#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 194

subtle lava Apr 12, 2021, 5:33 PM

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my memory xmp is not compatible with my mobo

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rip extra money on 3600

hollow thorn Apr 12, 2021, 5:33 PM

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you what

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what mobo

subtle lava Apr 12, 2021, 5:33 PM

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z590 pro

hollow thorn Apr 12, 2021, 5:33 PM

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what cpu

subtle lava Apr 12, 2021, 5:33 PM

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11700k

hollow thorn Apr 12, 2021, 5:34 PM

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okay mobo compatibility is 98% not the issue

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if it just doesn't work, most likely ram issue

subtle lava Apr 12, 2021, 5:34 PM

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msi said its not compatible

hollow thorn Apr 12, 2021, 5:34 PM

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z590 doesn't limit ram freq, Intel imc usually good

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lmao

subtle lava Apr 12, 2021, 5:34 PM

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unless the guy has no idea

hollow thorn Apr 12, 2021, 5:34 PM

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qvl only lists so many sticks

grizzled bloom Apr 12, 2021, 5:35 PM

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If you're just looking at the QVL that's not a complete list of everything that will work, that's only a list of things they've tried and guarantee will work

hollow thorn Apr 12, 2021, 5:35 PM

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yea

subtle lava Apr 12, 2021, 5:35 PM

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hollow thorn Apr 12, 2021, 5:36 PM

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ya, QVL is only what they check

grizzled bloom Apr 12, 2021, 5:36 PM

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That just means "we can't promise it will work, so we can't support that"

subtle lava Apr 12, 2021, 5:36 PM

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oh

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but mine doesnt work i enable xmp

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i just get a black screen

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people said its bios but there is no bios update yet :/

grizzled bloom Apr 12, 2021, 5:37 PM

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It doesn't appear to be any crazy timings either, just a standard Corsair 3600C18 kit

hollow thorn Apr 12, 2021, 5:37 PM

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ya

subtle lava Apr 12, 2021, 5:37 PM

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is the ram defective of something

hollow thorn Apr 12, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Intel imc usually good too

subtle lava Apr 12, 2021, 5:37 PM

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or just bios thing

hollow thorn Apr 12, 2021, 5:37 PM

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z590 pretty early, but I haven't heard any issues yet though

grizzled bloom Apr 12, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Try using one stick at a time

subtle lava Apr 12, 2021, 5:37 PM

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or is not enough power being given to ram

hollow thorn Apr 12, 2021, 5:38 PM

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xmp should set soc voltage iirc

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ofc it should set dram voltage

subtle lava Apr 12, 2021, 5:38 PM

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I am gonna assume its bios update then

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which they havent released

grizzled bloom Apr 12, 2021, 5:39 PM

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grizzled bloom Try using one stick at a time

^ Try XMP, one stick at a time

hollow thorn Apr 12, 2021, 5:39 PM

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yea try that

subtle lava Apr 12, 2021, 5:39 PM

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I did still didnt work

hollow thorn Apr 12, 2021, 5:39 PM

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if one stick is dum and one stick is good

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welp

grizzled bloom Apr 12, 2021, 5:39 PM

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You can manually input the timings

hollow thorn Apr 12, 2021, 5:39 PM

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manual freq+timings+voltage time

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3600mhz, 18-22-22-22-42, secondary can be auto, 1.1v soc, 1.4v dram, that should do it

grizzled bloom Apr 12, 2021, 5:40 PM

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There's several tools that will read the XMP data for you to input, such as thaiphoon burner

subtle lava Apr 12, 2021, 5:41 PM

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so I should change it from auto to that speed?

grizzled bloom Apr 12, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Yes, everything else can be auto

hollow thorn Apr 12, 2021, 5:41 PM

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yea or just copy xmp

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though xmp sometimes gets wack

hardy moon Apr 12, 2021, 7:03 PM

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hollow thorn z590 pretty early, but I haven't heard any issues yet though

Couldn’t oc past 48x multiplier with mine until I updated bios and some don’t have updates yet

subtle lava Apr 12, 2021, 7:23 PM

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z590 pro doesnt yet

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 12:42 AM

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should i upgrade ram ?

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it currently has this one

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Origin: SMBIOS
Type: DDR4
Manufacturer: Hynix/Hyundai
Maximum Speed: 2400 MT/s
Current Speed: 933 MT/s
Size: 8192 MB
Part number: HMA81GS6AFR8N-UH

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@shrewd yoke

shrewd yoke Apr 13, 2021, 12:44 AM

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dunno if you tagged me on accident but how many gb and what cpu

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 12:45 AM

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its a laptop to be specific a ThinkPad A475 with an amd proA12

shrewd yoke Apr 13, 2021, 12:46 AM

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8gb?

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 12:46 AM

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yup

shrewd yoke Apr 13, 2021, 12:46 AM

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can you upgrade or is the ram soldered on

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 12:46 AM

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it isnt soldered it has 2 slots

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one of them is currently occupied by this one

shrewd yoke Apr 13, 2021, 12:47 AM

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id add one more stick of 8gb

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that the first thing i did with my laptop, bought another stick of ram

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 12:47 AM

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yup but i am looking for a one that my computer is compatible and its in the range of 700mxn

shrewd yoke Apr 13, 2021, 12:49 AM

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one on amazon is about 100 over budget

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789

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 12:50 AM

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eh

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still good enough

shrewd yoke Apr 13, 2021, 12:50 AM

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https://www.amazon.com.mx/Timetec-PC4-19200-Hynix-DDR4-computadora/dp/B07FF92ND3/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_es_MX=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=MN0SBC040UVR&dchild=1&keywords=sodimm+ddr4+8gb+2400mhz&qid=1618275020&sprefix=sodimm%2Caps%2C231&sr=8-2

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dnno if they ship to u tho

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 12:50 AM

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thank you

shrewd yoke Apr 13, 2021, 12:51 AM

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np

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 12:51 AM

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it says it has shipping cost but ignoring importation

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eh i have a relative that has amazon prime so imma become a LEECH

shrewd yoke Apr 13, 2021, 12:54 AM

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thats how it's usually

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i have prime and my siblings send me stuff to order

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 12:54 AM

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but i have a question

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is it going to impact noticeably games?

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 12:55 AM

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what?

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 12:55 AM

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buying ram

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 12:55 AM

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how much more

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 12:55 AM

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8gb to make 16gb

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 12:56 AM

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ok

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whats ur cpu amd or intel

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 12:56 AM

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amd proA12 with integrated graphics

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 12:56 AM

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whats the spped or ram?

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 12:57 AM

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2400 Mhz

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 12:57 AM

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thats good

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what games u runnin?

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 12:57 AM

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not much

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 12:57 AM

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what is the most demanding

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?

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 12:58 AM

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minecraft, tf2, fallout 3 and new vegas, M.A.X, sid meiers alpha centaury

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planning on buying halo mcc or g mod

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 12:59 AM

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well its complicated... so you can have much more tabs open and if your games use a lot of ram unlike minecraft which uses like 1 gb you will have much more room for mods and games that need a lot of ram

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overall it will not make that much of a difference in games that dont need a lot of ram

shrewd yoke Apr 13, 2021, 1:00 AM

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with your system, you may notice some improvements but idk how much

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 1:00 AM

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but in games where 8 gb is not enough it will benifit somewhat

shrewd yoke Apr 13, 2021, 1:00 AM

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feel like you gpu will be bottlenecking

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 1:00 AM

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it isnt a gpu it is a APU

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but yes i kinda get what you mean

shrewd yoke Apr 13, 2021, 1:01 AM

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i think it should help a decent amount

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it helped in my case both on pc and laptop

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 1:01 AM

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apu is gpu/ cpu combo i think

shrewd yoke Apr 13, 2021, 1:01 AM

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ye it is

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apus usually benefit from more/fast ram

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 1:01 AM

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especially amd cpus

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 1:02 AM

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so yup imma buy this one but never heard of the brand , is it good enough?

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 1:02 AM

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and i think the apu needs to use some ram for the gpu part of it too

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link?

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 1:02 AM

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https://www.amazon.com.mx/Timetec-PC4-19200-Hynix-DDR4-computadora/dp/B07FF92ND3/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_es_MX=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=MN0SBC040UVR&dchild=1&keywords=sodimm+ddr4+8gb+2400mhz&qid=1618275020&sprefix=sodimm%2Caps%2C231&sr=8-2

Timetec Hynix IC 8GB DDR4 2400MHz PC4-19200 Unbuffered Non-ECC 1.2V...

Timetec Hynix IC 8GB DDR4 2400MHz PC4-19200 Unbuffered Non-ECC 1.2V CL17 1Rx8 Single Rank 260 Pin SODIMM Laptop Notebook Computer Memory RAM Module Upgrade (8GB): Amazon.com.mx: Electrónicos

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 1:03 AM

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the reviews look good

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5 stars

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should be fine

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 1:03 AM

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ok

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and this would be a silly question but how may i change the porfiles between apps like in game just switch to max performance and while on discord or other apps on power saving/discrete

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 1:05 AM

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hmmm idk

shrewd yoke Apr 13, 2021, 1:05 AM

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im not sure either

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 1:05 AM

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shall we call wideus?

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 1:05 AM

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idk

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i asked 4 help

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 1:06 AM

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what do you say lance?

shrewd yoke Apr 13, 2021, 1:07 AM

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vintage is big brain

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 1:08 AM

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vintage racer?

shrewd yoke Apr 13, 2021, 1:08 AM

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yup

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 1:08 AM

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@elfin warren helpppppppppppp

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arakso asked this and we are dumb

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and this would be a silly question but how may i change the porfiles between apps like in game just switch to max performance and while on discord or other apps on power saving/discrete

eternal helm Apr 13, 2021, 1:12 AM

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marble knot and this would be a silly question but how may i change the porfiles between app...

nvidia or radeon?

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 1:13 AM

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idk

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aryasko asked not me

eternal helm Apr 13, 2021, 1:13 AM

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o

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 1:13 AM

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he has an amd apu

heavy arrow Apr 13, 2021, 1:13 AM

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so while playing games

eternal helm Apr 13, 2021, 1:13 AM

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ok

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so use adrenaline software

heavy arrow Apr 13, 2021, 1:13 AM

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you wanna have high perfomance

eternal helm Apr 13, 2021, 1:13 AM

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super easy to set up

heavy arrow Apr 13, 2021, 1:13 AM

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and while using discord low?

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@marble knot

marble knot Apr 13, 2021, 1:14 AM

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i think thats what @low radish wants

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i dont need that i just reapeted it b/c so u didnt have to scroll up a lot

heavy arrow Apr 13, 2021, 1:14 AM

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you can use this app called

eternal helm Apr 13, 2021, 1:14 AM

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i can help tehm

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i have a radeon gpu aswell

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and i have game profiles set up

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so just ping me once they get back

heavy arrow Apr 13, 2021, 1:15 AM

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same

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st ping me once they get back

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hehe

lime quartz Apr 13, 2021, 1:18 AM

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mmmm

elfin warren Apr 13, 2021, 1:25 AM

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This is why arctics offset aio mount works so well. Centers the coldnplate on the dies

pale mist Apr 13, 2021, 1:52 AM

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So I know that single channel RAM is a sin

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But on 4th gen i7s does it affect performance a considerable amount?

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I know its worst on ryzen

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Or maybe mismatched RAM

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 1:57 AM

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single channel hurts everywhere

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@pale mist Ryzen hurts more from lower frequencies, single channel hurts no matter what platform

pale mist Apr 13, 2021, 1:57 AM

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How much?

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 1:57 AM

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like

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if you really want a number

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40%

pale mist Apr 13, 2021, 1:57 AM

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Damn

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 1:57 AM

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prob overestimate, but it really hurts

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lows go to crap

pale mist Apr 13, 2021, 1:57 AM

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What about mismatched?

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 1:57 AM

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mismatched as in what kind?

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different brand same rating, prob fine

pale mist Apr 13, 2021, 1:58 AM

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Not exactly

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 1:58 AM

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like if you want to run a 4000c15 stick with a 2133c15 stick, it'll run at the slowest stick, so 2133c15

pale mist Apr 13, 2021, 1:58 AM

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Yeah, i am sticking with all ddr3 1600

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 1:59 AM

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all assuming it does work that is

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small but not negligible chance of just not working

pale mist Apr 13, 2021, 1:59 AM

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Il take that risk

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 1:59 AM

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But mix match over single channel of course

pale mist Apr 13, 2021, 1:59 AM

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But like a 8 and a 4gb stick dual channel with same speed

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:00 AM

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uh

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pretty sure you need same capacity for dual channel

pale mist Apr 13, 2021, 2:00 AM

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Damn

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Hmm could do all 2gb sticks actually will probably do that

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:01 AM

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It should

pale mist Apr 13, 2021, 2:02 AM

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Ok, forgot to look in the 4gb> cabnet, thanks

mild jackal Apr 13, 2021, 2:16 AM

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I mean, just try it and play some gaems

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Pull out a stick

pale mist Apr 13, 2021, 2:21 AM

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Ok

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Its an HP oem MOBO so bios will be limited

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At best

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This is one of those 1050ti flips that are so fun to do

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 3:11 AM

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eternal helm nvidia or radeon?

Radeon

eternal helm Apr 13, 2021, 3:12 AM

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ok

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do you have the adrenaline software?

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 3:13 AM

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the drivers?

eternal helm Apr 13, 2021, 3:13 AM

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its software

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yeah its what you use to update gpu drivers

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 3:13 AM

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so yeh

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i have updated them to the last vertion

eternal helm Apr 13, 2021, 3:14 AM

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ok

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so open that software

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then go to performance--->tuning--->Add game profile

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then you can set up games to run at whatever tuning you want

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and i just leave card undervolted all the time on my global graphics settings

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so when i open a game it goes back to normal

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but then when i cruise the web or go on discord its on power saving

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 3:16 AM

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radeon adrenalin 20.12.1

eternal helm Apr 13, 2021, 3:16 AM

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yeah

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so that softwaer

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open it

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click it once

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 3:17 AM

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huh

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weird

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its blurry

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like its the window size but its just a blur

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it says it isint compatible and i can have an erlier vertion

eternal helm Apr 13, 2021, 3:20 AM

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hmm

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 3:20 AM

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oh wait

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my bad it says it is 21.3.1 or 21.3.2

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which driver shoul i use @eternal helm

eternal helm Apr 13, 2021, 3:21 AM

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prolly newest one

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 3:21 AM

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.2?

eternal helm Apr 13, 2021, 3:21 AM

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so 21.3.2

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ye

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 3:24 AM

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welp

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gotta wait

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 3:27 AM

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eternal helm ye

do i restart¿

eternal helm Apr 13, 2021, 3:28 AM

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if it tells you to

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 3:29 AM

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k

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done

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 3:40 AM

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eternal helm if it tells you to

now whats next?

eternal helm Apr 13, 2021, 4:11 AM

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low radish now whats next?

#cpus-mobo-and-memory message

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 4:57 AM

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eternal helm https://discord.com/channels/500085440221806603/500101047612604427/8313668972652...

i declare my self with comodore 64 brain

mild birch Apr 13, 2021, 5:41 AM

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hollow thorn pretty sure you need same capacity for dual channel

you dont

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it'll just mean unbalanced channels

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which can be bad for bandwidth

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but theoretical max bandwidth will still be the same

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idk if windows manages uneven channels properly anymore but 🤷

strong mica Apr 13, 2021, 5:48 AM

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Any one use a msi gaming edge mother board? It any good, any huge issues.

mild birch Apr 13, 2021, 5:55 AM

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which one

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lol

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theres different chipsets

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and for what CPU?

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@strong mica

strong mica Apr 13, 2021, 5:56 AM

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The z490 or z590

mild birch Apr 13, 2021, 5:56 AM

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and what CPU?

strong mica Apr 13, 2021, 5:56 AM

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For a 10900kf

mild birch Apr 13, 2021, 5:56 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4D2WGX/gigabyte-z590-aorus-elite-atx-lga1200-motherboard-z590-aorus-elite

Gigabyte Z590 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

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heres a better mobo

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@mild jackal need your opinion
I have an M12A
and I kinda want to do a PCB breakdown
but notsure if its of any use

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no gonna take apart my M13A until I go cold

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wVnnCpkyoEIUidbvOEH5bxkZALnS8s91e_NZeT99aOE5sTIG6EbcfOBjI_D2bF9_Bt8Q65UR73kzs8Z9exUzWTGiI_vuYTwNdxyg.png

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you think I should do it? or waste of time?

strong mica Apr 13, 2021, 6:00 AM

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I ended up finding the edge with wifi for 200 vs the 250 ish I would have to spend to get the network interface card with that one trying to stay around 220 pre taxes.

mild birch Apr 13, 2021, 6:00 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YJ8bt6/gigabyte-z590-aorus-elite-ax-atx-lga1200-motherboard-z590-aorus-elite-ax
240btw

Gigabyte Z590 AORUS ELITE AX ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

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but
alas

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uhhh

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you said gaming edge wifi for 200?

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thats...good enough

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go with that

strong mica Apr 13, 2021, 6:04 AM

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What is the difference in the boards any ways? I get that asrock has stability issues and the lower boards have vram temp issues but most of what I have found on YouTube and internet show that the mid tier z boards keep the vram around 70ish-80ish?

mild birch Apr 13, 2021, 6:08 AM

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strong mica What is the difference in the boards any ways? I get that asrock has stability i...

I get that asrock has stability issues and the lower boards have vram temp issues

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what?

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...

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Motherboards dont have VRAM

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do you mean VRM?

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if so
VRM temps dont matter

strong mica Apr 13, 2021, 6:09 AM

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Vrm not vram

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My bad.

mild birch Apr 13, 2021, 6:09 AM

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and no
asrock doesnt have stability issues

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the main difference is in the quality of the power delivered, differences in signal integrity with the ram

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the differences in chipset

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differences in I/O

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so on

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these all are major factors in overclocking ram and CPU

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and I/O obviously helps if you need to connect stuff

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aside from that its mainly just aesthetics and debugging features

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its mainly just down to the quality ofthe PCB, the VRM and whether the I/O is good or not

rough moth Apr 13, 2021, 6:11 AM

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Hey guys suggest me any cheap mobo nd case

mild birch Apr 13, 2021, 6:11 AM

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for example
the z590 elite uses 12 phases of SiC649 mosfets from an ISL69269

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those are 60A Smart power stages
overall
the board has really really low ripple and transient response times, which is good

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its also a 6 layer PCB
which is useful for ram overclocking

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Its surprising howmany z590s are still 4 layers

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with somthing like an aorus pro, you get an uprade to the mosfets, as well as 8 PCB layers

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in addition to 20 usb ports instead of 17

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and a few other changes

strong mica Apr 13, 2021, 6:17 AM

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Ok now motherboard differences make more sense. Previously I thought it was just the power delivery that changed (as in mosfits and phases) and the ports but i have yet to use all the ports they give on my pc with 8.

mild birch Apr 13, 2021, 6:58 AM

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fun times with ram

oblique crown Apr 13, 2021, 9:29 AM

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So bottomline, the mb matters.

vernal cosmos Apr 13, 2021, 9:39 AM

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oblique crown So bottomline, the mb matters.

very much so

swift shale Apr 13, 2021, 2:23 PM

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Intel i9 - 10900, intel i7 - 10700k, or Intel i7 - 11700k and if I’m not overclocking should I not get the k at all

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 2:27 PM

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If you're not overclocking get a non k model, 11th gen i7 pretty meh, if you don't already have a motherboard I'd recommend getting a ryzen 7 5800x instead of i9 10900 if in your budget as its around the same price, if you already have board look as it's basically a 10900k -100mhz

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:27 PM

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mild birch if so VRM temps dont matter

MSI low end x570 would like to have a word with you

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5800x has wack stock though

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 2:28 PM

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It's improving pretty decent tho

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:28 PM

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still wack stock though

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 2:29 PM

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Fair

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 2:31 PM

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question?

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:31 PM

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answer?

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 2:31 PM

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an internal ssd can be made into a external disk drive?

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like an adaptor to sata and the power to usb

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:32 PM

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You can grab a external enclosure and slap it in

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 2:32 PM

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nois

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 2:32 PM

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Why would you bother tho? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:33 PM

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why not

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 2:33 PM

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vast meadow Why would you bother tho? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

disk running out of sapce and i have an spare ssd

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 2:33 PM

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Fair

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:33 PM

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very useful for like laptops

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 2:33 PM

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hollow thorn very useful for like laptops

yup thats me

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 2:33 PM

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I thought they wanted to buy a new ssd for it then in external drive lol

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 2:34 PM

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vast meadow I thought they wanted to buy a new ssd for it then in external drive lol

nah just like put it into a case with sata daptor that goes into usb

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i know that kinda gadget has to be somewhere

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 2:35 PM

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Yes i get that now

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 2:36 PM

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i mean if i move all of my games into the external ssd i could save some space for windows updates and stuff

night patio Apr 13, 2021, 2:37 PM

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Hi. I'm interested in buying the CyberpowerPC Gaming Desktop Gamer Master GMA9120CPG at Newegg.ca (Item#: N82E16883230606). However, it only comes with 8GB DDR4 and I need to add at least 8GB. I consulted the Newegg "Memory Finder" but the CyberpowerPC model GMA9120CPG was not listed. Could someone tell me the exact spec of the DIMM in place (for example: 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300)).

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 2:39 PM

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night patio Hi. I'm interested in buying the CyberpowerPC Gaming Desktop Gamer Master GMA912...

Get this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XJYWGX/gskill-aegis-8gb-1-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-f4-3000c16s-8gisb

G.Skill Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:39 PM

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@vast meadow tbh I just suggested a kit of 2x8 ballistx since wack prebuilts have wack ram

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likely 2666mhz or even lower

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ryzen no liek slow ram

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 2:39 PM

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True

dusky totem Apr 13, 2021, 2:40 PM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/TrYLrH/gskill-value-8gb-1-x-8gb-ddr4-2666-memory-f4-2666c19s-8gnt @night patio

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 2:40 PM

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Probs has an a320 board or something tho :/

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 2:40 PM

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dusky totem Apr 13, 2021, 2:40 PM

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they said newegg.ca

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:40 PM

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@vast meadow b550 according to product listing

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 2:40 PM

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this one sounds good?

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 2:40 PM

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hollow thorn <@!191276897227898880> b550 according to product listing

Ohh wow suprising for prebuilt

night patio Apr 13, 2021, 2:40 PM

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Thanks everyone!

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 2:40 PM

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dusky totem they said newegg.ca

Didn't see that bit

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 2:42 PM

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Mr. 1111!! Want to give me another hand? I said just start asking the right questions and not just assuming I remember everything perfectly cuz I can't get my desktop to bios setup

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:42 PM

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@low radish Dunno how that price looks (relative to local pricing), but that should work.

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Hai there

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 2:42 PM

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hollow thorn <@!708800881239523448> Dunno how that price looks (relative to local pricing), b...

its like 10 bucks

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 2:42 PM

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Got a couple minutes answer a few questions?

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:42 PM

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Sure

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 2:43 PM

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hollow thorn <@!708800881239523448> Dunno how that price looks (relative to local pricing), b...

but its good enough to make my ssd a external drive?

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 2:43 PM

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First, for some reason to me since it sounds dumb, but power supply unit if it's supplying power shouldn't be anything to do with it right?

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:43 PM

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Yea, it looks to be just a standard external sata enclosure, and that's all it needs to be, powered by usb

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:44 PM

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tawdry plinth First, for some reason to me since it sounds dumb, but power supply unit if it's...

Is it not booting, or no display at all right now?

low radish Apr 13, 2021, 2:44 PM

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hollow thorn Yea, it looks to be just a standard external sata enclosure, and that's all it n...

k

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 2:44 PM

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I can only get it to boot by hard jumping it I can't just press the power button

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No display

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The green lights on no q LED lights

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:45 PM

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Is the monitor plugged into the back of the GPU or the motherboard?

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 2:46 PM

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I've tried multiple variations but usually I always try to do the motherboard first, and usually by deviate I think not the HDMI or DP

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DVI

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:46 PM

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What CPU and GPU do you have?

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If you have a GPU, it should be plugged into the back of the GPU

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since a lot of CPUs don't have iGPUs (The display ports on the back of the motherboard are only for the iGPU)

dusky totem Apr 13, 2021, 2:47 PM

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what CPU?

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 2:47 PM

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So my instinct try the iGPU first incorrect? I-74770k

dusky totem Apr 13, 2021, 2:47 PM

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that has intergrated graphics

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:48 PM

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(-f varients on Intel don't have iGPUs)
But it should be plugged into the back of the graphics card when you do have one.

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Sometimes the presence of a dGPU disables the iGPU

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Ok, that'll be the first thing I try. Second question.

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:49 PM

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Can you take a picture of the bottom of the motherboard where you plugged in your front panel connectors?

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Since not turning on when pressing the power button probably means the front panel power connector is plugged in wrong

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 2:50 PM

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Yup

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Feel free to point out any obvious errors, I'm very forgetful sometimes

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I also was going to complete the upgrade and everything but I decided that I'm just going to fix instead

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:55 PM

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Well, this bit is what I'm current concerned about for now, so if you could take another picture and/or unplug those and check those over before plugging them in again

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And also, what motherboard is it? I can pull up a manual for the pinout for front io if it's not clear

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 2:57 PM

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Heh, Yeah that concerns me too especially when you'll see that I'm about to show you. Z87 Sabertooth by Asus. And thank you cuz I've heard that manual hundreds of times and it's hard for me to follow them sometimes if it's not telling me a story I can't read really but let's just say that I ruined a few USB ports by stepping on cables

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hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 2:57 PM

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rip :(

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 2:58 PM

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Uh oh, no further questions your honor?

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I'm just not getting a look at it there's.,. Is one missing?

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Now*

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 3:02 PM

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Found it! This is where the pwr switch needs to go, so check this

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Page 47 of manual according to whatever this website is

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:03 PM

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Schnikes I wasn't paying attention and put it there?

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But that doesn't answer my original question just yet right?

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 3:04 PM

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In terms of some missing, as you can see, only some of the pins are used

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:05 PM

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Ive placed those on the right pins 100 times

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 3:05 PM

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(For the front panel power button not working, check that the pwrsw connector is connected to the pwrsw header)

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hm

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oh well, could just blame it on faulty case for now

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Yeah I could turn it off by the button but not on

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 3:07 PM

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If there is still no display, apparently debug LEDs are all over the board on this board, can you check if any of these light up?

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:09 PM

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Okay well I deal with that, is Asus hasn't upgraded the qvl list in 5 years, and my RAM chips I just bought to augment the two burnt out dimm slots, does that necessarily mean that they won't work? And can it damage it in any way? The chips or anything?

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They're PNY and I actually got her contacted PNY he said it's on the qbl lists but like I thought and but he said it should still work if it meets the specs

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 3:10 PM

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Electronics are annoying, and what do you mean by augment the two burnt out slots?

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:10 PM

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Two RAM chips lots of fried

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Are*

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 3:10 PM

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If it's like actually burnt out, probably shouldn't use those slots, the pins are probably damaged

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:10 PM

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Sorry I use voice to text, but I stay clear of those cuz that's what my PC shop guy told me when I completely screwed up a few months back

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hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 3:11 PM

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Are the left 2 slots damaged?

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:11 PM

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That's what they said

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 3:12 PM

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hm

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:12 PM

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Once I started noticing problems that it thought we're unfixable I got a little haphazard

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Since then I'm learning there's a pretty much for a whole lot of things if you just think hard enough.

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A fix*

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 3:13 PM

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Recommended memory config uses those slots so... I don't know if the slots are actually broken but oh well, back to the start, is there still no display?

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:16 PM

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Haven't tried yet but I wanted to ask that ram question first and then get to this one before I started going further, hard drive anything to do with it could interfere if it's not that a Windows on it correctly (uncorrupted) and it's plugged via SATA (and does the slot matter if you're clearing the CMOS) what if anything does have to do getting to the BIOS screen?

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It's an SSD Samsung Evo

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 3:16 PM

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Lack of a hard drive or broken hard drive can cause no boot, and you could see that with the "boot device" debug led on the board, but good drive should be good

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Reset cmos shouldn't care about drives

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reset cmos just resets (clears) the bios cmos chip on the board

grim jay Apr 13, 2021, 3:18 PM

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Yo

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Hello

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:18 PM

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Yeah I should have been seeing Q-LEDs all happy dancing around the board. And that's the other thing and the reason why I'm asking the questions cuz I don't understand it anything about CMOS, UEFI and all that

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 3:18 PM

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fair

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I don't like bios either, I just like hardware :P

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:19 PM

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Now should I replace this power supply unit anyways it is pretty damn old and I remember somebody even saying what the heck is that

hollow thorn Apr 13, 2021, 3:19 PM

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da heck is that

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:19 PM

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Cool thing is I've never overclocked

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Never needed to

grim jay Apr 13, 2021, 3:20 PM

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Guys if i have an rtx 3070/80

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Wich cpu is good

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:20 PM

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I don't know where I got it, but I imagine it had to have been just cheap though

grim jay Apr 13, 2021, 3:20 PM

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R5 4650g or i5 11500 ?

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:20 PM

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I'm going to go ahead and replace before I try to boot up at all

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Have a feeling it might help with those airsoft getting with the fans. Even the PC techshop guy says I have almost no need for fans he said that exaggerating but he was just trying to make a point that my case is completely breathable

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Errors*

grim jay Apr 13, 2021, 3:22 PM

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tawdry plinth Now should I replace this power supply unit anyways it is pretty damn old and I ...

This is 970/980 ?

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:22 PM

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I don't know.... Lemme see if I can find out

grim jay Apr 13, 2021, 3:22 PM

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The gpu

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:22 PM

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Oh

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970

grim jay Apr 13, 2021, 3:23 PM

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Lol

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Ok

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:23 PM

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Been my best friend for quite a while

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Lol

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Assassin's Creed Valhalla is the first game in a long time I haven't been able to run at Max

grim jay Apr 13, 2021, 3:24 PM

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Best budget gpu

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:24 PM

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Best investment I ever made

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Or at least tied

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So with PNY right if the specs are okay should those RAM chips be all right even if they are major upgraded from.... well I'll show you comparison in a second here

grim jay Apr 13, 2021, 3:26 PM

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What ?

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 3:27 PM

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grim jay R5 4650g or i5 11500 ?

Get 11400, 11500 should only be gotten if the better igpu is needed

grim jay Apr 13, 2021, 3:28 PM

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But for the gpu

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I will see a big difference ?

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Between amd and intel

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 3:28 PM

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Depends on the cpu

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Don't get a amd 4th gen apu if you don't need the integrated gpu tho

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:29 PM

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vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 3:29 PM

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11400 best budget gaming cpu

grim jay Apr 13, 2021, 3:29 PM

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I need it

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 3:29 PM

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grim jay I need it

But you said to pair with 3070/80

split copper Apr 13, 2021, 3:30 PM

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My brother's old PC has that ram kit I think

grim jay Apr 13, 2021, 3:30 PM

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vast meadow But you said to pair with 3070/80

Yeah not now

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Future....

split copper Apr 13, 2021, 3:30 PM

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Might be slightly different

grim jay Apr 13, 2021, 3:30 PM

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tawdry plinth

You bought new ra or what ?

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 3:30 PM

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grim jay Yeah not now

Tbh i would go 11500, the 4th gen apus have to be imported from china

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:32 PM

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Here's something a little humorous I think that the jumper that I was supposed to use to clear the CMOS and was assuming that I needed to I guess, might be inside of this new unit just with the way the case was and I pulled it off and it fell into Oblivion, the abyss or purgatory. I never found it again. I still think it's trapped in here.

grim jay Apr 13, 2021, 3:32 PM

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vast meadow Tbh i would go 11500, the 4th gen apus have to be imported from china

Whats the problem ?

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:32 PM

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And I just bought this RAM chips yesterday

grim jay Apr 13, 2021, 3:32 PM

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They are used ?

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 3:32 PM

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grim jay Whats the problem ?

That you have to import it from china

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:32 PM

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Best buy

grim jay Apr 13, 2021, 3:32 PM

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vast meadow That you have to import it from china

Ok

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 3:33 PM

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grim jay Ok

Also the 11500 is better cpu

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:35 PM

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Someone refresh my memory how does this 5 digit number get designated?

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 3:35 PM

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What?

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:36 PM

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Plenty of builds over the years and I never noticed it being calculated into five digit numbers this like 10400 or 10600 or 11500 I don't know what that means

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It's just not a value that I've ever used but then again maybe that's why I don't know as much as you guys

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 3:37 PM

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tawdry plinth Plenty of builds over the years and I never noticed it being calculated into fiv...

Intel i5 10400 and i5 10600(both 10th gen) , i5 11500 11th gen

split copper Apr 13, 2021, 3:38 PM

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9900K, 9th gen

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:40 PM

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Gosh I'm looking at that I'm still looks like Chinese to me. There was a point in high school that I stopped giving crap about math because I just couldn't understand. Pilots and vectors are > and beyond me

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I was an English master instead, which is ironic because I use voice to text now

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Lmao

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:41 PM

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And I know that comparison is flawed

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Lol

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What do you call a guy with no arms and no legs in a kitchen sink

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Dwayne

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 3:43 PM

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...

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Some of us have a lot of alone time with our thoughts, that little stupid joke comes up occasionally

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 3:46 PM

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Nice lmao

tawdry plinth Apr 13, 2021, 3:47 PM

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I think I'm going to take it from here I think I've got everything I need, thank you guys again I'm sure I'll be back

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 3:52 PM

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Np

azure silo Apr 13, 2021, 4:41 PM

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Hi I upgraded my ram and was having issues was wondering if anyone could help. I changed it from oloy 2x8 16b 3600 to Corsair vengeance rgb pro 2x8 16gb 3200 moba only supports 3200 it says and it just wants to go into a infinite boot or if it does come up once I turn it off and back on it does it again or just won’t boot

elfin warren Apr 13, 2021, 4:41 PM

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What mobo

azure silo Apr 13, 2021, 4:42 PM

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Asrock b550m/ac

elfin warren Apr 13, 2021, 4:42 PM

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Thatll do 4400 mhz ram lol

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3200 is a downgrade

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Keep the 3600

azure silo Apr 13, 2021, 4:43 PM

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The Moba book says 3200

elfin warren Apr 13, 2021, 4:43 PM

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You misread it

azure silo Apr 13, 2021, 4:45 PM

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I can’t post a pic of the page from the book lol

elfin warren Apr 13, 2021, 4:46 PM

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I know but trust me, it'll do 4400 mhz

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I'm on the board page right now, 3200 is a JEDEC speed not an XMP speed

wintry scarab Apr 13, 2021, 5:28 PM

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Just tried installing "Open Box from NewEgg" TT DDR4 3200 in parallel with existing TT DDR4 3200 , failed to post in Bios

Have also attempted removing old ram and installing new ram only, still would not post.

I guess there's a reason why it was "Open Box" -- NewEgg just wants to leverage the money on a bad product that you will have to ship back to them

grizzled bloom Apr 13, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Or the new set of RAM has different dies on the sticks, which often causes POST failure

wintry scarab Apr 13, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Both are listed in the Z590 QVL, not sure why it would

grizzled bloom Apr 13, 2021, 5:31 PM

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CMOS reset often helps with memory issues like this

wintry scarab Apr 13, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Hmm, will try that then. Attempted every other Troubleshooting method I could think of

grizzled bloom Apr 13, 2021, 5:34 PM

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The BIOS has the IDs of the old sticks in its configuration, so if you tried installing new sticks and didn't turn every XMP/overclock option off it can get confused

worthy leaf Apr 13, 2021, 6:06 PM

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whats the best cpu for a 3070 (amd)

grizzled bloom Apr 13, 2021, 6:08 PM

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If just gaming, 5600X. If streaming or other multi-tasking, 5800X/5900X. If you're also doing video editing/3D modeling 5900X/5950X.

wintry scarab Apr 13, 2021, 6:09 PM

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grizzled bloom The BIOS has the IDs of the old sticks in its configuration, so if you tried ins...

Reset the CMOS, tried again with all 4 RAM in parallel and again with only the 2 new cards, still getting Error 55 (memory not readable)

grizzled bloom Apr 13, 2021, 6:10 PM

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Try one stick at a time with the new ones, if one works and the other doesn't you'll know for sure the problem

worthy leaf Apr 13, 2021, 6:11 PM

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grizzled bloom If just gaming, 5600X. If streaming or other multi-tasking, 5800X/5900X. If you'...

i'm trying to get a 5900x but its kinda hard right now, might just go with a 5800x

grizzled bloom Apr 13, 2021, 6:13 PM

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I have a 5800X, as far as performance it's fantastic, but value per core isn't great.

worthy leaf Apr 13, 2021, 6:13 PM

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hmmmmm

grizzled bloom Apr 13, 2021, 6:13 PM

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I run a media server and a couple other things in the background so the extra threads are worth it to me

worthy leaf Apr 13, 2021, 6:13 PM

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is the 5900x a bit overkill

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just wondering

grizzled bloom Apr 13, 2021, 6:14 PM

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5600X is more than enough for just gaming, and if you have an nvidia GPU you can stream using that

ionic hamlet Apr 13, 2021, 6:54 PM

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I'm aiming for a 5600x. Then I'll be set and not need to worry about upgrading anytime soon.

elfin epoch Apr 13, 2021, 7:06 PM

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Idk which chat do ask so I’ll ask here

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I have a controller for my fans to change the led but I have rgb Ram and an led on my motherboard as well. Would it be possible to sync all of these to the same controller? Usually I have to change it through windows for the Ram and mb

grizzled bloom Apr 13, 2021, 7:08 PM

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RAM RGB can only be controlled from in motherboard software. If you have the RGB controller connected to the motherboard, you could sync it.

elfin epoch Apr 13, 2021, 7:10 PM

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I’m using a b450 tomahawk. Would I just use the app to sync it or would I need to download something else

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I haven’t really explored the app myself so idk

grizzled bloom Apr 13, 2021, 7:11 PM

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That has the MSI mystic light app right? You'd have to use that.

elfin epoch Apr 13, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Dope. I barely passed my a+ cert so I’m terrible with these things

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I’m a programmer not a hardware guy

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Thanks for the help

grizzled bloom Apr 13, 2021, 7:14 PM

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No problem

modern flame Apr 13, 2021, 7:27 PM

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MB shortage. Should I get the ASRock H570M PRO4 now, or wait for the ASUS TUF B560m Plus Wifi?

elfin warren Apr 13, 2021, 7:28 PM

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B560

grizzled bloom Apr 13, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Motherboards restock pretty regularly, I'd wait

elfin warren Apr 13, 2021, 7:28 PM

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Better feature set although both allow ram speeds

dusky totem Apr 13, 2021, 7:31 PM

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grizzled bloom Motherboards restock pretty regularly, I'd wait

^

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Sorry for the ping 😬

modern flame Apr 13, 2021, 7:31 PM

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I'd rather wait for the ASUS, but no sign on when they will be available. I'm just anxious. I've been sitting on everything for a build except the MB for 2 weeks.

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Thank you for the help 🙂

grizzled bloom Apr 13, 2021, 7:40 PM

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Mobos tend to restock every 2-3 weeks, and they stay in stock for a while.

ionic hamlet Apr 13, 2021, 8:52 PM

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I'm just waiting to snag a 5600x when they come back in stock. I missed my shot last week.

vast meadow Apr 13, 2021, 8:53 PM

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Ehhh it's okay unless you have a b450/b550/x470 board and unless you need the extra 2 cores, i5 11400 would be about 50$ cheaper and perform better in games

eternal helm Apr 13, 2021, 9:26 PM

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ionic hamlet I'm just waiting to snag a 5600x when they come back in stock. I missed my shot ...

Buy it rn for that price

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Especially if you wanna go into productivity

limber dragon Apr 13, 2021, 9:47 PM

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if their productivity can utilize avx512, go 11th gen

eternal helm Apr 13, 2021, 9:53 PM

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Ye

quartz zinc Apr 13, 2021, 10:32 PM

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how do i add another pci-e slot on my motherboard?

elfin warren Apr 13, 2021, 10:33 PM

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You can't add PCI-E slots..........

quartz zinc Apr 13, 2021, 10:33 PM

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dang

grizzled bloom Apr 13, 2021, 10:53 PM

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Well, you could get a riser that splits the slots but they're expensive

hard cape Apr 14, 2021, 12:09 AM

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Hey, Did anyone test the compatibility of P05592-B21 64GB DDR4-2666 PC4-21300 Memory Upgrade by Nemix Ram
with ROME2D16-2T motherboard (Dual socket)?

swift shale Apr 14, 2021, 2:48 AM

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Question. Let’s say for example just comparing an i9 10900 and an i9 10900k. They have an almost identical boost clock speed, but the base in the 10900k is higher than the 10900. What would be the benefit of that higher base frequency?

limber dragon Apr 14, 2021, 2:57 AM

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if you're on a locked motherboard, get the non-k

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if you're on z490/z590, get the k and remove the power limits

swift shale Apr 14, 2021, 3:02 AM

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But If I’m not overclocking and get the non k will I have a low GHz as oppose fo getting a K and still not overclocking

hollow thorn Apr 14, 2021, 3:05 AM

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Boosting behavior will usually take you much higher than base frequency

swift shale Apr 14, 2021, 3:07 AM

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But let’s say I get a 10900 and don’t overclock right. Would that 2.8 or so GHz effect me a lot as opposed to getting a 10900k and having a better base

elfin warren Apr 14, 2021, 3:07 AM

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Not really, CPU will boost as needed

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 10:26 AM

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swift shale But let’s say I get a 10900 and don’t overclock right. Would that 2.8 or so GHz ...

Get the non k and a b560 board if you're not overclockint

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Depends intel? 3000 probs fine, amd yes yes yes, go 3600 if possible

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Ballistix 3600 is like 90 for 16gb vs like 10 less for 3200

wary peak Apr 14, 2021, 1:54 PM

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is there a cheap Intel better than the i5 3570

hollow thorn Apr 14, 2021, 1:55 PM

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10100 with a b560 board

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 2:12 PM

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Sometimes the i5 10400 is cheaper some reason, get that isntead of the i3 10100 if it is

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 2:32 PM

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Ayy, my RAM is out for delivery

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 2:41 PM

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Def go 3200

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Ballistix is usually pretty good, tbh you could get 3600cl16 can't remember if it's officially supported but it would give extra perf

elfin warren Apr 14, 2021, 2:43 PM

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For Ryzen 3000?

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3600 C16 is def supported

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 2:44 PM

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Couldn't remember because my b450 only officially supports 3200

elfin warren Apr 14, 2021, 2:44 PM

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Which B450?

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Sounds low

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 2:44 PM

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Ds3h from gigabyte

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I assumed it was 3600 anyway but couldn't fully remember

elfin warren Apr 14, 2021, 2:45 PM

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Support for DDR4 3600(O.C.)/3466(O.C.)/3200(O.C.)/2933/2667/2400/2133 MHz memory modules

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https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450M-DS3H-rev-1x/sp#sp

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grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 2:46 PM

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On AMD the "officially supported speeds" are more guidelines anyway

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Nvm then

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Last time i checked swear it said 3200 anyway doesn't matter as I'm running 3000 but wanna oc but 3 ram sticks means 1usmus calc doesn't work lol

elfin warren Apr 14, 2021, 2:47 PM

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3200 might be JEDEC speeds

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And not XMP

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 2:47 PM

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We can help with that, but 3 sticks will usually run single channel...

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Cpu z says it's running dual

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 2:49 PM

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Guess you're one of the exceptions then, but it might be dual only up to a certain capacity

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 2:49 PM

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I'd say so

elfin warren Apr 14, 2021, 2:49 PM

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grizzled bloom Guess you're one of the exceptions then, but it might be dual only up to a certa...

This

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 2:49 PM

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If the channels have different size memory

elfin warren Apr 14, 2021, 2:49 PM

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FLex mode

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so 3x 8 Gb for example, it will run dual channel until you exceed 16 GB

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 2:50 PM

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To my knowledge it's dual for first 16gb then the last 8 are single channel

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 2:51 PM

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Do all 3 sticks have the same die?

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 2:52 PM

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Don't use the extra 8 but had 8 3000mhz originally and when i upgraded and got a new 16gb kit 3200mhz and doubt there's really a diff in 3000 to 3200, i benchmarked with both saw like 0.5% improvement mb

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 2:52 PM

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grizzled bloom Do all 3 sticks have the same die?

According to typhoon they're all samsung b but it's corsair lpx so could be wrong

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 2:54 PM

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Oh that's easy then, check the version number on the stickers

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Thaiphoon guesses wrong sometimes

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 2:56 PM

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Then just look up the version number?

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 2:57 PM

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The version number will correspond with the die revision

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 2:58 PM

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Okay lemme check

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 2:59 PM

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long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 3:00 PM

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Can I do that kind of lookup for my Crucial Ballistix RGB kit? It's a 32gb 2x16 kit.

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It hasn't arrived yet, but I'd like to know what I have when I go to use 1usmus calc to get it tuned as tight as possible.

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And the speed it's rated for is 3200 C16

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 3:04 PM

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Crucial does it differently, it's not so easy to figure out. If you post a picture of the stickers we might be able to figure it out.

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 3:04 PM

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Gotcha

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Will do when I get the kit in.

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 3:09 PM

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grizzled bloom

Okay so the both say v4.32 so samsung c die? Even tho their different speeds i guess

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 3:10 PM

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Yep that's C-die. It won't overclock as well as B-die, but it should do ok.

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 3:11 PM

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Okay nice thanks

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 3:14 PM

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I'd expect you to be able to get 3600C16 with minimal effort at 1.4v or less

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 3:21 PM

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Ohh nice

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Even with mixed kits?

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What about the rest of the timings? Or should i just try 3600cl16 with 1.4v

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:23 PM

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Anyone want a Ryzen 9 5950x?

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 3:24 PM

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If they're the same die yeah. I'd ask fitz or one of the other pros about subtimings and tertiary. By all means, play around with it, but note that it won't scale past 1.4v or so.

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 3:25 PM

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Okay thanks

hardy moon Apr 14, 2021, 3:26 PM

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willow minnow Anyone want a Ryzen 9 5950x?

Rule 9: no buying or selling

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:27 PM

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I am not selling I just asked if anyone wanted one lol

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 3:27 PM

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Pretty sure it's still against rules

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:27 PM

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vast meadow Pretty sure it's still against rules

TO ASK IF SOMEONE WANTS ONE??

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 3:28 PM

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As if you were giving one away yes

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 3:28 PM

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Poking the line is still not advised

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 3:28 PM

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If you're asking would i dream to have one thats okay

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:28 PM

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I can't give my things away?

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 3:28 PM

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vast meadow If you're asking would i dream to have one thats okay

But not phrased like this

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 3:28 PM

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Nope, no giveaways either

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 3:28 PM

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willow minnow I can't give my things away?

No giveaway #rules num 9

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:29 PM

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Damn oh well

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lol

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I'm really looking to figure a build out for my Ryzen 9 lol

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 3:30 PM

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That we can do. We love throwing builds together. I'd do it but I'm about to leave.

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:32 PM

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Dang I have a mobo and the cpu an aio rn but I need ram,case,power supply,gpu

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 3:35 PM

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Gpu, good luck but for ram I'd go 32gb ripjaws 2x16gb 3600cl16 a Corsair 5000d airflow and a enermax revolution df for $120 for and 850w but you could always go 1000 depending on what gpu and other things you want to put in it

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:44 PM

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So what I am thinking is like the NZXT H510i Compact ATX Midtower or the one with Dual tempered glass and my mobo I am going to use is ASRock > B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax and ofc my cpu is a Ryzen 9 5950x and I have an AIO but I don't like it

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Its an Enermax aquafusion AIO

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 3:44 PM

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H510 will choke your poor components terrible airflow

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:45 PM

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I know I'm looking at more rn

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 3:46 PM

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Okay good idea

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:47 PM

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How about an H210 mini ITX tower?

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I am still thinking of a gpu like maybe an rtx 3060 or 3080

hardy moon Apr 14, 2021, 3:49 PM

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willow minnow How about an H210 mini ITX tower?

No lol

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Even worse

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Don’t do nzxt

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:50 PM

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Fr?

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 3:50 PM

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Yep

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:50 PM

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dang whats a good case lol?

hardy moon Apr 14, 2021, 3:50 PM

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willow minnow Fr?

If you have 5950x actually

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:50 PM

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yes

hardy moon Apr 14, 2021, 3:50 PM

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Then do a 3080 for gpu

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At least

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Are you gaming??

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:51 PM

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Ok but see I dont like buying things offline only in person

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wym by that lol

hardy moon Apr 14, 2021, 3:52 PM

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willow minnow wym by that lol

Are you going to be playing games, or are you going to do workstation stuff (CAD, video editing) as well and if you are streaming or not

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:52 PM

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Well I'm going to be gaming ofc and streaming but some video editing

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rn I have a ryzen 5 2600 andd I recently have a ryzen 9 5950x

hardy moon Apr 14, 2021, 3:53 PM

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Ok so gaming you should do a 3080 at least then because you have such a good cpu

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:54 PM

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Ok so a 3080 but Im lowkey lost rn I wish they had a vc lol

hardy moon Apr 14, 2021, 3:54 PM

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Do you want a larger case or a smaller case

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:55 PM

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Ok I have a Mobo and a cpu and an aio but the aio I dont want because it just isnt appeling to me and my board is an ASRock > B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax and I want to work with this as much as I can

hardy moon Apr 14, 2021, 3:56 PM

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So itx is really small systems

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What size aio do you have

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:57 PM

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Yea when I opened the box it was small and my case I have rn is an midtower I think and its rosewill

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And I have an 240mm

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 3:57 PM

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Few i thought you were going to say 120

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:57 PM

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lol

hardy moon Apr 14, 2021, 3:58 PM

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@willow minnow just do what patovak said earlier “Gpu, good luck but for ram I'd go 32gb ripjaws 2x16gb 3600cl16 a Corsair 5000d airflow and a enermax revolution df for $120 for and 850w but you could always go 1000 depending on what gpu and other things you want to put in it

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:59 PM

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Lets jump in a vc rq?

hardy moon Apr 14, 2021, 3:59 PM

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Sorry I’m at school lol

willow minnow Apr 14, 2021, 3:59 PM

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Lol all good

hollow thorn Apr 14, 2021, 4:02 PM

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vc is sad

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Mr1111 (or any other ppl knowledgeable with ram ocing) I'm trying to OC my ram, it's Samsung c die and fal cie said that it should probs boot at 3600cl16 no prob with 1.4v but I've got 3 sticks do i need to change something, because i can't get that to boot even 3400 wasn't booting

hollow thorn Apr 14, 2021, 4:11 PM

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im bad with ram oc :(

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Might be a forky time

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also, 3 sticks...?

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 4:13 PM

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Yeah i originally had 1 8gb stick and when i was upgrading it was like an extra 10 for the 2x8 over 1x8 so why not have 24gb ram :/

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Thanks tho, guess I'll pop into overclocking channel then

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 4:45 PM

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Honestly having 24gb of RAM is probably more of a hindrance than having proper dual channel. Your adding more stress on the IMC using Flex Mode.

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 4:47 PM

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Definitely adding more stress but let's see if the IMC is good enough to handle it

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 4:52 PM

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If not i can always take one of the sticks out i guess

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:29 PM

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@vast meadow

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I have a question

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If i connect my gaming laptop to a monitor can i like play games on the monitor and watch youtube on the laptop

storm mantle Apr 14, 2021, 5:31 PM

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yes

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Yes, just set it to be an extended desktop

silk ice Apr 14, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Yea I'm doing that right now, performance won't be quite as good as normal but it 100% works

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:32 PM

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And set games to use "borderless windowed" mode

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:33 PM

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grizzled bloom And set games to use "borderless windowed" mode

Okay Thanks

silk ice Apr 14, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Also out of curiosity what is an appropriate cpu for a 3060?

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buddy managed to get one and I'm trying to help him plan a new pc

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Ryzen 5 3400G RX VEGA 11 And Ryzen 5 4600H GTX 1650 which one is better?

wheat halo Apr 14, 2021, 5:33 PM

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@silk ice depends on your needs

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:34 PM

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silk ice Also out of curiosity what is an appropriate cpu for a 3060?

Ryzen 3600+ or Intel 10400+

silk ice Apr 14, 2021, 5:34 PM

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wheat halo <@362029998569291777> depends on your needs

He mostly does VR and other miscellaneous games

wheat halo Apr 14, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Then 10400 3600 will be fine

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Like falcie said

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:35 PM

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VR on a 3060 won't be a great experience

silk ice Apr 14, 2021, 5:35 PM

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It's a better experience than his 1060

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:35 PM

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True

silk ice Apr 14, 2021, 5:36 PM

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And alright, thanks for the advice

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:36 PM

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Intel or AMD?

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Then memory support is just a guideline

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It can do faster

smoky widget Apr 14, 2021, 5:38 PM

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Hi, I have the same question, what ram should I get for i9 10900K? g.skill Ripjaw 3200, 3600 or 4000?

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 5:39 PM

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grizzled bloom VR on a 3060 won't be a great experience

What? You can easily do VR on a 1060. I play VR games on my Quest with a 1070.

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:40 PM

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3200 is fine, 3600 is good, 4000 is better, but you get less performance per dollar going faster @smoky widget

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 5:40 PM

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smoky widget Hi, I have the same question, what ram should I get for i9 10900K? g.skill Ripj...

Intel doesn't care as much about RAM. 3600 is fine if you can find it cheap enough.

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Can the Ryzen 4600H run Fivem? Btw its the Ryzen 5 4600h 3.0ghz 16gb ram

smoky widget Apr 14, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Thank you @long basalt and @grizzled bloom I saw that G.skill ripjawV 32gb 4000 was on sale for 196 in newegg

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:41 PM

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long basalt What? You can easily do VR on a 1060. I play VR games on my Quest with a 1070.

It depends a lot on your headset of course, you won't be driving 1440p 120Hz with a 1060

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 5:41 PM

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naive pendant Can the Ryzen 4600H run Fivem? Btw its the Ryzen 5 4600h 3.0ghz 16gb ram

If you have a GPU, it should be fine.

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:41 PM

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GTX 1650 btw

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 5:42 PM

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naive pendant GTX 1650 btw

Ehhhh I wouldn't play GTAV on that.

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:42 PM

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smoky widget Thank you <@!100710174137798656> and <@!396513761550270464> I saw that G.skill r...

What timings? That's more important than speed

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:42 PM

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long basalt Ehhhh I wouldn't play GTAV on that.

why not?

smoky widget Apr 14, 2021, 5:42 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374107?itemPosition=13-15&exactIndex=14

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 5:43 PM

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naive pendant why not?

You might be lucky to get 60 FPS 1080p Low

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Oh

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What about GTX 1650 Ti

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:43 PM

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smoky widget https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374107?itemPos...

Not great timings, 18-22-22

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Better to get a 3600 kit with better timings

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 5:44 PM

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naive pendant What about GTX 1650 Ti

There's not much of a difference between a 1650 and a 1650Ti

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I think the only major difference is 4GB of VRAM

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A 1660Ti would be the lowest I'd go in a 16 series card to play GTA V

smoky widget Apr 14, 2021, 5:44 PM

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ok, that works. I just got the email and they were on sale earlier this week

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:44 PM

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Oh

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i mean the rx vega 11 plays fivem very good

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 5:45 PM

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I.... Doubt that.

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:45 PM

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my friend has it

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he plays fivem

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and fortnite 120fps max

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:45 PM

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Vega igpu is way faster than Intel

smoky widget Apr 14, 2021, 5:46 PM

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16-19-19-39 better? Item#: N82E16820232907?

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:46 PM

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the GTX 1650 is an intel gpu?

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:46 PM

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Nvidia

smoky widget Apr 14, 2021, 5:46 PM

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no @naive pendant it's NVIDIA

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:46 PM

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Oh

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can the RX5600M play fivem?

smoky widget Apr 14, 2021, 5:47 PM

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NVIDIA uses GTX or RTX. AMD is RX

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 5:48 PM

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naive pendant can the RX5600M play fivem?

Probably

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Im looking for a gaming laptop around 800 that can play fivem

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:50 PM

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smoky widget 16-19-19-39 better? Item#: N82E16820232907?

That one's not great either, same latency essentially, I'll find you a good kit

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 5:50 PM

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naive pendant Im looking for a gaming laptop around 800 that can play fivem

LOL good luck. Might as well be looking for a diamond in a haystack

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:51 PM

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Could probably find a laptop with a 1650 or something around that price

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:52 PM

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Now im starting to think these bestbuy agents dont know anything about computers

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:52 PM

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You'd be right

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:52 PM

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this guy sends me a link of a 300 dollar computer telling me its a gaming laptop

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:52 PM

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They read from a script and the answer to most problems is to buy more things

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:53 PM

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grizzled bloom They read from a script and the answer to most problems is to buy more things

some get the answers from google

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:53 PM

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If they're smart enough to do that

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:53 PM

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mhm

smoky widget Apr 14, 2021, 5:53 PM

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better chance on buying a laptop online when there are sales

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:55 PM

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wdym

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I just want a gaming laptop cuz i have nothing to play on except for a switch and this laptop with 1.0ghz

smoky widget Apr 14, 2021, 5:56 PM

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maybe buy a used one 😦

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I brought my first two gaming laptops used

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 5:57 PM

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ik im buying a used one

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the good ones are expensive

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the decent ones are at a good price

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 5:59 PM

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@smoky widget Most of the good stuff seems to be out of stock so those G skill kits will be ok. You can probably overclock it so the timings are tighter.

smoky widget Apr 14, 2021, 6:00 PM

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I don't mind G.skill, corsair or hyperx. I just been using G.skill for three computers and no issues at all

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but it's cool. If there no good 3600 with decent timings. I guess 3200 will suffice

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 6:00 PM

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is he telling the truth

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 6:01 PM

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Gskill has the best compatibility overall, but even the other brands I looked at are out of stock.

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 6:01 PM

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that i can play fivem at least 60fps on the ryzen 5 4600h gtx 1650?

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 6:02 PM

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Considering the official recommended spec for that calls for a GTX 660 from 2012, a 1650 can handle it easily

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 6:03 PM

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Oh Alright cuz rn many ppl are telling me different things

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Straight from the horse's mouth https://docs.fivem.net/docs/client-manual/system-requirements/

Cfx.re Docs

System requirements

smoky widget Apr 14, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Usually having recommended or better specs than recommended for future games

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 6:05 PM

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The 1650 is roughly double the performance of the 660, unless you mean the mobile version

smoky widget Apr 14, 2021, 6:05 PM

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he's talking about a laptop

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 6:05 PM

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yes a laptop not desktop

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Even then, it should work great. Just not quite as many frames as desktop.

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 6:06 PM

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well if it gets 60fps

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then im fine

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atleast 60fps

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 6:07 PM

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It'll do 120 or so if I had to guess

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 6:08 PM

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thats too much for a 1650

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even a 1650 Ti cant even do that much

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 6:09 PM

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According to who? I mostly pulled a number out of the air anyway

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 6:10 PM

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According to youtube a 1650 ti cant handle 120fps on fivem

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fivem is a big software with big servers

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@grizzled bloom cna it handle fortnite 120fps max?

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 6:12 PM

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I'm seeing even a 1050ti is enough for 50+ fps. Even the mobile 1650 is better than that.

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Fortnite is more CPU use than GPU, lemme look

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Okay

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Easy 120 from the look of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcWQ_ACNU-Y

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naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 6:17 PM

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thats the one with the Ti

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im getting just the regular 1650

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 6:17 PM

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Doesn't matter, it's more CPU use like I said

naive pendant Apr 14, 2021, 6:17 PM

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ight let me watch it

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Im sure if i play performance mode i can get like 200fps

strong mica Apr 14, 2021, 6:29 PM

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Bumd question is there any white motherboards for intel 1200 socket that are good around 220ish dollars with out wifi or 250 with? Decided on z590 arous elite ax for 240 before I got a white case. Willing to stick with it if nothing is around it in quality for the price.

hardy moon Apr 14, 2021, 6:34 PM

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Either of these

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@strong mica

strong mica Apr 14, 2021, 6:36 PM

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Ok.

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 6:40 PM

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Don't go nzxt z490

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🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

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@strong mica

strong mica Apr 14, 2021, 6:41 PM

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Was looking into the power delivery of the two.

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Looks like it is 8+2 while arous is 12+1

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 6:44 PM

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The only non fire board nzxt has is there b550 to my knowledge as it's made by asrock not my someone else

smoky widget Apr 14, 2021, 6:52 PM

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I would recommend maybe Asus TUF. Not bad at all either @strong mica. Unless you going all white build

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 7:03 PM

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strong mica Looks like it is 8+2 while arous is 12+1

The +2 is just RAM power delivery. And the Phases don't matter if they are crappy ones.

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You can have an 8 phase power delivery that kicks the crap out of a 12 phase.

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 7:27 PM

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best budget b560 board?

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matx or atx, doesnt matter

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needs m.2 slot tho

subtle lava Apr 14, 2021, 7:40 PM

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So I can't enable XMP for 3600 because my system just turn on after that

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can i manually change my memory to a lower speed?

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if so do i need to change the voltage too?

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 7:41 PM

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subtle lava if so do i need to change the voltage too?

1.1v SoC
1.0v VDDP
1.05v VDDG

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Assuming Ryzen

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 7:50 PM

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man...

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could someone perhaps help me. he

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:04 PM

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With what?

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Oh the mATX board?

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:05 PM

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grizzled bloom Oh the mATX board?

the b560 budget board

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:05 PM

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yes

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:05 PM

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with an m.2

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Most B560 boards will have an M.2 slot

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:05 PM

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thank u

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:05 PM

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grizzled bloom Most B560 boards will have an M.2 slot

I know

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xd

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But I just want to get a good cheap one under 140€

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:06 PM

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what cpu do you intend to use on the mobo

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:06 PM

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11400f

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Right now it's not so much what's good as what's actually in stock

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:06 PM

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isnt b560 board in stock?

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Wait even mobos out of stock now falcie?

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:06 PM

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What country, since you're using Euros?

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Not in sweden

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Oh yeah sweden

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Yes B560 has been VERY high demand

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:07 PM

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well they are in stock here..

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:07 PM

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Because memory overclocking now

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:07 PM

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Ahhh

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:07 PM

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but ehm,, which one would you recommend ?

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:07 PM

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Working on it, checking what's available to you

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:08 PM

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Oh sorry

subtle lava Apr 14, 2021, 8:10 PM

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grizzled bloom 1.1v SoC 1.0v VDDP 1.05v VDDG

intel

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:10 PM

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https://se.pcpartpicker.com/product/vvKKHx/asrock-b560m-hdv-micro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-b560m-hdv
1054 kr / 104 eur

ASRock B560M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:11 PM

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ugh I hate asrock bios

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gigapoop and asus best bioses

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:12 PM

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There's not a lot available even in Sweden according to pcpartpicker, but they don't scrape everything

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:12 PM

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true

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Just making a general statent tho

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ASUS and gigapoop>msi>asrock>oem gray stuff cringe

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:13 PM

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perhaps not in sweden, but i can buy it from a danish store or something with no shipping

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Why are you recommending this, like why is it good for the price xd.. I just want to learn

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:18 PM

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Mostly because it was the only one available in your price range on that website that wasn't ITX lol

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:18 PM

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ASRock B560 Pro4

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but is ASRock B560 Pro4 good then?

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looks like it good more heatsinks for mosfets and stuff,.. perhaps a littel better chipset heatsink too, idk

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:20 PM

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It's better than the other one yes. If you can pitch an extra few Euros I'd go for this one though
https://www.alza.de/asus-tuf-gaming-b560m-plus-wifi-d6376881.htm

Alza

ASUS TUF GAMING B560M-PLUS WIFI - Motherboard | Alza.de

Das Motherboard der Marke ASUS besteht aus dem Chipsatz Intel B560 und zum Integrieren des Prozessors gibt es den Steckplatz Intel 1200. Ein Standard bildet die Soundkarte für insgesamt 8 Kanäle. Verwenden können Sie unter anderem ein Netzwerkmodul mit einer angenehmen Anschluss-Variante mittels

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:23 PM

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its a lot over the budget in sweden

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So will ASRock B560 Pro4 work then...

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:26 PM

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potent zenith So will ASRock B560 Pro4 work then...

it will work

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I wouldnt buy it tho

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:27 PM

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why

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because of the bios?

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:28 PM

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If you're on a locked processor the BIOS doesn't really matter that much

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:28 PM

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yeeee

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but if im not overclocking, doesnt the vrm matter either then?

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:29 PM

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lack of wifi, only 2 ram slots, bios and also less usb ports

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for my use 6 rear usb isnt enouh

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:30 PM

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I mean this one

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:30 PM

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potent zenith

thats not linked anywhere

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:30 PM

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ASRock B560 Pro4

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:31 PM

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again that one has no wifi and only 6 usb ports

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also a WAYYY weaker audio card

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:31 PM

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cant I just use a wire?

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:31 PM

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vernal cosmos also a WAYYY weaker audio card

Oh im really bad at audio card stuff.

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:31 PM

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potent zenith cant I just use a wire?

ethernet works for sure

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:32 PM

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Dont even know what it means

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:32 PM

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the asrock has virtual 5.1 support

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the asus one seems to have true 7.1 support

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:33 PM

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and what difference does that make

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for a person using it

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Better audio quality even on a surround channel

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the asus is using a better codec

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Not much difference if you use speakers on your monitor or a headset

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:33 PM

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So u cant have 7.1 surround sound headset...

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xd i dont understand

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:33 PM

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grizzled bloom Not much difference if you use speakers on your monitor or a headset

headset makes a massive difference

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Not for the usb kind

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Im talking exclusively 3.5mm

vernal cosmos Apr 14, 2021, 8:35 PM

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potent zenith So u cant have 7.1 surround sound headset...

you can have a virtual 7.1. not true 7.1 like a razer tiamat

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the razer tiamat is hot garbage tho

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I used to have it

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:35 PM

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True surround headsets are VERY expensive anyway, most are emulated surround

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:35 PM

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hmmm

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So is it an imporant factor or no

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:38 PM

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Depends on how you plan to have audio mostly. What will you be using? Monitor speakers? USB headset? Probably not if either of those

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:38 PM

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headset

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Dont know if i will use usb or 3.5

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whats the best

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grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:43 PM

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Well I guess it's a moot point anyway if it really does have 7.1

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 8:43 PM

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can someone help me find some memory for ASUS - ROG MAXIMUS XIII HERO Socket LGA 1200 USB 3.2 Intel Motherboard from best buy? i am having no dang luck

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:45 PM

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grizzled bloom Well I guess it's a moot point anyway if it really does have 7.1

huh? it says that it has it...

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 8:45 PM

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Moot point meaning the whole part of the conversation didn't really matter since it has 7.1

potent zenith Apr 14, 2021, 8:46 PM

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ahaaa

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xd okay :),

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thank u for your help

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 8:53 PM

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compact sun can someone help me find some memory for ASUS - ROG MAXIMUS XIII HERO Socket LGA...

You want the ram from best buy? To my knowledge they don't have very much ram

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 8:57 PM

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just want something compatible so asus will stop telling me that its the memory fault because i didnt buy one on their dang list

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im dyslexic and keep getting numbers hosed up

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 8:57 PM

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compact sun just want something compatible so asus will stop telling me that its the memory ...

Their list is bogus usually. RAM is RAM for the most part.

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 8:59 PM

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does it matter what the speed is for gaming?

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 8:59 PM

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Yes but No.

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Anything slower than 3000Mhz is gonna be bleh, But anything faster than 3600Mhz is just overkill.

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Just get a solid 3200Mhz CL16 kit and you will be just fine.

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 9:00 PM

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i have a asus crosshair viii hero wifi, with amd ryzen 93950, and 32g ddr4 corsair 3600 memory and a couple m2 drives and black ops keeps crashing and nobody can seem to fix it so im going back to intel....

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:00 PM

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Black Ops what?

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Also, it's likely not your hardware.

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 9:01 PM

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cod black ops cold war

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:01 PM

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It's probably just the game being a trash game.

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Yeah, I'd wager it's the game's fault.

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 9:01 PM

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ya but it dont crash on my intel laptop....

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:01 PM

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If that's the ONLY thing crashing, then it's the game being bad and you should play a better game.

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Like Titanfall 2, or Rainbow 6 Siege, or literally any other shooter.

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 9:02 PM

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i play to play with mk son, cause he is 3000 miles a way

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:02 PM

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Then play a better game with him.

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COD is just a reskin of itself ever since Black Ops 2.

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Your Desktop is trying to tell you that you are playing a bad game, that's why it's crashing.

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 9:03 PM

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i see....

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:04 PM

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Seriously, Cold War has been one of, if not the Worst COD release in like, 5 years.

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 9:04 PM

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Ram is ram yes and intel 3000mhz or 3200mhz is fine

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The list is nothing you need to bother with

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:04 PM

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vast meadow Ram is ram yes and intel 3000mhz or 3200mhz is fine

Even on Ryzen, 3000Mhz is fine

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 9:05 PM

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It's fine but you'll notice the bump above to higher speeds on ryzen way more than intel

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:05 PM

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compact sun i have a asus crosshair viii hero wifi, with amd ryzen 93950, and 32g ddr4 corsa...

Have you verified your RAM is running at 3600Mhz? Most people forget to turn on XMP and expect their RAM to run at the rated speed out of the box (Spoiler alert, it doesn't run at that speed out of the box)

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 9:05 PM

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^

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:06 PM

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Newer versions of windows 10 will even report your RAM speed.

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https://prnt.sc/11ehysy

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vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 9:06 PM

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long basalt Newer versions of windows 10 will even report your RAM speed.

I thought it always did no matter version lol

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:07 PM

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My current kit is 2800Mhz, (I just got an upgrade to 2x16 at 3200Mhz CL16, but my parents would be furious if they knew I bought it so I'm installing it tommorow)

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Nope, that was a feature added later in W10's lifetime.

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 9:12 PM

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LOL

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parents....:)

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CMT128GX4M8X3600C18

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found some! 🙂

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:20 PM

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Ewww

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3600mhz C18?

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Jesus, that's a BRAND NEW kit.

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And expensive too

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That's a 128GB 8x16GB kit at 3600Mhz CL18

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You don't need 8 Dimm modules.

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 9:22 PM

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sais only 2x16 on their web site

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:22 PM

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Uhhh no...

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 9:22 PM

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its the only thing i can find on their damn list!

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:22 PM

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If you read it, the SKU says 128GB.

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And this SKU is a Corsair SKU for Dominator Platinums with Capellix RGB. This kit retails at 1,500 USD

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 9:23 PM

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compact sun its the only thing i can find on their damn list!

Ignore the mobos rated list tbh

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 9:23 PM

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CORSAIR - DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB 32GB (2x16GB) 3.6 GHz DDR4 C18 Desktop Memory Kit AMD Optimized
Model:CMT32GX4M2D3600C18
SKU:6450421

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:23 PM

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You pulled a SKU for 128GB

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 9:23 PM

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oh, crap thats the 2x16 see, i always screw it up.....

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:24 PM

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Bruh, just ignore the QVL list for RAM

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Let me find you some decent sticks for cheap

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 9:24 PM

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want corsair rgb to go with my system 🙂 guess im being to picky

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:24 PM

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Oh jeez...

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 9:25 PM

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its for a birthday present 🙂

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Ballistix 3600cl16 for 2x8gb is 90$ like 110 for rgb

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:25 PM

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RGB RAM is damn near pointless unless you can get it as-cheap or cheaper than the normal RAM

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 9:25 PM

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99.9% of the time a halfway decent G.Skill kit will work on your computer, Corsair has good compatibility too

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Get ballistix rgb if you want rgb

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:25 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TtkgXL/crucial-ballistix-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-bl2k8g32c16u4bl Comes in Black White or Red heatspreaders.

Crucial Ballistix RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 9:25 PM

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well as i have just proved...I have no idea what im doing...gonna need to point and click at this point i think 🙂

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:26 PM

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No...

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You literally just take our recommendations.

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We know what we are talking about.

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Especially people with the Yellow color.

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They are Techies.

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Techies go through a bit of a vetting process and have been on this server for a long time.

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If you are just going to die without having Corsair RGB RAM, then https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rVwkcf/corsair-vengeance-rgb-pro-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-cmw16gx4m2z3200c16 is at least a reasonable price.

Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 9:28 PM

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Ntb then i guess

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The 3600 has a big gap between Corsair and ballistix

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:29 PM

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The difference between 3200 and 3600 isn't that massive.

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 9:30 PM

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On Intel it's not much, but AMD that's a huge jump, 10-15% gains on fps/benchmarks

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:30 PM

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Really? Even if you can tune a 3200 kit to tighter timings than a 3600 kit?

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 9:31 PM

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Yeah but in that logic you could probs tune a 3600 kit to 4000 r sum

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 9:31 PM

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Yes, for Ryzen the infinity fabric clock is tied to the RAM clock. The IF directly affects core performance.

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:32 PM

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Hmm, makes me wonder if my 3200mhz Ballistix kit can run at 3600mhz

grizzled bloom Apr 14, 2021, 9:32 PM

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Ryzen 3000 series scales up to 3600, 5000 series goes up to 3800

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Probably can

compact sun Apr 14, 2021, 9:34 PM

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cool thanks for the help guys!

noble rampart Apr 14, 2021, 9:39 PM

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hey is a r7 3700x better than a r5 5600x?

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considering the r5 is 370 and the r7 is 280

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:40 PM

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No, and Yes at the same time.

noble rampart Apr 14, 2021, 9:40 PM

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ok

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explain

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:40 PM

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3700X is better at Multithreaded tasks. E.x Rendering and Video Editing

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5600X is better at Singlethreaded tasks E.x Gaming

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The 3700X is also 1 generation older than the 5600X

noble rampart Apr 14, 2021, 9:41 PM

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ok

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but if I do many things (school, cad, gaming, etc...) does the r5 have a significant boost given it is almost 100usd more

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:43 PM

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In Gaming you should see a 10 to 15 FPS boost over the 3700X, depending on your GPU obviously (If you have a GT 1030 you would see basically no boost)

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 9:43 PM

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Get an i5 11400 instead tbh

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:43 PM

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What if he already has a Ryzen motherboard?

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KnucklesThinking

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 9:43 PM

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Well then 3700x

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Because that's way to much for 5600x

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:43 PM

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What if it's Canadian pricing?

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KnucklesThinking

vast meadow Apr 14, 2021, 9:44 PM

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Pretty sure micro center bumped the prices like that but still that means they'd be getting a 3700x for like 230 usd or something

noble rampart Apr 14, 2021, 9:44 PM

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long basalt In Gaming you should see a 10 to 15 FPS boost over the 3700X, depending on your ...

wab a 1060 3gb

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:44 PM

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You'd see no boost from either of those CPUs

noble rampart Apr 14, 2021, 9:45 PM

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ok

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it is a temp gpu

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:45 PM

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Unless you are in CPU bound tasks (CAD work, Video Editing)

noble rampart Apr 14, 2021, 9:45 PM

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until I can actually buy something

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and yes for cad

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maybe not much video editing

long basalt Apr 14, 2021, 9:46 PM

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I mean, unless you are working in files with over 1000 individual parts, you shouldn't have too many issues with even an older Intel CPU doing CAD work.

noble rampart Apr 14, 2021, 9:46 PM

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k