cpus-mobo-and-memory

[burnt spear]

Looks like a pretty bad heatsink if I'm looking at the right thing

[wind karma]

Lemme find the exact one

[burnt spear]

What are your temps on it while gaming?

Also just to be clear

You closed everything when you ran the cinebench right?

[wind karma]

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/cpu-air-coolers/hyper-212-rgb-black-edition/

[burnt spear]

Including background tasks you don't need?

[wind karma]

Yes I'm on my phone rn

Closed any background tasks that were taking up cpu

[burnt spear]

Ah

Good

Idk how good that heatsink is

Looks chonky but big doesn't always mean good

[wind karma]

It had good reviews ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[burnt spear]

What are your temps on your cpu while gaming?

[wind karma]

Not quite sure, I'll check after cinebench finishes

[burnt spear]

I might fall asleep

Its 11 and I shoulda been asleep an hour ago

[wind karma]

1228 single

[burnt spear]

That's close to normal atleast

That mc is really low tho

[wind karma]

Might run mc one more time

[burnt spear]

Yeah not a bad idea

[wind karma]

It's fast so might as well

8828

[burnt spear]

Damn

Idk if it has to do with vrms or what

I doubt your sc would be normal if ram was the issue

Could be a bad bin but i doubt it'd be that low

Maybe do the full 10min version of it

Instead of the quick one

[wind karma]

Sure

Might run hwinfo for temp and voltage

[burnt spear]

Yeah

[wind karma]

76c max, 73 average

[burnt spear]

What's the score this time?

[wind karma]

8755

[burnt spear]

Jeez

76c isn't even hot

[wind karma]

Yeah what

[burnt spear]

I have no clue what the issue is

[wind karma]

Why's it higher lol

[burnt spear]

It isnt

[wind karma]

Oh I'm dumb

[burnt spear]

Kek

[wind karma]

Misread my own typing

[burnt spear]

Ngl I saw the same thing at first

Thought it was higher this time for a moment lmfao

Anyways, idk if the vrms are that bad on the mobo or if you somehow got an atrocious bin

Idk what else would cause this, but I obviously don't know everything

Someone else might have a better idea

[wind karma]

Core voltage max 1.35 av 1.327

[burnt spear]

What's the speed while benching?

Ghz

Did it ever hit 4.2?

[wind karma]

What's the best way to see that

Ryzen master?

Task manager?

[burnt spear]

Hwinfo should show that I think

Hwmonitor maybe

Ryzen master probably

[hollow thorn]

hwmonitor can suck pretty bad

[wind karma]

Ok not that then

[burnt spear]

I always forget which one sucks

[wind karma]

Ryzen master ok?

[burnt spear]

I dont use them much

[hollow thorn]

I sure do love myself a 1270v rail and a 6 million degree CPU socket

all you need to know is hwinfo64

applications with 64 in the name = instantly better

aida64 is great

[wind karma]

Aight found clock speed section

[burnt spear]

Opera64

Obviously best browser

[hollow thorn]

that's the exception

chrome64

[burnt spear]

I know lmao

Pulling your leg

My SO uses opera gx

[wind karma]

All cores are 4050-4100mhz

[burnt spear]

Sadly

[burnt spear]

Idle or active?

Very high for idle

A bit low for active

[wind karma]

During multicore bench

[burnt spear]

My 3600 hits 4.2 pretty easily iirc

I think 3600x should be 4.3

Aight I'm actually out this time

I needa sleep

[wind karma]

Cya

[naive pendant]

yea, HWMonitor would always say my r5 2600 was boosting to like 5.7 GHz

[wind karma]

averaging 4115 all cores while playing bfv

[wind karma]

they change a bit but are peaking at 4.35 at idle

so idk what's going on

[vernal cosmos]

Absolute garbage

[wind karma]

yeah I ended up using hwinfo

[vernal cosmos]

Nice

But yeah 4115 all core is normal

While under load

[wind karma]

ok

[vernal cosmos]

PBO affects differently binned chips differently

That score is ok

Just means bad bin

[wind karma]

hmm

[vernal cosmos]

Also @burnt spear from sippys testing ram speed doesn't affect cinebench

[wind karma]

how impactful is 3200mhz vs 3600 realistically gonna be

for gaming

cause I could upgrade ram or just get a new cpu

[vernal cosmos]

Depends on timings

Like ram timings

But yeah tbh wait a few months if you can for 12th gen intel

[wind karma]

mine is 16-18-18-36 iirc

[vernal cosmos]

Even if you dont buy 12th gen intel, amd zen 3 cpus should get cheaper

[wind karma]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/294059600798?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true

$280

If I sold the 3600x to offset the price a bit it wouldn't be that bad

I guess the question is do you think the value of the 3600x will drop more than the price of a 5000x or whatever i'd upgrade to @vernal cosmos

[vernal cosmos]

Yeah I think sell and buy that cpu now

[wind karma]

Im seeing 3600x sell for 180-220 rn on ebay

seems pretty good considering I bought it for like 205 200

[wind karma]

I guess there's also black friday

[candid loom]

will the MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK MOTHERBOARD work with a amd RYZEN 7 5800X?

[vernal cosmos]

Yes

It will

[eternal turtle]

pfft who needs ram

[vernal cosmos]

Every single pc out there

[eternal turtle]

no

[vernal cosmos]

Yes

[vast meadow]

Way higher than anyone should pay for it, especially used, since the 3600x is basically a 3600 just look at the prices for that

[burnt spear]

I know that's why I had him use cinebencb

It was to check if the cpu was that bad or if it was something else

[cyan raft]

I miss the Newegg days of bundles that were too good to be true

Crosshair VIII Hero+3700x for $400

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[cyan raft]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-much-to-learn-star-wars-attack-electricity-gif-10182983

[burnt spear]

I miss the days of when I didn't know crap about pcs

Simpler days

[subtle crow]

Is there likely to be all that much of a performance difference between good old DDR4 3200 and DDR5 for Alder Lake?

I really want to get a 12600KF setup but not if I have to spend 300 bucks on ram

[burnt spear]

Aren't they supposed to have some mobos compatible with ddr4?

[subtle crow]

Yeah, it would just suck if going with older ram killed performance

[cursive epoch]

It'll very likely kill perf

But how much idk

[burnt spear]

Could use it till ddr5 is reasonably priced

[vernal cosmos]

Theres faster ddr4 kits that cost less than the corsair ddr5 kits tbf

[cursive epoch]

^

[burnt spear]

Sips was explaining it the other day

[cursive epoch]

corsair ddr5 suuucks

[burnt spear]

A 3600c16 kit of ddr5 will be better than a 3600c16 kit of ddr4

[vast meadow]

Yes

[burnt spear]

By a lot

[vernal cosmos]

Itll be big difference

[vast meadow]

They will but they will tank perf most likely and require new mobo to put ddr5 in

[vernal cosmos]

Looking at cas latency and speed to compare not relevant with ddr4 vs ddr5 because the way they work is very different

[cursive epoch]

true

[vast meadow]

Unless you need 64gb ram i doubt you'd get that high up in cost, I'd imagine 16gb will be around 100$ 32gb around 220ish but that's just a guess

[vernal cosmos]

16gb 300$

Single stick

From corsair pricing

[vast meadow]

Ew

[vernal cosmos]

Yep

[vast meadow]

Bad

[subtle crow]

Ouch, I guess it kinda comes down to how pricy DDR5 is

[vernal cosmos]

4400(c40+ or somefing) as well lmao

[vast meadow]

Oof

[vernal cosmos]

300$ for 16 gigs of that crap

[vast meadow]

Garbo

[subtle crow]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pcmag.com/news/ddr5-ram-pricing-ranges-from-116-to-369%3Famp=true

[vernal cosmos]

I stand corrected its 300$ for DDR5-4800 34-35-35-69

32 gigs

[subtle crow]

At least crucial ram isn’t horribly priced

[vernal cosmos]

Never has been

[subtle crow]

Well, it’s like half the cost of every other DDR5 kit selling at the moment

[vast meadow]

ballistix max

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[subtle crow]

I guess prices look worse because nearly all the kits are 2 x 16

DDR5 should have more GB per DIMM, right?

[vast meadow]

max yeah up to 128gb per dimm iirc

[subtle crow]

Lol, Intel better be making some powerful cpus to worl with that amount of ram

[vernal cosmos]

We don't talk about that smhh

[vernal cosmos]

Thats for unregistered

[burnt spear]

So single channel of ddr5 is actually dual channel as we know it, righy?

[vernal cosmos]

No

[burnt spear]

I think that's how sips explained it

[vernal cosmos]

Well thats not exactly right

But isnt exactly wrong either

[burnt spear]

It's like dual channel with one slot right?

[vast meadow]

theres 2 bus's now per dimm

[vernal cosmos]

Yeh

[burnt spear]

Hmm

So will memory controllers need to be better?

[vernal cosmos]

Absolutely

Just to handle that kind of frequency

[burnt spear]

I dont know a lot about ram other than speed and timings so sorry if anything I day is stupid

[vernal cosmos]

Theres few chips that can push past 5000mts in current gen

[burnt spear]

Don't you need a godly binned 10900k to do that?

[vernal cosmos]

Nah

Decent bin should do 5000

[burnt spear]

Really? Wow

[vernal cosmos]

Decent as in above average

11900k can also hit 5000 relatively without too much effort

11900k has run 7200mts ram lol

[vast meadow]

11900k better imc

only thing its good for

[vernal cosmos]

Its also great at being a waste of sand

Even better at it than an 11700k

[vast meadow]

indood

[shy wyvern]

Do we know if there will be any ddr4/ddr5 combo boards for alder lake?

I want to get a 12600k but also want to wait for ddr5 to mature a bit before I buy into it

I obviously have a decent ddr4 kit already

[vast meadow]

Impossible, different slots

Also 12600k won't be very good on ddr4 is my best guess

[hollow thorn]

@shy wyvern

They are both 288 pins

But some pins will do different things

[shy wyvern]

No no as in

[hollow thorn]

And it's keyed differently

[shy wyvern]

2 ddr4 2 ddr5

[hollow thorn]

Wat

Why

[shy wyvern]

They did it with 6th gen, I own a 6th gen board with 2 ddr3 2 ddr4

[hollow thorn]

Seems like needless complexity for the imc

[shy wyvern]

It's more I don't want to throw lots of money at bad ddr5

But I'd be on this platform for 5+ years

So I want a motherboard that supports both

[hollow thorn]

Perhaps wait for 13th gen

But well, it's unlikely one will pop up

[shy wyvern]

Compiling stuff takes way too long on my 8600k and it's actually affecting me a bit, why I wanted to upgrade sooner than later

[shy wyvern]

Sad... every other generation leap we saw a bunch of boards with dual support

I wonder why they died with this generation. I've always bought cross generation boards

I went from ddr3 1066 to ddr4 2666 on my i5 6400 and saw such a big gaming leap. Was hoping to do a gradual upgrade like that again

[hollow thorn]

Perhaps need to wait for hedt lineup

[shy wyvern]

Perhaps. Still crazy to me that you could theoretically go from 800mhz to 2666mhz ram on a i5 6400

[vast meadow]

What motherboard do you have? You could slap a 9900k in there potentially, with probably a cooler upgrade

Although if you do a lot of it, 12700k or 12900k would probs be a better choice

But I'd wait til the cpus actually launch as more likely for more ram/mobos to pop up in the next few days

[shy wyvern]

Z370 a pro. My vrms already are hitting 86° in a bequiet purebase 500 DX case.

Sure my 8600k is overclocked but there's no way those vrms ain't going to explode at the sheer thought of me stuffing a 9900k in there

I doubt I could put any 8 core CPUs in here without hitting vrm throttling

Considering hardware unboxed had vrm issues running a 9900k on its big brother, the z390 a pro, there's slim chance that's going to work out very well

[shy wyvern]

Cooler shouldn't be much of an issue, have a dark rock 4 which is supposed to be good for up to 200watt CPUs

Yeah just rewatched that portion of the video for the z390 a pro. The z390 a pro throttles the 9900k to 4.2 if the vrms don't have direct airflow. No way my z370 is handling that

[vast meadow]

Yikes, how even

[shy wyvern]

$70 z370 motherboard...

It was enough for an i5 so I figured I'd just get it

[vast meadow]

Ahh

That's a veryyyy cheap board dam

B560 is barely that price and they're not great ones

[shy wyvern]

well new price was $90 but I got it refurbished for $70

the a pro series are so much cheaper than everything else it's usually ridiculous

the board was made with the 8700k in mind, it was out before the 9900k/9th gen existed

it literally doesn't have the vrms to support an 8 core, it will just explode

motherboards have been getting more expensive with pcie gen 4 and such. The coffee lake boards were so cheap, it was great

I got my 8600k for $90 at a thrift store LOL

$160 cpu + mobo combo.

I'm always a bit more budget orientated with my pc components. Or have been up until this point

I just am getting into more cpu intensive stuff. I barely have $400 saved up to get a good cpu upgrade. It's kind of why I wanted a combo board

Should I wait for a ddr4/ddr5 combo board (2 slots each) or should I just say screw it and just buy a ddr5 board and ddr5 kit?

[vast meadow]

im aware of that but still impressive pricing lol

[shy wyvern]

msi always amazes me with there pricing on the a pro series. They had a $50 refurbished b360 a pro motherboard too

[vast meadow]

400$ for cpu mobo and ram?

do you plan on having more?

i mean the 12600k alone will be 300$ or something like that

[subtle crow]

12600K is 320$

12600KF is 300$

[vast meadow]

Yeah but how much to you have to spend because 12600k 300-320 plus a z690, guesstimate around 160, and ram probs 100ish

[subtle crow]

depends on if the person wants DDR4 or DDR5

[shy wyvern]

I was hoping to get another $100 at most.

Considering the 12600kf is $264-274 per 1000

I didn't think it'd be more than $290

[vast meadow]

Sorry thought you where the other guy for a sec

[shy wyvern]

It usually only goes $15-20 above that

Worth waiting for a z670 chipset either?

I'm just fed up with the 6 threads nonsense

[vast meadow]

They're won't be z670

[subtle crow]

The cheapest DDR5 Z690 board I saw was the ASUS Prime for just over 200

and then crucial currently offers the cheapest ram at like 160

[vast meadow]

@shy wyvern consider a 10850k then

[shy wyvern]

but then I'd be buying into a 10th gen platform... Doesn't that completely remove the purpose?

like if I'm buying a new motherboard and cpu for 10th gen

why not just do 12th gen?

[vast meadow]

Not really, you can reuse ddr4 and still get 10c 20t

[shy wyvern]

I can reuse ddr4 on 12th gen

the 12700k is going to be faster than a 10850k

and cheaper

cheapest 10850k I see rn is $410

$390 for a 12700k.

it might as well be for that as I'd need a pretty decent motherboard for both

[vast meadow]

Well yeah but it will cost more, if you live near a micro center it's like 350 +20$ off mobo when bought there

[shy wyvern]

and pcie 4.0/5.0 and other features

$390 for 12700k doesn't seem bad if I were to go that route

[vast meadow]

If you use 12th gen on ddr4 it won't perform as well and then in the long run you'll spend more money if you upgrade to ddr5 cuz you'll need a new board

[shy wyvern]

12th gen on ddr4 still greater performance than 10th gen on ddr4 though, right?

[hollow thorn]

Let's just wait for benchmarks please

[vast meadow]

Also literally nothing consumer will take advantage of pcie 5 for a good bit

[vast meadow]

Ehh I'd say more likely equal

But i could be wrong

[shy wyvern]

but 10th gen is pcie 3.0, there is a HUGE difference between the two

[vast meadow]

Benchmarks arent the out yet

[vast meadow]

Pcie 4 is also hardly used

[shy wyvern]

yeah but for how long? 5-7 years?

[hollow thorn]

GN is almost certainly going to cover these things

[shy wyvern]

Yeah I just want something I can keep without feeling as bottle necked on thread count for 5-7 years.

[vast meadow]

til pcie 5 adaption for consumer things? id guesstimate more

[shy wyvern]

I meant til 3.0 is outdated

[vast meadow]

ohh

[shy wyvern]

because 10th gen is 3.0

[vast meadow]

ehhh depends for what task

[shy wyvern]

4.0 should be good for a while but 10th gen cpus are locked to pcie 3.0

what if I want direct storage or similar?

[vast meadow]

gpus.... probably in a gen or 2 depending on higher tier cards

direct storage will be cool but eh

[shy wyvern]

I just don't want to regret pcie 3.0 in a few years. Imo 10th gen Intel is their worst generation

[vast meadow]

but i mean what will you actually need pcie 4 for? some of the best ssds for not lots of sequential is gen 3 still

[vast meadow]

nah 11th is definitely worse, 10th gen had 150$ 10400, 250ish? 10700, 10850k at a steal of 300-400 and perform well

i9 11900k anyone

[shy wyvern]

11th gen at least had pcie 4.0 and other much needed features

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/trille-trillemusik-1step-worklife-fail-gif-22617188

[vast meadow]

pcie 4 not needed, what do you even use your pcie lanes for apart from gpu?

and other features like?

wasting sand xD

sure 11400 is good

but the 11700 is bad value wise and 11900k

i mean not to seem rude but like all they brought with 11th gen was pcie 4 really

[naive pendant]

intel's been lacking

[shy wyvern]

I been looking at getting multipe TPUs for workflow purposes too

I'm unsure how they're going to function on x8 3.0 pcies

does the amd ryzen 5th gen have avx 512/256 yet?

I may look over there

[hollow thorn]

Afaik 11th gen only ones with avx 512

[shy wyvern]

ugh

I need avx and the fact amd doesn't have it irritates meee

do the ecores support avx or is it like just running on p cores?

[hollow thorn]

No idea

[shy wyvern]

is there a paticular reason amd only has avx 128?

[vast meadow]

ahh i see

[shy wyvern]

Yeah

when I use all the slots it'll be cut down to x8

I know pcie 4.0 x8 is same badwidth as 3.0 x 16 which would be fine

[vast meadow]

Well that depends on the board

[shy wyvern]

are there some boards with 2 x16 slots?

[hollow thorn]

Pretty sure avx 512 was developed by Intel

X16 in size or bandwidth..?

[shy wyvern]

I meant bandwidth

I didn't think it was possible because of cpu lane limitations

[hollow thorn]

Yea only really a thing on hedt

[shy wyvern]

I should really be going for HEDT but I just don't have the funds for it

I'm still going to school for data science, so I only do interning and stuff

but my current workflows are just killing me on this 6 thread cpu rn

if amd had things like avx 512 I'd jump ship, I feel like a hostage to intel

[hollow thorn]

Sad

[shy wyvern]

I've reccomended ryzen since 2nd gen to everyone else but have been stuck on intel

If I was just gaming/media consumption I would've jumped ontop a 5700G or similar :(

stupid intel and their instruction sets

[subtle crow]

It's kinda hard to tell how 12th gen will perform at the moment anyhow

all the sources out there are either leaks or intel's most certainly biased benchmarks

[shy wyvern]

intel's benchmarks would've probably been somewhat accurate if there wasn't the amd performance bug

the fact that there was an amd performance bug kinda made them all useless

ryzen was performing 15-25% worse during the period they tested everything

[subtle crow]

Yeah, I'm hoping to get a 12600K as well

[shy wyvern]

a processor node shrink should allow intel to finally make some reasonable process hopefully

they've been stagnant since the 8th gen

it's why I didn't jump on 10th/11th gen

I been waiting for there stupid node shrink

the ecores are a huge bonus too

[subtle crow]

seems as though they plan to shrink their nodes quite a bit in the next couple years

[shy wyvern]

(X)

[subtle crow]

though it'll be hilarious if they get stuck on 10nm like they did on 14

[hollow thorn]

7nm was in the works for years by now

[shy wyvern]

we're going to be on 10nm+++++++ in a few years

10nm was in the works for how long?

[hollow thorn]

It wouldn't be too surprising for them to come out with 7nm, but also would not be too surprising if it doesn't come out for another 5 years

[subtle crow]

Intel's going to get left in the dust if they don't shrink their nodes

[shy wyvern]

they announced they were working on 10nm in like 2014 didn't they?

they delayed it by doing a coffee lake refresh then flat out jumped off ship for 10th and 11th gen

eventually we're going to have to wait for carbon nanotubes to over take silicon

[hollow thorn]

Or something new

Or just something else in general

Quantum computers might become more viable for mainstream use

[shy wyvern]

carbon nantotubs seem viable

they're predicting they can get down to .15nm on carbon nanotubes currently

we're going to hit a dead end with the modern transitor though.

[hollow thorn]

Perhaps there will be a step beyond GAAFET

[shy wyvern]

also I love how intel keeps making the cpus gradually bigger

as a way to hide their stagnation

[hollow thorn]

But well, the whole point of innovation is new things that we haven't thought of before, so who knows

[shy wyvern]

I was suprised how much bigger they are than 1200 pin cpus are

like 1200 was a slight bump over 1151 and I thought it would be similar

[hollow thorn]

I mean, bigger monolithic die is a real improvement, but they're moving off monolithic now

[shy wyvern]

but we got long bois

Yields die with bigger dies though

[hollow thorn]

Yes

[shy wyvern]

I wonder if they'll do what they did with 10th gen

[hollow thorn]

That's why getting a bigger die with decent yields is an improvement

[shy wyvern]

the i3's were so cheap

they had quite a bit cut down into i3's and

$90 for a 10100f a microcenter is just mmmm

it's a really good price

[hollow thorn]

Yes

[shy wyvern]

but intel probably doesn't like that, they want to sell more bigger chips

I doubt we're going to see a deal like the 10100f again anytime soon

a sub $100 core cpu

I built a few office PC's for friends using the 1010(0/5)(f)

they're such good value

[hollow thorn]

3300x was too at one point

[shy wyvern]

the 3300x was so low in produced numbers though

like

amd barely made them

[hollow thorn]

at one point

[shy wyvern]

it's really sad, there was so much potential

[vernal cosmos]

Remember when gpus were below msrp on ebay?

[hollow thorn]

Yup

[vernal cosmos]

I liked those times

[shy wyvern]

I got my 2060 in 2019 for $225 used

I was really tempted to sell it for $420 the other day

I got a spare gtx 1050 2gb I can slap in here to hold me over

I realized though if amd and nvidia are right

and we don't see stock meet demand until mid 2023 at the earliest

it'd be stupid to do it

[vast meadow]

Well you cant compare tsmc and intels nm naming directly, intel 10nm is same size as tsmc(amd) 7nm

[shy wyvern]

intel was just so ahead for so long

in node sizes

that they were 6 generations on 1 node

like 6 generations is really bad

5th-11th gen intel

if they can squeeze that much out of the 14nm process we should be okay with 10nm for a few generations

[vernal cosmos]

What u on about

[shy wyvern]

14nm from 5th-11th gen intel

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-literally-impossible-not-happening-no-way-pass-not-interested-gif-16838005

[vernal cosmos]

14nm and 14nm+ and 14nm++++++++ were completely different things

Smhhh

[shy wyvern]

LOL

For real though

they managed to get a total of 60% IPC improvements in a single node

that's really impressive

[vast meadow]

Well hey, if you want some extra cash mine with your 2060 while not doing gpu intensive tasks if you aren't already

[shy wyvern]

I live near a big city, my electricity costs are absurd

[vast meadow]

Whats the cost per kwh?

[shy wyvern]

19 cents per kwh

like it's stupid high

[vast meadow]

No lol

[shy wyvern]

idk how profitable I will be on 19c/kwh

[vast meadow]

High for the us*

[shy wyvern]

Where I used to live was 9 cents per kwh

yeah high for the U.S.

should put disclaimer there

[vast meadow]

@shy wyvern you'd still make 2$/day profit

[subtle crow]

Why does alder lake still triple the wattage of comparable ryzen cpus?

[vast meadow]

Uhh well that's a different story

[shy wyvern]

Look at the size of the cpu

[hollow thorn]

Different architecture and all that

And just

[main pulsar]

because intel

[hollow thorn]

It's complex

[vernal cosmos]

I mean

Which ryzen cpu

[shy wyvern]

Instead of making them more efficient they just went all out and made the things 40% bigger

[vast meadow]

Intel be intelling

[vernal cosmos]

10900k can draw 3x a ryzen cpu

[shy wyvern]

40% bigger cpu, even on a node shrink, is going to consume a crap ton of power

[hollow thorn]

Like different ways of measuring tdp, different boosting, different measurements for different boosting behavior

[vernal cosmos]

450W moment

[shy wyvern]

10th and 11th gen intel is a failure

at least on the high end

[vast meadow]

Nah

[shy wyvern]

the i5's and i3's were okay

[vernal cosmos]

10850k is bae

[vast meadow]

10850k/10900k good

[vernal cosmos]

Shudup

[vast meadow]

So is 10700

[vernal cosmos]

10850k at 200$ tho

[vast meadow]

200?

Where

[shy wyvern]

how tf did you get one at $200

[hollow thorn]

MC

[vernal cosmos]

When microcenter discount

[hollow thorn]

I think 250$

[vernal cosmos]

Nah 200

[vast meadow]

Was it not 290 or something?

[hollow thorn]

With 30$ combo w motherboard

[shy wyvern]

the microcenter near me is always out of the good stuff

[vernal cosmos]

Ive seen it hit 200

[vast meadow]

You sure not 300?

[shy wyvern]

You gotta go on restock days

Denver's microcenter is just BLEH

[vernal cosmos]

Might be 300 its 1 am and sleep

[shy wyvern]

and a 70 mile drive for microcenter is gross

[vast meadow]

Ew

[hollow thorn]

It's 370$ at the moment

[shy wyvern]

gotta plan my day around it

[vernal cosmos]

Yeah ive seen it go to 280

[shy wyvern]

I should've jumped on the 9900k when microcenter had that deal after 11th gen launched

$240 for a 9900k

[vernal cosmos]

Im happy with my 11500

Very nice cpu

I like it more than my 3600x

[shy wyvern]

I have almost never seen someone buy a x5__ intel cpu

[vernal cosmos]

Which makes sense since it is better

[shy wyvern]

like everyone buys a 400 or 600k

[hollow thorn]

Because it rarely exists

[shy wyvern]

I have a 6500T

only 500 line I've owned

it runs my minecraft server

35 watts ftw

[vernal cosmos]

11500 because uhd 750

[hollow thorn]

11500 never in stock ftw

[vernal cosmos]

Its igpu build

[shy wyvern]

oh that makes sense

I forgot they made the 500+ have better igpu?

all the core series usually has had the same igpu

[vernal cosmos]

11500 and 11600 same igpu

[hollow thorn]

Uhd 730 below 11500

[vernal cosmos]

But 11500 cheaper

[shy wyvern]

weird af

[hollow thorn]

Uhd 750 11500 and above

[shy wyvern]

like the uhd 630 was for all core series cpus

[hollow thorn]

Ya

[shy wyvern]

usually only pentium/celeron/atom get the lower tier

[vernal cosmos]

Its very in stock where i live

One advantage of where I live

[shy wyvern]

Only time I have see 500 parts is usually their T variants

the 35 watt versions

i3 10100T is surprisingly powerful

I found one on ebay for $55 and bought it to put into a family member's build

it's just an office machine

they were upgrading from a core2duo e6600

which was running windows 10

on a hdd...

core2duo e6600 + hdd + windows 10 = suffering

[hollow thorn]

Indeed

[shy wyvern]

I literally put a $20 used stick of ddr4 2133 cl24 into it LOL

it was an 8gb stick though

figured they didn't need fast ram for office work

cl24 on ddr4 2133 is just disgusting

it was one of those first generation ddr4 sticks

[vast meadow]

11500 nice this gen cuz it makes sense because it has the better igpu, uhd 750 instead of 11400's 730

[shy wyvern]

I was going to get a $275 12600KF. I don't see me ever needing an igpu again

I have spare gpus like 1050's, 950, 760, etc.

[vast meadow]

ew

[shy wyvern]

isn't it? If it's an office PC they won't know the difference

[vast meadow]

where did you see the 275 price?

[shy wyvern]

uhm

it's $265 per 1000 units

[vast meadow]

lol no

okay?

[shy wyvern]

it's usually $10-20 above that

above intels "suggested msrp"

[vast meadow]

its on newegg for 300 atm

[shy wyvern]

it's not officially for sale yet

I'd wait until it drops

[vast meadow]

its preorder

doubt price will go down

[shy wyvern]

is that for the k or the kf

there's no way it's $35 over suggest msrp that's ridiculous

WTF

IT IS?!

okay wth

intel literally lists it $265-$274 on their website

oh wait

that's the 12600k

where's the kf?

the 12600k is $290 per 1000 so it makes sense to be $10-15 higher

[shy wyvern]

best buy has the 12600kf for $270

don't give me a heart attack like that LOL

[vast meadow]

fair enough

[shy wyvern]

I thought you meant the kf since I said the kf

I was really confused

which that's not bad, $5 over msrp isn't bad at all

I thought it was going to be a full $35 over msrp for a second

[vast meadow]

i did lol

[shy wyvern]

Legit you scared me

[vast meadow]

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-12600kf-core-i5-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118349?Description=12600kf&cm_re=12600kf-_-19-118-349-_-Product&quicklink=true

didnt check bb

their site kinda annoying

[shy wyvern]

newegg is very bad with prerelease pricing

that's why I said to wait until after release

their prerelease pricing is always all over

[vast meadow]

ahh

[shy wyvern]

never trusts their prerelease pricing

microcenter has it listed for $270 as well

I think it's probably going to be $275 on newegg

$300 for the kf is absurd

woah $230 5600g??

all of amds cpus are on sale at bb rn

same on MC

wait nvm mc is $220 for 5600g holy crap

$220 for 5600g is a really good price

[vast meadow]

meh the 6 amd cpus arent as good as the x

[shy wyvern]

well ofc not but it's still faster than the i5 11400, ain't it?

with a good igpu

for $220

I wonder if only the k models have e cores, do you think we'll finally see an unlocked i3 again with 2 ecores?

like a 12350k

[burnt spear]

probably because it performs better

[shy wyvern]

wtf there's a Core i3-10325?

I've never even seen it

[shy wyvern]

Core i3-9350K is the last unlocked i3 we had

[livid sparrow]

5600g is not faster cpu than 11400 in most cases but better igpu

[vast meadow]

pretty sure its 11400 level with better gpu

[shy wyvern]

I'm so excited for 12th gen

[vernal cosmos]

@burnt spear

[shy wyvern]

if they really do have a 19% IPC uplift

even without the ecores they're gonna be monster cpus

[livid sparrow]

It is roughly 5% slower in most cases for cpu if I remember the GN benchmarks correctly

[shy wyvern]

so much more potential on a new node

[livid sparrow]

It isn't much, but eh

[shy wyvern]

not bad considering the vega igpu destroys the uhd 750

like really destroys it

[livid sparrow]

Oh yeah, Intel's igpus are a joke comparatively

[shy wyvern]

comparing vega to uhd is like comparing ryzen 5th gen to ryzen 2nd gen

How to I convince a family member that "i7" on a refurbished desktop doesn't mean much

[burnt spear]

didnt see that lmao mb

[shy wyvern]

the listing just says I7 and considering the fact it has a windows 7 sticker on it in the stock photo it's probably an old i7

[vast meadow]

[shy wyvern]

she thinks it's dumb to get an i3 desktop (10105) in comparison which is also cheaper

she's 64, she's seeing the "i7" which I'm thinking might be a 2600 and going "that's so much better"

[vast meadow]

Just explain the model is more important, show some benchmarks maybe

[shy wyvern]

than the i3 10105 computer I sent her

[livid sparrow]

What is the refurb pc?

Oh, a Win 7 pc, yeah, try benchmarks if you can find out the cpu

[shy wyvern]

I found the model, it's a 3770 (non k)

for $380 refurbished

I found a new i3 desktop with an ssd and 8gb of ram for $400 and she's saying It's a bad deal in comparison

the 10105 destroys the 3770

[livid sparrow]

What, is it one of those overpriced Optiplex's?

[shy wyvern]

she needs a small form factor with a optical drive

which are usually pricey .-.

she wants to be able to watch her movies like on her laptop

old people are big silly I swear

[livid sparrow]

You can just get an external drive for like 20 dollars

[shy wyvern]

don't try to reason with it LOL

She said she needs a drive in the computer

she's getting a drive in the computer

"won't the I3 be worse in the future"

facedesk

she's taking the fact that i3's age worse than i7's and applying it across 8 generation gaps...

Help me I'm gonna die

[livid sparrow]

Okay. Anyways, benchmarks, raw specs if you can explain them

[shy wyvern]

OOOOO

I'mma use misleading information

I'mma just point out the ghz of the i3 is faster

I'm big brain

[livid sparrow]

Hey, whatever works works man

[shy wyvern]

if she wanna blindly look at a number I'll give her another number to look at LOL

"oh it is faster, thank you"

I'm dying

I told her the new cpu is 4.4ghz versus 3.9ghz

I love my grandmother but jesus

[livid sparrow]

Whatever works works, just wipe the sweat off your brow and call it a day lol

[shy wyvern]

shes so technologically inept

it kills me

I had to go over there monday and go through a 40 minute walkthrough on how to get pictures from her camera onto her external drive she bought

she went to best buy and asked for something to store photos on that wasn't her computer and they pointed her to a 500GB usb hdd

which isn't bad I suppose

but getting them from her camera to her laptop was already a headache

but not her laptop storage is almost full

[vast meadow]

500gb hdd sounds like possibly overcharge :/

[shy wyvern]

The only reason she wants a desktop because she's tired of looking at her laptop screen for work. I tried explaining I can hook a keyboard, mouse, and monitor to her laptop

[shy wyvern]

$27 for the external drive so it wasn't that bad

I'm okay with their choice of a wd passport hdd

it works for what she needs

[vast meadow]

I mean it could be worse

[shy wyvern]

yeah honestly they did their job fine, I would've done the same

[vast meadow]

Should really get 1tb for that price mb few $ extra imo but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shy wyvern]

So her 9th gen i5 laptop has a displayport usb c

[shy wyvern]

it's for photos tbf

[shy wyvern]

so I tried showing her that all she would have to do it set the laptop on the desk and plug in the cable and everything would work

and I got a "IT'S NOT THE SAME"

and so that's why she's desktop shopping rn

She already has my spare 60hz 900p monitor, a keyboard, and a mouse and I have a spare usbc dock but there's no reasoning with her

like she thinks she knows so much about computers

[vast meadow]

@shy wyvern next time you can just use the analogy for gpus, like 2080 ti = 3070 = 4060(probs) etc kinda thing and do like 3rd gen i7=4th gen i5= 5th gen i3 lol

Cuz ghz wont be getting much above 4-5 range

[livid sparrow]

At least she actually uses the tech. My mother bought a laptop and never used it. And bought a desktop after giving the laptop to my sister with a really overpriced monitor and never used it

[vast meadow]

Yeah ik but sure look

[shy wyvern]

She's a nurse and sometimes she has to do scripts over the internet if she's doing phone call visits

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/but-why-tho-huh-whatt-me-gif-12565054

[shy wyvern]

There's almost no videos either. They're 720p photos taken with a 2008 camera. She only has like 41GB after 10 years.

it's just her laptop has a 256GB boot ssd

[vast meadow]

Nice lol

[shy wyvern]

so like there's no space on it

I tried upgrading it but she's scared it'd void the extended warranty she bought

she bought a 5 year (longest duration) warranty from dell when she bought the laptop

[livid sparrow]

Then again, my mother is also the one getting more dogs when we already have 7 and spending hundreds to a thousand or so on groceries when we are on a budget and already have 3 overstuffed freezers, shelving units of food and 2 overloaded fridges of food

[shy wyvern]

it was like $300 on a $600 laptop

[vast meadow]

Extended warranties hurt my soul

[shy wyvern]

eh she may actually need it

she never replaces her tech

that laptop was to replace a core2duo laptop she had

since like 2006

she kept it for 13 years

[vast meadow]

Still extended warranties are scam in general, they're not actually warranties

[shy wyvern]

it's the full accident protection warranty too

like

I guess that's good

it's mail in though

I'm glad she didn't get the 5 year accident protection house visit, it's like $550 for that nonsense

[vast meadow]

Oh ffs

[shy wyvern]

yeah she got accident and liquid damage protection for 5 years

[vernal cosmos]

Speaking of warranties I had to go to the apple store the other day

[shy wyvern]

everyone laughs at dells warranty sale attempts but it's for people like her

[shy wyvern]

oh no the genius bar-

scared

[vernal cosmos]

USB ports were dead

Constant disconnects

Guy refused to believe me because the one mouse he had there worked

[shy wyvern]

LMAO

Genius bar more like big stoopid bar

[vast meadow]

There's like no real apple store in Ireland, only the licenced official retailer stores, it was cool seeing a real one in france ngl

[shy wyvern]

we have so many official apple stores here

we have them in malls and stuff

[vast meadow]

Ik lol

[shy wyvern]

and they're always packed...

[vernal cosmos]

I had to go back home and grab my sisters 3 iphones and their cables and politely show him how the phones were connecting and disconnecting

He finally believed me tho

[shy wyvern]

dang I was hoping they'd suddenly work when you were there too

[vernal cosmos]

Just had to wait in line twice

[vast meadow]

The official apple store has so much more stuff out on display than the official retailer ones tho, as well as having the genius bar thingy

[vernal cosmos]

Bro I woulda been pissed

[shy wyvern]

All official apple stores must have a genius bar I believe

[vernal cosmos]

The thing is I dont own a single apple device except an ipod

[shy wyvern]

which idk how they find that many people cursed with the big stoopid, you'd think they'd run out

[vernal cosmos]

OH OH OH AND THEN

APPLE MESSED UP PURCHASE DATE

SO I HAD 9 MONFS WARRANTY INSTEAD OF THE 1 YEAR

That was a fun mess to sort

[vast meadow]

Same but the 3rd gen airpods tempting me

[vernal cosmos]

Resist

They work like crap on windows

[vast meadow]

Like sound bad?

[vernal cosmos]

Like dont connect half the time

And random disconnect

[vast meadow]

Really?

[shy wyvern]

Oh galaxy buds are also bad on windows

[vernal cosmos]

And sometimes only 1 earbud connect

[shy wyvern]

windows does not like wireless earbuds

that connect as one device

[vast meadow]

Don't think my gf has ever had this issue tbh

[shy wyvern]

that's just intel bluetooth being the worst thing on the planet for 2 earbuds under 1 device kind of thing

[shy wyvern]

My mom literally sold her windows laptop and bought a macbook over this issue

[vernal cosmos]

Both my frens who own airpods have tis issue

[vast meadow]

Lmao

[shy wyvern]

it's an issue with ALL wireless earbuds

that show up as 1 device

windows is just really bad with it

[vernal cosmos]

Truly wireless earbuds

Magic ear beans

[vast meadow]

Fair, i mean I'd mainly use them on phone/1 at a time anyway so

[vernal cosmos]

Apple still yucky

[shy wyvern]

she has an iphone and airpods and an apple watch and nothing plays nice with windows from apple so she just gave up and caved

Eh apple is good if you can invest in their ecosystem completely

[vast meadow]

Ik but legit no other earbuds don't have tips

[shy wyvern]

or for children like hecc no I won't give an android phone to little children

[vast meadow]

Too deep in the orchard :nod:

[shy wyvern]

My littlest 2 sisters have an iphone 6s and an SE2

[vernal cosmos]

Amateur... Real legends hackintosh

[shy wyvern]

hackintosh on laptop = hell

she still uses windows 10 desktop

[vernal cosmos]

Thats not a good thing

[vernal cosmos]

Debatable

[shy wyvern]

my mother is only 39, only 18 years older than me

she's pretty tech savvy

my dad is 40, he used to be a web developer so he like is super tech savvy

[vast meadow]

It is for me, my ears wacky and stuff, tips not good for me

[shy wyvern]

I just appreciate my entire household knows how to use technology

[vernal cosmos]

Imma be a skiptrace here and say u wrong HMPH

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/card-no-u-wave-uno-card-gif-15455638

[vernal cosmos]

Ear tip mean more option

Which good

[shy wyvern]

[vernal cosmos]

But fr hackintoshing really easy once youo get the hang of it

[vast meadow]

Yeah but ear tip uncomfy and makes ear infections for me

[vernal cosmos]

Ive hackintoshed a few pcs now

Like 4

[vernal cosmos]

Have you considered asking ur ears to not get infected tho?

[shy wyvern]

You forget people are not as tech savvy as us

[vast meadow]

Very much so, they no listen

[vernal cosmos]

Bad ears

[vast meadow]

Ik

[shy wyvern]

same reason I don't reccomend linux for people without computer literacy. Or PC gaming either. People are stupid. Me doing hackintoshes for other people is setting me up for tech support hell

[vernal cosmos]

Eh its fun to hackintosh

[shy wyvern]

would you give a hackintosh to your mother tho

[vernal cosmos]

Im helping another guy on here with a hackintosh

[vernal cosmos]

I have

[shy wyvern]

Salutes

[vast meadow]

In the way ram oc is fun, only if you hate yourself xD

Ram oc on not great oc dies*

[vernal cosmos]

Nah like fr a hackintosh takes me maybe 2 hours now

[shy wyvern]

my 3000mhz kit is like screaming at me

I have 4 3000mhz sticks running at 3400mhz

with -4 3 3 5 on the timings

[vast meadow]

Fair enough lol

[shy wyvern]

the gskill aegis sticks are a little absurd with their oc potential

[vernal cosmos]

Laughs in rev e

[vast meadow]

What ;-;

[shy wyvern]

yeah

like

I don't get why

their timings are so lose

loose*

if I can lower it that much on 4 stick

FOUR

[vast meadow]

4 is incredibly tight

[vernal cosmos]

No wait

[shy wyvern]

no no I mean like

[vernal cosmos]

Thats illegal

[shy wyvern]

4 lower than stock

speed

[vernal cosmos]

But whats stock speed

[shy wyvern]

I think they're cl20 stock

[vast meadow]

Ohh

Ew

[shy wyvern]

yeah let me find it

[vernal cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-vomit-luvicat-stupid-funni-gif-21439008

[vast meadow]

Is it stable lol?

[shy wyvern]

yeah

nvm I have it at cl14, cl18 is the xmp profile

[vernal cosmos]

Watch it be bad c die

[vast meadow]

Tm5 stable?

[vernal cosmos]

No wait nvm

Not c die

[vast meadow]

Cl14???

[shy wyvern]

yeah

[vast meadow]

What ram is it

[shy wyvern]

gskill aegis

I have 4 sticks of it

[vast meadow]

Wtf

[shy wyvern]

3000mhz kit

yeah idk

[vast meadow]

There's no wah that's stable

[vernal cosmos]

I doubt its stable

[shy wyvern]

idk I've never had an issue with it

[vast meadow]

@shy wyvern how did you stress test ram?

[vernal cosmos]

Boot windows test

[vast meadow]

That you know of*

[vernal cosmos]

Best

[shy wyvern]

With the worst stress test imaginable

THE INTEL OVERCLOCK UTILITY LOL

[vast meadow]

Test mem 5, arshia x anta

Bet

Actually just anta will do

[shy wyvern]

The intel overclock utility has a memory stability test

I ran it for 20 minutes and figured if it said no errors it was fine

[vernal cosmos]

Kil me now

Plis

[shy wyvern]

lmao

it was the easiest thing I had on hand

I was using to to change ring frequency inside windows

[vast meadow]

@shy wyvern https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/ run this

[shy wyvern]

since rebooting kills me

[vernal cosmos]

10 hour ram test moment

[shy wyvern]

I'm too lazy lol

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-uh-oh-no-gif-12741203

[shy wyvern]

I'm betting you it's not that stable

[vast meadow]

100% not

[shy wyvern]

Idk I've never had a crash or anything

so It's fine enough for me

[vast meadow]

Having a non stable ram kit is actually worse than a slower stable ram kit

[vernal cosmos]

You know you can corrupt windows boot sector with unstable ram right?

[vast meadow]

Performance wise

[shy wyvern]

shrugs

[vast meadow]

And this

[vast meadow]

Until it happens to you....

[vernal cosmos]

Like literally no os detected error moment

[vast meadow]

I had to reinstall windows 3 times to fix it@shy wyvern

[vernal cosmos]

Please go and run the .bat file pinned in #windows-ios

[vernal cosmos]

I was there when pato was freaking out over this and can confirm

[shy wyvern]

I've been running this kit at this speed for years

2018?

[vast meadow]

Was a NIGHTMARE

[shy wyvern]

when did I buy my first 2 sticks

It might have been 2017 idk

[vast meadow]

You'll get better performance at stable ram kits

[shy wyvern]

January 2018

[vast meadow]

Please just run the bat file/commands in #windows-ios and you'll see the amount of errors

[shy wyvern]

wait which one

can you link me to the comment

[vernal cosmos]

Either

Mine or patos

[vast meadow]

Either, same difference

[vernal cosmos]

They do the same thing, mine is just fancier

[vast meadow]

Ye

[shy wyvern]

#windows-ios message

this one?

[vernal cosmos]

Yeah

[shy wyvern]

what're you going to do if there are no errors LOL

I'll share screenshots of the cmd prompt

when it done

I'm not doubting there's errors just would be very funny if not

If this ram is fine I won the silicon lottery on both my cpu and ram then

my cpu I got to 5.3ghz stable (prime 95 tested) at 1.415

I run it at 1.37 5.1ghz though since I don't wanna fry the thing

1.4+ scares me

[vast meadow]

Well to determine if it's fine, minimum requirement is occt memory test for 1hr

But realistically the full test mem5 anta Extreme profile

Which should take 1.5-2 hours

[shy wyvern]

first part

second part still running

I've been running the ram like this since feb 2018 so

I hope they're fine XD

[vernal cosmos]

@vast meadow i think its stable

[vast meadow]

Doubt it's tm5 stable

[shy wyvern]

should I run tm5?

[vast meadow]

But not horribly unstable

Ye

I would

[vernal cosmos]

Bet?

[vast meadow]

Just incase, sfc doesn't get all the errors

[vernal cosmos]

Winner gets a pat on the back

[vast meadow]

🤝

[shy wyvern]

if it's tm5 stable I'mma laugh my ass off

I really doubt it's stable fr

I kinda just went

[vernal cosmos]

Oh same absoluetly

[shy wyvern]

"it boots, nothing bad happenning, it's fine"

[vast meadow]

What voltages are you running on that thing btw

Can you pull up something to view the timings?

Hwinfo 64 should do if you have that?

[vernal cosmos]

Asrock memory configureatrot

[shy wyvern]

not on this install

I don't have it ever since moving to windows 11 in july

or I can go to bios really fast and just see what the timings are

[vernal cosmos]

https://download.asrock.com/Utility/Formula/TimingConfigurator(v4.0.9).zip

Gte taht

[vast meadow]

I mean you can do that too

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/allergies-sneeze-bless-you-gif-14036971

[vernal cosmos]

Wot

[vast meadow]

Gte taht

[vernal cosmos]

Yeah

It passed 2 am motor skil go bai bye

[vast meadow]

Lol

[shy wyvern]

oh

wait I need to go check stock settings versus xmp settings for timings because I'm confused

it may only be 2 lower than stock, cl 16. I swear I lowered it 4

I'm at 16-17-17-36

I'mma brb

Oh I'm just stupid

It's 20-21-21-42 on default with xmp enabled, 16-18-18-41 without xmp

Is it normal for timings to jump that much with xmp?

That's at the default 3000 setting

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-14744673

Why cl 20 with xmp but cl16 without?? Did you mix them up?

[shy wyvern]

Nuh when I enable xmp it goes up to 20

[vast meadow]

Can you send pics?

[shy wyvern]

Nvm you're right

I think?

Idk

Let me go back in bios

[grizzled bloom]

You can enable xmp, boot to windows, and run zentimings. It'll say everything.

[vernal cosmos]

Intel system

Asrock timing conmfigetretor

[vast meadow]

Don't think zentimings will like the 8600k lol

[vernal cosmos]

https://download.asrock.com/Utility/Formula/TimingConfigurator(v4.0.9).zip

[grizzled bloom]

Dang that's what I get for helping too many people at once, the other one has a r5 3600 lol

[vernal cosmos]

Stop helping and send cat pics instead

[grizzled bloom]

🐈

[vernal cosmos]

Cute cat

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-clean-cleaning-multi-tasking-hurry-gif-5957126

[shy wyvern]

Sorry I got pulled away

Ignore the messy monitor

That's the timings for xmp

[vast meadow]

Odd

[shy wyvern]

Yeah

I just realized

You could see my reflection

[vast meadow]

Yeah?

Ohh lol

[shy wyvern]

Not trying to face reveal

[vast meadow]

I couldn't tbh

[shy wyvern]

No thank you

[vast meadow]

But fair enough

[shy wyvern]

NO

I CLEARED

THE OVERCLOCK

Okay I hope

I saved it to a profile

Okay how do I see profiles on this thing

I don't have it saved to a profile

Did I say what my dram voltage was?

Nvm it's saved to profile 5 instead of 1 LOL

Okay we're good

16-17-17-36 at 1.375v

So it's down from the atrocious xmp profile

@vast meadow this is the motherboard I had for my 6600k https://motherboarddb.com/motherboards/566/

this is the kind of think I was referring to earlier when I said combo board

[vast meadow]

Sounds like something biostar would do

[shy wyvern]

there was quite a few brands doing it

asrock did it to

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B150M Combo-G/

[main pulsar]

https://videocardz.com/newz/newegg-accidentially-ships-intel-alder-lake-cpus-to-first-customers-and-then-asks-them-not-to-tell-anyone

[shy wyvern]

at $30 more though? no thanks

I'll wait for newegg pricing to go to everyone else's pricing

[vast meadow]

Oops

[rustic radish]

hello

Question... (don't know if I am on the right place) 🙂
I currently have a MB ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE LGA 1155 Intel Z77 with an Intel Core i5-3570K
I am looking to upgrade them for a MB/CPU that will not have problem with my memory CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) or my Video Card: ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2070 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0

[vast meadow]

So you'll need to upgrade your memory with your cpu and motherboard, but what is your budget?

[rustic radish]

hehehe I am married w kids... which means that I get the scraps and leftovers 😛
I don't need latest generation, but I want something that will allow me to use win11 and be good for a some years (like the combo I had, which lasted me almost a decade)....