#cpus-mobo-and-memory
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Nope not free shipping
But about gaming i saw many videos i5-10400f vs i7-9700k in all games i7-9700k has more fps


Maybe a 5% difference, seriously not worth the extra money
10400 peobs using 2666 rm instead of 3200
Whichs better than i7-10700kf or i7-9700k
I7-10700kf is on 1000 qar in amazon its in offer
10700kf is better than 9700k
Especially if same price
The f just means theres no integrated graphics
Aha which shall i get than i7-10700kf is more cheaper than 9700k
10400f+3060Ti > 9700k+3060 or 9700k+2060
you dont do rendering on the CPU for gaming
stop trying to spend so much on the CPU
no
you dont do rendering on the CPU for gaming
stop trying to spend so much on the CPU
I saw videos in youtube theres alot of difference between i7-9700k and i5-10400f
Whatever wait lemme chck🙂
Did you look into whether they were set up correctly?
I7 10700kf same performance as 10700k, f just means no integrated graphics
So shall i buy i7-10700kf than or this also no
But 10400 would be better value for your use case but if you refuse to get i5 for some reason 10700k is better than 9700k
I will probably get i7-10700kf bcz its better than 9700k and i7-10700
I also have to change mobo for i7-10700kf
its not better than a 10700
they are the same
just no iGPU and no overclocking for 10700
otherwise, 10700kf and 10700 are same
B560 Pro4 for this one
And 10700kf vs 9700k
It'd be a shame to get a non-overclocking motherboard with a k processor though...
Ideally, yes, but obviously more expensive
obviously
It'd just be a shame to waste the potential of the chip is all I mean
are you getting a 3080?
if not, why are you trying to spend so much on the CPU?
before worrying over high end CPUs, worry about high end GPUs
this is a gaming build, so GPU > CPU
I keep saying
doesnt mean pair an i3 2120 with a 3090, but it does mean to not get a high end CPU with a now decent low end GPU
You know what they use for those videos? 3080's and 3090's.
You know what you won't be using?
:P
And also, I doubt there's any big differences even in those benches, 10% at best I'd say
GPU upgrade be like 15% at worst probs
if you dont try saving money with correct models
10% in very specific game, less than 5% in most
Heyo anyone have relatively cheap ram recommendations? Looking for 4x8gb ram 3000mhz. Running a i7-10700f 3060ti with a b460m if it helps
Motherboard
Ye
Rn i have 2x8gb patriot c16 series 3000mhz but i cant find them anywhere
https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/BxTzK8
could get two kits of this
why 4x8 and not 2x16?
mix and match not a great idea
4x8 is cheaper yeah?
technically yes but its not recommended
Even same brand, different models is wacky
2x16 generally same price (used to be cheaper, now about same price) for more upgradability
I prefer 2x16
Okay lemme see
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083TSLDF2/ref=twister_B08QPSB7R7?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 this kit is only $10 more than a 4x8
of the same kit
I mean it really isn't that expensive, considering an $800-1000 PC would usually have about $75-80 worth of ram in it
Anyone here ??? Helppp
mhm?
My CPU temps are rising till 80c while pc is at idle and the load is 100% .... If I run a game temp comes down to 70 c.... Before all this my temps were 45 to 50 c in idle. Any thoughts on the causes?
open task manager and see whats causing 100% usage
the fact that running a game lowers it makes me think its some sort of windows background process being paused when theres another load
If I open task manager temps comes down to 45 to 50
If I exit task manager temps goes up again
how are you measuring temps
Virus scan time
@elfin warren yeah your right
Malwarebytes or emsisoft
I did ask earlier but didn't get an answer, so I'll try again lol. Ryzen 5900 vs 5950. I've read alot about the 5900 being better cause the the 5950 is harder to cool which makes the benchmarking of the 5900 better. Is this true? Anyone have experience with this? If I'm looking to get into game design, which one should I do?
I have a 5800 now
If you're working with applications that will actually use the extra cores, 5950X is the option to go with. You will definitely need beefy liquid cooling, 360mm+ or a custom loop.
The 5900X does better in single core benchmarks, but not enough of a difference over the 5800X IMO.
It really comes down to what applications you'll be using for your game design.
5950x is spicy
That I don't know yet, I'm going to look into it schooling wise starting this summer. I've always kind of seemed a bit bashful with it, but after doing all this research on pc build then looking into schooling for it, I found its actually a vastly growing field and quiet lucrative. So im going to pursue it. But wanted to be prepared to use whatever school throws at me.
Programming in general is a growing field, plenty of money to be made for people with the mind for it
You can cool a 16c amd chip fine on a tower cooler like a d15 - just won't be as fast or quiet as something like the liquid freezer ii
Heatpipe coolers like that won't saturate until 400+ watts
A day of silence on this front 
@void jolt don't think it does 3950x
ah
im saying there are more devices for you to see and compare
rather than just the ones shown above
First time using Newegg hopefully it goes smoothly 
ballistix nice sticks
Woot, ASUS is waiving the repair cost because of the damage being from shipping
Good lol they should not have tried to make you pay for that anyway
Yeah, it was screwy but I don't want to have to argue with them for days on what is okay for them to do for a product with a limited warranty, I'm just very relieved
Is it possible that 2 perfectly functional DDR3 dimms to not work on a specific motherboard on which other work fine?
It could
I have just purchased 2x8 1600 for the final upgrade for this PC before I give it to my father, and I can't use them, the PC enters a perpetual restart
RAM can be funky sometimes on motherboards
Tf
Any reason a kingston hyperx blu khx16c10b1k2/16x shouldn't work on H77 Pro4/MVP
Also, any reason the motherboard on AUTO puts the RAM on 1333, although it's 1600?
No other RAM in the PC, I used to have 1333 before. But I took them out, reset the Bios, and RAM is on auto
Yet unless I manually move to 1600, it uses 1333
why are intel mobo so much more expensive than amd
Pretty sure it’s since Intel mobos have the pins on them while AMD has them on the CPU
Pins?
true but still
Pins for the CPU to let it connect
like for 200us intel you have no choice compared to amd
That idk about
@slate night not really
B560 about same price as b550
If you have 250usd total for cpu+mobo, you can get a 10400f+b560 for Intel, but amd offers nothing good for that price point
3600 is 200$, no way you're getting a 50$ board, even a520 starts at 60-70$
just wait till april for the 11th gen release lol
owh
11th gen suck
let's see how they're priced tho
i9 is a joke
What did you do?
Did you do what I told you?
is the 5800x no good?
Complained to the CEO?
Didn't even need to, the shipping department saw the puncture in the box and said they'd do a 100% discount
Also depending on time.
It might take up to 3 weeks.
I sent mine in in February 21st
came back last week.
Jeez
However thats cause cali shipping is trash
Basically they yeeted a new one right away
but fedex took the longest.

On the good note, it wasn't damaged.
Dunno, I'm in TN, apparently FedEx just stabs the boxes here 
edex is trash
Suprisingly not this time
fedex*
Most of the time it is
even my dog hates em
Also I was never going to pay for ASUS's GOD DAMN "REPAIR FEE"
"Ah yes, Customer Induced Damage" 
Karen email to CEO time?
Yes
Good
I aint giving in to ASUS's BS
Explained to them in a really long salty af letter
How NuVuton makes fan controllers
not "M.2 slots"

It just works
When my root cause of the issue was m.2 slots lmao
On the amazing note
This new board I get SO Much more fclk
Does FCLK depend on motherboard?
Why did my old one only run 1866
this one runs 1900
@naive pendant shouldn't, it could have been your ram not able to maintain it due to mobo tho
Ah.
Well, soc voltage kinda thing might be another possibility
Ah
Ah
How many more years do you guys think an i7-10700F will last me for 1080p gaming?
FINALLY!
I mangaged to beat the madness and got my cpu
after 5000000 clicks on the overbashed amd website
my nerves could not handle it
What type of cpu?
5900x
You swiped one at msrp?!
yup
Is Zen3 plagued with issues?
USB dropout
Dead on Arrival
Whea
Not posting
Ram light issues
Driver issues
I think AMD rolled out a fix for the usb drop out recently
Seems like everything is going wrong for zen3
Okay question cuz I'm on a budget. Is there a motherboard with specs similar to the latest hero Maximus that's cheaper? Kinda not wanting to drop allot of cash.
Though I haven't heard of the ram and driver issues and I thought the posting issues was due to the needed bios update for 5000 series processors not being downloaded
I'm the female equivalent


I snagged a Chinese imported Ryzen 5 5600x for about 260.
I dunno, I never touch AMD gpus, I usually stick to Nvidia
6900xt is more or less fine for 1k
wouldnt recommend to average enthusiast gamer tho (just stay 3080 and upgrade other stuff, if 3080 price is $700)
esp now that most 3080s seem to cost 900+, not bad price
Usb was a rare issue, fixed now, doa is extremely rare, never heard of any other than pins broke through shipping, WHEA errors was a rare defect on 5600x, not posting is user error, ram light never heard of any issues
gskill usually has better value imo @rocky forge
where you finding these prices?
in stock tho?
it can be, not right at this moment tho
rare
happened to me
I fixed it by disabling CPU c-states and setting PCIe devices to gen 3
but it was annoying, to say the least
on Zen2 as well
have any of you ordered mobos and stuff from Amazon
Shipping timeframes for newegg is ridiculous
yes, what about it?
just wondering if it was safe to do
@void jolt Yes, GPU DoAs are rare, happened to me too. Law of big numbers :p
@void jolt anyways next agesa update, already out on some beta bios, fixes it
Imagine getting a fair price on a cpu that isn't even supposed to be out yet 
Yea
Not happening
Cuz these scalpers ruin it
First it those new 3000 series RTX GPU and now the i9-11900K
If you are buying a cpu before it is supposed to come out you are either getting it from a crummy business not following along with Intel, a stupid company that made a serious mistake or from a third party who is always going to charge you higher than the store and/or MSRP because the cpu isn't actually out yet
I dunno why you'd even want to buy it now before they get on the market unless you are a test-bencher or a no-name reviewer who hasn't signed an NDA, just doesn't make sense to fork over extra for scarcity when the scarcity will plummet when it actually releases
Nothing you can do, capitalism. Nothing wrong or illegal about scalping gpu's, just morally unethical
Yea
True
These scalpers just ruining the market not going to lie about that
They don’t have to be so greedy
There is a thing call getting a job
If I'd make 10k a month, I'd drop the buck for double price, if I'd need it. It's mostly a matter of do I need it, can I afford it, do I care if I pay double price? Many* Other people lose money on gambling and many other worse things than overpriced cpus or gpus or cars.
My cousin has a gambling bar. You'd be amazed how much money are people willing to lose for nothing. Selling expensive watches or cell phones for 20% of the price because they want the cash at 1 am.
20% might be an exaggeration 😄
Or you'd just buy a cheap stop gap like an I3-10100f if you really needed to use a desktop in the span of 13 days and then spend a lot less once they actually released, though if you really had the money to drop on a likely shady unreleased cpu going for nearly 1k you'd probably also have a laptop of some sort that could get you by reasonably well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pZQz2sp5yY dunno if this had been posted yet but new GN video about Intel 11th gen
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Oh, did Intel drop the review embargo? Cool beans
No, stores just have the cpus
I know that, I thought that vid was a full review, it isn't
The embargo only applies to things gotten directly from Intel (or whatever other company) so if they can go into a store and buy it, embargo doesn't apply. That's why we had 11700k review so early.
Intel aint gonna like that store tho xd
We still don't know for sure if the stores that sold it even broke their contract, because according to the stores they didn't have an embargo date, which would of course be a huge, obvious legal oversight so I'm not convinced it wasn't on purpose to get people talking...
We are infecting virus's onto windows sandbox lmao
can someone help me find a mobo
For what processor and what budget?
They came from France, I think Intel was released early there?
just tell us your budget and preferred usage of the pc and ppl will give u suggestion on what system is best for your money
Maybe the French translator messed it up, but it was either on purpose or people are getting fired.
oopsie
That would be a big oversight lol
@glossy dust i have 1600 already have 3070 and 5600x and its gonna be a gaming pc
if 5600x you'll prob want b550 more ig
is there a big difference between 3200 and 3600 ram? is it worth it to get 3600
Depends on the CPU
i9 9900k
If you already have the 3200, probs not
no i dont have it yet...just pricing it out
The price difference between the two should be minimal, if any. Get whichever you can afford
ok thx
is there an overclock software from laptop amd cpu 9 9500?
their ryzen master one says this new cpu isn't supported
i assume mobile? iy
its in a asus 15 laptop
ill check
amd ryzen 9 9500hx
5900HX?
Ryzen Master isn't for mobile processors, desktops only.
Keep tabs on this piece of software. It doesn't support Ryzen 5000 mobile yet but it should soon. I think they're working on it as it supports Ryzen 4000 mobile cpu's. https://www.ryzencontroller.com/
ok thaanks. right now i just have general profiles i can choose via asus rog armoury but cant tweak it or have a lot of control
yeah, most laptops don't overclock well or have good tools for it
Why is Customer Service rejecting Shipping's request for me to file a dispute over the price over at ASUS, what is this 
I'd guess that's a question for @glad socket
It is ASUS's CS, this is a continuing saga of a borked RMA 
Ahh I see. I think I remember you mentioning that.
I wonder who they worked with to make that, because they're definitely not one of the usual suspects for ram brands
What Mobo should I pair with my current cpu, I have a budget of like $250, and need it to be micro atx
What chipset do you have atm? B360 or a h series?
very basic asrock board
But pc part picker only has b365 boards for micro atx
hmmmm
looking rn
Sorry sent wrong link
ASRock Z390M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
this is my current mobo
not z390 varient*
It's the b series I believe
You said z390m is what you have tho?
It looks the same, but that one has the upgraded chipset
Z is better than b
Currently looking at the mag
I know, I have the lower quality version
MAG Z390M MORTAR gaming motherboard sports Military style with Extended heatsink design for better thermal solution, Intel LAN, Intel CNVi ready, Core Boost, DDR4 Boost, Core Boost, Twin Turbo M.2 and USB 3.1 Gen2 connector
What im confused? You said you have a z390 tho
This is my thought
Will do
it is really cool, not $700 dollars cool though LOL
Ik lol
Something like this also looks okay https://www.newegg.com/p/1JW-001M-00A41?&quicklink=true
Like one from each brand
I think those or the msi mortar
But looks like it's all msi ones lol
True
176 on newegg
asrock has one I think, but they always move to the hot item right away
hi guys, recently i found a deal on amd ryzen 5 3600
It's in a literal black box lmao
just wanna ask if I can use the same mobo to upgrade from ryzen 5 to ryzen 7
are they the same socket
cooler master h200 or something like that
If they are the same gen you should be able too
Yes
"Yes" is a bit aggressive lol
some select ballistix kits 15% off on wegg rn
Why?
just a random sale
OOOO
ballistix is a favorite here so thought I'd share
only looks like 32gb and 64gb kits tho
I didnt really look too much
Those are some big kits to have sales on lol
Not that great of deals imo
I didnt say they were great, just deals and sales for whomever wants to take advantage of them
Thank you!
Good day, I purchased CyberpowerPC Gaming Desktop Gamer Master 2065 Ryzen 5 2nd Gen 2600 (3.40 GHz) 8 GB DDR4 1 TB HDD 120 GB SSD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Windows 10 Home 64-Bit and need to upgrade the RAM. What item should I purchase? I bought from Newegg because they were helpful, but I guess that has ended and now I get a blanket statement from CS saying they wont' tell me what to buy to upgrade.
Can you download and run this, then go to the motherboard tab and tell us what it is please? https://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/cpu-z_1.95-en.exe
Thank you for your response. I'm generally not a fan of downloading executables, but I understand that I am asking for help with something, so please forgive my pushback. Is there some other way to get you the information?
Take off the side panel and get the motherboard model from that?
Windows doesn't really tell you :/
None of the listings I can find for that PC list ram speed or motherboard model either
Well, aida64 and hwinfo64 should, but windows usually doesn't have any easy built in way to find motherboard
asrock a320m-hdv
They don't want to download things
How much ram do you want?
Also, go to Task Manager and tell us current ram speed pls
current memory card is evo ptenza 8gb and I want a 16 gb and it only looks like there is one slot so I have to replace it entirely
I've been getting random issues for a month now
Well, I think they want a new kit of 2x8
if it's too slow, I'd just recommend a kit of 3200
the PC just randomly exits software and / or reboots
That doesn't sound like a ram problem more like a loose connection or faulty hardware, what makes you think it's a ram issue?
oh wait, there is another slot
Yeah
Well, with only 8 GB in single channel, they might be running out of ram and hitting the page file and oopsing
when it started, I reseated the ram and it worked for two weeks without problem
Yes but it shouldn't randomly reboot
Since we don't know what speed the ram is, I'd recommend a new 3200 mhz kit for dual channel and better speed anyway https://www.amazon.com/OLOy-288-Pin-Desktop-Gaming-MD4U0832160BJ0DA/dp/B088T2KNZ4/ref=sr_1_11?dchild=1&keywords=ddr4+3200&qid=1616165631&sr=8-11
This is also at a pretty decent price
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164179
OH wow
~74$ after promo
Ye, get that
sorry, had to get my glasses and then take aphoto to get the ram info
8gb PC4-19200 CL17-17-39
PPR48GB2400C17S
OH boy
2400mt/s isn't great performance wise, anyways, if the cost is justifiable, the 2x8gb 3000mhz cl15 crucial ballistix kit I linked above (and below) is pretty good.
why 3000?
3200 is $79
Eh, doesn't matter much I guess
Going from 2400 single channel to 3000/3200 dual channel will be a huge boost
Didn't show up on PCPP I guess
ok, now I get to show you how dumb I am... as if I haven't already. Which is going to be most likely to work, and can I throw away the stick I have, or do I add to it?
I just want my computer to work again.
I wouldn't add to it
I suggest taking the current stick out, and buying a new kit, good one is linked above.
I use it for school and I hate when it does this, as I lose entire papers.
I'd buy and install this https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164179
Thank you both very much. At first I assumed it was the pwoer supply, but every once in a while I get an error message and it refers to memory, so I think that's my problem.
Also, keep in mind, ram isn't the only possible issue for crashes, there's some other possibilities. I can go find the commands in cmd for fixing windows corruption if you want to do that just in case.
I need the ram anyway, but sure
just know I'm not a tech person at all
I'm pretty proud of myself for getting you the info I have!
I'll just link 2 guides since they explain better than I can
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-use-sfc-scannow-command-fix-problems-windows-10
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-use-dism-command-line-utility-repair-windows-10-image
In this guide, we'll show you the steps to use the System File Checker (SFC) tool to fix corrupted system files on Windows 10.
:)
so it would just start doing this 2 years after purchase?
Sfc /scannow is fairly simple and fairly effective, dism adds on
Well, nothing is made to break after 2 years, but things can fail
should I do this before or after the new ram? and do I need to format it or anything to make it work when it gets here?
Well, might as well do it now, since this is windows debugging that has to do with the windows files that are installed on the storage disk, and ram should be plug and play, but keep in mind, when you get new ram, the first time you boot it up, the motherboard might have to do some memory training, which will make the first boot take a while longer. @viscid solar
Thank you very much for your patience @hollow thorn and @elfin warren
:)
👍
I should stop typing run-on sentences and start breaking them up into multiple sentences :p
Oh, ASUS isn't even going to bother trying to fix my motherboard, they are just going to send a replacement instead 
Scan did find a problem and says it corrected. Running again as suggested. I'm still excited to upgrade ram
second time through didn't find error
That's how most RMA"s work
Par for the course
Cheaper to do that than fix a board
Oh. Okay then. I mean, I don't think they even bothered looking at the issue, I think they just focused on the damage and called it a day, but as long as I get a proper replacement I'm not going to complain 
Eh, I knew that it was like that for laptop motherboards but I didn't think it'd be the same for desktop mbs
Good to know
OH yeah
Msi actually fixes boards in my experience
Depends on what's wrong with them tho
Had ethernet port go out, rmad, and came back with flux all over a new port
gross
Not really, just wipe it off lol
ugh when is the 5 5600 going to come out?
Oh, non-X?
yea
Probs when the 5600x sales slow down
if it's a buffed 5 3600 for the same bang for the buck then it should be one hell of a pc core
I mean, the only reason AMD does non-X cpu's is to get rid of bad bins or bad silicon. With the shortage right now, I doubt that will happen anytime soon
wait
isnt the -x moniker for good silicon and non-x is for average silicon?
or is the non-x moniker for meh silicon?
Just lower clocks
i mean if the 5600x is the same value as the 3600x, the 5600 will be the better buy regardless of silicon quality
Hopefully
@hollow thorn @elfin warren Sadly, the PC is still randomly exiting applications even after the 2nd and 3rd scans came back ok, but when the RAM arrives maybe that will solve the problem.
what are relevant differences in the h570 and b560 chipset?
Ram overclocking that is
Yup, a very long overdue step, but a step nonetheless
Anyone here have a 5950x in their pc?
Yes, ram but not CPU
B will never have CPU overclock, otherwise no reason for Z to exist. intel always done that
You can technically jerry rig an OC
H570 is actually a more expensive chipset according to intels site lol
But its not close to z anytime soon
don't they both oc ram?
Hey guys, I'm new here. Didn't know newegg had such a massive discord community. So I recently bought these ram sticks:
https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232091?Item=N82E16820232091
After I installed them I started getting BSoD's, but only when straining the hardware with ram and cpu heavy games. I should add my motherboard is a predator g3-710 (u3e1). So I did a quick search and installed Speccy and me being not great at computer didn't really know what I was looking at. However I knew my RAM sticks I just bought are supposed to be operating at 3200mhz and on speccy it's telling me my DRAM frequency is 1064 which would suggest my RAM is clocking in around 2000mhz which brings me to my question. Are my new RAM sticks defective or is my motherboard too old to support the speed? Thanks for any answers.
which slots on the motherboard did you put the memory sticks into?
I pulled out the old ones and mimicked the placements
Not sure what they are called but its basically one in one empty one in one empty
starting from the cpu and going to the 24 pin, you want it to be [cpu][empty slot][stick][empty slot][stick][24 pin]
then if that stops the BSODs, you want to go into bios and enable xmp
Ok, what does xmp do?
I will definitely check if put them in right tomorrow
Thank you for that
xmp is the 3200mhz memory, otherwise it runs at 2133
Ohh ok cool
I was afraid my motherboard was locked to original hardware or something weird since I bought it assembled
it might be, it might not be, just depends on how the manufacturer set the bios
Alright thanks man I'll let you know if it works, thanks a bunch
yup np
I have a Asrock z370 oem motherboard and i cant find any way of updating the bios.
Cyberpower PC or Lenovo or something?
Ah, one of the ABS computers?
Or bought as in you bought all the pieces and put it together yourself?
no i mean i made it from scratch
Ok, what board exactly? There are several models of Z370 from Asrock like the Pro4, Extreme 4 etc
OH, an actual literal OEM board
well it has 6 pcie slots
It's for compute useage so they may very well need it
it can ready video card
Hmmm, interesting. Looking for info on that board and coming up with nothing
i can benchmark 2 nd gpu but i cant use it
What do you mean by use it? Are you trying to game with dual GPU's or something?
no im trying to mine with dual gpus
ah, ok
Which two GPUs
3070 and rx 580 8 gb
I guessed something like that
i installed drivers for both cards
Drivers don’t much like each other
Having them on the same system will mess with things
In bad ways
I gtg now but that’s my two cents
ok thanks
Eh, it's possible but you do need 4G decoding
yes but i cant unlock it with out bios update
i understand but I don't think there are BIOS updates available for that board, being an OEM version. I'm still researching that
What BIOS version are you on right now?
I did find one on the Asrock website but it's version 4.2 dated 6/3/2020
Probably the original one for the board
has a different name on motherboard
yes oem is it
has no m on it not sure if that matters
thats matx mothboard though
thats weird i thought only ones with m are matx
i just find it weird asrock carries no drivers
Well, it's an OEM board
I have a feeling it's a leftover from PC manufacturers that made their own drivers and such
There's the same issue with the Pro4 versions sold in CyberPower PC's and another brand
They're Asrock boards but Asrock doesn't provide the BIOS nor drivers for them
you think it would brick if i used pro4 drivers
There are physical differences in the board itself with the layout
Not sure I'd try because if it's the wrong BIOS it will brick it, if it even flashes at all
It may not flash if it's the wrong one
whats the best b550 for a budget of $250 CAD max
weird i extracted the z370 bios file and it shows the wrong extension
how do i flash a bios
NOrmally you'd put the file on a thumb drive, restart the machine, enter the BIOS and there is an update option in the BIOS, usually under the TOOLS tab
formatted usb thumb drive to fat 32 extracted zip inside and says no image found
???
Crosshair? Sounds like a knockoff Corsair.

my friend want to use his 3200 ram
If you're buying a b450 you should just get a b550, they start around the same price
A little help needed. I am tech challenged and know minimal about this stuff.
I feel the need to upgrade my RAM
I would like to max out the capacity and would like them to have RGB.
My Mother Board is: ASRock H310CM-HDV
My Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz, 2904 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 6 Logical Processor(s)
Any Suggestions would be appreciated … Thanks in advance !!
@sonic epoch white ram or black?
@marble knot preferrably black
How much ram do you have now?
so the best u can get is 32gb @ 2666 mhz
or 1 32 gb
i have 2 slots
yep
ok what else is relevant that i need to shop for
just a thought
We found the same thing lol
do i need anything else ... just plug and play this stuff?
thank you very much for your help folks
wait.. ur buying it?
no gonna shop around
ok
i have the money just want to get the best deal
ok
so upgrading my ram will slow my comp down?
No, your board only supports 2666 which is relatively slow in todays terms
WHen you go to upgrade the CPU and motherboard, you'll need to buy new ram again
You mean XMP
noooooo
ah if i uograde my board do i have to upgrade my cpu too?
Will 10th Gen Intel work on a z590 or B560 board?
Yes
Alright
B560 doesn't overclock the CPU though so if you get a K processor, get a Z board
Alright
That was my next question lol
Got any motherboards you’d recommend for the 10850k?
For like $100-$200
Friend just asked me if a 5900x on the asus rog crosshair viii impact can handle the F4-3800C18D-64GTZN Ram(3800c18). Will it work?
Should yes
Okay thanks tho! Will tell him
Forgot to also mention preferably ATX
@elfin warrenIs Flck at 1900mhz for Ryzen 5000 stable?
Thanks bro
hmm
How’s this motherboard for 10850k?
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119369?Item=N82E16813119369&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-13-119-369-_-03202021
if you're going for a white color scheme, sure
Alright
Cool
Woot, just got my sketchily sourced, imported 5600x. Now I just need my motherboard.
How is it sketchily sorced lol
Bought from the American branch of a Chinese store that sells clothing, from California on Ebay
Which had the habit of just forgetting to ship items
Lol why not just get a i5 10400f for cheaper and less bother lol
Because I already have an AMD board, or at least had one. I am waiting on ASUS to send my replacement. Plus I don't usually build with Intel
Actually, I've only ever had Intel when I used pre-built stuff like laptops and old, crappy desktops
Ahh yes nvm
Which cpu is the best for the 3070?
Depends what you want to do with your cpu, technically the best would be the 5950x but it really depends on what for
An" all rounder" cpu, for games, streams, basic video editing...
Then a i7 10700 or i9 10850k
So in your opinion intel is better than ryzen
Is this a new build tho or are you upgrading
New build
No just better value atm
And better stock
Then yes you can get i7 10700 varients for 300 ish, 10850k's for 300 in micro center if you live near one or around 300€ in Europe from most retailers
Or you could try hunting on ebay for a deal, but that has risk and uncertainty
So 10850 x 3070 will perform the best
there's a 10700k for $250 at microcenter
well, not the best but good value ngl, if you're willing to go to a microcenter
I live in germany, whats a microcenter?
An American electronics store
Oh
It's a pc part store in the us, you can get a 10850k from Amazon for 300€
Nvm the i9 10900 is acc cheaper on Amazon germany
They're pretty much the same cpu but slightly
Usually 10850k is better value tho
And the 5950x is unobtainium in its own unique mystery zone
The thing is the 5900x which competes, is 2x the price for slightly better perf and 2 more cores
+20% isn't exactly slightly lol
ohh didnt realise there was that much of a diff in games
Not necessarily games but overall performance, yes
SIngle threaded performance varies from 20-25% over the 10850 so I just used 20
fair enough
Games are more GPU bound at that performance level so you'll see less improvement
depends on the gpu really, I'm mostly cpu bound at 1440p ultra with a 5800x and 6900xt
Yes only meant game perf
Depends what game as well
so hard to find the 5900x right now though, at least in the US 😦
Is X299/LGA2066 still considered viable at this point, power issues notwithstanding?
it aint worth payin for
unless you get a bangin deal on a motherboard
also wdym power issues
hello, could anyone suggest a good mobo for a i9-10900k, running 2 1070's sli doubling as a gaming pc and a plex movie server?
under $350
Look at some z590 boards
The asus prime a is a good budget option I believe
Ok. Ty
There’s lots of options under 350 so if you need any special IO like thunderbolt or something you should be able to find a board to suit your needs
bfv, rise and shadow tomb raiders, apex are all cpu bound, metro exodus is the only one that's gpu of those 5 games
That's the annoying part: I won a mobo from EVGA last year, and I've been staring at its box for months. Pretty sure it's taunting me. (Power draw vs. power issues, mea culpa.)
lmao
my 10920x not too bad on power consumption
but i mean, if you get the board for free
compare the cost of the cpu to the cost of a comparable cpu and board
10900x is 500
kinda not worth 500 actually
How long does a bios flash normally take? First time doing one and it's been about 10 minute's and the light is still blinking
MSI B550 Mortar
Yeah
Was just wondering if anyone if anyone woth experience was on. I asked Google and read all sorts of things. Kind of like trying to figure out why you're sick with Web MD lol
That's the tradeoff, true: anything short of a 9800x probably isn't worth it, and anything at or above that is around $500-ish and you're in 5800X territory apart from the motherboard part.
Not that I'd turn one down if the CPU Fairy left one under my pillow, but...
Is the 5950 worth the extra $ over a 5900?
For what usage? Gaming? Editing?
I want to get into Streaming, so ik I'll need some Video Editing power
Thats why I was leaning towards the 5950
Streaming live is more of a GPU thing(nvidia encoder specifically), editing for youtube videos later is more CPU.
what are you going to edit, just gameplay?
To start with, probably
Honestly it only makes a few seconds difference on many render tools from what I've seen
streaming depends on what gpu you have
2080ti
if you have nvidia, use nvec
if you have amd, get a good enough cpu to x264 encode
if just gameplay, a 5900x is fine and like Fal is saying you can use a Nvenc for streaming.
Yeah so with that GPU the live streaming will use the GPU a lot more than CPU
And be a lot better quality
if you have a 2080Ti its a waste, if you want to stream a console or something it is worth it though.
dont need a capture card if you're on a single pc
A different option related to that though, is to use a second GPU and use it as a dedicated encoder
Yes if you want to stream from you Switch you can use a capture card
Oh ok
TLDR I should go with a 5900, and if I bumblefuck into some money later get a 5950
no, if they already have a 2080ti, a "dedicated encoding gpu" as a second gpu is a waste
the encoder on the 2080ti isnt being used while gaming
what b550 is the best for a ryzen 5 3600 paired with a 2060 and 16gb 3600mhz cl16 ram and 5 hard drives for mass storage and an nvme boot ssd
"Best" in what budget? Because there's $1000 boards. Just about any b550 (non micro) board will support all those features.
b550 tops out around the $300 mark
max budget is $250 CAD
I like the Tuf boards personally
https://www.newegg.ca/asus-tuf-gaming-b550-plus/p/N82E16813119313
i found an interesting mobo in the list
https://www.newegg.ca/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-plus/p/N82E16813144325?Item=N82E16813144325 but i did also find this msi one which seemed interesting as well
Any one of those will suit your needs just fine, the 3600 isn't a super demanding processor
That's QAR not dollars
still
Yes
big number
Looking into it, one minute while I check known problems
well try to save that money for other things
Ok
Check it than tell me
Just save and get a b570 msi creator board😎
The Asrock board seems to have some BIOS quirks that make me want to avoid it. The MSI boards are nearly identical except the MPG has a second M.2 slot and an extra RGB header.
unless you really need an extra m.2 socket and an extra rgb header get the mpg, but if you dont then i think you should save that money for something else and get the z390 a-pro
They're all the same price though
Yeah and the MPG is actually cheaper in Qatar than it is on sale in the US right now
you checked with newegg?
that sale ends in two days from newegg not sure about amazon
But newegg takes delivery also which make it go till 600-650
So which mobo shall i buy plz tell mee
Between the 3 the MPG has more features and a decent BIOS, so a good option if you want to use 2 M.2 drives or RGB.
and if they dont use 2 m.2 and rgb then they could go with the a-pro
also both have a decent bios, just colored differently
Both of the MSI boards have the same BIOS, I meant compared to the Asrock
Yea most expensive n msi mpg is also that prize
So Fal’Cie which u say?
pretty sure the a-pro would be the best option here
If both MSI boards are the same price, the MPG is better
Cyro which u bought?
i work as a computer builder, i think i know my stuff my guy
i recommend the a-pro
Nice 😌
friend of mine used it before and they still do
Look msi mpg gaming plus and asrock z390 steel legend these 2 r same prize
N msi is 27qar cheaper
The a-pro is good too if you only need one M.2 drive
5 dollars cheaper?
M.2 are some of the fastest solid state drives you can get. It's recommended to get at least one for a boot drive.
an m.2 drive is a thin looking ssd and the fastest storage device
ssd im buying samsung 970evo plus
Ok, if you only need one drive then the a-pro will work fine.
yep
2 drive means if im buying 2 ssd?
Correct
yes
Oh ok
well- 2 m.2 ssd
Can i do like this in 1 drive ssd and in other hdd?
yes
The features of 3 motherboard r same?
Mostly
What r the changes in these motherboard
How much RGB fans and such are you using? Do you want to use the motherboard to control them?
are you gonna use rgb at all?
The MPG has 2 headers for RGB while the a-pro has 1
One header should work for all that, if you want to save the money and get the a-pro
you could get an rgb controller to have more ports
I can buy msi mpg also and asrock z390 also
Dont worry abt the money just tell me which is good in these 3
🙂
well you're gonna pay for things you probably wont use
Yes they all work for what you need, MSI has better BIOS and the MPG has a few more small features
Is msi z390a pro rgb?
like does the motherboard light up?
Ok can u check good mobo for me under 150$
Yes is it rgb like msi mpg and asrock
The MPG board lights up
Means its rgb?
Yes
.
Huh 🤔🙁
red lights only
Yes
is your lighting going to be red then?
I doubt that it's red only...
Yes its red only
its either red or off
just an ssd
Ssd ram cpu
you havent picked a cpu yet or ram or gpu
what are they?
whats up with the high ram?
Didn’t got it?
are you gonna be making renders and 3D modeling?
32gb is kinda too much
Yes
then nvm 32gb is perfect for those
https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16813119352?Description=z390&cm_re=z390-_-13-119-352-_-Product @barren ice this motherboard is $150 canadian but probably around $130 to $149 american check the price from your currency
but i would still go with the a-pro
Wait i will check
Ok i will go for pro just tell me whats the difference that pro dont have
well the a-pro is better than this one
but this motherboard has an extra m.2 slot
but less sata connectors for sata ssd's and hard drives
and i think less fan headers
so the z390-a pro is the best option
Ok
?
hi
is someone is waking up here
whats wrong with chrome
it shows some other languages when i type
i just installed the english font on the system
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The prize is same for these 2 ram everything is same only company is different and color which shall i buy
get the t force vulcan
Question 🙋🏽♂️ I’ve been told 3600 mhz cl16 is the sweet spot for Ryzen 3000 series. Will I miss out on a lot going for 3200 mhz cl18? I’m mainly gonna be playing games, and do Audio Production.
I’m on a budget as well just wondering if it’s worth going for the 3600mhz cl16?


