#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 126

sterile sphinx Sep 15, 2020, 10:45 PM

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My current motherboard: ASRock B365M IB-R
My current RAM: Neo Forza NMUD480E82-2666 (2x8)
Suggest any fast ram for me?
@gritty meadow

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preferably rbg

mellow summit Sep 15, 2020, 10:47 PM

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I'll be using it for streaming and gaming only

hollow thorn Sep 15, 2020, 10:48 PM

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@sterile sphinx you're not going to be able to support high frequency ram because of that motherboard

gritty meadow Sep 15, 2020, 10:48 PM

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@mellow summit you technically have what you need.

sterile sphinx Sep 15, 2020, 10:48 PM

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ya thats wut i thought

hollow thorn Sep 15, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Intel on non-z motherboards lock ram to 2666mhz :(

sterile sphinx Sep 15, 2020, 10:48 PM

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okee

hollow thorn Sep 15, 2020, 10:48 PM

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(and 2933mhz on i7/i9 on lga1200 aparently)

sterile sphinx Sep 15, 2020, 10:48 PM

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hmm okay thanks

hollow thorn Sep 15, 2020, 10:49 PM

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But at that point might as well get a Z mobo xD

gritty meadow Sep 15, 2020, 10:49 PM

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@mellow summit any overclocking?

sterile sphinx Sep 15, 2020, 10:49 PM

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do you have a preference? @hollow thorn

hollow thorn Sep 15, 2020, 10:49 PM

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hm?

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preference for what

sterile sphinx Sep 15, 2020, 10:50 PM

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mobo

hollow thorn Sep 15, 2020, 10:50 PM

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what CPU

sterile sphinx Sep 15, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Intel Core i7-9700F

hollow thorn Sep 15, 2020, 10:50 PM

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It's likely not worth buying a new z series mobo just for higher speed ram lol

sterile sphinx Sep 15, 2020, 10:50 PM

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ya my build is kinda bad lol

hollow thorn Sep 15, 2020, 10:51 PM

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it's kinda sad, on a F CPU you can't OC either so that's less value for the Z mobo

sterile sphinx Sep 15, 2020, 10:51 PM

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hmm

mellow summit Sep 15, 2020, 11:09 PM

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@gritty meadow What do you mean by have what I need?

gritty meadow Sep 15, 2020, 11:09 PM

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ah, you do know how to respond.

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mellow summit Sep 15, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Hahaha sorry, was playing League with my friend

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Got out of the game

gritty meadow Sep 15, 2020, 11:10 PM

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that was meant for ALawn :)

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and you have a question above

mellow summit Sep 15, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Overclocking the memory?

gritty meadow Sep 15, 2020, 11:11 PM

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overclocking in general

mellow summit Sep 15, 2020, 11:16 PM

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I would be overclocking the CPU

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maybe the gpu

gritty meadow Sep 15, 2020, 11:32 PM

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well, you can take either mainboard for that @mellow summit

mellow summit Sep 15, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Is there really any difference between the two though? For $85, if there really isn't anything major, then I'll go with the cheaper option

mellow summit Sep 16, 2020, 12:10 AM

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@gritty meadow

gritty meadow Sep 16, 2020, 12:11 AM

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there are, but .... yeah. just go with the cheaper one.

mellow summit Sep 16, 2020, 12:19 AM

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any MAJOR difference*

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But I gotcha

burnt finch Sep 16, 2020, 1:58 AM

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is the ryzen 5 3600 good

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and is the stock cooler good enough

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also if I have 16 gb of ram can I upgrade jsut the ram without upgrading anything else or will it mess things up?

charred venture Sep 16, 2020, 2:22 AM

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yes, yes, and yes

burnt finch Sep 16, 2020, 2:23 AM

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awesome

ebon nimbus Sep 16, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Hey can anyone who knows gpus and CPUs dm me I have a question that I’m not sure of

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 2:31 AM

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#building-and-recc-chat or this works, just ask

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dontasktoask.com

quaint current Sep 16, 2020, 2:52 AM

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https://dontasktoask.com/

Don't ask to ask, just ask

drowsy nymph Sep 16, 2020, 6:39 AM

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@ebon nimbus No need to DM just ping me here with your question.

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 3:13 PM

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guys 3200 cl16 or 3600 cl18

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 3:16 PM

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For Intel or AMD

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 3:51 PM

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AMD

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 3:53 PM

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3600c18 on 3000 series CPUs

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 3:53 PM

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thanks

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YES

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IT WILL

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it absolutely will bottleneck

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 4:10 PM

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No

drowsy nymph Sep 16, 2020, 4:10 PM

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@azure wharf Stop it. Lol

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 4:11 PM

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what

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a 3080 would bottleneck

drowsy nymph Sep 16, 2020, 4:12 PM

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For a serious anwser @ebon nimbus it really all depends on the game but for the most part the 8600 should be fine.

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It also depends on the res.

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At 1080P it might be a small bottleneck, but at 1440P & 4K it shouldn't be a bottleneck at all.

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 4:13 PM

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i would think it would bottleneck

drowsy nymph Sep 16, 2020, 4:13 PM

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No

burnt finch Sep 16, 2020, 4:13 PM

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really?

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 4:13 PM

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i thought it would

burnt finch Sep 16, 2020, 4:13 PM

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yeah me too

drowsy nymph Sep 16, 2020, 4:14 PM

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It's a 6 core processor that boosts up to 4.3.

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Oh he has K model.

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That's even better.

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Like I said at 1080P it will be small bottleneck but at 1440P & 4K it's not gonna be a problem.

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 4:15 PM

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well ok

burnt finch Sep 16, 2020, 4:16 PM

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does anyone know of cheap 32 gb ram?

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 4:18 PM

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uh

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hold on

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AMD or intel?

burnt finch Sep 16, 2020, 4:20 PM

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AMD

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 4:20 PM

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ok

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Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory

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$115 or for $140 you can get ripjaws CL16 3600

burnt finch Sep 16, 2020, 4:22 PM

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okay thanks

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 4:22 PM

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no prob

loud spindle Sep 16, 2020, 4:53 PM

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can someone recommend me a good mobo with wifi for the am4 platform

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 4:53 PM

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yes

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budget?

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whats the budget?

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ok

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you wont respond

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Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO AC ATX AM4 Motherboard

long geyser Sep 16, 2020, 5:08 PM

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b550 Phantom Gaming 4 non AC + 9560 wireless NiC + Dual band antenna kit

loud spindle Sep 16, 2020, 5:19 PM

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oh sorry @azure wharf i wasnt paying attention but the budgets under 300

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 5:20 PM

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ok

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thats a pretty big budget lol

loud spindle Sep 16, 2020, 5:20 PM

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yeah

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so do you recommend the b550 aorus pro?

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:21 PM

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what cpu?

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 5:21 PM

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no

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for 300 u can get a lot more

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Taken do what cpu are you thinking about getting

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You don't have to spend all 300 to get a good mobo

loud spindle Sep 16, 2020, 5:22 PM

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i have a ryzen 5 3600

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:22 PM

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lmao ok

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 5:22 PM

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oof

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:22 PM

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no need for a good mobo then

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 5:22 PM

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dont spend more on a mobo then a cpu

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Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO AC ATX AM4 Motherboard

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Have you bought the cpu yet?

uncut hull Sep 16, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Asus PRIME X570-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard

Does this mobo have a usb - c header?

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:23 PM

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if not a cheaper option would be a b550 pro vdh wifi from msi

loud spindle Sep 16, 2020, 5:23 PM

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i have the cpu already

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im just looking for a mobo

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:23 PM

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@uncut hull yes

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only gen 2 though

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Taken what gpu are you getting?

uncut hull Sep 16, 2020, 5:24 PM

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i mean its for my Front panel on my case

loud spindle Sep 16, 2020, 5:25 PM

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i have a 2060 super fe

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 5:25 PM

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ok

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i still stand by my original choice

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Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO AC ATX AM4 Motherboard

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great board

loud spindle Sep 16, 2020, 5:25 PM

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okay im gonna check it out

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:25 PM

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no

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Taken dont do that

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that mobo is the same price as the cpu

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@loud spindle

loud spindle Sep 16, 2020, 5:26 PM

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im looking for one with wifi

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:26 PM

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I would say go for a budget option like the b550 pro vdh wifi

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 5:26 PM

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the one i reccomended has wifi

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and rgb

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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yes but it is 190 dollars lmao

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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and a decent bios

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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for a chip that cost 200

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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no

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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oh 1890

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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its only $170

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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180

uncut hull Sep 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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is the Asus PRIME X570-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard

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a good board?

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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yes

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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decent but many don't need x570

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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yeah

uncut hull Sep 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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tru

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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is there a profesional reason you need it?

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and for a 3600 it will be pretty useless

loud spindle Sep 16, 2020, 5:28 PM

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no im mainly just gaming

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:28 PM

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There is no reason to get an expensive motherboard if you don't need it

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I would say a b550 pro vdh wifi would be good

uncut hull Sep 16, 2020, 5:29 PM

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which b550 mobo has a usbc header?

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n also white lol to match my build

spare kelp Sep 16, 2020, 5:32 PM

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ASRock B550 STEEL LEGEND AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:32 PM

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you could always just get a adapter

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from gen 3 to usbc

spare kelp Sep 16, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Ye

uncut hull Sep 16, 2020, 5:33 PM

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tru

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I was gonna get this one

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https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-b550-f-gaming/p/N82E16813119312

spare kelp Sep 16, 2020, 5:34 PM

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What cpu are you getting

deep vigil Sep 16, 2020, 5:34 PM

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good board, but why do you need an expensive mobo?

spare kelp Sep 16, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Or have you not decided?

uncut hull Sep 16, 2020, 5:35 PM

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me?

spare kelp Sep 16, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Yeah

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Mattee

loud spindle Sep 16, 2020, 5:36 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-b550-f-gam-wif/p/N82E16813119311

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Why do you need a 190$ mobo and not a 110$ mobo

loud spindle Sep 16, 2020, 5:36 PM

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im gonna get that mobo

uncut hull Sep 16, 2020, 5:36 PM

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im using a b350 rn lol

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so i gotta upgrade

azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 5:37 PM

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oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooof

uncut hull Sep 16, 2020, 5:37 PM

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and for aesthetics

spare kelp Sep 16, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Im guessing rgb is a big thing for you

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Why not a b550 pro vdh wifi

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That's my real question

heady root Sep 16, 2020, 5:38 PM

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even for aesthetics i couldn't justify spending that much

uncut hull Sep 16, 2020, 5:38 PM

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i just turn it white lol

heady root Sep 16, 2020, 5:38 PM

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maybe 150

uncut hull Sep 16, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Just want a white mobo to match lul

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azure wharf Sep 16, 2020, 5:40 PM

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ima spend $900 on a asus mobo

spare kelp Sep 16, 2020, 5:40 PM

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bet

long geyser Sep 16, 2020, 5:40 PM

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@hollow thorn because bad SPU is why

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ha

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also, stock NiC is pretty meh

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not surprising for the cheapest AC board

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Hei, 90% of the people asking for a build has a usb headset

long geyser Sep 16, 2020, 5:41 PM

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but that's why I usually go barebones M2 E board and buy NiC separately

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Well it works, not like they're going to notice that much of a difference

long geyser Sep 16, 2020, 5:42 PM

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also idk about usb headset thing. Most people I know personally (whether tech enthusiast or not) use analog

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 5:44 PM

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I don't know a single person irl that uses analog

long geyser Sep 16, 2020, 5:48 PM

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idk, $20 more and you get a fair bit, I'd say it's worth it

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Which board for 20$ more?

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Did phantom gaming 4 go back in stock or smth?

long geyser Sep 16, 2020, 5:50 PM

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pg4 with proper pricing + NiC + antennas would be $20 more or so

ebon nimbus Sep 16, 2020, 5:50 PM

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@drowsy nymph even if it’s just a small bottleneck isn’t it still really dangerous for the cpu

long geyser Sep 16, 2020, 5:51 PM

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actually wait, more like $26 more

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Pro vdh is 110$, iirc pg4 120$? And say 15$ for antennas

long geyser Sep 16, 2020, 5:51 PM

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proper pricing is $115 for non AC and $225 for AC

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$13 NiC and $8 antennas last I checked

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Link?

long geyser Sep 16, 2020, 5:52 PM

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which albeit was a month ago

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Check plz I'm curious

drowsy nymph Sep 16, 2020, 5:52 PM

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@ebon nimbus Dangerous? What no.

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Who told you that.

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CPUs don't explode. 😂

spare kelp Sep 16, 2020, 5:53 PM

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unless

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~~if they are a bomb~~

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~~disguised as a cpu~~

drowsy nymph Sep 16, 2020, 5:53 PM

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steveconfused

long geyser Sep 16, 2020, 5:58 PM

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@hollow thorn
NiC: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Wireless-AC-9560-2230-Gigabit/dp/B07G42J6KQ/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1
Antenna: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P8CKGZM?psc=1&th=1&linkCode=gs2&tag=pcp0f-20
amazon has proper mobo price (tho out of stock): https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4mjNnQ/asrock-b550-phantom-gaming-4-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-phantom-gaming-4

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wait wrong antenna kit (fixed now)

spice depot Sep 16, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Which is better? i5-10600k or i7-9700k. I know the i5 has better clock speed but less cores, so what matters more?

long geyser Sep 16, 2020, 6:00 PM

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depends on task

spice depot Sep 16, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Gaming

spare kelp Sep 16, 2020, 6:01 PM

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24/7?

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Thats a long times

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Aight

long geyser Sep 16, 2020, 6:01 PM

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@spice depot If gaming, they'll be rather close to equal when OCed

spice depot Sep 16, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Thanks

long geyser Sep 16, 2020, 6:03 PM

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@misty obsidian memory stability and lifespan is fine even at the high end. Just dont go zero airflow case config or something. Tho do note that the CPU IMC may not work well with high freq

spare kelp Sep 16, 2020, 6:04 PM

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yeah

long geyser Sep 16, 2020, 6:04 PM

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My guess is that they are perfectly fine, the IMC is just bad for whoever is using them

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that seems more common at the high end

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tho I cant say cuz I dont have experience with those kits

ebon nimbus Sep 16, 2020, 6:05 PM

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No like couldn’t it harm the cpu? @drowsy nymph I don’t mean dangerous for me

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😂

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 6:36 PM

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because intel

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:P

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Intel considers running your ram at anything but Jedec defaults to be OCing

gritty meadow Sep 16, 2020, 6:42 PM

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technically any ram speed (on both platforms) outside of JEDEC numbers is overclocking.

bright turret Sep 16, 2020, 7:17 PM

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would the 3700x be bottlenecking the 3080?

gritty meadow Sep 16, 2020, 7:19 PM

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explain to me what you think bottlenecking means

naive pendant Sep 16, 2020, 7:20 PM

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look up a bottle neck calculator

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 7:20 PM

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@naive pendant no

naive pendant Sep 16, 2020, 7:20 PM

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it will be less than 5% most likely

bright turret Sep 16, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Hmm a older cpu with a higher end gpu?

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Just no

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Those are crap

naive pendant Sep 16, 2020, 7:20 PM

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good idea

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 7:20 PM

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You should take a look at what Naed is going to say too.

naive pendant Sep 16, 2020, 7:20 PM

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yes sir

gritty meadow Sep 16, 2020, 7:20 PM

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@naive pendant jokes like that belong in #general-chat

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@bright turret and how would that matter for you? in the context you are asking about?

bright turret Sep 16, 2020, 7:22 PM

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I would like to know if it would be bottle necking it.

gritty meadow Sep 16, 2020, 7:22 PM

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i ask because the word/term "bottlenecking" is misused a LOT

bright turret Sep 16, 2020, 7:22 PM

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hmm

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Can you correct me pls

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 7:23 PM

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First, what exact situation were you trying to ask about?

bright turret Sep 16, 2020, 7:24 PM

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3700x with a 3080 would the fps be dragged down than having a higher cpu so it could boost the fps.

naive pendant Sep 16, 2020, 7:25 PM

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it depends on the game

drowsy nymph Sep 16, 2020, 7:25 PM

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No it can't harm the CPU.

gritty meadow Sep 16, 2020, 7:25 PM

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the question you are asking is too broad to actually answer it

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 7:25 PM

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So are you asking about gaming?

gritty meadow Sep 16, 2020, 7:25 PM

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@drowsy nymph your comment is lacking context. Elaborate.

bright turret Sep 16, 2020, 7:26 PM

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@hollow thorn yes

gritty meadow Sep 16, 2020, 7:26 PM

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@bright turret the following is NOT me trying to avoid answering. But simply me trying to enable you to ask the question you think you are asking

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Intel's i5-10600K is one of the best gaming CPUs right now, embattled vs. the R5 3600 & R3 3300X, so we need to look at when the i5-10600K bottlenecks GPUs and the best GPU for the 10600K.
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have a watch there

bright turret Sep 16, 2020, 7:27 PM

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ohhh okey thanks

gritty meadow Sep 16, 2020, 7:27 PM

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specifically the different cases of "how/why"

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 7:27 PM

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(As usual, 1.25x/1.5x speed for GN if you don't have the time)

naive pendant Sep 16, 2020, 9:24 PM

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A 10700k won't bottleneck a 3080 right?

burnt finch Sep 16, 2020, 9:47 PM

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no

lament jewel Sep 16, 2020, 10:29 PM

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can anyone help me with a pc problem that could possibly involve memory?

gritty meadow Sep 16, 2020, 10:33 PM

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if you dont post your actual problem, people cannot help you.

lament jewel Sep 16, 2020, 10:38 PM

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PC has continual freezes, seems to run on intervals. can be timed
Happened ever since I downloaded the recent season 5 update for call of duty. when I ran it after the update, the game started bugging out horrendously and went corrupt. turns out it was the whole pc doing it, and its been doing it ever since.
ive uninstalled MW, uninstalled blizzard, used memtest to check RAM. uninstalled drivers with DDU, re installed. nothing seems to work
recent changed have been made, i have updated BIOS on my asROCK b450m HDV. ive also switched the GPU from a 1660 super to 2070.
the only other thing I can think of is, the issue lies in faulty VRAM from the new card. or, its software originating, and a fresh install of windows will do the trick. only problem is, I used macrium reflect to clone to an old disk drive, and still had the same issue.

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Ive looked up GPU issues and most people have artifacting and other random things pop up on the screen. I dont have any of that, computer just randomly freezes over and over. when I click on something, opening something, and when im playing games

hollow thorn Sep 16, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Try the sfc /scannow pinned stuff in #windows-ios

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To check if windows is messed up

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Because cloning a drive doesn't help if anything is corrupted.

lament jewel Sep 16, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations is what it says

long geyser Sep 17, 2020, 1:06 AM

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@lament jewel have a USB drive? Install a bootable Linux on it and test the PC a little bit.
"burn" the ISO to the USB drive with the program from: https://www.pendrivelinux.com

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Can use any Linux distro ISO. Just use Ubuntu or something

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As for another windows CMD fix thing run this:
sfc /scannow && dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

lament jewel Sep 17, 2020, 1:47 AM

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dism commands just give error code 87. i can install a safe boot on a USB? i have a 30gb one i used for memtest86 recently

long geyser Sep 17, 2020, 1:56 AM

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I dont think you can install a "safe boot" (do you mean portable Windows?) on a 30gb USB drive. Tho you can install the Recovery tools thing on it as that only needs 8gb iirc

spice depot Sep 17, 2020, 4:28 AM

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How much is the difference between 2(16gb) RAM and 4(8gb) RAM?

naive pendant Sep 17, 2020, 4:33 AM

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is there a difference?

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just price

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i think, someone correct me tho

gritty meadow Sep 17, 2020, 4:52 AM

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@spice depot price and inconvenience when you want to upgrade in the future

spice depot Sep 17, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Which one is the best to buy then?

gritty meadow Sep 17, 2020, 4:53 AM

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answer this question: IF you buy 4 * 8

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and want to upgrade to more than 32 gigs of ram in a year or two

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what is going to happen?

spice depot Sep 17, 2020, 5:12 AM

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If im not planning on upgrading, is there a difference in speed?

gritty meadow Sep 17, 2020, 5:14 AM

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no

smoky stirrup Sep 17, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Is there a major difference between the msi b550 a pro and the msi b550 gaming plus? The gaming plus is only $10 is it worth paying 10 more?

azure wharf Sep 17, 2020, 11:14 AM

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would i bottleneck with a ryzen 5 3600x

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and a 3080

drowsy nymph Sep 17, 2020, 12:17 PM

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Nope

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At 1080P maybe

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1440P-4K-8K no.

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1080P is so CPU dependent.

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Even my 10900K would hold back the 3080 somewhat at 1080P.

potent dew Sep 17, 2020, 3:48 PM

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The 3000 cards aren't going to get bottlenecked by your CPU

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The double performance was only in ray-tracing iirc

quaint current Sep 17, 2020, 3:51 PM

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yes fully ray traced games aka minecraft and quake 2

naive pendant Sep 17, 2020, 4:23 PM

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would i bottleneck with a ryzen 5 3600x
@azure wharf obviously no

scarlet basin Sep 17, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Bro siblings suck

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signal sorrel Sep 17, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Yo guys

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Got a cpu question

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Ignoring price, would y’all go for Ryzen 7 1800x or a Ryzen 5 3600/3600x? (Most likely 3600)

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If it makes a difference would be paired with a rx 5700 xt

fallen lynx Sep 17, 2020, 7:20 PM

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3600

signal sorrel Sep 17, 2020, 7:23 PM

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How much better would the 3600 be? If the 1800x was cheaper as well....

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Would there be noticeable FPS differences/speeds in different tasks

naive pendant Sep 17, 2020, 7:26 PM

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@naive pendant

Is your pc on your desk? Is your gpu fully plugged? Like it doesn't move or anything? Same with you cpu cooler by Chance?
@half reef yes my pc is on my desk

hollow thorn Sep 17, 2020, 7:35 PM

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@signal sorrel much better. Ryzen 1st to 3rd gen had a pretty big difference in terms of single core perf

signal sorrel Sep 17, 2020, 7:38 PM

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So even if the 1800x was much cheaper u would still go with the 3600? @hollow thorn

hollow thorn Sep 17, 2020, 7:39 PM

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How much cheaper lol

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20$ vs 200$ ofc

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If it's like 160$ vs 200$, in gaming, 3600.

signal sorrel Sep 17, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Like 20 V.S. 170-200

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@hollow thorn would that be worth? Thanks so much!

hollow thorn Sep 17, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Like 20$ usd vs 200$ usd, I mean that just saves tons of money

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What's overall budget?

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Usually that's a pretty decent gpu upgrade

signal sorrel Sep 17, 2020, 7:50 PM

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1000

hollow thorn Sep 17, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Oh yea used GPU market is prob going to be good for you

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Well there were issues with first gen ryzen that make them not the greatest tor reccomend

signal sorrel Sep 17, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Was thinking but just wanted to make sure it won’t like negatively effect performance too much

hollow thorn Sep 17, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Like memory support is all wacky

signal sorrel Sep 17, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Oh interesting

hollow thorn Sep 17, 2020, 7:51 PM

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It will negatively affect performance a lot

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But 20$ cpu is hard to say no to

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I mean, hell, you could buy the 20$ 1800x and a 180$ 3600, then resell the 1800x for profit

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I bet people will pay at least like 60$ for a 1800x

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20$ sounds really low

signal sorrel Sep 17, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Okay thanks so much for ur help!

hollow thorn Sep 17, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Conclusion is, 1st gen Ryzen is relatively pretty bad.

signal sorrel Sep 17, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Okay

hollow thorn Sep 17, 2020, 7:54 PM

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But if saving that 150$ gets you much better other stuff, you can do that.

signal sorrel Sep 17, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Alright we’ll see then. thanks so much!

half reef Sep 17, 2020, 7:55 PM

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@half reef yes my pc is on my desk
@naive pendant

Id say it sounds like theres an issue with wiring. That would be my guess as to why it would shut off if you were frustrated at your desk. Especially if it just shuts off with no blue screen

jade coral Sep 17, 2020, 9:32 PM

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heyo guys im thinking of adding a bit of rgb on my build, any good 16 to 32 gig ram kits that you guys recommend with rgb?

heady root Sep 17, 2020, 9:33 PM

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trident neo

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sexy

jade coral Sep 17, 2020, 9:33 PM

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what about corsair dominator

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and also neo has white on it and nothing else in my build is white

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id prefer black and rgb

hollow thorn Sep 17, 2020, 9:38 PM

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@jade coral it's more silver

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and it still looks nice

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I love em

jade coral Sep 17, 2020, 9:38 PM

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ah ok

hollow thorn Sep 17, 2020, 9:38 PM

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lemme find my pic

jade coral Sep 17, 2020, 9:38 PM

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are you talking about neo

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or dominator platinum

hollow thorn Sep 17, 2020, 9:39 PM

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I have neos.

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📎 IMG_20200420_150928.png

jade coral Sep 17, 2020, 9:52 PM

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oh nice

neat estuary Sep 17, 2020, 9:57 PM

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But why didnt you leave the fans turned so the cables come out the rear? I guess it would be harder but not impossible if you mounted it after you put the motherboard in\

smoky stirrup Sep 17, 2020, 11:12 PM

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What are good b550 board for about $130?

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Also i have a ryzen 5 3600x and an atx case. But a kicroATX board is fine, but if i went mATX would I be losing features?

neat estuary Sep 17, 2020, 11:24 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-gaming-x/p/N82E16813145212?Item=N82E16813145212&Description=B550 motherboard&cm_re=B550_motherboard-_-13-145-212-_-Product

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@smoky stirrup

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At your price range dont expect any high end features.. Feel lucky you get what you can get

drowsy nymph Sep 17, 2020, 11:36 PM

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That's a nice D15.

neat estuary Sep 18, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Ya. One going in my bro’s 3900xt build.

📎 image0.jpg

hollow thorn Sep 18, 2020, 12:34 AM

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I like it

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 12:38 AM

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@neat estuary i see you shifted the right towers fan up a bit, make certain you have side panel clearance with that

neat estuary Sep 18, 2020, 12:38 AM

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I think im stopped by the ram.. ill double check it

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 12:39 AM

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you are.

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more of a "dont just slam the side panel of the case"

neat estuary Sep 18, 2020, 12:39 AM

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ill shift it to the otherside if i have too

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 12:39 AM

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aye aye

loud escarp Sep 18, 2020, 3:13 AM

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I think my ryzen 5 3600 is janky

naive pendant Sep 18, 2020, 3:13 AM

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how come xd

loud escarp Sep 18, 2020, 3:14 AM

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I know for a fact I didnt win with the silicon as I cant get past 4.1GHz

naive pendant Sep 18, 2020, 3:15 AM

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awww

loud escarp Sep 18, 2020, 3:15 AM

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I dont know if my voltage is enough to go past tho thats what im having trouble with

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Idk if i should push more or not

naive pendant Sep 18, 2020, 3:19 AM

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yeah im not an overclocking god but more voltage would get you there but you dont want to bust the homie or anything

loud escarp Sep 18, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Exactly so idk lol

naive pendant Sep 18, 2020, 3:19 AM

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if you got the overclocking channel someone can prolly help

loud escarp Sep 18, 2020, 3:20 AM

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I am now

naive pendant Sep 18, 2020, 3:20 AM

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ahh ok

blazing grail Sep 18, 2020, 4:14 AM

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i got this ram (https://www.gskill.com/product/165/168/1536218185/F4-3200C16D-16GTZKW-Overview) for my ryzen 7 1700x and b450 aorus m motherboard and it causes crashes to my pc :(( dont know whats the problem, let me know if u know what im doing wrong.. i have 2 (2x8 kits) soooo

G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

F4-3200C16D-16GTZKW-G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

G.SKILL

modern tundra Sep 18, 2020, 4:26 AM

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do u know what the error message is?

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and does it crash while you are using it? or does it just not even boot up, and can you get to bios and does it detect the ram in bios?

blazing grail Sep 18, 2020, 5:08 AM

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@modern tundra it was different error everytime and some are repeating i cant remember what it was, but if i do ill let u know. It crash when im using it earlier i was playing apex and midgame my pc craah. I went to bios and it detect all 4 ram

neat estuary Sep 18, 2020, 10:08 AM

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Try 2 ram sticks. It’s often difficult to hit XMP on 4. But you are running a low XMP. Could be bad kit.

grand tartan Sep 18, 2020, 10:40 AM

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Is the ryzen 5 3600 and b450 still a good cpu-mobo combo. Im planning to build my first gaming pc.

neat estuary Sep 18, 2020, 12:20 PM

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ya its ok. Just make sure you get a B450 MAX

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 12:22 PM

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@grand tartan please grab a b550 board

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there is no reason to buy a b450 board now

hollow thorn Sep 18, 2020, 12:23 PM

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@neat estuary do remember B450 max does not equal B550. B550 gives PCIe 4.0 support and some other extra stuff for around the same price.

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Only reason to go b450 at all is really budget.

neat estuary Sep 18, 2020, 12:24 PM

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Tbh after the reviews came out on the the 3080 i think gen 4 is a joke and will not be utilized for years. IF OPs budget allows for about a 130$ board then im in full agreement tho

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 12:27 PM

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b550 goes below 130 thou

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and it is not about the 4.0 support for me

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its about the guaranteed zen 3 support.

neat estuary Sep 18, 2020, 12:28 PM

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I think they are trash. personal opinion tho

hollow thorn Sep 18, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Yea that's why I said the "some other extra stuff" Because who knows if AMD will do the zen 3 on b450 thing

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 12:28 PM

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just because its a budget build does not mean you have to avoid looking ahead.

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they will do their part @hollow thorn the BIG question is when/how/where the mainboard manufacturers are going to handle the bios updates

hollow thorn Sep 18, 2020, 12:30 PM

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I wouldn't be too surprised if it was only available with bootlegging on the manufacturers' end

long geyser Sep 18, 2020, 12:38 PM

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well, one of the manufactures said it'd be a perma switch for most b450 boards to accept Zen3 CPUs

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 12:38 PM

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saying it VS actually doing it

kind phoenix Sep 18, 2020, 1:32 PM

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Is 32gb of ram overkill for Lightroom and photoshop? I don’t do videos, just photos

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 1:33 PM

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personally i would say no

kind phoenix Sep 18, 2020, 1:34 PM

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My laptop has 16gb and that’s what I run it with right now, wasn’t sure how it acted on 32, whether it’d be worth the investment for the extra 16

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 1:34 PM

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well

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if you are okay with how it performs now

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then leave it be

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it is quite unlikely to be a "magical" improvement

kind phoenix Sep 18, 2020, 1:35 PM

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I’m building my first desktop and I’m looking over ram atm so It’s just whether to just get 16 or go to 32

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 1:36 PM

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32 for desktop

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imo, nothing else makes much sense IF you are not on a tight budget

kind phoenix Sep 18, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Yeah I got room in the budget to go to 32. Just wasn’t gonna go with it if it was overkill and unnecessary lol

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 1:37 PM

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consider it a investment in the future that you will have a bit of benefit from "right now"

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does that make sense @kind phoenix ?

kind phoenix Sep 18, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Yeah I gotchu. Thanks!

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 1:37 PM

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you are very welcome :)

umbral fog Sep 18, 2020, 2:46 PM

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@gritty meadow you think that walmart deal in the tech deals i posted is decent?

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really agonizing over whether or not to pick it up because zen 3 announcement

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but I'm also afraid I'll get 3080d because ryzen is super popular now

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 3:03 PM

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@umbral fog link me the post

umbral fog Sep 18, 2020, 3:10 PM

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https://www.walmart.com/nco/AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-With-Free-3-Pack-32GB-Flash-Drives/683827621

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I'm capable of waiting for zen 3, its just the fear of getting 3080d

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 3:12 PM

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@umbral fog linking the post = https://discordapp.com/channels/500085440221806603/500101047612604427/756526674962809033

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:)

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that is not much of a sale on the 3700x

umbral fog Sep 18, 2020, 3:13 PM

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minus the usbs its roughly 250

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its just because its not newegg that i actually have tax

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 3:14 PM

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the usb sticks have zero value

umbral fog Sep 18, 2020, 3:14 PM

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since i live in a non tax state for wegg

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 3:14 PM

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none of that matters for me in the valuation of the offer

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i dont find it to be enough of a offer that i would care

umbral fog Sep 18, 2020, 3:15 PM

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its just this fear of the despair those poor guys aiming for the 3080 have

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 3:15 PM

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FOMO

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chill

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breathe

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go dig in the garden or something

umbral fog Sep 18, 2020, 3:15 PM

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i know its pretty irrational

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but i've been waiting 2 years for an upgrade

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and i've been stuck on a laptop

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 3:16 PM

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then upgrade.

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you can go forever if you want

umbral fog Sep 18, 2020, 3:17 PM

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which works, its just i'm tired of having a jet engine next to me

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well its taken the 2 years to save the money, i wanna build something that'll last a while

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its just i'm super build itchy and paranoid

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 3:18 PM

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i had not noticed.

umbral fog Sep 18, 2020, 3:19 PM

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lol

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yeah it doesn't help that i like looking at deals when i'm not working on something

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 3:20 PM

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as i said, go dig a hole in the garden

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looking at "deals" is not going to help you any

naive pendant Sep 18, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Also going from a laptop
I'm anxious about it but the performance jump will be wild

umbral fog Sep 18, 2020, 3:21 PM

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@gritty meadow i mean i'm not really looking at deals to buy all the time, i just like looking at parts

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kinda like how some people enjoy making ridiculous parts lists

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 3:23 PM

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:)

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i am saying what i am above, to potentially help you get past it

umbral fog Sep 18, 2020, 3:23 PM

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i mean i have school work to kill my soul

naive pendant Sep 18, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Hey guys. Looking for someone that sells large amounts of Asus ROG crosshair VII Hero (Wifi) AM4 AMD X470 Sata 6GB USB 3.1 ATX AMD Motherboard. Can someone help me?

hollow thorn Sep 18, 2020, 5:04 PM

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That's likely not going to happen

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@naive pendant there's little reason for anyone to hold onto and sell large amount of x470 boards today.

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:15 PM

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contact the local importer of Asus products in your country @naive pendant

hollow thorn Sep 18, 2020, 5:19 PM

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(I'm focusing on the "someone" part of the question, which is EXTREMELY unlikely, a brand warehouse or something similar could have some though.)

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:19 PM

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which again, is known by the importer

hollow thorn Sep 18, 2020, 5:20 PM

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But they said in DMs they needed some in HK, you got any ideas?

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:20 PM

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importer as i said

hollow thorn Sep 18, 2020, 5:21 PM

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What do you mean by the "importer" in this situation?

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:21 PM

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generally, there are companies that import a given brand "line" to a country

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Just contact AMD and ask them who is the importer for HK

hollow thorn Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I gotta check but isn't Asus based in Taiwan?

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 PM

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its standard procedure really

hollow thorn Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 PM

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or was that MSI

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 PM

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does not matter

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Asus/Amd/whoever would not want to deal directly

hollow thorn Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Right.

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:22 PM

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unless we are talking frankly bonkers numbers

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and even then... not likely

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especially not for old stock like that

hollow thorn Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Yea something like 20 boards isn't gonna have Asus directly working with you

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:23 PM

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nope

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10k ? maybe

hollow thorn Sep 18, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Unless you're a big enough SI you're prob not going to get anything directly from manufacturer

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:24 PM

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keep in mind IF you wanted 10k CUSTOM designed, they are 100% willing to work with you

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but that is completely different

hollow thorn Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 PM

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of course, but you'll be spending tens of millions at that point.

gritty meadow Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 PM

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not going to be cheap, that is very correct :)

warped scroll Sep 18, 2020, 9:00 PM

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What’s the cheapest/lowest end 1151 intel cpu? I’m just looking for something to update bios with. Like so a B150 can support a 7th gen cpu. I mean I know they can support them just don’t they need a bios update?

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TLDR I want a super low end cheap 1151 v1 cpu to update bios on 6th gen motherboards with

main pulsar Sep 18, 2020, 9:16 PM

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there are pentiums and celerons that will work

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lemme find one

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15 bux

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@warped scroll

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wait wtf

warped scroll Sep 18, 2020, 9:20 PM

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thats 1150?

main pulsar Sep 18, 2020, 9:20 PM

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yea it is

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stupid ebay filters

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Celeron-G3900-Dual-core-Processor-2-80GHz-1-free-cooling-gel/333718781841

eBay

Intel Celeron G3900 Dual-core Processor 2.80GHz + 1 free cooling gel!

You're buying 1 G3900 CPU 6th, works great!

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ok, this is the cheapest skylake 1151 chip i could find on ebay

warped scroll Sep 18, 2020, 9:27 PM

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yolks

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ty

mild apex Sep 19, 2020, 12:37 AM

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@gritty meadow hey naed, I was wondering if I can use standoffs from an old motherboard on my new mobo for my build

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Sorry to bother ya

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 12:38 AM

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the standoffs dont follow the mainboard

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they come from the case :)

mild apex Sep 19, 2020, 12:39 AM

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I know that

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But

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 12:39 AM

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so, as long as you place them the right place

mild apex Sep 19, 2020, 12:39 AM

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My case never came with any

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So that’s why I ask

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 12:39 AM

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standoffs are just standoffs

mild apex Sep 19, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Mk

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 12:39 AM

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there is nothing special about them in consumer cases

mild apex Sep 19, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Thanks :D

copper badge Sep 19, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Looking for a board reccomendation for a 3070/3600 system, willing to spend up to 200

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Would prefer that it came with wireless networking

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But I can buy a separate card

scarlet basin Sep 19, 2020, 4:05 AM

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I'm building a PC rn and I need help is anyone around real cool?

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Quick?

main pulsar Sep 19, 2020, 4:29 AM

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dontasktoask.com

scarlet basin Sep 19, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Can I plug Corsair ml120s into the fan splitter on my aorus aio?

main pulsar Sep 19, 2020, 4:52 AM

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now that is a question for google, because for me to answer that would require me to google it

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and literally any one here would have to google such a specific question

scarlet basin Sep 19, 2020, 4:53 AM

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We'll see here's the thing

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 4:53 AM

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it would work in theory

scarlet basin Sep 19, 2020, 4:53 AM

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My aio fans didn't fit Bc they r shaped weird

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So I used Corsair fans on the rad

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 4:53 AM

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but the problem is IF the fans are pulling to spec or not

scarlet basin Sep 19, 2020, 4:53 AM

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But I'm not sure if they will work with the pump

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Yea like voltages and stuff

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 4:53 AM

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then dont.

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simple as that

scarlet basin Sep 19, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Kk

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Ty

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@gritty meadow @main pulsar is this correct?

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📎 image0.jpg

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 5:05 AM

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read your manual

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the triangle mark on the connectors from the case = the positive pin

scarlet basin Sep 19, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Kk

vocal spire Sep 19, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Motherboards for an i5 9600k build?

proud pier Sep 19, 2020, 5:56 AM

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@vocal spire most motherboards listed on pcpartpicker after you select the i5 9600k will work

vocal spire Sep 19, 2020, 5:57 AM

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@proud pier Thanks anything you might recommend when it comes to upgrading?

proud pier Sep 19, 2020, 5:58 AM

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wdym upgrading

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define upgrading please

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if you want to add things into pcie slots or add more m.2 drives or have overclock i would go for an atx board

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@vocal spire

vocal spire Sep 19, 2020, 6:02 AM

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@proud pier Sorry I mean if I was to want to upgrade my cpu and other stuff in the future

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Does that make sense?

proud pier Sep 19, 2020, 6:04 AM

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most z-390 boards will work for intel 9th gen products i believe @vocal spire

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if you are going to upgrade to a 10th gen chip from intel you will have to get a z490 board

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and if you are going to upgrade to AMD you will have to get a completely different motherboard as the socket is different

hoary cedar Sep 19, 2020, 9:42 AM

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I have a i7-7700 and a 1660S, which I'd like to upgrade to a 3070 whenever that releases in october

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As part of this upgrade, I think it might be helpful to upgrade my MSI B250 PC MATE mobo. Any recommendations?

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I need gigabit ethernet, decent USB connectors for VR, and an RGB header (the last two of which my current mobo does not have).

neat glacier Sep 19, 2020, 12:42 PM

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@hoary cedar any mobo (with rgb header) is fine. a lot have gigabit. it's the case that you're looking for, with front usb 3.0, if you need more than the standard of 2-3 usb 3.0 connectors

hoary cedar Sep 19, 2020, 1:54 PM

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I'm happy with my Meshify C for now. It's really nice.

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So should I just go for the cheapest mobo I can find? Quite tight on budget >.<

naive pendant Sep 19, 2020, 2:35 PM

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I would look at buildzoid's videos on youtube, he breaks down best motherboards for each price bracket
There are definitely some that are good value and others you want to avoid

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 2:47 PM

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@naive pendant do remember that buildzoid is fairly laser focused on OC potential

naive pendant Sep 19, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Yeah
But I guess if you can afford what he picks you cant go wrong

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 2:49 PM

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if you care about something else on your boards? you can very much go wrong with his picks

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case in point being something like the b450 tomahawks

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Yep

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Buildzoid does mention io and other mobo features for overview, but beyond that he's all about OC potential

hoary cedar Sep 19, 2020, 3:54 PM

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decent sound output (SPDIF?) is pretty important to me

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 4:26 PM

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What is the fastest processor I can get without having to deal with an AIO?

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 4:29 PM

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@gilded fog for what workload?

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 4:30 PM

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premiere pro.

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 4:32 PM

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3990x :D

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@gilded fog there are no consumer processors that NEED an AIO :P

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Air coolers can do quite well

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 4:33 PM

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https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CPU-performance-Intel-Core-10th-Gen-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3rd-Gen-1763/ <- have a look there @gilded fog

Puget Systems

Premiere Pro CPU performance: Intel Core 10th Gen vs AMD Ryzen 3rd Gen

When AMD released their Ryzen 3rd Gen CPUs in 2019, they were able to match (or beat) Intel at most price points. Will Intel's new 10th Gen lineup allow them to take back the Premiere Pro performance crown?

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 4:33 PM

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yes. But @scarlet basin is on my tail about getting an AIO. I'd much rather have an air cooler.

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 4:33 PM

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they are generally respected for their numbers on productivity software

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@gilded fog you can safely tell @scarlet basin that he does not know what he is talking about then

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Well tell them to get off your tail

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 4:34 PM

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hahah!

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 4:34 PM

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also, why do you have a tail?

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that is imo the much more important question?

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 4:34 PM

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@gritty meadow long evolutionary story! 😉

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 4:35 PM

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fair enough

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do keep in mind thou @gilded fog just because something is the "best" at something. That does NOT make it the best cpu for you automatically

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Let me just grab some GN testing on TR stuff

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 4:36 PM

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of course! I'm doing premiere pro and some standard coding stuff - I'm not folidng proteins.

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 4:36 PM

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that is a VERY important distinction to make

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fairly good chance you would be happy with something a fair deal further down the product stack

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Noctua NH-U14 TR4 is an air cooler that is made for threadripper chips.

📎 air-vs-liquid-tr-p95-40dba.png

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And Kraken X62 is an AIO that isn't made for TR chips :D

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 4:37 PM

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I was looking at the link from puget.

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Let me do it this way -- can I get away with air cooling with a 3900x or a 3950x?

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Yes

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easily

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a lot of people do

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It's not just "getting away with", it's having similar temps with a good air cooler and an average AIO.

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as in, 3c difference kind of thing.

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 4:39 PM

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ok, the cooling stuff is above my pay grade. I usually buy stock machines.

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 4:40 PM

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its basically a question of: Does it cool it "enough" yes/no

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 4:40 PM

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gotcha. ty.

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 4:40 PM

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yes, sure, you can run around like a chicken clucking about the 1c difference... but it wont make a lick of difference for you in your workflow

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 4:41 PM

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OK great.

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 4:42 PM

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AIOs are all fancy and say they cool sooo much better, but it's marginal differences to the average consumer.

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 4:43 PM

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ok. so then can you guys recommend a fan to go with a 3950x or 3900x?

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Do you care about looks, and <100$ is what you're looking for correct?

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NH-U12s : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9EYVGY
NH-U14s : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9FLSLY
NH-D15s : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XUVGLEU
@gilded fog Basically, any of these can cool a 3900x/3950x just fine, the higher you go, the slightly better cooling performance. Noctua is one of the, if not the best company for air coolers imo.

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 4:51 PM

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don't care about looks at all. And more than $100 is fine. Cooler that does the best job is the most important thing. Thank you

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 4:55 PM

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d15 then

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well, check both the d15 and the d15s for mainboard comp

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and ram clearance

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Yea can you tell us the case, motherboard, and ram?

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All of them are pretty tall, and D15 can interfere with ram.

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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not there yet 🙂 Was trying to figure out processor and cooler first.

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But open to recommendations. Budget is not an issue for the build.

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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You want a full build?

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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not really.

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mq2vdm <- too late!

System Builder

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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haha

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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keep in mind, that is a old list

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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I want 64GB ram so 4x16 slots, and 4 SATA slots are fine.

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haha.

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 5:00 PM

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it is being used by a person from this channel that does video stuff

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 5:00 PM

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will be running an rtx 2070

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 5:00 PM

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I'll make some changes :)

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Already own a 2070?

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 5:00 PM

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no. did reading and I'm going to get that one.

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thx

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Uhhh

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Can I recommend you grab something better?

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 5:01 PM

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of course! much appreciated.

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 5:01 PM

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before he recommends too much

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 5:01 PM

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:(

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 5:01 PM

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when do you plan to build?

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 5:01 PM

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3 weeks or so

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 5:02 PM

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recommend away @hollow thorn

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 5:02 PM

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I was about to say, are you willing to work around with the used market?

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 5:02 PM

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nah. I'll buy it all new. not a problem.

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Because people panic selling RTX20xx series in anticipation of RTX30xx GPUs are making the used market pretty attractive

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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ahhhh. ok that's a thought, too.

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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also, 3070 is a thing

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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not doing crazy 4K so that's why 2070 was ok.

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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3070 stock is going to die :(

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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paying current price for that performance makes no logical sense

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Anyways, example 2070 super at 430$ buy now
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PNY-GeForce-RTX-2070-Super-8GB-XLR8-Gaming-Overclocked-Edition-Graphics-Card/154070017802

eBay

PNY GeForce RTX 2070 Super 8GB XLR8 Gaming Overclocked Edition Gra...

Bought 12/12/2019 on Amazon. Still under warranty.

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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the following is not directly relevant for you stpatrick.

@hollow thorn IF the 3080 is being pushed as hard as i think it is. Then that tells us a number of things about yields/performance-targets. Which could mean they have plenty of chips for use in 3070

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so, lets wait on calling doom and gloom on 3070 launch just yet

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Plenty is still worrying with the current situation... Of course we should still keep an open mind.

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 5:08 PM

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people are enjoying their "lets be a lemming"-time

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 5:10 PM

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so what's a good board without all the rgb and temp contrls bells and whistles?

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 5:11 PM

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something like this works just fine
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r4YKFG

System Builder

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Storage is completely up to you on what you need

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 5:18 PM

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awesome. Thanks again.

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 5:19 PM

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And if you really don't feel like going into the used market, a new 2060 super works too.

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You're welcome.

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 5:21 PM

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but, do keep a very close eye on the 3070

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because depending on a bunch of factors

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it might be relevant

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Mhm, wait for launch day of 3070 just in case

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 5:21 PM

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well I can bulid it all and use my old video card and then pop in a new one.

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 5:21 PM

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it might also be that we are going to be praising the new amd cpus to the heavens

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(those are coming up in 2 weeks time)

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 5:22 PM

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we'll have announcement of that in 2 weeks

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 5:22 PM

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generally, its just a good fall/winter this year (for tech)

hollow thorn Sep 19, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Yea, and as always, come back right before you're buying the parts so we can make adjustments :)

gilded fog Sep 19, 2020, 5:23 PM

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thanks, everyone!

gritty meadow Sep 19, 2020, 5:25 PM

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best of luck :) and you are very welcome

warped scroll Sep 19, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Hey guys what’s a good motherboard for overclocking a 3700X. $250ish or less

cunning pumice Sep 19, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Hmm

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Mainly a motherboard with good vrm coolers

neat estuary Sep 19, 2020, 10:46 PM

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@warped scroll B550 Aorus Master

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Its seriously overkill tho.. But its the best B550

umbral fog Sep 19, 2020, 11:12 PM

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i mean even the rog b550 with wifi is under 210

neat estuary Sep 19, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Im starting to really like this board. I havent built with it yet. Their are a few diffrent versions but they just change colors. For 200$ a Type C header and a Post Code really appeals to me. It does have some trade offs. I hate the few USB ports in the back. But next time i get a customer that wants to try to maintain a budget ill try it

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naive pendant Sep 19, 2020, 11:55 PM

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so if my h55m ud2h says it only support i3 and i5 but on cpu upgrade it says it can support i7, does that mean all i need to do is upgrade to the latest bios to support it?

gritty meadow Sep 20, 2020, 12:39 AM

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@naive pendant check your mainboard manufacturers page

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they have a section that covers what bios supports what cpu

solar stratus Sep 20, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Anyone know when 4000 series ryzen chips come out?

heady root Sep 20, 2020, 1:07 AM

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being announced on the 8th so

neat estuary Sep 20, 2020, 1:07 AM

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They will be announced on Oct 8th... no idea when in stores

solar stratus Sep 20, 2020, 1:07 AM

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That's ok, I'm building next summer

heady root Sep 20, 2020, 1:07 AM

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should be out by then

solar stratus Sep 20, 2020, 1:07 AM

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*buying

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Building in the fall

faint ferry Sep 20, 2020, 6:38 AM

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What socket does 9900k take? 1151 or 1151 (300 Series)

grim fox Sep 20, 2020, 7:03 AM

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300 series

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I have a z390 board for my 9600k

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 12:11 PM

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@faint ferry LGA1151 is still the socket

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1151 and 1151 (300 series chipset) are the same socket

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Just that 9900k is only compatible with 300 series chipset

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Because Intel

split copper Sep 20, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Intol

peak sail Sep 20, 2020, 2:07 PM

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hiddy ho

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anyone find a way to fix the asus x570 tuf gaming wifi dram clock speed issues yet?

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 2:24 PM

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@peak sail what clock issue

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Didn't we establish last night you had no issues?

neat estuary Sep 20, 2020, 2:25 PM

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💩

peak sail Sep 20, 2020, 5:06 PM

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@hollow thorn what was that again, I was busy assembling another pc?

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a MSI 970 Gaming Pro Carbon looking for a home

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@hollow thorn so what you are saying is that the x570 wifi post info is bugged and the DOCP/XMP actually works?

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@hollow thorn Or you are suggesting I manually tune the Ram settings and risk another corrupted boot file from the resulting crashes?

peak sail Sep 20, 2020, 5:53 PM

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lol I just cleaned a old vga's dvi slot out with a toothbrush....

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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@peak sail this is how my 3600mhz cl16 ram looks.

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That was after when I tweaked it

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But you get the point

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if it says dram frequency 1800mhz, it's running at 3600mhz ddr

wary crypt Sep 20, 2020, 7:42 PM

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does any one know any solid r5 3600 cpu 3200-3600 mhz ram + motherboard + fan deals?

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Microcenter usually has cpu+mobo+ram deals

warped scroll Sep 20, 2020, 8:34 PM

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think it would bea okay to use a 1300X with 2400MHz ram?

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or would that be bad

umbral fog Sep 20, 2020, 8:57 PM

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guys what do you think about this

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4094820

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tbh thats the price of pretty much the new r7 and a real nice b550

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Hey guys, Whats a good motherboard under the 300$ mark that supports 3600MHz memory? Using a Ryzen 7 3700x

faint ferry Sep 20, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Most am4 motherboards support 3600 but you gotta oc. Most am4 motherboards come with 3200 standard.

neat estuary Sep 20, 2020, 9:54 PM

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If you want the Best B550 you get the Gigabyte Aorus Master. Otherwise their are some 300$ x570 options.. But seriously man.. you would be more then fine spending 160$

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:03 PM

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fair enough... What does it mean I have to overclock? Just go into Motherboard bios and specify the xmp profile?

cunning pumice Sep 20, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Yeah

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Which one do you guys think is better: https://www.newegg.ca/msi-mpg-x570-gaming-plus/p/N82E16813144262?Item=N82E16813144262 or https://www.newegg.ca/asus-tuf-gaming-b550-plus/p/N82E16813119313?Item=N82E16813119313

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Essentially I want to create a machine running the Ryzen 7 3700x, with a RTX 3800. Motherboard doesnt need wifi, but does need an optical audio out

neat estuary Sep 20, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Both are roughly equal. You could also consider the b550 Tomahawk. Thats a very solid choice. @lunar dust

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Should i be getting X570 for PCIE4 NVME?

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:20 PM

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What about b550 gaming x :p

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@lunar dust First, B550 has PCIe 4.0 on first x16 slot and first m.2 slot, second, very few people can actually take advantage of PCIe 4.0 storage

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B550 pg4 also an option
https://www.vuugo.com/asrock-motherboards-B550-PHANTOM-GAMING-4.html

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Perfect, so if I use this https://www.newegg.ca/corsair-force-mp600-1tb/p/N82E16820236548?Item=N82E16820236548 with any B550, i should be good?

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Why do you need PCIe 4.0 storage?

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Because very few people have workloads that can take advantage of it

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Because paying a hundred cad more for 1 second faster load time does not make much sense to me.

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:25 PM

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@hollow thorn The motherboard u linked doesnt have an Optical audio output, which I need for my speakers.

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My reasoning is pretty bad, but I just wanted the fastest ssd to load the OS on and a couple of games

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Yea something like a mp600 makes no sense for you.

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It's better to just grab a PCIe 3.0 ssd for cheaper and near inconceivable differences in most cases.

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Where do you think it might be better to use that money on? IE, the money i save on the ssd put somewhere else on the pc

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Thanks for everyones help so far btw! it's really appreciated

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Can you send a part list?

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:29 PM

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hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Uhm

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:30 PM

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ignore the motherboard and stuff ofcourse, need to update with your guy's advice

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Might be better to use ca.pcpartpicker.com

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Since it makes things easier to share and look at, and shows prices at different retailers

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Yeah, Ill make the list on partpicker right away sec

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m9Nr9G

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@hollow thorn Shared the link

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:41 PM

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@lunar dust try using ca.pcpartpicker.com for canadian pricing.

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Yeah i can just swap the thing on the top to canada for the pricing

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Ya

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:41 PM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/m9Nr9G

System Builder

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Thoughts?

cunning pumice Sep 20, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Why expensive B550?

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Motherboard is what i'm not sure about, so i just put one in there for price

cunning pumice Sep 20, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Hmm you could find one for like ~$180

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Yeah i just dont want to bottle neck the system in any way, which one do you recommend? it needs to have optical out, is the only requirement

cunning pumice Sep 20, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Maybe an ASUS B550F or an Asrock B550 Steel legend

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Asus Strix ROG

gritty meadow Sep 20, 2020, 10:45 PM

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remember, cananda.

cunning pumice Sep 20, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Yea

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I think in Canada those are more expensive

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my list was CAD prices

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I assume mag272cqr was the monitor you were looking at?

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Monitor availability is rough on the partpicker site

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i was actually lookign at this monitor just for pricing:

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https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00113790

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its not on newegg either, but essentially want to run a 140HZ+ 1MS 27Inch monitor

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Fair enough

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Peripheral availability can be rough on pcpartpicker, but it has a good amount.

gritty meadow Sep 20, 2020, 10:48 PM

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just a minor comment: CL16

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Yep

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Pckxhg

System Builder

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That's a temp revised list

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Meshify C isn't compatible with the strix 3080, strix is too long, so changed case from the org Newegg list

neat estuary Sep 20, 2020, 10:50 PM

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That is a good list.

gritty meadow Sep 20, 2020, 10:50 PM

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(side question, how long is the strix? )

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Cpu cooler is kinda placeholder, you can grab an aio if you really want to

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Pcpp said it was like 10mm too long, on mobile, lemme see.

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318.5mm according to pcpp

gritty meadow Sep 20, 2020, 10:51 PM

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aye, that is too long

neat estuary Sep 20, 2020, 10:51 PM

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500dx

gritty meadow Sep 20, 2020, 10:51 PM

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315 with front fan mount is the clearance in the meshify C

neat estuary Sep 20, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Best 100$ case

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Td500 mesh > 500dx :p

gritty meadow Sep 20, 2020, 10:52 PM

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also, canada @neat estuary

neat estuary Sep 20, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Neva!!!!

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Strict cooling numbers too

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Not just 'looks' or other arbitrary stuff

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:53 PM

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I wanted a white case and wanted to like a "black and white" build with white cable extensions

neat estuary Sep 20, 2020, 10:53 PM

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500dx in white 😊

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:53 PM

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and i did want to use a liquid cooler

neat estuary Sep 20, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Artic Liquid Freezer

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Yea there's a while td 500 mesh

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And liquid freezer cad pricing looks weird to me

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200cad for 280mm...

neat estuary Sep 20, 2020, 10:54 PM

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240 is 100$ on Amazon US atm

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Exactly

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Cad pricing is really off so I'm looking at others

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@gritty meadow do you remember if ml360r is good?

gritty meadow Sep 20, 2020, 10:57 PM

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its in the okay range @hollow thorn

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:57 PM

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With that case, in white, do you think I top mount the 240mm Liquid cooler uptop, and then still buy a fan for the back?

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Can't have the "god tier" freezer ii soo

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Btw, one upside to having a td500 mesh is up to 360mm top mount :)

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240mm freezer ii as a placeholder for now
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/qQfqYH

System Builder

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Nice, why is that cooler a placeholder, its not that good?

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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It's an amazing cooler

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But the case supports up to 360mm top

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And go big or go home amirite

neat estuary Sep 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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That cooler literally beats 50% of 360s

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Yea lol

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That 240mm aio IS an average 360mm aio

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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lol, I feel like im going to have so much empty space near the front of the case

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 11:02 PM

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In performance

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 11:02 PM

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the case seems so big haha

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 11:02 PM

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It ain't no o11 xl

long geyser Sep 20, 2020, 11:02 PM

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No AsRock PG4?

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Pg4 pricing is off on pcpp

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And also they wanted optical audio out, can't check easily on mobile

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 11:03 PM

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https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX80315 the 360mm variant is only 20$more so can get that

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Out of stock?

long geyser Sep 20, 2020, 11:03 PM

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PG4 has no optical

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 11:03 PM

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They have some in my area

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so should be ok

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Unless you can do local

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Alright

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 11:05 PM

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you guys think I need a fan in the back still?

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Nah

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With 3 included fans on the front and the 3 fans on the aio, you should be set.

long geyser Sep 20, 2020, 11:10 PM

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@hollow thorn sale price on ROG-A board
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/y96qqs/asus-rog-strix-b550-a-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-rog-strix-b550-a-gaming

Asus ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard

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has optical

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Kk slap it in list then ty

neat estuary Sep 20, 2020, 11:10 PM

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That is a good choice

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 11:12 PM

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that ones better then the Tomahawk? extra benefit is its white 😄

neat estuary Sep 20, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Id say they are about equal.. The Tomahawk has a type C front header i think.. but its just gene one

prime echo Sep 20, 2020, 11:18 PM

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How much would a 1 year old, used i7-9700K sell for? Thinkles

long geyser Sep 20, 2020, 11:20 PM

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@lunar dust any reason for Strix GPU?

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I only see it as a waste of money given how good the Asus TUF is in comparison to price

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Small edits to list: mobo, storage, and PSU
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/BvvPb8

System Builder

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 11:28 PM

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STRIX GPU is just a placeholder, ill take the first 3080 i can get

prime echo Sep 20, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Im going for a TUF 3080 if I cna ever get my hands on one :P

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Gonna eventually get a matching Motherboard in the long run to

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Nice

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jLKfK4

System Builder

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alright this is the updated list, is that ADATA SSD better then the previous one I had?

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And is the Enermax Powersupply good, ive never heard of em before

hollow thorn Sep 20, 2020, 11:41 PM

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It's a bit worse but still good

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Enermax revolution D.F. is a great psu

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the brand itself is meh

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but the model is good

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 11:49 PM

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can you guys recomend a different powersupply? that one is 210.00$ with shipping from newegg

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https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00113689

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is this good?

long geyser Sep 20, 2020, 11:52 PM

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@lunar dust Canada Computers near you? DF is in CC too

lunar dust Sep 20, 2020, 11:52 PM

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@long geyser nope Theres no canada computers in my area

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Memory Express is the only real PC part retailer in my area, that and Best buy

long geyser Sep 20, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Shipping is $5 for me in CC. Tho I do have a CC near me so probs could mean super cheap shipping.
ME and BB dont have that PSU

neat estuary Sep 21, 2020, 12:00 AM

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The Super Flower Leadex 3 650/750w on Newegg if you can get one are top notch

long geyser Sep 21, 2020, 12:05 AM

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If not you have 650w RM. 650w is quite fine for you btw
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/WxL48d/corsair-rm-2019-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020194-na

Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power ...

lunar dust Sep 21, 2020, 12:07 AM

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for a 3080?

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I originally had a 750W PSU selected on my list, but on your list you added the 850

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:14 AM

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pretty sure hei adding 850w was just because it was in stock

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650w/750w works fine in your case.

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550w if you're stretching

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:17 AM

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eww Corsair....

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:17 AM

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What's wrong with corsair?

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:18 AM

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I buried one cpu cooler and two new psu

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:18 AM

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RM/RMx are some of the best consumer PSUs

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What model?

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:18 AM

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buried, i just didn't repeat the mistake of not taking in store warrenties

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:18 AM

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@peak sail have we not confirmed that your problems are mainly related to you not understanding what is being shown on your screen already?

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:19 AM

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that rx bellied up in a day and was replaced by a egva thats been running almost three years now

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:19 AM

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ick

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modelbrand

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:20 AM

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@gritty meadow don't know you, don't care...

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:20 AM

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I'll make you a bet that a Corsair RMx will last you longer than an EVGA N1

charred venture Sep 21, 2020, 12:20 AM

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bruh

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:20 AM

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it's just about the quality of the PSUs themselves

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not individual unit defects or brand recognition or warranty or anything

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Egva is a best buy purchased 850 watt modular psu

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:21 AM

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dont bother @hollow thorn

quaint current Sep 21, 2020, 12:21 AM

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modelvbrand

charred venture Sep 21, 2020, 12:21 AM

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ok I'll take your advice and buy a N1 to power the 3090 in SLI

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lets go

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Well Naed, I want some good entertainment before I need to start doing a boring chapter guide :P

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:21 AM

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its a waste of time. He is shown multiple times that he does not read what is being said.

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:21 AM

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oddly i have an even older ApexGaming 850 modular I got off of newegg over three years ago

lunar dust Sep 21, 2020, 12:21 AM

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https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX80035

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Prime example being the 3600 ram "issue"

lunar dust Sep 21, 2020, 12:21 AM

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so that PSU should be good?

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Yea RM750 is fine

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:22 AM

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@gritty meadow Nope it's just bad advice i ignore

cunning pumice Sep 21, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Isn’t RM Worse than RMx?

charred venture Sep 21, 2020, 12:22 AM

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@peak sail u are the king of bad advice

quaint current Sep 21, 2020, 12:22 AM

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the x stands for xtra cool

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:22 AM

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It is

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:22 AM

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You not understanding what is on your screen is not bad advice, its you tripping yourself. But, we cannot prevent you from doing that.

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:23 AM

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RMx has jap caps, RM doesn't, and some other slight altercations, but RM is still a solid PSU overall.

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:23 AM

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now i did purchase the kid the Corsair gaming headset, mouse, and keyboard which are great on icue software

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:23 AM

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oh god

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:23 AM

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what we can do however, is make it clear that advice you give SHOULD be taken with a LARGE helping of salt

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:23 AM

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there's a lot of people that would like to take a dump on icue

naive pendant Sep 21, 2020, 12:23 AM

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^

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:24 AM

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i been building for over 20 years, I only question whats new or bizarre

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:24 AM

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There is a group of users that i feel very sorry for then.

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:25 AM

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I owned a atari 400 with 48k and a tape drive

quaint current Sep 21, 2020, 12:25 AM

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cool

main pulsar Sep 21, 2020, 12:25 AM

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ooo

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:25 AM

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To give some context, Naed might just have more experience.

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:26 AM

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past "deeds" do not tell anyone anything about the quality of what you are saying "now"

quaint current Sep 21, 2020, 12:26 AM

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just cause u have more years doesnt mean u know more than somebody Dumb

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:26 AM

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that was pre ibm clone era, just finished eight desktops for the kids to game/study on

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Very much agreed @quaint current.

naive pendant Sep 21, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Same

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:28 AM

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two amd 970 with fx 8350 cpus, gtx 1060 6gb, two dell 7020 convisions, 1 i7 4790k on a z97 all gtx 1060 gpus

quaint current Sep 21, 2020, 12:29 AM

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good for u

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:29 AM

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and the relevance of that is?

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:29 AM

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2 b450 with gtx 1660 supers, 16gb ddr4, and my own x570

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nm all the crap I built prior to your diapers

quaint current Sep 21, 2020, 12:30 AM

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this has literally no relevance

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:30 AM

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with that out of the way my newegg account is equally as old

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:30 AM

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i find it fascinating that you seriously seem to think that age has any relevance in this

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:30 AM

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taking a break brb

naive pendant Sep 21, 2020, 12:31 AM

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good

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clear your brain

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I dont know what your are trying to prove with your specs

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:33 AM

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smoke break, i don't feel link drinking coffee

naive pendant Sep 21, 2020, 12:33 AM

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ok...................

quaint current Sep 21, 2020, 12:37 AM

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@naive pendant people think that being in a field longer automatically means they know more, even tho some people have been in the field for less time and know more, more years≠more knowledge

naive pendant Sep 21, 2020, 12:38 AM

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^^^TRUE^^^

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somebuddy should pin that

quaint current Sep 21, 2020, 12:38 AM

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lol thats not really pin worthy but thanks ig

charred venture Sep 21, 2020, 12:38 AM

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man smoking around pc parts is the worst practice

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hope u dont do that

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Sorry for ignoring youth, I was looking up two gpu support brackets to sure up the two dell 7020 conversions I gave the kids

charred venture Sep 21, 2020, 12:39 AM

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whenever i buy something and it smells like smoke its usually a bad sign

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Don't assume everyone here is younger than you.

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:40 AM

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you are cracking me up @peak sail

quaint current Sep 21, 2020, 12:40 AM

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anyway have fun with this yall im out

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:40 AM

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like taiwanese ram, i saw that smoke before

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I apologize in advance, I just get the feeling I am conversing with a uninformed sales rep sometimes

quaint current Sep 21, 2020, 12:42 AM

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quite the opposite :)

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:45 AM

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the dells where a pretty good buy i5 4590, 1 tb hd, win 10 64 bit.

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tossed their micro atx into two diypc cases, ring fans, and two aging gtx 1060's and they kids are happy

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except for the gpu sag on the micro atx case

naive pendant Sep 21, 2020, 12:49 AM

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#building-and-recc-chat #general-chat

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if your gonna talk about builds and specs talk there

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talk cpus mobos and memory here

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Just expressing know how..

naive pendant Sep 21, 2020, 12:53 AM

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not here

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:53 AM

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this channel is cpus/mobo/and memory correct..

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:53 AM

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the above is not "know how". its just info.

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it has no problem attached to it

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hence, belongs in #general-chat really.

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:55 AM

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my problem is the asus x570 tuf gaming wifi naturally, but people say it's np

naive pendant Sep 21, 2020, 12:55 AM

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this channel is cpus/mobo/and memory correct..
@peak sail your talking about full specs not just about cpus and mobo and memory

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:55 AM

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is there any particular reason for the PM you sent me @peak sail ?

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:56 AM

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This is just kinda really off topic by this point

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:56 AM

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small talk

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:56 AM

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i am going to share it here.

naive pendant Sep 21, 2020, 12:56 AM

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yes pls

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:56 AM

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📎 unknown.png

naive pendant Sep 21, 2020, 12:56 AM

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lets see what was sent

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:57 AM

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@naive pendant pull your "greed" back please.

naive pendant Sep 21, 2020, 12:57 AM

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ok

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:57 AM

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wut

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:57 AM

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so then does anyone know why this mobo is unable to post the correct speeds on any sofeware including cpuz, userbenchmark, etc

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:57 AM

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it IS posting the right info

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 12:57 AM

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oh does it now

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:57 AM

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as you have been told and shown

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:58 AM

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sorry i'm not wreaking my system boot file to tweak the settings

charred venture Sep 21, 2020, 12:58 AM

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ok but what is that dm tho

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:58 AM

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and the docp/xmp has no impact on the readf values

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 12:59 AM

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@peak sail you might think that i have a problem with you as a person. I dont. I personally dont care one bit about you. What i care about is false info being spread around. And people ignoring when they are given the answer to the question they are asking. And then promptly ignoring that.

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 12:59 AM

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not just me, even on asus forurms

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you guys are the only group that seems to be ignoring it

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 1:00 AM

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okay

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lets take it from the top.

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you sent this https://discordapp.com/channels/500085440221806603/589689072692494356/757115055585361921

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 1:01 AM

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looks like i'll be waiting for a bios update to correct the issue

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 1:01 AM

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that is YOUR system right?

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 1:02 AM

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yup

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Do you know how to read that information? If so, can you tell us what you see?

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 1:03 AM

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now, i am going to make a markup on that screenshot

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 1:04 AM

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i know it mistakes ddr4 3600 for 2400

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 1:04 AM

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📎 unknown.png

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 1:04 AM

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the values are multipled

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 1:04 AM

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please tell me what it says right there

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 1:04 AM

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I just want to know what you think it says, and what you think it should be.

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 1:05 AM

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it should id as this, that is my issue

📎 CPU_S.JPG

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device recognition

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 1:05 AM

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"id as this"? Explain

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 1:06 AM

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3600 called 2400

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 1:06 AM

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so, you are just going to ignore the question?

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 1:07 AM

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I recognize the multiplier, and time for another break

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xmp speed is as stated, which a x2 multiplier for dual channel 1798

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Yep.

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tRC being off is pretty common, motherboard likes to do auto tRC timings.

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 1:15 AM

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its the max bandwidth id i have issues with, or maybe this is just a ddr4 thing

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never seen that in a stick of ddr3

hollow thorn Sep 21, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Max bandwidth is just jedec defaults

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 1:17 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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you mean like that?

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 1:20 AM

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more or less

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 1:20 AM

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elaborate

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because you are not making any logical sense to be honest.

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Your system is showing that it IS running what you wanted it to

peak sail Sep 21, 2020, 1:21 AM

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dimm id is 2400 when it should be 3600

gritty meadow Sep 21, 2020, 1:22 AM

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you are reading the JEDEC number

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it IS 3600

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see the picture i marked up