#cases-psu-and-cooling

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lunar root
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I don't think so

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I don't recall but I also have bad memories sometimes

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Well if I only need 2 pcie then will a 850W power 4090 šŸ¤”

serene siren
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2 pcie for the corsair adapter

lunar root
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Anyone know power spike usage

serene siren
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Which is corsair psus only

lunar root
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Oh

serene siren
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Nvidia is 4, cablemod 3 or 4

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Mod diy 3

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Zotac...3??

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Depends on the iteration

lunar root
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Well youbsaid to get corsair

serene siren
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When?

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I just said it was better

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Never said "You should get this one"

lunar root
serene siren
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LOL

lunar root
serene siren
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"with a corsair psu"

lunar root
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Best means good which means buy in my mind

serene siren
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Well not in my mind

lunar root
serene siren
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I'm over here using a silverstone and cablemod adapter

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We are not the same

lunar root
lunar root
serene siren
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You know my answer to that

lunar root
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Also is multirail for multiple gpus

serene siren
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Not all corsairs are A tier

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Iirc single rail is better for big power

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But depends on the rail limits ig

lunar root
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šŸ¤”

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serene siren
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I agree with the Palit one

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That card is actually rubbish

lunar root
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ill get this

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hollow leaf
lunar root
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no that looks weird

hollow leaf
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Lol.

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It's the one I have. Works goood

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I've not heard it once.

lunar root
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msi is also a tier

hollow leaf
lunar root
lunar root
# lunar root ill get this

but im gunna get 7900XTX rn since 1. its gunna be in stock and i wanna get something that can game if i need extra compute power then ill upgrade] to 4090 and give my 7900XTX to a friend

serene siren
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Can I have the XTX first

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I'll overclock it to hell then send it on

lunar root
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or if i keep getting repetive driver issue but ill let drivers stabilist outr

lunar root
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šŸ¤”

serene siren
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I do, but I want to try XTX

lunar root
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LOL

serene siren
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I'm insanely curious about the new architecture

lunar root
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just buy one smh

serene siren
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No

lunar root
serene siren
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Would rather borrow

hollow leaf
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Felix said he was gonna send me his suprim

lunar root
serene siren
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What

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No if I broke it I'd buy a new one

lunar root
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lol

serene siren
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Who tf breaks someone elses stuff and doesn't pay for it lol

lunar root
serene siren
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You're a humanity

lunar root
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@serene siren wait does putting on the thermals contact frame void warranty on my mobo

serene siren
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Supposed to void warranty for cpu too but there's no way they'd know

fierce pivot
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Because you're modding the motherboard in a way it's not designed to be covered by warranty

lunar root
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Okay I'll rma my mobo then change the bracket out

serene siren
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Basically unless they acknowledge how bad their design is, it's not a problem

fierce pivot
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It's just like mining with gpus tho, unless you tell them there's no way they could know if you just put the old bracket back on

serene siren
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Damn kenzie will you live

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You're gonna be out of a pc for ages

lunar root
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Nah I'm gunna die

serene siren
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Rest in power supplies

lunar root
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@serene siren I was waiting for my ram rma to come in so I can send both parts in to maybe get them back same time ish then I'll send parts out monday

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@serene siren so do you wanna know weird things

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I put 3600CL 16C G2/ XMP on my i3 and like I said before I had to restart for the XMP to be enabled will when I put my i5 in it trained and booted into windows

serene siren
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We aren't doing the overclocking thing again I hope

lunar root
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No it's just XMP

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If I want more FPS I'll just buy high end gpu

serene siren
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That's better

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Now you're thinking smarter

lunar root
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It just takes time

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I have to think about it

serene siren
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XTX reviews are up in a couple days

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You'll get a day to think before preordering

lunar root
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what power supply can I get to power this kekw

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upbeat dew
lunar root
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@serene siren one more thing to add when I shut my pc off bc it won't run xmp I turn it back on it restarts itself then boots into XMP so can we say XMP is stable I'm not getting any errors or anything

serene siren
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Nope

lunar root
serene siren
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Can mean xmp could be screwed, can mean the board is just bad at training

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Asus boards have a habit of this, randomly cmos'ing themselves

upbeat dew
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haha the xmp turns off and on when he wants to and you think that the xmp is stable? really?

lunar root
serene siren
upbeat dew
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gigglebyte kekw

serene siren
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Gigabyte is fine

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Just don't use ddr5 with gigglebit

lunar root
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Also I installed new cpu and it booted into windows fine with the XMP

upbeat dew
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still need more testing

lunar root
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No we leave as be

serene siren
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Booting means very little for stability

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Many hours of stress testing confirms stability

lunar root
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Also I've been gaming just fine

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Nothing in event views nothing in control panel

upbeat dew
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like the guy who stop taking his pills becuase he is starting to feel kinda fine

lunar root
upbeat dew
serene siren
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Lol.

lunar root
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And look at me

upbeat dew
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figured as much

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well, is time for my coffee šŸ˜„

serene siren
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Kekw

lunar root
upbeat dew
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i would love to see those pings again

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hahaha

lunar root
slate creek
bleak holly
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for a 4090 with 13900K (pl3) + 10 fans should I use a 1,200 watt psu instead of a 1,000 watt?

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I am planning on buying all the parts for my build in about a week or two so I wanted to double check.

mild roost
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Meh, not really

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4090 has very controlled transients

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It's not spiky, only peaks at 500w at stock

bleak holly
mild roost
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That with like 300-400w cpu power still leaves more than 100w

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10 fans should never get to 100w or something

bleak holly
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If I catch it at release, I might be able to get it at a price that's less then what scalpers are charging for normal 4090? thinkEGG

mild roost
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4090ti? Wait a year later maybe lol

bleak holly
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xD.

mild roost
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It ain't coming out anytime soon

bleak holly
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Fair.

mild roost
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If it even exists

bleak holly
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So, 1000w should be fine?

mild roost
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yep

bleak holly
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Good to know.

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Currently double checking stuff on my bucket list.

serene siren
bleak holly
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Don't worry, I ain't buying that.

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Not worth the extra $$$ for like 10% performance increase.

serene siren
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It's not even 10% tho

bleak holly
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I was just thinking if I had to pay scalper level pricing I might be able to get a 4090 ti for the same price.

serene siren
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Most 13900K's will do the KS spec

bleak holly
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I keep questioning if a 360mm aio can really handle a 13900k?

serene siren
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Same deal as 12th

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Depends on the mount, pump, block IHS

bleak holly
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I keep forgetting, what does IHS stand for?

serene siren
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Integrated Heat Spreader

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Sorry integrated

bleak holly
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Ahh okay.

serene siren
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The chip can pull 450W+ but in normal circumstances you shouldn't see that

bleak holly
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What was the difference between the H170I Elite and the LF2 360 performance wise?

serene siren
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Undervolt it to 1.3V max then overclock from there, temps will be very fine

serene siren
bleak holly
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Got it, I will do some looking up but interesting. Undervolting to OC?

serene siren
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Ya, to avoid degradation you should make sure the voltages stay under 1.32V

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12th gen can degrade on a bit more than that supposedly (I'm not game to test it)

bleak holly
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By degrade you mean like, killing the silicon?

serene siren
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Ye

bleak holly
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Got it.

serene siren
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Not dead but slower

bleak holly
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Oh, so like what happened to a old laptop of mine.

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I just maxed everything out and 2 years later it became extremely slow.

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Still runs, but it's like 20% slower nowadays.

serene siren
bleak holly
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Is there anyway to recycle (reuse) laptop parts?

serene siren
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You can repurpose older ones as chromebooks

bleak holly
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It has like a GTX 700 series gpu and a I5-6th gen chip I think.

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It's a HP-Pavillion that I bought used from a friend a while back.

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It's just been sitting around collecting dust.

bleak holly
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https://www.amazon.com.mx/Corsair-RM1000x-alimentaciĆ³n-totalmente-renovada/dp/B09F1XRN4J/ref=sr_1_7?__mk_es_MX=ƅMĆ…Å½Ć•Ć‘&crid=18I2Q6SC25RSM&keywords=1000w%2Bpsu&qid=1670747337&s=electronics&sprefix=1000w%2Bpsu%2Celectronics%2C169&sr=1-7&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.66c34496-0d28-4d73-a0a1-97a8d87ec0b2&th=1
anyone know what Amazon defines as "Renewed"? Because I found this for about $100 cheaper than the other one, same PSU except it doesn't say renewed.

Corsair Serie RMX (2021), RM1000x, 1000 W, oro, fuente de alimentac...

Este producto usado o reacondicionado ha sido inspeccionado y probado profesionalmente para funcionar y parecer nuevo. CĆ³mo un producto se convierte en parte de Amazon Renewed, tu destino para productos usados y reacondicionados: un cliente compra un producto nuevo y lo devuelve o lo intercambia ...

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also, just me or is this confusing?

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timid basin
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renewed means it's a refurb from either Corsair themselves or a third party retailer

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Amazon themselves sell returns themselves under the "warehouse" side of things

bleak holly
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Is there any concerns I should have in ordering a renewed/refurbished PSU?

urban tulip
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There's not an easy way for them to "renew/refresh" it other than making sure it has all the cables and crap

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It's not like some refurb cellphones where they replace to battery so it's better than when it came in

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So it's basically just used with all the parts usually

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Warranty also gets taken a huge chunk off, p sure corsairs renewed one thru their outlet is like a year

bleak holly
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Reading this, I think I will buy this instead of a brand new one and save myself around $90.

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timid basin
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but Corsair's own renewed stuff is fine, because they at least hook it up to a Sunmoon before shipping it out again

dusky wyvern
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recommended psu for the 4090? Does the cable matter?

upbeat dew
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850w+

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the 4090 brings an adapter, but you can get one from cablemod as well

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and if you have an rmx or rm psu from corsair you can buy one from them as well

past harbor
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People need to get the 12vhpwr cables plugged in completely also. kek Concerned_Pepe

languid grail
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Enermax Revolution D.F. 650W psu good for a 750$ gaming pc(what other info about pc do u need?)

serene siren
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Price of psu, system specs

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It's a good psu but is it worth it at the price is the burning question

languid grail
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Itā€™s 83$ US

blissful thistle
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felix whyd you set the question on fire

blissful thistle
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bitfenix formula gold 650 is just as good for $70

serene siren
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And the specs it's for?

languid grail
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I5 12400f and 1660 super

serene siren
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Have you bought the 1660 super yet? How much was it?

languid grail
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I havenā€™t yet, itā€™s for 180$

blissful thistle
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used?

serene siren
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Even used that a bit bleh

blissful thistle
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or buy a used 1080

languid grail
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Not used

blissful thistle
serene siren
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6600 slaps a 1660 super

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By a huge margin

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If you need more money in your budget for it we can take a look at your list and help hmmThumbU

blissful thistle
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ye 12400f is likely a bit overpriced

finite bobcat
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anyone have ideas on whether i would have to upgrade my psu for a 4080? i currently have a 650W one, not sure exact spec but it was a pretty high end one at the time if that matters

sand atlas
finite bobcat
sand atlas
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Yeah that's a really high power chip so I'd use no less than an A tier 750W

finite bobcat
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gotcha ty. also any idea whether thats a really horrid pairing? from what i saw it seemed ok to have a slightly lower gpu if im running mostly 4k stuff

sand atlas
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It'll be perfectly fine at 4k yeah

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1440p some games might get cpu limited but that'll be rare enough

finite bobcat
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i already have a 650 i was just wondering if i need to get a new higher-wattage one or not ty tho

sand atlas
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That RM850x is actually what I have, and the G6 is the same class. So yes probably minute details like custom cable compatibility and first party adapters.

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I personally picked the RM850x because Corsair has a special cable to connect directly to the 30 series FE cards without an adapter.

finite bobcat
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ok interesting. id imagine theres probably nothing so convenient in regard to the 4080 but whatever. tysm for the help

sand atlas
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Actually there is a similar cable for connecting to the 4080/4090. Corsair has the best one I know of.

finite bobcat
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oh perfect ill def get it then. nice pfp btw

sand atlas
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Thanks, it started as an inside joke and it just stuck lol

timid basin
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So it would work with the Corsair cable too

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... assuming you can find one in stock

fierce pivot
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Wait what i didn't know this :(

timid basin
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and it makes sense why, honestly

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the vast majority of CWT's production is for Corsair, so if another vendor doesn't specify their pinout, they'll just use the modular boards they use for Corsair

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that's why some Thermaltake, MSI, Adata and Bitfenix PSUs use type 4

fierce pivot
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Oh that would have been nice to know :/

timid basin
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then now you do

fierce pivot
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Yeah i already paid like 20ā‚¬ for an extra 8 pin cable from them tho could have probably gotten a cheaper corsair one

sand atlas
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I'd double check the resistance on both original and type 4 cables before plugging it in. Iirc Corsair uses inline resistors.

timid basin
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No, they use inline capacitors on some PSUs

sand atlas
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Ah right that was it

timid basin
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But checking resistance and continuity is never a bad thing

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But yeah, caps don't affect anything beyond additional filtering

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So you can put a cable with them on one that's designed without it and vice versa

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As a random example, you can put the cables of an RM on an RMx and vice versa

sand atlas
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Oh does the RM not have the caps?

timid basin
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It doesn't

urban tulip
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Which is why the rm cables may bend a bit nicer in the areas the rmx would have inline caps

serene siren
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I learnedening a thing!

lofty pewter
sand atlas
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Cablemod doesn't even have enermax PSUs listed

lofty pewter
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Basically say that cable X was compatible with Corsair Type4 PSU and DF (plus a long list of other PSUs).
Also yeah, they don't seem to list it now.

timid basin
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There's Jon Gerow's site

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But that one only lists Bitfenix, Thermaltake, Adata XPG and MSI

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Because those are the ones he personally verified to be type 4

serene siren
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Thermaltake does type 4??

timid basin
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One series has mostly type 4

serene siren
timid basin
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Except for the sata/peripheral

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Iirc something irgb plus?

serene siren
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Ah

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Le sadge

scenic lance
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Should I get the Antec Dark League DF600 or the DF700? Which one & why? Do u have either one & how does the design, fans & size suit you?

mild roost
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I would rather get something like MX330-G air or G360A

scenic lance
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Thx ig.

storm ore
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bought a seasonic gm-550 semi-modular psu to pair with an asus prime b550m-a wifi II motherboard on a ryzen 5700x system with a gtx 1650. hooked it all up. powered it on, no post. waited about 60 seconds and got a loud pop. Can someone look up this power supply and motherboard and tell me if I screwed myself hooking up wrong power supply to motherboard?

fierce pivot
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Nope only way you could screw yourself if you plugged in a modular cable backwards if you didn't then just got unlucky and it's a faulty unit, psus are all standard connectors

storm ore
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So if psu is faulty and that pop was coming from PSU. How likely do you think it is this damaged all or some components of the build?

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I do want to add. Mb cpu connector is single 8 pin. Psu cpu connector was two 4-pins. That ok too?

sand atlas
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Yes the EPS cable for the CPU is 4+4 (8pin)

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Some boards have 12 or 16 total optional so they split it

storm ore
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How likely do you think it is that I lost one or more components among cpu, mb, gpu, and ram with this power supply popping?

serene siren
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  • shakes magic 8 ball *
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we don't know

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until you replace the psu you won't know really

serene siren
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mb takes 4+4

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psu 8

storm ore
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@serene siren thereā€™s a single 8 pin connector on mb for cpu. The psu has two 4 pin connectors with wires holding/grouping them together.

serene siren
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eh?

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Pic

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oh

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is it just one cable is what you mean?

storm ore
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Two cables, 1 for each connector. But they are integrated in some way. Canā€™t send pic. At work. Each connector is 4 pin. Connector on board is 8 pin. Plugged both 4 pin connectors in side by side on the 8 pin mb connector.

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I listed mb and psu part numbers In original chat post. In case anyone wanted to look them up. Figured that would be the first thing they would do before they gave any answer.

serene siren
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oh

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AH

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It's not fully modular

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sorry I wasn't reading it properly my mistake

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ok yeah then there isn't really a chance it was hooked up wrong then

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so yeah can't really say what's wrong or broken until it is replaced

storm ore
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Picking up a new psu tonight or tomorrow. If no post, will have to take everything in to someone who can start swapping out parts to narrow down what all was destroyed. šŸ¤ž this sucks. Who wouldā€™ve thought a brand new seasonic would take a dump on me right out of box. Seems very unlikely. Canā€™t help but think i made a mistake somewhere. Have triple checked everything else ā€œconnectedā€ in some way. Itā€™s all pretty straightforward anyways.

serene siren
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well, there's always a bad egg in every sample

storm ore
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Pop was so freaking loud too. Lol

sand atlas
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Seasonic gm is supposed to be half decent too so just bad luck I'd guess

timid basin
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an AC side failure wouldn't be able to cause any harm to the system as it's isolated from the DC side

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but I wouldn't be able to tell you without opening it up, something I don't suggest you do

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I suggest looking for visible damage on the components, if you have a multimeter laying around measure resistance and continuity

timid basin
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Seasonic's failure rate isn't low, Helly has shown some problematic design choices lately and... I'm not even sure who manufactures core at this point

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it's reported as Seasonic themselves, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's outsourced

sand atlas
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Sad. More cost cutting leading to bad products and misleading models...

timid basin
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though both RSY and Helly are cheaper to produce at, obviously

carmine oyster
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G360a cable slots are mid

storm pecan
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any nice compact cases drop recently? havent really been up to date with parts

fierce pivot
storm pecan
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planning on swapping cases soon and im not too picky

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aslong as its compact ish

fierce pivot
storm pecan
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gotcha

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built inna nr200 b4 so might skip that

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meshroom s seems p cool tho, didnt really look into it but it seems to support a lotta things

serene siren
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D31/D41?

storm pecan
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ill check it out

bleak holly
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Are there any pc cases with a build in screen so that a person can make like a mobile desktop?

thick viper
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is the 450d a good case to build in with corsair psus?

serene siren
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Case isn't very relevant to psu brand

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If at all

thick viper
serene siren
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It's a mid tower, so should fit atx psu's

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Can I ask why 450d?

thick viper
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because thats what i have

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and im not buying another @serene siren

serene siren
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Ok well it's an atx case and a mesh front at that

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Idk if it's easy to build in but it'll be functional

thick viper
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ok cool

scenic lance
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is an 850w PSU enough for 7700x + 7900xtx?

sand atlas
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100% as long as it's a B tier or better on the pinned list

scenic lance
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corsair RMx, its A tier on the list

sand atlas
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More than enough then. That's one of the best of the best.

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It's also the one I use and it's been excellent

soft basin
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I was think about buying this beasty from Newegg

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bleak holly
fierce pivot
finite bobcat
sand atlas
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It's a thicker gauge wire so it can safely carry more current. 2 connections is plenty.

finite bobcat
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okok thats what i thought just making sure

winter narwhal
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Hey is there anyway of taking our the backplate anywhere here that I'm not seeing?

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mild roost
warm needle
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hello, i have a mixed hardware question pertaining my case, mobo, and gpu.

my issue is with my gpu not mounting properly, because it will not click into the gpu case notches, and won't fit into the PCIe slot because of this. ( can send photos of the issue if needed )

upbeat dew
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you need to talk some more to level up and gain the ability to share pictures

fierce pivot
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Have you taken the slot(s) out of the case where the graphics card will take up

serene siren
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She asked in like 3 places

fierce pivot
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I schee

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Reee

timid basin
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it's just that you're using two pins on each connector for 12v on 3x, three pins on 2x

timid basin
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but it's not the limit, the terminals are

finite bobcat
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sounds good ty

sand atlas
timid basin
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but 18 is already totally fine tbh

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20 and on is... controversial more or less

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but HCS is more important than the wire gauge imo

arctic summit
serene siren
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Also what is the system for?

hollow leaf
bleak holly
timid basin
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only real downsides to it is that it's not all that quiet and you'd eventually have to get a 12VHPWR cable separate down the line... but other than that, those things were built like tanks

blissful thistle
upbeat dew
past harbor
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Ah Bacca, not sure my 1st choice is psus reviewed 8 or 9 yrs ago, like that SF & evga's G2 1300w were.

timid basin
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Ah, leadex already went oos

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Then I vote for RM1000e or Cybercore

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Since both work with Corsairs' cable

fierce pivot
loud falcon
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i want a pink pc case any recommendations

upbeat dew
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buy a spray can and paint it yourself šŸ˜›

loud falcon
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thatā€™s what ima end up doing

slate creek
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I have to give it to Lenovo, this PC case looks clean AF

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ember light
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Iā€™m hoping the Fractal North comes back in stock soon

fierce pivot
slate creek
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Now this prebuilt wouldā€™ve been perfect if only it actually had XMP

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Airflow wise itā€™s honestly on par with my Lancool II Mesh but thatā€™s just going off of feeling it with my hand

hollow leaf
loud falcon
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thank you

thick viper
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what are some good cases that show off fans? I want to get a new case and some rgb fans, so i need case suggestions, preferably not the Lian Li 011 dynamic haha

sand atlas
thick viper
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oh god its 200 bucks

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thats atleast 80 more than i wanted

sand atlas
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Yeah it's not a cheap one lol

thick viper
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i might go corsair 4000d

sand atlas
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The airflow version is good

thick viper
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im not running anything too hot

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so airflow isnt a major concern

sand atlas
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In that case also check out the p400 series, and g360a

thick viper
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ok thank you a ton

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šŸ‘

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i might get the g360a

blissful thistle
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G360a is very nice

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Personal favorite

thick viper
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@blissful thistle is this case good?

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it looks nice lol

blissful thistle
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No

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Really bad honestly

thick viper
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why lol

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is it airflow

blissful thistle
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Check out the h510 flow, I have a feeling you'd like that case

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It's still mid for the price but if you're going for looks

thick viper
#

alright ill look

blissful thistle
#

And yes it's airflow, even if you're doing low power components there's really no point in getting a terrible case

thick viper
#

idk

blissful thistle
#

If you want a glass front panel get a 4000x

thick viper
#

i like the front glass parts that some cases have

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yknow

blissful thistle
#

That atleast has decent airflow

thick viper
#

to see fans

blissful thistle
#

4000x then

thick viper
#

cuz i have a 450d

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alright

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i might just save up for the hyte y60 its so pretty

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and i think airflow is fine

blissful thistle
#

Airflow on y60 is fine

sand atlas
#

Y60 is one of the top reviewed cases this year. It tried to be different without compromising too much and succeeded.

scenic lance
#

hey! does anyone have the Thermaltake Versa H18? my friend and i are trying to build with it but seem to be missing screws, any help?

sand atlas
static arch
#

Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 or Phanteks Enthoo pro 1, am very torn on which one i should get, as with tempered glass the price difference is the same...

earnest sleet
#

lian li 215 vs 205 mesh type c, which would be better?

scenic lance
#

RTX 4080 + 7700x, would an 850w be enough or would it require a 1000w?

mild roost
#

850w is enough, but why 7700X tho?

#

13600K is faster and cheaper

scenic lance
#

to be on the same motherboard platform for future x3D cpus

mild roost
#

Well if you want to spend another $400 or more for a future upgrade, then it's your choice

#

But the psu will be plenty

serene siren
#

Just wait for x3d

#

Don't invest in a placeholder chip

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Much less a new mid range

mild roost
#

^

sand atlas
#

Don't buy the future, and don't buy promises. X3D could have some critical issue we don't know about yet.

steady walrus
#

Reccomendations for a 1000w power supply?

fierce pivot
languid grail
#

Is the Enermax Revolution D.F 650w good? Itā€™s high on the psu tier list. I just want to make sure

urban tulip
#

Good PSU. Only gripe is with some cases you'll need to install it fan facing up due to some clearance stuff. Not a huge deal though in all. Nice PSU otherwise

urban tulip
#

It's funny since it's almost like enermax knew what they were doing when they designed a fan grill that would cause some clearance issues

fierce pivot
steady walrus
fierce pivot
urban tulip
# fierce pivot Whys that lol

They added this mode you can turn on where when you turn on PC/PSU fan boots up, it'll spin in reverse for a few seconds to attempt to clear dust since it's got open space to exhaust up top

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It may help mitigate dust a bit but still won't help fully

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Cool idea ig tho

fierce pivot
#

Ik that i have one but like i don't really see how that has to do with dimensions of it

urban tulip
#

Fan grill sticks out

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So you can't screw it in or sometimes even fit it in some cases fan down

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I feel like they knew that was gonna be a problem at some point and knew fan up mounting would be more common than usual

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Cause if you make a PSU and knew that it would typically be mounted fan down, you wouldn't bother making that feature imo

fierce pivot
#

Seems like a stretch imo

urban tulip
#

That's just my take on it

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I also know someone who stripped out half the screw holes on it since they tried to mount it fan down in a 4000d airflow iirc and tried tilting it to get the holes to line up

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No bueno

#

It's all good until righty tighty becomes rightly loosy

steady walrus
#

What is the difference between all of the corsair RM power supplies (RM vs RMe vs RMx)?

urban tulip
#

Rm vs rmx has a couple little things, like rmx has a slightly better fan etc. Pro's for the rm are the more bendy stock cables you get, plus possibly price. Rmx is a slightly better unit but typically more expensive and the stock cables may not bend as nicely as the rm does

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Rme uses different capacitors than rmx, and has a smaller fan. So rmx is a slightly better unit overall

past harbor
#

Rm got non-Japan caps but not necessarily a con. At 750w rmx is my pick while it's same price as RM sometimes.

urban tulip
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My pick is typically not Corsair due to the value of it

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But yeah overall with just rm series I'd probably trend towards rmx if I wanted the best unit out of those three and the price wasn't insane like it sometimes is

lapis locust
sand atlas
lapis locust
#

is it safe for 4080 at least ?

sand atlas
#

Safe, sure. Recommended? I'd still go A tier 850W

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It'll do though, that extra headroom helps

lapis locust
#

I just were looking for psu with pcie5 connector hmm

lapis locust
#

with 13600k probably

sand atlas
#

850 is enough for 4090, it doesn't spike as high as 30 series

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Even if you push the power limit to 600W it doesn't use all of it

lapis locust
#

is 4x8pin to pcie5 adapters are safe now ? hmm

sand atlas
#

The final word on that was make sure the 12+4 plug is fully seated. It can help to plug that in before putting the gpu in the slot so you have more leverage.

#

The root cause of the fires was more or less user error combined with poor design

lapis locust
#

so only issue is bad lock ?

sand atlas
#

Yeah on some cards it can seem like it's fully inserted but it's not. Wiggle it side to side a bit and see if it works itself out of the socket and if it doesn't move it's secure.

lapis locust
#

so I dont have to replace my psu I guess . couse psu prices are not good for now lol especially ones with pcie5 connector

serene siren
sand atlas
#

What do you have now?

lapis locust
#

TT toughpower gf1 1200w is in build currently . and have extra evga gt 1300w

serene siren
#

I mean, evga gt 1300 would be great

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But what's the 850w

#

Gf1 great too

lapis locust
#

oh I was asking for another build I was planning lol

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13600k + 4080 possibly

serene siren
#

You haven't bought the 850W?

lapis locust
#

no . just looking around for possibly good priced pcie5 one lol

sand atlas
#

I'm going to continue to shill corsair then and say they have the best 12vhpwr adapter

serene siren
#

Pcie5 is still a waste of extra money for no benefit

#

Go with the best value good psu regardless of 12vhpwr native or not

sand atlas
serene siren
#

The native connector literally does nothing

sand atlas
#

Boom, $20 and you turn any type 4 Corsair PSU into a 12vhpwr with much less cable clutter

lapis locust
sand atlas
#

Cablemod does

serene siren
sand atlas
serene siren
#

There you go

#

White rm850 with the white adapter

#

Easily better than a 12vhpwr native psu too

lapis locust
serene siren
#

Remember it only works with corsair psu's

sand atlas
serene siren
#

And some other type 4 psus as well

lapis locust
serene siren
#

Don't ask me which

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The cablemod one is an extender and works with any, just slap it on the end of a normal pcie cable

sand atlas
#

Many of the other brands use the same platform and pinout, I just haven't found a comprehensive list. You can always ask Luke.

serene siren
#

Yeah it's def a luke question

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1111 might know too

sand atlas
#

I don't like the cablemod cable simply because it requires so much extra case gap on an already massive gpu

serene siren
#

I've been. Ignoring that 35mm rule a bit...

sand atlas
#

That was a preliminary safety measure, it seems less necessary now

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But the cablemod cable forces the gap

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Gol durn plastic piece sticking out

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serene siren
#

Oh that comes off

sand atlas
#

WHAT

serene siren
#

Slips right off

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Yep

sand atlas
serene siren
#

It's there for decoration

lapis locust
sand atlas
#

In that case I retract my concerns

serene siren
#

One could say yes, will prevent a flex but you can also just...take it off lolol

lapis locust
#

don't judge that ram couse I have this laying around lol

serene siren
#

Ah

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I would change a couple other things tho

#

Like that psu costs more than the white one I suggested

#

Basically same psu but the cables don't have capacitance

sand atlas
#

Double SN850X's? Overkill much?

lapis locust
#

yeah I will look prices later

lapis locust
serene siren
#

Just use those

sand atlas
#

Yes. RAID them.

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10GB/s go brrrrrrr

lapis locust
#

it mostly will be used for gaming so

#

I guess 4tb total will be enough

sand atlas
#

The drive is absolutely overkill then

#

P31 if you want

lapis locust
#

hmm since I already have old 2tbs around I dont think i will buy any

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I replaced my 2tbs with 4tbs so

#

having 6x 2tb ssd around currently lol

sand atlas
#

Oh I thought you had one and were getting another, my bad, carry on

serene siren
#

I would even use hard drives for gaming tbh

#

Gaming is such a light thing

#

Ssd's help but only so far on those lol

sand atlas
#

Ehhhh, heavily depends on the games. Open world and such, SSD every time

lapis locust
#

alright what about case ?

serene siren
#

Case is a no brainer

#

Focus 2 white

lapis locust
#

I was happy with td500 actually but is there better option ??

sand atlas
#

torrent cough cough

serene siren
#

Do you have td500?

lapis locust
#

yeah

serene siren
#

Then use it yeah

#

Td500 is ok

lapis locust
#

replaced it with hyte y60 and it laying around too

serene siren
#

Lolol

#

You have too many parts man

#

Sell and commit

sand atlas
#

We're kindred spirits there, I keep all my spare parts too

#

I just upgraded my brother in law without spending a dime

lapis locust
#

yeah I building them as hobby at my free time and reselling it sometimes lol

serene siren
#

I'm selling a pc to my friend on the cheap rn

#

All spare parts

lapis locust
#

I cant stop myself buying tech stuff so older parts just laying around lol

#

I just dont know what to with my current 3090 lol pepeF

serene siren
#

Sell it

lapis locust
#

which I bought for 2.4k šŸ’ø

sand atlas
#

Upgraded his CPU from 1500X -> 2700, RAM single stick 2400c15 to dual stick 3200c16, case to my old meshify C, cooler to my old AIO, and his storage from a sata m.2 to nvme. All at no cost to me.

serene siren
#

I'm selling mine

lapis locust
#

having spare parts is good lol

lapis locust
serene siren
#

Meh, I'd rather sell it while it still has value

sand atlas
#

But it still has value to me

lapis locust
#

I still waiting for white strix 4090 so hmm I will see what I will do with it later lol

serene siren
#

I mean

#

Helping fund my xtx feels nice

#

Flip it later to offset the new card cost

lapis locust
#

I was looking for amd launch for possibly sapphire white card but amd is not compatitor to 4090 so gotta wait for white 4090

sand atlas
#

I sold my 3090 at cost and turned around to buy a 3080 ti FE for half that, and I get more fps now lol

serene siren
#

Well in a few things the XTX is in fact bettr

#

Like for me, the XTX stomps the 4090 in CAD

#

But for games no

#

White sapphire xtx would look nice

lapis locust
#

I mostly working on CAD too actually

serene siren
#

Well XTX is much faster in that and as good as the 4090 in solidworks

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Surprised me actually, then I found out the 6900XT is also amazing in CAD

#

You'd think CUDA would give the nvidia cards an advantage but no

lapis locust
#

I had 6900xt too but I had weird issues with it so replaced it with 3080ti

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I mean it was early times of 6900xt so drivers were not fully optimized and fsr wasn't even a thing lol

languid grail
#

On pc part picker it said that my psu might not fit face down. Is it a problem(do I need to pick a different psu or case) for it to be ok?

elfin trout
#

Not that big of a problem

steady walrus
#

What is the difference between HX vs HXI PSU? Also, I see that some have a blue label instead of white does that indicate something?

blissful thistle
#

Theyre both overpriced 99% of the time

mild roost
#

i is like digital power management

#

but not worth it since hx/hxi series is almost always overpriced

serene siren
#

That's usually how it goes for corsair psu's

urban tulip
#

Fan grill shape sometimes too

timid basin
#

HXi 2022 has icue compatibility, is ATX 3.0 certified, will soon include a 12VHPWR cable and has triangles

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But both have the extremely nice multirail setup, use type 4 (2013 HXi doesn't) and have otherwise similar enough electrical and noise performance

timid basin
#

Because nothing it directly competes against is cheaper

#

And you're not gonna tell me you'd choose an A-G PCIe 5 over an HXi

sand atlas
#

I'll take the Corsair cable over native 12vhpwr

#

I'm weird like that

timid basin
#

Oh, I'd do the same

sand atlas
#

Speaking of, I'd been meaning to ask if the 30 FE 12 pin plug physically fits into 12vhpwr slots

timid basin
#

It does

#

But theoratically speaking it would limit the card to 150w

#

As it can't detect any sense wires

sand atlas
#

Interesting. That can be bypassed too with a little creative wiring.

timid basin
#

You can however do the same on some 3000 founders cards and 12VHPWR

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And not have any limitations

craggy mirage
#

Just uninstalled the Android NewEgg phone application. It's frustratingly acting more like a virus, than a help. That sale banner that shows up when you load the application up, and makes you wait for it to time out before you can do anything else, is now loading up with everything I do, and has prevented me from buying two power supplies twice today, plus lose anything and everything I'm trying to look at. For example, when I went to look at the EVGA 1600w platinum power supply, I go to click on it and as I do so, that banner pops up and locks the application until it times out, but worse, the power supply I clicked on, never loads up, because the banner advertisement picks up that key press and instead loads the sale page, and again loads that banner that I now have to wait for it to time out. Hit the back button to hopefully go back, closes the application instead, and reopening the AP get stuck having that banner advertisement shoved down my throat yet again. Click search, get banner ad. Click add to cart, get banner ad. Go use browser instead, it loads the application, and even that won't display the item I was trying to buy.

#

Happened so many times, it's burned into my brain šŸ˜…. Close my eyes, and can still see Season of Final savings, burned into my eyelids.

#

Anyways, my daughter suddenly has change of heart, and allowing me to replace her GameMax PSU, that keeps shutting off without any warning. Not even the event viewer catches anything.

lunar root
gilded vault
#

anyone on for a question

tulip granite
candid moth
#

what are the best cases to get rn?

#

for like 80-120

fierce pivot
candid moth
#

USA

fierce pivot
#

fractal focus 2 (RGB), corsair 4000d airflow, phanteks g360a

sand atlas
vestal wharf
#

what psu brands are decent?

#

corsair seasonic, what else

blissful thistle
#

brand doesn't matter

#

there's a tier list pinned

vestal wharf
# blissful thistle brand doesn't matter

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08SC2ZYY4?tag=pcp0f-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 this one any good? i didnt see the name specified on the list

ASUS TUF Gaming 450W Bronze PSU, Power Supply(Axial-tech Fan Design...

ASUS TUF GAMING 450W Bronze PSU features an 80 Plus Bronze certification for energy efficiency, Axial-tech 0dB fan and military-grade components, 80cm 8-pin CPU Connector and 6-year Warranty. Brings military-grade components and a robust cooling solution together to create a power platform you ca...

blissful thistle
#

that's B tier

#

overpriced, but if already owned good

vestal wharf
#

its 69$ cad

#

10$ cheaper that an s12iii

blissful thistle
#

oh cad

#

what gpu and cpu you planning on running on it?

vestal wharf
vestal wharf
blissful thistle
#

it's fine

vestal wharf
#

yeah

blissful thistle
#

I'd take the tuf over s12iii

vestal wharf
#

cheapest i can go without it being a hazard

vestal wharf
#

ty

crystal rover
fierce pivot
#

You don't need to buy an atx 3.0 psu btw

crystal rover
#

i know. i just want one

sand atlas
#

A good Corsair power supply with the 12vhpwr cable is better than most ATX 3.0 units, and cheaper

serene siren
#

Allow me to reference a corsair psu specialist on ATX 3.0 psus:

Screenshot_20221231-1929232.png
sand atlas
#

I don't remember if TT was one of them but some of the manufacturers have real issues with the 12vhpwr

serene siren
#

Don't buy the 3.0 ones, they're a waste of money and don't function any better than the normal ones

fierce pivot
#

Don't think the tt ones had any problems but just terrible value

serene siren
#

The cables kept unpinning

fierce pivot
#

If you want native cable just get a Corsair RM(x)(e) series and their 10$ cable

sand atlas
#

Oh yeah definitely terrible value, $230 for 1000W

serene siren
sand atlas
serene siren
#

Or get a regular cheap unit and get a cablemod adapter (haven't ever heard issues with them)

fierce pivot
serene siren
#

Moddiy supposedly has decent adapters for itx as well

#

They flex easily

#

Good track record too so inclined to trust it

fierce pivot
#

Hmm corsIe site is saying they're out of stock on their 12vhpwr

sand atlas
#

Yeah even the $30 one

serene siren
#

As expected

sand atlas
#

Too popular

fierce pivot
#

Yeah but honestly the adaptor that comes with the card should be okay

serene siren
#

Yes, as long as you make triple sure

#

QUADRUPLE SURE

#

It's plugged in correctly

crystal rover
#

hmm lots to think about. thanks everyone šŸ™‚

serene siren
timid basin
#

the whole problem was overblown anyways

#

since it was like... a 3-digit failure rate

lunar root
#

Does buying the mesh front panel for the 011 improve airflow

blissful thistle
#

Yes

lunar root
#

Well the case has side instake

blissful thistle
#

My answer still stands

lunar root
#

Okay

lunar root
#

So if I put same power supply can I use the cables on the power supply if they are same

tulip granite
lunar root
#

D.F 850w

tulip granite
#

It should be fine but I think it is best to just spend the extra hour and replace the cables

#

just in case the company changed a small thing and didnt make a new formal model

lunar root
#

Well it's either that or I can take the old power supply out when the new ones comes and stick the old one into my brother's pc

sand atlas
#

If you're replacing one Revo DF with another yes you can reuse the cables

lunar root
serene siren
#

Legitimately considering

fierce pivot
#

O11 pepehmmm

#

That you o11?

serene siren
sand atlas
#

It's the O11 without saying it's the O11 so people can still have an O11 and say there's too many O11 builds

fierce pivot
#

It's a carbon copy

serene siren
#

Eh idk

#

It fits a 360 rad up top

fierce pivot
#

Doesn't the o11?

serene siren
#

Idk where I was going with that

fierce pivot
#

Lol

serene siren
#

I haven't had coffee yet

#

It reminds me more of a h510 but with a side intake

fierce pivot
#

Yeah same

serene siren
#

Which is functionally great

fierce pivot
#

It's the psu shroud that makes it looks h510 like

serene siren
#

Ye

#

I think that's a great thing though

#

It's idiot proof in the sense people will get it then fill the fans out

#

And then it works quite ok

fierce pivot
#

I lie, it is different than the o11, it comes with 1 whole fan

serene siren
#

Whoa

#

That's different ngl

fierce pivot
#

So different

#

I take back all that i said now /s

serene siren
#

Ok. I'd need to retool all my watercooling again for a Y40. I changed my mind

fierce pivot
#

Lmao good

serene siren
#

Not dropping like, 700 just to change case

#

Well if it was just the case I wouldn't mind

#

It's all on water so the gpu cooling is irrelevant

#

Weird tho, I thought the Y60 could take a bunch of 240 rads but ig I'm wrong

fierce pivot
serene siren
#

360+280

fierce pivot
#

Does o11 have more?

#

2 360s?

serene siren
#

3x360

#

But 280+360 is as much as 3x240 which is what my mini has

fierce pivot
#

Ahh right

green cedar
#

So I just got the Lenovo ideaventer 5i gaming laptop and it comes with two fans in the case but I canā€™t find any info saying if there are more spots or not and do you think I should upgrade the fans from stock otherwise?

mild roost
#

uh

#

What are you even talking about?

#

Did you mean legion 5i gaming desktop?

#

Or legion 5i gaming laptop

lucid sentinel
#

im sad the p500a case is pretty much sold out most places. went with a g500a black case. still pretty nice tho

fierce pivot
#

They're basically the same tbh i think the g has an extra fan or something

lucid sentinel
#

yeah :3 its still a nice case :3

fringe granite
sand atlas
#

Doesn't appear to be so until Luke rules on it I'd consider it B tier like most other Segotep gold units

fringe granite
#

well segotep is offering it to me for free

#

let's find out, i happen to be in the market for a new psu so good timing

fringe granite
#

looking at the psu tier list methodology, if the info available is correct then it must be at least B tier

#

not enough info to determine if A tier

#

B tier:
āœ… OTP claimed
āœ… ACRF or ZVS primary (LLC resonant claimed)
āœ… DC-DC secondary (claimed)
āœ… APFC with full VAC input range (claimed)
āœ… 12V ripple below 100mV under 110% overload (35mV claimed)
āœ… rated for 40C (45C claimed)

A tier:
āœ… ZVS primary (LLC resonant claimed)
āœ… ripple below 50mV under all loads (35mV claimed)
ā“ <= 3% transient response on 12V rail (no claim)
āœ… <= 3% voltage deviation from 12V nominal (8mV claimed)
āœ… >= 30k hours MTBF fan (40k claimed)
āœ… 105C caps (105C claimed)
ā“ 18AWG on primary 12V leads and 20AWG on secondary/ground (no claim)
ā“ OCP, OPP, OTP claimed, no independent reviews to verify

#

they have this interesting? table related to transients

image.png
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the claimed efficiency curve at 115V is basically platinum, it's like 0.3% off

#

these are all just manufacturer claims though, hard to take them at face value

#

i really wish there was an independent review lol

lofty pewter
#

Look at their other PSU claims of reviewed products and see how accurate it is. Gives you a track record of the marketing and spec accuracy.

serene siren
#

@timid basin segotep gm850, thoughts? Tier?

sand atlas
#

I couldn't even find any internal shots of it to help with a guess

fringe granite
#

I could take it apart and take pics when I receive it, but I'm not smart enough to really identify anything in there

sand atlas
#

DM the internal shots to Luke maybe

fringe granite
#

this is all I could find

sand atlas
#

That shows some of the DC side at least

fringe granite
#

it's better than nothing probably?

#

at least B tier should be reasonable given their track record anyways, just wondering if this could be A tier material

sand atlas
#

There's absolutely no guarantee that's what it actually looks like inside though

fringe granite
#

yeah

timid basin
fringe granite
timid basin
#

Assuming you have a philips head screwdriver, latex gloves and don't tend to do stupid things

urban tulip
#

Step #1: verify by hand that the main cap works

fringe granite
#

I have a philips head screwdriver, but no to the other two

sand atlas
#

If it's never been powered on I don't think you'll need insulation gloves

edgy flume
#

is the GAMDIAS Talos M1B a good case for airflow?

lofty pewter
sand atlas
#

Sure it has, but like months before it's sold

sand atlas
edgy flume
#

Ot has a large gap

mild roost
#

Doesn't change much tbh

#

It still has glass slab on front blocking a lot of airflow

edgy flume
#

Ic

edgy flume
#

What about the y40

serene siren
#

Y40 will be good if you follow the airflow instructions

#

They made that case for people who want glass, it's going to be decent, not amazing

#

As far as perf goes anyway

timid basin
#

Coming from someone who definitely shocked himself a few times

#

And completely by my own fault too

violet rock
#

gamdias is a lot bigger than ive give them credit for, wild

#

still doodoo tho peebo

fringe granite
#

@timid basin are you here?

#

I'm not smart enough to know exactly what you want to see

#

I see some ICs here that may be of interest? some kind of controller? maybe for protections

IMG20230110185250.jpg
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main cap probably

IMG20230110185349.jpg
#

better view of some of the smaller caps

IMG20230110185436.jpg
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and the smaller brown caps

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all caps appear to be rated for 105C so that's good i think

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another little IC, hard to capture clearly but it's labeled

EM
8564A
FNJ5055

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not sure what this component is but it's got an identifier on it

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like I said I don't know what to specifically look for but I think I captured all points of interest

sand atlas
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Looking good to me and my untrained eye. Definitely B tier or better, possibly A if it's not missing something critical.

fringe granite
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soldering on the connectors looks very neat

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sand atlas
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Being a "true" ATX 3.0 unit the transient response should be good

fringe granite
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I would like to actually use it now, so hopefully I got everything

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I'm gonna put it back together now

sand atlas
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Watch him want a pic of the underside of the pcb

fringe granite
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unfortunately I don't have any fancy PSU testing equipment

fringe granite
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but I'm also not really confident in taking out the pcb lol

sand atlas
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Resistors and such I'd imagine, small stuff

sand atlas
fringe granite
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shrug I'm just a monkey with a screwdriver

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I dunno what I'm doing in here

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I know "try not to lick the big capacitor"

sand atlas
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No definitely do that, it's spicy

fringe granite
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oh I love spicy food

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the fact that they included a white cable tie with every single cable is really nice wow

mild roost
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So with eyeballing, it could be a decent psu?

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I'm interested in someone actually reviewing it now

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That psu is also available in my region, and it's pretty nicely priced ngl

fringe granite
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hopefully luke understands what he's looking at from my images lol

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because i sure don't

sand atlas
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It's B tier minimum, could possibly qualify for A. C tier units don't look that nice lol.

mild roost
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Even then it's still gonna be the cheapest atx 3.0 psu

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B tier is good for a budget unit to me if it's not an A

sand atlas
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If it meets the ATX 3.0 full spec I'd say it's an A tier candidate. Sadly it'll be some time before testing is designed for that, let alone completed.

mild roost
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That's a shame

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I don't like coming to conclusions quickly but this looks very promising

fringe granite
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i got it for a pretty great price so definitely a budget unit for me hutao_kekw

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the full price is still pretty good for white 850w gold atx 3.0

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the native 12vhpwr cable is rated for 600w with 4 sense pins

mild roost
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The price matches TT GF2 here

fringe granite
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segotep sent it to me for free lol

mild roost
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lol

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That's sick

fringe granite
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i happened to need a new power supply

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so nice timing

mild roost
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There's this cheap bronze modular psu that apparently managed to handle like 100w over rated wattage here in thailand

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Cables do be toasty but the psu was doing it just fine

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I don't remember the vid anymore, sadly

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Just that I spotted it again in lazada

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Now I don't know about psus, but I think that's an indication to something that's not a bomb?

sand atlas
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100W over rating isn't too uncommon

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Especially in higher power ones

fringe granite
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my old 750w was observed to not shut off until 1000w shrug

sand atlas
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I've seen 550s trip opp at 700

mild roost
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So is it really safe? lmao

sand atlas
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Short term yeah

mild roost
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I don't think it being this cheap is a good thing

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Only $50 for 750w modular bronze unit

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Nah, $30 actually

sand atlas
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Not a good sign

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Do you know the model

mild roost
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It's a dtech pw071a

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Hm okay I found that vid I watched

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It's all in thai so just skip along and watch it muted lmao

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https://youtu.be/cBI0AhxYfpU

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Load tested and taken apart in that vid

tight arch
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You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about

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I am happy, my wallet is not

serene siren
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the cougar case LUL

edgy flume
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Ive come down to 3 cases. Hyte Y40, NZXT H5 Flow, Or Talos E3 Mesh.

Out of these which one is the best Price to performance wise

lunar root
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If your budget would reach the H7 flow is better choice over all but is pretty expensive

blissful thistle
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The y40 is good, just normally very overpriced

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The h5 flow is basically an nzxt branded worse 4000d airflow

timid basin
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let's have a look, give me a minute to make some notes

fringe granite
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take your time

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i'd like to comment that it reduced coil whine on my 3090 strix a decent amount compared to 850w xpg core reactor

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just tested that

timid basin
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fan is made by BOK, manufacturer I've only seen with some Gamdias units before... from what I'm aware a rather cheap OEM

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the ICs you saw are the two DC controllers

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caps are mostly ChengX, other one I'm not sure about

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rather low end Chinese manufacturer... would've preferred to see something like Elite at this kind of pricepoint

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other IC is an Excellence MOS EM8564A, probably the 5VSB PWM controller?

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other one is an Anpec APW7073 in case you're curious

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a decent enough DC-DC controller

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@fringe granite are you able to see the MOSFETs attached to the heatsink by any chance?

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12V FETs are at the bottom of the unit, since they're not put on a daughterboard

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same with the other controllers

fringe granite
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no, sorry but i am not really comfortable enough with opening anything past the shell

timid basin
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no worries

fringe granite
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also already installed the psu and don't really want to take it back out

timid basin
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I'm just noting things based off what I can see anyways

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it looks a bit... cheap for the most part honestly

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like, the DC-DC controller is fine, the 5VSB PWM controlelr is fine, caps are likely cheaper than I would've liked, most of the other stuff is out of sight

fringe granite
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i would expect some cut corners for a $120 atx 3.0 psu

timid basin
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I don't

fringe granite
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the others are like $160+ i think

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for 850w gold

timid basin
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still, I'm gonna be that person and point at the fact it's directly competing against stuff like revolution DF, Pure Power 11 FM, RM(x/e), A-GF, Core reactor, C-series 2022, GF1, V-series v2 and so on

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which all use better parts as far as the ones I can see so far

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ATX 3.0 isn't easy to meet, but it's not so hard to the point that you have to cheap out on half the PSU to meet it

fringe granite
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that's fair

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any guess on whether this would be like B tier? C tier?

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i don't have the equipment to test stuff like ripple and transient response

timid basin
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eh, it would be speculative regardless

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but hard to say

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somewhere around there probably

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but there are a lot of existing options that I'd take over it, honestly

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especially since I don't know who even certified it for them or if it's inhouse testing

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because they're not on Cyben, nor are listed by Intel

fringe granite
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i see

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they sent it to me for free so that makes it a pretty easy choice for me lol

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the fan on my xpg core reactor started failing and i didn't want to rma it while it was still in my system

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now i can rma it

timid basin
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makes sense

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I've indeed heard of a few reports of HongHua's starting to rattle

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but it's probably just a few lemons, since HongHua is used in a ton of units

edgy flume
fierce pivot
bleak holly
fierce pivot
bleak holly
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I have had many cats so I am saying this knowing how most cats behave.

fierce pivot
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Ahh right

timid basin
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Don't worry

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Cat hairs are conductive too

fierce pivot
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Fun

lunar root
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@sand atlas NZXT has released new cases and i was scrolling there page AYO thats negative pressure isnt it

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sand atlas
lunar root
bleak holly
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Which is better overwhelming positive or negative pressure?

sand atlas
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Positive by far

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It'll repel dust particles

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And other things

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Negative has to get air from somewhere so it pulls it from non filtered gaps and vents

serene siren
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Positive yeah

serene siren
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1 in a million now

timid basin
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it depends on the case with pressure how it performs

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some do better in positive, some should only be put in negative

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in the case of O11 and such... who cares

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side intake is practically useless

serene siren
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True

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O11 likes that upwards chute style

timid basin
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which is to be expected

lunar root
sand atlas
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You'd think it would, but 2 things. That's what filters are for, and the pressure keeps the particles from getting into other parts of the case.

lunar root
lunar root
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But can't dust get past filter

sand atlas
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Yes. Especially a dirty filter.

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But would you rather be pulling air through a non-filtered spot?

lunar root
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No

coarse moss
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Whats a good 450 watt PSU that can fit in a micro atx case?

blissful thistle
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and what country

coarse moss
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Lemme pull the link

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Im guessing you want the Case as well

blissful thistle
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doesn't matter

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any psu will fit any matx case

coarse moss
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Canada

blissful thistle
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alr few min

coarse moss
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Thank you

sand atlas
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Minimum I'd be comfortable with

blissful thistle