cpus-mobo-and-memory

[hollow thorn]

yea

If TR chips don't get you with the price, the motherboards will :p

[midnight pollen]

threadripper mobos be like that

[pulsar pilot]

Hello i need help finding the correct compatible processor to upgrade my computer
I have an SkyTech Azure - Gaming Computer PC Desktop – Ryzen 5 1600 6-Core 3.2 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB, 500G NVMe PCIe SSD, 16GB DDR4, AC WiFi, Windows 10 Home 64-bit (16GB Version), reference link and I would like to upgrade the processor probably to a rysen 7 o rysen 9 but idk which to buy since there are so many, I found the MoBo to be model ASRock A320M-HDV

[warped scroll]

@pulsar pilot I answered your question in 2 different chats

[pulsar pilot]

o soory did not notice

so its not worth upgrading?

[warped scroll]

imo no

And that motherboard was only built for 1st gen Ryzen. You could do a BIOS flash and upgrade to a ryzen 2600 or 2700, but that's still barely worth it

[pulsar pilot]

for a good upgrade i would have to change the mobo?

@warped scroll or a good upgrade i would have to change the mobo?

[quaint current]

technically you could, but i'd advise not putting a high power part in any a320 board, and a prebuilt usually means worse motherboards

[naive pendant]

ASUS TUF B450-Pro Gaming AM4

The odds of cramming 128gb ram in that board. Lol

[pulsar pilot]

ok, yhanks guys

thanks

[hollow thorn]

@quaint current that motherboard seems to support up to 65w tdp, with a bios avaliable to support 3rd gen chips, so I'd slap in a 3600

[quaint current]

yuh

but whats stopping you from putting a higher power chip in there? is there like a tdp limiter or something cause its kinda weird

[hollow thorn]

dunno someone said its limited to 65w

might be vrm

[quaint current]

eco mode slap a 3950x in there

[hollow thorn]

lol

[naive pendant]

Has there been any problem with overheating on the MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS motherboard? considering getting it when it is a reasonable price again.

i mean like the VRMs

[hollow thorn]

Yes

[naive pendant]

oh

which one would you reccomend

[hollow thorn]

actually I'll have to take a look again

MSI X570 a-pro and X570 gaming edge wifi has vrm overheating issues

[mild jackal]

The gaming x is the one with hot vrms

[hollow thorn]

I'll have to look for gaming plus

[mild jackal]

MSI gaming edge is probably the weakest x570 vrm, or close to it

[hollow thorn]

was going off this

Yes it's extreme but still.

[naive pendant]

i dont think those are the same models

but you may be right

[hollow thorn]

thats why I'll have to look for gaming plus

[naive pendant]

alright

any go-to x570 boards for a budget build?

[mild jackal]

Most people recommend the X570 asus TUF or aorus elite. $200 ish

[naive pendant]

yeah, i was thinking about the tuf board for a while

[hollow thorn]

Forks, looking at the VRMs side by side, it's basically the same, so the issue on the gaming edge wifi might be the same on the gaming plus?

[naive pendant]

probably the case

[hollow thorn]

Also, I believe the Asus X570-p is a pretty good board too..?

[naive pendant]

any major differences btwn the asus TUF (non-wifi) and the Asus X570-p?

[earnest pebble]

I was looking for a larger M.2 SSD capacity drive from my 120GB, to a 1TBor a 500gb for the OS+games. On my motherboard (B450 Aorus M) in the specifications for storage
-[ 1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 SATA and PCIe 3.0 x4/x2 SSD support) ]
Does this mean I could actually buy a NVMe-M.2 drive and have it work? It would run at PCIe 3.0 speeds, do I understand this correctly? Or do I continue shopping for a 1TB M.2 M-key SATA SSD. I'm new to this type of upgrading storage shopping, but I gotta start sometime. :)

[grizzled holly]

119$ MSRP for B550 motherboards, just announced

[shy breach]

@pulsar pilot @warped scroll what's the mobo?

[warped scroll]

huh?

[shy breach]

oh Jesus, it's an A320 prebuilt? KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!

@warped scroll Old chat up the stack, I'm just getting caught up

[warped scroll]

oh

[hollow thorn]

@earnest pebble Yes, any NVMe PCIe 3.0 drives would work. A Team MP34 1tb would work nicely. (not sponsored)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PHQ6Q1D

[dry salmon]

Yo I haven't really kept up with this new gen of CPUs and I might need to get a new . I currently have an i7-7700k and want to get something that will not hold my rtx 2060 back. It don't matter if I have to change to amd and get a new mobo.
I was currently looking at a R7 3700x with a msi edge wifi mobo

[hollow thorn]

Eh in gaming 7700k should be fine for you for a while

wait tell next gen drops imo

corona making prices high

MSI x570 edge wifi is also a bad board, it has VRM heating issues.

[earnest pebble]

Awesome, Thanks for that info @hollow thorn Buddy, you get the last slice of pizza tonight

[dry salmon]

That's the thing I just might need to get a new CPU since it might be broken I'm just waiting on new case to test it out

[hollow thorn]

Ooo there was Pizza? aw I missed it...

@dry salmon what might be broken..?

[dry salmon]

Accident happened and mobo plus CPU might be bad now

[hollow thorn]

You can start a motherboard without a case

[dry salmon]

I have a msi z270 m7

I know that I just haven't tested it out

I've been just kinda lazy with it cuz of other stuff

[hollow thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuPZlliGqBw

you can test it pretty quickly

[dry salmon]

I'll probably get to it once new case gets here tomorrow

[hollow thorn]

alright

[dry salmon]

So what might be a good pick up for CPU if mines done for??

[hollow thorn]

Ryzen 3600/3700x, on either a good b450 or a reasonably priced x570 board

[dry salmon]

So aside from the msi edge wifi I was also looking at the Asus prime x570

[hollow thorn]

Prime x570-p is good

well all of the prime x570 boards are good iirc

[dry salmon]

What about the gigabyte b450m or the rog strix b450 f

Also Asus tuf gaming x570 plus. Those are the 5 mobos I was looking for if I need to change to amd

[hollow thorn]

Tuf gaming plus is good

eh

b450-f is decent

b450m I don't think is good

[dry salmon]

Ok thanks. So is there a reason to not go for Intel atm aside from higher prices?

[hollow thorn]

motherboard prices

[wheat scaffold]

Hello Guy attempting my first build. Is the Ryzen 7 3700x and Asus B450 ROG Strix a good combo. I’m reading that you need to update the BIOS, or should I go for the x570

[daring patio]

Some b450 and x470 motherboards is compatable with it out of the box

like the aorus pro wifi b450

and yes its a good combo

@wheat scaffold The b450-f ?

Its compatible out of the box

no need for falsh

[wheat scaffold]

@daring patio yes the b450-f

[daring patio]

k

[tacit hemlock]

My motherboard is reading temps of 110+
any ideas?

everything else in the system isnt even at 50c

I think that my motherboard sensors must be broken somehow because i don't see how i could run my pc with actual temps that high

[earnest pebble]

just recently I watched a showcase video on either a mobo, ram, or a gpu, which they explained a program would read 30 degrees higher than it was. I'm looking through history to try to find that exact one, What motherboard and which program are you using to read the temps?\

[tacit hemlock]

Its a oem part and I used occt and hwinfo to read temps

[earnest pebble]

Found it, it was a Pauls Hardware video from May 1 2017 though, he mentioned atm, the 1500x and 1600x ryzen CPU were displaying 20 degree higher temps in the OS, but that's still really hot. so that's a really old video. not sure if I could link in this channel, so I'll make it separate. You might have found something similar, maybe it helps you narrow down a issue.

[tacit hemlock]

Oh ya you can't post links yet

[earnest pebble]

I'll send it to you in a message incase

[tacit hemlock]

You can dm it to me

Sure

Here's the link
https://youtu.be/2yMLKcaFirw?t=170

[earnest pebble]

Maybe that might help finding a solution, Or you could cook some pizza rolls with it

[tacit hemlock]

Ok ill watch it tmr. I'm exhausted rn lol

[earnest pebble]

Good luck with your space heater :)

[tacit hemlock]

I'm also on a 6th gen core i5 so idk how much it will apply

[hollow thorn]

:p

@tacit hemlock VRM junction temps..?

[tacit hemlock]

Huh?

Wdym? @hollow thorn

Are you asking what those temps are? Because idk how to check that lol

[hollow thorn]

Because I just remember bad VRMs giving ~120w

[tacit hemlock]

Would you even be able to run the system at those temps tho?

I would imagine it would shut itself down

[hollow thorn]

it throttled

[mild jackal]

120 deg c?

[tacit hemlock]

Yes

These were the screenshots from earlier

[mild jackal]

Hot vrm is mostly a long term reliability / parts /fire safety concern

225w is a pretty unrealistic load though ngl

[tacit hemlock]

How do I know that it actually is that hot tho and the sensor isn't wrong

Wdym?

I wasn't doing anything intensive at all

Literally just had chrome and discord open lol

[mild jackal]

Idk what those sensors in hwinfo are reading from

[tacit hemlock]

Also the rest of my system was at 50c

[mild jackal]

You can roughly calculate power dissipation in the VRM from CPU current draw + the specs on the mosfet/power stage's data sheet.

Just plug in the current load, switching frequency, etc

[tacit hemlock]

Uh ok

I'm really tired rn lol. You think you'll be around tmr to help me understand whats happening lol?

[mild jackal]

Probably, I'm sure GN has a bunch of vids on it

[tacit hemlock]

Alright

I'll deal with it tmr

[hollow thorn]

@mild jackal yea 225w is a hefty load, but that's on x570, so I was just comparing hefty load for a high end board vs hefty load for a lower end Intel board

Also if you find a link for the GN vid please share it :p
I'll go looking but I'd like to learn more about VRMs :D

[crisp shore]

Getting the Ryzen 9 3900x for my build looking for a good mother board for gaming that’s mid range price $200 to $400 any ideas?

[hollow thorn]

That's not mid range xDDD

High end is 300$ usually

200$ USUALLY mid range

Asus prime x570-p should be 150$, whenever it's in stock

MSI x570 tomahawk wifi should be 220$, whenever it comes out

@crisp shore and high end wise, MSI X570 unify is neat.

~300$ usually

[crisp shore]

Shot I’ve been seeing some of the X570 at $500 600 range

[quaint current]

those are the overkill boards, 99% of people dont have a good use case for them

[gritty patio]

or those are the ones that are low in stock and their price has risen

thats what happened to me and the b450 board i got

[quaint current]

yuh

like the 1070 ti's going for $1k+ on amazon

[warm path]

I plan on upgrading my CPU. I run multiple instances of the same application. Should I go for higher clock speed or more cores?

[quaint current]

it depends on how many instances you are going to be running (the more you run, the higher the advantage for more cores will be), but i'd probably go with a ryzen 3700x/3900x or wait until the rumored refresh comes, they have decent clock speeds+ 8 or 12 cores for a pretty good value, and good IPC gains compared to last gen so they will perform better at the same clock speed

[crisp shore]

All I’m gonna be using mine for is gaming but I want to be able to run at full setting so I’m think Ryzen 9 3900x cpu with X570 crosshair board and 2070 super gpu

[hollow thorn]

@crisp shore how expensive is corsshair?

[crisp shore]

$350

[quaint current]

yeah i'd suggest getting a cheaper mobo if you havent already bought it, the cheapest crosshair i can find is like 380

[hollow thorn]

Damn yea spend that money back into GPU

[crisp shore]

On amazon it’s about 350

[hollow thorn]

It's so sad the cheapest good b450 board I recognize is 160$ pro carbon max wifi

[crisp shore]

Just don’t wanna get to much and the board not able to handle it

[quaint current]

any x570/b550 board should be able to handle a 3950x even minus one or two

[crisp shore]

Cpu: Ryzen 9 3900x

Motherboard: ??

Rams: Corsair vengeance rgb pro 16gb

Hard drive: seagate sshd 2tb & wd blue ssd 500gb

Power supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G5

Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce rtx 2070 super

Tower: full

That’s my build so far

@quaint current

[quaint current]

have you bought anything yet?

[crisp shore]

No I’m just got it done about a week ago and now I was starting to watch prices

[hollow thorn]

Wd blue is iffy

When do you plan to build?

[crisp shore]

Complete in about a couple months gonna but the parts as I get the money and watch prices

[hollow thorn]

Ehm don't do that, don't buy parts over time

[crisp shore]

What do y’all think about the sshd’s?

Why?

[quaint current]

for warranty

[crisp shore]

Didn’t think about that

[hollow thorn]

It's best to buy everything at once, so when you finish building, you're still within the return period if anything was dead on arrival or anything

And also prices go down over time

[quaint current]

yeah thats the more detailed explanation

[hollow thorn]

In a few months new parts release

For better performance at same price

So yea

[quaint current]

if you can wait a little to buy everything, i'd wait for b550 and ryzen 3900xt to launch

[hollow thorn]

The more you wait the better, and once you're done waiting, buy it all at once.

[crisp shore]

I’m not real computer smart just know alil about them and from some research I’ve done on what I wanna build

[hollow thorn]

@quaint current stuff should release by black Friday right

That should be a good point to buy

Usually amazing deals

[quaint current]

wait is there an actual time frame or just rumors

[crisp shore]

Ok yea it’ll take me about 3 months to get the money for all at once

[hollow thorn]

Rumors but usually they release in around the same time frame

[quaint current]

the ryzen refresh is supposed to be 6/17

and you can buy them 7/7 again

[crisp shore]

Y’all think I should go with the Samsung ssd instead of wd?

[hollow thorn]

Also Corona passes over in a few months and prices return to somewhat normal, but black Friday should be good

Please don't xD

Samsung so God damn expensive

[quaint current]

mp34 is pretty decently priced rn

rest are more expensive

[crisp shore]

I saw a Samsung 500gb ssd for $180 on amazon

[hollow thorn]

Yea, team MP34. Decently fast speeds, good dram cache, great controller, amazing the warrenty

Holy.
Crap

Mp34 1tb goes for 130$

[quaint current]

thats like twice the price of a 970 evo, that shouldnt be a normal msrp

[hollow thorn]

Yea

[crisp shore]

I’ll have to look into them then

[hollow thorn]

Usually Samsung drives are expensive but not that expensive xDDD

Lemme find the SSD sheet brb

[crisp shore]

Idk could be cuz the corona making prices go up idk

[hollow thorn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit#gid=0

[quaint current]

samsung is like the big name brand, everybody knows them but they dont really make the best price/performance drives

[hollow thorn]

Good sheet for checking specs

Dram is good

[quaint current]

@sharp blaze can u pin this

[hollow thorn]

@quaint current it's pinned

In #storage-devices

[quaint current]

o

[quaint current]

we in the wrong channel

[hollow thorn]

Lolol

[quaint current]

well its here now

[hollow thorn]

Intender still pinned it lmao

[quaint current]

yea but nobody actually moves the convo to other channels

[sharp blaze]

move it elsewhere

[hollow thorn]

But intender :((

[sharp blaze]

than tag me to pin it

[hollow thorn]

Lol

[quaint current]

its already pinned :(

[crisp shore]

Ok it was the 1tb Samsun not the 500

[hollow thorn]

I blame nachos :P

[quaint current]

what no

blame mr1

[hollow thorn]

A bit more reasonable

But still too expensive

[quaint current]

also imma sleep so yeah u help him thank

[hollow thorn]

I'd much rather take a 130$ 1tb mp34 drive

[crisp shore]

I’ve looked at so many computer parts last couple weeks my eyes are crossing lol

[tulip raft]

What’s the best memory to get that can reach in the 4000s MHz and good latency 4x16

[hollow thorn]

@tulip raft why do you want 4000mhz?

Lol it's alright you'll get the hang of it

[crisp shore]

O yea I will just been a console gamer since for ever but been playing pc gaming for about 2 years now and going to get into building me on now

[hollow thorn]

You watch much YouTube?

[quaint current]

probably 3200cl14 b die kits

[crisp shore]

Yea I’ve been eating Linus tech

Watching

And some other reviews

[quaint current]

but 64gb is gonna be pretty hard to get 4000mhz with semi tight timings

[tulip raft]

Oh

[quaint current]

and expensive

[hollow thorn]

Nachos I'd say they'll get better luck on 3600cl16 b die

There is also 4000mhz cl16 kits that's expensive but eh

[tulip raft]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232915 is this b die?

[crisp shore]

I’m catch some sleep got work in a few hrs but ima refresh my build and do some more research and add wat y’all were saying and get back on here hopefully y’all be on to check it out again

[quaint current]

id assume not

@hollow thorn there is a lot less 3600cl16 16gb sticks than 3200cl14 :/

[hollow thorn]

@quaint current but I know they're there :p

Dark pros can prob be good

[crisp shore]

One big question tho air cooled or water?

For first build

[quaint current]

i thought they only made 8gb stick kits? @hollow thorn

[hollow thorn]

@tulip raft no, 16-19-19-39 is djr/cjr
16-16-16-36 is b die, 16-18-18-38 might be b die

[tulip raft]

I bought a fish tank making a custom case to put in the fish tank got copper tubing with radiators and pump, using 3M liquid

[hollow thorn]

@crisp shore air, much easier on first install imo

[quaint current]

also thats why i like 3200cl14 more, if its cl14 its 99% going to be bdie

[tulip raft]

And could you send me a 4x16 that is b die

[crisp shore]

Ok Thats what I was thinking been eye balling the water builds tho they look bad ass

[hollow thorn]

Example one, this is 2x16
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232860

[quaint current]

watercooling is 98.7% for the looks

[hollow thorn]

Yea

Way too expensive for the practical performance increase

[crisp shore]

Thanks a lot for all the help tho y’all helped me out a lot

[tulip raft]

What do you guys think of my cooling solution 😂

[hollow thorn]

@tulip raft just... I would settle with 3600mhz, 4000mhz doesn't give you much...

[tulip raft]

I bought a fish tank making a custom case to put in the fish tank got copper tubing with radiators and pump, using 3M liquid

That’s what I’m doing for cooling going to be a fun project.

[hollow thorn]

If you want to have fun overclocking, some good 3200mhz cl14 is very good for ram oc

[quaint current]

o this is a nice kit https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232899? , people can get 3800cl16 stable with under 1.45V

[hollow thorn]

Flare x pretty good

Expensive tho

But all b die is expensive

[quaint current]

🤔 its cheaper than urs

[hollow thorn]

It's like 10$ cheaper than my kit

And mine has rgb >:D

[tulip raft]

I was looking at my shopping cart and my dad was looking at a 500 dollar 2x8 ram

[hollow thorn]

Lol

[tulip raft]

4600 c19 it was

[hollow thorn]

Lmao

[quaint current]

but we can all agree this is best ram https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820313712?

[hollow thorn]

No

[quaint current]

4133MHz 17-17-17-37 1.40v ez

[hollow thorn]

Thetr was 4000cl14 ram iirc

[tulip raft]

I’m confused what to get with lmao

[quaint current]

yeah those are at 1.5v tho, that was at 1.4

[tulip raft]

I’m going 10900K cpu pretty sure

[hollow thorn]

There's no real reason for 3600mhz then

Like that flare x kit prob pretty good for fun OC

[quaint current]

yuh

[tulip raft]

Is 10900K good cpu to get

[hollow thorn]

Not for the price but

[quaint current]

does micron make 16gb sticks with e die?

[hollow thorn]

Intel Bois do Intel things

Dunno

[tulip raft]

I been hearing about 3900XT

Beating Intel in single core

[hollow thorn]

Mhm

Leaked to beat 10900k lol

[quaint current]

bruh lmao this dude had that teamgroup ram at 1.92v

[hollow thorn]

Ln2 OC

Simple

[tulip raft]

I bought a fish tank making a custom case to put in the fish tank got copper tubing with radiators and pump, using 3M liquid

This is a good cooling right I’m taking all the heat sinks off

[hollow thorn]

@quaint current you just reminded me why I can't go far with ram oc

[quaint current]

kinda surprised he could actually get it to 4000cl17 tho on x299

[hollow thorn]

Voltage was set on auto iirc XDDD

[quaint current]

rip

[hollow thorn]

If I do 1.36v I can prob get 16-18-18-36 stable

Because that's semi-stable but crashes semi often

Bit more voltage might do the trick

[tulip raft]

No one answered lmao

[quaint current]

yus we talking about bad ram oc'ing

[hollow thorn]

Like if you're taking all the heatsinks off

You better have waterblocks for all of it

Don't take off the vrm heatsink and leave it hanging xD

[tulip raft]

I’m not doing that for the ram

[quaint current]

ram waterblocks are stupid

[hollow thorn]

Ikr

Don't even look good

[quaint current]

yeah

[tulip raft]

It’s going to be cooled either way by my liquid

[hollow thorn]

Trident z neo rgb looks so much better

Tt makes a block

[quaint current]

like brUH

[hollow thorn]

It doesn't look good at all

Yea

[tulip raft]

@quaint current my is going to be watercooled and not looking like that lmao

[hollow thorn]

Copper tubes means no rgb liquid tho

[tulip raft]

https://youtu.be/cPx4qyKPsw0

That’s an example

Of what I’m doing

[quaint current]

this is how ram and watercooling should go

[hollow thorn]

Lol

@quaint current some trident z neos and the tubes go around it

That's what it should do

Like run the tubing to the res up then to the right and down

[quaint current]

nah this is better

[hollow thorn]

Lol

[quaint current]

op res spot

[hollow thorn]

Cover it with the res

Wait

Is that the res or just a big pump

Hmm

[tulip raft]

What should I do a atx build or mini itx

[quaint current]

pretty sure its a pump res combo

itx

[hollow thorn]

Do whatever

Yea ok the photo was cut off for me

[quaint current]

matx is for the weak people that cant survive itx

[hollow thorn]

eATX tho

[tulip raft]

Looking at this everyday until I get my new motherboard lmao

[hollow thorn]

Ew

So expensive

[tulip raft]

Actually we got it for 200

[hollow thorn]

1tb?

[tulip raft]

Ye

[hollow thorn]

Horrible pricing lmao

[quaint current]

ThAtS sTiLl ExPeNsIvE -mr1

[hollow thorn]

If it was 2tb yes that's good

@quaint current WRONG

Lol

[tulip raft]

Anyways my dad is a fan boy for Samsung

[hollow thorn]

I'm not

You could get a MP34 for minimal speed lost and 70$ off your bill

[quaint current]

also motherboard and case sizes are a lie

[hollow thorn]

@quaint current eATX is just a lie

[quaint current]

well yeah

[hollow thorn]

There's like extreme eATX

It's crazy

[quaint current]

its like the bootleg size

[hollow thorn]

Yea

ATX is set in stone mostly

mATX too

[hollow thorn]

But itx cases can be thicc or smol

There's everything

[tulip raft]

That’s pc I have rn lmao

[hollow thorn]

OEM

[quaint current]

that psu

[hollow thorn]

I go now

[quaint current]

yuh this is an itx case

[tulip raft]

2 Intel Xeon 2643 0s RTX 2070 Super 64 GB DDR3 1600 MHZ

But that flare kit I should get for ram

[deft phoenix]

What mobos should i be looking out for for my 3850x when they restock next month?

[deft phoenix]

also is the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra good?

[long geyser]

@quaint current I feel like bottom fan would need to be a Delta fan for the GPUs not to die

[eager ridge]

I purchased a set of 2 16gb Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3200mhz off of a seller on eBay and one of the sticks came DOA. I'm now looking for a replacement. Since 1 16gb stick is not offered, I was thinking of purchasing the 2x8gb and pairing it with the 1x16gb I currently have. However on the other hand I was looking at "GeIL SUPER LUCE RGB SYNC 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200" which is at a super affordable deal right now. However I'm worried that using the GeIL will sacrifice some performance. Is this the case?

[naive pendant]

if the timing and CAS latency are the same, go with whichever one you want

Question, which dim sticks are recommended for r5 or r7

I wont be doing any oc. Just pure stock settings

[midnight pollen]

with ryzen usually 3600mhz or above and a cas latency of 16 or lower

[naive pendant]

Ok thanks

[midnight pollen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#S=3600,5000&L=30,160

a list with the filters ^

[naive pendant]

One more question, any particular brand to stay clear of?

And the ones recommended

[eager ridge]

So if both sticks are DDR4-3200 PC4 25600, they are relatively the same? @naive pendant

[midnight pollen]

g skill is pretty good. i can't think of any to stay away from off the top of my head

[naive pendant]

yea

they are

same cas latency, timing and sped

[eager ridge]

Okay. Cause the Corsair is $92, whereas the Geil is only about 63.

[naive pendant]

@midnight pollen ok thanks

yeah the geil is much cheap[er

you just wont get like icue integratiion

[eager ridge]

Just wanted to ensure I wasn't going to be forfeiting performance. Thanks man! I believe they have their own RGB program.

[naive pendant]

no prob

[eager ridge]

ASUS Aura Sync is what they're powered with

[naive pendant]

yeah

so if you have an asus mobo, you can connect dummy led strips to it to sync thosee and your ram

in the software

[eager ridge]

I don't, I have an x570 Aorus Elite, but thanks for the suggestion. Corsair's memory was working with RGBFusion, but I don't think these would, right?

[naive pendant]

im not sure about rgbfusion, i thought icue was proprietary, but these may work if you heard something about that

[eager ridge]

Alright. I guess my final question would be should I run dual channel with 1 16 & 1 8gb, or the two 8gb?

16 & 8 being different brands, but same speeds/timing

[naive pendant]

two 8g

[eager ridge]

Okay

[naive pendant]

not sure what you would run into with different density ram modules

[eager ridge]

Thanks for your help man

[naive pendant]

no problem

[naive pendant]

Question, can you add ur own m.2 heatsinks if mobo didn't feature any?

[weak hamlet]

yep

[naive pendant]

Kl

[midnight pollen]

you can if you want to but don't really need one unless some of the pcie 4.0 drives

[naive pendant]

Understood

[brave path]

i need help does this all look ok

[midnight pollen]

[hollow thorn]

Bro

1.4v..?

[brave path]

is that bad

[midnight pollen]

is that stock settings

[brave path]

i think

[mild jackal]

vid != vcore.

Also - use ryzen master or hwinfo64

[gritty patio]

Anyone else buy the 3300X?

[charred venture]

I've already got a Z390 mobo, what cpu would u recommend?

[tacit hemlock]

what are you using it for and what's the budget?

[charred venture]

looking to build a gaming pc and hoping to find a sweet spot in terms of price per perf.

graphics are rx 580 8gig i got for 90$

I was thinking 9600k or 8700k

[meager pecan]

B550-A Pro looks

[quaint current]

dunno if anything can beat the z490 unify itx but it looks pretty nice

[long geyser]

apart from the other two SATA cables that'd go over the RAM

[quaint current]

looks like you can just bend the cable unless u have thicc ram

[long geyser]

I mean ye, but would look out of place if you like dem looks

[quaint current]

just bend it 180 ez

[tranquil wolf]

@charred venture i have a 9600K OC'd to 4.9 paired w/ a 2060 Super and loving it for my gaming

[charred venture]

nice nice

do you need an aio? If so, what would you recommend?

[tranquil wolf]

I was using a Corsair H100i 240mm which worked fine, now using a Silverstone 360mm bc my case will fit it

[charred venture]

did u get good temps with the H100i?

I'm thinking of getting that

[tranquil wolf]

usually stayed low 70s, if i did torture in P95 it would jump to 88-90

like right now i am mostly around 35-40c, max temps have been 66-69

[charred venture]

alright, will prob go for the h100i, ty for the advice

[tranquil wolf]

no prob

[meager pecan]

@quaint current was speaking more from a features and build standpoint rather than pure aesthetics but yeah

[mint pike]

So im very confused from what I've read, So a mother board that I am getting for free with a i7-4790, the max memory that is labeled without (OC) next to it is 1600, can I put 2400mhz ddr3 in the mother board? and then overclock it to its potential?

Or do I have to use 1600 speed and overclock it then

[hollow thorn]

I mean if the max memory is 1600, it means it'll only run at 1600

its locked

cant oc it if it's locked

[mint pike]

where can i send pictures to show you what the discription sayus

[hollow thorn]

if it says (OC) it usually means that's OCed above usual

[mint pike]

LGA1150
Chipset: Intel Z97 Express
Memory: 2x DDR3-3000(OC)/ 2933(OC)/ 2800(OC)/ 2666(OC)/ 2600(OC)/ 2500(OC)/ 2400(OC)/ 2200(OC)/ 2133(OC)/ 2000(OC)/ 1866(OC)/ 1800(OC)/ 1600/ 1333 DIMM Slots, Dual Channel, Non-ECC, Max Capacity of 16GB
Slots: 1x PCI-Express 3.0 x16 Slot, 1x Mini PCI-Express Slot
SATA: 6x SATA3 Ports, Support RAID 0, 1, 5, 10
Memory Support: 2 x DDR3 DIMM; MAX 16GB; Support for DDR3 1600/1333 MHz memory modules
Onboard graphics: 1 x DVI-I port,2 x HDMI ports, Support for up to 3 displays at the same time
LAN: 2 x Gbe LAN

Forgot I could just copy paste

So I would only be able to use 1600, thenOC it to a higher speed?

[split copper]

with Z97 I think you can get higher than 1600MHz

[mint pike]

gigabyte z97n?

[hollow thorn]

oh

yea you can do that

[digital kernel]

Hello, my friend is having an issue with a stripped screw on the nvme cover on his MB. Any advice?

[gritty patio]

Yiikes

feelsbadman

[split copper]

replacement screw

[gritty patio]

but how to take it off

[digital kernel]

Yeah

[quaint current]

take the mobo out and wack a rod through it really hard

[digital kernel]

Thinking that's not helpful

[gritty patio]

it'll get out the screw

lmao

[digital kernel]

It's a pretty nice MB though, and I'd rather not see it break

[quaint current]

yeah its not really easy to get a stripped screw out

[gritty patio]

get some pliers and try to twist it out

[digital kernel]

There's no way to get to the sides

[split copper]

there is

[digital kernel]

It's recessed

[split copper]

remove the board

[digital kernel]

It's recessed

media. discordapp.net/attachments/590263428581425155/715683729774739516/JPEG_20200528_175134.jpg?width=361&height=643

Won't let me post pictures, so here's a url instead

[hollow thorn]

damn

[digital kernel]

Yeah

[split copper]

http://media.discordapp.net/attachments/590263428581425155/715683729774739516/JPEG_20200528_175134.jpg

[hollow thorn]

yikes

[digital kernel]

Thanks @split copper

[split copper]

yw^^

[digital kernel]

It's a brand new MB, so currently our best plan is to do an RMA.

[split copper]

sounds good

[digital kernel]

Hopefully they have some in stock. It's an AMD motherboard 🙄

[main pulsar]

idk if they will let you RMA over a stripped screw

get a bunch of flatheads, the best part of flatheads is that they are super useful for everything else besides using them for their intended purpose

[digital kernel]

Yeah. Asus said it would be borderline, but amazon looks like they're okay with it

[main pulsar]

huh

nice

[naive pendant]

ASUS TUF B450-Pro Gaming AM4

Delivered today

[tacit hemlock]

Good board 👍

[warm fulcrum]

When will more PCIe 4.0 boards come out? Closer to the 3000 series release?

[digital kernel]

B550 mother boards will support pcie 4, not sure when intel will be getting them

[warm fulcrum]

yeah i wanted intel

not amd

[digital kernel]

Why's that?

[warm fulcrum]

cuz my build is going to be an intel build

not a big fan of amd

[digital kernel]

Why not?

[warm fulcrum]

although they are better

then they were

u feel like there stuff isnt as quality

[digital kernel]

Nvidia is using amd chips in their 3000 gen compute servers

[warm fulcrum]

oh well there ya go lol

idk i just prefer intel'

[digital kernel]

The latest amd chips have better single core performance now too

[warm fulcrum]

which cpu?

cuz i was gonna get a 9700k

intel

[digital kernel]

amd slaughters 9700k

[warm fulcrum]

which cpu>

?

[digital kernel]

The new ones are the 3600xt, 3800xt, and 3900xt

[warm fulcrum]

really? Ill look up bench marks. how much is the 3800xt?

[digital kernel]

No clue. They're not on the shelves yet. Likely around 300-350 though

[warm fulcrum]

oh so there like not even out yet? There new line of cards?

[digital kernel]

8 core 8 thread on the 9700k?

[warm fulcrum]

cpu*

yes

[digital kernel]

Yeah. Likely fall or so

[warm fulcrum]

hmmm. yeah i may be switching to amd. We will see

[digital kernel]

Yeah 🙂

intel's going to be catching up for a bit

3800 also has twice the thread count

the 3800x that's out now also has better performance

[warm fulcrum]

huh. And these are not out yet?/

[digital kernel]

3800xt is not out, 3800x is

[warm fulcrum]

ok but the others are

that you meantioned earlier>

[digital kernel]

The xt ones aren't yet. They just showed up in the benchmarks this morning

[warm fulcrum]

oh om

ok

[digital kernel]

The 3800x though is somewhere around $375

Still whups the 9700k

[warm fulcrum]

yeah and the 9700k is like what that same price about/

?

[digital kernel]

I bit more expensive I think

[warm fulcrum]

hmm. well when is comes out, i may have to get one. Or i will just pick this one up

[digital kernel]

The 3800x is out right now

It's also on sale right now

[quaint current]

9700k is also last gen, and 3700x better value than 3800x (just lose a little clock speed)

[digital kernel]

Yeah 3800x is on sale for 335 right now though

[warm fulcrum]

should I wait for the xt then? cuz im waiting for the 3070 anyways

[digital kernel]

If you're waiting for the 3070, might as well wait for the 3800xt

Or even 4800x if it's out

[quaint current]

3700x is 275 on amazon rn its a killer deal

[digital kernel]

Dang, yeah that's good

[warm fulcrum]

How much is the 4800xt supposed to be?

[digital kernel]

4800xt may not happen

[warm fulcrum]

Im waiting till september do do my build so i can get everything at once

well then ill do the 3800xt

[digital kernel]

4800x will be somewhere between 200 and 600

[quaint current]

4800xt is next gen and they havent said anything about refreshing it bc its not out yet

[digital kernel]

4800xt is refreshed next gen too 🙂

[quaint current]

yuh

[digital kernel]

I want to see what that's like

You see the speculations that next gen will be on 5nm?

[quaint current]

but were still on normal third gen so thats going to be at least a year or two

[warm fulcrum]

yeah. well i may be going to amd then this time around

[digital kernel]

Yeah. AMD's on the up swing. Give intel two or three years and they should be on the top again

[warm fulcrum]

Yeah. AMD it is

imma wait for PCIe mobos

4.0

[digital kernel]

x570 is out and already has pcie 4

[warm fulcrum]

actually yeah your right. I saw that the other day. forgot about that

[digital kernel]

b550 will be out soon, but for the 3800xt probably would want the x570 mb

[warm fulcrum]

aight sweet

[quaint current]

eh i'd say b550 will be fine for any of the new cpus, the real factor will be cost

[warm fulcrum]

whats the cost differnece

[digital kernel]

3800xt would be a power sipper

hopefully

[quaint current]

we dont know the price yet

at least all of them, msi has some prices out iirc

[digital kernel]

Maybe 50-100 based on the difference between b450 and x470

[warm fulcrum]

ah ok

[arctic vault]

When is the release date for i9 10900k?

[midnight pollen]

I thought it already released

[rocky edge]

Hey, I'm looking at my Mobo options. I have a fan that will block the top PCIe slot on this board: PRIME TRX40-PRO sTRX4 AMD

Can I use the other 2? Shouldn't be a problem right? Says they're the same kind

[pliant flicker]

@arctic vault it's already released, good luck finding it in stock though

[digital kernel]

@rocky edge It's usually considered best practice to use the top most slots, but the other two slots should work as well. You might run into higher latency, but it shouldn't be too bad

[midnight pollen]

top pcie slot usually has more bandwidth

[digital kernel]

sTRX4 should be able to serve full bandwidth to all of them. I'll check though

Which threadripper do you have @rocky edge?

[midnight pollen]

it should be fine

[digital kernel]

Just checked. All the slots have full bandwidth as long as the CPU has enough PCIe lines

[prisma spoke]

Is this the 1600 af

“1600 GHz”

And processor count of 2

[split copper]

what the hell

[rocky edge]

@digital kernel it would be the 3960x (Don't have it yet) and the fan I have is the be quiet dark rock pro tr4

And thank you for looking at that, I'd thought the top slot was best, but wanted to check.

[digital kernel]

np

Have fun with the threadripper. I'm jealous

[tulip raft]

What cpu should I really get

The 10900K or what

[quaint current]

if ur gaming 10600k

[split copper]

i3-350M

:)

[tulip raft]

@quaint current not just gaming

[quaint current]

mainly gaming?

if so 10600k, if more productivity 3700x

[tulip raft]

I’m willing to spend 700 on a cpu

😂

[quaint current]

10700k/10900k arent really good choices for the price, so probably 3900x

or 3950x if you really need the cores

[tulip raft]

When is the 3900XT out?

[quaint current]

7/7 rumored

if you can wait a little i'd see the performance, look pretty good

[tulip raft]

My Fish Tank Cooling is going to be finished in a week oof

I might go with the 3950X

Either way I won’t ever get my hands on 10900K

[devout moth]

Swift#6660 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Swift#6660 has been banned for 1 day

Reason: Too many infractions

[unban]

Banned until · May 30, 2020, 5:16 PM

[quaint current]

lol

[rigid dragon]

Rip

[digital kernel]

If you have $700 dollars, you can get the 3950x at the prices it's at right now

[rigid dragon]

Ye

[midnight pollen]

f

[rigid dragon]

How do y’all become a techie

[quaint current]

be at least slightly okay

[split copper]

I'm not convinced of this criteria

[light delta]

Alright so I got a budget of like up to $200 for an AMD processor. I currently am looking at getting the 3300x but am looking for thoughts on that

[digital kernel]

3300x is solid. What are you looking to do with it @light delta?

[light delta]

Just gaming really

[quaint current]

3300x is a great budget gaming cpu

[light delta]

Awesome also is it still preorder? Right now its been shown as out of stock and others have said its preorder still

[digital kernel]

Could be. It's still brand new

[quaint current]

its brand new so it has low stock+ high demand https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1558666-REG/amd_ryzen_3_3300x_quad_core.html

b+h says "new item-coming soon"

[light delta]

Alright do you guys recommend getting it from BH or Newegg? BH is cheaper but tbh I trust newegg a lot more because I've never heard of bh

[quaint current]

b+h is a trustworthy store, they just dont have as much items or stock as newegg

they do a lot of photo and video stuff also

[light delta]

Ah ok I've just never heard of them so I was a bit skeptical

But thank you you guys are great

[quaint current]

yeah they have some pretty good sales once and again, but with all the other 3300x's at $200 its the only good place to buy

[light delta]

Alright I'll try and order it once it's out thanks again

[wet knot]

hi im having a problem with my mobo, when i try to boot the computer with a dp cord it shows a white error light on my mobo, but when i use an hdmi cord itm runs perfectly fine

[digital kernel]

What motherboard+cpu?

[polar fern]

is the z390 a pro from msi, compatible with the h510i

and how would i know if a certain mobo is compatible with a case?

[quaint current]

it is its just a standard atx size

[polar fern]

so yes?

oh ok

so atx- mid tower, is the same as just regular atx right?

[quaint current]

yeah just slightly smaller

[polar fern]

hmm alright

thanks

do you think there would be any issues with installing the mobo?

[upbeat lichen]

from a mobo standpoint they're the same, the case size is the only difference

[polar fern]

oh ok

[upbeat lichen]

any case labeled atx, be it mid tower, full tower, etc, will all fit an atx board, and most atx cases can also fit micro-atx boards as well

so unless you're trying to pair a mini-atx board with an atx case, or using something like an e-atx board, you shouldn't have to worry too much about mobo-case compatibility

[polar fern]

alright

thanks for the help

[left edge]

Let's overclock a AMD FX-9590

[mild jackal]

Yes

[polar fern]

you guys think i should get the 9600k over the 9400f?

rn 9600k is 200 and the 9400f is 170

is the extra 30 dollars worth it?

[tardy depot]

anyone know where i can get the 10900k rn at retail lol

[polar fern]

...

[digital kernel]

Does Newegg not have it?

[tardy depot]

no sadly

[quaint current]

its sold out everywhere bc its new

[digital kernel]

Dang

[tardy depot]

any idea when itll be bacck in stock

[gritty patio]

@polar fern I'm assuming you're upgrading?

[tranquil wolf]

@polar fern if it were me I would go w/ the 9600K over the 9400f... 9600K comes w/ an integrated GPU and the 9400F does not (in case you need it in case of emergency); The 9600K is able to be OC'd if you're into that and the 9400F is not; 3.7GHz vs 2.9GHz... just my take

[warm fulcrum]

are the ryzen xt cpus coming in july?

Thought i read that but i didnt knp

wknow

know

[digital kernel]

That's the best guess. Haven't seen anything official though

[warm fulcrum]

ok. hope there not to expensive

[digital kernel]

Probably about the same price as they're non xt counterparts, plus a few dozen bucks

[warm fulcrum]

Oh ok. good. I havent looked at benchmarks or anything, but how much more powerful will they be vs the non xt ones

[digital kernel]

They beat out intel's 10900k on all tests

[quaint current]

yuh 7/7 is the rumored launch date

[digital kernel]

Including single threaded

[warm fulcrum]

oh dang!

imma snag one of those then

[polar fern]

Um, no im not upgrading im actually planning on building my first pc

I bought a laptop and regret it so much

[alpine light]

I don't understand when people get all hyped over controlled environment benchmarks instead of just waiting for actual real world comparisons and reviews.

[gritty patio]

oh

@polar fern are you going intel just because or what??

its a more expensive platform without much to offer from a price to performance standpoint

amd is completely blowing them out of the water rn in terms of everything including the chips coming out in July

[polar fern]

im going intel since the 9600k is on sale rn

its 200

would you reccomend an amd processor over the 9600k?

recommend*

@gritty patio

[deep vigil]

@polar fern whats the goal for the pc?

[polar fern]

Hardcore gaming

I just realized the ryzen 5 3600 was actually 167

and it’s the same so I might go with that

Kinda the same performance wise*

@deep vigil

[deep vigil]

@polar fern if you want to game more go with a 3600 and put more into gpu

about half of total budget should be gpu

unless budget system

[polar fern]

@deep vigil ima pair it with a 1660 super

[gritty patio]

yeah do that @polar fern

idk why'd u go intel lmao

especially last gen with fewer cores

plus the 3600 is the cheapest i've ever seen it

and it also depends on where you're buying it from as well

go newegg if u want the game pass

go amazon if you want the cheapest

and i have a way to make it even cheaper if the promo still works

and what 1660S exactly?

[polar fern]

@gritty patio https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-GTX-1660-Wraparound/dp/B07YXQS33J/ref=sr_1_16?dchild=1&keywords=GeForce+GTX+1660+super&qid=1590799634&sr=8-16

[gritty patio]

oh the one i recommended earlier lmao

yeah that card is cute

do you have a build yet or nah?

@polar fern

[polar fern]

nah

I dont

[gritty patio]

you're going more midrange right?

[polar fern]

i have no idea what that means sorry

mid range as in?

[gritty patio]

what you're building rn

i went the same route

[polar fern]

ah ok

was yours good?

[gritty patio]

so i'm pretty briefed on what i think ur trying to get at

lmao i havent gotten my parts yet

and i went a slightly cheaper route as well

[polar fern]

yea im trying to stay in the 1000 range

with my whole setup

[gritty patio]

monitor included?

[polar fern]

yes

[gritty patio]

peripherals as well?

[polar fern]

yea

[gritty patio]

damn

[polar fern]

ill spend 1100 maybe

but thats about it

[gritty patio]

yeah thats something to work with if you were building with that 3600

cause another ryzen chip comes out in a couple of days which i managed to pre-order and it performs the same if not better in some games as the 3600

but its like $40 less

the ryzen 3 3300X

it just has 2 less cores

[polar fern]

isnt more cores better?

[gritty patio]

but its really good for gaming nonetheless

technically yess

[polar fern]

and do you know if the ryzen 3600 comes with a stock cooler?

[gritty patio]

but most games hardly utilize all the cores

[polar fern]

ah ok

[gritty patio]

and yes the stock cooler is fine if you're not overclocking

yeah there's a lot learning involved to get a nice price

if you're strictly gaming then the 3300X is a great option

but if you want "futureproof" yourself i'd go with the 3600

[polar fern]

i found a bundle rn tho and its 15 bucks off

[gritty patio]

you seem to have a little more in your budget than i did in mine

[polar fern]

with mobo, ram, and 3600

[gritty patio]

what mobo?

and ram as well

send me the link

[polar fern]

b450M DS3H

[gritty patio]

pls

[polar fern]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3962281&Description=ryzen 3600

[gritty patio]

of that gigbyte mb?

[polar fern]

yes

[gritty patio]

oo ok

[polar fern]

I might order that bundle instead

would i need thermal paste for this build?

[gritty patio]

wait nah

dont

[polar fern]

wait why

[gritty patio]

that ram is like $122

thats like $50 over price lmao

[polar fern]

I could save a lot more huh

[gritty patio]

yeah lmao

lemme put a build for you rq

[polar fern]

alright

[gritty patio]

i can get you a good deal on the 3600 i think

like $15 off

from the one on amazon if you're going to order it off of there

also

[polar fern]

its on newegg too

[gritty patio]

yeah but i cant get an extra $15 off on newegg

if you want the game pass they offer on newegg

then by all means order it off of there

but if you dont care then i may be able to get the deal for you

also

[polar fern]

im trying to save money rn so the deal is good

[gritty patio]

what size case are you going for?

micro atx?

atx?

[polar fern]

the gigabyte b450m is a micro atx

so yes

[gritty patio]

okok

i gotchu

[polar fern]

i gotta switch my case now

I saw this one called darkflash or sum

it looked nice

[gritty patio]

yeah

i was thinking ab that too whenever i wanted to go micro atx as well

nice cases

[polar fern]

yep they are pretty cheap to i believe

[gritty patio]

do you want it to be flashy are nah?

like rgb and stuff

[polar fern]

honestly performance over anything and if its cheaper

[gritty patio]

okok

also

3200 ram isnt much off from 3600 in terms of performance based on what i've seen

so it'll save you like $10 or more

[polar fern]

im gonna try to run a lot of games on high settings tho

wouldn't the speed help with stability

[gritty patio]

just pop out a little more frames based what i know

but i'll put 3600

instead of the 3200

[polar fern]

ah ok

[gritty patio]

yeah its 3600 is a little over priced rn so a little more money is going towards that

[polar fern]

hmm how much more?

[gritty patio]

like $12 more

[polar fern]

ah alright

[gritty patio]

and you said 1660Super right?

[polar fern]

yes

[gritty patio]

okok thx

[polar fern]

would the b450m 75 dollar mobo be good

or would it be low quality

[gritty patio]

that gigabyte one is of better quality than the lower budget options

[polar fern]

which one

the one in the combo?

[gritty patio]

yeah

i gotta look it at it rq hol up

i think we'll go with that one lmao

[polar fern]

the 75 dollar one?

[gritty patio]

i didnt know it had an nvme slow

*slot

not unless you want a nicer one

[polar fern]

nvme one would be the better one huh

[gritty patio]

but the differences aren't night and day

well the gigabyte one in the bundle actually has an nvme slot

i didn't know that lul

so imma change it to that unless you want this one

imma link

[polar fern]

ok

[gritty patio]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MV9BMNY?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

here

[polar fern]

ooh

that one looks nice

for only 30 dollars more

[gritty patio]

yeah

theres some compatibility issues that pc part picker is picking up

__

[polar fern]

what issues?

[gritty patio]

wait nvm

dont click that

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pNYBp8

here this should be what i just put together

on the bottom it'll say the issues

that mb i put actually comes with 2 nvme slots

[polar fern]

yooo thats good

[gritty patio]

but based off the issues you wont even be able to use it lmao

srry

[polar fern]

the only primary issue would be the bios no?

[gritty patio]

most of the newer ones ship with it already flashed

[polar fern]

wdym

[gritty patio]

this website isn't exactly up to date all the time

[polar fern]

aw ok

[gritty patio]

like it already has the necessary bios on it

at least mine did

[polar fern]

so why wouldn't i be able to use it then?

[gritty patio]

or that's what the box says lmoa

the second nvme slot shares bandwidth with one of the sata ports

so you could either use the sata port which would disable the second nvme

or vice versa

[polar fern]

id probably only use the hdd tho

[gritty patio]

yeah if you dont plan on using the second nvme slot you'll be fine

[polar fern]

hmm so other than that this is a pretty solid build

[gritty patio]

yeah

should be able to run max settings in 1080p at higher than 60fps

[polar fern]

easily

[gritty patio]

fitting a monitor and the rest in is the easiest part

just depends on what you're looking for

[polar fern]

hey bro, so do all of the 3600s come with a stock cooler?

or do some come sold seperately

[gritty patio]

yeah

all of amd's cpus do

[polar fern]

thats good

[gritty patio]

they also come with paste applied onto the bottom

so even less of an expense

[polar fern]

its like a sticker right?

the thermal paste?

[gritty patio]

wym?

welll kinda

[polar fern]

hmm ill just have to wait and see i guess

[gritty patio]

its already applied onto the bottom of the cooler so make sure not to touch it or set it down anywhere unless its on the cpu

https://slickdeals.net/f/13805819-amazon-15-credit-when-you-purchase-50-in-amazon-gift-cards-big-ymmv

[polar fern]

alrighty

[gritty patio]

also heres how to get the $15 credit on amazon

if it still works

i used it a couple of days ago and it worked for me

[polar fern]

thanks

[gritty patio]

the credit wont be applied automatically tho

[polar fern]

and would there be any other issues in the build?

[gritty patio]

so you may have to wait a day or 2

not that i can see

and pc part pickers says nothing

you'll just need some fans

[polar fern]

how do i know which fans to get?

[gritty patio]

and i also made sure the case had a front mech panel for easy airflow

idk how many that case comes with

lemme see

[polar fern]

" Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions."

that seems like a huge issue

[gritty patio]

i believe thats for older chips not newer ones

i can check hol up

and you'll prolly need 4 or 5 fans

three intake and 1 or 2 for exhaust

[polar fern]

intake would be in the front

and exhaust in the back of the case

right

?

[gritty patio]

yes

[polar fern]

so on pc picker, on the bottom it says order from amazon, would i have to order newegg completely 1 by 1?

[gritty patio]

also im reading that the newer ones come with a sticker on the box indicating ryzen 3000 series ready out of the box

[polar fern]

so theres no issue

?

[gritty patio]

shouldnt be

[polar fern]

epic

[gritty patio]

i bought the same mb but just the atx version and it came with a sticker

yeah

you'll have to order the parts yourself and go to the websites wherever they're in stock at

[polar fern]

ah ok

[gritty patio]

yeah

[polar fern]

for the fans you got any ideas which ones to get

[gritty patio]

i've been planning my build and slowly buying it since march so i've learned a thing or 2

uhmm no clue

[polar fern]

ah ok ive been planning on building one but never actually bought anything

[gritty patio]

i was going to buy this cheap 5 pack but i opted for a case that included fans

[polar fern]

hmm ok

[gritty patio]

yeah now isn't the ideal time imo

but i want to play during the summer

[polar fern]

yea

same

everything should arrive before summer

hopefully

[gritty patio]

yeah im pretty sure it will

im just waiting on my cpu and case at this point

you gonna get a mechanical keyboard or nah?

[polar fern]

yea i am

im gonnna get one of the small keyboards

im not into the long ones

[gritty patio]

yeah i also got a tkl keyboard

super sexy too

[polar fern]

haha epic

im gonna switch out theh 550 watt for the 600 watt from newegg,

[gritty patio]

yeah it was hard finding a nice white one that wasnt overpriced

[polar fern]

the*

yea they are expensive

[gritty patio]

okko

yeah also psu are wayyy up on their price as well

i was lucky enough to buy a pretty beefy one at a rather "great price"

[polar fern]

i found a 600watt from thermaltake for 65

its on sale doe

so i gotta buy it pretty quickly

[gritty patio]

make sure it has good reviews

[polar fern]

is this your first build too?

alright

[gritty patio]

yeah actually it is

i've had a prebuilt for like 4 years

[polar fern]

same

[gritty patio]

but ended up getting my parts for really good prices imo

[polar fern]

mine was an overpriced laptop

[gritty patio]

rip

[polar fern]

yup

[gritty patio]

i couldnt bring myself to buy a laptop

[polar fern]

thought it was good and realized dell finessed me

[gritty patio]

not enough space

lmao

[polar fern]

yea i cant upgrade anything