cpus-mobo-and-memory

[cursive epoch]

well the expensive high end kits, yes

but the ones we can probably afford aren't really that much faster than the high end of ddr4

[celest anchor]

that won't be the case

DDR5 is a massive improvement

[vast meadow]

Yeah after they get to refine it like they did with ddr4 lol

[celest anchor]

As I just said, DDR4 is basically DDR3+

DDR5 is a actually a big upgrade

[vast meadow]

Okay okay

[celest anchor]

DDR3 at the same clocks was actually better

then DDR4

due to having worse primaries, and also bank groups

[vast meadow]

Ohh i see

[brittle stirrup]

what motherboard can support overclocking amd apu

[vast meadow]

Which amd apu

B450 is probs your best bet because it supports ryzen 3200g/3400g

And with a bios update will support the 5600g and 5700g when they come out

[brittle stirrup]

ryzen 3 3200g

[vast meadow]

Any b450 will do

[brittle stirrup]

i can overclock on it?

[elfin warren]

All AMD boards are unlocked

[brittle stirrup]

oh

[burnt spear]

@elfin warren got a ram question, rip jaws 3600mhz cl18 2x8gb for 75$ (that includes shipping and PayPal fees)

Is that a decent price?

And its going with my cl18 3600mhz hp ram kit

[elfin warren]

sure, XMP speeds are XMP

Only really need to worry about chips if you're overclocking

[burnt spear]

Cool thanks

Is it a decent price?

It's used

[elfin warren]

Kinda. New is probably 90 or so

[burnt spear]

Yeah its this https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwiCv_797pzxAhUaMoYKHSTiBqwYABAHGgJ2dQ&agsac=wEUsMgWN7ZQ&cit=CkQKCAjwwqaGBhBjEjQATwL-i-UF95yebLvnpFN41pNFEh9JP5-gnbp2z2bIwUAhEhvcbFAczq1yWExXza-bJ0hVGgKBwvD_BwE&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQeD2xd5WxTge3ZIJjwnjrJSNF1mtGqunXn6IOSIZtcjg20XvMyCejA3QXWqdnFp9lXrMbYryIEoiNge7dB-xgLx9&sig=AOD64_18cnJyuR1wBbHdK1PwBNtBDftF-g&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwig_vT97pzxAhUOSTABHZHBBawQwg96BAgBECc&adurl=&ms=CoACpQX5FFcIgygGGgTU-8-RnW4ka0iGt0hHMQixt29MhpxrP67S9B7q3C9cVRuuoqSyChwkx2O0DYX4JEIOXkVzx_m7SfJKpfmb22cJZiigF9fOtZ3_qSP0TAftxq2x2bahBiyWpSVscK_CCZCHyOCV-iEOHKm8nVso3XP4Cen-MA6zH15BTa_4yLayL_EeSUru8T8q9DGfLJNMB9RX_3GlAE0eHMxg-hXWlzyPA4ry-NDacG6P5o3CIFI_IXk3coirlXXBEdwVWc5H5sDF9TLvX3WSYBGZqv-fdZhhsyL98nFeSxEu_OPSMbBF5MqRvh1fknNNdzWb4TJL8E3AQzdxhgqAAhfCADXC_evwHGkwpEII9ZL0YGgCdcYCMPSYg4WLbgOUmcUFS7LNJvgl_vaWiVjjRV0E9vssITubktwJMqXiLxsTPhu7yopmLdYFI_wH1TWpco3tUS4FmbPtv3ASNbvZIOA2zQ_HQHruWe5h8hgXHR2JwvXKALRxVTTHrgDCEmPP3oIhB7f16NFO7pWqO3V5wi8Bt9rHXDc2-DTqjxVX9uRMp6LEwdVPJQEO1RjR6MhZ2cHlnNQTty3rMq21Z7x70q69j77c7xEZC8UJpTOco8EAqO2UAVCbEHd01IVNYvJc_8avq1lDOinrzm520bqTXTA1Z9Zs_mG9Siz4XGgJfGwSEHwEAZp1qkdlgfGPI02DPbE

Someone said the heta spreader or whatever it's called sucks but idk if that really matters that much

That is a long link wow

[elfin warren]

I have Ripjaws 3600 C16 32Gb running in my machine now

It's perfectly fine

[burnt spear]

Kk thanks

[vast meadow]

It says it's 88$ ? Don't pay that price for them btw, just pay the extra 4$ at that stage for ballistix 3600

[burnt spear]

no im buying used off reddit

[vast meadow]

Ahh i see

[burnt spear]

was hoping to find some a bit cheaper but whatever

[vast meadow]

Then go to pc part picker and sort low to high for 3200mhz min cl16 max

[burnt spear]

Pairing with 3600mhz kit already so sticking with 3600

[vast meadow]

What 3600 kit?

To avoid issues you should really pair it with the same kit

They both better be 3600cl18 at least

[burnt spear]

Hp cl18 kit

https://www.biwintech.com/hp/item.html?product=82

[vast meadow]

You upgrading a prebuilt?

[burnt spear]

Nah I bought that ram a while ago on reddit for 40$

Technichally my pc was a pre built but the only things left are my gpu and cpu since screw skytech

[vast meadow]

Gimme a sec need to google the specs of this that site has like no useful info lol

3600 right?

[burnt spear]

Yeah lol, if I was at my pc I'd pull up cpu z but I'm at the vet rn

[vast meadow]

This ram looks actually awful ngl toms couldn't get the 3200 stick to post at any 3600 timing 💀

[burnt spear]

Wait what

[vast meadow]

Yeah you're gonna need to look at cpu z

There's like no specs for it lol

[burnt spear]

Wait the hp ram or the other ram?

[vast meadow]

Hp

G skill is good

[burnt spear]

It's currently running at 3600 well

Vintage helped me with that a lil while ago

Had to take out my 3000 mhz kit in the process which is why I'm buying this kit

It's either cl17 or cl18 tho, I know that much

[vast meadow]

I want to grab the other primary timings too tho

Cus they will be kinda important

Do you neeed 32gb of ram tho?

[burnt spear]

I checked it 2 days ago, it was cl16 17 17 18 I believe

If that sounds correct anyways

[burnt spear]

When I stream yeah

[vast meadow]

Also might be better selling that ram and saving another 20-40$ or so and getting 2x16gb sticks from ballistix r sum

[burnt spear]

Yeah I sold the 3000mhz kit alr

[vast meadow]

That's definitely not the case lol

[burnt spear]

If thats what you mean

[vast meadow]

No

I mean sell the hp kit

[burnt spear]

The hp kit runs fine at 3600

[vast meadow]

And save a bit more

[burnt spear]

And I've alr done so much to this pc

[vast meadow]

Okay

[burnt spear]

It's a completely new pc lmao

New mobo, ram, case, cpu fan, fans

[vast meadow]

We will see what the timings are like first and see if we can match that first

[burnt spear]

New psu

Skytech screwed me over so hard

Never going pre build again

[vast meadow]

But if the timings are bad then selling those and getting new ram would be the way to go

Some prebuilts are fine, just not skytech or dell XD

[burnt spear]

That's probably not going to happen anytime soon, but I'll check them when I get home

[burnt spear]

Yeah wish I knew more about pcs when I bought

[vast meadow]

It happens

[burnt spear]

I started learning about pcs in Nov, and bought it late dec

First I went with an acer predator triton (some numbers I forget what) with a 2070s, so many issues

Keyboard broke, it said it was max p on amazon, it was max q, it overheated a lot

Returned that after 3 weeks

[vale yarrow]

ryzen 3 3300x or intel core i5 10400f

open to other suggestions as well

[elfin warren]

10400f hands down

spanks the 3600 even

[devout moth]

MysticWolf#6888 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

MysticWolf#6888 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[vale yarrow]

Any budget motherboards you would suggest with it? Thinking about 100 usd, maybe 130

[wheat parrot]

i have a 5600x but 3200mhz ram

is that bad

[vast meadow]

Msi pro b560

[vast meadow]

It's not optimal anyway, if you wanted to you could probs just overclock your ram to 3600

[wheat parrot]

wdym not optimal

[vast meadow]

It's leaving performance on the table basically

[wheat parrot]

how bad is the bottle neck cant be that much

[vast meadow]

Ehhh idk if there's a reputable benchmark i can show you but like everything it's gonna depend on the game/task

[wheat parrot]

pretty much i used to have 3600 mhz

but it was cl 19

and it wasnt RGB and we all know RGB= performance

so i bought a new kit cl16 3200mhz RGb ram

and i cinebenched with both but i didnt lose performance

[celest anchor]

Do you downgraded damn

[wheat halo]

3200 cl 16 is better

[celest anchor]

No.

[mental jungle]

Anyone know of a eatx apu?

[wheat halo]

Yes it is better theb 3600 cl 19

[celest anchor]

It isn't

[wheat halo]

It is

[celest anchor]

How is slower memory better

[vast meadow]

3200cl16 = 3600cl18 m/t wise but 3600 cl19 is slower than the other 2

[celest anchor]

What

no

CAS latency paints about 2% of the total picture.

what is m/t

never seen 'm/t' before for anything ram related

[wheat halo]

I think he meant memory timing

[celest anchor]

don't understand

[wheat halo]

And cas latency have same effect on the speed like the bandwidth

[celest anchor]

cas latency is an independent variable and bandwidth is dependant

you can't change bandwidth on it's own

and cas latency is extremely overrated, it's affect is blown out of proportion

[wheat halo]

Thats not true

[celest anchor]

Yes it is.

1% more fps

[vast meadow]

Sorry mt/s

[celest anchor]

in terms of mt/s, 3600 is 400mt/s faster

3600 and 3200 are the mt/s

[vast meadow]

At the same latency yeah

[celest anchor]

3200cl16 and 3600cl18 are the same cas latency

both 10ns

[vast meadow]

Yeah but they said 3600cl19

Not 18

[celest anchor]

So? still better

[vast meadow]

No

[celest anchor]

cas latency isn't very important

As I just showed

[vast meadow]

The latency is higher

[celest anchor]

The cas latency is higher

That doesn't mean the total latency is higher

[vast meadow]

I just did the math for you

[vast meadow]

Total latency for 3600cl19

[celest anchor]

8700K

[celest anchor]

That isn't the total latency 🤦‍♂️

[vast meadow]

3200cl16 latency

[celest anchor]

that isn't the total latency, that is just cas latency

[vast meadow]

That's the response time in ns

[celest anchor]

No it isn't

That is not what that is

That is the cas latency

It is the read command to first data latency

Or the time it takes to select a column to have the first data output

Useless on it's own

It isn't the response time or the memory latency by any means

It is only a part of that

Sure it's a part of the latency, but on it's own it is completely useless

[hollow thorn]

Pcpp first word latency is a lie

[vast meadow]

It's in the ddr4 quide tho ;-;

[hollow thorn]

Here's what alatron wrote on pcpp for a better explanation
https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/364651-dram-first-word-latency

Whose guide...

[vast meadow]

The ddr4 oc guide in #overclocking pins

[hollow thorn]

From that guide
"To calculate the actual time in nanoseconds (ns) of a given timing:"

[vast meadow]

Ahh

[hollow thorn]

So cas latency might be 10ns

And then tRCD maybe another 10ns

And then tRP maybe another 10ns

[vast meadow]

I read it wrong, as for a given module or something

Woops

[hollow thorn]

Anyways go read what alatron wrote on pcpp, it's good.

[vale yarrow]

should i save money on the i3 10100 or go up to the i5 10400f? wont be doing much video and photo editing, mostly gaming and school work, but i might get into photo editing in the near future

[vast meadow]

Yeah i did, it makes more sense now lol

[hollow thorn]

I'd go 10400f if possible

[vast meadow]

Ehh do you have a gpu? If not don't get an f processor

Also what country do you live and what budget?

[vale yarrow]

i would be getting a gpu dw

its only a $30 difference

[vast meadow]

Then 10400f

[vale yarrow]

i can afford the difference

im just wondering if the performance difference is really worth it

[vast meadow]

30$ usually it's a bit more than that recently

Prices for 10400f have been weird

[vast meadow]

100%

[vale yarrow]

i found the 10100 for 159.99, and the 10400f for 189.99

cad

[vale yarrow]

alright, then ill prob go 10400f

[hollow thorn]

We're going to be getting to a point where things utilize more and more logical cores

[vast meadow]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/vrhmP6/intel-core-i5-10400f-29-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8070110400f 173$

Even better deal

[hollow thorn]

And also, you don't really want to be far behind console hardware, when consoles have 8 cores now

[vale yarrow]

yeah but its on vuugo

and i dont trust vuugo one bit

i also saw it on shoprbc

but its out of stock

i know somewhere where its in stock and i can just go there

wont have to pay for shipping or anything

[vast meadow]

Shorbpc says in stock

[hollow thorn]

Microcenter if possible

MC is always great price

[vast meadow]

CAD

[hollow thorn]

Ah

[vast meadow]

No mc

[hollow thorn]

Sad

[vale yarrow]

im in canada lmao

i only got CC

[vast meadow]

Looks like in stock

[vale yarrow]

maybe

but id rather pay like $5 extra to go somewhere where i can buy it in person

and not have to travel 5 hours to get it

[vast meadow]

Fair

It's more like extra 15 but ya

[hollow thorn]

This is good info
https://youtu.be/akxYv2xXSkY

[naive pendant]

does the 11400 and the 10400 have a big difference?

[hardy moon]

Yes, I think it’s pretty significant

[naive pendant]

did intel make the 11400 overclockable or is it still not able to do so?

[hardy moon]

nope any intel sku without a k at the end isnt overclockable

[naive pendant]

also yk how the 11400 has a core clock speed of 2.6ghz, is that slow or am I just acting dumb?

[hollow thorn]

base clock means basically nothing for normal usage

it'll always boost when it can

[naive pendant]

ohh

ok thank

[vast meadow]

11400 good bit better

[glass plover]

any reason to upgrade from a R7 3700x?

[elfin warren]

5800x offers 20% performance single and multi core, depends if that 20% is worth $450 to you or not

Or $380 if a 5800x goes on sale at MC

[vast meadow]

I'd wait til next gen unless you need the absolute best performance

[glass plover]

the next gen is coming out soon isn't it?

[elfin warren]

End of 2021 or 2022

Might be a while yet

[vast meadow]

I mean if you were getting a 5900x i would understand but don't think the sidegrade is worth

Well not really a side grade but at least 12 cores with 5900x

[glass plover]

I'm probably gonna stay in the 3700x tier cause it seems like it's the best value, like the 5800x is almost a good value

[fresh wren]

Yo how about that 3d vertical cache tho

[hollow thorn]

3d v cache isn't in use yet

who knows

[fresh wren]

I know but still

Mild hype

[grave jewel]

What is the best bang for the buck motherboard pair for a 10400f

[hollow thorn]

B560m-a atm

[grave jewel]

Thanks

[grave jewel]

Sorry for milking these chats, but anyone got any bang for the buck 3000mhz memory ddr4

2x8gb

[cyan raft]

lmao UBM is a complete joke, like it seriously puts that the 11500 is faster than a 5950x

[glass plover]

Is there ever really a reason to update your motherboard?

[cyan raft]

Not really

Unless you need to because of a cpu upgrade

[naive pendant]

Putting a cpu on a board while it’s already in a case is completely fine correct?

Or will it up my chance for pending a pin by 1000%

[elfin epoch]

I have a Ryzen 7 5800x and I’m upgrading to a Ryzen 9 5900x and figured I should upgrade the mobo with it (using b550 currently). Should I go with the Crosshair VIII Dark Hero or should I go for a dual cpu mobo?

Or is that like super overkill?

[elfin warren]

Really no need to change motherboard tbh

[smoky widget]

agreed with @elfin warren Crosshair is upper Mobo. I don't think you need that high end mobo

[elfin warren]

Ryzen cpu also cant be run in a dual board. It wont work.

[elfin epoch]

The main reason for picking crosshair would be for the 2 m.2 slots and the back io

[elfin epoch]

Really? That’s too bad. I’ve seen some really fun dual cpu setups

[elfin warren]

Probably intel hedt or xeon.

[elfin epoch]

Yea it was Intel

But I don’t really side with them

[limber dragon]

look for the rear io, only 2 m.2 is kinda bad

[elfin epoch]

Better than the b550. The io is really good too with 12 USB ports and type c. I use a lot of peripherals and type c is always useful

I’d say onboard wifi/Bluetooth is useful too but I already have a top of the line wifi card

The only issue is the price being a little high

[median spindle]

whats some good ddr4 ram sticks?

[elfin epoch]

You got a budget?

If you have a hefty budget, I recommend crucial ballistix 3600mhz 16gb x 2

Crucial Ballistix RGB 3600 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit 32GB (16GBx2) CL16 BL2K16G36C16U4BL (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083VN3CP1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_ZVNQK6MQYN0KG25QJP0Y?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[median spindle]

no im just open to suggestions rn

thanks for the help tho

[elfin epoch]

Any ram that’s 3200mhz+ will do tho

[median spindle]

https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-Force-Vulcan-3000MHz-Desktop/dp/B07T637L7T/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=F6IIR7NBJ5P3&dchild=1&keywords=ddr4%2Bram&qid=1623985785&sprefix=ddr4%2B%2Caps%2C198&sr=8-1-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyVllSVzRMWFJEQVpZJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODU3MDk0MlNKT0VIWkZNQk02TSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMDYxNzU1M1lWQkQyRTk5Rkw2JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

like this?

[smoky widget]

timings are Timing 16-18-18-38 for the crucial and Tgroup

[elfin epoch]

I personally go higher with 64gb of ram but 16gb is definitely enough for your average workload

As long as you don’t go with the red 🤢

[median spindle]

why?

[elfin epoch]

If your motherboard, fans, and cpu don’t have any red accents, it’s really jarring

Looks terrible, especially if it’s glossy

[median spindle]

i see

ok thanks for the help

[elfin epoch]

Yea no problem

[hardy moon]

This is the weirdest conversation I’ve seen

[elfin epoch]

What’s weird about it

He wanted ram

[plain lance]

is 16gb of ram at 3200 mhz good enough or go to 32gb

[vernal cosmos]

What CPU

16GB is 100% more than enogh for anything other than editing

that too in higher res

and large workflows

[plain lance]

well not built completely but ryzen 7 3700x

[vernal cosmos]

Why 3700x

have you got the cpu?

[plain lance]

no a different cpu recommend im been with intel for the longest and need a upgrade

[vernal cosmos]

What do you need the PC for?

[elfin epoch]

I'm glad you're thinking of switching to ryzen

[vernal cosmos]

gamin only?

[vernal cosmos]

Intel better at some price points still

[elfin epoch]

True, and the onboard graphics is nice considering the market

But if you got some money to spare, Ryzen for sure

[plain lance]

I’ll still go with intel just seem ryzen really improving but mainly for gaming I’m not editing

[elfin epoch]

What cpu do you have currently?

3200mhz 16gb is more than enough

[vernal cosmos]

I would go 5600x over the 3700x

and 3600CL16 ram

ryzen loves higher speed ram

up to 3800mhz

[plain lance]

It’s old i5 4570

[elfin epoch]

I would actually say save some money, switch to ryzen but go for the ryzen 5 instead. It's more than enough cores for your gaming needs

Just my opinion

[vernal cosmos]

after 3800mhz the flck can run in 1:2 mode which is bad

[elfin epoch]

If you are switching, 3600mhz 16gb, if not 3200-3600mhz is fine

[plain lance]

Im not gonna build it currently market to expensive gonna wait but im on DDR3 so I have to switch

[vernal cosmos]

Mate please stop copying the stuff I say and making it look like you know what ur saying yeah?

[vernal cosmos]

I would wait a few months more then

[elfin epoch]

I'm not copying? I said myself 3200mhz because he said he was staying intel?

[vernal cosmos]

am5 socket and ddr5 coming end of this year beginning of next year

[elfin epoch]

then I recapped saying what he needed if he was switching

[vernal cosmos]

He wanted to switch and his cpu doesnt do ddr4

also 3200mhz is doable only on a few chipsets on intel

[elfin epoch]

"I’ll still go with intel"

[vernal cosmos]

b560 and and all z series boards can do it

[elfin epoch]

i5 4570 3200mhz is definitely doable

[vernal cosmos]

cpu only matters little for intel

[eternal turtle]

wat

lol

[plain lance]

You can’t get that on ddr3

[eternal turtle]

oh you can

just not on a non k

[elfin epoch]

Sorry its 1:50 am im mixing a little things up

[vernal cosmos]

Hes a clown copying stuff I say to try and sound smart

[stiff kraken]

3200 MT/s ddr3 is doable but pretty much a meme speed

[eternal turtle]

and not on a 4570

[vernal cosmos]

Look cpu

[eternal turtle]

maybe on a 4570km

[limber dragon]

you dont need a k, just a z mobo

[elfin epoch]

im not even gonna deal with you. I recapped what I said and what you said dude.

[stiff kraken]

sandy bridge is better for pushing high ram freq than haswell isn't it

[vernal cosmos]

Amateur

[hearty gust]

that not oc

[stiff kraken]

3600 MT/s ddr3 is probably not going to happen though

[plain lance]

So am5 possibly coming out later this year ?

[eternal turtle]

most likely next year

[stiff kraken]

doubt it

[eternal turtle]

q2 next year

[stiff kraken]

they are probably gonna do zen 3 refresh with the stacked cache this year

[vernal cosmos]

q4 this year or q1 next year imo

more likely next year

[stiff kraken]

if you are going to wait a year for upgrade

upgrade your i5-4570 to a haswell xeon for cheap first

so you can at least get 8 threads while you wait

I sold an i5-4670 for $45 and dropped a $65 e3-1241v3 into the same z87 motherboard

[plain lance]

I got a z97 pro4

[stiff kraken]

e3-1241v3 slightly better than i7-4770 but the xeons sell for cheaper cause less people know about them compared to "i7"

z87 and z97 are basically the same thing

support same cpus

doesn't matter

[plain lance]

My gpu is only a rx 560 series so idk if I’ll benefit from just upgrading a cpu

[vernal cosmos]

You will

[stiff kraken]

hm

i'd just get the xeon

like it only cost me $20 to upgrade from i5-4570 to xeon e3-1241v3

you will notice a bit smoother gameplay

but going up more will be bottlenecked by gpu

so you can wait until gpu market stabilizes plus new stuff and get a bigger upgrade all at once

[vernal cosmos]

SIPPY go test ur new ryzen 7 imfused with my pc part luck

[eternal turtle]

sheeeesh @stiff kraken @vernal cosmos

[stiff kraken]

i don't want to build the defective mobo back into the case

i want to wait for new one

i didn't even put thermal paste

[eternal turtle]

wut you think of oc

[stiff kraken]

don't want to run stress test with no thermal paste

[stiff kraken]

i think get destroyed nerd

[vernal cosmos]

what cpu u got again?

[eternal turtle]

1230 v2

[vernal cosmos]

how bot dem OCs

[vernal cosmos]

Absolutely cracked

thats like 2/4 the base

[eternal turtle]

you could say

1/2

[vast meadow]

Looks like 5600g is gonna be a flop cpu wise with 3600 like performance

[dense frost]

sauce?

[vast meadow]

Source?

https://youtu.be/KycNI1FxIPc

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/where-is-the-sauce-funny-gif-18113029

[dense frost]

Welcome to the internet my dude 😆

[vast meadow]

X)

[glass plover]

is a 6700k gonna bottleneck a 3070ti?

[vast meadow]

You already have a 6700k?

Also depends on resolution

But it's not optimal anyway

[celest anchor]

depends on what it is for

[glass plover]

Yeah my friend has a I7-6700k will probably play at 4k or 1440p

[cursive epoch]

That's doable

Not optimal but hey, not bad

[ionic hamlet]

Still, the 5600g will at least serve as an option for iGPU builds until this GPU shortage ends.

[cursive epoch]

Well yes, but I like 11500 more

Still cheaper

5600G is not out yet, and its msrp is 250

[elfin warren]

Yeah it won't be here until August 5th except in prebuilts

[vast meadow]

Ddr2 laptop ram

[vernal cosmos]

Ddr1 desktop and ddr2 desktop ram

get on my level

[vast meadow]

:(

Can't get this stupid Samsung laptop open

The screwsssss

[vernal cosmos]

Leave the laptop play csgo with me instead

[vast meadow]

Tryna wipe the hdd cuz we don't have charger and mom paranoid about anything sensitive on their

[vernal cosmos]

no but fr which laptop is it?

model wise

[vast meadow]

Ehh idk lemme send a pic

Ohh n110 i think

[vernal cosmos]

one sec

send a pic of the bottom

[vast meadow]

Those 4 will not come out lol

[vernal cosmos]

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Samsung+NP-NC10-KA02US+Hard+Drive+Replacement/74549

[vast meadow]

The problem is the screws are on strike r something lol they aint moving

[vernal cosmos]

oof

[vast meadow]

How strong of a magnet does it have to be to wipe that hard drive from the outside do you think?

Might just try hammer a screwdriver right into the hdd lol

Through the casing at this stage

[noble rampart]

wow microcenter has the i9 10850k for 320

that is better value than a 3600 I think

[elfin warren]

Far better

Even the 11400 is a better value

[vast meadow]

The 3600 hadn't been good value since 10400 came out pretty much

[noble rampart]

Ik but 10 cores for close to 300

it is microcenter tho

supposedly they sell their cpu's on a loss

to get you in the store

[hollow thorn]

Wouldn't make too much sense, I'd assume they just cut margins lower than other stores

[noble rampart]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/4rp8lc/why_is_microcenter_so_cheap/

[vast meadow]

Literally all companies buy stock in bulk.......

[noble rampart]

Ik

read down

[vast meadow]

Yeye but i mean how reliable is that guy on Reddit lol

[hollow thorn]

it's one guy

[elfin warren]

Except when they scalp AMD cpu's

and INtel CPU's

XD

[vast meadow]

Lol

[hollow thorn]

and 1k unit pricing for bulk is yea

[noble rampart]

yea

lol

[noble rampart]

true

but I've heard much the same from alot of people

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/lies-youreallythinksomeonewouldodthat-arthur-internet-gif-7299300

[naive pendant]

What motherboard should i get for intel
budget if possible less than 100, could use wifi too
thx

[vast meadow]

What's total system budget and what cpu? And 100$ boards don't really come with wifi

[naive pendant]

Around 1.2k

i5-11400f

Well i guess it doesnt need wifi but it would be nice to have it

[vast meadow]

Don't get 11400f it's more than the 11400 non f usually

[vast meadow]

For 1.2k budget you should well be able to spend more than 100 on a mobo

[naive pendant]

doesnt f come with igpu though

[vast meadow]

You live in the us?

F means no igpu

[naive pendant]

Yeah, so if its just 11400 then it would come with igpu...

Yes usd

[vast meadow]

Okay 1 sec

You have any parts already?

[naive pendant]

Nope

The mobo could go to 120 i guess

its the last thing in my build and im at like 1k rn

[vast meadow]

I'm putting together a list for you

[naive pendant]

Oh

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jWHZbh

This is what i have so far

[vast meadow]

Okay so

What's budget without peripherals

Also ssd you have is meh

Ram is meh

11400f is being scalped rn

Psu is meh

You don't even see the rgb in it

Also you're way over paying for a 10080p 60hz monitor

[vast meadow]

Rip

Can you return?

[naive pendant]

Got it as a gift a year ago

[quartz zinc]

does anyone know any rgb software i can use for my aorus motherboard

rgb fusion sucks

[naive pendant]

If i had the choice i would have bought something better (talking about my monitor)

[wheat halo]

I think signal rgb@quartz zinc

[quartz zinc]

alr

could i use corsair icue or smthn?

[wheat halo]

For which devices

[quartz zinc]

my fans

[wheat halo]

If they are corsair ones yes

[quartz zinc]

theyre not corsair branded

[wheat halo]

Oh

No

[quartz zinc]

but they are argb

[wheat halo]

Which brand are they

[vast meadow]

Ahh fair

@naive pendant https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bCGYDc

[naive pendant]

Yeah i would have much rather bought one myself

Oh thanks

[vast meadow]

Np

[naive pendant]

Wow you really came within $2

nice job

the 3060 ti is sold for 400 at my local best buy

which is why it was marked down

[wheat halo]

You can always use the 60hz monitor as 2nd one when you get the money for a new one if you want 144hz

[naive pendant]

on the pcpp

[vast meadow]

No offense but do you live under a rock

Lol

[wheat halo]

3060ti starts at 500

But its 650 most of the times

Or more

[vast meadow]

Graphics cards msrp have been a myth for about the last 6 months anyway

[naive pendant]

So they just mark it up?

[vast meadow]

Kinda

But they also rare af

[naive pendant]

If i walked into best buy would the price be different then the online one

(assuming there happens to be one)

[vast meadow]

Best buy don't sell them in stoee

[naive pendant]

Oh

[vast meadow]

Store

They only do drops online

[naive pendant]

Maybe i am living under a rock

[vast meadow]

Lol

[naive pendant]

Ok... so uhhh

[vast meadow]

And possibly blind XD

[naive pendant]

[vast meadow]

Try best buy drops and newegg shuffle

[naive pendant]

Alright'

thanks for the build list btw

[vast meadow]

Np

You might have to go with a 3060 btw

Or if you up budget 3060 ti/3070

[quartz zinc]

i found a rog strix b365-f for $85

should i cop?

[vast meadow]

Nah

Old chipset

[glass plover]

I wish best buy sold in stores tho

[eager lance]

Anyone ever have to send a cpu to noatum logistics ?

[devout moth]

NFYL.Zach#3301 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

NFYL.Zach#3301 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[vague ore]

Hey guys... I'm after a SuperMicro EPYC 3251 SoC board with passive CPU cooler. The SM part number I need is M11SDV-8C-LN4F. There's a few boards listed on Newegg, however the photos don't match up to the descriptions.

There's these options:

1. SUPERMICRO MBD-M11SDV-8C+-LN4F-O Mini ITX Server Motherboard

2. Supermicro M11SDV-8C-LN4F AMD EPYC 3251 8-Core Embedded Mini ITX Motherboard w/ Quad GbE LAN, IPMI

3. SUPERMICRO MBD-M11SDV-8C+-LN4F-O Mini ITX Server Motherboard

4. [SUPERMICRO MBD-M11SDV-8C-LN4F AMD EPYC 3251 SoC 8 Core / 16 Thread Mini ITX Server Motherboard - Out of stock]https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en/supermicro-mbd-m11sdv-8c-ln4f-single-amd-epyc-3251-soc-processor/p/296-0002-003R3?Item=296-0002-003R3&Tpk=296-0002-003R3)

Based on the descriptions, I need 2 or 4, however based on the pictures I need either 2 or 3. The "-O" boards are also 20% cheaper. Any advice?

Thanks in advance.

[tawdry ember]

hey y'all,
I'm thinking about throwing a 5000 series Ryzen CPU into my system. The only thing is, the mobo is a Gigabyte b450. Has anybody here ever updated a mobo bios before? I could use some advice lol. Feel free to pm me with any info you think could be helpful. Thanks a bunch!

[vast meadow]

Yah it's fairly easy

You will need a Ryzen 3000 or lower cpu tho

[tawdry ember]

yah I've got a 2600 rn

[vast meadow]

Boards don't come with coolers btw

[vast meadow]

It's fairly easy then what exact motherboard and what version is your bios rn?

[tawdry ember]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h-v2/p/N82E16813145252?Description=GIGABYTE B450M DS3H AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard&cm_re=GIGABYTE_B450M DS3H AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard-_-13-145-252-_-Product&quicklink=true

that's the mobo

i don't know what bios it runs, like I said im new to that area lol

[vast meadow]

Okay what cpu were you looking to run on that?

[tawdry ember]

5600X

[vast meadow]

I wouldn't recommend a ryzen 9 on that board btw

Ahh fine

[vast meadow]

Okay so turn off your pc, turn it on and click the del button as fast as possible till you get into bios

[tawdry ember]

neither would I lol

[vast meadow]

I actually have the exact same board so this should be fairly easy

[tawdry ember]

great!

what should I do after I get into bios

[vast meadow]

Check the bios version

Should be on the main page

[tawdry ember]

ahh ok

[vast meadow]

Should be like F followed by a number i think

[tawdry ember]

F50

[tawdry ember]

Found it

[vast meadow]

When did you get the board btw?

Okay

[tawdry ember]

October 2020

[vast meadow]

Ahh okay

[tawdry ember]

If bios date matters it's from November 2019

[vast meadow]

Okay thanks 1 sec

Just to confirm its gigabyte b450m ds3h v2?

[tawdry ember]

Ya

[vast meadow]

Cuz the v2 is slightly different i think

Aight that's fine

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450M-DS3H-V2-rev-10/support#support-dl

Head here

Then go to the bios section and download the latest one

[tawdry ember]

Ok

I'm guessing onto the pc I'm upgrading?

[vast meadow]

Well either or

Cuz you need to put it onto a usb

[tawdry ember]

gotcha

[vast meadow]

Wait you said your bios version was f50?

[tawdry ember]

da

yes

[vast meadow]

There's no f50 there? You might have gotten the non v2 version

@vernal cosmos may i borrow your opinion

[tawdry ember]

according to newegg I got the v2

[vast meadow]

F50 doesn't show up at all on the v2 page

What was the bios date again?

[tawdry ember]

nov 2019

AHA

its not a v2

[vast meadow]

27th nov?

[tawdry ember]

yup

but the board itself isnt a v2

[vernal cosmos]

yes

whats up

[vast meadow]

You got bait and switched

[tawdry ember]

indeed lol

[vast meadow]

Think we have problem solved but they were supposed to have b450m ds3h v2

[vernal cosmos]

y u need my opinion

Oh ok

[vast meadow]

But they had bios version f50

But v2 has no f50 bios

So i was gonna ask you think if it's v1 or if it's not showing up for some reason

Thanks tho

[vernal cosmos]

Pato

[vast meadow]

Yes

[vernal cosmos]

cpuz says it all

just ask him to send that

[vast meadow]

I thought it only said chipset 🤦

[vernal cosmos]

Its fine

[vast meadow]

@tawdry ember okay just gonna double check, can you download cpu z and we will check just to be sure

[tawdry ember]

hey y'all are doing better than I am lol

k will do

I think I have it downloaded already

I DO YEY

[vast meadow]

Okay open up the mainboard tab

[tawdry ember]

done

[vast meadow]

And then send a screenshot

[tawdry ember]

k

yes i used my phone, no im not apologizing lol

[vernal cosmos]

its the V1

[vast meadow]

It's fine lol

[vernal cosmos]

doesnt matter

[vast meadow]

Yup they got bait and switched lol

[vernal cosmos]

yessir

[vast meadow]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450M-DS3H-rev-1x/support#support-dl

[tawdry ember]

ima sue newegg now lol

[vast meadow]

Go here

[tawdry ember]

k

there

[vast meadow]

Download f60

Cuz i think f61c is beta

[tawdry ember]

ok done

[vast meadow]

Acc wait f61c is fine i think

If it doesn't say beta beside it get f61

Then take out of folder an put onto a USB

[tawdry ember]

doesnt say beta so ima dewit

[vast meadow]

Kewl I'm just checking cuz on mobile

[tawdry ember]

and from here I'll just write down the steps cuz I don't have a usb available atm

[vast meadow]

Copy the bios file over to usb

Turn off pc

Enter bios by mashing the del key again

Press f1 to open the help menu

Then press whichever one is for easy update

[vernal cosmos]

TBF im not seeing any difference between v1 and v2

[vast meadow]

Or if you see ez update in the main menu on the left most tab, that works too

[vast meadow]

I just don't wanna mess with bios's

[tawdry ember]

k

[vernal cosmos]

I compared the entire specs page

and its the same

[vernal cosmos]

Not for bios

he didnt get cheated outta a better board is all

[vast meadow]

That should be about it then just leave it finish and then re enter bios and enable xmp again

[tawdry ember]

heck if anything I got a more expensive board for less

[tawdry ember]

ok

[vast meadow]

Ohh yeah basically the same thing afaik

[tawdry ember]

sounds like a plan, thank you and thanks to @vernal cosmos

[vernal cosmos]

YW!

[vast meadow]

Np :)

[fresh wren]

Would i notice much of a difference between CL15 and CL18 memory at 3800MHz? Probably not, right?

[vast meadow]

I don't know of much cl15 3800mhz but yah probs

Cl16 is more popular at those speeds tho

[limber dragon]

you probably would, in that rcd and rp and most likely much much worse

[fresh wren]

My current kit is 4000MHz at CL15 underclocked to 3800, tempted to downgrade to 3800MHz at 16 or 18. Mostly because I don't wanna spend time messing with my FCLK to get back to 4000 and also kinda want RGB to better fit the look of my build.

[limber dragon]

the whole point of getting bdie is to tune the sub timings

[fresh wren]

Okay but realistically how much would a marginal downgrade like that impact performance in productivity and gaming?

3800 is still pretty high end

[vast meadow]

Your fclk won't get to 2000 most likely

[limber dragon]

from just tuned reve to tuned bdie, on a 3900xt, it was ~10% in shadow of the tomb raider

180 vs 200 fps

[fresh wren]

I know that, mine is only stable up to 1900 which is why I'm looking to swap kits

[limber dragon]

why not just run 3800c14?

aka the generic zen2/3+bdie

[vast meadow]

Just set to 3800cl16 or cl14 then

[fresh wren]

Legit have no idea what you just said. My knowledge of memory is pretty low

[fresh wren]

It's currently 3800 CL16, I was just asking what the effect of switching to a different kit with a slightly higher CAS latency would be, because I'd be switching mostly because of aesthetics and partly because of my FCLK limiting my frequency.

[vast meadow]

Why would you, you would be buying another kit and getting worse perf

[fresh wren]

More capacity, would probably slap the other kit into a different rig.

[vast meadow]

What's your current kit

[fresh wren]

4x8GB but I'm looking at 4x16GB for the amount of rendering I'll be doing plus the programs I'll have open. Premiere Pro took up a huge chunk of my 32GB when I tried doing something in 4k for the first time and that was only a 2 minute video

[vast meadow]

Ahh i see

[fresh wren]

Yeah, not just gaming. I'm gonna be going to school for 3D animation and I want at least somewhat of a workstation at home

[vast meadow]

I see

[grizzled bloom]

The cl15 kit would run at 16 on ryzen anyway, and if it's b-die then it should be easy to bump voltage up and tighten all the timings.
The larger the capacity of the memory sticks the harder the memory controller will have to work, sometimes it won't even work at xmp if you're unlucky.

Just some things to be aware of

[echo sage]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907

Would this be a good set of ram for my Ryzen 7 3700x, along with my Prime B550M-A AC

[elfin warren]

Ya, I'm running that set right now

With that very processor

[echo sage]

I didn't realize until a little while ago, that certain RAM are more compatible than others

[elfin warren]

Don't pay attention to the INtel vs AMD marketing, it's all hogwash

[echo sage]

I'll make sure to look clear of that then, thanks for the help (:

[trim cairn]

anyone have any suggestions for 32gb kist (2x16) thats at least 3600 mhz?

[limber dragon]

my go to is crucial ballistix 3600cl16

[celest anchor]

Where are you, will you overclock, what cpu and board, and what would it be for?

do you want rgb or stuff like that

[trim cairn]

thats what i was planning lmao

[trim cairn]

0 OC, ROG B550-f, 5900x

and for gaming/streaming, 4k editing

[celest anchor]

where are you, do you care about aesthetics?

[trim cairn]

in which i will be buyinng the other 32gb eventually

rgb isnt a priority but if i can get it ig it adds some color

[celest anchor]

where are you

[trim cairn]

maine, would use newgg/amazon

[celest anchor]

uuh what country?

[trim cairn]

US

[celest anchor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PJ6qqs/team-t-force-vulcan-z-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tlzgd432g3600hc18jdc01 you'd be best off getting something like this

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GR6qqs/oloy-warhawk-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl16-memory-nd4u1636161dcwdx or if you want rgb

2nd kit has the primaries 2 lower across the board which is nice

The crucial kits just don't have the value compared to those

[hollow thorn]

16-20-20-40 is a bit weird, but ye

Ballistix kit has it's value in the oc

[lavish tree]

has anyone gotten you newegg shuffle email I haven't

[hollow thorn]

Prob lost then

[trim cairn]

what are your thoughts? im just not sure.i dont know too much about ram

or how to type lmao

[hollow thorn]

Absolutely zero oc, and not caring about looks and such, the two kits alatron linked may make sense

Otherwise, ballistix has a definite edge in oc because reve

Slightly tighter primaries even at xmp, but that's not worth much performance in general

[trim cairn]

wym alatron?

[hollow thorn]

The guy

[trim cairn]

oh yeah thats his name

[hollow thorn]

My keyboard is kinda half disassembled so I'll trust them with looking at pcpp

[trim cairn]

i need sleep lmao

ouch

[hollow thorn]

It was a nice session of lubing and modding stabs

Still putting it back together

[trim cairn]

OOO YAY MY CPU AND MOBO MIGHT BE HERE TOMORROW

[hollow thorn]

Nice

[lavish tree]

fun what did you get?

[trim cairn]

ROG STRIX B550-f and a 5900x :)

[lavish tree]

fancy

[trim cairn]

and i didnt pay a massive amount for the 5900x

[lavish tree]

how?

[trim cairn]

*with the moderate shortage

i payed like 600 which imo is decent deal

50 USD above MSRP

[lavish tree]

what gpu do you want/have

[trim cairn]

looking for a TUF 3080, but rlly want any 3080 other than like 20 lmao

out of 55

[lavish tree]

does witch one make much of a difference?

[cyan raft]

Attempt #2 at installing a 5900x

First one I bought was DOA

[trim cairn]

im looking for one with good temps rlly

i dont like hot hardware

[cyan raft]

I like hardware that I can make breakfast on

Jk

GPU fried Eggs

[trim cairn]

my cpu hits 55 and im a lil concerened

[cyan raft]

Good stuff lol

[trim cairn]

my pc dont usually get hot

[cyan raft]

My gpu barely hits 60 on 100% usage

6800xt

[lavish tree]

why that seems unnecessary

[trim cairn]

i just dont like high temps

[lavish tree]

isn't 55 not high

[trim cairn]

i was raised in a cold area and still live in said area

correct

i like cold over hot

[lavish tree]

do you watercool then?

[cyan raft]

You really can’t get better than 55 Celsius with a normal loop

[trim cairn]

nope, stock wraith cooler rn

lmao

[cyan raft]

You’d need liquid nitrogen/helium I think

[lavish tree]

yeah for sure

[cyan raft]

55 degrees with a stock wraith cooler?!

Jeez my 3700x was hitting 70 with the wraith prism

[trim cairn]

ypu its a 3200g lmao

[cyan raft]

What crack is your cooler on?

[trim cairn]

not using igpu

[cyan raft]

Ahh ok

Wait I mixed up you and redpickle

[trim cairn]

i would have to be in space to be that cold witha 3900x

[cyan raft]

I thought you had a 5600x

[trim cairn]

5900x*

i rlly need to sleep

whatever

[cyan raft]

Nah look at red pickle’s name

I also need some sleep lol

[trim cairn]

im currently learning what wouldve happened if the founding fathers were stoners

[cyan raft]

Oh lord

[trim cairn]

fr

o also thoughts on the liquid freezer II 360mm?

[devout moth]

Yambo#9326 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Yambo#9326 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[cyan raft]

Easily one of the best AIOs

It’s what I’m currently using and my 3700x never reached above 62 Celsius with it

[trim cairn]

wow

[naive pendant]

Do I need to do something special for an asus prime z490a to be able to connect to wifi? No networks are showing up when setting up windows

Nvm fixed it

[naive pendant]

Did you oc?

[elfin warren]

Nah, that's stock. If you load it that's normal

[naive pendant]

Ohh

I have an r5 2600 i oc to 3600 and its rlly hot

[elfin warren]

Stock cooler is OK but the 3700x really needs more

[naive pendant]

Like 30c idle

[naive pendant]

Agreed

[elfin warren]

Idle temps don't matter

Only load temps

[naive pendant]

Oh

[elfin warren]

Ya, like Cinebench temps, OCCT CPu test, prime 95, etc

[halcyon relic]

My 3700x is hitting around 60 under load, doesnt seem too bad

[elfin warren]

what load

[halcyon relic]

was using prime95, 100%

[elfin warren]

nice

[vernal cosmos]

Smallest ffts or small ffts

[halcyon relic]

What’s that

[vernal cosmos]

the 2 prime95 tests

which one did you run?

@halcyon relic

[halcyon relic]

Lemme check

I was running blend, which is better to use?

[vernal cosmos]

small is for stability

smallest is more everyday load for temps

says nothing else

[hardy moon]

Small ffts is when you want to make sure your computer won’t melt

[vernal cosmos]

also stability

[hardy moon]

Sips says he’s had non stable oc pass small ffts

[vernal cosmos]

Yep but it was unstable to ycruncher

they test 2 differebnt thismh

ycruncher is cache and mem iirc

small ffts is core

[devout moth]

PurgatoryYT#6111 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

PurgatoryYT#6111 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[devout moth]

Bagel#7271 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Bagel#7271 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[trim cairn]

chances of a 5900x while being DOA? i most likely wont be able to get all the the parts in one month

[vast meadow]

Doa?

[vernal cosmos]

dead on arrival

[vernal cosmos]

slim to none

[vast meadow]

Ahhh thank

Pretty slim yeah

[trim cairn]

aight thats good

also do yall think its worth it to try to set up a bot to get a 3080? i feel like its gonna be really hard to get a graphics card either way

[vast meadow]

Nah it would take you ages to code one yourself and if you bought a bot that would just be encouraging scalpers

[trim cairn]

fair

so other than a bent pin, how could a CPU be dead on arrival?

[vast meadow]

Ups physically smashed it with a hammer

[trim cairn]

isnt that what UPS specializes in?

[vast meadow]

Well yess but they'd need to break threw the amazon(etc) packaging then retail packaging then the plastic holding the cpu lol

[trim cairn]

i mean ik the 5900x comes in horrible packaging

ive heard of it being shipped in envelopes

[vast meadow]

Thats probs a wack seller

The retail packaging is quite robust i would not wory anyway

[trim cairn]

yeah

[vast meadow]

The ups thing was kinda a joke

[trim cairn]

wait one min

https://gyazo.com/49e3589cc3fd88551c38932a53942a43 this happened to someone

[halcyon relic]

oh no

thats so sad

[trim cairn]

how do you suggest i get one then? online though

[hollow thorn]

That was amazon very early on

[trim cairn]

ah

[hollow thorn]

Should be all in boxes now

[trim cairn]

mm

[vast meadow]

amd newegg should be fine

[trim cairn]

do you think my mobo will come with it?

[trim cairn]

but doesnt it sell out almost instantly though?

[vast meadow]

🤷

people have enough of them

[trim cairn]

true

[vast meadow]

depends i honestly couldnt tell ya

[cyan raft]

The first one i bought was DOA

Second one i got was fine tho

[trim cairn]

i bought my CPU and mobo at the same time, so i just kinda am not sure

[vast meadow]

its really a case by case thing, its not consistent with sellers at least in ireland

[trim cairn]

ah

[trim cairn]

oh uh any way for me to know when BB restocks?

[vast meadow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[halcyon relic]

i think thursday

9-12 est

[graceful thorn]

I got a question for one of you PC experts. So I bought a second hand PC yesterday. Everything is working great other than the HDD. It isn’t even being detected by the PC. I checked in BIOS and Disk Management. I was hoping that someone could direct me into what route I should take in trying to get it detected. (Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this kind of question)

[grizzled bloom]

Check the power and data cables on both ends are in all the way, and try another port on the motherboard

[ionic hamlet]

If the hard drive is dead, not the end of the world. They're not that expensive or hard to install.

[hidden cobalt]

Is OLOY or TForce ram that much worse that something like a Corsair, GSkill or Crucial?

[modern crystal]

Exit? How can i know what the problem is?

Cycle 3 started

[stiff kraken]

are you overclocking your ram at all

you should exit as soon as you see 1 error

[modern crystal]

No just enable xmp

[stiff kraken]

xmp is overclocking

what is the xmp profile

[modern crystal]

3200

[stiff kraken]

3200 what

[vast meadow]

Corsair ram is down with the other 2 tbh and yeah g skill and crucial usually have way better sets, ballistix 3600 is the best bang for buck for new cpus, if it's an old CPU get the cheapest 3200cl16 kit

[stiff kraken]

id take oloy over corsair any day

[modern crystal]

3200 mhz i think

[stiff kraken]

the

rest

of

the

profile

[vernal cosmos]

So sippy

[hidden cobalt]

I am working with a Ryzen 3600x for a friend's PC.

[vernal cosmos]

Ive been in touch with the guy

[hidden cobalt]

He is not the most tech inclined guy so he likely wont tinker

[modern crystal]

I have to go the bios?

[vernal cosmos]

he RMAed his pc because mem related bsods

those people told him it was the windows install

[stiff kraken]

...just link the kit that you bought

[vernal cosmos]

prebuilt

[vernal cosmos]

ok

[humble acorn]

Do you atleast know the first number in the timings CL 16, 18, 19?

[stiff kraken]

run zentimings if you can't be bothered to go into bios

[vernal cosmos]

Arash what CPU u got?

[hidden cobalt]

What would you consider an old CPU?

[stiff kraken]

5600x it says

[vernal cosmos]

yep im blind

[vernal cosmos]

huh?

[humble acorn]

What MB?

[stiff kraken]

inb4 someone buys 3200c16 ddr4 for pentium 4

[hidden cobalt]

sorry wrong reply oooops

[hidden cobalt]

What would you consider an old CPU?

[modern crystal]

Two of them

[stiff kraken]

kingmax

ive never heard a more chinese brand name in my life

[vernal cosmos]

anything made more than 4 years ago

[humble acorn]

Anything before ryzen for AMD, anything older than 7th gen intel

[stiff kraken]

why 7th gen

[humble acorn]

Cause I like 7th gen lol

[stiff kraken]

6th and 7th gen intel are basically the same thing

[vast meadow]

I'd say older than 2 gens ago

[vernal cosmos]

some 7th and 9th gen are the same thing

[modern crystal]

X570 gaming x

[modern crystal]

Cl16

[stiff kraken]

disable xmp and run memtest again if you still get errors something is either wrong with windows or defective hardware

[hidden cobalt]

Ok so getting a 3600 kit

[modern crystal]

Ok. Thx

[humble acorn]

For a 3000 or 5000 ryzen, yes 3600 CL16 is optimal

[vernal cosmos]

fresh win10 install this do be

[vernal cosmos]

3800cl14

[modern crystal]

Ops

[stiff kraken]

making good progress on my ram oc

[humble acorn]

That's questionable, not all IF can make it to that in 1-1 mode

[stiff kraken]

finally locking down some primaries

[humble acorn]

Was telling the other guy who asked about 3600

[vernal cosmos]

3800 shouldnt be a problem

[stiff kraken]

no reason to shell out big money for 3800c14 when crucial ballistix 3600c16 can overclock to 3800c14

[modern crystal]

Ok

[vernal cosmos]

after that is where the problem starts

[vernal cosmos]

nb

[humble acorn]

Still some can't make it to 1900 on the IF

[stiff kraken]

heck, my ballistix can do 4000c14 no problem

[vernal cosmos]

trfc looking kinda high

[stiff kraken]

it's auto

[vernal cosmos]

yeah

you can knock off a lot of that in a go tbf

[stiff kraken]

i've only done tcl, trcdwr, trcdrd, trp, trrds, trrdl, and tfaw so far

[vernal cosmos]

procodt might go lower

[stiff kraken]

i spent most of my time so far tuning stuff like vdimm, vsoc, clkdrvstr, procodt, cldo vddp, vddg ccd/iod, rtt settings

nah

procodt is the lowest it'll go

[vernal cosmos]

I see

[humble acorn]

I'm happy leaving my kit at it's XMP of 3600 16-19-19-32

[vernal cosmos]

stilll pretty good

[stiff kraken]

need some higher ohms to get this high of an oc stable

[vernal cosmos]

ehhh

[stiff kraken]

had to push vdimm to 1.52v

[vernal cosmos]

Fair

mine is locked to 36.9

[stiff kraken]

i can boot all the way down to 28.2

but it'll error out even with all auto timings

until 40 ohms

[modern crystal]

Put them to 2666

?

[hidden cobalt]

Ok im confused is there a difference between "TridentZ RGB" and "TridentZ RGB (for AMD)"... There are individual listings on NE for those with very different prices

[stiff kraken]

"for amd" or "for intel" hasnt been a real thing for ram since 2001

[vernal cosmos]

oh btw sippy im judging that light mode