cases-psu-and-cooling

[serene siren]

Approaching 4090 performance for almost half the price, 7900 xtx is amazing to me imo

880$

[sand atlas]

Beating the $1200 4080 is the important part

[serene siren]

And since a couple months post launch I haven't talked to anyone unhappy about it

The card is great

It'll bottleneck with a 5800x3d a bit at 1440p but not 4k

7900xt also exists tho

[ember marsh]

OK so gpu in motherboards. Does it not matter what gpu I put in a motherboard

[serene siren]

Near 4080 performance lmao

Nope

Again atx form factor

[sand atlas]

Only in certain cases, usually low end stuff

[ember marsh]

Or are motherboards ryzencor Nvidia specific?

[serene siren]

Nyope

Wide compatibility

[ember marsh]

I need to check what my motherboard is again

[sand atlas]

I.E. Don't put a 6500 XT in a B450 board

[serene siren]

Yeah that's true, but it still works

[sand atlas]

It would work but when the PCIe lanes themselves are the bottleneck... oof

Again that mostly affects low end stuff

[serene siren]

Or stuff from like, 1998

[ember marsh]

Would that motherboard be compatible?

[serene siren]

Yes

[ember marsh]

OK cool for 7900 xtx?

880 wow I could upgrade next paycheck lmao

[sand atlas]

Considering the first PCI express standard was made in 2003 and the first consumer board in 2005, yeah that would affect things a bit

[serene siren]

Yeah man. 7900 xt also great

7900 xt is what, 730 rn? Or something like that

Knock about 16% performance off and 4gb vram

[sand atlas]

$760 https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-7900-xt-rx7900xt-20g-l-oc/p/N82E16814131810

[ember marsh]

Are there specific brands I should go for? Ik Nvidia has those specified brands that you wanna get

[sand atlas]

Nah pretty much everthing is overkill

All the AIB brands put way more into the coolers than they needed to

[ember marsh]

And is the xtx like the ti's of Radeon lmao

[sand atlas]

Maybe just avoid ones with 2x 8 pin power, but that's it

3x 8 pin models have a higher power limit generally, so they can clock higher and overclock better

[ember marsh]

Would those be good with a 750 watt psu? Of would I need higher wattage?

[sand atlas]

With a 5800X3D? Probably ok as long as you don't overclock

[serene siren]

Asrock phantom gaming or xfx if you want the fastest, sapphire nitro+

Or just anything else if you want cheap but basically the same

[serene siren]

Ur good man

550W peak transients, 5800x3d sub 80w when gaming

You got a fair bit of headroom

Well, 80W, but amd calculates package power a bit differently

It's around about that ye

As long as it's a good 750W you shouldn't have any issues

[ember marsh]

I believe it's like b rabk or possible high c rank?

I believe it's a b rank tho

[serene siren]

Worth knowing the unit for peace of mind

Lol

[ember marsh]

Whichever rank this one is lmao

[sand atlas]

B yeah

Should do ok

[ember marsh]

Ok cool

OK so I guess I got my game plan

[ember marsh]

Whichever one has best performance ig lmao

[serene siren]

Oh oops

[serene siren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gCBG3C/asrock-phantom-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx7900xtx-pg-24go

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/k72WGX/powercolor-hellhound-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-rx7900xt-20g-loc

Hellhound iirc is tier 3 instead of tier 1 but yeah, the difference to pay up to the xfx card for the 7900xt kinda not worth

Power isn't a big deal for these cards tho

[sand atlas]

Unless you're overclocking yeah

You can make it pull a steady 500W pretty easily lol

[ember marsh]

I mean if there's a big difference in fps I don't think I'd need to overclock

[ember marsh]

So go for the xt?

[serene siren]

Either one is great man, the XT should be a more ideal match for the 5800X3D* tho imo

@ember marsh

[ember marsh]

Just cause of less power draw or something?

[serene siren]

More what the cpu can keep up with

XTX will be held up by the cpu a bit (there's a huge context to this that would take a lot of explaining)

If you don't mind that tho, go for XTX

When you next upgrade cpu, you'll get that missing performance back out of the xtx

Unless you plan to play 4k in which it won't matter

[ember marsh]

I play competitive games so anything that boosts performance is good

[serene siren]

Ah so you're probably bottlenecked anyway

Go with ur gut and pick either one

[ember marsh]

Well it's a 5800x3d with a 3070ti rn so if I were to get the 7900 it would for sure bottleneck it more

[serene siren]

Ye but it's fine

It's still gonna be better

[ember marsh]

Especially since the 5800x3d can't be overclocked

[serene siren]

It can, but not of any real significant benefits

Ye

[blissful thistle]

Xtx at $880 is a no Brainer

When the xt is $750-800, unless it's on sale?

[serene siren]

It's like 760 or something

Ye 760 for the xt

Both are decent

[ember marsh]

Both are a good deal. Just not sure I should get something my rig can't handle rn lmao

[blissful thistle]

I wouldnt say it can't handle it

The 5800x3d isn't a bad pairing with the xtx, it'll limit it sure but not terribly. Meanwhile the 7900xt would be "underkill" for the 5800x3d, and imo not a worthwhile upgrade from 3070 ti

[ember marsh]

Well at this point I'm confused.

So if I go for the xtx will that effect performance withing the system?

[blissful thistle]

No, the xtx will still perform better than the xt

The xtx will just perform worse than if it were paired with a better cpu

[ember marsh]

So ig I should see if it'll be an upgrade or not. See what the fps looks like with the same kinda rig

So with max settings it gets about 250 260 fps at 1440p. With the lowest settings possible thatll be a better increase for sure. If anything I'll just have to see how the next cod will run

[serene siren]

Cod runs better on amd

Like, abnormally better

[ember marsh]

Yeah so I'd assume the 7900 would go well with an amd cpu either way

[scenic lance]

I have question

my pc case at the front has 1 usb a and 1 usb c

yet my mouse n keyboard both usb a

and I think in the back of the pc there’s a few usb a slots in the back

would it still work the same

[mild roost]

yes

it'd still work

[blissful thistle]

yes, those ports are on the motherboard

[scenic lance]

thanks 🙏

[flat island]

Does this case have color changing fans

DEEPCOOL CC560 Mid-Tower Gaming Case Pre-Installed 3 x 120mm LED Fans - Black

Also I assume one of its fans is fake?

[mild roost]

Huh? All of the case's fans are real

Why would they conclude them if they're fake

And yeah, the fans does have rgb

Or so I think

If not then live with the color

You're buying a prebuilt anyway

[serene siren]

Hmmm

12600k+z690, 3080 2x8pin

750W good enough? You guys think?

[mild roost]

ye

i can trust a 750w if it's gud one

[serene siren]

Tuf bronze?

[fierce pivot]

Should be fine ye

[serene siren]

Alr I order while still cheap

[fierce pivot]

Beep boop

[slate creek]

I ran a 5900x w/ PBO and an OCed 3080 3x pin on a HX750i and it worked perfectly fine

[carmine oyster]

My 5900x and 300w 6700xt was funny

On a 650

[serene siren]

Ur funny every day man u know what

[carmine oyster]

No you're crazy

[serene siren]

Crazy in love

Not 4 u

[carmine oyster]

I was about to say LMAO

[serene siren]

[blissful thistle]

Pato

[sick viper]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275380664498

Saw this thing

Uh thoughts?

It is not what I would be using

but ive thought about it

[serene siren]

https://www.techpowerup.com/310761/12vhpwr-connector-said-to-be-replaced-by-12v-2x6-connector

time for the half answer for lower power cards

but good improvements for all 12vhpwr devices

sounds like it's just a male connecter revision tbh, one that was sorely needed

@upbeat dew you'd be interested in this

👀

[upbeat dew]

lemme check it 🙂

cool, indeed was long overdue

[scenic lance]

I have a question

my monitors plug is the same as my pcs plug as they’re from the same company

If I use the monitors one on the PC

Will it work the same?

(Acer monitor and PC)

They’re both 3 pins

[blissful thistle]

The one to the wall?

Theyre always the same and universal, afaik. I've swapped them between pcs, monitors, etc

[scenic lance]

yeah

[scenic lance]

let’s say I want to the the monitors plug into the wall as the pc’s plug into the wall

would it be okay?

[tulip granite]

no, use the psu plug. Wires can have different wattage ratings

[sand atlas]

It sounds to me like a standard kettle plug. Yes they'll have different ratings but the lowest I've seen is 5A at 120V and I seriously doubt a monitor will use 600W.

The most common rating I've seen is 7A which is plenty for up to about 840W officially, but can probably handle more.

There's 10A ones too but those come with PSUs over 1000W generally

[tulip granite]

sure, but i wouldn't use it the other way around (monitor plug for the PC). Even so whats the reason to? You could always get an extension cord with a surge protector for cheap

[scenic lance]

what is a good white psu

[mild roost]

corsair cx-f

and rm/rmx

they're all expensive tho so it might just be wiser to buy extension cablws if you really want white cables

[urban blade]

Can someone help me make sure I'm getting the correct PSU?

I also have a GTX 960 4gb that I need to power

[blissful thistle]

That psu is explosive

[urban blade]

?

[blissful thistle]

I'd get this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xLtKHx/apevia-prestige-600-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-atx-rp600w

[blissful thistle]

It is known for catching fire

[urban blade]

Oh yikes

Is there a cheaper option than the one you recommended? Or should I shell out the extra?

[blissful thistle]

It's the cheapest decent quality psu

There's a tier list pinned in this chat, the Thermaltake smart white is the lowest tier, the Prestige is C tier, which is ok

The smart white is F tier

[urban blade]

Ok, thank you for the help

[urban blade]

https://a.co/d/gpPnsdH

Should I spend another 8 to get the RGB and more wattage?

[urban blade]

Yo I saw something about dell motherboards and proprietary power supplies, I have a Dell motherboard is that something I have to worry about when getting the apevia PSU?

[scenic lance]

can a 100w cable, power a 500w pc?

(The wattage is 100)

I assume it can power 1250w? or 1000?

I have got a lot of people saying yes, a lot of people saying no

I just want to be sure.

Yk what nvm

It’ll work

[blissful thistle]

Believe that's a worse model

[blissful thistle]

Yes

[urban blade]

how do i know if my mobo needs a propr. psu?

[serene siren]

It's not a measure of the mobo, it's a measure of the system and how much power it needs/degree of parts

If your parts supposedly use X amount of power, we normally recommend Y amount and a certain quality that we know will keep your PC alive if the poop hits the proverbial fan

We don't go by gold, platinum, bronze etc. Either. Those are efficiency measurements, not related to safety features PSU's can come with

[urban blade]

so if i have aftermarket parts i can run a regular psu?

im not really sure how much of this works

[serene siren]

A psu is lethargic to whatever you plug into it

If it has the right plug, then it'll run

Aftermarket or not

[urban blade]

alright

[serene siren]

Wouldn't really use the word aftermarket lol

[urban blade]

so i should look at my mobo and see what inputs it has and see if the psu im buying has those too

[serene siren]

Oh no, if it's compliant with ATX (which a vast majority are) then both the psu and mobo will be compatible

They have that standard in place so you don't really need to check

[urban blade]

yeah my mobo is atx

[serene siren]

Ye then ur fine

[urban blade]

cool, thanks for the help man

[serene siren]

It's ok, there's no manual for this

The apevia prestige is about as cheap and low as we will go, specifically that unit and not any other is decent for the price

There are a lot of literal fire hazards in cheap psu's

But that one is ok(-ish)

[urban blade]

yeah i almost bought that one psu but im glad i checked here first

[serene siren]

Ye thermaltake white is a literal bomb

It'll work but if anything goes wrong, whole pc likely dead

[urban blade]

should i spend the extra 8 for the rgb and higher wattage one?

[serene siren]

Meanwhile a good unit will die on it's own

And save the parts as much as possible

[serene siren]

Nope

Like I said specifically the unit we described

Each model, even between brands can be wildly different

Brands themselves don't often make the psu's, they get supplied them from psu manufacturers

[urban blade]

ah alright, i didnt know that, i thought it would be like cpus where its the higher number = better

[serene siren]

Ye I could see that, don't worry

Like I said no manual for this stuff

Rather, they wouldn't want you to be this smart

[urban blade]

yeah lol

keep an eye out cus in the next week theres going to be an absolute frankenstein of a pc build

[serene siren]

Lol ok

[scenic lance]

what psu cables are good

i had asiahose one and they died

and i had to use the ugly ones my regular psu had

and does the o11 dynamic have alot of space to cable manage

[quaint island]

do you guys have any recommendations for a small atx case that can fit a 2080ti

like the smallest case possible that still has good airflow

[serene siren]

All gpu's are different sizes

[sand atlas]

Yep. 2080 ti ranges from 266mm to 330mm. Which model?

[quaint island]

its the 330mm

i did put a kraken g12 and x52 on it though so i would need some extra space for the pipes

[sand atlas]

Oh you took off the stock shroud? How long is the PCB then?

[quaint island]

its actually the 266mm amazon had the wrong specs i just measured it

pcb is 266

[sand atlas]

Ah ok then

[quaint island]

its 137mm across

[sand atlas]

Ok, and you need it to fit full atx size? Not micro atx or itx?

[quaint island]

atx full

im kinda tight on the budget and was hoping to just move all the old parts into a new case

[sand atlas]

I think this would fit along the lines of what you're looking for https://ssupd.co/products/new-meshroom-s

The specs sheet is a mess from how many different configs it supports lol

[quaint island]

cool thank you it looks like it will work

[ember marsh]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xdRYcf/fractal-design-pop-xl-air-atx-full-tower-case-fd-c-por1x-01

so will this case allow a top mount for a 360 mm aio?

[sand atlas]

No

280mm max on top

[ember marsh]

ok

so ill need something bigger

or something better lmao

you did say the corsair 5000D airflow allowed a top mount 360 mm aio with lots of space in it. right?

but the big issue with the 5000d is it doesnt have prebuilt fans

and ik prebuilt fans arent always the best but for rn the nooby has to go the easy way

[sand atlas]

Right, and you said no to the P500A right?

[ember marsh]

if its phanteks then yeah id probly say no lmao

[sand atlas]

Have you looked at the O11 Dynamic Evo?

That one fits top, side, and bottom 360

[ember marsh]

i was lookin at that one but was told the airflow was not good

[sand atlas]

If you're water cooling it's fine

[slate creek]

Lancool III

[sand atlas]

Bottom mount fans are good for an air cooled GPU, do 6 intake and 3 top exhaust and it'll be tons of pressure

[sand atlas]

How roomy is it?

[slate creek]

420mm rad in front, 360 on top and bottom

This is my build in it bad picture tho

This was it before the loop

Good example of roominess imo

[sand atlas]

push/pull, yeah that's roomy lol

[slate creek]

In the custom loop, both rads are 45mm with the fans being 25mm

So somewhat similar to your average AIO push pull config

[ember marsh]

i mean honestly i just want something easy to put together and take apart along with as much room as possible for a gpu upgrade lmao

[slate creek]

Comes with 3 140mm fans on the front, and one exhaust 140mm in the back

[ember marsh]

and of course the top mount 360 mm aio

[slate creek]

Lancool III has a removable trays basically everything, front, top and bottom trays are all removable

Magnetic covers to cover up cable management in the back and hinged glass panels

[sand atlas]

Max GPU length is 435mm so it should fit just about everything

The longest 4090 is 360mm

[ember marsh]

and does it allow for airflow?

[slate creek]

Probably one of the best airflow cases out there

[ember marsh]

and would i be required to buy fans?

[sand atlas]

If you do the top mount 360mm then that would fill it up nicely. You could add 3 more fans on the bottom if you wanted, or if you got a hot gpu later.

[ember marsh]

plan would be to go for the 7900 xt if anything

[sand atlas]

Only XT? Not XTX?

[ember marsh]

from what i was told the xt would be better for my 5800x3d

[slate creek]

No?

[ember marsh]

unless youd recommend the xtx with only a 750 watt psu

[serene siren]

Yes

[sand atlas]

Longest XT is 353mm, and that should be fine with just the front intake. No need for bottom.

[serene siren]

I said you could do either just the XT is more balanced

[slate creek]

Highest draw I’ve gotten out of my XTX is around 450w, but that’s also because mine has the highest PL of any 7900xtx

Your average XTX should honestly be fine on an A tier 750w imo

[serene siren]

It should be ye

[ember marsh]

i think mines a B tier if i remember correctly

[slate creek]

Still should be fine, 5800x3d doesn’t draw that much right? Only like 150-200w?

[sand atlas]

Not even

[serene siren]

Transients on current gen cards are much more controlled unless you tap into the nutty stuff of unlocked vbios/hard modding etc

[serene siren]

Max is like 106

[sand atlas]

The non 3D pulls that much when overclocked, the X3D pulls way less

[ember marsh]

ok so it seems everyone agrees that the lancool 3 would be my best bet

[serene siren]

@ember marsh will you play games in 1440p or 4k

[ember marsh]

i play competitive cod like scrimmages and tournaments so i play on lowest graphics possible

[serene siren]

Yeah then XT is fine

[sand atlas]

XT is perfect then, save your money

CoD loves AMD too

[serene siren]

Ye it'll already be overkill

I think I did ask this before but just reconfirming for context

[ember marsh]

so 7900 xt, lancool 3 and 3 fans

[serene siren]

Ye

C12C's are good

[sand atlas]

The 3 fans would be optional

[serene siren]

Or B12's

(if you wanna splash)

[slate creek]

Phanteks T30s are fun

[serene siren]

Nah T30's are old news now

B12's are new meta

[ember marsh]

well for now its still just a work in progress idk if i want to upgrade just yet cause im still trying to figure out what to do with my old prebuilt

[serene siren]

[serene siren]

Sell or strip for nas/render system

[ember marsh]

id probly only strip the gpu cause its from a friend

[slate creek]

send it to us /j

[sand atlas]

Plex/file server is a good option

[serene siren]

5800x3d you can carry over tho, low res gaming loves x3d

[slate creek]

Overclock it for fun cause why not

[ember marsh]

ok so would i need a fan hub for the lancool?

[serene siren]

Maybe

Actually I think LCIII has one already

Might have it mixed up with a fractal case

[ember marsh]

well if the 3 fans are optional with this case then i dont see a reason to buy them if the airflow is just fine

[sand atlas]

Doesn't look like it does have a hub, but honestly a couple of three way splitters works perfect.

[slate creek]

Nope it doesn’t

A few 3 way splitters will do the job

[sand atlas]

The AIO will have it's own, so one 3x splitter for the front and one 3x splitter for the bottom. The back fan can be alone.

As long as the motherboard has at least 4 fan headers (plus one pump maybe depending on AIO) then that's perfect

[ember marsh]

well rn all my fans are plugged to my mobo so would it really matter?

i just have the aio fans daisy chained

and the 3 in the front of my case plugged in

[sand atlas]

I doubt your motherboard has enough ports to do it without splitters. You'd need 8 headers plus pump.

[ember marsh]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089CZSQB4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

this is what i have for my motherboard

[sand atlas]

Close but no. It has 6 plus the pump.

You need at least one splitter still

Or don't get the bottom fans

[ember marsh]

the plan originally was to not have to get any fans so id be able to survive without the bottoms fans correct?

[sand atlas]

Yep

[ember marsh]

ok so im good to just by whenever

[sand atlas]

Without filling the bottom you'd only need 5 plus pump so your board is good.

[ember marsh]

ok. i would assume id have no issue with installation of the motherboard either cause id assume pc cases arent motherboard specific

which i think ive asked before but i wanna make sure

[sand atlas]

Correct. As long as the form factor is supported, board fitment is usually a non-issue.

[ember marsh]

what is the form factor?

[sand atlas]

ATX, mATX, ITX, EATX, etc

Yours is ATX which is supported

[ember marsh]

ok sweet

thoughts on a good white 7900 XT? if its not worth it i can always go for some kind of fun RGB one

thats just a normal black

[sand atlas]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-7900-xt-rx-7900-xt-gaming-trio-classic-20g/p/N82E16814137782

[serene siren]

Classic is super meh

Also 880$

[sand atlas]

white tax

[serene siren]

I wouldn't

That's $20 short of XTX

Cheapest decent white looks to be 1100 for a Taichi XTX which is just...nah

Nitro+ is 1000 but not true white

[sand atlas]

XT does seem to be lacking in white models

[serene siren]

Ye it is

@ember marsh this one
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/N9xRsY/xfx-speedster-merc-310-black-edition-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-rx-79tmercb9

It's black one side, totally white on the other

[sand atlas]

Could always yolo a yeston https://www.newegg.com/yeston-rx7900xt-20gd6-sugar-ya/p/27N-0042-000G7?Description=7900 xt&cm_re=7900_xt-_-9SIAZUEJJW4639-_-Product

[serene siren]

$720 is a lot better

And it's an xfx

[ember marsh]

it does look clean even though its lacking in the rgb effect my fans will take over that

cause my aio is rgb and the prebuilt fans will be as well

[serene siren]

I have the xtx version of this. Frankly a brilliant card, just a little bit more audible than others

Ye it's no flair, all performance

[ember marsh]

the yeston was something i was thinking of getting but i feel id need a crazy combo with it

even though it looks sick i wouldnt buy it unless i had some crazy theme to match it

[serene siren]

120$ more is excessive for the same or less performance tho

If you asked me

[ember marsh]

yeah true

if i was going for all looks or just for the fun of it id buy it

[serene siren]

You could instead throw that at an XTX

[ember marsh]

even though anime is my favorite id have to decline

[sand atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/culture-man-of-culture-cultured-gif-10903367

[ember marsh]

yes, started watching blue lock

such a good anime

[serene siren]

XFX is a good card. A lot of people knocked it for the dodgiest looking card at release but it's turned out to be the fastest and nicest bin across the whole range

LD is hit or miss but when it hits it's probably the only better one

You could also change the theme of the build a bit if it adds consistency

Like lose a little rgb here and there for looks

Grab thermalright B12's or arctic p12's/p14's

[ember marsh]

well i got em in my cart on new egg. lowkey might wait till im closer to pay day which will be the week after next week.

so moves will be made soon but till then i appreciate you guys helpin me out.

[serene siren]

All good

[ember marsh]

one thing that does bother me though is my case is a mid atx tower as well and so is the lancool. id assume its the same kind of tower just the dimensions and shape is what allows for things to fit better?

[sand atlas]

There's no definition of mid tower, full tower, etc. Just marketing terms.

I've seen things labeled as micro atx towers that were bigger than some mid towers

[ember marsh]

ok that makes sense

[sick viper]

There appears to be four indentations which would make great points for mounting something without it shifting around

Could glue some anchors in

If they even need gluing at all if I have mounting points elsewhere

I need to keep it universal

Cpu box to represent the psu

I will probably 3d print the mounting brackets

the case itself will be fine but I want to make the interior shock resistant a bit so maybe some sort of silicone to pad areas

Impossible to stop hard knocks or being thrown but maybe dampen any accidental bumps

[delicate eagle]

if I have a 750watts psu what ups should i buy?

[sand atlas]

How long do you need it to run for in the event of a power outage? How fast of a switching response do you need? What are your other specs? (because you're probably not using all 750W) Any other devices you'll have plugged in?

[delicate eagle]

I don't care about the first question I just want to power my pc lol which ups do you recommend?

I'll plug in my 2 monitor

[fierce pivot]

The 1st question is pretty important one, if you just want it to power your pc for 1 second a 750va one would do assuming you're using all 750w

[delicate eagle]

wait isn't it like

750va x .6 to get the watt?

so 450watts

ups are so confusing lol

[fierce pivot]

Volts * amps = watts

[delicate eagle]

oh

[fierce pivot]

Idk why they are quoted in VA instead of watts

[delicate eagle]

I'm using a ryzen 5 5600x with a 4060ti

does the 750va do?

[fierce pivot]

Depends how long you want it to last tbh

Estimating about 500w for the pc and monitors a 1600va one would get you about 8 mins of run time

[zinc crag]

GF A3 1200
Thoughts on this PSU?

[mild roost]

b tier

but do you need that much power lol

[forest vector]

does anyone know where i can find a phanteks p500a black and white

[exotic perch]

Is this a decent case?

Looking for something cheaper and matx to put some spare parts in

[sand atlas]

It's ok for the price

[sand atlas]

Looks to be sold out everywhere I know to look. Even Microcenter.

[forest vector]

Damn tough luck

[blissful thistle]

G500a

[forest vector]

is there a black and white version tho

[blissful thistle]

Oh black and white, I misunderstood. Thought you meant a black version and a white version, one second

Not phanteks but this looks nice https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zL3gXL/fractal-design-focus-2-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-foc2a-04

[zinc crag]

13900k and 4080 but was looking to future proof

What do you guys use to get ranking of PSUs

[exotic perch]

#cases-psu-and-cooling message

@zinc crag

[upbeat dew]

cause va and watts are 2 different things?

the wattage formula is rather more complex than the cheap and go volt * ampere

or at least it was the last time i checked

[sand atlas]

The VA rating is calculated with Input Volts (120V) x Amps / Power Factor

https://www.eaton.com/us/en-us/products/backup-power-ups-surge-it-power-distribution/backup-power-ups/va-versus-watts--eaton.html

[scenic lance]

What's the cheapest A/B tier PSU that's fully modular currently?

Black if possible

[sand atlas]

What wattage

[mild roost]

cheapest rn is thermaltake gf a3

speculative but its 1300w variant is a tier apparently

850w

[scenic lance]

Enough for a 13600KF/12600K and 2080 Ti

So 650W/750W?

Maybe lower

Want a little head room

[sand atlas]

Ye GF A3 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9GLdnQ/thermaltake-toughpower-gf-a3-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-l

[mild roost]

oh ya it was the 750w actually

but should still be okay

better than buying rm750e

tenner more for a tier but bleh, it's ok

[scenic lance]

Yeah I was gonna ask

[scenic lance]

B tier?

[mild roost]

yeah it's B

not like you need much anyway

[scenic lance]

Any reason to grab RM750e over it?

[mild roost]

just the reason of it being A tier i guess

[sand atlas]

Corsair has lots of custom cable options

[mild roost]

and better support for when you lose cables

[scenic lance]

I was just gonna do cable extensions

[mild roost]

they use cables that are grouped with types

so it's easy for others to make custom cables for em

personally i don't really care

just keep the box and stuff safe

[scenic lance]

I might see what they have at the Best Buy near me

[sand atlas]

Make sure to use their price match if you do

[scenic lance]

Hmmmm

They got RM750e there

$100 PSU though

[scenic lance]

What's that?

https://www.amazon.com/Asiahorse-Customization-Sleeve-Extension-Supply/dp/B073W6N7Y2/ref=sr_1_1

https://www.amazon.com/ASIAHORSE-Extension-Sleeved-Braided-11-8Inch/dp/B08HLYM54P/ref=sr_1_5

Is the extra $6 worth it for the few extra cables?

[silent spindle]

Hi troubleshooting that im having my pc won't turn on and i don't see any lights on the motherboard and fans is not turning i tried switching outlets and unplugging psu but nothing any suggestion what can be the problem

[blissful thistle]

Did you just build it?

[hollow leaf]

1 is 16awg and the other is 18awg. I would go for the 16awg personally.

[silent spindle]

Yes i build it and never have this problem before i had turn on went to the bathroom and when came back it it was turned off and tried turn it back on and there no power

@blissful thistle it just recently happened the issue is not a new build

[blissful thistle]

check connections, maybe something came loose

what motherboard is it?

[silent spindle]

@blissful thistle is a asus tuff gamings b550 m-plus

[blissful thistle]

sorry my brain just decided to not work

what psu?

that's what i meant to ask lol

[silent spindle]

@blissful thistle lol , is a cosair 850w Rm

[blissful thistle]

good psu, I wouldnt immediately assume it's the issue

could be, as good products do still fail sometimes, but for now I'd focus on other stuff

[mild roost]

clear cmos

it could just be that a sudden loss of power messed up the bios settings

[blissful thistle]

I'd check connections, clear cmos as foxy said, reseat ram and cpu possibly

[silent spindle]

@blissful thistle gotcha i tried that

[blissful thistle]

have you changed anything in or on the pc recently?

[silent spindle]

No i haven't changed anything is was working fine all the suddenly it turn off

@mild roost and how i clear the cmos , sorry that's is new to me

[mild roost]

find cmos reset header to short

or take off the coin battery for a minute

cmos batt is usually placed around where the pcie slots situate in

[drowsy dock]

I'd usually take out the battery for a minute

turn it on

and then turn it back off

then put the battery back in

[scenic lance]

Alrighty

[zinc crag]

What are some good cases for air flow?

[past harbor]

Torrent, $120ish last I saw.

[urban blade]

Yo can someone help me

My motherboard measures about 10x8 and has an 8 pin and a 4 pin going into it from the psu

That's the only thing the PSU connects to

The 4 pin says 12v_pwrconn and the 8 pin just says power

Am I good to get a regular PSU?

[wintry fiber]

What's the cheapest atx test bench that has a place for two psu

[serene siren]

A box

[tacit wren]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VDTR22R

[fierce pivot]

Phanteks g300a(if 1 fan version grab a back of thermalright c12c's since they're like 12-15$ for a 3 pack) /g360a, montech air 100, deepcool ck560/cg560, corsair 4000d airflow can be decent if it's priced cheaper than any of those on sale/regional thing

[fierce pivot]

That sound proprietary but a picture would be easier to confirm

[sick viper]

I seemed to have vastly underestimated the size of the PSU

Yeah a bit too tightly packed, luckily I can return the pelican case and revise

There just isnt a case that can keep things somewhat compact but not really sacrifice anything

Or perhaps I am giving up too soon

[sand atlas]

You can send back the PSU and get a SFF model, they're a lot smaller

[sick viper]

I dont think it is the problem honestly

Im not sure if it is worth it

Just looking for something, anything that is relatively airline-friendly or i could strap to a bicycle

Something slim. Preferably something I could attach a screen to

The whole idea was to have a compromise between a laptop and a desktop.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wrM2gb

honestly at this point i will take any small-ish case even an open frame

[serene siren]

All that will go in an atx case just about no matter what you do

You could do an open frame case

Or probably smallest size would be D41 mesh

But that's still basically ATX

The board is really the most difficult part of all that

If not board then aio

[sand atlas]

There's not a lot of small cases that can fit a 360mm AIO

[serene siren]

If you swapped both of those you'd have a boat load, if only one you'd have a number of decent options

Yeah

280 would be better, and with a specific block profile

If not a new gen 240

Like notte or ek basic

[mild roost]

welp Intel just cancelled nucs

[serene siren]

Haven't they done this like 3 times before

[mild roost]

no more og mini pc

idk lol

[serene siren]

I specifically remember like 10th or 11th supposedly being "the last"

[sand atlas]

They probably just canceled the next gen nuc because of the 14th gen issues

[sick viper]

i think i will go with an open frame and be done with it

[serene siren]

And then back for mtl-s, that would make perfect sense actually

[sick viper]

i already have all the parts on hand

[serene siren]

There's a really nice open frame if I could remember it

[sand atlas]

Desktop MTL is canceled actually, "15th gen" with the core ultra whatever naming will be arrow lake.

[serene siren]

[sand atlas]

I'm sure the engineers did everything they could for their first attempt at chiplets tiles but Intel wasn't willing to compromise to make it happen like AMD was. So they're jumping straight to second gen chiplets tiles.

[serene siren]

I'm all for that tbh

Pat probably looked at it like he did the state of intel as it was with 14nm and said screw it all we're making something actually worth it

[sand atlas]

Short term loss, long term maybe gain. Arrow Lake looks promising but it's too early for details.

[sick viper]

Yeah im not worried about dust, as I would likely dust excessively

[serene siren]

Guarantee if Pat Gelsinger wasn't there we probably wouldn't even have intel desktop cpus anymore

So I support delays for the sake of a quality change for the better

[serene siren]

Xproto I believe is the name

It fits all your components with a 360 attachment iirc

Or go like, thermaltake core p3

[sick viper]

https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Dismantle-Stackable-Certified-CA-1F1-00D1NN-00/dp/B01C71Q8PA/ref=asc_df_B01C71Q8PA/

What the heck is this

[mild roost]

pedestal for a case

[sick viper]

Yeah, I still like the idea, but you know what I guess it wasnt meant to be

Probably need decent internet to use it remotely

Idk if technology is there yet

[sand atlas]

As far as internet, you can plug a 5G modem into the PCIe slot that supports the wireless bands for everywhere you plan to go. Then you just have to pay for another data line on your phone plan, and you can use relatively reliable internet just about anywhere.

[wintry fiber]

Interesting

[urban blade]

I'll send some right now

[sand atlas]

Yep that's good old Dell and their modified 12VO.

[urban blade]

What does that mean? Can I use an ATX psu?

https://a.co/d/gTawDaU
Apevia ATX-PR600W Prestige 600W 80+ Gold Certified, RoHS Compliance, Active PFC ATX Gaming Power Supply https://a.co/d/gTawDaU

I'm looking to get this one

[blissful thistle]

Personally I'd spend a bit extra for this https://www.newegg.com/fsp-group-hydro-ge-hge550m-550w/p/1HU-0095-00071?Item=9SIABP96N22205&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIABP96N22205-_-07112023

Or the 650

[urban blade]

Im broke and don't need a stupid good PSU cus I'm running a mid range i5, 16gb of ram, and a gtx960 4gb

I just needa know if that PSU will work with my motherboard because it's different

[blissful thistle]

Ah right, dell pc

Check what cpu power and motherboard power connectors you need

If they're on that psu, and the psu fits in the case, you're fine

[urban blade]

With my mobo having an 8 pin main power would I need to get an adapter from the 20/24 pin main power?

[blissful thistle]

I'm not even sure if adapters exist

I'd wait for someone else to answer that question

[urban blade]

Theres 2 of the 6+2 pin, I need one for my GPU, but could I use the other one as the main power?

[urban blade]

👍

[blissful thistle]

No definitely not

[urban blade]

Ok

[blissful thistle]

If it did happen to match the pins, it would still be a very bad idea

[urban blade]

This is what I found and the motherboard on the last picture looks exactly like mine

[hollow wave]

Can anyone help me with this werid thing that's been happening to the glass on my pc case?

I can't post an image but the glass on my pc case has a white patch of right next to the cpu cooler

Just wondering if it's somthing to worry about or just staining from the temperature or somthing idk

[sand atlas]

Probably just slight warping of the coating from heat

[hollow wave]

Alrighty then, thank you!

[blissful thistle]

Every night I've secretly been putting a bit of white paint on your glass panel

[wintry fiber]

Why are you trying to replace the existing psu,

[urban blade]

I have a GTX 960 4gb that I want to install

[wintry fiber]

Just use two psu, plug the gpu only into the second power supply and either bridge two pins on the second power supply's 24 pin or get a moax or sata to 24 pin adaptor to power the second psu when the first one turns on

[urban blade]

Brother what

Are you trying to blow me up?

Ain't you the dude that wanted to use two PSUs and then said you were gonna make a wood case

[wintry fiber]

I am using two psus and have been for a yeat

Just don't plug the two psus into the same thing

How do you think crypto miners have so many gpus

They have more than one psu

It's fine

[wintry fiber]

https://a.co/d/1Aa4fXe

Something like that

One of the two versions

@urban blade

[urban blade]

Bro I ain't doin all that

I need another PSU anyways

[wintry fiber]

That does use the second one and Ik for a fact that works but no one knows about your nystery adapter for dell

So i am just telling you ehsg ik eorks

[urban blade]

Bro I ain't doin that, don't matter what you're gonna say, ur not convincing me to blow my house up

[wintry fiber]

I have seen videos of that adapter you sent not working

[sand atlas]

Dual power supplies is a totally common thing. You can jump start your PSU with a paperclip, I do it all the time.
If that's not an option for you then sadly your best option would be to get most of a new computer because Dell hates their customers.

[mild roost]

yeah

if you can muster up like $600 you could actually get a brand new pc

[fierce pivot]

https://youtu.be/-n8N62DeNDU

Very nice to see more psu testing

[sand atlas]

It's also good that they're starting with known units. 2 from F tier and a C tier. Surprise, the C tier survives the testing and the others don't.

[fierce pivot]

Shocker, although thermaltake smart is all over the place with some being e/d/c iirc so depends which exact unit, absolute pain to find out which one it is tho

[sick viper]

Honestly if my grandfather was still around he probably would make me a computer case out of wood

It would be like 20kg+ but I would love him for it

[jolly tartan]

650w psu should be good for a pure performance build with a radeon rx 7900 xtx right?

i have a rtx 3060 rn and pc part picker estimated my build but with the 7900 would use under 600w

[blissful thistle]

I doubt it

I'd leave atleast 75w for rest of pc, not including cpu, which is another atleast 50w

I'd trust a 6950xt on an A tier 650

Not a 7900xt or xtx

[jolly tartan]

ok

[blissful thistle]

Xtx does not pull 355w

[jolly tartan]

cause thats what its saying it will be

[blissful thistle]

More like 500w

Some scenarios more like 550 depending on model

Do you already own everything in that list aside from the gpu?

[jolly tartan]

yah

[blissful thistle]

Ah alright

[jolly tartan]

and i just need the memory of a xtx not the speed

so probably never gonna oc

[jolly tartan]

this a good psu ?

[blissful thistle]

No

Check the psu tier list pinned in this channel

[jolly tartan]

so this would be a good one? also looks like the cable was added

its for this specific card on this board

[blissful thistle]

Yes, good psu, bit on the expensive side but it's one of the best units out there

That b550 is overpriced

[jolly tartan]

yah if it will work petter its worth 30 or so more

yah it was way less awhile ago

i alredy have the board

[blissful thistle]

I doubt the redragon one would be above D tier, which would not handle an xtx

Ah alright

[jolly tartan]

ok yah i have a 650w supernova and a rtx 3060 atm

just got the xtx

[blissful thistle]

Decent psu, just would likely not enjoy running the 7900xtx lol

[jolly tartan]

yah just relizing that lol

[jolly tartan]

i dont see a warenty on the corsair psu

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Connectors-105°C-Rated-Capacitors-Efficiency/dp/B0BYQHWJXC/ref=asc_df_B0BN21Z1XQ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=642084241644&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7593870377776203642&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015301&hvtargid=pla-1942812238990&gclid=Cj0KCQjwnrmlBhDHARIsADJ5b_m7_WvFGO8_HjFbptvC3_w3KvOalIposHaVnGY4I0bytdaucOo-ZZ4aAtFJEALw_wcB&th=1

i got it

[blissful thistle]

It's got a 10 yr I think?

[fierce pivot]

what gpu will you be doing?

because thermaltake gf1 850 is 100$ rn which is a way better value

im blind, 7900xtx

id just get this instead https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-tt-premium-edition-ps-tpd-0850fnfaga-1-850w/p/N82E16817153403

[jolly tartan]

i got a 1000w psu

i run a split pc 90% of the time

[fierce pivot]

Ah fair

[jolly tartan]

sometimes its split 3 or 4 ways too

so the 3060 with its 12gb vram was ok but not if u wanted to have rtx shaders on

[severe zenith]

if alternative is available i really wouldn't wanna ever run a XTX on a 850w anyways

you're restricted from using 7950x/7900x, 13700k/13900k stock and getting pretty darn close with a 13600k

he'd be fine with whatever am4 chip he's on but ever upgrade from that and its pushing limits of that PSU

7800x3d would be perfectly fine but dunno his usecase

[solid halo]

is the 750w a safe buy? price is nice and my estimated wattage on the build im getting is only 414 but i might upgrade in the future https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Connectors-105°C-Rated-Capacitors-Efficiency/dp/B0BYR1BXC6/ref=asc_df_B0BN21Z1XQ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=642084241644&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7593870377776203642&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015301&hvtargid=pla-1942812238990&gclid=Cj0KCQjwnrmlBhDHARIsADJ5b_m7_WvFGO8_HjFbptvC3_w3KvOalIposHaVnGY4I0bytdaucOo-ZZ4aAtFJEALw_wcB&th=1

[solid halo]

This looks kinda nice too tho

Way overkill for my consumption however 💀

[fierce pivot]

What will you be using?

At the moment 850w gf1 is a steal

[solid halo]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cznC2m

[fierce pivot]

You bought any of this yet? You can do way better for the price

[solid halo]

motherboard and cpu so far

[fierce pivot]

Can you return the motherboard? It's extremely overpriced

Also I'm assuming you're reusing a case or something?

Like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cqVgd9

[solid halo]

I cannot 😔

I’m aware

[fierce pivot]

How come? Did you buy it over a month ago?

[solid halo]

Its a 14 day return from Best Buy and a poorly informed decision, that was a while ago though

[fierce pivot]

Oof

[solid halo]

At least I didn’t pay full price 🥰 had my gf split for me but it makes me cry every time I remember the price

[fierce pivot]

I'd probs do this then, no need to pay more than the lowest price for a 6700xt
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2ZHsbK

[solid halo]

ill keep an eye out but is the 12gb vs 16 really that different for $180?

i DEFINITELY like the $100 psu considering its somehow less than any of the lower voltage ones

it comes with cables or?

[fierce pivot]

The gpu above i linked is a 6800xt not a 6700xt, it's not the vram capacity that makes it better it's just a better gpu, it's like 3070 vs 3080 if that helps

[solid halo]

omg how did i not see that

[jolly tartan]

im running a 9 5950x alredy so yah

[mild roost]

eh

i disagree

a good 850w can and will handle an xtx

and a cpu that's not very power hungry

like pretty much any zen 2 and above ever

making sure the pc works safely is one thing, but overspending is another

[urban blade]

Could I get a new motherboard instead?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284294483715?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110011%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.DISCLISTINGS%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20221018103213%26meid%3De4f4bce467ae42119792d41209954e8a%26pid%3D101429%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D404353281107%26itm%3D284294483715%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2332490%26algv%3Ddefault%26brand%3DASUS&_trksid=p2332490.c101429.m5206&amdata=cksum%3A284294483715e4f4bce467ae42119792d41209954e8a|enc%3AAQAIAAAA4B3w31MgdJJjBL0%252BLx0NgeHH1PBvids6vp5ISsmf8KJMjrIdP6n3FY48F4RkIQ8wzQp3QXvmd6%252BSnm%252F2bavnZJnxwuPNETj4UBEymC9Il5ZEs7Tj%252BT12ougCSc6EIbAiHMsjLVSy1j8z5MmwvttdV9w9%252B0zEeapZJdVJv5qHWNpJlqV4BFbt0YqHZ4rjad78WC6JxXXFNa8tGubnw9YYzlAHoP0VpP0m%252Bpev%252FXZdQZ%252BWehCgZgodnwQcMMEpE4QqEo77R%252F%252FSLBpzSCqEojUQb97vgQx7dPQZ7W1YsrzAL5C3|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2332490&epid=2256479495

I found this one and it's the same socket type but it has regular PSU connectors

[mild roost]

it probably won't fit in the case

nor will the cooler fit

if you do get that board you'll either have to run caseless or get some cheap used case

and a cooler of course

[severe zenith]

7900x, 7950x, 13700k, and 13900k disagree

[mild roost]

and those are all slower than the more efficient 7800x3d and 7900x3d

it depends on the cpu choice like i also said

[severe zenith]

XTX can/will pull 500W… not good to pair with 300-370w

[mild roost]

a good psu can handle max load or a little over just fine

or even transients

[severe zenith]

Bad generalization

A great psu could have incredible ripple, load reg, and transient response but a low OCP

[mild roost]

good psu i mean by at least a b tier according to the cultists tier list

they use actual data from in depth reviews for units that get a certain tier with no speculations

[severe zenith]

Those tiers are how good the protections are - not how much OCP capacity they have

[mild roost]

look into the list if you're here making assumptions lol

[severe zenith]

Think you need to look at the tiering methodology again..

It tiers them by how good the protections are, not by the current capacity of the OCP

T2 and AX1600i will both do 130% of current capacity but they only test them upto 110%

[hollow wave]

D:

[plucky citrus]

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-750f14hg-750w/p/1HU-024C-00006?Description=super flower&cm_re=super_flower-_-9SIAMNPAY44279-_-Product

Don't know where it ranks on the PSU chart but Super Flower is good.

They make some other brands internal components for the PSU and they get rebranded

[mellow maple]

So nothing bad will happen @plucky citrus

[plucky citrus]

What no

Super Flower is really good.

That's a good price psu for $105

It's reasonable

[mellow maple]

Ok thanks

[plucky citrus]

Newegg got the discount going on now too which is saving money

[plucky citrus]

It's $95 after applying the promo code

[mellow maple]

Would it fit the Nzxt H5 flow rgb

[mild roost]

it will

[fierce pivot]

Bad techie, especially with psus never recommend just brands the variance is too high, i mean luckily that's a good unit but still

[fierce pivot]

If you haven't bought it yet/can cancel order this is better for 5$ more
https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-tt-premium-edition-ps-tpd-0850fnfaga-1-850w/p/N82E16817153403

Also yes but I'd recommend getting a different case if you haven't bought/can still return

Something like phanteks g300a with a 3 pack of thermalright c12c's/g360a, deepcool ck560/cg560 but that case will do just meh and pricey

[plucky citrus]

I meant overall because of the supplier

[fierce pivot]

Yes exactly, psu companies are notorious for making amazing and absolute dog crap power supplies

[plucky citrus]

Seasonic 🤣 Gigabyte

Explosion 💥

[fierce pivot]

Evga, enermax, thermaltake etc etc

[plucky citrus]

Lol

Yepp

That's a fair point

But yeah that unit is good from Super Flower. Great price too with the savings from Wegg

[fierce pivot]

Yeah that ones a good unit. It's just fine you can get a just as good 850w for 5$ more atm

[azure cloak]

Guys quick question, I’ve seen a lot of DOA stuff on the gf1 psu, and some said it fried their mobo, is the paper clip method a safe wаy to test the psu and it being 850w, it won’t use too much power that itll fry a 5600g cpu right?

[blissful thistle]

The gf1 is a good psu

There are other Thermaltake psus that are explodey, but the gf1 is solid

[mild roost]

^

[azure cloak]

Just to make sure, it’s this right?

I ordered it on prime day but it’s not coming until either next week or the week after that : (

[mild roost]

yes

[robust walrus]

Is this a bad psu? https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-toughpower-gf3-series-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-4-850-w/p/N82E16817153438

[fierce pivot]

its good, but this is cheaper and just as good https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rm850e-cp-9020263-na-850-w/p/N82E16817139306

[robust walrus]

I alr ordered but how are Newegg returns?

[fierce pivot]

if you alraedy have it, thats fine, idk if its worth your while returning for like 10$. if it hasnt been shipped you should just be able to cancel your order

[robust walrus]

I would cancel but it is apart of a three item order. Is there any way I could just specifically cancel the psu and keep the rest of my order?

[robust walrus]

Only reason I was asking if it was bad was because I saw people complaining that it died after they bought it

[mild roost]

DOA reviews are small but loud percentage

But yeah, the psu itself is fine

[fierce pivot]

i dont know that would be a question for customer support

[solid halo]

Mine actually came on today, very happy with it

[azure cloak]

Lucky!! Does it have any weird smells to it?

[solid halo]

It does smell a bit like a factory but it’s just a kinda plasticky smell

Nothing concerning

I got it from Amazon it was the amazons choice one which I think is direct from amd so idk

[mild roost]

That's a smell of new tech products tbh

[solid halo]

I thought the little white ring lit up but I guess it doesn’t?

[mild roost]

Yeah it's not the rgb version

The ring will be rgb on those

[solid halo]

Damn

Rip

Yeah i tested it with the cpu that also came today (btw the 7000 series with the weird cutouts on the heat sink kinda made me really nervous pressing the cpu down but it’s so chill) also cable management will be fixed EVENTUALLY

[mild roost]

You don't even need to press it down frankly

Just line up and plop it on

It's made to be inserted like that by design

[sick viper]

Yeah I was ultra careful

Plopped in and the lever did the rest of the work

[solid halo]

It felt like I had to use more pressure than a pin connection (which makes sense they’re different) but it’s so chill

Also the stock cooler came with paste on it, I don’t have any paste right now but that will work fine for the foreseeable future right?

[fierce pivot]

Yeah always use stock paste unless you're repasting tbh

[hollow leaf]

Stop attacking me.

[severe zenith]

anything older than 2 years i wouldn't

[jolly tartan]

the 1000w one is running grate so i asume

[solid halo]

Ended up getting the gf1 lol

[jolly tartan]

ok

[fierce pivot]

What's the fun in that

[sick viper]

im using the thermaltake P3

the gpu fits nicely I guess

the evga 3080

but I dont like how much the card wiggles

I will 3d print something to support it later but for now I just gotta avoid moving the case too much I think

[blissful thistle]

it is screwed into the back of the case, right?

the bracket

[sick viper]

the is nothing there to support it

but it isn't sagging because it is vertical

anyway I gotta remove the GPU again because I only put it there to see how it fit. I will think of a temporary solution

[sick viper]

alright gpu wiggle solved

im still putting a bracket on later just in case

https://tenor.com/view/gary-spongebob-drums-joke-ba-gif-22902854

[sick viper]

cable management is driving me nuts

there must be a cable clamping method using wire and keeping this stuff aligned

like a cable tie with things between the wires to keep them from twisting

[sand atlas]

Cable combs?

They keep things tidy

[sick viper]

thanks

sometimes cable ties make sense but I just need 2 wires to align a certain way

[sick viper]

I kinda wish I got the p3 pro model with the usb-c3.2 port on the front but oh well

might be a convenient way to add one on

its open frame like that matters

also the price was right

dimensions on the bottom were slightly less

[sick viper]

I should have gone with the pro model case but well its done

first try

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monke-neuron-activation-neuron-activation-gif-20850506

[tulip granite]

put ur tubes down

[sick viper]

they have a mind of their own

[tulip granite]

no i mean invert the radiator so the tubes are pointing down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195sk&t=1211s

[sick viper]

yeah good thing to know

[tulip granite]

I agree it looks bad but you gotta do what you gotta do

[sick viper]

I was going to mess with the cables anyway, I just briefly powered it on to see if all the components worked

the pcie cables are a pain in the neck

[sand atlas]

It's only slightly louder from water noise in the radiator with the tubes up

[sick viper]

makes sense though now that I think of it, but I saw what other people did and screwed it in without thinking

the slight gurgling let me know it is working

oh when I turned it on the first time the pc flickered about 4 times evenly

I need to get that 8 pin x 3 gpu cable. I tried my best but I dont like how the 3 daisy chain pcie cables look

[sick viper]

fixed

[light gazelle]

can I use a 650 w psu on a 600 w pc

[tulip granite]

???? huh??? yes

do u mean if ur PC uses 600W, can you use a 600W PC. Yes, personally I wouldnt, I'd get a 900W going by the 33% rule

[tulip granite]

is this a 420?

and what cpu

[ember marsh]

OK so I have my case now. Only issue I'm having is idk how to mount my aio on the top.

[tulip granite]

the aio should come with mounting screws, consult the manual

and generally u want it on exhast if its uptop

ideally, fans on the side of the radiator that is closer to the top of the case

[ember marsh]

I'll send a picture in a second. But the only screw holes that line up are the middle ones. So it would mean I'd have to screw the other screws into some wack shaped areas

[tulip granite]

i gotta go for a bit but I will check back when I can

[sick viper]

this is a Thermaltake P3

Using a Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 850W

[sick viper]

kinda kicking myself though for not just buying the latest make, the P3 Pro as it has a place to mount fans on the front

[blissful thistle]

What is the cpu and gpu

If the pc is estimating 600w, id imagine it's something like 6950xt, 7900xt, 3080, etc

In which case I'd at minimum consider 750w

And model of psu also plays a very major role

[tulip granite]

no i mean th aio, what size is it

[sick viper]

huge

360mm

about 40cm in length and 15 in width

[upbeat dew]

i think 33% is a bit too much imo, i usually go like extra 20% at most. but in any case that will only affect your budget, more headroom is always better if you plan to expand on a near future

as bacca san said, if your average is 600 i should go 750 at least 🙂

[tulip granite]

noted

[upbeat dew]

nothing wrong going overboard anyway cause wattage is not pushed but draw, just that it can hurt your budget for other potential upgrades

[severe zenith]

extra 20% is ideal

[light gazelle]

is a fan less psu bad

[elfin trout]

Depends on the model

[sick viper]

this case isnt bad but it has some quirks that the newer version if it doesnt have, it almost makes me want to return it

though I could put in a little work and modify the case for it

though the only main differences between the thermaltake p3 and the p3 pro is the usb c connection, a bracket for securing a large GPU, and a way to mount an AIO to the bars that support the tempered glass

[sick viper]

getting the pro version

[lime oriole]

Would this PSU be good for a 1060 GPU, and a Ryzen 5 5600?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R4Gbt6/corsair-rm750-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020231-na

[blissful thistle]

Extremely overkill but yes

Though $70 after Mir is nice for that psu

Hell $90 for an A tier 750 isn't bad right now as is

[lime oriole]

Yeah it's for a friend and it's mostly to give him a bit of leeway since he's most likely going to upgrade his GPU within the next year or so

But it's $110 which I'm not entirely sure if that's worth the price or not

I'm not the best at judging if something is a good deal lol

[blissful thistle]

Oh so its $90 after mir

If he doesn't care about white, you can do better

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IUQRPQS?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

Also https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mgvdnQ/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-snow-tt-premium-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagx-w

@lime oriole

[lime oriole]

Damn that's sick

Yeah he's not a stickler for color or anything like that

Me and his brother are pretty much upgrading it for his birthday so I don't think he really cares about colors because he just wants a PC to work lol

[blissful thistle]

Then either would be great

That first one is amazingly priced right now

It's an A tier psu if I remember right, which is the highest tier

List is pinned in this channel

[lime oriole]

Nice! I really appreciate it!

[blissful thistle]

Actually give me a few

I might be wrong about it being A tier

As far as I can tell it's either A or B

[lime oriole]

I mean that's still a pretty solid PSU though

[blissful thistle]

Yes, great for the price

[sick viper]

a pcie cable compatible with thermaltake psu that can neatly connect to 3 gpu ports?

is there such a thing

[fierce pivot]

Nope, they're seperate for a reason, because the cables are only rated for about 150w per 8 pin

[sick viper]

more something that bundles them together from the get go

I have three of those daisy-chain pcie cables

[warm sleet]

Is anyone using the ABEE SMART EM30 - ATX case? Like / Dislike?

https://www.newegg.com/silver-abee-smart-atx-m-atx-mini-itx/p/2AM-04DP-00005?Item=9SIB129FGD1113

[tulip granite]

horrible value, why do u need a $500 + case

[mild roost]

it doesn't seem to have any advantages that warrants such a price tag

[blissful thistle]

Yeah like said above this case is just silly

[mild roost]

instead of paying 500

you can look for cases like fractal design terra

now that's an itx case

[serene siren]

Basically a scam.

[warm sleet]

Thank you so much! Everything in the industry may or may not have real value. Outside of the cost - what does the end-user feel about the case?

[serene siren]

Looks like a normal case with a gimmick

A gimmick definitely not worth 9 times the value of a normal box

[plucky citrus]

Yeah gotta be careful, many things are scam

[sick viper]

i just realized

my tt p3 pro

has the USB ports inverted

they manufactured it with the usb ports inserted upside-down

that is weird

[mint wave]

My friend has this psu from his new PC and his breaker in his room is tripping lately, the breaker is 15 amps, is the PSU causing it?

[mint wave]

Corsair 750w gold if that matters

This is his prebuilt: https://www.newegg.com/abs-sa13700kf4070ti-stratos-aqua/p/N82E16883360401

[hollow leaf]

It could be.. does he have the PC plugged into a surge protector?

[sand atlas]

That's 15A at 120V, which is 1800W. There's no way the PC alone will trip the breaker, it's going to be a combination of multiple devices on the same breaker.
Using my kitchen as an example, I can run my electric kettle just fine. But if I run my microwave at the same time, the breaker trips.

A common cause is an electric heater

[urban tulip]

cough cough radeon cards and intel cpus cough cough

[sand atlas]

Well yes, a 4090 with a 13900k would make a great replacement for an electric heater

Or a XTX

I used to heat my room in winter with my pc. My roommate was always surprised that I would leave the window open with snow outside.

And it would still be warmer in my room than his with a little electric heater

[hollow leaf]

I will be sealing all the little cracks in my room to see if I can heat my room this year.

I think there are/were 2 big culprits to cold air coming in.

1 was from where the AC was installed and had a thin rolled up foam insulation stuffed in the 4-5in sides. I have since replaced with a bigger AC and used gap sealer so I know it's air tight.

The other culprit is the bottom of my door. I am not sure how I am going to go about sealing that up other than putting a blanket or something.

[sand atlas]

https://www.amazon.com/Holikme-Stopper-Weather-Stripping-Adjustable/dp/B082W6F8DJ

With that you can still use the door normally and it'll help seal the door

[hollow leaf]

sadly, I have carpet.

[sand atlas]

Still works, just won't be perfectly air tight

It'll just be mostly air tight

[hollow leaf]

and it'll work on a door that leads outside?

[sand atlas]

Yeah

[hollow leaf]

alright, I'll order it and set it aside for when the weather starts to get cold

just a little worried it'll interere with the part of the door that

[sand atlas]

Something like this might be better for an exterior facing door https://www.amazon.com/M-D-Building-Products-68247-Commercial/dp/B000I1AREA

[hollow leaf]

kinda scrapes against my carpet

ah

I'll add that to cart as well. I'll finish cleaning room and think about which one may be best

[sand atlas]

There's also this if you don't want to drill the door https://www.amazon.com/MAXTID-Stopper-Blocker-Underdoorseal-Soundproof/dp/B09GF8Z6FJ

[hollow leaf]

well, tbh. I don't own the place, but I have free will to do whatever I want so I'm ok with drilling holes into anything lol

I was told when I moved in.. "do whatever you want" "if there is stuff in there you don't want.. throw it away" "When you leave, take everything, even if you didn't bring it in" and my favorite response to my question about building an addon to the wall for my tv "Do you see holes in the walls? We don't care".

It's partially why I'm still here.

I don't pay water/electricity/cable

been here 2 years xD

[sand atlas]

Well exterior doors tend to be basically a metal box with insulation inside so it might be tricky to drill without the right bits

[hollow leaf]

I have a nice wooden door lol

[sand atlas]

Perfect then

[hollow leaf]

well not.. nice

but it's wooden

[vestal wharf]

so psu teir list

the rm850 2021 version is in tier a right?

[elfin trout]

Yes

[blissful thistle]

Every variant of the RM is A tier

[mild roost]

rm series is fairly recent unit, and they're pretty decently built so automatically a tier

[vestal wharf]

alr, thanks yall