#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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cursive quest
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I think it has everything, there might be a reason why it's so much cheaper that I missed

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Also, my mobo is not decided on at all, I'm not even sure what chipset I should do

modest ice
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You might want to check your local used market for a GPU

heady cliff
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Ok

cursive quest
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I already got a refurbished gpu

modest ice
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That's the most expensive part of your pc and not exactly the best

cursive quest
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I bought my gpu for 229 and it's fine for me

modest ice
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Ok

cursive quest
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I dont need that much gpu power

modest ice
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Davinci benefits from your gpu also

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But if you're happy with it then good

cursive quest
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Yeah, I know I could upgrade but I'm fine with that

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I should probably do a different mobo though

modest ice
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Nah what I was suggesting was a mining 1070ti or something

chilly goblet
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whats a mining 1070 ti

cursive quest
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1070 ti that's for mining

modest ice
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It's a guy on kijiji who for some reason is selling 12 identical 1070ti's

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And he swears they were never used for mining

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(they were definitely used for mining)

cursive quest
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He just needs 12 for sli which wouldn't even work

hallow frigate
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I mean, im building a new PC, im willing to part it out for cheap and help out others

modest ice
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Yeah

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"It came in the wrong colour"

cursive quest
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Lol

heady cliff
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It's a bit above but with deals and what not should work for your budget

cursive quest
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I cant go above at all, but it might work cause I'm getting a lot of the parts on black Friday

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And my gpu is already purchased for less than in the list

modest ice
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Man I wish I could boost your buying power. You remind me of me.

heady cliff
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Look at this

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36 above

cursive quest
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I can subtract 34 cause I bought the gpu

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So 2 above

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That could definitely work

heady cliff
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And it fits 32 GB of ram

cursive quest
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And 3600 speed

heady cliff
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But 18 cs

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Cl

hallow frigate
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@cursive quest I'll sell you a 2month old ryzen 9 3900x for $325 if u want it

cursive quest
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That's a good deal, but I dont know if I can fit my budget around it

heady cliff
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Sorry to say but that's sus

hallow frigate
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why would it be?

cursive quest
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I dont have a reason not to trust you, or a reason to trust you

hallow frigate
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getting 5900x on thurs, getting rid of it

heady cliff
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How would the money get transferred

hallow frigate
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whatever way buyer would be comfy with

heady cliff
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Then sell it this is not the place

cursive quest
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Yeah, and I wouldn't know if it's actually getting sent to me or I got scammed

tough wyvern
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well, first you start an escrow account....

hallow frigate
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im not here to sell it just trying to help someone out

cursive quest
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I cant afford it anyway lol

hallow frigate
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all good bro

heady cliff
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The budget barely fit a 3600

cursive quest
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And the 3600 is pretty overkill for what I'm doing

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I gotta go to bed now

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Before I spend all night making pc part lists

hallow frigate
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so ne1 know when newegg gonna list the ryzen 5000's on their site?

modest ice
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I wondering that too

hallow frigate
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or like what time exactly

modest ice
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Extactly why I'm here rn

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dunno

hallow frigate
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i called microcenter today, they told me they will only do instore pick up and stock is "sufficient" (dallas)

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whatever that means, but hoping they have a lot

tough wyvern
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I managed to get that day off work thankfully, but yes, time would be good. Don't much like the idea of checking website every hour from midnight on...

gritty meadow
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@tough wyvern fair chance we will have launch times when the reviews drop

tough wyvern
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Would be nice. I know we had them for 3070s

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I also enlisted family to help try and get me one, so I need to be able to tell then when to wakeup and start clicking 😄

modest ice
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You'll end up with four 5900Xs

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Everyone will be happy for you

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Except you

hallow frigate
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lol

tough wyvern
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Hah, nah, can always cancel extras, or just resell them (at cost)

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I doubt lots of extras will be a problem though if this is even remotely like everything else has been this year.

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I just hope stock lasts more then a minute so it's not an absolute absurd crush

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I want the 5900, but I'll settle for a 5950 if it's all I can get. Not sure which will actually sell out faster though.

modest ice
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LAst time it was the 3900X that got blasted into oblivion

tough wyvern
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Think it makes more sense to try for the 5950 first then if it'll (maybe) be up for longer?

modest ice
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I think you should go for what you actually want first

tough wyvern
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A computer that turns on lol

modest ice
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If that's your only requirement may I suggest a FX 4100?

tough wyvern
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pish, not an Athlon 64?

modest ice
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If you can find one

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You'll be able to play fun games such as "Boot into windows" and "Ms calc"

tough wyvern
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Not ture. I can still go play UT2k4

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And Dungeon Siege

zealous ermine
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I was thinking of saving some money and buying a b450 motherboard and just updating the bios for a 3600

modest ice
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I'm pretty sure after the windows update you won't have the memory capacity for that

heady root
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b550 is just as affordable

tough wyvern
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Well, I have a 3600 on order. If I can't get my 5900 or 5950x I'll just use that until they come back in stock. The RTX 30s have taught me to have a plan B

modest ice
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I only have a plan A

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5900x and 6800XT

heady root
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i'm getting 56 3600 + 3070

tough wyvern
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Plan A for AMD?

heady root
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r5*

modest ice
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It might not manifest until january and that's okay

ember knot
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Wouldn't the 5800x be enough for a 6800xt?

modest ice
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For the first time in my life I'll have exactly the PC I want

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No more of that compromise PC build

ember knot
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Daaaaamn

hallow frigate
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i like bluekoalas plan 🙂

tough wyvern
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Mine is more or less that. I'd rather have a 3090 then a 3080, rather have a threadripper then a Ryzen, etc.

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But It's still very close

ember knot
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I like his plan too

heady root
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3090 ew

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6900xt

ember knot
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I was planning on getting the 5800x, but now I'm tempted for the 5900x and 6800xt combo

tough wyvern
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3090 has more memory.

hallow frigate
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go big or go home mocco

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haha

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if i cant get 5900x then 5950 will do

heady root
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even if you're in 4k you don't need that much vram

ember knot
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Lmao

tough wyvern
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not everything is games.

heady root
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but i can understand for work or whatever

ember knot
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ur trying to empty my wallet or something

zealous ermine
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I’m doing b450 because I found a really nice motherboard for just $80 that with the b550 version costs $160

heady root
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^^

zealous ermine
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Which is nice

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I don’t mind doing the bios update

hallow frigate
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but dont u want that SAM compatiblity

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need 550+

zealous ermine
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My $1500 build just became $1400

modest ice
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Nice

ember knot
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I forgot I wanted to ask something about my X570 mobo

heady root
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what's the components of your $1500 build mystifying?

ember knot
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I accidently bought a one without wifi thingy, and I have no way of getting ethernet cable to my room, is there a way to solve this problem other than drilling holes into my house?

chilly goblet
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yes

ember knot
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Like is there a reliable dongle attachment that I could use?

hallow frigate
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just get a wifi pci adapter card

chilly goblet
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there are wifi usb thingy

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u can use

zealous ermine
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I’ll get pc part picker list

ember knot
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Hmmm

chilly goblet
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i use them too

ember knot
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Are they okay?

chilly goblet
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yes

hallow frigate
zealous ermine
ember knot
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That thing is chonkey

heady root
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seems a little expensive for an adapter

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from what i've seen

zealous ermine
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That’s my build

hallow frigate
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i got 400mbps and this card got me to 400mbps

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over wifi so was worth

ember knot
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Daaamn

chilly goblet
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i use this

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its cheap and it works

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ok

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u get ur full wifi speed

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just put it in the usb slot

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and it works instantly

modest ice
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It says in title only 150mbps

chilly goblet
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there are other models too

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im pretty sure

ember knot
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Hmmmmm

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Oh yeah there are

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N300 and what not

chilly goblet
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yea

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u can also just search wifi adapter

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on amazon

ember knot
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Mmhmm

chilly goblet
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u get sooo many options

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based on ur budget

modest ice
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Buy a powerline adapter

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It's like 50$

heady root
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it's what I would do

ember knot
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I'm not going to be playing competitive games or anything so maybe that cheap option will work?

heady root
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saves a bit more

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just need to get an exhaust fan

zealous ermine
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I’ll look at it

chilly goblet
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not so great ofr budget build

hallow frigate
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well i mean what you paying for from ISP

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or what speed you getting

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dont you want to be able to get all of that, gotta have a wifi card that can support it

chilly goblet
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yea true

zealous ermine
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I’m liking that build but the only thing I want back is the Corsair case

ember knot
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Makes sense

heady root
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you can just switch it

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I only did it to save money on fans

ember knot
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I should look into it tmr

zealous ermine
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Hm

ember knot
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Thanks anyhow!

zealous ermine
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I’ll think about it

heady root
zealous ermine
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I will

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I have a lot of time to refine this build

amber sandal
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I flashed my bios

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today

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I hope I didn't mess it up

zealous ermine
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Just as long as your power doesn’t go out

amber sandal
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okay good

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the rgb on the mobo is still on

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but no CPU so can't post

modest ice
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You flashed your mobo with no CPU in socket?

amber sandal
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yes

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it has bios flashback button

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for Ryzen 500/

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5000*

cedar harbor
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could you still brick your mobo from a bios flash?

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flasjback*

steady forge
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^?

graceful elm
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should i go for ryzen 5900x or 5800x

silent sandal
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Do you need the extra cores

timid stratus
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i personally am going for the 5900x

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if ur already shelliing out that type of money spend the extra 100 for the cores

silent sandal
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Only if you actually need them

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Most people don’t need them

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So they’re wasting the extra 100

jagged pier
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wait for the xt

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:^)

loud escarp
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You guys think I should upgrade to 3600 or 4000 memory with new ryzen or stick with my 3200?

main pulsar
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what kit?

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3200 is good enough tho, im sure if you wanted to you could OC the memory you have now to 3600

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just depends on the kit

loud escarp
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I'm running 3200 cl16 gskill trident rgb

main pulsar
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yeah its good

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if you would want to you could try overclocking it

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but that speed is definetly good enough

loud escarp
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Ok, i havent messed with memory yet except xmp so I wouldnt know how to start trying to screw with it

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Jay would have a guide to that right, or am I thinking of Steve?

modest fiber
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yeah thats cool, but do you have ddr3 that your cpu wont allow to run over 1333mhz? i dont think so

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now THAT is cool

torn crypt
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so i have an x470 mother board and i have red leds slowly pulsing above my ram and gpu

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are they just indicators?

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because theyre reading in my system fine and i have 0 issues booting

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no heat issues either

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ive already looked it up online and its kinda hard to tell

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nothing in the manual either

cinder sphinx
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hello.. can i ask you guys which x570 mobo would be good/perfect for the upcoming ryzen 5900x/5950x?

naive pendant
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i have 3 questions

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is the intel core i5 9400f a good cpu

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is oloy a reliable brand for ram

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2 questions

whole oak
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@naive pendant Linus😒

naive pendant
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Thats king linus for you.

whole oak
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Are you the "DBRAND SKIN LINUS"?

cobalt shore
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I didn't realize people still went around skinning eachother s\

whole oak
naive pendant
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Buy LTT store water bottles now.

whole oak
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No

steady forge
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no

naive pendant
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Premium water bottles.

whole oak
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You didn't see this segway coming to our sponsor Newegg

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Linus while dying

naive pendant
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Trash sponsors dont get discloed

whole oak
steady forge
naive pendant
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Fools.

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no

whole oak
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Is ouclus quest 2 worth buying?

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😅

naive pendant
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Nothing is worth buying.

whole oak
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Bruh

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Big Navi!

naive pendant
whole oak
naive pendant
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no

whole oak
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😂

naive pendant
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Fool.

whole oak
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Liunus Tach Tups

naive pendant
whole oak
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Nope

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The insulated one

naive pendant
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Kool aid man signing off.

steady forge
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bye

whole oak
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@bye

naive pendant
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Fools.

whole oak
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Bruh

steady forge
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bruh

whole oak
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Linus be like get 3090's for our pyramid pc
Meanwhile AMD "BIG NAVI"

naive pendant
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Fools.

whole oak
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You fool "LINUS"

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Or I mean @naive pendant

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😅

ruby epoch
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Hey guys I don't know if this is the place to ask, but does anyone knows the release time for the ryzen 5000 series?

vague siren
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I believe that no one knows yet and that we should get more information today

fallen lynx
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nothing more specific than just "tomorrow"

vast granite
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That means atm up all night

green terrace
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If you don’t know a time, neither do scalpers 🙂

vast granite
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But the bots do cuz they just goooo

vague siren
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And not everyone has time to sit at a computer all day pressing refresh every two seconds

summer abyss
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does anyone know why my game is only taking 2gb of ram when its supposed to take like 5 or 6

vague siren
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So itd be nice knowing what time itll come out

summer abyss
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its causing my game to stutter

pastel monolith
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directx 12?

summer abyss
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on MHW yes

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im using DX12

pastel monolith
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try DX11 and see if the stutter ram thing goes away

spring scarab
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do you guys expect the 3600 ryzen to drop price much with the new releases tomorrow?

main pulsar
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nope

spring scarab
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nope
@main pulsar im sort of glad to hear that i rly want to go grab one today... i only plan on doing 60hz anyway with 4k for a lil while

main pulsar
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if you wait for the new cpus to drop, then you can snag one of the many 3600 that will inevitably be listed on ebay for dirt cheap

spring scarab
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ah i just hate used tho

main pulsar
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why?

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its being pulled right out of a working system

spring scarab
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thats a good tip for others. i dont trust it/ebay. id rather get the money together

main pulsar
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ive been using ebay for a loooong time, as long as you know what you are doing, you will never get scammed

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i never have

spring scarab
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heh one time i used ebay teh seller used fake pics of a real product and sold me a knockoff

main pulsar
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i have ebay parts that i used, that i have given to others and they are still using

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gotta watch out for those things

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theres gonna be literally thousands of people upgrading from their 3600

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so many are gonna end up on ebay for dirt cheap

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like, 120 cheap

spring scarab
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maybe ill try and wait its just a day xD. but also about 60 bucvks extra for new and in the box doesnt sound bad (microcenter price at least)

main pulsar
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yeah, but listings for them wont pop up untill at least a week after tomorrow

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so if you really do need it now, then getting it now is fine

spring scarab
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i have a 3080 FTW ultra coming in mail and i want to try and get a pc ready for it, when it comes in but i /could/ wait

main pulsar
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well, at 4k60, the 3600 is a totally fine choice

spring scarab
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i was expected suprise at the combo cheaping out on the processor haha

main pulsar
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no reason to get 5600x

silent sandal
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I bought one thing on eBay

spring scarab
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im pretty noob idk how id even update the bios on the board to be compatible with 5000 series (especially without a processor already...)

silent sandal
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And it worked

hollow kraken
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what would be a good mobo for a test bench?

main pulsar
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500 series boards work out of box with 5000 series cpus

spring scarab
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oh that makes sense idk i thought i heard otherwise once tho. ty for your help btw

main pulsar
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np

hollow kraken
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dont update ur bios for 5000 series just yet, you might brick your mobo and wont be able to use your existing cpu you cant revert back to the old bios as well

main pulsar
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if you are using a b450 or x470 board, then yes

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but B550 and X570 dont need bios update, unless you are buying a much older used one

spring scarab
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dont update ur bios for 5000 series just yet, you might brick your mobo and wont be able to use your existing cpu you cant revert back to the old bios as well
@hollow kraken luckily i plan on getting the strix rog 570e so it should be good based on sassyfish, ty for warning tho thats scary

main pulsar
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?

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why such an expensive board?

hollow kraken
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ikr

spring scarab
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hdmi 2.0 wifi 6

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pcie 4 for 3080

hollow kraken
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there are cheaper boards with the same stuff

main pulsar
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those are all features you can find on cheaper B550 boards

hollow kraken
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and cheaper x570 boards

spring scarab
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safe slot, nvme 4.0

silent sandal
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Lots of boards have that

hollow kraken
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still on most boards

main pulsar
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do you have a wifi 6 router?? @spring scarab

silent sandal
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Rog strix is too $$$

hollow kraken
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rog strix is overpriced

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get msi or something is or gigabyte

spring scarab
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Rog strix is too $$$
@silent sandal im already getting the ftw3 ultra so aethsetics are considered, but ill look at otehr boards

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from what ive heard about MSI, they can F off lol

silent sandal
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Uh what

hollow kraken
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i kinda beg to differ WHAT?

spring scarab
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do you have a wifi 6 router?? @spring scarab
@main pulsar no but expect to

silent sandal
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Try hearing again then

main pulsar
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youre gonna pay 200+ for a router?

silent sandal
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Cause that’s way off

hollow kraken
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where the hell did you hear that?

silent sandal
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^

hollow kraken
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what biostar?

spring scarab
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gamernexus catalogued numerous terrible behaviors of MSI. go to youtube to check if you want

hollow kraken
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owned by msi yes but msi had nothing to do with that

spring scarab
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numerous

hollow kraken
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yea biostar

main pulsar
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yeah we know all that, that doesnt change the quality of each MSI product

spring scarab
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not the scalping

main pulsar
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there are MSI products that GN has rated highly

spring scarab
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lying about products and pretending they dont realize there defective, selling anyways

main pulsar
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are they suddenly bad?

hollow kraken
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that changed

spring scarab
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threatening reviewers

hollow kraken
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he didnt say SCREW MSI

spring scarab
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they threaten reviewers

hollow kraken
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they dont

silent sandal
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I’m sorry but I doubt that

main pulsar
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bruh, just pretend that all companies are pure evil and corrupt when you are looking to build a pc

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ez

hollow kraken
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i used to review their stuff a lot since they asked me i never got blackmailed or some other stuff

spring scarab
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yeah when i say one is thats what im doing

silent sandal
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All companies are pure evil and corrupt

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So that’s easy

main pulsar
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i mean yeah

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just because you havent heard about it doesnt mean things are not happening

hollow kraken
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msi isnt that shady compared to other companies

main pulsar
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what case are you looking at @spring scarab

spring scarab
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lian li lancool II mesh, they still have them for msrp at my local microcenter

hollow thorn
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TD500 mesh is nice

summer abyss
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alot of my ram seems to be on standby I already used rammap to free the standby ram and it kinda just goes back after a while its causing some of my games to stutter

main pulsar
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and why do you need PCIe gen 4?

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i see no reason, unless you are overpaying for an ssd

silent sandal
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Like me

spring scarab
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i dont /need/ it but i plan to get gen 4 ssd in future upgrade. i work in data analysis

main pulsar
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i see

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so gigantic datasets?

spring scarab
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pretty big but not gigantic i guess

main pulsar
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just organizing/analyzing, or like calculations on datasets

spring scarab
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the benefit may not be worth it tbh. both

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i use R

west dock
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does anyone know when the AMD 5000 series gonna be up on newegg.com?

silent sandal
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Never

main pulsar
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the 5600x and its single core performance might be the better option. of your work is highly multithreaded, then something like the 3900x might be beneficial

spring scarab
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the 5600x and its single core performance might be the better option. of your work is highly multithreaded, then something like the 3900x might be beneficial
@main pulsar not optimized for multithreaded in my coding. i think ill just try and wait

main pulsar
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R runs as a single task. It is possible that some of the the support
functions (notably the BLAS) can be multithreaded, and this will often
(but not always) help if the task is intensive numerical linear algebra.
But even if a multithreaded BLAS is used (and it is not the default
build), the effect on a typical R task is very small.

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this is semi meaningless to me

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but it seems like it is not very multithreaded

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either the 3600 or 5600x would be good, the 5600x wont make a huge difference in games, but will speed up tasks, such as R

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whether or not that speed increase is worth 100 is dependant on how much your time is worth

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how often does your system spend running R?

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also, do you ever find yourself waiting for R to complete whatever task has been assigned to it in order to continue working?

spring scarab
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def depends on the month, project based/contract work typically and fairly variable. higher use cases when analyzing a data set and not writing up about it could get to 3+ hours of script running. Not so bad to walk away and come back between necessarily for now

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to be honest my use case isnt super intense

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i just want to spoil myself :x

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looking at cheaper mobos now tho

silent sandal
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How much was that mobo?

main pulsar
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ill find you a mobo dont worry

spring scarab
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299 for the one i was looking at b4, highly stylized tho. partially wanted it cause it looked semi-noob friendly

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1st build

main pulsar
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so i assume you will be running possibly more than one gen 4 ssd in the future?

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b550 gives one pcie gen 4 ssd slot, x570 can give around 3

naive pendant
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im soo confussed btwn b450 and b550

spring scarab
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id probably be fine with a single 2tb one actually

hollow thorn
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B550>B450

main pulsar
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has to do with PCIe support, other IO interfaces, and cpu support

hollow thorn
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simple

silent sandal
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I got the Asus prime x570 and kinda wish I got a cheaper one

main pulsar
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ok, so b550 is still an option

naive pendant
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lol

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i mean what better options does it have?

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cuz its costlier than b450

hollow thorn
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Let's grab specifics

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what specific B450 board

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gimme a model

naive pendant
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alr8

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1 min

hollow thorn
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let's not do b450m ds3h

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because the answer is extremely simple with that

silent sandal
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You can get a good b550 for $100

hollow thorn
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mhm

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that's why I wanted them to grab specifics

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so I can tell them specifically what's better

main pulsar
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any of these boards will work

hollow thorn
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they want wifi..?

spring scarab
main pulsar
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wifi 6

hollow thorn
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why wifi 6

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just why xd

main pulsar
#

they getting ax router

hollow thorn
#

do they have gigabyte wifi speeds

main pulsar
#

idk

hollow thorn
#

because if they don't

#

ax useless

#

also I don't think any b450 has built in wifi 6 anyways

spring scarab
#

interesting

#

maybe ill disable that

silent sandal
#

Almost all of those are over $200

hollow thorn
#

Aorus elite ax isn't bad

main pulsar
#

@spring scarab whats your internet service plan like

hollow thorn
devout mothBOT
#
MKUltra#8965 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

naive pendant
#

GIGABYTE B450M DS3H AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

main pulsar
naive pendant
#

@hollow thorn

main pulsar
#

i know we all hate our isps

hollow thorn
main pulsar
#

but please refrain from using foul language lmao

naive pendant
#

uh

hollow thorn
#

I kind of don't even have to check

naive pendant
#

mk

hollow thorn
#

I just know, horrible audio chip, bad vrms, single m.2 NVMe

#

PCIe 3.0 on all lanes

silent sandal
#

I have the best interest I can get and it’s still bad

naive pendant
#

oof

hollow thorn
#

not good io

#

lemme get even more specifics

silent sandal
#

There’s only 1 viable internet service provider, and their best option still doesn’t work well

main pulsar
#

yea it be like that

silent sandal
#

Overpaying for the best, but still crappy, internet

hollow thorn
#

I'm going to go down the list now @naive pendant

#

No debug LED on ds3h

naive pendant
#

lmao I guess I'd have to rip ds3h apart
didnt see that..

hollow thorn
#

smaller bios chip for whatever that is worth

naive pendant
#

omg

hollow thorn
#

lower supported ram freq

naive pendant
#

thats wrecking my list lmao

hollow thorn
#

holy

naive pendant
#

3200?

hollow thorn
#

B450m ds3h doesn't even have PCIe 3.0 on all lanes lmfaooo

#

lists support only up to 2933mhz

#

kinda sucks

#

B550 phantom gaming 4 lists up to 4533mhz+

naive pendant
#

woh

hollow thorn
#

@main pulsar why the hell does the DS3h use PCIe 2.0 on the second x16 slot?

#

wait x4 slot

#

or whatever

#

I don't get it

main pulsar
#

prolly budget reasons, plus not many other devices aside from gpus and ssds even use 3.0

hollow thorn
#

B450 chipset lanes should be pcie 3.0

#

so I don't get how they got 2.0 in there

main pulsar
#

gigabit network cards only need like 1x 2.0

hollow thorn
main pulsar
#

or something like that

hollow thorn
#

oh well

silent sandal
#

B550 phantom gaming 4 is a solid board

spring scarab
#

so if it has 1 pcie.4 thats not good for the 3080 i want two right?

hollow thorn
#

mhm

#

what

#

how do you

#

need 2 slots

#

for a single card

#

???

spring scarab
#

its a two slot desing

hollow thorn
#

That's the size

main pulsar
#

b550 and x570 have 1 x16 4.0 and 1 4.0 M.2 for ssds

hollow thorn
#

I don't know of any GPUs that take more than 1 PCIe slot

main pulsar
#

x570 has additional 4.0

spring scarab
#

oh my bad lol

#

im dumb >.>

hollow thorn
#

anyways

#

@naive pendant gimme your list

#

I edit

spring scarab
#

x570 has additional 4.0
@main pulsar well ive come down at least 100$ on my purchase so far ty agan

hollow thorn
#

@main pulsar nah

main pulsar
#

because it checks all your boxes

hollow thorn
#

pg4/ac takes a m.2 slot off for whatever reason

#

I don't know why

#

it only has 1 m.2 b/m slot

main pulsar
#

does it not have 2?

#

i literally have it filtering for 2 m.2 slots

hollow thorn
silent sandal
#

My board has 2 slots that I can put storage in, so I’m good lol

main pulsar
#

booooo

cinder sphinx
#

hello. can i ask something. i see many people recommended msi mag tomahawk x570 wifi. is it really a good mobo? any other x570 is good to go with rtx3080 and the upcoming ryzen 5900x?

naive pendant
#

@naive pendant gimme your list
k

#

tis a low budget list to just upgrade my older pc

#

like really low

hollow thorn
#

idc what your budget is

#

as long as it's above 600$

#

I can make it work

#

if it's <600$, I can make it work with used parts

silent sandal
#

What if it’s 2.5k

naive pendant
#

@hollow thorn

vast granite
#

dang i wish i have that extra .5 for my build @silent sandal

hollow thorn
naive pendant
#

check da link??

hollow thorn
#

newegg doesn't like to work

naive pendant
#

umm k..

#

wdym?

#

doesnt like to work?? lol

vast granite
#

it just lead to the build computer page no build there

hollow thorn
#

just redirects me to the base pc builder page for the newegg pc builder

#

@naive pendant Newegg's pc builder still kinda bad

naive pendant
#

oh

silent sandal
#

My budget is 2.5k

#

What board

hollow thorn
#

2.5k?

#

hm

silent sandal
#

Usd

hollow thorn
#

3090 or 3080 build

silent sandal
#

3080

hollow thorn
#

and 2.5k for the whole pc?

silent sandal
#

Yes

hollow thorn
#

might be a x570 unify time

silent sandal
#

(Not including monitor or peripherals)

#

Already got those

naive pendant
#

You're not recommending a 6800xt?

silent sandal
#

No

main pulsar
#

@spring scarab 2tb of gen 4 storage is gonna cost you like 400 usd btw

#

would 1tb suffice

spring scarab
#

@spring scarab 2tb of gen 4 storage is gonna cost you like 400 usd btw
@main pulsar im just gonna grab a 500gb intermediary gen 3 i think, esp if i end up getting 2 slots

main pulsar
#

yeah ik, but im thinking in the future

spring scarab
#

looking at Gigabyte B550 AORUS Pro AC AMD AM4 ATX Motherboard now

main pulsar
#

ive already picked out the SN750 500gb

#

good ssd

#

im looking at the AORUS ELITE

silent sandal
#

In the future, gen 4 won’t be as expensive

spring scarab
#

yeah i want to wait it out a bit

bleak pebble
#

I got a b450 mobo

spring scarab
#

no onboard wifi on the elite eh

bleak pebble
#

because i didnt need gen 4 speeds so i put that money towards a better gpu

main pulsar
#

elite has wifi

silent sandal
#

Why do you want the on board wifi?

bleak pebble
#

u dont need wifi if u have ethernet

silent sandal
#

^

spring scarab
#

i dont right now tbh

#

it sucks

main pulsar
#

tada

spring scarab
#

❤️

bleak pebble
#

dude 3080 i 700 dollars

main pulsar
#

he already bought it

bleak pebble
#

why u put that in list \

spring scarab
#

i gess 32gb ram is good enough for everything for forseeable future, was thinking initially i might do 16x2

bleak pebble
#

oh ok if he bought it its fine

#

if ur doing rgb ram do 8 by 4

spring scarab
#

i have a 3080 ftw3 ultra coming xD im trying to cheap out on the rest a little

main pulsar
#

theres no real difference between 2x16 and 4x8, that board is good enough to handle both

bleak pebble
#

im waiting for bug navi benchmarks

#

from reviewers

main pulsar
#

the differences come down to other issues with cheaper boards

#

but i understand if you think you may need 64 in the future

bleak pebble
#

yeah cause sheaper boards have ass vrms

main pulsar
#

nope

#

not what i was thinking

bleak pebble
#

oh lol

main pulsar
#

was talking about memory configs

bleak pebble
#

but some cheaper boards might have only 2 dim slots

main pulsar
#

vrms have nothing to do with that

#

thats part of it

bleak pebble
#

ik

silent sandal
#

Purple name peaced the frick out

bleak pebble
#

mine has 4 slots and im mostly gaming so im fine with it i have 16 gigs of ram

main pulsar
#

he lurks

hollow thorn
#

4x8 doesn't make sense to me

main pulsar
#

looks cool

hollow thorn
#

2x16 just better

#

@silent sandal I'm still here

bleak pebble
#

4 x 8 looks better with rgb

main pulsar
#

in this scenario, they are the same

bleak pebble
#

ye

#

its based on ur preference

silent sandal
#

2x16

bleak pebble
#

4 x 8

hollow thorn
#

2x16 upgradability

silent sandal
#

^

bleak pebble
#

ye

main pulsar
#

board can handle 4 dimms at 3600 CL 16, and at that point the difference between 4 ranks of 8 chips and 4 ranks of 8 chips is nil

#

but yes, upgradability

bleak pebble
#

is it tru that r5 5600x better than 10900k in gaming

main pulsar
#

we dont know

bleak pebble
#

just a leak

main pulsar
#

we know that its better than 3600 at gaming

bleak pebble
#

no reall

#

really

silent sandal
#

I wouldn’t trust leaks like that

main pulsar
#

10600k better for gaming than 10900k imo

bleak pebble
#

ik just speculating reviews should come out today or tomorrow

main pulsar
#

5600x competing with 10600k

bleak pebble
#

ye

main pulsar
#

10600k is 275

bleak pebble
#

i think more people would go for 3600 because it will recieve a price drop

main pulsar
#

so it absolutly must outperform the 10600k

bleak pebble
#

and upgrade ltr

main pulsar
#

im banking on the 5600x besting the 10600k, hence why i suggest it

bleak pebble
#

im with u bro

main pulsar
#

of course, the 3600 already beats the 10600k in everything aside form gaming

bleak pebble
#

what do u think about rocket lake cpus

silent sandal
#

I’m banking on 5900x not being a waste of money

main pulsar
#

kek

bleak pebble
#

but 3900x already beat i9 in multithreaded tasks

main pulsar
#

i dont know anything on rocket or alder lake

#

but i do know that the whole -lake thing is getting old

bleak pebble
#

ye

silent sandal
#

Truth

bleak pebble
#

also 14+++++ is getting old

main pulsar
#

rocket and alder are supposed to be lga 1700 iirc

#

11th gen was something else

silent sandal
#

I’m hoping for some big thing from intel with these next cpus

bleak pebble
#

no intel said 11th and 10th gen boards are compatible with eachother

main pulsar
#

oh, Rocket Lake-S is 1200

#

so alder lake is 1700

#

early 2021 pog

bleak pebble
#

im not expecting big things amd hs 5nm next year

silent sandal
#

Not expecting, but hoping

bleak pebble
#

ye

silent sandal
#

Zen 4 is gonna crazy

bleak pebble
#

if zen 3 was not already crazy enough

silent sandal
#

Maybe

main pulsar
#

my 10th gen intel gonna last me a loooong time lol

bleak pebble
#

lol

silent sandal
#

Zen 3 might turn out to be a waste of money

bleak pebble
#

nah im betting it beat intel in gaming

#

gigahertz dont mean nothing if it cant have good ipc

silent sandal
#

Not comparing it to intel

bleak pebble
#

oh

#

amd will match or beat intel

silent sandal
#

I’m comparing 5900x to 3900x

bleak pebble
#

sadl,y no more coolers in box

silent sandal
#

5900x might be a waste, but I’m getting it anyways

bleak pebble
#

i would get 5800x

silent sandal
#

I wasn’t gonna use stock cooler anyways lol

#

I’m not just gaming

#

Hence why I don’t care for intel

bleak pebble
#

5800x still very good editing cpu

silent sandal
#

Editing, rendering, graphic design, game design

#

I was going to get a 3900x

bleak pebble
#

zen3 gonna sell out in seconds

silent sandal
#

But I was convinced by a friend to go for 5900x

bleak pebble
#

ok

#

i still cant get 3080 card

#

its still out of stocki aint paying overprice on ebay

silent sandal
#

Just find all the scalpers, beat them up, then sell the cards at normal price

bleak pebble
#

lol

silent sandal
#

My guess is zen 3 will sell out in 5 minutes, not 5 seconds

bleak pebble
#

i bet 2 minutes

silent sandal
#

Radeon 6000 will go faster though cause of bad nvidia stock

bleak pebble
#

ikr

cinder sphinx
bleak pebble
#

it good if u have money also some prices are unavailable so u have to factor that in

silent sandal
#

3 things: 1- expensive mobo you can find cheaper 2- do you really need the extra hdd space? 3- go for the Corsair rm 850 PSU instead

bleak pebble
#

i mean it depends on budget really he already got good gpu and cpu if he has the extra money he should spend it

#

and windows 10 free u only have 32 gig kit u dont need 10 pro unless u have more than 128 gig ram

silent sandal
#

Not on an hdd though

bleak pebble
#

ye hardrive like 2 or 3 terabyte is good

#

and he does not need 2 gen 4 ssds

#

use the 2 terabyte one not the 500 one

silent sandal
#

Literally for storage just have a single 2tb ssd and you’re good

bleak pebble
#

ye

#

i have 240 gig ssd and 2 terabyte hdd

#

its fine

silent sandal
#

I have a 2tb ssd

bleak pebble
#

unless u are doing 4k or 8k 60 fps editing u dont need so much storage

silent sandal
#

If in the future you really need more storage, then you can get it then

#

Cause ssds will be cheaper

bleak pebble
#

yeah hdd and ssd will be ALOT cheaper

#

u can get 2 tb hardrive for 20 bucks in the future

cinder sphinx
#

I was thinking 1 ssd for os and any other shet that would only install on c drive. 1 ssd for games and other softwares. like adobe products. 1 hdd for others files, i have a lot of anime 🙂

noble wolf
#

AMD excited anyone?

lone oar
#

yes

noble wolf
#

What time do you reckon they'll be released?

silent sandal
#

5 minutes before they sell out

noble wolf
#

I just want a 5950x 😦

silent sandal
#

Wow

#

That’s a big processor

#

What kind of videos do you edit?

noble wolf
#

I don't edit videos, well not yet anyway but that's not my main interest

silent sandal
#

Oh

#

What do you need the 5950 for then?

noble wolf
#

Data analytics and data visualization

vague siren
#

Id love to get a 5600x but am not sure if i should stay up all nighg

silent sandal
#

Nice

noble wolf
#

You reckon the 5950x's will sell out tho?

silent sandal
#

At least you’re not just gaming with it

#

If you were I’d have to get mad

noble wolf
#

Gaming is on the table lol, but yeah

silent sandal
#

People who only game and don’t do any sort of intensive stuff going for Ryzen 9s

#

Just why

noble wolf
#

True

silent sandal
#

Literally a 5 will work great for just gaming

noble wolf
#

I wanna sleep but I am worried that I'll miss out on the 5950x :c

silent sandal
#

We don’t know when it launches yet right?

noble wolf
#

November 5th

#

Doesn't say what timezone

#

Idk if it's November 5th USA Central time or what

silent sandal
#

Well yeah November 5th, I meant time

noble wolf
#

Nope

#

We don't

#

😦

late pine
#

still no ryzen 5000 listings or release time

#

cri

silent sandal
#

Turns out Ryzen 5000 was a lie the whole time

#

Never existed

late pine
#

always has been

#

in that case I will buy used 3900x lol

#

hold up how do you have a 5950X

#

🤔

noble wolf
#

My machine is so diverse lmaoo, a nvidia gpu, amd cpu, g.skill ram, msi motherboard, thermaltake case, seagate nvme, noctua cpu cooler/case fans

late pine
#

I wish amd didn't suck for machine learning

#

because getting vram on nvidia is expensive

silent sandal
#

Getting a pc is expensive

late pine
#

fax

cursive quest
#

Money doesn't exist

vague siren
#

Life is a lie

silent sandal
#

I literally had a 3900x in hand but everyone yelled at me to return it and wait for a 5900x

vague siren
#

Bruh

late pine
#

depends on how much you paid for it

#

tbh

silent sandal
#

So if I don’t get one, I’m going to be very sad

vague siren
#

Big sad

late pine
#

if you got a good deal on a 3900x it is a far better value than 5900x

vague siren
#

Probably yes

silent sandal
#

Yeah at this point I’m already past that

#

I’m getting a worse deal, but I just want the processor lol

vague siren
#

I feel you

late pine
#

yeah AMD is charging a premium now that they have the single thread performance crown

vast granite
#

could hve held onto it until you secured the 5900

silent sandal
#

Didn’t have the money for that

vast granite
#

oof makes sense

#

best of luck im rooting for ya

silent sandal
#

I’m rooting for everyone except the people who just want to buy and resell

vast granite
#

agree 100%

vague siren
#

Yes

late pine
#

I am honestly a bit concerned, I feel like if AMD thought they would have enough stock they would let retailers put up listings

vast granite
#

i think its to hold bots off as long as possible but who knows

late pine
#

but if there's not enough demand scalpers wont make any money

#

so it's a moot point

vague siren
#

Yes but if you go on reddit it says that all stores and retailers are confused on what will happen

vast granite
#

keep listings off site til they need to be and yeah but precaution with whats currently happened with other launches is better than none

late pine
#

it's also not terribly difficult to have a bot that searches for product listings, or even takes a manually inputted url and checks out instantly

vast granite
#

I know

silent sandal
#

Yeah I think them holding off is only telling us that they’re being cautious, not low stock

late pine
#

best buy needs an evga style queue system

vast granite
#

I genuinely considered setting one up but thought i would not be helping the situation even if it was just for myself

late pine
#

I don't see why not

#

a cpu for you is one less that would probably have gone to a scalper

#

if bots turn out to be necessary to get one

vast granite
#

I still have time so I will eventually get my hands on what I need/want so i decided against it personally

late pine
#

to each their own I guess

silent sandal
#

Honestly I’m more worried about grabbing a gpu

naive pendant
#

stupid question but, does anyone know what time specifically the the 5000 series gpu's will come out tommorow?

late pine
#

I got my $360 2070 super from evga

silent sandal
#

I might have to get something cheap just to hold me over till I actually get a real newer one

late pine
#

I will be waiting until nvidia releases a high vram model before upgrading

#

evga b stock is a good way to go

vague siren
#

I got a 1660ti so im good for now

late pine
#

you can probably resell for what you paid when you upgrade

silent sandal
#

Yeah I just need to find an extra $400 now lol

late pine
#

I wonder if amazon will get launch day stock

silent sandal
#

I hope

late pine
#

auto checkout on amazon is pretty trivial to implement

#

they really don't give a damn

silent sandal
#

Amazon shipping is so much better than newegg

late pine
#

and returns

hollow thorn
#

because Amazon is huge

silent sandal
#

Yep

late pine
#

they probably don't even notice increase in traffic when new hardware launches

silent sandal
#

I bought almost all of my parts on Amazon cause they were the same price, but free shipping

vague siren
#

This^^^

late pine
#

Amazon had this promo where you spend $150 and use discover cashback and get $30 off

hollow thorn
#

heh

late pine
#

then another promo where they give $10 off an order of $20 when you order through app

hollow thorn
#

I bought almost all of my parts off Newegg because they were cheaper AND free shipping

#

I don't have prime

silent sandal
#

Neither do I

#

So I use my mums account and have it shipped to me lol

hollow thorn
#

why not use free newegg shipping

#

oh I don't have prime at all

#

We don't use amazon enough to warrant prime

silent sandal
#

Newegg has free shipping?

vague siren
#

It didnt for me

hollow thorn
#

I got free shipping on 95% of everything I bought from newegg

silent sandal
#

Yeah the 2 things I got on newegg I had to pay shipping

vague siren
#

For me it wouldve cost 73 dollars of newegg shipping

hollow thorn
#

the only thing that I remember didn't was NT-H2 because it was shipped by Noctua

silent sandal
#

I only got those things on newegg cause Amazon didn’t have them

hollow thorn
#

it was the only thing that Newegg charged me shipping for that I can see

silent sandal
#

Interesting

hollow kraken
#

when are 5000 ryzen cpus coming out?

vast granite
#

noctua does thermal paste

hollow thorn
#

Noctua does really good thermal paste

late pine
#

is it worth buying aftermarket paste for krakrn x63

hollow thorn
#

Nocua is best cooling company

#

@late pine it's called not worth buying a x63

late pine
#

I care more about it lasting long than performance

#

eh

#

I wanted something I know 100% would fit in my nr200

hollow thorn
late pine
#

also paying extra for 6 year warrenty

hollow thorn
#

Noctua

#

has 7 year warranty iirc

#

lemme see for like L9a

silent sandal
#

I got a be quiet

late pine
#

I switched everything to ubiquiti for wireless networking

#

it has been rock solid

hollow thorn
#

and Noctua ships free mounting brackets >:P

safe solar
#

what motherboard is the best value for ya money. I'm looking for a b550 or x570 for the new cpus

hollow thorn
#

6 year warranty

#

B550 Phantom Gaming 4.

#

100$

late pine
#

value and x570 aren't really things that should describe the same motherboard

hollow thorn
#

@late pine btw I bet you this fits in your case >:P
https://noctua.at/en/nh-l9a-am4-chromax-black

safe solar
#

i still don't get the difference between x570 or b550

late pine
#

it has worse cooling performance though

hollow thorn
#

does it thooo

#

@safe solar pcie 4.0 chipset lanes

#

that's all

late pine
#

the x63 literally barely fits

hollow thorn
#

others are on a model-to-model basis

hollow kraken
#

does noctua also make aio's

hollow thorn
#

no

safe solar
#

i thought b550 had that as weel

hollow thorn
#

Noctua stays away from aios

hollow kraken
#

why?

hollow thorn
#

@safe solar B550 doesn't have PCIe 4.0 chipset lanes, it has PCIe 4.0 CPU lanes

safe solar
#

imagine noctua doing water cooling stuff

late pine
#

it took noctua years to make a non brown fan

hollow kraken
#

i cant really imagine that now

#

bruh

silent sandal
#

Didn’t be quiet make an aio?

hollow kraken
#

ye they do

safe solar
#

yea the do

late pine
#

yes

#

they just released their new on

safe solar
#

is it any good

#

thats the question here

late pine
#

no idea

#

not many reviews

silent sandal
#

I just have the dark rock pro 4

hollow kraken
#

its on the, "great" scale

#

not best or godly

#

i mean it works

silent sandal
#

The aio or drp4?

late pine
#

the be quiet is refillable wich is the biggest selling point imo

hollow kraken
#

aio

#

ye

late pine
#

but only 3 year warrenty and no info on pump reliability, so I am sticking with nzxt for now

hollow kraken
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i harlye when people install their aio wrong and complain about their thermals

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hate*

silent sandal
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That’s gonna be me with my drp4

late pine
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gamer's nexus intensifies

hollow kraken
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i hated it BEFORE gn talked about it

late pine
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honestly probably a big reason why noctua doesn't want to do water cooling

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user error causes bad experience and hurts brand reputation

hollow kraken
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i mean your aio is just gonna be full of basically sparkling water

silent sandal
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Gamer girl bath water cooled pc

hollow kraken
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oh god no

late pine
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stonks

hollow kraken
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"i cool my pc with stds"

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amd or intel which one would you pick to be destroyed

silent sandal
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Intel

hollow kraken
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same

silent sandal
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Cause I need my amd

late pine
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it would suck to have a monopoly from either company

hollow kraken
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lol

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having no marketing competition makes a company lazy

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what if amd was the leading gpu brand?

silent sandal
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People seem to think they will be with these new cards

hollow kraken
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ye big navi is kinda beating the 3090 a bit

late pine
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I actually want to use CUDA though so I can't buy amd

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hoping nvidia releases higher vram cards this summer though

silent sandal
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3090 was a waste of money anyways

late pine
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yeah 3090 is not worth it

hollow kraken
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wait what does amd use i forgot the name

late pine
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doesn't even get titan drivers

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amd has OpenCl I think?

hollow kraken
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like for their gpus

late pine
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but tensorflow etc only natively supports nvidia

hollow kraken
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like they made something1 and something2

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oh its rdna

late pine
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the thing is right now machine learning toolkits are all written for nvidia, and datacenters where models are trained are all running nvidia hardware

hollow kraken
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rdna2 vs cuda, hmm

late pine
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I am talking about the language

silent sandal
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Cuda

late pine
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CUDA

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not the name of the cores

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CUDA (Compute Unified Device Architecture) is a parallel computing platform and application programming interface (API) model created by Nvidia. It allows software developers and software engineers to use a CUDA-enabled graphics processing unit (GPU) for general purpose proces...

hollow thorn
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Cuda cores eh

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:P

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afaik bob talked about AMD GPUs supporting tensorflow, at least on linux

late pine
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we are starting to reach the upper limit of how quickly gpu's can render games through brute force. The future is in AI upscaling and frame interpolation imo

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so in the long run I think nvidia is still in the lead

hollow kraken
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are gpus named general purpose unit or graphics processing unit?

late pine
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I think graphics

hollow kraken
hollow thorn
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doesn't matter

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any convo can go anywhere

hollow kraken
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alr

hollow thorn
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anyways I seriously doubt Noctua will ever make an AIO

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their whole spiel is long-lasting low maintenance cooling parts

late pine
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they probably won't even make rgb fans

hollow thorn
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They have no reason to

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and people who buy Noctua fans won't buy RGB fans

silent sandal
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Rgb fans are excessive

hollow thorn
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the whole point is for good cooling with no compromises

late pine
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but people who buy rgb fans will buy noctua rgb fans instead of corsair

hollow thorn
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that's why it took them like 2 years to get chromax fans in

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they wanted them to look good while still performing the same

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so they're not just doing a spray paint job

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trying to get rgb into their already extremely optimised fans is going to be near impossible

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without sacrificing performance

silent sandal
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So basically I wasted my money and should’ve gone noctua

hollow thorn
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what'd you get?

hollow kraken
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also excessive wires

hollow thorn
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Noctua is also more expensive

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but I personally would pay the Noctua tax

late pine
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I am not buying aftermarket fans yet

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if I build my pc and it is too loud for me then I will upgrade

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but I want to try it as-is first

silent sandal
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I got drp4

hollow thorn
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I have arctic P14s and a Noctua nf-p12 in my case

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oh yea 1 issue with NH-D15 is ram clearance

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that's the only downside to that cooler

late pine
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also fitting in case

hollow thorn
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it's like 32mm to mobo

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@late pine all actually good cases support it

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and remember

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Most good air coolers are ~160mm anyways

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like DRP4

late pine
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I am building ssf so I can fit my computer in a suitcase and bring it with me to/from uni

hollow thorn
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I might build sff

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and get like a NH-L9a

late pine
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I have a friend who can get me employee discount on intel cpu, so that would be like ~$280 for a 10900k

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so I got the water cooler to have any hope of cooling it

hollow thorn
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I mean

late pine
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but intel literally hasn't stocked their employee store

hearty cape
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Is there any way to buy a set of 8x32 5000mhx ddr4 ram?

hollow thorn
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at stock even a L9a will do fine

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why

late pine
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not with disabled power limits

hearty cape
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Mhz*

late pine
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intel having serious supply issues

hollow thorn
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@hearty cape why

hearty cape
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Why not

hollow thorn
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what motherboard will support that

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lemme ask you that question

hearty cape
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Probably none

hollow thorn
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I know 0 motherboard that will support that

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exactly

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:P

late pine
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most 32gb sticks won't overclock that high

hearty cape
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But it still exists

hollow thorn
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even good consumer motherboards struggle with 32gb sticks at 3600c16