#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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gritty patio
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rip

polar fern
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besides ram and stuff

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thats about it

gritty patio
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i can, but why upgrade older generation parts for the same price i can build a new one

polar fern
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yea true

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hol up non modular is smaller?

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or what is that

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for the psu

gritty patio
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it means you have a psu with a lot of cords attached

polar fern
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is getting a full modular better

gritty patio
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since your case it a matx i would advise that or a semi modular

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also whats the rating of that psu

polar fern
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its 4 stars

gritty patio
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lmao nvm nvm

polar fern
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would you consider that decent

gritty patio
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just link it

gritty patio
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i'll tell you what the "rating" is

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okay you see where it says "gold" in the titl;e

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**title

polar fern
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yea?

gritty patio
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theres a rating system for psu where the higher rating the more efficient it is

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it goes from 80+

polar fern
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so this one is good?

gritty patio
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to 80+ titanium

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yeah actually its a pretty good deal being gold

polar fern
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ight bettt

gritty patio
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only falls two ranks short to the best

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i have a bronze lmao

polar fern
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man, im scared tho

gritty patio
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why?

polar fern
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what if i mess something up

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when i build it

gritty patio
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its kinda hard to do imo

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i've already watched so many building videos

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im pretty comfortable with touching the parts im so familiar with in the videoes

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**videos

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also all the parts should come with a warranty

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so dont be too scared lmao

polar fern
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but that costs extra money?

gritty patio
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you'll get new parts one way or another?

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wym

polar fern
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dont the warranties cost money

gritty patio
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no like a manufacturer warranty

polar fern
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ah ok

gritty patio
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it comes with the part

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yeah

polar fern
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free of charge?

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right

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?

gritty patio
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most of the time yes

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maybe a return shipping fee

polar fern
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thats not much

gritty patio
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which arent expensive

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yeah

polar fern
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hopefully everything goes good

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if i mess it up ima have to wait longer to play

gritty patio
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just lmk if you have anymore questions or want to lower the build price to get better peripherals and such

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truee

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but you'll be fine

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im off to bed now gn

polar fern
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alright

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peace out

gritty patio
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lata

quaint current
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@mild jackal any suggestions for z490 motherboards?

mild jackal
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Budget?

quaint current
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under $250 or around there

mild jackal
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If you're not an overclocker nerd, I'd shop around that price range on the brand of your preference, pick based on preference for looks + features.

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I like Asus.

quaint current
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yeah theres like no reviews for them yet so im kinda lost lol

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huh theres already a b460 board

burnt flare
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Hello i just purchased 2 days ago an Asus ROG B450 F-Gaming mobo from newegg and I’m gonna pair it with a Ryzen 3700x will it work ? Does the motherboard have the latest bios to support 3rd gen ?

gritty patio
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yes it should @burnt flare

queen path
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does anyone know where I can get a 10600k/where I should be looking for it?

midnight pollen
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maybe places like newegg, B&H, microcenter, etc.

charred venture
robust prawn
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Hey, I want to to get a GIGABYTE B450M DS3H motherboard for my Ryzen 5 3600, but I'm not sure if it will come with the updated bios. Does anyone know if there is a way to get it updated before it gets shipped or is it kind of just luck of the draw?

gritty patio
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i believe most of the newer ones come with it but im not too sure

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just check the reviews i suppose and see what they're saying

mild jackal
hollow thorn
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Damn

compact sun
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whats going on with the prices of 1000w power supplies.....

quaint current
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the psu market is really wacky rn

gritty patio
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$1000 lmao

haughty forge
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freaking dollar a watt

mild jackal
gritty patio
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lmao its gonna blow up

digital kernel
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Anyone know how much wattage the power delivery system on an ASRock b450m/ac can give?

mild jackal
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Check the 2nd pin

digital kernel
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B450m/ac isn't on there... which one would be the closest?

digital kernel
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aNUuLCWCjbbuB255mDsG47RpT2LU9dSgEMW9kQe9gL0/edit#gid=0
This isn't the best organized table, but as far as I checked the numbers are valid

polar fern
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if my mobo says "Supports DDR4 Memory, up to 3466+(OC) MHz " does this mean I can use 3600mhz ram or 3466mhz is the limit

digital kernel
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What mobo exactly?

polar fern
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b450

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m

digital kernel
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What brand?

polar fern
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msi?

digital kernel
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Do you have 3600MHz memory to test it on?

polar fern
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nah im gonna order parts

digital kernel
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What CPU do you have?

polar fern
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I ordered the ryzen 5 3600

digital kernel
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Depending on which msi board it is you should be able to pull it off. How much more expensive is the 3600MHz ram?

polar fern
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the ram sticks are 83

digital kernel
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Where are you ordering them from?

polar fern
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newegg

dire wharf
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SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0.. Dont know much about this but would it run just as well on an AMD MOBO

digital kernel
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@polar fern I believe newegg would let you return if it doesn't work, but I would check with their official customer service first

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@dire wharf Is this the ram you already have?

polar fern
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i might just get a diff mobo maybe

digital kernel
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b550 should be here soon 🙂

dire wharf
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No its just cheaper than the non (S)Ram. I havent built my pc yet still researching

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I am waiting on the B550 along with the new Ryzens to come out before I build just learning as much as i can in the mean time

digital kernel
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What ram are you comparing to that 3600 is cheaper?

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@polar fern I'd say it would be worth a shot 🙂

dire wharf
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Same ram as far as speed but it is DRAM vs SRAM and it doesnt say intel xmp

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Im sorry its SDRAM vs DRAM

digital kernel
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Do you have links you can share? You'll have to remove the http part for now

dire wharf
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Yea give me a minute

digital kernel
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👍

dire wharf
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cant put links up actually here

digital kernel
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Just take off the http and it will work

digital kernel
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They both should be xmp, the other just doesn't say it

dire wharf
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Ok so the intel part shouldnt matter?

digital kernel
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Nope, I'm running ram with intel xmp on an amd system right now

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I am curious though as to why the one kit is sdram and the other is dram

dire wharf
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well in the link they both say sdram so maybe they both are

digital kernel
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Possibly

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The main difference in the prices are probably more from the timings than anything else. The more expensive ram has less latency

dire wharf
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ahh gotcha and how noticeable would that be?

digital kernel
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Meh

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not much

digital kernel
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mATX is micro atx

polar fern
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oooh

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ight im gonna wait for that mobo

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nvm its not compatible with my cpu feels bad

digital kernel
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oof

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Time for a new CPU 🤣

polar fern
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no

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i just ordered it

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so no turning back now

digital kernel
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Wait, you got 3600?

polar fern
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yea

digital kernel
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That mb should support it

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Do you have an old gen ryzen/athalon available?

polar fern
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no this is my first build

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why does a mobo say wifi? but its cheaper?

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why is that so?

digital kernel
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Good question

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Same chip set?

polar fern
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yes am4

digital kernel
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Same chipset though? Are they both b450?

polar fern
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yea

digital kernel
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Huh

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On a side note, are you sure the mobo you had before doesn't support the 3600? It should

polar fern
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the bazooka?

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orrr

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i never had one

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but im looking for one

digital kernel
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The link you posted that you said wouldn't work

polar fern
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i shouldve bought the steel legend mobo yesterday

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it was in stock

digital kernel
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Yup

polar fern
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woke up this morning and it was gone

digital kernel
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Welcome to the club 🙂

polar fern
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lol

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fml

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ill prob just order that when i order my gpu then

gritty patio
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W

polar fern
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yall think that 3 fans would be enough

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for my case

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1 exhaust

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2 intake?

naive pendant
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should be, unless you have really hot components, i dont see the need to add top exhaust, but your system would possibly run cooler than without it

proven sinew
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What motherboard would people recommend paired with a Ryzen 5 3600? I tried getting the B450 Tomahawk max but its always out of stock xD

digital kernel
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A decent b450 should do

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There's a list of motherboards in the pins

daring patio
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B450 Aorus pro

naive pendant
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so looking to build my PC what are the pro and cons of intel vs AMD?

gritty patio
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save your money and get amd @naive pendant

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its just a less expensive platform with more to offer at a given price point

naive pendant
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what are the pros of AMD

gritty patio
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^^

naive pendant
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just cost?

gritty patio
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well their price to performance ratio is better and they offer more cores at a lower price

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the only thing they dont beat intel in is gaming but beat them in every other benchmark

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but they dont lose by much at all and you'll be saving more money

naive pendant
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well I am looking for a peak gaming PC, if cost wasn't an issue would you go Intel?

gritty patio
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nah still no prolly not

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their new 10th gen chips barely outcompete amd last gen chips

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with that being said

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saving money on the amd platform allows for greater spending elsewhere

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like the gpu

naive pendant
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I already have a nice GPU

gritty patio
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say you got the newest i5 but since it's a little on the pricey side you'd have less money to spend on other components

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ohh ok

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what u got?

naive pendant
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going use the 2080ti in my current rig for my first build

gritty patio
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yeah i mean if u wanna save money to put elsewhere then amd

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if u dont really care about cost then intel

naive pendant
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I mean is the performance better, even if not by much?

gritty patio
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but amd is releasing some new chips in July which are supposed to beat intels current gen even though the new amd chips are on an older architecture

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yes technically it is

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but if you want to wait until July the new amd chips are going to beat intel even in gaming

naive pendant
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and when will intel release their new core

gritty patio
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they just did

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thats the thing

naive pendant
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gotcha ty

gritty patio
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amd is using older gen parts and still beating intel lmao

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ya good luck tho

naive pendant
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thanks for your insights

gritty patio
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yw

tacit hemlock
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When are the b550 boards releasing?

jovial nova
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can i update my cpu?

gritty patio
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@tacit hemlock June 16

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@jovial nova wym?

tacit hemlock
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Thx

jovial nova
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like where

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i update drivers on gpu but for the cpu

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@gritty patio
#8191

gritty patio
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What do you need to update for?

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Is your mb not up to date

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Also what cpu are you running?

jovial nova
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rhyzen 1600

gritty patio
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O

jovial nova
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rhyzen 5 1600

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my motherboard is up to date

gritty patio
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Oh then you should be fine I would imagine

jovial nova
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do i need to update driver for cpu

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what is chipset

hollow thorn
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Yes

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how do you update a cpu lol

jovial nova
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im not sure

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please help

gritty patio
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Ik like I don't understand

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Like idk what ur trying to say

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Only thing to update is bios

jovial nova
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msi live update says amd chipset driver

gritty patio
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But if ur mb is up to date then you should be fine

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Oh then ig update it

jovial nova
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idk what is it

hollow thorn
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then install it

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live update does it

tender flint
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x570 ITX boards are like impossible to find in stock.

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ETA for my board has been getting pushed back for a month now.

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To the point that it will be in stock on the 16th.

tacit hemlock
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Boards in general are like impossible to find

warped scroll
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Egg you’re blue now

tacit hemlock
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Sadly yes

warped scroll
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no

tacit hemlock
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No job= no nitro

tender flint
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I'm wondering if I should just get a b550 board when they release, or even a b450 if I can find one. I have heard that AMD has teething issues with new stuff in general. Can you confirm this?

tulip talon
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Noooo egg 😦 it’ll be back soon

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B550 a decent one is ~110

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I would

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But that’s me

tender flint
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There doesn't seem to be an ITX B550 board announced yet

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oof

tacit hemlock
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@tulip talon hopefully peepoSadSip

supple drift
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Howdy, stupid question. Am I supposed to update the bios/ ufei before a cpu upgrade or after the new cpu is installed?

digital kernel
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What motherboard and which cpus?

supple drift
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LGA 1155 motherboard and CPU intel i3

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upgrading to an i5

main pulsar
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what motherboard

supple drift
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LGA 1155

main pulsar
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thats the socket

supple drift
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oh wait srry

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An MT board

main pulsar
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is this a dell optiplex?

supple drift
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Yeah...

main pulsar
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which one, is it a 3010, 7010, or 9010

supple drift
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390

main pulsar
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oh, fancy

supple drift
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Why thank you

main pulsar
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i assume you have a 2nd gen i3?

supple drift
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Yep

main pulsar
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so you can only get 2nd gen cpus, even though the 3rd gen ones will physically fit

supple drift
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I see

main pulsar
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so, after you update the motherboards bios, you can pop in one of these

supple drift
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ty

main pulsar
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also dont forget to buy replacement thermal paste

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you will want to clean off that really old crud and put on new stuff

weak crown
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anyone have any idea how to get aurus sync to recognize my gskill trident z royal ram? tried a few things, and im about near to just doing a fresh windows install to see if that works

ionic hamlet
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... I wish I could afford the Trident Royal RAM. It's so pretty and shiny.

weak crown
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it is, but i wish i could sync the RGB

ionic hamlet
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Though I've nearly talked myself into getting some Trident Zs. Nearly.

olive umbra
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Neos look nice if you can't afford the uncanny valley jewellery store Royals

hollow thorn
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Neo is great, I can sync it with Mobo :p

tacit hemlock
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Neo gang >:D

warped scroll
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Delta RGB gang

neat glacier
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icue gang OUGH

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what do u ppl think of asus PRIME z490-a for an i7-10700kf?

tacit hemlock
tulip talon
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oooga

tacit hemlock
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Wut

tulip talon
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good

tacit hemlock
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k lol

weak crown
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@hollow thorn ouch bro....ouch

midnight pollen
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i'd say google it and check forums, maybe reseat ram sticks. i have aura with trident rgb and it works. i had a few issues with aura and ended up downloading an older version of the software

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occassionally the ram sticks still don't show up but works most of the time after i restart

hollow thorn
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@weak crown wat?

tacit hemlock
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

dire wharf
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is there a noticable difference in 3200mhz ram vs 3600mhz

weak crown
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Neo is great, I can sync it with Mobo :p
@hollow thorn

mild jackal
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If you're using a zen2 cpu, get 3600

hollow thorn
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why is that an ouch

vital cairn
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those who bought the i9 10900 k is it worth it? Does it beat the ryzen 9 3900X?

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or those who bought the i7 10th gen

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anyone who bought an intel 10th cpu

vital cairn
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and should i get an amd cpu or an intel cpu

charred venture
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gaming yes it beats the 3900x

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but that means

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W A I T

vital cairn
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yes

charred venture
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for amd XT series

vital cairn
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when is that coming out

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oh thats the gpu

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well i still think that the rtx 3080 will beat the navi

charred venture
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nope

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the cpus

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3900XT rumored to roll the 10900k in gaming performance

vital cairn
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ah i see

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when is it coming out @charred venture

charred venture
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uhh idk if its been announced

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try googling

vital cairn
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ok

naive pendant
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Does anyone know of a mobo that is compatible with the R5 3600 and in stock?

dusty hollow
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Will there be a huge difference in performance 3000vs 4000 amd

digital kernel
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Likely yes

main pulsar
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There's supposedly a decent perf jump between the two

digital kernel
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Somewhere between 0%-50% increase in ipc 🙂

main pulsar
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It might not be noticable in most things, just depends on what your using the PC for

digital kernel
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One thing that it will make a diference for though... intel will no longer be able to tout the "5%" benefit

charred venture
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a320 boards are compatible with 3200g right?

digital kernel
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Which a320 board?

rigid dragon
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what is the best memory for overclocking that can reach really good speeds and good latency

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4x16

mild jackal
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Samsung b-die

rigid dragon
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I know but could you suggest me a kit

floral breach
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Would anyone have any idea why i can't run the xmp profile on my comp? ASROCK b450 pro4 and i5-9600k

crude path
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is your ram in slot 2 and 4

floral breach
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yes

hollow thorn
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Wdym can't run XMP, what does it do when you try

floral breach
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won't boot, boot cycles

crude path
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so like if ram is 1 2 3 4 starting with one in the far left and 4 in the far right, your ram should be in slot 2 and 4

floral breach
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it's in the right slots..

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it just won't boot when i put the profile on

crude path
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what mobo and what ram

hollow thorn
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Are you selecting the correct profile, sometimes there are multiple

floral breach
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ASROCK b450m pro4

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and corsair 3200 speed

hollow thorn
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Vengeance lpx?

floral breach
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theres only one file to choose.

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and yes

hollow thorn
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Deafkid I assume you're checking qvl now

crude path
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yeh trying to lol

floral breach
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Z370m pro 4 MB

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SORryy

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i big brain lol

hollow thorn
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Also check ram max freq if you can, pro4 has weird max frequency per channel on b450, prob same on z370

floral breach
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z370, that was my bad

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Directly from the page..

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Supports DDR4 4300+(OC)* / 4266(OC) / 4133(OC) / 4000(OC) / 3866(OC) / 3800(OC) / 3733(OC) / 3600(OC) / 3200(OC) / 2933(OC) / 2800(OC) / 2666 / 2400 / 2133 non-ECC, un-buffered memory

crude path
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should work

floral breach
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should i try putting the updated bios on it?

crude path
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might try with one stick of ram and see if it works?

floral breach
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tried that

crude path
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could try that but i dont think it will help. doesnt hurt to try

floral breach
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which one should i do?

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can you hop into call and see?

hollow thorn
crude path
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to see what

floral breach
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i do not have the manual

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purchased from a friend.

hollow thorn
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Different board have preferences for single stick

floral breach
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and to see which bios

hollow thorn
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@floral breach motherboard support page

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They always have manual you can download there

floral breach
hollow thorn
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Just check which slot it likes

floral breach
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prefers 2 and 4

crude path
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see the thing is

hollow thorn
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Thought mobos had a single preferred slot for single stick of ram

floral breach
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this one doesn't say you can even run it on 1

crude path
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my cousin and i have the same mobo and same spec ram, the DOCP works on mine but not his and we could never figure out why it didnt 🤷‍♂️ we couldn't find a solution

hollow thorn
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Did manual timings and freq work

floral breach
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not smart enough for that

crude path
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you can try setting it manually but idr what you should be setting it to

hollow thorn
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I mean deafkid

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Did you guys try manual timings and freq

crude path
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yeah but it was a long time ago so i dont remember exactly what we did

floral breach
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Tried to put the new profile on with 3200 speed ram, and i don't know if it's memory training or boot cycling

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@hollow thorn

hollow thorn
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Wait and see

floral breach
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Looks like boot cycling.

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Defenitly boot cycling

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@hollow thorn

hollow thorn
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Put it out of it's misery

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Clear cmos

floral breach
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Ok

hollow thorn
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Ye ye

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@vapid mist yeye?

vapid mist
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oh what the heccc

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It says I can't see the history

hollow thorn
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Weird

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Perms are wack

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Anyways

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CPU, budget, and specific needs?

vapid mist
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Just a sec

hollow thorn
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(gonna assume out of stock is fine and just looking around)

vapid mist
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Ok, I am back

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Yeah, i am just looking around for now

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Also, this is what I see

hollow thorn
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Lol

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Yea @proud widget perms are a bit screwed up it seems

vapid mist
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yuppers

hollow thorn
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Anyways continue on

vapid mist
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anyways, CPU is 3950x/4950x, which chould both work on X570, pice isn't that hard but I would say under $300 if possible, and its for rendering. I am looking for it to be black as well

hollow thorn
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MSI x570 unify

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Very good high end solid black x570 board

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But 300$.

vapid mist
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Sweet

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That looks like it would be nice with my case and components

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And it should work with the 4950X right?

hollow thorn
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Just a reminder, it's a high end board, normal x570 boards are around the 200$ mark, high end boards are paying a premium for looks and slightly better features.

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Unless AMD decides to pull a quick one, it should.

vapid mist
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ok, good to know, thanks ^^

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I am looking at the features right now

hollow thorn
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Oh and it's got wifi

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If you needed that

vapid mist
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I don't, but sweet!

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and it has PCIE 4.0, niceee, and it has 2 of them

hollow thorn
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Do remember to just take a stroll around mid end x570 boards as a whole to see if any of those tickle you fancy

long geyser
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very rare to need more then the base x570

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Like what is it that you need? triple NVMe, dual RJ45, four x16 PCIe?

vapid mist
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Do remember to just take a stroll around mid end x570 boards as a whole to see if any of those tickle you fancy
@hollow thorn I shall, do you have any more reccomendations for dark black boards, the darker the better

hollow thorn
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Asus x570 plus gaming

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That's a good mid end board that's black

vapid mist
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I will be running 2x GPU's and an M.2 expansion card

hollow thorn
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Gigabyte x570 aorus elite had a silver chipset fan thing but still an option

vapid mist
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Looking at the asus

long geyser
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Ye, so no real need to go for super x570 as I'd call it unless you need that specific look

vapid mist
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I am going for a very high end build so I would like to get a future proof case and stuff

hollow thorn
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@long geyser can you check the real differences between the unify and plus?

vapid mist
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*mobo, not case

long geyser
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unify and tuf plus?

hollow thorn
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Yes

vapid mist
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I don't like the asus. I am looking for slid black

deep vigil
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If your going very high end why you going with the mid tier gpu?

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what u doing with the pc?

hollow thorn
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too much work on mobile and I'm lazy

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Alright fair enough

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2060 ko had performance like 2080 in workstation tasks like blender.

vapid mist
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I am going for a 2060KO because it is a render rig

hollow thorn
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Therefore dual 2060ko is very good value for them

deep vigil
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ah

vapid mist
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and I am going to use my current 1080 as a gaming card, then upgrade to a better card for gaming later

long geyser
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specific rendering stuff

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make sure that what you're doing actually is well off with a 2060KO

vapid mist
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It does, I render in blender, and it has RTX optix support and the 2060KO is 27% faster than a 2060 for the same price

long geyser
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okay

vapid mist
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new egg has the unity for $450 lmao

long geyser
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Unify is almost flagship lvl

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so yee

deep vigil
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wtf howd they mess up this much on the ko lol

vapid mist
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other places have for $300, but they aren't in stock like new egg

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wtf howd they mess up this much on the ko lol
@deep vigil What do you mean?

deep vigil
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howd they manage to not realize they were adding performance onto the card for no extra price

hollow thorn
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It's a cut down 2080

deep vigil
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I mean I think that is kinda a mess up

hollow thorn
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They knew

deep vigil
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Whyd they do it then?

hollow thorn
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It's not just somehow the sillicon is better

vapid mist
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They knew, it games like a 2060, but crunches like a 2080

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they didn't wanna waste stock, thats why

hollow thorn
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I believe defective 2080 silicon / badly binned that does badly at gaming

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But still keeps cores for workstation tasks

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Hei might know more

vapid mist
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Yeah, like it has all the RT and tesnor cores

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*tensor

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but its cuda has been binned down

deep vigil
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hmm

vapid mist
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Its $300 for a 2060KO

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6GB RAM

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and I am honestly gonna wait for next gen GPU's because they are gonna have way better RT

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I am gonna wait for RTX 3000 and Ryzen 4

hollow thorn
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Okay 1am I slep now
Unify is a very good looking board :p

deep vigil
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night

vapid mist
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@hollow thorn Sleep well! Thankls for the help!

hollow thorn
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You're welcome, thank you.

long geyser
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Unify being better: VRMs (tho kinda eh of actual difference unless LN2), 2-digit debug light LED, built in buttons for CMOS clr and pwr, one more x16 PCIe, supports SLI (tho you are doing workstation which SLI doesnt work in usually, just multi GPU), 4 less SATA ports, one more NVMe port, better WiFi controller, better LAN chip (1GbE vs 2.5GbE), better sound chip setup, one more USB 3.1 port, two more USB 2.0 ports, two less USB 3.0 ports, two more 5V RGB headers, one less 12v RGB headers

vapid mist
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Oh wow, hanks!

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*thanks

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So what would you reccomend to me?

long geyser
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All in all, Unify isnt worth it unless you really need one of the specific things

vapid mist
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I am looking for a solid black mobo, thats really what the criteria is

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and I mean SOLID black

long geyser
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by "M.2 expansion card" do you mean one of those x16 PCBs with four M2 slots?

vapid mist
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Yes, that

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If I need to I mean, thats the goal in the future

long geyser
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Then tuf plus isnt ideal due to only two x16 physical ports

vapid mist
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I mean this is a very high end PC, I won't haave to upgrade for a long time so I can expect to have a lot of storage

long geyser
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only other physical ports are x1

vapid mist
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I dislike the TUF anyways

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I have a TUF now and its fine, but Its not solid black :/

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or a mobo with good RGB integration... I am willing to look at those as well

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This one is good too, but I think its even more

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ASUS Pro WS X570-Ace

long geyser
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allowing for some silver accents does allow for a lot more options

vapid mist
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Silver is fine

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I would say no color, bur greyscale is fine, as long as its not over like 50% grey, you know?

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Just NO color

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I do not want a color Bias in my PC

long geyser
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I mean, there is like Gigabyte UD which is like 45% grey... Not 50% therefore good.... /s

vapid mist
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I mean 50% grey as in brightness

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like nothing more than 50% brightness grey

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I think that mobo is too much for me haha

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Ohhh, i found a board i like

long geyser
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Ill look at cheapest board that meets the stuff. Tho gotta do other stuff rn so may be an hour or two

vapid mist
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I like this one

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ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

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It is black and has RGB, I am a huge fan

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and I am already used to Asus Bios

supple monolith
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Yeah, I wish they branded the tuf as Rog

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Or just asus

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Like great specs and price, but they are ugly

vapid mist
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I have a TUF, I just want a solid black board, and the RGB is a huge bonus

supple monolith
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Yh, I love my rog board. Think it's pretty much the best looking mobo brand in general

vapid mist
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It fits my build sooo well

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But I don't think It has m.2

supple monolith
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Oh, that sucks. Always have pcle expansion tho

vapid mist
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Yeah, and it has 5 PCIE slots

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nevermind, dual m.2 ^^

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oh... that was the F, not the E, that one is $400

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nope! E has 2 as well haha

#

Hold up... they are the same board but one is $100 more???

supple monolith
#

They often have different varients of the same chipsets

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Check specs

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But it might just be corrona pricing

vapid mist
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The boards are the exact same

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Well, the cheaper one has more awards lmao

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Here is the cheaper

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Here is the more expensive

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oh, the cheaper one has another RGB accent

supple monolith
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Look on asus's website. They look the same but might have different sound cards or something

vapid mist
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Same sound card too

supple monolith
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You sure there isn't a m2 slot under one of those shrouds

vapid mist
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I already said they both have dual M.2 haha

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also, this is the cheaper with the awards

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ok, so it looks like the more expensive one if the lower model

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The more expensive one has less RGB and no wifi

supple monolith
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The e has m2

vapid mist
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both do

supple monolith
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Oh, missiled that

vapid mist
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misread? lol

supple monolith
#

F this keyboard. Man

vapid mist
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lol

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Yeah so the E is the better board

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but its $100 less, must be rona

supple monolith
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Yeah

vapid mist
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Sweet, means good things for me lol

vapid mist
#

@long geyser Ihave decided to go with the Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

long geyser
#

pretty sure the Asus Hero is higher end and was cheaper when I last checked 4 hours ago @vapid mist

vapid mist
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I am honestly looking for a board with good looks

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The features of the board I sent are pleanty for me

long geyser
#

Hero and Strix are quite similair in looks

vapid mist
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Would you link please?

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I have been helping a few people with PC stuff for hours and I am quite tired. I would greatly appreciate bit

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*it

long geyser
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ah wait. Was looking at Strix F prices, not E

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Tis is $360 for hero without WiFi for better VRMs and IO

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Tho Aorus Pro and Strix E do look quite similair tbh and E, when in stock (which isnt rn afaik), is still $30 more then Aorus Pro

vapid mist
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I do not like the aorus at all, but thank you anyways! I do appreciate your help!

long geyser
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The orange lighting seems to be RGB so color fairly colorless except for the four small red caps(?) at bottom left corner

vapid mist
#

If I am being honest, I am a bit of an Asus lover, and I am already used to their software and bios and stuff

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It would just be easier for me and I greatly prefer the looks of the Asus

long geyser
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Eh, if it works then it works ig. Tho hope that you truly kit out that system. If that money for looks could've gone for perf you'll probs hear me complain like I usually do

vapid mist
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You're gonna complain about my AIO then lmao

long geyser
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I mean, some AIOs out there are extremely good

heady ivy
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Hi I’m currently gutting out an old workstation pc and was wondering if this i5-2500 would be usable in a gaming rig

long geyser
#

Such as NZXT X62/X63 being some of the best liquid cooling performers, beating some custom loops due to very high fin density. Arctic Freezer II being very good at noise normalized perf

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@heady ivy It'd be usable. Tho dont think I'd pair it with anything higher then a 2060

neat glacier
#

what do yall think of Asus PRIME z490-a for gaming? also, what makes a motherboard "good" for overclocking

rigid dragon
#

Could someone send me a link to a really good Samsung b die kit 4x16

midnight pollen
midnight pollen
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depends which you prioritize more the second has lower latency and the 1st has higher clock speed, ryzen really likes high clocks

rigid dragon
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@midnight pollen which one can overclock better tho I’m going to be overclocking since it’s Samsung B Die.

heady ivy
#

what ram should i get to use with this mobo the cpu would be a ryzen 5

warped scroll
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Anywhere from 3000-3600MHz would be good. I'd shoot for 16gb so do a 2x8gb kit. CAS latency 18 is fine

heady ivy
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is this one any good

supple monolith
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Did you mean to link to a ram cooler or the actual ram?

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B/c a fan on your ram is entirely unnecessary

hollow thorn
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lol

heady ivy
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the cooler comes with the ram

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i just relised i am dumb

supple monolith
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The actual ram is solid, but I wouldn't pay almost 300 euros for a 16 gb kit and a fan

supple monolith
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3600MHz vs 3200MHz

rigid dragon
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And would overclock better right

supple monolith
#

Yeah. XMP rated to 3600 means you can probably go further than ram rated at 3200 manually. (I'm like 99 percent sure but I haven't actually manually OC ram)

rigid dragon
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It’s going to be cooled like heck too since I have a fish tank build

vapid mist
#

I just realized that I need to get a new desk...

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Oh, am I purple now?

#

I can't tell, the color on this monitor is horrible

#

nope, still blue

tender flint
#

Heads up to anyone looking for x570 ITX boards. Newegg seems to have the Gigabyte x570 I Aorus Pro WiFi in stock.

drowsy nymph
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Little RAM upgrade.

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Corsair Vengence 32GB Kit > G.Skill Trident Z 64GB Kit.

quaint current
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love_it wanna give me some

drowsy nymph
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Sure how much you need?

quaint current
#

🤔 those 2 slots looking kinda empty in my mobo

#

wow theo slacking cant even catch rules being broken

drowsy nymph
#

What rules are bring broken?

#

ADVERTISING RAM

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xD Theo flys in.

midnight pollen
#

Shiny

upbeat lichen
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i've thought about upgrading to 32GB, i push my 16GB sometimes when i'm trying to multitask

tulip talon
#

I need to empty slots filled 😂

#

Also why that big of a upgrade?

drowsy nymph
#

Why not

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I also can't sell you anything as that would be in direct violation with #rules

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Isn't that right Theo

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He's watching btw.

quaint current
#

🤔 this is why something called dms exist

copper solar
tulip talon
#

I dms

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I need the slots filled

quaint current
#

everybody run theos here

tulip talon
#

Theo nothing is happening

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No worries

quaint current
#

something something cpu

tulip talon
#

Motherboard x 170

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And m.2 with 3733

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Would work nuclear

naive pendant
#

could someone link me some g skill trident z royals

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3200-3600 CL16 4x8gb

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for $200 or less

tardy depot
#

any idea when the 10900k will be available?

naive pendant
#

nah

#

go ryzen

tardy depot
#

nah want that gaming performance

deep vigil
#

Most of them are sold out

#

Atm

naive pendant
#

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

#

so?

deep vigil
#

Due to corona stock is wacky

naive pendant
#

anyone got anything on the royals?

hollow thorn
#

A tiny percent performance for a lot more money, but if you know you're throwing money away, do your thing.

deep vigil
#

I mean if your spending like 4k on a pc for gaming I mean do what u want

naive pendant
#

I was requesting 4x8gb kit

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but like bruh

tardy depot
#

yeah ive looked everywhere ccant find it anywhere that is msrp or i cant even find any retailers that give a estimated date of restock

naive pendant
#

I guess I'll just get the ones i've been eyeing up at $220

hollow thorn
#

It's much better price to perf than what you can find 4x8

#

It's faster for cheaper

naive pendant
#

nah

#

I don't care that much about performance

tardy depot
#

i mean i have 2700x i have a new board its time for the best intel besides ryzen i cant stand for gaming

hollow thorn
#

But at the end of the day, same thing, if you know you're throwing money away for looks, do your thing.

naive pendant
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I just want 4 sticks of ram

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yesh

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I would like assistance in "ricing" my pc as we say in the car community

hollow thorn
#

2nd gen is trash compared to 3rd gen ryzen in gaming lol

tardy depot
#

not much differencce in gaming performance tho

#

in fps games anyway

naive pendant
#

the reason I want the silver royals is because they'll reflect the lighting nicely

hollow thorn
#

2nd gen to 3rd gen ryzen yes lol

naive pendant
#

my build's gonna be black and red with silver accents

hollow thorn
#

The iPC improvements really show

naive pendant
#

I'll hit you guys up when i get it built

hollow thorn
#

Yeye

naive pendant
#

mmmmmmmmmmmm

tardy depot
#

i have compared the 2700x to most of the 3rd gen processors and they really dont beat it much for the cost

hollow thorn
#

Someone was building with a x570 unify, I really wanted to see if but no idea if it's in #build-pics yet

tardy depot
#

the 10900k stomps it

naive pendant
#

B550 is god tier

hollow thorn
#

I mean pull up benchmarks with 3950x and 10900k

naive pendant
#

I am absolutely in love with aorus elite

#

m8

deep vigil
#

@tardy depot what gpu u going with?

hollow thorn
#

Compare that to 2700x

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It's a big step up

tardy depot
#

i have the 1080ti

naive pendant
#

mmmmmmmmmm

deep vigil
#

Are you upgrading your card.....

naive pendant
#

I'm gonna run a 3060 and something like a 3700x or 3800x

deep vigil
#

Or just the processor

tardy depot
#

im not gonna upgrade it until 3080ti comes out

hollow thorn
#

But throwing money away is fine as long as you know you're doing it >:D

naive pendant
#

with the aorus B550 elite

#

and the royals

#

this belongs in build chat dontcha think?

deep vigil
#

@hollow thorn i think he has big cash

hollow thorn
#

Yea

mild jackal
#

It's not throwing it away if you know what you want

hollow thorn
#

If you're gonna drop 4000$ I can't say much

naive pendant
#

unpopular opinion, the X570 unify kinda ugly

#

ready for my ban now

mild jackal
#

Most people spend $$$ on ram/cpu other performance related stuff thinking it's a night or day difference

hollow thorn
#

But people try for like 9900k at 1500$

mild jackal
#

When it's not

hollow thorn
#

Just no

naive pendant
#

I'm gonna spend about 2-3k on my pc

#

B550

#

3700x

#

or 3800x

#

whatever I can find used

#

and also an RTX 3060

#

gigabyte

tardy depot
#

i mean ill just sell my old 1080ti and 2700x and make most of my money back no biggie

hollow thorn
#

I have a more budget oriented mindset for builds

naive pendant
#

the gigabyte cards are so clean

hollow thorn
#

I'd rather have more bang for the buck

naive pendant
#

and then I'll bling it up with the royals

#

and then whatever PSU I can find

#

all in the antec P120

#

with a touch of Kraken Z73

#

and lots of RGB fans

#

but I'm gonna be the cringy edgy kid that sets all the RGB to red

hollow thorn
#

Eh forks there's always dimishing returns

naive pendant
#

and just listens to angry doom music

hollow thorn
#

1x8gb and 2x8gb ram differences are clear as day

naive pendant
#

gigabyte's 3 fan coolers are godly

hollow thorn
#

10900k and 10600k basically no difference

naive pendant
#

very big secks

deep vigil
#

@hollow thorn was going to go ryzen but my parents who ultimately have the final say talked to my uncle who said go intel because he had problems with like really old amd stuff

naive pendant
#

mmmmmmmmmmmmm

hollow thorn
#

Rip it's alright tho

deep vigil
#

And so my parents were like listen to him

naive pendant
#

feels bad @deep vigil

#

just listen and be a good boye with a worse PC

hollow thorn
#

You went z390 right

deep vigil
#

So I was like well sh$t

naive pendant
#

I'm a ryzen gang

hollow thorn
#

Because z390 at least you'll have fun tuning memory

deep vigil
#

@hollow thorn ye I am z390

#

Ye

hollow thorn
#

God damn lol

naive pendant
#

lmao

hollow thorn
#

@naive pendant I really like the solid black unify lol

naive pendant
#

B550 gang

#

lmao

#

it looks nice

#

but it's too dark

#

I need at least a little bit of lighting

#

that I can set to red

deep vigil
#

I like that gigabyte board

naive pendant
#

so i can be angery

#

what gigabyte board?

tardy depot
#

apparently it has really good overclocking for 10900k

naive pendant
#

@deep vigil

#

send a pic

hollow thorn
#

Huh

hollow thorn
#

50A power stages

deep vigil
#

The one sinister posted

naive pendant
deep vigil
#

I think it would look nice

hollow thorn
#

I remember buildzoid talking about tomahawk x570 with good 60A power stages

tardy depot
#

i mean there are better ones but you will spend 380+

naive pendant
#

B550 is godly

hollow thorn
#

So might not be great

naive pendant
#

very big secks

#

power delivery is for nerds

hollow thorn
#

@tardy depot that's the problem with z490 xD

naive pendant
#

appearance is all that matters

hollow thorn
#

Hey you talking about OCing so

#

Anyways

deep vigil
#

@hollow thorn ye no budget boards for z490 yet

hollow thorn
#

I slep now

naive pendant
#

aorus elite is godly

#

ook

#

gn

#

@hollow thorn

hollow thorn
#

Unify amazing imo

naive pendant
#

sure

hollow thorn
#

Gamers Nexus indeed.

deep vigil
#

Gn

naive pendant
#

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

tardy depot
#

so all i need is newegg to stock the 10900k and ill be set lol

hollow thorn
#

Some might not like the non-flashiness of it

#

That's ok

naive pendant
#

mmmmmmmmmmm

#

what did you do for the legend role?

#

@hollow thorn

tardy depot
#

is the cooler im running

naive pendant
#

what cooler @tardy depot

#

for the 10900k

naive pendant
#

corsair

#

ew

#

sorry

#

but it's got good performance

#

good enough

tardy depot
#

i dont thhink ill be able to get 5.3 ghz but at least 5.1-maybe 5.2

naive pendant
#

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

deep vigil
#

Beware they get toasty af

#

You can cool a steak on it

#

Cook

naive pendant
#

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

tardy depot
#

what cooler would you recommend no bigger than a 240?

deep vigil
#

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long geyser
#

b550 is only nice if it can rival b450 TUF Pro price to perf

deep vigil
#

Heh meatsink

long geyser
#

cheap but good amount of M2 slots and good sound chip

#

Also AIO wise I'd only go NZXT x62/x63 or Arctic Freezer II

tardy depot
#

hmm

long geyser
#

NZXT is basically best raw perf with acceptable low noise and Freezer II is basically best noise normalized perf

polar fern
#

this might be a dumb question, but how would I go in terms of adding wifi to my pc?

split copper
#

there's a few ways

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lowest effort is buying a USB WiFi thing

#

next up in terms of effort is a PCIe/M.2 WiFi module, which could be in a normal PCIe expansion card form, Mini PCIe, or M.2

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and then there's getting a board that has a WiFi module built into it

#

I guess it depends on the situation what level of effort it takes, not much anyway

polar fern
#

I see youtubers use some anti-static thing, do I need to build with that too?

split copper
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well

#

not really

#

just touch something that discharges electrostatic buildup before handling electronics

#

and every now and then during the process

#

I don't have any grounding equipment, would be nice to have though

olive umbra
#

if you've got anything with exposed metal nearby, just hold that for like a second every so often while you work

polar fern
#

they are actually quite cheap

#

I might just buy one with a screw driver kit

#

thanks for the help

olive umbra
#

Remember that you do need to hook up the clamp on an ESD mat to something metal for them to be effective

polar fern
#

esd mat?

#

nvm im just gonna save money then

olive umbra
#

That's the thing youtubers use, or at least one of them

polar fern
#

ah ok

#

wait if i have wood floors

olive umbra
#

They aren't strictly required but they help. The mats have a wire with a clamp on one corner that you're supposed to stick on something metal

polar fern
#

ah ok

#

someone said something about carpet being bad with anti static

#

if i have wood would that slightly help

olive umbra
#

Wood helps a lot

#

Carpeting can build up static charges pretty fast via your feet

polar fern
#

ah ok

#

so would i just plug my psu and install it

#

and touch it once every few minutes?

#

to stop the build up?

olive umbra
#

It's janky but can work. Most would juist recommend touching the case's metal bits every so often

polar fern
#

so i wouldn't need to plug anything in?

#

just touch the case every so often?

olive umbra
#

you van plug the psu into the wall, but keep it off

polar fern
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alright

#

and then touch the case ?

olive umbra
#

yeah

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as long as you're grounded by something

polar fern
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ok

#

if the case for some reason isnt metal, I just find something else right?

olive umbra
#

yeah

polar fern
#

ok thanks

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have a good night

olive umbra
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as long as you're grounded

#

night

vital falcon
#

MB I want is out of stock.... Hope they are available soon... Ordered everything and some were canceled.... The MB... So now have to wait...le sigh lol

weak crown
#

So, I fixed an issue I posted about several days ago.. TridentZ Royal RGB not being recognized by ASUS AURA. I had to do a fresh windows install....but it worked...

midnight pollen
#

rip

warm fulcrum
#

when are the Ryzen XT cpus coming out

digital kernel
#

July maybe 🤞

split copper
#

yes

upbeat lichen
#

assuming they release them to retail and not OEM's only, but with nothing confirmed, who knows

#

but rumors are pointing to announcement in the next couple of weeks maybe

#

with release in july

warm fulcrum
#

awesome. Im gonna pair one of those with a 3070

tacit hemlock
#

Are they supposed to be zen 3?

upbeat lichen
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the XT's? they're supposedly a zen 2 refresh

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zen 3 is the 4000 series

tacit hemlock
#

Thought so

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Seems like a poor decision to buy a xt right before 4 series imo

digital kernel
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Maybe?

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4th gen might be delayed a bit. We don't know

tacit hemlock
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Still

digital kernel
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Yeah

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Dunno

tacit hemlock
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

digital kernel
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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My guess is that the xt was just scheduled to make sure intel couldn't claim any big wins with 10th gen, but that's just me

tacit hemlock
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Maybe

digital kernel
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Or AMD has been holding back their highest performing CCD's

warm fulcrum
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Well im building my new pc when the new 3000 cards come out. The 4000 series Ryzens are supposed to be sometime in 2021 and im not wating that long

long geyser
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XT was probs AMD refining the process to a higher yield on better binned parts I'd guess

warm fulcrum
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huh?

digital kernel
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TL;DR XT goes brrrrrrrrr

silent brook
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Or should I get different ram sticks

dusty hollow
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I need help

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I just installed 32 gb of ddr4 ram gskill ripjaw 3200

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And when I changed it to 2666 to 3200 my pc won't start

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I have the ryzen b450 pro 4 mobo

quaint current
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did you set the speed and timings manually or did you enable docp?

dusty hollow
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I tried auto but it didn't work

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I only have the xmp option

quaint current
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so xmp doesn’t start?

dusty hollow
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nope it either sets it to 1866 or something or doesn't load into windows at all

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I check my mobo asrock b450 pro4 and it says I can set my ram to 32000

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**3200

quaint current
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did you overclock your cpu at all?

dusty hollow
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No I didn't overclock cpu

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I didnt think I needed to. I have a ryzen 5 2600

quaint current
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okay can you get into the bios or doesn’t it just not start

dusty hollow
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I can get into the bios

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@quaint current

quaint current
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is there a profile 1 and 2 for the ram?

dusty hollow
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Just have the xmp 1 profil

quaint current
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some other people have had issues with ripjaws kits on ryzen 2000, and some of them said to take a ss of all the timings and see if you can manually run 3200mhz with the same timings, or increase SoC and dram voltages a little (under 1.175 and 1.4)

dusty hollow
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Xmp 2.0 profile 1

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Wait so ripjaw is the issue

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Rippp

quaint current
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yeah it might just an issue with the kit

dusty hollow
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What ram kit do you suggest then

quaint current
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you could just rma it and get a new kit and see if it works

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also I’ve gtg so you could ask another techie if you need help

magic egret
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Hi

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How are you??

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I'm sorry, I deleted my Microsoft account from my laptop, and now the laptop asks me for a password

light stone
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Question for anyone who might know or tried this, I have a single R7 370 I’ve replaced with my 5700xt, is it worth crossfiring them for a budget build for my brother or just giving him the one.

digital kernel
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Cross fire across two different cards is kinda odd

quaint current
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ya and the 370 wouldn’t really help for gaming, probably just give it to ur brother

light stone
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No no no I meant should I buy a second R7 370 and give both to my brother for a system

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Two 370 in crossfire

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Or just one

quaint current
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o

light stone
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I have one already wondering if it’s worth getting a second to cross fire

quaint current
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crossfire isn’t really supported with a ton of games, I’d just have the 1 card

light stone
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Ok thanks for the input

clear coral
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hey, i wanna upgrade my i5 9400f, do u recommend amd or intel

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for gaming

hollow thorn
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likely intel if you already have the motherboard

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what motherboard do you have

clear coral
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idk let me check

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its prebuilt

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asus motherboard but idk which one specifically

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can u help me how to know

deep vigil
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@clear coral it should show the name of he board on the board

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Could you send us a picture of the inside of the pc?

clear coral
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its this one

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asus prime b360m-k

hollow thorn
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ick

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was afraid it was one of the lower end boards

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might not be worth upgrading to a k chip :p

clear coral
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do u recommend getting a new board

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and if so which one

hollow thorn
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What's the budget for an upgrade

clear coral
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open

hollow thorn
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like

clear coral
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like 800 max

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swith cpu

hollow thorn
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what ram do you have right now

clear coral
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16gb

hollow thorn
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how many sticks

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and what speed

clear coral
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I really

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dont know

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A picture will help ?

hollow thorn
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open task manager

clear coral
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okay

hollow thorn
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actually dont need to take a screenshot

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tell me what it says at "speed"

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and "slot used"

clear coral
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2666 MHz

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slots used 1 of 2

hollow thorn
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oooof

clear coral
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is it that bad? 😄

hollow thorn
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yea

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single stick isn't good

clear coral
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I got it prebuilt and just focused on the gpu

hollow thorn
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and well it's 2666mhz thats max on b360m

clear coral
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idk anything

hollow thorn
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what gpu

clear coral
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2070