cpus-mobo-and-memory

[gritty patio]

jesus

[sharp cairn]

USB*

[gritty patio]

anything sounds better than that lmao

[sharp cairn]

I'm thinking 350 bucks is not a bad wage

Basically the cost of the new monitor I'm going to be getting anyway

[gritty patio]

so you gonna get the b450 then?

[sharp cairn]

Not to mention more 550s will be made

I think I am

Whatever happened to TigerDirect

[gritty patio]

if you do i'll prolly do that too

no clue

[sharp cairn]

I think I'm going to do that

[gritty patio]

W

b450 W

if i could find any in stock lmao

[gritty patio]

@sharp cairn are you finding any mb?

[sharp cairn]

im looking at a b450 AORUS PRO Wifi now

but one is 10 dollars more than the other and I can't find a difference

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FW85VFT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07GPDJ9R6?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

is the RGB the difference?

they're the same thing!

[quaint current]

the first is from amd, second is by gigabyte same board different vendors

[sharp cairn]

nice

MSRP

:3

right?

good yee, Nuclear

eye '

[quaint current]

yea

get the cheaper one

[sharp cairn]

yep!

Also should i get corsair LPX or Gskill Ripjaw

[quaint current]

for a 3600/x?

[sharp cairn]

yeah

r5 3600x

I think i get 3200 DDR4

[gritty patio]

its not available until june tho

might as well wait the 13 days until b500 at that point lmao

[quaint current]

i'd probably just get the cheapest decent kit of 3200mhz cl16

[gritty patio]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-M-AM4-AMD-B450-SATA-6Gb-s-Micro-ATX-AMD-Motherboard/292734274020?epid=10022600348&hash=item44285289e4:g:RX4AAOSw7k9d5kcf

also

the same mb just micro instead of mini and cheaper

also sold by newegg

[quaint current]

that doesnt have wifi tho, idk if thats needed

[gritty patio]

buying a wifi card is prolly still cheaper

[sharp cairn]

in june, it'll be sold out, and the others will

[quaint current]

i'd wait on the ram+mobo choice until b550 prices are announced (if they're cheap i'd get a 3600cl16 kit instead)

[sharp cairn]

ehh. i don't really have the money/time for that.

b450 will be fine.

[quaint current]

also does it have to be through amazon or no

[sharp cairn]

naw.

but i did just get prime for 30 lollll

the ram is less expensive on Newegg, everything else is less expensive and in stock/pre order because not sold out

on amazon

[quaint current]

also do you need wifi in the mobo and does it need to be itx

[sharp cairn]

the case is atx.

wifi would be nice, but my PC is hardwired, but if i ever chose to make it just wifi, that would be handy.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X9srCL

this is what i have now

i needed to swap out the 3600 DDR4 for 3200

chose t his

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p6RFf7/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16

[quaint current]

i dont know good b450 mobo's with them being sold out rn, but i changed the psu+ram for a little cheaper parts, id ask @long geyser for a mobo suggestion https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qnk3Xv

also whats up with the cd writer, do you need one? (havent seen those in a build in forever lol)

[sharp cairn]

just for disc reading should i ever choose to do it.

I don't need a writer, you're right

[long geyser]

added mobo and redid RAM for better specs
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LC2GMc

[sharp cairn]

nice. but ryzen 5 3600x. i'll fix that up

[quaint current]

the 3600x doesnt really have large benefits/performance improvements compared to the 3600, i'd go with the 3600 and save $15-20

[sharp cairn]

and a 2060s vs a 2070s GPU?

will the 2060 still pop 1440 at 60-100fps?

[quaint current]

yeah, my 1070 ti is pretty close to 2060 performance and is pretty smooth 60+ fps on high/ultra for the games i play

[sharp cairn]

nice

rtx too

[quaint current]

yuh

[sharp cairn]

time ta fix dat up

good good?

I have prime so no shipping on that ram

so it's only l.ike $1 more expensive than the amazon one

less*

[quaint current]

i'd throw the atx version of the mobo in for $10 more, you get the benefits of atx compared to itx such as more pcie lanes and support https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450-aorus-pro-wifi/p/N82E16813145082?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FW85VFT?

[sharp cairn]

thank you

sorry was afk at the store

Candy run -- M&M's, ice cream, cherry coke, doritos

[sharp cairn]

Hmm. I'll have to see if Newegg has everything in stock. That's a great board for $50 on Newegg than Amazon

oooh!

RYZEN 5 3600x is 20% off for 2 hours

save $40

[full folio]

Not exactly sure what channel to ask this in. I built a system with the AsRock B450M Steel Legend back at the first of the year. And it's running great, but the other day the RGB controller stopped recognizing my ram. I'm not living with Unicorn Vomit or anything, it's just stuck on the same color just at max brightness. But I can't adjust it down in Windows using the(really bad) RGB software or in BIOS. I've reinstalled the software a couple times. I can live with it like it is, but I'd like to fix it if I can. Any ideas?

[deep vigil]

@full folio tried reseating your ram?

[full folio]

i will in the morning

it's just weird that it worked fine for 4 months

[gritty patio]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07XPZMKQ6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

what yall think of this?

idk the difference between this and the tomahawk max but i think its the about the same just not as sexy

maybe just the vrm cooling?

[teal sundial]

How if any way is intel better than amd

[midnight pollen]

mostly just gaming

intel has better single threaded performance

[teal sundial]

So amd is better for streaming

[midnight pollen]

yes, but if you are streaming i would get a nvidia gpu and use their nvenc encoder

[teal sundial]

I’m getting a 2060 and what’s a nvenc encoder

[midnight pollen]

there are different types of encoders that process the video on stream or recording. there is a software one that uses cpu and looks best but is very intensive and will lag game usually.
Then there is hardware encoders that use the gpu, they are less intensive and still look very good. currently nvidia's nvenc encoder is best hardware encoder https://i.imgur.com/l3MQJv7.png

[teal sundial]

Oh ok

So when my PC is finish and I turn it on how do Ik what encoder I’m using

[midnight pollen]

in the app you use to stream there is an option. that above is a screenshot of the output settings for Streamlabs OBS

[teal sundial]

So y do like big streamers use intel instead of amd does intel give u more FPS or something

[midnight pollen]

most streamers i've seen have been moving to amd, but many big streamers use dual pc setups. so one pc that plays game and the other that captures the others screen and uses software encoder for best result

with amd you just get more for your money

[teal sundial]

Do you reccomend intel or amd to a big streamer

[midnight pollen]

Well i would recommend amd to anyone rn, but for a big streamer that can afford any pc, maybe one intel gaming pc and one amd streaming pc for dual setup

[long geyser]

You'd want a 2.5k budget before going Intel rn

[midnight pollen]

lol

[long geyser]

because only Intel option that kinda makes sense is 9900k+2080Ti

[teal sundial]

Ok

[long geyser]

and that is only "kinda"

[teal sundial]

I ask people that have a ryzen5 3600 like me and 2060 what FPS they get and it’s way better than what the benchmarks tell me

[midnight pollen]

this is just random chart i found

intel just slightly better but still cost a lot more money

then more non gaming things

[earnest bronze]

Could someone put together me a good gaming computer build sheet I have around 1500 dollars to build one I already have a Nividea 2070 video card

[midnight pollen]

maybe ask in #building-and-recc-chat usually someone lurking there

[prisma spoke]

Will the 1600 af go back to $85 again

[hollow thorn]

likely not

[gritty patio]

Lmao nah

Just get a 3300X imo

[brazen cradle]

@hollow thorn yo should I buy the 3700x now while it’s 279 or wait for it to drop even more , if it does

It’s a gamble

So idk 😐

[hollow thorn]

it's not gonna drop lower unless you go microcenter or you want like 6 months

[brazen cradle]

Lol I’ll pass

Well I wish I could use micro center

[naive pendant]

I've never even seen one

[brazen cradle]

But they don’t ship , well at least for there good deals

[quaint current]

even microcenter has it for more iirc

nvm its 10 less there, but still 279 is a great deal

[brazen cradle]

Ok thank you

[brazen cradle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

How fast is this for the price ? Is it good ram ?

[hollow thorn]

yes

[naive pendant]

Do you need specific drivers for a Mobo?

[midnight pollen]

mobo uses bios and 99% of the time already has, you can update when you get. I usually only update bios if there is a problem

[naive pendant]

I remember back having to install every little thing. So glad that's not usually a thing anymore.

[devout moth]

Dodd#4110 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[plucky mantle]

Hey, I just got a colorful x570 mobo. support from manu. is terrible. No video ouput, but iit seems to power up okay. one short beep. known-good cpu/ram/psu

[deep vigil]

@plucky mantle did you plug in the hdmi cable to the mobo or gpu

since you have ryzen you and an x570 board you mostlikey have a cpu with a igpu

so make sure the gpu is the output

[plucky mantle]

I've not gpt the gpu installed, I'm connected to the moniter via on-baord hdmi

and I just tested the monitor for good measure.

[deep vigil]

what cpu do you have

[plucky mantle]

There are four led's that look like diagnostics, all four are lit red

3900x

[deep vigil]

well then you need gpu

[plucky mantle]

Ah

[deep vigil]

3900x has no igpu as I said above

[plucky mantle]

onboard video won't work?

ah

okay

I tested with a 3700x, same thing?

[deep vigil]

yes

[plucky mantle]

okay, I'll test that right now

[deep vigil]

you need a gpu for video output

for most ryzen chips that are not the g series

[plucky mantle]

Okay, progress, The screen says "please power down and connect the pcie power cables for this graphics card"

and that's all

but the power is already connected

Maybe I need to get my vmm and check the voltages

[crude path]

you can also double check the connection, make sure its plugged in all the way

[plucky mantle]

I'll do that.

[crude path]

also make sure you are not trying to use cpu cords to power the gpu.

they look similar but are different

[plucky mantle]

my psu has the cords labelled pretty well

[quaint current]

the one for the cpu should say EPS, dont use those. use the ones that say vga or something like that

[plucky mantle]

I double checked the power cords to the gpu, one of them was not properly seated, fixed that, and no I'm back to no display

but I'm getting post beeps

1 beep followed by 3 short

[tropic scarab]

Hello

I was referred to this discord by someone on the website

I am seeking help with a cpu / mobo issue

I was using pcpartpicker to assemble a computer

and now my messages are being deleted....

lol newegg links aren't allowed in neweggs server

priceless

[crude path]

links cant be posted until you are level 3

[hollow thorn]

Yes

[tropic scarab]

So I am trying to put this MOBO: GIGABYTE B450 AORUS M AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard with this CPU: AMD RYZEN 5 3600 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W 100-100000031BOX Desktop Processor

and pcparticker is saying some sort of BIOS upgrade or update or fix may be required

Can anyone help?

[crude path]

so basically

[tropic scarab]

Keep in mind you are speaking to a layman

[hollow thorn]

Checked page, it's compatible.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450-AORUS-M-rev-10#kf

[tropic scarab]

Compatible but will require a fix?

[crude path]

if the specific b450 board you buy was manufactured before the release of 3000 series, it may need a bios update to run a 3000 series. most b450 mobos you could buy were made after and should come with the latest bios update installed. Some b450 mobos are made with 3000 series in mind already.

[tropic scarab]

Compatible, pcpartpicker is crazy?

[crude path]

so it will say that with all b450 mobos on 3000 series cpus

[hollow thorn]

Pcpartpicker has that warning for all b450 boards with 3rd gen chips

With some exceptions

[tropic scarab]

So I should be completely fine and I don't need to worry at all?

[crude path]

yes that motherboard should have no issue with that cpu.

[tropic scarab]

Thank you very much

[plucky mantle]

Hey, me again- my colorful x570 mobo says pcie 4.0, my gpu is 3.0, wouldthat cause issues or should the mobo be able to use that gpu?

[naive pendant]

No problems there

PCIe as a rule is backwards compatible.

[plucky mantle]

Okay, I appreciate the help you guys. still nor working, so I'm guessing the mobo is bad.

[midnight pollen]

Make sure u using display port on back of gpu not mobo

[hollow thorn]

Yes

[gritty patio]

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5368610&CatId=9594

what yall think of this

i dont feel like waiting any longer and the features included are on par with the b450 tomahak

**tomahawk

i just dont know if it comes with a the updated bios

[naive pendant]

it looks like it does

just dont quote me on that

[gritty patio]

yeah cause it has pro in the name

and the asus has two versions of their b450 and the pro model has the bios

[naive pendant]

I think most new b450 motherboards come with the bios

if not all

[gritty patio]

okok thanks

i think im gonna order if off of tigerdirect

[plucky mantle]

hdmi or displayport- would that make a difference?

[gritty patio]

no clue

lmao nvm bruh

these mfs charging $23 for shipping

[naive pendant]

Where is it coming from?

[gritty patio]

no clue

but if imma pay that much i might as well get the asus one where i can actually find it in stock at that price with free shipping lmao

[plucky mantle]

I agree, but we don't really have a local reetailer for this kind of thing.

but at this point I'm willing to make a field trip

[gritty patio]

W

like i cant any boards anywhere

**cant find

[naive pendant]

Was just curious, I was looking at a PSU last night and it was free from one site and about that same $23, and I realized it was coming from the UK to the US, lol.

I can't find any either ... at least not ones I want.

[gritty patio]

45 days later lmao

like i dont want to wait for b550

[naive pendant]

I'd honestly have my gf ship it at that point (she's in the UK)

Although She's on the Isle of Wight so that adds about another $20

[gritty patio]

but if im gonna wait another 10 days for them to go back in stock and then wait like 7 days shipping i'd rather wait for b550

damn bruh

[naive pendant]

At this rate I'm getting to where I might wait for the X670

[gritty patio]

lmao nah i aint waiting that long

and i dont have enough money in the budget lmao

[rare phoenix]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15807/amd-to-support-zen-3-and-ryzen-4000-cpus-on-b450-and-x470-motherboards

This is the best news I've heard in a while lmao

[naive pendant]

okay i need some help with my build. So I have a amd ryzen threadripper, and I am not exactly too sure of what kind of motherboard to get. Is there a specific socket style that I need to get? Anyone have some advice for a PC building noob?

[hollow thorn]

Do you already own the threadripper chip or

[midnight pollen]

which threadripper

[hollow thorn]

yea

@naive pendant do you already own the chip, and what chip

[tacit hemlock]

First build is a threadripper wow

[midnight pollen]

threadripper is x399 i believe

the threadripper mobos are very expensive

[hollow thorn]

TR4 and TRx4

are the sockets

[devout moth]

Bearnard#0631 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rare phoenix]

Oh, I can't curse, mb

Giant freaking sockets

[hollow thorn]

heck

[midnight pollen]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=X399

[hollow thorn]

TRX40 are the bigger ones

for 3rd gen

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=TRx4

[naive pendant]

its a 2920X

[hollow thorn]

do you already own the chip?

[naive pendant]

@hollow thorn yes

[midnight pollen]

i think 2nd gen is sTR4

[hollow thorn]

yea I think so

but TRx4 is 3rd gen

[quaint current]

yuh tr4

[midnight pollen]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007625 601301149

~$300

[naive pendant]

it does have a little paper inside that says socket TR4. so i guess that answers my question.

[hollow thorn]

how'd you get that chip for your first build?

just wondering

[naive pendant]

second build actually. bought it on sale from micro center

like 50% off

[hollow thorn]

well

[naive pendant]

around black friday

[hollow thorn]

usually people build for gaming so

tr isn't exactly built for that

[midnight pollen]

x399 is the chipset, tr4 is the socket

[quaint current]

thats the tr4 chipset

[naive pendant]

i had some friends that said to pull the trigger on this one

[hollow thorn]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[midnight pollen]

threadrippers are fast for sure, just not meant for gaming

[hollow thorn]

they're for workstation tasks

lower frequency and well lower ipc than 3rd gen

[naive pendant]

so what kind of differences will I see?

[hollow thorn]

in games, lower fps

[naive pendant]

even with 4.3ghz boost?

[midnight pollen]

it's a bit slower than a 3950x, maybe closer to 3900x

[hollow thorn]

I mean ghost

2nd gen tr is zen+

or just zen..?

dunno

[midnight pollen]

well ya

[hollow thorn]

okay its zen+ 12nm

[midnight pollen]

just curious how much did you get it for

[hollow thorn]

yea...

msrp on that is like 500

[naive pendant]

$299

[hollow thorn]

oof

well what is done is done

[midnight pollen]

ehh

[naive pendant]

i could always re-sell and probably make a profit. Its never been used

[midnight pollen]

maybe

[hollow thorn]

yea I think you can

[midnight pollen]

i see it still going around 400 new

[hollow thorn]

take a look at this
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=2920x&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1&_sop=13

thats already sold

the most recent one being sold yesterday

[naive pendant]

would it be good enought to run borderlands 3 and jedi fallen order well enough. Im not looking for 120fps

just over 60 is nice

[hollow thorn]

like I'd suggest you just make a profit on that

and get a consumer chip that'll do quite a bit better at games

at a much lower price

for example right now you spent 300$ on the chip, and you'll have to spend about 300$ more for a motherboard

[midnight pollen]

the thing is buying a mobo for that threadripper is still going to cost a lot

[hollow thorn]

You could buy a 3600 at 180$, and a good b450 motherboard at 100$

and have better performance in games

[naive pendant]

is that your suggestion?

[tulip raft]

Right now I'm trying to get an 10900K

[hollow thorn]

Yes

I would suggest you get a 3600 and a Asus tuf b450m pro gaming motherboard

and spend the rest on a good GPU

pcpp is useful

[naive pendant]

what GPU you recommend?

[hollow thorn]

What's your total budget?

assuming you sold your cpu for 300
(you can prob sell it for 400 or more, just worst case scenario)

[naive pendant]

IDK what exactly I want my total budget to be. Prefferably not more that 1500

[hollow thorn]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fTBMx6

@naive pendant good <1500$ build

[naive pendant]

@hollow thorn thanks for the help

[hollow thorn]

you're welcome

[daring patio]

@hollow thorn you should make a pc for every budget and somehow get your profile pinned so everyone can see it

[hollow thorn]

Lol

Prices change too often tho

And stock

I should tho

Hei should do it

[lethal charm]

Only problem, Hypercore - parts change so fast.

[hollow thorn]

I could update daily

[tacit hemlock]

It doesnt even need to be daily, it could be at the beginning of every week and then we have a channel just for it that they get pinned in

[gritty patio]

Weekly budgets for the boyzz

And girls <33

[daring patio]

@hollow thorn https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/gmp45o/the_zen_3_architecture_is_coming_to_amd_x470_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[warped scroll]

no way

[daring patio]

Ahhhh

[hollow thorn]

what about it

we were talking about that like 3 hours ago in general lol

[daring patio]

Lol

[north barn]

So at this point would there be any reason to wait for a b550 besides pcie 4.0?

[quaint current]

not really, but b450/x470 might have some issues with bios's working well in the beginning and being a little buggy

[gritty patio]

Nah

If you're not upgrading to 4000 series then not really @north barn

[full folio]

@deep vigil It turns out that I have to run a very specific version of the Polychrome software, the 2.0.38 version

[shut cargo]

so i got a tracking number for my 10900k but not for my Z490 MEG ACE. At this point i won't have it by friday will I?

[sharp blaze]

https://www.pcgamer.com/asrock-figured-out-a-way-to-overclock-intels-locked-non-k-comet-lake-cpus/

[hollow thorn]

Lol

[frigid whale]

Hello

Can someone help me with a troubleshoot

[hollow thorn]

Hey

Go ahead

[frigid whale]

Just pieced my system together. Motherboard lights up.
When I hit power button it clicks but nothing activates.

[hollow thorn]

No fans no nothing?

[frigid whale]

No

Fans are all PSU powered

[hollow thorn]

Is the power button at the back of the PSU on?

[frigid whale]

Yes

[hollow thorn]

You've checked all the connections?

[frigid whale]

Yes

[hollow thorn]

Tried to reset cmos..? Maybe that could do something

[frigid whale]

The watch battery thing?

In and out?

[hollow thorn]

Yes

Don't forget to turn off PSU when you do that, and press the power button a few times to discharge everything

And in the meantime, are there debug LEDs on your Mobo?

[midnight pollen]

do you have a pcpp of your parts?

[frigid whale]

None that come on

[hollow thorn]

Weird

[frigid whale]

Just the RGB lights.

I hear a clicking I know it wants to turn over.

[hollow thorn]

Feels like either a Mobo or PSU thing

Clicking..?

[frigid whale]

When I hit power button

Something inside clicks

[midnight pollen]

can you tell where the clicking is coming from

[hollow thorn]

I believe that's a normal sound from startup one sec

[midnight pollen]

is it just one single click?

or like repetitive

[hollow thorn]

Just started up my PC to hear the sounds
https://photos.app.goo.gl/XF7fZTeCeCS9iRVs7

[frigid whale]

It's a normal click like it's about to turn on

[midnight pollen]

can we see a pic on the inside of the pc

[frigid whale]

Ignore the cables I haven't tied away yet.

It's the PSU clicking

I help my ear to it.

[weak hamlet]

not saying that's the click.. but those appear to be touching the fan.

[frigid whale]

Not touching :)

It's the psu

[weak hamlet]

is your ram in slot 2/4

[frigid whale]

Or is that 1 and 3

[midnight pollen]

put it in slots 2 and 4

this is first boot?

[weak hamlet]

yeah you have it in a1 and b2

try a2 and b2

looks like a first boot, as shiny as everything is 😄

[frigid whale]

I had all 4 of my ram plugged in and it still didn't boot

[midnight pollen]

shiny

i want to touch

[frigid whale]

I tried reducing.

Okay from left to right.

What slots

[midnight pollen]

2 and 4

[frigid whale]

Nada

[midnight pollen]

does it appear to be on when you press power or no? how is it responding

[frigid whale]

Not on just the RGB motherboard lights.

[midnight pollen]

does anything happen when you press power

[swift trench]

thats strange, if the lights on the mobo are turning on then the psu is probably fine, but no fans or lights might mean your motherboard is only partly working (maybe?)

[sharp blaze]

that front panels connector looks off

I dont have asus, or know what case you have, but I dont think that is correct

[midnight pollen]

make sure the front panel is in right spot for everything^

[swift trench]

i think his case has it all connected

[sharp blaze]

some cases have that, but should have an adapter if its not the same standard. also I see exposed pins above the header

[swift trench]

oh yes

[frigid whale]

What

[swift trench]

youre right, look at the manual for the front panel connector

[sharp blaze]

usually the top row has the power button connector

[swift trench]

the manual should explain exactly which connectors to plug into the 9 pin (4 on top, 5 on the bottom) connector

[sharp blaze]

unless asus is just very different

[swift trench]

i have an old asus mobo and its the same

[frigid whale]

This?

[swift trench]

yeah that doesnt look right

it should be plugged into every pin except the bottom right (9th pin)

[sharp blaze]

oh, nevermind. they put the speaker header above the other pins

[swift trench]

oh

thats confusing

[sharp blaze]

what case is that

[swift trench]

can you double check the connector labels?

[frigid whale]

Azza

Does the same thing when I try to jump it.

With the flathead screwdriver

[sharp blaze]

what cpu and motherboard is it

[frigid whale]

Rog strix x570-e motherboard

Amd ryzen 7 3800x

[sharp blaze]

for the time being unplug this stuff to rule it out

[frigid whale]

Unplug what stuff

[sharp blaze]

.

sorry slow internet

[frigid whale]

And my graphics card should be IN right.

[swift trench]

yeah the graphics card needs to be in for the system to post in most cases

[sharp blaze]

yes, that cpu doesn't have an integrated gpu

[frigid whale]

Same

Just a PSU click

[sharp blaze]

only other thing that really looks weird to me is that vga power connector looks kind of like it got squished. could be an optical illusion but make sure its not been damaged and nothing is shorting

[midnight pollen]

psu click is prob just a relay

[frigid whale]

My graphics is 8pin and it's plugged in

That 4 pin branches off of it

[sharp blaze]

but look at the wires near the plug. they look like they were crushed or something. make sure there is no exposed wire

could just be deformed a bit from how they were packaged

[frigid whale]

My old setup just was working. Same PSU. No more than 2 hours ago.

I just put in a brand new cpu

[swift trench]

you might want to just pull everything out and test it outside of the case

[devout moth]

MrTaco#3285 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[midnight pollen]

what cpu and what mobo

[frigid whale]

Whoops

I bent the old one like an idiot.

[sharp blaze]

any chance you seated it incorrectly and bent some pins

[frigid whale]

New cpu

Didn't make that mistake again

[midnight pollen]

did you upgrade just the cpu or the cpu and mobo

[frigid whale]

Cpu
Mobo
Ram
Gcard

Two new hdd

[clear quarry]

Hello, I have a question. My computer currently has 4 slots for memory, and two of them are being occupied by 8 GB memory each. I would like to add more memory to my computer but do I need to get the exact same 8 GB Memory or can I use a different version/model? I hope my question makes sense.

[sharp blaze]

usually when a board instantly shuts off like that something somewhere is shorted

[frigid whale]

It doesn't instantly shut off it never turns on

[midnight pollen]

@clear quarry same kit of mem works best

[sharp blaze]

if you press a button and hear a click that usually means some protection is kicking in and stopping the power from powering up

[clear quarry]

Thank you for your insight, I figure as much but wanted to be sure.

[midnight pollen]

always best to double check 🙂

it could be click preventing it turning on or click to turn on power

[frigid whale]

I'm a failure.

I've been at this build since I placed my order March 26th.

I built my friends Intel build perfectly fine. No issues.

Not this one.

[deep vigil]

Heyy my rmx 850 has its fan hitting something and is making alot of noise anyway to fix?

[frigid whale]

Any thoughts? 😱

[spark kiln]

If I bought a b450m-a/csm in feb on amazon, what are the odds that it’s ryzen 3000 ready?

I’d check the box but my mom threw away the box and it had the m.2 screw still in it!!! Smh

[tranquil wolf]

the b450m-a/csm is 3000 ready, we put one together for my roomie last week

our board was missing the m.2 standoff completely lol

[solemn hare]

My computer has this Intel Management Engine driver missing eveeryrime I boot up and will shut down 30 mins later. I found out that if I pull the power adaptor to the motherboard and plug it in again, it will appear upon the next boot up. Motherboard having issues?? It has this bus 0, device 22 error when I don't pull it out to replug it in.

[jaunty folio]

If I plan on streaming and gaming, would a R7 2700X or R5 3600 perform better?

[midnight pollen]

3600 better for gaming, for streaming a nvidia gpu would be best using the nvenc encoder

[thorny gate]

much of a jump from ryzen 7 1700 to ryzen 5 3600?

is it woirth the money?

[midnight pollen]

3600 much better for gaming

[thorny gate]

even with the 2 lesser cores?

[midnight pollen]

yes, cores don't always matter

[thorny gate]

im using a asrock fatality x370 mb atm but its setup for 3000 series

[midnight pollen]

if you trust userbenchmark: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-1700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600/3917vs4040

[thorny gate]

when is 4000 supposed to hit?

[midnight pollen]

yeah bios update if it's not updated already on x370 can support 3000

[thorny gate]

yea i updated it while ago

[midnight pollen]

4000 series looks like it might come out later this year

but it seems it will not support x370

or at least they don't plan to as of rn

[thorny gate]

o no

i was gonna get x470 with 4000 if i went that route

[midnight pollen]

yeah x470 can work with bios update in future

[hollow thorn]

@midnight pollen y ub

[midnight pollen]

idk

too lazy to search anywhere else, im in a rush about to go somewhere

[hollow thorn]

Passmark
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-1700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600/2970vs3481

Aight

[manic temple]

I'm doing a build soon and was wondering if it's better to just do two sticks of 4gb ram so I can have dual channel off the bat or should I go with one stick of 8gb so I can later upgrade with one more 8gb stick

[strange prism]

i9 10900k or ryzen 9 3900x?

[hollow thorn]

For what

heater? 10900k

jk

[muted roost]

@manic temple if your system has 4 dimm slots I would go for duel sticks

[manic temple]

It does

[muted roost]

Duel sticks then

Upgrade with 2 more later

[manic temple]

ty!

[crude path]

@midnight pollen they said it will not work with the x470s. only b550 and x570 as far as we know right now

[midnight pollen]

I believe amd recently announce support for 470 and b450 on zen 3

They did not say however that it will be on all boards, that will be up to the manufacturer

[crude path]

oh neat you're right

but

but still cool lol

[midnight pollen]

https://i.imgur.com/noM01EQ.png

updating bios to support it will get rid of support for some older chips because of ROM issues tho

and they will most likely not ship with zen 3 ready bios

[crude path]

im wondering if it will have a performance impact on the zen 3 chips tho. i feel like there was a reason they didnt want to lol

ah fair

[midnight pollen]

looks like there may be some limitations, but i guess we will have to see for ourselves

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crude path]

ill just wait and see what happens. and then watch other people do it before i try it myself 😛

[midnight pollen]

yeah it's like preordering

[crude path]

i just wanna make sure it will work fine before or if i decide to get a zen 3 lol. Like i dont wanna try to update bios with a 2600 and it break the mobo cause it loses support for the 2600 halfway through the update or something 😛

[midnight pollen]

lol

[sharp blaze]

if the bios you are flashing to does not support the cpu your old cpu will not work after its done and it restarts. It will work fine until a reboot.

[zenith fog]

i have a asus b450 prime plus and ryzen 5 3600 do i need a bios update so will i need a different cpu

[vital falcon]

Anyone know the size of the M.2's on the MSI z390 Tomahawk MB is? i think the uncovered one is the full sized, but the smaller one that is covered, not sure the size.... been looking for this. Anyone have this MB and used both M.2 slots for storage?

oh think I found it.. but if anyone uses it.. any information would help!

[daring patio]

Should I get a ryzen 5 3600 or ryzen 7 2700x?

[gritty patio]

3600 :))

[hollow thorn]

@daring patio depends, what you tryna do with it

[midnight pollen]

3600 would be better for gaming where 2700x would be better for content creation stuff

[grizzled holly]

What's the difference between the i5 10600K and the i5 10600KF?

[hollow thorn]

integrated graphics

[midnight pollen]

KF variants do not have integrated graphics

[grizzled holly]

Does it give it any advantages?

[midnight pollen]

you will need a discrete gpu

ehh id just get whatever is cheaper at the time

[grizzled holly]

10600KF

So there is no advantage?

[midnight pollen]

no

[grizzled holly]

Oh

So not having integrated graphics just brings down the price?

[midnight pollen]

depends on the market, i've seen the KF chips go lower and higher than the normal version in the past

[grizzled holly]

And which would be better for gaming and streaming

[midnight pollen]

between the 10600k and 10600kf there would be no difference

[grizzled holly]

Alright, last question, wait for Ryzen 4000 series before buying the 10th gen series from intel or no.

[midnight pollen]

if you can wait i'd say yes wait

[grizzled holly]

Alright

Sorry, one more question, should I just stick with my 2700X? I got it in December

[midnight pollen]

amd has been killing it lately and might continue with some very interesting products

[grizzled holly]

yeah I agree

[midnight pollen]

the 2700x is a fine chip, it should still last some time

[grizzled holly]

Alright

Thanks for the help

[midnight pollen]

np

[deft phoenix]

after seeing the performance of the new intel i think ill just get a 3950x if that is the better choice

[daring patio]

@hollow thorn Gaming, schoolwork and dad's work

[hollow thorn]

3600

[manic temple]

Does Zen 2 and 7nm really matter THAT much for CPUs?

[hollow thorn]

yes

IPC improvement lmao

[manic temple]

How big of a difference does it make overall

[hollow thorn]

like

20%

[manic temple]

The two or for each

[hollow thorn]

what

[manic temple]

Like 20% for each or for both

[hollow thorn]

Zen 2, built on 7nm, has 20% ipc improvements over Zen+

[manic temple]

Ok

Thank you

[hollow thorn]

If you just shrink the gate size, and don't change your architecture, all you'll get is a smaller die of the same performance

[grizzled holly]

Which would be a better motherboard, https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144302 or https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145190

[hollow thorn]

Why z490 tho

[grizzled holly]

might get the 10700K if the 4000 series is a flop

it probably won’t though

but preparing for the worst

[raven topaz]

Does anyone know when the 3300x is going to be available

It says it was the 13th of may, but it is still not on amazon. Mabye its a canada thing?

[mild tinsel]

"May 21, 2020
The new AMD Ryzen 3 3100 and 3300X CPUs have a release date set for May 21, 2020, with the Intel 10th “Gen” release date set for May 20, 2020."

this is what google told me

[grizzled holly]

What RAM has RGB that syncs with NZXT's CAM software?

[warm fulcrum]

I have a question about mobo's. Can someone help me?

[hollow thorn]

Ask away

[gritty patio]

@warm fulcrum whats ur question vrother

[plucky mantle]

Hey, none of the sata ports on my mobo seem to work. it's an x570 and ryzen 3900x

Is there something about that combination I don't know? the GPU thing threw me off a little

[hollow thorn]

What do you mean none of the stat ports work?

How are you testing them?

[plucky mantle]

by plugging in drives and seeing if the show up in bios.

only the m.2 drives seem to be detected

[hollow thorn]

Do you restart every time you plug it in?

I don't think sata is hot pluggable by default

[plucky mantle]

yes

[hollow thorn]

Do you know that the sata drive works?

[plucky mantle]

Yes. I tested it on a different PC.

[deep vigil]

Did you try different sata cable

[gleaming fog]

is RGB worth it on RAM for more money? also do 3200 vs 3600 speeds matter?

[plucky mantle]

Yes, and I tried a different power cable.

[hollow thorn]

3200 vs 3600 a matters a lot for Ryzen

[deep vigil]

@gleaming fog yes

[hollow thorn]

RGB only if you want it

[deep vigil]

And also cl

[hollow thorn]

Don't forget Cas latency

[green agate]

Always try to get 3600

[hollow thorn]

well

3200cl14 > 3600cl18

latency matters

[deep vigil]

The ddr4 3600 cl16 gskills really good kiy

[hollow thorn]

Yea G.skill trident z neo 3600cl16 is good for RGB

@plucky mantle is it partitioned..?

[gleaming fog]

i have a set of 2x8GB 3600 mhz g.skill ripjaws V (CL 16-19-19-39) that i got for $84. rgb seems to be alot pricier wherever i look for those speeds and latencies

[hollow thorn]

ofc

rgb costs more

always

Because maybe it's assigned to a letter that is already used by the SSD and it's conflicting maybe? not too sure by now

Theres a very very very low possibility that ALL of the sata ports on your mobo don't work

[plucky mantle]

It's got a zfs partition on it, but I presumed bios should at least be able to see it. And win10 disk management doesn't show it at all, regardless of which sata port it's in

[deep vigil]

Also a m.2 drive mau disable one of the sata ports

[plucky mantle]

see, that's what I was wondering

[hollow thorn]

It never disables all of them

usually just 2

[deep vigil]

Ye

[hollow thorn]

what motherboard, cpu, and drive?

[plucky mantle]

colorful CVN X570 GAMING PRO V14, ryzen 3900x and seagate 3tb spinner

[hollow thorn]

the

what motherboard

[deep vigil]

Idk what that is

[plucky mantle]

brand is colorful. I know, it's weird

[hollow thorn]

oh its on the sheet

we're fine

[deep vigil]

Never heard of it

[hollow thorn]

nothing should be disabled

[meager pecan]

Is 3 hours of Prime95 small ffts enough to rule out CPU instability while playing Asphalt/TF2

[hollow thorn]

should be

[meager pecan]

coolio

[plucky mantle]

Okay, thanks for the confirmation. I can always just go get an offboard controller if I have to.

Is there a reasonably convenient way I can compensate you guys for the help? Ya'll have solved a few problems in my new build and I'm quite grateful.

[hollow thorn]

Just a warning, I've heard things with the seagate barracuda 3tb model in particular with very high failure rate

nah

no need

[plucky mantle]

Well, just know that I'm appreciative.

[hollow thorn]

You're welcome.

[gleaming fog]

is $28 more worth getting rgb on ram (comparing non-rgb and rgb options with same specs)

[meager pecan]

yes, here's my patreon /s

$28 more?

The real question is how much is the $28 compared to how much you're actually spending

[gleaming fog]

fair lol

[meager pecan]

if you're talking 16GB of RAM, which is the bare minimum RGB RAM gets sold at, I think

It would be a hard sell

[gleaming fog]

its a 2x8gb

[meager pecan]

unless it was a very particular type of RGB RAM

the type with dummy RGB RAM sticks I can use to fill out the slots

if it was 32GB or 64GB

I would absolutely jump at it no matter what

if you happen to be getting Corsair Vengeance/Pro RGB

remember the fake RGB sticks sell for $40 for a pair

well

they used to...

[gleaming fog]

g.skill ripjaws V vs g.skill trident z rgb (or neo cause 2 dollar difference)

[meager pecan]

trident z is a nicer looking one

you sure they have the absolute same timings though?

or at least CL?

[gleaming fog]

yea both cl 16-19-19-39

[meager pecan]

um

well that's up to you

but if I felt there was nowhere else to put the money

then yes, I would do that

[hollow thorn]

well

[meager pecan]

I would just make sure I'm not making any glaring compromises on performance elsewhere first

[hollow thorn]

If you're mix matching ram, rgb don't look great

[meager pecan]

and there are usually quite a few upgrades that can be made even with $30

and yes

[hollow thorn]

since you said you had ripjaw vs

[meager pecan]

if you plan to upgrade your RAM down the line

you'll be locked into buying the same exact kit

unless uh

you're an absolute monster

/s

Wait, is this RAM for an entirely new PC

or RAM as an upgrade (assuming you're not ditching your old sticks)

[gleaming fog]

i ordered the ripjaws on amazon prime for $84 and i would get a free return and get the other one for $113.39 (after tax) from newegg. the only thing that might be an issue is that the specific set of ripjaws i recieved were tested on an intel core and the latency readings are based off of that (got them through a 3rd party seller on amazon with prime so didnt have option for ryzen specific ones)

from what i can tell online, it showing "supports intel core" shouldnt matter

also its for my first build (got most of the parts in)

the only difference would be slight CL variations and would have to test and enter custom values

[meager pecan]

Yes, generally "Core optimized", "AMD optimized", etc. are negligibly helpful at best and complete nonsense at worst

[hollow thorn]

What other one are you talking about?

[gleaming fog]

so with that being said, spend more money? or use the ones i got for now?

[hollow thorn]

also at 113$... you can possibly get the B-die stuff

[meager pecan]

the trident z 16-19.... kit

@hollow thorn

[hollow thorn]

gotta check prices

[gleaming fog]

b-die?

[meager pecan]

Refers to the highest quality of RAM produced which can hit notably high frequencies/low timings.

[hollow thorn]

huh

[meager pecan]

nani

[hollow thorn]

iirc this was b die
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232858

[mild jackal]

[hollow thorn]

more expensive then I remembered

ye forks

but rgb

[meager pecan]

CL16 3600MHz

seems like B-die to me

well

at least I remember hearing something about this particular kit

[mild jackal]

Lowest it's been is $100 /2x8 for 3200cl14 non-rgb, rgb $20 more, both are a bit inflated because 'rona

[gleaming fog]

i can send the links but would have to DM cause cant send links on here

[mild jackal]

3600 16 16 16 38 is lower end b-die, but still b-die

16 19 19 42 is probably Hynix CJR or something

[hollow thorn]

DJR in my case

[meager pecan]

errmmm

I don't think it's an issue with links specifically

[hollow thorn]

oh wait

[meager pecan]

more that the ones you're sending are ridiculously long for some reason...

[hollow thorn]

right 3200 cl14 is likely better binned than 3600 cl16 ?

[meager pecan]

apparently yes?

[gleaming fog]

@meager pecan i dmed you the links

[quaint current]

3200cl14 is usually b die, 3600cl16 is lower end b die or other dies such as e die

[hollow thorn]

@quaint current I know the 16-16-16-38 kit is b die, I checked it before

16-19-19-39 is prob cjr/djr

@mild jackal is DJR just dual rank CJR? do you know? just curious

[mild jackal]

Don't think so

[hollow thorn]

alr bc djr isn't listed on the reddit oc guide xD

and cjr is just "found on some corsair 3600mhz ram"

[quaint current]

@hollow thorn yuh all 16's is usually b die, but the lower latency kits are probably poorly binned b die at best

[hollow thorn]

well

I'm not too sure

3600cl16 is about the same latency as 3200cl14

idfk tho

we wer taking
F4-3600C16D-16GTZN

[quaint current]

yuh thats b die

[hollow thorn]

mhm

I checked before :p

I have F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC

so I thought the C meant CJR die

but no

I have DJR die

[quaint current]

no the c stands for cool

[mild jackal]

Is it b-die?
https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

-might add more ram stuff later

[hollow thorn]

ye b die finder good

[quaint current]

[hollow thorn]

oh yea forks not sure if worth pinning but
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit?usp=sharing

very useful for everything

[mild jackal]

Reaper pinned that

[hollow thorn]

oh wait

wack

thought that was the other thing

[mild jackal]

I'll pin a z490 vrm tier list / mobo spreadsheet when I find a good one

[hollow thorn]

for some reason I thought that was
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1137619-motherboard-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/

[quaint current]

the longboi

[hollow thorn]

anyways

[mild jackal]

I have the z370/390/, all x570 ones saved, but they're a bit less relevant now

Haha I think that longboi is super useful

[hollow thorn]

I dont like using it xD

[quaint current]

also i found this pretty neat thing for ram SKU's and what they mean https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/meaning-of-ram-product-item-numbers-codes.3113155/

[mild jackal]

I think it's the easiest quick reference + it has the bios flashback feature indicated

[hollow thorn]

but yea the z390 mobo sheet by the same guy that made the am4 sheet is good

It's just pog for MSI and Gigabyte :p

some asus some asrock

theres like 1 non-msi board with bios flashback on b450/x470

[mild jackal]

Is the z390 sheet I like https://www.overclock.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=250662&d=1548963030

The spreadsheets for 115x/AM4 are useful, might pin later

[stable yew]

Looking for some help from this group... I'm building a pc with ryzen 7 3700x. I'm set on a MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC motherboard for it but I read that it doesn't support Precision Boost Overdrive. Is not supporting the Precision Boost Overdrive a deal breaker for this?

[hollow thorn]

Where exactly did you read that? @stable yew

Because I'm kind of running PBO off that exact motherboard, with a 3800x

DM it to me

[shrewd jacinth]

A10 5700, Speed is key.

Im gonna build a 3800x 2070 super build, What you guys think? 32gb 3200 ram

[deep vigil]

@shrewd jacinth what is the purpose of the pc

[daring quest]

i'm confused. I had ryzen 5 3600 msi tomahawk b350 with 32gb ripjaws V and it only recognised 1 stick. but trident z 16gb is compatible? is ripjaws just not great for matisse?

[naive pendant]

try a different dimm slot and see it it detects it

[daring quest]

i did

tried all 4, bios is up to date. works with my 1600 but not my 3600

[naive pendant]

google it you will probably find an answers after a little research.

im not shure why it would do that

but the ram work on 1600 and not the 3600 are the two chips on the same mobo?

[daring quest]

yes

I switched back to a 8gb kit of ripjaws V and they work fine

[naive pendant]

if you can try a different 16 gb kit

[grizzled holly]

I want a black and white scheme

So I got black RAM

Can I get the same exact RAM in white and it'll still work?

[shy breach]

@grizzled holly the answer is yes, probably. Kinda depends on the RAM and the Mobo. If the RAM is manufactured with zero changes one stick to another it [i]should[/i] work... As long as your motherboard isn't "picky" I've had motherboards that would boot with 4 different dims from 4 different manufacturers and I've had motherboards that wouldn't boot with a matched DIM set even though it would boot with every single DIM one at a time...

[manic temple]

Does the Ryzen 3 3200G work on the asrock B450M Steel Legend mobo without a bios update?

[gritty patio]

it should

thats why i got mine

also

anyone know where to get the 3300x

i missed the release on newegg and was wondering if i should just preorder off of b&h

[naive pendant]

If I get a build and it only has one stick of ram and I need another; what’re the requirements?

Can I simply get another stick that is the same speed?

@midnight pollen might you know by chance?

[midnight pollen]

it is best to get the same kit of ram

[naive pendant]

Simply for compatibility?

[midnight pollen]

mixing kits can sometimes have compatibility issues like the timings or clock no playing nice

[naive pendant]

Oh, thank you

[thick fjord]

Hey, do any of you recomend a ASUS Pro WS X570 motherboard?

Or would i be better off going with a MSI motherboard?

[hollow thorn]

Brand name doesn't matter as much as the exact model

[thick fjord]

Alright, thank you

[quaint current]

@thick fjord if you mean the ws x570 ace, thats designed as a workstation motherboard, the cheapest i could find it is like $380, i'd recommend a board thats $180-200 if you have a ryzen 3900x/3950x, or a b450 board like the b450 tuf pro

[mild jackal]

Get pro ws if you want an out of band management port and/or a plx chip to run 3 x8 lanes.

[quaint current]

^

that and ecc memory support are basically the only reasons to get it

[grizzled holly]

@shy breach Do you know if the ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F motherboard is picky?

[shy breach]

@grizzled holly I actually have one I'm building right now, I can try a couple different sets of RAM.

[gritty patio]

jesus

9 sets fo ram

**of

my goodness

i barely bought one

anywho

uhm yall know where to buy the 3300x or nah?

i missed the pre-order on amazon a couple of weeks ago

and missed the stock on newegg sometime in between 2:57am and 8am

and i cant find it anywhere else

[shrewd jacinth]

@deep vigil for the LATE reply, gaming/productivity hense the 32gb of ram and 8 cores streaming/VMs/light editing

[ionic hamlet]

Just going to have to wait for it to come back in stock, like everything else that's outta whack right now

[shrewd jacinth]

Everything is out of stock here in AUS it's so anornying

Specially psu's

[crude path]

thats everywhere

[gritty patio]

it only sold on newegg tho as for being released on the actual day

**far

[clear walrus]

what would a good motherboard that is not too expensive for a Ryzen 3 3300x be

[gritty patio]

i got the asrock steel legend atx

sexy mf mb

with two nvme slots i believe

**believe

but it also has rgb

i got mine for $108

but you could also get x470 over a b450 since it will be supported in the future

@clear walrus

[clear walrus]

ok thank you

[gritty patio]

where do you plan on getting the 3300x? @clear walrus

[clear walrus]

newegg

[gritty patio]

when its back in stock or what?

[clear walrus]

yeah maybe or i might just find the cheapest place

and easiest to get

[gritty patio]

i think im gonna get mine off of b&h

[spare ferry]

i need a little bit of help. i am getting a z490 mb and noticed that it has one 8 pin 4 + 4 and one 4 pin slot to power the cpu. my psu only has a single 8 pin 4+4 power connector. should i get another 8 pin 4+4 power connector and where can i find one? what i see most of on newegg are psu power connector extension cables.

[supple monolith]

You don't need both

[crude path]

what cpu? a lot of people have no problem only using 1 8pin

[spare ferry]

for reference here's the mb (aorus z490 pro ax) https://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll1280/13-145-194-V07.jpg

[supple monolith]

Unless you are doing some serious OC

[spare ferry]

i7 10700k

i'm gonna go for some modest OC like maybe 4.8 or 4.9 OC on all cores

[crude path]

you might wanna see about getting a new psu or if your psu has the slot for another cpu pin, getting another wire for it then

[supple monolith]

I'd just buy a cablemod 4+4 if you want it

And if you have the psu slot

[spare ferry]

only 1? that's good to know. either way, i am gonna try and get a new psu, preferably the evga supernova g3 750w

yeah that's the thing idk if it even has another slot for that

[supple monolith]

What PSU do you have

[spare ferry]

i could take a look but it's a thermaltake toughpower 80+ gold 750w

[crude path]

the g3 is a better psu

[spare ferry]

yeah, i really like the 10 year warranty

now if only i could get it in stock lol

[quaint current]

as long as you dont try to push like 850w into it, G3 is a great psu

[spare ferry]

and it comes with 2 8 pin 4+4 cables

[supple monolith]

Yeah, go EVGA or corsair if you want good customer support/warrenty

[spare ferry]

so i should be alright with the single 8 pin with the OC i mentioned?

btw thanks for the responses

i am still a bit of a novice when it comes to this

[supple monolith]

I honestly am I novice with OC too, I just know you don't need a second one if you aren't OCing

[quaint current]

a single 8 pin eps maxes out a 235W, you should be fine but its better to have both incase

[spare ferry]

thanks

right now i am using it with my z390 and 9700k 4.7 ghz oc on all cores

at 1.21v

upgrading because i want hyperthreading and the 10700k is like a cheaper 9900k

plus my family needs some extra components for computers and will be gifting some old hardware

ah, all i'm seeing are extension cables for the 4+4

[gritty patio]

any good white atx cases?

[hollow thorn]

theres a ton

TD500 mesh white

Focus G white for lower end

[gritty patio]

the one that just came out right?

yeah cause im looking at cases for my asroxk board i just bought the other day

**asrock

its the steel legend

[spare ferry]

i have my eyes on the be quiet pure base 500dx

it comes in white

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1560264-REG/be_quiet_bgw38_pure_base_500dx_mid.html

gamersnexus did a review of it btw

[gritty patio]

yeah i saw that

sold out everywhere :/

[spare ferry]

it's on backorder yeah

"Expected availability: 3-7 business days"

[gritty patio]

cap

[spare ferry]

we'll see if that ends up being true

[gritty patio]

just lmk lul

case and the cpu are the last things i need

and sorry i meant to ask the case question in the other chat lmao

[shy breach]

@gritty patio I did a case review of the Lian Li Lancool 2 on my YT channel. I built two system in it. It's pretty awesome.

[gritty patio]

yeah i was looking at that as well

that and the be quiet one looked clean af

but my only problem was that i found some cases included more fans

that are also rgb

like the td 500

so im still not too sure

i also found this one but ill put it in the correct chat

and those prices for the card i sent normally goes down after a couple of days for around $300 or 245 pounds

[spare ferry]

@crude path @supple monolith @quaint current took a lot of poking around, this is what i found https://store.cablemod.com/configurator/#cfgload:7f66b0bab41c

not my exact model, but i think it should do

the shipping though WEW $20

[supple monolith]

Yeah, pricey

I'd see if you can find em on Amazon, where they don't charge a ton for shipping

[spare ferry]

they're all corsair compatible only from what i'm seeing

[naive pendant]

Yo, ordered a rockit cool 9900k delid and direct die complete kit yesterday and its already shipped out yesterday ready to arrive by Wednesday at the latest 👍

[thorny gate]

been watching videos and noticed that a bunch are using 3900x and x370

is that really viable?

[naive pendant]

Oof

[shy breach]

@thorny gate depends on the x370. The Gigabyte AX370 Gaming K7 got a really good review for it's VRM from Buildzoid, it should have zero issues running a 3900x or 3950x, you just won't get as much I/O and obviously no PCIE 4.0

[thorny gate]

@shy breach just watched a video of a guy run a 3900x on a b350m lol

successfully too

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=3900x+and+asrock+x370&docid=608021103727411553&mid=6E3D0E733D80A6B2B4D76E3D0E733D80A6B2B4D7&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

ill probably go 3700x the gain is minimal between the two

like not even 10 frames higher

[meager pecan]

3750X

3850X

[thorny gate]

im pretty sure its 3700x 3800x and 3900x only 50 i know of is the 3950x

[jovial nova]

Yo

And cards good or no

[charred venture]

?

[vapid mist]

Hey, I think I am gonna buy my RAM for my new PC early so i can use it now, how does that sound?

[past minnow]

do it

get a decent 100 dollar kit

[vapid mist]

No, i am getting good RAm lol

my new PC is a beast

I am getting a 200-300 kit

[past minnow]

ahh ok

[vapid mist]

Yee, big PC gains

[past minnow]

so probably 32gb 3600 speed

[vapid mist]

haha

no

[past minnow]

you can get some trident z royal

[vapid mist]

64 GB 3600 cl16

[past minnow]

ah

[vapid mist]

Yee

I am doing a render rig

[past minnow]

I was going to get the trident z royal silver kit

[vapid mist]

I just have an older gaming PC, but my renders are limited by RAM

[past minnow]

but I changed my mind

oh ok gotcha

[vapid mist]

Yeah

High end Ryzen really loves its high speed RAM

[past minnow]

true true

[vapid mist]

I am aiming for 3950x or 4000 series equivalent

[past minnow]

interesting

[meager pecan]

@thorny gate haven't been keeping up with the rumors, I take it

[analog dune]

Any good mobo recommendations i have a ryzen 5 3600

[rich sphinx]

Any good mobo recommendations i have a ryzen 5 3600
@analog dune I used this motherboard with the Ryzen 9 3900x. It's out of stock rn, but pretty cheap for what you'd get: https://www.newegg.com/asrock-x570-phantom-gaming-4/p/N82E16813157884?Item=N82E16813157884

[analog dune]

Looks ok rn i was planing to get asus tuf gaming pro

[rich sphinx]

This one? https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-z390-pro-gaming/p/N82E16813119160?Description=asus tuf gaming pro&cm_re=asus_tuf_gaming_pro-_-13-119-160-_-Product&quicklink=true

[cobalt tartan]

If anyone can spare the time, I'm looking to upgrade my Samsung SSD 840 120GB, to a Samsung SSD 860 500GB. I just wanted to make sure it would be compatiable with my system. or if its even possible

[charred venture]

it is as long as you have a sata port/power available

[wheat merlin]

Anybody got some good RAM recommendations

[crude path]

g.skill

gskill ripjaws ram was what was usually recomended as the cheaper but still really good option

idk if thats still true tho cause of the shortage in parts

typically you want at least 16 gb of 3200 or 3600 ddr4 (if you're running newer stuff) and CL16

[pliant flicker]

What cpu? Intel or AMD?

If you are AMD I would look at 3600 with the lowest CL that fits your budget. For intel you can get away with higher speeds but highest speed and lowest CL that fits your budget. At least 16gb for sure

[crude path]

3200 is sufficient for any 1000 or 2000 series ryzen cpu, and its enough for r5 3600. higher than that you probably want 3600 mhz ram although its still not absolutely necessary, just to get the best out of your cpu. I'm not entirely sure on the intel cpus. also its usually reccomended to get CL16 or lower in any case from what i've seen but i still dont fully understand the CL so 🤷‍♂️

[charred venture]

cant 1000/2000s only support upto 3200?

or am i wrong

[lethal charm]

@Kise Shouldn't have any issue at all. However, if buying new, probably more value in a 1TB drive ($130?) than spending +/- $90 on a 500GB drive.

[crude path]

it appears that for the 2000 chips the rated speed is 2933, but you can still overclock past that. Im using a 2600 with ram clocked at 3200 and i am getting that 3200

keep in mind the speed rating shown for those chips are the guarantees. amd guarantees it will run at 2933 or lower. If you OC, it is not guaranteed.

but usually it works fine