#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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grizzled bloom
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But yes real benchmarks are best, from experienced reviewers

barren ice
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Nope not free shipping

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But about gaming i saw many videos i5-10400f vs i7-9700k in all games i7-9700k has more fps

vast meadow
grizzled bloom
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Maybe a 5% difference, seriously not worth the extra money

elfin warren
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10400 peobs using 2666 rm instead of 3200

barren ice
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Whichs better than i7-10700kf or i7-9700k

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I7-10700kf is on 1000 qar in amazon its in offer

vast meadow
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10700kf is better than 9700k

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Especially if same price

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The f just means theres no integrated graphics

barren ice
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Aha which shall i get than i7-10700kf is more cheaper than 9700k

long geyser
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10400f+3060Ti > 9700k+3060 or 9700k+2060

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you dont do rendering on the CPU for gaming

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stop trying to spend so much on the CPU

barren ice
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What about i7-10700kf

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??

long geyser
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no

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you dont do rendering on the CPU for gaming
stop trying to spend so much on the CPU

barren ice
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I saw videos in youtube theres alot of difference between i7-9700k and i5-10400f

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Whatever wait lemme chck🙂

long geyser
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Did you look into whether they were set up correctly?

vast meadow
barren ice
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So shall i buy i7-10700kf than or this also no

vast meadow
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But 10400 would be better value for your use case but if you refuse to get i5 for some reason 10700k is better than 9700k

barren ice
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I will probably get i7-10700kf bcz its better than 9700k and i7-10700

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I also have to change mobo for i7-10700kf

void jolt
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its not better than a 10700

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they are the same

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just no iGPU and no overclocking for 10700

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otherwise, 10700kf and 10700 are same

void jolt
barren ice
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And 10700kf vs 9700k

grizzled bloom
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It'd be a shame to get a non-overclocking motherboard with a k processor though...

void jolt
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well what do you recommend?

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a Z590?

grizzled bloom
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Ideally, yes, but obviously more expensive

void jolt
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obviously

grizzled bloom
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It'd just be a shame to waste the potential of the chip is all I mean

void jolt
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agreed but budget concerns

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they can get a Z590 later if need be

long geyser
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if not, why are you trying to spend so much on the CPU?

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before worrying over high end CPUs, worry about high end GPUs

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this is a gaming build, so GPU > CPU

void jolt
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I keep saying

long geyser
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doesnt mean pair an i3 2120 with a 3090, but it does mean to not get a high end CPU with a now decent low end GPU

void jolt
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10400f and 3060ti or something

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perfect combo rn

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well

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close to perfect

hollow thorn
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And also, I doubt there's any big differences even in those benches, 10% at best I'd say

long geyser
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GPU upgrade be like 15% at worst probs

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if you dont try saving money with correct models

grizzled bloom
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10% in very specific game, less than 5% in most

glad pebble
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Heyo anyone have relatively cheap ram recommendations? Looking for 4x8gb ram 3000mhz. Running a i7-10700f 3060ti with a b460m if it helps

void jolt
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why 3000mhz

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oh B460m

glad pebble
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Motherboard

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Ye

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Rn i have 2x8gb patriot c16 series 3000mhz but i cant find them anywhere

void jolt
glad pebble
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So i was just gonna replace them

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Can you mix and match brands of ram?

void jolt
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why 4x8 and not 2x16?

hollow thorn
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mix and match not a great idea

glad pebble
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4x8 is cheaper yeah?

void jolt
hollow thorn
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Even same brand, different models is wacky

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2x16 generally same price (used to be cheaper, now about same price) for more upgradability

void jolt
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I prefer 2x16

glad pebble
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Okay lemme see

void jolt
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of the same kit

glad pebble
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Never realized how expensive ram was haha

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Thank you

wind karma
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I mean it really isn't that expensive, considering an $800-1000 PC would usually have about $75-80 worth of ram in it

naive pendant
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Anyone here ??? Helppp

wind karma
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mhm?

naive pendant
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My CPU temps are rising till 80c while pc is at idle and the load is 100% .... If I run a game temp comes down to 70 c.... Before all this my temps were 45 to 50 c in idle. Any thoughts on the causes?

wind karma
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open task manager and see whats causing 100% usage

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the fact that running a game lowers it makes me think its some sort of windows background process being paused when theres another load

naive pendant
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If I open task manager temps comes down to 45 to 50

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If I exit task manager temps goes up again

wind karma
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how are you measuring temps

naive pendant
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Afterburner, core temps

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Ryzen master

elfin warren
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Virus scan time

naive pendant
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@elfin warren yeah your right

elfin warren
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Malwarebytes or emsisoft

naive pendant
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I searched online the answer I got is malware attack

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Something

elfin warren
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Yup

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Malwarebytes scanner or emsi

wind karma
spark spade
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I did ask earlier but didn't get an answer, so I'll try again lol. Ryzen 5900 vs 5950. I've read alot about the 5900 being better cause the the 5950 is harder to cool which makes the benchmarking of the 5900 better. Is this true? Anyone have experience with this? If I'm looking to get into game design, which one should I do?

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I have a 5800 now

grizzled bloom
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If you're working with applications that will actually use the extra cores, 5950X is the option to go with. You will definitely need beefy liquid cooling, 360mm+ or a custom loop.
The 5900X does better in single core benchmarks, but not enough of a difference over the 5800X IMO.
It really comes down to what applications you'll be using for your game design.

void jolt
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5950x is spicy

spark spade
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That I don't know yet, I'm going to look into it schooling wise starting this summer. I've always kind of seemed a bit bashful with it, but after doing all this research on pc build then looking into schooling for it, I found its actually a vastly growing field and quiet lucrative. So im going to pursue it. But wanted to be prepared to use whatever school throws at me.

grizzled bloom
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Programming in general is a growing field, plenty of money to be made for people with the mind for it

mild jackal
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You can cool a 16c amd chip fine on a tower cooler like a d15 - just won't be as fast or quiet as something like the liquid freezer ii

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Heatpipe coolers like that won't saturate until 400+ watts

void jolt
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the EK AIO video has more coolers

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more different parts

livid sparrow
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A day of silence on this front Distraught

hollow thorn
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@void jolt don't think it does 3950x

void jolt
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in what regard?

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what do you mean?

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@hollow thorn

hollow thorn
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As in, I think the testing on the later vids only do 3900x oc

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not 3950x oc

void jolt
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ah

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im saying there are more devices for you to see and compare

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rather than just the ones shown above

winged tusk
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First time using Newegg hopefully it goes smoothly ZoupyScoffer

hollow thorn
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ballistix nice sticks

livid sparrow
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Woot, ASUS is waiving the repair cost because of the damage being from shipping

vast meadow
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Good lol they should not have tried to make you pay for that anyway

livid sparrow
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Yeah, it was screwy but I don't want to have to argue with them for days on what is okay for them to do for a product with a limited warranty, I'm just very relieved

oblique crown
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Is it possible that 2 perfectly functional DDR3 dimms to not work on a specific motherboard on which other work fine?

rocky beacon
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It could

oblique crown
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I have just purchased 2x8 1600 for the final upgrade for this PC before I give it to my father, and I can't use them, the PC enters a perpetual restart

rocky beacon
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RAM can be funky sometimes on motherboards

oblique crown
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Tf

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Any reason a kingston hyperx blu khx16c10b1k2/16x shouldn't work on H77 Pro4/MVP

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Also, any reason the motherboard on AUTO puts the RAM on 1333, although it's 1600?

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No other RAM in the PC, I used to have 1333 before. But I took them out, reset the Bios, and RAM is on auto

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Yet unless I manually move to 1600, it uses 1333

slate night
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why are intel mobo so much more expensive than amd

gentle acorn
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Pretty sure it’s since Intel mobos have the pins on them while AMD has them on the CPU

oblique crown
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Pins?

slate night
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true but still

gentle acorn
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Pins for the CPU to let it connect

slate night
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like for 200us intel you have no choice compared to amd

gentle acorn
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That idk about

hollow thorn
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@slate night not really

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B560 about same price as b550

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If you have 250usd total for cpu+mobo, you can get a 10400f+b560 for Intel, but amd offers nothing good for that price point

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3600 is 200$, no way you're getting a 50$ board, even a520 starts at 60-70$

slate night
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i mean right most of the 200$ range b560 are out of stock

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it sucks

hollow thorn
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What

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100$ b560m/ac was in stock this morning

slate night
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im in canada but and i want atx

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but anyway i bought an msi z490 a-pro

glossy dust
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owh

slate night
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11th gen suck

glossy dust
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let's see how they're priced tho

slate night
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i9 is a joke

naive pendant
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Did you do what I told you?

rocky forge
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is the 5800x no good?

naive pendant
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Complained to the CEO?

livid sparrow
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Didn't even need to, the shipping department saw the puncture in the box and said they'd do a 100% discount

naive pendant
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Also depending on time.

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It might take up to 3 weeks.

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I sent mine in in February 21st

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came back last week.

livid sparrow
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Jeez

naive pendant
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However thats cause cali shipping is trash

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Basically they yeeted a new one right away

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but fedex took the longest.

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On the good note, it wasn't damaged.

livid sparrow
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Dunno, I'm in TN, apparently FedEx just stabs the boxes here kekw

naive pendant
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Thats fedex for you.

rocky forge
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edex is trash

naive pendant
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Suprisingly not this time

rocky forge
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fedex*

naive pendant
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Most of the time it is

rocky forge
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even my dog hates em

naive pendant
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Also I was never going to pay for ASUS's GOD DAMN "REPAIR FEE"

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"Ah yes, Customer Induced Damage" KEK

hollow thorn
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Karen email to CEO time?

naive pendant
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Ceo Office.

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I did that

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lmao

hollow thorn
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Yes

naive pendant
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Racer told you to

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Yes, Im a Karen

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or the male equiv

hollow thorn
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Good

naive pendant
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I aint giving in to ASUS's BS

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Explained to them in a really long salty af letter

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How NuVuton makes fan controllers

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not "M.2 slots"

hollow thorn
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It just works

naive pendant
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When my root cause of the issue was m.2 slots lmao

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On the amazing note

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This new board I get SO Much more fclk

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Does FCLK depend on motherboard?

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Why did my old one only run 1866

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this one runs 1900

rocky forge
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amd no cpu drops today?

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or am i too slow

hollow thorn
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@naive pendant shouldn't, it could have been your ram not able to maintain it due to mobo tho

naive pendant
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Ah.

hollow thorn
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Well, soc voltage kinda thing might be another possibility

naive pendant
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Ah

hollow thorn
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Ah

upper aspen
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How many more years do you guys think an i7-10700F will last me for 1080p gaming?

hollow thorn
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Predicting the future is hard :(

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Maybe 5, unless major innovation

rocky forge
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FINALLY!

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I mangaged to beat the madness and got my cpu

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after 5000000 clicks on the overbashed amd website

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my nerves could not handle it

livid sparrow
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What type of cpu?

rocky forge
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5900x

livid sparrow
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You swiped one at msrp?!

rocky forge
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yup

naive pendant
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Is Zen3 plagued with issues?

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USB dropout

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Dead on Arrival

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Whea

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Not posting

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Ram light issues

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Driver issues

livid sparrow
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I think AMD rolled out a fix for the usb drop out recently

naive pendant
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Seems like everything is going wrong for zen3

delicate nacelle
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Okay question cuz I'm on a budget. Is there a motherboard with specs similar to the latest hero Maximus that's cheaper? Kinda not wanting to drop allot of cash.

livid sparrow
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Though I haven't heard of the ram and driver issues and I thought the posting issues was due to the needed bios update for 5000 series processors not being downloaded

void jolt
naive pendant
void jolt
rocky forge
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all i know is after 15 minutes (which felt like forever)

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I got one

naive pendant
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Lmao

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We in same server

livid sparrow
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I snagged a Chinese imported Ryzen 5 5600x for about 260.

rocky forge
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they dropped the 6900xt too

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not sure if it is worth the 1k

livid sparrow
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I dunno, I never touch AMD gpus, I usually stick to Nvidia

long geyser
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6900xt is more or less fine for 1k

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wouldnt recommend to average enthusiast gamer tho (just stay 3080 and upgrade other stuff, if 3080 price is $700)

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esp now that most 3080s seem to cost 900+, not bad price

rocky forge
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corsair vengance or cskill trident z neo

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both ddr4 3600 cl16

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gskill*

hollow thorn
# naive pendant Is Zen3 plagued with issues?

Usb was a rare issue, fixed now, doa is extremely rare, never heard of any other than pins broke through shipping, WHEA errors was a rare defect on 5600x, not posting is user error, ram light never heard of any issues

misty obsidian
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gskill usually has better value imo @rocky forge

rocky forge
long geyser
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3080fe is $700 (BB)

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standard 6900xt is 1k (amd direct)

rocky forge
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in stock tho?

long geyser
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it can be, not right at this moment tho

void jolt
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I fixed it by disabling CPU c-states and setting PCIe devices to gen 3

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but it was annoying, to say the least

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on Zen2 as well

rocky forge
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have any of you ordered mobos and stuff from Amazon

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Shipping timeframes for newegg is ridiculous

green terrace
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yes, what about it?

rocky forge
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just wondering if it was safe to do

hollow thorn
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@void jolt Yes, GPU DoAs are rare, happened to me too. Law of big numbers :p

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@void jolt anyways next agesa update, already out on some beta bios, fixes it

rocky forge
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Im just gonna make sure they are a under prime

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so free returns

warm path
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Wow just great... Scalpers are scalping that i9-11900K

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These scalpers need to go

naive pendant
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Wherever there is money to be made

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there are scalpers.

livid sparrow
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Imagine getting a fair price on a cpu that isn't even supposed to be out yet kekw

warm path
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Yea

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Not happening

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Cuz these scalpers ruin it

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First it those new 3000 series RTX GPU and now the i9-11900K

livid sparrow
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If you are buying a cpu before it is supposed to come out you are either getting it from a crummy business not following along with Intel, a stupid company that made a serious mistake or from a third party who is always going to charge you higher than the store and/or MSRP because the cpu isn't actually out yet

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I dunno why you'd even want to buy it now before they get on the market unless you are a test-bencher or a no-name reviewer who hasn't signed an NDA, just doesn't make sense to fork over extra for scarcity when the scarcity will plummet when it actually releases

naive pendant
# warm path Yea

Nothing you can do, capitalism. Nothing wrong or illegal about scalping gpu's, just morally unethical

warm path
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Yea

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True

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These scalpers just ruining the market not going to lie about that

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They don’t have to be so greedy

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There is a thing call getting a job

oblique crown
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My cousin has a gambling bar. You'd be amazed how much money are people willing to lose for nothing. Selling expensive watches or cell phones for 20% of the price because they want the cash at 1 am.

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20% might be an exaggeration 😄

livid sparrow
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Or you'd just buy a cheap stop gap like an I3-10100f if you really needed to use a desktop in the span of 13 days and then spend a lot less once they actually released, though if you really had the money to drop on a likely shady unreleased cpu going for nearly 1k you'd probably also have a laptop of some sort that could get you by reasonably well

void jolt
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pZQz2sp5yY dunno if this had been posted yet but new GN video about Intel 11th gen

News from Intel talks about the entire 11-series lineup, including the i5-11600K, i9-11900K, i7-11700K, and more. We're covering pricing, release date, specs, and Z590 chipset differences.
Sponsor: Buy Corsair's 5000D Airflow Case on Amazon (https://geni.us/cnVP60)

Watch our Intel Gear 1 vs. Gear 2 memory benchmarks on the i7-11700K: https://ww...

▶ Play video
livid sparrow
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Oh, did Intel drop the review embargo? Cool beans

limber dragon
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No, stores just have the cpus

livid sparrow
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I know that, I thought that vid was a full review, it isn't

grizzled bloom
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The embargo only applies to things gotten directly from Intel (or whatever other company) so if they can go into a store and buy it, embargo doesn't apply. That's why we had 11700k review so early.

vast meadow
grizzled bloom
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We still don't know for sure if the stores that sold it even broke their contract, because according to the stores they didn't have an embargo date, which would of course be a huge, obvious legal oversight so I'm not convinced it wasn't on purpose to get people talking...

naive pendant
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We are infecting virus's onto windows sandbox lmao

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can someone help me find a mobo

grizzled bloom
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For what processor and what budget?

elfin warren
glossy dust
grizzled bloom
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Maybe the French translator messed it up, but it was either on purpose or people are getting fired.

elfin warren
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oopsie

vast meadow
naive pendant
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@glossy dust i have 1600 already have 3070 and 5600x and its gonna be a gaming pc

glossy dust
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if 5600x you'll prob want b550 more ig

mild violet
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is there a big difference between 3200 and 3600 ram? is it worth it to get 3600

elfin warren
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Depends on the CPU

mild violet
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i9 9900k

elfin warren
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If you already have the 3200, probs not

mild violet
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no i dont have it yet...just pricing it out

elfin warren
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The price difference between the two should be minimal, if any. Get whichever you can afford

mild violet
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ok thx

lucid island
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is there an overclock software from laptop amd cpu 9 9500?

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their ryzen master one says this new cpu isn't supported

elfin warren
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What CPU?

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5900 mobile or 9500?

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There's a big difference

lucid island
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its in a asus 15 laptop

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ill check

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amd ryzen 9 9500hx

elfin warren
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5900HX?

lucid island
elfin warren
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Ryzen Master isn't for mobile processors, desktops only.

lucid island
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is there a way to overclock a laptop cpu ?

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using a software?

elfin warren
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Keep tabs on this piece of software. It doesn't support Ryzen 5000 mobile yet but it should soon. I think they're working on it as it supports Ryzen 4000 mobile cpu's. https://www.ryzencontroller.com/

lucid island
elfin warren
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yeah, most laptops don't overclock well or have good tools for it

livid sparrow
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Why is Customer Service rejecting Shipping's request for me to file a dispute over the price over at ASUS, what is this steveconfused

grizzled bloom
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I'd guess that's a question for @glad socket

livid sparrow
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It is ASUS's CS, this is a continuing saga of a borked RMA steveconfused

grizzled bloom
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Ahh I see. I think I remember you mentioning that.

glossy dust
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4600 😎

grizzled bloom
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I wonder who they worked with to make that, because they're definitely not one of the usual suspects for ram brands

floral breach
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What Mobo should I pair with my current cpu, I have a budget of like $250, and need it to be micro atx

vast meadow
floral breach
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very basic asrock board

vast meadow
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But pc part picker only has b365 boards for micro atx

floral breach
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hmmmm

floral breach
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looking rn

vast meadow
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Sorry sent wrong link

floral breach
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ASRock Z390M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

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this is my current mobo

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not z390 varient*

vast meadow
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That's the best tier of motherboard

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Z390 is the best intel chipset for 9th gen

floral breach
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It's the b series I believe

vast meadow
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You said z390m is what you have tho?

floral breach
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It looks the same, but that one has the upgraded chipset

vast meadow
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Z is better than b

floral breach
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Currently looking at the mag

floral breach
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vast meadow
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What im confused? You said you have a z390 tho

floral breach
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This is my thought

vast meadow
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That looks fine

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Look at asus and asrock tho too and stuff

floral breach
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Will do

floral breach
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Is that dual or single channel?

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$700 lol

vast meadow
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Emm wtf it has 3 dim slots

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Oh ooff nvm

floral breach
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it is really cool, not $700 dollars cool though LOL

vast meadow
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Wtf there's like hardly any matx z390 boards

floral breach
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Ik lol

vast meadow
floral breach
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Like one from each brand

vast meadow
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I think those or the msi mortar

floral breach
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That is more my ball park

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The mortar was the one I was looking at before

vast meadow
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But looks like it's all msi ones lol

floral breach
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True

vast meadow
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176 on newegg

floral breach
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asrock has one I think, but they always move to the hot item right away

vast meadow
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The msi mpg one looks okay but it also looks horrible asthetically

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Oof

cinder tree
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hi guys, recently i found a deal on amd ryzen 5 3600

floral breach
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It's in a literal black box lmao

cinder tree
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just wanna ask if I can use the same mobo to upgrade from ryzen 5 to ryzen 7

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are they the same socket

floral breach
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cooler master h200 or something like that

floral breach
floral breach
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"Yes" is a bit aggressive lol

void jolt
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some select ballistix kits 15% off on wegg rn

floral breach
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Why?

void jolt
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just a random sale

floral breach
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OOOO

void jolt
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ballistix is a favorite here so thought I'd share

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only looks like 32gb and 64gb kits tho

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I didnt really look too much

floral breach
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Those are some big kits to have sales on lol

floral breach
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Not that great of deals imo

void jolt
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I didnt say they were great, just deals and sales for whomever wants to take advantage of them

floral breach
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Thank you!

viscid solar
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Good day, I purchased CyberpowerPC Gaming Desktop Gamer Master 2065 Ryzen 5 2nd Gen 2600 (3.40 GHz) 8 GB DDR4 1 TB HDD 120 GB SSD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Windows 10 Home 64-Bit and need to upgrade the RAM. What item should I purchase? I bought from Newegg because they were helpful, but I guess that has ended and now I get a blanket statement from CS saying they wont' tell me what to buy to upgrade.

elfin warren
viscid solar
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Thank you for your response. I'm generally not a fan of downloading executables, but I understand that I am asking for help with something, so please forgive my pushback. Is there some other way to get you the information?

elfin warren
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Take off the side panel and get the motherboard model from that?

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Windows doesn't really tell you :/

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None of the listings I can find for that PC list ram speed or motherboard model either

hollow thorn
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Well, aida64 and hwinfo64 should, but windows usually doesn't have any easy built in way to find motherboard

viscid solar
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asrock a320m-hdv

elfin warren
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How much ram do you want?

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Also, go to Task Manager and tell us current ram speed pls

viscid solar
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current memory card is evo ptenza 8gb and I want a 16 gb and it only looks like there is one slot so I have to replace it entirely

elfin warren
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I need the speed please

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Like 2400

viscid solar
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I've been getting random issues for a month now

elfin warren
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2933

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etc

hollow thorn
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Well, I think they want a new kit of 2x8

elfin warren
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if it's too slow, I'd just recommend a kit of 3200

viscid solar
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the PC just randomly exits software and / or reboots

vast meadow
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That doesn't sound like a ram problem more like a loose connection or faulty hardware, what makes you think it's a ram issue?

viscid solar
#

oh wait, there is another slot

elfin warren
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Yeah

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Well, with only 8 GB in single channel, they might be running out of ram and hitting the page file and oopsing

viscid solar
#

when it started, I reseated the ram and it worked for two weeks without problem

vast meadow
elfin warren
hollow thorn
elfin warren
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OH wow

hollow thorn
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~74$ after promo

elfin warren
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Ye, get that

viscid solar
#

sorry, had to get my glasses and then take aphoto to get the ram info

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8gb PC4-19200 CL17-17-39

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PPR48GB2400C17S

elfin warren
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OH boy

hollow thorn
#

2400mt/s isn't great performance wise, anyways, if the cost is justifiable, the 2x8gb 3000mhz cl15 crucial ballistix kit I linked above (and below) is pretty good.

elfin warren
#

why 3000?

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3200 is $79

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Eh, doesn't matter much I guess

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Going from 2400 single channel to 3000/3200 dual channel will be a huge boost

hollow thorn
#

Didn't show up on PCPP I guess

viscid solar
#

ok, now I get to show you how dumb I am... as if I haven't already. Which is going to be most likely to work, and can I throw away the stick I have, or do I add to it?

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I just want my computer to work again.

elfin warren
#

I wouldn't add to it

hollow thorn
#

I suggest taking the current stick out, and buying a new kit, good one is linked above.

viscid solar
#

I use it for school and I hate when it does this, as I lose entire papers.

viscid solar
#

Thank you both very much. At first I assumed it was the pwoer supply, but every once in a while I get an error message and it refers to memory, so I think that's my problem.

hollow thorn
#

Also, keep in mind, ram isn't the only possible issue for crashes, there's some other possibilities. I can go find the commands in cmd for fixing windows corruption if you want to do that just in case.

viscid solar
#

I need the ram anyway, but sure

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just know I'm not a tech person at all

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I'm pretty proud of myself for getting you the info I have!

hollow thorn
#
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:)

viscid solar
#

so it would just start doing this 2 years after purchase?

hollow thorn
#

Sfc /scannow is fairly simple and fairly effective, dism adds on

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Well, nothing is made to break after 2 years, but things can fail

viscid solar
#

should I do this before or after the new ram? and do I need to format it or anything to make it work when it gets here?

hollow thorn
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Well, might as well do it now, since this is windows debugging that has to do with the windows files that are installed on the storage disk, and ram should be plug and play, but keep in mind, when you get new ram, the first time you boot it up, the motherboard might have to do some memory training, which will make the first boot take a while longer. @viscid solar

viscid solar
#

Thank you very much for your patience @hollow thorn and @elfin warren

hollow thorn
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:)

elfin warren
#

👍

hollow thorn
#

I should stop typing run-on sentences and start breaking them up into multiple sentences :p

livid sparrow
#

Oh, ASUS isn't even going to bother trying to fix my motherboard, they are just going to send a replacement instead uh

viscid solar
#

Scan did find a problem and says it corrected. Running again as suggested. I'm still excited to upgrade ram

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second time through didn't find error

elfin warren
#

Par for the course

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Cheaper to do that than fix a board

livid sparrow
#

Oh. Okay then. I mean, I don't think they even bothered looking at the issue, I think they just focused on the damage and called it a day, but as long as I get a proper replacement I'm not going to complain uh

elfin warren
#

That's kinda how it works

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To be honest

livid sparrow
#

Eh, I knew that it was like that for laptop motherboards but I didn't think it'd be the same for desktop mbs

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Good to know

elfin warren
#

OH yeah

limber dragon
elfin warren
#

Depends on what's wrong with them tho

limber dragon
#

Had ethernet port go out, rmad, and came back with flux all over a new port

elfin warren
#

gross

limber dragon
#

Not really, just wipe it off lol

naive pendant
#

ugh when is the 5 5600 going to come out?

elfin warren
#

Oh, non-X?

naive pendant
#

yea

elfin warren
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Probs when the 5600x sales slow down

naive pendant
#

if it's a buffed 5 3600 for the same bang for the buck then it should be one hell of a pc core

elfin warren
#

I mean, the only reason AMD does non-X cpu's is to get rid of bad bins or bad silicon. With the shortage right now, I doubt that will happen anytime soon

void jolt
#

wait

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isnt the -x moniker for good silicon and non-x is for average silicon?

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or is the non-x moniker for meh silicon?

elfin warren
#

Just lower clocks

naive pendant
#

i mean if the 5600x is the same value as the 3600x, the 5600 will be the better buy regardless of silicon quality

elfin warren
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Hopefully

viscid solar
#

@hollow thorn @elfin warren Sadly, the PC is still randomly exiting applications even after the 2nd and 3rd scans came back ok, but when the RAM arrives maybe that will solve the problem.

eager shore
#

what are relevant differences in the h570 and b560 chipset?

pale mist
#

B560 has overclocking I believe

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For the first time in a hot minute

livid sparrow
#

Ram overclocking that is

pale mist
#

True

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But a step in the right direction

livid sparrow
#

Yup, a very long overdue step, but a step nonetheless

outer hound
#

Anyone here have a 5950x in their pc?

elfin warren
#

B will never have CPU overclock, otherwise no reason for Z to exist. intel always done that

pale mist
#

You can technically jerry rig an OC

vast meadow
#

H570 is actually a more expensive chipset according to intels site lol

pale mist
#

But its not close to z anytime soon

eager shore
ornate portal
#

Hey guys, I'm new here. Didn't know newegg had such a massive discord community. So I recently bought these ram sticks:
https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232091?Item=N82E16820232091
After I installed them I started getting BSoD's, but only when straining the hardware with ram and cpu heavy games. I should add my motherboard is a predator g3-710 (u3e1). So I did a quick search and installed Speccy and me being not great at computer didn't really know what I was looking at. However I knew my RAM sticks I just bought are supposed to be operating at 3200mhz and on speccy it's telling me my DRAM frequency is 1064 which would suggest my RAM is clocking in around 2000mhz which brings me to my question. Are my new RAM sticks defective or is my motherboard too old to support the speed? Thanks for any answers.

limber dragon
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which slots on the motherboard did you put the memory sticks into?

ornate portal
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I pulled out the old ones and mimicked the placements

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Not sure what they are called but its basically one in one empty one in one empty

limber dragon
#

starting from the cpu and going to the 24 pin, you want it to be [cpu][empty slot][stick][empty slot][stick][24 pin]

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then if that stops the BSODs, you want to go into bios and enable xmp

ornate portal
#

Ok, what does xmp do?

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I will definitely check if put them in right tomorrow

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Thank you for that

limber dragon
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xmp is the 3200mhz memory, otherwise it runs at 2133

ornate portal
#

Ohh ok cool

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I was afraid my motherboard was locked to original hardware or something weird since I bought it assembled

limber dragon
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it might be, it might not be, just depends on how the manufacturer set the bios

ornate portal
#

Alright thanks man I'll let you know if it works, thanks a bunch

limber dragon
#

yup np

turbid monolith
#

I have a Asrock z370 oem motherboard and i cant find any way of updating the bios.

elfin warren
#

Cyberpower PC or Lenovo or something?

turbid monolith
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its was bought from newegg

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its a custom build

elfin warren
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Ah, one of the ABS computers?

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Or bought as in you bought all the pieces and put it together yourself?

turbid monolith
#

no i mean i made it from scratch

elfin warren
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Ok, what board exactly? There are several models of Z370 from Asrock like the Pro4, Extreme 4 etc

turbid monolith
elfin warren
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OH, an actual literal OEM board

turbid monolith
#

yes i can not find drivers on asrock

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i'm trying to enable 4g encoding

elfin warren
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Are you running multiple GPU's

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?

turbid monolith
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yes

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it wont work right

void jolt
#

Will it work on that board?

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No guarantee

turbid monolith
#

well it has 6 pcie slots

elfin warren
#

It's for compute useage so they may very well need it

turbid monolith
#

it can ready video card

elfin warren
#

Hmmm, interesting. Looking for info on that board and coming up with nothing

turbid monolith
#

i can benchmark 2 nd gpu but i cant use it

elfin warren
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What do you mean by use it? Are you trying to game with dual GPU's or something?

turbid monolith
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no im trying to mine with dual gpus

elfin warren
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ah, ok

turbid monolith
#

it recieves 0 mh on 2nd gpu

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and it crashes alot and freezes up

void jolt
#

Which two GPUs

turbid monolith
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3070 and rx 580 8 gb

void jolt
#

I guessed something like that

turbid monolith
#

i installed drivers for both cards

void jolt
#

Drivers don’t much like each other

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Having them on the same system will mess with things

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In bad ways

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I gtg now but that’s my two cents

turbid monolith
#

ok thanks

elfin warren
#

Eh, it's possible but you do need 4G decoding

turbid monolith
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yes but i cant unlock it with out bios update

elfin warren
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i understand but I don't think there are BIOS updates available for that board, being an OEM version. I'm still researching that

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What BIOS version are you on right now?

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I did find one on the Asrock website but it's version 4.2 dated 6/3/2020

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Probably the original one for the board

turbid monolith
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its the stock 0.01

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7/17/19

elfin warren
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There's a newer one on that page

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NOt sure what it has in it though for changes

turbid monolith
#

has a different name on motherboard

elfin warren
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It's not this?

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Ah, no M

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Interesting indeed

turbid monolith
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yes oem is it

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has no m on it not sure if that matters

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thats matx mothboard though

elfin warren
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The one in the picture isn't

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That's straight from their website

turbid monolith
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thats weird i thought only ones with m are matx

elfin warren
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Normally yes

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but IDK

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That board is an odd duck

turbid monolith
#

i just find it weird asrock carries no drivers

elfin warren
#

Well, it's an OEM board

#

I have a feeling it's a leftover from PC manufacturers that made their own drivers and such

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There's the same issue with the Pro4 versions sold in CyberPower PC's and another brand

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They're Asrock boards but Asrock doesn't provide the BIOS nor drivers for them

turbid monolith
#

you think it would brick if i used pro4 drivers

elfin warren
#

There are physical differences in the board itself with the layout

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Not sure I'd try because if it's the wrong BIOS it will brick it, if it even flashes at all

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It may not flash if it's the wrong one

turbid monolith
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im not gonna risk it

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z370m looks exactly like it though

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i might use that bios

hollow kraken
#

whats the best b550 for a budget of $250 CAD max

turbid monolith
#

weird i extracted the z370 bios file and it shows the wrong extension

turbid monolith
#

how do i flash a bios

elfin warren
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NOrmally you'd put the file on a thumb drive, restart the machine, enter the BIOS and there is an update option in the BIOS, usually under the TOOLS tab

turbid monolith
#

formatted usb thumb drive to fat 32 extracted zip inside and says no image found

fiery kernel
hoary cedar
#

Crosshair? Sounds like a knockoff Corsair.

glossy dust
grim jay
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guys

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what are the b450

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that i need to avoid

paper coral
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asrock

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low end

grim jay
#

my friend want to use his 3200 ram

vast meadow
#

If you're buying a b450 you should just get a b550, they start around the same price

sonic epoch
#

A little help needed. I am tech challenged and know minimal about this stuff.

I feel the need to upgrade my RAM

I would like to max out the capacity and would like them to have RGB.

My Mother Board is: ASRock H310CM-HDV

My Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz, 2904 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 6 Logical Processor(s)

Any Suggestions would be appreciated … Thanks in advance !!

marble knot
#

@sonic epoch white ram or black?

sonic epoch
#

@marble knot preferrably black

elfin warren
#

How much ram do you have now?

marble knot
#

so the best u can get is 32gb @ 2666 mhz

elfin warren
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Yep

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There really isn't any RGB ram at that speed either

sonic epoch
#

i think one piece at 16gb

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so shop for 2 - 16 gb @266 mhz?

marble knot
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or 1 32 gb

sonic epoch
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i have 2 slots

marble knot
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yep

elfin warren
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Yeah, 2x16

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don't get a single stick

sonic epoch
#

ok what else is relevant that i need to shop for

marble knot
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just a thought

sonic epoch
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ddr?

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pins ?

elfin warren
marble knot
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oops

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lol

elfin warren
#

We found the same thing lol

marble knot
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yep

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just realized

sonic epoch
#

do i need anything else ... just plug and play this stuff?

marble knot
#

yep

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baciclly

sonic epoch
#

thank you very much for your help folks

marble knot
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wait.. ur buying it?

sonic epoch
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no gonna shop around

marble knot
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ok

sonic epoch
#

i have the money just want to get the best deal

marble knot
#

ok

elfin warren
#

Won't find anything much cheaper TBH

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32 GB ram prices are sitting around 180-200

marble knot
#

corsairs pretty reliably for ram

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i love how ur paying more to get a slower speed

sonic epoch
#

so upgrading my ram will slow my comp down?

marble knot
#

no

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its intel it doiesnt rely on ram speed as much as amd

elfin warren
#

No, your board only supports 2666 which is relatively slow in todays terms

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WHen you go to upgrade the CPU and motherboard, you'll need to buy new ram again

marble knot
#

well..

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u could oc ur ram

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i oced my 2400 to 3200

elfin warren
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You mean XMP

marble knot
#

noooooo

sonic epoch
#

ah if i uograde my board do i have to upgrade my cpu too?

marble knot
#

generally yes

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i THINK i mean overclocking???

sonic epoch
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gotcha

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alot to thik about ... thanks again p/

gentle acorn
#

Will 10th Gen Intel work on a z590 or B560 board?

elfin warren
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Yes

gentle acorn
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Alright

elfin warren
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B560 doesn't overclock the CPU though so if you get a K processor, get a Z board

gentle acorn
#

Alright

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That was my next question lol

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Got any motherboards you’d recommend for the 10850k?

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For like $100-$200

naive pendant
#

Friend just asked me if a 5900x on the asus rog crosshair viii impact can handle the F4-3800C18D-64GTZN Ram(3800c18). Will it work?

elfin warren
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Should yes

naive pendant
#

Okay thanks tho! Will tell him

gentle acorn
naive pendant
#

@elfin warrenIs Flck at 1900mhz for Ryzen 5000 stable?

elfin warren
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Yes

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Should be

naive pendant
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Thanks bro

naive pendant
#

hmm

worthy dome
gentle acorn
#

Alright

worthy dome
#

but there's better black options

#

@nova

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@gentle acorn

gentle acorn
#

Cool

livid sparrow
#

Woot, just got my sketchily sourced, imported 5600x. Now I just need my motherboard.

livid sparrow
#

Bought from the American branch of a Chinese store that sells clothing, from California on Ebay

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Which had the habit of just forgetting to ship items

vast meadow
#

Lol why not just get a i5 10400f for cheaper and less bother lol

livid sparrow
#

Because I already have an AMD board, or at least had one. I am waiting on ASUS to send my replacement. Plus I don't usually build with Intel

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Actually, I've only ever had Intel when I used pre-built stuff like laptops and old, crappy desktops

vast meadow
#

Ahh yes nvm

grim hornet
#

Which cpu is the best for the 3070?

vast meadow
eager shore
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^

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if you just want it for game, then a 10400f or a 3600 would work

grim hornet
#

An" all rounder" cpu, for games, streams, basic video editing...

vast meadow
grim hornet
#

So in your opinion intel is better than ryzen

vast meadow
#

Is this a new build tho or are you upgrading

grim hornet
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New build

vast meadow
livid sparrow
#

And better stock

vast meadow
#

Then yes you can get i7 10700 varients for 300 ish, 10850k's for 300 in micro center if you live near one or around 300€ in Europe from most retailers

livid sparrow
#

Or you could try hunting on ebay for a deal, but that has risk and uncertainty

grim hornet
#

So 10850 x 3070 will perform the best

eager shore
#

there's a 10700k for $250 at microcenter

eager shore
grim hornet
#

I live in germany, whats a microcenter?

livid sparrow
#

An American electronics store

grim hornet
#

Oh

vast meadow
#

Nvm the i9 10900 is acc cheaper on Amazon germany

grim hornet
#

The cheapest i found costs 380€

#

Is it better?

vast meadow
#

They're pretty much the same cpu but slightly

#

Usually 10850k is better value tho

eager shore
#

if 10900 is cheaper than he should go for it

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unless he wants to overclocc

grim hornet
#

Thats seems to be a good deal

#

Which ryzen cpu competes with the 10850k

#

/10900

elfin warren
#

5800x/5900x

#

5800x is faster single core, less multi core

#

5900x is faster at both

livid sparrow
#

And the 5950x is unobtainium in its own unique mystery zone

elfin warren
#

mmmm

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5900x has faster single core

#

5950x is clocked lower

vast meadow
elfin warren
#

+20% isn't exactly slightly lol

vast meadow
#

ohh didnt realise there was that much of a diff in games

elfin warren
#

Not necessarily games but overall performance, yes

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SIngle threaded performance varies from 20-25% over the 10850 so I just used 20

vast meadow
#

fair enough

grizzled bloom
#

Games are more GPU bound at that performance level so you'll see less improvement

limber dragon
#

depends on the gpu really, I'm mostly cpu bound at 1440p ultra with a 5800x and 6900xt

hardy moon
#

You also have a 6900xt

#

Lol

grim wolf
#

so hard to find the 5900x right now though, at least in the US 😦

south hollow
#

Is X299/LGA2066 still considered viable at this point, power issues notwithstanding?

main pulsar
#

it aint worth payin for

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unless you get a bangin deal on a motherboard

#

also wdym power issues

inner shale
#

hello, could anyone suggest a good mobo for a i9-10900k, running 2 1070's sli doubling as a gaming pc and a plex movie server?

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under $350

hardy moon
#

The asus prime a is a good budget option I believe

inner shale
#

Ok. Ty

hardy moon
#

There’s lots of options under 350 so if you need any special IO like thunderbolt or something you should be able to find a board to suit your needs

limber dragon
south hollow
# main pulsar it aint worth payin for

That's the annoying part: I won a mobo from EVGA last year, and I've been staring at its box for months. Pretty sure it's taunting me. (Power draw vs. power issues, mea culpa.)

main pulsar
#

lmao

#

my 10920x not too bad on power consumption

#

but i mean, if you get the board for free

#

compare the cost of the cpu to the cost of a comparable cpu and board

#

10900x is 500

#

kinda not worth 500 actually

silver pewter
#

How long does a bios flash normally take? First time doing one and it's been about 10 minute's and the light is still blinking

main pulsar
#

oof

#

what board

#

and whats on the screen

silver pewter
#

MSI B550 Mortar

main pulsar
#

oh

#

bios backflash?

silver pewter
#

Yeah

main pulsar
#

welp

#

ask google ig

#

im not sure how long thats supposed to take

silver pewter
#

Was just wondering if anyone if anyone woth experience was on. I asked Google and read all sorts of things. Kind of like trying to figure out why you're sick with Web MD lol

south hollow
#

Not that I'd turn one down if the CPU Fairy left one under my pillow, but...

toxic skiff
#

Is the 5950 worth the extra $ over a 5900?

grizzled bloom
#

For what usage? Gaming? Editing?

toxic skiff
#

I want to get into Streaming, so ik I'll need some Video Editing power

#

Thats why I was leaning towards the 5950

grizzled bloom
#

Streaming live is more of a GPU thing(nvidia encoder specifically), editing for youtube videos later is more CPU.

manic hull
#

what are you going to edit, just gameplay?

toxic skiff
#

To start with, probably

grizzled bloom
#

Honestly it only makes a few seconds difference on many render tools from what I've seen

limber dragon
#

streaming depends on what gpu you have

toxic skiff
#

2080ti

limber dragon
#

if you have nvidia, use nvec

#

if you have amd, get a good enough cpu to x264 encode

manic hull
#

if just gameplay, a 5900x is fine and like Fal is saying you can use a Nvenc for streaming.

grizzled bloom
#

Yeah so with that GPU the live streaming will use the GPU a lot more than CPU

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And be a lot better quality

toxic skiff
#

Quasi related note then

#

What about a Video Capture card?

manic hull
#

if you have a 2080Ti its a waste, if you want to stream a console or something it is worth it though.

limber dragon
#

dont need a capture card if you're on a single pc

toxic skiff
#

Ohh

#

So if I want to stream my SwordNuzlock I'd need one

grizzled bloom
#

A different option related to that though, is to use a second GPU and use it as a dedicated encoder

#

Yes if you want to stream from you Switch you can use a capture card

toxic skiff
#

Oh ok

#

TLDR I should go with a 5900, and if I bumblefuck into some money later get a 5950

limber dragon
#

the encoder on the 2080ti isnt being used while gaming

hollow kraken
#

what b550 is the best for a ryzen 5 3600 paired with a 2060 and 16gb 3600mhz cl16 ram and 5 hard drives for mass storage and an nvme boot ssd

grizzled bloom
#

"Best" in what budget? Because there's $1000 boards. Just about any b550 (non micro) board will support all those features.

limber dragon
#

b550 tops out around the $300 mark

hollow kraken
#

max budget is $250 CAD

grizzled bloom
hollow kraken
#

i found an interesting mobo in the list

barren ice
grizzled bloom
hollow kraken
#

ok

#

i might have to go with the asus

barren ice
#

Can anyone tell me which is good in these 3 plz

#

Best one in these 3

hollow kraken
#

dont pay 500+ for a z390

grizzled bloom
#

That's QAR not dollars

hollow kraken
#

still

barren ice
#

Yes

hollow kraken
#

big number

barren ice
#

Fal u tell me

#

Its in my budget

grizzled bloom
#

Looking into it, one minute while I check known problems

hollow kraken
#

well try to save that money for other things

barren ice
#

Ok

barren ice
naive pendant
#

Just save and get a b570 msi creator board😎

grizzled bloom
# barren ice Check it than tell me

The Asrock board seems to have some BIOS quirks that make me want to avoid it. The MSI boards are nearly identical except the MPG has a second M.2 slot and an extra RGB header.

hollow kraken
#

unless you really need an extra m.2 socket and an extra rgb header get the mpg, but if you dont then i think you should save that money for something else and get the z390 a-pro

grizzled bloom
#

They're all the same price though

hollow kraken
#

are they?

#

did you change your currency to see what they see or no?

grizzled bloom
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Yeah and the MPG is actually cheaper in Qatar than it is on sale in the US right now

hollow kraken
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you checked with newegg?

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that sale ends in two days from newegg not sure about amazon

barren ice
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But newegg takes delivery also which make it go till 600-650

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So which mobo shall i buy plz tell mee

grizzled bloom
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Between the 3 the MPG has more features and a decent BIOS, so a good option if you want to use 2 M.2 drives or RGB.

hollow kraken
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and if they dont use 2 m.2 and rgb then they could go with the a-pro

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also both have a decent bios, just colored differently

grizzled bloom
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Both of the MSI boards have the same BIOS, I meant compared to the Asrock

hollow kraken
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ah gotcha

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the steel legend is the most expensive of those three i think

barren ice
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So Fal’Cie which u say?

hollow kraken
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pretty sure the a-pro would be the best option here

barren ice
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Msi mpg gaming plus?

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What Fal’cie says

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He knows well

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!!

grizzled bloom
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If both MSI boards are the same price, the MPG is better

barren ice
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Cyro which u bought?

hollow kraken
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i work as a computer builder, i think i know my stuff my guy

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i recommend the a-pro

hollow kraken
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friend of mine used it before and they still do

barren ice
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Look msi mpg gaming plus and asrock z390 steel legend these 2 r same prize

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N msi is 27qar cheaper

grizzled bloom
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The a-pro is good too if you only need one M.2 drive

barren ice
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Means 5$

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What will one m.2 drive do?

hollow kraken
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5 dollars cheaper?

barren ice
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U know im not good in these computer services

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So plz guide me if u can

barren ice
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With delivery in amazon im saying

grizzled bloom
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M.2 are some of the fastest solid state drives you can get. It's recommended to get at least one for a boot drive.

hollow kraken
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an m.2 drive is a thin looking ssd and the fastest storage device

barren ice
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ssd im buying samsung 970evo plus

grizzled bloom
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Ok, if you only need one drive then the a-pro will work fine.

hollow kraken
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yep

barren ice
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2 drive means if im buying 2 ssd?

grizzled bloom
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Correct

hollow kraken
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yes

barren ice
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Oh ok

hollow kraken
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well- 2 m.2 ssd

barren ice
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Can i do like this in 1 drive ssd and in other hdd?

hollow kraken
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yes

grizzled bloom
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Yes that will work on all boards

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(that have M.2 slots)

barren ice
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The features of 3 motherboard r same?

grizzled bloom
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Mostly

hollow kraken
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base features, yes

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added features not really

barren ice
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What r the changes in these motherboard

grizzled bloom
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How much RGB fans and such are you using? Do you want to use the motherboard to control them?

hollow kraken
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are you gonna use rgb at all?

grizzled bloom
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The MPG has 2 headers for RGB while the a-pro has 1

barren ice
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My air cooler is rgb n case

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N maybe gpu also

hollow kraken
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gpu is built in rgb i think

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air cooler would need one port

grizzled bloom
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One header should work for all that, if you want to save the money and get the a-pro

hollow kraken
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you could get an rgb controller to have more ports

barren ice
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I can buy msi mpg also and asrock z390 also

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Dont worry abt the money just tell me which is good in these 3

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🙂

hollow kraken
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well you're gonna pay for things you probably wont use

grizzled bloom
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Yes they all work for what you need, MSI has better BIOS and the MPG has a few more small features

barren ice
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Is msi z390a pro rgb?

hollow kraken
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like does the motherboard light up?

barren ice
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Ok can u check good mobo for me under 150$

barren ice
hollow kraken
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asrock has rgb on it and the msi ones dont

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the a-pro

grizzled bloom
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The MPG board lights up

barren ice
grizzled bloom
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Yes

barren ice
hollow kraken
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you sure thats not the red paint or lines

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but its only red LEDS

barren ice
grizzled bloom
hollow kraken
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red lights only

barren ice
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Yes

hollow kraken
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is your lighting going to be red then?

grizzled bloom
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I doubt that it's red only...

hollow kraken
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its red only

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ive worked with that mobo before

barren ice
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Yes its red only

hollow kraken
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its either red or off

barren ice
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Led light

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Can u suggest me good mobo till 150$ plzz

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Or 140

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140$ will be fine

hollow kraken
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what are you intending to put on the motherboard?

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like ram, cpu and gpu

barren ice
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yes

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Ssd

hollow kraken
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just an ssd

barren ice
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Ssd ram cpu

hollow kraken
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you havent picked a cpu yet or ram or gpu

barren ice
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Ifk abt gpu

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I have got everything mobo left

hollow kraken
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what are they?

barren ice
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32gb ram 3600mhx cl 18

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I7-9700k

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Rtx 2060

hollow kraken
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whats up with the high ram?

barren ice
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Didn’t got it?

hollow kraken
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are you gonna be making renders and 3D modeling?

barren ice
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Wait

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No i only play games

hollow kraken
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32gb is kinda too much

barren ice
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N online classes

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Editing

hollow kraken
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what sort of editing?

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like videos?

barren ice
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Yes

hollow kraken
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then nvm 32gb is perfect for those

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but i would still go with the a-pro

barren ice
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Wait i will check

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Ok i will go for pro just tell me whats the difference that pro dont have

hollow kraken
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well the a-pro is better than this one

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but this motherboard has an extra m.2 slot

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but less sata connectors for sata ssd's and hard drives

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and i think less fan headers

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so the z390-a pro is the best option

barren ice
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Ok

hollow kraken
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im glad i could help

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but i have some custom build orders to work on so bye

barren ice
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Ok thanks

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Theres only prize difference between msi mpg gaming plus and msi z390a pro

atomic fiber
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hi

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is someone is waking up here

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whats wrong with chrome

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it shows some other languages when i type

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i just installed the english font on the system

barren ice
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The prize is same for these 2 ram everything is same only company is different and color which shall i buy

naive pendant
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Question 🙋🏽‍♂️ I’ve been told 3600 mhz cl16 is the sweet spot for Ryzen 3000 series. Will I miss out on a lot going for 3200 mhz cl18? I’m mainly gonna be playing games, and do Audio Production.

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I’m on a budget as well just wondering if it’s worth going for the 3600mhz cl16?

elfin warren
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5-10 FPS in some tests on some games

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Generally 3600 C16 can be found for about the same price

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MAYBE $10 difference

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Unless in the UK or Canada

naive pendant
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Im Canada 🥲

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In*

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Its so expensive here, it hurts