yo so i just installed my ram, crucial ballistics 3600mhz cl16
#cpus-mobo-and-memory
marble hare
languid pine
he put it in every chat
marble hare
but when i went on my bios for the first time
languid pine
whats you mobo/cpu
languid pine
some ram should be compatable but isnt like the ram
marble hare
nah there’s a way to have it run at it’s rated 3600mhz but i don’t know how
languid pine
send me the ram link
it matters more than you think
plus depending theirs different ways to fix it
marble hare
i’ll dm cos you can’t put non newegg link
languid pine
ok
contact crucial thats not comon unlike other sticks
some times it common but i cant see why here
if you call support they will help
sorry i couldnt help
marble hare
no worries man thank you
languid pine
yep
marble hare
i remember seeing a video on how to do it
or maybe someone in this chat said it
but i just can’t remember
languid pine
let me know if it works
regal bobcat
im on PC part picker i was getting a new case but it says this "Note:Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case has a front panel USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type C port, but the Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard does not have sufficient USB 3.2 Gen 2 or Gen 1 headers. The case USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type C port will not be usabl"
should i be concerned o.o
slim nymph
only if you want type c
marble hare
oh wow i done it @languid pine
it’s so easy on msi bios
never going back to an asus mobo this was so easy
clear sequoia
which is better for editing Intel or AMD?
marble hare
it depends but amd generally
the new 5000 series has amazing single core and multi core performance
naive pendant
but comes at hefty price aswell.
clear sequoia
hm
well its good I'm getting the Ryzen 5 5600x
I thought intel was better for a second
clear sequoia
whats msrp?
marble hare
i hadnt opened anything yet
marble hare
wait wtf it says 2 cores 4 logical processors
elfin warren
Check the Processes tab, sort by useage
clear sequoia
when it goes on stock again
naive pendant
nice
marble hare
naive pendant
though i would wait for it to be at like
The MSRP price
marble hare
but still did I do something wrong? it says 2 cores 4 logical processors
naive pendant
restart your pc and enter on the mobo bios.
elfin warren
Is this a new build?
clear sequoia
@naive pendant what would be the msrp price tho?
naive pendant
<@456226577798135808> what would be the msrp price tho?
300$
marble hare
how do i do that
clear sequoia
but it is a combo with 2 rlly good sticks of ram so idk if its gonna go down to 300 bucks
elfin warren
It's going to clear your ram DOCP settings when you do though
THe other thing is, try downloading the AMD Processor driver, AKA Ryzen Master
Then reboot
if that doesn't work, Clear CMOS by unplugging power supply and removing button cell battery for a few minutes, then reinstall, boot BIOS, set RAM speeds etc, then back to Windows
naive pendant
but it is a combo with 2 rlly good sticks of ram so idk if its gonna go down to ...
gonna take a while for it to be at msrp price tho
clear sequoia
nah I'd rather just buy it up front tbh
since I dont want it to be sold out for another couple weeks
elfin warren
Ryzewn Master?
marble hare
showing 12 24 now and the usage has gone down all the way to 13%
elfin warren
👍
marble hare
5% even
elfin warren
I mean, with a fresh install it's gonna be used for a bit
Updates, driver installs, all that fun stuff
marble hare
yeah i literally had a heart attack when i saw that
i was thinking of all the worst case scenarios
elfin warren
You also didn't need CPU drivers before
For the most part
Ryzen is a bit different
marble hare
i dont really know what that means
marble hare
4X8
elfin warren
Motherboard?
marble hare
MSI X570 Unify
elfin warren
NOt familiar with MSI BIOS but did you use the DOCP configuration for your RAM?
marble hare
i dont think so, the only thing i changed from default was putting the cas latency to 16 and speed to 3600mhz
elfin warren
Ah
need to use DOCP
revert those settings
Find DOCP, turn it on, select your RAM speed and profile
marble hare
oh i had enabled it already
elfin warren
Winkey + S
MSCONFIG
Boot tab
Advanced Options
is there anything in the Maximum Memory box?
If so, uncheck it
elfin warren
sweet
marble hare
mem usage is very high for just chrome and discord
marble hare
chrome drinks ram
elfin warren
You have RAM, it's supposed to be used
Let it be used, makes things fast. memory leaks are bad, RAM useage is good
And yeah, Chrome eats ram.
But you have 32 GB so let it eat
elfin warren
👍
sacred raven
hey, does anyone know how newegg replacements work
i got a motherboard it was dead so i sent it back for replacement
and it arrived at the destination
elfin warren
I don't know, that's a question for NeweggService or customer service email
sacred raven
ok
elfin warren
This is a place for helping choose or troubleshoot motherboards
For Customer Service issues, contact Newegg directly
elfin warren
Ye
sacred raven
thx
elfin warren
YW
dapper plover
mb suggestions for 5 5600x? ~$150-$200
fallen lynx
mb suggestions for 5 5600x? ~$150-$200
gigabyte b550 aorus elite, asrock b550 steel legend
deft inlet
How will a PCIe Gen 3.0 x 4 M.2 SSD perform in a PCIe 4.0 M.2 slot?
ruby laurel
the same as if it was in a 3.0 slot
deft inlet
so its widespread ok
marble hare
everytime i boot up i get press any key to stop disk checking
or something like that i cant remember the message
why is it scanning and repairing my c drive every time i boot up?
ruby laurel
c drive might be failing
ruby laurel
so its widespread ok
im saying to think of it like its a usb drive. You're putting a slower drive into the faster port, so itll perform exactly like it should. It's a standard.
youll be fine running pcie3 in any pcie4 slot
just like how u can put pciex1 into pciex16 on your motherboard
lofty siren
best priced x570 board anyone?
in term of price and feature and cooling and maybe look
elfin warren
Asus TUF X570 WiFi. Bang for the buck features
lofty siren
thx dude u clutch
imma build my first pc with the r5 5600x and that board with 3060ti or 3070
lofty siren
cl16 kinda expensive ngl
lofty siren
ugh no esthetic whatsoever :/
eager shore
there's crucial's kit, it looks better imo
lofty siren
i kinda want my build to look cool kinda
eager shore
lofty siren
bruh thats practically the same aethetic xD
elfin warren
👍
hallow juniper
I have the cool master Hyper 212 EVO and the Itel I5 10600K LGA 1200. On the Newegg site it says it fits the LGA 1200 but it does not list this CPU in the cool master instructions. Am I missing something here
violet zealot
It doesn't list the socket you mean?
I don't think they've changed the socket mounting very much, so it being in the instructions is irrelevant as long as the mounting hardware works
hallow juniper
Ok I will give is a go and see how it turns out thanks El
spiral kindle
Mind if I ask for help troubleshooting my DRAM and CPU as their red LEDs keep lighting up on the motherboard whenever I turn on my new computer?
oblique jasper
should light up unless they are disabled
it does that on a regular memtest for most mobos
spiral kindle
Oh, then the red LEDs for the GPU and boot aren't lit so are they the actual problem?
pearl zealot
What does you mobo manual say in reference to when they should be on
lone ridge
I was planning to get the ryzen 5 5600x and one of the new gpu's but since neither of those are available are there any alternatives that you guys would recommend?
pearl zealot
If you can wait till stuff comes back in stock in 2-3 months or so
violet zealot
Do you have no computer currently?
lone ridge
I have a laptop that can't run much
lone ridge
If you can wait till stuff comes back in stock in 2-3 months or so
yeah I figured I would wait longer but I was hoping I could have something for the holidays because I've been waiting for a long time already
pearl zealot
Tbh with shipping near the holidays i wonder if even in stock stuff would all make it in time
But yeah I get you. I personally am not up on the good alternative though
lone ridge
alright
violet zealot
Um if you were to get anything though, the Intel stuff is kinda cheap. It's not as popular as Ryzen right now, so you could probably get a good deal on a cpu and motherboard combo
pearl zealot
Ddr5 whenever that starts making waves
hollow thorn
Depends on budget, and if you need wifi
B550 aorus elite ax solid choice if you need wifi
pearl zealot
Seconded
lone ridge
okay I'll check it out
agile pagoda
(first time building pc) For the mobo drivers do i just install and extract all the stuff that is there?https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450M Pro4/#Download
hollow thorn
going around filter is bad
agile pagoda
o
hollow thorn
but just get the essentials, gimme a sec
hollow thorn
hm?
oh like if you use raid
and I think the second one is if you want to use flobby disks..?
not too sure what the second "need" one is
gritty meadow
not too sure what the second "need" one is
early on in the lifetime of that sata controller, win10 didnt have native support. and i imagine that the "base" version of windows 10 will pitch a fit if you try and use it on that
(does that make sense?)
icy wave
I've got a question. i have a broken arous b450 pro wifi and i can either return the mobo for money "seller is nolonger on amazon so i cant get a new one" or i use my warranty on it and wait however long it takes to get a new one. which would be better
cedar leaf
That depends
If you want to get a new motherboard this is a good excuse lol
Especially if you have Ryzen 3000
Or plan on upgrading in the future
But if it were me I would use my warranty because that way I know I'm going to get a motherboard back
icy wave
im currently using a ryzen 5 3600xt. and i had to update bios last time i got the mobo
so i may return to amazon get my money bnack and buy a newer mobo
gritty meadow
get the money, grab a b550 instead imo
prisma nymph
^
icy wave
thats what i was thinking lol
are x570s compatible with the newest ryzen 5000 series cpus?
prisma nymph
the only one i know that compatible out of the box is the dark hero
icy wave
msi mpg x570s is what i have
cedar leaf
Not all x570 boards are ready I think
icy wave
i got it form a friend
from*
but he was having trouble with the cpu not working so it may be DOA
prisma nymph
looks like thats one of the cheapo x570's
gritty meadow
all b550 and x570 that have left the production lines since, about 1-1½month before the launch of the 5000 series, have built in support for it (as in, the bios works well enough to boot with the 5000 series cpu's)
icy wave
okay
gritty meadow
that does NOT mean that all boards on storage shelves will work
icy wave
and if i get a new mobo which should i get thats around $150 after tax
prisma nymph
for a 5000 series?
icy wave
i was thinking for the future if i do upgrade. but right now im sticking with my 3600xt
prisma nymph
damn, ya'll us people area lucky with tax
13% in ontario
wait what
i thought it was 6.25
icy wave
wait thats something else mb
prisma nymph
icy wave
i was about to say 1.75 is cheap
cedar leaf
13% in ontario
Well at least we get free healthcare LOL
prisma nymph
tru
cedar leaf
That's what we pay for
icy wave
hey i have private insurance lmao
prisma nymph
i think its like, 15% in new brunswick or smth crazy
icy wave
wow
prisma nymph
then 8 in manitoba
cedar leaf
hey i have private insurance lmao
BiG bRaiN pLaYs
cedar leaf
i think its like, 15% in new brunswick or smth crazy
dam
prisma nymph
wow, its actually 7 in manitoba
icy wave
anyways anyone got a mobo suggestion? lol
icy wave
yes full size atx
prisma nymph
wifi?
icy wave
perferably with wifi
icy wave
https://www.amazon.ca/GIGABYTE-B550-AORUS-PRO-Motherboard/dp/B089FTMG2B
out of stock on amazon US
icy wave
lol
cedar leaf
oh wait it does
cedar leaf
It's got Realtek wifi ewwwww
icy wave
i have a sound card
hollow thorn
@gritty meadow ah, so it's drivers for the SATA controller in case the OS did not support it, and only supported floppy disk?
icy wave
i can always get a wifi card. as wifi isnt needed currently just for the future when i wont have a ethernet cable
gritty meadow
<@!131369265608654848> ah, so it's drivers for the SATA controller in case the O...
basically yes
prisma nymph
because theyre the same price rn
is the ax actually better?
doesnt seem like it is
cedar leaf
why go pro ac when you can have ax
Only useful if you have an AX router
cedar leaf
it's the same price
oh ok then ax all the way lmao
hollow thorn
I'll check specs on the boards tho
I like elite ax because it has everything I look for in a motherboard for a good nuff price
prisma nymph
ac gang
cedar leaf
If they are the same price the AX is better but chances are you won't be able to fully utilize it lol
prisma nymph
better just in terms of wifi or...?
hollow thorn
let's see
same VRMs
much better wifi
that doesn't look so good compared to the AX200
prisma nymph
sus
cedar leaf
that doesn't look so good compared to the AX200
Yeah AX will be nice to have just won't be fully utilized
cedar leaf
Unless you live in Tokyo or Taiwan where WiFi 6 is almost already the new standard LMAO
hollow thorn
433mbps can actually be a bottleneck if you have good wifi in the states
hollow thorn
no
cedar leaf
Or AC?
hollow thorn
for the specific chip on the pro ac
cedar leaf
Right
icy wave
i wish i had an ax chipset in my mobo
cedar leaf
So then the AX is beset then
cedar leaf
But you won't utilize the full potential of the speed just the bandwidth lol
icy wave
since y'all are talking about wifi is this a good router? https://www.netgear.com/home/wifi/routers/rax120?cid=us-wifi6-srch-cpc&utm_source=search&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=us-wifi6-srch-cpc
prisma nymph
meet facehugger
prisma nymph
lmao
cedar leaf
SCARY
prisma nymph
wait its an ac router lmao
icy wave
cause my dad got it for free for going on a buisness trip lmao
cedar leaf
cause my dad got it for free for going on a buisness trip lmao
dam
prisma nymph
is it even wifi 6
cedar leaf
That's crazy
cedar leaf
is it even wifi 6
Yeah
icy wave
ye
cedar leaf
It says
icy wave
the only time it boddlenecks is when my brother is downloadiung plex stuff
icy wave
there are around 10 people whjo use it on a daily in my house
devout mothBOT
nightbot_dark#7768 has been warned
cedar leaf
@prisma nymph To you live near Toronto?
icy wave
i think we have replaced the ATT modem four times since we've lived in our new house for three years
cedar leaf
I live outside of Toronto lol
icy wave
how many feet of snow do y'all have?
prisma nymph
none yet
icy wave
dang
cedar leaf
But explain to @icy wave how shi tty the wifi is up here in the GTA
icy wave
atleast you dont have to deal with at&t
prisma nymph
i have ethernet am in getting 76mbps down
cedar leaf
I used to live in Kentucky btw where we had ATT
icy wave
just to order a new modem oyu have to sit on a call for 2 hours
prisma nymph
well thats normalish
cedar leaf
It was better than the crap Rogers gives me
icy wave
i get 900/up 900/down :3
icy wave
we tried to cancel their tv service and they hung up on us twice mid sentence
prisma nymph
but my moms been with them for like 10 years now
cedar leaf
I get 250 mpbs down and 20 up
icy wave
whats the max you can get?
prisma nymph
ya'll got some fancy ass wifi
cedar leaf
We are paying for Rogers Ignite
prisma nymph
idk what we're paying for but i get 76 down max with ethernet ;-;
direct line to a provider prolly
icy wave
probably
prisma nymph
if thats a thing
cedar leaf
So the law up here doesn't allow fiber for old houses
Only newly built ones get that option
icy wave
ooof
prisma nymph
100+ year old house gang
cedar leaf
So I've got speedy cable so whats the point lol
icy wave
att has been adding fiber to the street slowly here
i wish we could get fiber straighjt into the home lmao
cedar leaf
At least it's there lol
cedar leaf
Lol byeee
naive pendant
https://www.amd.com/en/products/ryzen-compatible-memory/ready-for-3rd-gen-amd-ryzen
Question, if the memory I'm getting is not on this list, is there going to be problems on a 5900x?
elfin warren
Nah. That list is only for guaranteed compatibility and only products that amd tested. Get name brand stuff, it'll be fine.
naive pendant
Ok. Thanks. I'm probably going for some gskill ripjaws f4-3600c16d-16gvk and got spooked when i wasn't there. Trying to stick to B-die since i hear it's good for ryzen
elfin warren
B die is only a thing for ovwrclocking. If the stock clocks and timing are whar you want, any chip is fine.
naive pendant
Hmm. That's the one on the product name right like 3600? You just turn on xmp and it sets to that value?
deep basin
it should but you can often set the timing if xmp doesnt do it. you should be fine
hollow kraken
should i get 2 2x4gb ram kits or 1 2x8gb kit for ram?
toxic skiff
2x128gb
hollow kraken
all 3200mhz cl16 but the 2 2x4 is able to do cl16 for like 15 bucks more than the 2x8
all ddr4 btw
i meant cl15 for 2 2x4
unborn vortex
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-ga-a320m-s2h/p/N82E16813145054?Description=GIGABYTE GA-A320M-S2H AM4 AMD A320 SATA 6Gb Am I going to receive it with an updated BIOS to support 3rd Gen Ryzen?
toxic skiff
crosshair VIII is good, yea?
pale mist
yes
stable timber
Twitter on its way to annihilate me with restocks
pale mist
aand they are gone
unborn vortex
I meant gen 3
because I dont have Ryzen gen 1 or 2 to update it
I already have Ryzen 5 3600
elder ivy
you won't be able to drop a new Third-gen Ryzen chip into all X370 and B350 motherboards, and A320's upgrade path is blocked entirely.
Compatible CPUS on gigabyte
naive pendant
anyone have any idea why my i5 9400f doesnt like it if i try to overclock my memory past 2666
gritty meadow
elder ivy
is your motherboard possibly bottle-necking your ram?
gritty meadow
that is why
pale mist
prob a board thing
naive pendant
@gritty meadow people have used 3000mhz ram on a cpu that only supports 2666 and they are fine
it just downclocks the ram to 2666
not downclock but
gritty meadow
@naive pendant only with mainboard support that actually works :)
you might also just have ram that does not like the particular set of timings you are trying to run them at (at the oc clock rate)
naive pendant
oh you know what i think i just figured it out
i have 2 8gb 2400mhz sticks of ram overclock to 2666
and a single 4gb 2400mhz corsair vengance stick oc to 2666 also
im running fine with 20gb of ram @ 2666 but any faster and it crashes and yells at me to fix it in bios
pale mist
why 20?
naive pendant
why not
elfin warren
Cuz triple channel is spoopy
and can/will degrade performance
How it tpyically works is this
I'm fairly certain that by having that third stick, it's effectively all single channel mode but I'm checking my work
Gonna depend on chipset and CPU
But it's still not as fast as Dual Channel only, even in Flex mode. Unless you ABSOLUTELY need that 4 GB of ram extra, just remove it.
muted hull
can anyone tell me what motherboards will support a 5600x that won't need to have the BIOS updated?
obsidian meadow
asrock velocita, strix-xe, Dark Hero.
or just get a board with bios flash. super easy to update the bios.
lean warren
So for a 5950x, what's the preferred mobo? Gigabyte master or the dark hero?
master seems older, but the reviewers seem to still like it
stable timber
What fits your build better aesthetically?
pale mist
I like the x570 aorus master @lean warren , it is quite possibly the best.
also the crosshair viii
lean warren
I'm trying to decide between the corsshair dark hero and the master
pale mist
oof. like choosing a ruby or an emerald
pastel monolith
I would pick the ruby since they are worth far more money 😉
but both of those mobos are excellent and neither will outperform the other in gaming or any other application other than possible overclocking with liquid nitrogen but that shouldnt apply
pale mist
its down to personal preference and availability now
pastel monolith
and cost
pale mist
have had great experience with aorus and ROG
pastel monolith
too be perfectly honest shouldnt worry to much about the motherboard other than having the features that you want. Unless you are custom cooling and really putting a hard overclock on that cpu vrms dont really matter at all despite their mythos online.
fast citrus
For those who own Asrock b550 or b550m mobo, have you ever experienced Realtek not being detected in Device manager?
pastel monolith
are you installing the drivers from Realteks site or Asrock?
if doing one try the other
obsidian meadow
@lean warren I have the Dark Hero. It's pretty hard to get your hands on but it does exist haha.
lean warren
Heh, yea like everything else
I barely got my hands on the 3090 strix
can't get the 5950x yet, and now this damn mobo
obsidian meadow
yeah I got really lucky
lean warren
I did manage to get a 3070 twinblade white edition from zotac
obsidian meadow
ouu nice
lean warren
that's as far as my luck has gotten me
obsidian meadow
you in NA?
lean warren
new york
well, I also got an odyssey g9 for 1299
that's probably my proudest purchase lol
pastel monolith
thats a pretty monitor
long acorn
I am going to post a link to an external site, it is typically SFW (safe for work), though comments are not always moderated; experience may vary. https://wccftech.com/intel-z590-500-series-motherboards-launch-11th-january-rocket-lake-desktop-cpus-come-later-rumor/
Keep in mind that while the motherboards may arrive in less than a month, the CPUs will come later on, reportedly in March 2021 (though this time could be off by a 4~6 weeks either direction).
I figured I'd post this in here since y'all might be buying something during the holiday season. Though, that said, I'm not entirely sure the feature list will be that different VS existing motherboards such as the Z490.
...or just snag a 5600x or 5900x and a B550/X570 motherboard from AMD and be happy and forget about intel - unless you have a spare refrigerator or stock in an appliance manufacturing or water cooling company.
naive pendant
poggers
new memory controller
naive pendant
...or just snag a 5600x or 5900x and a B550/X570 motherboard from AMD and be hap...
if people can't wait
onlynoption rn is gonna be the 10th gen intel or the 50xx ryzen
long acorn
Yeah, you really can't go wrong on either option. Even a 9xxx intel or 3xxx Ryzen (I have a 3950x here and a 3700x in the drawer), is still plenty for gaming - more than plenty actually, unless you absolutely positively must have the newest/best. If you're the type (whomever is reading this) to build a machine every 3~5 years then it definitely pays to get the newest best tech.
Even those with the 8700k/8086k chips still shouldn't upgrade unless they want for performance or are trying to run BeamNG Drive with lots of traffic on (which it will use the whole cpu or just about that much, even on a 3900x/3950x). So unless doing heavy physics or LOTS of AI, while quad cores are on their way out (though still viable if that's all you can afford right now, especially with the current world situation), you might not really be as left-out as sometimes benchmarks would leave you to believe.
Sometimes just turning up graphics settings some to balance out the load a bit and make things less CPU heavy and thus less bottle-necked, can be all a person needs.
There's no such thing as a bad build, there's a such thing as a badly configured build or game though.
long acorn
poggers
new memory controller
What's a poggers anyways? Sorry, I am a bit out of the loop on the youngin lingo (no offense but no other way I could write that, I was in highschool in the 90's if that's anything to go by).
acts totally clueless ...
naive pendant
basically means lets go or amazing
naive pendant
Even those with the 8700k/8086k chips still shouldn't upgrade unless they want f...
pretty much
with ddr5 coming out aswell soon
though a 6c/12t might live pretty long till ddr5 becomes more acessible
naive pendant
basically means lets go or amazing
it's mostly amazing/very nice.
only gonna switch to ddr5 when usb 4.0 comes out
though the only one that hugely gonna benefit from ddr5 are APUs
yeah
with 5000mhz clock speed
feel bad for you with a 750ti
i have a like 970 sitting in a box
it's useable
it's way better than i had for 8 years
running a 1070 rn
i got it like for one month now
before that i had only a hd2000 and been my gpu for years
i could make pretty good bank if i sold my card right now
ye
i mean uh
i was using a hd7850 for a few months before shelling out 190 for this 1070
the 970?
no my card the 1070
ah
get like 300 for it and wait until stuff drops go to the 970 get a 2070? or a 3060?
long acorn
I still have a venerable Asus HD 7850 2gb Direct CUII in the computer I let my niece play minecraft (with mods) on, still purrs like a kitten, rock solid, no rattles or anything, is about 7.5 years old too. Must say ASUS knows how to make a long-lasting cooler on their cards. Surely it's nothing close to the 2070 Super in here, but I'm not nearly as happy with this card in here as I should be.
naive pendant
maybe, prices are about to drop and new cards are about to come.on next year
q1 and q2
long acorn
Jan or Feb for the 3080Ti / 3070Ti with doubled VRAM
naive pendant
and the 3050
long acorn
I think it's february, if I'm not mistaken for that release
I think the 3050 is due out sooner, not 100% on that though
naive pendant
there isn't any confirmed release date aswell
long acorn
About time nvidia kicks the VRAM dial up a notch though, I've been waiting, keep maxing this 8gb on my 2070S out here, really irritating.
Nothing is confirmed until nvidia sets it in stone and the completed cards are on their way to the stores / retailers.
naive pendant
nvidia awlays been really picky on the vram
while amd gives you more options and more vram
long acorn
Nvidia is too stingy with VRAM because they want planned obsolescence.
Ah well, time to fire up some old GTA V and try for the 65536th time to get the tank. I'll get it one day. One day.
naive pendant
steal a tank?
long acorn
Yeah steal the tank
naive pendant
ah
long acorn
If you put the tank in Micheals garage, wacky stuff happens, including you possibly falling out of the game world.
Sometimes ending up outside without the outside world loading, which is hysterical
naive pendant
i wanted to play gta V
couldn't on my old igpu
now i can't due to no more space on my ssd(240gb)
naive pendant
If you put the tank in Micheals garage, wacky stuff happens, including you possi...
lmao
long acorn
The game has fail-safe script that'll place you back on solid ground if you fall to the 'base' of the entire map, lower than you can normally go. Still fun to try though.
naive pendant
the only AAA game that i went underground was JC3
it was pretty creepy aswell as i do have a phobia of the void in games
or game editors/engines
long acorn
But I will go. y'all have fun. I want to game while my health is good, otherwise when my back goes out, I can't play anymore and have to get horizontal for some hours until I can twist it free (snap crackle pop!) again. It's possible to go underground in MANY games, however, all GTA's since at-least San Andreas have fail-safes that place you above-ground again if needed.
naive pendant
ye
alsos talking about the back
i really need a new chair
mine is destroying my back and my legs do hurt alot due to lack of space so i have to rest otherwise it's gonna be worse later on
naive pendant
Hey guys my laptop has an intel i7 tenth gen and its stock frequency is 2.3GHz but on AC power it runs at around 4.5GHz which is great, but only when on AC. On battery, it plummets to around 1.3GHz. Are there any settings to increase my clock speed while on battery power?
hollow thorn
Need to use software
And there's a reason it does that, it's to save battery power.
slim nymph
I use 3000mhz CL15 memory. Is there any point in me upgrading right now?
hollow thorn
Not really
slim nymph
Okay cool.
toxic skiff
Why is the Formula mobo $200 more than the Dark Hero?
I cant tell a difference?
azure cave
should i get timetec ram
deft inlet
MAG B550M BAZOOKA or GIGABYTE B550M AORUS PRO or ASUS TUF GAMING B550-PLUS
obsidian meadow
@toxic skiff cause of the ever so useful vrm water blocks on it.
river ledge
Can I mix two different ram sizes but there the same brand with same timings and speed?
elfin warren
Yeah but it will work funny
river ledge
Yeah but it will work funny
So will it affect performance?
river ledge
Ok
elfin warren
The 4 GB stick and half the 8 GB stick (4GB) will work in Dual Channel Mode (speedy)
If your RAM useage goes above 8 GB total, it will drop to single channel speeds (slower)
elfin warren
YW
river ledge
one more question. so let say have to 8 sticks in the 2 and 4 slots with the 16 in the other 2. will it still to the same thing that u said will happen?
river ledge
well i have asus z490e and an i7
elfin warren
SHould be fine, provided you match the sticks in the slots properly
naive pendant
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bHrTp2 whats a good mobo for this build?
river ledge
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bHrTp2 whats a good mobo for this build?
well it depends onyour budget
naive pendant
100-150$ for mobo?
naive pendant
yeah, ik im looking for one rn. Im looking for a cheap one and then later ill get an aio
river ledge
yeah, ik im looking for one rn. Im looking for a cheap one and then later ill ge...
u need a z490 so u can overclock your cpu
near cave
so for the g skill trident rgb will any set of 3200 mhz work with ryzen or is there a certain one that works for them
elfin warren
For Ryzen, you want 3600 CL16
Don't pay attention to whether it says INTEL or AMD ready, that's just marketing BS
near cave
I thought ryzen only supported 3200?
near cave
I have a 3600x right now but im playing to upgrade to the 5600x when I can get my hands on one
near cave
ok then thanks
elfin warren
Match the ram speed to the FCLOCK
with 3200 mhz ram, FCLOCK is only 1600 mhz instead of 1800 mhz
near cave
Im still new to computer building. What does FCLOCK mean?
elfin warren
It's basically the communication speed between all the cores/dies on the AMD CPU
near cave
Ooo ok thanks for the help again
elfin warren
YW
fluid gorge
Just received my msi 3070, but I only need a cpu for my new gaming rig
I need ryzen
The ryzen 5 5600x is not in stock anywhere and if i need one i will need to wait to around in january
So should i go for a ryzen 7 3700x?
Or should I wait
elfin warren
3700x isn't bad, I have one. It's beasty
prisma nymph
5600 will be coming out sometime early 2021 according to rumours and leaks
fluid gorge
No?
You can get it now
But it will be delivered in january
Should I wait the christmas over and first build the pc in 2021
fluid gorge
no such thing?????
prisma nymph
I just said it’s releasing early 2021 boi
naive pendant
Or should I wait
wait for the price to go down
fluid gorge
I just said it’s releasing early 2021 boi
Yeah I read it wrong i think. Thought you meant it was available to purchase
prisma nymph
Yeye ok
fluid gorge
wait for the price to go down
Wait for pricedrop on 3700x?
naive pendant
yep
fluid gorge
k
naive pendant
well...the price of it is equivalent of the 5600x tho
oh nvm
the price of it is still similar to what was on the launch
so uh...get it i guess? it's great to do some productivity work
but if you going to game, i would wait and see try to grab a 5600x
elfin warren
Mmm
It's only a 200 mhz boost over the 3700X
The 3700x has two more physical cores and 4 more virtual cores
I have my 3700x all core OC'd to 4.6ghz so
even steven in the end
fallen lynx
so for the g skill trident rgb will any set of 3200 mhz work with ryzen or is th...
trident z neo
buoyant ivy
any good mobo b550 for a 3600 ?
neat estuary
@elfin warren boost clock isn’t the full story here. The IPS increase in the 5600x blows zen 2 away in gaming and it matches the 3700x in most productivity to top it off with less cores. If your gamer focused it’s a no argument the 5600x is better.
oblique pulsar
@heady herald I think the msi mag b550
its pretty good
since its basically just the b550 version of the tomahawk max
neat estuary
No thats not accurate.. Their is a 120$ board that does that but it doesnt look as good
TBH any B550 at 90$ and up will run a 3600 just fine
Its not smart to ask"whats a good board for a 3600" You need to explain your needs. Wifi?, USB ports, Type c header, storage needs.. etc
unique copper
what is the best mini itx mb around 70$
i'm tryna build a mini itx where i recycle all of my old components
i got a 7600k and a 1060 laying and some 2x8gb of ram laying around
also would overclocking it be possible in such a small case ?
pastel monolith
with an aio sure
feral wolf
Someone plz help, got some new ddr4 3600 ram installed on my msi b450m bazooka max wifi board, and I'm getting no boot
hollow thorn
what cpu
feral wolf
Don't kill me for this, but Athlon
hollow thorn
that's why
feral wolf
Noted
hollow thorn
think athlon max supported memory are all like 2666mhz
feral wolf
Shite
I have a Ryzen 7 2700x, but I'm not allowed to install it until after christmas
feral wolf
Can't even get a screen
And I put my original 8gb 2200 stick in, and still won't boot
hollow thorn
reset cmos
feral wolf
Aight
neat valve
pastel monolith
safe yes recommended no
make sure speed and timings are all the same and you can try
dual channel needs a pretty close match
but its not nearly as strict as it used to be or some people make it seem
violet zealot
Dual channel is always better than single channel
violet temple
ok ty
violet zealot
But seriously get faster ram too, it's worth it 
violet temple
lol
deft echo
z490 gaming plus good?
violet temple
i heard faster mem doesnt have much effect on intel
violet zealot
That's sort of a half truth
violet zealot
There is plenty benefit to using fast RAM, but it isn't necessary to get 3600+ in most cases
violet temple
o ok
violet zealot
Try to get 3000 at least, it isn't any much more than 2666 I'm pretty sure
pastel monolith
has less of an affect on the cpu with intel is what should be said faster ram is still faster ram
violet temple
alr
violet zealot
Also keep in mind, you are limited in memory speeds depending on the chipset. If you get a B series or H series board you can't get anything faster than 2933 with an i7 or better or 2666 with an i5 or lower
Z series there is no limitation
violet temple
yes
humble wasp
can i put 2 same MHz RAMs with different companies?
eager shore
not exactly
you have to take into account other factors like voltages and timings
and form factor
humble wasp
so butter to buy 2 new RAMs and get the rid of the old one
eager shore
it will save you some time to buy the same model
naive pendant
can i put 2 same MHz RAMs with different companies?
yeah i have 2 different brands of ram same mhz those running just fine
humble wasp
uh ok
glad lodge
Can i ask question about the new motherboard i got. Do i update it everytime? or do i have to>
neat estuary
Upgrading a bios should not be daunting. Just buy a MoBo with a bios flashback option and you can never really brick a board anymore
frosty gale
5950x dropping tonight? Or 5900x?
Typically you don't update a BIOS unless you have a reason to
pastel monolith
amd cpu = reason lol
desert estuary
Whoops 😦
elfin warren
doh
deft echo
is the z490 gaming plus worth it?
upper tusk
ooh i think i managed to order a 5800x combo
eager shore
seems like it was
long geyser
@desert estuary from my understanding MT86 doesnt really stress the IMC and only the memory. Thus you can still have a memory setup where the IMC can cause errors even with a perfect MT86 run. MemTestV or OCCT seems to be nice in that regard.
restive halo
If both AMD processors were in stock which is the better buy between the 7 5800X or the 5 5600X? From what I can tell, the 5 is best for gaming with the 7 being better for video editing. Are the differences marginal?
restive halo
Most likely, which has me leaning more towards the 7, but I want to double check before committing given how difficult getting either is right now lol
elfin warren
Yeah, if you're going to stream, the 5800x is worth the investment
If purely gaming, the 5600 would be fine but the extra overhead is nice for OBS, DIscord, etc while you game
restive halo
Awesome, thanks for helping @elfin warren, I appreciate it!
elfin warren
YW
unkempt sandal
is the i9 10900k better than the 5800x asking becasue i can build out the intel one now compared to ryzen
elfin warren
Pretty neck and neck
unkempt sandal
or should i wait on the 5800x
unkempt sandal
so i should wait for the amd
elfin warren
$80 less for the same performance
unkempt sandal
yeah thats fair i just cant find any amds
elfin warren
Oh, that's entirely up to you. If you don't want to wait and don't mind the $80, go for it
10900K is a good processor
You won't be disappointed
Just depends on patience and budget
unkempt sandal
i just keep watching benchmark videos trying to decide
elfin warren
They're even
If you want something now and can afford the $80, go Intel
Nothing wrong with it at all
unkempt sandal
its so annoying that stock of them are as limited as they are rn
i fopund a 5800x on facebook market place and he has 500 bucks on it
unkempt sandal
no he only wants 500
elfin warren
Oh, that's not terrible
But I refuse to pay over MSRP for anything
I'm waiting for a 5900x/3070
unkempt sandal
yeah thats why i was thinking about the amd but issue is is its 2 hours away from me he listed it as he put it at 500 because thats what it was with tax
elfin warren
I mean, if you don't have the GPU to match, may as well wait
If your current system still works, enjoy it
unkempt sandal
wait for the 5800x
i am gonna sell the rig i have now to a buddy
just gotta wait to do it when i can get a cpu and gpu
elfin warren
Once I upgrade, I'll sell my 3700x/2060 or build my wife a new PC
Probably build her one. She's still running an old i5 4 core lol
unkempt sandal
i have a ryzen 5 3600 with a 2060 super
unkempt sandal
i get terrible frame rate on my 2060 super
naive pendant
is the i9 10900k better than the 5800x asking becasue i can build out the intel...
would be fair to compare like
5800x to the i7 10700k tho
unkempt sandal
yeah man i first got it was over 200 on most things and now im like 120
elfin warren
Well, if you want to compare price, yes. Comparing performance is a different story
unkempt sandal
these bench mark vids the frame rates being pulled with 5800x are sometimes 20 higher than the i9 10900
unkempt sandal
the 3080 in both at 1080
elfin warren
OH, well, that's not terribly surprising then. 1080p is more CPU bound than people realize
But it's probably like 250 FPS vs 270 lol
unkempt sandal
well maybe thats whats limiting my 2060 super then and yeah thats what it was in some games
elfin warren
Could be yeah
I have a 3700x with my 2060 and it does well
You running 3200 or 3600 ram?
unkempt sandal
3200
elfin warren
Mmmm
unkempt sandal
yeah i dont understand
elfin warren
I kinda do
unkempt sandal
what would it be
elfin warren
You'd get a tad more performance with 3600 CL16
Right now your FCLK is only 1600 mhz instead of 1800 mHZ
that's the communication speed between the cores/dies
SOme of them you can push as high as 1900 mhz but not all
unkempt sandal
so is there anything i can do to up the performance on this computer i have rn
unkempt sandal
how can i tell what the latency is
elfin warren
Ryzen master, do you have it installed?
unkempt sandal
no
elfin warren
If not, CPU-Z can do it too
unkempt sandal
i have the nzxt cam software and it tells me the timings
unkempt sandal
looks like 16
elfin warren
Ok, here's the thing
unkempt sandal
it says 16-18-18-38
elfin warren
You'd gain a slight bit of performance with a kit of 3600 MHZ CL16 RAM AND it would be great for your 5800x also
unkempt sandal
yeah the new pc is gonna have 32 gig of ram at 3600 witha cl 16
elfin warren
Ye, so you could get that now, get a slight performance boost, then pop it in the new system
unkempt sandal
true true
elfin warren
as long as your mobo supports 3600 which it should
unkempt sandal
its a b450 tomahawk max
unkempt sandal
i really wish this 5800x was closer to me
@elfin warren would you buy of ebay or would you only buy if yoo could know it was new or could see it before you bought it
unkempt sandal
by regular retailer what do you mean
elfin warren
Like, a real life store selling on Ebay
unkempt sandal
oh ok
elfin warren
Not just a person with an Ebay store
unkempt sandal
and it should say that in the description right
elfin warren
I spend so little time on Ebay, I honestly couldn't tell you
I mostly buy my motorcycle parts on ebay for hard to find old machines
unkempt sandal
i feel like i would get scammed on ebay
elfin warren
That's how I feel lol
unkempt sandal
i dont wanna lose 500 or so bucks
restive halo
Play it safe and wait it out. It's frustrating but you'll avoid any potential scam that way.
desert estuary
Bought my 5950x off Facebook market... paid $200 over retail, but worth it - this thing screams. That being said, buying stuff like this sight unseen is sketchy... be careful
naive pendant
@unkempt sandal 5800x isn't hard to get
just sit on amazon watching it
its so easy to get
ruby laurel
i feel like i would get scammed on ebay
have ordered tens of thousands from ebay and never been scammed
naive pendant
Tens of millions even
torpid hound
hey guys, is an MSI B550 Tomahawk mobo good for 3080 build?
i was looking at an asus tuf x570 pro, but from the images it seems that it wont fit.
pastel monolith
@torpid hound b550 tomahawk is a good board but what won't fit on the tuf?
torpid hound
sorry, i was tripping lol. I thought the 3080 wont fit physically on the motherboard
but im just dumb
on the tuf mobo
pastel monolith
lol no problem yeah it will for sure
naive pendant
sorry, i was tripping lol. I thought the 3080 wont fit physically on the motherb...
only thing that can happen is the card cooler blocking the a PCIE connection
eager shore
or if you’ve got a chonky air cooler, it might interfere
astral drift
I'm stuck between three MOBO's if anyone can share their superior knowledge with me: Gigabyte Z490 Vision G, MSI Z490 Gaming Edge, and Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Elite AC. Any strong thoughts one way or the other?
alpine aurora
yo guys u think its safe to put my mobo in its box in my luggage its an itx mobo
hollow thorn
as long as it's not going to be crushed, like in a luggage with clothing, not like dumbbells
alpine aurora
👍
last zephyr
Any recs for me on a new MoBo? My current RMA Process with ASUS has convinced me to never buy their products again, so anything non-ASUS would be great.
I had the x570-P until about 3 weeks ago. Anything in the $150‐$200 price range would be preferable.
elfin warren
What happened to it?
violet zealot
They giving you a hard time with the RMA?
last zephyr
@violet zealot @elfin warren Basically, the whole experience has been a mess. Shipped on a Monday, confirmed delivery last Friday morning. When it wasnt updated on Monday, I called and the tech said "48 hours in business days." Tuesday came & went, no update to the RMA ticket of it being received. Called Wednesday and spoke with another tech who said they would escalate the ticket ASAP. As I hung up, it was confirmed to have arrived at the facility.
Then I received an email today saying that, due to a scratch on the board, I needed to pay $140 to complete the repair and it didnt qualify under the warranty due to Customer Induced Damage.
Thing is, that scratch had been there installation and had never been an issue. What I sent it in for was a lack of power to the whole board, which happened AFTER a PSU capacitor popped and (presumably) fried part of the board. EVGA has receieved & sent back a new Power Supply during the process it's taken just to get an answer from ASUS.
Apologies for any typos, I'm in rage mode on mobile 😄
elfin warren
So the PSU blew up and took out the Mobo?
And ASUS will warranty it anyway?
i didn't know that was a thing
last zephyr
Essentially the PSU surged, took out the MoBo, when I asked for tech support they said "It's under warranty, send it in!" Then said "Ah, but there's a scratch, that'll be $140."
elfin warren
That's every customer service center always but I get it.
violet zealot
"Yup you're gonna have to pay us for the cost of a new board pretty much."
last zephyr
Exactly. Rather get a B550 Tomahawk for $40 more.
loud shard
I'm selling a brand new ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING MoBo if anybody interested.
elfin warren
@loud shard 9. No sweepstakes/giveaways, e-begging, trading or selling on this server.
loud shard
Sorry
fair swan
Can someone please educate me on CPUs? I'm a noob at PC's. So is a Ryzen 7 better than a Ryzen 5?
pale mist
@fair swan well, if you are talking about current generation yes. but something like a ryzen 5 5600x is better than a ryzen 7 1700x. if you want help making a PC list, DM me.
fair swan
Thanks
naive pendant
Can someone please educate me on CPUs? I'm a noob at PC's. So is a Ryzen 7 bette...
ryzen 5 is a series of cpus with 6 cores & 12 threads(except 3400g and 2400g)
with ryzen 7 having 8 cores & 16 threads
also depends on the cpu compared
magic light
why is it that the wifi on my pc maks my wifi worse? My laptop seems to have a Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless-AC 3165 and my mb has a Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168 but my pc is slower and slows down everything else?
I just built my pc too
naive pendant
so hard to buy the new ryzen been trying for weeeeekkkkssss
magic light
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/compare-products.html/wireless?productIds=94854,89450 there is almost like 0 difference
its so weird
fallen lynx
probably not good wifi reception where the PC is
?
wifi is way less consistent than wired
magic light
they're both in the same place
fallen lynx
it is physically impossibly for two separate objects to occupy the same place in spacetime
magic light
i mean they're basically in the same place
theres not much of a difference besides inches
and it's stupid that ones more efficient than the other
i might just replace my antennas on my pc
to see if that'll fix anything
fallen lynx
how far away is the router?
magic light
it's on the same floor and its like one or two rooms away on the opposite side of the house why i got wifi and not using an ethernet
shy ridge
I am debating between the waiting to try and get a 5600x or going ahead and getting a 10700k while they are $350. I play at 1440p ultrawide. Would i see a performance difference between the two? I have a 3080 if that helps any
violet zealot
Eh, not really
magic cedar
Either are fine tbh depends on if u already have a mobo
shy ridge
I don't have a mb yet, my mb is older I am running a 1600. I am building a whole new system
violet zealot
Actually the 10700K would be better in terms of performance imo just cause of the higher thread count. It doesn't matter for gaming right now, but for overall performance I think it matters
shy ridge
so obviously my cpu choice would dictate my mb schoice
violet zealot
Considering where the prices are sitting, intel really isn't a bad choice
magic cedar
If u need it now 10700k if not 5600xt
violet zealot
But I guess keep in mind, higher power draw if that is a concern
timid stratus
Hey guys. I have a 5950x coming in and idk if I should go w like a noctua dh15 or dark rock 4 or an aio
fallen lynx
i vote for DRP4
oblique geyser
am i going to have a bottleneck with a i7 7700k and rtx 2070 non super ?
fallen lynx
literally everything is a "bottleneck"
hardy moon
@shy ridge 9900k is 330 on Newegg rn
toxic skiff
how accurate is Windows Memory Diagnostic?
shy ridge
@hardy moon The 10700k is $319. Would it be a better deal?
spare gyro
A nude before I block her up
hoary latch
a
hardy moon
The 9900k is pretty good I’m not the expert on intel but I’m pretty sure it’s better @shy ridge
spare gyro
naive pendant
I know it's not an optimal solution, but would it be ok for me to use a 5600x with a b450 motherboard for at least a few months? I've see a lot of things online warning against that, so im not sure.
pliant cypress
I think there are a few mobos that can support it
iirc asrock released update early for some of their b450 boards
naive pendant
Yeah, im using an asrock board
I think it said it on the website, but just wanted to make sure
prime echo
Say, anyone know when the GIGABYTE B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 is coming to NewEgg Canada?
prime echo
Nevermind, I found it :3
naive pendant
The 9900k is pretty good I’m not the expert on intel but I’m pretty sure it’s be...
it is a great cpu but depends on how much you gonna get it for
naive pendant
<@!403698294892789780> The 10700k is $319. Would it be a better deal?
yep, a really great deal for the price.
ashen cipher
would i be bottle-necking getting a ryzen 7 3700x with a 3070?
naive pendant
raspberry pi doesn't work with a 3090 lol
ashen cipher
ik
naive pendant
though would be interesing
ashen cipher
in #build-pics would that be good?
indigo bay
So I’m between getting an i7 9700k coffee lake or a ryzen 7 3700x and I don’t know like what motherboard would be the best reliable one for either
I’m trying to build like my first computer so I don’t really have a whole lot of knowledge in it. I just know that I’d like m.2 for ssd that’s all I know like for sure