cpus-mobo-and-memory

[glossy wave]

Hey Pato you get my System builder?

Oh i got it thanks

Says theres an issue

Water cooler

[wintry girder]

X61 isnt worth it

[vast meadow]

You said you already had it?

Why is that an issue?

Surely nzxt would send you out an am4 bracket?

[wintry girder]

Also why do you need such a high psu wattage?

850 is overkill for ur setup

[vast meadow]

If not I'd replace it with a frost spirit 140/scythe fuma 2/arctic liquid freezer ii/ek rgb/lian li Galahad

[vast meadow]

All the non auto prices, they already have those parts

[wintry girder]

Ah

[cursive epoch]

Even if it doesn't, there's always a workaround kek

Literally grab win 10 and 11 iso

Use the win 10 iso to make bootable usb

Then extract win 11's iso

[wintry girder]

Do all 10th gen processors support win 11?

[cursive epoch]

Convert install.wim in sources folder of the 11 iso to install.esd thru cmd

Then slap it into the usb drive, sources folder too

Also yes

Since 8th gen, ms officially supports it

[wintry girder]

Nice

[cursive epoch]

Just enable tpm

Or for intel, it's like intel platform trust

[wintry girder]

Do u do that in bios?

[cursive epoch]

ye

Enable it in bios

[vast meadow]

Not good idea and workaround not needed https://youtu.be/NF6lu6IzIo8

[cursive epoch]

It's usually off by default

lol I literally installed win 11 on my laptop

It's "unsupported" yet I get updates

I don't believe what ms says

In my case it literally went smooth

Cause look at what happened to win 10 being the last os

They never hold their words tbh

[wintry girder]

Somehow my surface go supports win 11 even though the specs are awful

[vast meadow]

Even still that bit is a through up but if cpu not supported it tanks perf

[cursive epoch]

I don't see perf tanking myself, then again I have yet to test

I'll see later tmr

[tepid nebula]

CPU for Windows 11

[carmine lynx]

why all the sudden is AVG using like 50-90% of my cpu?

[grizzled bloom]

Because antivirus

They all do that at some point, it usually stops after it's done scanning or whatever

[vast meadow]

Although avg is a big fat meh imo anyway

[carmine lynx]

Yea I just restarted my pc since I didn't run a scan and it went away

[carmine lynx]

Yea I know avg isn't a great antivirus software I haven't put in the time to get a different one

[vast meadow]

I'd recommend just windows defender and malware bytes

[carmine lynx]

Alright

I think I have or had malware byt es

I have avg and glary utilities currently

[vast meadow]

I haven't even heard of the 2nd one

[carmine lynx]

Yea I don't blame ya my dad recommended it to me

seems to work ish

[cursive epoch]

It's auto acans they run sometimes

I use kaspersky myself and its auto scans are low on resources

[grizzled bloom]

This plus an ad blocker addon

[grizzled bloom]

I just had to kill Kaspersky because it was keeping my UAC locked. I couldn't run any programs in admin mode.

[cursive epoch]

huh

weird

[grizzled bloom]

It was also blocking my mining even when I had the folder excluded and the behavior shield off

[cursive epoch]

rip

[lunar pawn]

What things i should consider before choosing a motherboard to wed for?

1. CPU socket
2. Casing front usb port capability
3. Number of sata port
4. Ram ddr type
   What else?

Do ram maximum clock speed also restricted by mobo capability?

[dense frost]

Your CPU and RAM type are inextricably linked, so you dont need to specify both

If going Intel, you have to decide weather you want to overclock or not

[vast meadow]

Ram ddr type wont be a problem, certain cpus are basically locked to certain ram, eg atm all cpus from the past few years are ddr4

[vast meadow]

And no maximum ram speed should be ignored not a thing unless you want to do hard overclocking and get really expensive ram, and should be completely ignored if going Ryzen, vrm layout and power delivery is very important, number of sata ports is not something I'd bother looking at, you'll at least get 4, front panel case compatibility is something you can pay attention to but i wouldn't care, usually it's just the cases usb c not able to work if there's any incompatibility

[lunar pawn]

Power delivery and vrm is decided through psu right

[dense frost]

no. motherboard

[lunar pawn]

Where can i look for that information?

[dense frost]

lookt at reviews on Hardware Unboxed, and look for Buildzoid reviews.

Those 2 sources will let you know if a motheboard s any good

[cursive epoch]

Power supply just supplies the power the motherboard asks

While the motherboard deals with the rest

Through VRMs

[lunar pawn]

I see

Will look for that

[vast meadow]

It's kinda hard you need to look at reviews, or ask one of us lol

[hollow thorn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview#
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yPS3hj_K7EPT4RBWCyjdKNP56pnwDz-IgBc0975-FUg/edit#gid=0

[lunar pawn]

So hardware unboxed is a youtube channel eh

[hollow thorn]

useful

sometimes useful
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/

[lunar pawn]

This is intel right

[hollow thorn]

first link is am4

second link is lga1200

third is am4 again

[lunar pawn]

Damn, I don't understand at all 😭

[hollow thorn]

all you need to know is the overall rating

500 series boards are in a different sheet at the bottom there

[lunar pawn]

It doesn't list b550 right?

[hollow thorn]

B550 is am4

B560 is lga1200

[south atlas]

Sup guys I got my hands on a 3060 ti and now I was wondering if I should upgrade my cpu aswell. Rn I have a Ryzen 5 3600. is that a bottleneck for gaming? Ty for your help

[vernal cosmos]

Not bottleneck

[smoky widget]

@south atlas I would say that the 3600 be good CPU with your 3060ti

[hollow thorn]

What resolution

[south atlas]

Rn 1080p but I’m thinking about going 1440p soon

[hollow thorn]

1440p fine

1080p bit more cpu bound

[south atlas]

Aight ty guys my bank account will be happy about that haha

[naive pendant]

and here i am with a 2160p display and gtx 1070

[devout moth]

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[lunar pawn]

Thank you for all the fam here who gave me tip 👍
I settled for strix b550-a

[wintry girder]

3600 should pair fine with 3060ti

At 1080p and 1440p

[cursive epoch]

1080p, eh

But 1440p yus

Well if 1080p it's gotta be high settings and stuff

[teal island]

Question

Can the ASUS TUF Gaming X-570 Plus support a most recent Gen AMD CPU? I know the chipset should be fine, but I believe I heard something about BIOS or that jazz

[grizzled bloom]

Yes it can. Small chance you need to update the bios but that's trivial. It has flashback so it doesn't even need CPU to flash.

[naive pendant]

Hmmm should I get a 2680v4 for 118 bucks, a 6950x for 207, or a 6900k for 167 🤔

The 2680v4 is likely the best deal, but the other ones are overclockable, plus the higher clockspeeds despite the lower core count 🤔

and having a 6950x is cool... plus it'd be a nice addition to my collection

oh who am i kidding, if i want to overclock i already have a 5820k. i should just get the 2680v4 lol

[vast meadow]

Not the best at 1080p but not really worth upgrading, at least until zen 3d cones out

[cursive epoch]

yee

not worth upgradin

[finite elm]

Not worth upgrading if they only game of course.

Other PC uses might make it worth upgrading

[vast meadow]

Yeah but you'll kinda know if you feel your cpu is lacking and need to upgrade

[gusty ledge]

Computer only boots into bios after bios update

[cursive epoch]

What cpu and mobo?

[gusty ledge]

ryzen 7 2700 and b450 tomahawk max

[gusty ledge]

i fixed it temporarily by doing a cmos update, but whenever I try to change somethingin bios the same thing happens again

[cursive epoch]

hmn

revert to older bios

[naive pendant]

i have a b450 aorus m and i want to upgrade but idk to what any1 have suggestions?

for a r7 2700x

[grizzled bloom]

There's not a lot that you can upgrade to without upgrading the CPU as well.
Most B550 and X570 boards dropped support for 1000 and 2000 series chips.

My suggestion is hold your money until next gen Intel or AMD at least

[naive pendant]

i was planning to upgrade the cpu too

[grizzled bloom]

Ah well that changes things. If you get a 5600X you can pair it with a good B550 board.

Or you could even keep your B450 and just get the 5600X, it won't make much difference, if any.

[naive pendant]

are the vrms good in this board?

for higher clock speeds?

[grizzled bloom]

Doesn't matter for a 65W processor like the 5600X, that's why I suggested it

[naive pendant]

ohh ok

[grizzled bloom]

It's still going to keep up with even a RTX 3090, no worries about bottlenecks

[naive pendant]

also i am trying to use a aio to cool my chip does my board support that

or will i need to get a new mobo with cpu opt?

[grizzled bloom]

It looks like you have 3 headers, one for CPU and 2 for system fans. You can plug the pump into a system fan header and lock the speed to 100%. That's all the special AIO headers do anyway.

[naive pendant]

alright thx man

[grizzled bloom]

Happy to help

[limber dragon]

x570 should have zen+ support on launch bioses

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah but that would usually mean using flashback to downgrade the version and I'd hate to recommend that

@limber dragon Do you know if there's any X570 max boards, that have the 32mb rom instead of 16mb?

Or B550 for that matter

[limber dragon]

they dont exist

max was to get support for zen2

and the 32mb roms are generally still dropping zen+ support with zen3 bioses

[grizzled bloom]

Looks like there's one at least that I can find, a newer model that's $300 and supports as low as the Ryzen 1200
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MAG-X570S-TOMAHAWK-MAX-WIFI#support-cpu

[devout moth]

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[wind nest]

yo

w hy my minecraft only at 60fps with a ryzxen 7 3700x

[burnt spear]

Do you have vsync on?

Or an fps limit?

[wind nest]

thats what it was I fixed it a couple mins ago appreciate it 🙂

[burnt spear]

happy to help

[wintry girder]

Does anyone know if this mobo has a nmve slot and if so, where?

[naive pendant]

I think here

[digital kernel]

It has two, top one is a direct CPU connection, bottom one is through the cipset

If you have an 11th gen CPU the top one will also be pcie 4

[wintry girder]

So should i use the direct cpu connection or the chipset?

[grizzled bloom]

Direct is technically better for latency but it doesn't matter in practice

[wintry girder]

Would the sn550 work with it?

[grizzled bloom]

Yes

[heady nymph]

Does anyone know of a mobo I can find for cheap to match an Intel Xeon E5-2620 V4 20M Cache 2.10 GHz 8 Core CPU

[vernal apex]

You would need an LGA 2011 motherboard with native V4 support, so it's not going to be overly cheap

[heady nymph]

thx

[mild jackal]

@vernal apex That's 2011-3, also make sure the chipset supports the cpu.

[devout moth]

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[smoky widget]

https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-12900k-flagship-alder-lake-cpu-benchmarks-leak-out-again-fastest-single-threaded-chip-right-on-par-with-amd-ryzen-9-5950x-in-multi-threaded-tests/?fbclid=IwAR0IwFeecWUvckt0ZSS71H9HRkmd0ivBteZ_1csAgkxfYWxPcGlBa-nLScw

Wth. Intel were not joking. The benchmark are insane.

[limber dragon]

yes, much wow very insane: "Before moving over to the performance metrics, it is stated that the Intel Core i9-12900K peaked at 250W in the AVX2 mode stress test while running at 108C temperatures."

[smoky widget]

Correct. Im in awe that numbers. I know that maybe later will be reduced. The temp is not good for longevity of the CPU

[grizzled bloom]

I'm now 100% convinced intel is leaking intentionally

Think about it, it's the perfect business strategy. You give some info to a known leaker and they generate free publicity and hype. Then if it doesn't live up to the expectations, you just say the leak was wrong.

[limber dragon]

you dont need any actual leaks when you have wccftech and adoredtv

[smoky widget]

Who knows who leaked it. But is crazy

[limber dragon]

let me guess, you cite wikipedia too?

the exiled prince of nigeria could have leaked it, and wccftech will still make an article about it

[grizzled bloom]

Pffft everyone knows the Nigerian princes are fake now. It's all about Wakandan royalty.

[hollow thorn]

Nah, it's the old English Royal family

[smoky widget]

LOL

[main pulsar]

😔

sigh

this is the way things are now, huh

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah. The whole big/little core thing makes sense but it'll need some flawless execution so there's no increased latency moving a task from one set to another

[finite elm]

Yeah for sure

[tranquil gull]

Would anyone recommend a good upgrade from this that can take a Ryzen 9?

[grizzled bloom]

What's wrong with the board you have?

[tranquil gull]

Nothing neccesarily, but I want a more colorful setup and my nephew is building his own soon so this will go to him if I can get a new one.

[grizzled bloom]

There's much cheaper options than getting a whole new board for more RGB

[tranquil gull]

Got any recommendations then?

[grizzled bloom]

You've got two 4 pin RGB headers right? One top right and one bottom left?

[tranquil gull]

I believe so.

I have nothing in my case that lights up.

Its pitch black.

[grizzled bloom]

Ok, so you can have up to 6-8 4-pin RGB devices using just splitters, but if you want the more advanced aRGB with more color selection you can get something like this that includes a controller that uses a USB 2.0 header
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8KFXsY/corsair-ll120rgb-led-4325-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-co-9050072-ww

[tranquil gull]

I have one of those fans, just have to get the stuff to get their RGB working.

[grizzled bloom]

Perfect, their fans will connect to each other nicely. The hub is included in that pack.

[tranquil gull]

85$? I can do that. I ordered 32gb of ram Saturday. It will be here tomorrow, then after that I am gonna order a AIO.

[digital kernel]

Yikes

[dense frost]

that.. doesnt sound so good?

[smoky folio]

can a laptop CPU be upgraded with a complete motherboard change

[hollow thorn]

technically, but you might as well be getting a new laptop

[smoky folio]

ok thats what I thought, what is the best place to check out motherboard prices

[hollow thorn]

laptop motherboards? really hard to check those tbh

[devout moth]

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[smoky folio]

ok thanks, wonder how long Microsoft will support Windows 10 now Windows 11 is coming out

[hollow thorn]

maybe another 10 years

[smoky folio]

10 years would work for me before replacing my laptop

[hollow thorn]

hopefully

unless Microsoft pulls a bait and switch and makes windows 12

[smoky folio]

oh goodness, I'll stick with windows 10 for now, my laptop cannot support Windows 11

[hollow thorn]

I don't think MS has promised anything about how long they'll support w11 for yet, but yea

[limber dragon]

Surprisingly not that difficult (I do 2-3 a week), the only hard part is seeing if you need a new heatsink if there's a gpu on the board, and reactivation of windows/ service tags

[cursive epoch]

win 10 will be supported until 2025

[hollow thorn]

Where?

[limber dragon]

Amazon and ebay

[hollow thorn]

Huh

[rocky beacon]

You usually can find laptop motherboards on ebay

[subtle crow]

Does the 5700G have any significant performance advantage over the 5600G?

[hollow thorn]

With or without a GPU

[subtle crow]

without

[hollow thorn]

Not really

[subtle crow]

I'm looking to make a workstation with the one of the two cpus as their graphical capabilities seem sufficient

[smoky folio]

I'll stick with Windows 10 for now, my intel i-5 2.40GHz CUP is not supported for windows 11 at this time.. that may change

[hollow thorn]

Well, one is 6 core one is 8 core

So that'll depend more on the task

[subtle crow]

yeah, I'm debating on whether the extra 2 cores is worth a hundred dollars

[hollow thorn]

What exact program are you planning on using?

[subtle crow]

mostly cad and coding

lots of multitasking

I get by on my i7-6700HQ at the moment

and the M1000M gpu I have on my laptop is about equal to the performance of the rx550 provides plenty of power for my needs

[hushed spear]

Question can u use 1-32GB ram with 2-8GB ram sticks?

[hollow thorn]

you could but no dual channel so I wouldn't do that

[hushed spear]

Ok if I only have 1-32GB ram stick do I put it in slot A1or A2

[naive pendant]

just cut the 32GB stick in half duh

[hollow thorn]

don't use single stick

single channel sad

[hushed spear]

I Kno I accidentally bought the wrong one so I'll have to wait till next month to buy a second

[hollow thorn]

why not just return and buy 2x16

[hushed spear]

Can I if IV already opened it

[hollow thorn]

I mean, as long as you have the original packaging, you should still be able to return it

might ask you to pay for shipping back, but that shouldn't be too bad

[hushed spear]

If I just buy a second 32 of the same one I could still dual channel it right so why not do that instead?

Sry I'm very new to computer stuff 😩

[hollow thorn]

how much ram do you really need

and using single channel ram is just really quite sad

so performance will suffer when you're only using single stick

[hushed spear]

Probably not 64 lol

[hollow thorn]

yea

I have 2x16 and I personally see very few things that might even use more than 32gb

most things won't take more than 16

[hushed spear]

Well I plan on playing fps and games like ark survival evolved and streaming

[hollow thorn]

For things such as gaming, it's more about how fast the ram is more than how much

2x8gb 3600c16 would outperform 2x32gb 2666c19 in most games

[hushed spear]

This 32GB is 3200c

[hollow thorn]

Memory capacity is just, if you have enough, getting more doesn't do anything (If you don't have enough ram, things go wrong, it might just straight up crash or performance just kinda dies)

But if you have faster ram, the faster, the better performance

I could see ark using a bit more than 16gb of ram because unoptimized but not much more.

I'd grab 2x16 3600c16 over 2x32 3200c16 for better performance on most platforms

(If Intel, z series boards or b560, If AMD, anything beyond Zen+, otherwise you have limitations on getting 3600c16 running)

[hushed spear]

Ok I'll look into returning it then tyvm I'd love to stay and chat more but I got to head out to work and yes it's a b560

Tyvm for the help I suck at researching thing on the internet

[radiant iron]

is upgrading to 4x8gb only a plus no downside to it?

[long yew]

1.352v okay for ddr-4 3200?

[long yew]

most people haven't the need for more than 16GB total

[radiant iron]

i know but is there no downside to it?

[long yew]

2 downsides

one is cost, two is you'll probably never be able to max it out or get near that

by the time you are able to get close to maxing it out capacity wise, it'll probably be time to upgrade to ddr5

[radiant iron]

what do u mean by maxing it out?

[long yew]

I mean that if you have 32 GB

you'll be lucky to hit 20 GB usage

[radiant iron]

oh right so big overkill is what ur saying?

[long yew]

pretty much

but it's up to you in the end

[radiant iron]

so cost is the only real downside to this?

[long yew]

far as I can tell, yeah

[grizzled bloom]

That's well within spec for every ddr4 chip. Some can go to 1.5v or higher.

[grizzled bloom]

4x 8gb you might need to increase some voltages to keep it stable and it might not overclock as well, but besides that there's no real downside.

[radiant iron]

would i need to increase voltages manually?

[grizzled bloom]

Maybe, only way to know is to test it.
If you do, it's just vddg and vddp offset, easy stuff.

[radiant iron]

and how badly does 4 effect oc

[grizzled bloom]

It varies. Some chips are barely affected, others won't even hit their xmp rating.

[radiant iron]

alright thanks

[strong mica]

My sister has a 4690k right now, is it worth trying to get a 4790k or a 4790 not k or are they not worth upgrade cost. Going to be at least a year or two before upgrading. She's having issues with valorant it has a 750 ti gpu think it is cpu having issues as reddit says Valorant is cpu intensive.

[crimson monolith]

Hi everyone, having an issue tonight.

Super stoked I got a new M.2 SSD, and I added a second one then I get the M.2 genie error. I reset CMOS but it still gave me this error, and I’m currently trying to see if maybe I seated the m.2 SSD not fully in? But it says it’s remapping one of my m.2 SSD in bios. If anyone has experienced this before, what’s the solution? I have a MSI Z490 Carbon Wifi mobo. My Two M.2 SSDs are Samsung evo plus and the first one worked well. I only added the second one tonight

[crimson monolith]

My motherboard lets me put two M.2 slots so I’m confused why this issue happened. Honestly it’s pretty annoying something so simple as this shouldn’t be complicated

[grizzled bloom]

That's such a small upgrade, it's not really worth it. The 9600k beats both of them nicely, and for the price of the 4790k you could get a 9600k and a motherboard.

[grizzled bloom]

Looks like you'll need to disable the M.2 Genie and Optane mode in the bios. First you'll need to prepare Windows for the change, because you're going to be loading a different storage driver. I didn't see any other solutions anywhere.

To prepare windows, you'll boot normally, then hit the windows key+R, and in the run dialog box enter msconfig. In the system configuration window that comes up, go to the boot tab and select the check box for safe mode and the radio button for network.

When you hit ok it'll ask if you want to restart. Go ahead and do that, and then head into bios to disable M.2 Genie and Optane. Should be under Integrated Peripherals. Then F10 to save and restart.

Windows should boot into safe mode now and prompt for your password. Go to the desktop, wait a few minutes, then check the device manager to make sure it loaded the correct driver. If it didn't there will be a yellow triangle with an exclamation mark next to some storage controller.

If it's loaded correctly, go back into msconfig and uncheck the safe mode box. Then shut down the PC and you can install the second M.2 drive.

[strong mica]

I was finding 4790k for around 130 used you can find motherboard and cpu for around that or are you saying for $300 msrp or 240 new price off Amazon?

[crimson monolith]

My password is a PIN so when that screen comes up, that’s what I will enter?

Question before I do this, my data won’t be erased in any step of this process following your steps?

[grizzled bloom]

As long as you're on the latest Windows 10 version it'll be your pin, yes. That was a recent change, older versions required your full microsoft account password.
No data will be destroyed.

[crimson monolith]

Sweet! I’ll update you afterwards, thank you so much already for your time and help, it is sincerely appreciated 🤍

[grizzled bloom]

4790k is only 5% or so better than the 4690k. It won't be a significant difference anyway.

[mild jackal]

Sell it all for something modern

[strong mica]

Yeah didn't think the 130 was worth it but figured i get a second opinion just is expensive to go new will need new ram and likely case currently in an mini itx case.

[grizzled bloom]

DDR4 is pretty cheap now tbh

I've seen 16gb kits for around $50

32gb for $80

You could get used too for cheaper

[strong mica]

True looking at Facebook and eBay trying to find a cheap cpu motherboard combo, some that I am seeing include the ram just going to have to get new case and I have seen a few on Facebook for 10 or 20.

[grizzled bloom]

Check reddit r/hardwareswap too, a lot of good deals to be found there including combos and near complete PCs

You can put a buy request listing there too I believe

[strong mica]

Ok will do.

[fathom shoal]

Hey guys I have a question I’m trying to buy a pc to play Fortnite and I was reading about one and it said this “However, it does come with drawbacks. The Blaze II does not have NVMe storage, so you'll have to settle for a 500GB SATA SSD. There is an M.2 slot if you're willing to spend a little extra on an M.2 SSD. Overall, the Blaze II is a nice budget PC that should please most people” do you guys knows if this is relevant or will negatively affect a game or it’s not a big deal ? Thank you

[wise quest]

I don’t know what laptop this is, but an nvme drive won’t benefit Fortnite much

[crimson monolith]

Also, when you mentioned to make sure it loaded the right driver, what should I be looking for by name for the driver?

[grizzled bloom]

As long as there's nothing marked with a trouble icon it doesn't matter

[grizzled bloom]

98% of games can't use storage faster than sata anyway, the only thing that would really be affected is system boot time and even then it's only a few seconds difference.

[fathom shoal]

Betttt thank you endlessly

[limber dragon]

icarus loads stupid fast on gen 4 nvme, and fairly slow on everything else

[umbral finch]

intel core i5 10th gen vs ryzen 7 4800h

which is better

[burnt spear]

which i5

10400, 10500, 10600k,

[umbral finch]

10300h

[burnt spear]

i believe 4800h will be better, but for gaming gpu is more important

[umbral finch]

my friend bought a new a laptop and he hases the ryzen 7 4800h , we both have the same gpu ( gtx 1650) does the ryzeen justify the pricing ,cuz mine is for 3600sar ( 2 lazy to convert ) and his is 4500 sar

[burnt spear]

nah, not cpu alone, but theres probably other things that differ

battery life, cooling, storage size, ram size

[umbral finch]

idk about battery and cooling but storage and memory are the same

[burnt spear]

mm

[umbral finch]

weve played minecraft cuz its more on cpu than gpu and we got the same performance

[burnt spear]

sure you dont have an fps limit or vsync on?

[umbral finch]

yea

we also had same video settings

[burnt spear]

idk

but according to benches 4800h is def better

[umbral finch]

acctually nvm i forgot that the 144 hz screen he has justifys the price

[burnt spear]

i mean i dont think that alone would be that big of a price jump

but prolly better battery and cooling too on his

[finite elm]

A lot of people were buying Pre built PC's for the GPU and selling the PC after. You could look at those too.

[clever mango]

9700k with a 3060 ti?

[dense frost]

thats fine

9700k = 10700k = 11700k

[clever mango]

Big cpu or gpu bottleneck u think?

[dense frost]

nope

[clever mango]

Alr that’s what I thought

Finally got my hands on 3060 ti

[dense frost]

not unless you pairing a 3060ti with a pentium ||

[dense frost]

congrats bud. great hardware

[clever mango]

Yeah I’m a budget man. I’ve had a 2060 fe with a 9700k forever lol

[dense frost]

thats a nice upgrade. 1080p ultra settings are now yours for the taking 😆

[clever mango]

Yessir I’m a big 1080p guy so I’m real happy about what’s coming to me.

[dense frost]

make and model?

[clever mango]

Wym

[dense frost]

Make and model of your card (asus/msi/gigabyte 360ti OC etc)

[clever mango]

Evga ftw3

I’m my opinion the best there is

[burnt spear]

10700k has a good bit better mc doesn't it?

And slightly better single?

Still works great with 3060 ti

Just curious

[burnt spear]

I mean asus strix is the best air cooled card

Like without a doubt

Ftw3 is definitely a great card tho

[dense frost]

yeh. sorry, 10700 has mutithreading, 9700k is 8c/8t

but for gaming... meh

[burnt spear]

Yeah still great to pair with a 3060 ti

Would be fine with probably even a 3080 ti at 1440p

[dense frost]

absolutely

[dense frost]

very very good

[burnt spear]

It's a bit better than 3700x no?

For gaming that is

Idk I could be completely off

I think I remember someone here saying that

[dense frost]

correct

especially in 1% lows

[vast meadow]

9900k~= 10700k

[vast meadow]

Should be fine

[vast meadow]

Best is the cheapest 3060 ti you can find lol

[dense frost]

yes, thats more accurate. thank you 👍

[vast meadow]

Ehhh i wouldn't put the 80 ti on it, but it would be fine for 1440p, would struggle to keep up at 1080 lol

[burnt spear]

I said 1440p

[vast meadow]

Ah missed that

I still would prefer better cpu but would be fine yeah, no point upgrading yet anyway when new cpus around the corner

[burnt spear]

Well yeah its not the ideal pair, but its far from the worst I've seen

I saw someone pair a 6700k with ddr3 ram with dual 1080s

[vast meadow]

[clever mango]

I’m looking to use my pc anyway for competitive gaming and some open world games here and there

At 1080p

So I’ll be fine

Yeah the 9700k is good but only 8 threads

Last gen beast

[mild jackal]

9900k is too hard to cool without a delid anyway, 9700k can run some nice, sweaty ran oc's too. 4133 c16 tight with average b-die

[vast meadow]

Yeah no point really going 9900k unless need the multi core anyway lol

[mild jackal]

Even if you do need the multicore, >1.25v or something will throttle in tough workloads.

[devout moth]

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[leaden mirage]

Thinking of upgrading my r7 5800x to an r9 5950x, but I think I’d end up gpu-bound with the RX 5700 XT

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[crimson monolith]

I didn’t see any exclamation marks under the storage controller, but if see them under a lot of other components, that’s fine?

I see them under game controller, monitor, network adapter, software devices (wavetable synth), other devices- base system device, software components (generic software component, Intel dynamic application loader host interface, icls client), and audio

[grizzled bloom]

Those are fine, they don't load in safe mode is why

[vast meadow]

For gaming, the jump is margin of error

[south valve]

Hey yall, any thoughts about my high end..? build? Going to be buying it max on december.

Feel free to share you're thoughts, but please do keep in mind, keyboards is a peripherals and I just simple like red switches.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7h3ncT

[vast meadow]

I assume youve already bought the things with the automatic price?

[south valve]

didn't buy a single thing

[vast meadow]

Grand I'd make a few changes then

[south valve]

aw, I pretty pleased with it

@vast meadow you can go ahead and do changes tho

[vast meadow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qBvQt8 I'd do this, if you want to spend more you can get a 3080 ti for 1500

[south valve]

how can I buy a 3080 ti for 1500

[vast meadow]

Check pins in #graphics-cards

[south valve]

don't live in the us

[vast meadow]

Ohh where do you live? Because you're using the us pc part picker

[south valve]

qatar

[vast meadow]

Well then basically all my recommendations are probs void lol

[south valve]

@vast meadow is it fine if I swab just the case and maybe the cooler?

with my current list

[vast meadow]

Yeah lancool mesh ii is a decent case but i wouldn't get the corsair cooler, I'd aim for Arctic liquid freezer ii, ek rgb or lian li galahad 360mm aios

[south valve]

well I just want something that looks good

[vast meadow]

They do lol

[south valve]

do u have any photos of them on a pc

[vast meadow]

No but google should and pc part picker has photos ofc

[south valve]

oh alr, lemme see rq

@vast meadow saw it, i don't really like the looks of it

but the thing is

all cases are 120 dollars for shipping

[vast meadow]

Hmm okay you do you but I'd really get a 280 or 360mm

[south valve]

so I would get it here locally, but i don't know what they got

what if they have absolutely bull$hit cases?

@vast meadow you get me?

[south valve]

I don't think the lian li Case supports 360 for top mounting

[vast meadow]

Yeah would be a bad idea to buy from the us if you live in qatar, look to countries closer to you

[south valve]

hm, Saudi doesn't ship here because of past blockade

bro I'm not even Qatari, I'm egyptian Canadian

id rather off wait until college and then go to Canada and buy it, but I don't got the patience

[vast meadow]

Well you could try germany or something

[south valve]

yeah, they all are the same thing

same shipping price

[vast meadow]

Damm

What about in your country?

[south valve]

?

egypt?

@vast meadow people in pcmr recommending the lian li glackhead or idk what's it called

that lian li copler

cooler

[vast meadow]

Galahad

[south valve]

mhm

[vast meadow]

I'm not sure if you're in Egypt or qatar but whichever

[south valve]

In Qatar

[vast meadow]

Yeah i already recommended the Galahad lol

[south valve]

dang

I think I'm gonna get it

but which case tho aa

lian li case doesn't support 360 ontop

[vast meadow]

You can do front mount

[south valve]

I hate front mount

is the phantex case good?

the one you recommended

[vast meadow]

Yeah the p400a can't top mount a 360 but the p500a can, so can the td500 mesh

[south valve]

ah alr, lemme see lol

[finite elm]

@vast meadow check out my latest upgrade

[vast meadow]

Lovely

[finite elm]

It's so dirty

I don't think 1gb of ram could do anything these days

[vast meadow]

Smol ram lol

[grizzled bloom]

1gb is plenty for xp

[finite elm]

Do people still use XP?

[grizzled bloom]

I used to run xp on 384mb

[finite elm]

I wanna get one of those old tan PC's and modernize it. Have a sleeper build.

[grizzled bloom]

Mostly people running legacy programs and benchmarks

[finite elm]

Ah

[vast meadow]

More of a win me guy myself

[grizzled bloom]

I'm partial to 98 SE

[vast meadow]

I was not alive yet lol

[grizzled bloom]

My old 98 was the most stable computer I ever owned. I even ran 3d games on it, starcraft, all that good stuff

[finite elm]

Imma check eBay for an old Compaq

[vast meadow]

Damm

[devout moth]

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[south valve]

@vast meadow can i dm u

about cpu cooler

dk what to choose

[vast meadow]

I'd prefer here tbh i like my dms empty lol

[vast meadow]

What are your options?

[south valve]

alr

lemme get the options

@vast meadow

[rocky beacon]

Galahad

[grizzled bloom]

MSI is loud
Corsair has garbage software
Galahad is best option

[south valve]

wait im actually gonna choose corsair

since the front looks way better tbf

[grizzled bloom]

Ok just keep in mind I've seen the corsair software use 12% of a 5950X just to have a single color

[vast meadow]

Galahad any day

[weary mulch]

I've been wondering if the 5000 series threadripper CPUs were delayed to early 2022 because they will also come with the 3D-Vcache https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-confirms-ryzen-cpu-refresh-with-3d-v-cache-early-in-2022/

[finite elm]

EK

120$ right now

[vast meadow]

Nice option but they live in Qatar was going off what was available to them

[finite elm]

oh

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[bronze furnace]

Is the AMD Ryzen 5 5600G good for gaming?

[vernal cosmos]

its a great apu but if you dont want integrated graphics, the 5600x is better and the 11400 is best value

11500 if you want igpu and great price

[vast meadow]

When 11400 at 200$ and 11500 at 220$*

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[naive pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-face-palm-seriously-exasperated-gif-7304550

[vernal cosmos]

ofc

[vast meadow]

Ik you know but just fyi for them or anyone else as you don't really here about cpus being scalped/oos a lot

[vernal cosmos]

yeah fair

[umbral finch]

What is the best cpu now

[devout moth]

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[umbral finch]

bruh

anyway what is the best cpu for gaming rn

[steel marsh]

quick question, what are the current market prices for ryzen 5000X series cpus?

[umbral finch]

idk

btw the best cpu i mean the best performance nomatter the price

[steel marsh]

bruh this must be a scam

[grizzled bloom]

Why would it be a scam? It's just overpriced is all

It's $600 on newegg right now from third party

[steel marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/tomioka-giyu-kimetsu-no-yaiba-tired-demon-slayer-gif-15721100

[umbral finch]

noone answered me , what is the best cpu rn

interms of performance in gaming

ik that gpu are more important or someshit but i want to play minecraft on 128 render distance

[supple sedge]

the absolute best GPU or something that will do 128 render just fine?

[smoky widget]

AMD 5800X or 10900K since the 11900K is too expensive

[supple sedge]

feel like a 5600x or 5800x will do just fine on 128

[umbral finch]

thats was just an example but i mean the best if money doesnt matter

just intreted

[supple sedge]

probably the 5900x?

[smoky widget]

ohh, then 5900x then. Since it has 12/24 and is decently up in single and multicore graphs

[umbral finch]

k

[grizzled bloom]

Conventional wisdom says 5950X is best but it's really hard to cool effectively, so it tends to boost lower than the 5900X

[smoky widget]

So 5900X then @grizzled bloom ?

[grizzled bloom]

Yes, but it's only like 2% better than 5800X in gaming

[supple sedge]

yeah honestly if you're just gaming I would almost just go for 5800x

only really need anything better if ur a content creator or something

[grizzled bloom]

Exactly, no average person needs 24 or 32 threads

[smoky widget]

Unless the new Intel leaks are true. 😦

[supple sedge]

we shall see

[grizzled bloom]

I'd avoid the new platform for now personally, first gen DDR5 will have some growing pains and the new core structure will need optimizing

Once we start seeing DDR5-7000 is about when I'll upgrade

[smoky widget]

totally agreed @grizzled bloom It's promising but ya

[vast meadow]

Msrp

[smoky widget]

If you buy them at microcenter, Store only. Sometimes it's decent priced with a mOBO. But mostly everywhere is MSRP @steel marsh

[subtle crow]

Why is it that the 5000 series is selling at msrp while like the r5 3600 is way over?

3300x is also way over

[grizzled bloom]

They're not being produced any more so it's only old stock, used stock, or scalpers selling

[subtle crow]

Shame

I almost bought a 3300X

But then it went out of stock and is now only sold for twice the price used

[vast meadow]

Also cuz 3600 was pretty popular for bit

[zenith spruce]

Hi everyone, not sure where to post this so I thought here would be good... I put my computer to sleep at night, but when I wake up in the morning it's been 'on' and this usually means the GPU is not seated properly. However, my RGB are always not what I set them to. I'm using Aura Sync, as soon as I open the program, it goes back to the settings I had, but when it wakes up itself, it's always solid red. Any suggestions?

[hollow thorn]

..?

[rocky beacon]

What?

[zenith spruce]

What doesn't make sense

[rocky beacon]

The GPU not being seated properly has nothing to do with your computer waking up from sleep?

Also am confused on what RGB has to do with your computer waking up from sleep?

[zenith spruce]

Well that's what I've been told in the past. I actually reseated the GPU and it corrected the issue for about a month.

My RGB is all set to white, when the computer wakes they're always red until I load the RBG app.

I also don't know why the RGB is changing upon waking up.

This is why I'm here asking

[rocky beacon]

Your RGB settings are only applying when you have your RGB app open

Is it set to run on startup?

[zenith spruce]

If I manually wake the computer myself, RGB stays white. It's only when it's waking up on it's own.

[vast meadow]

mb just dont run your pc overnight if its not mining and if it is mining just set it to not sleep so it doesnt actually stop mining lol?

[zenith spruce]

But I want it to sleep.... cause I'm not using it. lol

[vast meadow]

thats what shut down is for, having windows keep running for many days is a bad idea anyway

[zenith spruce]

I guess I could just shut down.

I've always heard with SSD's you can have it sleep for months on end without issues.

[vast meadow]

i mean you can but windows doesnt like it, its supposed to be restarted every day or 2

[zenith spruce]

Gotcha. I also just went in and removed the mouse & keyboard from allowing them to wake the computer.

Also seen a command prompt I can run to see what woke the machine up, so I'll have to give it a shot tomorrow and see what it says, if it wakes... if it doesn't, must have been my razer stuff.

[jade nebula]

I am looking to upgrade the components of my home computer I built a few years ago to be Windows 11 compatible and looking for recommendations. The current components in my computer are not Windows 11 compatible. Here's the list: CPU:
Intel Core i7 2600K @ 3.40GHz
Socket 1155 LGA
4 cores / 8 threads

Motherboard:
ASUSTek P8Z68-V GEN3

Memory:
DDR3
Dual Channel
32 GBytes

[devout moth]

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[grizzled bloom]

You'll need a new processor, memory, and motherboard at a minimum

Maybe $250 for low end modern parts that can beat your old parts

[jade nebula]

Correct. I am aware I need a new motherboard, processor and memory. That's what I am asking.

[grizzled bloom]

Ok, a 10100 processor, cheap b560 motherboard, and $50 16gb memory should run you around $250

[jade nebula]

I would like to upgrade to an 8 core proc and also keep the RAM at least at 32 GBytes like I already have.

[grizzled bloom]

Ok, how much of a budget do you have for this upgrade in total?

[jade nebula]

$500 - $1000

[hoary echo]

🤔

[grizzled bloom]

Ok, do you think you'll need a CPU cooler too? These 8 core chips get VERY hot and standard cooling solutions won't be sufficient. Usually a 240mm AIO is the minimum.

Here's my recommendation https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8QB7Bc

[vast meadow]

@jade nebula can you resuse your case, power supply and do you have a graphics card or will you be using integrated graphics?

[dense frost]

gotta check if their case can support a 280 AIO

[vast meadow]

I'd also swap the mobo

[devout moth]

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[rocky pilot]

Hey Team, looking for some help on connecting a fan hub to my Mobo. Anyone have the knowledge?

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[hollow thorn]

What do you need?

[rocky pilot]

Check out case thread right below this thread. Chatting with Pato as we speak

[hollow thorn]

aight pato can do the thing

[rocky pilot]

We're still stumped. Another perspective might help. Appreciate it though

[hollow thorn]

dm me photo and what fans are you trying to use?

[naive pendant]

Do you need Windows 11?

If you dont need it, I would really suggest sticking with Windows 10 for a good while until W11 gets it issues worked out.

[vast meadow]

Well it sounds like they're well due for an upgrade tho anyway, even if they do run windows 10 on their new pc for a bit it will be win 11 ready for when it's fixed

[naive pendant]

lol i just realized the e5 1650v3 has a higher boost clock than the 5930k, yet its cheaper than it on ebay

[little frigate]

hi everyone do someone can help me with for Référence (SKU) du système RC47KB i cant find the information for the motherboard to know what max spec ram i can put in and what drive i can add thank you

[smoky widget]

but is harder to OC the E5 1650V3. Since is a Xeon CPU. for the LGA2011V3 maybe the i7-6900K,6950x @naive pendant

[grizzled bloom]

That's the aorus 7 laptop right?
It supports up to 64gb memory and max speed is 2933. (faster memory can be used but will be reduced to 2933)

[subtle crow]

So, do older generations of intel make less heat, I currently have an i7-950 with an intel stock cooler

and was actually really amazed that it ran at 35C with no load, while I have yet to see it exceed 60C

[grizzled bloom]

No, they don't. Sometimes they can make more heat and use more power than current gen.

The 950 is a midrange CPU so they don't get as hot to begin with

[subtle crow]

huh, weird

It contrasts quite a bit with my i7-6700HQ which likes to run around 90C while playing games

lol, the cooling system on my laptop is terrible though

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah laptops don't compare to desktops at all

[noble rampart]

I figured out my memory problem.

What recourse do I have?

Can I return it to amazon?

Can I contest the RMA?

They said I was within my warranty to have it fixed.

But then said they wouldn't.

[cursive epoch]

Yes

Return it to amazon

You can do it if you bought the thing from em

[naive pendant]

Well look what I found lol

[cursive epoch]

ah yes

sli ram

that glorious green

those are 4 gigs sticks, whoa

8 gigs in 2008 sounds like overkill kek

[naive pendant]

lol ikr

I wish I could buy these off my college

[grizzled bloom]

That's some BS. They're supposed to replace it with a comparable model if the exact one is out of stock. I've gotten routers upgraded that way lol. 3 year warranty and the thing craps out a little after 2 years, it's out of production, so they send me a comparable newer model.

[cursive epoch]

^

it's just bull

[naive pendant]

Lol just found this mini itx board in an unused hardware bin

it has bent pins, yet the board has probably never been used since the IO shield is still packaged lmao

[cursive epoch]

nothing a delicate work can't fix

[naive pendant]

Yea

its just sad and funny though lol

[cursive epoch]

ya

[hoary echo]

what socket?

[grizzled bloom]

That's a lot of bent pins too, very sad

[naive pendant]

lga775

so those patriot dimms would work with this board

might have to try it lmao

there's another one of this board too

[hoary echo]

how old would that be then?

[naive pendant]

around 2008

i think

[hoary echo]

thats almost as old as i am

[naive pendant]

lol how old are you

[hoary echo]

i found an lga 1155 mobo in my schools tech room

[hoary echo]

16

[naive pendant]

oh

Dang the other board had a cpu cooler for it 👀

[cursive epoch]

dem old downdraft coolers

[naive pendant]

lol

ooo just found a core 2 quad q9550 to use with it

[grizzled bloom]

Ooh very nice

Looks like that Zotac board is from late 2006/early 2007 based on driver build dates

And yes drivers are still available, and support XP through 8

[naive pendant]

no 8.1 support?

There's an ssd here with 8.1 already on it

[grizzled bloom]

Not officially but generic drivers will be loaded

[naive pendant]

sounds good

[grizzled bloom]

And you can usually install Windows 7 drivers on Windows 8 also

[naive pendant]

I just wanna see if the hardware still works lol

There was a WD740 here that I tested, and it actually works, although with some bad sectors

oh wait im dumb, this board uses ddr3 not ddr2

[hoary echo]

when was ddr2 first made?

[naive pendant]

I forget

[grizzled bloom]

2003

[naive pendant]

hmmm im gonna pair this mini itx board with a gtx 480

[grizzled bloom]

Dang that's some power right there

You know, relatively

[naive pendant]

lol yea

[cursive epoch]

ye

You can install win 7 drivers on 8.1

Even 10

Not sure 11 but who would run core 2 on 11 lmao

[naive pendant]

doubt it lol

[cursive epoch]

But I know 8.1 drivers works for sure for 11

Usin it on my laptop

[grizzled bloom]

11 won't even want to work because no UEFI probably

[naive pendant]

hmmm board's not posting, and seems like a CPU related issue

im gonna check if i bent the pins back well

the CPU did come out a couple years after the board though so it could be a bios issue

I dont think there are any older LGA775 cpus here though :(

[cursive epoch]

you can even skip that, iirc

but i wouldn't recommend it

bypassing tpm? sure, but secure boot

ehhh

[grizzled bloom]

It can install on normal bios? Socket 775 was before UEFI

[cursive epoch]

win 11 will run bleh on things before secure boot anyway

but yes

you can with some tricks

[naive pendant]

ooh that would be interesting

[cursive epoch]

it's as simple as making hybrid install media

[grizzled bloom]

I kinda want to install it on my Phenom platform now

[cursive epoch]

make win 10 boot media

use win 11's iso that you extracted with winrar

convert its install.wim to install.esd thru dism

then slap that into win 10 media

boom, you get win 11 with win 10's installer

but i suggest before installing it, make sure to do some registry hack when you're at first page of the installer

linus has a vid on it

not sure if you actually need to do registry stuff, cause i have uefi but no tpm, and it installed fine

[wise quest]

I love how we can just say Linus and everyone knows who it is. Speaking of love, i love the way i can segue to our sponsor, ting mobile

[grizzled bloom]

Well yeah, he's probably the biggest tech influencer around right now. Definitely the biggest company group.

[cursive epoch]

Also the good thing with the hybrid install media is that

VBS is automatically off by default

So you won't lose perf instantly

Gotta love the modularity of windows installer

[grizzled bloom]

I guess I could also take a prepared install partition and slap it into a grub bootloader, would probably work right?

[cursive epoch]

Not sure ngl

But I think so, yes

[winged granite]

i dont think my mobo has support for nvme ssd should i get another one

it came with an optiplex i got for cheap off of ebay

i dont know if i can jsut switch motherboards so thats why im asking lol

[cursive epoch]

Your platform's too old for nvme

[winged granite]

i mean i havent seen it on the front and i havent checked the back of the board becuase that sounds hard

[finite elm]

Amazon has a monthly payment plan for a i9 10850k 🤔 was thinking of doing an Intel build and that's tempting even though I'd be paying 400$ for it.

[vernal cosmos]

you live near a microcenter?

[finite elm]

Microcenter has it for 369$ right now

[vernal cosmos]

it drops to 280$

[finite elm]

But paying for it over a 5 month period would be a lot easier on the wallet

Occasionally

[vernal cosmos]

from time to time

[finite elm]

I've been watching it and it hasn't in a few months

[vernal cosmos]

oh it was there last month

[dense frost]

not in the long run

rather put away some cash every month

[finite elm]

It was in August and July before I was back in the states

[vernal cosmos]

It was 280$ last month

sometime in september

[finite elm]

Whennnn i check microcenter literally every other day

Are you sure you didn't see the save 280$ and mistake that for the price? Lol

[brisk falcon]

AMD CPUs are supposed to run pretty hot?
I recently got a 5900X and a friend of mine got a 5950X. Both of them are idling around 45-50degrees and they can get up to 75 degrees from just playing Halo2.

We are both use to Intel CPU, but Google is telling us these temps arnt problems. Just wanted to be sure.

[vast meadow]

Temps under 90c ish under load is no problem, idle temps is not a great measurement as it depends what's running in the background as well as your room temp but sounds normal, they are toasty chips tho

[brisk falcon]

@vast meadow okay awesome! That makes us feel better. 🤣
What about that kind of heat resting on the mobo? Does it make it wear out faster?

[burnt spear]

On 5000 series I think 95 is the danger zone

[burnt spear]

Nah dw about it

Theyre built for it

[vast meadow]

Nope the motherboard itself, the only thing you want to worry about is vrm temp but aslong as you didn't put them on like sub ~150$ boards you're fine

[brisk falcon]

Awesome. Thanks y'all!

[vast meadow]

Np

[cyan raft]

I’d laugh so much if AMD decided to bundle a stock cooler with the 5800x and up

[vast meadow]

Lmao

[cyan raft]

I wonder how a TR stock cooler would look

[vast meadow]

lmao

[naive pendant]

w i d e

[finite elm]

My 5950x performs about the same. No worries

[noble rampart]

Ok, so I should contact them and ask them for a comparable model.

[grizzled bloom]

That's what I'd do

[digital kernel]

Cooler master does make a wraith cooler for threadrippers. Is big

Not stock, but probably the closest we'll ever get to it

[grizzled bloom]

That covers like 1/3 of the board geez

[digital kernel]

It's thicc

Unfortunately isn't that great at cooling

It's slightly worse than the U12S

[subtle crow]

looks cool though

[noble rampart]

Thanks!

[potent pine]

Hi guys, newbie to server from canada but been building my own machines for over 30 years, so are amd out performing intel when you look at cost, need a new hyper-v machine have been using a few I5's with 32 gig of ram and having great success but interested in 128 gig now that we can do it at an almost reasonable cost, feel free to offer up opinions and urls.

[vernal cosmos]

i5 11400 best price to perf if you can get it at msrp

Why do you need a hyperv machine tho

[grizzled bloom]

If you need to run a bunch of VMs at once you can't beat the 5950X without jumping to threadripper

12th gen intel will be interesting, but impractical for a VM box

[vernal cosmos]

@potent pine

[naive pendant]

the guy she tells you not to worry about

you

[mild jackal]

Lol, I thought the same about these threadripper blocks https://i.imgur.com/cSztqo6.jpg

[naive pendant]

dang

[naive pendant]

i think one of my ram sticks died

what do i do

[bronze jungle]

On my third gaming build; RAM questions for the community: Will 128gb of 3600 /16 DDR 4 make much of a performance difference vs got the same speed at 64GB?

[naive pendant]

WTF

thats so weird

i reseated them and they started working

uhh

[hollow thorn]

For what workload?

[hollow thorn]

Prob bad contact

I'd assume you're doing something other than gaming if 64gb and 128gb of ram are what you're choosing between

[smoky widget]

@naive pendant Always check that it clips and makes a sound of "click" then recheck each corner to make sure.

[vast meadow]

no, 32gb is plenty for gaming tbh

if youre just gaming no point going 128gb

64gb if youre power user how has 8-16 cores and never closes anything xD

assuming you dont render etc

[bronze jungle]

I do some video editing with Premiere and a power user

[hollow thorn]

What do you mean by "power user"

[rocky beacon]

"some video editing"

What resolution

[bronze jungle]

Some 1080, some 4k

[hollow thorn]

Tbf even doing 1080p, stacking a crap ton of effects and such will eat up ram

[bronze jungle]

For business, 3 monitors of open programs (outlook, word, excel, etc.), 50 webpages, several windows explorer windows,

[hollow thorn]

Prob won't really need over 32gb for those things

[bronze jungle]

Thats my concern; at most times the 64GB would be fine or overkill. Just wondering when video editing

[hollow thorn]

It's honestly going to be a question of what kind of content you believe you'll be making

[bronze jungle]

I can afford to get the 128 just done want to if theres no need or performance difference

[hollow thorn]

But 64gb will do just fine 98% of the time

[bronze jungle]

Agreed

[hollow thorn]

There will be no performance impact other than once you run out of ram

[bronze jungle]

So if it’s you and you had the cash; splurge or stay with 64

[vast meadow]

well what cpu would you be going with btw, id go 64gb personally

[bronze jungle]

5950x

With the Asus dark hero III my

MB

[vast meadow]

Okay good at least your not cheaping out on the cpu to get 128gb if you were, personally id get 2x32gb ballistix 3600mhz because its basically only 1 die in use, as well as being cheap and good with timings so you are pretty sure to buy another 2x32gb kit of ballistix 3600mhz if you need to upgrade in the future and have it run fine

[vast meadow]

i wouldnt get that motherboard

overpriced

what do you need in a motherboard

[bronze jungle]

Like the number of back high speed USB ports; like the higher end audio DAC, the number of SATA ports (I have 6 HD)

It is overpriced but there weren

Weren’t many that had my specs

[vast meadow]

yeah but just waste of money

[vast meadow]

you need any other features from your mobo?

also what country you in? us?

[bronze jungle]

In us; like the ability to have 2 M.2.2 SSD’s

[rocky beacon]

Most motherboards have 2 M.2 ports

Even $100 ones do now

[bronze jungle]

Was adding on my requirements from my previous post

[vast meadow]

@bronze jungle id go with one of these https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XV6qqs/gigabyte-x570-aorus-elite-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-aorus-elite-wifi or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cL3mP6/gigabyte-b550-aorus-pro-v2-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-aorus-pro-v2 or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2f4BD3/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-edge-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-mpg-b550-gaming-edge-wifi

[hollow thorn]

Also, most dacs really don't care about USB version and such

You can prob easily run like a Magnus modius stack off USB 2.0

Oh wait I misread

[hollow thorn]

If you buy an expensive board for the sound chip, just buy a better separate dac

[vast meadow]

all of the motherboards i listed have high speed usb and are very nice boards and have 6 sata ports and 2-3 m.2 slots

[hollow thorn]

Like a 20$ Meizu dongle beats alc1220 easily

[bronze jungle]

Nice board

[hollow thorn]

Keep in mind unify x being 2 dimms might not be great considering they want lots of ram

[vast meadow]

Woops missed that

[hollow thorn]

Yeye unify x is a 1dpc board built for mem oc

[vast meadow]

i meant tosend this one instead https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NgDkcf/msi-meg-b550-unify-atx-am4-motherboard-meg-b550-unify

[vast meadow]

meant to sent non x but sent x by accident

[bronze jungle]

Nice board

[vast meadow]

Yes so are the other 3 i sent

[bronze jungle]

Like all of those

Much thx

[vast meadow]

They're all nice boards that are way better value, no problem, if you want to send your list for advice i can give ya a few pointers btw

[bronze jungle]

Thx Pato;

[vast meadow]

Np :>

[limber dragon]

and nothing else (as in nothing else works as intended)

[hollow thorn]

lol

[vast meadow]

Ohh really? What's wrong with it?

[limber dragon]

tons of QC issues

bios chips killing themselves on the first update

pcie 4 being enabled results in not posting

those are the major 2, that ~70% of the boards have one or the other

[vast meadow]

yikes ty for the info

[limber dragon]

the review boards that were sent out ~3 months before launch are all fine, but retail boards are all plagued with issues

[vast meadow]

shame :(

[cunning ingot]

the other 30% suck at overclocking

[limber dragon]

the other 30% leave it at stock + jedec

[weary condor]

Looks fixable to me

[hollow thorn]

Got the ihs off somehow eh

[rocky beacon]

CPU itself is also bent

[weary condor]

Got it from best buy too

Ryzen 9 5950x

[burnt spear]

How much? Was it new?

[vast meadow]

Just return it

[weary condor]

Yup i am tomorrow but it was $800 new

[finite elm]

Still tempted to get that 10850k so i could use the Mobo instead of sell it.

Just don't know what I'd use it for 🤔

[weary condor]

Well idk what size the mobo is but i build used the same situation you’re in for an itx build. I bring it with me to air bnb’s so i can stream anything i want

[finite elm]

It's an ATX Mobo

I have an SFF build that i took on my deployment and then on my vacation

[weary condor]

Just build it to flex then

[finite elm]

True true

[weary condor]

Separated the cpu since it was only being held on by thermal compound

[limber dragon]

except its not supposed to be held together with thermal compound

[odd forum]

Does anyone know if the ASRock A520M-ITX/AC AM4 AMD A520 SATA 6Gb/s Mini ITX AMD Motherboard will support an AMD 5700G out of the box? The commpay's website says it is compatible with bios v 1.06 but the newegg product page does not list any zen 3 CPUs. I'm worried that it won't support it out of the box and I won't be able to upgrade the bios because I won't have a spare zen 2 CPU to perform the upgrade.

[weary condor]

The random sticky substance then

[limber dragon]

its supposed to be soldered on

[limber dragon]

most likely not, but it should have bios flashback/update features

[odd forum]

I've never updated a board that didn't support the CPU. Will I be able to flash the bios if I don't have a compatible CPU?

[limber dragon]

if it has a flashback feature, yes

check that the motherboard has flashback/update, and its generally a usb port on the rear io and a button alongside it

[weary condor]

Its def not solder. Im pretty sure i got an opened box but best buy sold it as new. The previous person did sus stuff

[odd forum]

Thanks. It does not appear to have the capability.

[cursive epoch]

that looks like

solder that's been cut

so that's oof

[limber dragon]

No, the solder on the io die and a ccd are both still there, what you see is the copper plane in the substrate

[cursive epoch]

Ah

How bad is that?

[limber dragon]

Its 100% a dead cpu

Silicon no longer attached to pcb

[cursive epoch]

yep

guessed it lmao

[weary condor]

I will make it work

No matter what

[cursive epoch]

it's toast

big rip

just return it tbh, not good as it's also already bent too

[weary condor]

I will just unbend it

[cursive epoch]

but the delid the previous owner did sure killed it

[weary condor]

Yea idk what he was doing

[grave star]

yo guys what's some good 2x16 gb ram that's white and has rgb

that's 3200 and cl-16

[cursive epoch]

just get 3600c16

some crucial ballistix

[weary condor]

T force argb

[vernal cosmos]

ballistix rgb

[radiant iron]

if my DDR is at 3200 and task manager shows the ram is at 1600 MHz is it still at 3200mhz?

[naive pendant]

task manager shows the actual clockspeed of the memory, which is half the actual transfer speed of the memory

hence the "double data rate" in the name of DDR

the "3200MHz" or "3600MHz" ram kits and whatnot you see on amazon and stuff should say MT/s instead of MHz

[carmine lynx]

Ram speed doesn't necessarily affect boot times does it?

[naive pendant]

not really

[vernal cosmos]

no it doesnt

cpuz does

task manager shows mts number

[naive pendant]

oh yea

[naive pendant]

you might just have to go into BIOS and make sure the memory is at the right settings.

[vernal cosmos]

Wait yeah 1600 is the worst ddr4 jdec

I thought it was 2133

go in and enable xmp

in the bios

[jagged raptor]

5600x or 5600g

almost 70 dollar difference for minimal performance downgrade

[vast meadow]

Well depending on region, but it should be like 20$ difference between them, 5600x if they already have a gpu, 5600g if they don't, the difference in perf isn't minimal it's just acceptable cuz nice graphics

[grizzled bloom]

5600g is comparable more to the 3600 in performance, some of the cache is removed to make room for the iGPU

[vivid lynx]

Been looking at the asus prime x570 Pro recently

[vast meadow]

I'd suggest not

Unless you really need the pcie lanes hust get a b550 aorus elite/aorus pro/gaming edge wifi/rog strix/tuf

[vivid lynx]

ive just been trying to find a decent board with usb c front and back with a good amount of type 3/2 usbs as well, doesn't need Wi-Fi cause i use ethernet

[vast meadow]

Your best bets for that then are msi gaming edge wifi/nzxt n7(bios is fine but eh for price) and gigabyte aorus pro x570

[vivid lynx]

aorus one looks promising, just trying to fine tune everything, so like having the correct port for my aio, get rid of hdds cause they be loud

[vast meadow]

Wdym the correct port for your aio?

[vivid lynx]

well my mobo doesnt have an aio connector

[supple sedge]

doesnt the aio just plug into cpu_fan on mobo?

[cursive epoch]

yes

or pump header if there's any

[vast meadow]

Pump headers are just fan connecters running at 100% so same difference

[cursive epoch]

^

pumps are meant to run at max

[vernal cosmos]

you can manually turn any fan header to a pump header in bios

[vast meadow]

Ye

[vivid lynx]

well i need to change it to get type c connector anyways aha

[digital kernel]

Don't they usually also have a higher max current?

[vast meadow]

Afaik no

You could be right tho

But should be same function

[jagged raptor]

intel i5 11600k good w MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI?

[vast meadow]

No, you need z590 or a z490 with bios flashback but very rare on z490, easier to get z590, also unless you want to oc as a hobby, 5600x and a b550 is cheaper and bit better

[subtle crow]

Do integrated graphics on say the ryzen 5 4600H compete with the 5600G? And how does Iris Xe intel graphics fit into the competition as well?

[noble rampart]

I figured out that they sent me back a different board, they just said nothing about the fact that it was different on the report I got.

So now my ram works at 3200mhz and stuff

[grizzled bloom]

4600H is a mobile processor, they don't really compare to any desktop chip

Iris is meh

[cursive epoch]

4600H is already a gen older

Can't really compare

[subtle crow]

I'm just looking for a budget gaming laptop for a friend of mine

super budget bascially

[cursive epoch]

4600H with no dgpu?

That's not a thing that exists

[subtle crow]

ok

maybe I'm confused on what the device specs were

[cursive epoch]

They at least have 1650 in em

[subtle crow]

my friend is used to turning down the graphical settings current playing off of a 2200u or something

but he wants to get a new device mostly because the one he plays on isn't his

[cursive epoch]

Well

I can certainly help, depending on their budget and where they live

[subtle crow]

US, lets say, can we get like the best 800ish and best 1000ish

it would be nice if I could give him different price ranges to choose from

[grizzled bloom]

That's not going to have a GPU in that price range, it'll be integrated graphics still unless you get lucky

[subtle crow]

I understand that, but he doesn't exactly make a load of money

and you don't think a 1650 would be in at least the 1000$ range?

The MSI GL65 that I'm looking out has a 1650

[grizzled bloom]

That comes down to the "if you're lucky" part

[subtle crow]

K, well I suppose he's going to have to rely on at least a little luck

I play cod warzone on an rx 550 equivalent quadro myself

so he can probably get away with integrated graphics

as he plays lighter games himself

[cursive epoch]

It's possible ngl

Some even has 3050ti sales

Lemme look for ya

@subtle crow https://www.newegg.com/phantom-black-lenovo-legion-5-15imh05h-81y600p3cf-gaming-entertainment/p/N82E16834645826