cpus-mobo-and-memory

[naive pendant]

of course

[rocky beacon]

1155 motherboards can be bought for $40 from china

[vast meadow]

Yeah use the g260 as file server

[naive pendant]

alr

[rocky beacon]

Even used from the US on ebay for $40

[naive pendant]

hope they arent to big for this box

it appears as if it would be big enough for a couple of drives the psu and the mobo

but things would be mega tight

[rocky beacon]

matx board with 2 ram slots

[naive pendant]

but now that i think about it

for 40$...

i could just

get a cheap sff hp

computer manufacturer sff mobos can be had for like 15$

[naive pendant]

am i gonna need a ton of ram

[vast meadow]

4gb

[naive pendant]

ive got a 1gb stick for the g620 lined up

[naive pendant]

oh 🙃

[vast meadow]

There's no 1gb ddr4

You gonna need ddr4

Lol

[naive pendant]

g620 is ddr3.

[vast meadow]

Ohh then 1gb probs will do

[naive pendant]

would it be fine to grab one of these literal 12$ manufacturer motherboards?

[rocky beacon]

baller ram

[naive pendant]

gamin

[rocky beacon]

I miss my OCZ gold ram

[naive pendant]

?, like ones pulled from sff pcs

or just get a normal like asus/asrock/ w/e board

[rocky beacon]

As long as they are normal ATX

and have normal front panel connectors

[naive pendant]

they arent gonna be :V

[rocky beacon]

Many Dell ones are

[naive pendant]

but if they are going in a box it shouldnt matter right?

[vast meadow]

Yup

[naive pendant]

poggers

[vast meadow]

Doesn't have to be atx size just make sure same power connectors

[naive pendant]

becom yutub "12$ gamr pc build"

[naive pendant]

alr

thanks

[vast meadow]

Np

[devout moth]

Luffy at 100%#4366 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

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[naive pendant]

one cpu is ok

but it has the have the normal 12 pin motherboard right

like some of them only have one cpu port things instead of 2

[rocky beacon]

12pin motherboard?

That's dell proprietary

You want a board with a 24pin

4 pin for CPU is normal

[naive pendant]

i mean 24 pin

[rocky beacon]

Ah okay

[naive pendant]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254880287967?epid=1041813341&hash=item3b580c8cdf%3Ag%3A05gAAOSwWulgulBY&LH_BIN=1 like this would be compatible right

[rocky beacon]

Yeah

[naive pendant]

alr thankies

[rocky beacon]

Fans require an adapter though

Dell 5pin to 4pin fan

[naive pendant]

oh yeah my other question

how should i cool it

in the box especially

[naive pendant]

like i know i have to cut fan holes but how should i cool it

[vast meadow]

Yes ik? Make sure it has 24 pin atx power and standard cpu 4+4 pin etc

[naive pendant]

would a whole at the top count as intake?

i meant to make it a question

[naive pendant]

it has to be 4+4?

[vast meadow]

Stock cooler

[naive pendant]

the stock cooler isnt a cooler

its a heatsink.

[rocky beacon]

What?

[vast meadow]

Well 4 pin whatever usually just 4+4

[naive pendant]

its pulled from a sff hp

the g620

[rocky beacon]

Just buy any compatible intel cooler

[naive pendant]

i dont have the hp anymore

so just cpu cooler and thats it?

and cut out for psu

[vast meadow]

What socket does it need to support btw?

[naive pendant]

1155

"FCLGA1155"

[halcyon wagon]

just got a prebuilt

the graphics ports on the motherboard don't work, only on the graphics card

assuming i have to update something

[rocky beacon]

No

[vast meadow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PNm323/arctic-alpine-12-cpu-cooler-acalp00027a imo just ver fhat

[naive pendant]

what prebuilt is it

[rocky beacon]

That is how GPUs and computers work

[naive pendant]

amd cpus do not have integrated graphics

[halcyon wagon]

uh abs gladiator

the one with an i5 and 3070

[vast meadow]

Usually prebuilts wont have integrated gpus if they have a graphics card, so the motherboard display outs are for CPU integrated graphics only

[halcyon wagon]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali484/p/N82E16883360079

[halcyon wagon]

ah

[vast meadow]

Yep that cpu has no integrated gpu

[halcyon wagon]

so motherboard outputs come from the integrated graphics

[naive pendant]

so get this and have no other fans? i have a 92mm fan i could also put somewhere

[vast meadow]

Yep

[halcyon wagon]

no way to change that i'm assuming

ok

[vast meadow]

You can see if you can get an intel cooler for cheaper on ebay but shipping so i doubt it, sure wack a fan in there but it should be fine with that

[vast meadow]

Swapping out the cpu to a non f cpu but no basically, but then there would be no point in your 3070 lol as you wouldn't be using it

[naive pendant]

i think they want to have a display on integrated and a display on the 3070

using the integrated to power multiple displays

right @halcyon wagon

?

[vast meadow]

Their 3070 will have 3 or 4 ports so

[naive pendant]

maybe they have 6 displays

[halcyon wagon]

no

it's fine

my pc has no integrated graphics

i thought the dvi port on the motherboard somehow attached to the gpu

it's an inconvenience for me to use an hdmi cable

because i have to take it out and give it to my dad every day

[halcyon wagon]

but i couldn't figure out how to use a dvi cable because ^

it's fine my good monitor is arriving on thursday

and it has hdmi on it so i won't have to borrow my dads cable

doesn't make sense to buy another cable considering it's arriving in 3 days

[vast meadow]

You can get them on Amazon for like 6$ i would just invest in one of those

Nvm then

[halcyon wagon]

.

[humble glade]

Tell your dad to buy his own damn graphics card!

[halcyon wagon]

the cable

not the graphics card lol

i'm not letting my dad touch my 3070

he's perfectly content with his two gt 160s

[naive pendant]

gt what?

you mean, gt 610s?

[cyan raft]

How are the Asus Gundam mobos?

I’m really tempted to buy one with me being a huge gundam fan and wanting to do a build with it

[naive pendant]

What's up!!!

Oh sorry i have no clue

[vernal cosmos]

Not bad

[cyan raft]

So like the Z590 is a solid buy?

What normal Asus board would it be the equivalent to?

[proud badger]

Is Asus ROG Maximus XII Formula a good mobo?

[vast meadow]

I mean yes but don't buy it it's for extreme overclocking, what cpu where you looking to use?

[devout moth]

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[devout moth]

UndyingOne#5032 has been warned

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[cursive epoch]

every darn day

[naive pendant]

😔

[dim cloak]

Another few munch on the dust of weggbot

[proud badger]

i9-10700k

I just look at the best builds 2021 and see that in there but I didn’t know if there is more affordable options

[burnt spear]

that cpu doesnt exist lol

its i7-10700k

[proud badger]

I’m sorry I meant i9-10900k

[burnt spear]

ah

[proud badger]

All new to this building world

Was a pro League of legends player back in the day using i5 laptop and wanted to build a pc

[burnt spear]

whats your budget?\

[proud badger]

Wanted to do streaming and play Call of Duty and race games finally without freezing and low quality

Budget for the whole build?

[burnt spear]

yeah

[proud badger]

1500-2000$

[burnt spear]

in an ideal world youd get a 3080 and 5800x

but with the market itd be a little hard

[proud badger]

3080 5800x what?

[burnt spear]

my friend built his 3080 5800x pc for 1600$ but he got stuff at or below msrp

[proud badger]

Well I’m probably going to wait till cyber Monday or Black Friday or just later on

When stuff might restock

[burnt spear]

yeah honestly at the current rate cant hurt

[proud badger]

What motherboard would you recommend if the Asus formula is too much

[burnt spear]

id say wait till you buy your gpu and build the rest of your build around it

im not too sure on mobos

[proud badger]

Oh alright. So what is the full name of the 3800 thing

😂 I know I sound stupid

[burnt spear]

geforce rtx 3080

theres different models

AIBs theyre called, thats when another company modifies the original gpu to put it simply

[proud badger]

The 3080 is able to run high quality games?

[burnt spear]

the cheapest is the founders edition, but it also has meh cooling

oh 100%

its one of the best gaming gpus

[proud badger]

Serious?

[burnt spear]

outta curiosity, do you already have a monitor?

[proud badger]

No I had no idea

Where to start

I have a laptop still haha

[burnt spear]

is 2k budget including monitor?

[proud badger]

I mean no

Spread your knowledge to me friend haha

[burnt spear]

so 3080 is overkill for 1080p gaming, the "lowest" resolution (theres lower but never used anymore)\

id reccomend atleast a 1440p monitor, that or a 4k monitor

the resolution is pixel density

meaning the gpu is rendering more pixels on the screen, which means it takes more of the gpu to do it

refresh rate is how often the monitor refreshes, id reccomend a 1440p 144hz monitor probably, since 4k is expensive asf

on specific model im unsure

[proud badger]

What shouldaverage price of this be? What might you guess @burnt spear

Is this a good monitor

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pGqBD3/asus-tuf-gaming-vg27aq-270-2560x1440-165-hz-monitor-vg27aq

[burnt spear]

I'm nkt too sure on good monitors, I've heard good things about the m27q

[proud badger]

Alright thanks man 🙂

[devout moth]

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[old hazel]

which processor is the best

i am confused with intel or amd

[dense frost]

depends on your need and budget

[vernal cosmos]

11400 for budget 5000 series amd for everything else

3000 series ryzen not werf it tbh

[celest anchor]

10400 though

And intel still puts up a hell of a fight

[vernal cosmos]

last gen intel is very nais for 10th gen for sure

10700 very nice if you need more cores

10850 is amazing too

[celest anchor]

10700 is awesome

10700f is usually like 270 or 260 usd

i'd take it over a 5600x for 290 or 300

oh damn it's 250 rn

whew

[vernal cosmos]

personally id take the 5600x any day of the week but thats just because I have an x570 aorus elite

[celest anchor]

crazy

most people don't have boards

5600x is a hard sell being $30 more

[vernal cosmos]

Yep exactly why I added the personally

[celest anchor]

I don't really see the value in the 11400/f

[dim cloak]

So i have the Asus Tuf gaming Z590 plus gaming wifi mobo and an Intel Core I5-11600K would a 16gb (2×8gb) 3200mhz cl16 ram do fine in do channel mode

[celest anchor]

yeah

[vernal cosmos]

f isnt great but the better igpu on 11th gen can make a difference in the current market

[celest anchor]

11500 then

igpu is 30% better

[vernal cosmos]

yes but id recommend a 5600x+b550 board tbh

[vernal cosmos]

fair

[celest anchor]

why though

10700f is so good at the price point

[vernal cosmos]

turns out to be cheaper

[dim cloak]

I already have them in possesion

[celest anchor]

how

[vernal cosmos]

ah nvm then

[vernal cosmos]

the mobo

[celest anchor]

$30 cheaper?

[vernal cosmos]

z490 and 590 mobos are a lot more expensive than b550

[celest anchor]

b560

[dense frost]

5600x also comes with a cooler

[celest anchor]

not z series

10700f comes with a cooler

[dim cloak]

I stuck with asus tuf board cause it was an open box deal with a missing manual so i got it for $150

[vernal cosmos]

then get rid of the k skew cpu

[dense frost]

roger that

[celest anchor]

I never said the k

[dense frost]

my bad

[vernal cosmos]

the guy did

5600x + b550 > 11600k + z590

[celest anchor]

10600K + z590 > 11600K + z590

too

[vernal cosmos]

z490 better for 10600k

[celest anchor]

nope

[vernal cosmos]

no disabled m.2 slots

[celest anchor]

z590 boards are much better

[celest anchor]

2 is enough for almost everyone

I'm getting a 10850K + z590 because z590 boards are better

[vernal cosmos]

some boards have only 1 non disabled on z590

[celest anchor]

don't get one of those then

[vernal cosmos]

VRMs and everything on z590 smashes z490 for sure

[vernal cosmos]

others are much more money

[celest anchor]

z590 ud

that has 3

[vernal cosmos]

hmm fair

[dim cloak]

I also did z590 so i didnt have to bios flash a z490 cause i dont got no 10th gen to do that with

[celest anchor]

if you need 3 m.2's yeah sure

[celest anchor]

yeah that's another benefit to z590

But that benefit doesn't matter to most people

[vernal cosmos]

You make good points alatron

thanks for changing my mind about some things

[celest anchor]

np

I just like seeing value

[dim cloak]

Also i can if i ever need to unlock the cpu with more potential iirc

[celest anchor]

Main benefit about going zen 3 over intel is honestly the upgradeability. Can get a 5950x later on 👀

[celest anchor]

You mean overclock?

[dim cloak]

Yeah

[celest anchor]

yeah you can squeeze a little out of them

[dim cloak]

But i doubt id ever need to but just in case

[celest anchor]

sadly rocketlake overclocks really poorly

the 11600K is 4.6 all core stock and 4.8 is a reasonable oc

only 4.3% :\

[dim cloak]

Eh ill just be happy i was able to also build the whole pc for just under 3k

[celest anchor]

If you ever need more performance in games memory overclocking is the way to go

[dim cloak]

Memory oc? Alright ill keep that in mind

[celest anchor]

That's only if your cpu is bottlenecking though, if your gpu is it doesn't really help

[dim cloak]

I usually resort to just buy more ram but if i do ill usually max it out

[celest anchor]

More ram doesn't have the same affects as memory overclocking

[dim cloak]

Oh

[celest anchor]

You can compare ram to storage. Having more storage allows you to store more stuff. But faster storage like a HDD to an SSD is like getting faster memory. It can get the stored data faster

Having lots of slow storage isn't great and neither is having a little bit of fast stuff. But having lots of fast storage is awesome

[dim cloak]

Agreed

So mem oc is better.. noted

[vernal cosmos]

3200cl16 should do 3600cl18 comfortably

Alatron is much better at this than i am tho

[vast meadow]

Still not worth it even if you are going to do some overclocking

[devout moth]

тoмσ#7777 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

тoмσ#7777 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[cyan raft]

It probably could do 3600cl16 depending on the ram

[vernal cosmos]

hence the comfortably

[cyan raft]

True true

[finite elm]

Why do your specs change so often @cyan raft didn't you have a 5900x at one point?

[cyan raft]

I sold the 5900x

And my gpu I usually change in my name like every week whenever I feel like it

[finite elm]

Weren't getting the performance you wanted or did you feel it was a waste?

[cyan raft]

Nope a guy offered me $700 for it

I bought it for $550

[finite elm]

Oh wow

[cyan raft]

Didn’t get around to buying a new one yet

[finite elm]

Feels bad man

They are up on amd direct like every week for 20 minutes to like, 4 or 5 hours

He musta been desperate lol

[devout moth]

SpiceKody#0710 has been warned

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[vast meadow]

Also been up on wegg for like at least 3 or so weeks in stock at like 10$ above msrp

[tender wing]

Basically, I need some help regarding my prebuilt HP Pavillion, it has a single channel 1x16gb kit and i was trying to upgrade it to a dual channel 32gb kit. The one in the already built in pc is a 2933mhz one and the one i was looking to buy and upgrade is 3000mhz. Now my issue is the ram frequency: As you know, if you get a ram kit, you dont immediately get the frequency that it has been advertised with, e.g 3200mhz, you usally get a lower frequency that can be adjusted in BIOS/XMP (which HP prebuilts dont allow), so my question is: Will I be able to upgrade to a 2933mhz 32gb dual channel setup or am i going to be capped at the lower starting frequency speed of the ram kit i bought to upgrade it (in this case like 2100mhz or something idk)

[vast meadow]

What motherboard and cpu does youe pc have and what kit did you buy?

[tender wing]

cant send pics

nor links

...

[vast meadow]

@tender wing it's cuz your level, dm me the links and pics and I'll repost here

https://support.hp.com/de-de/document/c07631141

@tender wing can you download cpu z and check what chipset you have under the mainboard tab

[tender wing]

i dont have the pc yet, i ordered it, its gonna be there in a week or so

but ill do that

[vast meadow]

Might actually allow xmp because it's a 11th gen chip

Ahh

[tender wing]

i asked someone in another discord, he said im finna be capped

carters cacti

you know that one?

[tender wing]

well, as you know, HP disallows you to use XMP

[vast meadow]

Btw there is a chance your pc doesn't like the new ram stick with the old one, it's always best to by a 2x16 kit brand new or whatever but you can give it a go

[tender wing]

yeah im aware..

idk i might just stick with the single channel one

single channel is bad though..

[vast meadow]

But they might let you because if it's an i7 11700 it's probs on a b560 which allows memory overclocking(xmp)

[tender wing]

ill check that

[vast meadow]

I wouldn't take too much advice from there, a lot of ppl don't know what they talking bout, toxic server anyway

[tender wing]

bet.

i hope you know what i was talking about at the beginning

cuz

its kinda complicated to explain

[vast meadow]

Yes i getcha

Well i mean you can always return the kit if you can't enable xmp/ doesn't work

[tender wing]

is there going to be a big performance boost between like 32gb dual channel and 16gb single channel

probably will

[tender wing]

yeah

[vast meadow]

Dual channel can give like 20% or so extra perf

[tender wing]

yeah..

[devout moth]

rauchn | Juicer#9267 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tender wing]

...

cant i like flash a new windows so i can enable xmp? their preinstalled windows just disables most of the overclocking stuff

[vast meadow]

Ehh it's bios based

So no

[tender wing]

damn

[vast meadow]

It's got nothing to do with Windows

[tender wing]

might change mobo then

but i cba

[vast meadow]

Uhh

That's not gonna work most like

Likely

[tender wing]

how so

[vast meadow]

Oems like hp dell usually use proprietary connectors

[tender wing]

yeah they dont let you upgrade stuff so you need to stick to what you get

hm yeah

[vast meadow]

So you would need new mobo new psu and new case most likely

[tender wing]

whats the usual freq your ram gets set to after first booting it without XMP?

for 3000mhz kits?

[vast meadow]

Depends on the kit, some are 2133, some are 2666

I have never seen 3000 without xmp

[tender wing]

3000mhz ?

i sent u the image

in dms

do you think their hp ram gets automatically set to the ram they advertise?

hence you cant xmp really.

unlike the other non-prebuilt ones

[vast meadow]

Yeah probs

[tender wing]

aight

[vast meadow]

But it's probs like 3000mhzcl19 or some icky stuff knowing oems lol

Still better than 2133 tho

[tender wing]

2133 is probably a big difference in comparison to 3000mhz lol

so it is really worth upgrading and trying though

if that doesnt work, ill just use the gpu and cpu and get a new case, mobo and psu

[vast meadow]

Gl

[tender wing]

do you think that'll work out

probs not gonna do it

but idk i really want dual channel and better frequency

[vast meadow]

Ehh just see if it works first tbh

[tender wing]

yeah imma do that, ill message you via dms if i get it

thanks though :)

[vast meadow]

Np

[urban jay]

does anyone know if the asus x570-p prime supports ryzen 5000 out of the box?

[vast meadow]

It depends how long it's been sitting on the shelf but i wouldn't get that board, b550 is gonna be a better bet for you tbh, b550 msi tomohawk or asus b550 tuf instead tbh

[urban jay]

ok, do b550 boards support ryzen 5000 out of the box?

[smoky widget]

Yes, if the BIOS that is in the board is supported @urban jay

after that you my have to updated it again to have the latest version

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/all-series/PRIME-X570-P/HelpDesk_BIOS/ @urban jay Do not install the beta version 4010

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/all-series/PRIME-X570-P/HelpDesk_CPU/

[vast meadow]

Most will i would get a b550 instead tho, x570 should only be got unless you need more pcie 4 lanes which hardly anyone does

[deft helm]

I’m getting 3200mhz cl16 upgrading from cl15 2133 mhz. I have currently a ryzen 5 3600, and a 5700xt. Would I see improvements?

[split copper]

Yeah

A bit

[vast meadow]

yes, but i would get 3600cl16 or if you cant afford/ dont want to spend that much, 3600cl18 instead

just remember to enable xmp in the bios when you get it

[deft helm]

It’s a 32gb kit

Those speeds are way too expensive at that capacity for me

3600 cl18 is the same full latency anyways

As 3200 cl16

There’s very marginal and they trade flows

Blows from what I watched

[limber dragon]

3600c18 has the same effective cas latency as 3200c16, but 3600 will have ~12% more bandwidth

[deft helm]

The price difference isn’t worth it for more bandwidth for me, the 3200 tends to be a lot cheaper, especially during this shortage bc demand is so high they can just sell them like hot cakes

[vast meadow]

Not really ram pricing is about normal bit higher than it was before but not shortage

[deft helm]

Digital trend was talking ab how memory modules are in a shortage

[split copper]

Maybe it can be overclocked to 3600m

[deft helm]

The reviews said it ocer locks good enough

Overclocks

[split copper]

There ya go

[deft helm]

Just gotta keep it cool

[sweet echo]

anyonone have a great motherboard for a good price and for a first pc ?

[split copper]

If you don't mind the limitations that they bring, the lowest end chipset boards can be nice

H510 for Intel, A520 for AMD

[deft helm]

Yeah what’re you planning to put in it

Gpu/cpu wise

And storage is important

[vast meadow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8QcCJ/silicon-power-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdaj7 cheapest 3200cl16 kit vs https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PJ6qqs/team-t-force-vulcan-z-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tlzgd432g3600hc18jdc01 cheapest 3600cl18 it's like 10$ more

[vast meadow]

More gddr6 and g6x but i suppose

[sweet echo]

my bad for a micro atx board ?

[vast meadow]

You need to say which CPU you wanna use too btw

[deft helm]

^

[sweet echo]

amd ryzen 9 5600x

[split copper]

Hmm

Naming scheme moment

[sweet echo]

2tb hdd and 2tb m.2 with 16gb ram

[split copper]

What CPU again

[sweet echo]

ryzen 9 5900x

[split copper]

Ok

[vast meadow]

Ans you want micro atx?

[split copper]

Need a lot of cores?

[vast meadow]

Do you want wifi?

[sweet echo]

if possible

im lan

[vast meadow]

And why so many cores lol?

[sweet echo]

i got the cpu half off

[vast meadow]

Damm nice

[split copper]

Oh neat

[sweet echo]

i dont have a gpu still saving for one

[vast meadow]

Asus tuf b550m, msi mortar b550m

One of those

[vast meadow]

Well you wont be able to use the CPU without a gpu btw

[sweet echo]

yeah its a project build

my current pc is a pile of #$#@

[vast meadow]

Fair

Lol

[split copper]

Vroom

[sweet echo]

it has a amd athlon 3000g and no gpu 2tb hdd and no m.2 and has a case fan with string hanging over the cpu and yeah

[vast meadow]

Just get some 3600cl16 ram for that

Ahh fair

[sweet echo]

i built it in jan and was broke so yeah

[vast meadow]

You might want a new psu too btw

[sweet echo]

like i know what that is its my first pc lol

[vast meadow]

Power supply

And also you're gonna need a good cooler

[sweet echo]

i have a 650 watt rn

[vast meadow]

Yeah but what 650w

[split copper]

A good one hopefully

[sweet echo]

evga i think

its got the bronze stuff

[split copper]

What model does it say

I have an EVGA 450BR

for example

It's an okay unit

[sweet echo]

600

[vast meadow]

We gonna need a model number

It's usually 2 letters or a letter and number with evga

[sweet echo]

600br

[vast meadow]

That would do for a 3060 or something

Wouldn't put more on that tbh

[deft helm]

600w is recommended for 3070

[hollow thorn]

br isn't

If you grab like a cx650, yea, that should do

[deft helm]

I ran a 5700xt for 6 months with a evga br

🤷‍♂️

I got a 750 because I wanted more headroom

[vast meadow]

its the quality of the power supply thats the problem not the wattage, also 3070 is 650w reccomended

[deft helm]

Oh my buddy told me it was 600, my bad.

[vast meadow]

but its more the quality of psu thats the problem not the wattage

a good 600w is perfectly fine for a 3070

but yours is kinda meh :/

[deft helm]

Not my current one

I have an even shittier one now

But more wattage

Thermaltake smart 700w

80+ white

[split copper]

Smart

[devout moth]

Graison#2062 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[deft helm]

Oops

Talk crap but it’s lasted a year with a 5700xt and a 3600

[vast meadow]

Ohh noo

[split copper]

A year

[vast meadow]

I ran my 3070 for the 1st 2 months on an evga w1 600w what but i could tell the difference when i upgraded to a better psu, stability etc

[deft helm]

The difference is scoffable

[hollow thorn]

Doesn't have anything to do with efficiency rating

[vast meadow]

80 plus Efficiency doesn't matter to quality

[devout moth]

Graison#2062 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[deft helm]

White

I mispelled white ..

[deft helm]

I was replying to this

[split copper]

I don't think my old unit was 80+ certified

Thanks Lenovo

[deft helm]

All I know is that it has very solid reviews

[vast meadow]

Shame it wasn't a dell psu

[vast meadow]

Then they are bad reviews

[deft helm]

My cousins new dell prebuilt had an 80+ platinum psu

[vast meadow]

Dell make great proprietary psus yeah lol

[deft helm]

It’s tier 3 on the psu tier list

The smart series

🤷‍♂️

It’s very solid for the price

[hollow thorn]

uh

smart 80+ is tier d

[split copper]

Does dell make their own psus

[hollow thorn]

80+ white is tier d

[deft helm]

I’m looking at the old one then

[hollow thorn]

BR is tier C

[deft helm]

Bc it is in letters

Not numbers

[hollow thorn]

wat

It has never been in numbers

we're looking at different tierlists

we use this one
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

[deft helm]

The Linus tech tips one

Was previously in numbers

[hollow thorn]

pretty sure it wasn't

[deft helm]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-old/

I checked and I have a 750 w one I got from Best Buy

[hollow thorn]

oh the really really old one

but yea, that's a different tier list

different guy, different people who worked on it

[deft helm]

That just shows not to trust tier lists

“For igpu systems”

I have had one for over a year with a high end system and it’s worked fine

[hollow thorn]

They list their sources and info

and well, how exactly fine has it worked?

[deft helm]

Havent had coil wine

Or blue screens

[hollow thorn]

coil whine doesn't have any impacts on performance

[deft helm]

Only a couple green screens because my gpu shipped with old unstable bios

[hollow thorn]

what might would be voltreg

grab like gpuz and check the 12v rail

[deft helm]

I will I’m @ the gym rn.

[hollow thorn]

there's also just missing protection features being missing

[deft helm]

Wdym

I’m not a power supply expert by any means

[hollow thorn]

not quite missing but

let's take EVGA N1 for example

and I'm just gonna quote tom's hardware on their review

We could easily kill this PSU since OCP (overcurrent protection) at 12V is not correctly set, but we aborted the test and let it live since we only have one sample to conduct all tests. The 5V rail was unable to deliver its advertised full power, while the 3.3V rail's OCP is sky-high, so ripple on this rail gets out of control. Finally, the Over Power Protection should be lower than 130%, given the platform's capabilities.

protections are what shuts off the PSU when something goes wrong

if you pull too much power and it starts burning itself, for example

Sure, if you bought a 800w psu and are only pulling 500w, those protections being missing won't really affect you directly

but doesn't mean the psu is good

[deft helm]

Oh yeah I’m not saying it’s a top tier psu, I’m just saying dumping on it for not being the best isn’t fair

That thing at 50 something dollars ran a pretty power consuming rig for over a year

[hollow thorn]

and ripple is what it sounds like, here's the ripple on the 12v rail for example

so basically, it's unstable

varies a lot

[deft helm]

Should I check it on gpuz when I get home before I upgrade my ram

Or with the ram not@make a power draw difference really

[hollow thorn]

don't even remember if gpuz has the 12v rail measurements

and what I'm saying is not your computer is going to blow up

your computer is clearly not going to blow up

I'm saying these are little things that can affect you

gpuz might not have it

thought gpuz had it

[deft helm]

Well I’ll figure it out, wasn’t going to upgrade it when I finally snagged a 3070/3060ti but I def am now

When I built my pc last summer psu prices where jusy unresdonable

[hollow thorn]

but anyways, unstable power is not nice because well, components expect 12v from the 12v rail, and when they don't get it, they might not be able to perform as well as they should have

not like it's going to be perfect either, measurements from my motherboard via hwinfo64 on my 12v rail atm

[vast meadow]

I would grab a enermax revolution d.f. or msi mpg or phanteks amp when you do manage to get a new gpu

[hollow thorn]

@deft helm I'll give you the information you need to make your own decisions, here's tom's hardware's article on all about PSUs, more technical information and such
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supplies-101,4193.html

[deft helm]

We’ll see. Def going to see if I can get some extra money from reselling my gpu to afford it. Having to build all of this myself at 15 and having to work for all of the parts and trying to save for a car at the same time, so I’m probably going to try and go for the cheapest possible good psu from that list or other reputable sources

[hollow thorn]

Knowledge is power

[deft helm]

Yeah I’ll read that and be able to make a more educated decision

[split copper]

Knowledge of power supplies is even more power

[burnt spear]

Unlimited power

[nova dew]

Anyone familiar with ASUS motherboards?

I’m looking everywhere and cannot find LLC or load line calibration settings for it

As I say that I find it. Lmao never mind!

[limber dragon]

digi+ vrm settings

might be called digi+ power

[mild jackal]

f9 is search

[devout moth]

aaalbram#9234 has been warned

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[keen surge]

Good idea or no?: Upgrading from 1.45V G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x16GB 3200MHz 16-18-18-38 RAM to 1.35V Crucial Ballistix RGB 2x32GB 3600MHz 16-18-18-38 RAM

[finite elm]

What do you use your PC for?

[keen surge]

Gaming, mainly. Here are the current specs. My goal ultimately is a Ryzen 7 5800X and a Radeon RX 6800XT https://i.imgur.com/UOXUncc.png

[finite elm]

What games?

There are a lot of games that push up to 16gb so 32 just for the extra wiggle room isn't a bad choice

Escape from tarkov, COD, etc.

[keen surge]

ARK Survival Evolved, X Rebirth, Tropico 5 and 6, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor, and Deus Ex Mankind Divided

[finite elm]

Yeah going up to 32 isn't out of the picture for you imo.

[keen surge]

I already have 32GB in a 2x16GB configuration. I'm wanting to upgrade to 64GB in a 2x32GB configuration

[finite elm]

Oh, 64gb would be a bit much

We aren't there yet lol.

Not for gaming at least

[keen surge]

Future-proofing + no swap, tho

[hollow thorn]

The future you're future proofing for will be one where we're using ddr5

[keen surge]

Ah

[finite elm]

Maybe if you were using games on a ramdisk though 🤷‍♂️

[hollow thorn]

If you're barely really using more than 16gb

Needing above 32gb won't come for a while

[vast meadow]

If you don't mind spending a few hours overclocking i would just overclock to 3600cl18 instead of buying a new kit, but if you really want 64gb ram then sure

[mild birch]

BASED games

[pliant rock]

I know oveclocking gives your CPU a little more power, but is it really all that worth it?

Also can’t it shorten the lifespan of hardware? Or potentially damage it, seems that’s what a lot of crypto miners are doing currently with selling these over performed cards for cheap.

[celest anchor]

Depends on what worth it means to you

[celest anchor]

if you do it incorrectly

[vast meadow]

Anyone who knows what their doing with their crypto cards will actually be better for the card, having a constant temperature instead of gaming where it will be jumping between 60c and ambient when turned off for example

In terms of life span that is, but unless the miners where messing with voltages and doing a horrible job at it they can't damage the card with mining

[devout moth]

lilvoss#4089 has been warned

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[jagged pier]

Anyone know a good place to get binned chips?

[cursive epoch]

https://siliconlottery.com/

[jagged pier]

they d o n t h a v e s t o c k

[cursive epoch]

well they do for some stuff

can't complain for special stuff tho

[vast meadow]

Why do you want a good binned chip?

[jagged pier]

minecraft server

single core go burrrrrrrrrrrr

i liked they do have some stock

[finite elm]

Amd direct 🤷‍♂️ buy it return it then try again?

[cursive epoch]

binned cpu wouldn't matter much for an mc server tbh

it's just paying for smol difference

[jagged pier]

nothing amd but intel is p r o b a b l y better but intel mobos feel bad that they dont support multiple platforms

uhhh

[cursive epoch]

wha?

[jagged pier]

every little bit helps when you start running into lag wit a lot of players

[cursive epoch]

am4 is gonna either stop at this gen or one last refresh

so I wouldn't sweat with intel's lga1200

[jagged pier]

yea that too i might wait

am5 leaks

[finite elm]

AM5 should be next year

[vast meadow]

Just get a 5800x or 5900x

[finite elm]

5950x and disable 4 cores 🤡

[jagged pier]

i dont need cores i need sped

[vast meadow]

[jagged pier]

sanic sped

[finite elm]

Amd wins single core

[vast meadow]

5800x or 5900x

[jagged pier]

5800 seems giga smooth brain

[vast meadow]

Nope

It's quite good

And 400$

[jagged pier]

intel is still better for minecraft i beleive

[vast meadow]

Nope

[vast meadow]

Amd wins in single core perf this gen

[jagged pier]

yes but in this usecase

this VERY specific use case

[cursive epoch]

nah

[vast meadow]

Doesn't matter, ryzen 5000 has better single core, Minecraft LOVES single core

[cursive epoch]

it's not like that anymore

[jagged pier]

#cpus-mobo-and-memory message

[finite elm]

For a Minecraft server? Get a Dell optiplex with a 4th gen i7 and call it a day. 🤷‍♂️

If you really think you need vroom vroom and save a few bucks, go Intel i7 10700k.

If money is no concern, go 5800x or 5900x

[jagged pier]

this is my source

@limber dragon how do you know this?

[vast meadow]

ONCE OVERCLOCKED

Are you gonna overclock it and put a very nice cooler on it?

[vast meadow]

Tbh a 10850k will struggle with 20 players with lots of entities

[jagged pier]

hence binning

[vast meadow]

But are you gonna properly oc it?

[jagged pier]

why would I not

[finite elm]

If he's hosting for 20 people he should pay for a host. Opening your port is dangerous

[jagged pier]

no just routing it through AWS

[vast meadow]

Okay then just get a regular 10850k, no point paying extra for a binned cpu unless you're doing liquid nitrogen overclocking

[jagged pier]

did not figure that part out yet but soon™️

[jagged pier]

this is not true

[vast meadow]

It's a larger server but say 20 active players at a time and ehh they already build the server

[jagged pier]

oc is oc

[vast meadow]

What lol

[cursive epoch]

to oc you don't need binned chips

[jagged pier]

.1 Ghz (not mhz) is a linear 2% increase in preformance

[cursive epoch]

wut

[jagged pier]

every bit matters

[vast meadow]

What?

No

[cursive epoch]

i hope you're trolling

[jagged pier]

ghz

[vast meadow]

.1mhz is nothing legit

.1ghz is a bit

[finite elm]

I think you're taking this Minecraft server a little bit too seriously ngl

[cursive epoch]

oh 100mhz, that's less than 2%

and it's not always linear

you wouldn't notice it at all

or even mc server

[jagged pier]

yes but you see im an idiot

[vast meadow]

I'm saying to take advantage of a binned chip you wanna be using ln2 and ocing just for scores

[jagged pier]

say server can handle 50 people, 2% is another person

[vast meadow]

Just get a 5900x and enable pbo

[cursive epoch]

why would you wanna overpay when there's 5800x or 5900x waiting for same or less

and ryzens are pretty much binned from factory

[finite elm]

My brother used to host (Xbox) ark for 5 people on an i5 4460 🤷‍♂️

[vast meadow]

More cores aint gonna be any harm either

[cursive epoch]

especially with pbo and nice cooling

[vast meadow]

5900x artic liquid 360mm and a decent b550 board boom

[cursive epoch]

modern cpus are made to be pushed to their max generally

[jagged pier]

more cores is the last thing i need to pay for what the guy said about buying from amd direct is probably the best idea

[cursive epoch]

with very few odd ones that's lucky

[jagged pier]

just get 10 5600x and roll dice

[cursive epoch]

uh you wouldn't need to worry about it on amd much

[vast meadow]

You can get a 5800x for 400$ on newegg rn

[finite elm]

I guess you could benchmark each of them 🤣

[vast meadow]

Buying direct for a 5600x or 5800x would be a waste considering under msrp on newegg

[cursive epoch]

ocing is not for performance gains nowadays

it's mainly just to flex

[finite elm]

Amd direct is good for 5900x and 5950x

[cursive epoch]

unless you do ram oc too

[finite elm]

Cause mc and Newegg either don't have them or they are over msrp

[jagged pier]

ryzen chips have good boosting behavior yee but a better chip will bost better

[vast meadow]

Ehh yes but most boost great, having a good cooler will let pbo boost higher

[finite elm]

I guess we should start with that^ what cooler are you thinking of using?

[vast meadow]

Ehh for either you'd wanna use Arctic liquid 360mm

Because of the fact its the best and cheap

[jagged pier]

its serber air cooler

[vast meadow]

And it's a server so looks don't matter

[finite elm]

Is EK not good?

[vast meadow]

Yes the ek rgb is good but more expensive and arctic best

[jagged pier]

water cooling seems bad id rather just hook an ac unit to it

[vast meadow]

There's definitely no point in getting a binned chip if you're only gonna oc on air

[finite elm]

Get the Air duct tubes and put them right on the vents?

[vast meadow]

No it's not, they have 8 year warranties and perform better for the same price

[vast meadow]

https://youtu.be/KPaSEGe6ML0

[cursive epoch]

aio ain't gonna leak from a good brand

[vast meadow]

Arctic liquid ii is legit the best possible so far

[cursive epoch]

also ryzen needs aio to run good, esp 5000 series

it'll let it push as much as it could with pbo

[finite elm]

Hence why the 5800x and up stopped coming with coolers 😬

[vast meadow]

Well 5600x would run happily on a scythe fuma 2 tbf but yeah can get toasty

[cursive epoch]

yeah

well it wouldn't push as high on pbo

probably not much diff but the temp kinda hurts

[vast meadow]

Pbo boost higher the lower the temps are yee

[pliant rock]

So I took out the backplate of my motherboard to replace it with the Liquid cooler, little did I know that was unnecessary. So I’m trying to put it back in but it’s loose, and I can’t remember if I’m forgetting something

I have these in though, but I can’t remember what screw goes in them

[vast meadow]

You gotta screw the cooler right into it i think

[tawdry pebble]

Should I buy a 10700f instead of a 11400f

It's only 50 dollars more expensive

?

@vast meadow ?

[burnt spear]

What gpu do you have and what's the point of the pc?

[tawdry pebble]

3070 for gaming

[tawdry pebble]

80*

[crude flume]

get the 11400f

[vast meadow]

11400 games better

[crude flume]

you dont need more for gaming

[tawdry pebble]

Ok thx alot

[vast meadow]

Np

[burnt spear]

Yeah 11400f has better single core

[fossil imp]

Up to you but the 11400f is newer generation and more than likely better than the 10700f

[vast meadow]

Yup, 10700 can be good in cases where they are a multi tasker and can't afford a 5800x in their budget for example but for purely gaming 11400 beats it

[dim cloak]

How good is the XPG GAMMIX D20 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16

[vast meadow]

Just as good as any other 3200mhz cl16 kit, if you're buying 3200cl16 still just buy the cheapest 3200cl16 kit

[burnt spear]

That's pretty decent ram, if you have a ryzen cpu I'd go with 3600mhz though

Oh I'm blind

[dim cloak]

I have the 11600k and i found that 3200mhz works best with it

[burnt spear]

Yeah that kits good for an 11600k

[dim cloak]

Was it a bad deal tho for the 2×8gb for $69

[burnt spear]

That's a pretty good price

[vast meadow]

The 11600k will easily run 4400mhz cl18 ram

[burnt spear]

My 3600mhz cl18 cost the same used

[vast meadow]

That's decent

[dim cloak]

Ok good cause after this build is done i gotta save to travel across country for a week and its gonne be pricey so i was wondering if i made a good buy

[vast meadow]

Yeah

[dim cloak]

And thanks to everyone that helped me out when its done sometime after Aug 11 ill have a pic posted in a blacked out minimal rgb pc build

[pure fox]

Anybody have any suggestions for RAM to pair with a 5800x? I’ve been looking into this:
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374144?Item=N82E16820374144&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-374-144-_-08052021

[burnt spear]

3600mhz is a good starting point

I'd say cl16, not much more $ than cl18

[vast meadow]

Ryzen most of the time won't run on 4000mhz (also that's way to much for that ram kit) so you would need to tune it down to 3800 manually most likely, I'd recommend just getting 3600mhz ballistix instead and ocing up to 3800mhz if you want to ram overclock, or just leave it at xmp if you cba

[fossil imp]

Yup. The new gen takes the cake with gaming, that's for sure

[devout moth]

ASAP_ZAMIN#5055 has been warned

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[finite elm]

Rgb makes your fps go vroom

[dim cloak]

thats my current build rn its rgb vomit everywhere

[finite elm]

That's peak gaming unicorn vomit

[dim cloak]

indeed

[devout moth]

CruzBrandon#4507 has been warned

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[pulsar island]

Help

My graphics artifacted then crashed and is now undetected

[magic niche]

What does artifacted mean

[pulsar island]

Half of the screen went yellow and sections of my screen stopped updating

then it crashed

It also started spewing errors of graphics errors

[vast meadow]

Does it show up in task manager?

Well actually

Doesn't matter cuz unless you have monitor connected to the motherboard you're using the graphics card

[pulsar island]

its detected and all that

but its artifacting from time to time

[magic niche]

How do i know if this has on board graphics?

Check this out on @Newegg: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Vermeer 6-Core 3.7 GHz Socket AM4 65W 100-100000065BOX Desktop Processor

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-5600x/p/N82E16819113666?Item=N82E16819113666&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-19-113-666-_-08062021

[pulsar island]

that doesnt have graphics

the only Ryzen cpus with graphics

Are the ones with G in the name

Ryzen 3 3200g 5 3400g those stuff

thats the 5600x a 6c12t processor with no integrated graphics

[vast meadow]

Are the drivers up to date? And you could always try underclock it mb

[pulsar island]

Im downloading the 2013 drivers again rn

I underclocked it but temps arent an issue

I literally have 2 heatsinks on the iGPU

and it has its own fan XDF

[vast meadow]

Yeah only ryzen cpus with g at the end have integrated graphics but the g ryzen cpus are nowhere near as good as the non g cpus

[pulsar island]

well isnt the 3400g basically a 3100x with graphics numbers wise?

4c 8t

[vast meadow]

Nope

[pulsar island]

but the 3400g is older architecture

[vast meadow]

The 3x00g cpus are zen+(Ryzen 2000) basically

[pulsar island]

yup yup

were those 14nm?

or were they already 7nm

[vast meadow]

Yeah iirc

[pulsar island]

iirc 1st and 2nd gen were 14nm

[vast meadow]

12 mb i can't remember exactly

[pulsar island]

and the 3000g is 2nd gen with graphics

[vast meadow]

1st gen 14 2nd 12nm iirc

[pulsar island]

and 4000g is 3rd gen with graphics

I wanna try the 4750g

[cursive epoch]

it's oem only

so 5700g would be the right chip

[devout moth]

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[devout moth]

not hali#2229 has been warned

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Reason: Too many infractions

[slow talon]

finally

i have the nvidia cpu

[vast meadow]

[split copper]

Amazing

[naive pendant]

Huh

[fossil imp]

[dim cloak]

[vernal cosmos]

Do you have a zotac ddr5 i20 10900KFC xeonripper 5g tho?

Because I do

@slow talon

[naive pendant]

ima have to buy something simular to https://www.amazon.com/Controller-Control-Adjustable-Brightness-Computer/dp/B08HVN84GQ/ if i want rgb

is this the best thing to buy, the best way to go about it?

about these fans before i even had my pc done

(i bought it part by part)

didnt realize i had rgb strip headers,

not rgb fan headers

thus, here we are

2 fans that have rgb doing nothing

less i get one of those,

but should i just get new fans all togeather? is it worth it to spend it on smn like that?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F5C1CDX/ the fans btw

[devout moth]

Direfulheart#3801 has been warned

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[finite elm]

4750g is available on Amazon.

[cursive epoch]

well it's not officially by amd

some may leak out but that's it

[finite elm]

Overpriced though tbf. 379$

[cursive epoch]

you could actually do preorders and stuff too in my country

[finite elm]

No reason to get it over a 5700g

[cursive epoch]

i meant backorder

but ye

[lethal glacier]

Whats some good 32gb ram?

[vernal cosmos]

ballistix

[vast meadow]

For what cpu? Intel 10th/11th gen on a b560/z490/z590? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dqbTwP/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-4000-cl18-memory-f4-4000c18d-32gvk this, for ryzen https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GR6qqs/oloy-warhawk-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl16-memory-nd4u1636161dcwdx or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9y848d/crucial-ballistix-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k16g36c16u4w if you want to overclock your ram(not for the light hearted)

[cyan raft]

Crucial Ballistix

[mild jackal]

Why that for ryzen?

That looks like djr 🤮

[vast meadow]

Just cheap 3600cl16 kits for ppl that don't wanna oc

[mild jackal]

Oh, formatting unclear, saw the top link

[vast meadow]

Ahh yeah my b

On mobile didn't realize lol

[mild jackal]

That's overpriced for not rev.e/b lol

[vast meadow]

Which is?

[mild jackal]

oloy

Honestly in 2021, either buy b-die or rev.e/b for daily

[vast meadow]

Mm yeah but it's the cheapest 3600cl16

[vast meadow]

Any reason why over other dies?

[mild jackal]

$22 more for the good stuff is worth it

[vast meadow]

Fair enough

[mild jackal]

Easier on the memory controller, room for OC if they choose

[vast meadow]

Ohh didn't realize it was easier on the mem controller?

[mild jackal]

rev.e/b are, b-die is the opposite

[vast meadow]

Is there a place for that info or just what they say?

Ahh how is rev e/b less intensive?

[mild jackal]

The reasons are very technical, beyond my knowledge

[vast meadow]

Ahh okey good to know

[mild jackal]

anyway, the arshiacord's technical channels are a great place to ask for that kind of info

There are probably some pinned google docs, could also search for gsheet links

[vast meadow]

Okay thank I'll ask arshia lol

[mild jackal]

Not just him, but lot of ram enthusiasts will be active in the ram specific channels there

[vast meadow]

I've seen so far yeah

[hidden spoke]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/803669030241435698/867398029073448970/image0-17.gif

me with my new Ryzen 7 5700G

[split copper]

AM2 to LGA 775 mod

[dense patio]

Hi all. Hoping i might be able to get a little help with finding some PC upgrades for myself.
I currently have an ASRock Z370 Pro4 woth an i7-8700k.
I would like to upgrade my motherboard and was debating on if i should also look to upgrade my CPU as well.
I would like to eventually get myself a 3080/3080ti to go with this as a side note.
I need the mobo to have atleast 4-5 sata ports and 2 m.2 slots. I have a Phanteks evolv x case too which has a USB-C slot on the front of it so would like the motherboard to have headers for this available on it.
I know i can do the whole narrow down thing on pc part picker but at the same time, so much has changed recently and i have kind of lost track as to what i would be looking at as being good/bad now in terms of mobos and CPU. Would anyone be able to point me towards some good suggestions to consider.
Let me know if there is any further info you would like to know from me, if you can help

[vast meadow]

Only reason to upgrade your motherboard would be to upgrade the cpu tbh, i would just update the bios and stick a i9 9900k on there but if not I'd go ryzen 5800x or up

[dense patio]

Yeah i was kinda thinking that would be the only reason tbh.
I am just wanted to try and ensure i have a good match between GPU and CPU for when i eventually get my hands on a 3080(ti)

[vast meadow]

9900k would be a nice match with a 3080(ti)

Just ehh i would buy used, most likely the 9900k if still being sold at retail is overpriced af

[dense patio]

The case i have has a USB 3.1 GEN 2 type-c slot. Can this be connected onto a USB 3.2 Gen 1 header?

I just realised my motherboard has one of these after checking the specs but dont know if they can be connected together

[vast meadow]

I think it should, as long as it has a type c header on the mobo

[dense patio]

That's what I am in need of. I didn't think my motherboard had one which is one of the reasons i wanted to upgrade my mobo but if it works with that header then i might be ok

[vast meadow]

Ahh yeah no the type c connector will not work, but do you have a spare usb 3 header because you can get adapters on Amazon for like a tenner

[dense patio]

I don't actually know honestly. But also didn't know that was a thing either

Ok so it sounds like my mobo is good and i should just upgrade the CPU to 9900K then. And you suggest getting the CPU second hand if i can?

[dense patio]

What would you class as a good second hand price for the 9900k?
I see one on ebay for £255 which looks to be good based on details i see elsewhere online

[vast meadow]

I feel like 255 is a bit high for 2nd hand, maybe check r/hardwareswapuk on reddit

[dense patio]

Good to know. Thanks

[vast meadow]

im saying that as its 290 on amazon but yeah

[dense patio]

I'm guessing £290 brand new is still high?

[vast meadow]

Ehh i mean it's not terrible if that's the way it id then ¯_(ツ)_/¯ but ideally lower would be nicer

[dense patio]

I don't even know what is meant to be a good price for anything anymore. This is freaking annoying

[vast meadow]

ehh i wouldnt complain about 250 but lower better, if you could get to like 220 or something i think that would be nice

also no harm trying facebook market place etc

[dense patio]

Oh yeah like the current cost doesnt sound terrible. I mean just the PC space in general right now. There are a few bits i am interested in but the costs are just huge

I'd be interested in going for the ryzen 9 whatever is was instead but pretty sure costs on that are just dumb right now

[vast meadow]

well the thing is 9900k would be a fairly nice option as its close to 10700 perf without having to mobo swap but ehh also 9900k is gonna be the cheapest upgrade thats worth it and eu/uk is kinda meh place to buy used tech unfortunately

[dense patio]

Ive always been sceptical of buying used tech tbh. Only like to buy it off someone i know and trust if im gonna do it

Might look to upgrade my AIO if i do get that CPU then

That's gonna be another fun one to figure out

[vast meadow]

What aio you got atm?

[dense patio]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/9gRFf7/cooler-master-masterliquid-lite-240-667-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-mlw-d24m-a20pw-r1
This one i think.
Id like to try and get a 3 fan rad though. Forget what sizing that is. so that i can fill across the top of my case
And then get some fans that are much quieter. I replaced the fans on it for some corsair ones but cant remember the model of the fan

[vast meadow]

its not a great aio but it might just be alright for a non oc'd 9900k

[dense patio]

quite like the look of the new lian li uni fans which sound like they could be suitable for aio and very silent

[vast meadow]

youre thinking of 360mm

i would recommend arctic liquid freezer ii or lian li galahad

[dense patio]

fans?

[vast meadow]

not much point of putting aftermarket fans on an aio

[vast meadow]

they are aios

[dense patio]

I replaced the default ones that came with it because the other oens were really loud and one of them was somehow clipping the rad when it spun up faster and be even louder from that

[vast meadow]

i see

[dense patio]

I want to try and get my PC as quiet as possible so that i can keep it on overnight as the PC is on my desk right next to my bed

[vast meadow]

also the lian li unifans are like 100 for a 3 pack or like 50 each lol

[vast meadow]

then an arctic liquid ii 360mm

[vast meadow]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/2PFKHx/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-360-563-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00068a for non rgb, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/sg3gXL/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-360-rgb-488-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00097a regular rgb, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/y7wypg/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-360-a-rgb-488-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00101a argb

[dense patio]

I assume these are all the same models then. Just the bottom 2 have RGB fans.
Would be nice to add a litle extra colour to the PC but not looking for huge in your face kinda thing
(I'm able to sleep with lights on so solid RGB wont be an issue for that)

Oh looks like you mioght have just answered me haha

is regular RGB where its just a solid colour that i cant change but then ARGB is one that i can change around?

[vast meadow]

regular rgb is like yeah usually just cycles through in a pattern, argb is the one you can control

[dense patio]

Might do the ARGB then and i can control it to solid colours

[vast meadow]

Yeah

I would pay the few extra quid for it

[dense patio]

It would add a nice spark of colour to my case for sure

The inside of my case is very bland in colours 😂

[vast meadow]

stock cooler 💀

wait nvbm

im blind

jeez

[dense patio]

which bit were you refering to?

[vast meadow]

the cooler looked like stock for a sec

[dense patio]

the AIO?

oh yeah

read cooler as colour 😂

[vast meadow]

Lol

[dense patio]

I cant change the colour on that AIO i dont think. It's just the Cooler Master logo

Would be nice to change my RAM for something that isn't so random.
This build was my first build a few years back when i was just like eh that works lets do that.
But now i wanna go for something thats a little more decent looking and faster

currently running 16GB ram but hoping to go for 32GB eventually because i have been doing more virulisation stuff and would like the extra ram for that

[vast meadow]

Understandable

[dense patio]

So much I wanna change. All this money required 😂
gotta just try and do it bit by bit in a suitable order that works well for me

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[novel granite]

Hello can anyone help me first time to build so im hoping someone could help me with this just today i received my orders from newegg so my question is do i need to update my bios? since in the box it has a sticker written 5000x desktop ready.

[vast meadow]

Should be okay, if it doesn't boot then you'll need to flash bios but if it says 5000x desktop ready on the box you should be good to go

[scenic nimbus]

can i use my r5 1500x with my b550 msi tomahawk?

[split copper]

no, earlier zen chips lose support in 5xx series

https://www.amd.com/en/chipsets/b550

[grizzled bloom]

3000+ only on that board

Go for a good X470 if you want compatibility, I suggest MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max

[lost swan]

i got memory management on my new build

are there anyway to fix it or i have to get new ram

[vast meadow]

Errors i assume?

Are you running any overclocks on your ram?

[scenic nimbus]

i mean like i mainly want to know for updating for my newer cpu lol

also, how much do yall think my r5 1500x will bottleneck my new 6700xt?

[vast meadow]

Just buy the new motherboard when buying the new cpu

1080p, a good bit, 1440p, a bit less

But dw bout it there will always be bottlenecks

[scenic nimbus]

well you see, ive had the new mobo for awhile. im finally now getting a gpu from someone who was willing to do payments. however my next paycheck is going to rent, then the one after i can do whatever with

therefore, i wont be able to get the new cpu til next month, so for the remainder of the month ill have the gpu, but no new cpu til then. hence why im asking because i want to be using the 6700xt

[vast meadow]

Stick it in until you can get your new cpu 100%

[scenic nimbus]

im just worried, i dont want the gpu to die or somethign dumb before i get it. so im just being overly cautious

[vast meadow]

Only thing that could kill your gpu is a bad power supply

Bottlenecking just means you're not getting all the performance possible out of something

[scenic nimbus]

i think recommended for it is 650

[vernal cosmos]

A hammer will also do it

[scenic nimbus]

or a firm yeet

[vast meadow]

Thank you for your input xD

[vernal cosmos]

You are welcome

but fr overclocking can kill a gpu too @vast meadow

[vast meadow]

Well ofc

But you know what i mean

[vernal cosmos]

Yes

even with overclocking you really have to try

gpu wise

easy to kill a cpu

vbios does a decent job of not allowing you to kill ur gpu

[vast meadow]

Yup