#cases-psu-and-cooling
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Alrighty, thnx for the input Felixes. Revo is definitely a solid price for instance. -- oh cheapish good case? Was glancing at meshify C because I like how it's less desk space than some but isn't itx or such
G300a is $60, but will need more fans
C12c 3 pack is $11
I cant think of any decent looking good quality better cases for $71
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HRH7YJ/montech-x3-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-x3-mesh-black this would be ok but I'd spend the $4 more for g300a
I'd say the two best choices would be the g300a with the c12cs, or this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fHXJ7P/cougar-archon-2-mesh-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-cgr-5cc5b-mesh-rgb
G300a definitely better but the $20 difference makes either a fine choice
P200a is also in $70 and fits atx psus I think, but itx case means price for other stuff goes up obviously
Sorry, meant I like that it wasn't itx. edit: oh, G300A seems pretty good for me. Have a few spare P12 fans still, thnx!
Dft is b tier, gf1 is a
It's not because the DF2 is actually b tier unfortunately
A tier unit and decent price
I'm assuming this is where you got the picture from https://www.ebay.com/itm/374891803562?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=0rTdwbCESaO&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Actually not, I found it on another it website for used stuff, apparently the seller is the same. Didn't know it was on eBay too
On the other website it said "mini itx pc case" without any other info
So I think it's the parvus q1 mini-itx
Or maybe not...
It gives me different cases with the same name :/
There's a watermark on the pic the guy sent. I wonder if that ebay listing somehow removed the watermark and is passing it off as their own.
or someone /websote added a watermark, like the website could becalled subto or whatever
So many possibilities.
What is a decent/good case for 60 bucks
G300a, mx330, cougar archon whatever it is that comes with 3 fans
this is my avr
I have a 750w psu
is it okay to plug it in on one of the 220v?
@mild roost
yes
doesn't it make a difference plugging a 750power supply to a 220v?
I also have a 1836 joules surge protector can I plug it in to the avr?
or surge protector to wall and avr to surge protector
modern psus handle all voltages from the mains
so it's not a worry
if you're worried you can check the psu's voltage range
what's good @mild roost wall>avr>surge protector or wall>surge protector>avr
@balmy badge
Wall > Surge Protector > AVR
@delicate eagle unless the AVR has a built in surge protector.. then leave the standalone surge protector out of the equation.
okay thanks
If the dimensions are correct this might be the smallest matx mobo+atx psu case i've seen
https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-006A-000C4
If it comes with fans it's a deal but i dunno if it does
I don't love the look of the corners, a little too industrial for me
If it comes with fans it would be excellent for a budget build
I don't think it does based on the one review, but still a nice price for what it is.
so sometimes when I press the power button of my pc it shocks me but when I touch it later on it dosen't shock me anymore
@mild roost do you know why this happens?
static or ground issue
how do I fix it lol and does it damage my pc or not?
Purchase update, rm850x was on sale & haf xb evo $50 after mir. I like never worrying about cpu cooler or gpu sag, for now.
If you have carpet that'll help build static. 100% a static issue. The PC is connected to ground so that's why you feel that shock, you're actually shocking the PC, not the other way around. Nothing to worry about. I had the same thing when I had carpet in my room
Just copped the Antec Dark League DF800 FLUX in white.
Apevia ATX-PR600W Prestige 600W 80+ Gold Certified, RoHS Compliance, Active PFC ATX Gaming Power Supply https://a.co/d/bBKcito
Did I make a good choice?
Depends on pc
I’m using a GTX 770.
It's more than fine
So good choice?
Cheapest psu right now worth it
So I did a good job picking the best PSU?
not the best out there but it won't blow up
it's not the best, just a good budget choice
I finally did something good for once.
better than ordering a bad psu at least
yeah, I was looking for a budget one for my pc build since the 850w didn’t make sense
it wasn’t my pc to begin with, it was my dads, he was using it for a server/retro gaming pc then just passed it on to me
he was using an RX 6600XT with said PC so that’s why he used a 850w.
850w is overkill for 6600xt tbh
that much power can provide enough power for latest amd cpus on am5 and a 4090
A 6600xt is fine on a 450w easily
yep useful oc testing software
been around for ages in the OC community
https://secure.newegg.com/wishlist/md/3521515 What do ya'll think of this?
That link doesn't work
Ah shoot my bad
I would not buy all of your pc parts off newegg, pcpartpicker shows prices from a lot of different retailers and shows the lowest price for each part
Ah alright
For psu, I'd spend $10 more for this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tWMTwP/cooler-master-mwe-gold-850-v2-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpe-8501-afaag-us
How so?
It's a better psu, there's a tier list pinned in this chat
Oooh
And that case isn't a great idea, cases without a mesh front have bad airflow, but there are cases with a mesh front and no glass panel
One sec I'll link some
Oh ok
I'd get this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KLQcCJ/fractal-design-pop-air-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-poa1a-01
Or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gWFbt6/fractal-design-focus-2-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-foc2a-07
I want a full tower though. I want to upgrade my GPU
What gpu were you planning for?
And I'll look for a different case
Also either of those cases could fit a 4090
RX6700xt. I'm coming from an RX6600 regular
You'd easily fit any model 6700xt in either of those
Alrighty
Not really any decent full tower options without a glass/acrylic side panel
No :(
May I ask why you don't want a glass/acrylic side panel?
I hear they can explode
perhaps if you
Not unless you're extremely clumsy or intentionally shatter it
Even for that first part gl with that one
Hmmm
If you decide you're fine with it and want an ATX full tower case, this one is very nice https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8qFbt6/fractal-design-pop-xl-air-atx-full-tower-case-fd-c-por1x-06
For mid tower there's plenty of options that will fit literally any gpu too
I'm a fan of the g360a personally
So wait those stories about glass panels exploding are due to carelessness/quality?
Carelessness yes
Yeah reddit is an awful place to go for tech advice/stories 99% of the time
I might go with the fractal air mid tower for budget reasons
For budget you could go for the g300a with a 3 pack of c12c fans for $12
But that's on the smaller end of mid tower
So I can understand wanting a bigger case than that
G300a after the fans comes to $62
I want a more "future proof" build. Hence the case size and PSU wattage
Are you buying anything else, aside from those two and gpu?
No
Then you're all set
So the fractal air and PSU are fine for that?
Yep for sure
Nice
Future proofing isn't a real thing, but the closest you can get to future proofing is on psu and case
Exactly
Potentially $5 more for this psu https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CFbCmG/adata-xpg-core-reactor-850-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-corereactor850g-bkcus
I just get so tired of switching out PSUs often
Well, I went from a 450w to a 550w psu
I know the 7600(xt) is compatible with my psu but I want something significantly better
If you're buying a 6700xt I wouldn't upgrade from that for anything less than a 6950xt/7900xt/3090/ti/4070 ti
And tbh those really aren't a worthwhile upgrade
I'd prob wait till next gen or 4080/7900xtx
So just stay with the 6600 regular then?
Ah of course
Just since you mentioned 7600/xt
An xt version doesn't exist for that card my bad
It likely won't, the die in the 7600 is the full Navi 33 die (I think that's the one that's 7600? Don't quote me on that)
Hmm
I have though about upgrading my cpu but that's another convo to be had here #cpus-mobo-and-memory
I wonder if there are cases that are good with carpets?
the case that you put on a desk is always good with carpets
Yeah carpets kinda suck for pcs no matter the case
Good to know
Why should I choose that PSU over the Coolermaster PSU?
What model is the coolermaster
It's a better psu, handles transient loads better mainly, but they're both A tier
Either one would run a 4090
That's great but I don't want a 4090
Besides the point, it's a better PSU, better value, for slight price increase
Though considering you're going for a "future proof" psu
It might be worth going for one with a native 12vphwr connector, I dont know if future gens will still be good with an adapter
Screw future proofing tbh, I want past proofing, so my computer doesn't get the plague or get stuck in an ice age
Thats valid
To me, future proofing means running the same computer for a decade or so, rather than switching platforms
Because switching platforms resets the clock, doesn't count as the same system to be "future proofed"
This looks so odd https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Mini-ITX-Computer-Pre-Installed-CA-1X9-00S1WN-00/dp/B0C7SJVFVH/?
The Tower 200 is a mini-ITX case with a vertical case design that offers fantastic viewing. It comes with two pre-installed CT140 fans, each 140mm wide, for exceptional thermal efficiency. Also, the Tower 200 can accommodate a 4090 GPU, a standard-size power supply up to 220mm, and a 280mm radiat...
But lowkey looks like it'd be good
Probably About as odd as the other towers
Sarcasm?
yes
lololol
About the Fractal Pop Air case. I have an MSI 7390 gaming plus motherboard and I was wondering about a usb-c adapter or if a certain part is needed?
My case arrived a week early hell yeah
I mean you can get a usb 2/3 to usb c internal adapter, if you have any of those to spare on amazon for under 15$ I'd say, although you don't need to, you can just leave it as a not working port if you want
Do I need to get PSU cable extentions? Like if I didn't need them before would I need them now when placing my parts in the new case?
They're purely aesthetic
Ok
Looks really nice
Bad news is I need an extension cable for one of its fans but yep
@fierce pivot May I steal about 5 minutes of your time?
Go for it
Been looking at the Matrexx 40
Their site says 320mm GPUs
and I'm wondering if a Hellhound 6700XT would fit (cuz damn this case I have right now is really bugging the hell out of me)
like it makes me physically uncomfortable
Budget for case?
right around 20k HUF
which that Matrexx would fit perfectly AND have 3 included fans
Are there other options? The matrexx 40 mesh is OK, just not the best
As long as it's the mesh though it's fine
it is
Around that price though it's probably the best you'll get
and again it has 3 fans included AND fits the budget
I need mesh front and the ability to fit my GPU
Then go for it, biggest thing to care about is airflow and that case is alright
(Hellhound 6700XT)
You can google the length, I'd be extremely suprised if it's 320mm
Just remember that's sometimes without a fan there so take off 25mm to be safe imo
I was asking for A Matrexx case from the shop that built my PC
and they said they cannot fit the GPU
I'm not 100% sure if it was a Matrexx 30 or a 40
but the 40 should fit it if you shuffle the fan a little lower
yeah I talked to the builder guy and he said they would've needed to saw 5mm off the GPU shroud
or I can stretch the budget 5k HUF and fit a MasterBox MB311L
What do you have atm?
Aigo B352 with the plexi side panel
Uh
it's a NIGHTMARE to do anything in
Does it have a mesh front?
Not really
well TECHNICALLY
the very bottom inch and a half has some perforations
but like
Are temps struggling or is it managing?
Yike
7600X so the CPU does go to 95°C under load, but it boosts roughly as expected of a single-tower cooler
GPU gets up to 80 under longer loads
That's doable
it's not immediate concern but also not great
it dusty as hecc tho
I can draw in the dust on the GPU backplate 2 weeks after me cleaning it
Personally I'd save up a bit more and get a proper good case because then you can keep it for as many builds as you like and it be great, like the mattrix and cooler master cases are just useable since your case is holding on I'd wait til you can get a nice one
Idk what's available there but anything mesh from phanteks, corsair x000d airflow cases, some montech, anything from fractal with mesh that's not the focus g, deepcool ck/cg560/ others with that style of naming
It's easier to recommend if i can see the website(s)
Alright, just a bit
Went ahead and tried to clean up a bit
For context that is all the front ventilation I get with this POS
Effectively nothing @fierce pivot
Anyhow brb reinstalling GPU
Cheapest box that fits what you need and has a full mesh front panel
Bonus $$$ if it has more than 1 fan
That's usually how we do it here, tho we tend to avoid a few bleh eggs
Like focus g
Or diypc
Tho diypc's o11 mini clone looks interesting

Tbf if you want o11 clone h9? And the neo qube exist
Yeah imo it looks kinda solid
For the price, it's a great alternative for o11 for people who want that asthetic
H9 is no
Huge pass
guys it took me 45 minutes to take out my GPU, blow out the dust and reinstall the GPU
this case SUCKS
Really i thought it was fine? How'd they mess it up?
I can't reach anything and the gaps in the paneling is juuuuust big enough to have the GPU mount screw fall into the motherboard
Try vacuum the mesh more often that tends to help, and uh maybe put on your desk or at least elevated?
luckily it wasn't powered on cuz cleaning but still
there is no fan behind the mesh
Just a clone from what I see, and costs more so pointless
it's literally a single fan on the CPU cooler too
and it just sucks up dust despite being on my table next to my monitor
No filtering whatsoever
Yeah but it'll still pull air in because it's exhausting air
I'm 100% replacing it as soon as I can
with something that has dust filters and a mesh front
For ages it was like 40$ cheaper and came with fans
Than air mini or mini?
Mini is bad and no but air isn't same size ofc it's better but some ppl want that huge all glass look
Mini's not that bad
If mini is bad then any o11 or clone is definitely bad
That costs more
Okay well it's definitely not worse
C12c's are heckin cheap bruv
Yeah I'm talking about like 6 months ago ish, no c12cs and o11 has dropped in price since and h9 has gone up
Went camping for a few days, came back and my PC is much noisier at idle than usual. I've identified it as the PSU fan seemingly stuck at high speeds. Is it toast?
the psu has fresh airflow and doesn't feel hot
You try unplugging it and replugging it in?
Yeah that worked, thanks. 🤦♂️
Actually I take that back. It seems to have ramped up again
I wouldn't mind if it was under load but this is louder than all my other fans
Powering a 5600x & 3060ti so idle wattage is relatively low
yeah so it seems under load and idle the PSU fan is probably running at the same speed
Unplug, grab an air can, hold the fan blades still (so you don't accidentally turn it into a generator) and go to town with the air
It's probably dusty and the dust either shorted the sensor or it's actually just getting hot
I'll give it a shot. Highly doubt it's dusty though as the intake isn't on the bottom of the case
I guess there isn't a filter though so maybe there's some dust that made it in.
More so you don't kill bearings.
Also true. Most modern fans know how to disengage when they overspin, but not all.
Also being unplugged would make it becoming a generator not much concern, haha.
It would be connected to the 12V rail though, not the AC side. So it could damage the motherboard in theory.
Ah, unless unplugging everything perhaps. Good to know. Earlier for a sec did not see "psu fan".
Far more likely to break the fan from spinning too fast then damage mobo tbf.
In theory you spin the fan fast enough and you can game on free power 
Once you spin fan enough to get PC turned on it'll power the fan so it's basically infinite power if you think about it
You'll blow the bearing long before you spin it that fast but in theory yes
You're now going to mysteriously disappear courtesy of the US government now. You just confirmed a infinite energy machine.
Use an electric duster and plug it into your new generator. Infinite energy.
ok
Do y’all think I should buy the same PSU I did for my current PC to build a new one?
Depends on prices and specific needs
Sales come and go, but the tier list is forever
(as much as anything can be forever on the internet at least)
you give us too little information
we dont know which one is your current psu, nor the spec of the old and the new pc
If your current psu is good why not reuse it?
Maybe they want to keep the PC as built instead of parting it out, meaning they get two usable PCs instead of one
LMAO https://www.pcguide.com/deals/razer-katana-power-supply-now-at-bargain-price-in-amazon-psu-deal/
The writer HAS to be on something
Nah they're just paid to write an ad without calling it an ad
Yeah i know it's just obnoxious
I hate how easy it is to spread misinformation while making money off of doing so
My conscious wouldn't let me screw people over to make money myself
every article on the internet seems to be an ad
Has anyone here built in the Thermaltake Tower 900 before?
The vast majority seem that way. It's painful trying to find random monitor reviews when all the YouTube videos are titled things like "best monitor for the price?" and "you need this monitor!"
This is on the Segotep (my PSU brand) website
Has anyone else done an RMA in this manner?
Basically they want me to order another PSU, then send my current one to them and they will get Newegg to refund me?
It's even worse when looking at literally anything non-computer related. Home appliances and such.
besides the hyte 40/60, are there any solid cases that follow a black and red color scheme
any case with black and red paint
i was hoping for something more specific

not really
colourways are uncommon now
black, white, grey are the fad
I also wouldn't buy a Y60
no kidding
Y40 is ok? Y60 is not great
y60 looks so cool but airflow is eh for gpu and legit 90% of people use it i feel like
yes
airflow sucks for it
basic premise of a premium case
y40 however has ample space for gpu air
it's like an nzxt case done properly (former nzxt designer made both so)
Check prices on Amazon below
Hyte Y40: https://geni.us/NEvs
AMD Ryzen 7950X3D: https://geni.us/TWCXUS
AMD Radeon 7900 XTX: https://geni.us/vktr
RTX 4080: https://geni.us/oTiA
Asus Crosshair X670E Hero: https://geni.us/vWUd1i
BeQuiet Dark Power Pro 1200W: https://geni.us/GJFlIb4
G-Skill 7200MHz DDR5: https://geni.us/ZSOa0I
A change of space, a d...
this kinda sold me on the y40 ngl
i'd go with the red obv, eventually want to build a setup with a black/grey/red theme
ye sounds good tbh
A friend of mine has the y40, she has absolutely no complaints about it, it’s generally pretty easy to work with and it’s actually pretty light as well so it’s not a pain to move around if you need to
I would've bought a Y40 but I ended up with an o11 air mini
I appreciate the case but also it's heavy and not totally better
It came a 6 days early, thank you Amazon
Now I need to actually rush buying more fans. What I have now will do but it’s not optimal
Oh yeah there's tons of weird showcase cases like that
A bit overwhelming to actually showcase
need to dust it every week to actually showcase
Check out the TT AH 600.
Hello! 👋 I'm not sure if it's the good place to post this, please let me know otherwise.
I received a refurbished SuperMicro board from the datacenter I work at, and I am looking for a tower case that -will- actually fit this dual CPU beast. However, I am having a hard time to find a good case for it. Many cases advertises E-ATX, but when looking at customer photos, I have a hard time to believe that my board would actually fit.
Can someone please lend me a hand? 🙃
For reference, here is the motherboard in question.
https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/motherboard/x11dpi-nt
Thank you!
Yeah I noticed the board is 330mm but most E-ATX cases advertises as 280mm
enthoo pro 2 seems to fit the bill
ssi-eeb compatible seems to be what you want to look for
Oh wow and the case looks amazing. Thanks for this find! I'll order this now 🙂
The server edition is rackmounted?
no, but it has braces for extra fans
and no second system space
made to take a lot of gpus all at once
Awesome! This does fit the bill perfectly. And there is space to mount U.2 SSDs
I ended up purchasing the server edition, since it officially supports SuperMicro boards, especially E-ATX ones. Thanks for the awesome find!
I have this decent dell optiplex I salvaged out of the trash.
I wonder if I could take the internals and put it into a case for a server
thought of using it for a minecraft server or something
I know nothing about the “cases” but link me to any builds or guides you know of.
Do the weird proprietary dell motherboard/case dimensions apply to optiplexes
darn
it is a nice freebie computer tho
found it in an ewaste bin
would like a nice cheap server computer though but idk how you can beat that on a $200 budget or however much these are actually worth
What processor was in it, and how much memory?
is the V550 sfx psu 80+ gold from cooler master any good?
i can only find entries for other sfx models on tier list
yes, it's a good psu
an i7-8800 or so
cannot remember
but 32gb 2666mHz ram
It's good, but what cpu and gpu did you want to use with it
Not horrible at least, that would make an ok server. 3D printing a case would get expensive so maybe an open air chassis instead. You don't need all the holes to line up perfectly, and you need to be able to access the power button.
its a complete computer, just thought of rehousing so it took a little less space
Ah, well that's not likely to happen
3600/1070
or 3600x/1080 but most likely the first combo
i only got it bc it was $40
ye then it's plenty
Depending where you got it, could be a defect motherboard. I had a similar situation years ago and tried 3 CPUs on the motherboard and later learned that it fried CPUs.
it was from a university and it seems there isnt anything wrong with it
it was labeled for surplus but never made it there
My computer randomly goes down to like 60hz stutters, and has streaks when my nightlight comes on
Think PSU failure
anyone familiar with the 5000D
could you fit twi 360mm rads with push-pull in it?
something like front and top
or side and top
I'd expect to give up the front dust filter if I was to try mounting fans to the outside of the tray (right behind the front panel itself)
But I'm not sure if it'd even fit (as well as having space to route the fan cables from that area)
Push/pull doesn't have any performance difference, especially if you're doing twin rads
I dont think it'd fit two 360s, would it?
(the idea is to use an AIO for CPU cooling and add a watercooled GPU to the top, with 3 RBG fans towards the case for lighting effects)
they advertise it as such
Really? Thought it fit a 360 top mounted or front mounted, not both together
Yeah it says AND
so the rads themselves SHOULD fit
the fans are a different story
I guess I can use push on the front and push-pull on the top?
Could put the fans on the outside of the case even, if needed
Would look quite odd but function wise it would be the same
I don't think you'd have space to route the cables is the issue
as well as losing the front dust filter
Mm true
This is what I'm worried about
you would have no space to route the cables to the motherboard/whatever controller you use
unless you cut up the case
so I'm guessing that since it'd conflict to have the fan-rad-fan on the front as well as the top
it'll have to be push on front and push-pull on the top
Do you already have the case?
no, not yet
I'm merely planning out the layout so I don't buy fans I'll not be able to use
cuz they be expensive AF
Just get a torrent or something and call it good
You could go with a bigger case to make things simpler, the first one that comes to mind being the torrent
You get all the fans you need with a torrent too
Torrent rgb is 230 rn
So I guess either would be a fair option
the 5000D would be the perfect size for my particular desk
Torrent compact maybe?
Ah but that's only a 280 on the bottom
Which is basically the same as a 360 anyway but I'm guessing you want it to match
Yeah I'm going to have to get the cooler master PSU. Amazon keeps sending me the wrong product
I'm aiming for an all Gigabyte build in that 5000D due to their Waterforce 4090 (it's just so damn sexy)
Dang that 4090 is worth more than my entire build
IKR?
oh hey we're currently rocking the same category of build lel
save for me having a crappy case and only a 75hz 1080p screen
(for now anyway)
I've also got a 75hz monitor that's 1080p
Got it for free and nothing beats free sooo
Well I got it bundled to my PC build so
It was kind of free
The 6700XT is incredibly overkill for 75hz 1080p right?
It's not just me thinking it's kinda dumb to do it but can't afford a better screen, is it?
Also
Admittedly
The 5000D build would be a showcase build primarily
A build where you basically shell out the cash for the best hardware, looks and convenience
I'd still wanna keep about the old one just in case (though I might switch things around like pairing the 4090 with the 7800X3D and add the 7900XTX I'd upgrade from to the editing machine for YT to reuse it, or just give both my sister and stepdad a GPU upgrade and yoink his old GPU for my editing rig)
Depends on the game but it can comfortably do 1440p medium/high in many
Yeah I do wanna upgrade my screen
But money's tight right now
Once I actually get employed it'll be easier but rn it tough
6700 preforms the best at 1440 from what I know
Thats not really how gpus work
But like
6700xt is good for 1440p, but it doesn't perform better at 1440p
In benchmarks
It
Is good.
But like it's got 12 gb
And vrqm good for higher resolutions right?
Technically AMD cards will perform best relative to other cards at lower resolutions due to the lower actual memory bandwidth. The AMD cards rely heavily on the infinity cache. Plus they have lower driver overhead.
So you might see an AMD cards beat the nvidia rival at 1080p, match it at 1440p, and then lose at 4k
There are also a fair few other factors when talking about low/high occupancy workloads that have more to do with the core
Dont really remember anything about Navi2 tho
as much as i havent wanted to hop on lian li case bandwagon.. the o-11 mini looks very appealing....
mini or air mini? They are quite different
The SFX power supply one then
Air mini takes regular ATX ones
im assuming a smaller psu?
Yes, and they're also more susceptible to burst overloads due to smaller bulk capacitors, bursts such as the ones high tier GPUs spike at
oh lovely
Yep nothing like having your 850W power supply trip because your 3080 decided to draw 600W for 10ms
Which is a real thing that happened... to me...
Three times
I bought it mid shortage, it was all I could get
Well, I also got the most garbage 3090 ever that lost badly to it's replacement that was technically lower tier
mid shortage? yikes, how much did you spend
so basically the price of my entire current build lol
200 more actually
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Radeon RX 6700 XT, Montech AIR 100 ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower
If I'd been able to wait 8 months I could have gotten a better 3090 for much cheaper during the crash
I try not to dwell on it
lol
thinking about an upgrade to next gen or going to wait for 8000/5000 series?
I'm perfectly happy with my setup right now. I might upgrade the CPU from ryzen 5000 to 8000 because that would help with what I'm doing the most.
But probably not
This is how bad that 3090 was btw
speed test?
sorry idk what im looking at
hwbot benchmark submission
idk how I get 65th out of 57 entries
Specifically that was fire strike extreme
It was an AIO model 3090 too, so you'd think it would be better. Wrong. The memory overheated like crazy, and everything I did wasn't enough. I even tried to benchmark in subzero ambient temperatures and I still scored 1000 points worse than an average 3080 ti.
wow
It was so bad I bought a giant heatsink to slap on the backplate with a fan. It would still get hot enough to burn you if you touched it.
what do you think my next upgrade should be
ill prob get a nice monitor then save for awhile
mhm
would a 750w psu handle it
7600 isnt power hungry it seems like
It could yeah. Maybe not one of the models that has insane stock power limits, but it could handle most of them. If you want to play it safe there's the XT.
it could easily tbf
the normal lian 011 feels massive
Air mini takes regular power supplies, and it's pretty small still. About the same size as the regular mini.
I wish it had the front glass
Eh this is a regular o11
I guess it’s not “massive”
It's above average for sure
Pg-13 please, boys
lmao.
Finally reassembled the sketchy psu I painted. Soldered some extra cables to make sure it explodes faster and better
W
Use it on your main system for faster explode
Yea
It already trips ocp (ig) with a 30w high speed server fan. Even tho 12v can pull up to 120w or so they say... maybe inrush current too high
Could do an inline potentiometer (variable resistor) to prevent the fan from going 0-100
The fan was just to test if I didn't break something but I'm going to have about 8hdds hooked up and hopefully the same doesn't happen when I start them up
any recomendation's for a safe sfx psu?
Cooler master v sfx gold
Lian li sp
Evga gm
The cooler master one is normally best cheapest
e.g this will handle almost anything
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vJPQzy/cooler-master-v850-sfx-gold-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-mpy-8501-sfhagv-wu
That or revolt sfx 650 best priced sfx psus right now for US
Therapy is...
Repinning your extensions to look how you want
I've truly hit the keyboard tier of custom pc


Down to just the mobo cable now
Cabled, combed, done.
Compared to a custom cablemod order I saved a fair few dollars here, but that's cos I had the colour pallette considered before I did it.
I also have RSI pains in my thumb, haven't had that for a long time, worth it tho 💀
The custom combs look really good tho (the 6 pin won't be clearly visible so I didn't order a 6 pin comb)
That is sick
Cappuccino cables
Someone likes coffee I suppose
why don't I see people talk about the meshroom S ever, does it have major flaws or smn?
fits a full atx mobo in a 15L case, thats pretty swag
asked in build chat but it got buried pretty quick so ill ask here:
is the evga 450bt atx psu gonna be okay for light gaming on 3300x/1070? no overclocking will be done
psu tier list says D tier (iGPU) but it shouldn't explode if i pair it with a 1070 right
Explode, likely not, but potentially die and if it does it could take other components with it
https://www.amazon.com/SGPC-mATX-K88-Lite-Steel/dp/B09ZSVF56W this also kinda crazy
I'd almost buy it if the listing didn't look like something I'd find on Temu
And the air-flow/build quality/building experience probably being ass
LOL I DO
is the ASUS TUF Gaming 850 Watt 80 Plus Gold at $130 a good buy? 7800xt, most likely with 7700x, possible upgrade in 2 years
You could run that off a good 750w
Like the thermaltake gf3 750w is $90
Comes with 12vhpwr too if you ever go to that spec later and don't want to replace cables
750w is already borderline overkill
Yeah I had a feeling that was the message coming lol

850W you'd be pretty comfortable with a 7900xtx and a 7700x
will i wish i have gotten the 850w?
I mean
Will you be gaming at 4k?
Cos everything else would need to upgrade as well for a 5090
7900XTX is basically 1440p maxed out rn
So anything faster is going to be cpu bottlenecked
Not immediately, but maybe in the future
I'd worry about it at the time lad
You'd likely have to flip most of your current pc for one
So you'd get your money back on a 750w psu
Not to mention it likely could still run on one
We don't know what the power draw will be like
So let alone 850w being ample or insufficient
5090's could draw 800W for all we know

Been looking into these all day and looks like when I do get a new case I'll settle on the Sama IM01, small for matx while not being a toy like this and not being big like a AP201
IM01 is nice
As long as you have the right planned build for it you get great space usage
Most itx or rather, SFF doesn't get much attention outside of normal uses
It's very niche, wanting sff enough to go through with it
We recommend the AP201 and similarly the D31/D41 a lot here as they try to be small(er) form factor cases while still using full size parts
And I mean like
all
Full size lol
IM01 I think can kinda do that too iirc
that's why I've been looking into mATX sff since the only real compromise there is being harder to build in
Yeah
I'm much the same
D31 is my favourite for this
Matx, not quite sff, more mff
But fits a 360 aio
Full psu
Full gpu
Full storage, has a screen
It's smart lol
I've considered im01 but I've used the d31 before it's quite nice
Yeah I saw the D31, looked nice, was trying have a peak at smaller though
Yeah im01 would be one on the next step down I'd agree with
Or if you can get a cheap itx board like an A620i
I feel like my parts would fit granted I have no idea which PSU I even have 
I've seen some people fit certain mATX mobos in the NR200p
Definitely want to know before you build
With mods probably lol
Whats the size it doesn't fit?
Just make sure with everything in sff
That all parts fit
If you're unsure about one you definitely want to be sure cos you don't really have give and take in sff
Saw a vid saying the PSU shouldn't be longer than 150mm and my psu indeed is 😬
And the case restricts to 120 aios if you put an atx one in
Which is basically useless
I already use a 120 so :P
Ah
Might go for the AP201 afterall, since I know my GPU will fit
Just looks a little silly inside with the big gpu near the bottom with fans super close to it
I'ma take it up a notch and try to be the first (technically second but weon talk about that) to custom loop that mf (eventually)
If I was to go the US micro-centre and build a pc is there a way I could switch the plugs and stuff so it would work in the UK?
Yeah PCs use standard kettle cables. Just switch the cable out. 99% of power supplies will work no matter the input voltage.
Everything is an 011 clone now
I might snag it if it ever goes on sale
Ima be honest I’m over the white case I have, might give it to my sister
It's probably never gonna be on a good enough sale
I can only hope
Is an ATX 3.0 PSU compatible with an ATX 12, everything?
My PSU is about 8-10y.o, and my pc is crashing. Thinking of replacing the PSU for a 3.0 and getting a few more years out of my hardware.
GPU: 5700 xt
Mobo: Asus Prime TRX-40 Pro
3.0 is compatible with 12vhpwr yes
can you describe the type of crashing that's happening?
Flickering, ram led hangs, won't boot to bios.
Running 3200 mhz DDR4, vendor approved list, model# matches, amd approved.
I turned off D.O.C.P (no over-clocking, just stock mfg mhz) and it was stable for 2 days at 2666 mhz (what it defaults to with D.O.C.P off)
POST lights = led RAM light stays on when it fails to boot
And it crashed today, again.
@ 2666 mhz
No blue screen. Just powers off randomly, then it won't boot led RAM POST light hangs that there's an error. Ran MEMTEST86 a few days ago, I didn't see a FAIL or ERROR on any of the reports (not that I know how to read them, just ctrl+F and searched the doc for "Errors" & "Fail")
Could be memory failure too, you can test with OCCT for a quick test or TM5 for a deep test
It's uncommon but it does happen. Sometimes RAM channels go bad randomly too, so any stick you put in a certain slot appears bad. On threadripper that's a common issue from cooler mounting pressure.
I mean if he did a ram test it's not my first inclination
memtest86 isn't so bad it's useless
not really?
if you run it parallel it's accurate enough to rule out random restarts
Can we at least agree that you shouldn't rely on a single test for anything in regards to stability?
TY @sand atlas & @serene siren
I am in need of a quality 1,000+ watt, Gold or platinum, desktop power supply that includes a 4 pin cable to feed the 4 pin connector that is next to the 8 pin CPU connector on the motherboard. I'm on my second return now for a lack of this, please help
Budget and country?
And what gpu are you running?
US...up to $300. GeForce 3090, I have a new one I'd like to run along side the existing unit. AMD architecture, about a year old.
If you're gaming two gpus won't be useful, it actually hurts performance. One sec, I'll grab a few links for psu
Curious, I'm ignorant obviously, why wouldn't the 2nd GPU help?
You only need to use the additional 4 pin connector if you're going to be using more than 350W on the CPU, even a 13900k won't usually do that
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ffvD4D/thermaltake-toughpower-gf-a3-1200-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-1200fnfagu-l
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WjcgXL/enermax-revolution-df-2-1050-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ers1050ewt
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yXHqqs/phanteks-amp-v2-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p1000g_02
Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (PS-TPD-1200FNFAGU-L)
Games won't take use of the second gpu
Theyre just not programmed to
Seriously? The PS I wanted to return should be fine with just the 8 pin? I installed it but never attempted turning it on!
If nothing else it's a decent card toward my son's computer. He's 11 and enjoys what we have now.
Yes the additional 4 pin is optional for overclocking, and potentially server processors that use tons of power
You are awesome, thank you for the guidance.
Btw the df2 is only b tier
I just found out about the montech king95
super excited for it ngl, might be exactly what ive been looking for
releases this month or november i think

Looks cool ngl, how much?
probably gonna be bad still lmao
cases of these design aren't focused for air cooling at all
squarely aimed for custom loops
Think they said around 100
Damn
And a bit more with fans
Rather buy a o11 no?
How many
It's probably very thin glass
Tempered

alright
im interested
if it's really $100
i will shill it for a certain aesthetic
Montech W
From what I watched it will also have a mesh front
And will be black/white, white option a bit more
I think the gpu mount is only vertical maybe
It was hard to tell from what I watched
I wanna say 3, 2 140s and a 120
mesh front option would be so sick
heres a terrible angle of it
The Montech King 95 isn't your typical dual chamber case since it tries a new approach for airflow, curved glass and component visibility. But its price is what's absolutely mind blowing.
0:00 - A SUPER Innovative Basic PC Case
2:49 - The $110 Dual Chamber Case
6:41 - $60 for THIS!?
7:03 - Finally some PROPER PSU Sleeving
7:56 - A New High End...
it'll launch around 100-110 this month or next month
im very excited
I'm new to this, how do I figure out what the max power on a motherboard is? For reference the motherboard I'm looking at is a Z790 AORUS ELITE AX (yes I copy pasted the name, sue me)
what do u mean by "max power" of cpu? gpu? motherboard eheaders
Do you mean the maximum amount of wattage the vrms on the motherboard can handle?
Would a ryzen 7 3700x and a Aorus 3070 work on a 650 psu
what model power supply
The 80+ rating has nothing to do with the quality of the unit
There's gold rated units in the F tier that can and will explode
What's the brand and model?
EVGA 650 BQ
I will likely upgrade because of another PSU issue that mine has but just wondering
Yeah its fine
BQ is C tier so it would be good for a 3070
I have had issues with it starting sometimes and having to trouble shoot constantly, and I ask one more question. Is an open box PSU at micro center likely to include all the necessary PSU hardware needed to function
650 is also a bit better than the bq 750 or 850
It should yeah, but how much is it
Sorry this is new I think
That’s my bad
But yea is that a reliable unit
What “tier” is it
A tier
Rme is among the best, rm and rmx are better but rme is still great
Finally got the time to swap the PSU, slightly better cable management and hopefully everything works first time
Thermaltake pf3 1kw is just amazing. I already love it, no coil whine, perfectly silent, voltages are all within ±2%. Now I can barely figure out if my pc is running or not
So quiet!! :))))))
I've been having an issue where my PC will automatically shut off out of nowhere while playing either, Fortnite, Star Wars battlefront 2, or Crossout, and this has been going on since I first built my PC at the beginning of this year (except fortnite which has only done so since they converted from U4 to U5). I cannot figure out how exactly to fix it. I thought it my be my cooling solution because my CPU gets quite hot at times (cheap 20$ Thermaltake cpu fan), so I bought a new octo-heatsink with a fan, which lowered my CPU temperature a bit, but that still didn't fix the problem. And my CPU goes to 100% utilization when loading a game in emulators (like all CPUs), but it doesn't shut off then which makes no sense. I'm thinking it might be my PSU, but I want to make sure before I buy a new one.
My PC specs are:
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X - Pre overclocked up to 4.7 ghz
GPU: RX 7600 OC
RAM: 16Gbs Dual-Channel DDR4 3600Mhz
Motherboard: ASRock B550 PC Velocita (AM4)
PSU: 550w
What model PSU
Rosewill ARC Series, ARC 550, 550W Non-Modular Power Supply, 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified, Single +12V Rail, SLI & CrossFire Ready, Black (I just copy and pasted this from the site)
Can you download OCCT and run the power test for like 10 minutes and see if it shuts off?
Yeah that's an E tier unit
Quite possibly the culprit
The only ones worse are the ones that spontaneously combust
oof
Welp
Guess I should get a new one then
Lol
What wattage would you recommend?
That power test mr1111 suggested will show you how bad it is
Wattage and efficiency rating have nothing to do with quality
Any C tier or better https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
Wait, hang on... I got that from the wrong list
that's on me
Cooler Master MWE 550 550W 80+ White PSU w/ Hydro-Dynamic-Bearing Silent 120mm Fan, Single +12V Rail, Flat Black Cables
This is what I have
I copied that other psu from my friend's pc... sry about that...
I could try.
MWE white is slightly better but still bad, would reccomend downloading occt and running the power test to verify that the PSU is the problem, and then get a new PSU
Is it the one that does only 230V or the one that does 115/230V
Are you in North America
Yes
It's 115V then
Low B grade, not horrible but could still be an issue if it's old
I baught it brand new in december last year, so it's not referbished or anything
It wasn't damaged in shipping or anything either
I'd run that occt power test and see what happens. Could be a thermal shut off or an OPP shut off.
ok
I started it and the only ting I changed was the temerature limit. I set it to 95 Celsius.
I'll wait for it to finish then i'll come back
Isn't the mwe white even 115v still lower?
Thought the v2 was the one that was higher
It's been running for about 10 minutes and I haven't had any problems so far.
But I could cook some toast on my GPU if I waned to. 😂
CPU is definitely hitting a thermal limit
Try setting a negative offset voltage on the core in the overclocking menu
-0.025 should help without losing any performance
w
So, I just got a new 850w 80 Plus Bronze PSU, and my PC will still shut off while playing fortnite. Now I'm thinking it might just be the Anti-Cheat or something.
This is the Critical Event I found in Event Viewer:
It did this even back when I had my Nvidia GPU.
First off, whats the model psu
And with the new psu did you use the cables that came with it, or old cables (old cables shouldn't even fit except for some special scenarios, but still asking)
I used the cables that it came with and pluged everything into their respective slots.
And the model is: Thermaltake Smart BM3 850W 80Plus Bronze ATX 3.0 & PCIE 5.0
But this all has happened before I got the new PSU
Anti cheat definitely won't shut your pc off
I just thought it might be a windows secrurity bug that made it think that the anti-cheat was a virus or something.
Cause this happens with Crossout as well
Which isn't half as demanding as fortnite is
what are some good small cases for builds?
Nr200p, core v1, 2000d airflow, evolv shift 2 air for mitx
^
Ssupd meshilicous
Also nr200 non p (p just has glass and mesh panel but mesh panel is really needed
Mesh >
Sama im01
I've been using the thermaltake toughpower pf3 1050w for about a week, it has been working really nicely but I encountered a problem: first happended when I got a slight power loss and I was also using the computer, it turned off and only the RGBs of the keyboard were on, I was unable to restart my pc, no power at all, I guess only the 5vsb was getting power. Solution flick the power switch on the back and wait till the kb LEDs go off (letting the psu discharge) then I could start it normally. This issue hasn't happened during games or any type of load. But it just happened a minute ago when I was shutting off my pc in windows, turned on as usual but it like turned back on for a brief second before shutting down again and giving me the same PSU problem. Had to disconnect it and power it back on a second after...?
Normal behaviour? It doesn't look like to me. I'm ok with it if it doesn't happen during a restart or during normal use. Idk if I'd be able to get a new unit if needed
Happened one more time... :(
What's wrong with this thing uhhhhhhh
It also takes 2 more seconds to start after I press the button
Now it did not... 😕
I... I don't understand
- tried sleep mode, it works but as soon as I turn it back on it dies. Olly thing that stays on us the blinking led that I get when in sleep mode
It could also be a motherboard problem, hopefully not, that'd suck
I feel like there could be a short somewhere because I had this same problem on another system when I overloaded the psu and only the standby rail was still running
I guess the velcro straps have nothing to do with static electricity or possible causes of shorts... Or am I wrong, only one I could think of is directly touching the backside of the ram pins
I'll just take out the mobo and hopefully find some screw or one of those metal cable ties (the ones with the plastic outside)
Currently solved nothing, I entirely disassembled my pc, and reassembled it, tomorrow I'll try with one of the old PSUs and hopefully I figure something out
Montech’s King 95 now has an official release date of December 5th. Basically O11 style case with a curved glass front panel, optional mesh front panel, at 110$ USD I think.
"You see those cases from Taiwan? They have curved glass. Curved. Glass."
DO you know why OBS might be stuttering because no matter what I do it keeps on stuttering in the video
I don't use OBS but streamers I've seen with that issue tweaked some settings and it was fixed
Don't know which
amazing
that somehow sounds sarcastic.. 
you do not believe in montech supremacy
I got it to work I just had to open as admin
No it's legit
O11 for base O11 price
What's not to like
Curved glass too

Hi everyone,
I have two questions. If I install the ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 in the be quiet 802 window case, will it block the HDD side? Additionally, can I use be quiet 120mm light wing fans instead of the Arctic 420 fans? I'd like to use the light wing fans at the front of the case. Will this change affect the performance of the Arctic 420?
Thank you!
shouldn't be a problem
that looks like enough clearance for fans
but mounting them will be a bit of a finessing work
120mm fans will not fit on a 420mm radiator since it uses 140mm fans
also the fans that come with it are more than fine
Yes the P14 fans are very good, and quiet
Using be quiet 120mm fans Just for looking
I think the pump is important than fans. I saw 6 fans on the radiator didn’t reduce the temperature.
I need it
That's nice, but everything else feels lower quality for some reason.
should I need specify screw?
By the way, the photo is from online. I want to try a 420 AIO. Will the radiator block the HDD slot?
I took some time to analyse the problem with my PSU (thermaltake toughpower pf3 1050w) and here is what I can confirm:
- if I'm able to start the computer, it works perfectly, 400w+ load.
- as soon as I shut off the pc in windows the PSU (most times) dies and I can't turn it back on unless I unplug the power cord and wait a few seconds.
- sleep mode works but when I click the button to wake the pc the rgbs flick for a sec and it dies again
- the 5vsb stays on all the time, even when the PSU dies as my kb has all the leds on
I have two possible solutions I haven't tried: trying a diff power outlet and testing with the old PSU to make sure it's not the mb
I'll probably do that if I'm sure that it is the problem. Hopefully I'm able to get another unit instead of a refund since I got it thanks to a price error for just over 50€
Else I'd have to switch back to the other PSU which I didn't really like as it both had coil whine and a slightly loud fan at low rpm
Out of curiosity, what small form factor cases do y'all recommend with support for 240mm aio and preferably up to ATX mobo.
Would you settle for matx?
If so ap201, 205m mesh, n200, td300 mesh, for matx mini towers
Matx mid tower, fractal design pop air mini, montech air 100, nx200m, Thermaltake v150
Yeah M-ATX is doable, I am considering reusing my main rig for a server soon and it uses a M-ATX board.
Yeah the options for a full atx board any anything under atx mid tower is annoying and hard to do
I can imagine.
But any of those cases I listed are nice
ATX in full towers is already hard enough for me because my hands are too large....
There's other options too but those are the ones I could think of
the ap201 seems to be the best price wise.
Ap201 and fractal design pop air are my two favorites
Pop air moreso
But that's personal preference, they're both great cases
I just like the look and sizing of the pop air more, also I think it comes with more fans
But c12c 3 pack still dirt cheap
Pop Air looked nice but 2.5x the price 😢
Jeez
Diff is only $22 in the us
$68 and $90
What about the 205m mesh?
This is decent, not sure if you like it though https://www.amazon.com.mx/Antec-NX200-Micro-ATX-Tower-preinstalado/dp/B094NK5M4M/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?crid=1ZNMPW1T2B0OL&keywords=pc+case&qid=1698514761&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin%3A23771372011&rnid=23771366011&s=computers&sprefix=pc+case%2Caps%2C86&sr=1-7&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.4e545b5e-1d45-498b-8193-a253464ffa47
Also one of thr cheapest matx cases on amazon mx
Rgb /fans is 727 pesos
Couldn't find it.
Oh weird, it didn't show for me before.
Quite tempting, half the price of the ap201.
Yeah I think I will pickup the nx200m since I just need bare bones basic stuff to get a second system running.
Nice
I can always swap out the parts later.
Do you need any other parts?
Besides a cooler I think I figured out everything I need.
What's the cpu?
5700G though I'll be upgrading it in the future to a more powerful cpu with 16+ cores so I'd like a beefy aio that doesn't break the bank.
Dual tower thermalright likely then
Going the AIO route because they travel a lot better and I'm a nomad.
Oh yeah I completely just disregarded that sorry lol
No problems.
Man, travelling with desktops definitely has it's troubles lmao.
Life lesson, NEVER EVER, EVER expect airport carriers to transport your stuff with care.
Prob the notte
That's the new thermaltake aio right?
You think those can handle something like a 7950x/5950x?
Yeah, 7950x is fine on a cheap tower cooler from what Felix has told me
that's pretty.
picked out my ram.
Cheapest 64gb 3600cl18
And simple aesthetic which is nice for server use.
Storage and psu?
No need for ten billion leds lmao.
But then how can you use your pc as a strobe light
PSU my plan was to reuse my current one once I buy the parts for my pc upgrade in a week or two.
Storage I am not sure if I want to reuse or buy a new stick yet.
xD, my main rig has so many light strips and light sources.
Not in rainbow puke though thankfully lmao.
I got fans covered.
I have some leftover fans from my ls720 and 3x140mm fans from my torrent.
