#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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limber dragon
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"decent" would be more around i5/ryzen 5 area, since price goes up exponentially, for minimal performance gains

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5600x/5800x or a 10700k/11600k is more than enough for the vast majority of people

midnight tartan
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Ok thanks 👍

grizzled bloom
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That poor, neglected computer... Far from the worst I've seen but still sad.

vast meadow
grizzled bloom
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I've seen a windows 95 computer that was filled halfway with cat hair, not even exaggeration.

ionic hamlet
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I should probably open up the old XP tower I've got kicking around. I bet it's full of dust, cat hair, and my hair.

vast meadow
split copper
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It's silly how neglectful people are of their computer hardware

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How much they insist on ignoring problems

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Cars too, lol anything

silk ice
elfin warren
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My 14 year old truck. Still like new.NYEHE

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silk ice
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ooh nice

split copper
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Vroom

elfin warren
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SOME people still take care of their things 😉

split copper
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Some derpyBlob

main pulsar
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yeah, then some of us live in central new york pepeLaugh

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where vehicles turn to rust buckets real fast,

silk ice
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My car has way too much pollen on it but I'm in an apartment complex with no covered parking so washing the pollen off is a losing fight until it settles down a bit more

ionic hamlet
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The XP tower's not been actively used in a long time. I just have it because I never got rid of it when I got my first laptop ages ago.

grizzled bloom
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Same, as a result I tend to use the same phone for 5 years now before it just dies on me

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"New does not mean better"

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I'm a little on the bigger side so I have to change my insoles once in a while but yeah I tend to use the same shoes until they're falling apart too

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In all fairness that was a pretty decent phone

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I had the G2 before, I have the G7 now

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Oh yeah I use wireless charging now except in the car

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It's pretty easy to reflow the solder, you just need a precision tip and a steady hand

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Ah yeah that's right

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Well, maybe. You do have to take it all apart to reflow.

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The "right to repair" movement is gaining steam, hopefully at least one company latches onto that and we get some actual good, intuitive design instead of stuff that's designed to break when you try to take it apart.

blissful oriole
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Well, you can just move the original part from the broken and put it on the new.

noble rampart
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lol me too

mellow hull
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Hello, I'm in market for desktop. Saw some mini-size option on website; too many to choose from. Can anyone help with some recommendations? I have a monitor, so just need CPU and keyboard, would like to spend < $1000. If this is wrong forum, can you please re-direct me? thank you.

winged needle
mellow hull
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Yes, don't need anything fancy; some home MS Office, maybe some video streaming, I'm not a gamer.

rocky beacon
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You mean you need a PC?

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CPU is a single part of a PC

winged needle
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Yeah

mellow hull
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Yes, a PC.

winged needle
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You need ram, psu, cpu, gpu

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case

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cpu cooler

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fans

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storage

mellow hull
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I would like a pre-built system.

elfin warren
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No games at all?

winged needle
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Well then you won't need a cpu

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Because it will come with one in the system

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You'd just need a keyboard then

rocky beacon
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...

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They need a pre built desktop for office work

winged needle
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Yeah

rocky beacon
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A Dell OptiPlex would work fine

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or a NUC if you want sff

mellow hull
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What is SFF?

winged needle
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He probably won't even need a gpu

elfin warren
rocky beacon
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Small Form Factor

winged needle
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Unless you are gonna be gaming

elfin warren
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Tower, KB and Mouse

mellow hull
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Yes, I liked the small form factor models

elfin warren
mellow hull
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Acer looks good! thank you for recommendation

elfin warren
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If you need more storage space could always add another larger drive as well

mellow hull
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would you know off top of your head if they can replace DVD and install a blu-ray?

elfin warren
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Need a blu ray drive?

mellow hull
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Just a nice to have; have a fair number of movies.

rocky beacon
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You could always buy a USB one if needed

elfin warren
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WOW they're spendy lol

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I checked for desktops that included BD, $1200-1400. ouch

mellow hull
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Hmm, that's a little out of my price range.

elfin warren
mellow hull
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but let me look at that one....

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External player $90 is good!

winged needle
mellow hull
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this has been very helpful! Thank you very much and have a great day!

cunning steppe
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I have a question... my motherboard states (from manufacture's website) I need UDIMM DDR4 Ram would DDR4 SDRAM work if I remove the UDIMM sticks and replace all with SDRAM?

elfin warren
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it's all the same

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What motherboard and cpu

cunning steppe
elfin warren
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motherboard model like b450 etc?

cunning steppe
elfin warren
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ahhhh lenovo

cunning steppe
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yup

elfin warren
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Lenovo tower model number? Motherboard didn't help much

cunning steppe
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510A-15ARR Desktop (ideacentre) - Type 90J0

elfin warren
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Looks liked DDR4 2666

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Already have 8 gigs and want 16?

cunning steppe
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yeah I found DDR4 2666 Corsair on Newegg 4x8gb SDRAM ... so I was just going to purchase that and replace what was in my desktop now

elfin warren
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You can do that, yes

cunning steppe
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Excellent thank you ... it's been years since I've dealt with Ram and Hardware building so a lot has changed so I wanted to make sure that it wouldn't harm any of the hardware 🙂

oblique crown
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How big is the chance to mess up a 5800x CPU when installing it yourself with a Arctic AIO cooler?

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The CPU is the only thing I am afraid of and that's the reason I am not sure if I should go to a pro shop, but that means going into another city, and also, finding someone that allows my supervision.

grizzled bloom
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Messing up the CPU itself? Not likely at all

oblique crown
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In my country customer support is not necessarily professional 😄

grizzled bloom
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Even if you mount it wrong the worst that happens is it overheats and shuts itself off

oblique crown
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Any guide for putting the paste on it? Or just put some in the middle, and enjoy fried eggs.

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I have read a general article stating that there are various techniques, but none were described.

grizzled bloom
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If it's not pre-applied paste, most people recommend just putting a pea-sized dot in the middle, but a "X" works well too

oblique crown
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Pea sized... hm.. Monster pea or I will get a pea from the market and use it as a template? 😛

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I have never installed CPUs... that's my issue.

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Or I just shouldn't overthink it and I will be fine.

grizzled bloom
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The worst that happens if you use too much is it gets messy and you have to clean it up later when you change the cooler

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It's hard to use too little if you use proper mounting pressure

oblique crown
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Thank you, in the worst scenario I will just go to a shop so they install my CPU only.

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I don't trust any shop because I had too many issues with laptops or PCs sent for simple things like cleaning.

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Because I was a lazy bum.

grizzled bloom
oblique crown
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Thank you very much. And let's pray 😄

grizzled light
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Am I allowed to send imgur links here?

elfin warren
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Need to be rank 3

grizzled light
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I see

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Well I'm not sure if my ram stick has wires sticking out of it or not

elfin warren
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Uhhhh

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It shouldn't

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Wires on ram aren't a thing

grizzled bloom
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DM me the picture

grizzled light
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Oh, ok lol

grizzled bloom
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I've never seen RAM with a wire though

eager shore
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i think they can also send pics in build chat

grizzled light
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Probably dust then

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Yeah, put it in and it's working fine, thank y'all

sacred pike
elfin warren
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what's the question

sacred pike
winged needle
sacred pike
winged needle
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It's simple really

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Also

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What does that have to do with ram

winged needle
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i missed that

sacred pike
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😆 These parts, 1.35 vs 1.45 voltage

elfin warren
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3600 CAS 14 is fast boi

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C16 is fine

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TBH

sacred pike
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Note:The G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL14 Memory operating voltage of 1.45 V exceeds the AMD Zen 3 CPU recommended maximum of 1.35 V+7% (1.444 V). This memory module may run at a reduced clock rate to meet the 1.35 V voltage recommendation, or may require running at a voltage greater than the AMD recommended maximum.

elfin warren
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Pay no attention to that

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It's fine

grizzled bloom
sacred pike
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Here's the warning on pc part picker I'm trying to refer to

elfin warren
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Yeah, forget it's there XD

sacred pike
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For real its no big deal??

elfin warren
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100%

sacred pike
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Cool thanks 😀

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Is it a theoretical heat issue?

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just for my own education

elfin warren
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No

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Just a random spec that PCPP picks up that it shouldn't

sacred pike
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Okie dokie!

white smelt
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Bruh I change my motherboard and this happens

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elfin warren
white smelt
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Lmao atleast I didn’t buy Microsoft Windows code

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Idk where I saved the code to

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Lol

elfin warren
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Ouch

white smelt
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Lol

elfin warren
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best to tie the OS to an email account

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Then you just sign back in and reactivate

white smelt
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Oh actually I might not be signed in

elfin warren
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Change the motherboard will always do this since the OS is tied to MB

white smelt
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Lemmie chek

elfin warren
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Yeah, try that

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Also try the Activation Troubleshooter

white smelt
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I did

elfin warren
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O

white smelt
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Ye nothing happen

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Probably cuz I paid $20 for a probably pirated key

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Lol

elfin warren
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Mebbe

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Now that you're signed in try the activation troubleshooter again

white smelt
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Just says “we weren’t able to activate windows on this device”

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Oh here

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I just changed hardware recently button

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Ther we go

noble rampart
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wait do you need a windows key if you have a Microsoft account?

grizzled bloom
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You at least need a key tied to your account

noble rampart
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ok

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If I am running a acc rn on a windows device, does that tie the acc to a windows key?

elfin warren
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There are specific steps for it

noble rampart
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ok

elfin warren
wheat halo
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Dont buy windows for 20$

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You can get it for 1$ on aliexpress

noble rampart
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my friend said he had an extra one (windows key)

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that he would let me use

winged needle
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this good ram?

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it's also on other websites like newegg of course

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b&h

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adorama

limber dragon
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yeah

vast meadow
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Yep

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Ballistix bae

winged needle
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cool

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ill get that then

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also

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my cpu came in the mail today

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i5-11400f

naive pendant
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Do imported mobos have an impact on your build, I live in Australia and imported a mobo from the US since it was 30 bucks cheaper, could this have a potential impact on my build or are motherboards universal

elfin warren
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They're universal

ionic hamlet
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A motherboard is a motherboard. Long as it's the right chipset for your CPU, doesn't matter what country it was shipped from.

naive pendant
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Ok

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Thanks

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And the SG13

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so weird quirk of the 1600AF i have is that it cannot handle the newer nm levels of ram speeds as it is a hybrid 1600 and 2600

vast meadow
naive pendant
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i.e. it has issues with ram speeds over a certain speed much like its first gen counterparts

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but it has better overall performance like its second gen counterpart

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its a but of a weird chip that i honestly shouldnt have jumped to

vast meadow
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Ahhh

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What's the max speed you can get?

naive pendant
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2.9

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i got a quad kit of 3200's sitting on my board that are not very well utilized atm

limber dragon
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||1600AF is just a worse bin 2600||

hollow thorn
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Thought it had Zen imc?

naive pendant
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it was spec at zen1

limber dragon
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1600AF are just 2600s that dont meet the "spec" of a 2600, and instead of being rejects, are labelled 1600AF (mainly for SIs who dont want to "upgrade" to a 2600 from a 1600)

high steeple
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@grizzled bloom

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Yoo

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Corsair doesn't have the rmx 750 w

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Gold

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In stock.

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They said they can give me the replacement for the rm 750 x.

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HX Series™ HX750 — 750 Watt 80 PLUS® PLATINUM Certified Fully Modular PSU (WW)

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With that one above ^

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Should I accept that replacement?

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Or wait til lthe rmx 750 is back in stock

grizzled bloom
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That's actually a better PSU, it has a switchable rail and better 80+ rating

high steeple
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Oh ok

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So I will tell me its good

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And send me that one.

grizzled bloom
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Definitely good

high steeple
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Thanks man

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Just wanted to make sure

grizzled bloom
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No problem
Wouldn't be the first time I'd seen a manufacturer do that if they were trying to pull a fast one and send a cheaper model, but Corsair is doing it right and sending you a unit that costs $20 more even with more features

high steeple
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Yea.

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And thats what makes them such a great company to work with.

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They care about their customers.

grizzled bloom
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Maybe. Best odds if they have the same IC (such as Micron Rev E). If they have different ICs it might still work but don't overclock them past XMP.

winged needle
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is that good for the i5-11400f

wheat halo
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No

wheat halo
winged needle
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Why

wheat halo
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No vrm cooling

winged needle
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what's that

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what is vrm cooling

wheat halo
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Voltage regulator module, the part of the mb that control the voltage

winged needle
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Well then send me a mb that has that that's under $150 usd

wheat halo
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ok will look some

winged needle
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intel mb

wheat halo
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There are better ones but this is a pretty cheap one i found

winged needle
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Ok

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So should I get that

wheat halo
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Your budget is 150 so let me try to find a better one

winged needle
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Ok

limber dragon
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You dont really need vrm cooling for a stock 11400f tbh

winged needle
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wdym stock

limber dragon
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Its not being overclocked

winged needle
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how do you even overclock anyways lol

wheat halo
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I cant realy find anything better for less then 150$

limber dragon
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You dont on a 11400f

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Its fine for the cpu

wheat halo
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You cant oc anyway on b560

winged needle
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lol when i got my cpu the entire box weight was the fan

limber dragon
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Only thing I'd think you might want is 4 dimm slots if you ever wanted to upgrade further down the line

wheat halo
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The asus one i sent should be fine then i guess

winged needle
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it also comes with the little m.2 slot cover :o

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lol

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ig ill just get that one

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i watched this video from 14 years ago on youtube

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of people overclocking an old ass intel cpu

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to like 4-5ghz

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with liquid nitrogen

limber dragon
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2600Ks did 5ghz on air cooling

winged needle
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Exactly

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Lmao

limber dragon
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That was like 2008-2010 era

lime quartz
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Mmmmm

opal locust
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im trying to find a white mobo under the 250 range for ATX

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any suggestions?

elfin warren
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what cpu

opal locust
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intel i5

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11th gen

wheat halo
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Do you realy need a 250 one?

elfin warren
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If it's white they might

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They're more expensive

opal locust
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yea

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which sucks

wheat halo
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I found a white one earlier i think

opal locust
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hmm which one

wheat halo
elfin warren
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That's silver......

wheat halo
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Yeah nvm

opal locust
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lmao

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its cool tho

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is asrock good

elfin warren
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Problem with the Asrock boards is that if you want to upgrade the CPU, they don't do so well with the higher end CPU's

opal locust
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hmm ok

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well this is gunna b my first build so

elfin warren
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And the steel legends are silver, not white

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And so are the Asus Prime boards

wheat halo
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Z490 good for you?

elfin warren
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Tehre's a problem with Z490

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They need BIOS update for 11th gen

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Flashback is almost non-existent with those :/

wheat halo
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oh ok

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There is the gigabyte vison g

elfin warren
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Yeah, ran into that a couple days ago here

wheat halo
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But fhe z590 cost 280

elfin warren
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Yeah

opal locust
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hmm

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yea

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im thinking asrock steel

winged needle
elfin warren
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Ya

winged needle
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👍

warm lance
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Why is the i3 10th gen cheaper than i3 9th?

hollow thorn
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@warm lance older generations get phased out and they stop producing them. Therefore, once they run out of stock, they'll be out of stock basically forever, so it's in the 3rd party seller's interest to price it higher.

warm lance
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I get it now

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Ty

hollow thorn
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:)

peak flax
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seeking opinions on CPU for new build. Ryzen 3950x vs 5950x vs something else. Every time I restart my project the whole world seems to have changed, and I need to choose the cpu before everything else. I thought I had settled on 5950x 16 core, but now that I restarted this project, either it is out of stock or price gauged. Here is a little on what the machine needs to do. (or not do) It will be a VM host and all real work will be performed on the VM's hosted. Unlikely more than 2 VMs will be active at any time. 1 of the VM's will be a code developer machine with visual studio, db server, and web hosting. 2 nvme mirrored drives for core os and a few other things. Raid 6 SSD (another card needed I think) for everything else except backup. It will have a graphics card with 2 display ports so not sure if built in graphics support is helpful. Not a gamer or video producer, so game / video benchmarks may not be as meaningful. A vm for personal use will almost always be active in addition to whatever other may be needed for the task at hand. (like connecting to my day job.). I have historically kept a machine 10 years before replacement.

elfin warren
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5900x

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Better single core performance for splitting into VM

peak flax
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newegg, bestbuy out of stock on 5900x.
Will 5900 vs 5950 vs 3950 make much difference to me 5-10 years from now
Should I just "settle" for the first non-price gouged cpu in that general class I can find, and wait till I get that in hand before shopping for mobo and the rest
Or is there a non-price gauged cpu in stock somewhere in the same processing and $value class as 5950x

elfin warren
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Yes

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3950x shouldnt be considered

winged needle
hollow thorn
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Your choice, just keep in mind top m.2 slot can't be used with 10th gen chips

winged needle
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i have an 11th gen cpu

hollow thorn
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then it's fine

winged needle
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ok

compact sun
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can someone please help me, got an msi z590 gaming edge wifi, tried to flash the bios from the msi program, now it just boots into bios and wont boot back into windows, and it didnt flash anything

vernal cosmos
crude beacon
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Are the auroras motherboards any good? The 570s that are usually bundled with the gigabyte gpus

compact sun
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oh, i think i got it 🙂

vernal cosmos
vernal cosmos
compact sun
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maybe after the flash, it

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'll see my 3rd m2 drive

crude beacon
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The 200 dollar ones

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Hold on

vernal cosmos
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You can grab a flash drive and another pc and drag and drop all the latest bios files onto it

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Make sure its formatted to fat32 tho

crude beacon
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Gigabyte X570 AORUS Elite

hollow thorn
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Has a downside of not many fan headers

vernal cosmos
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And plug it into back of ur pc and press the little button on the back to flash

crude beacon
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What does that mean?

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Can’t plug as many fans?

vernal cosmos
wheat halo
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You can have spliters or a hub

vernal cosmos
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You can get way more on with a fan splitter or hub tho

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So not really a problem

compact sun
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sighs it flashed that time but still keeps booting to bios

vernal cosmos
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I have the x570 aorus elite wifi and very happy with it

crude beacon
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CPU doesn’t count as one right

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CPU fan

vernal cosmos
compact sun
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ya, and it flashed

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but when it restarts it auto goes into bios

vernal cosmos
hollow thorn
crude beacon
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Hm I see thanks

vernal cosmos
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Almost all 3 packs of fans come with a splitter tho so shouldnt be a problem

vernal cosmos
hollow thorn
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it gets very annoying tho

crude beacon
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What about one that come with case

hollow thorn
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say you have 2 case fans

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those usually don't come with splitters

vernal cosmos
hollow thorn
compact sun
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boot priority is correct, anyone know how to get it to boot back to windows?

hollow thorn
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there's Corsair with their 30$+ fans in their 3 packs that come with a hub but that's Corsair with their 30$+ fans

crude beacon
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What if I got a 550 motherboard is there a big difference?

hollow thorn
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Most likely no

crude beacon
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I think I need more tan slots

vernal cosmos
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Cant generalise

hollow thorn
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..?

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tan?

crude beacon
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Fan

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What’s the big dif between 550 and 570 then

hollow thorn
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chipset wise

vernal cosmos
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Aorus elite fan cable management be like

vernal cosmos
wheat halo
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Just get a fan hub for 10$@crude beacon

vernal cosmos
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Fan and rgb headers are mobo based not chipset

crude beacon
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Yea maybe I’ll try that out

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Never build one before so don’t want to complicate things

vernal cosmos
hollow thorn
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@wheat halo annoying extra expense tho

hollow thorn
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:D

vernal cosmos
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Haha lmfao

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You dont wanna see the bottom part of my pc

hollow thorn
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hehe

vernal cosmos
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Looks pretty nais with the panel on tho

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Thats all that matters

naive pendant
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i cant go back from horizontal builds now

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i am forever having my stuff be sideways

vernal cosmos
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Wat?

naive pendant
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c u b e

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i find it to be more aesthetically pleasing

vernal cosmos
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Nice

hollow thorn
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Nr200p time

paper coral
naive pendant
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lemme see if i can get a better pic

pale mist
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MSI armor

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want

naive pendant
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i dont think you do

pale mist
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@naive pendant oh i do tho bud

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The market is a bombed out wasteland now

split copper
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don't you have a 570?

naive pendant
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its dieing and is a major source of instability

pale mist
naive pendant
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im debating still on taking the 1200 plunge on a prebuilt

split copper
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ok

pale mist
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I have a 290

naive pendant
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or if i should settle for a 970 or somethin

split copper
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970s aren't priced very nicely atm

naive pendant
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they arnt 1200+ tax

pale mist
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A 290 on its last legs

split copper
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might get better prices locally with classifieds

pale mist
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If you want something cheap

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950s on ali not bad

naive pendant
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man ive been lookin

pale mist
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And local

naive pendant
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not to start nothin but

pale mist
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Still 950s on ali

naive pendant
pale mist
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Olive man speaks reason

naive pendant
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amd is pissing on us with the apu's going to system integrator first

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deals or not

pale mist
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Eeh

split copper
pale mist
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AMD overrated anyway

naive pendant
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that would have been a good way to steimy the flow of people panic buying because of dying hardware

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because it woulda been an option

pale mist
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Honestly AMD hype so big that my phenoms are flying off the shelves

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Bc people think AMD=good

naive pendant
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it will be on the market when (dear god please) the market has started to catch back up

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my money is on late q3 early q4

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too late to make a splash

pale mist
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I hope it is

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Honestly forgot what the good times were like

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Just getting a 1050 is a struggle now

split copper
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anything that's labelled 1050 is just a GTS 450 with a janky cooler shroud bbnohappy

pale mist
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Yea whats with that

split copper
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China pepe6000

open briar
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not if you look for the right brands

pale mist
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Why just 1050s

split copper
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not if you look for any brand lol

open briar
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look for the brands that arent as popular 🤷‍♂️

split copper
#

the fake cards are usually 1050s, 1050tis, 750tis, 1060s on the listing

#

they're not actually branded

heavy helm
#

I'm an old fool and ordered 2 1050TIs direct from china. When I finally got them they were 450s with no onboard ram. I did get a refund.

split copper
#

well

#

good thing you got the refund peepoSadSip

limber dragon
#

how is there no vram?

heavy helm
#

there are 4 1 gig Hynix chips on the back of the card but gpu-z and system information list 0 ram. don't know if it's an error in reporting or what. I know the card won't put out 1080p

sand copper
#

im not building for probably a good couple months but i was looking at getting a 10400f, not sure what would be a good mobo for it. still gotta sell my optiplex (current) so i have enough money. I was looking at asrocky b460m pro4, not sure what makes a mobo good or not. the cheapest b560 board is out of budget.

grizzled bloom
sand copper
#

Sorry that I didnt respond earlier , had a dude dm me at same time so didn't see it. Which b560 board would you recommend?

#

Don't need WiFi

shy wyvern
#

Motherboard question I think? Is there any draw backs doing a 20 pin internal normal usb 3.1 to usb c internal adapter? Or should I get a pcie expansion card with the usb c internal port?

vernal cosmos
#

thats about it

shy wyvern
#

Oh

#

10Gb/s more than enough for me

last lynx
#

yo looking for a budget intel motherboard, i got a 10th gen i5, and i wanna fit an ssd in it, anyone got any recommendations, my budget is like 90 dollars to 100.

elfin warren
#

Need B560

#

Probs ASrock

#

B460 limits ram speed and performance a lot

last lynx
#

i only have 8 gigs of 2666mhz ram, would it be okay if i got yhe b460 then?

elfin warren
#

Should be on B560 with 3200 mhz ram

#

For that CPU

last lynx
#

but would it bottleneck that badly if i put it in a b560

#

i mean b460

elfin warren
#

A bit yeah

last lynx
#

ahh okay

strong wolf
#

Thoughts on getting MSI x570 tomahawk for 5800x cpu and 6800xt gpu? Never had a PC before, is MSI’s bios friendly compared to Asus or Gigabyte?

pliant charm
#

I have a Cyber power gaming pc i want to go from one slot 8ram to two slot 16 any suggestions on which ones to buy, want to stay cheapest but need some suggestions any one?

vast meadow
neon sigil
#

smallest case that supports an atx motherboard?

neon sigil
#

id say asus prolly the best but they all seem to be fine

strong wolf
hollow thorn
#

..?

#

outdated and faulty parts in their mobos....?

neon sigil
#

no

#

you can probably find isolated reviews like that for every manufacturer

#

i think asus is pretty good

silk ice
#

Hey how do I put the plastic socket cover for an intel mobo back on?

limber dragon
#

Close the latch and press the cover on

silk ice
#

ohhh thanks

#

for whatever reason that was a lot harder to figure out than it should have been

elfin warren
#

Ah reddit. Always good for a chuckle

naive pendant
#

reddit tends to hivemind things worse than 4chan when it comes to brands and products

limber dragon
#

your tubes on the aio are on the top, your pc's going to explode gnffs

strong wolf
elfin warren
naive pendant
#

fine and good

#

you could even run that on a b450 for all it really matters

vast meadow
hollow thorn
#

well

naive pendant
#

i mean

hollow thorn
#

depends on the board

naive pendant
#

maybe?

hollow thorn
#

anything above like a ds3h should take 5900x stock

naive pendant
#

i dont think im going to pay out for a 5900x on a mobo that cant do the special gpu thing

#

so

vast meadow
#

really? oh dam

hollow thorn
vast meadow
#

fair enough

naive pendant
#

for the average joe buying one of those is kinda

#

pointless?

hollow thorn
#

I have a b450 board and I want to stuff a 5900x in it >:(

naive pendant
#

there isnt really a performance gain on gaming and its far too expensive for a regular enthusiest pc

#

personally i wouldnt due to lack of support for its features

hollow thorn
#

what

naive pendant
#

yea it dont

#

afaik it dont

ember marten
#

if you don't have an AMD GPU to SAM with I wouldn't worry about it

vast meadow
hollow thorn
#

Latest bios for my b450 board, supports resizable bar

unknown.png
#

sam is only for b550/x570 and 6xxx GPUs anyways

ember marten
#

rebar is not very effective on nvidia

hollow thorn
#

meh, it's something

#

neither is worth much

vast meadow
#

looses perf most of time

naive pendant
#

ah

#

that was news to me

limber dragon
#

cpu bound scenarios it swaps

ember marten
#

Mostly because zen3 clocks much higher

naive pendant
#

Sounds like more of a budget thing there

#

And whats on sale

tepid iris
#

So I bought a h150i Elite capellix for i9 9900k and under 100% load Im hitting 80°. Any help? Ive put the fans at 100 and nothing

elfin warren
#

make sure pump is at 100% too

tepid iris
#

How @elfin warren

elfin warren
#

Whatever fan header it's plugged in to set it at 100%. Not sure how the Cappelix works, might be in the software too

tepid iris
#

Yeah put in extreme and still not really doing much

#

Not to mention put my other fans at 100% and barely does a thing other than being loud af

#

Literally biggest waste of money ever. My Thermalake was giving better temps than this garbage

heady trail
#

Hi all. Just got a new Asus z390m pro wifi, and can't get it to post, getting a RAM error beep. All components are confirmed working in my old z370 system, tried all ram slots with both one and two sticks.

Running i7 9700k, corsair vengeance rgb 2x8 3200, both listed as compatible everywhere, plus tried with my old working r sticks. I'd be surprised if all four ram slots were dead on arrival.

Any suggestions?

hollow thorn
#

Well, try single stick in A2 (Rightmost slot), and reset cmos, and see if that helps at all? @heady trail

heady trail
#

@hollow thorn yep, tried all that two, single stick in a2 and every other slot. Pulled cmos and jumpered to reset the clock, still no luck

#

Loosened the cpu heatsink too just in case of board flex, no change

hollow thorn
#

(A2 is the recommended slot for single stick according to the manual, so that's why I'm focused on that)

heady trail
#

Totally, been digging through the manual to see if I missed something

hollow thorn
#

Well, @heady trail I assume you've tried reseating the CPU? Maybe check if any pins on the mobo may be damaged?

heady trail
#

@hollow thorn yup, and even moved it back to the old z370 where it posted successfully. All pins on the new board appear uniform and undamaged

hollow thorn
#

Hm, weird.

heady trail
#

Yeah, I suspect its either some odd compatibility issue or perhaps a bios problem. I can't imagine a hardware fault would kill all ram slots uniformly but I suppose it's not impossible

hollow thorn
#

Yea, I would blame it on the board at the moment.

ashen thorn
#

5900x is now in stock on amazon. I just got the alert.

woven epoch
#

Noice

#

welp almost out of stock

#

Wait isn't it a bit inflated for such a price ? Msrp price for the 5900x is $560 right ?

magic dirge
#

Hi everyone. i currently have a Gigabyte 570 elite and a Asus 570 tuf gaming running 3900x cpu 64g ram, which Mobo is best for my set up? Thanks in advance.

hollow thorn
#

Uh?

#

@magic dirge so you own 2 different x570 boards and you want to just use one...?

magic dirge
#

The Asus is 3 Months old the Gigabyte was won in the Shuffle with a GPU

#

From what I read they are kinda close but the Gigabyte seemed to be better for the 3900x, I was looking to see if I was wrong or should just keep the old MoBo

hollow thorn
#

Which exact Asus board, x570-plus?

magic dirge
#

yes

hollow thorn
#

VRM wise, the x570-plus is actually better than the x570 aorus elite, and the aorus elite is annoying for not having many fan headers

vernal cosmos
#

the aorus looks cooler tho

#

but with a 3900x you need the better vrms

hollow thorn
#

(it had only 2 chassis fan headers, annoying :p)

elfin warren
#

Tuf good board. I have it. Not the prettiest tho

vernal cosmos
hollow thorn
#

@vernal cosmos not really, I'm talking better in the realm of 3950x oc power pull

#

Not if you use aio

vernal cosmos
#

Ahhhh that makes sense

hollow thorn
#

And 3900x makes some sense with aio

magic dirge
#

Yeah no pretty but it runs real

#

yeah she runs hot

hollow thorn
#

My early sample 3800x can barely be kept cool with a d15 soo

Oh well

vernal cosmos
#

Im talking about my setup tbh. I have the elite wifi and its very easily solved wth the splitter things

hollow thorn
#

And that's why it's not the end of the world, and I said "annoying" not unusable or anything :p

vernal cosmos
#

my 3600X does 4.4 all core at 1.28V and remains 85C or so full core on a 212

hollow thorn
#

My 3800x is like 2 month into launch

vernal cosmos
#

I got really lucky with the chip ngl

hollow thorn
#

Early sample are crap

#

Mines week 31 2019

magic dirge
#

I never see over 75c with aio and 5 case fans

vernal cosmos
#

I had a crap chip which died on me. The one I have rn is the replacement amd sent my way

#

Last december is when I got it

hollow thorn
#

Though, I was putting 1.375v into it and it was smallfft

#

BUT 105c is not nice for any chip

vernal cosmos
hollow thorn
#

Ofc

#

I was testing for OCing

vernal cosmos
#

I see

hollow thorn
#

Trying to figure out what's the highest stable freq I could get for cinebench runs

#

Gave up after I saw the temp

#

I did repaste and remount, same result

magic dirge
#

Thats for y'alls input. ill stick with the old Asus

hollow thorn
#

:)

vernal cosmos
#

wasnt the 3800x really bad value tho?

hollow thorn
#

Ofc

#

I got it for the same price as 3700x

#

Except it ran worse than 3700x's
XD

#

Needs like 1.375v just to do 4.3ghz nowadays

bright dune
#

Hey guy!
When changing motherboards, do I need to reinstall Windows or can I just insert the same M.2 w/Windows already installed?

hollow thorn
#

Well, windows might throw a fit sometimes, you can bind the key to your Microsoft account and re-activate windows if necessary

magic dirge
#

windows is attached to the M.2. The MoBo dosnt have enough storage.

#

I would download new driver for the new Mobo

bright dune
#

@magic dirge You're confusing me.
I'm saying that I currently have Windows 10 installed on my M.2 and I'm building a new system with new everything.
My question is, can I take the M.2 SSD which has Windows 10 OS from my old build and insert it in the new build (New Motherboard) w/o having to reinstall windows?

silk ice
#

You should be able to just swap the m.2 to the new motherboard

magic dirge
#

yes, the OS is on your M.2. What ever you plug that into you will have all your data and OS on that

silk ice
#

However you may have windows get angry with you and it may need to be reactivated if it deactivates itself (which it isn't guaranteed to do)

bright dune
#

Thanks guys!

silk ice
#

Windows tends to be very finicky about what it considers a new computer

magic dirge
#

Windows is trying to go cloud with all keys so if its registered you shouldnt have an issue

silk ice
#

Oh really? I didn't know that

magic dirge
#

yeah, it works 50 50. mostly if you reformat from windows settings the cloud works great

vernal cosmos
#

Some keys are single use and oem keys dont usually transfer at all

#

Also only keys with a Microsoft account linked to them in settings do that

#

I personally had to run the reactivation troubleshooter a little less than a month back even tho my key is tied to my Microsoft account after I updated the bios and oced my ram

silk ice
#

Also if you're a student there's a solid chance you can get a free or heavily discounted key from your university. Ik I got a windows 10 pro license for free from my university

vernal cosmos
#

That also usually doesn’t carry over

silk ice
#

I just meant if you can't reuse the old one as a student you may be able to get a new license for free

devout mothBOT
#
Statt#2993 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

naive pendant
#

No?

elfin warren
#

Oopsie

#

Yo swapped a u for I in a bad way LMAO

#

I gotchu, hang on

#

I shut down during the setup stage after it posted and shut off the psu, powered up again and now it’s just a black screen flashing a command line dash. I didn’t do something wrong did I? Last time I remember it’s safe to shut down anytime when not writing data

naive pendant
#

^^

#

Thanks

elfin warren
#

Save you all that typing lol

#

You interrupted a Windows install?

#

Or never installed windows?

naive pendant
#

No, so it’s a brand new build. All new cpu etc. I posted, and it was like new cpu and mobo detected blah blah blah, would you like to enter setup mode? Which I’m assuming would take me to the bios boot order. But I shutdown to resecure my psu because I forgot a cable before hand. Turned it back on and now it only shows a black screen with a flashing dash

#

And I’m typing it here because I’m assuming it has to do with the bios

#

Nevermind got it. It was the bootloader. Just had to enter bios

elfin warren
#

Noice!!!

azure pulsar
#

can anyone recommend me some good rgb ram (preferably white) for around $100-120?
16gb 2x8
i have a 5600X

vital field
#

@azure pulsar

azure pulsar
#

ty!

wintry scarab
finite elm
#

Dunno if any of y'all are in Minnesota, but microcenter has Ryzen 9 5900x's in stock. Sadly for a bit above msrp

vast meadow
#

Isn't it supposed to be 550? Good bit above msrp

finite elm
#

Ye

#

Seeing this made me glad i snatched up a 5950x when i saw it.

#

For msrp at 799 lol

vast meadow
#

Nice

silk ice
#

love to see a 5900x bundled with a $55 psu I definitely trust that🙄

#

I feel like bundling that psu with a 5900x is essentially them just selling the 5900x for $600 knowing most people will probably toss that psu

vast meadow
silk ice
#

That makes sense but this is just an Antec 550W psu, I wouldn't think they would have any association with amd

#

it's literally 80+ not bronze just 80+

vast meadow
#

Well the distributor might have a hard time selling that model tho? Not amd like

#

But idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯

silk ice
#

oh I see what you mean

vague siren
#

I mean its not too expensive

silk ice
#

I thought you meant like gigabyte was going "sell this with my psu you can't sell" not the distributor

vast meadow
vague siren
#

Yeah it really shouldnt it should be with a mobo or something

vast meadow
silk ice
#

Yea its a crappy situation though because like it shouldn't be used so it's literally probably ewaste but at the same time if I really needed a 5900x an extra $55 to get one would probably be worth it.

vast meadow
#

Yeah exactly

silk ice
vast meadow
#

Yep :/

#

Think the vid was about a week or 2 ago

silk ice
vague siren
#

They probably have a better resell value than psus tho

vast meadow
#

Def^

#

But still not gonna get the whole mobo amount back

vague siren
#

Again if you really need the chip it doesnt matter much

silk ice
#

I mean look at the Asrock RX6800XT they have bundled with an $800 eATX mobo. Some of the mobo's are already hard to sell even at a discount.
But you are right though selling mobo's actually has value a lot of people won't touch a used psu

vast meadow
#

Yikes

vague siren
#

Oof yeah

silk ice
#

Or the other day they had a 3060 paired with one of those 360Hz rog monitors that was more expensive than the gpu itself

vague siren
#

Marketing ya know

silk ice
#

I'm happy I managed to get my parts but geez at some point some small part of you has to question at what point these bundles just become outright malicious.

vague siren
#

Yeah

silk ice
#

What can I say other than we live in a society

vast meadow
# silk ice What can I say other than we live in a society

I'm guessing the people that pick those bundles are people that would have possibly payed scalper prices but doesn't wanna buy from a scalper and will try resell the mobo for like 250 300$ or just leave it in their storage as a spare

vague siren
#

It was actually changed with a phanteks case

silk ice
vast meadow
#

And not supporting scalpers

silk ice
#

That too

shy wyvern
#

Gonna ask it here since general chat is a million miles an hour now

#

This is so stuck

#

That I think it's in there tighter than the connection of the port to the board.

#

How does one solve this

vast meadow
#

i guess just wiggle and try

shy wyvern
#

I've wiggled so hard but like

#

I could lift

#

The entire desktop

#

By that thing

vast meadow
#

oof

shy wyvern
#

Yeah tf do I doooo

#

I can't get my cable cover (which has my 1tb sata ssd on it) over the cable

#

So I gotta switch it with my other usb 3

vague siren
#

Pry against it with a flathead screwdriver or something

shy wyvern
#

YOURE A GENIUS

#

To the Ifixit kit!

silk ice
#

just be very careful;

shy wyvern
#

Oh I know

#

I killed a laptop with a screw driver before

#

Scratched one of the cpu-memory traces

vague siren
#

Make sure you are well seated on the plastic of the connecters and you should be fine

shy wyvern
#

I took it to a friend who soldered a new connection and it worked fine

silk ice
#

Not with a screwdriver but the worst I've done is kills a usb 3 header on a motherboard because I couldn't get the stupid connector out. I hate those things

shy wyvern
#

If this works, then jay was right, Ifixit fixes everything

vague siren
#

Lol

shy wyvern
#

Yeah tyler these things are stronger than my last relationship

silk ice
#

jk jk jk

silk ice
vague siren
#

I remember last time i tried removing the motherboard 21 pin?

silk ice
#

24 pin but yes those can be annoying too

vague siren
#

I had to wiggle it out quite a bit

shy wyvern
#

Fun fact my motherboard 24 pin lifts up my desktop

#

And it weighs 17 pounds lol

vague siren
#

Ah yes 24 alright

shy wyvern
#

I literally have to add another 20 pounds of force with my other hand

#

To get that thing to come out

#

Msi makes the ports on this thing too tight

#

The cpu pins even give me trouble

silk ice
#

my issue with the usb 3 header was jsut there was nowhere safe to grip it so I just kept wiggling it and hoped it would come out but when I heard the snapping noise I knew it was done for

shy wyvern
#

Wtf it came lose then got sucked back in

#

???

silk ice
#

OOF

shy wyvern
#

Usb 3 headers don't have clips though

#

Tf is giving it enough force to suck back in

vague siren
#

oof

silk ice
#

Maybe the way the cable has shaped itself over the years is trying to push it back in?

shy wyvern
#

Tyler

#

I plugged it in

#

13 minutes ago

vague siren
#

you gotta pry and take another screwdriver and jam it better

silk ice
#

oh I didn't know that lol

vague siren
#

oof

silk ice
#

I thought this was old

shy wyvern
#

Yeah I just bought this adapter

#

Realized it wouldn't work horizontally

#

"Oh I'll just move it to my vertical 19 pin, exists for a reason"

silk ice
#

What port even is that?

shy wyvern
#

Usb 3 to internal type c

silk ice
#

ahh

shy wyvern
#

My purchase 500dx has a usb c port

#

"Usb type e"

#

Idk why

#

There's a billion usb headers

#

What irks me

#

Is the pin layout IS THE SAME

naive pendant
#

is the gigaybyte b450m ds3h v2 good enough? for gaming

shy wyvern
#

Depends on cpu

silk ice
#

what cpu?

naive pendant
#

ryzen 5 3600

shy wyvern
#

Yeah that should be finr

#

Just be wary that those vrms aren't gonna boost higher end cpus well

#

I'm running into that issue

silk ice
#

Yea should work well as long as it has the right ports you want I'll glance over the mobo real quick to see if there's anything of note I see

shy wyvern
#

I want a 9900k but my vrms are gonna hate that

meager flax
#

what intel cpu will work well with a RTX 3070?

shy wyvern
#

They hit 87 degrees with an 8600k at 5ghz 1.36V

naive pendant
#

:----|:----|:----
CPU | [AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor]
Motherboard | [Gigabyte B450M DS3H V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard]
Memory | [G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory](
Case | [Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case]
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $539.46

#

is this good enough?

#

i have everything else

silk ice
#

looking into it a little more but looks like that board has almost no fan headers you might need to keep that in mind

shy wyvern
#

Slanted, that chip has no iGPU

#

What gpu are you using?

naive pendant
#

1650

shy wyvern
#

Oh then you're fine

#

The pcie slots don't look reinforced

naive pendant
#

is that what u mean

shy wyvern
#

Chonky cards can mess them up

#

FFS COME OUT

#

I wonder if my 9mm will get it lose epiclaugh

silk ice
#

That motherboard only has 1 cpu fan header and 1 case fan header. looks like your case only includes 1 fan so you'll have enough headers but if you wanted to put any intake fan or anything in the case you would need to buy a fan controller. I might reccommend looking at another mobo with maybe more fan headers if there are others in the price range. But if you think you'll never add any more fans it is ok as it

naive pendant
#

can u get another mobo that has thatt cause my build rn im swapping parts ver

#

over

shy wyvern
#

Slantid So many people are also upgrading to 4th gen ryzen that there's plenty of cheap boards on the used market

#

If you don't mind used

#

I'd look at that

silk ice
#

Yea what's your price range for the motherboard?

naive pendant
#

80$

shy wyvern
#

I got my z370 board used for $71 3 years ago. You can find decent deals.

#

I can help you look tyler once I get this damn usb 3 port out

#

Heccin MOVE

naive pendant
#

okay

#

im upgrading from a i5 4460 lolol

#

this cpu bottlenecks me hard

shy wyvern
#

4th gens i5 still have a bit of a kick to them

naive pendant
#

it was doing good with my 1060

#

but not doing good with my 1650

shy wyvern
#

My favorite thing rn is getting 4th gen i5 optiplexes and putting gtx 1050 2gb in them and giving them to friends and family as esports machines

silk ice
shy wyvern
#

Literally haven't been able to find a 3070

#

Was gonna upgrade

#

But a Series S in December instead

silk ice
#

Shuffle was how I got mine entered daily for about 4months for anything under $800

shy wyvern
#

Figured I'd upgrade my xbox one since I couldn't upgrade my 2060

#

My xbox one needed it

#

2013 model. I did use it as a capture card though, still need to buy one

#

Tyler look it's lose

#

I'm afraid

#

It's gonna be sucked in again

naive pendant
#

do you guys think i can flip a 1650

#

in canada

shy wyvern
#

Yeah

naive pendant
#

i got it for 280

#

how much would i sell it for

#

its brand new

shy wyvern
#

One of my friends in Montreal just sold his for $340 USD (forgot the canadian dollar amount)

naive pendant
#

he probably got like 400 cad

shy wyvern
#

I'm scared it's gonna get sucked back in thler

#

Tyler*

silk ice
shy wyvern
#

Nah

#

Just keep in mind slantid

#

Those vrms will not do more than 6 cores

hollow thorn
#

B450m pro4 is fine

shy wyvern
#

And that pcie slot is not reinforced

#

But if you're just doing a 3600

#

Seems fine to me

hollow thorn
#

It'll handle up to like a 3700x with some headroom

#

3900x stock barely

shy wyvern
#

I've had b450m boards throttle the 3700x boost speeds if I didn't manually set the clocks

#

He also has only 1 case fan

#

So those vrms gonna be nice and warm

#

Still no where near the 175 watts I'm pulling from my cpu though. My poor vrms.

#

TYLER ITS OUT

silk ice
#

ayyyy

shy wyvern
#

The port isn't lose either

silk ice
#

awesome

shy wyvern
#

I hope the adapter if fine

#

I probably put about 80 pounds of force on it

#

I literally had to rest on my case because I was pulling it up and over lol

#

Putting it into a 15 watt usb 3 port won't fry it, right?

#

I have a "fast charge port"

#

I can set it back to standard usb 3

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Which is 7.5 I believe

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1500mA?

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Idk this port does 3,000 with quick charge enabled, I don't wanna fry the adapter

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I should've probably asked this before I plugged it in-

hollow thorn
shy wyvern
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Ah

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Mine was a b450m tuf

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That I built for my ex

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Thing would NOT push 3700x clocks

silk ice
hollow thorn
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Nah, what you can do is use the master list, find the components, and compare with a similarly configured vrm.

silk ice
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Ah ok

shy wyvern
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It works!

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Finally no more dead usb c port

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Stupid motherboard and stupid usb standards

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I needed this because I don't own any 3.5mm jack headphones, they're all usb c

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My laptop has usbc headphone port

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My switch uses them

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My phone uses them

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Now I can finally be at peace

silk ice
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nice

naive pendant
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lol

lavish vortex
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After months of waiting for a 5900x I caved and got a 5800x

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hollow thorn
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Nice

silk ice
keen vortex
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I'm building my PC tonight and i'm trying to get my BIOS update ready

I have an AORUS B550 Elite v2 motherboard and I'm using a 5600x, how do I flash the bios?

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I have a 64gb flashdrive that is in exFAT format

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and also should I update the bios before or after i put everything together

limber dragon
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need fat32 for bios

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best bet would be to open the drive partition manager and make a small fat32 partition (probably needs less than 1gb) to put the bios on, so that your motherboard can read it

silk ice
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Yea I think for msi the cap is 8gb partition but I could be wrong

keen vortex
silk ice
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do you have anything else on the flashdrive or is it empty?

limber dragon
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search "partition" in windows

silk ice
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can't you jsut reformat it?

limber dragon
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fat32 has a max size of 32gb

silk ice
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ah ok

limber dragon
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you can also right click the start button and click disk managment

keen vortex
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can i format it NFTS? or does it have to be fat32?

main pulsar
naive pendant
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what's the diff between b560 pro4 or steel legend?

elfin warren
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That's a good board with onboard wifi

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I'd say so

vernal cosmos
naive pendant
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can i put this into my motherboard still?

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the legs snapped off

warm path
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Welp rip

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Other legs can be inserted but Cooling would be compromised

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You need pressure from all four legs for optimized cooling otherwise you’ll suffer from thermal issues

finite elm
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With that price i would have gone with a 5800x as well tbh.

vast meadow
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At 150 over msrp not worth

finite elm
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Ye

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Go with a 5950x at that point lol. For 100$ more.

vast meadow
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Yep well if you can find one

elfin warren
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oof

finite elm
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I got one. Saw it was in stock. Still gotta wait to get home to use it though 🙄

vast meadow
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If you cant use why not wait for a normal priced one?

finite elm
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4 ½ more months until I get home

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No i got a 5950x for msrp

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Had my sister pick it up from me when I saw there was like 16 in stock. They have been out of stock since lol

vast meadow
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Ohhh

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Nice

finite elm
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Ye. Wasn't gonna pass that up 😅 my sister lives close to microcenter so I keep an eye on GPU's and I peek at the CPU's occasionally.

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Waiting for a 3080 or 3090

vast meadow
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Nice

broken onyx
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Can I ask what your guys's thoughts are on the 5600x vs 11400f?

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Does the 11400 really perform as well as people say it does for its price point?

elfin warren
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5600x has the edge overall but for the money 11400F is fantastic at $200

vast meadow
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11400 better value also 11400 same price as 11400f or like 5$ diff and you get an igpu if you need to debug or something

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As long as you remove the stock intel limits on your board(if enabled by default) it's pretty close stock is a bit meh

broken onyx
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Yeah, even if the 5600 or 5800 is a bit better overall, that's a massive savings

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But I also play a lot of games that are so dependent on single core performance

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But the 11400 is already such a huge jump for me 🤔

vast meadow
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Imo you're better off getting 11400 and keeping the 100$ ish diff (if you can find one at that price) or putting it towards something like a better gpu if you're upgrading because the prices on them have gone stonks

broken onyx
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Of course none of this matters if I win a shuffle and my choice of processor is decided for me in a shuffle combo 👍

vast meadow
broken onyx
elfin warren
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One or the other, not both

broken onyx
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Yeah, so I'll probably hold out on starting anything until I get my grubby hands on a GPU

elfin warren
silk ice
broken onyx
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I remember the innocent days of being a teenager scrimping and scrapping for money for a build, used components bought off eBay sitting in my room, having nothing but faith they will even work when the components are assembled

silk ice
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I mean my parts are all new so while I'm outside of returns I'm within warranty. It's just a lot less ideal since it's longer

wintry scarab
broken onyx
wintry scarab
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Yep

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Now it's just, oh, 3k for a 3090 strix? I suppose......

rigid hemlock
wintry scarab
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eBay bids back in Jan

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Now for the long haul, i give it 5 years

naive pendant
hollow thorn
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Likely, missing one of the legs for mounting pressure means losing performance on an already weak cooling solution.

naive pendant
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alright

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is this good enough?

hollow thorn
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uh

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what's your budget?

naive pendant
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i only got 50$

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rn

hollow thorn
naive pendant
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alright i’ll get that one

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thanks

silk ice
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When was the last time the 212 was actually relevant? I feel like even buying a cooler several years ago I was being reccomended a bunch of coolers that were better for the money

hollow thorn
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a decade

silk ice
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lol

vast meadow
# naive pendant

Id cooling se 224xt gammaxx 400 or vetroo v5 all 25-35$ perform better than 212 evo

naive pendant
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k that’s good i asked before buying right away

vast meadow
naive pendant
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for comparing to a stock cooler

hollow thorn
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a decade since it was relevant for a choice to buy

naive pendant
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5$ prism off ebay > 30$ 212

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so, I am having a hard time figuring out the 11th gen intel stuff.

I am trying to figure out the highest end desktop chip they sell with the new integrated XE graphics (IGPU).

I am building a small PC, I don't need anything more than an IGPU right now, and the XE graphics appear to be outperforming the AMD units at this time.

elfin warren
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anything 11500 or better

hollow thorn
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Basically, 11400 and below has UHD730, everything 11500 and above has UHD750

livid sparrow
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Worth the giggles when I made my first build effectively a display build when I upgraded, I even replaced the original 212 I had with the black version kekw

hollow thorn
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also, afaik, AMD still has intel beat on integrated graphics

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esp with 4750g and 4650g

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and the incoming zen 3 apus

vast meadow
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Unfortunately 4750g and 4650g where oem only tho

hollow thorn
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was on amazon for a bit

naive pendant
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4750g looks like it is NOT beating out the 1185g7 according to cpu monkey, quick google search

hollow thorn
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uh

naive pendant
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are the 11500+ desktop?

hollow thorn
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we talking about iGPU or CPU

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and we're talking about desktop

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4750g cpu is decent, but the iGPU is where it shines

naive pendant
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Well, I can either go with a mobile chip and do a nuc (don't care the box is going to be a ps1 box all cut up)

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or I can do a mini itx

hollow thorn
livid sparrow
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...Why do you have a PS1 box uh

naive pendant
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old gutted ps1