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cursive epoch Sep 18, 2021, 1:57 PM

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Yeah just get it I suppose

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Is it aorus elite?

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If so it's the right one

tawdry pebble Sep 18, 2021, 1:58 PM

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aight thx

cinder yarrow Sep 18, 2021, 4:07 PM

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hi, this is my first visit here, so please excuse if incorrect questions. Does anyone know if you can use threadripper strx4 memory with tr4 (2nd gen) mobo/cpu? I am wondering if i can run 256gb on an x399 with 2990wx

grizzled bloom Sep 18, 2021, 4:19 PM

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cinder yarrow hi, this is my first visit here, so please excuse if incorrect questions. Does...

Unregistered, non-ecc DDR4 memory can be used. It's the same memory.

cinder yarrow Sep 18, 2021, 4:30 PM

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yes, but some modules are rated for specific chipsets , and i am wondering if i can use memory rated for the strx40 (third gen) cpus on tr4 (second gen) cpu

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for instance, g.skill has a kit where the model number ends in an 'x' and is designated for x399 chipset (...128gtzrx)

tawdry pebble Sep 18, 2021, 5:08 PM

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tawdry pebble aight thx

anyone?

vast meadow Sep 18, 2021, 5:11 PM

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tawdry pebble anyone?

What?

tawdry pebble Sep 18, 2021, 5:15 PM

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vast meadow What?

light strips for under the case

vast meadow Sep 18, 2021, 5:16 PM

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tawdry pebble light strips for under the case

Lol you asked that in a different channel, don't have any specific recs just have a look on Amazon or something

tawdry pebble Sep 18, 2021, 5:17 PM

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vast meadow Lol you asked that in a different channel, don't have any specific recs just hav...

oh sorry

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no but i was thinking about something with software

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like corsair or rog strips

vast meadow Sep 18, 2021, 5:18 PM

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Don't think Corsair or any pc parts companies do rgb strips

tawdry pebble Sep 18, 2021, 5:21 PM

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they do

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also 144hz 1080p or 75hz 1440p

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same price

vast meadow Sep 18, 2021, 5:28 PM

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Huh?

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Ohh right

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Ehh depends on your specs/games/resolution

tawdry pebble Sep 18, 2021, 5:35 PM

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?

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o

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well bot mine

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but 6600xt and 5600x

vast meadow Sep 18, 2021, 6:05 PM

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tawdry pebble but 6600xt and 5600x

Then msi g241/g242

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vast meadow Sep 18, 2021, 7:57 PM

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12th gen leaked pricing eyes

limber dragon Sep 18, 2021, 7:58 PM

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man, its a good thing intel has changed the prices of things down to like a week before launch

boreal umbra Sep 18, 2021, 8:09 PM

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me praying 10th gen prices go down even more

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or better yet, 11400 becomes meta again

limber dragon Sep 18, 2021, 8:15 PM

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or ya know, 5600x

vivid lynx Sep 18, 2021, 8:19 PM

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They don't go very high in how many codes they have

hollow thorn Sep 18, 2021, 9:27 PM

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There's no non-k sku prices yet, unless they just get rid of that market segment :(

small pawn Sep 19, 2021, 3:11 AM

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Speaking of non-k skus, the 65w non-k i7-11700, got a deal on one with a B560 mobo and 16gb ram. I using a somewhat small mATX tower case. Question 1, will I be ok with temps if I've an 80mm front/92mm rear fan layout? Second question, it's non-K, I know I can't overclock, is a basic air cooler enough? I have tried the usual Google searches and every article is about the K sku. I will have the short stock Intel Collder and an old GeminII M4 as cooling options...

limber dragon Sep 19, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Stock cooler should be fine, maybe get a 212 if you're uncomfortable with temps

knotty heart Sep 19, 2021, 4:05 AM

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no get a aio

small pawn Sep 19, 2021, 4:17 AM

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Thanks, Sir Fritz. And Rick, I can't find a reasonable 92mm AIO, and the case can't mount anything larger. Thanks for the idea though, both of you.

limber dragon Sep 19, 2021, 4:24 AM

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there's 1 92mm afaik, and a 92mm rad is barely enough to cool 50w

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I'd check the total height you have for a cpu cooler, since you might have to get a shorty tower

mild jackal Sep 19, 2021, 4:25 AM

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Doesn't the SE 224 outperform a 212 at $13 less?

limber dragon Sep 19, 2021, 4:25 AM

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maybe, 212 is just easier to type

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and I've had personal experience with a 212, not yet with an se224

mild jackal Sep 19, 2021, 4:28 AM

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212 is great, on sale

limber dragon Sep 19, 2021, 4:30 AM

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212 was also super easy to mount, easier than noctua, scythe and thermaltake

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like asetek aio level easy

waxen panther Sep 19, 2021, 6:17 AM

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Any budget cpu for am4

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Preferrably with a integrated graphics

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I wanna build my youbger sister a pc where she can light game and do school works at a affordable cpu

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Somehow under 80 or 60 bucks?

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Or maybe under 100

cursive epoch Sep 19, 2021, 6:28 AM

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nope

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you can't find anything under that price with am4 at all

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that has igpu

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vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 7:39 AM

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limber dragon and I've had personal experience with a 212, not yet with an se224

Can recommend the se 224, have one on my rig cooling a ryzen 5 3600, it works well

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 7:40 AM

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waxen panther Any budget cpu for am4

Athlon 3000g

waxen panther Sep 19, 2021, 7:42 AM

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Is the a8 9600 good?

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 7:43 AM

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No

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Wait nvm that should be decent

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Well alright

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But athlon 3000g is a good bit better

split copper Sep 19, 2021, 8:11 AM

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is it an am4 chip?

cursive epoch Sep 19, 2021, 8:11 AM

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a8 9600 sucks

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might as well get 3000g

waxen panther Sep 19, 2021, 8:38 AM

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Will it perform decent on gsming?

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Its a 2 core processor

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Maybe a bit of school works and light gaming such as valorant and csgo

split copper Sep 19, 2021, 8:40 AM

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no it isn't

waxen panther Sep 19, 2021, 8:41 AM

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Ill just look at some benchmarks and consider getting it

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Thanks guys

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Im building it for my little sister

cursive epoch Sep 19, 2021, 8:46 AM

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it is 2c/4t

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but should do those games just ok

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 9:06 AM

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waxen panther Will it perform decent on gsming?

The 3000g isn't decent really i meant it's decent for like a 75$ cpu

cursive epoch Sep 19, 2021, 9:09 AM

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^

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it's just ok for what it is

waxen panther Sep 19, 2021, 9:16 AM

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If it can do simple gami v and offie work im fine witb it thanks

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 10:56 AM

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It'll run things just not well

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Just ehh put dual channel ram on it please

split copper Sep 19, 2021, 11:07 AM

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zoomy ram

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but not that zoomy

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 11:30 AM

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Like 3000/3200mhz zoomy

split copper Sep 19, 2021, 12:02 PM

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zoomy

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perfect zoomy

waxen panther Sep 19, 2021, 1:03 PM

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vast meadow Like 3000/3200mhz zoomy

aight

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ill just put 2 4gb sticks on to it

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 1:04 PM

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Yeah better than 1x8gb

waxen panther Sep 19, 2021, 1:04 PM

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thanks @vast meadow

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 1:04 PM

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Np

waxen panther Sep 19, 2021, 1:04 PM

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Actually contacted a guy near our place about my gpu

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and said they can fix it for 30 bucks

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basically a steal

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lmao

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 1:04 PM

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Seems to good to be true but gl

split copper Sep 19, 2021, 1:06 PM

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hope it works out

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high tapir Sep 19, 2021, 3:38 PM

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HyperX Fury: Opinion?

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 4:05 PM

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high tapir HyperX Fury: Opinion?

Bleh unless it's a cheap kit for 3200cl16 or something, they don't really do high end ram, the chips they use aint good either

high tapir Sep 19, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Ok

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finite elm Sep 19, 2021, 4:39 PM

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So how do I know if my ram is stable or not?

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I have 4000mhz ram, just for the lols, it's reading as 4000mhz in bios with XMP and in task manager as well. Any other place i should check?

dim cloak Sep 19, 2021, 4:49 PM

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CpuZ

dim cloak Sep 19, 2021, 4:50 PM

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finite elm I have 4000mhz ram, just for the lols, it's reading as 4000mhz in bios with XMP ...

Cpuz will tell ya what your memory is running at as well

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 5:00 PM

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finite elm So how do I know if my ram is stable or not?

test mem 5 extreme anta77 profile or occt mem test

finite elm Sep 19, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Thank you

cursive epoch Sep 19, 2021, 5:37 PM

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be careful tho

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if it's unstable it could kill windows

long yew Sep 19, 2021, 5:44 PM

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1.364v cpu voltage okay for a stock ryzen 3700x or should I turn it down a little?

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I don't really need all of its power

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yet

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my motherboard wanted to give it over 1.4 by default which I found weird (too high)

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 5:51 PM

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long yew 1.364v cpu voltage okay for a stock ryzen 3700x or should I turn it down a littl...

too high, id just use pbo instead of manual oc

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if youre not ocing it should be fine probs just a tiny voltage spike

old vessel Sep 19, 2021, 6:14 PM

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3200->4000 how much fps difference is this realistically at 3440x1440? Is there a benchmark chart for ram speeds?

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 6:15 PM

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depends for cpu

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and game

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and if you already have 3200 its not worth it

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and what latency etc too

old vessel Sep 19, 2021, 6:20 PM

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5950x.

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I'm pretty sure it's within like 2 fps but I could be wrong. Depending on game tells me it's an implementation thing, no?

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Get 3600cl16

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Ryzen can't reliably run 4000mhz

old vessel Sep 19, 2021, 6:21 PM

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Yeah I bought 3200gb drunk last night by mistake xd guess im swapping them out~

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 6:21 PM

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If you can cancel yes

old vessel Sep 19, 2021, 6:21 PM

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3600cl16 royal z or dominators?

old vessel Sep 19, 2021, 6:21 PM

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vast meadow If you can cancel yes

I'll be ok

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 6:21 PM

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I'd get ballistix

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Unless trident z is cheaper

old vessel Sep 19, 2021, 6:22 PM

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I actually am okay with paying for the aesthetic price difference

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Is there no fast/b die of those ram models?

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Are*

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 6:23 PM

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I mean you could get like 3600cl14 probs but stupid expensive

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B die isn't worth it unless you're gonna be doing ram overclocking

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Running b die at xmp is burning money

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you in the us?

old vessel Sep 19, 2021, 6:23 PM

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Probably won't care THAT much. My use cases are I coach pro gamers, I game dev, and I play gaems.

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US yea

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 6:23 PM

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how much ram?

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32 or 64gb im guessing

old vessel Sep 19, 2021, 6:24 PM

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I just haven't updated my rig since 2014 aside from a quick 2019 swap over. Rebuying my full rig now.

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32 min, 64 if not outrageous

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My pc is 5950x, Aorus Master, ftw3 3090 (might SLI or watercool in a loop), 2TB nvme, etc etc

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 6:25 PM

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want rgb or nah?

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sli is useless for gaming

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fyi

old vessel Sep 19, 2021, 6:25 PM

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I'm blinging this one out, all my old pcs were no rgb

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Yeah it's going for game dev and maybe some machine learning

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 6:25 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/33WBD3/crucial-ballistix-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k16g36c16u4bl for 32gb

old vessel Sep 19, 2021, 6:25 PM

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I have..weird hobbies lmao

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Those look solid, but does royal z or dominator have something similar? Thanks for all your help btw.

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I'm looking for that spaceship vibe

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Lmao

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 6:28 PM

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old vessel Those look solid, but does royal z or dominator have something similar? Thanks ...

i mean yes but just pay bit more for slightly worse probs wont notice diff tho

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heres the g skill options for 32gb https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#Z=32768002,65536002&S=3600,5100&L=30,160&sort=price&m=17&X=0,26634

Choose Memory

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and heres 64gb https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#Z=65536002&S=3600,5100&L=30,160&sort=price&m=17

Choose Memory

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@old vessel if youre going 64gb i would really consider ballistix as the g skill is significantly worse :/ https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VCCFf7/crucial-ballistix-rgb-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k32g36c16u4bl

Crucial Ballistix RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

finite elm Sep 19, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Oh

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Now you tell me 😞

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 7:22 PM

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finite elm Now you tell me 😞

ohh right yeah 4000mhz can be stable but rarely is, didnt read specs in your name kinda assumed it was intel cuz 4000mhz

finite elm Sep 19, 2021, 7:44 PM

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vast meadow ohh right yeah 4000mhz can be stable but rarely is, didnt read specs in your nam...

5800x/3080 ti has the 4000mhz.

It's in a b550 taichi which said it supports up to 4600mhz or something

mild jackal Sep 19, 2021, 8:01 PM

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Post a cpuz memory screenshot

finite elm Sep 19, 2021, 8:02 PM

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I'm not at home now. But I'll do it

vast meadow Sep 19, 2021, 8:10 PM

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finite elm 5800x/3080 ti has the 4000mhz. It's in a b550 taichi which said it supports up...

I mean that doesn't really matter, most do just has to be desynced with fclk which bad for perf

finite elm Sep 19, 2021, 8:21 PM

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What's that

grizzled bloom Sep 19, 2021, 8:24 PM

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The infinity fabric speed (fclk) is only going to be stable up to a certain point, for most Zen 3 5000X series chips that's around 3800 (1900) max with a little voltage tuning. If you run memory at a speed faster than the fclk, then there's a delay caused by them being out of sync that can completely negate any benefit of faster memory if not reduce performance.

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Which part?

finite elm Sep 19, 2021, 8:42 PM

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It kept resending that. You explained it

grizzled bloom Sep 19, 2021, 8:45 PM

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Oh lol ok

hallow matrix Sep 19, 2021, 10:36 PM

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Whats the core differences between x570 amd b550

limber dragon Sep 19, 2021, 10:37 PM

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pcie 4 off the chipset vs pcie 3

old vessel Sep 19, 2021, 10:37 PM

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vast meadow <@!184299131487911936> if youre going 64gb i would really consider ballistix as ...

I'll consider getting it! Anything as nice looking as dominators etc that aren't worse performance?

grizzled bloom Sep 19, 2021, 11:28 PM

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hallow matrix Whats the core differences between x570 amd b550

As Fitz said the chipset PCIe lanes are gen 4 on X570, and there's 6 more lanes at that. (The CPU lanes on the top PCIe slot are still gen 4 on B550, as well as the top M.2 slot)
There's also potentially 2 more USB ports on X570 and they can be a faster generation.
There's a couple downsides to X570 too, including the chipset fan (which can fail and makes more noise), it's more susceptible to the USB dropout issues (bios update may help), and the VRM design is often older so the power delivery may not be as good.

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2021, 11:29 PM

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(b550 and x570 both have the usb issue, both supposedly fixed by agesa 1.2.0.2)

grizzled bloom Sep 19, 2021, 11:30 PM

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Yes but I've seen it more frequently on X570 personally, so you can consider that anecdotal evidence

cunning ingot Sep 20, 2021, 1:38 AM

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grizzled bloom As Fitz said the chipset PCIe lanes are gen 4 on X570, and there's 6 more lanes ...

and price and memory topology worse

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grizzled bloom Sep 20, 2021, 1:51 AM

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@amber turtle With a Ryzen 3 1200 you'll want any DDR4 memory rated at 3200 for best results

limber dragon Sep 20, 2021, 1:53 AM

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it probably wont be able to do 3200 with just enabling xmp though

amber turtle Sep 20, 2021, 1:55 AM

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what size would each memory stick need to be? sorry not understand how to choose.

grizzled bloom Sep 20, 2021, 1:55 AM

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Size won't matter much, could be 8GB or 32GB each technically, but higher capacity won't run as fast

amber turtle Sep 20, 2021, 1:56 AM

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So basically according to MB, maximum is 128GB and I can can split that into 8GB on each memory chip?

grizzled bloom Sep 20, 2021, 1:59 AM

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You'll have 4 slots, so max is 32GB per slot

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You can do 8GB each and make it 32GB total

amber turtle Sep 20, 2021, 2:07 AM

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its says "(32 GB single DIMM capacity) " so does that mean I have to use a 32gb chip per slot, right?

grizzled bloom Sep 20, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Up to 32GB per DIMM (slot), that's just a max

amber turtle Sep 20, 2021, 2:09 AM

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so when it says capacity doesn't mean it has to be the 32gb and can used different sizes like the 8gb?

grizzled bloom Sep 20, 2021, 2:16 AM

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Yeah that's just the upper limit, it can be 8gb, I think there's also some 4GB floating around

amber turtle Sep 20, 2021, 2:24 AM

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GReat thanks for the info.

vast meadow Sep 20, 2021, 6:52 AM

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old vessel I'll consider getting it! Anything as nice looking as dominators etc that aren'...

Not really

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Or at least not on pc part picker

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weary terrace Sep 20, 2021, 4:41 PM

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I have found that i receive much more game crashes than my buddy, he games on a ryzen 9 and i on a server processor (xeon), could this be because I game on a server grade processor that is not meant for gaming in generally ??

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i apologize for wrong grammar

vast meadow Sep 20, 2021, 4:43 PM

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weary terrace I have found that i receive much more game crashes than my buddy, he games on a ...

Ehh no, crashes are usually due to game files being corrupt, an unstable overclock or unstable drivers

weary terrace Sep 20, 2021, 4:45 PM

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oh, kk thanks i have recently realised that i do have outdated drivers

vast meadow Sep 20, 2021, 4:49 PM

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weary terrace oh, kk thanks i have recently realised that i do have outdated drivers

I would run the debug steps in #windows-ios pins as well btw could be windows

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2021, 4:49 PM

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also possible game issues

vast meadow Sep 20, 2021, 4:50 PM

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Yeah could just be a crashy game

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2021, 4:52 PM

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also keep in mind older chips can be EOL and no longer receiving support and updates

weary terrace Sep 20, 2021, 4:57 PM

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vast meadow Yeah could just be a crashy game

yeah early access game DO crash more often

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its actually SYNTHETIK (out of EA though but still crashes )

long yew Sep 20, 2021, 6:32 PM

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so my motherboard's BIOS seems to simply ignore my voltage settings if I go below about 1.36v (CPU)

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should I try ryzen master?

vast meadow Sep 20, 2021, 6:45 PM

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long yew so my motherboard's BIOS seems to simply ignore my voltage settings if I go belo...

Well 1 that's wayy too high, 2 unless it's ryzen 1000 or 2000, precision boost overdrive is gonna be better than a manual oc anyway

long yew Sep 20, 2021, 6:48 PM

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yeah I'm not sure why but the auto settings for the motherboard (B550-a pro, updated BIOS) actually want to give it like, 1.4v by default (r3700x, stock speed)

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I'm trying to get it to hit 1.25

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2021, 6:48 PM

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weird

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trying to set vcore to 1.25v and it's not giving it that..?

long yew Sep 20, 2021, 6:50 PM

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no

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the value changes to my custom setting

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but the voltage does not change

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2021, 6:51 PM

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What are you trying to set, where are you trying to set it, and where are you checking for the value?

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(Example, trying to set vSOC in the bios, checking via hwinfo64 in windows)

vast meadow Sep 20, 2021, 6:52 PM

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long yew yeah I'm not sure why but the auto settings for the motherboard (B550-a pro, upd...

Well if you leave everything default was it actually going up to 1.4v?

long yew Sep 20, 2021, 6:52 PM

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vast meadow Well if you leave everything default was it actually going up to 1.4v?

yeah

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vcore voltage, motherboard OC settings, checked the values in the mobo itself and cpu-z

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still wants to keep it at 1.36 for some reason

vast meadow Sep 20, 2021, 6:52 PM

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Like in Windows etc?

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2021, 6:52 PM

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mobo oc settings where, bios?

long yew Sep 20, 2021, 6:53 PM

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yes, bios

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2021, 6:53 PM

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Check what mode the voltage is on

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there's offset mode, overwrite mode, and something else

long yew Sep 20, 2021, 6:53 PM

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it's set to override

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2021, 6:53 PM

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You are saving and exiting then going to windows and checking cpuz, correct?

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(Also, I might just be on an earlier version of cpuz, but it doesn't seem to want to display voltage for some reason)

long yew Sep 20, 2021, 6:55 PM

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hollow thorn You are saving and exiting then going to windows and checking cpuz, correct?

yeah

vernal cosmos Sep 20, 2021, 6:55 PM

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Cpuz shows voltages

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But not reliably

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2021, 6:55 PM

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Then try putting a load on it (occt any cpu test works, prime95 if you want, etc), I don't think it's happening, but maybe it just idles really high for some reason

long yew Sep 20, 2021, 6:56 PM

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well I've looked at it in msi dragon center too, it says the same

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2021, 6:56 PM

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(don't use dragon center)

long yew Sep 20, 2021, 6:56 PM

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I only use it for voltage checking and fan control

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2021, 6:56 PM

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try not to, and set fan curves in bios

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the software does some wacky wacky things

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hell

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dragon center might be your issue

long yew Sep 20, 2021, 6:57 PM

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let's see what happens if I disable it from auto launching

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2021, 6:57 PM

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uninstall if possible, at least tempoarily

vast meadow Sep 20, 2021, 6:57 PM

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hollow thorn (Also, I might just be on an earlier version of cpuz, but it doesn't seem to wan...

Mine does

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2021, 6:57 PM

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My version just broke ig

long yew Sep 20, 2021, 6:57 PM

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I have the latest version of cpu-z, downloaded it september 15th-ish

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actually let's see what it says now

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I've run prime 95 in blended mode for an hour or so just to see temps

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they're fine, and the voltage seems to stay the same too

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I'll figure this out lol

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2021, 7:04 PM

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Blend is

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Not a great stress test

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And smallfft is not good for Ryzen chips, unrealistically stressful

vast meadow Sep 20, 2021, 7:05 PM

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Also i wouldn't use cpu z to measure voltage I'd use hwinfo if you can

long yew Sep 20, 2021, 7:05 PM

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should I use a different test in prime 95 or another benchmark?

vast meadow Sep 20, 2021, 7:07 PM

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Small ftt

vernal cosmos Sep 20, 2021, 7:07 PM

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P95 smallest ffts good enuf imo

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2021, 7:09 PM

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Basically

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Smallfft will make it hot

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Really hot

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Gaming probably won't ever make it that hot

vernal cosmos Sep 20, 2021, 7:10 PM

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Smallfft is a cooler test more than anything else

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Or to be used if the oven or hot plate in ur house goes out and you need to cook some food

long yew Sep 20, 2021, 7:11 PM

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lol

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this build runs surprisingly cool even when it's busy

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so there's that

vernal cosmos Sep 20, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Not all 100% cpu loads are created equal

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Run small ffts

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Real test of it runs cool

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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Keep in mind smallfft is stronk enough to make the CPU stop boosting, so even though temps might seem similar, the cpu could be running at a much lower freq

hallow matrix Sep 20, 2021, 7:23 PM

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How much of a bottleneck would someone have if they tried running a modern system with a old motherboard

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Like

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Old enough that its green

vast meadow Sep 20, 2021, 7:24 PM

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ehh you cant put a modern system in an old motherboard

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as you cant put a new cpu in an old socket

hallow matrix Sep 20, 2021, 7:26 PM

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Say if someone did, Would it caus their computer to have issues like yellow screens / turn on, No display and than restarts itself?

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2021, 7:29 PM

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hallow matrix Say if someone did, Would it caus their computer to have issues like yellow scre...

The oldest motherboard you can put a modern chip (11th gen Intel and Zen 3), are 2-4 years old, not exactly that old

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And if you put an old chip in an old motherboard, things can be iffy since eol

long yew Sep 20, 2021, 10:04 PM

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used ryzen master to manually get it down to 1.1375v

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running fine

vast meadow Sep 20, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Weird

long yew Sep 21, 2021, 1:08 AM

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ran small ffts for a couple hours, peak temp 76

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not planning on running it again lol

rigid sluice Sep 21, 2021, 3:03 AM

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Overclocking a i9 be like https://youtu.be/xulAgMNK5Jk?t=161

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rapid thunder Sep 21, 2021, 3:16 AM

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Are there any MOBOs that would be compatible with AMD Ryzen 1st through 3rd gen or 1st through 4th gen CPUs either with or without a BIOS update?

I'm contemplating drafting a PC build for a friend and given the availability of parts it would be nice if I could build something with a 1st or 2nd gen Ryzen CPU that could be later upgraded to a 3rd or 4th gen chip.

split copper Sep 21, 2021, 3:17 AM

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rigid sluice Overclocking a i9 be like https://youtu.be/xulAgMNK5Jk?t=161

fx 9590

cursive epoch Sep 21, 2021, 3:32 AM

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rapid thunder Are there any MOBOs that would be compatible with AMD Ryzen 1st through 3rd gen ...

nope

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there's no such thing

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unless you wanna live with old chipset

rigid sluice Sep 21, 2021, 3:33 AM

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I think B450s will do it

cursive epoch Sep 21, 2021, 3:33 AM

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asrock does some of that

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but others nah

rigid sluice Sep 21, 2021, 3:33 AM

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But you need a god tier B450 for power delivery and stuff

midnight pollen Sep 21, 2021, 4:23 AM

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rigid sluice Overclocking a i9 be like https://youtu.be/xulAgMNK5Jk?t=161

omg at 2:45 i love that actor

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https://youtu.be/NBUHvAu4qSI

YouTube

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maybe spoilers if anyone hasn't seen the movie lol

chilly fulcrum Sep 21, 2021, 6:34 AM

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intel board says it supports 8-9th gen cpus, i have a 10th gen cpu. can i flash the bios to update it to 10th gen or is it just 8-9 strictly?

dense frost Sep 21, 2021, 6:42 AM

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what is the make and model of your board?

chilly fulcrum Sep 21, 2021, 6:43 AM

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its in the newegg shuffle with a 3060 ti that i am seeing if i want to enter for it https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145095?Item=N82E16813145095

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and the cpu is a 10400f

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ive changed my mind anyways, dont like the board

vernal cosmos Sep 21, 2021, 6:53 AM

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chilly fulcrum ive changed my mind anyways, dont like the board

you can always sell it on ebay...

cursive epoch Sep 21, 2021, 7:42 AM

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^

vast meadow Sep 21, 2021, 10:16 AM

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Obvs you'll loose money but you might make like 70$ back off it

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2021, 11:31 AM

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chilly fulcrum intel board says it supports 8-9th gen cpus, i have a 10th gen cpu. can i flash ...

Completely different socket

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Lga1151v2 vs lga1200

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Just Intel things

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(no, bios update won't do anything, because the chip wouldn't fit)

chilly fulcrum Sep 21, 2021, 12:07 PM

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ok thanks guys

vernal cosmos Sep 21, 2021, 1:23 PM

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Important reminder to anyone on the AM4 AMD platform to update chipset drivers ASAP

dense frost Sep 21, 2021, 1:25 PM

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@vernal cosmos ,whats going on?

vernal cosmos Sep 21, 2021, 1:27 PM

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https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-chipset-vulnerability-leaks-passwords

Tom's Hardware

AMD Chipset Vulnerability Leaks Passwords, Patch Available

Apply this patch right away if you have an AMD CPU.

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@dense frost

dense frost Sep 21, 2021, 1:29 PM

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👍

grizzled bloom Sep 21, 2021, 3:30 PM

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rapid thunder Are there any MOBOs that would be compatible with AMD Ryzen 1st through 3rd gen ...

I know for a fact that the MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max has one of the longest compatibility lists, from ryzen 1000-5000 including all the odd ones and ones with integrated graphics.
Max boards in general should have the best compatibility overall, since they have more flash memory for bios to hold the extra agesa code.

rapid thunder Sep 21, 2021, 3:44 PM

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grizzled bloom I know for a fact that the MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max has one of the longest compa...

Thanks!

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old vessel Sep 21, 2021, 5:35 PM

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What's the sweet spot for gaming only ram? 3200 or 3600? Gonna buy some royal zs cause xhibit is my role model

vast meadow Sep 21, 2021, 5:54 PM

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old vessel What's the sweet spot for gaming only ram? 3200 or 3600? Gonna buy some royal ...

For ryzen, 3600mhz, for intel 3200 is fine but can benefit from like 4400+mhz just ryzen can't push those numbers

grizzled bloom Sep 21, 2021, 5:55 PM

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Well ryzen can push those numbers, it's just not beneficial

vast meadow Sep 21, 2021, 6:06 PM

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grizzled bloom Well ryzen *can* push those numbers, it's just not beneficial

Yeah i was simplifying it lol, it can't push them without loosing performance and manually settings fclk to 1/2 the ram speed soo

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2021, 7:15 PM

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vast meadow For ryzen, 3600mhz, for intel 3200 is fine but can benefit from like 4400+mhz ju...

Intel likes 3600 over 3200 when it's a available too but yes

vast meadow Sep 21, 2021, 7:18 PM

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hollow thorn Intel likes 3600 over 3200 when it's a available too but yes

Yeah but you can usually get 4000cl18 sticks at the same price as 3600cl16 so why bother wormyShrug

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2021, 7:18 PM

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Because ballistix

vast meadow Sep 21, 2021, 7:19 PM

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I mean obvs if you gonna manual oc sure

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But if they just running at xmp

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2021, 7:19 PM

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I mean 4000c18 does tend to have pretty loose timings, and more expensive

vast meadow Sep 21, 2021, 7:34 PM

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Last time i checked they were same, ballistix has gone down for 16gb but for 32 this is nice price https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dqbTwP/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-4000-cl18-memory-f4-4000c18d-32gvk

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory

wise quest Sep 21, 2021, 7:36 PM

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grizzled bloom I know for a fact that the MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max has one of the longest compa...

I have that one :)

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2021, 7:36 PM

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Yea 18-22-22-42 kinda pretty loose imo

vast meadow Sep 21, 2021, 7:37 PM

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Yeah but 30$ cheaper

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Than ballistix

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Granted there is a ripjaws 16 19 19 39 for 155

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2021, 7:40 PM

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Cheaper for now

vast meadow Sep 21, 2021, 7:41 PM

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Yes

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Nice half way kit to ballistix

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Between that and random 3200

grizzled bloom Sep 21, 2021, 7:49 PM

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If you're going high end like that filter the pcpp results by 1.4v+ and all the sticks will have good timings

vast meadow Sep 21, 2021, 7:50 PM

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vast meadow Last time i checked they were same, ballistix has gone down for 16gb but for 32 ...

@grizzled bloom these are 1.4v lol

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But neat trick

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I was wondering how to kinda filter timings

grizzled bloom Sep 21, 2021, 7:51 PM

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If you want the really good stuff filter 1.45v

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Mostly b-die and rev.e then

vast meadow Sep 21, 2021, 7:52 PM

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That's big monies tho ;-;

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Definitely hitting diminishing returns lmao

grizzled bloom Sep 21, 2021, 7:53 PM

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Yeah but that's mostly high bin goodies

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It's either shell out for binned sticks or hope you get lucky buying a cheaper set

vast meadow Sep 21, 2021, 7:56 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/tgn1-zombie-orpheus-onward-the-gamers-harper-gif-17195840

Tenor

grizzled bloom Sep 21, 2021, 8:00 PM

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I rolled the dice on my sticks for sure. It was a set of 16gb 4133 19-23-23 at 1.45v rgb from adata for $110 on sale. B-die for sure with that voltage and brand but the binning is the dice roll there. I ended up about average bin so a win for me.

vast meadow Sep 21, 2021, 8:07 PM

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Nice

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2021, 9:35 PM

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grizzled bloom If you're going high end like that filter the pcpp results by 1.4v+ and all the ...

Unless it's djr and it'll take a lot to cool tbh, not bad but rev e/rev b/b die neater for most people that just want something to daily

vast meadow Sep 21, 2021, 9:36 PM

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Rev e/b are the lightest on the imc too

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Which is noice

winged roost Sep 22, 2021, 2:53 PM

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Please suggest a motherboard for AMD Ryzen 5 5600X

burnt spear Sep 22, 2021, 2:54 PM

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Budget?

winged roost Sep 22, 2021, 2:54 PM

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Rs. 25000

vast meadow Sep 22, 2021, 3:02 PM

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Rs?

winged roost Sep 22, 2021, 3:08 PM

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vast meadow Rs?

Rupees

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Is MSI B550A Pro good?

vast meadow Sep 22, 2021, 3:09 PM

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winged roost Rupees

@vernal cosmos

vast meadow Sep 22, 2021, 3:31 PM

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winged roost Is MSI B550A Pro good?

B550 a pro is okay, any other options?

vast meadow Sep 22, 2021, 3:59 PM

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Ty

wintry girder Sep 22, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Does the gigabyte b460m support 3000mhz ram?

cursive epoch Sep 22, 2021, 5:03 PM

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depends on the cpu

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but just get b560

vast meadow Sep 22, 2021, 5:08 PM

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wintry girder Does the gigabyte b460m support 3000mhz ram?

It does if you have an i7 or i9 in it but just get a b560 or z490/z590 for the i7s i9s anyway really

wintry girder Sep 22, 2021, 5:08 PM

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I just switched to a 560m since im using a 10100f

vast meadow Sep 22, 2021, 5:09 PM

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@wintry girder usually 3200mhz ram is actually cheaper, what country are you in?

wintry girder Sep 22, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Us

vast meadow Sep 22, 2021, 5:09 PM

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16gb ram?

wintry girder Sep 22, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Ye

vast meadow Sep 22, 2021, 5:10 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5

Silicon Power 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

wintry girder Sep 22, 2021, 5:11 PM

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I was going to get the exact same one but the 3000mhz version, thats so weird how 3200 is cheaper

vast meadow Sep 22, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Just is

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3000mhz isn't very common

coral owl Sep 22, 2021, 10:02 PM

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Anyone have a good way to delete the data from a secondary drive? I cloned my HDD to a SSD and want to wipe my old HDD so I can plug it back in and not have my computer boot off of it and so I can use it for other stuff

hollow thorn Sep 22, 2021, 10:04 PM

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Dban

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Bios also tend to have some sort of drive wiping software

coral owl Sep 22, 2021, 10:04 PM

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Alright. Thanks

hollow thorn Sep 22, 2021, 10:05 PM

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Also some softwares, forgot name

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Stuff like sdelete
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/sdelete

SDelete - Windows Sysinternals

Securely overwrite your sensitive files and cleanse your free space of previously deleted files using this DoD-compliant secure delete program.

rigid sluice Sep 23, 2021, 3:38 AM

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Lol just use DBAN

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That will solve all of your problems

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Guttman Wipe that sucker

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Or just make a multi boot USB with like 100 tools And operating systems on it

wide dune Sep 23, 2021, 5:19 AM

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I have an asrock b450 with 32gb ram and a 3060 for my build. What cpu could I get for a budget of $300-$400?

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Asrock b450 steel legend*

burnt spear Sep 23, 2021, 5:24 AM

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wide dune I have an asrock b450 with 32gb ram and a 3060 for my build. What cpu could I ge...

I mean depending on what you do 5600x, 3700x, 3600 are all options, but 3600 shouldnt be bought at full msrp anymore, and 3700x same. 3600- around 150 used 3700x- around 200 used- 5600x- 250 used 300 new

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There's others but those are the ones that come to mind, 5800x would be super overkill for a 3060 if you're just gaming

wide dune Sep 23, 2021, 5:29 AM

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What about if I’m streaming 1080p 60fps?

cursive epoch Sep 23, 2021, 5:32 AM

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5600X would be sweet for your budget regardless

wide dune Sep 23, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Ok thanks!

dense frost Sep 23, 2021, 6:15 AM

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any particular reason?

dense frost Sep 23, 2021, 6:16 AM

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wide dune What about if I’m streaming 1080p 60fps?

your GPU will handle streaming workload

winged roost Sep 23, 2021, 6:26 AM

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X570?

dense frost Sep 23, 2021, 6:30 AM

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winged roost X570?

you dont need X570 unless you intend to use multiple PCIe gen 4 NVME SSDs

winged roost Sep 23, 2021, 6:31 AM

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dense frost you dont need X570 unless you intend to use multiple PCIe gen 4 NVME SSDs

Ok

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Is MSI b550 a pro good? Ant pc has all MSI motherboards available with them

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ant-pc.com

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 7:20 AM

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winged roost Is MSI b550 a pro good? Ant pc has all MSI motherboards available with them

Scroll up, someone answered this cuz you asked it yesterday

winged roost Sep 23, 2021, 7:59 AM

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@vernal cosmos https://www.ant-pc.com/gaming-pc/pharaoh/ant-pc-pharaoh-rz500

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dense frost Sep 23, 2021, 8:07 AM

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thats a really old cpu cooler

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rather go for the Lian Li one

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:15 AM

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winged roost <@499525349109923844> https://www.ant-pc.com/gaming-pc/pharaoh/ant-pc-pharaoh-rz...

https://www.ant-pc.com/gaming-pc/pharaoh/ant-pc-pharaoh-rz500/614c3674ae548 I'd do something like this

Ant PC

ANT PC PHARAOH RZ500

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winged roost Sep 23, 2021, 8:27 AM

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vast meadow https://www.ant-pc.com/gaming-pc/pharaoh/ant-pc-pharaoh-rz500/614c3674ae548 I'd ...

Which SSD?

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 9:04 AM

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vast meadow https://www.ant-pc.com/gaming-pc/pharaoh/ant-pc-pharaoh-rz500/614c3674ae548 I'd ...

https://www.ant-pc.com/gaming-pc/pharaoh/ant-pc-pharaoh-rz500/614c3674ae548/

Ant PC

ANT PC PHARAOH RZ500

Discover your Gaming PCs and Servers today. ANT-PC offers top gaming and Server pcs with high performance, best dependable segments, overclocked processors, and Liquid cooling for your Workstations

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Ugh i put down as 500gb and it reset stuff

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Just get the adata one that costs like 2000 more than 256gb

gilded jewel Sep 23, 2021, 3:59 PM

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can anyone suggest me a good budget motherboard?

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I was eyeing the msi b450 tomahawk max ii

cursive epoch Sep 23, 2021, 4:00 PM

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For what cpu?

gilded jewel Sep 23, 2021, 4:00 PM

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but I saw that it didn't have any support for newer cpu

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um not sure yet

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I'll have to buy it

cursive epoch Sep 23, 2021, 4:00 PM

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whelp

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You gotta be sure of your budget for mobo and cpu

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So that you could actually decide

gilded jewel Sep 23, 2021, 4:00 PM

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oh

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I am willing to spend more on the motherboard for now so I can just upgrade the cpu later

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so I'm looking for a motherboard that can support a cheap cpu for now but can upgrade down the road

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 4:03 PM

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gilded jewel I was eyeing the msi b450 tomahawk max ii

For intel 10th/11th gen i3/i5 b560 pro vdh (wifi) for i7/i9 z590 ud (ac), for ryzen 5000, r5, b550 pro vdh (wifi) for 7/9 and up(also nice for 5 in budget) b550(m) tuf (wifi) or b550 msi gaming edge wifi

gilded jewel Sep 23, 2021, 4:04 PM

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I'm also looking for a full atx

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 4:04 PM

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gilded jewel so I'm looking for a motherboard that can support a cheap cpu for now but can up...

Depends what your definition of cheap is, also no point really, all the sockets are end of life very soon

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 4:04 PM

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gilded jewel I'm also looking for a full atx

Why?

gilded jewel Sep 23, 2021, 4:04 PM

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because I have a case for a full atx

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sorry

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what does that mean "all the sockets are end of life"

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 4:06 PM

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gilded jewel because I have a case for a full atx

Matx boards fit in atx cases

cursive epoch Sep 23, 2021, 4:06 PM

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am4 is at its end soon

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ddr5 is coming

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am5 will come in place

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but don't sweat too much

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first gen ddr5 is expensive lol

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so probably not worth going to ddr5

gilded jewel Sep 23, 2021, 4:06 PM

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wouldn't matx boards look weird in an atx case?

cursive epoch Sep 23, 2021, 4:06 PM

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not really, no

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 4:07 PM

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And lga1200 is ending soon for intel, 12th gen intel and amd 6000 will require different motherboards and ram, so no point spending extra

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 4:07 PM

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gilded jewel wouldn't matx boards look weird in an atx case?

Nope

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My build

gilded jewel Sep 23, 2021, 4:07 PM

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oh ok

mild jackal Sep 23, 2021, 4:07 PM

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gilded jewel wouldn't matx boards look weird in an atx case?

That's a question to ask yourself

cursive epoch Sep 23, 2021, 4:07 PM

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the fan kinda mismatched

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kek

gilded jewel Sep 23, 2021, 4:08 PM

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so do b550 boards not support any lower than ryzen 3000 series?

cursive epoch Sep 23, 2021, 4:08 PM

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some does

gilded jewel Sep 23, 2021, 4:09 PM

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oh ok

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thank you lots

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 4:13 PM

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cursive epoch the fan kinda mismatched

Sush when i ordered, Arctic only delivered white p12 outside mainland uk and it was cheaper anyway and i was planning on getting the white 4000d air

cursive epoch Sep 23, 2021, 4:13 PM

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lmao fair

gilded jewel Sep 23, 2021, 4:13 PM

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are amd apus any good?

cursive epoch Sep 23, 2021, 4:14 PM

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depends on which ones

gilded jewel Sep 23, 2021, 4:14 PM

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what about the ryzen 5 3400g

cursive epoch Sep 23, 2021, 4:14 PM

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ehhhh

gilded jewel Sep 23, 2021, 4:14 PM

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or are ryzen integrated graphics not on par with intel's

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 4:14 PM

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gilded jewel so do b550 boards not support any lower than ryzen 3000 series?

Only 3000 (non apus) and 5000

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 4:14 PM

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gilded jewel or are ryzen integrated graphics not on par with intel's

Ryzen integrated graphics better, the cpu is worse tho

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@gilded jewel what country you in?

gilded jewel Sep 23, 2021, 4:15 PM

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canada

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I only need to play league of legends

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Then get an i5 11500

gilded jewel Sep 23, 2021, 4:15 PM

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so I don't need a strong cpu or gpu

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 4:16 PM

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vast meadow Then get an i5 11500

Actually ignore that pricing is weird

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@gilded jewel either get an 11400 and b560 or 5600g and b550, either will run league fine tho lol

cursive epoch Sep 23, 2021, 4:16 PM

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5600g is gud

karmic gull Sep 23, 2021, 4:17 PM

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i myself saved money on getting an F version for my cpu

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and bought a used rx 470 4gb

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for very cheap

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which is doing very well for me in most games

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 4:18 PM

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Nice but tbh in most countries getting a non f cpu for 15$ more is optimal as you igpu is handy af

cursive epoch Sep 23, 2021, 4:18 PM

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11400 atm is as expensive as 5600x

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like yikes

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let alone 11400f

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 4:18 PM

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Not in anywhere but us

cursive epoch Sep 23, 2021, 4:18 PM

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ye

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it's the us that suffers

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well canada too

karmic gull Sep 23, 2021, 4:19 PM

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well i saw i7-11700K (NEW) for 300 euros in my country, which is basically the same price as ryzen 5 5600x

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and since i have a intel mobo that supports 10th and 11th gen, id say thats better for me

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 4:20 PM

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cursive epoch it's the us that suffers

Ohh yeah 11400 wack in cad i misread price

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11400f tho 630$ kek

cursive epoch Sep 23, 2021, 4:21 PM

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yikes

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 4:21 PM

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11700k for 300 is fairly nice

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@gilded jewel i misread the price on the 11400 it's being scalped atm, so either get an i5 10400 and b560 or ryzen 5 5600g and b550 with 3600mhz cl16 ram if you can afford

mild jackal Sep 23, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Wonder why they had 12 of these all with bent pins https://www.ebay.com/itm/173974260565

eBay

DELL EMC POWEREDGE R840 SERVER MOTHERBOARD SYSTEM MAIN BOARD 4 CPU ...

COMPATIBILITY: R840 DELL EMC POWEREDGE SERVER. We are not always familiar with the use of each item. There is no exceptions to this policy. We specialize in Dell servers and parts. We tailor our services to fit your needs.

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Also wonder who would buy them and take a chance on $$$ cpus, especially since I don't think you can run ES chips on that

hollow thorn Sep 23, 2021, 6:39 PM

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mild jackal Wonder why they had 12 of these all with bent pins https://www.ebay.com/itm/1739...

2 words
the intern

broken grail Sep 23, 2021, 8:26 PM

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Do I have to do anything to change a CPU? backup or something along those lines

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might upgrade 5600x to 5900x

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:27 PM

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Nope

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As long as you have a good enough board it's just a cpu swap

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And possibly cooler swap

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But why do you need a 5900x?

broken grail Sep 23, 2021, 8:28 PM

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more multitask

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I was going to get one but at the time they were impossible

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Okay, what ram, cooler and motherboard do you have tho?

broken grail Sep 23, 2021, 8:29 PM

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b550 aorus pro v2

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tridentz neo 3600

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32G

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:29 PM

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But i mean you'll need to be doing a LOT of multitasking to actually take advantage of it 02shrug

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 8:29 PM

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broken grail tridentz neo 3600

very nice

broken grail Sep 23, 2021, 8:29 PM

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scyth ninja 5

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but with the 5900x I'll be upgrading

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to the mugen

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:30 PM

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You'll need a better cooler

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:30 PM

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broken grail to the mugen

Nooo

broken grail Sep 23, 2021, 8:30 PM

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with 3 fans

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:30 PM

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Not enough

broken grail Sep 23, 2021, 8:30 PM

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i see builds with that one

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:30 PM

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You'll want an arctic liquid freezer 360/420mm

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Or ek rgb 360

broken grail Sep 23, 2021, 8:30 PM

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I don't do AIO

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:30 PM

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Or lian li Galahad 360

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:30 PM

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broken grail I don't do AIO

Why?

broken grail Sep 23, 2021, 8:30 PM

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could brick everything

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Well only air alternative would be nhd15 or dark rock pro 4

broken grail Sep 23, 2021, 8:31 PM

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dancewhip

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:31 PM

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broken grail could brick everything

No it wont lol

broken grail Sep 23, 2021, 8:31 PM

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I don't trust pipes

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:31 PM

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They have a 6 year warranty

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And provide way better cooling

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They are extremely unlikely to leak

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 8:32 PM

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broken grail I don't trust pipes

same i dont really trust pipes would rather just get a normal air cooler

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:32 PM

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Unless you get some cheapo aio the chances of it leaking are very very small

broken grail Sep 23, 2021, 8:33 PM

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I mean that one with the screen looked cool

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The kraken?

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put a littlegif on it but idk

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 8:33 PM

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NZXT kraken

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Ew please don't get a kraken

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 8:34 PM

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which one u recommend the corsair one?

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:34 PM

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vast meadow You'll want an arctic liquid freezer 360/420mm

Like 300$ for an aio that performs worse than all these 3 at 2x the price

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:34 PM

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lime fern which one u recommend the corsair one?

No

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 8:34 PM

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facts doe

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Arctic liquid freezer ii, lian li Galahad and ek rgb are the only ones worth your money

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If you must have screen ek is about to start selling one with a screen for 220$ for the 360mm

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 8:41 PM

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isnt this the best cpu cooler Corsair H115i RGB Platinum

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:41 PM

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No

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Arctic liquid freezer ii is the best aio

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Especially on ryzen

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 8:41 PM

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ight

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:41 PM

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vast meadow Arctic liquid freezer ii, lian li Galahad and ek rgb are the only ones worth you...

These are the top 3 aios

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Arctic best, Galahad and ek rgb bout same

dim cloak Sep 23, 2021, 8:46 PM

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artic is even better on 11th gen intel cpus under max load for days (dont ask why i had done that)

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 8:49 PM

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how much does the arctic aio cost?

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:50 PM

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lime fern how much does the arctic aio cost?

depending on size but the 280/360/420mm are around 120ish

dim cloak Sep 23, 2021, 8:51 PM

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lime fern how much does the arctic aio cost?

What cpu and case you have? Or you making a list?

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 8:51 PM

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think they jw

dim cloak Sep 23, 2021, 8:54 PM

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Oh

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 8:55 PM

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i have a lian li lancool II

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planning on replacing my noctua nh u12s

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with a good aio

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or just putting a noctua nh d15

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 8:57 PM

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dim cloak What cpu and case you have? Or you making a list?

ryzen 7 3700x

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 9:03 PM

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Tbh 3700x doesn't need it but it's nice to have

dim cloak Sep 23, 2021, 9:11 PM

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Hmm 240 or 360mm probs be best

boreal umbra Sep 23, 2021, 9:11 PM

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lime fern or just putting a noctua nh d15

dont do that

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:11 PM

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why?

boreal umbra Sep 23, 2021, 9:11 PM

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lime fern ryzen 7 3700x

💀

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bro you can use an se224xt

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:11 PM

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is it too much cooling

boreal umbra Sep 23, 2021, 9:11 PM

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and cool this

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i mean its not"too much" but its a waste

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:12 PM

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but i mean if i do wanna upgrade my cpu

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id have the facilities for it

boreal umbra Sep 23, 2021, 9:12 PM

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yes

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but something betyer will probably be out by then

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or the same thing you got before would now be cheaper

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futureproofing usually doesnt make sense

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:13 PM

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true

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im thinking of getting the ryzen 9 5950x

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or better

boreal umbra Sep 23, 2021, 9:14 PM

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lime fern im thinking of getting the ryzen 9 5950x

💀

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are you a gamer

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:14 PM

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yes

boreal umbra Sep 23, 2021, 9:14 PM

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or do you do something else

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:14 PM

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i mean

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i do little blender thats it

boreal umbra Sep 23, 2021, 9:15 PM

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yea 5950x pretty big waste then

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:15 PM

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what do u recommend then

boreal umbra Sep 23, 2021, 9:15 PM

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lime fern what do u recommend then

are you sure its your cpu that you need to upgrade? when you bought that 3700x it should have been good

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i mean for most games its decent

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:16 PM

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i mean its kinda old

boreal umbra Sep 23, 2021, 9:16 PM

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yes... but what games do you actually play

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:16 PM

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warzone far cry

boreal umbra Sep 23, 2021, 9:17 PM

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hmmm if you wanted to upgrade then why wouldnt you wait for 12th gen

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literally within a month

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:17 PM

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sure

boreal umbra Sep 23, 2021, 9:17 PM

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yea i would recommend that

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what gpu do you have?

boreal umbra Sep 23, 2021, 9:18 PM

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lime fern warzone far cry

a better gpu will help with these games too

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:18 PM

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i have a 6600 xt

boreal umbra Sep 23, 2021, 9:19 PM

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alright i wouldnt try to upgrade then

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its hard to get something better right now, at least for a fair price

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:19 PM

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yea ill wait till gpu prices go down and then i might consider a upgrade

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 9:32 PM

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lime fern planning on replacing my noctua nh u12s

tldr;dont bother replacing it, the u12s will do it just fine, its not a very hot chip

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 9:33 PM

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lime fern im thinking of getting the ryzen 9 5950x

no point if you just waste, get a 5800x if you want a premium experience, but tbh not worth upgrade over 3700x, wait for the 5000xt/ryzen 6000/intel 12th gen if you want a cpu upgrade

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 9:34 PM

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lime fern i mean its kinda old

not really, like 1 gen, bout 2 years old lol

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:36 PM

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vast meadow no point if you just waste, get a 5800x if you want a premium experience, but tb...

i think imma stick with ryzen

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 9:38 PM

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lime fern i think imma stick with ryzen

why? no point fanboying for a multi billion dollar company, just buy the better product for your budget, and am4(the socket your using) is end of life basically, if there is 5000xt they will be the last to support it, next gen amd will be switching sockets too and no real word on that, whereas intel 12th gen is looking fantastic, both will require purchasing ddr5 ram as well

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:39 PM

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vast meadow why? no point fanboying for a multi billion dollar company, just buy the better ...

wait they are gonna switch sockets for the new gen ryzen cpus i did not know that

dim cloak Sep 23, 2021, 9:39 PM

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Yeah they finna go LGA 1718

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 9:39 PM

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lime fern wait they are gonna switch sockets for the new gen ryzen cpus i did not know tha...

yeah, they announced this a while ago

dim cloak Sep 23, 2021, 9:39 PM

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I think thats the socket name

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 9:39 PM

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they are moving to LGA like intel

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well it will be called am5

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:40 PM

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ooohh thats good

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does that mean u can put intel amd board

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 9:40 PM

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no

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no

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:40 PM

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or is it just a name

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 9:40 PM

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no

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its the style

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:40 PM

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oh damn

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 9:40 PM

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the pins will now be on the board instead of cpu

lime fern Sep 23, 2021, 9:41 PM

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same as intel

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 9:41 PM

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ye

dim cloak Sep 23, 2021, 9:41 PM

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Wait isnt socket 939 a generation before AM2?

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 9:41 PM

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pretty sure it was just called am1

dim cloak Sep 23, 2021, 9:42 PM

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I thought that was Socket 754

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And iirc am2 based cpus were incompatible with 939

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 9:45 PM

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Am1, am2, am2+?, am3, am3+, am4

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Heck idk hate remember the socket numbers

dim cloak Sep 23, 2021, 9:50 PM

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Yeah i was right Am5 is LGA 1718

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 9:52 PM

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Am5 is just better than lga1718 lol

dim cloak Sep 23, 2021, 9:56 PM

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Yeah

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Isnt the new Alder lake gonna be like LGA1700

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 9:56 PM

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Ye

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That's not as bad but still meh

dim cloak Sep 23, 2021, 10:01 PM

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Well im just ready for the extra cores that the new cpus will have and i might get my first I9 based cpu since its claimed to be cheaper than the 5950X and has been tested to have a 32% better performance than the 5950x

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 10:06 PM

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Yeah the 12600k is gonna be Chef_Kiss tho

hollow thorn Sep 23, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Hopefully*

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 10:12 PM

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Well yes it's looking like that anyway

dim cloak Sep 23, 2021, 10:22 PM

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Supposed to outperform the 5800x barely or be on par iirc and the 12700k is either better or on par with 5900x

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Im just waiting for Asus Tuf gaming Z690 plus wifi mobo

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 10:24 PM

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Yes, but 12600k if it lives up to leaks will be the best for most people cuz 6 big 12th gen cores and 4 small 11th gen perf equivalent cores

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 10:24 PM

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dim cloak Im just waiting for Asus Tuf gaming Z690 plus wifi mobo

Why that specifically lol

dim cloak Sep 23, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Im a Tuf gaming mobo fanboy lol

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I love the build quality

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Fair nough, sometimes there's better options tho

dim cloak Sep 23, 2021, 10:26 PM

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Yeah but im just Asus tuf mobo fan and they sent me a free M3 mouse so im even more fanboyish for them

vast meadow Sep 23, 2021, 10:26 PM

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Okay lol

dim cloak Sep 23, 2021, 10:27 PM

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My first build was a tuf b365m

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But i swapped the mouse im using cause i got the black ice edition (siege related) mouse and deskpad with my keyboard to light up a black ice styled color scheme

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But the M3 weighs like 84grams and feels amazing to me

boreal umbra Sep 24, 2021, 11:31 AM

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dim cloak Im a Tuf gaming mobo fanboy lol

cringe

vast meadow Sep 24, 2021, 11:37 AM

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Nothing wrong with likely a certain brand

boreal umbra Sep 24, 2021, 11:41 AM

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well its just a pretty bad choice of fanboying

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like the tuf brand is nothing special

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they're mobos are ok ig

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but why wait for that one

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it might not even be good lmao

vast meadow Sep 24, 2021, 12:51 PM

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Yeah but just calling them cringe for liking a product line is just rood and kinda cringe lol

boreal umbra Sep 24, 2021, 12:53 PM

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not when it is factual

vast meadow Sep 24, 2021, 12:54 PM

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Let people like things lol

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Not like they even bad mobos

cunning ingot Sep 24, 2021, 1:02 PM

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i mean

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The Ultimate Force

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is pretty cringe

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pepelala

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so is Republic of Gamers

vast meadow Sep 24, 2021, 1:03 PM

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cunning ingot The Ultimate Force

The ultimate force?

cunning ingot Sep 24, 2021, 1:03 PM

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thats what TUF stands for

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The Ultimate Force

vast meadow Sep 24, 2021, 1:03 PM

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Rog make some nice stuff, although when you say it like that the name bad

cunning ingot Sep 24, 2021, 1:03 PM

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kinda cringe innit bruv

vast meadow Sep 24, 2021, 1:03 PM

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Oh god

cunning ingot Sep 24, 2021, 1:04 PM

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you a gamer?

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asusrog

vast meadow Sep 24, 2021, 1:04 PM

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I thought it just was TUF cuz lol

boreal umbra Sep 24, 2021, 1:04 PM

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cringe

cunning ingot Sep 24, 2021, 1:04 PM

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https://www.asus.com/microsite/mb/tuf/

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STAY COOL

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BE TUF

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remember when tuf was actually cool

vast meadow Sep 24, 2021, 1:29 PM

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cunning ingot STAY COOL

https://tenor.com/view/yang-help-pain-heartbreak-somebody-sedate-me-gif-17360288

Tenor

burnt spear Sep 24, 2021, 1:36 PM

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cunning ingot The Ultimate Force

No it means the under frog

fringe crow Sep 24, 2021, 4:14 PM

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opinions on this board

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i’ve always had good experiences with tuf boards and currently have the b550m but looking to move to an atx build

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if it’s of much relevance i have a 3700x and going to go to 5900x in the near future

lime fern Sep 24, 2021, 4:22 PM

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fringe crow

i recommend msi b550 gaming edge

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same price more features

limber dragon Sep 24, 2021, 4:29 PM

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vast meadow Nothing wrong with likely a certain brand

Gigabyte chad

finite elm Sep 24, 2021, 5:34 PM

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limber dragon Gigabyte chad

Who me

cunning ingot Sep 24, 2021, 5:53 PM

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fringe crow

get a b550 atx

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i reccommend gigabyte

devout mothBOT Sep 24, 2021, 7:17 PM

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Reason: Bad word usage

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Yousuf_678#8398 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

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Reason: Bad word usage

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quartz zinc Sep 24, 2021, 7:50 PM

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Is am5 socket still gonna be pga or are they gonna switch to lga?

dim cloak Sep 24, 2021, 8:06 PM

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quartz zinc Is am5 socket still gonna be pga or are they gonna switch to lga?

Lga for AM5 more under the proper term LGA 1718

vast meadow Sep 24, 2021, 8:33 PM

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fringe crow i’ve always had good experiences with tuf boards and currently have the b550m bu...

Then either get the b550 atx tuf or the b550 gaming edge WiFi imho, the x570 is worse than the b550, and the x570 doesn't have flashback either

vast meadow Sep 24, 2021, 8:33 PM

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quartz zinc Is am5 socket still gonna be pga or are they gonna switch to lga?

Lga

vast meadow Sep 24, 2021, 8:34 PM

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limber dragon Gigabyte chad

Gigabyte make some nice stuff tbh just not psus

dim cloak Sep 24, 2021, 8:48 PM

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So i find this funny my previous kit of 16gb 3200mhz cl16 ballistix failed to run XMP but yet i get 128gb of 3600mhz cl16 running XMP with no issues

hollow thorn Sep 24, 2021, 8:52 PM

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Fun

vast meadow Sep 24, 2021, 8:52 PM

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Probs just got real unlucky lol

hollow thorn Sep 24, 2021, 8:55 PM

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Or xmp profile was messed up

dim cloak Sep 24, 2021, 8:57 PM

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Well its working now so next upgrade will be storage and cpu again later on

limber dragon Sep 24, 2021, 10:00 PM

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vast meadow Gigabyte make some nice stuff tbh just not psus

I have a gigabyte monitor, 3 mobos, a gpu and probably other stuff too

limber dragon Sep 24, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Wait, actually 4 giga mobos

finite elm Sep 25, 2021, 12:09 AM

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limber dragon I have a gigabyte monitor, 3 mobos, a gpu and probably other stuff too

I have a lot of gigabyte stuff too

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Monitor, 4 GPU's, 3 Mobos, etc

cyan raft Sep 25, 2021, 12:10 AM

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Only gigabyte in my build is my gpu

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All of my other gigabyte gpus failed ssadge

limpid gulch Sep 25, 2021, 10:03 PM

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im trying to get some new ram for my old laptop, should i get two 4gb sticks or one 8gb stick

vast meadow Sep 25, 2021, 10:10 PM

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2x4gb if you can

limpid gulch Sep 25, 2021, 10:11 PM

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alright thanks

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 5:57 AM

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Hey guys! I just got my ASUS AM4 ROG X570 Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi) motherboard the other day... im in the middle of doing an upgrade from an X370 1st gen Ryzen 7 1700X... so like i stated i got my mother board but now I am trying to decide on what CPU to get... I was thinking a Ryzen 7 5800X but im trying to be some what modest with my costs... while getting the best bang for my buck if you will any thoughts?

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I am running an ASUS strix 2080 GPU and want to utilize the PCI-E 4.0 for my PCI-E to M.2 card also form ASUS to expand storage... i had minor issues with lags and frame rate issues in AAA games as my setup stands now... i was more concerned with expanding M.2 storage and maybe frame boost... i was thinking Ryzen 7 or Ryzen 5... feel like Ryzen 9 is way overkill for me

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 5:59 AM

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If you're not getting a 5800X minimum and overclocking a lot with the crosshair then it's wasted potential

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:00 AM

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grizzled bloom If you're not getting a 5800X minimum and overclocking a lot with the crosshair ...

so your saying with the motherboard i decided on a Ryzen 7 5800X is minimum of what i should be looking at

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:00 AM

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Yeah, no point spending more on the motherboard than you do the CPU

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:02 AM

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okay so is there any added benefit from going R7 to R9?

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i know the added cores

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i dont live stream much... maybe in the future? who knows...

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:02 AM

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Not anything you'll notice if you're just gaming and/or streaming

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Single core speeds matter most for gaming and most of the Ryzen 5000 series is about the same there

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It's a hot chip though, you'll need a good cooler like the liquid freezer II

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:04 AM

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so let me ask this... if i went with a ryzen 5 5600X what am i leaving on the table as far as performance?

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:05 AM

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You won't be coming anywhere near the potential power delivery for that board, which is fine but at that point a cheaper board performs just as well.

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:06 AM

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i have a custom liquid cooled system already with the AM4 bracket ... feeds to a 240 rad and a (cant remember the size)but big rez from EK

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:06 AM

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Should be fine there then, but if that's a full loop with the GPU you'll want more radiators

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:07 AM

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and its all in a custom home built case thats almost 3ft long and a foot and a half deep... with 8 fans... i dont think... well hope... i dont need to worry about cooling

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no the GPU is still air cooled

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:08 AM

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That's good then

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:08 AM

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lmao

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last night i was like i will be modest and save $100-ish and get a ryzen 5... but now im more leaning to the ryzen 7

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5800X

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purchased... thanks for your help @grizzled bloom

vernal cosmos Sep 26, 2021, 6:19 AM

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Falcie nice and helpful

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and hot

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:19 AM

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Nah just my 5800X, that thing gets HAWT

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:21 AM

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haha!

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so the setup i have like i said is a 1700X its OLD... but works great! just wanted the additional PCIE lanes...
but it runs cool... i have plenty of cooling... but @grizzled bloom you can send me funds for more rads right! lmao

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:22 AM

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Suuure! You take Dogecoin right?

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:23 AM

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but i have plans so like i said i have a custom build case out of pine board i can literally add 2 more 120mm rads if needed lol

vernal cosmos Sep 26, 2021, 6:23 AM

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grizzled bloom Suuure! You take Dogecoin right?

Only ur unconditional love 😳

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:23 AM

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I sure do! sitting on a ton of doge as we speak and pissed off about the drop in price a few months ago lol

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:24 AM

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Custom loop with a 240 should be ok until you get to more extreme overclocks

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:24 AM

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wifey was mad enough about the mobo... she doesnt know about the just now placed CPU order lmao... pray for me... lol

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yea no ill just do a typical AI overclock MAYBE if i need it otherwise itll be close to stock...

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:25 AM

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I wish you luck

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:25 AM

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ill await your dogecoin transfer lmao

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:25 AM

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AI overclock is bad, just turn on PBO for gaming

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:26 AM

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PBO?

vernal cosmos Sep 26, 2021, 6:26 AM

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void cypress yea no ill just do a typical AI overclock MAYBE if i need it otherwise itll be c...

Yeah pbo on zen 3 is far better than you can get from manually OCing

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:26 AM

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Precision Boost Overdrive

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:26 AM

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something new?

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:26 AM

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It lets the CPU boost higher, longer

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:26 AM

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ohhh

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wait

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:26 AM

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Not new, just more usable in newer Zen versions

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:26 AM

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i read this somewhere... where you set the boost clock higher? kinda?

vernal cosmos Sep 26, 2021, 6:27 AM

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Not really

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:27 AM

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Yeah you can give it a higher boost max, and it'll hit that as long as there's power and heat headroom

vernal cosmos Sep 26, 2021, 6:27 AM

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it basically just pushes the chip to its max safe limits that fall under the limits you define

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:27 AM

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oh so if temps and voltage is good boosted higher....

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that sounds like a safe play in OC a

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i mean AI OC is safe most of the time

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:28 AM

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Yeah it's got all the protections still enabled that way so it's safe, and usually boosts higher than AI overclock

vernal cosmos Sep 26, 2021, 6:28 AM

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ai oc doesnt perform NEARLY as well as pbo

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:29 AM

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is PBO an option is BIOS?

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:29 AM

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Yes that's the best way

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:29 AM

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what? PBO in BIOS?

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:29 AM

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You can do it in Ryzen Master but that's a little less stable

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:29 AM

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see ... i didnt like ryzen master

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granted im on first gen...

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:30 AM

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Yeah there's been a few innovations since then

vernal cosmos Sep 26, 2021, 6:30 AM

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itll be under the overclocking options for cpu in the bios

vernal cosmos Sep 26, 2021, 6:30 AM

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void cypress see ... i didnt like ryzen master

ryzen master sucks for sure

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:30 AM

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huh... i do appreciate the tips and advice guys!

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:31 AM

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As an example, the auto overclock for my board sets the CPU to 4.6GHz all core, but PBO lets it boost to over 5GHz

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:32 AM

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water cooled?

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:32 AM

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Yeah just a cheapo 240, I plan to custom cool soon

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Watch the language btw, usually the bot blocks it but seems to be not working?

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:33 AM

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that is great to know!
the wife wants an AIO for her BDAY next month... shes not huge into custom water cooling but wants a good machine

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oh my apologies.... im sorry

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:34 AM

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It's only repeat offenses that matter, no worries

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:34 AM

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so can i ask ya something

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what kinda performance hit can i expect if i fill my ASUS Hyper M.2 X16 expansion card with M.2 drives

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:36 AM

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You'll run into a memory bottleneck if you put 4 M.2 drives into raid 0

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:36 AM

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because my game library is growing quickly and i play random games off and on and i hate to uninstall and reinstall and trash my SSD lifespan

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no raid

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just independent drives

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 6:37 AM

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Then each drive will perform how it's supposed to based on the model

void cypress Sep 26, 2021, 6:41 AM

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yea i purchased that expansion card for just mass storage for games... not looking to store critical storage

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thats why i have acronis backing my important stuff to my NAS

finite prawn Sep 26, 2021, 4:13 PM

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so is there a way to get around the limits for orders? Like through support or something? I have 5 kids to upgrade, and no way to order enough CPUs unless I go elsewhere

grizzled bloom Sep 26, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Limits where?

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If you're asking about newegg it's probably not a good idea discussing bypass methods on the official discord, and I'm not aware of any personally. You could ask @glad socket if they can place the order for you or something.

cyan raft Sep 26, 2021, 4:20 PM

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Ryzen master is just plain bad, only let me go up to 4.6-7 gHz on my 5900x. PBO consistently boosts it to 5.15gHz

vast meadow Sep 26, 2021, 4:23 PM

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I'm surprised they're limiting num of cpus as cpu stock is fine

burnt spear Sep 26, 2021, 6:58 PM

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lmao

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i saw two leaks of 12900k

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one says it barely beats 11900k

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another says its better than 5950x

vast meadow Sep 26, 2021, 7:00 PM

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burnt spear one says it barely beats 11900k

This one doesn't seem possible unless you mean single core

burnt spear Sep 26, 2021, 7:00 PM

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idk i didnt read it that much

vast meadow Sep 26, 2021, 7:00 PM

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burnt spear another says its better than 5950x

This is what all the leaks I've seen are saying

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Well it's gotta be single cus it has 8 12th gen cores and 8 basically 11th gen cores but more power efficient and without ht

digital kernel Sep 26, 2021, 7:38 PM

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Benchmarks of 12th gen is going to be very interesting

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pale fox Sep 26, 2021, 10:03 PM

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Anyone can recommend me a cheap overclockable mother board (60$)

vast meadow Sep 26, 2021, 10:04 PM

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pale fox Anyone can recommend me a cheap overclockable mother board (60$)

For what cpu and overclocking CPU doesn't really give you much extra perf anyway

pale fox Sep 26, 2021, 10:05 PM

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Ryzen 5 3600, I've got a 320-mk motherboard and I was wondering if I do need to change my board

vast meadow Sep 26, 2021, 10:07 PM

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pale fox Ryzen 5 3600, I've got a 320-mk motherboard and I was wondering if I do need to ...

I mean if it's working keep it 60$ isn't enough for a b450 even soo

pale fox Sep 26, 2021, 10:20 PM

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vast meadow I mean if it's working keep it 60$ isn't enough for a b450 even soo

Alright

cyan raft Sep 27, 2021, 12:53 AM

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Dont bother OCing 3000 and 5000 series ryzen

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PBO is all you really need

limber dragon Sep 27, 2021, 2:30 AM

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or ya know, if you have a single ccd 3000 series, or need more multicore performance on dual ccd

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pbo2 is great, and you dont manually oc on 5000 series

naive pendant Sep 27, 2021, 11:31 AM

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Turn on xmp tho?

vast meadow Sep 27, 2021, 11:35 AM

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Ofc

cursive epoch Sep 27, 2021, 1:22 PM

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XMP is the very basic thing

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PBO is cpu side of things

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stoic crest Sep 28, 2021, 12:43 AM

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Am I basically pooched in the world of overclocking if I have an A520M board

rocky beacon Sep 28, 2021, 1:21 AM

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You can't OC on A520 boards normally

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I think there was a board that allowed it using BCLK but obviously don't because the VRMs are not going to be great

cyan raft Sep 28, 2021, 1:30 AM

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stoic crest Am I basically pooched in the world of overclocking if I have an A520M board

Pretty much

cursive epoch Sep 28, 2021, 2:12 AM

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yep

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Only ram oc

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No cpu

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But according to bob, it's possible on some A520

limber dragon Sep 28, 2021, 2:14 AM

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A520 should be able to do ram and pbo

cursive epoch Sep 28, 2021, 2:33 AM

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But ye, pbo is possible

upper rose Sep 28, 2021, 3:29 AM

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Hey, after I sent my B450 out to MSI for repair, I ultimately lacked patience, so I bought a B550 Gaming Plus.

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It has the full ATX form factor, which helps me expand it with a video card I might want later.

cursive epoch Sep 28, 2021, 3:30 AM

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It wouldn't matter unless you plan to use multi gpu

burnt spear Sep 28, 2021, 3:30 AM

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Is there any difference between the two pcie slots?

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Doesn't one have more lanes or smthn?

cursive epoch Sep 28, 2021, 3:31 AM

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Nope

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Just closer to cpu

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But it depends on how the mobo's pcie slots are configurated by the brand and model

burnt spear Sep 28, 2021, 3:31 AM

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Ah

cursive epoch Sep 28, 2021, 3:31 AM

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But most atx mobos has two x16 pcie slots

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With the closest one to the cpu having metal plating to reinforce it

burnt spear Sep 28, 2021, 3:32 AM

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I have asrock b550m/ac atx

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2 pcie slots, when I got it my friend said the bottom was better, I forget why

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I didnt know much then

cursive epoch Sep 28, 2021, 3:33 AM

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The bottom isn't better tbh

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The closer it is to the cpu, the better

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Not much difference but it's best to just put it there

burnt spear Sep 28, 2021, 3:33 AM

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I'd have to check which one it's in

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I dont feel like opening the pc

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I'm debating having coffee

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Im not going to be able to sleep

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Insomnia pog

limber dragon Sep 28, 2021, 3:48 AM

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burnt spear Doesn't one have more lanes or smthn?

upper slot has all 16 lanes, lower slots are 8 or less

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so in your case, all lanes on top slot, other full slot has only 4 lanes

burnt spear Sep 28, 2021, 3:50 AM

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interesting

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ty

dense frost Sep 28, 2021, 7:50 AM

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burnt spear Is there any difference between the two pcie slots?

yes, there is. on B550 the bottom one is PCIe GEN 3, top one is Gen 4. Also, bottom one is usually not full 16x

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burnt spear Sep 28, 2021, 12:24 PM

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dense frost yes, there is. on B550 the bottom one is PCIe GEN 3, top one is Gen 4. Also, bot...

Thought so, thanks

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steady wigeon Sep 28, 2021, 2:45 PM

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I'm not sure if some Intel CPUs will work with my motherboard because the company that made my prebuilt PC didn't release a bios update to support 9th gen Intel CPUs and later

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So could I still potentially use more recent Intel CPUs?

vast meadow Sep 28, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Well what cpu do you have now?

steady wigeon Sep 28, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Intel i5-8400 @ 2.80 Ghz

vast meadow Sep 28, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Also prebuilt boards are usually the bare minimum for your cpu soo

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Nothing worth upgrading too assuming the prebuilt is like hp dell etc?

steady wigeon Sep 28, 2021, 2:47 PM

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It's a Dell PC.

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I made a huge mistake by buying it

vast meadow Sep 28, 2021, 2:47 PM

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Yeah just build/buy a new pc and keep the gpu if you want or something

steady wigeon Sep 28, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Probably won't keep the GPU.

vast meadow Sep 28, 2021, 2:48 PM

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What gpu?

steady wigeon Sep 28, 2021, 2:48 PM

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It's a 1060 6GB Blower.

vast meadow Sep 28, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Unless you wanna buy a new (good, not oem) prebuilt then you'd wanna keep that card

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Fairly decent for this market

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You got a budget for upgrading?

steady wigeon Sep 28, 2021, 2:49 PM

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I'm not actually sure what I want to upgrade to.

vast meadow Sep 28, 2021, 2:50 PM

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Well that will depend on how much you can afford tbh

steady wigeon Sep 28, 2021, 2:51 PM

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Probably around $1,200. But because the market is so bad I probably should wait

vast meadow Sep 28, 2021, 2:51 PM

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steady wigeon Probably around $1,200. But because the market is so bad I probably should wait

If you mean usd, you can get a 3060 prebuilt for that so ntb

steady wigeon Sep 28, 2021, 2:52 PM

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Really? That's quite surprising, didn't know they were that cheap

vast meadow Sep 28, 2021, 2:52 PM

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Yeah 1 sec

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https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali564/p/N82E16883360194?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=4

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Or if you don't mind open box https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali489-master/p/N82E16883360084R?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=1

steady wigeon Sep 28, 2021, 2:53 PM

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So if the computers don't work when they arrive I can get a refund?

vast meadow Sep 28, 2021, 3:03 PM

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steady wigeon So if the computers don't work when they arrive I can get a refund?

Basically

steady wigeon Sep 28, 2021, 3:04 PM

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Nice. I'll buy it and maybe replace the graphics card later on

vast meadow Sep 28, 2021, 3:06 PM

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I mean if you can spare a bit more you can just get a 3060 ti straight up and not need to upgrade https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali568/p/N82E16883360198?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=0

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https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali559/p/N82E16883360189?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=1

cursive marlin Sep 29, 2021, 1:11 AM

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https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-Z490-P/

ASUS Global

ASUS Prime series is expertly engineered to unleash the full potential of AMD and Intel processors. Boasting a robust power design, comprehensive cooling solutions and intelligent tuning options, Prime series motherboards provide daily users and DIY PC builders a range of performance tuning options via intuitive software and firmware features.

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currently I have this mobo, I was going to upgrade to an aio as well as buying 2 strimmers, will I have a problem with rgb headers?

grizzled bloom Sep 29, 2021, 1:17 AM

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That mobo has two 4 pin headers and one 3 pin header. You can get splitters if needed.

cursive epoch Sep 29, 2021, 1:57 AM

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or hub

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:05 PM

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Hey, quick question, I have a SATA SSD, but my pc doesnt feel signifcantly faster, must it be M.2?

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:07 PM

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ivory sedge Hey, quick question, I have a SATA SSD, but my pc doesnt feel signifcantly faste...

What do you mean "feel"

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And it should be your boot drive

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Meaning windows is on it and you boot from it

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And games that you download on it will download, update, and launch faster

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I have a sata ssd, it is miles better than my old hdd

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Type of ssd doesn't matter that much for most people

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:09 PM

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burnt spear What do you mean "feel"

I am using windows 10, yet my laptop uses the same OS and boots up in 10 seconds while my PC takes about a minute

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2021, 12:11 PM

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Check that windows is actually installed on the SSD

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And check startup applications

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:15 PM

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ivory sedge I am using windows 10, yet my laptop uses the same OS and boots up in 10 seconds...

Does your pc have an hdd in it?

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:15 PM

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HDD?

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:16 PM

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And my 8 year old laptop boots the same speed as my pc, and it has an 8 yo hdd. Better to compare it to another pc than a laptop

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Hard drive

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:16 PM

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and no, windows isnt installed oin the SSD, since i got it after installing windows, how do I do that?

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yes it does

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:16 PM

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Yeah thats why lol

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Google windows creation media tool

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I think that's the name

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Media creation*

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I'm on my phone so ima send a picture of the link I went to

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:17 PM

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okay

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:18 PM

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Yes I am in school

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:18 PM

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I googled but it shows the Win10 download page

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:18 PM

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It was the second link for me

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@hollow thorn if you're at your pc do you think you could guide Jos through it? It's probably easier with your pc on hand

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All I have is this stupid dell latitude without admin perms

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:20 PM

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it does not help i am in spain and it shows me spanish answers, dang, Lemme try to dig through this a bit

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:20 PM

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Sorry

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If I was at my pc I could help more

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:20 PM

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is okay, you helped me realize what y problem was

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thats already a lot

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:20 PM

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Basically, once you get to the right page, you install it and use the software to download windows on your ssd

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Then you turn the pc off and back on, while it's turning on go into bios

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Then go to boot device and select ssd there

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Well

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The name of the ssd anyways

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:21 PM

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got iy

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:21 PM

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And then it should boot and fully install windows iirc

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I've never installed it on another drive in the same pc, so im not sure if it fully installs it from the media creation tool

vast meadow Sep 29, 2021, 12:25 PM

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ivory sedge Hey, quick question, I have a SATA SSD, but my pc doesnt feel signifcantly faste...

No real life between 2.5 and nvme is hardly noticeable

vast meadow Sep 29, 2021, 12:25 PM

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ivory sedge HDD?

Hard drive

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:25 PM

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burnt spear I've never installed it on another drive in the same pc, so im not sure if it fu...

okay, so i am putting windows then on a USB, then I am installing it through the SSD by removing my HDD temporarily, but once i finish, I can still use my HDD normally right? What about the windows files in there? how would I delete it?

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:25 PM

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vast meadow Hard drive

Can you make sure my description of how to download it and everything is right?

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:25 PM

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ivory sedge okay, so i am putting windows then on a USB, then I am installing it through the...

You don't have to

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You can download it right to the ssd from the media creation tool

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:26 PM

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its still a lot of space i wanna keep

vast meadow Sep 29, 2021, 12:26 PM

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@ivory sedge you can just use macrium reflect to move the exact windows install over to the ssd

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:26 PM

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macrium reflect?

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:26 PM

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ivory sedge its still a lot of space i wanna keep

What?

vast meadow Sep 29, 2021, 12:26 PM

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ivory sedge macrium reflect?

Yep

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:26 PM

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Didn't know that existed

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Listen to pato he smurt

vast meadow Sep 29, 2021, 12:26 PM

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Lol thanks

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:26 PM

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is that an application?

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lemme google it\

vast meadow Sep 29, 2021, 12:26 PM

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Yep

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:27 PM

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do I have to pay for it?

vast meadow Sep 29, 2021, 12:27 PM

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Nope

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It's free

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:30 PM

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okay, I am installing it

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is it straightforward or do i need a tutorial to do this

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:44 PM

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vast meadow It's free

im looking a video online, this will still allow me to use my HDD right?

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:44 PM

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Yes

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It just moves windows from your hdd to your ssd

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From what I understand

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:45 PM

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it just seems like it copies everything from my HDD to my SSD

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:45 PM

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After that you'll have to select the ssd as your boot drive in bios I believe

vernal cosmos Sep 29, 2021, 12:45 PM

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ivory sedge it just seems like it copies everything from my HDD to my SSD

YEah

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:45 PM

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Oh

vast meadow Sep 29, 2021, 12:45 PM

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ivory sedge im looking a video online, this will still allow me to use my HDD right?

Yes, once windows is installed on the ssd you can wipe the hdd

vernal cosmos Sep 29, 2021, 12:45 PM

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but its copying every little bit

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:45 PM

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Ohh I get it

vernal cosmos Sep 29, 2021, 12:45 PM

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even the stuff that you cant access

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:45 PM

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Interesting

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:46 PM

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okay

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ill copy everything then wipe my HDD, but I still want my personal files on my HDD

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:46 PM

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Bruh

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Wiping hdd means erasing everything on it

vast meadow Sep 29, 2021, 12:46 PM

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Everything you have on your hdd will be on your ssd

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:46 PM

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You can still use it

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But it will be a clean drive

vast meadow Sep 29, 2021, 12:47 PM

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So you can move files back to the hdd if you want from your ssd

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:47 PM

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Your ssd will have everything you currently have

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:47 PM

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vast meadow So you can move files back to the hdd if you want from your ssd

this was my question

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I just ask because

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when looking at "This PC", it does not show the SSD at all, like it is there, installed, but it is not visible through any file explorer that I can see

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Then it isn't in properly

ivory sedge Sep 29, 2021, 12:48 PM

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I know its kind of a newbie question, but it just confuses me

vernal cosmos Sep 29, 2021, 12:48 PM

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ivory sedge when looking at "This PC", it does not show the SSD at all, like it is there, in...

Needs to be formatted

vast meadow Sep 29, 2021, 12:48 PM

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That's cuz it's not initialised

burnt spear Sep 29, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Do you have the power cord plugged in from your psu?

vernal cosmos Sep 29, 2021, 12:48 PM

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burnt spear Then it isn't in properly

nah it is

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just needs to be formatted