cpus-mobo-and-memory

[supple monolith]

Ryzen 3900x has slower base but higher boost clock... so idk which would be better for gaming

[wintry ingot]

well wouldnt in the long run that be beneficial?

[quaint current]

for competitive gaming i'd go 3600, 10600k, or wait for benchmarks of the 3600xt

[supple monolith]

I think nuclear nachos is gonna swoop in with an answer

There we go

[wintry ingot]

why 3600 and not 3700,3800 or 3900?

[quaint current]

oh wait did you already buy the gpu

[long geyser]

sell the GPU

[quaint current]

yeah that

[long geyser]

then get 6c with whatever GPU

[quaint current]

get a 10600k/3600 and get a 2070 super

[charred venture]

I'd recommend 10600k

And a decent Z490 board

[long geyser]

I mean, that's like an extra what? $150 or so?

[quaint current]

that might be a little more expensive tho with good ram+mobo

that could be a 2080 super instead of a 2070 super

[long geyser]

$200 extra gets 2080S

[wintry ingot]

My 2070 is a super

I don’t want to get rid of my GPU.

[neat estuary]

I thought the RTX 2070s was basiclly the best performance per dollar you can get atm>

Im actually debateing on getting one mysrlf

[quaint current]

performance and performance per dollar are different things

[neat estuary]

Its plenty fast to play any games nowadys on ultra,

[quaint current]

the 3600 is amazing performance per dollar but the 10900k claps it

[digital kernel]

Well, yeah

[neat estuary]

At pure fps... which competitve focused you really should go intel man

While i think the Ryzen 5 3600 can do what you want.. we know for certain Intel is better

[quaint current]

yea but to bring out the intel performance you need solid ram and a decent motherboard, where you can get a 3600+$110 motherboard and put the extra money towards a better gpu which would give you better frames

[neat estuary]

I m doing a build atm. B550 Aorus Pro, Ryzen 7 3700x, Gskill 8x2gb c15 Ram, 2080s?

Im expecting high fps. But i know its clock speed in the end

[long geyser]

might be worth for 10600k

[uncut hull]

i will always go ryzen till the day I die

[upbeat lichen]

amd 4 lyfe

[uncut hull]

facts!

just need this b550 mobo to come back into stock

[wintry ingot]

I like ryzen.

[digital kernel]

I will go ryzen until intel becomes better again, or powerpc comes back to mainstream

[upbeat lichen]

according to apple, ARM is apparently the future

[digital kernel]

That's true

I'm not a fan of arm though. They're mostly oriented at power efficiency over compute

[neat karma]

will a ryzen 5 3600 and rtx 2070 bottleneck?

[midnight pollen]

3600 is fine with a 2070 @neat karma

[wintry ingot]

I live next to a computer store that sells parts a good amount cheaper than like new egg etc. so I might just put my money into a 3800x, get a good mobo. Maybe b550 and I’m ordering Corsair vengeance 3200mhz ram now and I just need to find a power supply and a case and I should be good to go

[neat karma]

i have a micro center where i live and their deals are fire

[tranquil wolf]

i love Micro Center but the closest to me is Columbus OH or Cinci

[wintry ingot]

Yup micro center it is!

They had bundles for like $500 but they all sold out except for threadripper bundles

[tranquil wolf]

in the last month we went 2x and got 3600X/Asus mobo combos lol

[wintry ingot]

I’m in PA. I might have to physically go and see what they have

[tranquil wolf]

if i was closer than 1.5hr from Micro Center i'd be in trouble lol

[wintry ingot]

I’m 15 minutes away 😂😂

[neat karma]

i’m in MN and it’s like an hour away 😂

[wintry ingot]

I can walk to mine lmao

[neat karma]

lucky lol my parents never wanna drive me up there

[wintry ingot]

Yea I tend to be good with going and not spending a lot of money. I bought my razer black widow tkl keyboard there for like $80

[sharp cipher]

would a ryzen 5 3600 be better than an intel i5 9600k?

[main pulsar]

yes

its better in everyway, including price

[naive pendant]

My dads looking at getting a I7-10th gen but way to expensive as well as a lga 1200 board

[main pulsar]

unless you are playing a competitive game and trying to get like 400 fps

[naive pendant]

A lot of money

[main pulsar]

10700k is pretty cool

its basically just a 9900k, but with a better boost clock

[naive pendant]

He’s been looking at getting a pc for a while he’s never built a pc before and he’s wanted to so I’m trying to help him pick the best parts he can with the budget we have

[mild jackal]

Better thermal interface material/thinner die as well. Runs 20? C cooler or so under the same conditions. Stronger IMC

[main pulsar]

forks

its 14nm

[naive pendant]

We have been looking at the parts like nonstop lol

[main pulsar]

not much of significance has changed for the average user

[mild jackal]

I didn't say it was that significant

I stated the things that are different vs 9th gen 8c16t

[main pulsar]

yeah ig

[mild jackal]

TBH - I think the $260 10600k is a great deal for the enthusiast overclocker/gamer.

[main pulsar]

yeah

[mild jackal]

Very easy to cool, IMC that can drive 4400 cl16 ram (or better) etc

[naive pendant]

Pentium g2020 is still good enough for my cousin I’m giving it to her

I was going to wait till I got a new gpu and mobo just to give them my gaming pc but no money, so just gonna give them my old grandmas pc with windows reinstalled

[deep vigil]

@wintry ingot sell the 2070s

If your building a new pc in the fall

[wintry ingot]

I’m not really building a new pc. Im just upgrading the parts around my GPU. I play mainly warzone. That is it. And even with my current set up I still pull 120+ FPS and I’m one of the more better players out there. Plus I got a great deal on my gpu

[deep vigil]

Then sell it for profit then rtx 3000 is comming out and it will not be worth as much

@wintry ingot

so is big navi

[wintry ingot]

My only hope for that is if I make good profits off my stock and than maybe. But I’m also kind of sitting back and waiting to see if warzone even becomes an esports game as well

[deep vigil]

@wintry ingot What does that have to do with selling it because rtx 3000 is comming?

[wintry ingot]

Because I want to put my money towards the parts around my GPU. That’s where I struggle

[deep vigil]

@wintry ingot

sorry about that

[wintry ingot]

So I don’t want to sell my GPU if I truly don’t need to

[deep vigil]

Well then your Pretty much wasting the money because new parts are comming out that Are supposed to be 50% then the Current top

[wintry ingot]

I have my money planned out to upgrade around it. I never thought about changing out my GPU

Well I was going to wait till ryzen 4th gen came out but that got pushed back.
So now I’m going ahead of schedule

[deep vigil]

If you sell It now you can put that money twoards the next gen cpu

rtx 3000 is comming out in fall supposedly

[wintry ingot]

If I sell it now I have nothing to play with.

[deep vigil]

Oh I thought you got the gpu and your planninng to make a pc around that

[wintry ingot]

I have a pc already built and it’s what I’ve been playing with for a couple years now.

[deep vigil]

Aight I thought you just bought the gpu and are building around it now

Because if that were the case you should sell it

[wintry ingot]

But I know I’m struggling so I was going to wait till the fall for 4th gen ryzen and go from there and than buy what I need and be good

Yea I agree with you

I ordered my ram cards today. They were on sale. So that’s one thing I’m done with for now

[neat estuary]

Id love to hear from Newegg why the pre orders didnt ship today

Im just impatient 😄

[main pulsar]

idk

the closest youre gonna get to newegg here is @ NeweggService

[naive pendant]

Oof

[midnight pollen]

out of stock 😦

[uncut hull]

@neat estuary is that for the b550?

[neat estuary]

ya

[uncut hull]

rip they really didnt ship?

id be heated tbh

[neat estuary]

It still says preorder

[uncut hull]

like why did i pre order?

also did they give you a tracking number yet?

[neat estuary]

no

[uncut hull]

RIP

I just ordered a cpu and it already on its way to UPS with a tracking number xD

[spare gyro]

Just did a quick test of the new memory kit, even at 3200mhz it does way better than the old 3600mhz kit. Low timings 4tw!

[neat estuary]

@uncut hull The CPUs have been in stock steadily.. Theirs no real shortages

[uncut hull]

But I mean this late in the day and it still got shipped

[vapid mist]

Did anybody else notice that the scores for the XT chips lowered just enough to put them below Intel/tie with Intel??? Seems a little sis to me

[naive pendant]

Kinda want the b550 tomahawk but I don’t know if I want to trust msi after my defective b450 board plus no money

[lapis seal]

sorry you had bad luck with it @naive pendant ....i ordered the 550 tomahawk today......i keep hearing soo many good things about it and not bad one

[naive pendant]

My b450 has no sound probably my fault I didn’t return it but still

[gilded token]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zCcZmg
upgrade for my build
any suggestions $650 budget

[vapid mist]

Ummm... That's not how that works @gilded token

[gilded token]

?

[vapid mist]

That's not a $650 build

Ohhh, you said upgrade

My bad, ok

[gilded token]

i already have the purchased parts

yea

[vapid mist]

So you're getting new memory?

[gilded token]

8 is not enough and i cant find the exact model i have for an extra 8 stick

[vapid mist]

Damn, that sucks. That's going to be a waste of money for sure

[strong oxide]

Can you take a pic of the current 8gb stick you got?

[vapid mist]

It's on the list

[strong oxide]

Oh

[gilded token]

its almost that model

close but without the cuts

[vapid mist]

Oh, nevermind then

[gilded token]

i googled the model and all i found were a few indian articles

[vapid mist]

In that case I guess the only thing to do it get new RAM

Sucks you have to waste money on it though

[gilded token]

yea

the mobo i had to replace bc it broke so i decided to just upgrade a bunch with it

[vapid mist]

I am only going with 32GB to start my new system because I wanna save some money to start

Gonna save me $180, so, it's worth it to start with

After all, I am a kid and I have pretty limited access to money lol

[gilded token]

im also trying out powerline adapters bc i need ethernet speeds but i cant make holes and the routers far

[vapid mist]

Good luck with that

I know nothing about that stuff

[strong oxide]

So, I've been thinking of upgrading my laptop ram. Below are just 2 options I found
https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-PC4-21300-Unbuffered-Notebook-Computer/dp/B07QMMZ79V/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=ddr4+sodimm&qid=1592365823&sprefix=ddr4+so&sr=8-4
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820232309
Of these 2, which woulf be the better purchase, or do you know of a better option?

[vapid mist]

DEFINATELY the second one

That couple dollars more get you up from 2666 to 3000, and get your CL from 19 all the way down to 16. Trust me, the G skill ram is a way better deal

[strong oxide]

...wait, crap

I just realized lower means better.

[vapid mist]

Yeah, lower cl is better, higher MHz is better

And the g skill is better with both

[strong oxide]

Imma need to check Newegg and Amazon again. Gimme a sec

[vapid mist]

Ok

[strong oxide]

I mean, if I found a cl15 set and it was only 2666 mhz, would that be better than a cl16 set at 3000 MHz?

[quaint current]

3000cl16 would be better

[strong oxide]

Ok

[vapid mist]

Yeah

Especially if it's intel

[quaint current]

the lower the number on the graph the better (green is good)
if you're confused, the bottom text explains the graph well
also this doesnt factor ryzen infinity fabric in, this is the raw data

[mild jackal]

Been looking for an updated version of that

[mild jackal]

Edit the post to clarify the picture if you like

Just add a short writeup/link about what first word latency is / how it relates to real-world performance.

[vapid mist]

Ok, so my RAM is green, sweet

My current RAM is mega red

[quaint current]

i think the bottom text explains everything pretty well

[vapid mist]

Damn... My RAM is trasshhh

[strong oxide]

Thanks for the chart

My current ram In the orange :(

[vapid mist]

That chart really makes me see how absolutely terrible my RAM is... And it was WAY overpriced

[quaint current]

a decent budget kit is probably going to be orange, green looks like cjr/cfr and b die

[vapid mist]

I would expect my ram to honestly go for $40 now

And I paid 230 before discount

[digital kernel]

Can you even get 5600MHz ram?

[vapid mist]

That's DDR5

[digital kernel]

Oh

[strong oxide]

Hmm, that 3000 MHz cl16 is about the best I can find

[vapid mist]

Ywah

[quaint current]

yeah or highly oc'd ram

[strong oxide]

Or at least the best I can find without breaking my bank account

[vapid mist]

My ram is 2400mhz cl 20 🤮

[strong oxide]

Can we press F for that?

[quaint current]

5,634mhz is the highest oc rn on ddr4

[vapid mist]

So yeah, my new RAM is 3600 cl 16 lol

Wayyyy better

[strong oxide]

Nice

My current ram in my PC is... I think 3000mhz at cl15?

I dunno, the GPU in it broke and I'm waiting on Amazon to bring the replacement

That, and I'm too lazy right now to tear teh thing apart

[vapid mist]

Lamo, your chances of getting something from Amazon are slim

[strong oxide]

Yeah, nothing good on Amazon

[vapid mist]

They lost my desk, and the replacement for the lost one...

[strong oxide]

I mean, they delivered tolhe last card, I don't see why they wouldn't deliver this one

I just hope it doesn't short out while I'm playing CoD like the last one did

[paper solstice]

I've just built my first pc it has a ryzen 9 3900x an 5700xt 32 gb ram hyperx 5.25 tbs various storage. 750w power supply. The weakest part of this build is the mobo which is a gigabyte b450m ds3h. Is it worth it to upgrade this and if so are there affordable options that would offer me more but nothing less?

[left edge]

b550!

[paper solstice]

Is this the only one?

[north barn]

I mean there are affordable good b450 boards but if you want to go better than that the next up would be the brand new b550s, although they are around the same pricepoint as some x570 boards

[paper solstice]

I found a b550 board for cheaper than any x570 I could find. It's back ordered for the 28th now

Thank you tho

[grim mica]

cheaper b550 often sucks

because you're running a 3900x

[paper solstice]

When I say cheap I mean 200 dollars.

It's an msi gaming board so im being hopeful.

Asus rog strix b550f

@grim mica thoughts?

[grim mica]

yep

good choice

techpowerup has the review if you want to know more

they also tested the board with a 3900x and the result looks really good

[paper solstice]

Thanks.

[plush timber]

so after i order a bunch of parts i see all these deals lol https://www.newegg.com/Beat-The-Heat-With-Cool-Upgrades/EventSaleStore/ID-1259?PageSize=96&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=LB061720&cm_mmc=EMC-LB061720-_-EMC-061720-Index-_-E0-_-PromoWord&email64=eF9zeXJlX3hAeWFob28uY29t&tp=i-1NGB-Q7F-2dm-2fpSdd-2D-2Jwkd-1c-2ffSyq-l4kNbhZKVo-2ckBK&om_rid=34306747&om_mid=10154

some mobo. someone suggested not using gigabyte mobo? i'm rocking a gigabyte since 2015 thats still going strong.

[paper solstice]

They were specifically suggesting I dont keep my ds3h not all gigabyte motherboards. Just the one I had.

[plush timber]

Lol

I'm debating on an m.2 ssd or something to replace my hybrid drive but I don't want to have to reinstall everything and fix settings ands tuff

[supple monolith]

It's worth the few hours

[midnight pollen]

reinstalling is better, but you can clone if you really wanted

[supple monolith]

I'd clone a game drive but wouldn't do it for a new boot drive. but you can if you want

[neat estuary]

Has anyone gotten shipping notifications on their B550s?

I cloned recently now I can’t figure out how to delete the old one. Really annoying

[manic haven]

anyone running 2x m.2 4.0s? new mobo supports it and want the upgrade

[vivid grotto]

I need a 3300x. Where do I get one

[tulip raft]

got 2 i9 10900K pre order yay

I'm going to sell the other one for more money or something

[gritty crescent]

Hi, does anyone have a ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 4S/ac mobo? My machine continuously BSODs, and one thing I would like to try is to upgrade the BIOS, but ASRock only supports the "4S" version on their website.

[neat estuary]

Check out the review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdgNEXpBrfgw on the Asrock by Hardware unboxed. While not all their boards are this bad it should give you a idea on the low end ones. @gritty crescent

[gritty crescent]

Thanks @neat estuary I forgot to put the Z390 in the original post -- I'll try to find an equivalent video for the Z390s

[neat estuary]

Pre-Order B550 has finally been charged and packaged

[north barn]

It's annoying how literally every good mb has recently gone in stock and out of stock within minutes (though it's understandable because of the pandemic)

[neat estuary]

I guess im kinda paying a premium for what i need. I snapped up the first one that seems mid high end just to get it over with

The Aorus Pro

[naive pendant]

Understandable, but def. annoying

[uncut hull]

ayeee i saw some were in stock earlier today... i was gonna get but ima wait till next paycheck first xD

[sage flax]

Hi

Anyone here?

[hollow thorn]

Sometimes

[naive pendant]

Nope, never

Except the guy above me

[tranquil wolf]

so, looking at possibly upgrading CPU from 9600K, which would you recommend... 9700K w/ 8 core/8 thread or 8700K w/ 6 core/12 thread?

[deep vigil]

@tranquil wolf I would keep that cpu for a while

[tranquil wolf]

why's that @deep vigil ?

[deep vigil]

Whats your gpu?

[tranquil wolf]

2060S

[deep vigil]

Theres really no point in upgrading

Your cpu works well with the gpue#

[tranquil wolf]

so no noticeable improvement w/ extra cores or threads?

[deep vigil]

@tranquil wolf not by much your should rather invest into a better gpu

[merry prawn]

So I’m planning my first build and was going to get the ryzen 7 3700X but I saw some news about the upcoming gen 4 CPU’s. Should I wait to see what they have to offer?

[grim mica]

depends

if you need it now, buy now

because if you wait, it'll be september, equals 3 months from now

and 3 months is hella long

[merry prawn]

Not really a rush thing, the thing is that the price dropped on the 3700x already but I’m not sure if it’ll drop even lower when the new ones drop

[neat estuary]

I mean anything you buy is outdated 2 months later. I’d settle for what do you need but get a motherboard that will allow for the upgrade path. I personally settled with the 3700x and it’s allready overkill for anything I do. I did go with a cheap 5700xt gpu however as I want to see what big Navi does. If your mostly gaming your gpu has a lot more to say then your cpu @merry prawn

[plush timber]

https://www.newegg.com/intel-660p-series-1tb/p/N82E16820167462?item=N82E16820167462&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL061820&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL061820-_-EMC-061820-Index-_-InternalSSDs-_-20167462-S5A1C&ignorebbr=1 something like this need a heatsink or something?

[supple monolith]

It's 3.0, so you'd be fine without. But you'd be better off with the MP34 1 tb, cheaper and TLC rather than QLC

Also, wc... #storage-devices

[plush timber]

oh yeah? ohh duh. lol sorry. can you link me to the mp34 you're talking about?

[tacit hemlock]

Linus recently did a interesting video on one of their other channels about b550 boards. He was very ecstatic about how great their value was, but pointed out a couple of downsides they have. He then proceeded to bring out a asus b550 e gaming to show the higher features they can have. I thought this was odd because that board runs at 280 usd atm, however the x570 version is only 300

Idk why I'm saying this I just thought it was funny. He never really has a good concept on "budget" lol

[random marlin]

so ive a i7 9700f and thinking about getting a 10900k but not sure if i should get a ryzen 3900x can someone help me plz?

[main pulsar]

depends on what your doing with the pc

and how much money youre willing to spend

10900k is almost double the price of the 3900x

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-9-3900x/p/N82E16819113103

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SEALED-Intel-Core-i9-10900K-10th-Gen-3-7-GHz-LGA1200-WORLDWIDE-SHIPPING/333628442704

$419 vs $749

[hollow thorn]

Lol

Scalpers

[main pulsar]

yep

so unless your looking to use a 240hz monitor and play competitive games, get the 3900x

@random marlin

[tulip raft]

I mean I got 2 i9s preordered last night each was 520

[plain flume]

i mean i7 9700 is kind of tough

if you're gaming it feels like kind of a sweet spot

[tulip raft]

I’m going with intel since I’m going with a submerge pc build

[main pulsar]

they are currently out of stock

[plain flume]

oh wow, i picked mine up 2 weeks ago

alot of the stuff i bought is now missing from stores though

[tulip raft]

I got it preordered if you just keep your eye on it

[main pulsar]

they are always oos, people keey buying them up

and reselling them on ebay...

[tulip raft]

That’s what I’m going to do with my second one or use it for a other system

[plain flume]

seems like some big bit coin ops springing up too

gpus just going mia

[tulip raft]

I’m kinda hoping I can get close to 6 ghz with my submerge pc build I’m doing

[plain flume]

seen a few guys with pics online

of entire trunks full of 2080's

[tulip raft]

I’m getting the pump and rads tmr

And hopefully submerged tmr

I have soft tubing in case doing copper tubing fails for me lmao

[naive pendant]

[tulip raft]

It’s going to be removed before the liquid goes in

The liquid recommended heat sinks in the machine still

[ionic hamlet]

I hope some reviews of the b550 boards start rolling out soon

[neat estuary]

@ionic hamlet their are a few out

[sharp cipher]

Would a Ryzen 5 3600 work with an ASUS Prime B450M?

[main pulsar]

yes

[hushed coral]

good micro atx mobo for around $100 or less

[sharp cipher]

Ok because some reviews say you must have a separate cpu to update BIOS for the 3600

[upbeat lichen]

the early production B450 boards didn't have 3rd gen ryzen support, but at this point, any new/recently produced stock will have the right bios from the factory

[fast sphinx]

so the asrock b450m pro take the ryzen 5 3600 with bios flash to p3.90 ver

[neat estuary]

@fast sphinx This mobo should be compatibly with the Ryzen 5 3600 out of the box. However unlike other b450s its website has no mention that this board will support zen 3.. This is a pretty low end board

[spare ferry]

anyone here know anything about damaged socket pins?

[ionic mirage]

Ouch damaged socket pins. Those are trouble on LGA115x. Maaaaybe.

[spare ferry]

just got done with gigabyte customer support regarding my m.2 slots not working and they think that either there's pin damage or the mb itself came damaged or defective

it's a z490 board

[ionic mirage]

Ahhhhh hm

[spare ferry]

i didn't see any bent pins when i assembled it so idk what to do

strangely when an m.2 nvme is installed in one of the 3 ports, the system does not boot at all

mb has error lights, no post codes or anything fancy like that

the one that lights up is vga, but i can tell it's not posting or going into bios

because my kb flashes when it boots, but with the m.2 installed it just sits and does nothing

the other slot works, but it's still perplexing that it happens when it's installed in the other one

basically they(gigabyte) want me to uninstall my cpu to see if there are any damaged pins and if not go through RMA for a replacement

can you damage pins when you're installing a tower cooler? i followed the dark rock pro 4 instructions pretty diligently

so i find that unlikely...

[grim mica]

well

socket pin can be damaged before that

unlikely but still not impossible

best to open and check

[candid edge]

HUANANZHI X99-TF ATX Standard Desktop Motherboard LGA 2011-v3 E5 v3 v4 I7 CPU DDR4 DDR 3 RAM Supports E5 2680V3 2506V3 2678 V3 E5 V3 V4 Xeon CPU Dual M.2 PICE NVMe Socket Support DDR3 or DDR4 USB 3.0what type psu

[thorny gate]

upgrading from a ryzen 7 1700 to a 3600 tomorrow cant wait

anyone have that motherboard chart that tells u what motherboard can overclock which chips?

[digital kernel]

[thorny gate]

thanks

[gritty patio]

lmao

[stiff kraken]

@thorny gate any B or X series chipset technically supports overclocking for ryzen

some bottom of the barrel B chipset boards may have poor quality vrms that won't support overclocking very far

but technically supported

[supple monolith]

There is a chance you can brick your board if something goes wrong

But pretty easy

A UPS helps prevent issues from power issues during the update

[quaint current]

yeah if the power goes out in the middle of flashing it bricks the board

[vocal orchid]

what board would u recommend for £60-£73?

[deep vigil]

for which chip?

[drifting cairn]

how do i know if my motherboard or cpu lost a memory channel?

[hazy python]

can someone help me real quick

[drifting cairn]

@hazy python whats happening?

[hazy python]

i figured it out, i was being big stupid, thanks thoug

[inner root]

Hello all. Getting an ASUS x570 motherboard, Ryzen 7 3800x, and 32GB ddr4-4400 RAM. Other than loading a new profile to the BIOS, what else is needed to get it working? What cooler does everyone suggest with this setup?

[charred venture]

Idk but get a 120 mm or smaller noctua fan for ram cooling

Because 4400 will produce heat

[potent dew]

Are the TRX40 mobos the only modern AMD boards with 8 memory slots?

[supple monolith]

I think so... besides epic boards, but don't quote me on that

[potent dew]

Okay

[inner root]

Thanks @charred venture.

[potent dew]

F

[spare gyro]

Ryzen boards will all be 4 dimm slots. Dual channel memory on the cpu means 2 dimm slots per channel so only a max of 4.

[naive pendant]

@everyone

Intel i9 9900k

[deep vigil]

bad deal

[naive pendant]

For 511.

[spare gyro]

@potent dew what price range are you willing to go on your 64gb kit?

[potent dew]

Not really expensive

[supple monolith]

I got mine new for $460 w/ tax @naive pendant

[spare gyro]

@potent dew G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16Q-64GVKC https://www.newegg.com/product/N82E16820232916 unless you get worse timings not going to find much cheaper kits. Maybe amazon but that’s a nice fast 64gb kit

[potent dew]

okay

thx

[thorny gate]

im running a asrock fatal1ty gaming x x370 so should be good most likely wont overclock the 3600. will upgrade to a x570 strix board later when i get the funds

getting my 3600 in mail today

[odd parrot]

don't buy 9900k in 2020 thx

[hollow thorn]

Unless it's 200$

[odd parrot]

10900k is like same price

[hollow thorn]

10900k isn't 200$

[odd parrot]

As 9900K.

[mild jackal]

If it was in stock though lol.

Hopefully soon

[hollow thorn]

Yes

But I'm taking second hand market and such

There are valid reasons for 9900k

[neat estuary]

Ok how bad is it to go 8x4 Ram instead of 16x2? Is their a big trade off or is it just witch magic?

[split copper]

it's best to keep it to two sticks

I think

probably not important tbh

dimms per channel, going from 1 to 2, there's a slight increase in latency ig

[neat estuary]

I c. well now ive got 8x4 3600 c16 Gskill coming

[finite elm]

@spare gyro just letting you know, as far as I can tell, the ryzen 9 3900x does support 128gb ram. So you wouldn't need to get a threadripper to do so.

[digital kernel]

The motherboard would need to support that much ram though

[finite elm]

Yes

Most X570's do I believe.

[spare gyro]

I don't think any b450 supports that but I could be wrong

[finite elm]

Get a x570, there are some decently priced ones. Cheaper than getting a TRX40 board anyway.

Unless you're doing professional level production, the ryzen 9's should be enough at this point.

[hollow thorn]

Many b450 boards support 128gb

[hollow quartz]

Best motherboard for the amd ryzen 3600 series, I’m trying to build a 800 dollar pc,

[neat estuary]

B450 Tomahawk Max

120$ or so.

You could dip your toes in the B550 low end stuff to get pci 4.0 but those low end boards (Asrock) are sketchy as Fck

[inner root]

The x570 I'm finding ($190 USD) was about the same prices as the B550 I wanted

[bronze summit]

Many b450 boards support 128gb
@hollow thorn not mine

[hollow thorn]

oh wait

I'm wrong

[naive pendant]

Let this be recorded for posterity

[hollow thorn]

?

[naive pendant]

You being wrong, hehe

[hollow thorn]

everyone can be wrong :P

[naive pendant]

Sure you're not wrong about that?

On a different note. I want to design cases for Giga, because ... they need it.

[candid edge]

im buying this motherbourd MSI PERFORMANCE what cpu do i need

[forest isle]

got a question about PCIe lanes and the x570 chipset

[digital kernel]

Sure

[forest isle]

I have the MSI MPG x570 gaming edge wifi and a 3600x. The top m.2 slot (m.2_1) is populated by a m.2 ssd and the top PCIe slot is populated by a graphics card. would the top pcie lane be running at x8 mode because m.2_1 is populated?

[main pulsar]

no

3600x has 24 lanes

4 for the upper most M.2

16 for one or two pcie x16 slots

and 4 more for the chipset uplink

[forest isle]

thank ya

[main pulsar]

np

[split copper]

What is the largest module size for DDR4?

Is it like 64?

[main pulsar]

i assume you mean UDDR4

i think max is 32

[naive pendant]

Biggest I've seen was 32 yeah

[split copper]

Hmm

[naive pendant]

I take that back, i just found a 64

[tranquil wolf]

currently have an AsRock Phantom Gaming 4 Z390 mobo, looking for something a lil better for OCing w/ an i5 9600K and 2060S, any recommendations?

[main pulsar]

z390 motherboards are still kinda expensive

[split copper]

Z490 with good vrm heatsink?

[main pulsar]

390

he got 9th gen

[tranquil wolf]

yeah can't use a Z490 w/ the CPU i have, not going to upgrade CPU just yet

[main pulsar]

honestly, save your money for a z490 mobo and cpu combo

you wont squeeze enough out of the 9600k to justify a new z390 overclocking board

when you could just put that 200 dollars towards your new z490 combo

[tranquil wolf]

my issue is if i am going to go diff cpu/mobo i will likely just go AMD at that point

[main pulsar]

yeah

that too

[long geyser]

@split copper if going load reduced there are 128gb, and I think maybe 256gb

[main pulsar]

zen 2 isnt as good at overclocking

so if your looking to oc for the fun of it, that would justify the cost of a z390 board

[tranquil wolf]

yeah if i went AMD i would not bother OCing

[main pulsar]

PBO and leave it

[split copper]

Mhmm mmm

[main pulsar]

i guess its up to you, i mean if you really just wanna spend a day or two leaning to oc and push a chip to its limits, then go ahead

[split copper]

Interesting

[main pulsar]

https://www.newegg.com/p/0DF-00ZK-000P6?Description=256GB DDR4&cm_re=256GB_DDR4-_-9SIAE5NAPC8000-_-Product

it looks like this lol

you can pair 4 of those with the W-2295

lol

for quite the expensive server

[split copper]

Uh oh

[somber mica]

i backordered the Gigabyte B450m Ds3h Wifi motherboard about 2 weeks ago and it still isn't in stock, does anybody know how much longer it might be until it is ready to ship?

I have every other component to build my pc except for the motherboard :(

[deep vigil]

It should give you an eta till it will ship

[warped pecan]

hey guys what are your thoughts on the b550 phantom gaming 4? I want to purchase it in the incoming months.

[finite elm]

Still waiting on the AMD Ryzen 3 3300x :c it's not available for me yet

[digital kernel]

Not available or already out of stock?

[finite elm]

It was never available for me ☹️ so unless the sold out like in the first 12 hours they weren't ever available

[gritty patio]

they did lmao

on the day of the first release i fell asleep at 3 and woke up at 8

so within a 5hour timespan they sold it and it sold out

i was pissed

[finite elm]

:(

Would the 3200 be a good substitute? Or should I just wait T.T

[gritty patio]

lmao no

just buy a 3600 at this point

i couldnt wait anylonger

[finite elm]

Sadness

[gritty patio]

and you'll be futureproofing yourself

i know

Pain.

[finite elm]

Not myself. My brother lol

[gritty patio]

rip

wait lmoao

**lmao

i just saw ur name

[finite elm]

Yeee

[shy breach]

Me clicking in these dims...

[finite elm]

Lol

[naive pendant]

What's the difference between atx and micro atx mobos?

[split copper]

Big smol

Itx more smol

[naive pendant]

Cause with the prices being everywhere and regular atxs being sold out, I might go micro

[split copper]

Sure

Just means a bit less PCIe slots

[naive pendant]

I only need 1 m2 slot, and a pcie slot for my gpu

As far as I know of

[split copper]

Should have room for more even on mATX

[naive pendant]

Well as far as I know of that's all the hardware that I have that requires pcie

Never built a desktop before so....

[split copper]

Sometimes the good prices are mATX, sometimes they're ATX

H97 boards are better priced ATX than mATX

[naive pendant]

Well matx seems to be in better stock

[split copper]

That's a board I might need to get because my H81 board might be dying

You can backorder

[naive pendant]

I'm going AMD 5 3600x

[split copper]

Will take longer, but at least you can still buy

[naive pendant]

Well, I'm going to pcpp to look at matxs

[split copper]

Ok ^^

[naive pendant]

@split copper

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fk7v6h/asus-prime-b450-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-b450-plus
Thoughts?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dQgzK8/asrock-b450m-pro4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-pro4

[merry prawn]

is the stock cooler that comes with the ryzen 7 3700x enough or am i going to need a better one?

[neat estuary]

Its ok if u dont push it hard

[split copper]

Looks decent enough

Good vrm coolers on both

Count fan headers to see if they have enough for the amount of fans you want to use

[naive pendant]

3 fans 2 rgb@split copper

[merry prawn]

define "too hard"? i don't plan on anything 4k

[hollow thorn]

What will you do with it

Gaming will be fine maybe like 80c max

But start doing p95/f@h/that kinda stuff you'll prob get 90c+ into the iffy territory

Ambient room temp also mstters

[merry prawn]

it'll be gaming and revit/cad modeling

[hollow thorn]

Should be fine

[inner root]

Hey all. I'm geting an ASRock x570 Extreme4 mobo, and want some DDR4-3600. Is RAM something I can go off of the QVL for?

Namely, I've had my eye on some G.SKILL Ripjaws RAM, 2x16GB at CAS16, while the QVL at best shows things either 4x8GB at more than twice the price or at much worse CAS timing

[hollow thorn]

Qvl just means tested, ram off the qvl work fine 90% of the time.

[inner root]

Good to know, thanks 🙂

[hollow thorn]

I'm running Trident z neo 3600cl16 2x16gb that's off the qvl for my motherboard that work fine at xmp speeds.

[inner root]

Great 🙂

[spare gyro]

Yeah I’m running an 8x16 cl14 trident neo kit that’s not on my MB’s qvl and wasn’t on the board I just swapped froms qvl either.

[spice spindle]

I have an MSI Pro B450M Pro Max Micro ATX on the way for a new computer im building this summer from Newegg, I'm just curious about what I'm getting myself into, like I'm hoping that's a good piece from what I've read in the specs

[finite elm]

Looks good to me o.O what are you pairing it with?

[naive pendant]

I have a i5 4430 currently and I want to upgrade to an AMD Ryzen 5. I don't know if my motherboard supports that cpu neither know how cpu compatibility works. My motherboard is a ASUS A88XM-A. Can anyone help me?

[lavish dome]

I don't have a Pentium no more

the package is chinese but im canadian

[naive pendant]

Nice dude

[finite elm]

@naive pendant you'll need to get a new motherboard, they have different sockets

[tacit hemlock]

Most likely new ram too

[finite elm]

^I'd suggest any msi board within your budget. Look for one with "max" in the name and they'll support 3rd gen ryzen.

[naive pendant]

Oh, are there any other good cpus that my motherboard supports?

[finite elm]

Tomahawk max, pro m-2 max, etc

[tacit hemlock]

Most of em should support it by now anyway

[naive pendant]

I won't buy a motherboard, I only need a good cpu, I got 125 euro budget for a cpu

So If you find any good cpu's that support my motherboard, It will be much appreciated!

[finite elm]

@naive pendant I think the I7 4790k is the best you can get

[naive pendant]

The cheapest option?

[finite elm]

Depends on what you intend to use the PC for

[naive pendant]

I normally use it for Gaming/Streaming

[finite elm]

Streaming on a quad core? _ how do you do it?

[naive pendant]

um

I just try and stream Fortnite and some other games

I have lag

but I try

[finite elm]

Ah

What's your budget for getting a new CPU?

[naive pendant]

125

euros

but if there is a small price difference

like 5-10 euros

I can make it like 135

or something like that

[finite elm]

I'd check on the I7 I suggested. You might be able to find a used one around the price.
There are used ones in the USA for around 200$

[naive pendant]

Well, I live in Greece and the only shop that had an i7 4790k was sold out. I can try and find a used one if my dad agrees.

[finite elm]

Ye! (: I hope you can find it

[neat estuary]

Well this is ridiculous already. That B550 I said was shipped half a week ago? It’s still on it’s way to UPS in Baldwin CA

Either it was lost in transfer or they all on strike

[naive pendant]

rip, I couldn't find anything

Can you maybe list some cpus that are compatible? @finite elm (sorry for pinging)

[finite elm]

http://www.cpu-world.com/Sockets/Socket_1150_LGA1150_H3.html @naive pendant these have the same socket

[ornate mountain]

Hi guys! New to building a pc and the motherboard I bought it faulty and I need to buy a whole new one

I have a few in mind but I was wondering if I could run it by anyone in here who might be more knowledgeable?

[main pulsar]

how do you know the motherboard is faulty

[ornate mountain]

Built the entire computer- all lights, fans, everything on - no display. Paid someone to figure out what was wrong and they told me it was ram slot 2

Both my ram sticks work in a different build, both work in slot one and neither in slot 2

[main pulsar]

how many ram slots does your motherboard have?

only 2?

[ornate mountain]

2

Yes

Mini itx build

[devout moth]

stubbygubs#6057 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[supple monolith]

Any chance you can rma/return it

[ornate mountain]

Btw biggest pain

I can return it but this board is sold out everywhere

[supple monolith]

Well, you may be able to rma it and get a replacement.

[ornate mountain]

So now I’m facing an issue finding a motherboard for my processor that also fits in my mini build and compatible with all other parts i already own

[main pulsar]

so does the system start up fine with only one dimm inside the working ram slot?

[ornate mountain]

They cant replace it they’re sold out

Yes^

[buoyant chasm]

hey stub what's your mobo? does it have 4 slot for rams

[supple monolith]

See above; no

[main pulsar]

so the error is somewhere from the cpus second memory channel to the dimm slot,

it is very unlikely the cpu is at fault here tho

like, very unlikely, but possible

[buoyant chasm]

yeah could be just bios tweaking and configurations

[main pulsar]

no, its definetly a hardware issue

[ornate mountain]

Like I said I have 0.1% knowledge on building wise- so the person I paid to find the issue also said he cleared the cmo?

Hope I said that right

[supple monolith]

cmos

[ornate mountain]

And still nothing

[main pulsar]

but, if the system refuses to post with both ram sticks, then it couldnt be the cpu, because if it were, only the one dimm would be detected

[buoyant chasm]

@ornate mountain so let me get this straight, the pc wont boot up if you ony use the 2nd slot, correct?

[ornate mountain]

@buoyant chasm correct

Well the system turns on- like all the lights and fans turns on

The lighting on the case turns on

[main pulsar]

so it must be a bad trace on the board, or a bad solder joint holding the dimm slot, or maybe try checking the cpu socket and dimm slot for debris,

[ornate mountain]

Everything is on but there is no display and I cant get into bios

[buoyant chasm]

yeah that's usually what happens when there's a bad ram, everything comes on no display but in your case the ram is working so gotta be the faulty slot

[main pulsar]

make sure the dimm slot and cpu socket are clean first

[buoyant chasm]

could you check again and insert it one more and make sure it snugs properly, yeah, do a little cleaning on the faulty slot maybe blow air on it

[ornate mountain]

Correct. So im able to return this board but this board is sold out everywhere and I guess I was maybe asking for some help/ advice on a good motherboard that fits my build

The person who helped me on pc part picker is mia lol

[main pulsar]

i assume you are using an AM4 motherboard?

and what cpu

[ornate mountain]

It was a asus rog strix z390–I mini itx lga 1151 motherboard

[main pulsar]

oh ok

[ornate mountain]

Cpu is an intel i5 9600k

And i am now aware that im super outdated with that lol

But I have no idea what im doing lmfao

[main pulsar]

eh, it works

[ornate mountain]

I just want to play my game!!

Yeah its alright

[main pulsar]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-z390-i-gaming/p/N82E16813119159

well, its in stock at wegg

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145097?Item=N82E16813145097&quicklink=true

also in stock

or, if you just wanna go super cheap and dont care to overclock

https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-h310i-plus-r2-0-csm/p/N82E16813119181?Item=N82E16813119181&quicklink=true

this

altho, I dont think you can oc memory on h310 either

yeah, the third one only supports ram up to 2666, so i would suggest the gigabyte one

[ornate mountain]

What is your impression on the difference between link 1 and 2

[main pulsar]

link 2 is cheaper

[ornate mountain]

Hahahha yes but other than that is there anything outstanding

[main pulsar]

for what you need, they will both do exactly the same thing

[ornate mountain]

Okay perfect, I appreciate your help and your time

Thank you!!

[main pulsar]

np

[lethal glacier]

Okay so dumb question but a mobo comes with the screws and the thing you screw the screws into roght?

[fallen lynx]

the case does

sometimes the standoffs are NOT pre-installed in the case but will be in the parts bag

[lethal glacier]

Ahhh okay. So a mobo doesn’t come with screws. Thanks

[naive pendant]

I have never seen preinstalled standoffs.

[charred venture]

cheaper cases have them preinstalled

[main pulsar]

most cases ive seen have them preinstalled

[naive pendant]

I guess I never used cheap cases so that might be why. Somewhere over 1,000 systems made and I had to screw them in on every one. lol

[thorny gate]

anyone have any thoughts on this pcie4 board? https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-b550-f-gam-wif/p/N82E16813119311?Description=ASUS STRIX B550&cm_re=ASUS_STRIX_B550-_-13-119-311-_-Product&quicklink=true

only 209 12 phase or so it says

im currently using a asrock x370 fatality gaming x had a ryzen 7 1700 in it now have a ryzen 5 3600 in it and want x570 but the board i want is 300+ this ones 209 and almost same

[meager kraken]

I generally struggle between a Strix vs. ASRock decision myself. But what are you looking to gain from the new board? Are you planning to OC? Is PCIe v4 important (noting that you'd need a processor upgrade to make use of it)?

[thorny gate]

i have the r5 3600 this certain board has pcie4 vs the other strix b550

the other ones have pcie3

[smoky summit]

Is 64gb of 3600mghz too overkill for a pc that I want to use for 8 years?

[tacit hemlock]

Depends on what your using it for

[buoyant chasm]

yeah, its overkill especially if you're not hitting the 32gig mark,

[warm fulcrum]

im gonna be doing a new build when the 3000 series GPUs come out. What mobo? B550 or X570?

[main pulsar]

depends on whats cheapest

for your needs, they are basically identical

assuming your just gaming

well, most people dont need the features that an x570 comes with

[gritty patio]

but they cost ab the same as a b550 even if you aren't utilizing the features

depending on far the prices come down for b550 around release of the 3000 series then i'd get an x570

[warm fulcrum]

i was looking at the B550 Asus prime. Its the white one and around $155. I was chatting with someone who said that the X570 is better performance

@main pulsar

@gritty patio

[main pulsar]

there is no difference between b550 and x570

for most people anyway

[warm fulcrum]

I just want it for gaming

[main pulsar]

then it makes no difference

[warm fulcrum]

ok so then the B550 then due to them being a bit cheaper

so then what is the point of the X570?

[upbeat lichen]

usually the X series boards are aimed at the hardcore enthusiast crowd, more support for pushing overclocking, things like that

more robust power delivery, etc

[warm fulcrum]

oh ok. Im getting the ryzen 7 3700xt and i wanted to do SLIGHT overclocking

[split copper]

Might as well let it overclock itself

[warm fulcrum]

wym?

[split copper]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don't have a Ryzen computer

[warm fulcrum]

well it doesnt let you OC itself

[split copper]

I've heard of Ryzen auto overclocking though, should do it on its own

[warm fulcrum]

ive never had one either.

im waiting for the refresh

CPUs

[gritty patio]

oh the Xt's

nice

[warm fulcrum]

yep!

[gritty patio]

yeah but for me personally i would go with an x570

unless you can really put that money elsewhere

then buy the b550

[warm fulcrum]

but either way there both awesome boards?

[gritty patio]

both better than b450 features wise

[warm fulcrum]

oh ok thx man'

[gritty patio]

yw ❤️

[pearl crow]

Asus tuf b450 plus or gigabyte aorus elite? I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel now since tomahawk is nowhere to be seen

[solemn talon]

Anyone knows what's going on with MSI's X570 Tomahawk board? It's no where to be found.

[pearl crow]

Just running r5 3600, possibly r7 in future

[grim mica]

Anyone knows what's going on with MSI's X570 Tomahawk board? It's no where to be found.
@solemn talon well y'know, the pandemic, and B550 rollin' out

even the b450 gaming pro carbon max that msi announced in March isn't on sale yet

but I think they probably dropped that one because of b550

[cyan falcon]

prob

[lethal glacier]

Will a Ryzen 7 3700x work with a b350-plus mobo

?

[hollow thorn]

With bios update it should

[lethal glacier]

So I can’t use AMD’s short term processor loan boot kit since I have a b350-plus right?

[neat estuary]

450 is barely compatible with 3000 series. Are you certain man?

[clear walrus]

is a gigabyte ud x570 a ok motherboard to pair with a ryzen 5 3600 and does it allow for overclocking or should i get something else

[hollow thorn]

@lethal glacier I'm assuming you're asking because you already own the b350?

[rocky edge]

Will threadripper price decrease with the release of the new and CPUs?

[hollow thorn]

likely not

Ryzen and threadripper are different markets

[tacit hemlock]

Ya ^

Plus motherboards are still gonna be crazy expensive

[hollow thorn]

Unless you mean next generation of threadripper

but idk when next generation of threadripper coming soooo

[lethal glacier]

@hollow thorn yeah I have one from an older pc

[gritty patio]

@clear walrus yeah x570s should be able to oc

[hollow thorn]

@lethal glacier then use the previous chip to update bios

[lethal glacier]

Would love to lol. Will probably just need a new mobo. Don’t have the old chip

[chilly adder]

how much memory should i have on my pc

i have a 500gig ssd but ppl say i should get another hard drive

im using it for mostly gaming and cad and such

[main pulsar]

if you run out of storage, you need more

[chilly adder]

dam i shouldve thought of that

not all the parts came yet so im just wondering if i should have a lil more

[main pulsar]

i mean, 500gb is a decent amount

60 of that is gonna be os, drivers, programs

that leaves you 400gb for games and files

[chilly adder]

hmm

[main pulsar]

i have everything except game files installed to a 128gb ssd

im only using half of it

that includes game launchers, tons of other programs i use,

if you have the money, a 2TB hdd is only $60

slap your games on that and your set

[finite elm]

^

The Seagate barracuda is literally always on sale

[chilly adder]

ok ty

[potent raft]

I have a question please. my I9-9900 CPU says it uses DDR4-2666. I bought DDR4-3600. Will this be ok to use?

is anybody here?

[charred venture]

yes

xmp

[deep vigil]

yes

[robust plank]

@neat estuary @bold arch So I got the package that was supposed to be the ROG motherboard but it's actually just a cooling kit for the motherboard. It's just a heatsink and a tiny fan lol

[neat estuary]

my b550 is actually here tomorrow now

[robust plank]

I can't post a picture but that's it

[spare gyro]

Thats a pretty big mistake to get a cooling kit and not the mb

[charred venture]

o no

refund

[robust plank]

it was $37 for a board that's usually $400-500 so it was a gamble. I'm returning it though

[hollow quartz]

You may have answered this but what is the best motherboard for ryzen 5 360p

3600

Trying to build a 800$ pc

[deep vigil]

@hollow quartz purpose uf build?

[copper badge]

For the 3600, is the max ram speed 3733, or is that just the reccomended max

It doesn't affect the RAM I'm getting, just if I'll OC it or not

[hollow thorn]

I mean

Reccomended

It's not a limit, but it's what they expect the max you'll be able to get with the memory topology

[copper badge]

Alright thanks

[north barn]

Does anyone know if this should be a good board considering it's one of the only b550s in stock? https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b550-extreme4/p/N82E16813157933?Item=N82E16813157933

[deep vigil]

@north barn i would rather get x570

[north barn]

The problem is little to none are in stock and the ones that are in stock are not well priced

[lethal glacier]

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ROG-B550-F-Motherboard-Addressable/dp/B088VSTS9H/ref=zg_bs_1048424_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=E71ZNM97WXSYT4CMZAA9

How’s this mobo?

[deep vigil]

There are good x570boards

At reasonable prices

Just go and look on pcpp

[lethal glacier]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-x570-gaming-x/p/N82E16813145161?item=N82E16813145161&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813145161&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI44687fuZ6gIV5x6tBh3miQQdEAQYAiABEgIlVfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Like this x570?

[deep vigil]

No

If your willing to spend 200 on a mobo there are plenty of choices

[hollow thorn]

don't do MSI gaming plus

gaming x is meh but also has a bit of a toasty vrm iirc

[narrow eagle]

I saw online (redit) that Asrock is a reliable board maker. I always thought they were low end. Apparently I was mistaken. Anyway, b550 asrock board gonna be paired with 3300x and 5600/5700. I was looking at the steel legend, can anyone reccomend an asrock b550 that is robust but doesn't have all the bells and whistles that increase the price?

[neat estuary]

Lmao. Dude go check out the vram reviews by hardware unboxed o the z490 Asrock @narrow eagle Are they paying you to drop this crap here?

[narrow eagle]

I wish someone paid me for that... lol. Well, how is the b550 line? I want to here what others have to say on the matter. anyone here get a chance to try out Asrocks b550 line?

hear

[neat estuary]

Don’t pick Asrock. It’s that simple.

[narrow eagle]

whatever I cant spell

aha

and what do you recommend. I'm looking to stretch the dollar for the mobo

[neat estuary]

The comparable boards from other brands in the same price range are consistently better in performance where Asrock spends their design team budget on RGB and bling

The MSI Mortar is the best budget b550 I’ve seen so far

But look up Hardware Unboxed YouTube channels and watch the reviews. He is very good at explaining them

[narrow eagle]

ok ty

I'll look into that

I have used msi for that passed two boards. Eh. the meg 390 ace is good as far as I can tell. Got it from another company for cheap. (170 used) I don't do anything special with the features. the g5 z370 or z270 (casnt remember) I had some issues with the usb on it. small but annoying problem.

thanks

[hollow thorn]

Well

for VRMs buildzoid will prob do better

anyways

[neat estuary]

If you spend enough you will get a good board from even Asrock. But it’s not at sub 200$

[hollow thorn]

Ryzen VRMs don't matter as much in terms of efficiency and phases

not like you'll overclock it much, or push that much power through it

[narrow eagle]

that makes sense. Iwas hoping for less then 120 for a board

[neat estuary]

True. But some of the numbers we see even at stock settings are horrendous

[hollow thorn]

I mean

Cooling the VRM is a thing to consider

But a decent board is all you need, b550 mortar was out of stock when I checked it last

Also what numbers at stock ..?

[narrow eagle]

hmm? what numbers at stock what?

[hollow thorn]

"some of the numbers we see even at stock settings are horrendous"

Haven't seen any b550 boards with major issues yet

[narrow eagle]

ah. I was thinking that the asus tuf x570 which is basically the same price as the mortar b550m and in stock last I checked... Should i just go with that?

[hollow thorn]

Tho granted I only looked through Asus and MSI offerings so far

[narrow eagle]

never mind its not in stockl

[hollow thorn]

X570-p at 150$ is good if you can find it at that

X570 plus wifi or whatever it's called at 200$ is good but it's 200$

[neat estuary]

I personally jumped on the B550 Aorus Pro. But another 20$ more could see you in a decent x570. Just do your research and make sure it will work for you.

Some of the Asrock B550s throttle on load tests with a 3900x. This is ridiculous. They will run a Ryzen 5 3600 just fine as long as your ok with 80c on vrm. If you insight on owning a 100$ board then by all means. Let er buck

[hollow thorn]

lol okay I'll check out the asrock boards later tonight

but with MSI boards

holy crap did they go for good vrms

huge heatsinks

on very efficient 60a stages

memory topology seemed to be lacking tho

[neat estuary]

Ok bois. It’s happening

[hollow thorn]

4x8gb?

[neat estuary]

Ya

Gonna throw the stock cooler in for now. I got a AIO here in a few days

[hollow thorn]

Which aio

[neat estuary]

Liquid freezer 240

[hollow thorn]

Good

Anything else is a waste of money imo

[finite elm]

Where's the coke go in that build

[hollow thorn]

inside the loop of course

[deep vigil]

Damn you beat me too it

[hollow thorn]

jk in your mouth

[finite elm]

Imagine spilling coke inside your pc

😭

[deep vigil]

lick it up

[neat estuary]

Be quiet has this coming from front panel ??? Where the heck it going.

I’d say it powers the RGB on the case

[digital kernel]

It connects to sata power

From the PSU

[neat estuary]

Kk. I’ll look for that when I get to psu. This is literally my first build ever. Smooth so far 😇

[tacit hemlock]

How can I tell how much clearance I have for a top radiator in my case

I tried to just use a tape measure but it seems inaccurate lol

oops wrong channel

[neat estuary]

And she is live

[charred venture]

pogchamp

[naive pendant]

hey hey

guess who just recieved his 1080

GTX 1080 hybrid

picked it up used for about $350

[tulip raft]

Noice?

[neat estuary]

Guys anyone know where u get a cheap windows key?

[naive pendant]

ebay

[neat estuary]

kk. ill check\

[lethal glacier]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-b450-tomahawk-max/p/N82E16813144267?item=N82E16813144267&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813144267&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn-yWhbab6gIVIwnnCh21wAeQEAQYASABEgLJrPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Decent mobo. Seems to have good reviews

7 3700x and 2070s

[rose sonnet]

What kind of motherboard would I need for the AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16 Core Processor

[supple monolith]

One with an AM4 socket 🙂
You'd likely want a B450/550 or X470/570 chipset if you spent that much on a CPU

[tacit hemlock]

If your gonna get a 3950x might as well get a x570, but if you don't want to spend that much the b550s are nice

[mild jackal]

x570 aorus master or asus crosshair VIII Hero are popular picks for that chip

[finite elm]

Opinions on the Asrock Phantom Gaming 4? 0.0 I already built it, just wanna know what ya think?

[rich sphinx]

Opinions on the Asrock Phantom Gaming 4? 0.0 I already built it, just wanna know what ya think?
@finite elm Same mobo I used. Has worked well so far

[bold yoke]

could anyone recommend a good video to explain step by step tuning cpu/infinity fabric/memory timings? I have a ryzen 5 3600 and 2x8 3600mhz cl16 RAM on MSI B450 Gaming Plus mATX. Thanks in advance

[surreal sun]

thoughts on the asus x570-p?

[gritty patio]

sexc

[ionic hamlet]

So, are the MSI b550 boards turning out to be pretty decent?

[gritty patio]

Just buy an x570 for the same prices

[mild canyon]

What do you think I can sell this PC fir?

For

[neat estuary]

@mild canyon why don’t you tell people what the components are

[wind field]

How good is this motherboard I am looking for one under 300 but something that will run my ryzen 3900x cpu this is the motherboard
MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI Motherboard (AMD AM4, DDR4, PCIe 4.0, SATA 6Gb/s, M.2, USB 3.2 Gen 2, AX Wi-Fi 6, HDMI, ATX)

And I found it new for around 250

[charred venture]

not bad

[wind field]

Ok thanks and it's a ryzen 9 3900x I was just wondering because I heard about overheating

Problems with that motherboard

[hollow thorn]

VRM overheating is just MSI x570 a pro and MSI x570 edge wifi

Pro crabon wifi is fine

[wind field]

Ok thanks

[polar fern]

Having issue with ram today, not reading in bios

I reinstalled my gpu though

but that shouldn’t be a factor of the problem

[naive pendant]

Have you tried swapping the sticks around and seeing if it's one vs. the other?

[polar fern]

yea that’s what I did

I’ll try switching it back if nothing goes good

[naive pendant]

So, can anyone come up with good reasons to get something other than MP34?

[long geyser]

sales, or flex a gen4 drive

[naive pendant]

I've debating on the gen4, if it's actually worth it

I'm not real familiar with Team Group either

[long geyser]

TG hasnt been all too big. But they've been name brand enough I guess to be noticeably okay. Havent heard much of their support. Which is good for lack of bad things but also bad for lack of good things

[naive pendant]

Yeah, that's like what I discovered with ASUS. I went about 10 years never having an issue, so I discovered, rather rudely, when I did finally have a problem, that they sucked at CS, lol.

I'm always leery of newer companies because of it.

[long geyser]

I mean Asus was probably fine before. But seems like they really want to kill their company recently so eh

[naive pendant]

I first noticed it about 7 or so years ago, that things had started to change. The quality wasn't quite the same. Then I actually had to deal with CS, and that was a nightmare.

Newegg finally stepped in because ASUS wasn't handling things. I actually felt bad.

[long geyser]

idk much of before. Bit before my time of PCs so being a pleb before I seen no issues with Asus. But over the past bit I have seen Asus just being a child. Over the past maybe 1.5 years I have really noticed it.

[naive pendant]

Which means they def. haven't taken any steps to improve what I started seeing.

[neat estuary]

I also got a ROG motherboard chipset fan kit I never ordered. 😂

[polar fern]

I have no solutions

My system keeps detecting it and not detecting it

I don’t know what I can do now

[worldly garnet]

Have you checked if any pins were bent on your cpu? @polar fern

[polar fern]

Guess what fixed it

A clean windows reinstall

smh

I stressed for over 3 hours

just to reinstall windows

@worldly garnet

[worldly garnet]

Gotta love Microsoft lol

[naive pendant]

Hopefully it stays running without issues

[worldly garnet]

^^^

[polar fern]

Hopefully

It was because I installed my gpu again and for some reason it caused so many errors

Kinda wack

But it worked out in the end

Thanks for the help Bro’s

[neat estuary]

Anyone know why my PC powers down when it should be sleeping?

[polar fern]

uh

I think that’s normal

It doesn’t fully shut down though

[winged vale]

Hello,
Does B450 mobo supports ryzen 3000 out of the box?

[midnight pollen]

Bought new it should, if used then maybe not

[winged vale]

Alright thanks mate

[worldly garnet]

You can also go to the brand’s website to check for cpu compatibilities or you could look into getting a mobo with a “flash bios” option that way you won’t need a cpu to update your mobo’s bios and you can just install it from a flash drive

[neat estuary]

@polar fern Its coming to a full shutdown. when i press any button i reload threw logo screen

[gritty patio]

@polar fern is it running at the right xmp setting???

[stuck iron]

Intel i7-9700k AMD Ryzen 7 3700X? (The main game I play is Rust)

[digital kernel]

@stuck iron Ryzen 3600 and a better GPU

[stuck iron]

for price and performance or jus price @digital kernel

[cerulean nova]

@stuck iron the 3600 is much better value. If you save the money on a cpu and spend it on a gpu, you will have much better performance than getting a better cpu

[stuck iron]

Got it thanks

What would be a really good realizable mobo

[cerulean nova]

Did you mean reliable?

[stuck iron]

Nvm

[zenith gull]

is the b550 gigabyte aorus pro ac a good mobo?

[scarlet basin]

anyone know where i can find a 10980xe for a reasonable price

b&h has it for 1179 but its backordered and idk how long thatll take to be in stock

[deep vigil]

@scarlet basin why that cpu?

[scarlet basin]

it makes the most sense for what im doing

and i already have the moo

mobo

i do gaming cadding rendering

[deep vigil]

Thread ripper would make so much more sense

[scarlet basin]

eh

too late now lol

[deep vigil]

Eh

If you could return the moo

thread ripper would make much more sense

[scarlet basin]

its also more expensive

tryna stick to a budget lol

[hollow thorn]

I mean

if you want budget

3950x

easy

10980xe retails for like 1k usd

[scarlet basin]

true

i want 8 ram slots tho

im in it for the looks lol

[main pulsar]

10980xe is decent price for what u get tho

[scarlet basin]

ya

[main pulsar]

3950x is 700

[scarlet basin]

the problem is its out of stock everywhere

[main pulsar]

u get 12/24 more for 300

[scarlet basin]

mhm

[hollow thorn]

@main pulsar ? Iirc 10980xe is 18c36t compared to 3950x at 16c32t

[main pulsar]

is it not 28?

ohh shoot

[hollow thorn]

Lololol

[main pulsar]

thats the Xeon W series

[hollow thorn]

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/198017/intel-core-i9-10980xe-extreme-edition-processor-24-75m-cache-3-00-ghz.html

[main pulsar]

smacks 4hed

[hollow thorn]

Ye w3175 or whatever

3950x better value :p

[main pulsar]

and the platnum 2nd gen xeons

yeah, 3950x is the way to go

[scarlet basin]

lol

[remote acorn]

can someone piece together a amd cpu/mobo/ram build for me for around 300 euros because im not that good in selecting parts. im thinking of a 5 2600 with 16 gb 3000 mhz ram only i dont know which mobo to get. the cpu costs 135 euros and the ram 75 so i have 90 euros left

[scarlet basin]

Ok

So before y'all smash on me for going intel

Just answer my question lol

I was gonna get and overclock a 10980xe, but it's not around anywhere and my last source for it just sold out. If I go 9980xe and overclock, does it matter?

As in will I get the same performance?

[mild jackal]

Very close

[scarlet basin]

Ok

Thanks!

[neat estuary]

So solution to my shutdown issue yesterday. My PC would instantly crash stop whenever I hit sleep. I ended up going into Command Prompt and turning off some power settings as found in a video. That finally fixed it

[rose sonnet]

I want memory

Ddr3

1600 speed

240 pins

Rgb

Cheap

Today

[digital kernel]

newegg filters

[main pulsar]

lol why 1600

[digital kernel]

ddr3 too

[main pulsar]

also, RGB ram wasnt a thing before DDR4

well, I think very few modules had it

https://www.ebay.com/itm/G-SKILL-4-GB-DIMM-2666-MHz-DDR3-Memory-F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL/153981104215?epid=215831232

nvm, the dimm says PC3-12800

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Corsair-PC3-19200-8GB-DIMM-2400-MHz-PC3-19200-DDR3-Memory-CMY8GX3M2A2400C11R/264771335990

thats better

[naive pendant]

if i want best performance and overclock do i get the 10900k or 10900kf?

[warm path]

10900KF because the hot GPU in the 10900K won’t throttle your overall Overclock in the KF @naive pendant

[rose sonnet]

I want ddr3 and 1600 because that's why fits my motherboard

If I get higher ddr3 my computer

[scarlet basin]

What color memory should I get

I'm looking at Corsair vengeance