#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 165

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Hello i would like to upgrade my rig i currently have a i5 4570 16gig ram and a 1050

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im trying to decide to go ryzen or intel

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my spending limit is prob about 500$ maybe a small bit more

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i have enough storage/psu is 650w 80+gold

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i was thinking about getting a gtx 1650 with either ryzen or intel but not sure if theres any deals anyone found that are available still that arent soldout

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:16 PM

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@naive pendant you have 3 options, Good CPU+mobo+ram, Good GPU, or a slight CPU+mobo+ram+gpu upgrade

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:17 PM

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So this is currently have in mind from just browsing

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i5 9600k 16gig ram 3600mhx and a msi b365 mobo

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:18 PM

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You wouldn't need 3600mhz imo

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:18 PM

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its around 360 right now

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hm

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i mean its only 10$ more then the 3200

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:19 PM

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$10 for something imo

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I don't believe Intel uses the speed so it'd be pointless

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:19 PM

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You shouldn't get 3600mhz

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Because that board won't support it

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:19 PM

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^^*

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:19 PM

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hmm

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alright

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Non-Z Intel mobos limit ram freq

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Where you finding the 9600k?

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:20 PM

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amazon

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:20 PM

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I wanna know how much it is

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Ahh ok

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:20 PM

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its 200

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199

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Uh

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Are you near a Microcenter?

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:20 PM

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nope im in florida

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only have a bestbuy

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Rip

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Then I suggest ditch that, and go 10400+b460+2x8gb 3200c16 ram for likely less $

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:21 PM

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If you want Intel that is

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:21 PM

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3600 price been wack so imo 10400 is a better option

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:21 PM

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R5 3600 in stock rn at what I believe is msrp

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Or what used to be msrp

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:22 PM

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@gritty patio it was nice when it was below msrp at closer to 160

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:22 PM

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hmm will the gtx 1050 be alright

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Yeah I feel

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Uhh nah

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Get a 1650s

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:22 PM

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semi why i wanted to get 1650 atleast

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lol yeah but 500 ish limit on $

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is 76$ good for the ram or nah

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Hol up lemme see

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A little high

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For me lmao

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:25 PM

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This plus a 1650 super
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FLFtPn

System Builder

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Mm newegg has some 3600mhz ram for 69$

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It's not rgb

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It's just red

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:26 PM

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yeah i got that on my cart its 310 on amazon

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then the 1650 would be what like 200$ so thats my limit

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:26 PM

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It's msrp is like 170$, but stock has been weird

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:26 PM

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unless i just get a super and see if i can do it

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:26 PM

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1650 super

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Msrp is like 170$

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1650 msrp is like 150$

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:27 PM

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yea i seen a msi aero 1650 for 175 or something yesterday

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or something

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then supers are like 230

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which are a rip

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but umm if i was to choose ryzen

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:28 PM

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1660 super msrp is like 240$

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:28 PM

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would ryzen 5 3600 uhh not sure about mobo

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but same ram and 1650 or super

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:28 PM

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No

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10400 is just a better option atm

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Yeah 3600 rn is too much

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:29 PM

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hmm alright

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Like when 3600 is 160$, it's good

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But at 200$, it can't compete with a 10400 that's 155$

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:31 PM

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hmm now is it a good time or should i wait till the new year to get it

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:31 PM

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How much longer into next year?

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I feel late March is when we'll see big changes

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:31 PM

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hmm

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I'd rather do that

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:32 PM

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im pretty sure this current pc wont make it till then lol

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Sad

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:32 PM

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indeed

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isnt there box day for like canada or whatever it is

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:32 PM

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New lower end offerings will probably be so good tho

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No clue

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:32 PM

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i think thats tmrw or something

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Ahh

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Well what gpu do you have rn?

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:33 PM

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msi aero 1050

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lol

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Ohh

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Mm

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:33 PM

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yeah

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:33 PM

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What do you play lmao

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Boxing day is tomorrow

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Day after Christmas

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Iirc

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:34 PM

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currently playing ark,BDO,uhhh looking into cold war and maybe cyberpunk after they fix more bugs

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Bdo man

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:35 PM

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ye

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lol

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i love my stroker 😛

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Cold war and cyberpunk are going to be very hard to run

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:35 PM

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yea till the optimize more

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:35 PM

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I wouldn't bet on those two running well unless you have at least a 2070s/5700xt

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Hardly tho

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:36 PM

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hm i think the main thing is ark rn

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:36 PM

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I mean, when do they ever optimise, don't remember MW running any better lol

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Ark kekw

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:36 PM

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i get about max 40fps

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lolz

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yeah ik

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Dog game

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Looks like garbage

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Pls

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:36 PM

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ik lol

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Quit playing that game kekw

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Hurts my eyes

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:37 PM

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xD im a admin for a server soo kinda cant rn lol

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Like the only way to be able to run CW/CP well for you would be to use the entire budget on a 3070 tbh

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:37 PM

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^^^

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:37 PM

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hm

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:37 PM

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I was thinking that cause your i5 would be a bottleneck

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:37 PM

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i mean im super used to running sht on 20 fps

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lol

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:37 PM

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But the biggest bottleneck you have rn is your gpu

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Once you spoil yourself with good fps you can never go back xd

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:38 PM

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^^

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:38 PM

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lol yea im sure XD

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I have to choose between 5600x and 3700x

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:39 PM

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5600x

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Depends

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^^

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:39 PM

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If anything, resale value >:D

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:39 PM

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But yes if you're just gaming

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:39 PM

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There are some cases where 3700x can be better

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:39 PM

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I could pay 150 more for 5800x that would be painful

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:39 PM

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But 5600x better for gaming

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Plus I feel like 5800x is bad bargain compared to 5900x

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 5:39 PM

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5800x pricing is just wak

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:40 PM

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So 5600x safest bet?

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Yes

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Ik ppl make a big deal of only 6 cores + how future proof 6 cores is vs 8 and 10

gritty patio Dec 25, 2020, 5:43 PM

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You won't live long enough to see even 4 cores get utilized if you're just gaming kekw

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 5:50 PM

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hmm so seems like its 450$ if i get the gpu off adorama

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1650 is 150

leaden sleet Dec 25, 2020, 5:52 PM

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gritty patio You won't live long enough to see even 4 cores get utilized if you're just gamin...

Yep

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 6:06 PM

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What about gaming with chrome tabs, discord, Spotify open in background

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Idk too much about cpu utilization so I might still be fine with 6

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I also hope to do video editing + rendering though

warm path Dec 25, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Yes, I told you I completed my upgrade successfully. The upgrade was from a Pentium G3220T to an Intel Core i7-4790S. The temperatures are doing fine and I ran a test on Prime95 and max temperature with AVX disabled is 74C. The i7 also ran cooler than the Pentium at idle.

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Temperatures are in the 50s while gaming.

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 6:46 PM

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My i9 registers as an i7-7900X in Bios

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just went from i5 9400f to i5 9600k and 20gb ram to 32gb and got a liquid cooler

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 6:49 PM

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naive pendant My i9 registers as an i7-7900X in Bios

omegalul

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Pre production yayyyyy...

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 6:51 PM

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woooo yea babey

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 6:53 PM

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📎 20201225_105316.jpg

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It's also seeing my drives but can't boot off of them

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 6:54 PM

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that is unfortunate

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guess u gotta send the combo to me keeeek

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doesnt boot from nvme maybe?

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using latest bios?

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 6:55 PM

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It came optimized for tenth gen but I'm using a seventh gen processor, and I'm using an hdd ssd for storage and booting

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 6:57 PM

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but is the ssd nvme?

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 6:57 PM

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No it's a data one sorry

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Sata*

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 6:58 PM

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huh

lone ridge Dec 25, 2020, 7:07 PM

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any motherboard recommendations for the ryzen 5 5600x?

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with wifi

warm path Dec 25, 2020, 7:14 PM

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naive pendant My i9 registers as an i7-7900X in Bios

Do you have latest bios?

subtle thunder Dec 25, 2020, 7:21 PM

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why is my memory stuck at 50 percent when theirs nothing using it

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alot of it

carmine merlin Dec 25, 2020, 7:48 PM

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so if i have a ryzen 2700 with an aio cooler can i overclock it with no problem, never done overclocking before and watching youtube ._.

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 7:56 PM

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subtle thunder why is my memory stuck at 50 percent when theirs nothing using it

because theres no point having memory if it doesnt get used

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windows will expand its usage to fit the amount of ram you give it

sharp temple Dec 25, 2020, 7:59 PM

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hey, I just installed a 16gb stick of ram into my hp pavilion 16.1 (16-a0xxx), and the computer is running incredibly slower than it used to

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 7:59 PM

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hp keeeek

sharp temple Dec 25, 2020, 7:59 PM

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bruh

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the system used to have two 4gb 2933 mHz, and i replaced one of them for a 16 gb 2666 mHz stick

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 8:00 PM

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its prolly downclocking then

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dont mix and match ram omegalul

sharp temple Dec 25, 2020, 8:01 PM

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what should I do? remove the other stick and let the 16 gb stick run alone?

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 8:01 PM

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thats even worse lul

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just get 2x8gb 2933

sharp temple Dec 25, 2020, 8:02 PM

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i cant find 2933 tho

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I initially searched everywhere for 2933 and i cant find it at all

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 8:03 PM

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3000 should downclock just fine

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this might be alr as well

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083VWCZLQ/

sharp temple Dec 25, 2020, 8:04 PM

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my computer only supports max of 2933 tho, so i cant go for 3000

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 8:06 PM

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it clocks itself to 2933

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but just get 2666 if ur worried

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083W1BKWZ/

sharp temple Dec 25, 2020, 8:06 PM

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well, I have a 2666 stick rn, and its slowing my system down a ton

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if I just returned the stick of ram that I have and put a 8gb stick of 2933 in, putting my total memory to 12 gb, but with upgrading in the future in mind, would that work?

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 8:09 PM

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don't mix and match

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i had 3 sticks one time and when i took the random one out my perf increased 40%

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especially because i couldn't XMP

sharp temple Dec 25, 2020, 8:10 PM

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hmm ok, so If i were to take out the other 4gb stick and let the system run on the singular 16 gb stick would it run faster?

cobalt meteor Dec 25, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Tbh I never had a problem mixing and matching ram, as long as they have the same capacity

sharp temple Dec 25, 2020, 8:11 PM

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ah, then thats my problem. i guess ill just send the stick back and save up for two 2933 8gb sticks

cobalt meteor Dec 25, 2020, 8:11 PM

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And getting the faster ram clocked down to the other ram's speed

carmine merlin Dec 25, 2020, 8:14 PM

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so i overclocked my ryzen 7 2700 to 1.3v and 4.025 and my temps go to 35-40c underload, im wondering if i should go higher

sour musk Dec 25, 2020, 8:16 PM

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how much faster is the 1070 over the rx 570?
in 1080p

compact sun Dec 25, 2020, 8:21 PM

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anybody on that can help me set up xpg 4100 memory for my crosshair vII?

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 8:25 PM

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cobalt meteor Tbh I never had a problem mixing and matching ram, as long as they have the same...

same capacity and speed

cobalt meteor Dec 25, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Even if the speed are different I still don't really have a problem

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 8:34 PM

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as long as ur ok with being stuck with the slowest stick

tidal cairn Dec 25, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Does someone know how good is the AMD Ryzen 3 3200G

main pulsar Dec 25, 2020, 8:49 PM

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good at?

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being a paperweight?

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not really

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too light imo

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need something heavier

tidal cairn Dec 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Well specifically for gaming

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And some basic tasks

main pulsar Dec 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

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its a solid chip for 1080p60 gaming

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really cheap, no dGPU needed

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i would say the 3400g is the better option, because you get the vega 11 instead of the vega 8

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definitely worth the extra 20-40 dollars

tidal cairn Dec 25, 2020, 8:52 PM

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I just went on some sites with pre builds and saw that cpu, i made a list of components for a pc and i put a ryzen 3 3100 for that

main pulsar Dec 25, 2020, 8:52 PM

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3100 and 3300x are really hard to get ahold of

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are you planning on getting a dedicated gpu?

tidal cairn Dec 25, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Yeah, i am on quite a budget so i was planning to get a gtx 1660

main pulsar Dec 25, 2020, 8:55 PM

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you cant really get those anymore

tidal cairn Dec 25, 2020, 8:55 PM

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😢

main pulsar Dec 25, 2020, 8:55 PM

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unless you wanted to pay double what its actually worth

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 8:55 PM

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imo for dgpu low end intel isnt too bad

main pulsar Dec 25, 2020, 8:56 PM

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vega 11 smashes the 630 tho

tidal cairn Dec 25, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Well i live un Europe, and so far what i've seen they aren't that hard to come by

main pulsar Dec 25, 2020, 8:56 PM

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vega 11 still isnt all that great

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ive heard availability is better in other countries outside the us

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where in europe?

tidal cairn Dec 25, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Austria

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 8:57 PM

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main pulsar vega 11 smashes the 630 tho

thats why i said dgpu

main pulsar Dec 25, 2020, 8:57 PM

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ruby laurel thats why i said dgpu

yeah im just stupid sometimes

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 8:57 PM

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keeeeek

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felt that

main pulsar Dec 25, 2020, 8:58 PM

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tidal cairn Austria

when you order things online, what retailers do you usually use?

tidal cairn Dec 25, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Cyberport.at, Alternate.at, mediamarkt.at, amazon.de

main pulsar Dec 25, 2020, 8:59 PM

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and whats your budget?

tidal cairn Dec 25, 2020, 9:00 PM

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700

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EUR

vernal apex Dec 25, 2020, 9:02 PM

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I got an AsRock B450 Fatal1ty gaming K4. Looking at it its got two silver things to the top and left of the CPU socket. Seems like they can be removes can they? Looking to install an AIO but cant fit it unless i remove the top one.

main pulsar Dec 25, 2020, 9:03 PM

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https://www.amazon.de/AMD-Ryzen-3600-Wraith-Stealth/dp/B07STGGQ18

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i would suggest this cpu, but im not sure about pricing of other things in your area

compact sun Dec 25, 2020, 9:03 PM

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anybody on that can help me set up xpg 4100 memory for my crosshair viii?

main pulsar Dec 25, 2020, 9:04 PM

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@tidal cairn i can help you later tonight maybe, im busy now

tidal cairn Dec 25, 2020, 9:07 PM

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main pulsar i would suggest this cpu, but im not sure about pricing of other things in your ...

I wanted that cpu as well but i go over the budget

tidal cairn Dec 25, 2020, 9:07 PM

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main pulsar <@!334682645495545858> i can help you later tonight maybe, im busy now

Sure man no prob, thanks either way👌😊😊

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 9:31 PM

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update: im on the pc and it works 🥳

pulsar hill Dec 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CMMWFLK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_xRL5FbVDQ5GN7

Are these any good

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A ram stick of mine died awhile back and I was running on ram too slow anyways. So I'm looking for a whole ass ram upgrade.

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 9:36 PM

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quick question

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is 4266mhz ram bdie?

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gskill

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19 19 19 39 4266mhz

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 9:40 PM

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pulsar hill https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CMMWFLK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_xRL5FbVDQ5GN7 Are ...

never heard of them

pulsar hill Dec 25, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Neither have I

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 9:43 PM

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i mean worst case it dies and u rma

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NKYM62D/

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ive at least heard of SP

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and it has rave reviews

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 10:00 PM

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@calm lichen Look for the kit here
https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

B-Die Finder

Find Samsung B-Die DDR 4 memory kits on Amazon, Newegg and many more.

gloomy spear Dec 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Can anyone help me with my pc not booting due to my cpu

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I have a Ryzen 5 5600x on a b550 msi mobo and everything is turning on when I boot it up but there's a light saying the cpu is not showing or isnt working properly and there is no output on screen

strong aspen Dec 25, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Check the wires

split trout Dec 25, 2020, 10:53 PM

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I just built this computer and turned it on for the first time and it says to press del or f2 to go to the uefi bios, but when I press those keys it does not do anything so I am stuck on that screen. Can someone help me?

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I do workstation stuff on my computer, but it really isn't too heavy, and I play video games (tarkov, apex). Is it worth it to wait for a 5600x to be back in stock to upgrade, or should I just buy a 3800x as it is going for $320 at microcenter right now?

ruby laurel Dec 25, 2020, 11:14 PM

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naive pendant I do workstation stuff on my computer, but it really isn't too heavy, and I play...

depends how bad u think you need the upgrade

naive pendant Dec 25, 2020, 11:15 PM

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I really want to upgrade, current processor (5 2600) has been giving me problems

tall thicket Dec 25, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Merry Christmas! Can anybody on the chat help me with my memory frequency? Has corsair vengeance 32 GB DDR4 4000

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running on an AMD 3800 XT

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The memory is keep running at 2133 default frequency even after setup the XMP and change the dram voltage to 1.35V

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 11:39 PM

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@tall thicket Merry Christmas to you too, I'm guessing the Infinity fabric isn't liking running 1:1 with 2000mhz, can you try doing 3800mhz?

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(Manually setting frequency, not xmp)

tall thicket Dec 25, 2020, 11:39 PM

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@hollow thorn thanks! The frequency is not changing as using 1.2 V vs using 1.35 V

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Oh and another thing, how are you checking frequency?

tall thicket Dec 25, 2020, 11:40 PM

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I checked it in bios. it shows 2133 Mhz for both chips

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Because Task manager and some other software are not very trustworthy

Bios is good, alright

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What motherboard is it?

tall thicket Dec 25, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Also right now in iCUE it is showing 1064 mhz now with 15-15-15-36 with 2T instead of 18-22-22-42

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motherboard is gigabyte x570 elite

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Sounds like JEDEC defaults

tall thicket Dec 25, 2020, 11:42 PM

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still a newbee here, cuz this is the first time i switch to ryzen...

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Alright, in bios, let's try setting things manually, with XMP off, frequency to 3800mhz, and voltage at 1.35v

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My guess is the infinity fabric is trying to run 1:1 with the true ram frequency, as default, and Infinity fabric on 3rd gen Ryzen doesn't usually go past 1900mhz

tall thicket Dec 25, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Also I tried to use DRAM calculator to do some tweaks but cannot locate the PCB revision

tall thicket Dec 25, 2020, 11:44 PM

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hollow thorn My guess is the infinity fabric is trying to run 1:1 with the true ram frequency...

I will do that and update in here

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Typhoon burner should give you that

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(1900mhz -> 3800MT/s and that's why you should try 3800mhz in the bios to see)

tall thicket Dec 25, 2020, 11:49 PM

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how to specifically set frequency to 3800 MHz

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I can only see the DRAM voltage DDRVPP Voltage and DRAM termination. And in advanced setting it’s all timing control

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Hm

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Not very familiar with Gigabyte bios, but take a look around, it's usually not buried deep in a submenu

frozen heron Dec 25, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Hello I have a question

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Regarding motherboards

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Go ahead

tall thicket Dec 25, 2020, 11:59 PM

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@hollow thorn cool thank you very much it’s solved I think. It’s called system memory multiplier. I changed it to 38.00 and now it runs at 3800 MHz.

frozen heron Dec 25, 2020, 11:59 PM

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K so I got a crosshair vlll hero

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Oh interesting

frozen heron Dec 25, 2020, 11:59 PM

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And what’s the difference between the dark one and normal version

hollow thorn Dec 25, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Never heard of it being called that lol @tall thicket

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@frozen heron Slightly better VRMs and guaranteed Ryzen 5000 series support iirc

frozen heron Dec 26, 2020, 12:01 AM

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I got a 3900xt

leaden sleet Dec 26, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Still thinking between 5600x or 7300x

frozen heron Dec 26, 2020, 12:01 AM

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So shouldn’t be as big of a deal right

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Yea no that's not a big deal

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@leaden sleet 7300x..?

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 12:03 AM

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3700z

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x

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i bet

tall thicket Dec 26, 2020, 12:04 AM

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hollow thorn Never heard of it being called that lol <@!184463181630930944>

Lol idk but now it seems running on 3800. Now maybe another slightly skewed question. I’m running on a 3000 series Ryzen 7. My ram can go as high as 4000. But I know the zen 2 probably runs better with 3600 MHz. How should my timing be set up? The manufacture has 18-22-22-42. Should I follow that or change to a different value if I downgrade from 4000 to 3600?

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The default was 15-15-15-36

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Alright, here's the thing, remember what I talked about Infinity Fabric speed being 1:1 with ram freq? That's the reason for the performance gain from 3200mhz to 3600mhz (Infinity Fabric clock going from 1600mhz to 1800mhz), and why 3600mhz is preferred, and what people call the sweet spot.

tall thicket Dec 26, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Yes

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 12:08 AM

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and since Infinity Fabric clock max out at around 1900mhz usually, that's usually where you could get the most performance.

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@tall thicket Alright, do you have CPUz?

tall thicket Dec 26, 2020, 12:10 AM

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I’ll download one

leaden sleet Dec 26, 2020, 12:11 AM

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hollow thorn <@!736424384797081669> 7300x..?

Sorry 3700X

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 12:12 AM

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https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

CPU-Z | Softwares | CPUID

CPU-Z is a freeware that gathers information on some of the main devices of your system :

			Processor name and number, codename, process, package, cache levels.
			Mainboard and chipset.
			Memory type, size, timings, and module specifications (SPD).
			Real time measurement of each core's internal frequency, memory frequency.
		
		T...

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@leaden sleet depends on what you plan on doing, gaming, 5600x for sure, something more like editing, 3700x.

tall thicket Dec 26, 2020, 12:12 AM

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hollow thorn <@!184463181630930944> Alright, do you have CPUz?

Yes I got one and opened it

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Can you go to the Memory tab?

leaden sleet Dec 26, 2020, 12:13 AM

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hollow thorn <@!736424384797081669> depends on what you plan on doing, gaming, 5600x for sure...

I got 3060ti and planing also streaming but maybe with nvenc

tall thicket Dec 26, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Yes

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Can you take a screenshot and DM me?

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 12:14 AM

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leaden sleet I got 3060ti and planing also streaming but maybe with nvenc

if you dont use nvenc youre doing it wrong

leaden sleet Dec 26, 2020, 12:22 AM

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ruby laurel if you dont use nvenc youre doing it wrong

But with nvenc and 5600x it's ok for some years?

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 12:23 AM

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leaden sleet But with nvenc and 5600x it's ok for some years?

of course

gloomy spear Dec 26, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Hey can y'all help me with my cpu not letting my pc show any video

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 12:27 AM

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whats a good stress test/benchmark for cpus

devout mothBOT Dec 26, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Chinese Takeout#2113 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

gloomy spear Dec 26, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Dang

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

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@naive pendant Prime95

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Smallfft to be exact

gloomy spear Dec 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Ok how do I fix my cpu

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I need help

unkempt sandal Dec 26, 2020, 1:16 AM

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any ideas as to when the ryzen 7 5800x will be back in stock

potent dew Dec 26, 2020, 1:38 AM

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So for some reason bluetooth stopped working on my PC (mobo is B450 Aorus Elite rev. 1.x), I'm 99% sure I used it before with my controller and my phone, any ideas?

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It doesn't show up anywhere in device manager even when scanning for legacy devices, unless it doesn't have bluetooth in it's name

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Unless I've only ever used my controller with the connection that it uses on Xbox

potent dew Dec 26, 2020, 1:56 AM

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It actually seems like it doesn't have it based off of the Gigabyte website, Amazon says otherwise, though. Listing is probably wrong.

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Only the WiFi models have bluetooth

warm path Dec 26, 2020, 4:47 AM

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@ruby laurel hahahahah, I completed the upgrade successfully wi to out ripping a ribbon cable.

warm path Dec 26, 2020, 4:48 AM

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gloomy spear Ok how do I fix my cpu

What happened?

river ledge Dec 26, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Bruh this guy on tiktok said not to touch the pins on his cpu or it might break and he just bricked his cpu smh. And this isn’t one of these ones when they make a joke he actually broke it without knowing.

📎 image0.png

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Never touch the underside of the CPU

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There's capacitors where his finger is that you can knock off too lol

river ledge Dec 26, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Yea he probably broke it

tranquil silo Dec 26, 2020, 5:16 AM

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idiot lol

merry lake Dec 26, 2020, 6:18 AM

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damn

carmine merlin Dec 26, 2020, 6:20 AM

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so im overclocking my ryzen 7 2700 to 4.025 with 1.3v
[11:20 PM]
and everytime i restart it keeps going back default
[11:20 PM]
._.

vagrant cosmos Dec 26, 2020, 6:24 AM

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So when you overclock a cpu, you are using it’s full potential? Is there any downside to that?

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I’m worried if i overclock, it can over heat.

pearl zealot Dec 26, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Heat and power and stability

sour musk Dec 26, 2020, 6:30 AM

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omg

pearl zealot Dec 26, 2020, 6:32 AM

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Typically your cpu runs pretty stable at it's base settings. You can increase the frequency a bit, it will be doing more work. Increase it too much and the power you're giving it won't be enough, it won't be stable. You'll have to raise the voltage to give it enough juice to run at the speed you set.

This takes more power and generates more heat

carmine merlin Dec 26, 2020, 6:33 AM

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so about my thing

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it keeps going back to default on boot

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 6:33 AM

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I mean, Max boost clock is 4.1 ghz

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Why are you doing this manually?

carmine merlin Dec 26, 2020, 6:33 AM

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what else am i supposed to do

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Turn on PBO

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Put a load on it

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Let the processor do it's thing

carmine merlin Dec 26, 2020, 6:34 AM

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i turned it on bios it didnt seem to do anything

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Gotta load CPU

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base clock is 3.2, Max boost is 4.1

carmine merlin Dec 26, 2020, 6:37 AM

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i am a noob

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teach me master

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how do i load it

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PBO is already on

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 6:38 AM

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Cinebench R20

pearl zealot Dec 26, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Also prime 95, and really any common benchmark with a cpu specific section

carmine merlin Dec 26, 2020, 6:41 AM

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whats the official website for cinebench

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tons of bootleg virus when i look it up T_T

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found it microsoft store

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 6:45 AM

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WTF browser you using? First link is good. Maxon.net

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Or Techspot

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First two links from Google are perfect

carmine merlin Dec 26, 2020, 6:48 AM

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i got bing broo

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first 2 are bootleg websites

pearl zealot Dec 26, 2020, 6:49 AM

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Ditch bing

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Bing gives wierd links

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Google it all

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 6:51 AM

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Bing is BIG OOF

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Full of spoop

candid juniper Dec 26, 2020, 7:05 AM

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I have a core i3 9100 f what should I upgrade too ?

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 7:05 AM

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What motherboard?

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XD

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that's an AMD motherboard lol

candid juniper Dec 26, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Oops😅

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Hold on

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 7:08 AM

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kk

candid juniper Dec 26, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Asrock H310CM-IB

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Took me a minute to find it cuz I got a prebuilt 😓

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Mmm

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bad news

candid juniper Dec 26, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Yea

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I’m willing to get a new motherboard if that’s the case

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 7:15 AM

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You can put a faster processor in there

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It's not what I thought it was

candid juniper Dec 26, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Any recommendations?

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Looking

candid juniper Dec 26, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Oh thanks

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 7:19 AM

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I mean, you could put like a i7 9700 in there.

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But I wouldn't go any more than that

candid juniper Dec 26, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Ight thanks

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 7:37 AM

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Surprised to see people scalping motherboards lol

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;/

river ledge Dec 26, 2020, 8:11 AM

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naive pendant Surprised to see people scalping motherboards lol

Specially the white mobo s

burnt finch Dec 26, 2020, 8:14 AM

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What’s a good deal for 32 gb of ram

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 8:15 AM

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$150+ for the good stuff

burnt finch Dec 26, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Okay what about 64 gb what would be a good deal there

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 8:17 AM

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$300-$400

burnt finch Dec 26, 2020, 8:17 AM

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Jeez okay thanks for the help

river ledge Dec 26, 2020, 8:23 AM

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Well some 32gb g skill ram was 128usd yesterday idk bout today tho. It was 3200 mhz cl16 or cl18 I don’t remember @burnt finch

hidden rampart Dec 26, 2020, 8:33 AM

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Trident is 105 today

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Qr3mP6/gskill-trident-z-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gtzsk

G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

hidden rampart Dec 26, 2020, 8:33 AM

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elfin warren $150+ for the good stuff

not really

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135 should get you a real good kit

noble geode Dec 26, 2020, 8:45 AM

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Is this psu good?

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Montech Gamma II Power Supply 750W 80+ Gold Certified PSU, LLC+DC to DC Technology, Full Japanese Capacitors, 120mm Silent Fan, Flat Cables https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084QD3PNZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_uDV5FbFBCVZVV

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Or is a 650w enough

serene creek Dec 26, 2020, 9:15 AM

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can i find any ryzen cpus in stock rn for my friend for like $150

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worth it too

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not overpriced

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 9:27 AM

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does he already have the motherboard

faint ferry Dec 26, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Anyone know the fps difference between 3600 CL16 and CL 18? I want the Corsair Vengeance CL18 for the looks and since it's 20 bucks cheaper but the G.skill CL 16 is 20 bucks more.

hidden rampart Dec 26, 2020, 9:38 AM

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noble geode Montech Gamma II Power Supply 750W 80+ Gold Certified PSU, LLC+DC to DC Technolo...

no and let's take it to #cases-psu-and-cooling

floral jetty Dec 26, 2020, 9:43 AM

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faint ferry Anyone know the fps difference between 3600 CL16 and CL 18? I want the Corsair V...

You can find videos, it's a withing margin of error difference, like 1%

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Ah well, if theyre at the same speed it's more like 3-4%, up to you if that's worth jt

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 2:16 PM

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@faint ferry one is 20 dollars cheaper and the other one is 20 dollars more expensive. When actually playing games you won’t notice a difference between cl 16 and cl18, as it’ll likely only show itself in an FPS diff of like 10 at the most. Get whatever fits your budget and if you save money then put it somewhere else like storage or gpu

gloomy spear Dec 26, 2020, 2:31 PM

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warm path What happened?

Idk at all I think it's my motherboard since I have a 5000 series amd and I need to update it but idk how

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 5:26 PM

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faint ferry Anyone know the fps difference between 3600 CL16 and CL 18? I want the Corsair V...

1% difference

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just buy cl18

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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1%?

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XD

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Funny guy, can be 10% depending on CPU and games. gamers nexus did tests, some games improved 10+ FPS with 3600 CL16 over 3866 CL18

lilac raptor Dec 26, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Hey. So, curious question. I had made a purchase under the assumption I was buying a Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero, as the pictures and search suggested, but ended up receiving a Hero instead. Is there any major differences in the two that perhaps a spec sheet doesn't list and are the differences big enough to contest the order? I wanted the Dark Hero, but can't see massive differences and if there isn't anything major, don't want to argue to purchase since it still wasn't a bad price.

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It was horribly false advertised, but, I can live with it if it changes nothing that matters. Ports I wanted all seem to be still be there too.

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 6:30 PM

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I mean, if the listing stated Dark Hero and you got a regular HERO, I'd contest it simply on the grounds that you didn't get what you paid for

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 6:31 PM

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^^^^^^

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theyll prolly partial refund keeeek

lilac raptor Dec 26, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Thought about it, but I got it for less than the Hero is normally priced at, whereas the Dark Hero itself retails even higher.

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 6:31 PM

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There are slight differences in the power VRM's and BIOs but nothing majoy

lilac raptor Dec 26, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Hm. Never thought about that.

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 6:31 PM

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lilac raptor Thought about it, but I got it for less than the Hero is normally priced at, whe...

still complain

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worst case they ask for it back and u say no

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omegalul

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 6:32 PM

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And a passive HS on the chipset instead of a fan

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 6:32 PM

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elfin warren And a passive HS on the chipset instead of a fan

thats a bonus imo

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Both are great, both will work well with even 5950x, etc

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Lol

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My GPU sits literally right on top of my chipset fan

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New case has a vert mount GPU 😉

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 6:33 PM

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fam kills self and you need to disable it unless u want a crunchy sounding motherboard keeeek

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 6:33 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-liar-liar-its-totally-fine-really-is-it-friday-yet-gif-11869168

Tenor

lilac raptor Dec 26, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Alright. Thank you for the advice.

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 6:35 PM

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i just plan to rack everything

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so idc abt noise ill slam the fans to 10000000000%

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keeeek

stray dragon Dec 26, 2020, 7:19 PM

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I was gonna talk, you seem to have been talking about this just now. I accidentally bought a hero instead of a dark hero. It is at the courier service that I use in Miami I don’t know what I should do. The dark hero is only like 20 bucks more expensive, which is not so steep for better performance for zen3 CPUs.

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 7:20 PM

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It doesn't really offer better performance TBH

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It's all about looks and the chipset fan vs none

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Unless you'll be Extreme overclocking, IE LN2, don't worry about it

warm path Dec 26, 2020, 7:28 PM

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gloomy spear Idk at all I think it's my motherboard since I have a 5000 series amd and I need...

Hm ok, buy a cheap cpu that is supported then flash latest bios. There it should work

gloomy spear Dec 26, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Ok

pearl zealot Dec 26, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Unless your mobo has qflash or flashback or whatever

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Some mobos can update using a usb without a cpu

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 8:27 PM

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i am angry now i bought a ducking core 2 quad in hopes of putting it in a XPS 400 to turn into a NAS
While yes the Q6600 is compatible with the chipset those dell duckers made the bios not ducking compatible im ticked off af now

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well since im restricted to a Pentium D now might as well overclock it or something by putting a piece of tape on it

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 8:37 PM

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keeeeek

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 8:37 PM

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~~ok you will a 2.8GHZ pentium D work for nas box~~

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Yeah

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 8:38 PM

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wont a slow cpu affect rebuild times

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or whatever

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?

long geyser Dec 26, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Depends what you use the NAS for. If it's purely storage I'd guess it'd be fine. If you start doing some server stuff then it might be an issue

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 8:47 PM

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i only need it to act like a additional storage device

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as long as it can force 100MB/s of data to the network im fine

burnt finch Dec 26, 2020, 8:56 PM

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whats a good matx mobo for a good price?

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 8:56 PM

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theres lots of micro atx boards out there

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 8:56 PM

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CPU?

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 8:56 PM

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we need to know what cpu you want

burnt finch Dec 26, 2020, 8:57 PM

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ryzen 5 3600

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Anything B550 TBH

burnt finch Dec 26, 2020, 8:57 PM

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okay thanks

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:03 PM

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long geyser Depends what you use the NAS for. If it's purely storage I'd guess it'd be fine....

Yeah for just serving files u can use whatever, i knew a guy who still used a pentium 3 for his nas

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For any kind of containers or vms or anything like that

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You just want cores

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The speed of those cores doesnt rly matter 90% of the time

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:04 PM

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is it wierd that when ever im working with LGA proccessors since i dont have socket covers laying around i will just use a random celeron or whatever i can find as a socket protector? just put a random cpu in it so the socket isnt exposed?

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:04 PM

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No i do that

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keeeeek

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Although i dont think those sockets deserve protection

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:08 PM

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shush

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:08 PM

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I literally snapped a 775 board in half a bit ago

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:09 PM

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wow

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:09 PM

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keeeeek

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Making my own mini itx

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:13 PM

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of course you did

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:14 PM

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The big brain technique

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:15 PM

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this dell is heavy af since its loaded with drives
i feel bad for the people who have to install servers loaded with drivess

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:15 PM

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We dont

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We install the chassis and then the drives

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My jbod is like 200lb lmao

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:17 PM

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~~now im just thinking about that one LTT episode where they carried a server with like 100 drives in it up a flight of stairs by hand~~

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Its cause the entire ltt staff are idiots

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:21 PM

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i just started this drive loaded xps 400 for the first tine

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time

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and like so many drive spinning up in it at once

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Nyoom

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:24 PM

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feels like a gyroscope since this thing feels like its fighting you if you try to lean it even a little

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Dont lean it

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:24 PM

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i know it just feels wierd

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im now using a broken monitor to install linux on this thing yes i will install the nas os later but this is just for testing the drives

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Ur so weird and do stuff so sub-optimally keeeeek

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:26 PM

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i know but i also dont have a deep knowledge base of these things

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Thats why u listen to ppl like me keeeeek

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:28 PM

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~~well these are sketchy drives so i do need to stress test them~~

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oop

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i just got a error

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SYSTEM HALTED

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:32 PM

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keeeeek

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:35 PM

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i really wanna get like a 128GB USB drive and just make one of those multi os install USBs

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so i dont constantly have to reimage a usb

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Thats what i did

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Now i just make my own usbs

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I have one with like

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Almosy every msdn windows image keeeeek

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:47 PM

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ok crazy enterprise person
which would be better
the dedicated nas os which i have never used before
or linux which i already know how to use

will one have better performance then the other? or somethin?

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:47 PM

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If only you knew that the dedicated nas os runs on linux keeeeek

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omegaLul

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:47 PM

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ok then linux it is

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Either option is linux but using the distro customized to serving up files is the less smooth brain approach

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But ive stopped caring keeeeek

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:49 PM

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wtf im trying to install linux

#

but it keeps saying

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SYSTEM HALTED INVALID ELF FILE

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whatever the duck that means

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Lmao

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Maybe use the correct os

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And ill help keeeeek

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What distro u even using

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:50 PM

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well i cant use the NAS os since my ram wont be here for another week

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~~Peppermint linux~~

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Ew

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Gui on server

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Disgusting

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:51 PM

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shush you im not a command line guru

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Become one

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:54 PM

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ill use the NAS os when the rest of the stuff gets here

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:54 PM

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https://github.com/AnalogJ/scrutiny

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:54 PM

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i just wanna make sure these drives that are here work

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Enjoy

rigid sluice Dec 26, 2020, 9:56 PM

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hey all the disks detect in os

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ooo its showing serial numbers

dusty cliff Dec 26, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Anyone know if using used ram from a prebuilt on a custom computer causes any issues?

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Someone locally is selling a 32gb kit pretty cheap, he just says it uses a dell xmp profile that doesn't work with other sticks

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Yeah best to stay away then

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 9:58 PM

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They're usually crappy kits

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in terms of freq/timings

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Because you ll be limited to thebslowest speeds and timing.

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Oem ram is good in some cases

dusty cliff Dec 26, 2020, 9:59 PM

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The freq is 3200MHz. I can't find anything about timings

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 9:59 PM

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If you have 3600 now, dont.

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Not for gaming tho

dusty cliff Dec 26, 2020, 9:59 PM

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This is for a new build

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so i have 0 now haha

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 9:59 PM

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check timings

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There are weird OEM kits with like 3200mhz cl22

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 9:59 PM

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For ryzen 5000 you want 3600 cl 16

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Yeah lol

dusty cliff Dec 26, 2020, 10:00 PM

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can't find it on dell's website

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 10:00 PM

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What's the model

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 10:00 PM

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$80

dusty cliff Dec 26, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Kingston XN205T-HYD2

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 10:00 PM

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hollow thorn There are weird OEM kits with like 3200mhz cl22

Cause they can use the worst bins and advertise as 3200mhz eam

dusty cliff Dec 26, 2020, 10:00 PM

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He's selling it for $120. It's 2x16

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Id bite for $100

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But thats me

dusty cliff Dec 26, 2020, 10:01 PM

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The postings been up for 3 months so I can probably haggle him haha

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 10:01 PM

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hm

dusty cliff Dec 26, 2020, 10:01 PM

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I just don't know about timings. And if they're boo boo i don't want it

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 10:02 PM

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You can get a normal 3200c16 kit for close to 100$ new

dusty cliff Dec 26, 2020, 10:02 PM

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3200 vs 3600 isn't that big of a dif based on some benchmark videos I watched. I need the extra memory though

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 10:02 PM

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1585685-REG/pny_technologies_md32gk2d4320016xr_pny_32gb_2x16gb_xlr8.html

PNY Technologies 32GB XLR8 Gaming 3200 MHz Desktop Memory Kit (2 x ...

Buy PNY Technologies 32GB XLR8 Gaming 3200 MHz Desktop Memory Kit (2 x 16GB) featuring 32GB (2 x 16GB) Capacity, 3200 MHz Clock Speed, PC4-25600, 288-Pin DIMM, 1.35V, CL16 CAS Latency, XMP 2.0 Support, Dual-Channel Design, Integrated Heat Spreaders. Review PNY Technologies XLR8

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back-ordered but you see the price

dusty cliff Dec 26, 2020, 10:02 PM

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wtf. I thought 32gb kits were usually closer to $200. Why's that one so cheap

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 10:03 PM

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The Aegis kit was 100$ on sale a bit ago
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232885

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used to be ~115$ not on sale

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@dusty cliff 4x8gb kits tend to be more expensive than 2x16gb kits

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like 4x8gb 3600c16 kits are more like 200$

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2x16gb 3600c16 kits are like 150$

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and 2x16gb 3200c16 kits are more like 100$

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 10:04 PM

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true

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whew im gonna have to get used to browns again

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 10:04 PM

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switches?

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 10:05 PM

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yeah

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just put my blue keyboard away

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for a bit

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using my cute one now

dusty cliff Dec 26, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Aren't browns pretty similar to blues without the sound

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 10:06 PM

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nha

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nah

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they feel softer

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more squishie

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 10:06 PM

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bruh

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@ruby laurel blues bad

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Browns feel nice

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 10:07 PM

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blues nice

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and i like squishier keys

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blues more crispy

upper aspen Dec 26, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Is 32 gb still overkill these days?

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Mostly

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 10:52 PM

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hey guys, I need some help with my cpu performance

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so I have an intel i7 tenth gen CPU and I play team fortress 2 pretty much daily, and typically I fluctuate from around 4.2GHz-4.7GHz and I never have framerate issues. But just today and yesterday I started noticing that whenever the game is open my clock speed drops significantly to around 3GHz and I notice a lot of dropped frames. Is there any cause for this and can I do anything about it?

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elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Which CPU?

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Intel is famous for Single Core high clocks but all core loads drop frequency

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 10:55 PM

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10510U

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4 cores

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so would that mean I disable multicore rendering here?

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elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Yeah, all core Turbo speed is less than Single Core turbo

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That's why

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no, don't do that!

eager patio Dec 26, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Hi I'm trying to upgrade my old computer to be able to play WoW Classic. I'm trying to find a cheap CPU that will do a decent job of it. Blizzard recommends for Intel i7 7600K/6700K/ 4790K. All of the ones I find have the Video on the chip and I'm planning on buying a Video card so I don't need the video on the chip. Is there a big price difference if i can find one with out the video on the CPU?

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 10:56 PM

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It's just the way the processor works. It's fine. It's also a mobile processor

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 10:56 PM

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so what would I do to fix this? It's only the past few days where i've had this

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 10:56 PM

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@eager patio The chip having an iGPU doesn't affect performance

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All Intel chips with the F ending (9900kf, 10900kf, etc) don't have an iGPU, if you really need it.

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 10:57 PM

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I mean, you can disable the Multicore rendering but it will probably be a performance hit. Multicore > single core

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 10:57 PM

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yeah

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but what do I do about the clock speed

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 10:57 PM

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"Stepping down to the next model, the i7-10510U, you'll get higher speeds (1.1GHz base; 4.9GHz single-core Turbo; 4.3GHz all-core Turbo) but only four cores and eight threads."

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 10:57 PM

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the drop normally would never happen when I open the game

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 10:57 PM

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@naive pendant Track temps

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 10:57 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500101047612604427/792525752565760071/unknown.png

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 10:57 PM

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I have a feeling it's throttling

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Nope

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"Stepping down to the next model, the i7-10510U, you'll get higher speeds (1.1GHz base; 4.9GHz single-core Turbo; 4.3GHz all-core Turbo) but only four cores and eight threads."

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 10:57 PM

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I think my temps are fine

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elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 10:58 PM

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It's working the way it's supposed to

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 10:58 PM

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hm?

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 10:58 PM

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That processor

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"Stepping down to the next model, the i7-10510U, you'll get higher speeds (1.1GHz base; 4.9GHz single-core Turbo; 4.3GHz all-core Turbo) but only four cores and eight threads."

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 10:58 PM

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but why did it never do that before

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all core turbo being 4.3GHz is more than what i'm seeing with tf2

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it's dropping down as low as 2.5GHz occasionally

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 10:59 PM

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@elfin warren I forgot, do they do the TVB thing on their 10th gen mobile chips?

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Ye. Single core clock higher than Multi core clock

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BUt if it's 2.5 ghz, that's not great either.

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I mean, that graph doesn't have a number

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But looks like around 3.75-4.0 ghz

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Where it dops

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:01 PM

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yeah

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but I know for certain it doesn't normally drop anywhere below 4GHz

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Could be a lot of things but maybe heat

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Playing in a new location maybe? On your lap instead of a desk?

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:03 PM

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nope I usually run below 80 degrees

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or just reaching it

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and I use a desk with an elevated cooling pad

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Well

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the throttle temperature is 72 C

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So I'd imagine that's why

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 11:04 PM

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I kind of want to suggest slapping it with p95 smallfft

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:05 PM

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whats smallfft

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Stress test

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:06 PM

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heat maker

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 11:06 PM

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no that's called furmark @elfin warren

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:06 PM

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My 3700x disagrees with you

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:06 PM

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ok how do I stress test

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Need to see what your temps are under load

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I think that 55c is just with a couple things open

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 11:07 PM

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@elfin warren even with my 180w spikes on my CPU from p95, furmark draws more power >:P

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:07 PM

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And if that's idle temp, 55C is a touch warm

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My 3700x gets really angry with smallfft

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:08 PM

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it's a laptop lol can't expect low temps

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:08 PM

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We don't. But even a laptop at 55c idle is a bit warm

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how old is it?

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 11:08 PM

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prolly not too old

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10th gen still recent

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Ye, I'd guess a year or less

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:09 PM

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the laptop itself is about 2 months old

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in terms of when I bought it

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:10 PM

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That 55C, is that with nothing but Discord open?

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:10 PM

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no

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:10 PM

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maybe a browser?

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:10 PM

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that was with tf2 on the main menu, discord, and 2 chrome tabs

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and NZXT cam

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 11:11 PM

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and that's basically idle

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:11 PM

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if it's useful I can give you my laptop model

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 11:11 PM

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why do u have cam on your laptop keeeek

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:12 PM

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wdym

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:12 PM

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NXZT cam

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What for?

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:12 PM

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temperature and clock speed readings

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Gross

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 11:12 PM

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literally just task manager reskin

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:12 PM

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HWINFO

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 11:12 PM

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hwinfo

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Get rid of CAM

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 11:12 PM

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omegalul

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cam sux

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:12 PM

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what is hwinfo

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Temp readins

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Better than NZXT cam

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NZXT cam is not very accurate

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Willing to bet you'll get different readings with proper software. Mebbe not though but worth a check

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:13 PM

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fosshub download?

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:13 PM

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https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

HWiNFO

hwinfo

Free Download HWiNFO Sofware | Installer & Portable for Windows, DOS

Start to analyze your hardware right now! HWiNFO has available as an Installer and Portable version for Windows (32/64-bit) and Portable version for DOS.

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:14 PM

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yeah im on there

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do I do the fosshub option

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 11:14 PM

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elfin warren NZXT cam is not very accurate

plus cam is also heavy as hell

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fosshub cute

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do that

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:14 PM

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second option?

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ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 11:14 PM

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yep

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the installer

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:15 PM

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WOW OKAY

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elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Check the bottom box

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 11:16 PM

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naive pendant WOW OKAY

update ur windows hoe

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:17 PM

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wdym

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 11:17 PM

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you could just run sensors only yaknow xD

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:17 PM

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i'm on windows 10

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Build 1909 O.o

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Windows SO FAR out of date

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 11:17 PM

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ikr

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omegalul

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:17 PM

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wha

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 11:17 PM

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1909 is prob a year ago..?

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Probs drivers need updating too

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 11:17 PM

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september 2019

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:17 PM

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TE_NotLikeThis fix my computer

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Just go to settings

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UPDATE WINDOWS

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 11:18 PM

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hollow thorn 1909 is prob a year ago..?

it goes year month

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:18 PM

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ez pz

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 11:18 PM

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for builds

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 11:18 PM

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gotcha

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I have 2004

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:18 PM

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wha

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hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 11:18 PM

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lol

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:18 PM

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Check for updates manually

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:18 PM

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this?

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ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 11:18 PM

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yes

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:18 PM

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20H2

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:18 PM

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YES

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Download and install

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:18 PM

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okay i'll open discord on my phone now see you in a few minutes

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Oh yea I was hearing about some weird chkdsk issues with I think 20h2 tho

ruby laurel Dec 26, 2020, 11:19 PM

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fixed iirc

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Mmm, I haven't had any issues

hollow thorn Dec 26, 2020, 11:19 PM

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I'm gonna stay on 2004 for now

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:20 PM

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what difference will updating make

elfin warren Dec 26, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Drivers, temps, maybe speeds

naive pendant Dec 26, 2020, 11:22 PM

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wee

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I'll be back when the update is done

trim harbor Dec 27, 2020, 12:05 AM

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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

naive pendant Dec 27, 2020, 12:53 AM

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hey guys my update finished now

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this is hard to read

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naive pendant Dec 27, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Are there any matx boards for the 1151 socket that are ~150 usd

deft inlet Dec 27, 2020, 1:24 AM

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i am trying to find a motherboards for a ryzen 5800 or a 5600 which motherboard do you think would be the best all around 100-170

severe walrus Dec 27, 2020, 1:41 AM

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Is this motherboard overkill for my internet speed?

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https://www.newegg.ca/asus-rog-strix-b550-a-gaming/p/N82E16813119349?Item=N82E16813119349&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-CAN&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-CAN&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fca.pcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44589&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-Q29gxg1wsQq0Xr_gemFCpw

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17 ping 50 Mbps download spd and 8 mbs upload speed

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 1:53 AM

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uh

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@severe walrus You planning to use ethernet or wifi?

mental bronze Dec 27, 2020, 2:13 AM

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9600K, 10400F, or 2600X?

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1K CAD budget and will be used for gaming and streaming

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 2:20 AM

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10400f imo

pale mist Dec 27, 2020, 2:25 AM

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I would go for 9600k personally

severe walrus Dec 27, 2020, 2:26 AM

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@hollow thorn I'm planning on using Ethernet

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 2:26 AM

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@severe walrus Well the motherboard wouldn't really matter for you internet speed, but I'd prob get a cheaper motherboard anyways because that just seems overpriced lel

severe walrus Dec 27, 2020, 2:28 AM

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It was on sale for 210$ recently and I'm trying to see if it might be 180$ on amazon but i'm also looking at this mobo

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https://www.newegg.ca/asus-rog-strix-b550-f-gaming/p/N82E16813119312

pale mist Dec 27, 2020, 2:29 AM

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@mental bronze the 9600k is better performance sheer number wise and used boards are cheaper

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and there is OC

severe walrus Dec 27, 2020, 2:30 AM

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are they both the same thing since once is B550-A and the other is B550-F @hollow thorn

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Pure numbers wise, @pale mist 10400f is better performance multithreaded

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mostly from the SMT

pale mist Dec 27, 2020, 2:31 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JCUfzEvv8Y

YouTube

UserBenchmark

9600K vs 10400F - 2060S 💥 CSGO 💥 Fortnite 💥 PUBG 💥 GTAV 💥 Overwatch...

00:10 CSGO 01:30 Fortnite 02:50 PUBG 04:10 GTAV 05:30 Overwatch

Compare EFps: https://www.userbenchmark.com/EFps/,,10400F,_,,9600K,_CSGO,2060S,,#

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/20013701
CPU: Intel Core i5-9600K - 107.1%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 2060S (Super) - 106.3%
SSD: Adata XPG SX8200 Pro NVMe PCIe M.2 256GB - 266.4%
RAM: Corsair...

▶ Play video

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I found this

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 2:31 AM

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@severe walrus it's weird, Asus has weird naming, I'll check it

pale mist Dec 27, 2020, 2:32 AM

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he is only doing gameing/streaming

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 2:32 AM

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@pale mist When I say pure numbers I mean pure numbers >:D

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multithread nice to have as time moves on

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as Naed had said before, you don't want to be far behind Console hardware, and console is now on 8c16t chips

pale mist Dec 27, 2020, 2:32 AM

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well yes, but that isnt a real-world indication for gaming performance

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 2:33 AM

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hm?

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I said pure numbers didn't I

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never said gaming performance >:D

pale mist Dec 27, 2020, 2:33 AM

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well I like how you think

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but he DID say he is only using it for gameing/streaming

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 2:33 AM

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But yes, 9600k better for gaming atm

deft inlet Dec 27, 2020, 2:33 AM

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GIGABYTE B550 AORUS PRO or ASRock B550 EXTREME4 or MSI MAG B550M

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 2:33 AM

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but I prefer 10400f

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better upgradability on lga1200

pale mist Dec 27, 2020, 2:34 AM

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true

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@deft inlet I am a aorus fan

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 2:34 AM

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@deft inlet you should meet @woven fable

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anyways what's the budget?

pale mist Dec 27, 2020, 2:35 AM

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you should maybe consider an x570 board over a high end b550 also

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 2:39 AM

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@severe walrus alright looks like the exact same board except for looks

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b550-f and b550-a

severe walrus Dec 27, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Okay thanks man!

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I'm going for a white build but both boards look awesome and thats why I was thinking bout getting one of them but was wondering if the ethernet speed even mattered to me since it looks like the board has issues with the 2.5gb lan

mental bronze Dec 27, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Wait so if I wanted to use a capture card in my computer (say, an Elgato HD60 S) then I wouldn’t be able to use it because the 10400F has no IGPU?

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I read a review on PCPP that says “I hadn’t realized the F meant the HDMI ports in the motherboard would be useless even when the GPU was plugged in. I half knew, but I wouldn’t mind paying an extra 20£ for the non-F version.” Does this mean that if I plug an external capture card into my mobo, it won’t work?

fallen lynx Dec 27, 2020, 2:46 AM

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the capture card should have its own inputs

deft inlet Dec 27, 2020, 2:47 AM

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@hollow thorn my budget is 100-180

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 2:48 AM

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usd?

deft inlet Dec 27, 2020, 2:48 AM

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yea

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 2:48 AM

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B550 aorus elite ax

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dunno if you need wifi or not

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it has it

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Got bios flashback, good vrms, good io, good sound chip, usb 3.1 front io

deft inlet Dec 27, 2020, 2:48 AM

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i don't need WiFi

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B550 aorus elite ax
looks good
l

deft inlet Dec 27, 2020, 2:58 AM

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deft inlet i don't need WiFi

@hollow thorn

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 2:59 AM

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the Aorus Elite non-wifi then

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should be 160$

timid stratus Dec 27, 2020, 2:59 AM

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@hollow thorn i have a 5600x and a 3080 build but idk what ram to get its either garbage or like 400 bucks

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do u have any ideas?

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 3:01 AM

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basically back ordered:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1548834-REG/crucial_bl2k8g36c16u4b_ballistix_16gb_8x2_3600_mhz.html

Crucial 16GB Ballistix DDR4 3600 MHz UDIMM Gaming Desktop Memory Ki...

Buy Crucial 16GB Ballistix DDR4 3600 MHz UDIMM Gaming Desktop Memory Kit (2 x 8GB, Black) featuring 16GB (2 x 8GB) Capacity, 3600 MHz Clock Speed, PC4-28800, 288-Pin UDIMM, 1.35V, 16-18-18-38 Timings, Unbuffered, Non-ECC, Low Profile, XMP 2.0 Support. Review Crucial Ballistix

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or a bit overpriced:
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880

azure pulsar Dec 27, 2020, 3:04 AM

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a first word latency of 10 is decent right

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i was going to go with 8.89 but prices went up so i had to settle for 10

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 3:04 AM

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what

timid stratus Dec 27, 2020, 3:04 AM

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@hollow thorn r the timing good enough of the newegg one

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 3:04 AM

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It's 3600mhz cl16

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16-19-19-39 means prob djr

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which is decent

timid stratus Dec 27, 2020, 3:05 AM

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it doesnt even manner ram difference is just like 5-10 fps

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for hundreds of bucks in price

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so like whatevs at this point

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 3:06 AM

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wdym

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3200c16 to 3600c16 is like a 20$ difference

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for 5-10 fps

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not bad

vivid pewter Dec 27, 2020, 3:08 AM

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is there a difference between the ballistix and ripjaws above other than price?

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Ballistix has better dies

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likely rev e

vivid pewter Dec 27, 2020, 3:10 AM

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what does a better die do? Is it for overclocking or stability?

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Better overclocking headroom

somber badger Dec 27, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Curious why this is, my PC when starting after it is shut down will have a white light on the VRAM light, if i restart it goes off. The computer is working just fine though. Why does this happen??

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Motherboard is Asus b550 plus

sour musk Dec 27, 2020, 3:46 AM

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can you oc on a ASRock B365M Phantom Gaming 4

woven fable Dec 27, 2020, 3:55 AM

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deft inlet <@!278694081440251905>

buenos dias

deft inlet Dec 27, 2020, 3:59 AM

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?

ornate drum Dec 27, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Hey folks, I got a new set of Corsair Vengeance RAM Model number CMK32GX4M4C3000C15 ver. 5.32. I removed all of my exiting RAM and tried many variations of placements of the new RAM to verify if I had a motherboard issue or an issue with the RAM. Variations were as follows Slots: A1,B1,C1,D1 then A1,B1 then just slot A1 with all four sticks one at a time. All attempts to boot failed to post. Is there a compatibility issue with this model of RAM? To verify it isn't my motherboard I put back my existing RAM and the computer has no issues. The QVL list specifies Model CMK32GX4M4C3000C15 Ver. 5.30. So my only guess is that Ver. 5.32 is incompatible. Any Suggestions?

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https://www.newegg.ca/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236027

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 4:24 AM

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What motherboard

ornate drum Dec 27, 2020, 4:24 AM

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ASrock X99 Extreme4

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 4:31 AM

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My only thought is do you have any way of testing the Corsair kit to see if it works? I would assume it'd at least boot with 1 stick...

ornate drum Dec 27, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Tested them all one by one and none of them will post its either their all dead or their incompatible in some way

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 4:33 AM

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It would be very weird that a different version of the same model of ram sticks is just completely incompatible

ornate drum Dec 27, 2020, 4:33 AM

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i would bring them to my buddys to test on his rig but its COVID

hollow thorn Dec 27, 2020, 4:34 AM

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fair

ornate drum Dec 27, 2020, 5:00 AM

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So i checked my cpu "Intel I7 5820k" and apparently its only compatible with 2133Mhs. Both my old and new ram are base 3000Mhs but i checked my Bios and my old RAM has been Underclocked at 2133 the whole time. Is it possible that the new ram just cannot be underclocked at that speed?

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Bro my motherboard won't post and it's just giving the dram debug error

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What the balls

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Asus tuff gaming x570 plus

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:37 AM

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What ram is it?

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:39 AM

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📎 20201227_003857.jpg

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Pc part picker showed no problems

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Also people on here have seen my part list and there was nothing wrong

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:39 AM

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4400 MHZ?

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Yes

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:39 AM

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O.o that's overkill

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BUt

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Yes

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:40 AM

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have you tried a clear CMOS

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?

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Yes

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:40 AM

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One stick?

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Yes

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Any other RAM to test?

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:40 AM

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No

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Might be a bad CPU or motherboard

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one stick in all the slots?

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Just one stick in a2

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Try other slots. Try a B slot

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If it works, good chance the A channel is dead

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Either CPU or motherboard

wispy berry Dec 27, 2020, 5:42 AM

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anyone here own a b550 strix

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Specifically, try B1

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And B2

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but b1 first

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Dram immediately came on

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The light

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It has for b2, a1 and a2

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:43 AM

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B1?

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:45 AM

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No work

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:46 AM

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Hmmm

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At this point, it's either CPU or RAM

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I'd suggest removing the CPU and checking for bent pins

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If no bent pins, might be the ram

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Borrow some from a friend to test if possible?

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:49 AM

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I'm the unluckiest man alive

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Well, DDR4 4400 ram is relatively new

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I'm honestly surprised people told you to buy it

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If you can get a slower speed stick to work, highly recommend updating the BIOS since the newest one contains RAM compatibility improvements

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wait

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Is this a 5800X you're trying to use in the motherboard??

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Yes

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Man

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Man o man

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Don't say it

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:51 AM

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That board needs a BIOS update before you can do that -_-

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Hence the DRAM light

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:51 AM

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I was told it might have came updated

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:51 AM

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No

stable wedge Dec 27, 2020, 5:51 AM

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probably not

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:51 AM

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5800x way too new for that

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mobos BIOS is at least a couple months old due to the supply chain

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Figure 3-6 months behind

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to be safe

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:52 AM

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This is straight doo doo balls

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:52 AM

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I'm sorry I wasn't around when all this went down 😦

stable wedge Dec 27, 2020, 5:52 AM

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shouldn't be hard to update

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Board has no BIOS flashback

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So he's gonna need a 3rd gen processor

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:53 AM

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I don't have another cpu to update it

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This is ass

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:53 AM

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It is ass. I'm sorry.

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:53 AM

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What's the cheapest one that will work

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Borrow one from a friend?

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:53 AM

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My friends are all asses

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:53 AM

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That sucks

stable wedge Dec 27, 2020, 5:53 AM

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lol well make new ones

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:53 AM

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They aren't taking apart their computers for me

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:54 AM

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I mean, if you message AMD they'll send you a kit but IDK how long it will take to get

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They basically send you a processor to use and you send it back

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https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100

Unable to Boot New Desktop System Configured with AMD 3rd Generatio...

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At the very bottom of the page

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:55 AM

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I've looked into that

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:55 AM

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I wish people wouldn't assume and would give better advice 😦

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If it were me, I'd try and find a cheap 1st gen ryzen second hand to use for this

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OfferUp, FB Marketplace, Craigslist or something

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Wait so what cpu should I try to get

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Like a 1600 or 1700 Ryzen

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SOmething super cheap

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The cheapest ERyzen you can find lol

stable wedge Dec 27, 2020, 5:57 AM

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i'm not sure 1st gen will work in the x570 chipset?

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Doesn't it need to be a 3000 series

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 5:57 AM

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NO

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Sorry, no

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Everything out of stock too on Newegg

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Hence I'd try the second hand market or maybe even Ebay

stable wedge Dec 27, 2020, 5:59 AM

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It would need to be a 2nd gen or 3rd gen AMD

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Yeah

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Nope, 1st gen works

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Anything with AGESA 1.0.04

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 6:00 AM

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I looked at compatibility and the earliest ones were 2000 series

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 6:00 AM

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I know. I'm telling you it will work despite not being listed

stable wedge Dec 27, 2020, 6:01 AM

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https://www.amd.com/en/chipsets/x570-0

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Sigh

stable wedge Dec 27, 2020, 6:01 AM

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lol it may work... but he's saying its unsupported 😉

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 6:01 AM

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I'm saying, it'll work. So if you find a cheap one, snag it lol

stable wedge Dec 27, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Take his word for it. I can't say I've done it. I've got a 3rd gen in mine right now. Waiting to bump up on the 5800x

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Ye, I have a 3700x

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Not going for a new proc though, waiting on my turn for a 3070

stable wedge Dec 27, 2020, 6:04 AM

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I went with the 3800xt right now

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Good unit

stable wedge Dec 27, 2020, 6:04 AM

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yeah just got a 3080 last week

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Ah, nice!

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Honestly, probably Ok with the 3800 but the 5800 sure won't hurt!

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I'll probably snag a 5900 when things calm down

stable wedge Dec 27, 2020, 6:05 AM

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yeah I agree with that. I've heard that anything above 5800x is more for video rendering and such. Kind of overkill for the gaming

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Gaming and streaming, mebbe not

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Photo and video editing, definitely not lol

stable wedge Dec 27, 2020, 6:06 AM

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yeah cause I was debating on the samehting

graceful elm Dec 27, 2020, 6:34 AM

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@elfin warren I just drove to my coding teachers house and picked up his 2600

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Lmao

naive pendant Dec 27, 2020, 7:37 AM

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Thoughts on MSI B450M Bazooka Max WiFi ?

naive pendant Dec 27, 2020, 3:05 PM

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@elfin warren

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 3:06 PM

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What processor?

naive pendant Dec 27, 2020, 3:39 PM

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elfin warren What processor?

3100

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 3:51 PM

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Ye, that'll be fine

ruby laurel Dec 27, 2020, 3:59 PM

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elfin warren Not going for a new proc though, waiting on my turn for a 3070

did u do the evga thing

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Well, funny story

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I realized the email I signed up with wasn't the one on my account -_-

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Just a week ago

ruby laurel Dec 27, 2020, 4:10 PM

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keeeek

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Ye

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So, I'm watching stores online lol

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I'm sitting on $150 worth of gift cards to throw at one I've been hanging on to lol

naive pendant Dec 27, 2020, 4:12 PM

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elfin warren Ye, that'll be fine

How good is the board itself though

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 4:12 PM

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I mean, as long as it has the ports and accessories you need, a motherboard doesn't really do much else

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If you were putting in a high end AMD CPU, I'd be a bit concerned with the VRM but don't get too hung up on motherboards

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Ram speeds are good

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2 PCI-E reinforced slots

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1 M.2 slot

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Should be enough for everyone TBH

naive pendant Dec 27, 2020, 4:18 PM

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👍🏻

elfin warren Dec 27, 2020, 4:18 PM

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And honestly the onboard wifi nowadays is pretty decent

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My AC1600 router, I'm getting 780 mbps over WiFi XD