cases-psu-and-cooling

[craggy mirage]

No snoopy dance. Not till I actually get my EVGA 1600w platinum PSU in my hands this time. 5 minutes away, was watching the UPS truck on map, when my order changed to not shipped, label printed, then was told it didn't go out today either, to it's on the way only a few moments ago. I'm not counting my chickens till I physically have the box In my hands lol

The next best thing was getting emails from Affirm, they processed my refunds. Those were orders canceled and placed again, due to not wanting to risk getting same bad items that had meh type reviews. That too I'm not counting until I see deposits, because their system shows them using my initial payments they took, to pay interest. Had I not delt with them before, and know they usually fix that, id be raging now.

Tomorrow, my build, I hope.

[minor portal]

Rexed#3866 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rapid jacinth]

This store

Wants me to a 1000w psu, for a 6700xt and a 12400f

I would like there crack

[blissful thistle]

lmfao

[fierce pivot]

Probably something crap too

[serene siren]

1000W W1

💥

[craggy mirage]

EVGA is here!!!!!!

[fierce pivot]

Looks like you're celebrating a 1000w w1

[bleak holly]

Any updates on ATX 3.0 PSUs?

[sand atlas]

Besides the first one being spotted for sale in the wild and the melting cables if you bend too much? Nope nothing new

[hollow leaf]

Is there any way I can somehow lock my pc case to my tower stand?

[fierce pivot]

The gigabyte udgm? Or is that a different one you're talking about

[fierce pivot]

Wdym tower stand?

[hollow leaf]

My custom tower stand remember?

[fierce pivot]

Um nope

Idk what you mean by that ngl

[fierce pivot]

Oh i had no idea

[hollow leaf]

What??

[fierce pivot]

Umm you want it like basically attached to it

[hollow leaf]

Yeah

Like a nice strong chain or something. Idk lol

[fierce pivot]

Only way i could think is glue or like locking right over the case and under the wood

Although idk how that would go aesthetically

[hollow leaf]

I was thinking of maybe I could somehow attach a metal plate to the very bottom that has a rung on it so I can attach a chain that I can bolt to the stand. The stand is heavy and the pc is heavy and with both combined, it would require a VERY strong person or 2 people to awkwardly get it out of my house.

I have had 2 new neighbors move in to the complex near me and they seem very shady and one has been eyeballing my electric bike, so I feel like they might try to get into my place while I'm at work.

[fierce pivot]

Ahh i see

[sand atlas]

Nah this Hela new one https://www.techpowerup.com/298665/silverstone-hela-850r-platinum-atx-3-0-pcie-gen-5-psu-goes-on-sale

[hollow leaf]

Thats a Hela nice lookin psu xD

[fierce pivot]

Ahh okay, i was boutta be very sad cus it's udgm is 3.0 and has been like 70$ for the 750w version and it's b tier

[sand atlas]

No that one cheated anyway and just used an adapter

[fierce pivot]

Oh right so it can't control dynamically like the others or whatever

[sand atlas]

It's basically the same as using a 3x8 pin adapter but without the extra cable. The sense pins aren't connected so it maxes at 450W.

[timid basin]

UD-GM isn't ATX 3.0

it has a 12VHPWR connector, but can't handle power excursions

[fierce pivot]

Right yeah

[timid basin]

Gigabyte also only advertises PCIe 5.0, so yeah

also, fun fact

Hela is a curry brand here

[serene siren]

Curry?

[fierce pivot]

Yumm

[timid basin]

Curry

[fierce pivot]

Ketchup curry??

[timid basin]

Indeed

it's complicated to explain

Curry ketchup, also called Currygewürzketchup in Germany, is a spiced variant of ketchup and a common sauce in Belgium, Germany, Denmark and the Netherlands. It is typically served on prepared meats such as frikandel, or on French fries.

[fierce pivot]

Hmmmm interesting

[serene siren]

Neat

I dig it

[exotic perch]

What "tier" is a evga 1300 G+ considered

[past harbor]

There's literally a tier list in the pins.

[exotic perch]

Ty

[fierce pivot]

Cntrl f and type in g+

[craggy mirage]

Check this out on @Newegg: Thermaltake View 71 RGB 4-Sided Tempered Glass Vertical GPU Modular E-ATX Gaming Full Tower Computer Case with 3 RGB LED Riing Fan Pre-installed CA-1I7-00F1WN-01 https://www.newegg.com/black-thermaltake-view-71-tempered-glass-rgb-edition-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811133359?Item=N82E16811133359&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-11-133-359-_-09232022

Can someone by any chance help me solve a almost 3 year mystery with this case? This is the 6th one I have assembled, and every single one as I removed it from its shipping carton, will drop this pencil tip size washer, that I have no clue where it came from and Thermal take has no clue with their own case what it is. I only know that out of all 6 cases, they just roll right out at unboxing, and just not knowing is ticking me off lol.

[craggy mirage]

Nm, packaging for audio jacks

[fierce pivot]

That looks like an oven

[serene siren]

H510:
TT: Hold my beer

[mild roost]

TT View series is almost always filled with hot box of cases

[upbeat dew]

box of hot wings?

yummy

[mild roost]

lol

[carmine oyster]

Phanteks (PH-EC360ATG_DBK02) Eclipse G360A Ultra-fine Performance Mesh, Mid-Tower Gaming case, Tempered Glass, Digital-RGB Lighting, Black https://a.co/d/3t7Yo0x

Should i cop

[fierce pivot]

Nice case 100$ is the normal price tho

[carmine oyster]

Yea i couldn't find any actual sold by phantek

Unless im just stupid lol

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pqzhP6/phanteks-eclipse-g360a-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec360atg_dbk02

100 or 90 after rebate on wegg

[carmine oyster]

Oh ok cool

[fierce pivot]

Other nice options around that price is the 5000x white for 125 and get the 5000d airflow panel from corsair for free

And deepcool ck560

[carmine oyster]

Thx for the help

[fierce pivot]

Np

[carmine oyster]

Relized how terrible amazon is for cases

[sudden zenith]

Hey guys looking for the smallest, reasonably priced, ATX Mobo, PSU, and GPU compatible Case any tips appreciated (just looking to downsize my rig)

[blissful thistle]

budget?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7fn8TW/cougar-mx330-g-air-atx-mid-tower-case-mx330-g-air this is the first thing that comes to mind

[sudden zenith]

That's about right for price, just dont want to pay like $200 plus as some are

Dones't seem to be considerably smaller than a normal mid tower though :/

So far, the best lead I have is the Riotoro https://s3.amazonaws.com/riotoro-live/documents/87508114-70ca-4e45-bc18-fc7f6d4420c5.png

[blissful thistle]

So you want as small as possible atx, or matx?

This is a bit on the small side https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YCH8TW/lian-li-lancool-215-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-215-black

[sudden zenith]

ATX, as my PSU and MOBO are full size :/ @blissful thistle

I like that Lian Li!

[serene siren]

215 mesh is really nice

[craggy mirage]

I actually got similar Phantek case for my son, except the version has 3 front drive bays for Blu Ray writer. Amazon is fully refunding me for the Thermaltake case. They offered to do it last night and I said wait, let me see if Thermaltake can get me the part. They instead sent me a form that requires me to send the case in, wait 30 days. They shipped me the case with all the standoffs stripped, which that was an easy fix, have thousands of em lol. Then find out, one of the two 3.5 cages was missing. I already seated the cooler, not tearing that off and be stuck having to buy a replacement. That part was most likely $10, was offered a full refund but chose to check with Thermaltake to see if they would send it. I'm definitely going with the refund option. For the high price, the quality of most cases I have gotten of theirs is just horrid. I like the cases non the less, and all issues usually fixable. The only exception I refused to touch was when the carrier delivering a case five years ago, got caught urinating inside the shipping case by both my security camera, and my neighbors.

[craggy mirage]

I swear, the most simple comment changes to a wall of text with me. Had my English teacher from elementary school been alive, he'd think I was an imposter. I used to complain writing 8 lines of text off the chalkboard was too much lol.

[hollow leaf]

Writing is way different than typing though. I absolutely hate writing, but I love typing.

[upbeat dew]

cant understand what da hell you just said, but im ok 🙂 im with you pal

https://frinkiac.com/video/S11E01/5dwyWs8W8pXrGXGqPuG6ro-pgT4=.gif

[craggy mirage]

Lol

[stray trench]

Im tryin to install sata ssd into my case but it doesnt seem to have a slot for it except this lil guy

Any way to install it with this thing?

[upbeat dew]

case?

that plate is held by just that thumbscrew on the case

you took that plate., screw the 4 corners of the ssd on that plate and then thumbscrew back the plate into the case

[round pike]

@timid basin fix your site lol

[blissful thistle]

It's working for me

[round pike]

No way

Yup, it appears to be blacklisted here

[elfin trout]

lmao

your IT guy block it because it has cultist in the name?

also, @timid basin while you're at it, any reason we can't give G7 Tier A now that we have some reviews?

[timid basin]

Fix your blacklist

[timid basin]

Because I have a ton of other stuff getting pushed in my hands that make me unable to run numbers to add units

[elfin trout]

gotcha, nothing wrong with it that you've heard of then

[timid basin]

Nothing major, no

[elfin trout]

Good luck with your work then

[round pike]

No clue, towel.blinkenlights.nl is banned too

[elfin trout]

what the heck is that

[fierce pivot]

Towel tier list

Obviously

[elfin trout]

Lmao

[round pike]

ASCII star wars

[serene siren]

Egyptian cotton tier A always unless it's been sewed together terribly

Good absorption response

Nice texture to it

[serene siren]

https://youtu.be/EvsPZA8CkBY

Need to share this. A good video on the 12/16 pin panic and the associated adapters

[upbeat dew]

Blame jayz for sensasionalism as always

It was well documented from before that the issue wws the extreme bending only

Not anything related to overcharge

Even gamer jesus said that those news were sensasionalism only

[mild roost]

jayz is trash, end of story

but ah well, sensationalism gets the clicks

it plays with people's emotions

[wanton briar]

What's the Corsair RM1000e? Just saw it on slickdeals. Must be new? How is it different from the RM1000x?

[blissful thistle]

It stands for rm1000 egg

It's an rmx in the shape of an ostrich egg

[wanton briar]

Yahooo!!!

[mild roost]

lmao

tho tbf

i believe 4090 will run on good 850w

unrelated ik but i wanted to say it

[upbeat dew]

👀

[fierce pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[mild roost]

lol

[fierce pivot]

If you mean idle then sure kek

[mild roost]

i mean even with peaks

it probably can

if it can handle big spikes

nvidia even officially recc 850w

granted that's 4090 fe

idk about aibs

[lofty pewter]

450w GPU (with probably better transient control) + 150w CPU is probably pretty fair for even a 750w PSU tbf.

[mild roost]

^

[upbeat dew]

this is why im goin to pair a 4090 with a 4770k on my 850w.... it will handle transients ok 😄

[knotty mesa]

RM (e) for economy!

it’s HEC

[timid basin]

completely different design and OEM

modern RM and RMx are made by CWT based off a platform codenamed Marr and B.O.B.

these are similar to the older RM 2019 and RMx 2018 units, with RMx 2015 being based off a different CWT platform

RMe is based off a platform made by HEC, which can only really be compared to CX-F and Vengeance silver, but has upgrades to allow for the higher efficiency compared to the other two

it's cheaper for Corsair to produce compared to RM and RMx, while offering similar-ish performance in a more compact formfactor

[fierce pivot]

Sounds like it could be a decent choice depending on it's pricing then

[wanton briar]

Ahh, okay interesting.

Thanks

[sudden zenith]

Bump on smallest ATX PSU MOBO and GPU case please!

[sand atlas]

What are your specific needs? How powerful do the parts need to be? That'll affect the choices of parts a lot.

I've seen modern systems running AMD 6000 processors that only take 1 liter of space but if you need a GPU that changes things

[serene siren]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-clears-the-air-on-geforce-rtx-40-series-power-requirements

So no more 12/16 pin issues, supposedly

[upbeat dew]

still the people falls for that sensationalist story of burning connectors?

shame on them

they made a picture into a big scandal and the media was the first to made it into a fire hazard

this was also another thing that the media used as a weapon for clickbaits

[serene siren]

Yeah it did balloon quite a bit

[upbeat dew]

worried about 30 cycles? most connectors... even the molex ones have the same half-life

but i dont see people losing their heads on that one

sigh....

[serene siren]

I mean it's fair, I get the melting cables thing, it's a big deal, but I feel like the reaction to it was worse than the nzxt H1

[upbeat dew]

yeah but wasnt because overpower

[serene siren]

The H1 was ham-fisted a solution too

[upbeat dew]

was because over bending

[serene siren]

Johnny has said that 3x8 adapters for this is actually sufficient power with redundancy

[upbeat dew]

yet the media classified it as a fire hazard just to connect it

[serene siren]

So 4x8 is essentially double *headroom if you pick the a good enough psu/cables associated

[upbeat dew]

im going for the suprim ma man

ill have the octopus dongle :3

[serene siren]

Suprim?

[upbeat dew]

thats rite

[serene siren]

Me too tbh

Maybe a 16 pin custom

[serene siren]

Not changing psu now tho, I got a 1650W

[upbeat dew]

1700usd

im going to feed it with my g6

[serene siren]

Looks, slightly different

[upbeat dew]

so.... i trust nvidia

[serene siren]

I bet what's included in that GPU kit is nice too

[upbeat dew]

yeah, they include a mouse pad

like whoooooa dude

calm down

[serene siren]

Hold on

We got a badass over here

[upbeat dew]

yeah, i mean, can you believe it, like O M G

jokes aside, the watercooled version is 50 bucks more

but i trust no aio for my gpu

[serene siren]

Suprim only 100 over msrp??

Wtf

[upbeat dew]

yup

1700 and 1750

the x trio is msrp

but for a 100 more ill take the suprim any day of the week

and... the suprim mousepad ofc

+50 fps

[serene siren]

Still no waterforce pics

[upbeat dew]

i tell ya man

[serene siren]

Dude I can feel the edge of gaming at my fingertips

[upbeat dew]

and its white!

just what i need to finish my build

[serene siren]

Not silver?

[upbeat dew]

close enough at least

[serene siren]

Suprim last gen is silver

Kekw

Lamo

[upbeat dew]

yeah its the same silver, its almost the same aestethics

but this ma man

these ones are a joke

🤢

[sand atlas]

Strix and TUF tax

[serene siren]

Strokes

Strokes tax

[upbeat dew]

add the normal taxes, and you have a 2.2k gpu

[sand atlas]

Plus we know AIBs are barely making a profit close to msrp anyway, markups are bound to happen

[upbeat dew]

like? really?

[serene siren]

Cheapest always for best perf

Suprim seems like a good choice

I WAN WATERBLOCC

[upbeat dew]

already made my math, ill pay like 1880usd for the suprim

[serene siren]

[sand atlas]

@past harbor Yes really, between nvidia gouging them and the cost of engineering and materials their profit margin at msrp would be about 5-10%

[upbeat dew]

yeah effin 7% tax to florida

but ill have the meme pc for half a year

ill be the envy of the discord

4090 paired with an intel i7 4770

hell yeah

[serene siren]

• laughs in 30% gpu *

[upbeat dew]

[serene siren]

• at 4k *

[upbeat dew]

at least the psu will not trip

[serene siren]

Psu be trippin wondering what you doin with this combo

[upbeat dew]

yeah but the choice b.... cant do it

4080 16gb with a decent 13th gen... just cant

the difference is way too great

[past harbor]

4070 + 4770 has nice ring to it too. 🤣

[upbeat dew]

last time i was extremely bound with the 3060ti

cant imiagine the 4090

working on a pcie gen 2

well... back to work

[sudden zenith]

Hey thanks for the reply, have a zotac 2060 super (small one) and a stock amd wraith spire cooler, along with an ATX motherboard and psu

[sudden zenith]

looking to find one in stock ( I need it before the 13th!)

I really like the N-ATX from SFFTime, but it is both pricey and oos, but shows you what I am looking for.

[sand atlas]

If you have a full ATX motherboard then your SFF options are very limited. If you're on a tight budget mATX cases are common but if budget is less of a concern ITX is the way to go.

[fierce pivot]

actually the new ssupd meshroom takes atx motherboards if thats what youre on about? @sand atlas

theres also cases like the o11 air mini although thats quite wide

meshrooom is a lot smaller

[sand atlas]

I wouldn't call that SFF lol

[fierce pivot]

the meshroom?

[sand atlas]

The O11 line in general

None of those I would call SFF, even the small ones like the mini that used SFF power supplies

And it looks like the meshroom S is still a pre-order

[fierce pivot]

oh sad

[slow dust]

Is the 5000d a good case? I’m trying to upgrade because my 3060ti is to big for my current case

Saw the lian li to but 5000d is a bit cheaper

[upbeat dew]

5000x with 3060ti 3 fans

same as the 5000d

[weary vine]

g360a

[fierce pivot]

With 5000x being like 125 it's a great choice when you swap it out for the 5000d panel which corsair customer support gives out for free or like 10$/€

[sudden zenith]

Hey guys, looking for the smallest ATX case that can fit an ATX PSU and Mobo. For a reasonable price, rather not spend over $200 as I know some are. Something like the Cooler Master MasterBox Q500L, looking for options! Any help appreciated!

[blissful thistle]

Lian li 205 mesh is pretty small atx

[timid basin]

https://cultists.network/9412/psu-tier-list-was-updated-to-rev-16-1a/ feel like this is relevant for people here 😄

[fierce pivot]

Thanks but why change the link?

[timid basin]

this is the update article

[fierce pivot]

Oh nvm i see it works

[timid basin]

the list itself is unchanged

or well, outside of the update obviously

[fierce pivot]

Yeye nvm

@timid basin hey idk if search is messing up but I can't see a cx-m 2022 only 2017

[timid basin]

it's there, right next to it

😄

[fierce pivot]

Ohh it looks like 2022 CV

My bad

[timid basin]

no worries

[elfin trout]

yay g7 is on there now

[drifting sonnet]

here’s a new problem if anyone knows it; a few weeks ago my laptop was running a game, when suddenly the performance plummeted to what it would be when it’s unplugged and running on battery

since then, plugging it in has not made any difference in performance whatsoever- it charges, but performance stays the same, as if it was still running on battery

[lofty pewter]

Probably some sort of power saver option in one of your settings (BIOS settings [very unlikely], OS settings [Windows Power saver?], Nvidia/AMD control panel, Nvidia GFE [idk if AMD has a second control panel thingy], and/or OEM/SI software/bloatware). Most likely power limit is lowered, usually how perf is limited for laptop components.

[drifting sonnet]

GFE?

[past harbor]

GeForce Experience.

[drifting sonnet]

oh lmao

[lofty pewter]

Another unlikely issue to consider: make sure charger is supplying full rating. If laptop usually uses 240w charger but laptop is only being supplied 45w then that may be causing issues (Usually laptop gives a UI popup about this or doesnt lower PLs and just lets laptop slowly lose battery life)

Tho I do think it a software setting issue rather then a hardware issue

[drifting sonnet]

i was considering the possibility of the charger failing, yes

the thing that gets me is how random the whole thing happened

[drifting sonnet]

turns out GFE had battery saving enabled and capped FPS at 30, dunno why that turned on but it's off now- i'll keep up and make sure nothing else is causing it, but for now we're good; much appreciated!

[lofty pewter]

NP. I ended up doing an okay bit of looking around on laptop PLs when I wanted to change CPU PLs when on battery (Dell is pain fun).

[craggy mirage]

EVGA 1600w PSU, can't seem to get enough power to the video card from sleep state, or cold boot up. It's a defect with the motherboard,. But finally found where the defect on the motherboard is. I'm safe as long as I don't use spindle drives for now. Having them vanish after 30 minutes is just an accident waiting to happen.

[hollow leaf]

I think you should just ditch spindle drives all together man. It's almost every day that you seem to have some sort of problem with them.

[upbeat dew]

almost every day he have problems of some sort on his pc o.O

also hard to imagine a 1600w psu not powering a gpu

[craggy mirage]

It's not the spindle drives. Their not connected. That's basically what Im trying to say. The Motherboard is bad. Remember, I purchased 3 of them. One of the 3, bad.

Neweggservice took some info, but haven't heard back. Gather he's out for a few days or something.

[fierce pivot]

Maybe give them a dm tomorrow try to follow up

[next vault]

guys, how do i know if my psu is 12vhpwr

[fierce pivot]

If you bought it in the last month it might be if not definitely not

But you can just use 8 pin adaptors anyway

[next vault]

i bought it last year 😂

[next vault]

oh awesome, i have this one btw

[fierce pivot]

Nice psu

[next vault]

thank you, i appreciate it

[fierce pivot]

You can possibly buy an adaptor for the 12 pin but it wont do the dynamic thingy of 12v hpwr

[next vault]

what dynamic thing?

[fierce pivot]

Watch like 2ish minutes of this
https://youtu.be/EGHyDuPG1ks

[next vault]

so basically it can help with spikes, and basically that connecter means that the PSU and the GPU talk to eachother, and the PSU can tell the GPU what its capabilities are

is that what it is?

[fierce pivot]

Basically

[next vault]

but like since i already have a 1000w im good right? only problem is the spike thing, but other than that, both should bring the same performance?

[fierce pivot]

Yeah you're good

[past harbor]

Most 40 series should come with 8pin to 12vhpwr adapter, just stick to "official" adapters at least.

[upbeat dew]

dare to say all of them in fact

[past harbor]

Probably. 12vhpwr on psus is a bit late to the party.

[topaz nova]

Is it stupid that I'm getting the NEZUKO Asus TUF case

It's so weeb but I wanted it that badly

[serene siren]

Not really

If that's your endgame then make it last imo lol

[topaz nova]

I just wish the listing for the case had more info on Amazon and Newegg

[timid basin]

Seasonic recently announced an adapter for 2x 8-pin (PSU side) to 12VHPWR that would work with it

Corsair and Seasonic are currently the only ones offering it this way

[upbeat dew]

but that is kinda sad

2x8 pins to 12vhpwr means 300w max power to the card, severely limiting anything above the 4070 12gb

must be at least 3x8 to really matter right now

[fierce pivot]

Don't worry 75w slot power to the rescue

[lavish crypt]

https://seasonic.com/news/post/sea-sonic-to-launch-new-vertex/

Availability:
Mid-December 2022: North America / Europe / Asia

[vagrant lantern]

Guys why is my psu fan not spinning?

I have a tuf gaming 550w

[mild roost]

psu fan only kicks on when there's high enough load

it's fine

just run something heavy and see if it spins i guess if it concerns you

[vagrant lantern]

I have a 960 in my system I’m playing game the total power draws is around 160w it’s not spinning

[mild roost]

yeah that's very very low load for the psu

it's rated to hit 550w 24/7 so

that's not enough for it to need active cooling

[vagrant lantern]

but my other psu fan is spnning idle

does asus tuf do that?

[mild roost]

that's just how the other psu is designed

nothing of concern

[vagrant lantern]

so the tuf 550 is designed that way

[vagrant lantern]

ok good thanks

[mild roost]

yeah

[vagrant lantern]

i'm goin gto give one of my pc to my friend i just don't want it to explode

like those thermalbomb

[timid basin]

no, it doesn't

it would in theory if you were to do 2x PCIe power to a 12VHPWR, yes

but you can go well beyond that on the PSU side, especially if they use HCS

[hollow tapir]

Hi I was trying to get some Help in finding a 300W power supply for a Dell 3910 MT model D32M can anyone help me out the dell and most other sites do not have it in stock

[desert heart]

When does the MSI Meg psu come out 🥺

[mild roost]

it's already out

if you're talking about the pcie 5.0 psu

[desert heart]

the ai1300p is out?

but where tho

[mild roost]

not the 1300w one

but 1000w

it's on newegg

[desert heart]

the Meg?

[mild roost]

yep

[mild roost]

Since the pc is so new, there's no used psu for it. Why are you wanting to get 300w version of the psu anyway? The machine doesn't even want to take a dedicated gpu due to the psu design

[hollow tapir]

yes Hello I was wanting to add a Graphics card but i need a 300w supply to run it

I was under the impression i could bypass the intergrated one and use a card

[mild roost]

That probably won't happen because the psu lacks any power cables for a gpu

You can try a low power gpu but that's it

[desert heart]

I only see the other one. i don't think it has the 12hvpwr

[mild roost]

It does if it says pcie 5.0

or something

[desert heart]

I dunno it's atx 3.0 tho

[hollow tapir]

yes the one i have now is 125w and the system info says it can be run but not with 180w

[mild roost]

is it the ai1000p?

[hollow tapir]

I bought a GTX 1660 super ^ GB i think thats what it was

6 GB

[upbeat dew]

seems like this one https://www.amazon.com/DELL-POWER-SUPPLY-300W/dp/B004576Y0E is the replacement for your mt3910

research from there

[hollow tapir]

ok thanks I will check that one

[mild roost]

also imo you don't even need atx 3.0 psu to power something like 4090

[upbeat dew]

again, research from there

im not saying that one is for your pc

[mild roost]

just use adapter from the gpu box

[upbeat dew]

could be, could be not

at least dell forums mark that one as the upgrade path from 180w to 300w on those dell systems

model T7X04

[hollow tapir]

I am not that pc Savy but i did ask dell and they didnt have anything in stock

yes i searched for that part number many places dont even have that part number

[upbeat dew]

ouch

[desert heart]

ye

[hollow tapir]

yes i messed up i didnt see it was an intergrated Gpu

[desert heart]

rn i just have an 850 watt and i kinda want an OC 4090

[hollow tapir]

I Guess I will have to return it

[mild roost]

if you're only gaming

4080 16 gigs would be better choice

[upbeat dew]

to me, dell prebuilts are pretty bad

[blissful thistle]

Not at all

4090 is a huge difference from 4080 16gb even when gaming

Not like the 3080s and 3090

[hollow tapir]

anyway thank you all for trying to help but It looks like i am returning this system\

[mild roost]

huh

well then

[hollow tapir]

i just bought this pc

[mild roost]

but is it gonna be worth it to pay like $1599 for a 4090?

[hollow tapir]

so i can return it

[mild roost]

i guess it's fair cause it's erm

1199 for 4080 16 givs

yeah, returning the dell would be the good choice

you can probably try putting a new custom pc together if you want to

[hollow tapir]

yes I think so too

thanks for the help

have a Great Day

[upbeat dew]

too bad review embargo lift will be 12th as well

to see those beasts in action

[bleak holly]

Is there anyway to vertically mount something in the fractal torrent?

[upbeat dew]

tried youtube already? maybe someone did that

[desert heart]

i wonder if the thermaltake view 31 can handle verticle mount

[sand atlas]

Not a great idea, I've seen it tested with a 3D printed bracket and you get worse GPU temps. The bottom fans are meant to blow directly into the GPU, not past it.

[bleak holly]

Oooof. Here I was hoping I'd be able to vertical mount a Aorus 4090 for those looks...

Any cases with similar performance and expandability with the GPU mounted vertically?

[sand atlas]

With a GPU that size you'd need a multi point support system, there's no bottom panel to prop it up on with the torrent

[bleak holly]

True.

I was considering buying like 3 sag supports.

Or do you think the Torrent's built in sag support will work?

[sand atlas]

I don't think it was made with a GPU that size in mind

[bleak holly]

So I should buy one of those sag supports that go into the expansion slot?

[serene siren]

It's really just in general vertical isn't the best orientation in just about any case that isn't SFF

Horizontal will def be the best performance

[bleak holly]

Got it.

[sand atlas]

Also true

[bleak holly]

Though I wonder why no flash on the backplate then....

[sand atlas]

Plus with a 3.5+ slot width GPU I don't think there's any case with vertical mounting that it'll fit without custom work

[serene siren]

Lmfao I never considered that

The aorus so big that the vertical mount interferes with the entire mobo

[bleak holly]

Aside from looks and performance, I almost wanna just get the Aorus for the memes.

[bleak holly]

Thanks for the knowledge.

I will look into a gpu sag support then to further help keep the gpu from dropping.

[upbeat dew]

but looks should mean little to you, to my knowledge you were planning to water block the card dont you?

[bleak holly]

Don't ruin a man's dream.

But yeah, that is the end goal.

[upbeat dew]

and yeah if you want to vertical mount a card, the fractol will not help you

[serene siren]

Honestly if you go aorus thicc Boi it's almost an insult to waterblock so much heatsink lol

If there's any card that screams "I will brute force anything you throw at me" that's the card

[upbeat dew]

need to measure my 5000x as well

[bleak holly]

Fair, fair.

[topaz nova]

owo

I get my case this weekend

[verbal sun]

I’m trying to get a wifi card into that slot, is there a way to get those grates on the back out of the way? (Yes I know it’s a bit dusty, compressed air incoming)

[fierce pivot]

In most cases there's a screw holding them in, your case looks like a pretty cheap one that makes you bend out the slots

[verbal sun]

It is indeed cheap lol, so it’s ok to just bend it until it pops out?

[fierce pivot]

Ye

Seems like that kind of case

[verbal sun]

Cougar MX330 for reference

[mild roost]

Yeah

Those needs bending of the pcie slots

They're made to pop out like that

[verbal sun]

Perfect. I forgot I did it for my GPU so I was worried lol

[sleek ibex]

How do I get my wifi card to work i case swapped from a 25L omen to a Corsair 4000D airflow and it never had antennas, it was connected to two wires. One said aux one side main that was attached to the 25L omen case.

[tropic dune]

so the case itself was the antenna

[sand atlas]

It should work without antennas anyway, just a little worse transmit signal integrity

[sleek ibex]

That’s what I thought but I wasn’t sure

[sleek ibex]

But how do I power it

[sand atlas]

If it attaches to the mobo then that's how

[sleek ibex]

Oh, I’m dumb

It slides into the mobo where it says wireless like a m.2 storage card

[sand atlas]

Yep it's powered by the slot

[sleek ibex]

Ok so my network isn’t showing up because I don’t have antennas

[past harbor]

Most wifi cards have a high dependence on antenna, yes. Rip the antenna off your car and see how the radio reception goes to crap.

[sleek ibex]

That makes sense, am I able to use my Corsair 4000D case as an antenna like I was able to with my omen

Because I have a mini atx board, it and my io shield doesn’t have any slots for me to put a antenna in

[scenic lance]

P obvious now that Corsair pays for positive reviews

[sleek ibex]

@past harbor @sand atlas @tropic dune thankyou for the help

[sleek ibex]

😂😂

[scenic lance]

Sitting here trying to figure out how to fit an atx power supply with the included 3.5in drive bays in the 5000D
Corsairs solution is pretty simple
"Don't plug anything into the power supply"

Genuinely didn't know you guys were already discussing Corsair
Just came here to complain about it

[sleek ibex]

You should be able to take out the plastic cover where the bottom fan is on the front panel and you should be able to move the drive bay over. That’s what I did.

I would send you a picture, but it won’t let me

[scenic lance]

I figured that out too, but it seems dumb that then you either can't have fans on the backplane or you can't actually use the drive sled in the bay

I wish they'd just made it so you could mount the drive bay here
By just taking that plastic piece out, and then make it so you can access the sleds from this side
Makes a lot more sense to my stupid monkey brain

[sleek ibex]

You still can use fans you will just have to use the thicker plastic plate

I like the back and white

[scenic lance]

I know, but im saying then you can't take the sled about without taking the whole bay out
Or you can take the backplane off and not Mount fans, but be able to use the sleds

[sleek ibex]

Your right that can be very tedious

[serene siren]

Corsair in many things chooses form over function

[scenic lance]

Thanks. It's honestly a great case otherwise, just this one little thing really bothers me cause I still use a couple mechanical drives
Just got a 6800xt a couple days ago, finally got around to installing it
But moving from a 1080fe means I had to get two more 8 pin pcie cables plugged in
When there was only one 8 pin I managed to get the drive bays in the proper spot to use the sleds by routing the cables above the drive bay, but I cannot route 3 of them up there along with the sata power and 24 pin

Cpu cable is easier cause it's toward the edge of the PSU

[scenic lance]

It made a p concerning sound when I put the GPU in the slot
But it's all working
More than doubled my 1080s best fire strike ultra score , and that was with the biggest overclock I could get stable on the 1080

[sand atlas]

All an antenna is is a wire leading to metal that conducts electromagnetic waves. Take the antennae off your old case and stick them to unpainted metal on your new one.

[mild roost]

^

[topaz nova]

got my nezuko case !!!!

[bleak holly]

Have any ATX 3.0 PSUs releaed yet?

Wondering because I plan on ordering a 4090 tomorrow.

[bleak holly]

Which ones have been released, Chillin?

[past harbor]

Some by msi & gigabyte. 🤷‍♂️

[bleak holly]

Are those brand's PSUs usually reliable?

Do you guys think a Gigabyte Aorus 4090 will fit inside a Matrexx 50 Deepcool?

Length wise is cutting it close but will fit, however I am not sure about height.

[serene siren]

Doubt

[drifting berry]

Hey I have a question is it better to have multiple external hard drives or like should I do something else for a large group of files?

[bleak holly]

Might be better asked in #storage-devices

[craggy mirage]

I'm putting together a p67.... Crap, forgot the rest of the Asus board name rofl. Anyways, I'm basically putting systems together to clear out space and sell or donate, and came across two sealed Gamax PSUs. Their not exactly RGB, they have a blue light. They definitely have some kind of time bomb like the R4s. Turned each one on, system ran fine. Went to show my kids and nothing happened. Same with the second one. Before I went with EVGA for my own new build, my other Gamax that is RGB had a 555 timer chip in it, which I removed. Can't do that if im selling or donating, but figure I mention it since I find it funny how two unused ones just died right after first boot up.
.

I also need to faze out the other power supplies and wondering what I should aim for, since their systems don't have a lot of drives. Basically a Aorus Master z690, I7, 32gb ddr5 ram, 2tb NVME, and Two Seagate 4tb SATA hard drives, and EVGA RTX 2060 12gb ram video card.

They have GaneMax 1050w, and no, didn't just buy them. They were already being used from their Z97 Pro gamer, and upgraded to the above before you all warned me of them. I already got my system and wife's done with EVGA 1600w. Yeah, bit of over kill but price was good for Platinum. If they go on sale again, I'll grab two more for my kids.

[knotty mesa]

currentATX 3.0 units
Corsair HXi 2022 (gold)
MSI MEG AI-P (blue)
Silverstone Hela 850R (blue)
FSP Hydro PTM Pro ATX 3.0 (white)
Seasonic Vertex (white)
Seasonic Prime TX1600 (gold)

[timid basin]

add GF3 to that 😄

[knotty mesa]

😮

[strange gate]

anyone know any good pc cases for below 70 usd

[sand atlas]

MX330-G Air

Currently on backorder on wegg https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811553054

[blissful thistle]

$200 atx 3.0 1000w psu https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-a1000g-pcie-5/p/N82E16817701016?Item=N82E16817701016&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-17-701-016-_-10142022

[bleak holly]

Srly?!

[bleak holly]

Did they release a 1200w version?

[serene siren]

They have a 1300W sku

What psu do you have rn?

[knotty mesa]

this is the AG not the ai-p

therse 750w/850w/1kW

for AG

[serene siren]

Yup, but it did come basically the same time as the 1000

Wait

No not a1300g

?

[knotty mesa]

AG is a sorta budgety/ish CSZ

ai-p is a more premium CST platform

ai-p has 1kW and 1.3kW

[serene siren]

Oh I see what happened

I thought they were talking about ai1000p to begin with

Yes you're right AG is not ATX 3

[knotty mesa]

!!

[serene siren]

My bad I work like 6 days a week

[slow dust]

is it normal for a psu to make a click noise when turning on and off. I also noticed that when i shut the pc off from windows, i hear a faint whining noise for a couple of seconds and it slowly goes away. My psu is 850 rmx

[mild roost]

it's fine

nothing to be worrying about

[slow dust]

ah, even the whining noise?

i would never have noticed it if i didnt put my ear against the power supply

[mild roost]

yep

[slow dust]

ah alr thank you

[knotty mesa]

yea thats just its relay switching presumably

i got some andyson based psu next to me that does that exact thing

[sturdy flame]

hi guys! i have a 750 watt PSU and im worried if a build with a 13600k and a 6800 xt would be too much wattage for it to handle thanks

[sand atlas]

What model psu?

If it's an A tier on this list it's probably ok but the lower the tier the riskier it'll be https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[blissful thistle]

Most b tiers would be fine too

I've ran a 6800xt on a 650w psu, low wattage cpu but the extra 100w should make up for that

[sturdy flame]

a b tier psu ive heard it described as

gigabyte UD750GM

[blissful thistle]

Decent one, imo it'll be fine

Especially if you're just gaming

[sturdy flame]

gaming and video editing

[sand atlas]

Still fine

[blissful thistle]

Ye

[sturdy flame]

aweeesome

[craggy mirage]

What purpose does this serve? Every Glass RGB Thermaltake case I have done a build in, past two years, has this in the case, and it blocks all the PCI Express card slots, so end up always removing it from the case.

[wanton briar]

Vertical GPU mounting bracket of some sort.

[craggy mirage]

Had a Karen of a customer, get on my case (no pun intended) when I handed that to them, and the guy was like "your stupid to not know how to put this back?" Where I opened the case, and said unless your two MSI cards are TARDIS's, that's not going back. Got a harrumph, and he just left.

[wanton briar]

It obviously is not used unless you are vertically mounting a GPU.

[craggy mirage]

I gather that can only be done with a ribbon cable? I just can't see any way a card can be a different direction, unless it's on some kind of cable. I just found some PSU power sata switches, that can fit that GPU side slot. I don't like having to have to plug and unplug the SATA drives, which I'm now just using for backups, and the switch set looks handy, so I won't have spindle drives, slowing down my new system. Now that I know they exists, maybe I can find one that I can put a switch set either front or on the glass door on side, so I'm not forced to reach behind every time.

https://a.co/d/fgDs7VG

[wanton briar]

Yes, its called a GPU riser cable.

GPU riser cable would screw into it here.

[craggy mirage]

Thanks Cody, that now makes sense of you want to fully display a RGB video card. Not a bad idea.

Really, my god, I had zero clue that's what it's for 😂

A Riser cable, would also allow me to access my NVME slots, without having to remove a bunch of hardware!

[wanton briar]

It is rather unique design to Thermaltake I do believe and not many cases have them pre-installed like that.

[craggy mirage]

Thermaltake, is the only case I have seen them. I sent one back to Amazon back in February, because it was held in by punch welds, instead of screws.

Figured it was a fake copy, or someone messed up during manufacturing.

Brb, pricing riser cables now lol.

For something that Thermaltake mainly does, seems it must be very popular. Prices go from $10 to $86, with PCI express power option on some.

The only thing I see that's questionable, is doing this, changes the air flow inside the case.

Which explains the unused radiator mount.

It at least puts a stop to the annoying issue, of reaching the card lock under the video card, which on my Z690, I was forced to cut a new mouse pad, to get two centimeter thick strips, to lay on the motherboard, so I could reach in with two metal rods, to put pressure on the tab so I could get the RTX out, and not damage my new board.

Years ago, I made my own extenders, not PCI express, for my Amiga 2000 with an 8 card expansion, made by Amiga Computers in Northport, so I could run a 4 line multi user BBS using C-Net Amiga.

[wanton briar]

Nah every company does this but most cases use the same design for the mounting bracket, Thermaltake's mounting bracket design is just large and weird. Every other companies is much more compact or not even needed.

[craggy mirage]

I like the idea, just having trouble selecting the right cable to fit that adapter. I get the impression Thermaltake made it to only fit their extender.

[kind sinew]

I need help getting a bigger pc case for a new pc I am starting can anyone point me the right way

[elfin trout]

What's your budget and how big are you talking

[kind sinew]

I am getting a 3080 Nvidia graphics card and I want room but don’t want to put a lot of money into the case

[blissful thistle]

What country?

[elfin trout]

So how much is not a lot

Ballpark estimate

[kind sinew]

USA

[kind sinew]

On the tower itself I really don’t wanna spend more than 250

[elfin trout]

Phanteks P500a maybe

[blissful thistle]

g360a, whatever the one deepcool 560 one is, p500a, 5000d airflow

[serene siren]

CG or CK560

Is your deepcool one

[timid basin]

actually found out via Aris, while it looks a lot like a CST physically... it's a CTT

[timid basin]

there is an ATX 3.0 version of it

or at least, a version that claims to be ATX 3.0 compatible

[serene siren]

omg you're right

[timid basin]

the click you hear is a relay, the whine you hear is the unit shifting between burst mode and regular operation

[timid basin]

https://tenor.com/view/man-im-tired-of-being-right-ace-ventura-gif-11174346

I'll let myself out

[serene siren]

no come back, your wisdom ...!

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-22904868

[timid basin]

don't worry

I'm still here when I don't forget to look

[stray lynx]

Thinking of getting this for new build. Will it do for new RTX 4090, I9 13900K ?https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1703587-REG/gigabyte_gp_ap1200pm_1200w_80_plus.html

[fierce pivot]

Yes but it's very overpriced

Would get this instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YfK7YJ/super-flower-power-supply-sf1300f14mg

[timid basin]

I'm still not willing to put full trust into MEIC

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QnBG3C/be-quiet-pure-power-11-fm-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn676

[fierce pivot]

I'd pay the extra 35$ for the 1200w personally, any complaints about the leadex or?

[timid basin]

Outside of being on the louder side and me preferring multirail on this kind of wattage... Nothing major

[fierce pivot]

Fair enough i doubt you'd hear it over a 4090 13900k system anyway

[tropic dune]

if I were to switch from Corsair 650w gold PSU to a Corsair 850w+ gold would I be able to use the same cables, or should I swap to the ones that come w/ the new PSU?

[elfin trout]

Depends on which one

Corsair has many, they do have their own cable compatibility chart

[tropic dune]

okay i will check that then, was looking at an RM850 or RM1000 from an RM 650

[sand atlas]

If you're going from one RM to another RM yes you can reuse the cables

[elfin trout]

Might depend on year

I think rm 2019 uses different 24pin than rm 2021

[tropic dune]

i'll worry about it more when i get one, i was just curious so i knew whether i would have to redo cabling or not ahead of time

[sand atlas]

You are correct, so I'd swap the 24 pin out just in case

[knotty mesa]

type 3 vs type 4 moment

[timid basin]

no, 2019 and 2021 both use type 4

2013 does use type 3 instead, making the 24 pin different

[timid basin]

is your current RM a black label or does have it yellow in it?

[sand atlas]

Corsair's compatibility list is unclear since there's more than 2 model years of RM

[tropic dune]

black label, no yellow

[timid basin]

then it's 2019

therefore, interchangeable

[bleak holly]

What are the currently available ATX 3.0 PSUs?

[sand atlas]

Truly 3.0 or "3.0" with a special cable?

[bleak holly]

Truly.

Found the A1000G.

Is that full 3.0?

[sand atlas]

There's one version that isn't and one that claims to be

Look for the 12VHPWR connector

[broken osprey]

anyone... I cant find a coolermaster cosmos similiar case with a front mounted Asus ryujin 360. Theres room for 240 on top too! Well Its not the tubes but the rad should always be above the pump unless its a particular msi model that was designed to work on bottom too advertizing went off radar sort of.

[bleak holly]

The one I picked, claims to be PCIE 5.0 and has the 12VHPWR.

[broken osprey]

msi was the only manufacturer that had a bottom closed loop design that they mentioned was designed to handle any orientation

I have jonsbo Tr03A case with solid panel and it does not fit to radiators in it

[sand atlas]

Front mounting a radiator is fine, only part of the radiator needs to be above the cpu and not the whole thing

[bleak holly]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZDt9TW/msi-a1000g-pcie5-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a1000g-pcie-5

[sand atlas]

Out of stock everywhere ofc

[broken osprey]

radiator mounting researched jays to cents linus tech and well the other guy

[broken osprey]

I built my first Unidentified and also it has to be plugged in with monitor and keyboard or it wont start up at all the first time

so it worked the thrice. and i say duplicate 1 2 or 3 keyboards which was weird in the menu system sorta glitch. I dont know how to clean it or reset

tubes up if if its the only way and the rad is above the pump. the pump is on top of the cpu gpu.

so the bubbles are in the top of the radiator which the radiator is above the top of the cpu gpu

its the height

gravity

Jays 2cents linus tech and check there revised or videos

as long as the pump is lower yes its jays 2 cents video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKwA7ygTJn0

I learned A lot of really ... oh yeah the manufacturer techs of motherboard I bought could not tell me where to plug a argb fan into.. its the argb fan header of the board duh. they answered my question with loop diagram had no answer to the actual fan cable just the pic

I have 1 question. Gigabit ethernet modem ports. the modem is advertized as reaching up to 10Gbs speed. How? if gigibit is only 1,000?. Its not 2.5G multi-gigabit plug

2.5 multi-gigabit port is actually variable and backward compatible. 10mbs? 100mbs? 300mbs 1gb 2.5gb 5gb so standard ports are 1gb,10gb and anything in between thats under 10gb like 5 youll only get 1gb speed. becuase it cant sense the difference

[sand atlas]

The ethernet ports are only capable of the rated speeds for each port but the modem itself can get up to 10Gbps

That 10Gbps would be combined from all the ports, wifi, etc

[broken osprey]

so what type gigabit ports are they mentioning? I read that gigabit ports can speeds can be 1gb and 10gb speed. so if your 9.4gb your ports stuck at 1gb speed. However not with variable multi-gigabit ports and 2.5 multigigabyte ports. the multi-gigabit ports have speeds in between 1 and 10 gb. there the multigigabit port reaching 10 max? gb and the 2.5 multi-gig port reaching 5

according to netgear The existing Gigabit and 10-Gigabit Ethernet standards do not allow speeds between 10 Gbps and 1 Gbps.

[sand atlas]

It depends on the exact model of modem you're talking about. Some of them are capable of faster communication speeds than their ethernet port allows.

[broken osprey]

the multi-gig ones do allow speeds between 10gbps and 1gbps

however the fast consumer internet speed is 1gbps. the giants do have 10

https://kb.netgear.com/000049004/What-is-Multi-Gigabit-Ethernet-and-how-can-I-benefit-from-using-NETGEAR-Multi-Gigabit-Ethernet-Switches-in-my-network

[sand atlas]

You'll only ever get the speed you pay for, maybe a little over from overprovisioning

Any extra speed a router is capable of can be used for fast connection to a home server

[broken osprey]

And when some regions have local isps throttling our connection Lower than what we pay for

slower speed than advertized

[sand atlas]

Complaining works if you do it enough. Waste their time. Call every day.

[broken osprey]

1 should Keep playing internet until my old modem fails. 2 should I use gigabit ethernet modem with aggregate truncate ports. or 3 should I get the 2.5multigig trade in even with 1gb max internet speed not knowing my service plan is uner 1gb in mbps just for an extra port to plug something in 5 more is more than 4

Either way It came the 2nd fastest modem. and I can update the firmware

I curious if anyone has tried overclocking ecc ram?

The default settings before an os is installed just crashes a pc. So many buttons Asus had holes drilled backward in another motherboard for a noctua nhd15s chromax black kinda cool lookin. However linus has had a arctic 120L cooling a R9 5900x that processor has power saving feature built into it with the 12 cores unlike the 16 one

I was surprised he cooled that well it didnt get above number something

arctic liquid cooler 120 is thicker than other 120's for better water cooling in the radiator

I should move that to cooling thread

[brave hearth]

how much power do I need for a R7 5800x3d and a 6800xt?

I have 700

is that enough?

[carmine oyster]

Yea u should be fine

[mild roost]

Depends on the psu

If it's a good unit then you'll be good

[carmine oyster]

True

Yea @brave hearth what psu is it?

[serene siren]

And how old is the psu too

[brave hearth]

Thermaltake Smart Series 80+ Gold

barely got my pc April of this year

[mild roost]

can be good or bad

[sand atlas]

Smart BM2? All the other smarts are bad

[brave hearth]

iedk

[sand atlas]

Ehh double checking the tier list you might be ok. Thermaltake is godawful with their model naming though.

Don't expect to overclock much

[mild roost]

^

[brave hearth]

ight thx

[sand atlas]

The best smart is a tier C so odds are good that a 3080 will shut it down with transient loads when gaming

But that's not a dangerous issue. If it happens frequently then replace it.

[brave hearth]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/115395389838?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=115395389838&targetid=1263433204694&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=9031577&poi=&campaignid=14859008593&mkgroupid=130497710760&rlsatarget=pla-1263433204694&abcId=9300678&merchantid=114685419&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqc6aBhC4ARIsAN06NmOJwvWZkRKQATNUC5pa_vfiJS7CytG0rvskKGilDAUbCluPzLC6ujcaAmZaEALw_wcB

this is the only one that looks exactly like my psu

[sand atlas]

Yeah that's one of the C tier ones

[brave hearth]

so its good?

not terrible

[sand atlas]

It's ok, passable. Not ideal but it might work.

[arctic owl]

Soo I just bought a corsair 1000W gold PSU right to transfer all my old parts to the new Case with the new PSU but now the PSU doesn't turned on at idk if it's the motherboard ihavr isn't compatible or something. I connected to the right pins and the board I have is the Aorus z390 pro wifi. I appreciate someone help me with this issue.

[mild roost]

Have you switched the psu on? Might have a switch on it

[arctic owl]

I try that still nothing

[fierce pivot]

can you send a pic of your motherboard, specifically to make sure your cables are 1 in the right way and 2 in fully

[arctic owl]

And I use the previous cable from my old psu to this one.

[fierce pivot]

no dont do that

psu cables arent universal

[carmine oyster]

Oh nononono

😭

[arctic owl]

What's the solution?

@fierce pivot it's the been 3 year since I built this first pc and now I forgot the components.

Forgot to take the photos of which cables goes which lol

[upbeat dew]

[arctic owl]

[upbeat dew]

[arctic owl]

Yep 🥲

[upbeat dew]

never ever reuse cables on psus

use the ones supplied on your new psu

always

[arctic owl]

So it works differently 🤔

[upbeat dew]

most series dont share cable config, not even from the same brand

[fierce pivot]

swap the cables for the ones that came with the psu and hope that it works

[arctic owl]

So Corsair ans evga is a now then for cable.

[upbeat dew]

omg

last one was evga?

not even the same brand

do what pato says

[arctic owl]

Ok

Ok all these components for this 1000w PSU connect in there properly

[arctic owl]

@fierce pivot I love you

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-i-love-you-ily-gif-4247002

And thank you you were right.

[fierce pivot]

No problem

[mild roost]

Crisis averted

[serene siren]

Omg

That was close

Thankfully the psu was smart enough I guess not to turn on

[fierce pivot]

Yeah must be or lucky

[chilly herald]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09RK7GFQL good psu?

[mild roost]

ye

it's a b tier but good enough

[fierce pivot]

Yeah although not really a use for an 850w b tier, imo get a 650w or 750w b tier unit or get an 850w a tier

[hollow leaf]

Is the EVGA 650GA speculative B tier? I see that the list said => 850w so I believe it is?

[serene siren]

Solid B

[hollow leaf]

Thanks bb

[serene siren]

You're welcome B

[hollow leaf]

Found a new, but open box for a goooood price. Gonna grab it for my daughters build.

[arctic owl]

Clearly it knows me that I love Tech

This is it though

After transferring my parts to this one now I'm debating if I should get 13900k or 13700k since I have 1000w psu

[fierce pivot]

13700k

[arctic owl]

Sooo due to this case I have that one right?

[fierce pivot]

No just the fact that the 13900k needs a 360mm aio basically and is way more expensive for negligible performance gain in gaming

[arctic owl]

Hmmm right if I spend more. And I already have. 240mm about. 3 years and it worked fine. Soo might as well save other than spending more.

Mobo I know what to get with and I'll need DDR5 ram since I have DDR 4 right now. Soo

[fierce pivot]

You can get ddr4 motherboards and reuse your ram

[arctic owl]

True but I check the benchmark and I have 3200mhz ram 32gb

Soo I may want to upgrade that.

I have this.

[fierce pivot]

That's perfectly fine

Imo it's not worth spending $200ish for a bit more perf, if you had to buy new ram it's different but there's nothing wrong with that there

[arctic owl]

Hmmm ok then.

[next knot]

im getting a 5600x with a 6800xt which 750w is the best for it that?

[sand atlas]

"Best" or "Best value"

[next knot]

both

[sand atlas]

Value pick https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-bronze-sf-750r14he-750w/p/1HU-024C-00018

$30 more gets you this gem https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-tt-premium-edition-ps-tpd-0850fnfaga-1-850w/p/N82E16817153403

Could do the 750W GF1 also

[next knot]

could i also do evga supernova gold?

https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-750-ga-220-ga-0750-x1-750w/p/1HU-00J7-004V2?Item=9SIB38SJJX9982&Description=supernova 750w&cm_re=supernova_750w-_-1HU-00J7-004V2-_-Product&quicklink=true

[serene siren]

did you buy this already for that price

[next knot]

no. im waiting for sales in november but im just choosing the parts

[serene siren]

then you should ask us in november, the prices will all change by then

[tulip granite]

+new stuff may come out

[sand atlas]

You could pay more for lower quality yeah

[serene siren]

rn that GA I would say is a no no due to the transient issues

and the price yeah

[sand atlas]

For $10 less than that you get a A tier 850W GF1

[mild roost]

ga is wack

[knotty mesa]

those transient issues have been fixed already, unless there has been something else that has been shed to light

[hollow leaf]

I thought the GA was B tier though?

[serene siren]

it is, that was just in the footnotes for it for high end cards

I agree with blinkzz but that's provided it's a newer unit

[serene siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500101029157797899/1034657987446448151/unknown.png

[knotty mesa]

a tier is a broad ranking, like in A tier you have a GF1 then you have a AXI. They all follow a standard of methodology but that does not mean they are on the same level quality. They just meet the minimum requirements to be in that tier but all short of approaching the next tier per methodology

GA is a p bad unit in terms of pricing regardless

Last time I checked it was around EVGA GT pricing lol

Better off with that TPK than some under reviewed andyson platform lol

[upbeat dew]

there is no "next tier" above A tier.... also they meet the requirements for such tier.... not "minimum" because there is no minimum requirements... they meet the requirements or they don't, simple as that

[knotty mesa]

a tier not “A” tier

And that’s what I meant by requirements

[upbeat dew]

well GA in not an under reviewed series 😛 just a lot of complaints about transients on 3080s

750ga on one of my rigs powering a 12700+60ti... no problems so far since january

in fact there is an article about that one on tom hardware, well reviewed in fact

[blissful thistle]

An E tier 500w powered my 3600 and 3060 ti

Doesn't mean it's good, the ga is mediocre at best.

It's almost always overpriced

[upbeat dew]

indeed

i wouldn't say mediocre anyway D: just... ok for what it is, a b tier mid range psu

overpriced? totally

in fact anything that need at least 750w and up should be A tier on my book anyway

[fierce pivot]

Usually evga units have terrible pricing

Can't imagine needing an 850w b tier kek

[upbeat dew]

transient town

still one redeemable feature on the 40 series is the lack of those spikes, you can even power a 4090 on a 600w psu if you want

550w as linus.... living at the extreme

[blissful thistle]

Gt moment

That and cxf are only B tiers I can think of I'd trust for 750 plus

[fierce pivot]

Ehh i don't see the point personally

[blissful thistle]

I got gt 850 for $50 off b stock

For certain deals, if the psu is known to be good, ex the GT has better transient management than a lot of other b tier psus

[fierce pivot]

Well sure but that's an exception when you're buying b stock

[knotty mesa]

More budget friendly high wattage psus aren’t all that bad lol

Like RMe

[past harbor]

Not just from possibly extra supply, but I reckon some evga psu pricing will get better as they stop depending on the gpus as much, and at all eventually.

[sand atlas]

Some PSUs have been dropping in price as they've rolled out ATX 3.0 models. GF1 is a great price right now.

[next knot]

i only heard on evga and cosair

[sand atlas]

Thermaltake GF3 is out too

It has the 12VHPWR native connector

[burnt rover]

i need help finding a case that can take a water cooler radiator that takes two 140 fans

so a 280 radiator

that does not break the bank

[fierce pivot]

Corsair 4000d airflow, deepcool cg560, ck560 off the top of my head

[burnt rover]

would this
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-hydro-series-h110-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835181062?Item=N82E16835181062
fit into this
https://www.amazon.com/Fractal-Design-FD-CA-Focus-RD-W-Computer-Mystic/dp/B074PTN1KR/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=fractal+computer+case&qid=1666855838&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI0LjcyIiwicXNhIjoiNC4xNyIsInFzcCI6IjIuNTQifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=fractal+co%2Caps%2C137&sr=8-11

[sand atlas]

Yes, on the front, and only if you don't use the bottom 5.25" bay

[mild roost]

^

[next knot]

Will 750psu work with 6900xt

[blissful thistle]

depends on the model

[next knot]

For the gpu or psu?

[blissful thistle]

psu

[next knot]

Should i upgrade to 850 or 1000?

[blissful thistle]

again

what model is the 750w

[next knot]

Evga supernova g6

[blissful thistle]

it will be fine

[next knot]

6900xt says recomm is 850w

Im totally confused this is my first build

[blissful thistle]

it will be fine

[next knot]

Really?

[blissful thistle]

I've ran a 6800xt on a 650w

[next knot]

Wont there be power spikes?

[sand atlas]

Yes but G6 can handle them

And they're not as bad as Nvidia spikes

[next knot]

Thanks. Is 1200w gf1 thermopower any good

[sand atlas]

GF1 is the same A tier as the G6. You could power 2 6900XTs on that thing.

Assuming you mean thermaltake toughpower

[next knot]

Yep

[next knot]

Is gf1 toughpower 850w any good

[sand atlas]

Yes top tier

It's been cheaper recently because they're rolling out the new GF3 that has the 16 pin connector for 40 series

[edgy flume]

Corsair iCUE 4000X worth? I currently have a H510

[blissful thistle]

they're both bad cases, but the 4000x is much better

I'd either get the g360a, or get the 4000x and get the airflow panel from corsair for free

[edgy flume]

alright ill take a look at the g360a

Prob gunna go with the 4000x

How do i go about getting the airflow panel?

[blissful thistle]

just contact customer service and they'll likely send you one for free

just tell them you're having temp issues with the 4000x and they'll send it to you

worst case scenario they charge you like $10 for it, but the 4000x with the solid front panel isn't great

[edgy flume]

10$ not too much

[blissful thistle]

it's the best case that has a solid front panel, but it's much better with the mesh

[edgy flume]

Alright thanks for the info

[blissful thistle]

np

[green tartan]

I have a 4000x and it’s not horrible but there’s some things I don’t like wanted to but my radiator on the top but the ram blocked me

Now I’m probally gonna look for a new case

Since I think my new gpu might not fit in it so I might have to get a bigger case

[upbeat dew]

the horrible aspect of it is the solid front panle

is terrible for airflow

once you change the front for the mesh panel then its a sweet case

small and cozy

[slow pagoda]

what psu would be good for a 12600k and 3070

[past harbor]

Rm750x or various other 750w options would be plenty. 850w if you're planning some sort of upgrade soon perhaps.

[fierce pivot]

What country you in?

[slow pagoda]

U.S

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vcZzK8/super-flower-legion-gx-pro-650-w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-650p14xe

Or the 750w
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XNkgXL/super-flower-legion-gx-pro-750-w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-750p14xe

They're the best choice atm

[slow pagoda]

So I 650w will be enough ?

[fierce pivot]

Ye

Personally since the 750w is only 10$ more I'd grab that

[timid basin]

Sadly not a whole lot of coverage

I could probably ask them for a sample... But even then, I'm only able to do stuff like a part breakdown

Not really anything testing related

[elfin trout]

Hope Aris gets to test one?

[fierce pivot]

Sadge

[knotty mesa]

Shirley

[fervent dust]

I have a 850W PSU does this mean it has 2 PCIe Connectors or 4 connectors..?

I need 3

[past harbor]

2 cables x 2 connectors each = 4. Then you'll do this:

[fervent dust]

Yay I don't need to buy another cable

[serene siren]

Beautiful choice of psu btw @fervent dust

[serene siren]

You'll be able to overclock that red devil really easily on it

[next knot]

The gf1 850w psu does it come with the 3 connections needed for the gpus on 4.0 pci slots?

[serene siren]

I believe so

Can't say with certainty as I don't own one but I'm fairly sure it will

[next knot]

Thx

[dry sparrow]

If my pc has an estimated wattage of 630 will a 850x suffice

[serene siren]

What's your specs? 850x isn't the only good 850W out there

For example the thermaltake gf1 pe 850W regularly has been going on sale in the last few weeks which is in a similar tier of quality to the 850x

[dry sparrow]

Nah I alr have had the psu just askin cause I upgraded my gpu

[serene siren]

Ah ok fair enough. Rm850x is good

[dry sparrow]

Bet

[blissful thistle]

Rmx pog psu, among the best

[tropic dune]

i know ppl hate the white tax but Corsair RM750 for $99.99, yea or nay?

[next knot]

Should i be worried if gpu is 330mm long and case max gpu size is 340mm?

[serene siren]

nope

[fierce pivot]

Thermaltake gf1 snow 850w is like 105$

[bleak holly]

My Fractal Torrent finally arrived.

And my gosh, I question how this can be considered a "mid-tower'.

[serene siren]

it's eatx isn't it?

[past harbor]

Probably. Believe it or not Eatx isn't a true form factor. They can be various widths but generally 12 x 13 instead of 12 x 9.6 or w/e.

[bleak holly]

Yes.

[serene siren]

even still when I see an E-ATX case I think big

like O11 XL for example

you see a lot of cases advertised with that handle too

[sand atlas]

It's all marketing. "Mid tower", "full tower", "mini tower", none of it is defined. They just call it what they want according to the target market.

[bleak holly]

Ahhh that explains the tremendous size differrence.

And now I understand why y'all say the Fractal Torrent is massive.

Cause it's like 2x the size of my current mid-tower.

Which is a Deepcool 50.

[nimble zenith]

hello

my pc build says

Note: A USB 3.2 Gen 1 to USB 3.2 Gen 2 header adapter is required.

[elfin trout]

Most likely you have a case with USB c from io and your Mobo doesn't have the weird header

[craggy mirage]

Just read my emails, and totally forgot to tell me co-worker, not to bring their PC in today, As I called in sick. That's the HP they most likely fried with the bad Taser, charging with the USB port.

[cinder spade]

hello...I was wondering I could get some assistance with a bit of a problem I am having I recently purchased this pc tower https://www.rosewill.com/p/9SIA072HFC6228?seoLink=computer-cases&seoName=Computer Cases and I hooked up this mobo https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-b450-plus-gaming/.....the new tower comes with 4 argb fans and I want to make them run...the problem is I do not have the right pin connectors on the mobo for a 5 v hook up...the aura sync on it is set for 12v to run led strip lights...does anyone have a any ideas what I should buy to get the chassis fans to run?

[scenic lance]

So, I know you don't need any more fans, but this kit has the fan hub that is designed for Rosewill fans:
https://www.rosewill.com/rosewill-rgbf-17002-case-fan/p/9SIA072HNY1015?seoLink=case-fans&seoName=Case Fans
It just happens to come with two extra fans, and for $22 that is still not bad, and it would cover all of the fans you have in your case. Or, and this is what I would do since I don't really know the quality of Rosewill fans, I would get some of these:
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-co-9050072-ww-case-fan/p/N82E16835181130?quicklink=true
With this:
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cl-9011112-ww-black/p/N82E16811978029
That way you know you have good fans, and a good controller for them.

But that is just me.

[timid basin]

https://imgur.com/gallery/YW9qEJu

[fierce pivot]

Hmm but you also gotta remember it was the Nvidia adaptor that came in the box that was causing problems rather than the 12 pin straight from the psu

[timid basin]

that's the thing, he's testing those too

I start to have the feeling some others were right with saying Igor's sample was pre-production...

[serene siren]

Curious if we consider the ones that have come and gone by to be user error and just loud because new new new

Plenty of cable melting happens beyond this connector

As an nvidia rep said on reddit - "We've sold tens of thousands of these and seen maybe 20 melt"

On the other hand, not to be mean but I also sorta agree with this too

Not the rest of the comment but it's a fair point, not including whether or not it's truly seated

[timid basin]

he's fully correct saying that

[serene siren]

I know, I was getting caught up on it yesterday lol

Mega thread be big

[timid basin]

honestly, even assuming a 3-digit failure rate... that's 1%

for RMA, that's nothing

but I'm more interested in the testing than the title of course 😄

[serene siren]

Yeah true that

I'll be a guinea pig soon but with a cablemod one

[fierce pivot]

Don't burn your house down

Or do I'm not your mom

[serene siren]

Free nvidia adapter if john wants it fr @timid basin

Mine arrives 9th-12th apparently

[timid basin]

can always reach out to him via Reddit

haven't seen him on discord much lately

[fierce pivot]

"free" after shipping and taxes to the US it would probably be like 100$ kek

[timid basin]

grabs P-GM

[serene siren]

• grabs my p-gm in storage for real *

[fierce pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/csgo-c4-csgoc4-bomb-counter-strike-gif-15745242

[hollow leaf]

Just so I'm on the same page.. the people that had theirs catch fire was because they weren't connected all the way?

[timid basin]

I'm... not sure at this point

but I have a feeling there's more going on than that's currently known

[timid basin]

jokes on you, mine is on my desk

[hollow leaf]

Alright. Thank you for the info. Appreciate you.

[timid basin]

all good

[cinder spade]

@scenic lance thank you for that but those connectors on the rosewill case fan fit from the link you sent me have totally different pins that the fans that came with the case....I was able to talk with rosewill and they told me that I need to call back today as their "tech team" is from over seas and they would look into the problem....plus the fans I have are argb...not just rgb...I don't know the difference between the 2...maybe its the voltage?

[sand atlas]

Is it your space heater? A tiny fire pit?

[timid basin]

it was a birthday gift from another writer of the team

mind you, it's the 1kw

[blissful thistle]

I wonder if buying the pgm puts you on a government watch list

[elfin trout]

Aw the 1000w fixed it iirc

[inland prairie]

Anyone know why when i try taking out my psu screws yes im using a #2 philips head they just refuse too turn?

[fierce pivot]

Try a flathead instead?

[hidden thicket]

Decent 1000w psu. Moving cases and finally dropping sfx. Not trying to spend a WHOLE lot