#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 155

normal jewel Nov 25, 2020, 11:39 AM

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desert sundial Nov 25, 2020, 11:40 AM

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normal jewel Nov 25, 2020, 11:41 AM

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whenever there is a hit he drops the appropriate link in chat

desert sundial Nov 25, 2020, 11:42 AM

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thx for the share! time for sleep now tho

south harbor Nov 25, 2020, 12:02 PM

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Which is better the b550m ds3h or b450 pro 4?

fickle flax Nov 25, 2020, 12:17 PM

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south harbor Which is better the b550m ds3h or b450 pro 4?

the b550 is more recent and a bit better than b450 pro 4 but you should get an asrock b550 instead of the ds3h

south harbor Nov 25, 2020, 12:18 PM

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Which one then?

fickle flax Nov 25, 2020, 12:18 PM

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matx?

south harbor Nov 25, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Or atx it doesn’t

fickle flax Nov 25, 2020, 12:19 PM

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b550 steel legend or the b550 pro 4

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the steel legend comes in atx or matx

south harbor Nov 25, 2020, 12:19 PM

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What’s the price for the steel legend

timber trout Nov 25, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Good morning. Am I correct in my research that in general Intel processors have a lower TDP at idle than “equivalent” AMD processors?

fickle flax Nov 25, 2020, 12:20 PM

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the b550 pro 4 is 90 on newegg while the b550m steel legend is 130

south harbor Nov 25, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Hmm i think I’ll go with the pro 4

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It costs less and fits my budget more

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Thank you for your help

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And it matches the brand of my gpu

patent jewel Nov 25, 2020, 1:08 PM

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I think that if I don't see a 5600x in stock by December 20th or like December 25th then I am just going to order a 3700x because the difference is not that noticeable. Thoughts?

modest ice Nov 25, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Can't see any partner cardsa

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this is frustrating

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TAKE MY MONEY NEWEGG

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w/e man

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They'll probably appear in 15 minutes showing up as sold out

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Like they did last time

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I wonder if they think I'm a bot

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Oh there's 2 now

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Out of stock of course

vivid pewter Nov 25, 2020, 2:36 PM

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b550 aorus pro ac or b550 aorus elite ax?

boreal tundra Nov 25, 2020, 2:44 PM

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I think that if I don't see a 5600x in stock by December 20th or like December 25th then I am just going to order a 3700x because the difference is not that noticeable. Thoughts?
@patent jewel there’s actually 220 i stock in a website called Ddtech, i bought 2 of them but it is only for Mexico i think

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Procesador AMD Ryzen 5 5600X / 6 Core / 12 Thread / 3.7GHz / 4.6GHz...

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hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 2:47 PM

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yea a lot of the more regional stores have them

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@patent jewel Well, the difference for gaming is quite noticable, closer to the 20% mark

patent jewel Nov 25, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Yeah I get that I just want to build in January to know if my mobo is dead or not which is my problem

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 2:49 PM

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you could get like a 3100/3600 placeholder if you want

patent jewel Nov 25, 2020, 2:50 PM

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If the 3600 is ever at a good price

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 2:52 PM

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lel

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3100 price is being weird too

patent jewel Nov 25, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Yeah

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I also don't want to see it and it is on a back order past January then I can no longer return my mobo if it is damaged

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 2:56 PM

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ofc

patent jewel Nov 25, 2020, 2:56 PM

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I just need my cpu and then I can pop in my brothers gpu to see if everything works

west iris Nov 25, 2020, 2:57 PM

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5800X on Amazon - check twitter user @Wario64

fickle flax Nov 25, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Amazon prices are skyrocketing on the 3600

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I saw one go for 250-260

green terrace Nov 25, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Microcenter is your friend

vivid pewter Nov 25, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Then my friend is so far away

green terrace Nov 25, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Long distance friendship

patent jewel Nov 25, 2020, 3:05 PM

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6 hour friendship

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So the best idea is to try and get the 5600x but if I can't just get a placeholder or should I get the 3700x

green terrace Nov 25, 2020, 3:21 PM

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I would return your motherboard

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Wait until you have your parts at the same time

patent jewel Nov 25, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Ok i will think about that

neat estuary Nov 25, 2020, 3:40 PM

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@hollow thorn I bought a ToMaHaWk 😎

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 3:42 PM

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as long as it's not b450 it's fine

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X570 tomahawk is good, B550 tomahawk decent, Z490 tomahawk decently bad afaik

green terrace Nov 25, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Quite disappointed in ram sales this week

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G.skill has barely dropped

neat estuary Nov 25, 2020, 3:44 PM

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The b550 was for sale at 140$ but sold out within a hour at every site.

spring condor Nov 25, 2020, 3:47 PM

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What's the difference between the B550 and X570? Building a new computer, and can't decide which might be better for my build...

green terrace Nov 25, 2020, 3:48 PM

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X570 is expensive and overkill and b550 isn’t

spring condor Nov 25, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Is one better than the other when it comes to overclocking?

green terrace Nov 25, 2020, 3:49 PM

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X570 is a higher tier chipset

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Ryzen doesnt take as much power to overclock as intel so I can’t comment there

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It also doesn’t overclock much (not sure about zen 3)

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 3:50 PM

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all depends on price

spring condor Nov 25, 2020, 3:51 PM

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So performance wise the B550 and X570's are basically the same?

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 3:51 PM

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all depends on the specific board

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chipset are the exact same for pure perofrmance

violet zealot Nov 25, 2020, 3:54 PM

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The only difference really is expanded PCIE gen 4 support on X570. For the average person, the top m.2 slot and PCIE slot for the graphics card being Gen 4 is enough, that's what B550 offers.

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 3:55 PM

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mhm, performance there is 0 difference between the chipsets

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between boards there's differences

violet zealot Nov 25, 2020, 3:56 PM

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At that point it comes down to feature set between boards

spring condor Nov 25, 2020, 3:56 PM

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So with the x570, the second M.2 has a few more lanes available for better speeds? Currently only have one M.2, but was thinking of expanding to a second

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 3:56 PM

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no

violet zealot Nov 25, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Well not quite

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 3:56 PM

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PCIe 4.0 instead of 3.0

violet zealot Nov 25, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Yeah its really only if you need multiple Gen 4 NVMEs

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Which honestly, most people don't need that level of speed; especially for the price/performance

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 3:57 PM

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gen 3 ssd will still run at the same speeds in the second slot

spring condor Nov 25, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Got it, thanks!

silver pewter Nov 25, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Do any of you have a preference on your thermal paste? It's one of those things I don't understand the difference on.

topaz atlas Nov 25, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Some people use thermal grizzly

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 4:48 PM

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@silver pewter it's a "good paste is good enough" thing

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You don't need to chase the best

vale yarrow Nov 25, 2020, 4:49 PM

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will a ryzen 5 3600 bottleneck a 3080

fallen lynx Nov 25, 2020, 4:50 PM

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no

topaz atlas Nov 25, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Should do it fine

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Anything lower would probably be a bottleneck however

vale yarrow Nov 25, 2020, 4:52 PM

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alright

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i read something about it bottlenecking in cpu intensive applications. What would that mean?

fallen lynx Nov 25, 2020, 4:54 PM

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its a stupid term and people use it like it causes some kind of damage

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or harm

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all it means is your CPU/GPU is sufficiently overpowered that the other one can't fully keep up/feed it with data so one of them will run somewhat less than to its full potential

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its not BAD to be mismatched in this way, but it is also not a wise use of your money if you are grossly mismatched

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any MODERN CPU/GPU pair is fine

wheat cliff Nov 25, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Hey! I'm in the process of updating my pc and was wondering how important version number is when it comes to compatibility with a mobo.

I'm planning to pick up the MSI MEG X570 UNIFY and was looking at some Corsair Vengeance sticks as RAM but on the MSI site it says I need a specific version number which I can't find listed on any site.

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CMK64GX4M2D3600C18 ver 5.49 is the ram I was looking at if it helps

fallen lynx Nov 25, 2020, 5:01 PM

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ive never heard of RAM having version numbers like that

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do you have a link to what you are looking at

wheat cliff Nov 25, 2020, 5:01 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236592

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The top favorable comment mentions them as well

fallen lynx Nov 25, 2020, 5:02 PM

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i mean where it says you need a specific version number

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not the product listing

wheat cliff Nov 25, 2020, 5:03 PM

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I can't send the link apparently since it's not form newegg

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let me screenshot

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nvm I can't upload an image, but it's on MSI's site

fallen lynx Nov 25, 2020, 5:05 PM

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unless the model number (CMK64GX4M2D3600C18) gives you an indication of the version number i don't think there's any way you can know what they will send

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corsair vengeance LPX is all over the place in terms of what the put in it

wheat cliff Nov 25, 2020, 5:06 PM

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ahhh alright

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thank you

devout needle Nov 25, 2020, 5:16 PM

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just a quick question if a cpu is sold out till december 7, that means it won't be on sale for black friday right?

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The ryzen 5 3600 sold by amazon will restock on december 7, but another company is selling it for 50$ more on amazon

green terrace Nov 25, 2020, 5:22 PM

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vale yarrow will a ryzen 5 3600 bottleneck a 3080

Performance limitations get pretty complicated. At high resolutions, the gpu is doing the bulk of the work to draw frames. The cpu also helps draw frames but does other tasks inside the game. In traditional terms they call a bottleneck a “10%” loss in performance, but in reality your pc will always be bottlenecked by something. And it’s not always the same component, even if you’re playing the same game.

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That’s a long winded answer to say 3600 should be fine, however, I would spend more if you’re spending 700+ on a gpu

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If you’re reducing your cpu bottleneck from 20% of the time to 5%, you will see a difference in performance

slim night Nov 25, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Is it better to have 3200 cl16 ram or 3600 cl18 (same price)

neat estuary Nov 25, 2020, 6:30 PM

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3600

humble igloo Nov 25, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Hello, New Egg Customer Service sent me here. My question is if you could recommend a higher performing cpu for my 6 year old motherboard. I am not ready to start a new build and have upgraded when I can. My concern is buying the wrong cpu or overpaying for not much improvement as it appears sockets have moved on. I have ASUS Z87-PRO (V EDITION) LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard; Intel Core i5-4690K Devil's Canyon Quad-Core 3.5 GHz LGA 1150 88W BX80646I54690K Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics ...

vast granite Nov 25, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Glad i returned my 2x8 gb of crucial ballistix to b&h and picked up 4x8 from newegg before they sold out

vale yarrow Nov 25, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Thank you @green terrace

topaz atlas Nov 25, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Pick the memory with the lower cas latency wth

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Lmfao

slim night Nov 25, 2020, 6:39 PM

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I Googled it and the article i read said to typically pick the higher clock speeds vs lower cas latency, as they both have the same uh, nanosecond delay or somethin

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Now the real question is how fast of ram does my computer support

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How do I check tjat

green terrace Nov 25, 2020, 6:48 PM

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@humble igloo How much are you willing to spend, and when do you need it?

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You will definitely see improvements from modern cpus, but it really depends what you use your computer for.

humble igloo Nov 25, 2020, 6:56 PM

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2 main reasons for our computer: running microsoft flight sim 2020, and high quality photo editing. my wife's photos take up a ton of memory when editing. I've upgraded to 4 x 8g ram cards.

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not to mention adding about 4T of storage already

tough wyvern Nov 25, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Is there a definitive way to tell what a sensor being reported by your motherboard really is and if it's value actually means anything?

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My motherboard and open hardware monitor are telling me one thing, and hwInfo is telling me that thing, plus another thing, and I'm not sure if that other thing is something I might actually need to address or if it's something that can be safely ignored.

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When I consult our overlord and savior google I only get tangentially related answers.

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Namely, my bios/ohw are telling me my PCH is running at X temperature, and hwinfo is telling me it's running at X temperature, but also Y, and Y is significantly higher.

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It'd be just, super helpful to know what that sensor actually is according to my motherboard but I can't find that information anywhere.

neat estuary Nov 25, 2020, 7:19 PM

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@tough wyvern hwinfo64 sensor are really hard to track down. In fact the Ryzen control sensor isn’t even a hard contact. It’s a number put together from several different sensor and then smooth out so the fan curve stays smooth

tough wyvern Nov 25, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Yeah, it's not super helpful. It has a listing for "AMD X570" and then under there is a temp listed as Chipset, which is running much hotter then the PCH reading. But that PCH reading is the one that everything else reports; I don't see that chipset reading anywhere else at all, so I can't cross reference it with anything else to see if in error, or if I should just ignore it.

patent jewel Nov 25, 2020, 7:48 PM

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My 3 options that I have so far are these: Number 1: I wait until December 25th and see if I can get a 5600x if I can't then I get a 3700x Number 2: I wait until December 25th and see if I can get a 5600x if I can't then I get a placeholder cpu such as a 3100 or 3300x if at a good price or even a 3600 if it gets to msrp and Number 3: I return my motherboard and wait until I have enough money for my gpu, cpu, and motherboard and buy them at the same time.

gaunt hill Nov 25, 2020, 7:51 PM

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So i have about $140 for a cpu upgrade but i dont know what to get the ryzen 3 3300x or the ryzen 5 2600 I will mainly being playing light games and some light streaming.

green terrace Nov 25, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Bad time to buy a ryzen cpu imo

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Unless you have enough to buy zen 3

patent jewel Nov 25, 2020, 8:09 PM

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there is a couple reasons that you might buy intel 1: Now both socket types are going to change 2: they are actually available 3: Yes they are somewhat more expensive than amd cpus 4: Right now it is better to buy intel for a budget system such as a 10100 or a 10400

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just a few some could be wrong but to my knowledge these are some reasons

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plus the fact that there are not that many problems and for 5000 problems have and still can arise

green terrace Nov 25, 2020, 8:12 PM

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9900k has been super cheap, but it is on a dead platform

naive pendant Nov 25, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Intel CPUs (besides i9) tend to be more stable too

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especially with their multicore technologies lasting for years

neon sigil Nov 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/MSI-X570-Gaming-Motherboard-Wi-Fi/dp/B07T2FWCYG/ref=sr_1_2?tag=slickdeals&ascsubtag=1792be582f5f11ebbd56d2652e8437d70INT&dchild=1&keywords=msi gaming edge wifi&qid=1606310034&sr=8-2

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hows this motherboard?

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pardon amazon link but honey says its 50 dollars off?

patent jewel Nov 25, 2020, 8:51 PM

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It is not that good of a motherboard

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All of the x570 lineup from msi is not good except the expensive ones and the Tomahawk

neon sigil Nov 25, 2020, 8:52 PM

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o ok

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i was going to get the asus x570tuf wifi

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or the gigabyte ekute x570 wifi

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which one of those is better?

prisma nymph Nov 25, 2020, 8:53 PM

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do you need the x570 board?

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or can you just settle with a b550

neon sigil Nov 25, 2020, 8:53 PM

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i want x570

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i know technically id do fine with b550 but they're so similar in price

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like b550 aorus elite is 20 dollars less

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id rather just go with a x570 then

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i have the budget for it

prisma nymph Nov 25, 2020, 8:55 PM

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ok den

hushed aurora Nov 25, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Hi! i have been noticing while either playing games for video editing my cpu will be anywhere from 3 percent to 60 percent usage while my gpu goes from 0 to 14. Does that mean my gpu is not good enough or vice versa?

sour coyote Nov 25, 2020, 9:14 PM

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depends of what games you play. Some are more cpu intensive

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if you play in 1080p 60fps it might be just a soft task for your gpu

vivid pewter Nov 25, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Having a tough time choosing between three motherboards. Would be helpful to get more opinions. The b550 aorus elite ax, b550 aorus pro ac, or the b550 msi gaming edge wifi.

brisk smelt Nov 25, 2020, 10:13 PM

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depends do you need the wifi and overclockign features

neat estuary Nov 25, 2020, 10:13 PM

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ax is wifi 6

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ac is wifi 5. look up the diffrence and see if it matters to u

sour coyote Nov 25, 2020, 11:06 PM

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go with the msi

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Why msi

hollow bluff Nov 25, 2020, 11:27 PM

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whats the intel cpu equivalent of an AMD Ryzen 7 3750H

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its for a laptop

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Laptop 3750h wasn't particularly good

hollow bluff Nov 25, 2020, 11:28 PM

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damn

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any under 1k nice laptops with like

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at least an intel i7 like

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maybe a 10th gen

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with a nice gpu?

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 11:29 PM

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@hollow bluff Asus Tuf A15, 4800h+1660ti for ~980$ on Newegg last I checked

hollow bluff Nov 25, 2020, 11:31 PM

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okay

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how much fps do u think that gives like

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in general

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 11:31 PM

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What game

hollow bluff Nov 25, 2020, 11:31 PM

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uh

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siege?

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or cod ig

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like a decently active fps

prisma nymph Nov 25, 2020, 11:31 PM

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siege do be pog tho

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Should do 144+fps high pretty easily

hollow bluff Nov 25, 2020, 11:31 PM

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ah nice

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thats more than enough

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ty

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Siege is fairly lightweight and 1660ti is good

prisma nymph Nov 25, 2020, 11:32 PM

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yea, i play siege on high with a 1060

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80-ish frames

hollow bluff Nov 25, 2020, 11:32 PM

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ah thats nice af then

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 11:32 PM

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I do siege on modified high settings, 240fps with a 2070

hollow bluff Nov 25, 2020, 11:33 PM

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yeah this isnt even for me

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i have an rtx 2060

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this is just for a friend

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and idk that much on laptops

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appreciate the help

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 11:34 PM

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You're welcome

raw abyss Nov 25, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Is the 3080 ti worth waiting for?

hollow bluff Nov 25, 2020, 11:38 PM

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@hollow thorn sorry to bother again

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but i also found this

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https://www.newegg.com/stealth-black-asus-tuf-gaming-fx505dv-wb74-gaming-entertainment/p/N82E16834235588?Item=N82E16834235588

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and its cheaper

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isnt the 2060 better?

hollow thorn Nov 25, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Thing is, 3750h was pretty bad so I'd get the A15

hollow bluff Nov 25, 2020, 11:42 PM

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ah

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but like

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wouldnt i get less fps and such

gentle river Nov 25, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Does the B550 DS3H have internal usb headers?

vivid pewter Nov 26, 2020, 12:00 AM

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What makes the b550 aorus elite ax better than the b550 msi gaming edge wifi?

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@hollow thorn

spring condor Nov 26, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Do the non-wifi motherboard still have Bluetooth capability? I never use wifi, but I do use the latter...

slim night Nov 26, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Typically yes but in the probably very rare case it doesn't you can always get a Bluetooth dongle or attachement

patent jewel Nov 26, 2020, 12:55 AM

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What do you guys think about instead I wait until like January 10th and see if I can get it if I can't then I return my motherboard then I can buy my gpu, cpu and mobo at the same time. I think this might be better than just out right returning without still trying

hollow thorn Nov 26, 2020, 12:56 AM

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@slim night afaik only wifi board get bluetooth

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 12:56 AM

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mainly because bluetooth is bundled with the wifi chip from the manufacturer (of the wifi chip side)

hollow thorn Nov 26, 2020, 12:59 AM

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@vivid pewter elite ax top gaming edge wifi bottom, I prefer it better

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raw anchor Nov 26, 2020, 1:56 AM

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I picked up a msi mpg x570 gaming edge wifi to pair with my ryzen 7 5800x, are these two compatible?

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 1:57 AM

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yes

fickle flax Nov 26, 2020, 2:06 AM

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raw anchor I picked up a msi mpg x570 gaming edge wifi to pair with my ryzen 7 5800x, are t...

Yes

nimble olive Nov 26, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Someone want to explain to a dummy how to update a bios

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I reset the cmos and now Im stuck

still juniper Nov 26, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Uh, does anyone know why the ryzen 5 3600 went up so high in price? Wasnt the point of it being so good was that it was the best bang for your buck?

azure ravine Nov 26, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Looking for a bit of advice - picked up ASRock B550 Pro4 and when applying to the pcpartpicker it gave me this warning:
The ASRock B550 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the Cooler Master MWE Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply does not. This connector is used to supply additional 12V current to the motherboard. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands such as extreme overclocking or large video card current draws may require it.
can anyone suggest a proper powersupply? My plan is to pair with 5600x eventually. I don't plan to over aggressively OC (well not at least right away).

vivid pewter Nov 26, 2020, 2:23 AM

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@hollow thorn tbh I do not know what I am looking at

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I have only seen that the vrm on the gaming edge is better based on hardware unboxed video

patent jewel Nov 26, 2020, 2:30 AM

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@azure ravine the extra 4 pin is for some serious overclocking you won't need it for the 5600x the 8 pin itself can carry 300w iirc and the 5600x will get no where close to that

azure ravine Nov 26, 2020, 2:30 AM

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@patent jewel awesome thanks!

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no concerns about pairs with say ~ 6800 or GTX3070?

patent jewel Nov 26, 2020, 2:32 AM

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no both of those will be a great pair with the 5600x

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really it is just whatever one you can get

azure ravine Nov 26, 2020, 2:33 AM

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lol .. now isn't that the truth. I might have a very heavy paper weight until stock improves

patent jewel Nov 26, 2020, 2:33 AM

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yep realistically that is what will happen just try to find the one you want but if you see the other one then get it

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 2:47 AM

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I had a neck beard af idea
If i got this motherboard https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X9DRi-LN4F_.cfm

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Could i run it with only one CPU? and then later throw another in it

pastel monolith Nov 26, 2020, 3:33 AM

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@rigid sluice I'm actually pretty sure you could I think most of the peripherals use the top socket cpu only

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 3:34 AM

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yes, you can run it in 1 cpu mode

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there is chipset measures for what you mentioned @pastel monolith

pastel monolith Nov 26, 2020, 3:35 AM

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that would be a fun project pc

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Basically my plan is to get a https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/76161/intel-xeon-processor-e5-2687w-v2-25m-cache-3-40-ghz.html

Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-2687W v2 (25M Cache, 3.40 GHz) Product Sp...

Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-2687W v2 (25M Cache, 3.40 GHz) quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.

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and make a ill call it a Stop gap pc
not good and pretty janky

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just a termpoary measure

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But then i also wanted to be able to go duel socket for expansion

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so i went
I could buy this.. single socket motherboard for 100$... or i could buy this duel socket motherboard for 150$ and just throw another CPU in it when ever i like instead of rebuilding and swapping the motherboard

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 3:40 AM

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the question that never really got answered the other day

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what exactly are you going to be using it for?

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 3:41 AM

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me?

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 3:41 AM

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yes

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 3:41 AM

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I want to do creative things like blender
lmao but also some gaming

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and also i just loveeee having a lot of threads

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 3:42 AM

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you do you, just remember that memory is going to be a pain to deal with

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 3:43 AM

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what do you mean by memory will be a pain?

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 3:45 AM

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quad channel ddr 3 is going to be fun to source for you

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 3:45 AM

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already found https://www.ebay.com/itm/154075411883?ul_noapp=true

eBay

16GB (4 X 4GB) DDR3 1333 Memory for Lenovo ThinkStation C30 D30 S30

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 16GB (4 X 4GB) DDR3 1333 Memory for Lenovo ThinkStation C30 D30 S30 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 3:45 AM

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yes, 16 gig total

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which for your use case is nothing

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but again, you will figure this out by yourself down the road :)

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 3:46 AM

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Yea i can just buy like 12 of thoese

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and have whatever 16x 12 is

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192 gb

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 3:47 AM

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that board can only fit 6 of those kits

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 3:47 AM

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6 with only one CPU

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12 with two CPU

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 3:48 AM

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count ram slots

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24 right?

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 3:48 AM

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i just noticed that

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i counted way moreee

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thats still 96GB

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hell of a lot

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but that board will take 64GB sticks so if i really needed more ram

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i could go up to 1.5TB of ram

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 3:51 AM

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now, try and look at the price of those kits

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Lmao its as if you think my broke ass could afford that much memory off the bat
I think your missing the part where i have massive upgrade/expansion options if i need lmao

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i plan to get 1 CPU and the board + 2x 16GB kit of memory

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as something very small which can expand a lot

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Lets not even bring up the fact i have no intent to buy a case of it

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my only intent is to go buy a piece of wood and mount it to

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Im just a broke ass 15 year old all that i care about is
How much i can get per $

mild jackal Nov 26, 2020, 4:22 AM

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What cpu

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Were you the guy that was wanting to buy a G34 board>?

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 4:22 AM

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G34? what

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CPU in question is https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/76161/intel-xeon-processor-e5-2687w-v2-25m-cache-3-40-ghz.html

Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-2687W v2 (25M Cache, 3.40 GHz) Product Sp...

Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-2687W v2 (25M Cache, 3.40 GHz) quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.

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of course used

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 4:24 AM

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g34 is the name for Opteron socket

mild jackal Nov 26, 2020, 4:24 AM

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There was someone else I was trying to talk out of buying a G34 board

pastel monolith Nov 26, 2020, 4:28 AM

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that cpu is a beast

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with its 150w tdp

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 4:30 AM

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true

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ill just use a 9000 RPM server CPU cooler with liquid metal on it

pastel monolith Nov 26, 2020, 4:30 AM

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it needs a major cooling solution like that or some custom water cooling

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Noise dosent bother me as long as its constant

pastel monolith Nov 26, 2020, 4:31 AM

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dont let her get too hot

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 4:31 AM

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as long as its constant and i can tune it out im fine

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Lmao i used a 9000 RPM server cooler with a E5-2690 v1

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with bad thermal interface material

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i used a graphite thermal pad

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still kept it at 70c

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without much throttling

pastel monolith Nov 26, 2020, 4:32 AM

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its not a normal cpu though keep her under 78c at all times

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 4:32 AM

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yes

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So liquid metal + Server cooler should do

pastel monolith Nov 26, 2020, 4:32 AM

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yeah server cooler will do it

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really really loud though lol

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Yes already have my expericece with the server cooler in question

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The cooler is pretty chunky

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Ignore the chinese motherboard

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Its quite a stout little cooler

📎 KIMG0114.JPG

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sounds like a turbine

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but it does well

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will probally do even better because i plan to
mount the duel socket motherboard to a piece of wood and let it run open air

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Ok i will end up putting guards over the fans tho because those are some really mean fans to have out iin the open

pastel monolith Nov 26, 2020, 4:35 AM

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you must get an air filter just like one of those room ones and put it next to it and it will suck in all the dust instead of the cpu lol

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 4:35 AM

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lmao my bed room has two large air purifiers in it

pastel monolith Nov 26, 2020, 4:36 AM

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thats what im talking about

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 4:36 AM

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my room has like no dust
like my PC can go a year any only get a little dusty

pastel monolith Nov 26, 2020, 4:36 AM

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yeah I have to big holmes ones next to our set up here at home lol

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 4:37 AM

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lmao

pastel monolith Nov 26, 2020, 4:37 AM

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at this point we have one in pretty much every room. when i realized that it eliminated dusting...

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 4:38 AM

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If you got a HVAC system you can just set the fan to run constantly
so its constantly filtering and circulating air lmao

pastel monolith Nov 26, 2020, 4:38 AM

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I almost dont have to vacuum anymore lol

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Lmao

pastel monolith Nov 26, 2020, 4:38 AM

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oh and I totally leave the hvac fan running all the time

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 4:39 AM

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lmao i personally wish my parents would have ours set to run all the time
but my parents refuse to
so i had to go get one of those duct booster fan things, just to keep my room at any reasonable temp

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I want to take the fans out of the duct booster and put server fans in it

pastel monolith Nov 26, 2020, 4:40 AM

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lol

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 4:42 AM

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yea i got one of these to help cool my stuff... because like my room gets hot AF just by running a few PC's ~~the thing has 2x 80mm fans, i want to put 2x 80mm 9000rpm delta fans in it~~

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i used to run a GTX 580 to

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so that just added to the Thermal load

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*GTX 580 was under full load 24/7 365

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Assuming were dealing with Freedom units
My room would normally be like 80F while the rest of the house would be like 60F before i got the duct booster

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 4:57 AM

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another thing to consider: ask the people paying the power bill if they are okay with things like that :)

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because if you are in a air con setup, you are not only using power on the machine itself, you are also potentially taxing the aircon a heck of a lot :)

rigid sluice Nov 26, 2020, 5:07 AM

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You have a valid point but they didnt have much of a problem when i was running like 4 PC's in my room 100% load 24/7 consuming like 800-900w constantly

And considering this planned machine is going to be 500w or so

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it wont be much of a issue

sour coyote Nov 26, 2020, 6:09 AM

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anyone in canada backordered at memory express? would like to know the average time it would take to actually receive the cpu if i order there

cyan night Nov 26, 2020, 6:26 AM

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it depends

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during launch i monitored my local one if they restocked

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when i saw it

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me n my friend drove down and picked one up each

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@sour coyote

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cpu will be easier than the gpus

sour coyote Nov 26, 2020, 6:36 AM

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yeah i dont have one on my province (quebec) so my only shot at this place is on their website. Just trying to figure out if its a better deal than fighting for a restock on newegg or amazon

cinder sphinx Nov 26, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Can msi mag x570 tomahawk wifi update bios without cpu?

novel finch Nov 26, 2020, 6:48 AM

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Anybody know if the msi B365 Pro DH Board has argb headers?

candid vale Nov 26, 2020, 7:07 AM

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can you get 3600mhz on an intel b460 mobo

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 7:14 AM

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No you can't, the ram speeds are limited depending on the CPU used. If it's an i5 or lower then it's limited to 2666Mhz, if it's i7 and above then it's limited to 2933Mhz

vivid pewter Nov 26, 2020, 7:25 AM

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Will the crucial ballistix rgb work on my mobo even though the specific kit is not on the qvl list?

hollow kraken Nov 26, 2020, 7:25 AM

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what makes the b450m pro4 such a popular board?

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 7:27 AM

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Could be because it's cheap?

cyan night Nov 26, 2020, 8:41 AM

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@cinder sphinx yes

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 9:29 AM

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@hollow thorn we have talked about it before, but here is a good example of the "silly" that is AsRack

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https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=ROMED4ID-2T#Specifications

cosmic pagoda Nov 26, 2020, 12:00 PM

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Does it make sense to buy the Ryzen 9 3950, or should I wait for the ryzen 9 5950X (+$100) to become available?

fickle flax Nov 26, 2020, 12:10 PM

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cosmic pagoda Does it make sense to buy the Ryzen 9 3950, or should I wait for the ryzen 9 595...

depends if you really want the 5950x or you will upgrade to it eventually in the long run

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Could anyone help me find these? G.SKILL F4-3800C14Q-32GTZN

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They seem to have disappeared from the Newegg page all together

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https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232895

fallen lynx Nov 26, 2020, 2:14 PM

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vivid pewter Will the crucial ballistix rgb work on my mobo even though the specific kit is n...

usually, yes. but theres always a chance

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:04 PM

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everytime i look at my 32gb ram i wonder if i really need that eventhough i am video editing large videos and streaming

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:04 PM

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I'm not really interested in the quantity

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More so the frequency and latency

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And to populate all slots

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The 16GB I have at the moment is enough

hollow thorn Nov 26, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Lmao

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Is something funny?

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Armoury crate is really screwing with my pc in sleep cycle and restart. Is their a different way to control all the lighting without Aura Sync?

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:17 PM

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oh sht

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just realized why this cpu on amd was 294

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it has 4.4ghz vs mine at 279 having 3.6ghz

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if i apply blackfriday code they are the same price

rigid zodiac Nov 26, 2020, 3:18 PM

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hi grop i have a problem i have a aerus x570 master a ryzen 9 3900xt and 64 gig memories 3200 mhz but when i put the xpm memori booster my pc crash all the time solution for this

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:18 PM

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can someone tell me what are the benefits of having a higher boost clock cpu

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Depends what you want to do with it really

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:20 PM

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rigid zodiac hi grop i have a problem i have a aerus x570 master a ryzen 9 3900xt and 64 gig ...

Make sure your voltages are set to the correct setting for the RAM you have

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:20 PM

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game, stream, video editing large files

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im confused

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this code by newegg says it ends 11/30

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for black friday but email says limited 24 hrs

rigid zodiac Nov 26, 2020, 3:21 PM

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ok and i see this on bios or anithing else

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:21 PM

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naive pendant im confused

It's all about latency essentially

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The higher the frequency the latency is effectively reduced

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:22 PM

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rigid zodiac ok and i see this on bios or anithing else

Check your bios settings for DRAM Voltage

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:22 PM

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naive pendant for black friday but email says limited 24 hrs

You want your latencies to be as low as possible

rigid zodiac Nov 26, 2020, 3:22 PM

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ok and he siad 1.35 v but he crash

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:23 PM

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ok @sharp creek

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:23 PM

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rigid zodiac ok and he siad 1.35 v but he crash

Pull out a RAM stick and check on the label

rigid zodiac Nov 26, 2020, 3:23 PM

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ok

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:24 PM

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naive pendant ok <@!435766772424245258>

The actual time it takes you to video edit in particular will depend on a lot of other factors though

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:24 PM

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ik i have 32gb ram as well

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2 cl 1600 16gb sticks

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Type of encoding and compiling you are doing with what software etc.

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:24 PM

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so im covered on multiple computers i transfer to when i have to update it xd

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dont hae to rush to 24gb of ram like everyone else when the time comes

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:25 PM

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You are running 1600MHz?

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:26 PM

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i posted my build somewhere here

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GjPw3Z

System Builder

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Very similar to mine actually

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Are you running XMP?

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:29 PM

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idk what that is

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al ik is i ganna enable somethn in bios

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Make sure you are running XMP in the bios

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Do the same thing

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:30 PM

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LMFAO

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regardless if i get 3.6ghz or if i get the 4.4ghz

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Pull out of a RAM stick and check it is set correctly

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:30 PM

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they will come out to be the same price

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ye i will

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:30 PM

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What are you thinking of buying?

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:30 PM

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i think ima buy the cpu now

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amd ryzen 7 3700x

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:31 PM

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What CPU?

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:31 PM

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its alrdy on black friday deal, may as well

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:31 PM

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What are you running at the moment?

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:31 PM

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im running a laptop

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intel core i7

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Right, got you this is a shopping list

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:31 PM

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that cant play a simple game like hearthstone

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:32 PM

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I would probably save your money and go for a ryzen 5 to be honest

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:32 PM

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nah im good

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:32 PM

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I have been running a 3700X for about a year

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:32 PM

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what ghz

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mine is 8 core 16 thread im ganna get

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:32 PM

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I am running an all core overclock at 4.45GHz

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Runs at that constantly

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No boost

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:33 PM

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welp buying this now

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Give me a shout if you need a hand setting anything up

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:34 PM

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will do

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been pricing this stuff for a while now

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:36 PM

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what GPU are you going for?

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I would also recommend checking out CCL Clearance Section

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CCL Computers that is

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:40 PM

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i want the nvidia 3070

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:40 PM

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MSI MAG B550M MORTAR - £99

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:40 PM

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for 500 or the 3060ti comin out december

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unless i get a deal on the ones that used to cost above 500 (before the 3070s came out)

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i think it was 2080 super or windforce somethn like that, was 550 now its 440

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i cant remember the name so i cant find it

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Gigabyte B550 GAMING X - £115

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I am looking to upgrade my GPU soon

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Currently running 2060 Super

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It is a bit under powered

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 3:56 PM

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@gritty meadow the 2tb i have in my system building list u said somethn abt it

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whats wrong with it if i choose it, is it noisy?

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slow?

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 4:00 PM

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its going to be the loudest part of your system. that was my comment on it a couple of days ago

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 4:00 PM

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ahh

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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-supreme-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-3700x-16gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-1tb-ssd/6400453.p?skuId=6400453

Best Buy

CyberPowerPC Gamer Supreme Gaming Desktop AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 16GB Me...

Shop CyberPowerPC Gamer Supreme Gaming Desktop AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 16GB Memory AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 1TB SSD at Best Buy. Find low everyday prices and buy online for delivery or in-store pick-up. Price Match Guarantee.

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with 5700xt being alrdy near 500, how the hell is this build 999 bucks -_-

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cpu is alrdy 300 bucks itself

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and he gives all peripherals like wtf

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that build at minimum (if i were to switch out his tb ssd for my 2tb) would be worth near 1300$ just retail cost

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also switching out ram to 16gb since he is using 16gb i using 36gb

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32*

obsidian peak Nov 26, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Is it possible to change ryzen r5 4650g tdp like the amd A series Kaveri processors?

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 4:08 PM

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I couldn't ever recommend a pre-built

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 4:09 PM

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obsidian peak Is it possible to change ryzen r5 4650g tdp like the amd A series Kaveri process...

Manually increasing your voltages should increase your power target

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This will increase your TDP

obsidian peak Nov 26, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Ohh. I had an A series. Which had an option in bios for configurable tdp

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Was it a percentage?

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Well the answer to your question is apparently yes

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Although I doubt you would be able to increase it by much

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With A series boards especially

obsidian peak Nov 26, 2020, 4:15 PM

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A series I had 45w/65w options

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It got from 3.0 to 3.1 something

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I don't want to mess with voltages and stuffs that I don't understand well.

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😂

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 4:17 PM

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obsidian peak I don't want to mess with voltages and stuffs that I don't understand well.

Use HW Monitor and keep an eye on what the voltage ranges are under load conditions

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As long as your cooling is good enough you should be able to crank it up a bit

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 4:18 PM

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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-tuf-gaming-vg249q-144hz-23-8-ips-lcd-fhd-1ms-freesync-gaming-monitor-displayport-dvi-hdmi-black/6395359.p?skuId=6395359

Best Buy

ASUS TUF Gaming VG249Q 144Hz 23.8” IPS LCD FHD 1ms FreeSync Gaming ...

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sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Small incremental adjustments though

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Test it as you go

obsidian peak Nov 26, 2020, 4:18 PM

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sharp creek Use HW Monitor and keep an eye on what the voltage ranges are under load conditi...

Oh. Let me try something tomorrow.

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What's the red signal to lookout for

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Temps?

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Yeh

obsidian peak Nov 26, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Ok. Cool

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 4:19 PM

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On both the CPU and Mobo

obsidian peak Nov 26, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Yes

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Easy to kill VRMs with poor cooling solutions

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Cheaper boards always have poor VRM cooling

devout mothBOT Nov 26, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Thundering_Love#7346 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Naughty naughty

obsidian peak Nov 26, 2020, 4:20 PM

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I have got good cooling and Airways. Mobo is asus b550f gaming wifi

obsidian peak Nov 26, 2020, 4:20 PM

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devout moth

😂 😂 😂

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 4:20 PM

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You should be fine with the VRM cooling

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Keep on eye on what your usual temps are on CPU under load and the voltages you are hitting before making any changes

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Save a profile in your bios before starting to make any changes too so you have a safe bio to go back to if you have made changes already

obsidian peak Nov 26, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Yep I'll make a note before

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Yes that's what I was thinking

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Thanks mate

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Give me a shout if you need a hand

obsidian peak Nov 26, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Sure sure

blissful dragon Nov 26, 2020, 4:27 PM

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QUESTIONEY

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thoughts on asrock x570 tachi?

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(went on sale and I wants)

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thinking about that vs. asus prime x570

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 4:42 PM

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I think both those boards are pretty good, the Taichi might edge out the prime possibly though. I recall Hardware Unboxed giving it the overall best board back when they were reviewing all the new X570 boards.

blissful dragon Nov 26, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Tyty

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It does have the extra m.2 as well

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 4:55 PM

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blissful dragon QUESTIONEY

I would personally recommend a Gigabyte X570 from my own experience of them

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3 m.2 slots on my Aorus Ultra

vast halo Nov 26, 2020, 5:39 PM

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What's y'all's opinion on the number of RAM sticks

blissful dragon Nov 26, 2020, 5:39 PM

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I keep mine at 2 sticks

vast halo Nov 26, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Does maxing out the channels really gain much

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 5:40 PM

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2x16 dual rank is the sweet spot atm

vast halo Nov 26, 2020, 5:40 PM

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blissful dragon I keep mine at 2 sticks

I'm thinking this too, to make it easier to upgrade

blissful dragon Nov 26, 2020, 5:40 PM

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sharp creek I would personally recommend a Gigabyte X570 from my own experience of them

That would be my decision but it depends on what Black Friday brings

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 5:40 PM

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not really. Its risky to add a diffrent kit ... The xmp profile is calibrated per kit

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It does often work tho.. so worth a try anyway

vast halo Nov 26, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Oh, didn't know that. It'll always work at the JEDEC speeds though, right?

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(without xmp). I don't know what those are for ddr4 though

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 5:41 PM

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It will always work at low speeds or u can tune manually

blissful dragon Nov 26, 2020, 5:41 PM

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works at what it’s rated to run at

vast halo Nov 26, 2020, 5:43 PM

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3200 is a real JEDEC speed for ddr4 so (I assume) the same model of 3200 kit should work together? Anything above 3200 is xmp and if you're correct anything could happen

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I have 3200 on my current build but I'm considering getting 3600 for my new ryzen build

blissful dragon Nov 26, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Amd says that 3600 is the sweet spot for Ryzen 5000

vast halo Nov 26, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Yep. Only thing holding me back is that if I go for the same 2x16@3200 kit I have now, I can yoink the other kit from my current build if I go insane and cause 32 gigs to not be enough

blissful dragon Nov 26, 2020, 5:46 PM

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32gigs would be enough lol

vast halo Nov 26, 2020, 5:46 PM

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I thought so... It has been not enough before

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But only when I'm doing stupid things so probably not worth it to prepare for 64gb

blissful dragon Nov 26, 2020, 5:46 PM

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The heck you doing that uses 32GB

vast halo Nov 26, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Booting windows

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 5:47 PM

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What phaSheva

blissful dragon Nov 26, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Hah

vast halo Nov 26, 2020, 5:47 PM

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It boots up right quick if you boot it from RAM

blissful dragon Nov 26, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Pretty unoptimized windows

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Oh

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Oh you're using a RAM drive?

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That makes sense for small stuff maybe, but excessive for an entire OS

blissful dragon Nov 26, 2020, 5:48 PM

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My m.2 drive would operate at the same speed as my ram 🙂

vast halo Nov 26, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Sort of? In that case I just threw the VM image into /tmp

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@blissful dragon the latency is what gets ya on those SSDs

blissful dragon Nov 26, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Correct

vast halo Nov 26, 2020, 5:49 PM

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I don't know the access pattern of booting windows but it must be a lot of small operations because it absolutely flies when booting from ram

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 5:50 PM

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How much faster does it boot?

vast halo Nov 26, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Iirc it was basically instant. Less than a second I'd say

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From an old SSD I was getting 10-20s on that same image

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BUT it's not useful because:

windows needs about 25gb to actually install and run, leaving very little for the VM to use as actual RAM
in order to do it you need to load the image from non-volatile storage every time you boot the real PC so you're not REALLY saving time

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ANYWAY I will go ahead and grab 2x16@3600 at some point

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 5:54 PM

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I'm having significant issues with my build. I contacted NEWEGG to assist with a RMA issues, and they directed me here. How should I be proceed?

vast halo Nov 26, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Did they send you here to try to fix your problem without an RMA or to help the actual RMA? Not that I'm personally helpful for either

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Name all your parts. and what ur issue is in a nice format

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Basically I've been dealing with this issue for several months, and they are debating whether to contact AMD on my behalf because AMD hasn't responded to any of my requests.

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3950x on Gigabyte Aorus master,(x570) the computer phantom resets

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 5:57 PM

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one paragraph pls.. Keep it neat

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u dont need to spread it out in 15 spots

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 5:58 PM

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apologies. Should I post/list the specs? can also copy/past all troubleshooting.

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Sure.. We need to know all parts and the problem

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Motherboard; Gigabyte x570 Aorus master v1.0
RAM; 4x memory sticks of G.SKILL F4-3600C16-8GVKC
PSU=750W, M.2 NVME Samsung 970 1TB

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computer will hard restart whenever it is under heavy load[ This normally occurs when I am playing video games and sometimes when i am editing a video. The computer will also randomly restart whenever it is idle for just 2-3hrs. This also occurs sometimes during startup (1/10), and happens in both windows-10 and Ubuntu 20.1. Windows event viewer will indicate Critical Event 41 (Kernel-Power). The numerous WHEA-errors (Event-19).

Occasionally these hard resets will also trigger Event 55(Kernel-Processor-power), 32 times, for every processor on the chip. Online users have informed that this maybe caused by a faulty CPU. Tthe CPU has not been overclocked or modified, all settings are set to auto. Based on online feedback this cpu does seem to run at higher than normal temperatures 52-60C under load. I am using a sufficient water-cooling setup with 2x 280 radiators.

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Manually adjusted memory timings (XMP, Levels 1/2/3, default 2133Mhz)
Manually removed/replaced memory in slots 1,2,3,4 (and 2x8, in slots 1/3 OR 2/4)
Swapped Power supply (corsair 750W for known working Corsair 600W)
Re-installed windows 10 and Ubuntu OS 20.1
Removed/replaced CMOS batter in motherboard.
Swapped graphics card (5700xt for known good RX480)
Set PICE to 3.0 vs. 4.0, manual Bifurcation
Swapped SATA and NVME drives
Attempted different BIOS version (F20 thru current F30)
Adjusted numerous BIOS settings for memory, Fast boot, USB, ethernet, etc.
Turned off windows power supply/hibernation schemes
Updated all drivers (AMD Ryzen, AMD GPU, Realtek Lan, NVME, SATA, raid etc.)

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##what I've attempted to resolve the issue

hidden hound Nov 26, 2020, 6:03 PM

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dumb question, have you reseated the cpu/cooler and checked for dmg?

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Yes, no issues. It does seem to run higher than nomral 55-62C, but online reviewers said this is normal under load.

hidden hound Nov 26, 2020, 6:04 PM

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i would guess faulty cpu but i could be very wrong. i've had stranger issues happen

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i take it you haven't yet tried replacing with a known good cpu?

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(i take it you also don't have one)

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:05 PM

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I don't have a similar CPU to test with.

hidden hound Nov 26, 2020, 6:05 PM

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i'm sure someone around here or on reddit could get you a known good am4 cpu to test with

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:05 PM

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G.Skill memory is my current topic, as they company responded and said that you cannot use multiple G.Skill "kits" in your computer

hidden hound Nov 26, 2020, 6:06 PM

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gray jetty G.Skill memory is my current topic, as they company responded and said that you ...

that's kinda bs.

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 6:06 PM

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The first haunch i have is your Ram.. It seems you also had the same idea however. I had some faulty ram that kept corrupting my files frequently.. Next I suspect Motherboard. I bought a Aorus Pro B550 at release and it had very similar issues to urs. I finally sent it back for a Asus B550-e.. No problems after that

hidden hound Nov 26, 2020, 6:06 PM

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have you tried only one "kit"?

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:06 PM

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basically i have two (2x 8gb kits) for a total of 32gb

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Oh snap

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Andrew u sumbazz

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XMP is set per kit

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Any configuration of 2x8gb works fine, 4x8gb seems to cause greater instabillity

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 6:07 PM

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my laptop just puts itself to sleep at randomt imes, even when just booting it up, aka why im alrdy moving to a new pc

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@gray jetty 2x8gb is better

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Even in manual timing the issue still occurs, so we are pretty certain it is the CPU

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 6:07 PM

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If you attempt to combine 2 kits the xmp will work sometimes.. But if it doesnt you are forced to tune manually... this si where your at

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U get luck or you dont simple as that

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Do you want me to post the memory timings I've attempted??

hidden hound Nov 26, 2020, 6:08 PM

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yeah try just setting manually the xmp stats? if you haven't already

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 6:08 PM

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No because Memory tuneing is extremely complicated and varies with absolutely every kit

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:09 PM

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***Also, is there any good documentation/references for what memory times you should use? G.Skill refused to assist on this issue, or even provide manual timmings/voltages

hidden hound Nov 26, 2020, 6:09 PM

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the best you're going to get is whatever the stock settings are. tuning is pretty much manual from there

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I have overclocked a bit of ram myself.... The best thing i can do is point you to watch VIds on it on Youtube to try to understand it..... It is stupidly complicated

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BTW i did the same thing you did...... It caused similar errors

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 6:11 PM

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im overclocking everything, 32gb ram, cpu, mofo ganna open whatever i want in 1 second xd

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Thats where i started studying stuff i found online and learned enough to understand the basics

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 6:11 PM

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btw i want to confirm, b550 motherboard has wifi right and bluetooth

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kVfqdD

System Builder

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Please, I'll take all the help I can get. My manual timing has safely put me at DDR4-3400, but here's the kicker. Even at stock 2133 MHZ the random restarts still occur, just now as frequently, and not when gaming

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 6:11 PM

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heres my stuff i have left to buy

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 6:11 PM

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@naive pendant totally depends on the model... They are all diffrent

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 6:12 PM

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@neat estuary i sent the part list if u can check it out

hidden hound Nov 26, 2020, 6:12 PM

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yeah he just posted his build, it looks as if it does

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it says wifi and the io has antennae

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 6:12 PM

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@hidden hound my only question is if i have 2 ssd's how do i put them onto the motherbaord, does this have space for both?

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 6:13 PM

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@gray jetty Here is the short of it.. If you mix kits,and it fails... we really cant help you,, You can take it to a pro,,, to tune if you find one,, or attempt to learn yourself... I recommend you return/selll your kits and buy a kit of 2x16gb kits

hidden hound Nov 26, 2020, 6:14 PM

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naive pendant <@!173479179688345602> my only question is if i have 2 ssd's how do i put them o...

m.2 or 2.5"?

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it looks like you have 2x m.2 slots

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and 4 sata slots, so you should be fine either way

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 6:14 PM

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@gray jetty As you basiclly confirmed your problem is "when" you add the second kit,, i now understand when they blew you off.... Its just how it goes

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 6:15 PM

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@hidden hound so the sata slots are for 2.5"?

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Thanks Cru4y, I didn't realize manually setting RAM would be so difficult, but now I'm still stuck with the random resets that occur with stock speed? I think I will try to find a Ryzen CPU to swap out and test

hidden hound Nov 26, 2020, 6:15 PM

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naive pendant <@!173479179688345602> so the sata slots are for 2.5"?

yes

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 6:16 PM

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cools so imf ine wither way

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@gray jetty why not just enable xmp in bios smh lol

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Single kit, or even single module still produces the Resets, they are just less often.

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Feel free... It is a factor,,, but just one of very many... Try Dram Calculator if you want and try easy settings...

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:17 PM

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I've attempted XMP, and XMP Profiles 1,2,3 and then manual timings (which I think will work....). Goal here is to minimize these resets to once a week vs. 2-4 times a day.

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Can you still tell the diffrence??

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Kits have a serial number just one number diffrent

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I would try both kits by themselves

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and see if one works but not the other

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what is your GPU and your rateing on your PSU

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:21 PM

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I've actually tried several combinations (because I didn't mark which sticks came together). It does happen less frequently with my current 2x8GB kit. Is there a way to tell which stick came with which kit? Don't think it matters as the XMP is configured for all stick equally (per the Thaiphoon readings)

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 6:21 PM

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It very much matters

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Kits have a serial number 1 number diffrent

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like just the last number is one number diffrent

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:21 PM

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GPU is sapphire 5700XT, PSu is 750W, but I've also tried 600W to check if this was the issue

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 6:22 PM

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750w should be fine.. But is it some really cheap one?

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 6:22 PM

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i got 750w today

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just to be safe, was same price as 600w bronze

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got 750w gold on deal

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for some reaosn my 600w bronze went to 180 bucks

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from 120

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i was like breh

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:23 PM

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You don't really need anything higher than 600W. even at max load my UPS reports only 358W of power draw.

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 6:24 PM

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I actually dont think it matters if you tried both

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:24 PM

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No, Corsair M750 no wait CX750

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Atm i blame your ram... 95% certainty

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and i have to go. GL man.. You sound about like me when i built my first PC last year

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Hey thanks, I really appreciate the support, Happy Thanksgiving

neat estuary Nov 26, 2020, 6:25 PM

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But i stuck with it until i figured it out.. and learned a huge amount along the way

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Yes happy Turkey Day!

gray jetty Nov 26, 2020, 6:26 PM

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This is like my 14th build, and havent'd had soo many issues until I switched back to AMD and x570

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 6:29 PM

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guys ik this has wifi but now my concern is does it have bluetooth, no review is talkn abt it https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi

MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

harsh grotto Nov 26, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Most WiFi motherboards should come with Bluetooth

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 7:05 PM

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kk

tacit hemlock Nov 26, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Anyone see the apple m1 chip yet? I think its pretty interesting lol

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 7:23 PM

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gray jetty This is like my 14th build, and havent'd had soo many issues until I switched ba...

Just caught up with this thread and I have a X570 Aorus Ultra

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Had numerous issues with similar things when I built mine using 3700X

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Check your VRM loadlines, I have set all mine to the max and it is very stable now

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I also had to set a manual voltage on the CPU to get everything to run more stable

dusk vessel Nov 26, 2020, 7:24 PM

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should i buy i7 9700k or i9 9900k

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 7:24 PM

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You should buy AMD 🙂

dusk vessel Nov 26, 2020, 7:25 PM

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i want intel

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Well between those two, 9900k. Forget about 8 threads

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And if you can 10700k, get on their latest chipset

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 7:27 PM

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If you are only gaming buy 10600k

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Watch some gamers nexus reviews

dusk vessel Nov 26, 2020, 7:28 PM

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i only have these two options because they are on sale for black friday

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Eh, even then I think 12 threads are at the end of their rope

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Then go with what El Domonio said

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Get more

dusk vessel Nov 26, 2020, 7:31 PM

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i9 ?

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Whatever is giving you at least 16 threads, either 9900k or 10700k

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 7:41 PM

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would this be a good motherboard choice for the new AMD CPU's?

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https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-TUF-X570-Plus-Motherboard-Lighting/dp/B07SXFK1TP/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=ASUS+X570+Motherboard&qid=1606419580&s=electronics&sr=1-8

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👀

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oof little pricey for me, im just buying a new case and motherboard atm then i'll get a new CPU next month

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 7:46 PM

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That motherboard is alright, but I think there's objectively better B550 options for less money too

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Like the Tomahawk https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-b550-tomahawk/p/N82E16813144326

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It's on sale right now, I believe it has better VRMs than the TUF as well

naive pendant Nov 26, 2020, 7:49 PM

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oh nice

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yeah ima go for that, many thanks @violet zealot sbBirdThumbsUp

vivid pewter Nov 26, 2020, 7:53 PM

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So I am buying 2x8 3600 cl16 crucial ballistix rgb, but I can not seem to find this specific kit on any mobo qvl. Will this be a problem?

prisma nymph Nov 26, 2020, 7:53 PM

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huh, 3600x is the same price as the 3600 rn

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 7:54 PM

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vivid pewter So I am buying 2x8 3600 cl16 crucial ballistix rgb, but I can not seem to find t...

Which motherboards have you looked at?

vivid pewter Nov 26, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Mostly b550

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Gaming edge wifi, aorus pro ac, and aorus elite ax

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The specific kit is not on the qvlof ny of these mobos

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I also just checked two x570 asus tuf and aorus elite

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Are those Ballistix kits new?

vivid pewter Nov 26, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I think they are

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Cause I haven't seen them around until recently

vivid pewter Nov 26, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Not many reviews

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I know the older Ballistix models are on the QVL generally

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So it could work just the same, but I dunno. QVL isn't end all be all, but it does ensure stability and that everything's working right at least

vivid pewter Nov 26, 2020, 8:27 PM

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They were released February 4th

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2020

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So this year

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 8:28 PM

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If the reviews are saying that it works, then it's likely alright

vivid pewter Nov 26, 2020, 8:32 PM

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This may sound dumb, but if I buy a 3600 cl16 kit it will run 3600 out of the box without tuning right?

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 8:33 PM

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No, it will run at a default speed, typically 2133 or 2400

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You need to enable the XMP profile in the Bios

vivid pewter Nov 26, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Oh ok thanks

hidden hound Nov 26, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Can anyone tell me if this kit of memory is samsung b-die? https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232898?Item=N82E16820232898

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B-die finder https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/ doesn't seem to see it.

B-Die Finder

Find Samsung B-Die DDR 4 memory kits on Amazon, Newegg and many more.

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There is one difference in SKU, there is a C at the end of it compared to the $130 one

hollow thorn Nov 26, 2020, 9:07 PM

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@hidden hound it's 99% chance not b die

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Yes

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C at the end means dif die

hidden hound Nov 26, 2020, 9:08 PM

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the normal $130 one is probably b-die then?

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232491?Item=N82E16820232491 this one

hollow thorn Nov 26, 2020, 9:08 PM

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The one with 16-16-16-36 is decent b die

hidden hound Nov 26, 2020, 9:08 PM

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ok

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is it definitely worth the extra $30?

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i would think so

hollow thorn Nov 26, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Are you going to OC

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If not

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No

hidden hound Nov 26, 2020, 9:08 PM

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a little bit probably

hollow thorn Nov 26, 2020, 9:10 PM

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B die gives you no perf gain at XMP

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All it gives you is headroom for OCing

hidden hound Nov 26, 2020, 9:11 PM

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i wouldn't do xmp most likely, i would manually oc

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but not like extremely much

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just like average oc i guess

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 10:38 PM

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https://www.newegg.ca/team-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331527?Item=N82E16820331527 what're your opinions on these
i already bought them for my upcoming build but i dunno if people will think these are a bad choice or not

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the timings are pretty chonk 22-22-22-52

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but at 32gb for each stick the capacity to price was undeniable

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 10:41 PM

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That's a single stick?

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 10:41 PM

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yes

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i bought 2 cause its cheaper in singles than paired to 64

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i didnt really think about like, bottlenecks from ram timings

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so thats in the back of my head

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im sure it'll run great but there was probably a similar but better option

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 10:44 PM

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What uh system are you using this in, a Ryzen one?

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 10:44 PM

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5900x

prisma nymph Nov 26, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Alright, just before I buy my mobo and cpu (and case) I just wanna do a final check that there’s no compatibility issues

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589689072692494356/781621916636676136/image0.jpg

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/RmNR4d

System Builder

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$80 cheaper than whan pcpartpicker says too
cause its bundled

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 10:47 PM

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i guess running dual with chonk timings will still be faster than running quad with faster timings

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afaik they're double sided sticks which is probably whats contributing to the chonk timings

violet zealot Nov 26, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Dual Rank I think it's called

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But I just think the quality of the memory is just on the lower end, not because it's dual ranked

sharp creek Nov 26, 2020, 11:05 PM

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prisma nymph Alright, just before I buy my mobo and cpu (and case) I just wanna do a final ch...

That will be fine

amber lantern Nov 26, 2020, 11:17 PM

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this any good

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:18 PM

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#old-cooling

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 11:19 PM

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@uneven onyx https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RjK2FT/team-t-force-vulcan-z-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-tlzgd464g3200hc16cdc01

Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:20 PM

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yeah thats more expensive

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 11:20 PM

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thats 2 sticks

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:20 PM

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yeah and its american dollars

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smug

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 11:20 PM

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ah, the sneaky northern dollars

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:21 PM

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yeah it makes everything complicated, budget it all out and then ohhh nice this site is located 20 minutes on the other side of the border that'll be 30% more money + shipping and tariffs pls

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https://www.newegg.ca/team-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331496

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 11:23 PM

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aye, difference is the timings are a heck of a lot better than what you had on the model you listed

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:23 PM

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taxes and shipping came to $287.91 cad

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yeah I see that but will Timing 22-22-22-52 vs Timing 16-18-18-38 make up that big a difference

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 11:24 PM

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imo, yes, and then some

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:24 PM

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i noticed the voltages are also different between those two

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 11:24 PM

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look in the channel pins

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:25 PM

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oh i didnt know that chart was there this is really handy

neon sigil Nov 26, 2020, 11:26 PM

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any good reccs for ram?

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:26 PM

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but thats for CL

neon sigil Nov 26, 2020, 11:26 PM

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for a 5600x?

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im looking at crucial ballistix

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i dont wanna mess with memory tuning and stuff

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and im getting an x570 board

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:26 PM

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oh cl is still 16 for the one you linked though so it'd still hold true

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 11:26 PM

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aye

heady root Nov 26, 2020, 11:27 PM

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the rgb crucial ballistix 3600 cl16 2x8 kit is 70 rn

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 11:27 PM

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cl16 is imo the only thing that makes sense, unless you are going either super budget OR the opposite

neon sigil Nov 26, 2020, 11:27 PM

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is that good for ryzen?

heady root Nov 26, 2020, 11:27 PM

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yeah 3600 cl16 is solid

neon sigil Nov 26, 2020, 11:27 PM

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theres so many convoluted things involved with timing

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and infinity fabric

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:27 PM

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i get bigger number is worse but what does this actually represent? the time between actions?

neon sigil Nov 26, 2020, 11:27 PM

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its confusing

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 11:28 PM

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basically yes @uneven onyx

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:28 PM

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so would this be 37.5% slower overall

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 11:28 PM

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and basically yes

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:28 PM

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nice

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 11:28 PM

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it does not quite scale like that

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but, close enough etc etc

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:28 PM

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the 16 is at 10.00 so i mean 13.75

gritty meadow Nov 26, 2020, 11:28 PM

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aye aye

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:29 PM

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on the flip side of things i should compare to my current ram gimme a sec

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do you think it'd run faster if i used just the one stick or both with this considered

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1064 cl 15 bigthonk

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i guess it'll still be a massive improvement to what i have now if the charts trends mean anything

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i guess i could look into overvolting since these are 1.2v vs the ones you linked being 1.35v and by the same company

worthy dome Nov 26, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Pogchamp first pc part

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uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:35 PM

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the lack of a heat spreader might make it a bad idea though

ionic skiff Nov 26, 2020, 11:37 PM

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what motherboard to match ryzen 7 5800x?

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:39 PM

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am4 socketed boards that claim to have support for it, some will need a firmware update before hand though

ionic skiff Nov 26, 2020, 11:39 PM

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ah i see thanks

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do you have any specific recommendations?

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:39 PM

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i havent gotten my 5900x yet so i can't really make any

worthy dome Nov 26, 2020, 11:40 PM

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ionic skiff what motherboard to match ryzen 7 5800x?

Get a b550

ionic skiff Nov 26, 2020, 11:40 PM

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thanks

uneven onyx Nov 26, 2020, 11:41 PM

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ASRock B550 PRO 4 is what mines got coming but theres a bunch of other similar boards that are probably better

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one thing i'll say though is that having more/better m.2 connectors is probably gonna be a good thing

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those definitely seem to be the direction high performance anything is going

uneven onyx Nov 27, 2020, 12:29 AM

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NOTE: to calculate the RAM speed, you have to double the DRAM frequency in CPU-Z. If the DRAM frequency is 1800 MHz, then your total RAM clock speed is 3600 MHz (1800 X 2 = 3600).
oh hey im dumb i have 2100something

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14.06

mental bronze Nov 27, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Is 3200 speed ram good enough for an R5 3600

violet zealot Nov 27, 2020, 1:00 AM

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It's good enough, yeah

mental bronze Nov 27, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Ok

violet zealot Nov 27, 2020, 1:00 AM

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3200 is the expected supported speed

mental bronze Nov 27, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Thanks

quiet plank Nov 27, 2020, 1:05 AM

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is it ok to have intel xmp 2.0 ram with a ryzen cpu

hollow thorn Nov 27, 2020, 1:05 AM

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why not

strange tiger Nov 27, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Hey, dose anyone tried the xpg rams and is it good compare for the ones in the same price?

violet zealot Nov 27, 2020, 1:18 AM

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"XMP" is actually the intel branding of the feature, it's just marketing anyway

mild jackal Nov 27, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Just buy 3600 cl16

slim night Nov 27, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Adata xpg are the sticks i have in my system and I love them but really it doesn't matter all that much considering how cheap ram is getting

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They are good value, thats all to sau

arctic tiger Nov 27, 2020, 3:49 AM

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I bough the mpg b550 gaming edge wifi this morning for 140 cause it was on sale and i checked the price rn and now its 205 😳

grizzled fable Nov 27, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Check this out on @vague haven: ASRock B365M Pro4 LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel B365 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX Intel Motherboard https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157864?Item=N82E16813157864&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-13-157-864-_-11262020

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Would this work with an 1151 docket I5?

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Socket

lament hollow Nov 27, 2020, 4:30 AM

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does any know of a good motherboard for a ryzen 7 3700x

south harbor Nov 27, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Does the 3700x come with the wraith cooler?

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@lament hollow I’m buying the asrock b550 pro4

versed geyser Nov 27, 2020, 5:05 AM

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so i'm wanting to upgrade my ram from 2x 8gb corsair vengeance lpx to 2x 16gb corsair vengeance rgb pro. would i probably get a better deal for black friday or cyber monday?

gritty ocean Nov 27, 2020, 5:10 AM

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important

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split copper Nov 27, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Twitter for iPhone

gritty ocean Nov 27, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Twitter for iPhone

hollow thorn Nov 27, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Twitter for samsung smart fridge

split copper Nov 27, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Twitter for Gucci Smart Toilet

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Twitter for Large Hadron Collider

violet hatch Nov 27, 2020, 5:25 AM

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ayo

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so

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i want to upgrade ram as well

sour coyote Nov 27, 2020, 5:26 AM

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3600 cl16

split copper Nov 27, 2020, 5:28 AM

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What do you have atm @violet hatch ?

mental jungle Nov 27, 2020, 6:41 AM

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anyone know if asrock mobos are any good?

bleak heath Nov 27, 2020, 7:10 AM

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Asus X570-i gaming Mini ITX motherboard, I got the 2606 BIOS version, does it support AMD Ryzen 5900x?

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and how do I update it without a CPU, it doesn't support flashback

uneven onyx Nov 27, 2020, 7:15 AM

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https://rog.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-Strix/ROG-Strix-X570-I-Gaming-Model/ says on their site it supports it

ROG Strix X570-I Gaming | ROG Strix | Gaming Motherboards｜ROG - Rep...

AMD Ryzen 3000 series mini-ITX motherboard with Aura Sync, WiFi 6(802.11ax), Intel Gigabit LAN, Dual PCIe 4.0 M.2, SupremeFX and USB 3.2 Gen 2

bleak heath Nov 27, 2020, 7:17 AM

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Ok nice TY

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I guess so too, its just that another site says it doesn't

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not out of box

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but since its their site

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I guess it does

uneven onyx Nov 27, 2020, 7:29 AM

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shrug

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depends on how long you've had it possibly

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they might also be writing it ontheir sites to just cover their butts

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'may need firmware update' is a lot less likely to get angry customers demanding refunds if it doesnt work right away

mental jungle Nov 27, 2020, 7:32 AM

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Is getting a asrock b550m pro4 the right corner to cut for a budget gaming rig?

uneven onyx Nov 27, 2020, 7:33 AM

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how much was it

mental jungle Nov 27, 2020, 7:35 AM

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Could grab it for 100

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Looking to pair with a 3600

tribal yoke Nov 27, 2020, 7:37 AM

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hello

uneven onyx Nov 27, 2020, 7:37 AM

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ASRock B550 PRO4 is what i've got coming which is just the non-m version

mental jungle Nov 27, 2020, 7:38 AM

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So a decent board for the price?

tribal yoke Nov 27, 2020, 7:38 AM

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3900x OR 5800x???

uneven onyx Nov 27, 2020, 7:38 AM

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its like 10 dollars more than the one you're looking at on the canadian site

mental jungle Nov 27, 2020, 7:38 AM

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Building my sister a rig for Xmas and trying to cut as many corners as possible to stay on budget lol

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Its on sale by me

uneven onyx Nov 27, 2020, 7:39 AM

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oh on the american site the price difference is a lot more

mental jungle Nov 27, 2020, 7:40 AM

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Only complaint is the lack of a io shield

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Sadly I can't find the plans to print one

uneven onyx Nov 27, 2020, 7:40 AM

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i mean a lot of cases have those cheap punch out ones but

mental jungle Nov 27, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Also 4 sata is a bit low but doubt she will need it

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Its her first custom build and will be waaaaay better than anything she has had in the past

uneven onyx Nov 27, 2020, 7:42 AM

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4 sata isnt that few

mental jungle Nov 27, 2020, 7:42 AM

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I'm used to 6 or 8 lol

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I go all out with my personal builds

uneven onyx Nov 27, 2020, 7:42 AM

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even if they insist on an unused dvd drive thats 3 drives plus the m.2 slots

mental jungle Nov 27, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Week thanks for the input

uneven onyx Nov 27, 2020, 7:43 AM

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my current has 6 too but i dont use that many

mental jungle Nov 27, 2020, 7:43 AM

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I got 5 drives in mine atm

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Also had a disk in my old case but couldn't swap it over

uneven onyx Nov 27, 2020, 7:44 AM

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like unless your sister is hardcore her facebook and league of legends machine won't really need more than 4 sata

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👀

mental jungle Nov 27, 2020, 7:44 AM

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I'm only putting 1 sata drive to start anyways

uneven onyx Nov 27, 2020, 7:44 AM

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my own sister was asking me about a 500cad dell machine today and i was like 'yeah its stronger than you need'

mental jungle Nov 27, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Lol, she is already a bit of a gamer and looking to get into some more graphic intense stuff

uneven onyx Nov 27, 2020, 7:46 AM

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which cpu are you looking at putting in it

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3600?

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oh yeah you said that

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im tired

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just keep cpu/gpu bottlenecks in mind

mental jungle Nov 27, 2020, 7:49 AM

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Yeah I am

glad lodge Nov 27, 2020, 8:02 AM

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anyone one knows the dark hero drop? at what time?

astral tiger Nov 27, 2020, 8:23 AM

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that's what I want to know :\

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I wonder if it already did and it just sold out right away because the notice went away

normal tapir Nov 27, 2020, 8:45 AM

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Why did the ETA got removed from dark hero?

candid vale Nov 27, 2020, 8:53 AM

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whats the best 10th gen intel board under $150

astral tiger Nov 27, 2020, 8:56 AM

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normal tapir Why did the ETA got removed from dark hero?

because it's the 27th

outer coyote Nov 27, 2020, 9:01 AM

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Is this the chat for motherboards?

normal tapir Nov 27, 2020, 9:02 AM

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@astral tiger so is that normal and still gonna get restocked today? Cuz I’m new to Newegg but I setup and alert and when my alert went off and I checked, the only change was that the eta was removed

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Yes @outer coyote

outer coyote Nov 27, 2020, 9:04 AM

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What is the standard size for motherboards

fickle flax Nov 27, 2020, 9:05 AM

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atx

normal tapir Nov 27, 2020, 9:05 AM

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If I’m not mistaking ATX

fickle flax Nov 27, 2020, 9:05 AM

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thats the standard size

astral tiger Nov 27, 2020, 9:05 AM

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@normal tapir you got a restock alert?

outer coyote Nov 27, 2020, 9:05 AM

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Ok and what are the dimensions

astral tiger Nov 27, 2020, 9:05 AM

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i didnt get one =\

fickle flax Nov 27, 2020, 9:05 AM

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its mini itx, matx, atx, then eatx

normal tapir Nov 27, 2020, 9:07 AM

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@astral tiger I had my alert set on specific parts of the page so if anything changes on those parts it alerts me like the “out of stock” “notify me” texts on the page

fickle flax Nov 27, 2020, 9:07 AM

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outer coyote Ok and what are the dimensions

305x244 mm

outer coyote Nov 27, 2020, 9:07 AM

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Ok

astral tiger Nov 27, 2020, 9:07 AM

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normal tapir <@176506763116281857> I had my alert set on specific parts of the page so if any...

ah kk

outer coyote Nov 27, 2020, 9:08 AM

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And they should all have the same places to mount onto the case right?

fickle flax Nov 27, 2020, 9:08 AM

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should be

astral tiger Nov 27, 2020, 9:08 AM

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yeah I dont know when it will be stocked

outer coyote Nov 27, 2020, 9:08 AM

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Alright

normal tapir Nov 27, 2020, 9:08 AM

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This so so frustrating cuz it’s the last part I need 😂

astral tiger Nov 27, 2020, 9:09 AM

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same

solemn vault Nov 27, 2020, 10:21 AM

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should i get the gigabyte b450m board or asrock b450m pro 4 board

unkempt sphinx Nov 27, 2020, 10:35 AM

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ryzen 3600xt for 20$ more or do i go for 3600

dusk vessel Nov 27, 2020, 11:44 AM

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should i take i7 9700k or i9 9900k

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pros cons

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please

astral tiger Nov 27, 2020, 12:32 PM

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@dusk vessel whats your workload

fickle flax Nov 27, 2020, 12:39 PM

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solemn vault should i get the gigabyte b450m board or asrock b450m pro 4 board

which gigabyte b450? the ds3h?

dusk vessel Nov 27, 2020, 1:04 PM

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@astral tiger what so u mean

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do *

hollow bluff Nov 27, 2020, 1:27 PM

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i wanna do a stress test on my cpu but im not sure which program to use

bold hedge Nov 27, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Anyone know if there's a Mobo that supports WiFi 6?The one I was going to get only has WiFi 5

worthy dome Nov 27, 2020, 2:56 PM

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bold hedge Anyone know if there's a Mobo that supports WiFi 6?The one I was going to get on...

There’s tons lol just go on pcpp and select the checkmark in filters that says wifi 6

deft helm Nov 27, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Hello I am currently in my MSI x570 gaming edge WiFi motherboard and there is a setting a-XMP, which I’m assuming is XMP. But it has a 2 and a 1 setting. Which should I choose? I am using Corsair vengeance ram I believe.

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spare gyro Nov 27, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Anyone get ddr4 4000 running on Zen3?

deft helm Nov 27, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Update: tried both profiles and neither got me past 2133 in task manager

cinder sphinx Nov 27, 2020, 3:49 PM

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How do I update bios without cpu, gpu, rams? Just plug in to PSU and update bios? My msi mag x570 tomahawk wifi will be shipped in a few days. Still waiting for my 5900x and rtx3080.

runic quest Nov 27, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Hey all, I have motherboard ASRock b450m/ac; i want to buy a new SSD but i don't know which is compatible. Can anyone point me in the right direction? It came with a 512 ssd and i'd like to add a 2tb in addition

fickle flax Nov 27, 2020, 4:03 PM

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@runic quest #storage-devices

runic quest Nov 27, 2020, 4:03 PM

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thanks

autumn fossil Nov 27, 2020, 4:07 PM

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what is a good 6+ core processor i should cop?

bitter smelt Nov 27, 2020, 4:12 PM

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what is the difference between those items? https://www.newegg.com/global/il-en/Product/Productcompare?CompareItemList=20-232-880%2C20-232-195&compareall=true

violet zealot Nov 27, 2020, 4:14 PM

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The timings are tighter on the more expensive one

bitter smelt Nov 27, 2020, 4:15 PM

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is it a big difference? will I notice it?

violet zealot Nov 27, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Uh, probably not

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There's a chance it's higher quality memory in general that could be tweaked further, but I can't say that for sure

topaz atlas Nov 27, 2020, 5:02 PM

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@autumn fossil 10400f or 5 3600

autumn fossil Nov 27, 2020, 5:03 PM

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the 3600 are either sold out, or more expensive than they should be @topaz atlas

topaz atlas Nov 27, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Then go for the 10400f

autumn fossil Nov 27, 2020, 5:03 PM

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i found a 3600 for $169

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but it sold out :/

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alright cool

topaz atlas Nov 27, 2020, 5:04 PM

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10400f is LGA 1200 so a Asrock Pro4 or B460 Torpedo

violet zealot Nov 27, 2020, 5:06 PM

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So something you might not have heard about is if you don't have a high end chipset for Intel, the Z board basically: it limits your RAM speeds depending on the CPU used i5 specifically gets limited to 2666Mhz. This hurts the performance more than you might think, there's comparisons if you're curious

tacit dagger Nov 27, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Does anyone knows if this motherboard ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) ATX Motherboard needs an older cpu to install bios update? I saw it on Newegg you can do it without the cpu/memory install, but I dont see the q-flash buttons or bios usb port.

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thanks

violet zealot Nov 27, 2020, 5:15 PM

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From what I can tell that board does not have the feature to flash the bios without a cpu

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Though, pretty much any new shipment from the factory will have an up to date bios

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Not easy to tell when you're shopping online though, you could get old stock

tacit dagger Nov 27, 2020, 5:24 PM

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assuming i get the old stock, will i be able to use 5000 series amd cpu first and log in to window then do a update form there? or I need an older amd cup to start?

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thanks!

violet zealot Nov 27, 2020, 5:25 PM

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The bios update isn't done in windows

deft helm Nov 27, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Anyone here experienced with MSI Bios?

tacit dagger Nov 27, 2020, 5:25 PM

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i know, but i need a complete pc first to do bios update? no?

violet zealot Nov 27, 2020, 5:25 PM

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It's done in the bios, and you won't be able to boot into the bios with a cpu that isn't compatible

tacit dagger Nov 27, 2020, 5:26 PM

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ahhh

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damn....

deft helm Nov 27, 2020, 5:26 PM

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I turned xmp on profile 1, and it didnt set my ram past 2133 in task manager. I then tried profile 2, and it still didnt set me past 2133

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used with a 3600 on a x570

violet zealot Nov 27, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Most likely, cause it's been a while and everyone's been buying stuff; you'll probably get one with a new bios

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Maybe look at B550 motherboards that have a bios flash feature though

tacit dagger Nov 27, 2020, 5:27 PM

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i will hold off motherboard for a while. I need to wait fot amd cpu and gpu anyway.thanks Demonio

violet zealot Nov 27, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Just in case, you'll probably get it for a better deal anyway

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Like this one, this has a bios flash feature https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-carbon-wifi/p/N82E16813144322

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It's pretty much the same price too

frigid raven Nov 27, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Asus b550-f or msi b550 gaming plus

sour coyote Nov 27, 2020, 7:13 PM

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theres a guy ready to sell me a 5600x for 550 CAD

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brand new unopened

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what do you guys think

prisma nymph Nov 27, 2020, 7:17 PM

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its supposed to be around $400 msr, right?

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yea, an extra $150 isnt worth

gritty patio Nov 27, 2020, 7:18 PM

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$300 usd

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That's a lot

sour coyote Nov 27, 2020, 7:29 PM

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on newwegg its 450 cad

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but all the bots get them

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theres another seller that sells the 5600x (aero malls) for 530 cad

sour coyote Nov 27, 2020, 7:30 PM

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prisma nymph its supposed to be around $400 msr, right?

there are no shop at all that sells the 5600x at this price

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prisma nymph Nov 27, 2020, 7:31 PM

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i thought i saw like $410 at canada computers

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well yea, that because its out of stock obv

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like, they're showing the 3600 for $500

sour coyote Nov 27, 2020, 7:31 PM

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yes but they never got restocks for a while and dont give notifications

prisma nymph Nov 27, 2020, 7:31 PM

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you think that price is gonna be the same once theres actually stock?

sour coyote Nov 27, 2020, 7:32 PM

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the real question is when will there be stock?

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supposedly amd is pilling up on stocks but no legit proofs of that

burnt ocean Nov 27, 2020, 7:32 PM

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if my main use for a strong cpu is console emulation should i just get a 3700x instead of tearing my hair out and paying more for a 5600x?

violet zealot Nov 27, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Either would be fine, but it isn't worth overpaying in general so

safe geode Nov 27, 2020, 8:47 PM

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if the ram i am planning to order is not on the qvl should i be looking at different ram or is it fine?

deft helm Nov 27, 2020, 8:52 PM

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What the ram and what’s the motherboard

safe geode Nov 27, 2020, 8:56 PM

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asus tuf x570 gaming plus probably with crucial 32 gb 3600 c16 from b and h

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its not on the qvl so

charred venture Nov 27, 2020, 9:13 PM

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99% should be fine

bitter oak Nov 27, 2020, 9:16 PM

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can someone explain the hype to me around this dark hero thing? I get that it's low supply, but what's so special about a specific mobo that it's so talked about?

sour coyote Nov 27, 2020, 9:30 PM

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passively cooled chipset

bitter oak Nov 27, 2020, 9:31 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/pepe-frog-cave-gif-14781630

Tenor

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so it keeps the cpu cooler?

tribal harbor Nov 27, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Hey gents. I am brand new to the concept of upgrading a computer. I am seeking to upgrade my Gateway DX4375. I know the form factor is DTX. I also know that the current processor is I believe an A5200. I think the current bus speed is 3300. That is about the extent of my knowlege atm..

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I know i will need mobo/cpu and ram. As far as anything else..it may be an added bonus if i can get in under $250.00

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I also considered adding a 250 gig SSD.

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I desire at least 16 gig ram. I have a NVidia GEFORCE 1080x sitting in wait. I believe its pcie.

deft helm Nov 27, 2020, 9:45 PM

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I don’t even know what a gateway 4375 is but DTX is a dead platform

tribal harbor Nov 27, 2020, 9:51 PM

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well, could i use mini ATX in its place??

neat estuary Nov 27, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Your really looking at a complete system rebuild.. I wouldnt bother with upgradeing.. But the 1080 is a great card

tribal harbor Nov 27, 2020, 9:53 PM

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I guess i could scrap the case and buy a cheapy $30.00 case..lol Then i could use a basic ATX..right??