cases-psu-and-cooling

[hidden thicket]

Go 🙂

[sand atlas]

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-v-gold-pro-sf-1000f14tg-1000w/p/1HU-024C-00035

Cheapest 1000W worth buying right now

[late plinth]

what case is good with airflow and big enough for a evga 3080ti?

I was looking into the NZXT h7

[fierce pivot]

I'd go for the phanteks g360a or fractal design focus 2, corsair 4000d airflow /5000d airflow and phanteks p500a are also decent options

[blissful thistle]

good for you?

[next knot]

is the Antec NX Series NX700 Mid-Tower ATX Gaming Case or Antec Dark League DF600 FLUX for 5600 and 6900xt with 1 nvme and 1 hdd

[vestal wharf]

cx750m is a good psu right?

[blissful thistle]

its ok

[scenic lance]

Heyo, looking for a case for my new rig that I'm building.

I want something like this, but my Motherboard has 7 expansion slots, and this case only has room for 4.

I'd prefer little to no RGB, but colourful in general. I don't want my PC to have to be turned on to look pretty, and the lights keep me up at night.

Any ideas on cases? Again, looking for this cute pastel kinda colour and vibe.

[next knot]

For a woman it looks good but for a man no way too much pink

[blissful thistle]

LOL

You have to be a child, right?

[next knot]

Im a man i prefer black or white cases

[blissful thistle]

You're a boy

Not to mention your preference is yours, not all men's preference

[mild roost]

don't gotta be like that just cuz someone wants something pink

[blissful thistle]

That's like saying you like pizza with pineapple, so every other man likes pizza with pineapple

[mild roost]

it ain't your problem kek

anyway, hm

[blissful thistle]

Now I want to go out of my way to find a pink case for my build

[mild roost]

pink cases are pretty hard to find

i guess there's some on amazon?

[blissful thistle]

Alr have p360a though, maybe I'll make it pink

[mild roost]

like one of those random brands

big brands has no pink cases

[blissful thistle]

I'd just scroll through pcpartpicker

[mild roost]

lol bet

[blissful thistle]

Oh wait

You can sort by color on pcp

[mild roost]

ya

[blissful thistle]

Overpriced for what it is, but would this work? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BTKKHx/vetroo-al600-atx-mid-tower-case-vt-case-al600-pk

Pink fractal design pop air is ugly asf

[scenic lance]

Oh hell yeah that looks nice

[scenic lance]

What if I'm neither?

[dark elm]

💀

[sand atlas]

You know it used to be the opposite, pink was for boys and blue was for girls. The clothing industry changed that because money.

[knotty mesa]

Don’t care, just buy black

[scenic lance]

Lmao I ask for a pink case

Without revealing my gender

And suddenly it turns into pink is a girls colour and blue is a boys colour

Like

Idgaf what your opinions are I wanted a pink case XD

[knotty mesa]

Ok

[fierce pivot]

Idk i think it's kinda cool

Although not a huge fan of the shade

Maybe it looks different irl

[blissful thistle]

I just don't like the pink with the black

It contrasts weirdly, especially the fans through the front

[wind eagle]

can someone help me with a case setup

[sand atlas]

Details?

[wind eagle]

i have a thermaltake core v21 and i was wondering what the best setup would be

[sand atlas]

Interesting case

Layout options seem limited, I'd go for the front fan being intake and any others exhaust

Stackable, interesting concept

Kinda defeats the purpose of a sff build

[wind eagle]

lol yea

i just have a single case and i just put it on its side, i would send a pic but idk where to send it

[sand atlas]

DM it to me and I'll put it up

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1039336282750459904/1039336515207184425/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1039336282750459904/1039336570857193502/unknown.png

Yep so I'd do that front 200mm fan as intake and exhaust fans on that "top" rail and/or back

It's going to take some effort working in this case but I think it'll be worth it

[wind eagle]

i was thinking of putting fans on the side of the case where that mounting bar is in the middle of the side of the case

[wind eagle]

i like cube

[next knot]

df700 vs df800 which should i get with 5600 and 6800xt

[vast wraith]

where can i buy a silverstone fara 312 or 312z? it obviously exists but i have no clue where to get my hands on it

[sand atlas]

All I can see are obscure sites from Hong Kong

[vast wraith]

do they have it?

[sand atlas]

I don't speak chinese so idk but here's the link. I've never heard of the site so I can't vouch for legitimacy. It's about $70 usd plus whatever shipping if they even do international.
https://shop1.pegasus.hk/products/210748/silverstone-銀欣-fara-312z-micro-atx-機箱

[vast wraith]

damn so it does exist

ill do some digging on this site i guess

huh on my screen it says $549

[sand atlas]

That's in HKD

[vast wraith]

i see

how did you find this website anyway

[sand atlas]

Google

[vast wraith]

i searched everywhere for hours and i could never find anything carrying it

[sand atlas]

All I did was type "silverstone fara 312z" into Google and it was the 5th result lol

Gotta love their algorithm

[vast wraith]

some goody ahh bs

i aint getting none of that

[sand atlas]

I've ordered from Hong Kong before, I frequent Aliexpress, and Google would know that since I use it to search their site sometimes. It's in my favor that international results would show.

[vast wraith]

huh well i guess i need to use international sites more often

[edgy flume]

is the Corsair HX750i a good psu?

[blissful thistle]

Yes, normally overpriced though

[edgy flume]

Alright, Was wondering because my friend gave me one

[timid basin]

it's rather old, but holds up pretty well

originally released in 2013

[edgy flume]

Should i use it or just get this
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-RM850x-Fully-Modular-Supply/dp/B08R5JPTMZ?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1

[timid basin]

Both should do fine

HXi should last a decade without issue

[edgy flume]

Also i dont have the cables for the HXi anymore

Are there specific cables i need to buy for it

[sand atlas]

Corsair has a compatibility chart for their cables, you can buy the right "type" for it that way

[edgy flume]

Alright thanks

[fierce pivot]

@timid basin hey do you know if the RME takes type 3 pcie cables?

[timid basin]

it does

because it's type 4

[fierce pivot]

cool thanks corsair hasnt updated their charts

[timid basin]

Jon hasn't either

but I can tell you it's type 4

because ehm... hi

[serene siren]

lol

[fierce pivot]

oh didnt notice that

[timid basin]

you're welcome

just one small note

DON'T put a 24 pin cable from a type 3 PSU into a type 4

because that cable is actually different

[fierce pivot]

Yeah ik that ue

[marble girder]

I need a big black case (bigger than purebase 500DX) with minimal/tasteful RGB that can house a 360MM AIO in the front

I gotta fit a 360MM long GPU in there too lol

[serene siren]

lololol

g360a?

can fit a 360 on top or in front

and it's $90

[marble girder]

I have a $200 case budget too

[serene siren]

max gpu length in it is 400mm

[marble girder]

Prefer one that's a bit quieter/noise dampening but idk if there is

[serene siren]

hmm quieter

[marble girder]

My be quiet muffled my 8TB drives pretty well

[serene siren]

fractal torrent? fractal meshify 2?

[marble girder]

I couldn't hear my 2 hard drives at max in a dead silent room

[serene siren]

o11 evo?

[marble girder]

Can the meshify 2 fit a 360mm aio in the front and a 360mm GPU?

[serene siren]

I feel like it would

[marble girder]

Liquid freezer 2 is a chonky cooler

[serene siren]

very very big

nvm

341

oof

g360a is bigger huh

https://www.phanteks.com/Eclipse-G360A.html

I'll leave this here to look at, I'll also bring up the torrent

[marble girder]

How the hecc, the meshify 2 is 100mm longer than my current case and can't fit the GPU? Odd

[serene siren]

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/torrent/torrent/black-rgb-tg-light-tint/

torrent has a weird fitment for LF2 tho just a warning

[marble girder]

Oh no wym weird

[serene siren]

Look up Fal'cie's comments on his result with it

[marble girder]

That terrifies me

[serene siren]

you might be stuck mounting it at the front without the grille

[marble girder]

If it involves any Dremel or cutting I'm out

Okay I don't want something that jank XD

[sand atlas]

360mm fits fine but 420mm won't. Other 420s might fit.

[serene siren]

Ah

I thought yours was 360

My b so it'll work

[sand atlas]

Nope I went the whole hog

[serene siren]

Also o11 evo is good for huge

[sand atlas]

But there is no top mount and LF2 can't do bottom mount

[serene siren]

Very functional size

Ye it's def front mount only with lf2 in torrent

[sand atlas]

Also the 420mm can technically fit on the torrent... just not in the torrent

Have to get creative lol

[serene siren]

Lian Li lancool 2 mesh/lancool 3 might be good too

Fractal pop silent XL?

Uhhhh

[marble girder]

Meshify 2 XL also seems kinda cool

It looks massive

[marble girder]

I have a 12600K pulling 180 watts, I only needed 360 lol

[serene siren]

Hell you could downsize to 280

If that helps

[marble girder]

I'd rather not buy another AIO

I may also upgrade to a 13700k eventually

Which is literally just an overclocked 12900k

[serene siren]

The hottest intel

Ok fair

[marble girder]

If I have a CPU pulling 280 watts in the future I need this cooler lol

[sand atlas]

"Downsize"
Functionally they're the same

[serene siren]

Yes but one fits in different cases to the other

[marble girder]

Is the Meshify 2 XL considerably bigger than the meshify 2?

[serene siren]

It should be

XL in da name

yes, extremely bigger

420/480 in the front

up to 549mm gpu length depending on config

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/meshify/meshify-2-xl-dark-tempered-glass/dark-tempered-glass/

[sand atlas]

Meanwhile, in AMD land...

[marble girder]

Okay look at me

$280 12600k

[sand atlas]

All fans max speed ☠️

[marble girder]

Or at the time $380 5800x

12600k was decently cheap and really fast for the price

And you think I care about heat? I just bought a 450 watt space heater

[blissful thistle]

I just bought a 13600k, gonna see how a clc 280 handles it and probably oc it soon enough

[sand atlas]

At least even with every fan I have maxed it's barely audible... until I ramp the GPU

Damn FE

[marble girder]

FE silly

Although it would've actually fit in my case

Granted this case supports 360mm GPUs just without the radiator...

[serene siren]

what case?

[marble girder]

Purebase 500DX

I got it for the rubberized hard drive cage

8TB drives are noisey

[serene siren]

broken record suggestion, but you could swap to 280 on top if you don't manage to find a nice replacement case

while we're at it too have a look at this
https://store.cablemod.com/product/cablemod-pro-modmesh-12vhpwr-pci-e-cable-extension-black-16-pin-to-triple-8-pin-45cm/

did you have a look at the pop air XL?

[gaunt tendon]

5000d airflow is a safe bet tbh

[marble girder]

Meshify 2 (non XL) seems to fit a similar length 4090 and a radiator

I also really do not want to buy another AIO

[serene siren]

I know

Just saying if nothing fancies you

[marble girder]

Pop air xl looks decent

Do you think the meshify 2 will fit the 356mm GPU and the 360mm liquid freezer 2?

Or should I go for the pop air

Oh yeah it'll fit in the meshify 2, max GPU length is 491 without fans

That gives me over 5 inches for fans + radiator

[serene siren]

I feel like pop silent would be quieter

[marble girder]

Woah they have a pop silent??

[serene siren]

then meshify 2

then pop air

[marble girder]

Okay you have my attention

[serene siren]

ya they do iirc

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/pop/pop-xl-silent/black-tg-clear/

don't expect beautiful thermals tho

[sand atlas]

Yeah it's like the H510, more closed off front

[serene siren]

very much h510

[marble girder]

I feel like there's going to be not enough airflow considering I got 650 watts of heats being produced

[serene siren]

I mean if you did it like this

fan on pcie slots intake, rear intake

top aio, exhaust

that would kinda work

you'd want filters tho

[sand atlas]

Rear intake would suck in exhaust from the GPU tho

[serene siren]

mhm but it'd be recirculating better

[marble girder]

Torn between the air and the meshify 2 rn

I like the look of the meshify 2

[serene siren]

then go meshify

honestly it's still a good case after all this time

[sand atlas]

Yeah, it doesn't need to be the latest thing to be good. Cases and coolers tend to age well.

[marble girder]

Wait can you mount the liquid freezer 2 in the front? Doesn't look like there's much room for front radiators

[serene siren]

meshify 2 xl iirc said up to 480mm

[marble girder]

I don't think I need the XL though

490mm of GPU clearance on the non XL, which is plenty for GPU + radiator

Do I really need the XL? It'd rather not buy the XL if I don't have to

[serene siren]

if meshify 2 fits then it's fine

I thought it wasn't big enough my b

[marble girder]

Meshify 2 looks nice but every website has a week shipping on it oml

Microcenter out of stock on it too ofc

[gaunt tendon]

could go p600s open the panels upfront when need airflow then put it back on when need low noise but low power consumption workloads

[sand atlas]

Looks like at around $100 there's a new contender to add to recommendations

[serene siren]

Yeah for air cooled builds

[fierce pivot]

Fractal focus 2 looks good too i wanna see reviews

[sand atlas]

AIO would be fine too, it comes in "liquid cooling" mode with extra space for top radiator

And you can adjust it to air cooling mode fairly easily

[serene siren]

Ah does it? I didn't look

I just skimmed the review and saw front mount looks wonk

GN made a lot of sense tho, they could've just made it slightly bigger lol

[sand atlas]

Yep lol, "why isn't it just... 2cm taller?"

[brittle bridge]

Hola I had a little question, I have a PC with an i5-12600k rtx 3050 running on a Corsair RM650x psu, im having troubles with my peripherals mostly the mic where it disconnects all of sudden and to fix it I have to disable the mic driver and re enable it, sometimes this affects my mouse and keyboard and I end up replugging them for them to work, is this a power related issue?

[blissful thistle]

100% no

Try updating drivers, bios, and chipset drivers

That build would likely be fine with a 350w lol

[brittle bridge]

Ive done everything possible

Bios

Chipset

Clean system like 7 times

Replugging everything

Im truly lost

I remember when i got the motherboard after the return period i started getting the issue not enough usb control hubs

And then the disconnecting started

Send it for warranty

Came back

It was fine

Then this

Disconnecting every peripheral

I tried running my system without the gpu it seemed fine

Sometimes it happens out of the blue sometimes gaming

Sometimes nothing happens

Its not reoccurring, gigabyte is next to useless, i found a bug with steelseries so now im in contact with them

I cant determine if its hardware or software and since no errors are popping in the event log im just lost

First pc build btw :’)

[fierce pivot]

Did you try rma the motherboard?

[vagrant lantern]

anyone can recommend a budget itx case that support atx psu?

[wide parrot]

Sama IM01/Techware Fusion is technically a matx case but supports itx as well

and ATX psu

[vagrant lantern]

link?

[wide parrot]

another option
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811854109?Item=N82E16811854109

[vagrant lantern]

ty

[wide parrot]

https://www.tecware.co/fusion
Also sold as the SAMA IM01, exact same case

[vagrant lantern]

i think i need a pcie extension cable for the phanteks eclipse p200a

[wide parrot]

you can do horizontal or vertical

Also now that I look at it the P200A isn't that small

30 liters

sama is ~21

[vagrant lantern]

the reason im building this is because my main pc takes too much space on my desk

and the p200a is my best option on price

or there is something better

[wide parrot]

Do you already have an itx motherboard?

[vagrant lantern]

ye

[wide parrot]

especially with the rebate the p200A is a pretty good option if you need to use an atx psu

just keep in mind it won't be tiny

[vagrant lantern]

yeah cuz i dont want to spend more money on sff psu

[wide parrot]

Meshlicious supports atx psu but it's $100 without fans

[vagrant lantern]

thats expensive

i could just 3d print one

[wide parrot]

everything itx is expensive

[vagrant lantern]

idk i might f### it up

i saw someone did it on yt

[wide parrot]

3d printed a case?

[vagrant lantern]

ye

[wide parrot]

huh

[vagrant lantern]

it will probally break in to peices after dropping to the groudn from 1 inch abovce

[wide parrot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dzRY3LLsXcDX5Qt5PvQOrAJhw0EK9Cy7UtQPdyRp6PY/edit#gid=0

https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/8ho3ut/smallest_itx_case_that_can_fit_an_atx_psu/

[vagrant lantern]

I would suffer from putting in my components to a small case ( prob will give me ptsd )

[wide parrot]

I put a matx board and atx psu into my sama im01

it was a pain

[vagrant lantern]

damn

[wide parrot]

the motherboard is so tight that the bottom fans block access to part of it

but it works

[vagrant lantern]

soooooo

ITX=PAIN

[wide parrot]

not neccesarily

I was pushing the limits of my case

with an itx board it would be way easier

[vagrant lantern]

sometimes

depends

[wide parrot]

what case you got currently?

[vagrant lantern]

so for the p200a there is space for hardrive right?

msi gungnir 110r black

for somereason

i put a matx mobo in a atx case

[wide parrot]

matx or itx?

[vagrant lantern]

matx for the mobo but the case is atx

[wide parrot]

oh

that's not uncommon

matx is usually cheaper

[vagrant lantern]

yeah well i bought this pc a year ago and i dont knwo two much about computers

[brittle bridge]

After i rma’d it the first time no

Only did it once

But it took 2 months approx

Thus why im avoiding sending it a second time

[marble girder]

I love this case

It's really big

I thought the meshify 2 would be reasonably sized since they have an XL version...

It has its own fan hub built in which is great!

[vagrant lantern]

any good 850 watt psu recommendations?

[sand atlas]

Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 has been a great price lately

https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-series-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-w-850-w/p/N82E16817153432

[vagrant lantern]

ty

[next knot]

Wait til next week it will get discounted on sunday

[vagrant lantern]

will it drop to 80$

[next knot]

With code

[fierce pivot]

Probably not but who knows

96$ is really good tho, best I've seen for a good 850w

[upbeat dew]

the 12600k is goin to fall to 250 on bfriday week... im tempted

[fierce pivot]

With 13600k non f stably at 300 I'm not surprised

[blissful thistle]

Phanteks is going to be releasing a g500a soon

I think its a p500a without a psu shroud? Maybe?

[opal torrent]

what is a good psu for around 70€

[blissful thistle]

Country, gpu and cpu?

[fierce pivot]

P500a has a psu shroud

[blissful thistle]

I know, I think the g500a is going to be the p500a without one

[fierce pivot]

Ahh

[opal torrent]

gpu is rx 6700, cpu is ryzen 5 5600, and im from croatia but im buying everything on amazon deutschland

[blissful thistle]

Alr one min

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/8LNxFT/msi-mag-a-bn-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-mag-a650bn

[opal torrent]

okay thanks a lot

[fierce pivot]

ik the shipping on this is more but the one bacca reccomened was c tier and this one is a pretty nice improvement https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08R3YCLVN

[scenic lance]

anyone know of a vertical gpu bracket that has a gen 4 16x riser cable?

it needs to have 2 slots aswell to support my gpu

[opal torrent]

thank u

[fierce pivot]

no probably

[weak burrow]

wegg

[frank heart]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/HHdXNc would this psu be good for the pc or would you guys suggest going to a titanium or plat?

[upbeat dew]

titanium or platinum says nothing about quality

but yeah rmx series is A tier

[frank heart]

Thanks Ravell

[sand atlas]

This one would save you 30 aud https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/WxZzK8/msi-mpg-a850gf-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a850gf

[fierce pivot]

Also to note, that motherboard and cooler are pretty poorly priced, I'd go for this instead unless you already own them a while or paid way less. I'd also swap the ram for 3600cl18 and save 100$ but up to you (left both in list) and the cooler in the list i sent is better btw
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/QrwnrD

[frank heart]

gotcha i'll check it out thanks guys massive help : D

[fierce pivot]

No probs

[serene siren]

What the heck

@frank heart
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/sHMY78
Same performance for $1000 less

Hell even a good bit faster in a lot of cases

Or swap the gpu back to 3080 and you're still 1000 cheaper
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/L8gc78

[blissful thistle]

Not sure I'd trust that psu with a 3080

Not great with transients iirc

[frank heart]

which psu the Corsair RM850x ?

[serene siren]

He meant the cooler master one

I mean even still with the MSI 850W* AGF it's a good 950 cheaper for the same performance or better in games

[fierce pivot]

Eh I'd pay the extra for the 850w

[serene siren]

Lol regardless it's definitely worth saving 30% off the build period

[fierce pivot]

indeed

id go for a 12600k build tho then

[serene siren]

Eh idk, cpu is like twice the price lol

[fierce pivot]

id do something like this https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/zcDdcb

[serene siren]

Fix tha cooler reeee
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/drFnrD

Also check this out ANOTHER deepcool LS exists

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/gyYmP6/deepcool-le300-8585-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-r-le300-bklnmc-g-1

LE LC LS

I also found this

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/GCjBD3/deepcool-ag620-6788-cfm-cpu-cooler-r-ag620-bknnmn-g-1

Owo

[fierce pivot]

ik but icky

[fierce pivot]

ayo

[serene siren]

LE720 when

[fierce pivot]

120mm aios spawn of satan

[serene siren]

Bruv it's LE

Another variant

[fierce pivot]

like eggs?

[serene siren]

Wait wth this is confusing

360 version is LE700

There's a CG540 and CG560??

Omg

So LS LC LE LT LE Mars aios

Sorry lemme fix that

Then AK AG and AS

Then ak500 and as500 are two completely different levels of tower cooler

[fierce pivot]

Omggg

[fierce pivot]

Ak500 seems pointless at like 50$ tbh

[frank heart]

https://tenor.com/view/jordandabarbie-gif-20695419

[craggy mirage]

Anyone haphazard a guess what this standoff is from? It's like a motherboard standoff, but 30 times larger.

Went to work on this old case a few minutes ago, to tighten up the screws and bolts that get loose from all the vibrations, and as I lifted the case up, that standoff fell out.

It's definitely not a normal standard sized standoff. I'm thinking either a part that never got used, or possibly not case related at all, and the magnetic filters must of picked it up at some point and broke free. Pasting the case type below.

https://www.newegg.com/black-thermaltake-chaser-series-extra-big-atx-tower/p/N82E16811133191?item=N82E16811133191

[vagrant lantern]

why is my psu fan go so high when i play a game that doesnt even use my hardware?

[sand atlas]

What PSU

[vagrant lantern]

tuf bronze

[sand atlas]

Asus?
If you're sure the wattage is sufficient for your hardware and it bugs you enough you can RMA it. Sounds like a faulty sensor but nothing catastrophic.
Also just to double check... The fan does have access to air that isn't blocked off right?

[vagrant lantern]

there is nothing blocking the fan but when i play the game it its normal but when i go to the menu and i have msi afterburner running, the power was only like 150watts and the fan prob goes really high

also sometime its random

[sand atlas]

Yeah sounds like a bad fan or sensor. If it bothers you enough you can RMA it if it's in warranty.

[vagrant lantern]

i put in another pc it never do that

[craggy mirage]

Bios configuration, could also be playing a role. If you really unplugged all those cables, to try it in another case, and it's running differently, I'd look at the bios settings. It's quite possible power consumption is being changed in bios.

[vagrant lantern]

what do i do in the bios?

[upbeat dew]

what?

bios has nothing to do with the fan on the psu, as fal'cie said, it could be a faulty sensor or some blockage on the fan, fan only speed up if the components inside the psu are real hot

[urban tulip]

worth a shot to update bios tho if thats all you have

its a fix that has helped some, especially if this issue recently came after a windows update

[craggy mirage]

Not exactly true. One of My Aorus Z390 which still uses a GameMax 1050w RGB power supply, shares the power output that one of my SATA lines use. That's the one that used to have 14 Sata drives hooked to it. Seller talked me through several bios settings two years ago, when the RGB kept going out, or dimming every time two or more SATA drives were accessed. To think I had the chance to return four of those back then. Sadly it was before I met you all to be warned of GameMax lol.

[upbeat dew]

yeah you are talking about rgb control, thats an entirely other thing

fan control on the psu is directly controlled by the psu based on the sensors on the pcb

thermistors on the heatsinks

things like that

[craggy mirage]

Been using GameMax power supplies for 10 years!!! The 750W model with the blue lights, those have a time bomb and set to die after they get used for a specific amount of time. Big hint was my daughter's and sons power supplies dying days apart from one another.

[upbeat dew]

hmmm dimming rgb sounds more like power outage... still nothing to do with the fans

still pretty rare... sure your gamemax units are weird

[craggy mirage]

Ravel, while we're on the subject of thermostats. The Bios shows 6 thermostats on the Aorus Master Z690, yet only comes with 2 that get hooked to two separate sets of headers. Manual only talks of two, so I gather there are 4 more built into the motherboard?

[upbeat dew]

or 4 headers for additional probes

check your mobo manual for that 😛

[craggy mirage]

All new systems I built have EVGA, and planning buying 3 more to get rid of the GameMax in older systems.

Manuel only shows two, and the PDF, shows the image of 6, but no info. Actually, I got to go look at that bios screen. I'll feel real stupid if those meters arent temperature based.

[upbeat dew]

are built in sensors according to gigglebyte

5 minute search on google

[craggy mirage]

I just got back from food shopping. Purchased 20 cases of soda. Buy 3 cases, get two free. Used my cart and power chair to haul it all back. My bad luck hit as I was crossing the highway intersection. Blew a fuse half way across, which killed both motors and lights. My son pushed the scooter rest of the way, and we both pushed and pulled the cart onto the sidewalk. Had to send him back home to get more fuses. I forgot to adjust the voltage to handle the load 😦

If I did a search for Ravell.com, I wonder if it would actually bring up a website? 😉

[upbeat dew]

probably

[craggy mirage]

Oh wow, lol, a site does exist using your name.

[upbeat dew]

the magic of the internet

[craggy mirage]

Brb

[next knot]

just brought thermaltake gf1 850w psu for 80usd plus tax. 1 part down and like 7 other pieces left

[timid basin]

My condolences

[knotty mesa]

😄

[craggy mirage]

Makes me wonder if the manufacturer is related to those Time Bomb R4s. Same city.

Opened an old one, to see if I could repair it a few years back, and couldn't even get to the PCB as it had like a half inch thick coating of black epoxy.

Not a good substance for heat dissipation.

[upbeat dew]

that black goo isn't for heat dissipation but for insulation from dust

elements that need dissipation normally are screwed to heatsinks and the big fan moves the heat away

[timid basin]

all Gamemax units are made by the company that owns the trademark, Sohoo

I'm yet to see them make a unit that doesn't fall flat on its face in testing

[craggy mirage]

I was being sarcastic. Epoxy is used for a few things, vibration damage, and make it more difficult for competition to duplicate products. Military contractor I worked for used it for all projects they did for China. A good amount of companies from China would hire my company to design special chargers, then after several were completed, company would make excuse and back out, only to find out half a year later, thousands of units made over seas. The epoxy my company used, guaranteed any attempt of removing the epoxy, would break components and circuit board.

[craggy mirage]

I wouldn't be surprised if the company used a pirated cad design software to make their power supplies. Fact I hear they fail a lot, might be that very reason. A good amount of electronic design software has features built in to detect piracy, and instead of shutting down, they let it run but make minute changes that even the best of engineers won't see till it's too late and put into production.

[timid basin]

Mostly because... And I'm gonna say this in the kindest way possible

They fail to pass testing at Cybenetics, send reviewers different products than consumers get, same with testing agencies like 80+, lie about their method of regulation, overestimate the wattage capacity, get relabelled by vendors... And so on and so on

There's a reason I dragged them straight down the list I work on

Same with Aresgame and Nox

So hence, I already extremely distrust Sohoo as a whole

[craggy mirage]

Amazon refunded me half of what I paid for the 4 GameMax 1050w RGB supplies I purchased two years ago, after it was proven the seller was actually selling the 850w model, and swapping labels. I could see why they did it too. Back then there was very little markup on the 1050w, but the 850w could be purchased at $25, relabeled and sold for $125.

When I took electronic engineering, a friend of mine gave me a copy of his software our school used. My professor pulled me aside, and told me he knew I was using a copy, as the stats were far off on my homework I submitted, then gave me a form to buy the school version at $79, instead of the $499 price. Didn't even know there was a school software price list.

I can't for the life of me, remember when I started buying everything. I have a library of over 580 titles, all purchased. Game Maker, Auto Cad, almost every Microsoft product through old technet program. 80% I yet to try. I just buy them when they have sales and then use the ones I need when I get hired to work on projects. I'm just glad 420 are all digital. Can you imagine how much space 580 titles would take up if I owned a box for every title? Would fill my garage up lol.

I also have lifetime office 365. Never expires though I do have to pay for it's upgrades.

Frontpage, the one good title Microsoft never updated. Wish I could find a similar program that gets updated for today's websites.

Frontpage allows one to design a webpage and has tabs for HTML and PHP, so you can add your own code, which is good since the title is so outdated, you have to put your own code in to stay current with today's websites.

Brb, gonna check to see.

[surreal magnet]

pog

[wind eagle]

So I have an old build and I noticed on the PSU the fan plug has what looks to be a 4 pin connector for the motherboard? I just wanna verify what it is so I don't blow up my motherboard

[blissful thistle]

Molex

I believe

[mild roost]

It looks like molex

[wind eagle]

What about the smaller connection

Above the molex

Is it for plugging into the motherboard? Because it can fit in the fan connection on the motherboard

It's the very last connection on the molex connecter line thing idk what to call it

Idk what this is

[sand atlas]

It's for floppy drives

[wind eagle]

Thank you

[timid basin]

Floppy drive connector, only really there for legacy use

Many PSUs don't even include them anymore today, because it's literally the only thing they're useful for, while peripheral is at least still used for things like pumps beyond its legacy use

Though Intel officially considers both legacy

[upbeat dew]

funny tho, some cases still bring old molex fans

[sand atlas]

I've definitely seen some other devices, mostly older ones, that use the floppy power. They're super rare and usually only use it as a optional power with a better alternative.

And in the event you did need that connector for some strange reason adapters exist for pennies

[serene siren]

Molex to floppy brrrrr

My psu has one

If ever I wanted to fit a floppy read to my o11 evo I'm set

[sand atlas]

If I ever wanted a floppy reader I'd get a USB one

[serene siren]

But don't you want the genuine floppy experience?

[sand atlas]

Yes the complete experience was so much fuuunnnn, right down to the PC refusing to POST without it

[serene siren]

Nothing like fueling that enthusiasm with some rivets and a floppy tray

Doom 1 in total 16 bit colour

Or is it 8 bit

Maybe I'm ahead of myself

[sand atlas]

It's 8 bit

256 color baby

Top of the line

[serene siren]

Turn that bad boy on

Floppy whirrs up

BRRRRRRRR

Aww yeah

It's scratched

https://tenor.com/view/triggered-arghh-mad-angry-rage-gif-26384361

The genuine experience baby

Nothing beats it

[orchid ether]

if my computer is asleep while im away and the power goes out, does my ups drain until dead?

[urban tulip]

If the power doesn't come back on, yeah

Will def take some time tho as not a ton of power is used when asleep, kinda depends what's still on (like lights and crap) and how big the ups is

[timid basin]

Depends on the type of UPS

There are models you can connect in a way that it'll shut down the PC

[past harbor]

If we do 100w, 1500va model gets maybe 2hrs runtime. 20w load might be up to 10hrs runtime. W/ most ups we're paying mainly for the tech. batteries aren't large & replacenents around 25% of what a ups would cost. I want to hook a car battery up to one, lol.

[timid basin]

There are ones that allow that iirc

[past harbor]

I would get another Walmart battery. Agm or not, they're $50ish cheaper than my local stores. Paid $120+tax for 750cca group 65.

[urban tulip]

My trucks battery is a Walmart one and gonna have to replace it after only 2 years lol

[past harbor]

Got 6 yrs out of my old Duralast Gold (autozone). Temperature dropped around 20 degrees & killed it a few weeks ago. I bought a noco 5A charger just in case & redid the cable ends w/ crimped on lugs.

[remote cipher]

Can someone help me rq

I got this case but idk how to open it

And the Newegg website won’t let me submit a question

It’s the Phantek eclipse G360A PH-EC360ATG_DBK02 Black Steel / Tempered glass atx mid tower case

Nvm I’m stupid

[upbeat dew]

no youre not, just take your time pal

if you hurry things mistakes can happen

[tired spindle]

Is this a decent PSU for £90?

Corsair CX750F RGB, 80 PLUS Bronze Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (80 PLUS Bronze Certified, 120 mm RGB Fan, Optimised for Low Noise, 105°C Japanese Capacitors, Compact 140 mm Long Casing) Black
https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/CORSAIR-iCUE/Power-Supplies/iCUE-CXF-RGB-Power-Supplies/p/CP-9020218-UK
https://amzn.eu/d/7ElB5v6

[blissful thistle]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/J6gFf7/corsair-txm-2021-750-w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020230-eu

this for a lil more https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/vfBrxr/corsair-txm-gold-850w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020130-na

[tired spindle]

Can't use the 850

[blissful thistle]

why?

[tired spindle]

I need 140mm

[blissful thistle]

ah

[tired spindle]

Specific enclosure

[blissful thistle]

then the 750

[fierce pivot]

I mean it's not needed at all honestly a 550w is overkill for a 3070 level card since it's just powering the gpu

[blissful thistle]

unless you're running a 3080 off of it

[fierce pivot]

THAT'S THE BOMB

[blissful thistle]

oh

i thought that was the one where it was fixed

mb

[fierce pivot]

I'm deleting that for their safety

Ehhh

I wouldn't trust it lol

[blissful thistle]

fair enough

[fierce pivot]

@tired spindle you really shouldn't have to swap psu but if you want to check if this fits
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Dn8bt6/asus-tuf-gaming-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-tuf-gaming-650b

[tired spindle]

750 won't work

IEC socket is in the wrong place

Time to go back to the drawing board

The enclosure literally only has a slot for the IEC socket on the PSU. Nothing else will fit, so I'd need a PSU with no extra switches.

[tired spindle]

Why does every damn PSU have a power switch now?

[blissful thistle]

they're supposed to

[fierce pivot]

That's a normal thing for them to have

Also you just don't need to upgrade the psu, problem solved

[tired spindle]

Well the very back plate is plastic, but there might be another one inside made of metal the same shape with only a space for the IEC socket.

I guess I'm just more limited in what cards will work in it.

[sand atlas]

If it was the P1000GM then that one never had the explosive problem because it came out after the "fix" but if it was the 750 or 850 no way in hell am I trusting it to be fixed

[timid basin]

I'll just mention you a few 140mm, then you can have a look yourself what fits for you

• Adata/XPG Core reactor
• Bitfenix Formula
• Corsair RMe/TX-M
• EVGA G6/P6/G7
• Superflower Leadex V

leaving out SFX(-L) here, just ATX stuff at 140mm or 130mm

CX-F is also decent, but all of the above are more efficient than it

with RMe actually being the direct replacement of it with similar parts, but upgraded to meet gold

[bleak holly]

What PSU do you guys recommend? Buying a 13900K+4090.

For PSU lenge limit it's 200mm, I am using the Fractal Torrent case.

[bleak holly]

Currently looking at the MSI Meg AI1300P.

[blissful thistle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YfK7YJ/super-flower-power-supply-sf1300f14mg i believe this is one of the A tier ones

[bleak holly]

Is it 3.0 or 2.0?

[blissful thistle]

2.0

for pcie 3.0 I'd look at reviews on this noe https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pXjBD3/thermaltake-toughpower-gf3-tt-premium-1350-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-1350fnfagu-4

[bleak holly]

Couldn't find the other one on Amazon.com.mx.

[blissful thistle]

one sec

[bleak holly]

Is 1,000 watts enough or do I need 1200+?

[blissful thistle]

1000w atx 3.0 should be fine

if atx 2.0 I'd do 1200

[bleak holly]

Gotcha. Asking because I wanna try to keep the everything - the GPU within 2500 USD.

G0d that cut it close.

After switching the PSU it came in at 2,491 us.

[blissful thistle]

id wait for someone elses opinion

[bleak holly]

I picked out the TT GF 3 1000w.

[bleak holly]

?

[blissful thistle]

on psu

I'm not 100% sure on if the model is good or not

so I'd wait for a second opinion

[bleak holly]

Ahh ok. I will leave the PSU for now as a place holder.

I won't be ordering till 3-4 weeks from now.

[blissful thistle]

ah ok

[bleak holly]

Just wanted to make sure I know exactly what I am getting ahead of time.

My current bucket list is:

• MSI Z690 Carbon WiFi Mobo
• I9-13900K
• G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 6400c32
• Corsair H170I Elite (only 420mm that fits Fractal Torrent)
• Nnoctua NT-H2
• 7 Arctic P14 PWM A-RGB
• and the PSU I just mentioned.

How does the rig look?

[blissful thistle]

a 360mm arctic lf2 would likely be better than that corsair 420mm

only thing that blatantly sticks out

also depends on mobo price

[bleak holly]

Mobo price, after shipping and import fee is $500.

Same goes for most other ones.

I am in MX rn so everything nearly doubles in cost.

[blissful thistle]

I'd check what an msi z690a pro would cost

[bleak holly]

Around 340 USD.

Looks horrendous though.

[blissful thistle]

how so?

[fierce pivot]

Check non msi boards options maybe?

[bleak holly]

Not a fan of the design with the exposed look.

[bleak holly]

All comes out around 450-600 for same amount of features.

[fierce pivot]

Gross prices nonetheless

[bleak holly]

Open to other suggestions if you guys have some. Preferably something with at least 4 M.2 slots, DDR5, good sound, and without much of the board exposed kinda like the Carbon WiFi/Aorus Master for reference.

[bleak holly]

Agreed.

[fierce pivot]

Where are you buying from ?

[bleak holly]

My Fractal Case, after shipping and import fees came out to around 550 USD.

[fierce pivot]

Oof why

Would you pay that

Isn't there Amazon Mexico you can use or something?

[bleak holly]

It was still cheaper then buying directly from Amazon MX by like 50 us.

It was originally like 300+80 in shipping or something like that then on delivery they wanted about 100 us for import fees.

[fierce pivot]

Right but maybe not for motherboard (would have just went different case but oh well)

[bleak holly]

I already have the case now so no going back lmao.

But yeah, Mobo prices are disgusting in MX.

Same with really any new tech.

The local PC stores still sell 3rd gen stuff lmao.

[fierce pivot]

From first look this looks okay priced
https://www.amazon.com.mx/Gigabyte-Z690-Gaming-Gen2X2-Type-C/dp/B09WZKXNVP

[bleak holly]

Not bad. 300 USD.

What would I sacrifice going from the carbon WiFi to this?

No bios flash by the looks of it.

[fierce pivot]

It has bios flash it's just at the bottom of the board not on io

[bleak holly]

Ahh ok.

Not trying to be overly picky but are there some other options you'd recommend that looks closer to the carbon WiFi with it's slick metallic gun metal look?

[fierce pivot]

1 m.2 and wifi

[bleak holly]

Mhmm, WiFi is important.

So that's a no go.

[blissful thistle]

can get a pcie wifi card for like 30 usd

[fierce pivot]

Ah well i mean you can stick a wifi card in

[bleak holly]

Would I even have enough room after sticking the Aorus master 4090 in?

[fierce pivot]

Yes you can just stick in the bottom slot

This is the next closest I'd recommend i guess
https://www.amazon.com.mx/MSI-mag-Z690-Tomahawk-WiFi/dp/B09PX5WHMB

[bleak holly]

Gains and losses?

[fierce pivot]

Over carbon?

[bleak holly]

Also this looks much nicer then the last option.

[bleak holly]

Yea.

Sorry for being so picky.

I just really wanna make sure this PC looks good at the end of the day considering how much I am investing into it.

[fierce pivot]

1 less m.2 that's it, exact same vrms and everything

[bleak holly]

I see.

[fierce pivot]

Fair enough

[bleak holly]

Same OC capabilities I assume then?

[fierce pivot]

Yes

[bleak holly]

If so I think I will go with this one.

Looks nice and I can live with 1 less M.2.

Any other changes you guys would recommend?

Trying to keep everything minus the GPU within 2500 and preferably at about 2k USD.

[upbeat dew]

how you dare to mock the great msi pro-a boards?

[bleak holly]

My current bucket list is:

• MSI Mag Z690 Tomahawk
• I9-13900K
• G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 6400c32
• Corsair H170I Elite (only 420mm that fits Fractal Torrent)
• Nnoctua NT-H2
• 7 Arctic P14 PWM A-RGB
• TT GF 3 1000w psu

[upbeat dew]

c*rsair ewwww

go lf420 instead man

[bleak holly]

Won't fit.

[upbeat dew]

c*rsair is pretty mediocre for the price

[bleak holly]

Not without sawing the bottom fans slots.

It's been confirmed on Fractal Torrent's site that the LF 2 won't fit and by Felix or maybe it was Pato.

[upbeat dew]

i should take a 1200w psu anyway as well

if you go unrestricted power on the cpu, then it will reach 350+

the 420 should suffice to cool that beast

[bleak holly]

Hmmm I see.

Any issues with the GF 3 PSUs from TT?

[upbeat dew]

have you checked them on the cultist list?

[bleak holly]

They haven't added it yet, probably because it's 3.0.

[elfin trout]

It's fine
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermaltake-toughpower-gf3-850w-atx-v30-power-supply-review

[bleak holly]

Gotcha.

So just switch from 1000w to the 1200w and I should be good to go?

[upbeat dew]

oh, its an atx3

nah, ill just take the 1000w

[bleak holly]

Phew, that saves me 100bucks.

[upbeat dew]

i thought it was an ol psu

those atx3 are pretty smart

[bleak holly]

So 1000w will do fine?

[upbeat dew]

y

[bleak holly]

Y?

Does that mean yes?

[upbeat dew]

yes

[bleak holly]

Great.

So all's good with the list?

[upbeat dew]

my things arrive next week 😄 they are already on the plane

[blissful thistle]

pog

[bleak holly]

Lucky you....

[upbeat dew]

now i need to snatch either an xtx or a 3080

[bleak holly]

Well anyways all goes well I should be able to afford all this stuff in a couple weeks.

[upbeat dew]

more like next month

holidays are pretty wild

best not to risk your packages

[bleak holly]

My system is gonna feel weird with me reusing my 3070 until I get enough saved for the 4090 lmao.

[bleak holly]

?

Question.

Would it be a bad idea to use 10 fans in my system?

I am getting 7 Arctic P14s and I was just thinking that maybe I could also reuse the Corsair fans for a push/pull.

[blissful thistle]

might be a waste, as past a certain point you won't really have any temp improvements

[upbeat dew]

you can use 100 if you want, as long as the airflow is properly handled

[blissful thistle]

but not exactly bad aslong as you set them properly

[upbeat dew]

because more fans doesn't equal better cooling

you need a balance between income and outcome for a proper airflow, no matter 6, 50 or 100 fans

[upbeat dew]

this is also true

[bleak holly]

I was thinking of putting the P14s on the visible side viewing side of the Fractal Torrent and leaving the Corsair fans in it's current position for their RGB to be seen through the front panel.

[upbeat dew]

you cant go below room temperature anyway

[bleak holly]

My room temp is always around 16-18c.

60 degrees Fahrenheit if you don't use Celsius.

[upbeat dew]

as long as you follow this airflow

[bleak holly]

You want input/output with fans.

I don't think a top exhaust will work in the Fractal Torrent.

[upbeat dew]

true

[bleak holly]

Fractal Torrent is basically a pure positive pressure case correct?

[bleak holly]

Why does this look so much like my Matrexx 50 Deepcool.

[upbeat dew]

looks like a generic atx case

alsmot all atx cases are pretty similar

its also a bequiet case

not a deepcool

[bleak holly]

Oh lmao, just noticed that.

Ravell, you able to recommend me some ram?

[upbeat dew]

not my area of expertise, im sorry 😦

plus im more in the budget side of things... you are clearly looking for something flashy and expensive even at the cost of performance from what i read so far

[blissful thistle]

this seems alright https://www.amazon.com.mx/G-Skill-PC5-48000-CL36-36-36-96-escritorio-F5-6000J3636F16GA2-TZ5RK/dp/B09PTGZM6Y/ref=sr_1_4?

[upbeat dew]

hub always benchamrk 13th gen with some 6400c32, you can look for those as well

[bleak holly]

It performs close to the one I posted in #cpus-mobo-and-memory?

How do I check for latency on ram I forgot.

[upbeat dew]

on ddr5 latency is not an issue

the higher the megatransfers the less noticeable the timings are

[bleak holly]

Ahh I see.

The sticks I currently have selected are G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 6400mt/s cas 32, 39, 102

I am fine with downgrading the ram if it saves enough while not losing to much performance.

[upbeat dew]

there is a slight chance of instability between mobo/cpu and ram speed, the higher the speed higher the chance to run into issues

you should be fine on 6000c36 as bacca suggested

better to be on the safe side

[bleak holly]

Even if running at the rated speeds of the Mobo?

[upbeat dew]

its more about the binnin on the cpu

some can handle it, some cannot... silicon lottery

[bleak holly]

My good ol friend, silicon lottery.

Hopefully I get lucky with it this time around as well.

But yea I guess I will switch the ram to what bacca suggested then.

[upbeat dew]

6000c36 is pretty fast anyway and the cache on the 13900k is pretty large to counter any timing

[bleak holly]

Mhmm, should I get the silver ones and save a extra 15 bucks or nah.

[upbeat dew]

thats on you

[bleak holly]

Do you think the silver ones would stick out to much on a all black board and a gray fractal torrent case?

[upbeat dew]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

look for images on google

[bleak holly]

Ehh I might as well not risk it. Back in black it is.

[upbeat dew]

some may like the checkerboard style, some one color only style....

you can always put stickers on the parts anyway

to personalize your stuff

[bleak holly]

..... Maybe when I give this to my brother in a few years.

I usually put crystals, and gemstones in my PC case instead.

My current PC has some quartz, amethyst, emeralds, etc in it.

[upbeat dew]

sell some of those and buy the 4090 instead xD

[bleak holly]

No ty.

They are my lucky charms.

Well anyways, I've brought the total cost minus storage and GPU down to 2,200.

[upbeat dew]

for now

tech is an always changing environment

next week prices could be different

[bleak holly]

Hopefully better.

Or I may need to sell my kidney lmao.

Just joking.

[upbeat dew]

hope you can build your pc soon, you have that project on the oven for almost a year by now

[bleak holly]

Yeah, some unexpected costs came up.

[upbeat dew]

almost as much as mine

[bleak holly]

Family member got sick.

But yeah, all goes well I will have the parts ordered by the 18th of December in time for Hanukkah.

[zealous cairn]

Is $750 a good deal for a second-hand 3080Ti?

Not sure anymore given the new cards coming out

[blissful thistle]

not really

[fierce pivot]

you can get a 3080 12gb new for around that price and its very close in performance

[urban tulip]

sadge its not that way anymore here in usa

cheapest one is a ventus at $1200

so 6900xt/6950xt is def the meta currently for a really good gpu

[fierce pivot]

Oh wrf they really drying out stock

Also light mode ahhh

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[lunar root]

Why are you so weak

[urban tulip]

you said what?

enjoy light mode L

[fierce pivot]

Banning

[urban tulip]

when i get mod next week imma make a new role that just makes your name white and then give it to you

[fierce pivot]

You're sick

[urban tulip]

no im RyanB

[lunar root]

[lofty pewter]

Nah that is the bad way. The better way is changing the role colors so that they are barely visible on dark mode and well visible on light mode.

[urban tulip]

True true

Kinda SUS you seem to have experience with this?

[lunar root]

[lofty pewter]

Excellent question. I will not answer it however.

[sand atlas]

Changing a name with /setnick and using a font to change color works to mess with someone too

[digital ledge]

Anyone know why my case fans are just going full tilt all the time? Just using the case fans that come with the fractal torrent and they're hooked up to a strix z690-e

In armory crate only my cpu and gpu rpms show up. All the case fans show as 0 rpm but they're definitely on and loud. Sorry if there was a better chat to ask this in

[elfin trout]

Check if you have them set on dc mode or pwm mode

[digital ledge]

In bios?

[sand atlas]

I'm going to guess that you have a 3 pin fan on 4 pin header and the motherboard auto sets to PWM (4 pin) mode

Yes you'd set that in bios

[digital ledge]

Alright I'll check that thanks guys

[bleak holly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxhn_HF77aA

[upbeat dew]

ew

way way too big

[sand atlas]

Yeah that's a statement case for sure

[timid basin]

https://seasonic.com/vertex-px
https://seasonic.com/vertex-gx

I'm actually gonna give Seasonic full props for one simple thing I've asked for so many times

individual PCIe cables instead of daisychain

just one small change would've been nice

750w only includes two, would've been nice to have 3

[fierce pivot]

That's nice yeah, same thing with my revolution df 750 as well actually it only came with 2 pcie cables

[upbeat dew]

my 850g6 came with 4

4090 ready

now i just need the card

[bleak holly]

It's magnificent!

[lunar ridge]

Anyone struggling in the infinite ETA circle of meg ai1300p ?

12/03: ETA 12/05
12/05: ETA 12/07
12/07: ETA 12/09

[sand atlas]

What do you need a 1300W for?

[lunar ridge]

Bc/ that's one of the best of psu right now?

[sand atlas]

Apparently you like spending money for the sake of spending money then

That's fine and all but there will be issues like this

[lunar ridge]

I just confused why so many people buying this particular unit.

[sand atlas]

They probably only have a limited amount released at any one time and demand is higher than supply

[lunar root]

plz stop taking about me behind my back

[serene siren]

It's actually had problems

I would steer clear

If you want best of the best, AX1600i

[lunar ridge]

Is it atx3.0?

[serene siren]

Atx 3.0 is a meme

The corsair adapter is better than 3.0 native

The cultists go absolutely nuts for that psu, it's a phenomenal unit

[fierce pivot]

But tbh just get a 1000w RM/RMX/RME

[timid basin]

it is, though I don't know who certified it

because I can't find much on both Cyben and Intel

which are the only two I know of that have the equipment to test for the excursions

[timid basin]

I mean... can you blame me?

[timid basin]

in general, 12VHPWR has been in high demand to the point that multiple companies have been unable to keep up

[serene siren]

I can't, I agree, it's great lol

[timid basin]

like... Xinte and especially Ampenol aren't exactly small

but they're seemingly unable to keep up

[serene siren]

Might be tooling?

[timid basin]

retool was back in February, so I doubt it

[serene siren]

Hmm, no clue then tbh

Maybe they under-anticipated

[timid basin]

but there are still other options out there if you want a high wattage ATX 3.0 unit

GF3, Prime PX1300/1600/TX1300/1600, HXi, Hela 1200R

but for a 4090, something like an RMe/RMx, A-G, Cybercore or HX with the Corsair cable or Pure power 11 FM with the BeQuiet cable will do fine too

enough options out there, just not a whole lot of stock

[serene siren]

I've been alright so far with an ST1650G and a cablemod adapter

[timid basin]

ST?

[serene siren]

The cablemod is good, 3x8 almost entirely populated

Ye the decathlon

[timid basin]

ah, DA1650

[serene siren]

Oh my b

[timid basin]

or SST-DA1650-G, if you want to go down that route

but makes sense

even if the 3x connector is kinda stupid

but that aside

[lunar ridge]

I have checked ax1600i

It just.....a little bit overpriced...

$600 for a PSU

Just call me atx3.0 addicted, are there any same tier replacement of meg ai1300p right now? In stock.

[timid basin]

it's not overpriced, just priced high

and I already mentioned a decent amount of options above

then again, at this kind of wattage you shouldn't really care about ATX 3.0 anyways

[lunar ridge]

Ok fine, I'll take your suggestion.

[timid basin]

I'm surprised Ai-P is a CTT though

I was 99% sure it was CST until Aris showed me otherwise

[lunar ridge]

Oh Hela 1200R, I bought this this Thanksgiving but it turned out to be not atx 3.0

Let me find out that discussion

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/y43cyp/comprehensive_atx_30_psu_list/iz4fe9j?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3

It failed the atx3.0 test transient response.

[timid basin]

by all means, it's ATX 3.0

where did it?

[lunar ridge]

Cybernetics

You can check the reddit link I provided

[timid basin]

looking at the public report I don't see ATX 3.0 mentioned

so that would just mean they didn't test for it

[serene siren]

Wasn't the hela series specifically for atx 3.0?

[timid basin]

though... it's new enough to be with testing protocol for it

I'll ask Aris and Silverstone later

[lunar ridge]

Also in the same reddit linke, cybernetics said they had tested but haven't updated with the public report yet.

[timid basin]

Also, they probably mean power excursions instead of transient response

But that aside

I'll send Aris something

[lunar root]

very cheap i might add

[serene siren]

If ever there was a part I could put the label "future-proof" on, it would probably be that one

[fierce pivot]

COOLER MASTER SHOE CASE

[fierce pivot]

Well yes but by the time 1600w makes sense (it it ever does) it'll be way cheaper to buy an 850w/1000w now and a 1600w later on

[serene siren]

Ofc

It's definitely in the relative sense when I say it

[lunar root]

Is there any 1200W 3.0 ATX

[serene siren]

For the thousandth time, you don't need 3.0

3.0 is a meme

Kenzie you don't even need 1200W

1000W would be comfortable enough

Lol

[lunar root]

Yea but doesn't 3.0 mean less cables

Bc look its just 16 pin to 16 pin

[serene siren]

Ooof

[lunar root]

Bruh I don't like the look of the adapter just handing out of pc with 4 8 pins connected lol so many cables

[fierce pivot]

That price hurts, grab a 1000w RMe and a 20$ atx 3.0 connector

[serene siren]

Yeah I was just about to link RMe

A1000G also exists same price

[lunar root]

Okay whats power usage for 13600k and 4090

[serene siren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KnYmP6/corsair-rm1000e-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020250-na
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bRXJ7P/msi-mpg-a1000g-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a1000g

[serene siren]

Well under 1000W

You could do it on a good 850W

[lunar root]

Oh tomie told me to get 1200W

[serene siren]

1200W is for like, 13900K direct die and 4090 gaming OC/volt mod

[lunar root]

4090 needs 4x8 pins so unless I daisy chain not happening

[serene siren]

Ok but you still don't need 1200

[lunar root]

Well okay ik now

[serene siren]

There's also RM1000x for $10 more

I'm aware RMx was in that video today Kenzie but I've abused the hell out of an RMx and it's been fine

[lunar root]

I'm not necessarily concerned

Asus asus asus

Jk

[serene siren]

No

[fierce pivot]

Lol what a scam

[serene siren]

Gross

Literally double the price and worse than RMx

[lunar root]

What about 2 hard drives and 2 ssds

[serene siren]

What about them

Still not 1200 worthy

[lunar root]

Well they use power too

[serene siren]

^

[lunar root]

Yea

[lunar root]

Is there 3.0 one

[serene siren]

What about this one Kenzie
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QnBG3C/be-quiet-pure-power-11-fm-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn676

[lunar root]

btw what are these is this a new drive connector

[lunar root]

also this one will work

@serene siren i dont need some expenzive power supply i just wanmted a 1000W atx 3.0

[serene siren]

ATX 3.0 native and cheap don't go together

[lunar root]

I mean this power supply kinda is

[serene siren]

Also it's literally a worse time going 3.0

[lunar root]

I think I bought my 850W at $100

[serene siren]

The best connector is the Corsair adapter with a corsair psu

[lunar root]

Hm

How is the dark one

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CQNgXL/enermax-revolution-df-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf850ewt

this rn 107

[lunar root]

whys that]

[fierce pivot]

connector on the psu side are propiertary

[lunar root]

What's that mean

Wait

I mean

Like hard drive plugged into sata which was sata plug which is 6 pin

But these plugs are straight not

Oh there same

There just not square anymore

[fierce pivot]

The connectors on the psu side are different depending on the psu they're not universal

[lunar root]

Oh

[lunar root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1021870819464466553/1050768337048715334/gpu_z_screen2.gif?width=1016&height=905 @serene siren 4090 go brrr this is MSI liquid X 520W brrrrrrrrrrr

[lunar root]

@serene siren nevermind I did a bit of thinking at work I'll just go regular power supply

Also I'm gunna get 7900xt rn bc it's gunna be I'm stock

[lunar root]

AY RGB

https://tenor.com/view/gato-rgb-gif-22003887

WTH is this

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vwLFf7/super-flower-leadex-v-platinum-pro-1000-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-1000f14tp

@fierce pivot I was looking at 1000W PSU he sent me and some come with 5 pcie + cpu pins but it seems most power supplys are just 2x8 pin cpu and 3x8pin gpu cables where do you find power supply with 4x8 pins 🤔

[hollow leaf]

Something like this?

[fierce pivot]

You dont need 4 pcie

3 pcie gives 450w and slot gives 75w

[serene siren]

The corsair adapter uses 2 natively and it's better than the nvidia one that asks for 4 lmao

[marble girder]

Well tbf Nvidia's adapter assumes max of 150 watts per 8 pin, the PCIE minimum spec

[lunar root]

Wym 3 gives 450w its 4x8 each 8 pin is 150W

If your pulling more power then the 8 pin is rated for won't it burn or something

[fierce pivot]

3x150 = 450

And slot gives 75

So it'll be pretty hard to pull 525w from a 4090

[fierce pivot]

And connectors like this don't follow the 150 per pcie rule because it's coming straight from the psu

[lunar root]

That's right 4x8 is 600

[fierce pivot]

But no card uses 600w

[lunar root]

Vbios

I paid 100% for the cable I'm gunna use the cables 100% potential

Jk

Haha

But yea I think like the msi Supreme liquid X is 520W max

[serene siren]

Depends on the version

[lunar root]

Ye

[serene siren]

Some ship with 600W but it doesn't need it

The 520W limit is fine

[lunar root]

I mean it has the heatsink for it brrrrrrr

[serene siren]

Sure but it doesn't want to use that much

Not unless you try a literal power virus

[lunar root]

So that rule/policy is only in affect if you plug 8 pin into a gpu

[lunar root]

[fierce pivot]

Yes because it's the cable that's rated for that not the psu port

[lunar root]

Interesting

[fierce pivot]

4090 is quite efficient compared to 3090 too

[serene siren]

Why am I getting severe deja vu rn

I swear we've had this exact discussion before