cases-psu-and-cooling

[blissful thistle]

or this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/m3HRsY/cooler-master-masterwatt-750w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-mpx-7501-amaabus

[sand atlas]

Yep that little extra is good for peace of mind and upgrade room

[coarse moss]

Alright thank you so much

[blissful thistle]

masterwatt is C tier as well, but the extra wattage should give the 6700 enough headroom

next step up would probably be this, but not really much better than cxm https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/qt3H99/cooler-master-mwe-bronze-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-mpx-6501-acaab-us

cxm will def be fine with a 6700, but it's known for having coil whine

[coarse moss]

Aight you guys helped a lot. I have a friend building a pc and the PSU he wanted wasn't available.

[timid basin]

it's also the old version

which was discontinued years ago

[coarse basin]

should i get corsair bronze 750W or gold 650W

[blissful thistle]

what models

[coarse basin]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JkKKHx/corsair-cx750m-2021-750-w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020222-na

[sand atlas]

CXm is decent enough but what gpu and cpu?

[coarse basin]

I5-12400f and radeon 6700xt

[sand atlas]

I'd do this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zDMTwP/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0650fnfagu-1

[coarse basin]

thx

[coarse basin]

what other mobos could run well with i5-12400

[sand atlas]

If you're looking cheaper DS3H is fine

There's a wifi model too, the AX

Just keep in mind it limits your upgrade options later

[coarse basin]

ok thank u

[static bolt]

I just bought a lian li pe750 and it doesn't come with any cables. I was wondering what kind of cables would work with it?

@balmy badge

[sand atlas]

It's really supposed to come with cables. Buying new ones will cost you a LOT and you'll be buying from cablemod or moddiy.

That's also an outdated, discontinued model.

[static bolt]

Yea ik

[coarse basin]

good cases for around $1100 build?

[serene siren]

Fractal focus 2

[unreal portal]

My power supply blew up, am I able to buy a replacement and move on or is it possible another component caused it to blow up?

[mild roost]

The cause is just the psu being bad

But a psu blowing up can bring down other components too

Try to visually check all parts for damage

Then get another psu to test

[sand atlas]

Only way to know if anything else got cascade failures is to test it

[timid basin]

It depends on which half it failed if any components are potentially affected

As the AC and DC sides are physically isolated from each other

Check for physical damage, blown fuses, melted connectors and so on

[arctic summit]

Y’all think a pcie5 atx3.0 power supply with a dedicated 12vphwr port is necesary for a 4090?

[mild roost]

nope

[idle fiber]

is a 650w psu enough for a r5 7600x and a rx 6700xt?

[blissful thistle]

depending on model, yes

there's some 1000w psus I wouldnt put a 6500xt on

[elder mantle]

My setup is: ASUS Z690 MB, 32 gig DDR5 RAM, Intel I9 12900, GEFORCE RTX 3070 TI VENTUS 3X 8G OC, 2 1 TB SSD and a CORSAIR RM850x. My question is, is the PSU large enough to handle my listed setup?

[serene siren]

Mhm

[blissful thistle]

Easily

You could throw a 4080 in there and be fine, possible a 4090

[elder mantle]

excellent, thank you for the help.

[blissful thistle]

Actually, likely a 4090 if you're gaming. 12900 won't pull that much gaming, and rmx is a great psu

[elder mantle]

It is primarily a gaming setup, WOW, Elden Ring, Red Dead Redemption, Tomb Raider. I like running them all at close to max for the GPU.

[past harbor]

4090 if 4k, 4080 plenty for anything below that imo.

[fierce pivot]

If you haven't bought any of that I'd change a lot of these parts btw

[steady walrus]

What PSU would you guys reccomend for a 13700k and a 4080?

[blissful thistle]

There's a tier list pinned here, any A tier 850w imo

A 750 should do it but I'd go 850

[lapis rivet]

So got the ASUS Thor 850W PSU for Christmas, and have the 4000X RGB case...anyone have tips on "making a window" in the shroud here to show off the side lighting and screen of the PSU? I'm going back and forth on whether or not I should even do it lol

[vocal tree]

When you cut it, leave some material inside the square for curling back maybe

So you can create an edge that isn't sharp

[upbeat dew]

or just... you know.... sand the edges?

[upbeat dew]

yeah if you have a thor unit then you need to drill a big square in your case to make it worth

no point in a thor unit if you dont have a psu window anyway..

[lapis rivet]

Yeah my exact thinking...If I knew a year before when I got the case, I wouldnt have gone with the 4000X ha...but @vocal tree good idea with curling the edges

[upbeat dew]

curling the edges seems like a lot of work to me, and a lot of ways to go wrong, just cut the rectangle and sand the edges... some new paint job and done

[fierce pivot]

Make sure you take all the pc parts out of the case before you do any cutting, and I'd bring it outside if possible while doing it

[upbeat dew]

and use all the protective gear

we dont want missing fingers

[lapis rivet]

Yeah definitely would take everything out of the case...I dont want to risk metal shavings getting into anything and shorting things out

[lapis rivet]

haha thats going to be me

[upbeat dew]

👍

luckily a dremel will be enough, and the sandpaper, and a can of spray

[lapis rivet]

Yeah I think I will go with the dremel cut, then sand then touch up paint on the exposed aluminum

[lapis rivet]

ha yes 😉

[fierce pivot]

Yeah that's exactly what i was worrying about

But yeah proper ventilation

[upbeat dew]

someday i will buy spray paint to do a paint job on my case :3 its a white canvas and im not using it properly

white case go brrrrrrrr

[lunar root]

Nah live on the edge have pc with sharp edges

[bleak holly]

To get a flat even line I recommend using a ruler and some tape to use as a marker and make sure to move it a little inward of the edge as sanding will take some metal off and Incase you mess something up you got some shaving room left.

[lapis rivet]

Thanks! I'll definitely remember that when I start out

[gray wren]

Hi guys can anyone help me on how i can view my psu voltage live? if is possible

[urban tulip]

What do you mean by PSU voltage?

The input voltage from the wall, the output 12v, 5v, etc?

[gray wren]

I mean like the rivatuner thing that i can view the watts

[urban tulip]

Hwinfo64 would have a ton of sensors then

[gray wren]

Watts sprry i said voltage

[urban tulip]

Hwinfo64 best for in detail by far

[sand atlas]

Hwinfo will tell you voltage too lol

[urban tulip]

Yea

[elfin trout]

Hwinfo64 aida64 afterburner, you can use rtss with any of them and get that info

[gray wren]

Hwinfo64 on google for download?

Ok thank ypu bros

[lofty pewter]

I'd also use some sort of air compressor and magnets (if case metal is magnetic) to remove metal shavings too.

[lunar root]

What's perif

[past harbor]

Hook up what* doesn't have sata connectors & you'll find out.

[sand atlas]

Generally it's 4 pin molex

And the old floppy connector

[past harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/giant-pieces-of-crap-michael-kupris-become-the-knight-huge-trash-piece-of-trash-gif-19971550

[lunar root]

🤔

[timid basin]

the actual name for what people refer to as "Molex"

a connector ironically designed by AMP

[lunar root]

🤔

[lunar root]

🤔 is this to much

theres also this one

[sand atlas]

That's pretty good for 1600W

[past harbor]

Personally I'll have a hard time not just getting rm1000x, or 1000w G6/g7 or such. Still waiting for evga psu prices not be poopoo.

[lunar root]

Are they poo poo idk what tier

[past harbor]

Soild B-tier though. I have a G+ 650w as backup.

[lunar root]

Oh okay just wanted to make sure it is less

But I can always look for some more I just screenshotted thos they looks nice

[sand atlas]

Remember that more Watts also means larger power supplies, those get really long and can be incompatible with a lot of cases

[lunar root]

Only maybe I'll look at 1000W

Or 1200

[sand atlas]

There's always this, A tier Corsair https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KnYmP6/corsair-rm1000e-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020250-na

You can get the 12+4 pin cable for it too since it's Corsair, that way you're not using the ugly adapter

[lunar root]

[lunar root]

only 4 slots tho

[sand atlas]

The corsair cable I mentioned uses 2

[lunar root]

oh you said 12+4 ooooo 16 cable

[sand atlas]

Yes the 12VHPWR 16 pin (12+4)

Because I know you wanted a 40 series lol

[lunar root]

Yea

[lunar root]

@sand atlas yea i just found this photo ill only have little bit more room before i get that metal piece

[cloud coyote]

what is the wierd bag that says do not eat that came with my psu

[upbeat dew]

dunno, but best not to eat

[fierce pivot]

Silica gel

10/10 (if you wanna poison yourself)

[sand atlas]

It absorbs moisture

[wide parrot]

I once accidentally left one of those in my freeze dried meal while camping

Didn't eat it but it did sit in there for 10-15 min after I added the water and let it rehydrate

[vocal tree]

You can get edible ones

They're not silica, they're candy, but still

[brave niche]

Is there a full tower version of iBuyPower's snowblind case?

[midnight latch]

/imagine

[sand atlas]

We don't have that bot

[vocal tree]

But you can use your imagination

[sand atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-imagination-rainbow-happy-gif-4596954

[runic urchin]

morning people. haven't assembled my new parts yet, but my current rig (13yo) has started spontaenously powering off.. it's not overheating. my first guess is the psu is dying. the ups doesn't appear to be having any trouble, but that could always be a possibility too... so i'm thinking of putting an extra device on the ups for now, like a desk lamp... and if it happens again and the lamp goes out.. that should help point the finger at the ups.. and if not, then it's more likely the psu

[blissful thistle]

That's a good idea

It could also be something like a loose connection

[runic urchin]

possible.. but the only way i could see a loose connection creeping into a computer that hasn't moved in 6 years would be something like silver creep

[sharp remnant]

have any of you made cases?

out of wood or another material you like

[runic urchin]

got a desk lamp up now. if i get a spontaneous loss of power again, i should be able to tell if the bump is in the psu or the ups

[wide parrot]

If your monitor turns off as well it's probably the power source, if it stays on then it's the psu or some other component

[vagrant lantern]

any one can recommend a decent powersupply at the price between 50 - 100$?

[late inlet]

@vagrant lantern how much do you need?

[vagrant lantern]

750

[mild roost]

What's your system's specs?

Can't go guessing how much wattage you'll need without knowing the specs of everything

[scenic lance]

Is the NR200P mod the only dual itx option 🤔

[late inlet]

@vagrant lantern This is probably your best bet.https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rm750e-750-w/p/N82E16817139300?Item=N82E16817139300&quicklink=true

[runic urchin]

Hard part is telling whether the black screen is power or loss of signal. There's no led on the front to tell otherwise, and they come back on automatically when the PC is powered back on

[scenic lance]

🤔

[fierce pivot]

You could just use 2 itx cases lol

[candid moth]

Wanted to get some cablemod cables just because they look super nice, but I'm not familiar with how it works.

https://www.enermax.com/en/products/revolution-d.f.-850w

This is my PSU, and I can't find it on there

If I had to guess does that mean it's not supported?

Just wondering if there's anywhere else I could get some

[fierce pivot]

Correct

[fierce pivot]

You could get extensions they're universal

[candid moth]

That'd make cable management even worse 😭 but fair

Just wanted them cause they look clean

Maybe someday they'll support 🙏

[fierce pivot]

Probs not enermax is a relatively small brand compared to other psu companies

Although i did hear somewhere that it unofficially had either the same or similar pinout as a different psu although i wouldn't risk

[candid moth]

I'd rather not risk. I found some dude saying he made his own pinout for them or something

https://imgur.com/gallery/hcb5zfw

But no clue what any of this even means

[scenic lance]

More space 🧌

But no really technically yeah 😭

[timid basin]

You can get Corsair type 4 on it

However, Cablemod has not tested it themselves, hence they don't support it

[upbeat dew]

seems like the g6 series is about to be extinct

🧐

[steady walrus]

Is the 12VHPWR connector cable mostly just for aesthetics?

[mild roost]

Not really, it has a function but you don't need the PSU to have it

Can always use the cable that comes with the gpu, as long as the psu has enough 8 pin connectors to power it

[past harbor]

Yeah there might be a successor soon. The newer fsp-made G7 (like G5) is actually really good. If I have to, might do a g6/p6 from Ebay. There's a few nice ones for $100-115, even if used.

[mild roost]

The adapter will take care of everything for you, but make sure to plug it into the gpu fully in

Double, and triple check if you want to

[timid basin]

Was discontinued months ago, actually

EVGA basically only produces with FSP now

[timid basin]

Pretty much, as the included adapters are way overbuilt

[urban tulip]

Common Evga L

[mild roost]

Overbuilt yet not very idiot proof

It's kinda ironic imo but whatever

[urban tulip]

So what's their next thing? They're barely in motherboards, they aren't really into Psu's a ton, and they're out of GPUs now

Idk what EVGA is doing

[mild roost]

Just don't have skill issue and you won't have any melting

[timid basin]

They moved some of the GPU division to PSUs at least

So they now actually have an R&D instead of the OEM dice

[urban tulip]

thats good atleast

not that they have a ton of choices nowadays lol in terms of oem

[timid basin]

Oh, they definitely should've kept Andyson

Hooo boy they could make something awesome with the right team behind them

[urban tulip]

yeah

[timid basin]

Because they basically went from being Andysonic as a joke to Andysonic in reality

Because they now have the production capacity of Seasonic with better equipment and a will to modify as long as you pay

[urban tulip]

i actually liked when evga was cutting ties with oems since we got some sweet deals on discontinued units

[timid basin]

Upgraded everything to be ready for RMe production, but Corsair ended up choosing HEC as they can do more inhouse

But a modified PAD01 would make a great midrange unit

[urban tulip]

for sure

whats the reason behind the general rise of psus somewhat recently? supply stuff?

[timid basin]

Probably Chinese newyear screwing with supply?

That's the main thing I'm thinking of

[urban tulip]

i still remember the days you could get a rev df 850 for $100

or the bitfenix formula golds, but those were kinda a special thing

[timid basin]

I just don't pay for my PSUs anymore

[urban tulip]

bummer

[candid moth]

Would it actually work? Don't wanna risk anything 😭

[timid basin]

I've seen people doing it, but I can't give you official confirmation

[candid moth]

I'll ask around on a few forums to see if I can get someone who did it themselves

[violet rock]

was G6 the one that had bait and switch?

i remember jon testing like 3 of them and all of them dying so he got sus

dont remember if it was G6 or another unit

[fierce pivot]

Afaik no, g6 was a great psu

[sand atlas]

I don't think that was any EVGA power supply but there are a few that got caught sending cherry picked units for certifications

[upbeat dew]

g6 IS a great psu

[edgy flume]

is a 550W psu enough for a 6650XT and 5800X3D?

[upbeat dew]

it will work, but you are kinda pushing it

you should go 650w at the bare minimum

[edgy flume]

alr

i got a 750i

but

no wires

[upbeat dew]

ok thats a problem

most if not all units dont share cable configs

[edgy flume]

o

How do i get specific cables thatll work in it

nvm i forgot i asked a corsair support dude

and he showed me some cables that will work

hopefulu

Hopefully*

[blissful thistle]

it will be fine

[blissful thistle]

nah not really

that would likely be fine on a 400

[edgy flume]

will it work even if its like

2 1/2 years old

[upbeat dew]

well if bacca san say that, then its fine

[blissful thistle]

what is the model

that's the important part

[edgy flume]

digital storm

from a prebuilt

[blissful thistle]

Digital storm is the model of the psu?

[edgy flume]

brand

ill check model rn

it just says digital storm

on it

[fierce pivot]

They do have some psus for their prebuilts as custom branded ye

Idk who the oem is tho, maybe luke knows

[blissful thistle]

My guess would be that it's fine

But I can't say for sure

[fierce pivot]

Hey @timid basin do you have any info on the digital storm PSUs?

[edgy flume]

might be different now

as the pc i bought was awhile ago and isnt sold anymore

[urban tulip]

See if you can take a picture of the sticker showing the voltages and rated amps/watts

That'll atleast tell us a bit about it

[mint terrace]

Played a game like Everspace 2 and Fortnite, I got a Kernel 41 (63) every time while playing a game like that. Tried different possible solutions.
I havent tested the RAM yet but Im reading Kernel 41 while gaming shuts off tech forums...various tech forums they've all pointed to a PSU failure
One might say it's either not enough cooling that causes system to shut down or the PSU
I've turned fans to max and see if it helps with cooling, if it does that again. I'm slapping back the old Thermaltake that it came in with prebuilt parts.

And if the PSU is the issue then I will contact the manfuncatuer either a RMA or maybe a refund.

HUH. So my 3070 Ti alone pulls 250-255 W that might be the problem?

[mild roost]

which psu do you have?

[mint terrace]

https://a.co/d/8RUNoch

[mild roost]

that's odd

revo df can power anything

[mint terrace]

Get this, it ran no issues with Intel i5 10

switched to Ryzen 5 5600x with B550 F

Kernel 41 (63) was encountered on this AMD build.

[mild roost]

well that's on amd tbh

i would try updating bios first just to see if it solves anything

[mint terrace]

I updated BIOS.

[sand atlas]

?ddu

[final patio]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[sand atlas]

A good step to narrow things down

[mild roost]

^

[mint terrace]

Done that. Noticed 3070Ti pulls 280 Watts. Is that not a problem especially with Enermax being weird with high draw gpu on a multi rail?

[mild roost]

Nah

Multi rail doesn't mean it's automatically bad

[mint terrace]

Let me rephrase, 3070ti isn't even close to being a high draw power GPU right?

[mild roost]

It is, but it's fine for that psu

[past harbor]

Look at my name, no issues w/ a 650w G3. -- extra 200w on that revo DF should be good.

[mint terrace]

I see and lol good to know

[lofty pewter]

Do you have both CPU and GPU plugged into the 3rd 12v rail?

[mint terrace]

I'd have to take a close look after clearing out the spaghetti cables.

one momento - gonna shut down my game

[past harbor]

5600x sure doesn't need a 2nd cpu cable btw.

[mint terrace]

The motherboard B550 F has two cpu ports so I thought it needed both to power it

[mint terrace]

Yes it is

[lofty pewter]

Ideally you dont want the two highest powered components on the same rail.
Also cuz you have two, is it the EPS 8P or EPS 4P that is plugged into 12v3 (EPS is CPU)?

[mint terrace]

Would it be ok to just send photo so to easier see for yourself?

[past harbor]

Sure. I would also just use a single 8pin eps/cpu on that 12v2 spot, ignoring a 2nd cpu cable.

[lofty pewter]

Cuz ur using two EPS cables my doubts about triggering OCP (Over Current Protection) on a single rail are now pretty low. But still might be possible with high transients (power spikes).

[mint terrace]

Excuse the spaghetti mess

[mint terrace]

So is this what caused the Kernel 41 (63)?

[past harbor]

I'm just thinkin wouldn't hurt to remove this:

[mint terrace]

And 5600x does truly not need an second cpu cable?

I see. Second cpu cable was for overlocking eh?

[past harbor]

Heavy oc. Single 8pin eps is good for 288w or something like that.

[lofty pewter]

Im now highly doubtful you were getting OCP on any rail as your GPU power was split between two rails.

[lofty pewter]

iirc closer to 360w - 390w

[mint terrace]

That doesn’t come close to my regular gaming sessions

Cpu pulls like what 60 W?

[lofty pewter]

With PBO a 5600 is like ~100w on stress tests

[mint terrace]

So splitting the gpu power is bad on two rails?

And pbo?

[lofty pewter]

No. Splitting power between rails lessens the load on each rail. So each rail is less likely to trigger OCP and shut down the system.
PBO is Precision Boost Overdrive, AMD CPU OC.

[mint terrace]

Gotcha. So just remove second the cpu cable and see if problem goes away completely?

[lofty pewter]

Anyways, what Im trying to say is that it is extremely unlikely to be the PSU or PSU "config" that is causing this issue. Basically there is like a less then 0.1% chance this will fix anything, but idk a chance is still a chance ig.

[mint terrace]

Would it not hurt to relocate the gpu cables to 2nd rails and have cpu/mobo to 1st rail?

Just to split up the power and keep it balanced?

[lofty pewter]

If you want the most balanced config
-mobo/perif in 12v1 (no other choice)
-CPU in 12v2
-GPU1 in 12v3
-GPU2 in 12v4

[past harbor]

Ignore red circles now, but check your 24pin as I think it's not 100% in

[lofty pewter]

That said, doesnt really matter. Just dont want worst case config (which now that Im thinking about it, I hecked up cuz under normal circumstances one cant reach 40a limit anyways. Need GPU to pull power far beyond normal limits and a high power CPU with one EPS in 12v3).

I got a bit too use to thinking about OC power numbers. Even worst case config with your components will never be an issue unless PSU lemon.

pg13 lol

[mint terrace]

Well, crap. Didn’t see the mb not being in 100%

[past harbor]

G*, could say that on a pg13 movie.

[mint terrace]

Might have moved while I was doing a mobo swap

[past harbor]

Btw the red circles are where I was gonna ask if you were gonna move that one to the empty spot, but nvrmind. W/ 24pin fixed and perhaps the 2nd cpu unplugged I wonder if we're good.

[mint terrace]

Yeah let’s see, now to untangle this spaghetti mess and sort it out before closing it up and powering it on

Second question.

[lofty pewter]

I give it a 1.e-5% chance it'll be fixed after the changes from config "issue".
I give it a 1.e-3% chance it'll be fixed after the cable is fully plugged in.

I really dont think any of this is the issue, but still as said before, chance is still a chance.

[mint terrace]

This is cpu pins I only need to remove the small 4x one yeah?

[sand atlas]

Yes

[mint terrace]

PSU cables reorganized. PC starts up no issue.

Let's see what happens and if that fails, I'ma just get my prebuilt old psu and swap it back in and see how it goes.

[lofty pewter]

tbf I just feel like it AMD CPU being AMD. Old CPU worked without issue and is not far off in power consumption then current CPU, and AMD is kinda still plagued with random issues that never get fixed.

[timid basin]

depends on the wire gauge and terminals used

you can push around 460w with HCS+16AWG assuming a very worst case of 11.4V

[mint terrace]

Guy who sold it to me said he never had this Kernel 41 (63) problem. So it’s either my hardware or the software

[blissful thistle]

Or he's lying

[mint terrace]

His reason selling it was to switch to Dddr5 motherboard.

[fresh pilot]

My girlfriend has a TG01-2030,2021
What all do i have to upgrade to switch cases..

• I already have a case for it.. i know i have to buy a new mobo and more ram but do i have to get a new power supply? I already got a new ssd and already have a cpu cooler for it

[sand atlas]

Yes you need a new power supply too

[fresh pilot]

Thanks

[serene siren]

Ok well this is fun. I think my psu has just comitted seppuku

XTX is fine, motherboard is fine. The psu keeps immediately tripping

Like it's detected a short

[sand atlas]

Well the next troubleshooting step is to try it in another system

[serene siren]

I noticed the rgb was like, not staying on one colour yesterday

It was doing almost technicolor stuff

[sand atlas]

If it starts and dies that might be the power_ok signal failing

[serene siren]

Yeah immediate start and death

Focus gx 1000w

I've never pushed it to above it's limits, I have parts that could but never ever done it

What ima do is plug it into another outlet. This seems weird

It's basically doing what the PGM gigabyte did

[sand atlas]

Except when PGM died it went up in smoke and never turned on again

[serene siren]

Mine never magic smoked

It just wouldn't turn on again like ever lol

At least, I don't remember smoke

[sand atlas]

Mine didn't smoke but one did POP and trip a circuit breaker

And that was just jumping it with a paperclip, not even in a system

Oh yeah, that's another test for you

Paperclip jump it outside the system and check 12V power with a multimeter

[serene siren]

Yeah I was thinking that

Like it just had to break today it couldn't wait 2 more days

Ugh

[lofty pewter]

I'd check all rails tbf.

12v, 5v, 3.3v, 5v standby

[serene siren]

I'm thinking it's 5V cos the rgb was doing half technicolor

[sand atlas]

If you want to be thorough sure

[serene siren]

If it's psu

But I'm trying another outlet first

All kettle cables are born equal right?

[sand atlas]

Yes

[serene siren]

Ok good, takes 5 minutes then

Booted fine in the other room

Ok it's dirty input

Ez fix ez life

IM SO GLAD

Wow actually it booted to windows quicker than it was doing before (5 min?)

Poor seasonic, finally had enough of my bad power

[sand atlas]

Guess it's time to take that multimeter to your wall outlet instead

[serene siren]

Nah my other system is fine (same room)

This will be the powerboard

[sand atlas]

Fine or just less sensitive?

[serene siren]

Fine

I'll be honest, the way I set up the means to power this pc is nasty, so I got what I deserved lol

[sand atlas]

I've heard bad things about that Aussie power, I had to recommend a UPS earlier today even because of frequent outages

[serene siren]

I live next to a power station

[sand atlas]

Well that answers that lol

[serene siren]

Well, next (within view)

So my power is def clean

But I did some dodgy

[sand atlas]

I C

[serene siren]

So I earned this lol

I've run both systems full tilt off the same breaker and not tripped jack

So me just turning on the pc? Nah, it's def the power board I plugged it into

I used to run just a laptop off it, so it made more sense at the time, but now it's a full blown pc and has been for a while lol

Not to mention a 460W KF and an XTX, I'm pushing my limits if I fully unlock the cpu LMAO

Alr so I can probably fix this today then

[serene siren]

I slowly plug everything back into the board and I'm fine????

no way

• hair on back immediately stands on end *

it's even booting normally again, no stupid 5 minute boot time, I thought that was the contact frame\

[serene siren]

I'm super sus rn

[sand atlas]

Huh. Must have been a short circuit after all from a loose cable?

[serene siren]

Everything's plugged back in and it's working with zero problems

It's like the psu had a panic attack and we back

@timid basin thoughts?

Did part of my psu die and now it's just ignoring what happened?

[violet rock]

aussie power grid is good where im at at least

1 blackout every year or so

never had a brown out

but im not in rural, those dudes r still on dial up

[violet rock]

personally, id blame the seasonic unit for making the power dirty

[timid basin]

it... can't "ignore" it, but it could be that something else was shorted out

[serene siren]

Ok maybe not the best word for it, was wondering if maybe the safety was just not working anymore, what I meant by ignore

Cos if anything that the psu quiz taught me, there's a lot of safeties and tests that a psu goes through that I'd need to learn

[timid basin]

yeah, and I mean in a sense that it's not magically gonna disable a safety measure, so it was either a false positive or the thing was actually detecting a short somewhere in the system

[serene siren]

Yeah, I'm def suspicious the short still exists

[timid basin]

doubt it

[serene siren]

Cos I barely disconnected anything tho

[timid basin]

could also be a loose connection somewhere

there are so many things that can cause it

[serene siren]

Yeah I'd believe a loose connection

But it's all seeming to be fine? I just didn't check the pump but temps were fine so idk

Maybe I'm haunted by some weird Australian ghost in my psu

[timid basin]

check if it was upside down

[serene siren]

The ghost? Should I use a right side upward cross?

[timid basin]

yes, obviously

[serene siren]

[mint terrace]

Think I am out of woods with Kernel 41 (63) while gaming on a same game that made system shut off. Yesterday gamed for 9 hrs of uptime no issues. 3 hrs of uptime now no issue

Either DDU or re-arranging the PSU cables helped. Thanks yall 🙂

[serene siren]

Ok same issue happening again

I knew it was too good to be true

[sand atlas]

Aussie ghost is back

Try a full power drain

Flip off PSU, hold power button for 30 seconds, wait 5 minutes, repeat twice

[serene siren]

Ok

[serene siren]

Last repeat

Didn't work yay

[upbeat dew]

ʇsoɥƃ ǝᴉssnɐ ǝɥʇ ɟo pᴉɹ ʇǝƃ oʇ ǝsnoɥ ɹnoʎ uo lɐnʇᴉɹ snoᴉɹǝs ǝɯos ɯɹoɟɹǝd oʇ pǝǝu no⅄

[serene siren]

Trying a different outlet again

Ok now it's repeating the problem

Trying a different kettle cable

Psu is shorting in the pc

It must be a loose cable

Or something like that

Me moving it to the other room stopped the problem so I must've moved it off the short by lifting it and carrying it

[urban tulip]

!spam

/s

[serene siren]

YEY PSU NO BROKEN

Paperclip test was fine

[fierce pivot]

Oh my bad i was haunting it

[hollow leaf]

What was causing the short then?

Something inside the psu?

[serene siren]

I put it to one side and went off to relax and watch anime

Nothing inside the psu is broken afaik, nothing is loose

So the best answer is the short one

[hollow leaf]

Lol

Watch.. my cursed PC somehow sent it's bad juju to you.

[fierce pivot]

Dw mine currently doesn't restart properly

Or wake from sleep

[hollow leaf]

Mine never goes into sleep.

[hollow leaf]

Just hangs?

[serene siren]

Wow comatose pc

The chloroform really works

[fierce pivot]

No the uh fans etc get going just no proper boot

Cursed

[fierce pivot]

No white LED

[hollow leaf]

Rip

[fierce pivot]

Ye

[hollow leaf]

Is it a windows issue then?

[fierce pivot]

Think it's the contact frame o hope's

[hollow leaf]

Oh

[sand atlas]

MINE TOO wtf is up with that?
I have to shift click restart and hit shutdown from there.

If I tell it to sleep it wakes instantly

If I try a regular shutdown or restart it just logs me off

[upbeat dew]

weird indeed, my a-pro blinks red and orange... and then white led, then all of them turn off and bam! windows desktop

and zero issues to shut down or restart the pc

im pretty sure is not windows

[fierce pivot]

Mine just fails yo restart in any manor though, if i click shift restart, it does its failed boot then i have to shut down via power button then turn back on and I'm in windows menu or whatever

[upbeat dew]

thats... kinda weird

[fierce pivot]

Yeah i think my contact frame is not pushing down on a certain pin enough so gonna try tighten a smidge

[upbeat dew]

could be a thing, yeah

[edgy flume]

Whats better, 500DX or 4000D airflow wise

Down to the last 2

[sand atlas]

4000D

[next knot]

what is a good 500watt psu for a 6600?

[sand atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xLtKHx/apevia-prestige-600-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-atx-rp600w

Cheaper than most decent 500W ones

[next knot]

thx

[timid basin]

eh... meh

[timid basin]

cheap:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xQpmP6/thermaltake-smart-bm2-550-w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-spd-0550mnfabu-1

optimal:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n34BD3/enermax-revolution-df-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf650awt

[violet rock]

wow revo is still relevant

wild

[mint terrace]

I run revo df 850w in my build, no issues with intel motherboard build, later switched to Ryzen amd and let’s say I had a little bump that’s it, so far going good.

[sand atlas]

@timid basin I'm sure you've seen it already so what are your thoughts on RMx Shift? Internal layout must be very different to have the cables on the side right?

[timid basin]

Already been reviewed fyi, so you can see the internal layout

The long story short is that is basically what you should expect... A "shifted" RMx

Electrically surprisingly slightly behind CWT CSZ

But all things considered very solid

[sand atlas]

Interesting. I have no reason to doubt it would meet or exceed ATX 3.0 spec then.

As it claims to

[final patio]

Link to the Cultists PSU Tier List
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[valid gyro]

placing hp coputer in front of seam roler

[urban tulip]

Valid 👍

[past harbor]

Shall I? Although, I'm hesitant while both 650 are still going strong for now. W/ 925mV on 3080 pc lately peaks around 410w give or take so even trasients probably won't trip OCP or such.

[fierce pivot]

You selling or buying for that price?

Cuz it buying unless you must have white you can get revolution df for 3$ less brand new from a retailer

[past harbor]

You're right. Probably not quite crazy enough of a deal, even stock 3080 made pc peak 520w & no crashes. I made it so general peak load on the gpu matches it's tdp barely. 👍 -- I also did good skipping the sn850x/770 sales so far. Gonna run sn550 boot & P41 games/storage. Sn550 choked up writing 7+ GB. I'll find out soon if that partially was from the 3770.

[thorn sparrow]

My current PSU (CX750M) seems to only have 2 8 pin connectors for GPU, can I use a splitter to get 3 8 pin connectors for my 4070Ti?

[bleak holly]

I think this is better suited for #graphics-cards.

[sand atlas]

Both apply

[sand atlas]

That should be ok in theory since you'd only be pulling about 225W peak through the cable. I'd see if it'll run with only 2 plugged in first, 12VHPWR should know what to do with that.

[tight patrol]

can someone rec me a sfx psu

i wanted the loki but cant find it anywhere

[sand atlas]

For what GPU and CPU

[tight patrol]

5950x and 3070ti

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q36qqs/cooler-master-v850-sfx-gold-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-mpy-8501-sfhagv-us

maybe?

[sand atlas]

You could get away with a 650W with those parts

[tight patrol]

really?

so i could just do a sf750

[sand atlas]

Yeah, 3070 ti pulls about 400W peak and the 5950X pulls about 200W peak at stock

And you don't usually get both at max at the same time

[tight patrol]

whats best brand for a sf750, and do any happen to have rgb lmfao

[sand atlas]

Lemme check what available

[fierce pivot]

no good 750s on pcpp anyway

[tight patrol]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-750-bp-80-bronze-750w-100-bp-0750-k1-power-supply/6505301.p?skuId=6505301

?

[sand atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3ZzhP6/lian-li-sp-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-sp750
If you want the extra breathing room of 750W

Could do this for 650W https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DZDJ7P/enermax-revolution-sfx-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-erv650swt

[tight patrol]

gonna go with this one i think

really struggling to make my new case work so hopefully that helps

speaking of anyone with a ssupd meshlicious had the front panel not stick?

or find something for using the hdmi and display port in the case/

?*

struggling with clearance

[fierce pivot]

my bad i am clearly blind read 750s as 850w's

[thorn sparrow]

I feel like it applies to both, but I understand what you are saying. Thank you

[tight patrol]

anyone?

[fierce pivot]

What do you mean the panel won't stick doesn't it click in ?

[rough plover]

Hi guys, can someone give me a good PSU SFX for a ryzen 9 7900x + RTX 4070 ti? max 200 $

[fierce pivot]

What country?

[rough plover]

UE => Romania

[fierce pivot]

I'm not sure where you can buy stuff there but anything on the A or B tier that's 750w or more in green text
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[rough plover]

yeah, ty ^.^ i need to find something with ATX 3.0 ready

because i find something from Lian Li is ATX 3.0 but have just 12 pins instead of 16

[serene siren]

You might have better luck getting an atx 2.0 psu then getting a custom 12vhpwr from moddiy made specifically for that psu instead

Safer that way too, only one 12vhpwr plug that could melt or fail, not two

[fierce pivot]

Nah you could just use the adaptor or if you need the space because sff, corsair sf they have a connector for the 12 pin although it's not actually atx 3.0
https://www.corsair.com/eu/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/12-pin-GPU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920274

[rough plover]

yeah, but this one have just pins and RTX 4070 TI need 16, no?

[fierce pivot]

Some companies count the 4 sense pins in their pin count, some dont

Same connector

[bleak holly]

Have any of the PSU makers made a adaptor that doesn't look like a rats nest yet?

[bleak holly]

Are there any issues with the Corsair HX1500i?

[mild roost]

nope

absolutely none

it's a top end psu

often not good value but a nice unit

[bleak holly]

One of the view PSUs I found in Mexico with a high wattage that doesn't have massive import fees.

Few*

[mild roost]

go for it then

[bleak holly]

Aight.

Also I took a peekaboo on Cablemod and geez that can get expensive fast.

[fierce pivot]

Price

[bleak holly]

$400

[fierce pivot]

Yeah that's the problem

[bleak holly]

Question, how good is Corsair's 10 year warranty?

[blissful thistle]

Its.... 10 years long

[bleak holly]

I mean like if the PSU stops working or causes damage to the system what will they do?

[fierce pivot]

Probably replace/repair like any other warranty

[urban tulip]

Depends on the reason it stops working

[valid gyro]

od ? is a 4 tb sada to big for a older sys

sata

wanting to go to a singel hd insted of 2 but ill have a 2 tb external

[sand atlas]

Depends on how old the system is. If it's Windows XP old then it will only recognize 2TB drives.

[valid gyro]

ok hang on

asrock bord n6cc its running win 10 now

[sand atlas]

I have no idea what n6cc is supposed to mean

[valid gyro]

AM2 processors: AMD Phenom™ FXN68-S UCC
Phenom II X6 6-Core CPU Ready
Supports UCC feature (Unlock CPU Core)
Hyper Transport 2000 MT/s
Supports Dual Channel DDR2 1066
Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 graphics, DX9.0 VGA, Pixel Shader 3.0, Max. shared memory 256MB
Supports ASRock XFast RAM, XFast LAN, XFast USB Technologies
Supports Instant Boot, Instant Flash, OC DNA, ASRock OC Tuner (Up to 132% CPU frequency increase)
Supports Intelligent Energy Saver (Up to 20% CPU Power Saving)
Free Software : CyberLink DVD Suite - OEM and Trial; Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi MB - Trial this is what i have now

[mild roost]

okay so it's a pretty old system

should still work with 4tb of storage

you're running win 10 on it

[valid gyro]

yes

[sand atlas]

Phenom is Windows 7 era at least so as long as you have 64 bit Windows you're good

[mild roost]

storage really is only limited by os support if the system isn't very old

like newer than pre 64 bit era

[valid gyro]

ok thx

baclky i reblt it for my aunt with recyeld hd but im wanting to put a singel hd in it

backly all she wants it for is word prossing and internet

[sand atlas]

Just double check it's 64 bit windows

[valid gyro]

ok

[sand atlas]

Right click the start button and hit "system" to find out

It'll be under "system type"

[valid gyro]

ok thx

[tight patrol]

The front one is adhesive

[fierce pivot]

hmm, maybe check out this channel, they have a lot of stuff on the meshilicious

https://www.youtube.com/@OptimumTech

[tight patrol]

Ok has anyone successfully put two m2 s in that case to?

[mild roost]

if the board has enough slots for the ssds

it should fit

[tight patrol]

One is on the back of the board

[fierce pivot]

wont have a heatsink but i believe its pretty doable

[quaint trellis]

I need a top-tier case for a 13.3" 4070 Ti Suprim X OC

[mild roost]

what's the kind of aesthetics and form factor are you looking for?

itx, mid tower or full tower

[fierce pivot]

I'd go with the phanteks g360a or g500a performance

[tight patrol]

coil whine common on lianli 750?

just installed it

[sand atlas]

Is it that SFF one?

That's fairly common in SFF in general

[mild roost]

sff psus has coil whine, it's common tbh

[daring hawk]

Should i upgrade my case and add more tower fans my case seems to small for my build my case is the Phanteks ecipse g360a atx

[lunar root]

Check this out on @Newegg: MSI - MPG A1000G PCIE 5.0, 80 GOLD Full Modular Gaming PSU, 12VHPWR Cable, 4080 4090 ATX 3.0 Compatible, 1000W Power Supply https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-a1000g-pcie-5/p/N82E16817701016?Item=N82E16817701016&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-17-701-016-_-02122023

Under $200

[mild roost]

still too much money tbh

[lofty pewter]

Damn no 2080Ti/3070(Ti)/3080(Ti)/3090(Ti)/4070Ti in the name. Guess it isnt compatible like the 4080/4090 are. ||/s||

[fierce pivot]

Nah it's a good case honestly could fit any gpu and up to a 360mm aio

[lunar root]

Well this is where we are

Newer tech will be more expensive

[granite terrace]

thats the problem

the tech will be more advanced leading to higher prices

and in a short time the value depreciates and other tech overtakes the tech

all bcos of our economy

[sand atlas]

Inflation has a bit to do with that too. 10% increase in 2 years.

[granite terrace]

yeah..

[lunar root]

[bleak holly]

Has anyone ever made a PC case that looked like a snake?

[sand atlas]

As in the shape of a snake or snakeskin texture

[bleak holly]

shape.

[sand atlas]

There's this from a custom job done by MSI in 2015

[bleak holly]

I really like the concept of creature shaped pc cases.

[bleak holly]

Not quite what I expected.

[sand atlas]

You could probably do something with an open air case/test bench and a 3D printer

[bleak holly]

You mean like taking one of those really basic open air cases and 3D printing a frame around them?

[sand atlas]

Yes

You could do like a coiled up snake cover

[bleak holly]

Mhmmm, might try that or something similar in the future. For now, my focus is to get my pc finished and replace my drawing tablet that got stolen.

Are decent 3D printers still very expensive?

[sand atlas]

Moderately

[bleak holly]

$300?

[sand atlas]

That'll get you started on a basic system that doesn't totally suck

[bleak holly]

What would you say gets a person a decent starter 3D printer with the kind of print space needed for the task you suggested.

[sand atlas]

Considering ITX is 170mmx170mm and it'll need to accomodate the rounded design... Probably want at least a 250mm bed

[bleak holly]

I see.

[sand atlas]

You could get a decent one for about $500-600

[bleak holly]

Holy smokes, just for a 250mm bed?

[sand atlas]

Well that gets you into the large printer category where they have about 400mm beds

[bleak holly]

Oh.

[sand atlas]

It's 500-600 for the whole deal

[bleak holly]

Okay, that makes more sense.

I thought you meant $500-600 just for a bed size of about 250mm.

[sand atlas]

Oh lol

Nah that's the whole starter kit

So moderately expensive like I said

[bleak holly]

So $500-600 gets me a print bed of about 400mm on a decent printer along with anything else I'd need for the printer? (excluding resin of course.)

[sand atlas]

The starter kit will have everything you need to do your first prints

Then the more advanced stuff will need different materials

[bleak holly]

If that's the case, after I finish my pc and the such I may look into saving up for a few months to get a printer as that would be a fun machine to use.

[sand atlas]

Oh absolutely

You could even do a side hustle and rent out your printer time

[bleak holly]

In my old science classroom, my teacher had 4 3D printers that he'd let us use.

Okay I gotta look this up. Human Shaped PC Case.

R.I.P closest thing I could find was this.

Though in anycase if I get a 3D printer it would be fun making a pc case for my current system, would make for a nice lil pc deco. I7-10700f + 3070.

well I gotta sleep, thanks for the help and have a good evening.

[sand atlas]

G'night, you too

[bleak holly]

Cool pc case.

[dusk pasture]

bro

where is that

[sullen island]

Hi! My girlfriend computer SEEM to get power issue, but the newegg power calculator say i need 500-599W but she got a 650W! Does it really the power or it could be something else...
My kid was playing Lego StarWars and it's close very often, just after few minutes of play.
One time the machine reboot and did not find the SSD boot drive (the only drive)!

[blissful thistle]

What gpu and cpu, and what is the model of power supply

[sullen island]

ASUS tuf rtx 3060, i5-12400 and Corsair RM650x

[fierce pivot]

thats just fine

[blissful thistle]

More than fine, but I wouldn't buy that gpu

Likely very overpriced

[fierce pivot]

or power supply usually pretty overpriced too

[sullen island]

Too late guys! 🫠 already built

[hollow leaf]

Are you monitoring thermals on your cpu/gpu? Do you have any overclocks on your cpu/gpu/ram?

[sullen island]

No overclock

I check temperature quickly it said 39 C but the game was not running... then I should monitor temperature in game? I have only one monitor on that machine

[bleak holly]

Check the temps during gaming.

Idle temps aren't important.

[sullen island]

Could I record the temperature while gaming? Like start an app before the game?

[hollow leaf]

What you could do is download WhoCrashed and see if your drivers are crashing.

[hollow leaf]

Not that I'm aware of, but I have 5 monitors so I never need to record it.

There could be.

[sullen island]

Btw I got Noctua NH-U9S CPU cooler

[twilit knoll]

Is the Newegg psu calc good?

[sullen island]

Yep! 500 to 599W

[twilit knoll]

The estimate I got was 700-799 and I have an 850. I should be good as well?

[hollow leaf]

What cpu/gpu do you have?

[twilit knoll]

Not trying to steal your question or anything @sullen island just trying to piggyback

Currently have a 4070ti, haven’t gotten a new cpu yet

Either 13600k or 13700k

[blissful thistle]

No

[blissful thistle]

A good quality 750w would be a good idea

Rme is the cheapest in the US rn, the 850 is only $15 more though

[twilit knoll]

I have an 850 currently

[blissful thistle]

What model

[twilit knoll]

Rx Corsair I believe it is

[blissful thistle]

Nice

[twilit knoll]

RMx

[blissful thistle]

Good psu

Will do the job and then some

You'd be fine with a 4090 on that psu

[hollow leaf]

Do you do any editing or tasks that would require you to need more cores? If not I'd just go with the 13600k

[twilit knoll]

No, just gaming

[hollow leaf]

then def just go with 13600k.

[twilit knoll]

I’ve been told to go 13600k but idk why im leaning towards the 13700k

Guessing because technically it is faster

I think lol

[hollow leaf]

because it says i7 and has "MOAR CORES!!"... will be wasted if just gaming.

[blissful thistle]

It's 2% faster in gaming tasks

Probably less with a 4070 ti

[twilit knoll]

I mean 2% is 2%

[blissful thistle]

2% is also not noticeable

Whatsoever

[hollow leaf]

even the 12600k is way more than enough for gaming. I believe the same can be said for a 12400.

[blissful thistle]

12400f with a 4070 ti is fine

[hollow leaf]

I game at 1440p on a 12600k with 5 monitors and a crap load of tasks while running games and not once have I experienced any bottleneck.

[blissful thistle]

I'd aim for 12600k/13400f personally, but 12400f would do the job

[hollow leaf]

isn't the value of the 13400 a bit crappy compared to value of 12400 or 12600k?

iirc the 13400 is just a worse 12600k, but a fat increase in price over the 12400.

[blissful thistle]

Eh, rn 12600k is same price as 13400f so it is a better buy

But with 13400f normally being cheaper, as well as being cooler, id go for it

[past harbor]

I've seen the 13600k actually faster than 13700k in some games. It's about boost behavior & most games don't use many cores.

[twilit knoll]

So I should get the i5 13600k? Over the 13700k

[upbeat dew]

yes

[chrome yacht]

anyone have any experience building in one of those Borg Cube atx cases? if so, how is it and how is quality? is it worth the price/

[sand atlas]

The company that makes it is known for making decent enough stuff. I wouldn't do a super high end build in it for airflow reasons but it would be a nice novelty case.

[ornate nimbus]

So question, would an undervolt 3070 rtx work well with an 600 gold psu?

[upbeat dew]

depends on your cpu as well

[ornate nimbus]

Its an i5-11400 @upbeat dew

I did check it on newegg and they said it needed an 500-599 if I'm only using 2 SSD cards but more than that, I need 600-699w

[upbeat dew]

yeah, its ok for that pair

not counting quality tho

[ornate nimbus]

Cool

Tho I shouldn't expect shutdowns on heavy games?

[upbeat dew]

3070 draw about 250w, and the cpu will be on low utilization most of the time, maybe 50w, plus 100w from mobo things... you will be hitting like 500 only

600 is fine

[ornate nimbus]

Okay then sounds nice

[upbeat dew]

you will be on the edge tho

a more powerful gpu will shut down the system, like a 3080 as an example

[ornate nimbus]

Yeah lol

3080 too expensive for me anyways

[upbeat dew]

a 3080 will be fine on 750

[blissful thistle]

What model psu

3070 fine on a 500 with an 11400 in most scenarios

[ornate nimbus]

600W 80 Plus Gold

Dunno what brand tho

[sand atlas]

I've tripped my RM850x twice so that's a big "it depends"

[fierce pivot]

If you take the back panel off you should be able to see the sticker on the psu and you can send a pic here we would be able to tell if it could handle a 3070

[hybrid basin]

[ornate nimbus]

Okay I do it when I open my PC then

[blissful thistle]

Does this case support normal sized psus? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CzfmP6/silverstone-sg13-v2-mini-itx-tower-case-sst-sg13p-usa

According to pcp it does but I'm not sure I trust it

[sand atlas]

According to the Amazon page, "The SG13 features an ATX-compatible power supply mount and can fit ATX power supplies up to 150mm long"

[blissful thistle]

Ty

[vagrant lantern]

anyone got a good matx case under 90$ on amazon

[fierce pivot]

Honestly there's not many actual good matx cases because you can just use an atx case and get better airflow etc and matx is just less tall and then there's itx if you actually wanna go small

[bleak holly]

Are there any issues with this PSU?
https://www.amazon.com.mx/SilverStone-Technology-alimentación-Totalmente-SST-HA1300R-PM/dp/B0BVGQ3NZK/ref=mp_s_a_1_35?crid=20VIQCH81Q6YI&keywords=atx+3.0+psu&qid=1677084596&sprefix=atx+3.0+psu%2Caps%2C398&sr=8-35&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.2f990652-065f-4ce4-905d-4c9d6a080141

Contemplating between this and the Corsair HX1500I. About the same price. Leaning towards the Silverstone one because I'd prefer not having a giant adaptor cable mess.

NVM just looked at Corsair's adaptors which are surprisingly not as messy as the other ones I've seen.

[fierce pivot]

i mean the price

https://www.amazon.com.mx/Corsair-RM1000x-alimentación-Totalmente-Modular/dp/B08R5PH1VY

just get that and if you reallly want the 3.0 native just get the 20$ cable from corsair

[bleak holly]

What do you mean native?

Isn't it still a adaptor?

[mild roost]

it isn't

hence native

[fierce pivot]

https://www.corsair.com/eu/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/12-pin-GPU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920274

[bleak holly]

Oh, so it's 1 plug that splits into 2 or more.

[fierce pivot]

doesnt have technical atx 3.0 capabilities with the talking between gpu and psu but its same connector

just how a regular pcie cable would

[bleak holly]

Would it work with the HX1500i?

I'd assume so, but just double checking.

[fierce pivot]

Yes but what in the hell would you need a 1500w psu for

I think so anyway can't remember the layout

If it's type 3 or 4 it can

[timid basin]

HX1500i is 2022, so type 4

[fickle bison]

I'm currently looking for a PSU between 500 and 800 watts which is as quiet as possible for an "always on" machine. Any recommendations for this at all?

[fierce pivot]

I've honestly never heard a psu make a noise over the low hum of the fans anyway, what parts are gonna be in it?

[fickle bison]

Well that's the bit I want to be quieter 😅 the fan to not be quite so loud.
It's a machine I've had for a while and the fans in it now don't make a noise. The only think making a noise is the PSU fan pretty much. And it's in my bedroom so would like it to be quieter for when I'm sleeping

[fierce pivot]

What specs are in the pc?

Is it actually running any load over night because no fans will make no noise at all even if they're not loud they have to make some sound

If it was running any load it would deff not be silent

[fickle bison]

Well thinking about it, I know you can get those PSUs where the fan only turns on under certain load. This one doesn't have that capability but that could be an option.

I'll have to get back to you on what the specs are. Don't have them handy right now

[blissful thistle]

I'm assuming it's hosting a server or something along those lines if it stays on over night

[fierce pivot]

Yeah that's basically your only option, no worries whenever you can just trying to recommend a good one depending on pricing and requirements

[blissful thistle]

If mining weren't dead I'd say maybe that

[fierce pivot]

Not me finding it okay going to sleep at 60% gpu fan speed

[blissful thistle]

I used to sleep with gpu at 80%

[fierce pivot]

I did 70% for a bit too but 60% was bettter and doable

[fickle bison]

Na definitely not mining haha. Specs certainly aren't good enough for that.

It'll be definitely be a server that's running on it, yes. Multiple different types of things really

[sand atlas]

There's lots of power supplies that have a "hybrid fan" function where the fan only spins up if the power supply is hot. That would be dead silent at idle or low load.

[fickle bison]

Asrock AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac
Ryzen 3 1200
16GB DDR4 2400 (8GB x 2)
MSI Geforce GTX 1050

It's not been built for for part efficiency originally. Was just something that got thrown together ignorantly

[fickle bison]

Yeah I'm wondering if something like that could be what i want 🤔

[fierce pivot]

id probably get this its a pretty silent one, if its not in stock the 750w is the same price
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/8ZJgXL/fractal-design-ion-gold-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-fd-p-ia2g-850
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/mL92FT/fractal-design-ion-gold-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-fd-p-ia2g-750

[sand atlas]

Not a hybrid fan but it does say it's a very low speed one at least

[fierce pivot]

its got the blue legend on cultists and i trust luke which means quiet

[sand atlas]

That means quiet under moderate load too iirc. Good. Especially since that'll be nowhere near capacity usage.

[fierce pivot]

yep

[lofty pewter]

I'd look at min load for active fan. So many hybrid models suck due to poor fan hysteresis causing the fan to constantly toggle between off and on during certain workloads (some of which could be quite common, like idling or light/mid/heavy games).

The few models I've had were technically good, but real world usecase made them terrible in the sound department.

[fickle bison]

This machine won't be running any actual games at all.
It's gonna be running a server OS with different types of stuff and maybe be downloading things overnight etc

Nothing all that intense really

[fickle bison]

I'll take a look at the options, thanks

[hollow leaf]

Mine has this, but I've been skeptical of using it. Not that I hear it already anyways, but I'm afraid whatever sensor that is in it will fail and it'll just not kick on causing my PSU to overheat.

[sand atlas]

If you can't hear it as it is there's not really a reason to turn it on

Except fan life but that's a minor thing

[exotic perch]

Why do SFX PSUs cost so much.

[blissful thistle]

Sff tax

[fierce pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/basic-economic-problem-economy-industrial-gif-23056335

[timid basin]

which is something most people won't hit anyways

and to be fair

ion gold is quite literally a slightly downgraded ion plat

both are Highpower #818 (also used on Hela 850R)

[candid moth]

Best 1000W psu for reasonable price?

My 850 doesn't seem to be good enough for my system 😢

[fierce pivot]

Country? and what psu and specs do you have

[candid moth]

USA, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DxpxMb

I know it should theoretically be enough

But I am having weird display issues that looking around PSU seems like a culprit

I'd rather spend 200 on a nice psu than 800 on a new gpu if it could fix it!!

[fierce pivot]

That's on a great 850w should be more than plenty, have you tried using DDU?

[candid moth]

10s of times 🥹

I’ve done everything I can think of

[fierce pivot]

Can you describe or show the graphical issue?

[candid moth]

But I’ve seen some random stuff about gigabyte software causing issues so I’m gonna do a clean windows install

[candid moth]

The fans go to max speed, screen goes black

Can’t recreate it in any benchmark or game it’s seemingly random

And outside of that my GPU is performing way above expectations(if OCd)

But the issue persists on base settings

[fierce pivot]

Just for the sake of it, download hwinfo64, open up the sensors, look for gpu hotspot and down occt and put on the power mode and watch to see if you're getting above like 95c hotspot

Also try download whocrashed to see why you've been crashing

[candid moth]

The weird thing is I don’t know if it gets logged as a crash anywhere, because I can still hear audio and input audio like on discord calls

But if I’m hosting a game that game stops, and if I make an input it doesn’t go through

[candid moth]

Done it before and I think it was fine but I’ll check again just for the sake of it

[fierce pivot]

okay no harm in checking, otherwise if whocrashed doesnt pick it up you can have a search in event viewer for something timestamped around when you last "crashed" and send a screenshot of the page

[candid moth]

And which settings should I select in OCCT? This things a mystery to me I just picked something someone recommended last time

[fierce pivot]

also keep an eye on these at the bottom too

[candid moth]

Alright sweet, give me a little and I’ll run it

[candid moth]

@fierce pivot well I left to go use the bathroom and the issue occurred, probably 10 minutes in

Checking out the dumps now

[fierce pivot]

Alright lets see then

[candid moth]

WHOLEEEE lotta errors wow

Using whocrashed rq!

Whocrashed doesn't pickup on this error, only ones from when I had bad ram in january

I have a hwinfo file but no clue how to read it....temps were around 86C when I left but it was a good two minutes and it had not stopped heating up

And it's all linked to AORUS LCD SERVICE

And oculus in some way

This thing is impossible to read

Gonna clean install windows and not download gigabyte software to be safe i guess!

[fierce pivot]

That would be my best guess

[sand atlas]

None of that is particularly concerning and I'm not at all surprised they're related to RGB

The RGB controllers might not respond to every single status request, triggering an error

[candid moth]

That's exactly what it said

My GPU has a little LCD on it

It does NOT like the work well I guess

Kept saying there was a timeout in response with AorusLCD or something like that

followed by a crash

Really goofy that it's even a thing on this GPU

running OCCT now and it all seems fine

although junction and hotspot are reaching 90C, not sure if that sok

[upbeat dew]

yeah, if your psu was the culprit your whole pc shut down, not just the display

[candid moth]

Man I saw so many people saying they RMA'd this card for this specific reason and spent months trying to get it back

[upbeat dew]

90c hotspot dang

i mean, is not dangerous, but dang, its high

i feel kinda worried when mine reach 76c

[candid moth]

memory junction is 84C max

Hot spot is 90.8 max

How would one go about lowering these?

Just for ease of mind

Here wait I'll go the the GPU channel

[upbeat dew]

reseat and repaste

probably not a good contact between the thermal pads and the ics

[candid moth]

Ah true and it is used

Any good tutorials on how to do that?

[upbeat dew]

should be some on youtube

[craggy mirage]

Ravell, that first water cooler I owned, the one that broke like 8 years ago, was a Corsair that came with thermal paste. Forgot the Forums, I think it was Tom's Hardware. I had 7 people tell me not to use their thermal paste that's provided, and use Coolmaster instead. Not sure what's top of the line today, but years ago, was glad I reseated with better thermal paste. Only 3 days later, when I went to clean my first I7 I got, right before It's initial release, the paste was hard like plaster, and basically used a PC minivac to get it all off the CPU. Was very crumbly.

Oh, it was pretty conductive too. Used my air compressor after.

[upbeat dew]

well... that was 8 years ago

technology even thermal paste tech advanced a lot to this point

[fierce pivot]

Increasing fan speeds is the easiest way, you could repad your memory but honestly it's a pain and those temps are okay, I'd personally make your fan curve go to 100% at 70c

Although those temps are fine

[hollow leaf]

Seems about right for the Aorus Master. I have the 12gb version and my hotspot was hitting 97c. Once I swapped to a case with bottom airflow going directly up to my GPU, that hotspot max dropped to 86c.

[candid moth]

Might add some fans in the bottom then, or repaste at some point

Have an aggressive overclock though so I’m honestly fine with temps

[hollow leaf]

If the case isn't set up to bring bottom airflow directly from outside the case then it likely won't have any substantial effect. Repaste would be best best. I haven't done mine, but watching teardown vids of the card, it looks easy.. just gotta go slow slow and pay attention.

[fierce pivot]

Imr with my gigabyte gaming oc, it wasn't tightened super well

I'd just unscrew the 4 screws on the backplate and rescrew in an x pattern and see if that works

[sick viper]

I am still looking for compact cases with good cooling, even if it is something like an open bench. Even something I could DIY as I know a place where I can borrow tools. Even better if I can attach a monitor to it. My original idea was to make a pelican case PC, but honestly I am not sure I want to irreversibly mangle a pelican case and make it no longer waterproof.

I mean this does look kinda neat

As for cooling I feel There is a better way to get air to circulate in there that doesn’t require me to be an engineer to understand.

[sand atlas]

You can make holes in a Pelican case without compromising waterproof-ness. You just need to use the right cables or coupler. https://www.l-com.com/audio-video-waterproof-hdmi-cables

[upbeat dew]

and some rubber washers for the exterior

[sand atlas]

That's what those are but better

[upbeat dew]

ohhhh true

i was thinking more on the screws for the mobo standoffs

but those waterproof hdmi mounts are kinda cool as well

[sand atlas]

3M tape a baseboard to the case

[upbeat dew]

that sounds even better than my caveman idea for standofs e_e

[sick viper]

i need somthing wide and squareish but no such thing exists

also I could probably work out something to add some vibration resistance

[daring hawk]

How do I check to see if my PSU isn’t working/isnt performing well

[sand atlas]

OCCT power test for 30 minutes will load it up to the max, watch voltage while it does that

PSU issues are very hard to pin down tbh, you can only test for so many problems

[timid basin]

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

Since a few people mentioned ATX 3.0 being included into the list, might as well show that Juular did some solid work 😄

[sand atlas]

Updates are always appreciated 👍

[timid basin]

Will keep in mind

Should have one soon-ish for more ATX 3.0 units anyways

[vagrant lantern]

is second hand psu reliable? for budget builds?

[vocal tree]

I believe people do it all the time, but I think I would generally try to get them new instead

[sand atlas]

Depends on how old the PSU is. Normally it's fine but you'll want the age to be less than the standard warranty for that model in general.

So if it's a 5 year warranty unit, probably 3 years or less used I'd be comfortable using.

[olive geode]

I've installed a new PSU but the computer won't turn on. And I don't know why

[blissful thistle]

Did you change the cables

And did you switch the psu on

If you didn't switch the cables do, if you're lucky just change the cables and you're fine

[olive geode]

Both PSU 's have their own sets of cables. I'm double checking the connections, it feels like I can push the 24 pin in any further but is that little latch supposed to close around the notch on the motherboard?

[blissful thistle]

Pic?

[olive geode]

I'm also realizing I've unplugged something that wasn't even a part of the old PSU, and now I gotta go through old photos of my computer and see if I can put those tiny connectors back in the right order

[tame cape]

It should but sometimes cheaper PSUs cables are difficult to push in till you hear the click, so yes it should go all the way in but don't push the connector too much or it could also break

Probably bad psu or motherboard quality and that's why it doesn't lock in place

[olive geode]

This is apparently what the power and reset switch was supposed to connect to. I just don't know where exactly to connect the connectors. They have "reset sw", "power sw", "power led-", "power led+", and "hold led -+"

[past harbor]

Helps to just zoom. The small arrow on 1 side of a connector generally means positive I think, but also pwr/reset don't care about polarity (leds do).

[lunar root]

ayo nzxt is here

$259.99

[fierce pivot]

260$ for a 1200w skull emoji

[mild roost]

[violet rock]

is it still seabubonic

[sand atlas]

Probably. It's likely all they did was add the 12VHPWR connector to their (already A tier) C series units.

[urban tulip]

• jack up the price

[gloomy aspen]

I got the Montech x3 mesh, and it has a reset switch but no fan controller, so does anyone know what it does?

[sand atlas]

Reset usually wires to the motherboard to do a hard reset without killing power

Other times you can wire the reset to a RGB controller to adjust colors

[gloomy aspen]

like an led reset switch for the fan colors

[sand atlas]

It would cycle through RGB colors/modes in the case that it's wired to a controller yes

[gloomy aspen]

yes but the case doesnt have a controller it has all the fans daisy chained in molex

[sand atlas]

Then the first case applies, where the reset is used to reset the system

[gloomy aspen]

oh okay thank you

[glass tundra]

I need help with the psu cables on the thermal take tough power gf1 650 w

Billion cables

But not even the manual help me figure it out

[tired summit]

What do you need help with? This is from the manual

If can give us the motherboard, graphics card, and storage device (m.2, ssd, hdd), we can try to let you know exactly what cables you'll need

Just for reference, though:

[glass tundra]

Is the psu suppose to have an empty one

:///

[sand atlas]

yes

[glass tundra]

Only the long side of the pci-e goes in

But there’s 2 close connectors and on the power supply there’s 2 connectors

Is only the 1 by itself supposed to be in

??

[sand atlas]

The two close ones go to the GPU and the one furthest away goes to the PSU

There's multiple spots on the PSU to plug into, usually you just pick one that fits and it works.

[glass tundra]

Thx

[languid olive]

I need a case preferably no rgb

[carmine oyster]

That's not really enough info lol

Budget?

Size?

Any other preferences

[languid olive]

Somewhere 100 or lower, the size could be mid range or full doesn’t really matter and i like mostly black

[carmine oyster]

https://a.co/d/9uFpLKF

https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-meshify-c-tg-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352084?Item=N82E16811352084&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-11-352-084-_-03082023

[languid olive]

Need a power supply, the one thats been shipped is coming too late

Nvm i found one

[bleak holly]

Is the TT Tough power GF3 1650w also A tier?

[sand atlas]

Yes

[burnt crane]

I'm possibly upgrading my PC soon. I have an 850w Platinum PSU by Seasonic. I'm thinking of getting a 7900 XT GPU, upgrading to 64 GB of RAM and a Ryzen 9 5950X, will that PSU be enough?

Said GPU I'm looking at I don't think is an OC model

[sand atlas]

64GB is totally unnecessary if you're just gaming, but yes that PSU will be fine

Also if you're gaming the 5800X3D destroys the 5950X, and competes with the 13900k in a lot of titles

If you're doing actual work then disregard that

[burnt crane]

Actual work. I do a lot of animation and video editing

So thank you!!! Good to knkw @sand atlas

[fierce pivot]

If you don't have an am4 board 13600k(f) or 13700(k)(f) would be a better choice imo

[coarse sable]

Which is better?

MSI MPG A750GF 750W 80 Plus Gold Certified Power Supply

OR

EVGA Supernova 750 GT, 80 Plus Gold 750W

OR

Should I get Whichever is cheaper?

[blissful thistle]

what gpu

[coarse sable]

7600

[blissful thistle]

?

[coarse sable]

Rx7600

[blissful thistle]

gpu not cpu

that doesn't exist

[coarse sable]

R6700**