#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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naive pendant
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I save stuff

livid sparrow
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I still have mine kicking around somewhere, not the box though

naive pendant
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@hollow thorn is the 750 the new xe graphics?

hollow thorn
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Yes

naive pendant
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@livid sparrow I will be using the plastic gutted ps1, not the oem box

hollow thorn
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UHD 750 is on 11500, 11600k, 11700k, 11900k

livid sparrow
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Ah, I see. Now I understand

naive pendant
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looks like a 4750g is avaiilable as a standalone

hollow thorn
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price is big oof

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@naive pendant How soon will you be building it?

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If possible, I'd wait to see AMD's APUs launch

split copper
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yea

naive pendant
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@hollow thorn when i can, no rush, its an emu box for the living room to go to the tv. Connecting it to the house network

split copper
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they better come out with athlon 5000G and make it 4c4t bbnohappy

naive pendant
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@hollow thorn do you know of any launch date for the AMD apus?

hollow thorn
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Not sure.

livid sparrow
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They'll be out sometime later this year, they got released to OEMs on the 14th

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I wanna say late summer or in the fall

hollow thorn
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ye

naive pendant
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@livid sparrow any benchmarks?

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cpu names?

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etc

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FYi, you folks have been a great help

livid sparrow
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hollow thorn
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I know 5300g had leaked benchmarks from an engineering sample that got sold in China

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others not too much info

naive pendant
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nice

glacial oxide
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i am building my pc finally (thanks to the friendly usernames i recognize who helped me before) and I am setting up the mobo. I remember there is a reason not to install a second M.2 because you lose the 2nd and 3rd PCIe slots...but what even goes there? Like how would that negatively affect my rig? Thanks in advance!

elfin warren
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It usually disables SATA ports for drives, not PCI-E slots

glacial oxide
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okay

elfin warren
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Some people run 2-3 video cards or other things there

silk ice
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Wireless cards or capture cards also can go in the additional PCIe slots

glacial oxide
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I have a samsung 980 pro and a WD black SN 850 with a B550 aorus pro ac...paired with a 2060 currently and Ryzen 7 5800X

elfin warren
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wowza

silk ice
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Only one of those drives will run at gen 4

elfin warren
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Ye

glacial oxide
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gotcha

elfin warren
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Well

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oh, B550 yeah

silk ice
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Yea

glacial oxide
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so what does that mean in newb terms...one of my drives wont actually go as fast as it should?

silk ice
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Yes

elfin warren
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yes

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Which is why we generally don't recommend PCI-E 4.0 drives

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There's really no benefit to them

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Except in specific use cases like 3D rendering or dealing with massive files

main pulsar
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scrubbing through 4k+ video during editing

elfin warren
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Or that too yeah

glacial oxide
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gotcha. so hypothetically does it make the most sense to return one and get a different drive for the second one?

silk ice
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Yes

elfin warren
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I'd return both TBH and get 2 gen 3 drives

glacial oxide
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all i do is game and i want it to be butter lol...plus movies etc

elfin warren
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Save some major money lol

glacial oxide
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i got one on sale so im happy with the price

elfin warren
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Yeah, just get two Mushkin Pilot E's or something

main pulsar
elfin warren
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$109 each

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$114 now actually

livid sparrow
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Why use Sata when it is a similar price for slower performance? Unless you've already got one or have 2 M.2 drives already

silk ice
glacial oxide
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gotcha. so if i keep one 4.0 as my main for OS and games, the second could just be 3.0 and not lose any sata?

elfin warren
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No, you'll still lose SATA ports

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typically 2 of them

glacial oxide
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and what usually goes in those 2xSATA ports I would lose?

silk ice
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Granted if you're not plugging a bunch of hard drives in losing sata ports shouldn't make much of a difference?

elfin warren
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Drives

glacial oxide
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ahhh

elfin warren
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SATA SSD drives or Hard drives

main pulsar
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no real reason to go with sata anyway lol

glacial oxide
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I have 3TB between the 2 M2s, I expect maaaaybe adding an SSD or HDD down the road, but only one.

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and I have 4 total right?

livid sparrow
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I've got 2tb in NVMe storage, 512gb of Sata SSD storage and a 2tb hard drive. Just in case

glacial oxide
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gotcha...so ultimately if I just stick with these two M.2s, I lose 2xSATA drives, but with the B550 Aorus pro ac, I have 6 SATA and 2 for SSD

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and how does the GPU play into the PCIe slots?

elfin warren
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Just tske up one physical slot, might cover more

glacial oxide
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gotcha. the GPU takes up the fastest slot right? the silver one on my mobo

elfin warren
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The tip x16 slot yes

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The reinforced one

livid sparrow
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...What do you even put in the x1 slots šŸ¤”

silk ice
glacial oxide
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yea gotcha, okay. so I am just ultimately losing on extra storage slots...and ofc the point that it'd probs be a better $ deal to only have gotten 1xPCIe 4 storage?

elfin warren
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Wifi is x1 i think

livid sparrow
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Hmm...

split copper
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usb cards, sata cards, wifi etc

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not much really

livid sparrow
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A Tv Tuner card uh

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The concept of watching cable television on a computer by shoving the cable into a x1 card hurts my head

split copper
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or ota

glacial oxide
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alright, thanks all!

noble rampart
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I got my motherboard today

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it's smaller than I thought

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but it's nice

silk ice
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matx I assume then?

noble rampart
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I like the vrm heatsinks and the m.2 heat sink

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yes

silk ice
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Nice what board did you get?

noble rampart
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the b560 tuf wifi

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(matx)

silk ice
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Nice

noble rampart
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thx

dusty holly
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Can someone please recommend a good budget mobo for r5 3600, 3600mhz ram and 3070 please Iā€™ve been looking for hours

delicate hearth
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depends on budget really

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and if you want pcie gen 4 support or not

dusty holly
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Whatā€™s that Iā€™m dumb this is my first pc lol

elfin warren
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Do you already have the 3600?

delicate hearth
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its the lanes that are used for the CPU to talk to other components

dusty holly
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No

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I donā€™t

delicate hearth
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gen 4 is the newest

elfin warren
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The reason is, Intel 10400 or 11400 spank it for gaming

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and are cheaper

dusty holly
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Oh

elfin warren
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Ya!

noble rampart
elfin warren
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It does indeed

noble rampart
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rly

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interesting

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I thought only the 5000 series and 11th gen (intel) processors had pcie gen 4.0 support

elfin warren
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Nope

limber dragon
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3000 series has gen 4

elfin warren
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11th gen yes

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10th gen no

noble rampart
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ok

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so intel was late

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but not amd

broken onyx
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Would you call the 11700 (Not K, just 11700) a substantial upgrade over the 2700x?

noble rampart
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what for?

elfin warren
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11700 is a waste of money, get 11600 instead. And yes, decent upgrade

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But you'll need a new motherboard too

noble rampart
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yep

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so get a 5800x

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or a 3700x

elfin warren
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3700x meh

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5600/5800

broken onyx
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my prebuilt is coming with an 11700, but now I see I could have had a 5800 for a hundred bucks more

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whoopsie

elfin warren
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Well, prebuilts typically limit them with slow ram and other things anyway so

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Better to have saved the money

broken onyx
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that's good to know

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Yeah, I've noticed prebuilds love to skimp on ram

elfin warren
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Ye

warped scroll
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i5-7400 vs i7-4790? Which is better? Would pair 4790 with 4x4gb 1600MHz DDR3 and 7400 with 2x8gb 2666MHz

split copper
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honestly would go for an e3-1271v3, a bit better than the 4790 by some margin

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only caveat being no igp

warped scroll
split copper
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epic

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7400 and 4790

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?

warped scroll
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Looks like 7400 has a little better single core but in everything else 4790 beats it

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Yeah have both just lying around

naive pendant
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2 more cores and $100 cheaper

brazen crater
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what's the better for ram for r5 5600x 3200mhz or 3600mhz? PumpkinThink

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their website said it's 3200

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or they're just playin safe or whateve

vast meadow
brazen crater
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wait

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ol good

vast meadow
brazen crater
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ty mate

hollow thorn
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Well, 3600 performs better for 5600x

vast meadow
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So the formula is 2000*cl number/speed

hollow thorn
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Because IF

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Pure cl latency wise, they're the same

vast meadow
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Yes ik cuz infinity fabric but

hollow thorn
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Yes, but 3600c18 still outperforms 3200c16

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For Ryzen

hollow thorn
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3200c14 outperforms 3600c18 and 3600c16, even on Ryzen, but yea.

hidden cobalt
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Any recommendation for a mATX B550 mobo with flashback

long basalt
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Why mATX?

hidden cobalt
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smaller factor. Going to build in a micro case

long basalt
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But why? Do you have space limitations or something?

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Like, I'm all for reducing size, but sometimes it isn't really needed.

elfin warren
hidden cobalt
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No, but I like the smaller footprint. And really don't need the extra PCIe slots

elfin warren
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Full ATX isn't needed with a single GPU setup

long basalt
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No, but having some expansion slots is nice when you suddenly realize "Oh shirt, I need Wi-Fi" and "Well... USB Capture cards kinda blow"

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And you end up having problems with GPU clearance in a mATX board because most of them have the PCIe 1x slots BELOW THE GPU SLOT...

hidden cobalt
long basalt
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Why Microcenter only?

elfin warren
long basalt
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Do you have like, a bajillion giftcards or something?

elfin warren
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M.2 screws

long basalt
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M.2 Screws are a big one...

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I lost mine and got lucky that MSI and all other vendors use the same screws EXCEPT ASUS.

elfin warren
hidden cobalt
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I got one nearby and already have a card going there

long basalt
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I'd look at the MSI MAG B550M Bazooka if you don't explicitly need Wi-Fi

elfin warren
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Might just need to buy the antennas or something

long basalt
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And if you buy new antennae, you can buy better ones!

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Because most wi-fi cards come with really crap antennae.

elfin warren
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The asus boards don't

long basalt
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Do they come with 9DBI antennae?

elfin warren
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Second floor

WiFi_lol.JPG
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780 MBPS

long basalt
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Albeit they are long bois

elfin warren
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XD

long basalt
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I need to buy a pair for my PC and my Fiancee's PC.

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Just so we don't have issues when we move into an apartment.

elfin warren
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Except you're forgetting the bluetooth.

long basalt
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No?

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BT runs over the same antennae

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BT is a 2.4ghz signal.

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Same as Wi-Fi

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Well, same as 2.4ghz Wi-Fi

noble rampart
long basalt
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Apparently the antennae can also be used on the router to boost signal.

hidden cobalt
elfin warren
hidden cobalt
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Yep will do in store to make sure when I pick up

warm path
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Mhm

grizzled bloom
long basalt
brittle stirrup
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how to buy amd ryzen 7 pro 4750g

vast meadow
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Ebay

long basalt
elfin warren
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4750G is desktop

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SPendy tho, $500

brittle stirrup
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oh

broken onyx
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Intel boost clock rates are different from overclocks, right? A non-K processor can still hit their advertised boost rates?

grizzled bloom
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Correct

broken onyx
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Awesome thank you!

timid ember
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AMD or Intel? I'll be using it for gaming, astro photo editing, and general use

elfin warren
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Depends on budget

timid ember
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Budget for the cpu is $250 max and $300 max on the mobo

marble knot
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probs intel then?

elfin warren
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Don't need a $300 mobo regardless

marble knot
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true

vast meadow
elfin warren
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For a $500 combo

vast meadow
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Better off 300 cpu/200ish mobo

vast meadow
elfin warren
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with money left over for a cooler

long basalt
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More Cores doesn't always equal more better.

vast meadow
long basalt
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If you are just gaming, a 11600K would likely be better overall.

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Since it has faster boost clocks.

elfin warren
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SIngle core is higher in 11th gen, which most people will use

vast meadow
long basalt
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Did you even read?

elfin warren
vast meadow
elfin warren
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XD

long basalt
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Photo Editing is so easy a potato can do it in 2021, so buying a CPU just for Photo Editing is pointless.

vast meadow
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Fair

timid ember
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Okay, thank you, so an 11600K and a B560 should be enough for my uses then

hollow thorn
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11400 should do it actually

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With b560

timid ember
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Is my RAM going to matter? Cause I already bought that

hollow thorn
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What ram is it? It can matter

timid ember
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16gb Trident Z 3200

long basalt
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It'll be good enough.

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I prefer to have 32GB because i'm a forgetful person and I like to have a bunch of crap open.

vast meadow
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16gb is plenty for most people

warped scroll
silk ice
warped scroll
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Then get that

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I was just saying 3600 CL18 is looked down upon cause it ā€œperforms the same as 3200MHz CL16ā€ when in almost every situation itā€™s better

silk ice
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That's fair

vast meadow
warped scroll
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Yeah no youā€™re right

elfin warren
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I mean, I wouldn't count on the OC

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It's always a roll of the dice

vast meadow
prime echo
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Anyone know when NewEgg Canada is gonna get in the TUF GAMING B560-PLUS WIFI?

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Cant find any place in Canada (That is reliable) that carries it yet.

vast meadow
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Mobos aren't usually out of stock for long

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Mb a few weeks

prime echo
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Its not just out of stock, theres no entry for it on NewEgg. lol

vast meadow
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Then get a different board

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If you really want that specific mobo

prime echo
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Nope. Want a ATX board.

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Ill just wait till it does come in stock

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Not like I have much of a choice anyways

vast meadow
prime echo
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Cant use my CPU cooler and GPU on a mATX board. Air Cooler is too wide. lol

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Ill have to look and see what other Asus ATX boards I can get my hands on. Really wanted TUF since I liked the new Aesthetics

vast meadow
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Oof what cooler do you have

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And what cpu are you going to put on it?

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Anyway mb this would be better

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It's cheaper than most of the atx b560s

storm mantle
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whats diff in z4-590?

vast meadow
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Z590 support 11th gen out of the box and pcie 4.0 if 11th gen cpu

prime echo
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The AS500 is wide enough that it actually conflicts with any Mobo that has its X16 PCIE slot at the very top.

vast meadow
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You actually want a z490 or z590 if you want to overclock anyway

prime echo
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I dont Overclock my CPU. Just Memory.

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Hence why I was looking at B560.

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It also needs to have SPDIF out for my Audio stuff.

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Needs Wifi to.

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Theres alot of checkboxes to mark off XD

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Might as well just wait for the TUF GAMING H570-PRO WIFI to get in stock. It is on NewEgg, just outta stock.

elfin warren
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H570??

prime echo
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Yes, H570.

elfin warren
prime echo
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Uh, the one I linked is in Canadian dollars. Rofl.

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The one you linked is in USD :p

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a good Z590 board for me would cost over 325-350 bucks. And thats not counting taxes+Shipping XD

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Least, for the higher end boards.

elfin warren
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Well, the VRM on that board is pretty bad

prime echo
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How so?

elfin warren
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8+1

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Processors that pull a lot of power might cause issues

prime echo
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Bomani_Shrug Pretty sure a 10700K wouldnt have issues.

elfin warren
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Ok then

prime echo
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No way in heck would I go to Rocketlake. Bonani_Rofl

elfin warren
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I mean, you know how much power that CPU uses right

prime echo
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Not off the top of my head, but it consumes less then its rocketlake counterpart. I know that for sure.

elfin warren
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heh

hollow thorn
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H570 just really wack

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But 10700k can also draw a lot of power

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ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ

elfin warren
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10700K will pull 200W on boost without overclock

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That board won't like it

hollow thorn
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250w avg iirc

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But yea

elfin warren
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Somewhere north of 200W yea

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8+1 not gonna like that

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at all

hollow thorn
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Meh, depends

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Asus usually uses pretty good stages, I'll check in a sec

prime echo
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If a H570 board like that cant handle a 10700K, it definitely wouldnt handle anything from Rocketlake. lmao.

hollow thorn
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Uh?

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11400 isn't power hungry

elfin warren
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Ya

hollow thorn
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Not as much

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Hell, I'll just grab some data and I'll be back

elfin warren
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11600K OC"d draws less power

hollow thorn
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Don't you love when stuff is so new we don't have data...

elfin warren
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Yeah been looking too

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I wouldn't do it but that's me

prime echo
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An 11600K (stock) draws less power then a 10700K? I dont beleive that. lmao

hollow thorn
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that we do have data for, brb,

elfin warren
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Overclocked draws less power

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11600K overclocked

missing-image.png
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10700K is stock, no OC

prime echo
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So If I went to H570, I should also invest in a 11600K?

hollow thorn
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or go b560 or smth else

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h570 kinda annoying me with the smol info

elfin warren
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They need WiFi and SPDIF

hollow thorn
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b560 at least a bit more info

prime echo
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Christ, there goes an extra 450 bucks for my upgrade.

hollow thorn
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wat

elfin warren
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Canada pricing

prime echo
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  • provincial taxes and shipping
hollow thorn
prime echo
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isnt ATX. Doesnt have SPDIF output. Wont fit my cooler.

hollow thorn
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and at least we know that board as 12 stages of some kind of onsemi DrMOS

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wait what

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why is being ATX an requirement

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and why wouldn't it fit cooler?

prime echo
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my Cooler wouldnt fit becuase the GPU slot is too high up

hollow thorn
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spdif annoying but

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what kinda cooler are you putting on....?

prime echo
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AS500 from Deepcool.

hollow thorn
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uh, that shouldn't care about GPU slot location

elfin warren
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Only 3" wide

hollow thorn
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not exactly a wide boi

elfin warren
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1.5" from center of CPU

hollow thorn
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spdif is annoying though

prime echo
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I tried it on my Z490-G wifi Mobo. The cooler is too close to the GPU, and actually pushes down on it a bit.

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Making it impossible to take off the fans on the cooler.

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Even harder to take the GPU out since ya cant reach the release latch

elfin warren
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There's more room between CPu and GPU on the B560

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There's an M.2 slot in between them

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adds like 3/4"

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Maybe not that much

hollow thorn
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the heck is with z490-g

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so close to the cpu

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huh

prime echo
elfin warren
hollow thorn
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tomahawk looks to be 5x2+1x2

prime echo
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And it does check all the checkboxes. Problem though, is their software. I had an MSI board before, and Dragoncenter was giving me nothing but issues >-<

hollow thorn
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oh nice it does spdif out

elfin warren
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Ye

hollow thorn
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@prime echo don't use dragon center then

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and also, all mobo software suck

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armory crate sucks

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asrock's thing sucks

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gigabyte's thing sucks

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dragon center sucks

prime echo
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Gigabyte just sucks over all. kek Bad Customer service, RMA service, bad RGB Software.... the only thing good is the Discord communtiy. lol

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I have had 0 issues with Armoury crate though.

hollow thorn
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Gigabyte makes some good boards, some good cards, and some good monitors :(

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@elfin warren didn't you have an issue with armory crate crashing your system randomly?

elfin warren
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Not just me but Kenzie and others too

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From Event Viewer lol

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and WhoCrashed

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It's poo

prime echo
livid sparrow
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I've never had Armory Crate crash, but the installation disc that came with my mobo did a lot

prime echo
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Who still uses CD Roms for Mobo software? kek

hollow thorn
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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

livid sparrow
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ASUS sent one with the mobo, it had a single file I needed

hollow thorn
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software always wacky

prime echo
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Starting to think I should just stay Z490 XD

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The Tuf B560 should be able to handle my 10700K though. Bomani_Think

hollow thorn
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you know

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it doesn't really matter, the VRMs, since it'll run, just won't boost as high if vrm starts running hot

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can't really say how exactly it'll do because lack of info, but it will run

livid sparrow
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I had this thing where downloading the AMD chipset drivers from both AMD and the ASUS website would crash my computer for some reason, but the ones from the disc didn't. So I downloaded those after about 12 attempts that were interrupted by the install wizard crashing and updated using the ones from the ASUS website, which for some reason worked. And then I had to reinstall Windows because other crashes and the download from the websites worked

hollow thorn
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seems to be 8x some kind of 50a stages

prime echo
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Might I be better off getting the TUF Z590 then? Bomani_Think So I have room to upgrade to a rocketlake CPU later down the line?

vast meadow
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You might be better off not going tuf tbh

prime echo
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I hear the Intel 500 series of TUF Boards are really good.

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370 bucks Canadian (Total) doesnt seem bad for a Z590 board.

limber dragon
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See if you can get a gigabyte z590 imo

hollow thorn
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I mean uh

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that's what 300usd

limber dragon
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elite/ultra/master

prime echo
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Id rather not deal with RGB Fusion with my RGB, k thanks XD

limber dragon
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so just the bloatware that is armory crate?

prime echo
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Ive had 0 issues with Aura/Armory Crate so far. So its my go to.

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And Gigabyte Customer Support is the worst to. So Im avoiding that stuff like the plauge.

elfin warren
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Heh, you haven't dealt with Asus support lately

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Should see the people here dealing with RMA's

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It's cringe

prime echo
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Same with Gigabyte. kek

limber dragon
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asus support ime is "F you, you're on your own"

elfin warren
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OH, your board M.2 slot stopped working? There's a tiny chip on your board so that'll be $700 for us to Fix it"

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There's a tiny piece of paint missing on the corner, that'll be $800

livid sparrow
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I'm one of those tiny chip on your board people

elfin warren
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I know lol

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I know it wasn't $800 but it was the cost of a new board

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175?

livid sparrow
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180

prime echo
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This is why I like my warranties. kek.

elfin warren
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These were warranties

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RMA = Warranty

livid sparrow
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It was under warranty, they tried arguing it was voided because damage

vernal cosmos
elfin warren
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Asus gone downhill

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It's sad šŸ˜¦

prime echo
#

The MSI B560 Tomahawk Wifi is my only other choice really. Though, Im a lil confused at that bottom PCIE PSU plug though...

vernal cosmos
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Also gigabyte support very nais

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From personal experience

hollow thorn
#

it's normal for multi-GPU

prime echo
#

Ah, so I wouldnt have to worry about it.

hollow thorn
#

it's generally a plug that shows up on HEDT boards that needs more power if you want to draw more power through PCIe slots for more GPUs

prime echo
#

Welp, We will see when the time comes. Might end up flipping a coin. Kek.

vernal cosmos
#

Get a gigabyte as fitz suggested tbh

prime echo
#

Nope. Not gonna do Gigabyte. lol

prime echo
#

Ill just do Z590 TUF. That will future proof my Mobo till Meteor Lake.

vast meadow
#

No it wont

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They're changing socket next gen

naive pendant
prime echo
#

Bad Customer/RMA Service. Bad RGB Fusion. lol

elfin warren
#

No worse than anyone else at this point.

prime echo
elfin warren
#

šŸ¤·

livid sparrow
#

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

signal garden
#

So Im really at a loss at this point, so I'll ask here to see if anyone can help. My pc has been crashing recently after I tried to boost the mhz of the ram (It should have been more than capable of that). But I did that and it didnt want to boot up. After that I put it back to auto (which set it back to the default 2133). Since then my computer had been randomly freezing then crashing. I have already tried swapping my ram, to see if that was maybe the problem. But the problem keeps happening. Im assuming at this point the problem may be the motherboard? Anyone else have any other ideas as to what it could be?

grizzled bloom
#

Reset your bios to default settings and see if you have problems still

signal garden
#

Thank you for the advice, hopefully it works

grizzled bloom
#

A lot of the time that helps unstable memory

broken onyx
#

This is probably a very silly question, but there's no reason a prebuilt wouldn't use Intel's turbo boost, right?

grizzled bloom
#

I've seen prebuilt limit the boost before but that's a rarity. Most of the time it'll follow standard spec for each part.

broken onyx
#

That's good information, thanks. Really hoping this corsair prebuilt doesn't limit it, it's a non K variant but it's over 2K so by golly they better not limit it

split copper
#

Probably not

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My i7-4790 limits itself to like 3.8GHz because it's got a smaller cooler

grizzled bloom
#

Even that is a synthetic and not a hard limit, and can be easily fixed. 99% of prebuilt follow their minimum spec at least.

signal garden
grizzled bloom
#

If it was the psu you'd have symptoms along the lines of graphics drivers crashing under heavy load or full system shutdown with no errors

signal garden
#

Ahh

grizzled bloom
#

It would be mostly instant crashing under heavy or sustained load, not a freeze

signal garden
#

Alright, thank you

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Yea, it freezes for about 4 or 5 seconds, then blue screens

elfin warren
#

SOunds like a driver issue to me

grizzled bloom
#

What errors on the blue screen? Usually drivers yeah

elfin warren
#

Id' just grab WhoCrashed

signal garden
#

Stop code: WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR

elfin warren
#

oh

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CPu and motherboard?

signal garden
#

When I look that up, it says something about it being hardware

grizzled bloom
#

That's often a failed overclock

elfin warren
#

Or a bad Ryzen BIOS

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I got those on my 3700x with a bad BIOS asus put out

signal garden
#

Its an i7-9700k

grizzled bloom
#

Yep, reset and update bios and see if you still have problems

signal garden
elfin warren
#

Oh, update it

grizzled bloom
#

Update bios then check your boot order

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Windows boot loader should be the top

signal garden
#

I almost never go into bios tbh. I don't even know where those are

signal garden
#

nvm, found booted it up through csm

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Alright, so I believe I downloaded the most recent bios for my motherboard through Armoury Crate. It downloaded a .zip file. Not too sure where to go from here

wintry scarab
#

Google

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sry, yeah Asus has it on their site

true fiber
#

Corsair or G Skill? 3600 vs 4000 respectively

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same cl

elfin warren
#

Gskill

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Corsair sub timings usually oof

true fiber
#

I heard Gskill is usually able to oc higher than advertised

elfin warren
#

Depends on the chips it has TBH

true fiber
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done so they can keep it stable guaranteed

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but ive only ever had their ripjaws

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and those were... mediocre

elfin warren
#

Ye, they are. Most are Hynix chips

true fiber
#

its gonna be a 128gb set

elfin warren
#

The good stuff goes into the Trident

true fiber
#

That is where I will be buying

#

Trident or Royal

#

the next question

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which one is better

elfin warren
#

If it's all the same speed and timings, get the cheaper of the two.

grizzled bloom
#

My 3200 ripjaws are c-die so not too bad for the price they were. That's my backup / test set now.

pale mist
#

Am i just completely screwed with my ram?

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I bought 16gb of 3200mhz Oloy warhawk

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And it doesnā€™t even reach advertised timeings

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Not stably at least

grizzled bloom
#

Your first problem was buying oloy, your second was buying 3200
In all seriousness you probably just need to play with the various voltages

limber dragon
#

or if they're on zen/zen+, might just be the cpu

grizzled bloom
#

Would you really expect Mr. Sketchy Xeon CEO to use AMD?

pale mist
#

Haa. Well, actually i am using AMD on this build.

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Its a 5600x

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I use AMD from time to time- but i will always be a xeon fan. RN working on a phenom x6+ 950 build as well

grizzled bloom
#

My original post stands then. Oloy compatibility and only 3200, eww.

livid sparrow
#

I am assuming Oloy puts out meh ram?

pale mist
#

Yeah. I was really rooting for them to be good to.

elfin warren
#

Some of it is b die samsung

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Some of it is good

pale mist
#

Looks good at least, but RGB is a headache

elfin warren
#

Gotta check xmp timings and such to know

pale mist
#

The software kept crashing

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And it is naturally out of sync

livid sparrow
#

I've never seen the appeal for RGB ram, fans yes, but RGB ram usually looks...odd to me

pale mist
#

I like RGB personally

rigid hemlock
#

rgb ram can make it look glowy which is neat

grizzled bloom
#

3200 not likely to be a great die

rigid hemlock
#

also its realllyyy nice cuz its a visual indicator the ram is powered

pale mist
#
  1. Because i am 14 (ooh shiny things cooool)
rigid hemlock
#

i.e know when its sleep mode vs truly off, know when system has power

pale mist
#
  1. Because it is easy money for me because people go weak for RGB
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So i get some ali RGB strips

grizzled bloom
#

RGB is actually useful in my case, MSI software lets me set color based on cpu temps

rigid hemlock
#

if you want mad money figure out argb aio sleaves for a galahad with strimer style effects. I really want argb tubes

split copper
#

pov fal'cie

livid sparrow
#

Eh, I use the Aura Sync software from ASUS and found that the cpu temp setting lags and is inaccurate

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Plus it pulses and I don't like the pulses

pale mist
#

My NZXT aio already got that covered

grizzled bloom
split copper
#

lol

grizzled bloom
livid sparrow
#

Hmm, I'll have to check it out. I couldn't even track what temperature the Aura one was using because it wasn't changing based on any of the cpu related temps I had while I was monitoring it

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Like I was pushing 70 and it was still green for sub 30

devout mothBOT
#
TheTrueBacca#2995 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

burnt spear
#

God dang it I don't think I even swore in that message

#

Whatever I dont feel like typing that out again

spare geyser
#

Just wondering which one is better dark hero or formula

fiery barn
#

Hi Everyone, I am new to this forum and just learning how to use this. Looking for help on building a dual CPU with two w-3175x Xeon Skylake. Want to buy parts from different places, but want to be sure i have the right stuff for the build.

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Hope i can find help here.

elfin warren
#

What are you using this for?

hollow thorn
#

@fiery barn what's the budget and what will be the purpose?

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(I'm thinking a single threadripper chip will do)

elfin warren
#

Yeah

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IDK what this is for

#

$8k just in CPU

hollow thorn
#

Even just a 3990x that'll outperform 2 w-3175x's in most tasks is just what, 4000$?

harsh night
#

no it can't

gentle acorn
harsh night
#

its worth just $10

#

also the z590 has better rear io

gentle acorn
#

Alright

eager shore
#

z490 is better if you're just staying with the 10850k tbh

#

no need for a z590 chipset

harsh night
#

for like $30 not worth

eager shore
#

huh better io, that's nice

harsh night
#

z590 godlike is nutty

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finite elm
#

me on my b550 pro-VDH wifi šŸ‘ļøšŸ‘„šŸ‘ļø

gentle acorn
#

Itā€™s the same price as the Z590

haughty pewter
#

I'm buying a msi b560 torpedo mobo and was wondering if I could daisy chain 5 rgb cables of the fans to one rgb connector

harsh night
#

they are very similair

#

but the gaming plus has rgb so

gentle acorn
#

Alright

#

Guess Iā€™ll go with that one then it also has another PCIe slot if I need it later on for something

harsh night
gentle acorn
#

The Z590 had 2 slots the Z490 one has 3

harsh night
#

pcie 1x?

gentle acorn
#

Yeah

harsh night
#

i dont see you needing more but ok

gentle acorn
#

Iā€™ll be needing a WiFi card and one will be covered by my GPU likely

harsh night
#

also i think you can put a 1x device in a 16x

fiery barn
elfin warren
#

3175 CPU doesn't support a dual cpu installation tho. It's 1S only.

fiery barn
elfin warren
#

Right but it doesn't work in Dual CPU boards, it's 1S only. So I'd choose a different Xeon or use it in a single CPU setup

rocky beacon
#

"Intel Xeon, Core i9, or Core i7 processors are recommended"

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That is what their website says

elfin warren
#

Ya, it's just the CPU they want to use is 1S and can't be used in a dual setup

rocky beacon
fiery barn
fiery barn
grizzled bloom
fiery barn
rocky beacon
#

Okay

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Read the bottom of that page

#

It gives recommend specs for exactly what you want in the application

grizzled bloom
#

Threadripper is not epyc

fiery barn
#

Looks like there is no dual socket for this W-3175 chip

fiery barn
fiery barn
rocky beacon
#

Read the bottom of that page

fiery barn
grizzled bloom
# fiery barn I am looking for abotu 3x the speed of the i9

The more I read the more information contradicts itself. The email doesn't recommend epyc but then the website says go by floating point performance, which epyc does quite well in. Here's an idea of what some of the best systems would be based on that floating point data they recommended looking at.

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This is more than a processor list, you can buy these systems pre-configured from those vendors

topaz reef
#

They are also comparing intels cooper lake vs milan, which has over a year between them

#

oems are still releasing rome boards, i dont see these being available too soon in quantity

plain hawk
#

Should I get a b550 or x570 for my r9 5900X?

lavish aspen
plain hawk
lavish aspen
#

Hmmmm maybe x570

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Depends how much u wanna spend on it too

#

But I do know that Aourus boards and their bios is good

plain hawk
lavish aspen
#

Like maybe a winter edition or something

plain hawk
lavish aspen
#

Cus if itā€™s all white black would be tacky

#

Hm

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Wait maybe not

plain hawk
#

Itā€™s all white ..

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lavish aspen
#

If itā€™s black and white build Iā€™m pretty sure aorus has addressable rgb for their Mobos and just set that to white

#

Whit B550 100%

#

White B550 the way to go

lavish aspen
#

Whyā€™d it take me this long to realize itā€™s a rog themed build I swear Iā€™m not stupid

minor gyro
#

Itā€™s cute. Would be cuter if the 24 pin was under the AIO cords tho šŸ˜¦ (my opinion is all that is)

plain hawk
# lavish aspen White B550 the way to go

well i currently have i9-10850k pumping with z490 mb but im going back and fourth whether or not i should get a b500 mb with my extra r9500x or just leave it lol

lavish aspen
minor gyro
#

(Itā€™s just personal preference tbh)

lavish aspen
minor gyro
#

very good job though jack.

lavish aspen
plain hawk
plain hawk
lavish aspen
minor gyro
#

Ahh. I see you want to clean look on both sides. I just shave things in the back... literally any 30 series I can afford

lavish aspen
#

But if u r stripping the parts go with a whit B550

plain hawk
lavish aspen
plain hawk
lavish aspen
#

Oh and 3070 according to a few ppl here is amazing for wz I love the game and obviously turn in DLSS

elfin warren
#

it doesn't

lavish aspen
#

On*

lavish aspen
elfin warren
#

ON some Intel it might if they don't follow the pL rules

lavish aspen
#

Idk I thought it was slight change

elfin warren
#

Nah

#

Not unless your board has crappy VRM

plain hawk
#

so i should just sell my r9 5900x?

lavish aspen
#

Itā€™s up to u

noble rampart
#

got my motherboard

#

it looks sick

lavish aspen
noble rampart
#

b560 tuf matx wifi

plain hawk
lavish aspen
#

Pogey

noble rampart
#

yep

lavish aspen
#

And what do u do with ur system?

plain hawk
hollow thorn
#

Tabs open in the background doesn't really matter, just what you do with the system matters :p

#

And well, roblox doesn't really need a 5900x

lavish aspen
hollow thorn
#

@plain hawk do you do anything beyond discord...?

plain hawk
hollow thorn
#

(background processes doesn't usually impact the system's cpu usage, unless it's rgb software)

#

What do you stream?

plain hawk
lavish aspen
#

Go R9

#

With B550 if u donā€™t really care if the MOBO is black

plain hawk
lavish aspen
#

Yeah go for R9 b550

hollow thorn
#

Warzone may see gains from 5900x

plain hawk
lavish aspen
hollow thorn
#

Depends on your financial situation imo, because both are capable chips

lavish aspen
#

Cus u stream

hollow thorn
#

5900x will net you a while lot more money

lavish aspen
hollow thorn
#

Yes

lavish aspen
hollow thorn
#

I'm saying 5900x sells for what, 600$

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10850k retails for ~300$

lavish aspen
#

Iā€™m not gonna tell u that either is better I just prefer AMD

#

A little more freedom to like stream

plain hawk
hollow thorn
#

Meh, 10850k still has 10c20t

#

5900x is better in general.

lavish aspen
#

Yeah

#

R9 the way to go

hollow thorn
#

Just if you needed the money, selling 5900x would net you a lot more money.

lavish aspen
#

^^^

plain hawk
#

nah i dont need the money. just going for best posible build

hollow thorn
#

Like personally I don't have a lot of money to throw around, I'd rather keep a decent solution (10850k) and be able to save up, that's why I mention it.

#

5900x is better in general.

lavish aspen
#

Looks so good

plain hawk
#

yeah i have that exact same mb but the z490 version

lavish aspen
#

Mhm just go with the B550 and try to find sum1 who will buy the 10850k

plain hawk
#

im sure i can find someone

split copper
#

I'm thinking of what I would buy if I were to do a 10100 build and looking at the current cheapest mobos of each chipset

#

b550 has two 2280 slots but you can only use both with a rocket lake cpu šŸ˜”

#

b560 rather

#

and the cheapest b460 supports both with a 10th gen cpu

sinful helm
#

what is a good motherboard for intel

#

socket LGA1200

limber dragon
#

One that fits your budget and has everything you want/need, they're all decent for the most part

sinful helm
#

can Gigabyte B460M DS3H handle 10400F

#

and RTX 3060 ti founders edition

limber dragon
#

Yeah

vast meadow
#

Yes but b560 would be better because it allows memory to go over 2666mhz

noble rampart
#

wait can I damage my motherboard by touching it (nothing is on)

#

I wasn't on carpet either

elfin warren
#

no

noble rampart
#

ok

#

kool

finite elm
elfin warren
#

Gross

#

Call them out for scalping

finite elm
#

So glad i decided to just get the 5950x for 800$ when they had that available

#

I'm not in Minnesota currently, who would i call them out to? Lol

elfin warren
#

Call them out when you bought it

#

Over the 5900x price

#

That's gross

finite elm
#

I didn't buy the 5900x, i have a 5950x lol

#

I just keep an eye on things like that^

elfin warren
#

$150 over MSRP, shame on MC :/

finite elm
#

For sure

#

I don't even know why they'd sell the 5950x at msrp and then this one for only 100$ less, i think they are trying to get people to buy the 5800x instead

#

The 5800x is 20$ under msrp, and they also get that 20$ off when you buy a new mobo as well. So you can get one for 410$ if you're building a new pc.

wanton escarp
#

Anyone know when newegg might get the vision z590i ?

vast meadow
#

Motherboards usually restock every few weeks so should be soon

fallow lark
#

can a b560 unlock/max turbo a 10100f to 4.4+ac

#

also run gen3 x4 off cpu lane with it?

vast meadow
split copper
#

get a decent air cooler and it should turbo fine

#

also some b560s I looked at lock one of the m.2 slots unless you have a rocket lake cpu which sucks

#

while a b460 equiv will let you have both slots occupied with your 10th gen chip

hollow thorn
#

is just asus

split copper
#

ah

#

poo

#

stupd asus bbnohappy

hollow thorn
#

asus too lazy to make m.2_1 switch from PCIe 4.0 to 3.0 for 10th gen chips

split copper
#

will there ever be rocket lake i3s

#

probably not šŸ˜”

fallow lark
#

the m.2 issue is quite problematic for itx as its already limited storage wise

vast meadow
split copper
#

yea

#

not rocket lake

#

it's not gonna resurrect that m.2 slot lmao

fallow lark
#

i just want 2 m.2 drives on a budget itx build and intel with its "budget chip" price points make it seem impossible

vast meadow
fallow lark
#

key note itx/b560 are scarce if not non-existant

#

looks at price of msi and gigabyte b550i.......shakes head

split copper
#

don't they only get one slot on itx boards

fallow lark
#

i can run my r9 with my pro ax...at the cost of clock speed bc of cooling

#

and the b550 has 2x m.2 slots smh and one is cpu laned

#

intel acts like this is impossible to offer <200$

vast meadow
fallow lark
#

exactly and all z490 and z590 itx cost up the a

vast meadow
split copper
#

ah right tru

fallow lark
#

the whole point was to make a 4k rig i could lump around from display to display and use to lan party

#

not a 8c+ cpu

#

i might just have to get a noctua cooler and put the r9 in the itx....and sell the desktop

#

not to mention non zen3 performance in esports etc for those warzone/cs lan sessions its why im pushed to 11th gen 11400f

vast meadow
fallow lark
#

its a good price point and has wifi for those needs

#

i really cant wait for usb4/amd zen4 laptops so i can throw all these builds/ideas in the trash

solar parcel
#

I went through 2 defective ROG boards before going with an Aorus board, did I just get unlucky twice in a row? or are ROG boards just trash?

ember marten
#

They are overpriced but I have yet to have a defective Asus board

#

I've ran/tested 4 of them personally

solar parcel
#

well, the first one wouldn't use wifi at all, I tried a few different dongles and a pci wifi card, the second one wouldn't let me use all 16gigs of ram, but wouldn't even boot without both sticks in just the right slots

ember marten
#

For wifi you want to use their antennas

#

Strange it wouldn't work with a PCIE card though

solar parcel
#

I thought so too

ember marten
#

Also asus boards tend to be pretty decent with memory, especially the dark hero. So not sure there

solar parcel
#

yeah, no one I talked to had any kind of idea what was going wrong there

ember marten
#

I'd recommend an MSI board for the casual user but I'm happy with my C8Hero

solar parcel
#

my old pc had a msi board

ember marten
#

I also built with an X570 Aorus Master for my dad. Good board, but I prefer my C8Hero

solar parcel
#

fair enough

#

my mobo box says X570 Auorus Elite on it

ember marten
#

Built a compact system with the ROG B550-I. It also works just fine. Unfortunately Asus (like all the other motherboard vendors) gimp the BIOS a bit by not allowing full VTTDDR control, so you can't use it for proper memory overclocking even though it would be perfect for it otherwise

solar parcel
#

yeah, I remember my rog bios didn't use the full potential of the ram

hardy moon
ember marten
hardy moon
ember marten
#

No

#

Master is $370 right now

#

You might be thinking of the Aorus Xtreme

vast path
#

I was able to buy a Cooler Master Cosmos off of Craigslist for $20. I am looking to build a computer I will never outgrow and I will never have to upgrade. Since the case can take it I want to get an XL ATX motherboard. Any recommendations??

elfin warren
#

Are you going THreadripper or Xeon?

vast meadow
#

Just a rule of thumb, what you want comes at a large cost and you will outgrow it and it will need upgrades unless you want to run a fairly slow computer in 10-15 years

elfin warren
#

Well, EATX is a pretty rare thing and only needed for TR or Xeon anyway

grizzled bloom
#

Even epyc has ITX options lol

vast meadow
#

Really?

elfin warren
#

Yes

vast meadow
#

It's a server cpu why would you need itx

elfin warren
#

Cuz you can

vast meadow
#

Sounds v niche

grizzled bloom
#

It is

#

But how cool is it to say your server is less than one square foot

vast meadow
#

TouchƩ

ember marten
#

Maximum compute density...

vast path
elfin warren
#

My point is, EATX is designed for server boards

#

ATX is what desktop CPU's use

analog rune
#

Quick question... I have a i5-9600k and it always is running at 4.3 GHz.... Should I be worried? I feel when I am idle it should slow down but for some reason its just constantly high... any ideas?

elfin warren
#

Check Windows Power Plan

#

If it's on High Performance mode, change it to balanced

vast path
elfin warren
#

Depends on what you're doing and what workstation software you're running, some prefer AMD, some prefer Intel

analog rune
#

Just checked the power plan and its was set to ultimate lol but only brought it to 4.2 and I'm only running a couple google tabs and discord šŸ˜¬

elfin warren
#

So the other thing you can do is go into Power Plan Details, Minimum CPU state to 30% or something

analog rune
#

Gotcha I'll definitely take a look! Thank you!!!

elfin warren
#

YW

vast path
#

I would probably go with Threadripper

split copper
#

I recently learned about an issue where the advanced power settings were cut down to like 4 items

#

There's not much out there to solve it

#

There was some registry edits that worked once upon a time, but those are apparently nonfunctional

#

Now it's some powershell commands or something

analog rune
#

I was able to set it to a balanced power mode and then turn my maximum processor power to like 90% and the min to 5% and that totally did the trick only running at like 2.3GHz and everything is still running great

split copper
#

Epic

vast path
#

I was thinking of a Gigabyte TRX40 Aorus Xtreme

split copper
#

Sometimes it's best to leave computer settings alone like in paging file size, but on the case of power settings they've hamfisted it so you might not be able to have control over it, and you really need to be able to have control over it

#

It's garbage

#

Windows bad šŸ˜Ž

vast path
#

Funny. No response

elfin warren
#

Well, because Threadripper for a home user is kinda silly? There's been nothing about what you want to do with this PC and spending $4000 on a cpu isn't to be taken lightly XD

sinful helm
#

is the ryzen 5 3600 better than i-5 10400F

#

or not???

limber dragon
#

I'd go 10400f for gaming

sinful helm
#

alr thx man

#

is 10400f and msi 5700 XT good for gaming?

limber dragon
#

yeah

sinful helm
#

say less thx man

solar parcel
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I decided to go with AMD cpu cause all the shenanigans that Intel was into some time ago

grizzled bloom
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That's fair. AMD is better for gaming right now anyway. Intel became the "value" option.

solar parcel
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you know that benchmark where it builds a picture one tile at a time?

grizzled bloom
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Cinebench

solar parcel
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that's it

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for multi-threading my cpu was only topped by 2 thread rippers and a xeon

elfin warren
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Well, that benchmark doesn't show all the CPU's XD

grizzled bloom
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Yeah my 5800X is matching the top first gen threadripper. It's insane how far they've come.

solar parcel
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yep

solar parcel
elfin warren
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I'm a bit of a realist

solar parcel
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fair enough

grizzled bloom
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You can check out the leaderboards on hwbot

solar parcel
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neat

elfin warren
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I usually use something like Passmark or CPU monkey to compare CPU's in single and multicore

solar parcel
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oh, that's handy

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I wasn't really wanting to be the best of the best, I just don't want to have to figure out where I'm gonna get the money to upgrade in the next 5 or more years

grizzled bloom
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With a cpu you don't need to upgrade nearly as often as a gpu, 5 years is reasonable.

pale mist
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Yeah, thats true

solar parcel
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my gpu is a raedon 5700xt

pale mist
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Ok, respectable

grizzled bloom
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Not bad. I'd give that another couple years.

solar parcel
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awesome

grizzled bloom
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Unless you want to move up to 1440p before then

pale mist
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I mean frankly i donā€™t understand why people want these new cards this badly

elfin warren
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5700XT should do OK at 1440p

solar parcel
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no 1440p?

elfin warren
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2070 super level

split copper
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I'd be keeping the 5700xt for years

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many years

grizzled bloom
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It'll be OK sure, but it'll struggle over 100 fps in a lot of titles.

pale mist
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I am blessed with being happy with 30fps lisasu2

solar parcel
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yeah, especially since crypto mining just refuses to die

grizzled bloom
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I don't want it to die, my crypto wallet is too nice kekw

solar parcel
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lawl

pale mist
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My poor 290 is just terrible at crypto

grizzled bloom
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Really though, mining is only a small part of the larger problem with stock

solar parcel
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really?

elfin warren
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yes

pale mist
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Somehow it manages to cost more to run then it makes

elfin warren
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overall PC demand went up 26%, biggest increase in more than a decade

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and that was the end of 2020

solar parcel
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what could be the worse thing that I've never heard about?

grizzled bloom
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Yeah, maybe 5-10% of new stock is going to miners

elfin warren
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It's literally people and kids schooling and working from home XD

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That are the biggest demand

solar parcel
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then the reason everything is priced at least 50% higher cause scalpers?

elfin warren
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Demand

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Scalpers just taking advantage of it

solar parcel
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oh

split copper
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and normal retailers go along with the scalper dance

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sometimes

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oversimplified, but if their price is low, their inventory is gone really quick, so they hike the price to hold onto inventory longer

solar parcel
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yeah, I getcha there

grizzled bloom
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Plus tariffs in the US

split copper
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yea bbnohappy

solar parcel
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not like any manufacturer is going to open up domestic production

split copper
grizzled bloom
solar parcel
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oh, that's neat, maybe when it's up and running, prices will go down

vast path
elfin warren
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I mean, thousands for a CPU you can't make use of in a non-workstation environment? You gonna be rendering or cad work or something?

grizzled bloom
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Probably around the time the second generation of DDR5 stuff is going around. Price impact remains to be seen...

elfin warren
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Still haven't answered that BTW

split copper
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using this to grind your trash

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is probably overkill

grizzled bloom
# vast path Silly? Why silly?

If you're just gaming you won't be using more than 4 cores probably. 6 cores for multitasking. 8 cores for future proofing.

vast path
grizzled bloom
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Threadripper is a massive waste in that case

elfin warren
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I asked twice

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-_-

split copper
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doesn't tr have underperforming single core perf

vast path
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Video production?

solar parcel
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I like what thread rippers look like

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great big rectangles

vast path
grizzled bloom
grizzled bloom
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Most will use gpu acceleration so cpu has less impact

elfin warren
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šŸæ

vast path
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Probably Premiere Pro

vast meadow
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Premiere is gpu accelerated so something like an i5 10400 or 11400 would be all you need

minor gazelle
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Do u guys think thereā€™s point in over clocking a 32gb 3600 cl16 ram? Iā€™m running 5600x and 3070 with it

vast path
mild jackal
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lol, premier definitely like more cores if you can afford it

naive pendant
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i want a white design so im looking at steel legend, pro4, whatnot

vast meadow
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Looks like a decent one but not the price listed on Amazon dear god

vast path
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This is the one I was looking at buying

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rocky beacon
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Why would you need theadripper pro

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That is a $1000 motherboard

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@vast path What res are you editing?

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11700K is what is recommended for 4K video editing in Premire Pro

vast path
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Who says that is the only thing I am doing?? šŸ™‚

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And you are right. It is a $1,000 board šŸ™‚

rocky beacon
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What resolution are you editing and what are you doing with the PC?

limber dragon
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$1000 board for octa channel $3000+ cpus makes sense tbh

vast meadow
rocky beacon
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Agreed

hollow thorn
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Well, maybe more on the ~500$ range would make sense for a TR board

limber dragon
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does PPro use 512?

rocky beacon
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5950X is better for all around usage

hollow thorn
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What even uses 512

limber dragon
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and also costs nearly 2x as much

hollow thorn
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Isn't it just a really new thing

limber dragon
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anything intel hedt optimized uses 512

hollow thorn
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I mean software wise

limber dragon
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ik there's a video rendering software that does, cant remember if its blender or some adobe

hollow thorn
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Hm, might need to look more into avx512 then

grizzled bloom
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3800 CL14 is a good target for 5600X

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Depending on what die you have

limber dragon
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cant find the program I was thinking of, but stumbled upon this from intel/pixar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WqrP50nvN4

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