cases-psu-and-cooling

[urban tulip]

Sounds like something that someone with a b450 that has it's vrms overheat with a 3600 would say 👀

(yes I know vrms aren't in the back of the board)

[fierce pivot]

Not overheat just very warm

[urban tulip]

You sound like asrock advertising their hdv b660 with a 12100f

[fierce pivot]

no

maybe

[mild roost]

hdv boards

ew

[urban tulip]

Hot
Dank
Virus

Aka, HDV

[mild roost]

lmao

[tame cape]

Problem: PSU whining (very light noise, at both idle and load.
If I turn off my PSU switch it keeps whining, even if I click my pc power sw (clearing capacitors from power) so the problem is on the power connector of the PSU...?

[fierce pivot]

You still hear whining from your psu when it's turned off?

That's impossible not the unit

Probably from something else like idk monitors psu maybe

[tame cape]

Yes I do hear the whine fronwhen PSU it's off but it stops if I remove the power cable from the PSU or the outlet

It's not the monitor ofc

[fierce pivot]

It's gotta be something else

[tame cape]

How? I disconnected everything, the sound it's obviously coming from the PSU, I tried two different PSU power cables....

And as I said: as soon as I unplug the power cable from the outlet or PSU it stops whining

I'll solve the problem with some sound-absorbing panels behind the pc

[tame cape]

It however gets slightly worse when PSU is under load because I can hear that it reduces when GPU goes from load to idle

[tame cape]

I'm able to remove most of the noise if I put sound absorbing panels like this ↓

(yes I keep using the desk from when I was 4yo) lol

[upbeat dew]

time to save for a better psu i guess

its easier and probably cheaper than your sound absorbing panels... i guess

[sand atlas]

If the whine is that annoying you can always RMA it

[fierce pivot]

Because if the psu is turned off there's nothing for it to make whine out of lol

[tame cape]

-RMA for me it's not an option, Amazon will just return my money and I'll have to buy the same PSU at the current price
-this problem may occur even on a different unit

[tame cape]

No, I've now covered with absorbing panels near my pc under the desk, it's now better, can barely hear it if there is no beckground noises

I had some cheap panels I don't even know where I found them

[limber knoll]

The noise can’t be that bad?

Well it’s time for a psu upgrade

[tame cape]

Not super bad but I'd give a 7/10 on a scale of how annoying it is without background noise

[upbeat dew]

7/10 is straight annoying

[sand atlas]

If it has a rectifier/filter before the physical switch that could be it

[upbeat dew]

btw model of the psu? just for research purposes

[fierce pivot]

Ah

[tame cape]

My brother also said it could be the problem, he knows a bit about electronics
Meanwhile I know almost nothing

[tame cape]

MSI a650gf

Ive always wondered if the product warranty is the same if you buy from Amazon warehouse
For example, my MSI PSU has a 10y product warrant and I bought it from a Amazon wh. Will I still get the 10year MSI warranty?

[sand atlas]

Was it sold new?

And do you have the receipt?

[tame cape]

Used - perfect conditions

[sand atlas]

You'll have to check the exact terms of the warranty then

[fierce pivot]

should be able to get a replacement thats a good unit

[knotty mesa]

It’s technically not “off” because there’s 5VSB

[barren oriole]

if i were to get an EVGA GA psu, would the cables from my B5 550w unit be compatible with it

[urban tulip]

yea

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=101-CK-0850-B9

evga themselves sells a kit which works with like a ton

[barren oriole]

my b5 is geniunely dying

its pain

[urban tulip]

and cablemods is confirming theyre same cable

so yeah

[barren oriole]

cant run my 1080+7700k at tdp

[urban tulip]

💀

why ga tho

atleast go gt

[barren oriole]

price

[urban tulip]

its like $5

[barren oriole]

and also im goiong gt IF this seller can provide proof of purchase and date

[urban tulip]

ah ok

what watt?

[barren oriole]

42$ for the full 850w unit without cables, still in warranty (3y left) and its not registered

[urban tulip]

damn thats pretty good

[barren oriole]

i just need the warranty in case anything goes wrong with this unit

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304570565270?epid=9045264744&hash=item46e9d20296:g:4sIAAOSwz9Zi2PQ~

should i just

send it?

oh wait i dont think my unit is compatible with gt cable wise

[urban tulip]

kinda weird they have 3

[barren oriole]

probs a mining op

i dont care if it was mined on as its not going to damage the unit, im more concerned about if theyre just trying to ditch faulting ones

[urban tulip]

yeah

[barren oriole]

which is why i want the warranty

[urban tulip]

mhmm

[barren oriole]

i think my b5 cables are compatible

[urban tulip]

i think so aswell

[barren oriole]

if i cant get a warranty status, id trust a used A tier psu thana used b tier, however cables for it are going to be expensive

nzxt C750 for 40 bux but i dont have the cables for it

[urban tulip]

cablemods sells the same exact cable sets for both gt850 and b5 550

[barren oriole]

i need this seller to respond asap

i'll rma this one after a enw psu and put it in my server

[serene siren]

Is evga b stock still selling the 850 for 50?

Ima check

[barren oriole]

dont think so

[serene siren]

Yeah just looked, it's not, sadge

[tame cape]

Isn't that for stand by? I guess the entire unit, every voltage line should be completely off when the PSU switch is off

[timid basin]

5vsb is a separate circuit for standby, yep

but it's off when the unit is fully switched off

@tame cape try a different cable

only thing I can think of by now is a loose cable

[tame cape]

doesnt change.

[urban tulip]

Try a different outlet maybe? Very unlikely but may as well

[mighty dawn]

has anyone ever bought a ibuypower pc i had mine running for about 30 mins played apex just to test her out everything ran good and all of a sudden it turned off and the power supply made a click sound and now i just have no power is that common with these things lol

newegg is sending me a new one (what should i do before plugging it in) ??

[sharp lintel]

Ibuypower is generally a pretty bad brand

They really cheap out on power supplys

[sand atlas]

And cases
And memory
And cooler

[urban tulip]

Better than Nzxt with the s12iii in their kits lmfao

Tbf

[tame cape]

My PSU sometimes decides to not whine, now it doesn't whine for most of the time, no need for another unit

Nice

Whenever it whines now it makes a lighter sound than before

[blissful thistle]

Anyone heard of the inwin a1 plus?

I'm getting one in a trade, and it looks terrible but apparently it's expensive

[upbeat dew]

gn have a video about that one

[blissful thistle]

also would a vega 56 flashed to 64 be fine to pair with a 3600 build possibly either to sell or give/sell to a friend or family member?

[fierce pivot]

Tier list goes
Fractal, corsair, phanteks, lian li
Cougar
Motherboard box, wooden desk
Inwin
Metal desk, carpet

[blissful thistle]

for gaming

[fierce pivot]

Sure?

[blissful thistle]

lmao, so it's as bad as i thought

[blissful thistle]

i don't know anything about vega cards, i've no clue if theyre gaming cards or workstation

[lofty pewter]

Metal desk, carpet...
Dell/Alienware
MSI, NZXT
Abkoncore

[fierce pivot]

Honestly don't know much about em either

[sharp lintel]

U sure, most of them come with thermaltake smarts and n1’s

[sand atlas]

Vega are intended for gaming, that's what a lot of the AMD iGPUs have been based on

[blissful thistle]

Oh really, that makes a lot more sense. Just thought they shared a name

Idk why I never realized that lmao

[lofty pewter]

Tho Vega 56/64 was based on GCN 5.0 which had great compute perf iirc. Depending on the workload one was doing, it could've been a great workstation card for the time (esp given the price).

[blissful thistle]

Would it be worth using, or better to sell and get something else do you think?

Getting one in the same trade as the case

[sand atlas]

The Vega 64 is roughly equal to the 6600 while using more power

[blissful thistle]

Does the 56 flashed to 64 perform the same, or just similar?

Seems they're selling for like 225-275 on ebay

[lofty pewter]

V56 will be slightly slower due to less TMUs. Can't remember exact perf difference tho.

[rustic sun]

To change to a different psu with a different company, do I have to also have to remove all old cables related to the older psu and replace them with the new cables? I heard that psu cables may not be universal

And does that include sata cables for ssds? Or are those more universal

[sand atlas]

The odds are very strong that the cables need to be swapped between brands yes.

The data cables are universal, but not the power

[rustic sun]

Okay sounds good thanks, I hope I didn’t fry anything yet cuz I didn’t swap them at first

[sand atlas]

Fingers crossed

A good PSU would know if there's a problem and shut off

[rustic sun]

Yeah nothing turned on

Okay it still works after I replaced it with the original cables, phew

But dayum, it’s a pain in the butt to do this all over again, it’s practically building a new pc lol

[hollow leaf]

Fun isn't it :P

[rustic sun]

Yup lol

[ripe raptor]

anyone available to help me with a weird issue?

[urban tulip]

!ask

[minor portal]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[blissful thistle]

Question, that I'm sure I already know the answer to

How bad are inwin psus

[neat relic]

I have Drgb fans, will they work with this connector?

[sand atlas]

Yes, drgb=a-rgb, just a different name for the same thing

[blissful thistle]

@timid basin slightly stupid question

anything to say about inwin psus?

i got a free case that came with a 650w psu

and curious about it

[timid basin]

they have a few decent units with Andyson and Highpower

[blissful thistle]

any way i can tell which one it is?

google isnt helpful

[timid basin]

if you tell me the model number of the unit, I can try

or the case that it came with

(if it's an official bundle)

[blissful thistle]

its an inwin a1 plus

afaik its the psu the case came with

[timid basin]

Andyson F8/GX/H6

[blissful thistle]

case is ass, i know that much

[timid basin]

decent unit, though nothing especially high end

platform was also used on a variation of Rosewill Capstone and Lepton, as well as two Gamdias units (Astrape P1 and Kratos P1)

[blissful thistle]

useable for mid end builds?

also ty

[timid basin]

Yeah, totally

But Andyson can make better than it these days

Sadly... They don't have a big vendor to support them right now

[blissful thistle]

wonder if i can figure out anything to use it for

[timid basin]

Corsair had to choose HEC over them

[blissful thistle]

maybe my friends build im going to help them with later this year

[timid basin]

While making them invest a ton of money to even be ready to accept them

Yeah, that works

[blissful thistle]

def not the case though lmao

only mesh is enough room for a back exhaust and two bottom

wait this is super weird

the psu is mounted top right, but the outlet for it is on the bottom left

is that normal for itx cases?

[sand atlas]

Yes that's normal, there's probably a passthrough wire

[blissful thistle]

yeah i think there is, atleast im assuming thats what it is

[urban tulip]

Maybe it'll be EVGA next time they pick the OEM name out of a hat

[timid basin]

Andyson and EVGA are done

same with Seasonic

and HEC

GT, GA and G6 have been discontinued

that's why they were so cheap lately

[urban tulip]

What's next for EVGA then?

Cause it's not like they can really go back to SF lol

[timid basin]

More FSP

[urban tulip]

More g5 "successors", great

I'm sooooo excited

😐

[upbeat dew]

just graba g6 while they last 😄

i feel bad for cheaping on mine 😦

850 instead of a 1000

[timid basin]

FSP can do better than that with the right guidance

but I have my doubts with EVGA being the one

but no, it's nothing like the G5

[urban tulip]

xD hopefully

if evga cant even keep their good oems, they wont give a damn about micro-managing another one

[elfin trout]

Train FSP to become SF

[timid basin]

SF is overrated

[elfin trout]

better to have an overrated decent oem than an underrated bad oem

[timid basin]

FSP can make amazing stuff with the right guidance

just look at the majority of BeQuiet units

[elfin trout]

Yea, so they just need to be trained to become a more consistent OEM in terms of the products they put out

[timid basin]

you realise that FSP is bigger than Superflower and Seasonic combined?

they're stubborn, but can make really nice stuff

[elfin trout]

Yea, that's the only real reason EVGA would stick to them instead of SF imo

More capacity and all

And I assume more flexibility with more lines

[timid basin]

not really

I expect it just them not paying for work

[urban tulip]

i hope the next fsp/evga units turn out crap, so all the old guys on the forums cant keep just reccomending a "good unit like a evga". next up, we need to take down seasonic >:P

[timid basin]

eh, we'll see

they did make something really high power density

so this can go a few different ways

[urban tulip]

just so sad how little innovation is going on with psus in general

[elfin trout]

I dunno, it felt like EVGA was just scraping the barrel for whatever OEMs they could find whenever they want to make a new unit, and therefore having to turn to like SF, HEC, Andyson, Seasonic, etc for every other unit, if they could just find 1 big OEM that could accommodate those different lines, it would make life simpler, and FSP fills those boxes.

[timid basin]

eh, I've heard some rumors here and there

but we'll see how it turns out

the platform itself looks interesting

just a bit overly dense for an ATX unit

I prefer taking a bit more space and making the unit more quiet

for example what CM recently did with XHY

[elfin trout]

btw, do you think its possible for any PSU manufacturers to partner with Noctua? Or would it just be too much volume for Noctua to handle and just not worthwhile for the PSU manufacturers to pay the premium on the fan?

[timid basin]

if Noctua wants to, they totally could

but why would they?

the highest end you'll see in PSUs is Nidec, Delta and Sunon

which is already brutally expensive to do

[elfin trout]

Like the one thing I feel like with the Noctua 3080 for example is relatively low volume and high price premium

Is it? I thought delta was one of the cheaper options?

[timid basin]

it's also the most quiet 3080 on the market

Delta is... not cheap

not as expensive as Nidec and Sunon

[elfin trout]

I know about Nidec, but not familiar with Sunon

[timid basin]

but definitely not as cheap as say Yate Loon

Sunon makes meglev fans

[elfin trout]

oem for corsair or smth?

[timid basin]

Corsair, Phanteks, Asus

[elfin trout]

Interesting

[timid basin]

T30 is Sunon too

[elfin trout]

That makes more sense

[elfin trout]

By the way, any specific PSUs with Nidec fans? I don't feel like its ever advertised or stands out. In general, do PSU OEMs go for 'high end' fans for warranty? (Advertise 10 years or smth) or for the noise?

[timid basin]

I only know one on the consumer market

being the Cybercore

but most use less known brands

[elfin trout]

oh I didn't even realize xpg made a new psu

[timid basin]

stuff like HongHua, Globe, Yate Loon, Poweryear, Champion, Everflow, Adda, Delta, HongShen and so on

[timid basin]

yeah, another variation of CWT CST

[urban tulip]

atleast cybercore is a better name than core reactor, lol

[elfin trout]

ngl I like core reactor as a name better lol

core reactor referring to the power plant of the PC makes sense

[urban tulip]

yeah

[elfin trout]

Cybercore is just fancy name

[urban tulip]

nuclear inspired, i get it

[elfin trout]

With all these random cheap fan options, what usually differentiates them? Like are the companies known for some specializing in cheap sleeve fans, cheap dbb fans, etc, or is it just PSU OEMs going for the cheapest fan?

[timid basin]

it's mainly the PSU OEM generally having their own partners in that regard

[elfin trout]

Also, out of curiosity, how big is the fanless/passive market for consumers? Was it just a fad that had already passed, and just sought after for servers?

[timid basin]

unless specifically requested otherwise, they generally just use that

[timid basin]

small

and server PSUs are generally actively cooled

[elfin trout]

I thought passive was a feature more sought after for servers than for consumers, being something that might actually help for reliability reasons

[elfin trout]

So the fan company just lands a contract with the OEM and the OEM requests certain fans be made, instead of just buying batches of specific models of fans?

[timid basin]

they generally work with one or a few partners in general

for example a lot of CWT units use HongHua

same with Seasonic

while Andyson uses a lot of Poweryear

[elfin trout]

Is it the same fan across multiple units or a different fan for specific unit, like would CWT GPU and CWT CST platforms use the same fan? (Like would honghua make a higher performance fan for one platform and a worse cheaper one for another platform?)

[timid basin]

they can, but aren't guaranteed to

especially with CST this is visible

but CST has... a lot of variation

[elfin trout]

?

I just thought it was their 'standard' plat platform

[hybrid robin]

thoughts on seasonic focus plus series psu?

[sand atlas]

They can be good but they can also really hate high end GPUs, and they can also be bad

[hybrid robin]

its 11600k and 3060 build

i was getting 750w

[fierce pivot]

What country and why 11600k?

[hybrid robin]

someone recommended it to him and decided to buy it right away

canada

well cant do much anyways but thats the main components

so just wondering if the seasonic was good and reliable

so should i get a different one instead?

if he didnt buy it right awsy i was planning 12400f and 3060

[fierce pivot]

Should see if they can return imo

Lemme have a look for Canada

[hybrid robin]

its past 14days

so hes saving up for a 3060 and other components

[fierce pivot]

@hybrid robin would get this
https://www.newegg.ca/corsair-tx-m-series-tx750m-750w/p/N82E16817139208

[hybrid robin]

what about supernova 650w?

[fierce pivot]

Meh and poor price

If you wanna spend a bit less, antec high current gamer

[hybrid robin]

currently on 89$(cad)

[fierce pivot]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/fndxFT/antec-high-current-gamer-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-hcg650-gold

[hybrid robin]

aight thanks 🙂

[fierce pivot]

Np

[upbeat dew]

but 650 will be enough for a 3080?

[fierce pivot]

Twill not

But tis not an issue

[upbeat dew]

oh, right, i saw the whole chat 😛 i tho that was for him

[dusk galleon]

Lookin to replace a...what is it

H510?

Yeah

Any cheaper recommendations?

[elfin trout]

How much was it?

[serene siren]

Cougar mx-330-G air

Unless tall tower cooler

A 510 is ok with a 5600 and rx 6600 tho

[dusk galleon]

Well not cheaper then the case itself

Just not a super expensive case

I think the H510 was like $70

[serene siren]

Bitfenix nova mesh, Fara R1, go up a bit higher you'd be looking at like, P360A, G360A or 4000D AF

[dusk galleon]

I know it's gonna be a pain to move everything over tho

My Temps are probably higher then usual due to the heat wave

According to MSI during games I'm usually hitting the 60-65 degree mark

[serene siren]

Vs a h510 you'll probably be lower

[elfin trout]

Tbf it's not that bad at all

[serene siren]

Ye

Would consider it if the gpu hotspot was up in the 95+ range and if the cpu was also in the 90's

[elfin trout]

I'd say cut off point around 80c because throttling

Typically stops boosting beyond like 70c

[dusk galleon]

I dunno whether to trust msi or task manager

[elfin trout]

Hwinfo64

[dusk galleon]

Task manager usually gives higher Temps

[serene siren]

Hotspot not core

[elfin trout]

I usually go by just core

[serene siren]

[dusk galleon]

I know if I ever get a higher power card

It probably won't fair well in a H510

[serene siren]

Probably not no

6700xt at least

[dusk galleon]

My gpu only pulls some 100 watts

Probably why the Temps aren't too high

[serene siren]

Ye 100W usually

Is it a 2 or 3 fan?

[dusk galleon]

My GPU?

[serene siren]

Ye

[dusk galleon]

I think 2 fan

Have to check rq

[serene siren]

Pretty good tbh

[dusk galleon]

Yeah 2 fan

It's the SWFT 6600

All their cards look the exact same

For some reason

[serene siren]

You can use adrenalin to check these temps btw

It gives hotspot as junction

You keep that one under 95 to avoid any possible issues long-term iirc

Downclocking and throttling hits at 110C

[dusk galleon]

If my 6600 hits 110c

That's a different issue

[soft basin]

For some reason I have cruel intentions, I want to stuff a new X670 into my old favorite case

[dusk galleon]

Interesting looking case

[soft basin]

Yeah but it's old, originally it had a Asus Sabertooth S Z97 mobo in it, but I pawned that off on the 5-7 year olds

[dusk galleon]

I'm more into bland cases but I see the appeal

[soft basin]

Gave my 7800X3D powered Asus TUF Gaming Plus WiFi all the love money could buy

[dusk galleon]

Mine is pretty bland

To say the least

No rgb

All gray and black

[soft basin]

Lol I dropped rgb kits as bloatware only to buy case controlled rgb

[dusk galleon]

All black ram

Because

Why not

[soft basin]

Ah like Team Group

I had like two pairs one set died so I bought new set

[serene siren]

I approve of this

[soft basin]

And so the faulty pair of Team Group black sticks are basically my distop clutter

They are next to the rubber gloves and screw box on the left. n

No gaming keyboards where harmed in my attempt of making Japanese style Ramen in the center of this picture

[serene siren]

Ah older vengeance. Before it went bad

Me like

[past harbor]

Was even betteractually good farther back.

[serene siren]

Ah old dom plats

[sand atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-i-member-memberberries-south-park-i-remember-oh-yeah-gif-20408218

[hollow leaf]

That factory film is bugging me.

[fierce pivot]

Crimes worse than murder :

[dusk galleon]

Why does best buy not show cables

[blissful thistle]

This is a terrible psu

[dusk galleon]

Assumed

Damn you best buy

Seems a bit better

Can't tell if it's 8 pin or 6 pin

Hold on

[blissful thistle]

There is a tier list pinned in #cases-psu-and-cooling

The cxm is C tier, not a good buy

The GT 750 is a good psu, it's $61 on amazon rn

[dusk galleon]

I cannot tell what GPU power cables it is why is Amazon listings so low quality

Also it is very annoying when gpu listings don't say the pin layout

[sand atlas]

You can always refer to the techpowerup database

[upbeat dew]

you can always look for more web pages

relying on only one page for review is not a smart move

heck, even youtube videos

[dusk galleon]

I've heard the 400d case is good

They have it local

[blissful thistle]

G360a better buy imo

[dusk galleon]

I'll see if it's local

[blissful thistle]

Why does it have to be local?

[dusk galleon]

Parents got me a best buy gift card

[blissful thistle]

Ah

[dusk galleon]

So might as well

[blissful thistle]

4000d airflow prolly your best option then

[dusk galleon]

I mean it looks nice

[blissful thistle]

It's def a good case

G360a just a bit better

[dusk galleon]

These are the only options

[upbeat dew]

airflow

[blissful thistle]

Easy choice then

[upbeat dew]

no brainer there

[dusk galleon]

Best buy in rural area damn you

[upbeat dew]

4000x is terrible and 510 even worse

[dusk galleon]

They just look ew

I know looks aren't everything

[upbeat dew]

function over form

unless you have the cash to spare

[dusk galleon]

But it looks like they'd suffocate my card if I look away for 5 minutes

[upbeat dew]

4000d have plenty of airflow

and the 6600 is a relative chill card

[dusk galleon]

I just like "black box nothing special" looking cases

[upbeat dew]

unlike a 3080, that one is an oven on itself

[dusk galleon]

A 6600 should fit fine

I mean in the H510 there's still alot of space

2 fan card

Looks so dinky

[upbeat dew]

then no brainer

4000d

[sand atlas]

There's a reason we have the h510 emoji

[dusk galleon]

Dunno if this would fit in the 4000d

[blissful thistle]

It isn't a great psu

The gt 750 is $61, or the g6 850 is $105

Or the gt 850 is $90, just a bit worse than the g6

[dusk galleon]

Ain't at best buy I think

I can order but rather go in store

[blissful thistle]

Why does it have to be from best buy

You wait two days for much better quality

[dusk galleon]

Mainly because I got a card for my bday

[blissful thistle]

Aren't you already buying the case

How much is the card

[dusk galleon]

$100

Yeah

[blissful thistle]

Then the case will use that whole card

[dusk galleon]

Would the gt 750 fit in the 4000d

[blissful thistle]

Yes

Keep in mind next gen gpus will have new pcie power connectors

And new psu specs

[fierce pivot]

For psus would go
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/J9drxr/evga-supernova-gt-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-gt-0750-y1
Or
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7pmP6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-1

Shessh tho 61$ for gt 750

[dusk galleon]

I mean I'm hoping that when the new cards come out

The 3070/6700xt Era drops in price

[fierce pivot]

Nvm pcpp lying Amazon saying 92$

[dusk galleon]

Lol

Thermal take has the 2 8 pin connectors

Dunno about the EVGa

Probably better for Thermaltake tho

Cheaper and more power

While still being modular

[fierce pivot]

It should take have 3x8 pin

[dusk galleon]

Maybe I'm reading the wrong thing

[fierce pivot]

Eps isn't 8 pin it's 4+4 pin eps is cpu

That's kinda bad on pcpp's part

[dusk galleon]

Yeah I'm just not good at readin this kind of stuff

[fierce pivot]

8 pin is usually referred to pcie (6+2)

[dusk galleon]

My b

[fierce pivot]

No worries

[dusk galleon]

The second row then?

12 sata connectors lol

[fierce pivot]

Yes

[dusk galleon]

My 12 ssds let's go

[fierce pivot]

Probably 2 sata with 6 daisy chain

[dusk galleon]

I've seen that alot

Yeah

I only use one ssd rn anyway

[fierce pivot]

Or 3 sata with 4 daisy chain

[dusk galleon]

Yeah

One nvme and one ssd

I am too impatient for hard drives

[dusk galleon]

Will either one of those PSU's fit in the 4000d?

Not sure

That's the case I'm gettin

[blissful thistle]

Literally any psu will fit in the 4000d

Maybe that's an exaggeration, probably some exceptions I don't know about

[dusk galleon]

Obscure Chinese psu

I win

[dusk galleon]

Both of these look good

I assume to go with the thermaltake

[minor portal]

Keitherette#1994 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dusk galleon]

Wha

[minor portal]

Keitherette#1994 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Keitherette#1994 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[dusk galleon]

Okay that's stupid

Posted the link and it gave me a bad word warning

a pc part picker link

[blissful thistle]

That happened to me the other day lol

It prolly has either a slur or cuss word in the link

Mine had a slur in it

[dusk galleon]

[blissful thistle]

Yeah

There's a slur in there

Also technichally (?) Bypassing filter so prolly delete it

[dusk galleon]

Nice one pc part picker

But yeah

Thermaltake probably a better buy

Thermaltake and the 4000d

That a good combo for the rebuild?

Both are not too expensive

I do like the fully modular, my main issue with pc building is cables

[fierce pivot]

Yes considering gt 750w is actually 92 not 61$

[dusk galleon]

And the Thermaltake is cheaper

Weird that pc part picker prices it wrong

850 watts will probably be better in the long run

"Guys it's future proof" then immediately get shot

[fierce pivot]

Probably 1 3rd party seller or something

[dusk galleon]

One single seller who sold it used

Why is it stuff like cpus and PSUs rarely need replacing yet GPUs age so much faster

PSUs have like a 10 year warranty

[sand atlas]

Graphics in games are advancing faster than AI and physics, so the trend has been an increase in GPU load a lot more than CPU

[dusk galleon]

This is why half life alxy still uses quake lighting

So, 4000d and thermaltake will be fine together?

[blissful thistle]

Yes, otherwise we would not suggest them

[dusk galleon]

Guys how does an i5 3470 sound with a 3090ti

I think it will go well

[sand atlas]

Sounds like a good way to keep it from shutting off from transient load since the GPU won't hit 30% usage

[dusk galleon]

🙏

[blissful thistle]

My old 3470 bottlenecked my 1030 in bo3 lol

[dusk galleon]

Lmao

[blissful thistle]

So seems pretty balanced

[dusk galleon]

I assume BO3 lighting was the issue

Game has some funky lighting

[blissful thistle]

Playing bo3 for the first time when I got my new pc was amazing

Went from low settings 50fps to maxed out 144fps

[dusk galleon]

That's how I felt lmao

Bronze, silver and gold are just psu ratings right?

[blissful thistle]

Yes, they mean nothing as to quality

There's Plat psus I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole

[dusk galleon]

What does gold mean?

[blissful thistle]

Efficiency

[dusk galleon]

Just assume higher efficiency then bronze

Yea

[blissful thistle]

Though the only one I wouldn't touch is white rated

Since those 99% of the time are cheaply made and terrible

[dusk galleon]

That's a rating?

Never seen em

[blissful thistle]

Like the Thermaltake smart

[dusk galleon]

Maybe I'm lucky

[blissful thistle]

You were looking at one earlier

[dusk galleon]

Ah

I got a good Thermaltake

I think

[blissful thistle]

.

[dusk galleon]

You know you can just make a blank message right

_ _

Lol

[sand atlas]

Efficiency rating has very little to do with actual quality of the unit. There's gold rated units that literally explode.

[blissful thistle]

Isn't that a better discord feature

[dusk galleon]

No

It's just

__

Put a space between the two

[blissful thistle]

_ _

I see

[dusk galleon]

It's dumb

[sand atlas]

Will it work if I italicize a space?

Nope

[dusk galleon]

Weird

The Thermaltake I got has good reviews tho

And someone here sent it

[sand atlas]

That's a lot more work than just a period anyway

[elfin trout]

you can do better blank message :p

[dusk galleon]

I'll pick the 4000D up from best buy tomorrow

[sand atlas]

~.~

[dusk galleon]

_ _

Lmak

[sand atlas]

Can't strike through a space or period either

[dusk galleon]

It's the blank message

But the strike

_ _

_ _

That

First time with a modular psu

Will hopefully go well

[sand atlas]

They're super nice to have, no rats nest of unused cables in the basement

[dusk galleon]

I hate the 6 pin hanging off my GPU lol

That's tied by a zip tie

Just an eye sore

[sand atlas]

Cut it

[dusk galleon]

Saw it off

Chew it I dunno

The 4000d looks really nice

[rustic sun]

Any recommended sturdy, cpu/tower stands if I want to place my desktop on the floor? I’m looking on amazon for budget friendly ones but all the bad reviews keep saying they’re all cheaply made

[limber knoll]

If u have carpet just use a plank of wood or something

If not u can just place it on the floor

https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Mid-Tower-Micro-ATX-Mini-ITX/dp/B085KMWW15/ref=mp_s_a_1_29_sspa?

This looks like a nice sleeper pc but pretty sure there r bett cases

[blissful thistle]

mx330

[dusk galleon]

Ngl I just use a monitor stand

Works

[serene siren]

[dusk galleon]

Lmao its dumb

But these monitor stands are sturdy

[serene siren]

👀

[rustic sun]

Ohh ty

[dusk galleon]

Yeah that was some dumb screw kit i got really mad at

[serene siren]

ok

It triggers my ocd a bit but I'll live

[dusk galleon]

https://a.co/d/0mXEsXV

This is it

Dinky thing

If you spend $4 you get silver, how fancy

It's basic as hell but for a smaller system it's fine

[rustic sun]

haha for sure, appreciate it!

[hollow leaf]

You also save 20% on the black one if you check the coupon.

[vagrant lantern]

i just plug this 8 pin to a 6 pin will this work?

[fierce pivot]

It will either be 6+2 pin or sounds like you're shoving a cpu power connector in it

[serene siren]

he's putting a 2x sata to pcie into it

[vagrant lantern]

its not a 6+2

[upbeat dew]

as i told you on the video card channel, your gpu probably cant handle the adapter

[vagrant lantern]

before i burn my gpu i just wanna ask

[upbeat dew]

270 barely cut it as a psu

[serene siren]

i'm not gonna guarantee it will work with that cable

[upbeat dew]

thats why that psu dont have a gpu connector

is a very low unit

very very low

[vagrant lantern]

i used it on a gtx 960 it works and can run games

[serene siren]

again, still not guaranteeing anything there lol

[fierce pivot]

Oh god

[upbeat dew]

well do it at your own risk, no one here will advice you to that

you should try to get a 400+ psu at the bare minimum, to get a real pcie connector instead of an adapter

very low power units dont have that connector for a reason

[serene siren]

like a $40 asus tuf 450w

[fierce pivot]

That's because 960 uses an avg of 100w so barely under 2 x sata maximum power

[upbeat dew]

they are meant for office cpus that dont rely on discrete gpus

[vagrant lantern]

now i gonna use a lower tdp gpu

like 80w

[fierce pivot]

What gpu?

[vagrant lantern]

also theres 75w from the pcie

[upbeat dew]

the sata adapter can suck 50w only

[fierce pivot]

Pcie lane almost never actually supplies a full 75w

[upbeat dew]

you will have a hot adapter

[vagrant lantern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4lp1nxQSCQ&t=460s&ab_channel=DawidDoesTechStuff\

[fierce pivot]

Cards usually choose to pull from pcie power instead

[vagrant lantern]

this is my im using it

[upbeat dew]

and the sata adapter can pull 50w only, not 75 like the real pci power plug

the wiring inside the psu is different

[fierce pivot]

Bro just pay 40$ for an okay psu, he ran this for what a few hours max?

[upbeat dew]

thing is, you can plug it but no one here will recommend that, but, you do you man

[fierce pivot]

Pcie 6 pin is supposed to supply 75 but 8 pin 150

[upbeat dew]

and the sata 50

you are trying to pluig a sata adapater

not a real pcie connector

if the card decide to pull more from the pci adapter it will make your adapter real hot

the wiring inside the psu is not meant for that kind of power on the sata circuit

[serene siren]

I mean I get trying not to spend much on an optiplex but you should never drag a higher power gpu into one without fixing/checking the psu is good first

we say that for most pc's that people seek help with in here. PSU is such an important factor

[past harbor]

Usually sata is 50w per cable, so idk. Of course I still don't suggest it also.

[vagrant lantern]

bro 2x 50 is > 80

[upbeat dew]

in fact, psu is the one thing you cant cheap on your rig

[serene siren]

not the point

[upbeat dew]

lool

[fierce pivot]

[upbeat dew]

is not about the cable

[serene siren]

i'm worried about the connectors and the rail more

[upbeat dew]

is about the circuit inside the psu

[serene siren]

exactly

[upbeat dew]

the circuit inside the cpu cant provide more than 50 on the sata cirucit

[fierce pivot]

Yeah the sata thing is fine for like a 1050 ti

[upbeat dew]

if you card decide to pull more then your psu will be in trouble

pcie connector on the psu have a different circuit, designed for the power hungry gpus

[fierce pivot]

Also this only applies if it's seperate sata cables from the psu not 1 daisy chain like it probably is

[serene siren]

or alternatively, take the 6500xt back and stick a 75W* 1650 into it

preferably 2nd hand

[vagrant lantern]

i have a rx 550

but the horse power on that thing is like sh!

[upbeat dew]

just, dont cheap on the psu, its the most important thing on the pc. a bad psu or not enough power psu could power down at the very best or damage your internal hardware at the very worst

and dont use those adapters, you are literally playing with fire

[vagrant lantern]

i for got to tell u that this pc cost me only 55 $

[upbeat dew]

if your gpu for some reason try to pull more power and the cable start to get hot then you will risk a fire insde the rig and bye bye anything inside

[serene siren]

still missing the point that it's dangerous

Our recommendation isn't really gonna shift here

[serene siren]

I missed this.

[vagrant lantern]

wish me luck

[serene siren]

@fierce pivot daisy chain 💀

[past harbor]

All I'm thinking is that case might be $5worth of aluminum.

[upbeat dew]

[fierce pivot]

Daisy chain means you only practically have 1 connector so a solid 54w

[fierce pivot]

[vagrant lantern]

I got 2

[serene siren]

ok ima just watch now

[fierce pivot]

Mkay

[vagrant lantern]

worked

[upbeat dew]

now load the card, go play some games

idle will be ok

[sand atlas]

Aluminum is too expensive, probably low grade anodized steel

[vagrant lantern]

nvm i cant even get the video out

[upbeat dew]

e_e

told ya

[vagrant lantern]

nothing burned

[upbeat dew]

not enough power

[serene siren]

hopefully you didn't damage the card by plugging in something that wasn't even intended to be used like that

[sand atlas]

It falling to work was the best result here possible

[upbeat dew]

you were lucky indeed

[sand atlas]

Permanent damage was a worse option

Fire was the worst

[upbeat dew]

again

lesson here is: dont cheap out on the psu

is the most important part of any rig

feel bad for the psu tho, its been pushed to its very limits 😦 poor little thing 😦

[vagrant lantern]

its was a driver issue

[serene siren]

I even watched that dawid video and he made full disclosure that he also thought it was a bad idea

[upbeat dew]

yeah you do you man, we cant advice you more

you want to do your thing, just go ahead

you looked for advice, we gave you advice and still you went your own way... nothing more we can do

literally 6 ppl here advising you against that

w/e

[fierce pivot]

Yeah tdlr: it worked i did this so you don't have to or if you have something like a dumb 1650 with external power that shouldn't kinda think

[vagrant lantern]

bro i so stupid

my pc is nto booting

bc the graphic card pushed the ram out

[fierce pivot]

How?

[vagrant lantern]

im stupid u know

its working

[fierce pivot]

Inb4 gen 3 system

[vagrant lantern]

better than the 960 that i have

[serene siren]

it's a 3rd gen intel pato

too late

[fierce pivot]

[vagrant lantern]

its running bf 5 great

[hollow leaf]

I can't believe the stupidity.

How you gonna throw away advice of 6 people who know way more than you literally telling you what not to do?

"Hey bro, don't touch that live 240v wire, it can kill you."

"I'll be fine, don't worry about it."

[mild roost]

inb4 a week later he comes back with a melted cable

[hollow leaf]

Inb4 he comes back asking why his GPU doesn't work. Why his PSU is smoking. Why his whole house caught fire and burned down and he lost all his stuff.

[mild roost]

[dusk galleon]

So uh

Im swapping the cases

And like

This instruction booklet sucks

????

Says nothing about what screws to use

The bags are not labeled

I feel extremely stupid for not knowing

[sudden charm]

the mobo screws?

[dusk galleon]

Yeah

Would it be fine to use My old MB screws? From the H510?

They thread into the headers fine

I think lemme test

[sudden charm]

yeah

[dusk galleon]

Seems to thread fine

[upbeat dew]

time to reach for youtube my man

these days youtube have a thousand videos for everything

[dusk galleon]

Any of the 4000d videos I found didn't say what screws are what

And the corsair manual ain't exactly good

[sudden charm]

I think it's universal for the mobo

[fierce pivot]

The screws say what they are in the front of the manual

[upbeat dew]

x18

Mbd ones (mbd means motherboard)

even my 5000x have those

[dusk galleon]

This is just really stressing me out and idk why

[upbeat dew]

cause you are not taking your time

and you are trying to rush things

the manual is your best friend

[dusk galleon]

I am not rushing

I just can't tell what it even is because the bags are not labeled

[fierce pivot]

Count em

[upbeat dew]

plus the figures in the manual matches the screw type

all the bags have different screw types

lol yeah, i have 18 on my photo

way to go c*rsair!

[dusk galleon]

This is strangly tiring and idk why

Ugh

Plugging in USB c sucks

Hate this angle

Always feels so flimsy

do I really need it

[fierce pivot]

Nope your front usb c just wont work

Also that cable management thing is removable btw

Iirc

[dusk galleon]

I don't use front USB c anyway

lol

Besides that everything case related

Is in

Time for the worst part

Psu

[fierce pivot]

Psu is fine tbh

[dusk galleon]

I DID IT

And it idles 10° cooler despite being much hotter out

You cannot understand how happy I am

Slight issue tho

Legs are too long to rest on my damn pc monitor stand

That's whatever tho I can probably find something else to prop her up on

[dusk galleon]

When I didn't have modular it was a pain for me first time

Modular made it 10x easier

Still funny how it even idles cooler despite it being much hotter out then when I last tested it

[fierce pivot]

Confusion

Do you use pc horizontally under your monitor

[dusk galleon]

No like

My pc used to sit on this

The H510 had its legs closer

The 4000d airflow legs are at the two ends of the Case

So it can't fit

[fierce pivot]

Oh just put it on the floor?

[dusk galleon]

Guess so for now

Until I can hold both ends up

[upbeat dew]

computer... off... floor D:

[urban tulip]

Im putting mine right on my high-pile carpet just for the funny now

[upbeat dew]

[sand atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/triggered-triggering-intensifies-rage-gif-15297552

[soft basin]

@hollow leafthere are at least 7 of 12 children in the household that enjoy dirty fingerprints on glass.

[hollow leaf]

HAHA, I get that.

Nice 4 day later response 😄

[sand atlas]

What could go wrong? https://www.tomshardware.com/news/turn-your-aquarium-up-to-11-with-the-metalfish-pc-case

[serene siren]

• The fish, swimming close to the inlet pipe *

Schlooop!

Oh if only it was connected

[sand atlas]

It would be so cool to use the fishtank as a reservoir but that would need a lot of maintenance

[serene siren]

Only need to do one cleaning session?

If we can look past the fish faeces in ur gpu block for a minute here

[fierce pivot]

Why would you waste perfect desk space

[fierce pivot]

Inb4 fish crap clogs your waterblock

Oh crap felix beat me

[serene siren]

Get beaten to the crap Pato

[sudden charm]

Fish poop might be thermally conductive

Next thing you know, every extreme overclocker is using fish poop instead of liquid nitrogen

[blissful thistle]

The fish are going to be cooked

[lofty pewter]

I wonder if you put an unlimited PL 4090 for 800w GPU then like a 200w - 250w 13900k for 1kw of power, if the temps would change fast enough to kill the fish from temp shock.

Or just cook fish as stated above.

[serene siren]

Fun fact, when the temperature of the water changes and gets a bit warmer, fish go into mating mode (Like winter into spring sorta thing?)

I would highly suggest not stress testing or overclocking for fear of fish overpopulation

[fierce pivot]

Just get tropical ass fish

And lots of rad space

[upbeat dew]

fish swimming thru the rad like some Disneyland theme park xD

[scenic lance]

what psu should i get i have a i5 11gen msi rtx 3060ti

[sand atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3gJmP6/evga-g5-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g5-0650-x1

[scenic lance]

love you

[urban tulip]

rather have the GT for same price imo

[hollow leaf]

That's MY Falcie. Only I can love him.

[scenic lance]

what gt

[elfin trout]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088SSX883

[scenic lance]

whats the difference

[elfin trout]

ig gt uses llc instead of acrf

[scenic lance]

is it worth the 10 dollar difference though?

[elfin trout]

Both are fine

[urban tulip]

G5 had meh transients iirc

It's not a $10 diff it's only $5 so whatever

[scenic lance]

10 for me because i can only buy from official evga site

[urban tulip]

Are you in USA?

[sand atlas]

I'd say it's not worth the difference unless you'll be putting a high end GPU on it like a 3080

Which you shouldn't do on a 650W anyway

[scenic lance]

poland

[urban tulip]

if poland, what other shops are you able to buy from?

[scenic lance]

ive checked all the popular ones and they are around double the price

[fierce pivot]

Buy from Amazon Germany then

[vagrant lantern]

Is 430w enough for a Rx 6600xt?

[upbeat dew]

cpu?

[mild roost]

what cpu do you have?

[upbeat dew]

assuming your cpu draw like 150w max, you will be at the very edge of that psu.... you should get something above 500 at least

[vagrant lantern]

A i7

[mild roost]

which i7?

[vagrant lantern]

3770

[mild roost]

that'll do fine then

[vagrant lantern]

Alr Ty

[mild roost]

but cpu will be bottleneck

[vagrant lantern]

It doesn’t matter if I just play csgo and pubg and battlefield 5

No 2042

[tame cape]

Not what I was looking for but I encountered this.... Like..uh.. who has these questions?
It's like: I'll buy a 1kw PSU and use 100w out of it... Will it use 1kw?

[lofty pewter]

Some people think it's possible to get a PSU with too high of a rated limit. Either because they think PSUs supply a single constant amt of power or they think the min power is always x% (say, 40%) of the rated limit.

[orchid ether]

What’s a good UPS to survive lightning storms?

[past harbor]

Technically most decent surge protector power strips would do that. UPS big thing is being a battery backup. Various $200ish models from APC or such should be good.

[hollow leaf]

this is just to be able to save your projects before your pc shuts down right?

[past harbor]

Partly, but in my case it's to actually shutdown correctly instead of by the many CA power outages. Plus, if the modem and router were on a UPS then at least my phone/laptop could have wifi for a while, but idk for sure.

[hollow leaf]

that makes sense. Every once in a blue moon isn't a bad thing right?

[past harbor]

Pretty much, as of course I've had a bunch of power outages w/o a UPS, even a few times when I had 3dmark or a game going at between 10pm and 2am.

[sand atlas]

You want an online, double conversion unit since it has the fastest reaction time to overvoltage

Line interactive is a decent second that's not too expensive.
Offline are super cheap but can take 50-200ms to react by which point it's fried.

[fast dome]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qjy6Nc a friend is building a pc and is wondering what would be a good psu for this build

There’s only 26 compatible psu’s according to pcpartpicker

[fierce pivot]

Have they bought anything yet? And what's their pc for because 5900x is only a good decision in niche circumstances nowadays

[fast dome]

I’m not sure

If he’s bought anything yet

I’ll ask

[serene siren]

[fast dome]

Ik he’s gonna use it for Fivem/gta and prob streaming too

[fierce pivot]

Okay then I'd completely redo the build bar gpu

[fast dome]

Oof he’s also going for an all black design

[fierce pivot]

Yeah I'll keep that in mind

[serene siren]

Could prolly even use the ssd still

But yeah almost the whole thing lol

[fierce pivot]

@fast dome https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pk6Ghk

[fast dome]

Thx I’ll send it his way

[serene siren]

Even matched the aio to a cheaper lian li

[fierce pivot]

Wdym?

Np

[serene siren]

Mini air likes 140 fans

[fierce pivot]

Went air mini cuz o11 mini non air is an oven

It do

But idk what you mean still lol

[serene siren]

It be too perfect

[fierce pivot]

[fast dome]

Will that atx board be able to fit into the mini atx good?

[serene siren]

Ye

O11 air mini fits atx things

It's like, ATX mid-tower size but instead of tall it's wide

[fast dome]

Lol

[serene siren]

Wife lol

[fast dome]

Ok

[fierce pivot]

No it is Wifu

[fast dome]

Waifu

[fierce pivot]

Yeah o11 air mini is like atx in disguise

Yeah that's how you spell it

[serene siren]

Emoji suggestion: blushing uwu o11 air mini

[fast dome]

Yes do it

[fierce pivot]

I'll try but my editing skills aren't good especially on phone

😳

I failed horribly

That's a wolfgang type emote i think

[serene siren]

• cracks knuckles *

https://tenor.com/view/kinda-funny-cracking-knuckles-getting-ready-greg-miller-gif-14429632

[fierce pivot]

Noice

[tame cape]

Noice but this is better

:)

[sudden charm]

should just do that with every product

I want uwu GPUs and PSUs

[tame cape]

https://tenor.com/view/uw-u-kawai-pixel-art-gif-18479272

[tame cape]

w

[shrewd orchid]

Looking at buying a new computer case for my pc preferably a full tower case with good airflow and temps under $300 AUD any suggestions?

[serene siren]

fractal pop xl?

meshify 2 xl is 329 otherwise

unless you see a sale

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/651734/Fractal-Design-Pop-XL-Air-RGB-Black-TG-Clear-Tint-Full-Tower-Case

[blissful thistle]

4000d airflow, p360a, g360a

[fierce pivot]

Lian li 205, 5000d airflow, p500a

[tame cape]

I guess it's the first time I found a 80+bronze PSU better than a gold one, I was looking for bequiet tfx power 3 300w, found two models, bronze and gold. Gold is dual 12v rail meanwhile bronze is mono rail. Gold one has 13A on both rails (max 25A for combined power), that's 156w for each rail, and that's the part I don't like because you're limited to 156w for GPU (and you can't use like ~180w GPUs). Since 12V2 is for CPU only and 156w are useless for most CPUs (in my case the max CPU tdp is 65w), the 12V1 is for every other 12v component (PCIe, fan headers (MB in general), SATA, Molex...). By getting the mono rail you can use more power for your GPU (that'd be my goal since I could sell my 1070 and get like a 6600/xt, 1070ti/1080, which are all ~180w cards with 8pin connector.
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Hope you somehow find these info useful.

can anyone recommend me some other 8pin cards more powerful than a 1070 that usually don't cost much (used)? Something that's worth upgrading. (Like not 1070 → 1070ti)

[fierce pivot]

Some 3060 ti's

Probably some 6700(xt)'s as well

[tame cape]

Ah yes I didn't specify the budget

No more than 300€

For GPU

I guess the 1080 is the best one if under 300 ofc

I'd also prefer 8 or more GB vram GPUs

Are these type of models valid? The little fan doesn't look promising for 180w cards... And it looks like it's probably loud.

[sand atlas]

That's a blower fan, yes they're loud

Cooling is meh but not horrible

[fierce pivot]

1080 isn't worth the upgrade imo

For 300 you should be able to get a used 3060

[tame cape]

350€ for 3060 used. 1080 is a good upgrade, found a water lock one that includes the old cooler, I'll see if it's good enough for 230€

[fierce pivot]

Imo 1080 isnt worth but should be able to get for cheaper

[mild roost]

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[hollow leaf]

[tame cape]

Can anyone explain me better how PSUs combined power works? I've looked for answers online but of course there are always different answers...

This image may be useful

(i just got the fact that the wattage output on one rail (let's say 12v) gets reduced if other rails are being used a lot)...?

[fierce pivot]

So basically this psu can provide it's rated power, all 300w on the 12v rail (that's good) instead of it being like 180w or something

[tame cape]

but 12v can provide 300w only if other lines are not being used. ig...
300total combined from all lines (3.3, 5, 12) if I'm using 45w from 3.3v & 5v do I have to subtract 45w from the max 12v line wattage output?

[upbeat dew]

yes

[tame cape]

Perfectt

[upbeat dew]

you cant provide fantasy wattage

[tame cape]

What components use 5 & 3.3 lines? SSD, (LEDs strips).... What else?

[upbeat dew]

mobo and cpu

[tame cape]

I never understood where the CPU uses 3.3, because EPS connector provides 12v