 10th of march

golden kestrel Apr 1, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Knew it

lime fog Apr 1, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Just a reassurment, is the fractual design G good? I heard it is, but at around 50 USD, it seems unbelieveable with two fans and atx support.

elfin trout Apr 1, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Focus g?

lime fog Apr 1, 2020, 3:17 AM

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yeah

elfin trout Apr 1, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Its good enough

lime fog Apr 1, 2020, 3:17 AM

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okay thanks

hardy ridge Apr 1, 2020, 7:52 PM

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any small form factor matx cases? I like the thermaltake core g3 or v21, but more modern

golden kestrel Apr 1, 2020, 8:24 PM

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I was gonna say define mini c or Masterbox mb311L but some thing happened to the cooler master