#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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charred venture
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nice nice

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yeah ive had people tell me to buy 3600 ram at LEAST for my 2600x

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and i read the description and was confused

crude path
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nah youd be fine with 3000 or 3200.

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3600 is just a nice to have for 2000 chips imo

charred venture
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in case of upgrades?

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or for oc

crude path
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well that, but also if you can utilize it it will help a bit.

charred venture
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aight good to know

crude path
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but again, your mobo has to support it too. lot of people been trying to OC and then their pc wont post.

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(if that happens, clear cmos)

gritty patio
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I cannot find a 3300X anywhere peepoSadSip

hollow thorn
tacit hemlock
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June 8th isn't that bad actually

gritty patio
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so its worth?

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i saw it there but i thinking it'll go in stock somewhere and i'll get it before then but i think not

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but thats availability not the actual ship date

tacit hemlock
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A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush

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Id get it

gritty patio
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okok thx

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one last thing

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its that i bought a used asrock mb off of amazon and so it doesnt come with a manufacturer warranty

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so i only have 30 days to return it the day i receive it

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so since it says i'll get it on May 27 that means i have until june 26 to try it out and make sure everything runs fine

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so what do yall think?

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will i get the 3300x in time for just get the 3600

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and i'd be getting it for around $157 without tax

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@tacit hemlock @hollow thorn

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:)))

hollow thorn
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If you can get 3600 for like 160$, and it fits in your budget, it's a nice to have

tacit hemlock
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And a 3600 still slightly outperforms a 3300x games in iirc

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Or maybe thats a 3100 I forgot

gritty patio
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yeah amazon is having this deal where you buy a $50 giftcard and get a $15 credit so i'd apply it to the 3600

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maybe if it'll stop going up in price peepoSadSip

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thx btw

tacit hemlock
lethal charm
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@tacit hemlock You're building tomorrow?

tacit hemlock
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Building what?

lethal charm
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Pc

tacit hemlock
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No

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I was gonna do a case swap tmr but I did it today instead

lethal charm
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Ah, ok. Yeah, was tough to follow that convo.

tacit hemlock
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Ya lol tupb

lethal charm
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I will, ty
I'm building tomorrow... thought we were gonna be build buddies.

gritty patio
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rip the boy

tacit hemlock
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Awe my bad, I am doing have a build tmr tho. We can still do that

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Still gotta buy another psu but I'm putting everything else in the case

lethal charm
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Just timing / coincidence.
Gotcha. My psu came in today.

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(On phone now, slow to type)

tacit hemlock
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Nice.

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Me too lol

lethal charm
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Saw it, looks good. Front fans too flashy for me, tho :)

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I do like the rgb ram.
I opted out on them, went with 32gb ripsaw black

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No ragrets.

tacit hemlock
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Ripjaws is good. Better kit than mine most likely

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Cl18 peepoSadSip

neat valve
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what’s a good combo for $250

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for gaming

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and schoolwork

rich sphinx
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@neat valve Good combo of what

neat valve
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for cpu mobo and memory

rich sphinx
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Depends what you mean by "good" lol

hollow thorn
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Just CPU Mobo memory nothing else

lethal charm
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Was going to suggest Corsair Valueselect ram (based on my past budget experience), but difference is less than $10... Dumb

split copper
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Aegis Aegis Aegis

hollow thorn
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^

charred venture
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^

meager pecan
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hallelujah

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msi b550 boards have front usb type-c and argb

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I can finally build in the H510 without a dangling front type-c header

meager pecan
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the lineup is actually beautiful

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I can't help myself

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I have to cry now

meager pecan
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Asrock boards look good too

alpine light
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Looking for some help for my friend who just bought a Ryzen 3700x paired with an ASUS ROG Strix x570-e and corsair vengeance lpx 16gb 3600mhz. He's trying to enable XMP or DOCP for the ram and his system will not post.

tribal ginkgo
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Maybe try just overclocking the ram to 3600 instead of using s profile @alpine light

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A profile*

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Those kinda stink imo

alpine light
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What stinks?

naive pendant
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XMP and DOCP

alpine light
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So what he'll have to manually edit everything?

naive pendant
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it should be pretty straightforward if he looks at the spec sheet of the RAM

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IIRC

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just setting the settings to what the RAM uses

alpine light
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I'll relay that to him.

naive pendant
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I could be wrong

devout mothBOT
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JemuzuO_O#3632 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

alpine light
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Oh wow I can't say that.

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Ok.

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I guess we're all 5. Anyway.

naive pendant
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GL

alpine light
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It's stuff like this that keeps me from going Ryzen, unfortunately.

naive pendant
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I've had no problems

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R5 1600, R5 2600, and for a short time R5 3600 before switching again to a R5 2600 for budget reasons

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so I've had 4 ryzen builds, all worked flawlessly

alpine light
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This poor guys just upgraded to a 3700x with that board and ram + a 2070 and his gaming performance is like, incredibly inconsistent.

naive pendant
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other than my 1600 PC, but that was because of me buying crap RAM

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did he check the QVL for the RAM?

alpine light
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And I feel bad for him cause I'm over here with my 9700k/2070 super getting literally 240 rock solid.

naive pendant
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for the motherboard?

alpine light
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QVL?

naive pendant
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yes

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it's a compatability list

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what motherboard does he have?

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and what ram?

alpine light
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Well he's no tech novice so I'm going to say I think so but I can't give a definitive yes.

naive pendant
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well, I'm not a tech novice by any means, and I NEVER check the QVL

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but it's ususally best to

alpine light
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Asus ROG Strix x570-e

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And one sec.

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Yea

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VENGEANCE® LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3600MHz C14 AMD Ryzen Memory Kit - Black

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This shouldn't be an issue for him.

naive pendant
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so, it looks like it should be supported

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probably ™️

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Hmm

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what CPU is he using again?

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nvm

alpine light
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3700x

naive pendant
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He might just have gotten a bad part

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I dunno

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it should be compatible

alpine light
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It boots if he doesn't try to enable the advertised frequencies.

naive pendant
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hmmm

alpine light
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If he tries to use either pre-designed mode it won't post.

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I don't know what he's tried for manually clocking it.

naive pendant
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tell him to try to manually set the settings

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cuz he got very expensive, nice RAM

alpine light
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But his FPS in games is terribly inconsistent and we believe it's a result of very low ram speed.

naive pendant
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and yeah, that will do it with Ryzen

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tell him to get MemCheck or whatever too

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if he is nerd enough

alpine light
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Free utility to test the ram?

naive pendant
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MemTest

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yeah

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after setting the settings, he should run MemTest64 from his BIOS off a USB stick

alpine light
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I swore I wouldn't rest till I found an answer for him. Then I went to sleep. Now I'm here.

naive pendant
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if there is a problem still, assuming he does everything right, then it might be a bad stick or RAM or something

boreal cargo
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It could just not run that fast with his hardware it's by no means garenteed to run as it's overclocked ram

naive pendant
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you must have missed something Thuraya

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he can't get his XMP profile to work

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even though it's the right profile for the RAM

alpine light
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It's specifically advertised as VENGEANCE® LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3600MHz C14 AMD Ryzen Memory Kit - Black

naive pendant
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so the RAM is running at a lower speed than advertised

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even though it's compatible as well

alpine light
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Rated for that speed specifically with Ryzen architecture.

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It's very doubtful it isn't supported.

boreal cargo
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Doesn't matter 3600 is overclocked sure it might work but it by no means has to

naive pendant
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the motherboard supports it, the RAM is rated for it

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it should work

alpine light
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I don't think you understand how product advertisement works.

naive pendant
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if it doesn't, it's a defective product, or false advertising

alpine light
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If they list it as Ryzen specific 3600mhz ram then yes, it IS guaranteed to run at that speed.

boreal cargo
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Not false advertising at all 3600 isn't ddr4 spec and only works if mobo and cpu are willing to run the oc

alpine light
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Yea that's not how that works.

naive pendant
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lmao

boreal cargo
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It's exactly how it works

naive pendant
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last I checked, it's not how law works

alpine light
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If I go buy some extra ram at micro center this morning and it won't run at 3200mhz as advertised, they'll replace it no questions asked.

naive pendant
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because it's defective

alpine light
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So I'm gonna have to go with you're wrong.

naive pendant
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he IS right that it's technically an overclock, but he is wrong on the false advertising and the "not guaranteed" stuff

alpine light
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What IS true is if he bought two separate sticks they may not work with each other and therefor not be gauranteed.

naive pendant
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3600 is indeed not the BASE spec

alpine light
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But if you buy them in a set they are rated for those speeds with those grouped sticks. Aka dual or quad channel memory.

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You might as well just stop because you're not correct.

boreal cargo
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Should be is not garenteed

alpine light
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Ok let me explain a different way.

naive pendant
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🍿

alpine light
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When I bought my 9700k it's base clock is what, 3.6ghz? If it doesn't peak at stock settings at the 4.9ghz on a single core like it is ADVERTISED that it can attain, I can RMA it, why? Because that's how advertising works buddy.

naive pendant
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xD

boreal cargo
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Sigh...... Thevram doesn't get to decide if it boots at it's rated speed there could be a less than ideal trace on the mobo or a weaker memory controler on cpu stopping the system from running 3600

naive pendant
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yes, but he is using a supported RAM on supported Motherboard on supported CPU

boreal cargo
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Doesn't mean you're garenteed to hit overclocked ram speed

alpine light
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Is it possible he could adjust voltages? I've read that sometimes with Ryzen it needs a different fixed boot voltage for the ram and then it will function off the normal DOCP profile once fully booted.

naive pendant
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the CPU states is supports higher than 3600, the motherboard states is supports higher than 3600, and the RAM states is supports 3600.

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that means, either someone is falsly advertising, or something is defective

alpine light
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He doesn't get it.

naive pendant
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IKR?

alpine light
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It is only important to him to be right at this point despite being wrong.

naive pendant
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🍿

alpine light
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Just ignore him.

boreal cargo
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I'll leave you to your ignorance then

alpine light
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Thanks. Have a good day.

naive pendant
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LMAO

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this guy xD

alpine light
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You're not leaving me to my ignorance.

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You lied.

naive pendant
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🍿

boreal cargo
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The best thing you can do is try and manual set settings and hope it works

naive pendant
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imma go, have fun bois

alpine light
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We covered that. Thanks.

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Ok yea I'm gonna go too.

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No no stop typing idc.

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@alpine light has left the chat

meager pecan
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I have never seen so much ignorance and entitlement transpire over a few screens worth of text

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I just wanted to talk about B550 motherboards getting front USB-C headers but okay

naive pendant
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onice. I might have to wait for B550 then

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instead of getting B450 or X470

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also, same Hyper. Same.

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kek

naive pendant
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Asus TUF B450M-Pro Gaming

Picked this up today, n I'm sitting here like what's next

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My next objective is GPU, any suggestions?

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what's your budget?

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For gpu I'm thinking like in the $100-$200 range

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hmm

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lemme check prices RQ

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I know super low budget

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EVGA is always the way to go IMO

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and this card is probably the best bang for buck IMO

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Mmm anything that cranks out 8GB on gddr5? Guess I may have to alter my budget

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wait, what?

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it's 4GB

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I know

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OH

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OH

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I read wrong

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sorry

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Its kl

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yeah, nothing that'll do 8GB at that price point

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well, actually

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maybe a RX 570?

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lemme check

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yeah, you can get a RX 570 8GB

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or a 580 8GB

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Dose the beans matter in a sense

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Brand* lol

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ASUS or MSI if you're going AMD IMO

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EVGA 100% if you are going nVidia

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I've had too many problems with Gigabyte to count

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I see thanks I'll check em out some more

rich sphinx
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In order to assure the potential for 4K at 60 FPS, does the motherboard itself need to have HDMI 2.0, or would it be possible as long as the GPU has HDMI 2.0?

hollow thorn
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GPU and monitor both need to support htmi 2.0

rich sphinx
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GPU and monitor both need to support htmi 2.0
@hollow thorn So the motherboard isn't part of determining that, correct?

hollow thorn
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Yes

rich sphinx
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Thanks, good to know

jovial nova
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Good or no?

gritty patio
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imo no

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i would get a 2060ko for $20 more that outperforms that card

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@jovial nova

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this is a good deal considering its the ultra version of the ko card or the same exact price with the rebate card

jovial nova
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It’s not rgb

charred venture
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^

daring patio
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@jovial nova If its not vertically mounted then rgb is mostly not visible

jovial nova
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Eh I don’t got that much cash

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259 - 319

charred venture
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oh then get the 2060ko

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much better perf

daring patio
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and ray tracing

jovial nova
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Eh

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My parents probally won’t let me buy that

charred venture
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? why its like 30 dollars diff

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@daring patio is ray tracing ever that useful in lower end rtx cards?

daring patio
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with lower ray tracing and dlss it should be around 40 fps

charred venture
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on minecraft?

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or which game lol

wet fog
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I get 18 fps in minecraft render 2

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My processor is: Intel pentium

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e 5700

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4gb ram

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I will go cry because of build pics

charred venture
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lol

wet fog
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same

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I'm done with my life

charred venture
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you can always save up for a new pc :))

wet fog
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You guys pay 1700$

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I need to pay 74k$

charred venture
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my first pc was <500$

wet fog
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to atleat gtx 1660

charred venture
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do you even have a gpu?

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or intel integrated

wet fog
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intel

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g41

charred venture
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buy a gpu

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dedicated

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see if u can grab some used rx 570 or something like that

wet fog
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I'm poor

hollow thorn
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so how much do you have

dusty jolt
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Looking for memory to pair with R5 3600. Looking at 3200 @ 14 cl or 3600 @ 16cl ?

hollow thorn
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whichever is cheaper really

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3200cl14 is good b die

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great of OCing

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3600cl16 is just good, likely cjr/djr but good for no ocing

dusty jolt
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Thanks. The 14 cl is only 9 dollars more while on sale. Flare X. Putting it on a X 470 Gig. Aorus Ultra

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swapping out my 2600X with Flare X 16cl

fathom frost
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does anyone know if the msi b450 gaming pro mobo has a slot to put a wifi card? I bought a used pc that doesnt have wifi and i am new to pc building etc. so i don' t know

hollow thorn
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@fathom frost gaming pro carbon?

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becaues gaming pro carbon ac has built-in wifi

fathom frost
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i dont know, it says gaming plus on it but not carbon

hollow thorn
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oh gaming plus

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thats a different board

fathom frost
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oh i mistyped

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i meant plus

hollow thorn
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Yea most motherboards (if not all) has pcie x1 slots where you can add in a wifi card

fathom frost
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ok, thanks

solar heart
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Does anyone know how i can max the performance of my cpu (without ooverclocking) Cause i figured out the problem with my PC, my cpu ryzen 3 1300x Is not working as good as its suppose to
Paired with my gtx 1050 ti (works perfectly)
I also have 8gb ram 2400mhz which MIGHT be the problem It is causing stuttering in games

celest flax
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Anybody looking to buy old Skylake hardware?

midnight pollen
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If you are thinking about selling we don’t do that here

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You can try r/hardwareswap

jagged bane
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what mother board should I get if i want to run a ryzen 9 3900x and a 2070 super gpu? Im thinking the ASUS TUF X570 but also want something future proof? suggestions?

tacit hemlock
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X570 boards are the most future proof your going to get rn

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That board should be fine

jagged bane
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forsure

worn plover
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just curious, but what is the best consumer ram out there?

naive pendant
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Asus TUF B450M-PRO GAMING Micro ATX AM4

3rd gen out the box?

daring patio
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@worn plover Corsair is good, but it is not so dependent on brand name as actual performance

worn plover
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ok

tacit hemlock
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@naive pendant yes

naive pendant
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@tacit hemlock thanks

tacit hemlock
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Good pick

naive pendant
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I know just waiting for ur time be delivered

tacit hemlock
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Wdym?

naive pendant
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It to be* delivered

tacit hemlock
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Oh

naive pendant
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Phone has predictive text issues

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Question since its dual m.2 can both be used at same time?

tacit hemlock
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Yes, however while both are in use the 5th and 6th sata ports are disabled

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The first 4 sata ports are still functional tho

naive pendant
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Oh its basically route detore.

naive pendant
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Can movies boot to bios without cou?

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Mobos*

midnight pollen
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No it needs a cpu to boot

autumn haven
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Is the 3600 and b450 mobo able to support quad channel

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I have t force 16 gb 3200 mhz and was looking to get another kit to have 32 go

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Gb

neat valve
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@midnight pollen

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will a b450m pro4 be fine with the 3400g, 16gb ddr4 3200, rx 570

deft phoenix
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I have no idea what kind of mobo im looking for for my 3950x can anyone help out?

supple monolith
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@deft phoenix
Just need an am4 socket. If you want to have upgrade options, buy a b450, x460, or x570... Or wait for the b550 series

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It terms of brands... It's your choice. Just get one with the features you want. You'll pay more for stuff like wifi, but you probably don't wanna buy the cheapest Mobo possible for a 3950x. I'd buy a higher end rig board for OC at that point

devout mothBOT
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pedro_bear34#9283 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

hollow thorn
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Overall budget matters

deft phoenix
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im not sure if i want to oc cuz i dont know how to and im scared if i do that ill mess it up

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i wont spend more than 400 on a mobo

hollow thorn
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Of course

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A good x570 Mobo is ~200 usually

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And if your budget doesn't allow for that, good B450 mobos are ~120

deft phoenix
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i can definitely do 200-375

hollow thorn
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Some boards that come to mind is Asus prime x570-p and x570 plus, both around the 200$ mark usually

deft phoenix
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i saw that the
Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero is like the most i should get

hollow thorn
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The highest end mobos are only really for looks

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Usually you'll spend like 200$ more for maybe 1 or 2 features

deft phoenix
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haha is it bad that the look of a mobo bothers me enough to buy something more expensive

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the asus prime seems good im mainly looking at 570 mobos with good ethernet ports

alpine light
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Entry level Gigabyte Aorus boards are always a pretty good option and are usually around what, $179?

deep vigil
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Yes

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@alpine light I have one works very nice

alpine light
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I wanted one and had to settle for a budget board or my new build never would have happened.

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I look at my PC with regret every single day.

midnight pollen
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@neat valve it doesn’t have on board WiFi but if that’s not a problem for you it seems fine, I’m not sure how pricing is it’s hard to look up on my phone as I will not be home for a few days

tall relic
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anyone here know how to fix a bios problem

mild canyon
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🍕

last token
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hey guys. i bought an amd ryzen 3900x, im trying to find a compatible motherboard thats in stock, any suggestions?

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i cannot find a single board in stock, under 400$

zealous flint
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When are Intel 10 processors available?

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When are Intel 10 processors available?

split copper
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no

last token
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no?

zealous flint
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When are Intel 10 processors available? please answer the question

last token
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Is there a national shortage on motherboards currently?

zealous flint
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no

hollow thorn
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@last token Yea everythings going out of stock

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There are some in stock under 400, but horribly priced compared to usual

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@zealous flint no

split copper
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no

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this post was made by no gang

hollow thorn
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and endorsed by #R6Gang

split copper
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😳

finite elm
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Still waiting on the 3300x :(

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For my brother :(

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@last token are you in the us?

vapid mist
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Whos hyped for Ryzen XT?

hollow thorn
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not really

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looks like just a higher freq refresh

vapid mist
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Yeah, but that could be enough to make ryzen even more amazing when compare dto intel

ionic hamlet
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I wonder if that means if the constant lower prices we've been seeing on some 3rd gen Ryzens will become permanent with the XT releases

shy breach
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@ionic hamlet I hope so!

primal dawn
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Is 3600 MHz and 20 cas latency good?

last token
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I’m on the us, yes

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I bought a motherboard that has an x370 chipset but advertised as compatible with 3rd ryzen

shy breach
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@last token you should be fine then, hopefully it has the correct BIOS already flashed.

last token
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Hat kind of performance am I losing going with the 370 over the 450
Or 570

shy breach
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CPU performance should be pretty identicle, main difference is the board I/O

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Which X370?

hollow thorn
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@primal dawn no

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Cl16 is good

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cl20 is bad

last token
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ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero (WI-FI AC) AMD Ryzen AM4 DDR4 M.2 USB 3.1 ATX X370 Motherboard with onboard 802.11AC WIFI and AURA Sync RGB Lighting

shy breach
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I wouldn't say "bad," I'd say "not optimal"

mild jackal
shy breach
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@last token yeah, you'll get 100% of your CPUs performance out of that mobo, you just won't have as many (or as fast) PCIE lanes

last token
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I do mainly 3D modeling, rendering and CAM.

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I’m using an i7-7700 right now. Sometimes tool paths take hours to generate. Hoping to cut that down a lot

shy breach
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@last token do you need 2 x M.2 drives and 2 x PCIEx16 slots?

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because that's the main functional difference between X370 and X470

last token
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No, not necessarily. I’m just using an array of standard Ssd’s right now but I wouldn’t mind m.2

shy breach
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X370 has M.2

last token
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That’s good I was kind of worried I would bottleneck my cpu but going with a 2 generation old chipset

shy breach
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@last token nope, your CPU will run flat out, I would, however suggest updating your BIOS to the newest version even if it runs when you get it. Lots of stability fixes have been rolled out in several BIOS revisions

late dawn
charred venture
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might want to wait and check the specific model

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have it arrive first

late dawn
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meep Thank you.

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i will do this

charred venture
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^-^

weak hamlet
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either way it probably doesn't have good ram

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maybe 3000mhz

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which is typical with prebuilts

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you'll want a good kit of 3600mhz

charred venture
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would the a320 mobo

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support?

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just curious

weak hamlet
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good question

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I'm not sure

late dawn
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boX you mean it would say DDR4 3600 in the ram description

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?

weak hamlet
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no, I'm saying the ryzen 5 3600 needs high freq ram

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well, works better with.

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and I've never seen a prebuilt with anything over 3200mhz

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the information on that prebuilt is very ... lacking.

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you could always try and contact ABS and see.

late dawn
#

what limitations will i face if it has 3000mhz versus 3600mhz

weak hamlet
#

your limitations would be that mother board.

late dawn
#

i mean what would i be unable to do with the computer that i could do with the higher ram speed?

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i still have time to cancel the order and get something without this flaw if its a serious oversight on my part

weak hamlet
#

well it's not an oversight, it'll still run fine.

#

I'm probably just being picky.. but ryzen loves higher ram frequency 🙂

late dawn
#

im pretty technologically incompetent and im not looking for a super high-end gaming experience

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but also, i dont want to have to upgrade something at the cost of 30% of the tower

weak hamlet
#

then it should be fine just how it is for you

late dawn
#

thank you and may god bless you and your family and even your neighbors if you like some of them

vast slate
#

Should I go for the 10th gen i5/i7 or go with a 9th gen i5/i7?

gritty patio
#

lets gooo we pre-ordering the 3300x

charred venture
#

just pay 30-40$ for a single stick of 8 gig

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@vast slate AMD

hollow thorn
#

or 65 for 2 sticks of 8gig 3200mhzcl16

charred venture
#

it already comes with a kit of 8 gig

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idk maybe its 2 slots

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bruh i wish prebuilts listed specs better

hollow thorn
#

they gotta scam money from you somehow

charred venture
#

at least tell me the motherboard lmao

hollow thorn
#

they never do

charred venture
#

bruh

vast slate
#

I’m going Intel meru_shy

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I like blue

charred venture
#

ok then 9th gen

vast slate
#

...and single thread speed is top priority for the things I do

charred venture
#

gaming?

vast slate
#

For the ones I do

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They’re older usually

charred venture
#

ah

vast slate
#

So they’re not usually well optimized for multithreaded stuff

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Which while amd isn’t super bad it, Intel is just... better at single thread

split copper
#

My board has literally no documentation available on the internet

#

Scarce crap

vast slate
#

My fav game is from like 2010

split copper
#

Mine's from 2005

hazy token
#

can you overclock i5 10400? it’s non f

main pulsar
#

is it an i5 10400k?

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well, there is no 10400k

#

so no, you cant oc that cpu

midnight pollen
#

With intel k means unlocked(can be overclocked) and f means it has no integrated graphics

hazy token
#

@midnight pollen it has no letter????

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And it has integrated graphics

midnight pollen
#

No letter would mean it is locked and has integrated graphics on board

hazy token
#

Okay that’s fine

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Thanks

midnight pollen
#

Np

primal dawn
#

could I overclock 20cl to 16 cl?

midnight pollen
#

Tightening the timings on memory is a thing, I would say check the pinned messages in #overclocking there might be a guide somewhere there

primal dawn
#

thanks

long geyser
#

@vast slate and does that extra 5% perf that you'll barely notice really worth the extra $150+?

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while also making upgrading more expensive as well

vast slate
#

I like the color blue

#

...and the i5 9th gen is not even 200$, is amd really 50$?

deep vigil
#

what?

long geyser
#

10400 gets on par with 1600AF/3300x

#

an $85/$120 CPU respectively

vast slate
#

I’m happy enough with what Intel has

long geyser
#

If 10600k, can get a fair bit more on perf with OC on CPU/cache

deep vigil
#

The gaming performance of the 10400f is as good as a 3600

long geyser
#

which isnt much higher then 1600AF/3300x

vast slate
#

And depending on the cost (and how much I have saved by that point) I’ll go for the 10700

long geyser
#

do you have a high end GPU, large SSD, great RAM, etc?

vast slate
#

10700(k)? I don’t have the 10th gen memorized

deep vigil
#

yes

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@vast slate whats your build

vast slate
#

And that is the plan

deep vigil
#

and budget

vast slate
#

Uh

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2000-3000

deep vigil
#

ok wiat

#

wait

#

2k-3k

vast slate
#

Mhm

deep vigil
#

whats the goal of the build

vast slate
#

Passion project at this point

deep vigil
#

pk

#

ok

vast slate
#

Was gonna be a thing I build with my bf but he broke up with me so now it’s just because I’ve been wanting to build one for years

long geyser
#

F

vast slate
#

Yeah...

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Still it was nice year and half

deep vigil
#

you could get a 2080ti for 3k and 3900x

vast slate
#

And the big price gap is because I can’t decide if I wanna wait another few months or not

deep vigil
#

you should

vast slate
#

Well few months extra

#

I’m sticking with Intel...

deep vigil
#

why

#

Intel is not worth it

#

unless you do soley gaming

long geyser
#

plus it seems like PCIe gen4 isnt there on Intel yet

hollow thorn
#

best buy

#

being crappy

long geyser
#

still in stock

hollow thorn
#

not on my end

long geyser
#

oh yee, only checked PSU

hollow thorn
#

PSU too

long geyser
#

nani the heck?

deep vigil
#

ye out of stock

long geyser
#

literally just checked PSU 10 mins ago

hollow thorn
#

lol

midnight pollen
#

I’m still waiting for my mic arm at Best Buy peepoSadSip

tacit hemlock
#

Best buy is super weird with stock

hollow thorn
#

thats why I turned best buy off in preferences >:D

midnight pollen
#

It’s been like 4 months out of stock

tacit hemlock
#

Lol

midnight pollen
#

But I have gift card

rich sphinx
#

I’m still waiting for my mic arm at Best Buy peepoSadSip
@midnight pollen Best Buy has been slacking on the PC components and accessories

midnight pollen
#

If I didn’t have gift card I would’ve bought it somewhere else already

tulip talon
#

Best under 100 cpu rn?

#

any ideas

#

I will use used just don’t have the 1600 af out rn

deep vigil
#

@tulip talon do you need a gpu or not?

tulip talon
#

Yeaaa

deep vigil
#

so you need igpu?

tulip talon
#

Thinkin 580 used

deep vigil
#

ok nvm

tulip talon
#

Nope

deep vigil
#

so

#

3100

tulip talon
#

Yea no apu

#

I don’t wanna waitttt

deep vigil
#

I comes out in 2 weeks

tulip talon
#

I’m lazy but it’s one the best choices

#

I mean imma get one preordered and build one with a 9100f for now

deft phoenix
#

getting a b550 mobo is my only chance at not getting an overpriced out of stock mobo isnt it?

gritty patio
#

Most likely

#

I had to buy mine used

#

But it was like $108

#

The only problem with uses is that it doesn't come with the manufacturer warranty

vapid mist
#

@rocky edge here

rocky edge
#

@vapid mist thank you.

#

Olo has some pretty good pricing on ram. And Newegg has a good deal today. Is ram price going down, or should I buy?

gleaming fog
#

Ordered the MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC on amazon. Was sent the B450 tomahawk max instead. Now the carbon is out of stock. Is it worth keeping this motherboard? Or disputing and chancing not being able to get a good mobo for a while?

hollow thorn
#

the heck

#

@gleaming fog dispute it for sure

#

those are completely different boards

#

tomahawk max is a board worth like 120$, carbon ac 160$

gleaming fog
#

The sad part is that it was on sale for $142... now I'll have to pay full price @hollow thorn

hollow thorn
#

Well, you paid 140 for a 120$ board right now

#

So paying full price would be a step up

gleaming fog
#

True

#

Looking at the box. They attacked the wrong sticker to it. They have the Carbon's sticker on it

#

*attached

hollow thorn
#

Weird

#

Disbute for sure, they mightve tried to scam you

gleaming fog
#

Its dumb cause now that mobo is unavailable anywhere

#

So basically I cant build my pc anytime soon

hollow thorn
#

Pro carbon ac max was in stock or on pre-order I think

gleaming fog
#

Where? @hollow thorn

#

Oh "max"

#

Still where did you see thst?

hollow thorn
#

eh

#

a long-ish preorder but still

chrome goblet
#

hi, im working on building a pc for a friend, and i have an old never used intel i5-7400, would that future proof him if he ever needed to upgrade the cpu down the line or would he need a new motherboard too?

hollow thorn
#

intel 7400..?

chrome goblet
#

i5-7400

#

yeah he has a lower budget but i thought it would be good to start him off

hollow thorn
#

eh

gritty patio
#

well i mean ur building it but hes paying you right? @chrome goblet

chrome goblet
#

yeah lol

gritty patio
#

if its free then yeah, but if its not then no

chrome goblet
#

yeah its free

#

im just trying to future proof him

#

but if i go with that cpu idk if hell have to upgrade other parts when he decides too upgrade too

naive pendant
#

Well look what came today. This was ordered on the 6th

#

Wont get my mobo till June 12 😪

daring patio
#

Waiting for the last part is pain @naive pendant

#

Im waiting on my RAM and SSD arriving tmr

hollow thorn
#

MS30 is wacky....

#

I dunno

#

maybe you'll have better luck

daring patio
#

Pog

naive pendant
#

So I've been told but that's just a start for me

daring patio
#

@hollow thorn You heard the b550 tomahawk? Probably no reason to buy it tho

#

The msi lineup

hollow thorn
#

nah

#

x570 tomahawk gonna be good tho

daring patio
hollow thorn
#

meh

daring patio
#

No reason to buy it except for pcie 4.0

hollow thorn
#

we'll see

daring patio
#

yea

naive pendant
#

Anyone know the Intel equal to AMD R5 3600

hollow thorn
#

why tho

naive pendant
#

People keep telling me to get Intel instead of AMD to pair with Nvidia

hollow thorn
#

lol wut

#

I have AMD and Nvidia

#

no problems

#

10600k is basically equivalent, at 100$ more expensive for the CPU and 100$ more expensive for the mobo

#

AMD makes so much more sense right now due to pricing

naive pendant
#

Roger that thank you 🙏 ...

midnight pollen
#

Matching brands like that doesn’t really mean anything, amd and nvidia work great

mild canyon
#

Soon MSI will take over and shutdown other computer chip companies!

quaint current
#

🤨

hollow thorn
#

lol

naive pendant
#

MSI sucks too hard to ever accomplish that.

hollow thorn
#

wdym

#

@naive pendant MSI is great

naive pendant
#

lol

#

Seen more failures from them than any other company.

hollow thorn
#

really?

#

seen none in my experience so far

naive pendant
#

Yup

hollow thorn
#

pretty satisfied with their products

naive pendant
#

A lot of customers used to request them. After a few years I refused to offer them anymore.

#

Mid-tier at best.

long geyser
#

but how many customers went with them? Cant just go off raw numbers, need percentages

naive pendant
#

At least 100.

mild jackal
#

Model > brand

long geyser
#

also your wording makes it sound like this is older information that you're basing this off of

naive pendant
#

When it came to MSI it was just a lot of sudden failures. It was about 4 years ago when I stopped offering them.

long geyser
#

Was it a specific model, product, etc?

#

only the low end stuff?

naive pendant
#

Not really. And I never sold low end.

long geyser
#

Cuz I do know low end EVGA PSUs are hilariously bad

naive pendant
#

That's one company I never got into.

long geyser
#

Anyways, only major failure that happened to EVGA in the past few years is their 1080/1080Ti ball of flame

#

That I can recall

naive pendant
#

I was talking about MSI.

mild jackal
#

ExplodingVGA

long geyser
#

brain.exe has stopped working

naive pendant
#

1080Ti flame broiler?

long geyser
#

I think it was SC or FTW

#

VRMs or mem caught fire

#

no thermal pads or smth

tacit hemlock
#

Yikes

naive pendant
#

I had a guy go in a pull the whole cooler off a GPU once, than try to say it was my fault.

long geyser
#

what?...

#

but how?

naive pendant
#

Why was the better question.

mild jackal
#

Was bad capacitors on some EVGA batch that went boom.

1080/moreso the 1080 ti FE simply had a crap vrm relative to Turing.

#

(Lot of those mods still work on current gen tbh)

long geyser
#

GPUs obv perf better without a cooler. Must've been why they did that

naive pendant
#

This guy was a bit strange to begin with, so i can't say I was surprised. He seemed to think all the metal was making it hotter.

#

I was like yup, and your skull seems to have baked your brain.

long geyser
#

Well.... He tried

naive pendant
#

He didn't like it when I told him he had no warranty anymore.

#

Sadly customers with a lot of money to spend on high end gaming rigs, don't always have brains to go with them.

long geyser
#

see a fair amount of people do that. Spend a bunch on money on something that they have zero understanding of

hollow thorn
#

@long geyser so anyways, I don't know of any major MSI failures other than x570 with the hot VRMs

long geyser
#

I mean, MSI messed up BIOS when Zen2 released

hollow thorn
#

?

#

I don't mind the stripped down bios

#

(not an issue afaik)

long geyser
#

nah, BSODs, no post, etc

hollow thorn
#

Huh

long geyser
#

first beta revisions for Zen2 was bad on MSI

hollow thorn
#

Must've been pretty early on

#

Oh the beta revisions

long geyser
#

happened for like a month or smth

hollow thorn
#

Yea

#

I updated my bios on my b450 fairly early so I could get my current CPU, but didn't have any issues

finite elm
#

What about Asrock? 🥺

charred venture
#

ive got asrock b450 pro and its fine

alpine light
#

I spit at my Asrock z390 Phantom Gaming 4s every day before I leave the house for work.

grim grove
#

hi guys, now I’m getting stutters randomly when I’m walking and when it comes into intense game fights / shooting it stutters like mad and it takes 4 seconds for my game to get normal? any help? it’s impacting me a lot

#

Please pm me

alpine light
#

That's not a lot of info to go on.

deep vigil
#

@grim grove could you possibly do a benchmark to see when these sutters occur to see this a problem with one of the cores in the cpu or maybe you dont have enough ram

#

Either way monitoring your pc during a bench mark cam be a good way to troubleshoot which part is acting funny

split copper
#

I was wondering if having four sticks of 2GB DDR3 1600 would be better than two sticks of 4GB DDR3 1333

#

idk

#

my brother's old computer has that four stick setup and I want to try and max it out at 16GB

#

I just have 2x4 1333s atm though

#

and not even sure if the 1600s are running at 1600 as the board doesn't seem to officially support that speed, though it can be used as memory overclock

split copper
#

I have an A8-7600 that needs a buddy

naive pendant
#

K just broke my motherboard

#

I don’t think it’ll work I dropped the screw driver on the cpu pins

devout mothBOT
#
Joee#4652 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

worn plover
#

OOO

tacit hemlock
#

Send a picture @naive pendant

#

Oh wait your not level 3 yet

#

You can dm me it and I'll post it if you want

vapid mist
#

Anybody got any good ideas for some RAM?

#

I wanna buy my RAM before the rest of my PC

#

Please help if you can

hollow thorn
#

They want 64gb 3600mhz cl16 ram with RGB preferably at <320$

vapid mist
#

Thank you, I already found the RAM I am getting... Butindont know how RGB works so if anybody can help me with that I would be very appreciative

warped scroll
#

You just gotta download the rgb software for your motherboard

vapid mist
#

So that means I need an RGB motherboard?

#

Or are they all?

warped scroll
#

What brand mobo do you have

#

What’s your motherboard model too

vapid mist
#

I don't know, I need to build my PC for RGB

#

Pretty sure the Asus TUF line doesn't have RGB

warped scroll
#

It should

#

Most motherboards support RGB

#

So all you gotta do is download Asus’ rgb software when you’re on the PC and then you can control the ram colors and stuff

vapid mist
#

Ahhhh, and how would I sync that with the fans and AIO?

warped scroll
#

If you plug the fans into the ARGB header on the motherboard and then you can change it in the software easy peasy

jaunty sonnet
#

Hi folks, can someone point me to some information regard the Ryzen situation and what mother boards to get. I am a life long Intel guy but...i cant deny the Ryzen CPUs any longer so i need to make the jump but i feel i am way over my head when it comes to AMD and its technology. I am utterly confused on what processor is coming out and what motherboard works with what without having to do some bios hack for backwards compatibility. Or do i wait a few months for everything to be matched up and the new AMD cpus come out.. any help would be greatly appreciated. P.S. if it sound like i don't know what i am talking about its because.. i really don't!.. i need help!

charred venture
#

wait a lil bit

#

for 4th gen

#

and for backwards compatibility

#

x570

#

or b550

hollow thorn
#

B450 is fine lol

tender flint
#

I asked around on here, and on Reddit which motherboard I should get for my 3700x, and was told to go x570.

#

I have the option of getting a B450 now and saving $100 over the x570 board that I have pre-ordered.

#

I don't plan on upgrading my CPU in the next 3 years.

#

Should I pivot and get a B450 instead?

#

In that same vein, I could get the MSI B450 I, or the Gigabyte one. Which one is the better of the two for my build?

#

@hollow thorn I remember that you shared your build earlier, which has the MSI one. Did you run into any issues?

hollow thorn
#

uhh what

#

B450 boards are mostly out of stock only decent one rn is B450 Aorus M iirc

hollow thorn
#

It isn't the max one so I'd rather not

#

and way overpriced

tender flint
#

the max one?

#

there are versions of the same ITX board?

hollow thorn
#

yes and also it's jusut overpriced

#

thats a 80$ board

tender flint
#

Can you show a link to a B450 ITX Max board? I can't seem to find one.

hollow thorn
#

huh they never made a itx max board I guess

#

they made max everything else

#

better board

tender flint
#

Yeah it was either the gigabyte or the msi one.

#

you think it's worth going with this over waiting for my preorder of the Gigabyte x570 I board to be fulfilled?

hollow thorn
#

I mean

tender flint
#

I don't have any pcie 4.0 components

#

yet

#

I am just worried about bios issues, and overheating because I hear a lot about VRMs

#

And maybe future upgradability in 3 years

hollow thorn
#

only mobo with vrm issues is low end MSI x570

#

x570 is just nice to have

#

if you can buy better stuff with the 100$ you save there, do it

#

if you cant

#

why not have a good board

tender flint
#

Right now the biggest reason to switch to B450 is availibility

#

I don't know when my x570 board order will be fulfilled. I do know that this B450 board is in stock now though.

#

Do you have any insight on how many x570 boards are being moved now?

hollow thorn
#

so I would base it off of that

tender flint
#

The site I ordered off of (BLT) initially said May 19th, and now 30th.

#

I would like to wait till the 30th to see if they do restock

hollow thorn
#

I would say jun 16 is prob it, if it doesn't start shipping on the 30th

tender flint
#

okay. It's a bit later than I would like. They say good things come to those who wait, but I was trying to get the build done before the end of the month.

#

Is overclocking the 3700x safe on the Gigabyte B450 board?

#

I can think of going with a better cpu cooler with the $100

hollow thorn
#

Eh it should be alright

deep vigil
#

@tender flint what that build with a rmx 1k watt?

#

also whyare you using an intel cpu

grim grove
#

Anyone know how to fix coolermaster cpu cooler loud noise? holy shii its annoying lmao

supple monolith
#

Air or AIO?

tender flint
daring patio
#

I cant even afford

#

I got a ~700 build

crude path
#

so do the 700$ build and build off of it in the future

daring patio
#

Yeah

crude path
#

technically speaking my current pc is still my first pc

daring patio
#

thats what im hoping for

crude path
#

but none of it is left 😛

daring patio
#

not even case?

crude path
#

nope

#

i started with a basic HP that luckily wasn't locked down (Which is rare for HP apparently)

#

and i got it back in 2008

#

until a few months ago all that was left was the disk drive, and i ended up getting a new case that didnt have a disk drive slot

#

so now, none is left

daring patio
#

Computer technology refeshes fast

#

3 years later, my current computer is probably obsolete

crude path
#

pcs are usually good for about 5 years in their class, and even if they go obselete theyre not like unusable

#

like you can still game on a 5 or even 10 year old pc, just not as well as the latest can cause games require more power

coarse shuttle
#

...is this legit? Its gotta be fake right?

crude path
#

very fake

coarse shuttle
#

theyre selling a 2990WX for $54

#

they have a 30 day return policy

crude path
#

theres a lot of sites like that that literally only steal your card info

coarse shuttle
#

someone buy it

crude path
#

some wont even let you get to the confirmation page

#

no

coarse shuttle
#

lol

crude path
#

in fact you should delete that

coarse shuttle
#

yeah ok.

rich sphinx
#

I can't even find that website's company wiki

#

They don't have any social media whatsoever. They're apparently based in Omaha

crude path
#

yeah sites like that are common

#

if it seems to good to be true, it probably is

#

do not fall for scams

coarse shuttle
#

I gave them just an email. lets see what kind of emails I get

crude path
#

please only buy from reputable sources

#

lol

coarse shuttle
#

yeah definitely a scam

#

no https

#

weird

rich sphinx
#

They still have a certificate though. Weird

vapid mist
#

Good motherboards for RGB with a black color scheme and ryzen 3rd gen (for now)?

gritty patio
#

lmao none are in stock

#

but like a tomahawk max

#

mm

hollow thorn
#

Ignoring stock:

gritty patio
#

asrock steel legend?

hollow thorn
#

All black, MSI x570 Unify

#

Black with RGB, ASRock phantom gaming X

#

@vapid mist Is that the kinda look you're going for?

vapid mist
#

I don't need stock for now, it's a build for the future ^^

hollow thorn
#

Merpysergy

#

Huh

vapid mist
#

I just realllyyy enjoy the planning phase and i wanna get it hella ironed out

#

I'll take a look

hollow thorn
#

Lol you're gonna be just like me

#

Planning lists out for everyone

vapid mist
#

Yeah lmao

#

I love it >:3

hollow thorn
#

Join the dark side

#

For fun

gritty patio
#

hehe

#

im here :))

vapid mist
#

Ok, looking at the mobos reccomended

hollow thorn
#

One day I'd love to get a job where I get paid for this kinda stuff

gritty patio
#

lets start a website

#

sum for the people

#

posting steals every day

vapid mist
#

Ok, so I do have a price range haha

#

And the only referenced is the x570 is out of it lmao

hollow thorn
#

Well scythe unify is usually 300$ and phantom gaming x usually 250 ish

vapid mist
#

I really like the board, but the price 😬

hollow thorn
#

It's the ultra high end

#

But damn does it look good

gritty patio
#

yeah they're sexy

vapid mist
#

What are the benefits of the ultra high end?

gritty patio
#

longevity

mild jackal
#

flex

gritty patio
#

and pcie 4.0

#

more slots maybe

#

and the flex

hollow thorn
#

It's just flex

vapid mist
#

Fair lol

hollow thorn
#

X570 phantom gaming 4 might be good at usually 140$

vapid mist
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Ok, what else is there for more reasonable prices?

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Ok, gonna look at that

hollow thorn
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Going for the reasonable x570

rich sphinx
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X570 phantom gaming 4 might be good at usually 140$
@hollow thorn This was the exact one I got

hollow thorn
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Ye

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Unify is a sexy board tho

untold ivy
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yep

rich sphinx
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The price isn't though

untold ivy
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I just did a build with the Unify I am loving it

vapid mist
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Oh, I love the look of the gaming 4, but only 2 slots 😬

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I'll figure something out haha

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Thanks for the help guys ^^

hollow thorn
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The only time it made sense in a build Hei made me change it to a more reasonably priced option :(

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What if I wanted them to spend 100$ more for that sexy Mobo

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It's so good looking

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Good VRM

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All dem m.2 slots

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Wifi

vapid mist
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This build is just getting soooo expensive cri

hollow thorn
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@vapid mist but it's gonna be so good :DDD

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@untold ivy do post it in #build-pics once you're done :D

untold ivy
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ok I need to take some pics but I can't get off of it

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lol

hollow thorn
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I just really like that motherboard lol

vapid mist
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This is so much price for my age

Vibrates in hype and fear

hollow thorn
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Smexy

vapid mist
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I am scare. Big scare

untold ivy
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I had a hard time choosing and I am glad I got it

hollow thorn
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@vapid mist everything so high price for my age but

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Parent funding

vapid mist
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Lmao, I'm not getting help from my parents

hollow thorn
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I need to start making my own money

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Yea I gotta become more independent

vapid mist
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I am using my own money to build this PC

hollow thorn
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This is my tech support job practice :D

rich sphinx
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I'm gonna give you the best survey response I have ever written

daring patio
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My ram and ssd is suppose to arrive today according to ups but it’s still not here :(
It’s 10pm for me

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I wanted to build today

hollow thorn
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Aww

vapid mist
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Can I get a student discount on top 1% PC hardware? Lmao

hollow thorn
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Tomorrow :D

rich sphinx
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I've found that shipping dates have been incorrect frequently recently

hollow thorn
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Yes sir here is a 2080ti at 300$

untold ivy
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shipping is pretty inconsistent right now

hollow thorn
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Corona being Corona

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:p

vapid mist
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I need savings on my RAM Mobo and CPU

daring patio
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Before, it says 9:00 pm always, but it always arrive early

vapid mist
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Like microcenter.... But I am buying my parts one at a time

Big cri

rich sphinx
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Got expedited shipping on a hard drive to replace my dead internal Xbox One hard drive, and it still isn't here

daring patio
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:P to corona

rich sphinx
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It moved 35 miles in four days according to the shipping info

vapid mist
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gags in console hater

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Haha, jk

daring patio
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Pcmr gang rise up

vapid mist
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Oh hell yeah

hollow thorn
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Dats me

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Never owned a console :D

vapid mist
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Though, u don't do that much PC gaming anymore haha

rich sphinx
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If I didn't have this PC, I'd have nothing rn

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Never owned a console :D
@hollow thorn Never?!

hollow thorn
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Never

rich sphinx
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That's insane

daring patio
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Same

vapid mist
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Only one I ever had was a Wii and it was my mom's really lol

hollow thorn
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I went from Windows XP laptop to iGPU 8gb ram laptop to my current build

daring patio
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Oh wait my Wii

hollow thorn
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No consoles

daring patio
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Oof

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The worst thing is it’s literally in my city

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Just lingering there...

vapid mist
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I am torn.... I really wanna get a 3960x now

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But like... Where do I draw the line? Lmaooo

hollow thorn
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Nah

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3960x and stuff sacrifice clocks and therefore single thread performance

vapid mist
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True

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The 3950x is the best single core... That seems like the best deal for the combination of things I do

hollow thorn
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Mhm

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I like it

vapid mist
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Though, it would still be an upgrade of my current CPU lol

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Well, best single core for now, the 3900xt is supposed to be a weeee bit faster

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Guys!

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Why does CPU monkey have results for the new XT line up???

hollow thorn
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No idea

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I slep

vapid mist
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But like...

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They are showing the XT better than i9

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10900k

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They have tests... I'm so confused

lofty cobalt
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ok @mild jackal do u still have any of those links

vapid mist
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Only a select few have them tested

mild jackal
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?

lofty cobalt
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for the server stuff

vapid mist
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Yeah, for cinnebench

mild jackal
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What's your goal here?

vapid mist
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Me?

mild jackal
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i.e. what kind of server you trying to build?

vapid mist
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I am so confused

mild jackal
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dark

vapid mist
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I am confused because why is the new RYZEN refresh already posting results???

lofty cobalt
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ye im just gonna pm u

vapid mist
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That's not for a while longer, no?

lofty cobalt
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ingame i need a min

ionic hamlet
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Maybe the Ryzen refresh is releasing next month alongside the b550 boards? (Or somebody screwed up and posted the results too early)

vapid mist
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I have no idea, but they are right here lmao

alpine light
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Last console I owned was a Gamecube.

rich sphinx
naive pendant
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I just bought two sticks of ram

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and I keep getting BSOD

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I updated drivers

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everything is clocked properly

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what do I do

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did the /clear ram thingy

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it's vengeance RGB Corsair PRO

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several kinds of BSOD's also

boreal cargo
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Run mem test 86 and maybe reseat ram

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Make sure no debris is in slot or on pins if you reseat

ionic hamlet
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Huh. Searching online, seems to be rumors pointing that AMD is going to release those new third gen Ryzen XT CPUs next month along with the b550 boards. Which would make sense with the CPU benchmarks starting to come out already.

midnight pollen
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Make sure the ram sticks are in the right spots and seated properly

finite elm
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People thought the 3100 and 3300x would be out 6 days ago and they were wrong :( so I'd rather not listen to rumors.

rocky edge
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Does the x399 Mobo support threadripper 3rd gen?

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Or is trx40 your only option?

midnight pollen
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yeah trx40

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some x399 are different socket

rocky edge
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Geez, those TRX40 are so pricey...