#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 158

gritty meadow Dec 3, 2020, 5:26 PM

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you are very welcome, and best of luck with it

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it can be a long process

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but just know where the reset cmos/bios button is, and things will work out :)

lethal briar Dec 3, 2020, 5:27 PM

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you got me nervous over here lol

gritty meadow Dec 3, 2020, 5:30 PM

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nothing to be nervous about

lethal briar Dec 3, 2020, 5:31 PM

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@gritty meadow Sorry to bother but my memory is from G.Skill, I'm on there page and I guess I'm in the right section, I

gritty meadow Dec 3, 2020, 5:32 PM

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you still got the packaging?

lethal briar Dec 3, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Its* called Ram Configurator but it asking me for the model of my motherboard which isnt on the list

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for the RAM, yes i do

gritty meadow Dec 3, 2020, 5:33 PM

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there is a product/model name, that looks something like this: F4-3000C16D-16GISB

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that is the one you need to identify things with

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just plotting the model name itself into google, should give you the product page as one of the first 5 results

lethal briar Dec 3, 2020, 5:36 PM

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And the specifications is what I want, the breakdown of latency, speed, voltage, etc?

gritty meadow Dec 3, 2020, 5:37 PM

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aye

gentle acorn Dec 3, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Is this a good motherboard?

Check this out on @naive pendant: MSI MAG B550M BAZOOKA AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-b550m-bazooka/p/N82E16813144329?Item=N82E16813144329&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-13-144-329-_-12032020

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Oops sorry for the ping

naive pendant Dec 3, 2020, 5:55 PM

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what

gentle acorn Dec 3, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Didn’t realize it’d do that

naive pendant Dec 3, 2020, 5:55 PM

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yeah

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my name is Newegg#0001

gentle acorn Dec 3, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Yeah sorry

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I plan to use it with a 5600x

lethal briar Dec 3, 2020, 6:10 PM

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@gritty meadow my motherboard doesn't have a button for cmos reset but two pins I have to short circuit

agile pagoda Dec 3, 2020, 6:10 PM

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wat is a mattise cpu

eager shore Dec 3, 2020, 6:16 PM

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3000 series processors iirc

agile pagoda Dec 3, 2020, 6:17 PM

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eager shore 3000 series processors iirc

would that work with a b450 pro4

gritty meadow Dec 3, 2020, 6:17 PM

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aye, same deal @lethal briar :)

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they work equally well :)

lethal briar Dec 3, 2020, 6:18 PM

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okay cool your the best

eager shore Dec 3, 2020, 6:18 PM

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agile pagoda would that work with a b450 pro4

yes

agile pagoda Dec 3, 2020, 6:18 PM

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danks cuz i got a ryzen 5 3600 and it said mattise so i was wonderin wat it was

eager shore Dec 3, 2020, 6:19 PM

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make sure to get the bios update that will allow the mobo to recognize the processor

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besides that you should be fine

agile pagoda Dec 3, 2020, 6:19 PM

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ima have to look into that when all my parts come in

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is it ez to do that

eager shore Dec 3, 2020, 6:20 PM

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wait

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why won't you get a b550 board if you're buying new?

agile pagoda Dec 3, 2020, 6:20 PM

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oh

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well maybe ill get that but b450 65 bucks

eager shore Dec 3, 2020, 6:22 PM

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the b450 pro4?

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i thought that cost like 100 bucks or so

agile pagoda Dec 3, 2020, 6:22 PM

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on sale newegg until this sat

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15 percent off so its 65 bucks

heady root Dec 3, 2020, 6:31 PM

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the b550m pro4 is like 90 rn

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decent board

gritty meadow Dec 3, 2020, 6:52 PM

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@hollow thorn you asked me about SMT last night

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lo and behold, https://www.anandtech.com/show/16261/investigating-performance-of-multithreading-on-zen-3-and-amd-ryzen-5000 <- that got posted today

Investigating Performance of Multi-Threading on Zen 3 and AMD Ryzen...

hollow thorn Dec 3, 2020, 7:00 PM

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@gritty meadow Much thanks, maybe that pain to read wasn't for nothing :)
Interesting bit is the benchmark with 3dpm, and how they talked about the core has a lot of unutilized performance that could be seized, but the memory and cache is limiting it in other loads.

gritty meadow Dec 3, 2020, 7:02 PM

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as with a lot of other things cpu/architecture related, its a question of the trade-off

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and as mentioned before, (in the context of the Apple designs), there are some companies that do "weird" things :)

hollow thorn Dec 3, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Of course

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That's quite interesting on SMT though, I always just thought "duplicate thread, except weaker thread"

gritty meadow Dec 3, 2020, 7:10 PM

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its another of those: "its complicated" :)

hollow thorn Dec 3, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Heh

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Everything is eh, gotta learn it all

gritty meadow Dec 3, 2020, 7:10 PM

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:)

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the more you learn, the less you know

hollow thorn Dec 3, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Except VRMs for now somehow look simpler than I thought

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I thought they were black magic :p

gritty meadow Dec 3, 2020, 7:11 PM

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ah :)

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aye, they are not

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which makes the fascination with them by segments of builders even more weird from my pov

hollow thorn Dec 3, 2020, 7:11 PM

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I thought it was some crazy fancy magical thing that converted voltage, but no, just a few mosfets acting as switches really (plus a diode and a whatever it's called, but yea)

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Mhm

willow pilot Dec 3, 2020, 8:19 PM

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hey, so my cpu sometimes reaches more than 200 degrees farenheit when gaming, is this too hot?

azure pulsar Dec 3, 2020, 8:22 PM

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thats pretty hot

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@willow pilot are you overclocking at all

willow pilot Dec 3, 2020, 8:22 PM

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nope

azure pulsar Dec 3, 2020, 8:23 PM

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your cpu cooler is spinning?

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if its an air one

willow pilot Dec 3, 2020, 8:23 PM

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its a laptop but i can still hear the cooler

azure pulsar Dec 3, 2020, 8:23 PM

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oh

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how long have you had it

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on my gaming laptop, one of the fans broke on it after about 2 years of using it and i had to replace the fan

willow pilot Dec 3, 2020, 8:24 PM

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8 years, i am replacing it soon but not like next week or anything

azure pulsar Dec 3, 2020, 8:24 PM

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oh

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is it only that hot under heavy loads?

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or is it just like constant

willow pilot Dec 3, 2020, 8:25 PM

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only under heavy-ish loads

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i gave it a massive load one time and it just overheated and crashed so somewhat reasonable loads

azure pulsar Dec 3, 2020, 8:25 PM

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oh yikes

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yeah im not sure, it might be an issue with the fan

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did you clear any dust out of it

willow pilot Dec 3, 2020, 8:26 PM

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nah ill open it up later today

azure pulsar Dec 3, 2020, 8:26 PM

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yeah uh

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thats the first thing you should do

willow pilot Dec 3, 2020, 8:26 PM

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alright

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sorry im not a laptop techie lol

azure pulsar Dec 3, 2020, 8:26 PM

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yeah me neither but i got some decent experience cleaning laptop fans a few months ago lol

willow pilot Dec 3, 2020, 8:26 PM

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rn just with discord, chrome and zoom open its 175 degrees

azure pulsar Dec 3, 2020, 8:27 PM

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if yours is layed out similar to mine, you should be able to blow compressed air into the fans by just taking off the bottom panel

willow pilot Dec 3, 2020, 8:27 PM

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alright ill try that

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afaik ive never cleaned it so that is most likely the problem lol

azure pulsar Dec 3, 2020, 8:28 PM

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jfc

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8 years no cleaning

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lol

willow pilot Dec 3, 2020, 8:28 PM

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yeah its sad...

azure pulsar Dec 3, 2020, 8:28 PM

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for some reason my desk attracts dust

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i have no idea why

willow pilot Dec 3, 2020, 8:29 PM

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weird

azure pulsar Dec 3, 2020, 8:29 PM

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but like i can clean it

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and then a week later

willow pilot Dec 3, 2020, 8:29 PM

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is ur room or city dusty?

azure pulsar Dec 3, 2020, 8:29 PM

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nope

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just the desk

willow pilot Dec 3, 2020, 8:29 PM

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weird

azure pulsar Dec 3, 2020, 8:29 PM

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i think its the type of finish or something

willow pilot Dec 3, 2020, 8:29 PM

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yea that would make sense

pastel monolith Dec 3, 2020, 9:07 PM

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your desk attracts dust because of you

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any place where you are frequently at will have more dust being that 95% of it is your dead skin cells

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air purifiers work great for keeping it down though

keen coral Dec 3, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Hey what mobo would be great for a i7 7700 cpu?

azure pulsar Dec 3, 2020, 9:39 PM

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anything with an lga 1151 socket thats like $80-160 should be fine

keen coral Dec 3, 2020, 9:40 PM

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I’ve got a b250 rn

grand flax Dec 3, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Which x570 board should I get

maiden atlas Dec 3, 2020, 10:06 PM

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boards are all preference. go for the lesser expensive board and see if it has everything you need, and compare it to the more expensive. As long as its a 570 it should give you what you need for the latest Ryzen 3 processors

eager shore Dec 3, 2020, 10:08 PM

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yeah it honestly depends what you need

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if you don't plan on big overclocking and are not gonna take advantage of multiple 4.0 pcie lanes then go b550

blissful dragon Dec 3, 2020, 10:16 PM

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when amazon's "add to cart" doesnt work 🙂

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with a 5900x

keen coral Dec 3, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Fr fr

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I hate it lmao

blissful dragon Dec 3, 2020, 10:18 PM

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were you there too?

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only 2 people got it from the stream I was watching

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something like 75 warranty's added because amazon :)

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I appreciate newegg not trying to shove warranty down ur throat every time

zinc pivot Dec 3, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Hey all. I was on live chat with a Newegg CS rep who was unable to answer my question and directed me here. Not sure if this is the right channel or not, so lemme know if i'm in the wrong spot.

anyway, I got lucky enough to get one of the 3070 combos that dropped yesterday. it comes with a Asus Prime B550 Plus mobo. I already have a 5600x CPU that I plan on using for my new build. however, i know there are issues with 5000 series ryzen CPUs not playing nice with AM4 boards without the most recent BIOS update. I don't have an extra CPU on hand to update the BIOS on the new mobo, and from what I can tell, this particular mobo doesn't support "USB FlashBack" which allows you to flash the bios from a thumb drive

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am i just out of luck and forced to return the board? or is there another workaround?

maiden atlas Dec 3, 2020, 10:40 PM

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i thought as long as it was a 5xx board you were okay.. thought it was the 4xx boards that were the problem? I could be wrong

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maybe i'm thinking x5xx instead of b5xx

fallen lynx Dec 3, 2020, 10:42 PM

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You still need a pepper bios version even on b550 and x570 boards

median badge Dec 3, 2020, 10:42 PM

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what are good amd motherboards?

zinc pivot Dec 3, 2020, 10:43 PM

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I haven't booted it up yet (haven't got it yet) but i'm just trying to figure out if the board will work and most of what i found suggests it won't without the bios update..which i don't think I have any way to actually do

fallen lynx Dec 3, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Depends on budget and form factor

median badge Dec 3, 2020, 10:44 PM

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i can literally spend more than 300 dollars on the motherboard

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and no im not getting my parts right now

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everything is overpriced

heady root Dec 3, 2020, 10:45 PM

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good amd boards depend on the cpu you're getting

median badge Dec 3, 2020, 10:45 PM

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ryzen 9 5900xt

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i mean

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no

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im being so dumb right now

fallen lynx Dec 3, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Then just look at B550 boards and pick one that had enough stuff you want (rear I/O, USB-c, etc)

median badge Dec 3, 2020, 10:45 PM

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ryzen 9 3900xt

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my friend has it as a extra so he wants to give it to me

fallen lynx Dec 3, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Maybe asrock b550 steel legend or extreme 4

median badge Dec 3, 2020, 10:47 PM

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ok

fallen lynx Dec 3, 2020, 10:47 PM

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If your budget is that high, they're be good and still come in below

median badge Dec 3, 2020, 10:49 PM

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alright

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thanks

maiden atlas Dec 3, 2020, 11:02 PM

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That's a good friend

late pine Dec 4, 2020, 12:26 AM

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to all you haters who say 16gb is enough

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 12:31 AM

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lol

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 12:42 AM

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tf

green terrace Dec 4, 2020, 12:42 AM

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late pine

Show the rest

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How do we know you didn’t open 1000 chrome tabs? 😛

royal kernel Dec 4, 2020, 12:44 AM

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i have 60 open rn, not jokeing

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 12:47 AM

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big

fast umbra Dec 4, 2020, 12:48 AM

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bro I can't afford 64gigs

late pine Dec 4, 2020, 12:50 AM

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WSL 👀

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I am kidding though this is not a typical use case

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:06 AM

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is the b-550 asrock good?

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STEEL LEGEND

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:08 AM

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lol

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:08 AM

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?

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:08 AM

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I saw the ping

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and then the ping was gone

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and then you pinged ghost

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other than price it's good

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...

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.....

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it still pings them

empty urchin Dec 4, 2020, 1:09 AM

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the ping doesn't go away

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:09 AM

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don’t tell anyone

midnight pollen Dec 4, 2020, 1:09 AM

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KermitVader

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:09 AM

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i know but ppl don’t know it was me

midnight pollen Dec 4, 2020, 1:09 AM

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i don't even look at mobos much smh

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:09 AM

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smh

empty urchin Dec 4, 2020, 1:09 AM

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YouTried

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:09 AM

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is it good?

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the mobo

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oh you said other than price

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ok

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:10 AM

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hollow thorn other than price it's good

^

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:10 AM

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ik

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i saw

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fanks

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3200g

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:11 AM

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B550 doesn't support 3rd gen APUs so keep that in mind

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:12 AM

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sorry i mean 2200g

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:12 AM

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????

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That's even worse

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:12 AM

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lol

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Neither of those chips are compatible with b550

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B550 only officially supports 3rd gen CPUs and 5xxx CPUs

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:13 AM

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lol

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3600

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:13 AM

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3100 if it's a good price

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supposed to be 105-115usd

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:14 AM

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get the 200GE

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its $50

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:14 AM

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don't think b550 supports it

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:15 AM

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hmmm

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idk

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it’s athlon so it should

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:15 AM

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uh

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it's zen..?

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that's

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afaik B550 only Zen 2/Zen 3

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:15 AM

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AMD Athlon 200GE

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get that

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it’s $50

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:16 AM

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what is this advertising lmao

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cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:16 AM

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no i’m joking

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:16 AM

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I'm pretty sure it's not

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:16 AM

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lol

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it’s not even ryzen

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that don’t mean it’s ryzen

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amd ryzen 5 3600

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correct

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:18 AM

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price got jacked up but this is decent temp CPU
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1558667-REG/amd_ryzen_3_3100_quad_core.html

AMD Ryzen 3 3100 Quad-Core AM4 Processor

Buy AMD Ryzen 3 3100 Quad-Core AM4 Processor featuring 4 Cores & 8 Threads, 3.9 GHz Maximum Turbo Frequency, AM4 Socket, 18MB Cache, PCIe 4.0 Lanes, 65W TDP, Unlocked Multiplier, Includes Wraith Stealth Cooler. Review AMD 3100

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should be like 20$ less

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:19 AM

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it’s 10 cores 18 threads so it’s pretty good

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:19 AM

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what

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:19 AM

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the cpu u just chose

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:19 AM

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10 cores 18 threads

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what are you on about

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:19 AM

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lol

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in the description it says 10 cores 18 threads

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:20 AM

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it's 4 core 8 thread

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:20 AM

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see

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10 cores 18 threads

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:20 AM

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umk

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:21 AM

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cash money

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should i buy a 3070 or 3060ti

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@hollow thorn

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:22 AM

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3070 when possible

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:22 AM

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which do i buy if i am going to get a 1440p 170hz moniter

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@hollow thorn

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:23 AM

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what did I say

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:23 AM

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yes but which one would be the best for those circumstances

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high settings

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:23 AM

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what did I say

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:23 AM

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bruh

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:23 AM

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there's a reason why I say what I say

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:24 AM

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hollow thorn 3070 when possible

The answer is still this

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:24 AM

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but i could’ve been asking for a 1080p 144hz moniter

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Yes

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3070 gives more perf

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:24 AM

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perf?

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@hollow thorn

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:24 AM

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performance

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:25 AM

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oh makes sense

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@hollow thorn what’s the best moniter i could get thats 1440p and IPS

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and around $400

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:27 AM

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m27q

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as usual

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:28 AM

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it’s only 144hz does dat go good with the 3070?

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@hollow thorn

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hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:29 AM

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what

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:29 AM

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is this one good or too expensive

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:29 AM

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WHAT

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:29 AM

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huh

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i asked a question bruv

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:30 AM

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dunno man, looks like I answered that

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cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:30 AM

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i looked up the same thing on best buy

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and it was 144hz

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and $250

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:30 AM

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...

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:30 AM

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and 1ms

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i’m saying should i get the $250 one that’s 144hz or the one that’s $350 that’s 170hz and .5ms

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@hollow thorn

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wait nevermind

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:33 AM

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what

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there is only 1 M27q

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and it's 170hz

cloud idol Dec 4, 2020, 1:33 AM

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nvm

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it was the wrong moniter i saw on google

formal gull Dec 4, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Literally just bought this Ryzen 7 5800X CPU installed it, and it doesnt work....

atomic haven Dec 4, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Is your mobo and ram compatible

crisp mauve Dec 4, 2020, 1:51 AM

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LOLS

formal gull Dec 4, 2020, 1:51 AM

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I would assume so since Newegg put them as a Combo XD

atomic haven Dec 4, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Haha

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Did you update bios

formal gull Dec 4, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Oh good call ill go do that

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:52 AM

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what mobo

crisp mauve Dec 4, 2020, 1:52 AM

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did u guys hear that the made a rtx 3060

atomic haven Dec 4, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Did this man not update bios

crisp mauve Dec 4, 2020, 1:52 AM

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its tini

late pine Dec 4, 2020, 1:52 AM

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you gotta update bios

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even 500 series motherboards often don't ship with 5000 compatible bios

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:52 AM

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you could get lucky and it already had updated bios

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but updating bios is gonna be wack depending on mobo

late pine Dec 4, 2020, 1:53 AM

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hopefully you have a bios flashback button

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I used mine on gigabyte and it worked great

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 1:53 AM

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that's why I asked for mobo

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 2:08 AM

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very dumb question but

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if i get a cpu cooler that has the thermal paste pre applied

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i dont have to do any application of my own right

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i just put it on

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 2:10 AM

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yea

late pine Dec 4, 2020, 2:45 AM

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actually according to verge it is good pc building practice to add more

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 2:54 AM

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Anybody know any good AM4 mobos for around $120?

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USD

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Preferably regular price as I plan to upgrade my CPU to a 5600x in about a year

thorny jungle Dec 4, 2020, 3:09 AM

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I suggest getting a medium - high range mobo for a 5600x

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I'd spend like around 150-250 on a mobo for 5600x

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:09 AM

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quite vague

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and I'd rather not

thorny jungle Dec 4, 2020, 3:09 AM

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What would you do?

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:10 AM

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hm? I'd go for a decent 100-170 mobo, max being an B550 Aorus Elite ax at 170$

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B550 PG4, pro4, a-pro, elite, etc, bunch of good options

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Alright thanks

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Well, MSI boards with priority for having bios flashback at lower price points

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B550m pro-vdh wifi and B550 a pro

thorny jungle Dec 4, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Yea my friend bought an b550 aorus for his 5600x and he said it works amazingly

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:11 AM

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I plan to take it to microcenter to have them put it in for me so I likely don’t have to worry about that

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My parents wouldn’t trust me with doing it myself after last time

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I bent motherboard pins

thorny jungle Dec 4, 2020, 3:15 AM

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rip

formal gull Dec 4, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Updated my bios and the cpu works! Booted up fine and went update some setting restarted and now it just boots into the bios now and not the OS 🤦‍♂️

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:25 AM

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nice, did you install windows yet lel

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:28 AM

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So will not having PCIe Gen 4 effect the performance of my 2080 super?

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I found a board but it apparently doesn’t support it...

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:31 AM

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2080 super doesn't use pcie gen 4

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Alright so don’t worry about it?

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:31 AM

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yea

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Alright

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:31 AM

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wait

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@gentle acorn WAIT

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aren't you trying to get a 5600x

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:32 AM

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Yeah

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:32 AM

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why are you looking b450

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all B550 boards support pcie 4.0

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B550 gives guaranteed Zen 3 support

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B450 doesn't

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:32 AM

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It’s A520

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:32 AM

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a520 for 5600x....

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why not a b550 board

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:33 AM

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I was looking around at what websites recommend and one recommended a $80 board

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:33 AM

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. . .

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:33 AM

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For the cheapest option and all the others were over $200

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:33 AM

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I would like to talk to them

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@gentle acorn I personally listed a bunch of <130$ boards xd

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Oh lol

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No it was a website

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:34 AM

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B550m pro4, B550 Phantom gaming 4, B550 Pro-Vdh wifi, B550-a pro, B550m ds3h

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etc etc

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Yea, I'm saying I can give you more accurate suggestions for pricing, remember, an article can't go on Newegg and check prices :P

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:35 AM

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I was curious what’s this about

📎 image0.png

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Yeah

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:36 AM

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that's just 32bit OSes being weird

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you'd be getting 64bit if you're sane

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Alright

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I guess I did because I have 16GB working fine

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Also is there any motherboards that play audio without being connected to anything?

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:39 AM

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hm?

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uhh what

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Like without a audio card or being plugged into a speaker

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:40 AM

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oh without plugged into a speaker no

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Alright

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:40 AM

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there's no reason for mobo manufacturers to do so

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Alright

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:40 AM

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(other than for the beep, no like actual speaker for audio)

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Also does the 5600x have a iGPU? I was trying to look but didn’t see anything about it

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:44 AM

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@gentle acorn nah, non-g ending means no igpu for ryzen

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:44 AM

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Alright

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I honestly know nothing about AMD naming I just knew the 5600x was a good CPU and wanted to upgrade to it lol

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:45 AM

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:)

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Intel’s naming scheme is quite a bit easier to understand

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:45 AM

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I say AMD is much easier to understand lel

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g ending = iGPU
x ending = fun/expensive

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intel has k = overclockable
f = no igpu
kf for no igpu overclockable
ks for special stuff

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:46 AM

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Lol

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Alright

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I’m guessing the higher the number the newer as well?

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:46 AM

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higher the first number yea

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Alright

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Every one of those motherboards are on sale rn besides one XD

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Too bad I’m waiting a year to swap

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I’m 17 and the way I make money is by helping my dad do his side jobs so it’ll take a while to save up...

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 3:49 AM

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fair

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Also the feature that makes it basically like the CPU has 12 cores does that have to be enabled or is it by default? I forgot what it was called

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SMT that’s it

gritty meadow Dec 4, 2020, 4:18 AM

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its on by default

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Alright cool

paper island Dec 4, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Do yall know maybe when the ryzen 5 2600 will drop back in price

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This is insane

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350cad

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Same with 5600xt gpus

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And of course i decided to build right in the middle of this stock crisis bc im a genius

eager shore Dec 4, 2020, 4:50 AM

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lmao

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i saw the 3600 on best buy today

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for 200 usd

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then gone, no more 3600 at 200

paper island Dec 4, 2020, 4:51 AM

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There was a 2600 for 195 cad and it was instantly gone

eager shore Dec 4, 2020, 4:53 AM

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sheesh

sharp solstice Dec 4, 2020, 5:38 AM

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is this good ram?

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https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164221?Item=N82E16820164221&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-Envafd0IFM96HHl_9lHIpA

eager shore Dec 4, 2020, 5:43 AM

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yeah if you want rgb ram

pearl zealot Dec 4, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Some thermal pastes are not electrical conductive

tacit dagger Dec 4, 2020, 6:28 AM

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relatively speaking, which one will be readily available quicker? amd combo or intel+nvida combo? newest gpu and cpu that is.

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 6:40 AM

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i just realized do most mobos not come with wifi, my pc is across the house from my router so thats like necessary

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Not sure but you can buy a WiFi card that’s what I’m using

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I got one compatible with WiFi 6 for around $40

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 6:42 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Czdrxr/tp-link-archer-tx50e-pcie-x1-80211abgnacax-wi-fi-adapter-archer-tx50e

TP-Link Archer TX50E PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax Wi-Fi Adapter

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found this

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so does it just plug into a pcie slot?

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 6:43 AM

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Yeah and it sticks out the side of your case though which is the one thing I don’t like about them but at least it comes out the back where it’s less likely to be seen

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 6:43 AM

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oh ew

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back as in where the i/o shield is?

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or like the back back

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 6:43 AM

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Where the io is

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 6:43 AM

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ah

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i suppose thats not awful

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less awful than running an extension cord across the entire house for ethrenet

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Yeah

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I had to get one because my mom wouldn’t drill a hole in the floor to give me ethernet lol

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 6:44 AM

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lol

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i might try to convince mine to let me move the router to my room

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so i can do ethrenet

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maybe

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 6:45 AM

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I tried to as well she didn’t let me XD

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 6:45 AM

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oof

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 6:46 AM

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I even asked for maybe getting another router which she originally said no to but then she found out about this other type of router and said maybe but idk the status on if she’s getting it or not as really I’ve had no issues for a while

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 6:46 AM

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ah

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update i might get a second router bc we cant move the first one and were not running an ethrenet cable across the house

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semi pog

gentle acorn Dec 4, 2020, 7:05 AM

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Cool

rigid condor Dec 4, 2020, 8:14 AM

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Does anyone know where I can get a rtx 3090 founders edition

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Or where there re stocking and where can I buy the new stock

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I stuck with a 1050 mobile on a laptop so I looking to upgrade

spare gyro Dec 4, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Best Buy was the only place doing the FE I thought

wheat laurel Dec 4, 2020, 10:13 AM

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#graphics-cards

violet creek Dec 4, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Can I install my m2 after I install the gpu in the motherboard

midnight pollen Dec 4, 2020, 1:39 PM

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with the usual placement of m.2 it's best to install it before the gpu. the gpu is not hard to take out either so you can always take it out to put the m.2 @violet creek

violet creek Dec 4, 2020, 1:51 PM

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@midnight pollen the problem is my m.2 is gonna come a day after all parts come in and I don't have that type of patience😂

lime monolith Dec 4, 2020, 2:15 PM

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hi all, new to discord so may be the wrong place for this message but im trying to get a list of the components used in this build i just bought so i can buy some extra RAM and an M2 - any help would be awesome! ABS Master Gaming PC - Intel i7 9700F - GeForce RTX 3060 Ti - 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - 512GB SSD

cursive epoch Dec 4, 2020, 2:17 PM

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How about you give us a link?

midnight pollen Dec 4, 2020, 2:19 PM

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@violet creek aaa hate when that happens, well you can't get into os without drive anyway ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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if you want a list of the individual parts mike that might be hard to do, parts in prebuilts are subject to change based on availability. for a ram or nvme upgrade you probably just need to know the motherboard and maybe the ram if you wanted to add more alongside it. if you have the pc on hand you can check the brand and models

lime monolith Dec 4, 2020, 2:24 PM

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cursive epoch How about you give us a link?

Sure thing - https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali466/p/N82E16883360051?Item=N82E16883360051

sacred lynx Dec 4, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Omg I have a OMEN by HP Obelisk Desktop PC - 875-0014 Product Specifications and want to know if I can put a i9 9900k in it it’s a pre built please no hate 😦

cursive epoch Dec 4, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Man, I can't see the pic, can't really track down mobo on that ABS prebuilt

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@sacred lynx what cpu does it have?

sacred lynx Dec 4, 2020, 2:28 PM

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I7 8700 in it right now

midnight pollen Dec 4, 2020, 2:28 PM

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possibly a asus tuf but really hard to see lol

cursive epoch Dec 4, 2020, 2:28 PM

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hmm, nah

sacred lynx Dec 4, 2020, 2:28 PM

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I’m having such a. Hard time finding that motherboard

cursive epoch Dec 4, 2020, 2:28 PM

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that won't fit 9900k

midnight pollen Dec 4, 2020, 2:28 PM

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8th gen and 9th gen socket is the same iirc

cursive epoch Dec 4, 2020, 2:28 PM

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unless there's bios update

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yeah, but intel is intel

midnight pollen Dec 4, 2020, 2:28 PM

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lol

cursive epoch Dec 4, 2020, 2:28 PM

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every gen has different chipset

lime monolith Dec 4, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Yeah i assume the pic somewhat generic so ill just have to wait and see. Cant wait to test out the 3060 ti!

sacred lynx Dec 4, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Wait so it won’t work 😦

cursive epoch Dec 4, 2020, 2:28 PM

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ye

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check your bios updates in hp site first tho

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there's a chance the bios could have an update

sacred lynx Dec 4, 2020, 2:30 PM

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I sent a dm foxy

midnight pollen Dec 4, 2020, 2:30 PM

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"You might need to update your BIOS for compatibility with a 9th gen CPU. You have a prebuilt HP, it's possible they never put out a BIOS version for your mobo for that.

It's not even really worth the cost of upgrading to two more cores for gaming anyways." - some reddit post regarding that system

cursive epoch Dec 4, 2020, 2:30 PM

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^

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Is there a trick to ordering zen3 CPUs ?

slate night Dec 4, 2020, 2:34 PM

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no just be lucky

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 2:34 PM

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A time when they come in stock that I should watch for maybe ?

slate night Dec 4, 2020, 2:34 PM

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use nowinstock

cursive epoch Dec 4, 2020, 2:35 PM

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@sacred lynx Alright, just checked. Unfortunately.. there's no bios updates to support 9th gen

ember knot Dec 4, 2020, 3:08 PM

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@misty obsidian follow stockdrops on twitter

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 3:22 PM

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just went on their discord, it's awesome

ember knot Dec 4, 2020, 3:23 PM

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👍👍👍👍

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:49 PM

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whats the perf increase from 3600cl18 to cl16

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 3:49 PM

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more overclocking headroom usually

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I wouldn't buy high-end memory kits and run them at stock settings

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:51 PM

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like overclocking past 3600mhz?

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 3:51 PM

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do i need a 3000 series cpu to be able to run a 5000 series gpu?

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i have a b550m pro vdh wifi

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and im planning to get a 5600x

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:51 PM

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burnt mica do i need a 3000 series cpu to be able to run a 5000 series gpu?

no

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 3:51 PM

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do i need to do anything special

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motherboard is brand new

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this is my first build

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:51 PM

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no

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should have the updated bios

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 3:52 PM

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I have a 1.35v 3200 cl14-14-14-34 memory kit
I run it at 1.45v 4000 cl18-18-18-37

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Ok I am not messing with OCing lol

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 3:52 PM

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fresh river should have the updated bios

r u sure

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Yes

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 3:52 PM

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purchase whatever cheap ram and suck up the potential 10% extra gaming performance :p

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 3:52 PM

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on the box it says "supports ryzen 3000 series"

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Its a B550 Board

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you have a ryzen 3000 series

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 3:53 PM

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i have a ryzen 5000 series

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or im gonna buy a ryzen 5000 series

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:53 PM

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burnt mica do i need a 3000 series cpu to be able to run a 5000 series gpu?

what

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What CPU and what GPU do you have

devout mothBOT Dec 4, 2020, 3:53 PM

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crimxnal#1738 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 3:53 PM

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aw man

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i meant 5000 series cpu

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:53 PM

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ah

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You might need a bios update

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 3:54 PM

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i was told that i dont have to

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that im fine

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:54 PM

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By who?

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 3:54 PM

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a couple of peope in buildac

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buildapc

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dont tell me i need to buy a 3000 series cpu

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:54 PM

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oh boy

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 3:54 PM

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pls

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Does your mobo have a flash bios button on the AIO

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 3:54 PM

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what's your motherboard

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give exact model

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 3:55 PM

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fresh river Does your mobo have a flash bios button on the AIO

idk i havent opened

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:55 PM

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whats your mobo

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 3:55 PM

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misty obsidian what's your motherboard

MSI B550M PRO VDH WIFI

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:55 PM

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youre fine

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 3:55 PM

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it says it supports 3000 series on the box

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r u sure

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 3:55 PM

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📎 unknown.png

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Well you will need a bios update

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probably

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 3:56 PM

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https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B550M-PRO-VDH-WIFI/Specification

Specification B550M PRO-VDH WIFI

Welcome to the MSI Global official site. We are the top Gaming gear provider.

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:56 PM

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but you have a flash bios button so you don't need a new cpu

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 3:56 PM

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the mobo has a flash bios button

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ok

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when i build my pc imma come back here for help

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cause idk wym

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Alright

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Here

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 3:57 PM

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The button is required to update the bios when the PC doesn't boot due to wrong CPU ?

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Yeah

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 3:57 PM

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makes sense

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:58 PM

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the m-flash on MSI boards allow you to update your bios without a cpu or ram

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or any part besides power

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 3:58 PM

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it's garbage then

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what if I want to flash without power

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What if I'm on a camping trip in the woods with my new mobo

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:59 PM

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@burnt mica https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B550M-PRO-VDH-WIFI what you need to do is go to this link and put the latest BIOS which you find on this website on an empty USB thumb drive and the click the bios flashback button

Welcome to the MSI Global official site. We are the top Gaming gear provider.

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and thats it

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 3:59 PM

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misty obsidian What if I'm on a camping trip in the woods with my new mobo

unlucky

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 3:59 PM

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oh

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so i download it on a flash drive

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then plug it into the mobo

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 3:59 PM

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yeah, there's no other way I think

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 4:00 PM

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and then press flash bios

gritty meadow Dec 4, 2020, 4:00 PM

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@burnt mica there is a guide on their site, that you follow

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 4:00 PM

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usually flash drive is freshly formatted, with a specific file system and nothing else on it

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 4:00 PM

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and im done

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 4:00 PM

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yeah

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thats it

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fat32 i think

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 4:00 PM

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sounds about right

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 4:01 PM

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im crying

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i cant get a 5900x

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Why

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 4:01 PM

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then don't

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 4:01 PM

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cause they all sold out

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Do you not have one

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wait

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you dont have one bought

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?

burnt mica Dec 4, 2020, 4:01 PM

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no

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im getting either a 5900x or 5600x

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and a 3080

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and microcenter was a bust today

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 4:01 PM

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they're out of stock everywhere, I'm waiting also ready to buy

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 4:02 PM

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oh boy

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 4:02 PM

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there's some completely overpriced ones available on newegg.ca

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Im gonna be honest, theyre not gonna be readily in stock for about 3 more months atleast

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 4:12 PM

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stop being honest and sell me a dream

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 4:15 PM

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$1500, take it or leave it

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Hey guys i have a 10600kf paired with arctic liquid freezer aio, i am downloading some games and using some rgb software, i look at speccy and the temp is at 39-44 degrees is that high?

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 4:26 PM

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celcius?

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or fahrenheit

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:26 PM

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I saw from hardware unboxed and at idle the 10600kf is supposed to be around 20ish degrees celcius idle

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:26 PM

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azure pulsar celcius?

Celcius

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 4:26 PM

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i mean ur downloading games

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thats a cpu thing

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:26 PM

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I thought downloading games is almost like idle

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:26 PM

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azure pulsar thats a cpu thing

Ahh i see, so its normal then?

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 4:27 PM

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yeah

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downloading games is always done with cpu

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Its a new pc so i am kinda worried i did something wrong

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 4:27 PM

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check task manager it should be at 100% usage

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:27 PM

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And the gpu is sitting at 50 degrees celcius is that ok?

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The fans arent even spinning

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 4:27 PM

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uhhh im not sure on the gpu actually

cursive epoch Dec 4, 2020, 4:28 PM

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That's okay for it having the fans off

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 4:28 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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you should be ok

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Ahh okok thanks guys

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I was worried i screwed up something with my aio setup because i have it in pull config

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Instead of push

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 4:38 PM

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@unborn plaza don't use speccy, temps and readings are messed up a lot of the time

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:40 PM

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@hollow thorn ohhh

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So what should i use?

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Hwinfo64 is a common one

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Pog

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Ty sir

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Ohh while you are here can i ask you about case fan? @hollow thorn

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Sure

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:43 PM

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So i am using a lian li 011 dynamic case, 6 case fans (thermaltake riing quad, i believe they are radiator fans). So while i downloading games from steam and messing around with corsair rgb software, the fans were throttling. A few second spinning bery fast and noisy then it calms down for a few min and comes back on again

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Is that normal @hollow thorn

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 4:43 PM

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@hollow thorn is buying cl16 over 18 with 3600mhz that good of an increase? like what should i expect

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 4:44 PM

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@unborn plaza that's not throttling, just usual fan curve hovering around two speeds

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:44 PM

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hollow thorn <@219944142959149056> that's not throttling, just usual fan curve hovering aroun...

Ohh is there a way for me to set it? Through thermaltakes rgb software or the mobo?

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 4:44 PM

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@fresh river if you haven't bought it already, cas latency in ns for 3200c16 and 3600c18 are the exact same, 3600c16 being 1.1ns lower

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@unborn plaza try software first, but bios will do it for sure.

pure current Dec 4, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Is there a performance difference in gSkill Trident Z Neo vs non neo?

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 4:45 PM

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10ns vs 8.89ns

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@pure current just looks

fresh river Dec 4, 2020, 4:45 PM

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hollow thorn <@319182510548451329> if you haven't bought it already, cas latency in ns for 32...

sorry i meant both at 3600mhz but one kit has cl16 one has cl18, how much better is the cl16

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Yes

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:45 PM

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hollow thorn <@319182510548451329> if you haven't bought it already, cas latency in ns for 32...

Also when i go to cpu z my ram is running at 1600mhz, do i have go go to the bion during startup to change the xmp?

pure current Dec 4, 2020, 4:46 PM

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why is the neo so much more expensive then?

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 4:46 PM

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3600c18 = 3200c16 when 3600c16 is an improvement

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@pure current again, looks

pure current Dec 4, 2020, 4:46 PM

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oh

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 4:46 PM

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@unborn plaza CPUs tells you true frequency

pure current Dec 4, 2020, 4:46 PM

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thanks

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 4:46 PM

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As in the actual clock frequency, not it's transfer rate

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Ohhh so i use hwinfo for the transfer rate?

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Ram rated at 3200MT/s, actually runs at 1600mhz because DDR stands for Double-Data-Rate

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:47 PM

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hollow thorn As in the actual clock frequency, not it's transfer rate

Wow i am learning so much from you, so my memory is running at the right speed right?

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PauseChamp

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Mhm

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Pog

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:48 PM

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hollow thorn Mhm

Ty again sir

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 4:48 PM

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:)

unborn plaza Dec 4, 2020, 4:48 PM

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peepoLove

compact pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Any word on when the new TridentZ Neo CL14 kits might be in stock anywhere

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Aren't those atrociously expensive ?

compact pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Probably

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232863

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was looking at those this morning, they look juicy

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3600 16-19-19-19
1.35v

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samsung bdie kits

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You can definitely squeeze some crazy speeds out of those with 1.5v

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Uhhhh

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You sure?

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@misty obsidian I'm 99% sure 16-19-19-39 means hynix djr

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16-16-16-36 is the b die bin

austere hemlock Dec 4, 2020, 5:36 PM

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I had a corsair one i164 and basically it kept bluescreening, and msi couldnt fix it, so im probly gonna built one, im going for something like a 3090, what cpu would be good for that?

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 5:43 PM

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ahhh sad

spare gyro Dec 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Yay it arrived.

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misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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shinyyyy

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that's some high end stuff o-o

spare gyro Dec 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Yeah to complete my 5900x/3090 build 😎

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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noice !

spare gyro Dec 4, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Well still need the psu cables to come but yeah lol

cobalt pendant Dec 4, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Looking for memory 64 gigs 2 * 32 that will run well on gigabyte aorus wifi pro

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 6:21 PM

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https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232969?Item=N82E16820232969

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@spare gyro That's pretty much the same kit but with the lame heat spreader, right ?

spare gyro Dec 4, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Yeah

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 6:25 PM

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That's some serious money lol but I'm thinking I can still sell my current bdie kit and get some money off

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How much do you think I can fetch for a 3200 cl14 2x8 kit ?

spare gyro Dec 4, 2020, 6:37 PM

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No clue

naive pendant Dec 4, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Anyone here got a Ryzen 5 3600X? What are your temps like? I just want to see how mine stack up and make sure there is nothing wrong with my setup. I have the 212 black edition mounted using MX4 thermal paste and idle around 32-34 Celsius. Gaming usually ranges from 50-65 depending how demanding the game is, I play Dayz, Uboat, Hell Let loose, Post Scriptum, etc. I ran a cinebench today and got some great scores but I noticed during the 10 minute test I was seeing 75 Celsius tempratures. Is that normal? high? Thanks for any help.

azure pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 7:30 PM

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yeah tahts fine

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75 under load is good

eager shore Dec 4, 2020, 7:31 PM

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yeah those are good temps

naive pendant Dec 4, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Awesome. Thanks for the info. I know they are rated for 95 before shutting down but I just wanted to be sure I didn't do something wrong

rigid condor Dec 4, 2020, 8:50 PM

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whats the difference between the ryzen 9 3900XT and the 3900X

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and are those zen 3

pliant cypress Dec 4, 2020, 8:53 PM

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zen 2

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https://premiumbuilds.com/cpus/ryzen-9-3900x-vs-3900xt/#:~:text=The hardware on the new,4.7 GHz from 4.6 GHz.&text=The 3900X was already the,pegging it at 4.7 GHz some benchmarks

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turbid nest Dec 4, 2020, 9:06 PM

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so 5900 ever gonna be instock in the next 3 months?

slate night Dec 4, 2020, 9:14 PM

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should have more stock beginning of 2021

bleak cedar Dec 4, 2020, 9:20 PM

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So I tried to look it up and couldn't find it, what's the difference between the B and H chipsets on intel MOBOs? I know Z is overclockable but what about those two?

fresh wren Dec 4, 2020, 9:25 PM

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@spare gyro we're brothers in RAM

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spare gyro Dec 4, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Nice I lm counting down till work ends to install it haha

fresh wren Dec 4, 2020, 9:28 PM

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All I have left is some cable management, gotta transplant GPU from current PC and use that until new gen cards come in.

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vivid pewter Dec 4, 2020, 9:47 PM

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My 5600x just shipped yeah

spare gyro Dec 4, 2020, 10:08 PM

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mmmm just installed my new kit

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misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 10:14 PM

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@spare gyro wasn't it supposed to be 15-16-16 ?

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what's CAS doing at 16 :p

spare gyro Dec 4, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Yeah its set to that in bios but Ryzen rounds it to an even number

misty obsidian Dec 4, 2020, 10:24 PM

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ahh, didn't know that

modest cove Dec 4, 2020, 11:02 PM

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So I need to build a pc for a friend who does rendering, right?

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And im thinking multi-gpu setup

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But I need a mobo with alot of cpu lanes

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And a cpu with it

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at a budget

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How are these Chinese x99 boards on aliexpress?

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Because I dont trust

indigo pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 11:04 PM

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do Renderers use multi-GPU setups if they aren't quadros?

modest cove Dec 4, 2020, 11:04 PM

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But some people say they're borderline alright

indigo pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 11:04 PM

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I'd probably still get something name brand

modest cove Dec 4, 2020, 11:04 PM

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And my friend wants to game a bit too

indigo pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 11:05 PM

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I suggest a Ryzen chip for your friend

modest cove Dec 4, 2020, 11:05 PM

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They don't have many cpu lanes

indigo pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Ryzen has better multi-threaded performance

modest cove Dec 4, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Remember multi-gpu

indigo pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 11:05 PM

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which in turn gives better rendering performance

modest cove Dec 4, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Oh

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Hmmmm

indigo pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 11:05 PM

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most softwares also take advantage of multiple cores

modest cove Dec 4, 2020, 11:06 PM

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3700x or 5600x?

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Maybe if I can convince him and make a good list, 5700x

indigo pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 11:06 PM

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5800x

modest cove Dec 4, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Yes

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My bad

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Okay

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Maybe Instead ill do a single high-end gpu

indigo pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 11:07 PM

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I'd look at benchmarks of the RX 6000 series and RTX 3000 series first

modest cove Dec 4, 2020, 11:07 PM

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And a ryzen system

indigo pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 11:07 PM

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both are solid for gaming but I'm unsure which one's better for rendering

modest cove Dec 4, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Rtx 3k probably

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Because CUDA Acceleration

indigo pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 11:08 PM

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yeah

fresh wren Dec 4, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Damn, I forgot about CUDA

indigo pulsar Dec 4, 2020, 11:09 PM

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we all do lol

undone kernel Dec 4, 2020, 11:09 PM

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i recently received two 2x8gb sets of crucial ballistix ram from newegg.. and noticed that the ram sticks in one only box "share" the serial number, as in the serial except for the last number follow each other (like XXXX11 and XXXX12.) Ram are supposed to be boxed together because they're tested together correct? In the other box, the serial reads like XXYXY3 and XYYFF9.. just totally different serials. Does this mean the ram sticks were switched from a return? (box actually does look like it's been opened before)

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I only ask because i have no way to check if there's anything wrong with the ram; I have no ddr4 motherboard/cpu.. and likely wont have the ability to until after the return window is closed since im waiting for a 5900

hollow thorn Dec 4, 2020, 11:42 PM

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@modest cove what software

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Something like blender will love stuffing it full of random GPUs

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@undone kernel the best course of action is I believe would be to contact Crucial support and look up the sticks, and see if the serial numbers match up with the model of sticks you bought.

steel prism Dec 5, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Any guess as to a realistic time I can buy Ryzen 5 5600X?

azure pulsar Dec 5, 2020, 12:44 AM

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in the coming months

undone kernel Dec 5, 2020, 1:10 AM

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hollow thorn <@582405212980117546> the best course of action is I believe would be to contact...

Yea, I just talked with Crucial support and they did say it does match with the part#.. so it 'should' work at the advertised speeds despite the difference in serial#. but still a little bummed it might affect overclock, if it wasn't swapped with a bad stick at least. hopefully i could manage to get a 5900x before january to see how oc'ing 4 sticks from essentially 3 different bins/batches works out

whole spade Dec 5, 2020, 1:17 AM

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(Also posted in build-chat) Hi all! I recently built a gaming PC for the first time! But I've been running into issues getting it to boot :(
Motherboard: MSI B550 - A Pro
Graphics Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 580 Gaming 8GB

I had to reset the BIOs by downloading a previous software for my motherboard on MSI's website onto a flash drive, then install that. Once it got to 100%, I lost all visibility on my monitor. I've reset it several times, took the battery out of my motherboard, etc. Does anyone have any clue what's happening?
DISCLAIMER: I'm not very educated w/ computers. I relied heavily on guides for my build, so I don't know much outside of that.

eager shore Dec 5, 2020, 1:18 AM

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wait wdym by took the battery out of my motherboard

undone kernel Dec 5, 2020, 1:20 AM

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bios may take a few minutes to update, u know the bios is still updating when the mobo light keeps blinking

whole spade Dec 5, 2020, 1:20 AM

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eager shore wait wdym by took the battery out of my motherboard

there's a circular battery in it labeled JBat or something lol

unkempt seal Dec 5, 2020, 1:20 AM

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most mobo have a samll batt to save info when turned off, so some require to remove it to clear save data

whole spade Dec 5, 2020, 1:28 AM

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undone kernel bios may take a few minutes to update, u know the bios is still updating when th...

I left it alone for about 15 minutes before resetting it, and nothing happened 😦

undone kernel Dec 5, 2020, 1:30 AM

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whole spade I left it alone for about 15 minutes before resetting it, and nothing happened �...

left it alone while the screen was off? did you see any motherboard bulb blink while u left it alone?

whole spade Dec 5, 2020, 1:31 AM

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undone kernel left it alone while the screen was off? did you see any motherboard bulb blink w...

Yes left it alone while the screen was off - and I didn't notice the mobo light blinking :/ I didn't know to look for that ugh 😦

undone kernel Dec 5, 2020, 1:33 AM

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yea try it again, but remove your graphics card; just your motherboard, cpu, and power supply. go through the steps again in bios to flash it.. you should see a blinking light somewhere on your motherboard. just leave it alone and it'll restart by itself when its finished

whole spade Dec 5, 2020, 1:39 AM

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undone kernel yea try it again, but remove your graphics card; just your motherboard, cpu, and...

I removed the graphics card, and now my monitor's HDMI cable is connected to the mobo, but still no display

undone kernel Dec 5, 2020, 2:06 AM

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its fine, when you start it can you get into bios? follow your bios flashback instructions for your motherboard. when it starts updating, it'll look like your pc is turned off.. but you'll have an indicator light flash in your motherboard letting it know it's on. at that point, when the bios is done updating it should restart itself without u pressing anything

modest cove Dec 5, 2020, 2:09 AM

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@hollow thorn it was an architecture rendering software of somekind

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I dont remember which exactly

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He said he used multiple

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One of which was Autodesk Revitt I think

whole spade Dec 5, 2020, 2:10 AM

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undone kernel its fine, when you start it can you get into bios? follow your bios flashback in...

No, I'm not able to get into bios - I'm not able to see anything on my monitor. I spam F11, but nothing shows.

undone kernel Dec 5, 2020, 2:12 AM

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has ur bios ever loaded before? or u always had a black screen

elder yacht Dec 5, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Was just wondering of T-Force Vulcan Z ddr 3200 is compatible with MSI 4350 Gaming Pro Carbon AC Wifi motherboard?

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I believe it is but It doesn't say on the manual. Partspicker says so though so I'm confused.

whole spade Dec 5, 2020, 2:27 AM

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undone kernel has ur bios ever loaded before? or u always had a black screen

It's loaded in the past, but it hasn't loaded after i did the flash bios thing

undone kernel Dec 5, 2020, 2:29 AM

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whole spade No, I'm not able to get into bios - I'm not able to see anything on my monitor. ...

hmmmm.. try using a usb 2.0 drive formatted to fat32 if you have one

whole spade Dec 5, 2020, 2:31 AM

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it is formatted to fat32 😦

undone kernel Dec 5, 2020, 2:31 AM

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but honestly if u got loaded up bios atleast before, but cant anymore.. im not sure what it is :3

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but is it 2.0? not the blue 3.0?

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flashback is weird, read people say they couldnt get flashback to work without a 2.0 drive; still doesn't explain why u cant load bios at all if it loaded before

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tho

whole spade Dec 5, 2020, 2:34 AM

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I also have a ticket open with MSI, and they told me to use this video https:// www. youtube.com/ watch?v=iTkXunUAriE to reset it?? I had no idea there was a button on my mobo

potent dew Dec 5, 2020, 2:35 AM

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So I'm moving my dad's computer to a new case w/ a new PSU and we're using the original motherboard for now which is an HP Basswood Mini-ATX, and we ran into a problem with the front panel connectors. Can't find any manual for this mobo and the one from mine doesn't help because it has about double the pins, does anyone know what which pin is for what or if it would be possible to find out what they are?

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undone kernel Dec 5, 2020, 2:35 AM

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lol, yea its right next to the usb flashback port

late pine Dec 5, 2020, 2:46 AM

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@potent dew this is the standard layout

whole spade Dec 5, 2020, 2:47 AM

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undone kernel lol, yea its right next to the usb flashback port

Do you think I can follow the instructions in the video while keeping the mobo in the case? I don't want to have to disconnect my cooling unit :/

undone kernel Dec 5, 2020, 2:49 AM

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whole spade Do you think I can follow the instructions in the video while keeping the mobo i...

yeah ur fine, u could keep everything connected.. just remember when u remove or plug something in your psu is unplugged

whole spade Dec 5, 2020, 2:49 AM

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THANK YOU!!

whole spade Dec 5, 2020, 3:05 AM

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undone kernel yeah ur fine, u could keep everything connected.. just remember when u remove or...

Okay - so it reset itself (YAY!). I connected my monitor via HDMI to my mobo, but still no display. Should I reconnect my GPU and connect my display to that?

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OH! My mobo doesn't have built in graphics

undone kernel Dec 5, 2020, 3:12 AM

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yea try it.. if u see blinking red red light and it still doesn't boot it may be a mobo issue

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red light may either be on the mobo or near where the usb flashback port is

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just remember to unplug your psu first to be safe

potent dew Dec 5, 2020, 3:17 AM

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late pine <@!363474138549059604> this is the standard layout

Thanks

whole spade Dec 5, 2020, 3:18 AM

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undone kernel just remember to unplug your psu first to be safe

bummer - still no display

tacit dagger Dec 5, 2020, 3:18 AM

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5900x with 6800xt or 5900x with 3080? mostly cad/modeling software and planning on video editing as well.
not much gaming tbh.

late pine Dec 5, 2020, 3:21 AM

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glad to help

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personally given how reliable drivers have been I would suggest nvidia for workstation use

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not to mention CUDA acceleration has a lot of software support in general

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in terms of cpu though amd is the way to go

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intel has no competition for AMD 12 core and 16 core parts

tacit quest Dec 5, 2020, 3:31 AM

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12 cores

copper portal Dec 5, 2020, 3:56 AM

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upgrading soon from 4790k to 10700k, can't wait to see if it will actually be better

tacit quest Dec 5, 2020, 3:59 AM

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4790k

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that exists?

copper portal Dec 5, 2020, 3:59 AM

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YES

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😛

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still clocks at 4.5ghz no overclock

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so I'm still skeptical about getting a newer cpu but slower clock..

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I get that it's newer and all with new tech but still

tacit quest Dec 5, 2020, 4:01 AM

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wat the

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I have an i5 10600k

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It's clocked at 4.5ghz

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bruh

plush mural Dec 5, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Just ordered a ryzen 3 3200g right before they went out of stock

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Building my first pc

copper portal Dec 5, 2020, 4:02 AM

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@plush mural Nice!! Wish you to get your stock soon

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@tacit quest yeah but still my 10yrs old cpu does the same clock speed

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which is why I find that depressing

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xD

plush mural Dec 5, 2020, 4:04 AM

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I ordered it and then I went back later and they were out of stock so hopefully I actually managed to snag one

copper portal Dec 5, 2020, 4:05 AM

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from where?

plush mural Dec 5, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Newegg

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Sold and shipped by them

copper portal Dec 5, 2020, 4:07 AM

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normally if you have the order passed and you payed, you should be good

fresh wren Dec 5, 2020, 4:22 AM

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copper portal still clocks at 4.5ghz no overclock

I specifically recall overclocking my 4790k to 4.5 from 4.0

copper portal Dec 5, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Maybe, I didn't overclock mine at all and it goes from 4.2 to 4.45

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Maybe it's because I have an h80i watercooling

gentle acorn Dec 5, 2020, 5:02 AM

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A 5600x is better than a 2700x right? Originally i was planning to switch to a 2700x but then someone told me the 5600x is better and I just wanted to make sure that’s right because the 2700x does have a higher core count but I heard the 5600x basically has 12 due to a BIOS setting

violet zealot Dec 5, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Well it's not basically 12, it's called SMT simultaneous multi threading; Intel has the same thing they call it Hyperthreading. The 2700X has it too, it's a 8 core 16 thread processor

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But the reason the 5600X is better is because it has much higher IPC, superior single core performance and better latency

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It's a much newer part so that's kind of to be expected

gentle acorn Dec 5, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Alright thanks

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I knew it was SMT but forgot what it was called lol

indigo pulsar Dec 5, 2020, 6:37 AM

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I believe the Ryzen 5 5600x also outperformed the Intel Core I9-10900k, and when it didn't outperform the 10900k it came really close when it came to gaming, for rendering the 10900k's cores still got utilized but the Ryzen 9 5900x did outperform it still. This second part isn't really as relevant but I thought I'd put it there anyways.

naive pendant Dec 5, 2020, 6:40 AM

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tacit dagger 5900x with 6800xt or 5900x with 3080? mostly cad/modeling software and planning ...

6800

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More VRAM

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if you were spending more for 6900xt vs 3090 3090 would be the pick

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i would look more into it though

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ask on reddit

bleak cedar Dec 5, 2020, 7:42 AM

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So I tried to look it up and couldn't find it, what's the difference between the B and H chipsets on intel MOBOs? I know Z is overclockable but what about those two?

azure pulsar Dec 5, 2020, 7:50 AM

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uhhh ive actually never heard of b

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thats a laptop cpu right?>

bleak cedar Dec 5, 2020, 8:11 AM

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I think B is the most common

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Like B460

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Then H470

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And there's Z490

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All I know is Z is overclockable

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But no idea what's the difference between B and H

bleak cedar Dec 5, 2020, 8:15 AM

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azure pulsar thats a laptop cpu right?>

It's not a laptop thing

azure pulsar Dec 5, 2020, 8:25 AM

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OH

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im so stupid

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i thought u were talking about cpus lol

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sry lol @bleak cedar

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1 sec

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apparently b is a midrange and h is the worst

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but im not sure

bleak cedar Dec 5, 2020, 10:22 AM

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Ah damn

fresh wren Dec 5, 2020, 12:38 PM

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😮

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naive pendant Dec 5, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Thats horrible

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thats DDR3 speeds

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default DDR4 is like 2666

hollow flower Dec 5, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Can someone please explain the difference between the two standard full PCI slots on a mobo and why one tends to have metal around it and the other only strips of metal at the junctions between the cutouts? Eg:

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wise phoenix Dec 5, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Yo guys I got a dumb question, rtx 3060 Ti says it supports PCIE gen 4, can I use b450 tomahawk with it? it says pci-e gen gen3 and gen 2

cursive epoch Dec 5, 2020, 2:52 PM

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yes

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It's backwards compatible

midnight pollen Dec 5, 2020, 2:54 PM

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@hollow flower the top one on boards is often metal reinforced so it is less likely to bend or something from a heavy graphics card. Difference between the 2 full pcie slots you can check manual, most cases the top slot has more bandwidth 16x vs 8x pcie

fresh wren Dec 5, 2020, 2:55 PM

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naive pendant Thats horrible

That's half frequency. Gotta double what CPU-Z reads. I'm running 4000MHz 15-16-16-36

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Ryzen rounds the 15 to an even number for some reason.

naive pendant Dec 5, 2020, 2:57 PM

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ah

pliant briar Dec 5, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Could anyone help me with some boot issues? MSi customer service is not available on weekends.

hollow flower Dec 5, 2020, 3:02 PM

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midnight pollen <@781758218577510400> the top one on boards is often metal reinforced so it is l...

Ok, thanks. So I will drop my gtx1080 to the lower one and put my new rtx3090 in the top one. I believe the board is a Z97 with i7 gen8 and I was looking at htt ps://www.g amersnexus. .net/guides/2488-pci-e-3-x8-vs-x16-performance-impact-on-gpus , which indicates there may not be much of a speed difference.

naive pendant Dec 5, 2020, 3:04 PM

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hollow flower Ok, thanks. So I will drop my gtx1080 to the lower one and put my new rtx3090 in...

Are you trying mine on the 1080?

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if not that 1080 is just gonna be a dead weight card in that slot just increasing your electric

hollow flower Dec 5, 2020, 3:05 PM

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naive pendant Are you trying mine on the 1080?

I might. I will probably be doing some compute at least though.

mighty narwhal Dec 5, 2020, 3:49 PM

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hey everyone

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i have a question

pearl zealot Dec 5, 2020, 3:50 PM

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...

mighty narwhal Dec 5, 2020, 3:50 PM

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can an i5-10400F support 2 x 8 gb ram powered at 3600 mhz??

pearl zealot Dec 5, 2020, 3:51 PM

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mighty narwhal Dec 5, 2020, 3:52 PM

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is that a no?

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because some people are telling me it can

pearl zealot Dec 5, 2020, 4:04 PM

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You can absolutely put ram faster than ddr4-2666 in there.

I believe the system will just run it slower, at the fastest speed the cpu allows

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Someone should verify this as I'm coming back into the game after a long time away

naive pendant Dec 5, 2020, 4:04 PM

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does the 3 3300x exist?

pearl zealot Dec 5, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Yes

naive pendant Dec 5, 2020, 4:05 PM

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where can I find ut

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it

pearl zealot Dec 5, 2020, 4:07 PM

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This is what I found first on google http://www.nextwarehouse.com/item/?3666953_g10e

thorn plover Dec 5, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Don't trust that website

pearl zealot Dec 5, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Yeah I haven't been trying to buy one so google around

naive pendant Dec 5, 2020, 4:35 PM

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cant find any in my country :/

toxic skiff Dec 5, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Wait so. How is it that my i7-8700K is better than almost every i9-9900/k/kf/t

pearl zealot Dec 5, 2020, 4:50 PM

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it's not?

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https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9900K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-8700K/4028vs3937

UserBenchmark: Intel Core i7-8700K vs i9-9900K

Based on 853,628 user benchmarks for the Intel Core i7-8700K and the Core i9-9900K, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 1,276 CPUs.

toxic skiff Dec 5, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Herp im looking at base settings

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The i7 base is 3.7. The i9s are base 3.1-3.6

west summit Dec 5, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Hey guys!
I'm new to this server. I had some questions and needed some suggestions
I'm currently running a Z370 XP SLI and I thought of upgrading my processor. I got the 9900k for 320 which was a steal so I couldn't resist the offer. The problem is that my motherboard's VRMs are a little weak. I'm planning on running my processor at stock and not overclock at all. Will I be able to run the 9900k on my board and perhaps even undervolt it a bit to give the mobo some ease or do I definitely need to get a better Z390 motherboard for it?

late pine Dec 5, 2020, 6:30 PM

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9900k consumes a lot of power, you would really be pushing it

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if you have a lot of airflow you could try to run it and see if it's power limited

pearl zealot Dec 5, 2020, 6:31 PM

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yeah base clock speed alone doesn't make a cpu better or worse

hollow thorn Dec 5, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Let's see

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It's got 4 phases for cpu

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4C10N high side, 4C06N low side

manic forge Dec 5, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Hi Everyone, I have issue with a recently bought ASUS z490 TUF Gaming Wifi.

I have 2x16 DDR4 Ripjaws V. I can't book with both installed, it seems it only supports 1x16.

elder yacht Dec 5, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Can anyone help me with a problem? I just installed new ram and reinstalled.the cpu cooler fans but now I got a cpu red light on my mother board and the led oof my power button doesn't show even though it works.

hollow thorn Dec 5, 2020, 6:38 PM

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@manic forge So, both sticks work if it's the only stick in the system?

manic forge Dec 5, 2020, 6:39 PM

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yes

elder yacht Dec 5, 2020, 6:39 PM

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It won't display my monitor either so I can't even reach bios

hollow thorn Dec 5, 2020, 6:39 PM

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@manic forge So they don't work when you place them in slot 2 and 4?

manic forge Dec 5, 2020, 6:40 PM

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that's correct

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tried 1 and 3

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2 and 4

hollow thorn Dec 5, 2020, 6:42 PM

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@manic forge Try reseating CPU

manic forge Dec 5, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Not sure how to do that ?

hollow thorn Dec 5, 2020, 6:43 PM

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As in, take it out and put it back in.

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helps if the CPU pins have bad contact, just in case one of the lanes aren't doing well because of CPU contact.

manic forge Dec 5, 2020, 6:46 PM

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I will try this, thanks

naive pendant Dec 5, 2020, 7:09 PM

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what is a good mobo for the 2700X CPU?

main pulsar Dec 5, 2020, 8:47 PM

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what is that one zen 2 desktop cpu with the igpu thats OEM only

violet zealot Dec 5, 2020, 8:48 PM

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There's a few I think, 4600G, 4700G, 4750G

main pulsar Dec 5, 2020, 8:51 PM

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thx

modest cove Dec 5, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Sad theyre oem only

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When are they gonna make zen 2 based apus for the general market?

feral escarp Dec 5, 2020, 9:27 PM

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If I have a amd cpu and i buy trident z rgb does it have to be the amd version?

fair ravine Dec 5, 2020, 9:51 PM

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can someone help join general 1 and help me wiht something

gritty meadow Dec 5, 2020, 9:58 PM

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@fair ravine please ask in the channel that is relevant for your question instead :)

winged rapids Dec 5, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Best motherboard for around $200 for ryzen 7 3700x???

pale mist Dec 5, 2020, 10:20 PM

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I like the msi bpg gameing edge b550 @winged rapids

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easy upgradeability for zen 3 and great cooling on theVRMs

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mpg*

naive pendant Dec 5, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Which b550 mobo's are compatible out the box with the 5600x? Without needing a bios update

gritty meadow Dec 5, 2020, 10:30 PM

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technically all of them

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and also, technically, none of them

naive pendant Dec 5, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Hmmmm

azure pulsar Dec 5, 2020, 10:36 PM

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@naive pendant i dont think any are, but most good motherboards will have flashback so you can just plug in a usb with the bios update and update it with only the psu and mobo

violet zealot Dec 5, 2020, 11:19 PM

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naive pendant Which b550 mobo's are compatible out the box with the 5600x? Without needing a b...

So it's a toss up, when you buy a motherboard either it's from a shipment that just came from the factory with an updated bios or it's old stock and requires an update

azure pulsar Dec 5, 2020, 11:19 PM

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yea

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either way can't hurt

violet zealot Dec 5, 2020, 11:20 PM

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There's no way to tell at least not online, I'm pretty sure they put a sticker on the box or something that tells you it has an up to date bios

azure pulsar Dec 5, 2020, 11:20 PM

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if you decide to try without updating first and it doesn't post, then you do the update

violet zealot Dec 5, 2020, 11:20 PM

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At least that's what they have done before

azure pulsar Dec 5, 2020, 11:20 PM

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you can also just update before even trying to post

river canyon Dec 6, 2020, 1:28 AM

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ryzen 5 3600 goes for around 333 and the ryzen 7 3700x goes for 329

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should i jus get the ryzen 7 even thought its not that much better now or wait for ryzen 5 price to go down which would be a couple months

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i already have all the other parts except gpu

violet zealot Dec 6, 2020, 1:31 AM

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The 3600's MSRP is 199, 333 is a heavily inflated price

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And we don't know when the price will come down, it's whenever they get restocked. It's old product so there must be loads more than Zen 3 chips

heady root Dec 6, 2020, 1:33 AM

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it's pretty easy to get one at 200 anyway

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best buy has had consistent restocks at 200 recently

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Yeah please dont pay more than 200 for a 3600

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I got lucky and snagged a 3600x for 190. 3700x is a solid cpu but between the 3600 and 3700x for gaming you wont see a difference in gaming

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The extra cores and threads would be better for streaming, editing, etc

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 2:23 AM

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you have a typo i think @naive pendant ?

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"3700x is a solid cpu but between the 3600 and 3700x"

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Yeah what im saying is between the both of them you wont see a difference

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Save the $100 and put it towards a better gpu

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 2:26 AM

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please read your sentence again :)

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unless your structure is just a bit odd

gentle acorn Dec 6, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Also how good is the 5600x for streaming?

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 2:39 AM

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5600x go hard

gentle acorn Dec 6, 2020, 2:39 AM

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I do it sometimes but not that often

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Alright

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Is that hard as in good or bad? Lol I’ve had it used for either

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 2:40 AM

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good

gentle acorn Dec 6, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Alright

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 2:40 AM

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its more geared towards single core performance i believe, but it will still be very good

gentle acorn Dec 6, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Alright

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I was wanting to upgrade to it by the end of next year but according to my dad by working with him I could get it within the next few weeks

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 2:47 AM

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damn

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@gentle acorn all i encourage you to do is not give into scalping prices

gentle acorn Dec 6, 2020, 2:48 AM

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What does that mean again?

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 2:48 AM

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paying above msrp (manufacturer standard retail price)

gentle acorn Dec 6, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Oh

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 2:48 AM

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300 is standard price

gentle acorn Dec 6, 2020, 2:48 AM

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I plan to buy from Microcenter because I plan to have them swap the motherboard and put that in for me

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 2:48 AM

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ah

gentle acorn Dec 6, 2020, 2:49 AM

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They have it selling for that much

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But atm it’s out of stock though

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 2:49 AM

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yep lol

gentle acorn Dec 6, 2020, 2:50 AM

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I was originally going to get a 2700x but then someone in another discord pushed me towards the 5600x because of its SMT as the main reason I wanted the 2700x was because it was a 8-core lol

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And it’s only $20 more

violet zealot Dec 6, 2020, 2:56 AM

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They both have SMT

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But the 5600X is newer and way faster at single core performance and latency, between the two the choice is obvious: the 5600X

gentle acorn Dec 6, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Alright

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Well that’s what I’m going for lol

pearl zealot Dec 6, 2020, 4:09 AM

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pro tip: you can't use bios flashback with a drive over 32 gig. because it cant be turned into FAT32, and even if you partition it, it fails with any more partitions than one

gentle acorn Dec 6, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Well I won’t have to worry about that as I’m having Microcenter swap out the motherboard and CPU for me so I do t break it like I did last time

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Dont*

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 5:28 AM

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2700x should of never been an option

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10400f is better than both 2700x and 3600

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10600k for like 260$ would be best

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when you approach stuff like 5600x if you dont want to wait 10700k is good choice at 330$ and if you want to overclock its intel

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so like

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 5:29 AM

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intel be like hi yes pay more money to overclock

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 5:29 AM

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10th gen wasn't actually a scam

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thats the thing

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this gen only 900k is bad

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Just the socket change every 2 minutes is

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ugh

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 5:30 AM

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lga4200

raw cipher Dec 6, 2020, 5:45 AM

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I have the asrock b450 pro4 and it says it’s ryzen 3000 ready. Does that mean i have to update the bios for a 3600x?

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 5:45 AM

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raw cipher I have the asrock b450 pro4 and it says it’s ryzen 3000 ready. Does that mean i ...

No

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if it says it ready for (insert series) then you dont need to update for that series or lower

raw cipher Dec 6, 2020, 5:46 AM

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ok great thank you mando

gentle acorn Dec 6, 2020, 6:32 AM

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2700x was an option because I started looking into possible upgrades like half a year ago and I was wanting to switch to AMD as they are doing better than Intel in gaming now which is mostly what I use my PC for and I plan to start streaming more

feral escarp Dec 6, 2020, 6:39 AM

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If I have a amd cpu and i buy trident z rgb does it have to be the amd version?

ruby laurel Dec 6, 2020, 6:40 AM

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no

feral escarp Dec 6, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Thanks

gentle acorn Dec 6, 2020, 6:41 AM

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I’m noticing lots more Zero Two here lately

last nacelle Dec 6, 2020, 7:00 AM

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Can i send someone a pic of a mobo and can you identify what kind it is

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 7:04 AM

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i highly doubt it

woeful rampart Dec 6, 2020, 7:04 AM

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download CPU-Z

woeful rampart Dec 6, 2020, 7:04 AM

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last nacelle Can i send someone a pic of a mobo and can you identify what kind it is

https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

CPU-Z | Softwares | CPUID

CPU-Z is a freeware that gathers information on some of the main devices of your system :

			Processor name and number, codename, process, package, cache levels.
			Mainboard and chipset.
			Memory type, size, timings, and module specifications (SPD).
			Real time measurement of each core's internal frequency, memory frequency.
		
		T...

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📎 Check-Motherboard-with-CPU-Z.jpg

last nacelle Dec 6, 2020, 7:05 AM

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@woeful rampart i dont have the mobo. My friend asked if i could tell him what kind this is cus hes curious. But i didnt know

woeful rampart Dec 6, 2020, 7:06 AM

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he would need to look closely for a long code and type it into google

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if theres not an obvious name

last nacelle Dec 6, 2020, 7:07 AM

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There isnt a name, just a picture. So im not sure

woeful rampart Dec 6, 2020, 7:07 AM

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gotta find the code then, it should have one unless it was on a sticker that came off

last nacelle Dec 6, 2020, 7:07 AM

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All i see is asus

woeful rampart Dec 6, 2020, 7:08 AM

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its gonna be tiny

last nacelle Dec 6, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Nvm just found it. Thank you

woeful rampart Dec 6, 2020, 7:09 AM

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np

fresh river Dec 6, 2020, 9:10 AM

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What does tbis mean

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