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hollow thorn Dec 10, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Need wifi?

terse crater Dec 10, 2020, 12:04 AM

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nope

hollow thorn Dec 10, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Try a B550m Aorus pro then

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Bios flashback is nice, good vrm, and plenty of usb ports for io

terse crater Dec 10, 2020, 12:07 AM

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would i have any issues updating the bios, pc part picker tells me i might need to use another cpu in order to update it

hollow thorn Dec 10, 2020, 12:07 AM

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That's what bios flashback is for :D

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Or as gigabyte calls it, Q flash plus

terse crater Dec 10, 2020, 12:08 AM

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oh that's convenient thanks

empty urchin Dec 10, 2020, 12:11 AM

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I think I managed to order a 5600 finally

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it says it's in Packaging phase, here's hoping they dont cancel it on me

hollow thorn Dec 10, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Good luck man

empty urchin Dec 10, 2020, 12:12 AM

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and then I just have to return some RAM 😄

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 12:41 AM

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@gritty meadow hey i have a issue so curretly it shows that i have 12 out of my 16gb of ram in hardware reserve

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upodated windows did some what most forums said

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 12:45 AM

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shows where?

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 12:50 AM

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task manager

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and please at me i forget a lot to check

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@gritty meadow

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it shows 12gb in hardware resrrve gskill 3200mhz has been working great till today

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 12:54 AM

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grab a screenshot @tulip talon

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 12:54 AM

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got it

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@gritty meadow I will continue to at if that’s okay 🙂

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📎 image0.jpg

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 12:56 AM

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ah, have you been playing around with your bios by chance?

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and yes, @ is fine @tulip talon

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 12:57 AM

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yes ive tried this is a customers btw so we were on a factime for a couple hours 🙂

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its a gigabyte b450 wifi pro

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ive tred to find something like remapping memory or something like it

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but no luck @gritty meadow

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 12:58 AM

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have you reset their bios?

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@tulip talon

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 12:58 AM

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yes doing a reset of settings for it

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 12:59 AM

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hmmm

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 12:59 AM

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no luck

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its weird idk im stuck

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 12:59 AM

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and there has been a clean win install too right?

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and its NOT a VM right?

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 12:59 AM

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no not yet i am rcommending

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what do you mean by vm?

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:00 AM

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virtual machine

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:00 AM

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like more than one account

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:00 AM

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like: is it running directly on the hardware, or ?

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:00 AM

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yes

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just on hardware

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:02 AM

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okay, the feature you have to take a look at in the bios is this one:

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UMA Frame Buffer Size

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its under the chipset section

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:02 AM

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uma frame is on intergrated graphics for the giugbyte series so it doesnt appear 😦

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ive tried no luck

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:03 AM

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and that setting is tied to the UMA mode above it

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:03 AM

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ill send you a photyo of it

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one minute ill at you no worries

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:04 AM

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no rush

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you are the one with the problem :)

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:04 AM

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thanks

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📎 image0.jpg

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@gritty meadow

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:09 AM

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hmm

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bit weird it gates it like that

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but oh well

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:10 AM

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yeah SeriousEgg

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:10 AM

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you had a look at msconfig?

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:10 AM

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yes the box was uncheck to start with

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tried that method and the registry too no luck

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:11 AM

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hmmm

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and just to clarify (because i cannot read your mind)

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:11 AM

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feel free

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:11 AM

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which button do you think i am talking about in msconfig?

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:12 AM

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msconfig boot options or whatever that is

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:12 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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the max memory option

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:13 AM

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yes

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:13 AM

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okay

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:13 AM

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suppose to check it or no?

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:13 AM

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its supposed to look like it does there

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:14 AM

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ok we will give it a try and put 1 in there

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:14 AM

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thats a limit on ACTIVE memory

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which you, based on previous screenshot, only have 4 gigs available of

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what is the history of this problem?

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:16 AM

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sold it 2 months ago no issues started playing valorant this morning was hella choppy checked temps they were fine but when he went into task manager the issue arose

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havent happened in pervious months because i helped him not to long ago with overclocking so it happened today.

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:16 AM

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could just be sticks that are effed

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:16 AM

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hes open to rma

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:16 AM

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is the OC on the ram too?

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:16 AM

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we ran a win mem test didnt appear any issues

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yes

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:17 AM

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remove that OC

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:17 AM

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it was a 3200mhz for months a gkill ripjaws

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we did its long gone

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that photo eariler was from when he texted me a couple hours back

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:17 AM

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hmm

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rule of thumb: if you have a system that "suddenly" starts acting up? Reinstall/restore back to a previous/earlier version of windows

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as in, back to a clean install if possible

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because no matter how much of a hassle that might be

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its still less of a hassle vs a RMA

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:18 AM

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yes okay he will do that

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do you have a vid of how to do a clean insall for him i really dont want to be in a call with him for the enxt hour again

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:20 AM

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nope, dont have a video on that

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:20 AM

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oki doke

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thanks for the help naed

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 1:20 AM

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you are very welcome

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depending on your curiosity, IF you are stuck on a call with him anyway, perhaps try and ask in varying ways "what exactly" he has been doing, because IF this is windows install related, and it just "suddenly" showed up, (and is fixed by the reinstall) there is a good chance he did "something" that he hasnt told you yet

tulip talon Dec 10, 2020, 1:26 AM

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ive just sent him a video with 1.6 mil views this is it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtHZueEZe9s

YouTube

Richard Tech

How to Reinstall/Clean Install Windows 10

In this video I show you how to reinstall Windows 10 to a clean state.

You can find the Product Key script and links here: https://richardtech.net/2018/03/how-to-reinstall-windows-10/

I’m not responsible for any data loss that may happen, make sure you have your data safe.

Windows 10 Built-In Reset Method: 0:22
USB Media Creation Tool Method:...

▶ Play video

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i have covid so my head hurts like crazy so the less things that i ahve to worry about the better

grand knot Dec 10, 2020, 2:44 AM

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hey um my case is missing 5 of the 9 stand offs for my new MB is there a place i can go to buy new ones or should i be okay with just installing 4 of them

violet zealot Dec 10, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Yeah you can buy motherboard standoffs, I don't know if there's a place you can go to get them though but you can easily order them off Amazon or something

tacit hemlock Dec 10, 2020, 4:05 AM

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I heard that ryzen 5000 series benefits on having all 4 dimn slots full. Is this true and is it a tangible improvement?

pale mist Dec 10, 2020, 4:35 AM

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@tacit hemlock in my experience the more RAM the better, but realistically unless you have bottomless pockets just get a 2 stick 16 or 32 kit and be done with it

tacit hemlock Dec 10, 2020, 4:47 AM

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But specific to zen 3, I heard you gained more cpu mmph when all slots were full

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 5:05 AM

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its not all slots, its single rank and dual rank @tacit hemlock (at least that is how it seemed to be from the GN video, but they actual piece on the details is still not out)

tacit hemlock Dec 10, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Oh there's a gn video? I'll check that out too. Ty

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 5:07 AM

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np

carmine lynx Dec 10, 2020, 5:08 AM

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so i might be getting more ram and also upgrading my cpu in the future, I have a asrock b450 steel legend ATX and I was wondering what board I should upgrade too. I have a budget of around 200-250 and the ram I am getting is more then likely 3600 mhz with a rzyen 9 5900x down the line

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 5:08 AM

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check the bios support (asrock should have released theirs) and you might not have to upgrade anything

carmine lynx Dec 10, 2020, 5:14 AM

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On the website it says it supports the 5000 series and 3533+ oc

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also I have tried turning on xmp on my current setup and I can't get it to windows

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it just goes to the motherboard screen and freezes

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 5:25 AM

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try and relax the timings

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as in, manually dial in the settings but a bit more relaxed than what the XMP profile tries to do @carmine lynx

ember knot Dec 10, 2020, 5:26 AM

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So my new computer doesn't display anything when it's powered, which I'm assuming it's due to the fact my X570 PRO's BIOS is not up to date with Ryzen 5000 series which I'm currently using.
Would it be possible to use a Ryzen 3000 and boot up the system, update the BIOS to the newest version, then replace the Ryzen 3000 with a 5000? Would that work?

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 5:29 AM

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yes, that will work

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that is the way that any board that does not support cpu-less bios updates will have to do it :)

ember knot Dec 10, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Yeah, I don't think I can do cpu-less update with this one

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Does it matter if it's a 3000 or not? Could I use like a 2000 or even a 1000 series?

wispy flint Dec 10, 2020, 5:38 AM

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is the x570 taichi a good motherboard?

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im pairing it with the r9 5900x

tranquil silo Dec 10, 2020, 5:39 AM

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not a fan of asrock but their taichi are ok

wispy flint Dec 10, 2020, 5:39 AM

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oh

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what do you reccomend for me to pair with the 5900x?

tranquil silo Dec 10, 2020, 5:41 AM

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msi meg ace or meg unify

wispy flint Dec 10, 2020, 5:43 AM

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oh ok

tranquil silo Dec 10, 2020, 5:43 AM

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tuf x570 is good too

ember knot Dec 10, 2020, 5:44 AM

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ember knot Does it matter if it's a 3000 or not? Could I use like a 2000 or even a 1000 ser...

Nvm I use a X570 so I can't use 2000s and 1000s

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But I'm assuming I can just use 3000s

carmine lynx Dec 10, 2020, 6:32 AM

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question what is the best b550/x570 motherboard for under like 300

tranquil silo Dec 10, 2020, 6:40 AM

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x570 tomahawk

naive pendant Dec 10, 2020, 7:03 AM

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I was thinking of making a home media server and I got this old computer with an i3-3220. It is enough to hold up or should i get something else?

tranquil silo Dec 10, 2020, 7:08 AM

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should be fine

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wont do wonders but should work

gritty meadow Dec 10, 2020, 7:12 AM

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ember knot Yeah, I don't think I can do cpu-less update with this one

going on memory here, but i dont think the 1000 series works in that chipset

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and i just saw your message further down :)

wise phoenix Dec 10, 2020, 7:35 AM

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Does anyone know where I could find coupons for free shipping? Tryna save a few bucks for fractal meshify C

naive pendant Dec 10, 2020, 7:36 AM

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🍯 honey

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other than that, not sure, sorry

wise phoenix Dec 10, 2020, 7:50 AM

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Oh okay thanks man

naive pendant Dec 10, 2020, 7:59 AM

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welcome

flat kraken Dec 10, 2020, 8:21 AM

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i only have discord, 2 tabs in chrome, task manager and msi afterburner open and temps from my cpu are 97

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pls help

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i should note i am using a laptop and the load in task manager is around 40%

halcyon urchin Dec 10, 2020, 9:41 AM

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Which is better?
64GB DDR4-4000 CL16 RAM
or
128GB DDR4-4000 CL18 RAM

meager river Dec 10, 2020, 10:18 AM

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It depends on what you want to do with the system

meager river Dec 10, 2020, 10:48 AM

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Okay so, my motherboard just says "selected file is not a proper Bios!" when i try to update the bios, even though it is indeed from the manufacturer's website. What should i do?

pearl zealot Dec 10, 2020, 11:27 AM

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Make sure you followed all the instructions- did you need to unzip or rename it, did it need to be alone, etc

halcyon urchin Dec 10, 2020, 11:36 AM

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meager river It depends on what you want to do with the system

CAD, Blender, Programming, gaming, streaming, video editing, encoding, decoding

naive pendant Dec 10, 2020, 11:46 AM

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halcyon urchin Which is better? 64GB DDR4-4000 CL16 RAM or 128GB DDR4-4000 CL18 RAM

Yeah 128GB for that

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make sure the motherboard supports it

meager river Dec 10, 2020, 11:58 AM

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@pearl zealot i've followed the instructions in the manual as well as looked up things online

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It is the correct name, but i also tried using the filename that was defaulted when i downloaded the file

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I've tried updating the bios through their software as well as through ezflash numerous times, none of it worked

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My USB-Drive is formatted to FAT32 and i've reformatted it twice

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First time i did it through the console and i assume that it was a quick format since it took almost no time at all, second time i formatted it through the Disk Management software

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However, after all that

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It still says "selected file is not a proper Bios!"

pearl zealot Dec 10, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Through what method are you trying to update, on what motherboard

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And what is the filename of what you downloaded

deft helm Dec 10, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Yea

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It just won’t go to the advertised speeds

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It also depends

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Go on the manufacturers website and see if they support ddr4 etc

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But that socket does

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So

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I’d assume it’s fine

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My mobo supported 2133 and I put 2666 in it and it runs fine so

boreal zenith Dec 10, 2020, 3:13 PM

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you can just change target frequency in bios until it posts

muted hull Dec 10, 2020, 4:00 PM

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do yall think newegg will continue to tell us the times CPUS are being restocked?

eager shore Dec 10, 2020, 4:00 PM

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idek

willow pilot Dec 10, 2020, 4:10 PM

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can the 9400F do basic video editing? when i say basic I mean like trimming and stuff.

eager shore Dec 10, 2020, 4:11 PM

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if my macbook air can, then your 9400f can

willow pilot Dec 10, 2020, 4:11 PM

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alright lol

pale mist Dec 10, 2020, 4:11 PM

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I used a pentium 4 for editing and I was just fine

willow pilot Dec 10, 2020, 4:12 PM

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my current 2012 macbook air gets to 230 degrees when i try to do... anything really so i decided its time for an upgrade and that was in the prebuilt im getting

pale mist Dec 10, 2020, 4:12 PM

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am useing an AMD a4 912OC

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rn

willow pilot Dec 10, 2020, 4:13 PM

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dang then 9400f will do just fine

naive pendant Dec 10, 2020, 4:24 PM

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willow pilot my current 2012 macbook air gets to 230 degrees when i try to do... anything rea...

Well...it's a macbook, overheating is pretty common

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jensen2

high steeple Dec 10, 2020, 4:37 PM

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https://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2Z3600C18-PC4-28800-Desktop-Vengeance/dp/B07FBVYFKH/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=3600+mhz+ram&qid=1607618230&sr=8-1

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Is this good mem?

fallen lynx Dec 10, 2020, 5:04 PM

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meager river It still says "selected file is not a proper Bios!"

sometimes the flash drives need to be smaller than 32GB max, make sure yours isn't too large.

meager river Dec 10, 2020, 5:04 PM

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It's 1 GB

fallen lynx Dec 10, 2020, 5:05 PM

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thats all i got

meager river Dec 10, 2020, 5:07 PM

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@pearl zealot I'm trying to update through EZ Flash 3.0 and the filename of the file (as referred to in the motherboard manual) is "PX470P.CAP"

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It's an ASUS x470-PRO

boreal zenith Dec 10, 2020, 5:13 PM

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? i literally have that same board and updated yesterday w/ ez flash

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ik it doesn't work if you use a usb 2.0 slot or a 2.0 usb, needs to be 3.0

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and then unzip the folder onto the drive

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and then open the folder when you're in the bios etc

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i can make screen shots if you want

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well screenshots and pictures bc i can't take screen shots in bios

pearl zealot Dec 10, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Have you tried the update by internet?

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Even if your flash drive is under 32gb, as required, and you put it fat32, as required, I hear sometimes it still doesn't make it right

high steeple Dec 10, 2020, 5:38 PM

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whatas the difference

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Between aorus elite and aorus pro?

boreal zenith Dec 10, 2020, 5:53 PM

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check the pins

burnt finch Dec 10, 2020, 6:26 PM

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I heard ram was going up in price is this true?

fallen lynx Dec 10, 2020, 6:34 PM

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i think it should be trending down, but it always fluctuates

atomic spruce Dec 10, 2020, 6:42 PM

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any recommendations for a good z390 motherboard for an i9900k?

violet zealot Dec 10, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Any of the Gigabyte Aorus boards are great for Z390

atomic spruce Dec 10, 2020, 6:44 PM

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ok yeah i was looking at the aorus z390 ultra

solar marsh Dec 10, 2020, 7:04 PM

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is there any specific way to find 2x8 rams

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or ram kits

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im trying to find a 8gb hyper x fury in 2x8

boreal zenith Dec 10, 2020, 7:09 PM

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??

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use filters

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most websites have them

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like newegg u can search ram and put filter of the brand, of 2x8gb, of the speed, etc

eager shore Dec 10, 2020, 7:13 PM

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solar marsh im trying to find a 8gb hyper x fury in 2x8

use pcpp, it has filters like speed, cas latency, modules, etc, and it gives you a list of different ram from different retailers

solar marsh Dec 10, 2020, 7:16 PM

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a

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also

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how does dual channel work @eager shore

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do u know about that

fallen lynx Dec 10, 2020, 7:28 PM

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you put two matched sticks in the correct DIMM slots

eager shore Dec 10, 2020, 7:32 PM

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solar marsh how does dual channel work <@!701918286115373216>

think of it as this, the cpu exchanges info with the ram and back using two channels, so there's more data getting exchanged efficiently

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here's a pic that might help you visualize it better

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📎 img.jpg

fallen lynx Dec 10, 2020, 7:36 PM

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yes, but it requires matched pairs of DIMMs

solar marsh Dec 10, 2020, 7:38 PM

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wtf is dimms

fallen lynx Dec 10, 2020, 7:38 PM

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the RAM

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is on the DIMM

blissful dragon Dec 10, 2020, 7:43 PM

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was able to get a rog strix x570-e while it was in stock for a short bit 😎

solar marsh Dec 10, 2020, 8:14 PM

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k

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also if i buy a kit of rams do they come in pairs with same id

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or i can just buy 2 separatley

fallen lynx Dec 10, 2020, 8:30 PM

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the kits you buy will usually say 2x8 or 2x16 or 4x8 in the listing

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236417

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like this one

solar marsh Dec 10, 2020, 9:12 PM

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so 2x8 is just 2 rams of 8 in a pair?

pliant cypress Dec 10, 2020, 9:12 PM

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two 8gb ram sticks is 2x8

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for a total of 16gb

solar marsh Dec 10, 2020, 9:14 PM

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is it cheaper to buy a pair

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or 2 separates of 8 gb

pliant cypress Dec 10, 2020, 9:16 PM

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probably cheaper to get a 2 stick kit

slim night Dec 10, 2020, 9:29 PM

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How do I overclock my ram to 3200 mhz

fallen lynx Dec 10, 2020, 9:29 PM

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you have to try a lot harder to buy a 1x8 stick of ram

boreal zenith Dec 10, 2020, 9:46 PM

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@slim night go into your bios and over clock there

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you can Google your motherboard bios for help on over clocking ram, or read manual

chrome briar Dec 10, 2020, 10:08 PM

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can ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 support ryzen 5000 without bios update?

Message #building-and-recc-chat

slim night Dec 10, 2020, 10:12 PM

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I tried but it doesn't take for some reason

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I change it to xmp setting and then 3200 mhz but when I actually turn on the computer it's only at 2666

azure pulsar Dec 10, 2020, 10:44 PM

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@chrome briar its not specific to any mobo

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just depends on whether or not you got an older piece of stock or a newer one

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i can recommend aorus boards though they are beter

chrome briar Dec 10, 2020, 10:46 PM

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How can I know?

pearl zealot Dec 10, 2020, 10:47 PM

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You cant

azure pulsar Dec 10, 2020, 10:47 PM

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yeah lol

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like i said

pearl zealot Dec 10, 2020, 10:47 PM

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You'd have to know when the actual motherboard was made

azure pulsar Dec 10, 2020, 10:47 PM

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just depends on whether or not you got an older piece of stock or a newer one

pearl zealot Dec 10, 2020, 10:47 PM

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But they are pretty easy to flash

azure pulsar Dec 10, 2020, 10:47 PM

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aorus mobos have flashback which is very poggers !

chrome briar Dec 10, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Mine doesn't support flashback

pearl zealot Dec 10, 2020, 10:48 PM

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If your motherboard has flashback its easy, I should say

azure pulsar Dec 10, 2020, 10:48 PM

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did you already buy it?

pearl zealot Dec 10, 2020, 10:48 PM

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If not you need a cheap cpu that's already compatible with the motherboard

high steeple Dec 10, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Should I go with the auros elite z390 or the asus prime z390-a

azure pulsar Dec 10, 2020, 10:48 PM

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aorus elite

chrome briar Dec 10, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Yeah unfortunately because I was in a hurry I need to buy 5600x before it's out of stock again

high steeple Dec 10, 2020, 10:48 PM

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ok

azure pulsar Dec 10, 2020, 10:49 PM

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oooof

high steeple Dec 10, 2020, 10:49 PM

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il go with aorus

azure pulsar Dec 10, 2020, 10:49 PM

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well

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you can always just hope

pearl zealot Dec 10, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Worst comes to worst you'll have to buy a cheap cpu that works with the motherboard

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And install that just to flash it to install the good cpu

chrome briar Dec 10, 2020, 10:49 PM

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But I checked asrock websites they said its support ryzen 5000 after p1.20 update and this update released in August 2020

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How can I know if my new mobo have that updated?

azure pulsar Dec 10, 2020, 10:50 PM

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if it was released in august

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then theres a decent chance that itll come with that bios update

pearl zealot Dec 10, 2020, 10:50 PM

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It will work with the cpu if it's installed

chrome briar Dec 10, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Theres no possible way to know if its installed?

pearl zealot Dec 10, 2020, 10:51 PM

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I heard october for most board to come with the patch

chrome briar Dec 10, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Before I install my cpu?

pearl zealot Dec 10, 2020, 10:51 PM

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The way to know it's installed is your cpu will work

azure pulsar Dec 10, 2020, 10:51 PM

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if ur computer works

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then

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it works

chrome briar Dec 10, 2020, 10:51 PM

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If it doesn't will that effect my cpu?

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Or mobo?

pearl zealot Dec 10, 2020, 10:51 PM

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No

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It just won't start

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It's possible they might print the bios version on something that comes with it but mobo didn't have that

chrome briar Dec 10, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Maybe they will print it on the box

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I hope they will

pearl zealot Dec 10, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Either on a sticker on the box or maybe a sticker on a chip on the bios

high steeple Dec 10, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Is this fine ram?

chrome briar Dec 10, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Thank you guys

pearl zealot Dec 10, 2020, 10:55 PM

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It's cl18

chrome briar Dec 10, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Oh I remembered something I have my old ddr4 crucial ballistix 2400mhz 16gb ram
Can I over clock that to 3000mhz?

high steeple Dec 10, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Yea ik

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thats still fine

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still better then 3200 with cl 16

chrome briar Dec 10, 2020, 10:57 PM

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chrome briar Oh I remembered something I have my old ddr4 crucial ballistix 2400mhz 16gb ram ...

Its cl16

high steeple Dec 10, 2020, 11:02 PM

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azure pulsar aorus elite

Can the auros elite handle a 9900k

azure pulsar Dec 10, 2020, 11:03 PM

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if they have a mobo for that specific chipset maybe let me check

high steeple Dec 10, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Even for ocing/

violet zealot Dec 10, 2020, 11:03 PM

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It can, Buildzoid gave it the best choice for price/performance

high steeple Dec 10, 2020, 11:04 PM

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ok

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ty

azure pulsar Dec 10, 2020, 11:04 PM

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pretty much all aorus mobos are overclock capable

high steeple Dec 10, 2020, 11:04 PM

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alri

high steeple Dec 11, 2020, 12:23 AM

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@azure pulsar

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@violet zealot

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Is that ram ok?

violet zealot Dec 11, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Yeah it looks okay

high steeple Dec 11, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Ok

violet zealot Dec 11, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Timings are kinda meh, but it's fine

high steeple Dec 11, 2020, 12:24 AM

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I was just gonna order it

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I was gonna get the rgb versions

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version*

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but this is a better deal

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@violet zealot would 3200 cl 16 be better?

violet zealot Dec 11, 2020, 12:25 AM

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No that would be basically the same in terms of latency

high steeple Dec 11, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Ok

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So il get these then

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thats fine right?

violet zealot Dec 11, 2020, 12:25 AM

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The higher clocks are at least beneficial in some way

high steeple Dec 11, 2020, 12:25 AM

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with the auros pro wifi

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and the 9900k

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yea

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thats good right?

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@violet zealot

violet zealot Dec 11, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Sure, yeah it's fine

azure pulsar Dec 11, 2020, 12:31 AM

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huh

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uh

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1 sec

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@high steeple for the price yeah its pretty good

high steeple Dec 11, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Yea

full valley Dec 11, 2020, 3:47 AM

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hey guys I have a questio, Im running a 5500xt graphics card with an amd 3400g do you think its causing bottlenecking? and if so (until the ryzen 5k series cpus become more available) should I go ahead and upgrade it or just wait for a restock?

meager dawn Dec 11, 2020, 4:05 AM

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what is the difference between the 10900k and 10900kf

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is the 10900kf factory overclocked?

violet zealot Dec 11, 2020, 4:07 AM

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full valley hey guys I have a questio, Im running a 5500xt graphics card with an amd 3400g d...

Eh, not really a bottleneck technically. But the limited threads from the 3400G might be a concern going forward with future AAA games

violet zealot Dec 11, 2020, 4:08 AM

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meager dawn what is the difference between the 10900k and 10900kf

The F means there is no integrated graphics, K means the chip is unlocked for overclocking but it is not overclocked on its own. Though it does naturally boost up to a certain point on its own.

meager dawn Dec 11, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Thanks, I knew the K part however I was unsure what the F stood for. S stands for overclocked correct? I think I remember that about the i9 9900KS

violet zealot Dec 11, 2020, 4:10 AM

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No, S is a pretty new one we may not see it much at all if ever again. But the 9900KS was merely a top binned 9900K that could boost to 5ghz out of the box, otherwise its mainly hitting the same clockspeeds overall

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Maybe with slightly better voltages and temperatures? I would guess so if it's top binned silicon

full valley Dec 11, 2020, 4:21 AM

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@violet zealot i plan on upgrading towards the end of next year i did my first build in september and made a whole lot of mistakes and researched alot more into parts ,was just making sure I wouldnt have issues playing cyberpunk 😅

violet zealot Dec 11, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Hmm, I dunno honestly. No idea how many threads that game might be using, but at the very least it will run and be playable. Can't say the same for the base ps4 and xbone though

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Now that's a mess

deft inlet Dec 11, 2020, 5:26 AM

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i got OLOy 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model ND4U0832160BHTDA

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is it any good

red quest Dec 11, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Hello i've got a problem whit my 3600x, b550m ds3h and crucial ballistix is geting Bluescreen can anyone help?

wise phoenix Dec 11, 2020, 11:45 AM

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Hey guys, what mobo would you recommend for a r5 3600 or a r3 3300x? Preferrably a b550

naive pendant Dec 11, 2020, 1:10 PM

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violet zealot No, S is a pretty new one we may not see it much at all if ever again. But the 9...

Intel cucked people who bought that

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sometimes they didn't even ship the KS and just a regular k

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iirc

neat glacier Dec 11, 2020, 1:53 PM

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meager dawn Thanks, I knew the K part however I was unsure what the F stood for. S stands fo...

@violet zealot- S is just normal chips with better silicon, allowing them to have a 5 gHz clock boost- you basically just hit the silicon lottery if u got one, so to speak... similar to intel's golden sample 10900k, but not QUITE exclusive. s just stands for special edition.

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:02 PM

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So i bought some Adata xpg 3200 mhz ram and that is what its named on HWinfo, but the type of ram it says is 2666, is that correct, and did adata send me bad ram?

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or maybe im overclocking using the wrong xmp profile, the only option in the bios is 2.1, but in HWinfo, the ram says it is using 2.0

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all i want, if to have 3200 mhz ram, thats it. why must my pc hate me

prisma nymph Dec 11, 2020, 3:06 PM

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It’s not even at 2666, it’s at 1333

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I think

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Not too sure about bios stuff but that’s what it looks like to me

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Looks like it’s saying the name is 2666 but the actual speed is 1333

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:07 PM

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i thought the clock was supposed to be half

naive pendant Dec 11, 2020, 3:08 PM

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It's at 2666

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It's because on this software, it shows half the clock

naive pendant Dec 11, 2020, 3:09 PM

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prisma nymph Looks like it’s saying the name is 2666 but the actual speed is 1333

Unlikely for ddr4 to be at 1333 tho

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Unless you underclock manually

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:10 PM

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ill get into the bios again and show what i see

naive pendant Dec 11, 2020, 3:11 PM

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However...why is your ddr4 3200 clocked at 2666 tho

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Or is it just a model number

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:11 PM

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that is my question

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thats the problem im trying to solge

naive pendant Dec 11, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Did you pair a 3200mhz ram with a 2666?

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:12 PM

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nope, this is all the same kind of ram

naive pendant Dec 11, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Odd...

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:12 PM

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all 3200, all the same kit

naive pendant Dec 11, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Can you change the frenquecy tho?

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Or is it locked?

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:14 PM

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i can only change the xmp frequency not the actual one

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hmm

hardy moon Dec 11, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Idk it might just be that cyber power is wack

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:16 PM

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so here is the box(now that i look at it, the bandwidth is different

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in the box is my old ram

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the ram that came in this box is in my system

cyan yarrow Dec 11, 2020, 3:17 PM

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do you have 2 different sticks in the system? timing and frequency are different on them

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:17 PM

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lemme power down the system and pull them out

naive pendant Dec 11, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Check the box of the other ram

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:17 PM

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they are all from this same kit, i bought 2 2x8 kits

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its the same box

naive pendant Dec 11, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Uh...

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So probally someone swapped the ram inside the kit.

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:18 PM

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strange i bought it new from amazon.

hardy moon Dec 11, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Are the product numbers the same

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:19 PM

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im looking

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im pulling all the sticks out and laying them out

hardy moon Dec 11, 2020, 3:19 PM

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👌 ok

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:23 PM

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hardy moon Dec 11, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Yeah there all the same

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Hmm

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Do either of the kits by them selves get to the higher clock

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:25 PM

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i dont remember which ones came from which kit, they all look the same.

hardy moon Dec 11, 2020, 3:26 PM

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You can tell by serial number the top two are together and bottom two are together

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The top two are 24 and 25 at the end and bottom are 2 and 3

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:27 PM

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so my old ram was 2x8 2666, and then 2x8 3200, and since i wanted to upgrade to 3200, i swapped out all the ram for these new kits. im going to try only putting in my old 3200 ram and seeing what the system thinks of that

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this is the old ram(yes that is blood lmao)

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maybe i just have bad ram

hardy moon Dec 11, 2020, 3:29 PM

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That ram is different from your new ram though I’m guessing you already knew that

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:29 PM

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yes i know its different thats why i bought 4 whole new sticks so i could have them matcjing

hardy moon Dec 11, 2020, 3:29 PM

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K cool

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:29 PM

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im going to try putting in only pairs and seeing what each one is

hardy moon Dec 11, 2020, 3:30 PM

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It might be bad ram or that the motherboard is locked to 2666 because it’s a prebuilt but idk I’ve haven’t worked with prebuilt that much

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What frequency is it showing in task manager?

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:31 PM

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loading it up riht now

hardy moon Dec 11, 2020, 3:31 PM

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What cpu do you have?

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:32 PM

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7-2700x

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it said it was rated at 2666, but able to oc to 3200, at least, in my research

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hmm

hardy moon Dec 11, 2020, 3:34 PM

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What mother board is it? Can you look inside your case and see

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:34 PM

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asrock b450m pro4

prisma nymph Dec 11, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Ah

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:35 PM

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please tell me that the problem is that the mobo is locked at 2666

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ill be happy enough that i found the problem

prisma nymph Dec 11, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Oh

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No, on amazon it says 3200

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Huh

hardy moon Dec 11, 2020, 3:35 PM

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On pcpp it says it supports 3200 mzh ram

prisma nymph Dec 11, 2020, 3:35 PM

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I thought that would be it

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:35 PM

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what.

prisma nymph Dec 11, 2020, 3:36 PM

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hollow thorn Dec 11, 2020, 3:36 PM

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hm

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:36 PM

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okay so this is the old ram loaded up, on hwinfo it said the same thing as the new ram, that its named 3200, but running at 2666

hollow thorn Dec 11, 2020, 3:36 PM

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if it's a b450m pro4, why does the bios look like that

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:36 PM

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its a prebuilt

hollow thorn Dec 11, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Maybe try flashing the normal b450m pro4 bios onto it

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prebuilt things weird

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:37 PM

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okay i dont know how to do that

cyan yarrow Dec 11, 2020, 3:37 PM

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https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-2700x supports 2933 mhz

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:37 PM

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still, doesnt solve why its running at 2666

cyan yarrow Dec 11, 2020, 3:38 PM

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other profile tries to bump it to 3200?

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:38 PM

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yeap

cyan yarrow Dec 11, 2020, 3:39 PM

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That's beyond me, never tried pairing faster memory to a cpu

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:40 PM

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it seems as if my problem is beyond everyone. i might as well call adata and tell them.

naive pendant Dec 11, 2020, 3:41 PM

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My bet is that you got a downclocked ram

hollow thorn Dec 11, 2020, 3:41 PM

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From what I can tell, there's no way to manually change freq in that bios? @slim night

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:41 PM

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the weird thing is, if thats the case, then all 3 kits are downclocked which is very very very dumn.

naive pendant Dec 11, 2020, 3:42 PM

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But have you checked every ram module to find the swapped ram?

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:42 PM

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ive checked every pairing at least

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all the pairings say the exact same thing

hollow thorn Dec 11, 2020, 3:42 PM

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And also, did you try running memtest86 on each stick yet?

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or occt

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:43 PM

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hollow thorn From what I can tell, there's no way to manually change freq in that bios? <@!2...

uh, not that i know of. i can change the xmp profile to 3200 but it seems that doesnt change anything

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each individual stick?

hollow thorn Dec 11, 2020, 3:43 PM

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If that is a b450m pro4, here's the actual non-cyberpower bios
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450M Pro4/index.asp#BIOS

naive pendant Dec 11, 2020, 3:43 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500101047612604427/786974168184651816/20201211_091408.jpg

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Well you got like

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One ram stick at 2133

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:43 PM

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thats for both, they both say that at leasy

naive pendant Dec 11, 2020, 3:43 PM

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And with other system timing

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:44 PM

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in uh hwinfo it says they are running 2666

hollow thorn Dec 11, 2020, 3:45 PM

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uh

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I wonder

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16-20-20-38 kit might have diff timings from the other kit

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other kit might be 16-18-18-38

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but figure out how to manually change the freq first

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:46 PM

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one is 16-18-18, while the new ones are 18-20-20

hollow thorn Dec 11, 2020, 3:51 PM

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yea so XMP together won't like to work

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since timings would be different

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but try finding where you could manually change freq and just leave timings on auto

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:53 PM

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im trying but there is nothing like anywhere

hollow thorn Dec 11, 2020, 3:54 PM

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might want to flash the actual Asrock bios then

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:54 PM

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again i dont know how to do that

hollow thorn Dec 11, 2020, 3:54 PM

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look at the link I sent you, right there it tells you where you can find how to :P

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https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450M Pro4/index.asp#BIOS

slim night Dec 11, 2020, 3:58 PM

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im probably really dumb but unless the guide is in the manual, i cant find anywhere where is says how to flash a bios

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oh okay i see

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but which bios do i get

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the only usb stick i have laying around is my windows stick :(

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ill go pickup another stick somewhere for this, but for now, ill just plug in all my new ram sticks and play cyberpunk, thank you guys for the help, and ill be sure to come back once i change the bios

pearl zealot Dec 11, 2020, 4:10 PM

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The manual does tell you how to flash the bios, most mobos have 2-3 different methods

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You get the latest bios for your motherboard from the manufacturers website

cyan yarrow Dec 11, 2020, 4:20 PM

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In this case Asrock does not recommend the latest since he has a pinnacle ridge cpu

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iirc

indigo pivot Dec 11, 2020, 7:07 PM

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what's the deal with reserve m.2 slots

gritty meadow Dec 11, 2020, 7:07 PM

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hm?

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you mean, why does boards have 2 or more m.2 slots?

indigo pivot Dec 11, 2020, 7:08 PM

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"Note: The motherboard M.2 slot #1 is listed as reserved for future use and is non-functional."

gritty meadow Dec 11, 2020, 7:08 PM

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on what board?

indigo pivot Dec 11, 2020, 7:08 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qRhmP6/gigabyte-z490-vision-g-atx-lga1200-motherboard-z490-vision-g

Gigabyte Z490 VISION G ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

gritty meadow Dec 11, 2020, 7:09 PM

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https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z490-VISION-G-rev-1x/sp#sp

GIGABYTE

Z490 VISION G (rev. 1.x) Specification | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

Intel® Z490 Creator Motherboard with Direct 12+1 Phases Power Design, Direct Touch Heatpipe II /w Micro-Block Heatsink, Intel® 2.5GbE with cFosSpeed, 2-Way ...

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considering that i dont see anything weird here, i would say its just PCPP being weird

indigo pivot Dec 11, 2020, 7:10 PM

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oh okay

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thank you

gritty meadow Dec 11, 2020, 7:10 PM

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you are very welcome :)

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rule of thumb: always check the manufacturers website, to verify what PCPP tells you :)

indigo pivot Dec 11, 2020, 7:11 PM

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alrighty, good to know!

gritty meadow Dec 11, 2020, 7:11 PM

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PCPP is lovely for list building, but it IS made by human submitted data, so errors/weirdness does happen :)

indigo pivot Dec 11, 2020, 7:14 PM

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it's a very nice resource

steep crest Dec 11, 2020, 8:26 PM

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How do I know what stand off screws to use?

pale mist Dec 11, 2020, 8:27 PM

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the usually have a hexagonal shape

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but for the post part if it fits it fits

steep crest Dec 11, 2020, 8:27 PM

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I have 4 of those.

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And then 8 5*10 screws

pale mist Dec 11, 2020, 8:28 PM

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uuh... I would say if it fits it fits

steep crest Dec 11, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Ok. That sounds good lol

pale mist Dec 11, 2020, 8:30 PM

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your not going to damage anything doing it anyway (unless you screw WAY to hard)

steep crest Dec 11, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Yeah ik

vivid pewter Dec 11, 2020, 10:16 PM

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5600x just came in

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azure pulsar Dec 11, 2020, 10:29 PM

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give

prisma nymph Dec 11, 2020, 10:30 PM

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give

hollow kraken Dec 11, 2020, 10:38 PM

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enjoy

quaint sentinel Dec 11, 2020, 10:41 PM

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HI

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what cpu is that

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i mean what gen

eager shore Dec 11, 2020, 10:54 PM

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5600x

quaint sentinel Dec 11, 2020, 10:55 PM

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thanks

night briar Dec 12, 2020, 12:16 AM

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gib

eager shore Dec 12, 2020, 12:18 AM

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yeah ngl

pale mist Dec 12, 2020, 12:30 AM

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@quaint sentinel it is a 5th gen technically but on the zen 3 archatecture in am4 socket

gleaming trout Dec 12, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Does anyone any ryzen 5 3600 i can get and not over for 400$ because amazon tripping

zinc thistle Dec 12, 2020, 1:24 AM

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what does amazon say

gleaming trout Dec 12, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Amazon trying to sell me a 3600 for to much

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And their worth 200

zinc thistle Dec 12, 2020, 1:25 AM

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i want one also

pale mist Dec 12, 2020, 1:25 AM

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yeah, they are good but they are really expensive rn

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you can get a 5600 for that price used

pearl zealot Dec 12, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Stuff is hard to find right now, not a lot of good deals on the sold out stuff or the secondary stuff people buy because they can't find the sold out stuff

gleaming trout Dec 12, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Its that i order a Ryzen 5 2600 for 153 and i want a refund because i order it stock and on Nov-29-2020 and it still hasnt been shipped so im looking for a 3600 but their like 400 Right now and their not worth it that much

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You see and its lame also i wanted to build my stuff on the 25 since i got everything else

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zinc thistle Dec 12, 2020, 1:28 AM

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thats a L

pale mist Dec 12, 2020, 1:28 AM

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clever portal

gleaming trout Dec 12, 2020, 1:28 AM

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For school

pale mist Dec 12, 2020, 1:28 AM

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exact path?

gleaming trout Dec 12, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Its a website that has everything for your school work

pale mist Dec 12, 2020, 1:29 AM

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haa

gentle acorn Dec 12, 2020, 1:38 AM

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I have that as well because my teacher made me download a extension then it installed it as well...

pale mist Dec 12, 2020, 1:42 AM

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yeah, my school is really annoying about it

azure wharf Dec 12, 2020, 2:10 AM

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cant wait for the new intel core i8 9 core cpu to come out

naive pendant Dec 12, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Anyone can help me find a good source to decide wether I need x570 or b550 for 5900x?

brazen peak Dec 12, 2020, 3:26 AM

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any

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they both support it

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id recommend the x570 tho

hallow matrix Dec 12, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Ok I have a generalized question about my mobo, I would like to upgrade my current computer and it was originally a pre built so it has a pretty shite HP mobo, I was wondering if could get some help with rather or not it can hold a m.2 SSD and function properly

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Or even just a Sata In general

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I Have a "Sunflower" HP Mobo but I dont know a whole lot about the actual MOBO itself

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Any help would be much appreciated

pastel monolith Dec 12, 2020, 4:01 AM

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is there an m.2 slot and standoff screw to the right of the ram on your board?

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https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05939208 according to this it will but not sure if its the same mobo

hallow matrix Dec 12, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Yeah that's the one

hallow matrix Dec 12, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Would a 500gb 970 Evo plus work on it? I'm not keen like at all with technicalities of things at all

tropic kraken Dec 12, 2020, 5:04 AM

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whichs difference between gigabyte b550 vision d and asus prime pro x570?

naive pendant Dec 12, 2020, 5:52 AM

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the chipset

fickle flax Dec 12, 2020, 5:57 AM

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tropic kraken whichs difference between gigabyte b550 vision d and asus prime pro x570?

chipset, the b550 and x570 both support ryzen 3 and up but the x570 has the pcie gen 4 while the b550 has pcie gen 3

tranquil silo Dec 12, 2020, 5:58 AM

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b550 has gen 4 lanes for SSD and GPU

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rest of it is gen 3

crystal onyx Dec 12, 2020, 11:07 AM

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ok so boom... I got an I7 9700K for $200 at Micro Center

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plus I did some $20 off thing with a compatible MoBo... and they price matched my MoBo from newegg so... ez dubs

naive pendant Dec 12, 2020, 12:22 PM

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good cops

naive pendant Dec 12, 2020, 1:51 PM

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crystal onyx ok so boom... I got an I7 9700K for $200 at Micro Center

Damn...thats a really good deal.

mental bronze Dec 12, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Is cl18 ram fine?

tranquil silo Dec 12, 2020, 2:38 PM

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I remember buying a 9700k from walmart for a client...didnt arrive. Called them, said they'd refund. Bought one off newegg. Got two 9700ks at my door on the same day...

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returned the newegg one and basically got a 9700k for free

naive pendant Dec 12, 2020, 2:40 PM

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that's lucky dang

tranquil silo Dec 12, 2020, 2:41 PM

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this was back when they were like ~$350 USD each

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now theyre half that

naive pendant Dec 12, 2020, 2:45 PM

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your display doesn't show up ??

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08166SLDF?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=avu-20

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5600x

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in stock

midnight pollen Dec 12, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Woah what mobo is that

hollow thorn Dec 12, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Looks like H110

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which might not let you xmp

granite river Dec 12, 2020, 3:24 PM

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that looks old gui like my 2006 pc

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kewl

midnight pollen Dec 12, 2020, 3:27 PM

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ROFLEgg

spare holly Dec 12, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Hello everyone. Could someone assist me in picking out the correct RAM for an older HP machine?

spare holly Dec 12, 2020, 3:58 PM

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test

steady surge Dec 12, 2020, 4:32 PM

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@spare holly Hey there! which model is your laptop?

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So I could find out which DDR it is and what's the max ram?

gritty meadow Dec 12, 2020, 4:34 PM

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he has been helped in a different channel @steady surge :)

steady surge Dec 12, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Oh i see. Thanks for letting me know!

gritty meadow Dec 12, 2020, 4:34 PM

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np :)

mental bronze Dec 12, 2020, 5:33 PM

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I really don’t want to get banned for spamming but I haven’t been able to get this question answered in 12 hours in 2 different servers

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Is cl18 ram ok?

eager shore Dec 12, 2020, 5:36 PM

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depends on the speed

mental bronze Dec 12, 2020, 5:56 PM

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3600

eager shore Dec 12, 2020, 8:16 PM

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i mean imo, there isn't much of a difference while gameing

unkempt seal Dec 12, 2020, 8:44 PM

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3600 at 18 is fine, 16 is ovbi better but that jumps up price a ton.

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thats gotta be your call on the price, general rule of thumb for gaming is max out cpu/gpu quality (evenly) then play with the money for other things

pseudo ledge Dec 12, 2020, 9:29 PM

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hey guys, 3200 16CL vs 3600 18 CL, what do you thing its better ?

fallen lynx Dec 12, 2020, 9:29 PM

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whatever is cheaper

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basically the same

pseudo ledge Dec 12, 2020, 9:29 PM

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they're roughly the same price

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anyways, thanks 🙂

neat estuary Dec 12, 2020, 9:30 PM

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3600 cl18 is better @pseudo ledge

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on Ryzen anyway.. idk about Intel

fallen lynx Dec 12, 2020, 9:32 PM

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intel it makes even less difference

pseudo ledge Dec 12, 2020, 9:37 PM

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im getting an i5-10400

quaint current Dec 12, 2020, 9:54 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/kbp0np/cyberpunk_2077_seems_to_ignore_smt_and_mostly/gfjf1vo?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

fallen lynx Dec 12, 2020, 10:00 PM

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wow

leaden verge Dec 12, 2020, 11:20 PM

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I see Crossfire Heroes are back in stock but not the Dark Heroes yet. Given that it's impossible to get a GPU these days, worth waiting for the Dark Hero to order? I don't have a 3000 series AMD chip that I can use to update the bios (I realize the newer stock on Heroes should probably have more recent BIOS versions on them)

naive pendant Dec 12, 2020, 11:32 PM

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steady surge Oh i see. Thanks for letting me know!

u a fake???

hoary palm Dec 12, 2020, 11:36 PM

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prob is

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and not all hp machines are laptops

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 12:12 AM

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yeah they have there omen series

digital kernel Dec 13, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Is there an easy way to figure out how much current the VRMs on a motherboard can supply?

marble hare Dec 13, 2020, 12:28 AM

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just got round to installing my x570 unify to find that i don’t have am4 screws for my arctic liquid freezer ii

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what can i do?

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also this is probably a very stupid question but are you meant to remove the white bit from the backplate or nah

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📎 image0.jpg

fallen lynx Dec 13, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Probably not. Read the instructions?

mental bronze Dec 13, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Technically I could probably get cl16 ram but I kinda want a little bit of the RGB

marble hare Dec 13, 2020, 1:32 AM

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fallen lynx Probably not. Read the instructions?

doesn’t say anything about the backing plate in the manual i assume you just leave it as it is

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still i don’t have any am4 screws with my arctic lf ii

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would anything else work

fallen lynx Dec 13, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Is that the stock backplate?

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I mean from the MB?

eager shore Dec 13, 2020, 1:37 AM

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marble hare still i don’t have any am4 screws with my arctic lf ii

did your lf ii come with the backplate and mounting hardware needed?

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you can prob contact arctic for the mounting hardware needed

eager shore Dec 13, 2020, 1:39 AM

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mental bronze Technically I could probably get cl16 ram but I kinda want a little bit of the R...

rgb is worth it ngl

mental bronze Dec 13, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Ehhhh

eager shore Dec 13, 2020, 1:42 AM

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lmao

mental bronze Dec 13, 2020, 1:42 AM

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I mean like if you don’t care then it’s fine without

eager shore Dec 13, 2020, 1:42 AM

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don't get yourself slower components just because it has rgb

mental bronze Dec 13, 2020, 1:42 AM

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You just said it’s worth it

eager shore Dec 13, 2020, 1:43 AM

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i was joking

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and i think crucial has a 2x8 3600cl16 rgb kit for like 90 bucks

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lemme double check

mental bronze Dec 13, 2020, 1:44 AM

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I mean like if the rgb cl18 3600 is 83 CAD and non-rgb cl16 is 110 then is the rgb worth it

eager shore Dec 13, 2020, 1:44 AM

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ahhh cad

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i was talking about usd

mental bronze Dec 13, 2020, 1:44 AM

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I wasn’t really referring to that

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Just stating a fact

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Like I can pick up some Warhawk RGB 3600 cl18s for 83 and Ripjaws V 3600 cl16s for 110

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So is the lesser performance for rgb worth it

eager shore Dec 13, 2020, 1:46 AM

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if you want the rgb, sure, if you don't care, get youself the ripjaws set

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oh and btw, what does your list look like?

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just wanna know

mental bronze Dec 13, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Don’t really have one yet

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Lmao

fallen lynx Dec 13, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Speaking of warhawk

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How are you supposed to "oloy"?

mental bronze Dec 13, 2020, 2:27 AM

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I pronounce it oh-loye

prisma nymph Dec 13, 2020, 2:29 AM

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^

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 2:36 AM

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I love the warhawk

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aah a ghost

toxic skiff Dec 13, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Why are there so many mobo options @_@

naive pendant Dec 13, 2020, 2:03 PM

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toxic skiff Why are there so many mobo options @_@

It isn't hard to search mobo
Just choose one with atleast some vrm cooling.

toxic skiff Dec 13, 2020, 2:04 PM

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After filtering down on Newegg there are 11 mobos to chose between

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 3:59 PM

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whoops that's my old copy paste issue

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when i plug in my mobo to the psu to do a bios flash for my mobo and plug in the flash drive and hold down on the flash bios button a light comes on and flashes for 5 blinks then goes away

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:01 PM

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which board model?

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:01 PM

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i have a msi b550 tomahawk b550

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and a ryzen 5600x that i ordered and expected to come in tomorrow

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:02 PM

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https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B550-TOMAHAWK/Specification <- that board?

Specification MAG B550 TOMAHAWK

Welcome to the MSI Global official site. We are the top Gaming gear provider.

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:02 PM

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that's the one!

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i have the mobo drive files that i downloaded on msi's website and put on a flash drive (formatted of course) and plugged my psu into my mobo the 24 pin and the 8 pin and turned it on and when plugging in my flash drive and pressing on the flash bios button it shows a light on my flash drive for 3 seconds and my mobo does 5 blinks, but the lights go away and nothing else happens

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:05 PM

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have you followed the info in the manual?

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:05 PM

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lol i've been asked that 4 times haha, um im not sure which section i should be looking at, is it the m-flash bios section?

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:05 PM

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page 46, bottom section

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:09 PM

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i did all of that and the led does flash but it flashes for like 5-7 seconds and then no more flashes happen

rich nacelle Dec 13, 2020, 4:09 PM

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can using 2 2x8 memory kits cause problems as opposed to a 4x8 kit of memory

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:10 PM

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dont have anything but the 24pin and the 8pin connected

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:10 PM

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not sure if that's the normal process because i was watching youtube videos do it and they're saying it's suppose to be flashing for 10-15 minutes and it will stop flashing and then to unplug

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nothing else connected

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:10 PM

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you got ram installed?

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:11 PM

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no, was i suppose to install the ram?

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:11 PM

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no

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what is the name of the bios file on the usb stick?

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:11 PM

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msi.rom

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all caps

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@rich nacelle depends what you need the additional sticks for?

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it's more stability > performance

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:12 PM

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rich nacelle can using 2 2x8 memory kits cause problems as opposed to a 4x8 kit of memory

normally? no

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:12 PM

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storm spoke all caps

hm, is there anything at all connected? as in, usb connectors or anything at all aside from the 24pin and 8pin?

rich nacelle Dec 13, 2020, 4:12 PM

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well, i bought two 2x8 kits and couldnt turn o the xmp without not posting

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so i tried one kit and it worked

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and i have been having memory problems according to whocrashed and such

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so im not sure

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:14 PM

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nope, nothing at all, i connect the 24 pin and the 8pin and turn on the psu, and then plug in my usb stick

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from some of the youtube videos i watched. there's suppose t obe a light that's suppose to appear next to the I/O ports that's flashing blue/white but there's no light that flashes

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 4:18 PM

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@storm spoke Did you rename the file?

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MSI is wacky and need you to rename the bios file to MSI.ROM before using the usb flashing

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oh yea

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I'm blind

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you did

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:20 PM

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the LED light did not light up

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after pressing on the flash bios

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 4:20 PM

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You pressed it once correct?

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:20 PM

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yes

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and yes i did rename the file to MSI.ROM

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Could be worthwhile to reset cmos and try again

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:21 PM

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also, your usb stick is fat32 right?

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:21 PM

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fat32 stick yes, does it matter if it is quick format or no?

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and reset cmos (SWEAT)

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:22 PM

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the problem is that every matters or doesnt matter

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MSI (and the other vendors) are VERY bad at actually sharing info about what is needed and what is NOT needed

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your pwr_sw cable is NOT connected right?

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and yes, i know i asked earlier

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:23 PM

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i put my mobo away, i'll try again later

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:24 PM

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(and yes, i am fully aware that the pwr-sw cable should in theory NOT matter. But i have worked on boards where it did)

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:24 PM

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the only thing connected from my cpu to mobo was the cpu power and the atx power

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:24 PM

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okay

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but yeah, as mr1111 said, a bios reset would not hurt

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 4:24 PM

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No CPU installed, correct?

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:25 PM

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it has not arrived for him yet

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Alright

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:25 PM

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the 24 pin and the 8 pin were the only ones connected and the cpu hasn't arrived yet lol

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im just thinking that if the bios update was already on my mobo, but the rep i talked to over at msi said i have a late august board so it wasn't supported as of yet

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literally you guys are giving me more support than any other discord i've talked to

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ty

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:27 PM

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the problem/challenge is that there is bugger all indicator about "does X work"

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MSI does not know how long your board has been on a shelf

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nor do they know when exactly it was produced UNLESS you shared a serial number with them?

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Might be able to tell from model number

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:28 PM

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i did

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i shared the serial number with them

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Msi support ticket makes you put the info on iirc

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:29 PM

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okay, then no. your board should NOT have the bios (that supports the 5000 series)

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:29 PM

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:(((

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:30 PM

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@hollow thorn i keep forgetting that, i just call a rep normally (if i need to talk with one)

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Fair nuff

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:30 PM

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i could do a screen share with you guys and you can see the issue im just stunned

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Anyways should be reset cmos & try again time

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:31 PM

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ouf

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:31 PM

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and just to clarify: "okay, then no. your board should NOT have the bios (that supports the 5000 series)" <- that is about the CURRENT bios on the board.

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:32 PM

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it should not from what i've been told

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 4:32 PM

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@gritty meadow oh yea by the way, last time I tried to bios flashback, I held down the button and it wouldn't work, reset cmos, pressed the button once, and it worked, not sure if that's supposed to happen or common place, but it happened.

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:33 PM

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as i mentioned earlier, "the problem/challenge is that there is bugger all indicator about "does X work""

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:33 PM

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how would i reset the cmos?

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:33 PM

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so i am not surprised @hollow thorn

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:33 PM

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kinda new to pc building lol

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Intel's page but it's universal, battery method mainly
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

Intel

How to Clear CMOS to Reset BIOS Settings in Systems with Intel®...

Defines CMOS technology and how to clear CMOS using the jumper or battery methods.

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Yea, just bringing it up as a weird "possible cause" that I encountered.

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:34 PM

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also, page 38 of your manual

gritty meadow Dec 13, 2020, 4:34 PM

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hollow thorn Yea, just bringing it up as a weird "possible cause" that I encountered.

aye aye :)

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:43 PM

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@hollow thorn @gritty meadow sorry for the spam but i have the mobo inside the package box, could i take out the cmos chip without any plugs in it at all or does it needs the powersupply connected but with no power?

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 4:44 PM

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The cmos battery is easily accesable, usually next to the PCIe slot

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📎 unknown.png

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That's the cmos battery

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:46 PM

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sorry my wording is kinda confusing, but i don't have the mobo plugged into the power supply at all, or the mobo hooked to anything, can i remove the cmos without the mobo connected to anything or does it need to be connecteD?

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 4:47 PM

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What reset cmos does is a power cycle, so really, you'd want to unplug the PSU from the wall.

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:47 PM

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so should i have the psu hooked up to the mobo?

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Your choice

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either way, it should be unplugged from the wall

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 4:50 PM

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my question is how would the mobo know i reset the cmos with it hooked up with the psu

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 4:53 PM

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What reset cmos does is power cycling, literally wiping the stored bios settings in memory by not giving it any power.

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It isn't a software thing, you're just depriving the mobo of power

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 5:02 PM

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holy crap i almost broke the cmos prong

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@hollow thorn just to be clear, i don't need to have anything connected to my mobo when doing an CMOS reset, right?

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 5:16 PM

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just gonna paste the instructions again, no, nothing needs to be plugged in, rather things should be unplugged.

📎 unknown.png

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 5:17 PM

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ok cause it makes it sound like i needed the computer set up or at the very least the psu set up lol

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just wanted to be safe on it

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 5:36 PM

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ok so the cmos chip was out for a good 10+ minutes just incase and i put it back in

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gonna plug the psu in later tonight

raw abyss Dec 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Is there really a big difference between 3600mhz cl 16 and 3600mhz cl 18?

neat estuary Dec 13, 2020, 6:28 PM

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No

last nacelle Dec 13, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Is the ASUS Prime H310M motherboard good?

naive pendant Dec 13, 2020, 6:49 PM

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raw abyss Is there really a big difference between 3600mhz cl 16 and 3600mhz cl 18?

its like a 1.1ns difference

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in turn a 1% performance increase

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so No

raw abyss Dec 13, 2020, 7:04 PM

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So not worth the extra big $$$

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?

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 7:07 PM

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@last nacelle it depends on the CPU

last nacelle Dec 13, 2020, 7:07 PM

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I7 9700f

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 7:07 PM

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its a pretty bare bones board

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I would go something a little beefyer for that CPU

last nacelle Dec 13, 2020, 7:07 PM

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K

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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@last nacelle this is also matx but is probably better in every way but still cheap

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Xtzkcf/asrock-b365m-pro4-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-b365m-pro4

ASRock B365M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

last nacelle Dec 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Kk thanks 👍

spare gyro Dec 13, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Time to rebuild lol

📎 image0.jpg

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 7:25 PM

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damn

spare gyro Dec 13, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Microcenter had a good shipment today. I got this lots of people got their 3080s 70s and 60tis.

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 7:27 PM

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living in Alaska certainly has its downsides

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we dont have those

spare gyro Dec 13, 2020, 7:31 PM

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That sucks at least you can just open the window for cooling your pc 🤣

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 7:34 PM

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lol

agile pagoda Dec 13, 2020, 7:40 PM

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I need to update my motherboard anyone know what i have to do

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 7:42 PM

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bios update?

agile pagoda Dec 13, 2020, 7:44 PM

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i building new pc and i have a ryzen 3 5600 and a motherboard that says its ready for ryzen 2000 not 3000

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 7:44 PM

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what kind of mobo?

agile pagoda Dec 13, 2020, 7:45 PM

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o nvm im hella dumb

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it says on the box 2000 ready

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but

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there a big sticker that says amd ryzen 3000 ready

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idk how i missed that i had it for like a week

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 7:46 PM

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but what chipset is the mobo

agile pagoda Dec 13, 2020, 7:46 PM

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wym?

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 7:47 PM

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like B550, x570 or a320

agile pagoda Dec 13, 2020, 7:47 PM

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o b450M pro4

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it says 3000 ready tho so i dont need to do anythin

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 7:47 PM

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what exact mobo is it?

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asrock b450m pro4?

agile pagoda Dec 13, 2020, 7:47 PM

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mhm

violet zealot Dec 13, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Wait what's the CPU?

agile pagoda Dec 13, 2020, 7:48 PM

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ryzen 5 3600

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 7:48 PM

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a 5000 series

violet zealot Dec 13, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Then it's fine

agile pagoda Dec 13, 2020, 7:48 PM

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dat what i thought

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 7:48 PM

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oh nvm

agile pagoda Dec 13, 2020, 7:48 PM

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thanks for conformation

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 7:48 PM

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yeah those work togeather

agile pagoda Dec 13, 2020, 7:49 PM

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i buildin in today cant wait

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been playing on a laptop for like 3 years

pale mist Dec 13, 2020, 7:49 PM

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cool

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https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/dj2n9r/asrock_b450m_pro4_update_bios_for_ryzen_3000/

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@agile pagoda

slim night Dec 13, 2020, 8:40 PM

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the b450m pro4 also supports 5000 series with a bios update, according to the website

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you just wont get that pcie gen 4

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 8:54 PM

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@pale mist

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hi

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im having the same issue as beek, but im just trying to install the bios via usb flash drive and i plug it in i get a few lights and then no more lights

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bios flash

lone zealot Dec 13, 2020, 11:07 PM

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is there any z390 mobos with m.2?

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 11:09 PM

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HAYASAKA

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I KNEW IT

lone zealot Dec 13, 2020, 11:10 PM

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lool

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 11:11 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/9xdyea/m2_sata_ssd_on_z390_motherborads/

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 11:18 PM

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it was hayasaka all along

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 11:23 PM

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god she was so cute in the anime

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literally the best girl

hollow thorn Dec 13, 2020, 11:24 PM

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There is no Kaguya, only another Hayasaka

storm spoke Dec 13, 2020, 11:28 PM

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we never learn is so underrated it makes me angry

mental bronze Dec 13, 2020, 11:45 PM

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What’s a good budget b550 mobo?

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 12:07 AM

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B550m aorus pro

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B550m pro-vdh wifi when it's back to 110$

paper island Dec 14, 2020, 12:41 AM

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is getting a mb with built in wifi worth it

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or should i just get a wifi usd adapter

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bc im kinda dumb and built everything and just realised i dont have built in wifi lol

midnight pollen Dec 14, 2020, 12:46 AM

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unless you use ethernet built in is nice, if need to buy then pcie wifi card is preferred rather than usb

ruby laurel Dec 14, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Pcie wifi card with an intel module in it is ideal

fallen lynx Dec 14, 2020, 12:50 AM

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only get built in wifi if you actually need it

paper island Dec 14, 2020, 12:50 AM

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i need it bc my router is on another floor

ruby laurel Dec 14, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Run cable keeeek

plain hawk Dec 14, 2020, 1:11 AM

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I need a cpu and motherboard combo but I’m unsure which to chose. Any help?

fallen lynx Dec 14, 2020, 1:24 AM

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there are soooooooooo many combos

woeful scroll Dec 14, 2020, 1:42 AM

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can auto oc on ryzen master kill my cpu

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because i dont wanna mess with manual and idk if auto will do anything bad to my cpu or not because when it comes to overclocking im stupid

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oops wrong chat

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 4:39 AM

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if i may or may not be planning on running say a minecraft server off a theoretical family workstation (maybe just some graphic design) would it be smarter to go with a 2700x for the cores/threads or the 3600 for a slightly higher clock speed + higher generation/slightly better overall blah blah

naive pendant Dec 14, 2020, 4:41 AM

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lusty scaffold if i may or may not be planning on running say a minecraft server off a theoreti...

2700x because of the core count.

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servers does rely more on cores tho
depending on the server aswell.

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 4:42 AM

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minecraft server

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only needs one thread

naive pendant Dec 14, 2020, 4:42 AM

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uh?

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 4:42 AM

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maybe dump thread

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so a higher clock speed would be slightly beneficial

naive pendant Dec 14, 2020, 4:44 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20201214-014343_Firefox.jpg

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🤔

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 4:44 AM

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yea it uses like one main thread and usually two extra background threads

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i would theoretically also be using papermc which spreads it just a tad more as well

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in a perfect world i'd get something like a 3700x if i had slightly more budget

boreal tundra Dec 14, 2020, 4:53 AM

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what ram do you guys recommend me , i’m looking for a nice 2x8 3600mhz for 90$

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 4:54 AM

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usd or cad

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 4:55 AM

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what cpus would yall reccomend for a 3080 can be either intel or amd as i will be rebuilding

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 4:55 AM

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what do you plan on doing on your PC?

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gaming, streaming, editing?

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 4:56 AM

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gaming and schooling with some streaming

pale mist Dec 14, 2020, 4:56 AM

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@unkempt sandal any new i7,i9,r7 or r9 will work

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They won’t bottleneck at least

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 4:56 AM

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5800x or 5900x prob best option

pale mist Dec 14, 2020, 4:56 AM

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True but hard to find

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 4:56 AM

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if im trying to hit the like 1800 to 2k region for a whole build can someone part one out and put in here

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us

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not canadian

pale mist Dec 14, 2020, 4:57 AM

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If you can find it, 5800x

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If not, i7 10700k or i9 9900k

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A 3700x could work too but prices RN are not optimal on amd

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@unkempt sandal

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 4:58 AM

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ye cuz everyone wants amd

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lmao

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lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 4:59 AM

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grammar bot

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damn

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 4:59 AM

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i have a ryzen 5 3600 witha 2060 super rn and my frames have been dropping a lot

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:00 AM

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oh, what games?

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:00 AM

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cod mw and cold war

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:00 AM

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did you clean your PC at all?

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I think the specs should be enough

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idk tho

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:01 AM

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i mean how many fps should i be getting

pale mist Dec 14, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Yeah you should be shredding COD

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:01 AM

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i don't really know but probably over 60 if you turn some settings down

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:01 AM

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1080p?

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:01 AM

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or shredding yes

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:01 AM

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what settings

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:01 AM

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yeah 1080p when i first got it i was like 200 and now im like 120

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:02 AM

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which game

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MW or CW

pale mist Dec 14, 2020, 5:02 AM

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COD

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:02 AM

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both cods are that way

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:02 AM

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CW is just buggy as hell, that's the explanation

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:02 AM

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did you update drivers?

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:02 AM

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yes drivers are up to date

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:02 AM

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MW wise, check settings

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:02 AM

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how are hardware temps?

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:03 AM

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they never get above like 65 c

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:03 AM

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hmm

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i have no clue

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:03 AM

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so ik its not throttling

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:03 AM

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yea

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:03 AM

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and if i lower my settings to low it makes it real bad

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Look through the settings

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mainly like render scaling and rtx

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:04 AM

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the render is 1920 by 1080 and all the rtx is off

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:04 AM

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you got 3dmark?

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:04 AM

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no

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:05 AM

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oh well, UB will have to do

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run userbenchmark

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:05 AM

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how do i do that

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:06 AM

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https://www.userbenchmark.com/

Home - UserBenchmark

Top Market Research & Genuine Product Insight from our Users. Quickly find category leading products with UserBenchmark.

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it's good nuff to see if anything is very wrong

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:06 AM

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i dont know what im looking at

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do i just use whats in the browser or do i download it

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:06 AM

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download it

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:07 AM

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im running rn

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:07 AM

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@boreal tundra if u 90 usd the G.Skill Ripjaws are always a solid option

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Crucial ballistix better :P

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:09 AM

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will you want a ss

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:09 AM

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it'll give you a link

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:10 AM

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it wont let me post it

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i just sent it to you

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:11 AM

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https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/36866640

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@unkempt sandal XMP enabled in bios or no

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:11 AM

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no

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:11 AM

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prob want to do that

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that's the only thing 'wrong' from the hardware side

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:12 AM

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what is xmp

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:12 AM

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extreme memory profile

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:12 AM

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how exactly would i do that

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:13 AM

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go into bios

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:13 AM

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i press delete to go in there right

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:13 AM

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When booting yes

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Tomahawk max prob has old msi bios

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Ok im rebooting the pc now

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I'm in the bios

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Assuming it's the old bios, should be able just click the big ol a-xmp button

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:15 AM

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I'm assuming the A-XMP is what I need to turn on

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How do I save it then

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:16 AM

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press esc and it'll ask you if you want to save and reboot

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forgot where exactly the page was, haven't been on the old bios in a long time

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Ok I just got out of it

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What exactly does the xmp do

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:16 AM

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set the ram to the frequency it's rated for

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Without touching it, it runs at JEDEC defaults, which is 2133mhz

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looks like the kit is rated for 3200mhz

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:17 AM

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So I have been running slow

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Seems like it

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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but then would this change automatically over the course of time

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he said he used to get 200 fps

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now he gets 120

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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fps consistency

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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so when i put a new ssd i changed the boot drive and it changed it all

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:19 AM

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maybe

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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and i forgot to put that back on cuz i had a buddy help me

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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anyways try it now

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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im now at like 140 ish

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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do remember some updates make the game harder to run, and lower fps from that

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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which i still dont know how to optimize the graphics for the best performance

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Turn down whatever you don't care about, it's your own thing to tweak around, I tend to like to turn down shadow and effect quality, while leaving texture quality high.

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:22 AM

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its seeming to cap at 160 even tho i have no limit

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:23 AM

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you sure it's a cap?

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could just be the most you can get out of it

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:23 AM

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ok now we went up to over 200

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:23 AM

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fun

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:23 AM

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do you think it would be worth upgrading the pc to a 3080 or no

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:24 AM

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right now stock situation too iffy

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and at 1080p, 3070 will be good enough

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:24 AM

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i just wanna get the most bang for the buck

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:25 AM

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most bang for the buck FOR NOW would be 3060ti, need to wait for new low end options tho

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:25 AM

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oh 3060 ti can even play 1440p

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:25 AM

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ofc

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:25 AM

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at 1080p it can easily shred 200+ depending on the game

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:26 AM

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yeah i mean im not really into the 1440 i just wanna get like 240 plus fps on most games and all

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:26 AM

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oh 1440p 144hz is like the sweet spot

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:26 AM

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1440p 170hz is the real nice spot imo, with a 3080

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:27 AM

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you don't know what you're missing at 1080p and 4k is unneccesary

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240hz also makes less sense then 1440p

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:27 AM

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yeah im thinking of soon upgrading to a 240 hz monitor and wanna be able to get the most from it thats why im thinking of rebuilding

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:28 AM

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why the 240hz?

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hardcore gamer?

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:28 AM

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for comp, 3060ti is more than enough for 240hz, 3070 more for like 360hz at 1080p

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:28 AM

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competitive cod

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:28 AM

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nice

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:28 AM

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ofc comp settings

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:28 AM

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1440p is like the perfect resolution for gaming

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:29 AM

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yeah i am trying to get a comp advantage and something that will kick for years while i code and all

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:30 AM

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yea i feel that 1080p may not be quite enough

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:30 AM

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i kind of screwed myself when i bought this prebuilt from nzxt

lusty scaffold Dec 14, 2020, 5:30 AM

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although pumping 1440p at 240hz may need a 3080

hollow thorn Dec 14, 2020, 5:30 AM

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at least they use decent parts

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won't have an oem psu

unkempt sandal Dec 14, 2020, 5:30 AM

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yeah it was a pick a budget and then customize from there