#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 102

stiff kraken Apr 14, 2020, 8:26 PM

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X570 will give you a nice upgrade path

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i've heard good things about ASRock X570 Steel Legend

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for some reason the wifi version is cheaper than the no wifi version

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pcpartpicker says right now a R5 3600 + ASRock X570 steel legend wifi will cost $344.98

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so just under your budget

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R5 3600 has 65W TDP and a power limit of 88W so i don't think psu wattage will be a problem

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psu wattage shouldn't become a concern unless you upgrade to a high end gpu

hollow basin Apr 14, 2020, 8:29 PM

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I was kinda trying to avoid ASrock because this last motherboard I bought was from them and its given me a lot of trouble

stiff kraken Apr 14, 2020, 8:30 PM

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well it's not your only option it's just a board i've happened to hear good things about

hollow basin Apr 14, 2020, 8:31 PM

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most recently I was looking at a ASUS TUF B450-Pro Gaming

stiff kraken Apr 14, 2020, 8:31 PM

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could try Gigabyte X570 GAMING X ($154.99), Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ($164.99), MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ($168.00)

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i think with your budget of $350 for nothing but cpu and mobo going for X570 is worth it

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X570 board will last you a few years longer than a B450 board

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i think it will support one more cpu gen and it also comes with pcie 4 which B450 does not

hollow basin Apr 14, 2020, 8:32 PM

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ok. I know nothing about any of this new stuff really

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I think I was looking at an x570 last week

stiff kraken Apr 14, 2020, 8:32 PM

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if you stretch a X570 board into ryzen 5000 era then you'll have gotten great value out of it compared to B450

hollow basin Apr 14, 2020, 8:33 PM

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sounds good to me

stiff kraken Apr 14, 2020, 8:33 PM

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3700X is pretty much out of budget even if you go B450

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and 3600X is kinda whatever

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so I think 3600 + X570 is the way to go

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I personally bought a 3600X because it was on sale for only $5 more than the 3600

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but it's really just a slightly better binned factory overclocked 3600

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oh actually i forgot to consider if you're upgrading all the way from a phenom you will need new ram

hollow basin Apr 14, 2020, 8:38 PM

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yup

cerulean nova Apr 14, 2020, 8:38 PM

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@stiff kraken ryzen 5000 i think is going to be am5 right? meaning it wont work on x570. and considering he has a phenom, i dont think he plans to upgrade the cpu during the 4000 series, so i think just getting a decent b450 like the tuf and spending the money saved elsewhere, or just saving it, would be better

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imo at least

stiff kraken Apr 14, 2020, 8:38 PM

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i don't think anyone knows yet if ryzen 5000 will be am5 or not

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it's a toss up

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but getting a cheaper 3900x or something after ryzen 4000/5000 releases is also an upgrade path

hollow basin Apr 14, 2020, 8:40 PM

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yeah, knowing me I'll probably keep the next cpu way longer than anyone should as well

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until maybe when AM6 is out

stiff kraken Apr 14, 2020, 8:42 PM

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then i would argue X570 having pcie 4 makes it worth spending the extra for if you plan to keep your cpu for a very long time

cerulean nova Apr 14, 2020, 8:45 PM

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And a decent b450 should be able to handle a 3900x or id image midrange 4000 series
and pcie 4 is only useful if he is buying an ssd that uses it, and given he probably isnt going to use that, why have it?
Unless some major shakeups happen, faster ssds arent very useful for the average consumer. Most people wont even really be able to tell the difference between a sata and a regular nvme, let alone a gen 4 one

stiff kraken Apr 14, 2020, 8:47 PM

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pcie 4 ssds are almost certainly going to become relevant to gaming in the next few years due to next gen consoles adopting them

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devs will utilize their new resources

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if i'm not upgrading cpu/mobo for the next 12 years then i would much rather have it

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so in 4 years i can buy a pcie 4 ssd without having to change everything else

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i use a B450 board myself, but if he intends to keep this new cpu/mobo for as long as his current one, then i would only go X570

long geyser Apr 14, 2020, 8:49 PM

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SATA SSD to NVMe SSD is about 2 seconds loading difference

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gen4 wont be needed in gaming PCs for a long time

hollow thorn Apr 14, 2020, 8:49 PM

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4.0 doesn't make that much time for gaming

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nvme is just flex really

stiff kraken Apr 14, 2020, 8:49 PM

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and 12 years is a long time

long geyser Apr 14, 2020, 8:50 PM

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you'd need a better CPU

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to take into consideration of decompression

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so maybe a 3950x could do it

charred venture Apr 14, 2020, 8:50 PM

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at this point nvme is basically the best for the price rn

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but in 12 years

stiff kraken Apr 14, 2020, 8:51 PM

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i mean i agree with you that i'd rather upgrade more than once every 12 years

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but i'm basing this off of the intention to not upgrade cpu/mobo for 12 years

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i love my B450 board but i intend to upgrade in maybe 3-4 years

long geyser Apr 14, 2020, 8:53 PM

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without a better CPU and maybe memory for better decompression time, that or larger SSDs to have no need for compression, then I dont see the need for gen4 NVMe yet in gaming, even if keeping it for a long time

stiff kraken Apr 14, 2020, 8:55 PM

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future graphics cards will probably also start taking advantage of pcie 4

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so there's that to consider

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it's an extra cost of like $3-4/year kaishrug

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i wouldn't hold back on that

hollow basin Apr 14, 2020, 8:59 PM

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yeah, that would suck to finally get around to upgrading my graphics and need that I guess

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would that be a requirement you think or just optional

long geyser Apr 14, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Pretty sure the CPU would start limiting you before x16 gen3. Just only the 2080Ti loses more then 0.5% perf (seems like going from x8 to x16 was always like a 1.01x perf increase for any gen3 ready GPU), but that was only like 1% - 1.5% perf loss I think. We got a long way to fully utilize x16 on GPUs and by the time we do I'd take a guess that current CPUs would be to slow, and thus shouldnt be worried about

cerulean nova Apr 14, 2020, 9:22 PM

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i thought the 2080ti wasnt even maxing out gen3 x8 @long geyser

long geyser Apr 14, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Pretty sure it was, literally just barely tho

cerulean nova Apr 14, 2020, 9:28 PM

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ahh

stiff kraken Apr 14, 2020, 9:29 PM

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I personally wouldn't bet on 12 years of gpus not being able to saturate pcie 3 x16

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even pcie 4 x8 is a lot more bandwidth than pcie 3 x16 isn't it

cerulean nova Apr 14, 2020, 9:32 PM

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but is he going to be purchasing a 3080ti?

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or a 4080ti

main pulsar Apr 14, 2020, 9:33 PM

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4.0 x8 is the same as 3.0 x16

noble jewel Apr 15, 2020, 4:03 PM

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any suggestions on best b450 mobo for ryzen 3600?

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lots of articles/videos say tomahawk max but several people in here have said its a bad board lol so any help greatly apreciated

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or is it worth to shell out another 60 bucks for a low end 570?

crude path Apr 15, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Basically any b450 mobo would run the 3600 as long as it has the most recent bios update, any manufactured after the release of the 3000 series should have that update. The tomahawk max is one of the mobos that were made specifically to run the 3000 series, but i dont know enough about it to tell you if its bad or not. If you want a garantee, go 570. If you want to take a risk and get cheaper, or if you happen to have an older ryzen chip laying around, go b450 or 470. You should be able to get one that will work at this point but its not a 100% garrantee.

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the older ryzen chip can be used to update the bios.

quaint current Apr 15, 2020, 5:14 PM

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i'd get the b450 tuf pro

finite elm Apr 15, 2020, 5:46 PM

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How trustable is OlOy? When it comes to ram

main pulsar Apr 15, 2020, 5:48 PM

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theyre alright

finite elm Apr 15, 2020, 5:49 PM

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I'm looking at 3600mhz ram and theirs is much cheaper than gskillz and corsair

main pulsar Apr 15, 2020, 5:49 PM

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its a chinese company, but the ram dies themselves still come from reputable places

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but they look ugly

finite elm Apr 15, 2020, 5:49 PM

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They don't look terrible lol

main pulsar Apr 15, 2020, 5:50 PM

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is this for a ryzen build?

finite elm Apr 15, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Yes

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3900x

main pulsar Apr 15, 2020, 5:51 PM

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16gb?

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or more

hollow thorn Apr 15, 2020, 5:51 PM

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I don't trust OlOy, they havn't been around for too long

main pulsar Apr 15, 2020, 5:51 PM

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ive seen reviews, apparently theyre normal

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they oc like the rest of em too

finite elm Apr 15, 2020, 5:52 PM

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32 probably.

I have 32gb now, but I need to put that back in the other pc. Only took it out to boot this one up.

main pulsar Apr 15, 2020, 5:52 PM

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do you or the other pc absolutly need 32?

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how about 16 in one, 32 in the other?

finite elm Apr 15, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I do a bit of development in unreal and video editing

main pulsar Apr 15, 2020, 5:54 PM

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on both machines?

finite elm Apr 15, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Well I mean not currently no.

Just on one. The 32gb I have is 2666 mhz though

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Have been at a peak of 28gb ram usage, with it tanking the rest of the original PC lol

main pulsar Apr 15, 2020, 5:56 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/oloy-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820821223?&quicklink=true

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i dont see why not, its on sale for the next 13 hours

finite elm Apr 15, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Nice nice.

hollow thorn Apr 15, 2020, 5:58 PM

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at that price, I guess theres no other options

jaunty frost Apr 15, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Hey guys, I was looking at this MOBO and I seen it says it only supports to the 2000 series by Ryzen but few people saying it comes updated to support the 3000 series. Is that true? It's the Gigabyte B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) ATX AM4 Motherboard

hollow thorn Apr 15, 2020, 6:03 PM

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jaunty frost Apr 15, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Ah yeah I went on their website and it does say it but on Newegg it just shows that it supports up to the 2nd gen so I didn't know

hollow thorn Apr 15, 2020, 6:04 PM

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they probably didn't update newegg descriptions

jaunty frost Apr 15, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Probably. It's coming today so I'll update everyone but I just didn't see it until last second

dense owl Apr 15, 2020, 8:49 PM

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considering a potential upgrade my mobo and cpu
currently using the Gigabyte GA-H170M-DS3H and a Skylake i5-6500
since I'll also be needing to finally get win10
what are some more budget-minded options to look out for

finite elm Apr 15, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Ryzen 1600 AF or Ryzen 3600.

Then a b450 or a cheap x570 if you can find one on sale.

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@dense owl I just got myself a ASRock x570 phantom gaming 4 for just over 100$. But that sale is over now :(

dense owl Apr 15, 2020, 9:16 PM

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oh? hm...
I'll have to mark them down to look in to.

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I never really thought much about AMD vs Intel, tbh.
mainly concerned with getting the most for my money, regardless of the maker.

ionic hamlet Apr 15, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Right now, AMD has the better prices and there is very little difference in performance between them and Intel. The third gen of Ryzen chips was the moment AMD became a serious competitor in the CPU market again.

dense owl Apr 15, 2020, 9:39 PM

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fair enough.
I'm upgrading in sections
so I want to do mobo/cpu first, then ram, then gpu
this stimulus thing is giving me options
but I'm not going to blow my wad on a couple really expensive parts no matter how "great" they are.
if possible
I'd like to get a mobo/cpu together for less than us$350 but the more it's under us$300 the better.

ionic hamlet Apr 15, 2020, 9:54 PM

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That's why the recommendation for a Ryzen 1600 AF or Ryzen 3600. They are the budget options with good performance.

dense owl Apr 15, 2020, 9:54 PM

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👍

charred venture Apr 15, 2020, 10:14 PM

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if u can get to a Microcenter, they should still have the 20$ discount when u buy a board and a cpu in bundle

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so u can get 3600 + a good board for ~350

dense owl Apr 15, 2020, 10:18 PM

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unfortunately I'm in oklahoma and my vehicle isn't up for out-of-state trips, repairs to it is part of the reason I'm trying to keep tight on the budget.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

blissful nimbus Apr 15, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Hey everyone, I'm currently planning on doing a mini ITX build with a Ryzen 7 3700x. Does anyone have any recommendations on what motherboard to get?

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I was looking at X570 boards, but they're a bit expensive, so I started looking at B450 boards. From what I'm seeing right now, a lot of the boards are either sold out or overpriced right now. Any help is appreciated.

charred venture Apr 15, 2020, 10:59 PM

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3700x is kinda strong for a b450

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:21 PM

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is the Ryzen 5 3600X worth the extra $20 or is the Ryzen 5 3600 good enough

modern glacier Apr 15, 2020, 11:21 PM

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New to this discord and i hope i can find a memory compatibility to a motherboard anwser if anyone has the time?

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:21 PM

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what motherboard u using @modern glacier

modern glacier Apr 15, 2020, 11:22 PM

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A GA-990FXA-UD3

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:22 PM

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u want rgb memory ram or not?

modern glacier Apr 15, 2020, 11:23 PM

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RGB is something for my pc that i can do without

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:23 PM

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nice motherboard btw

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kk

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how much gb do u want

modern glacier Apr 15, 2020, 11:24 PM

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It has 4 slots and i currently only have one 8 gb stick in so im looking for 4

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:24 PM

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got it

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so mainly 32gb cause 64gb for memory is an outrageous amount right?

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here

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damn it can't text the link

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Corsair CMY32GX3M4A1600C9R Vengeance Pro 32GB (4x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) Desktop, Red 1.5V

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here dis is what im suggesting

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its $173 on amazon

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same on newegg

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but im suggesting getting a motherboard that supports ddr4 in the future since ur motherboard is sorta outdated

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but thats up 2 u

modern glacier Apr 15, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Definetly thats a plan for the future but not having a job puts a dent on my options xD what would i do once i buy the new ram and replace the stick i currently have? Im not tech savy at all

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:30 PM

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me neither im just a 13 yr old that loves pc lol

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cya

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oh wait i just read ur question

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umm

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so u take the ram sticks out of ur motherboard

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and then replace it with the new ones

worn plover Apr 15, 2020, 11:32 PM

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make sure it goes in the right way

modern glacier Apr 15, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Ok and are the ones you put it chat the correct pin count? Being new i dont like taking chances

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:33 PM

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ya line up the indent in the ram with the indent and then push it u should hear a click and then its good 2 go

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umm let me check

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yes it is correct since i check the memory ram i gave u on the chat has 240 pins and since ur motherboard is using the DIMM Sockets which has 240 number of positions it will work

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but just making sure don't buy any more than up to 32gb since ur motherboard only supports up to that much amount

crude path Apr 15, 2020, 11:42 PM

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it will not fit

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hold on

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:43 PM

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@crude path y?

crude path Apr 15, 2020, 11:43 PM

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you said the mother board is a GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3?

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:43 PM

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ya

crude path Apr 15, 2020, 11:44 PM

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that motherboard uses DDR3 ram.

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oh wait

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:44 PM

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yes the ram i told him is a ddr3

worn plover Apr 15, 2020, 11:44 PM

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what he sent was ddr3

crude path Apr 15, 2020, 11:44 PM

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I gogogled the name and it showed it in ddr4. I didnt know they had that same style in ddr3

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nevermind carry on 🙂

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:44 PM

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lol its ok we all make mistakes

crude path Apr 15, 2020, 11:44 PM

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any ddr3 ram will fit in that mobo

worn plover Apr 15, 2020, 11:45 PM

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yeah its all good

crude path Apr 15, 2020, 11:45 PM

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It only supports up to 32gb though so don't go higher than that.

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:45 PM

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i told him that

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but i mean who needs 64 gb memory ram???

crude path Apr 15, 2020, 11:45 PM

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many people apparently 🤷‍♂️

modern glacier Apr 15, 2020, 11:45 PM

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you guys are awesome i cant thank you enough:)

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:46 PM

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ur welcome

worn plover Apr 15, 2020, 11:46 PM

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do you have a RAM recommendation for a MPG X570 Gaming Edge WiFi?

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:46 PM

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umm

crude path Apr 15, 2020, 11:46 PM

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what cpu do you have

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:46 PM

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ryzen 5 3600

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don't judge im a 13 yr kid with a budget

crude path Apr 15, 2020, 11:47 PM

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G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory is usually what i tell people to get

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im not judging im running a 2600 🤷‍♂️

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:47 PM

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wait do u want rgb memory ram?

crude path Apr 15, 2020, 11:48 PM

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ripjaw V series is like the budget option where you're still getting good ram

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:49 PM

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im personally using the Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) CMW16GX4M2D3000C16 and i think it's a great option

worn plover Apr 15, 2020, 11:49 PM

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i have a ryzen 9 3900x, rgb ram is not a necessity

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:49 PM

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but it is on the more expensive side for a 16gb ram

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ok then

crude path Apr 15, 2020, 11:49 PM

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you should probably go for 3600 mhz then

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:49 PM

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ya

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if his/her motherboard supports it

worn plover Apr 15, 2020, 11:50 PM

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kk thanks, and does 64gigs make a huge difference

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:51 PM

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not rlly unless u download a crap ton of games

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im only using a 512gb mvme

worn plover Apr 15, 2020, 11:51 PM

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yeah same here

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:51 PM

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u got a pretty nice motherboard btw

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im using the msi b450 tomohak max

worn plover Apr 15, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Thank you, thats pretty good too

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:52 PM

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thx

worn plover Apr 15, 2020, 11:52 PM

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npo

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np*

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thanks for the input, cya

heavy temple Apr 15, 2020, 11:53 PM

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cya

tulip talon Apr 16, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Any one have any clue what this is?

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Company wise

hard star Apr 16, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Should I get a r5 3600 with my rtx 2070 super or upgrade it to r7 3700x?

hollow thorn Apr 16, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Gaming?

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@tulip talon the AIO?

tulip talon Apr 16, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Yep

hollow thorn Apr 16, 2020, 1:06 AM

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theres no markings so no idea

tulip talon Apr 16, 2020, 1:06 AM

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No clue my friends needs help if he can over lock or not but I doubt it

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It’s a i5 6700k with a one fan aio it would be dangerous right?

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It’s from 2 years ago too

hard star Apr 16, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Yes, gaming

hollow thorn Apr 16, 2020, 1:09 AM

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3600 is good enough

hard star Apr 16, 2020, 1:10 AM

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it won't bottleneck my 2070 super?

hollow thorn Apr 16, 2020, 1:12 AM

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not really

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single core perf is nearly the same between 3600 and 3700x

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and you don't need more than 6 cores for gaming

pallid jacinth Apr 16, 2020, 10:46 PM

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on the asus tuf b450 pro do i have to use ethernet cable to connect to wifi

cerulean nova Apr 16, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Yes you have to use ethernet or get a wifi card

pallid jacinth Apr 16, 2020, 11:32 PM

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ok what is a good wifi card

paper gull Apr 17, 2020, 12:07 AM

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what is the difference betwen Gigabyte GA-A320M-H and the Gigabyte GA-A320M-S2H V2

hollow thorn Apr 17, 2020, 12:39 AM

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why

pallid jacinth Apr 17, 2020, 12:43 AM

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what is a good wifi card for gaming

hollow basin Apr 17, 2020, 2:20 AM

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whatever is cheap and has good reviews

tacit hemlock Apr 17, 2020, 2:23 AM

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His question was answered in #building-and-recc-chat

gleaming orchid Apr 17, 2020, 3:24 AM

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I want to upgrade my current rig. I want to replace my outdated motherboard and graphics card with a more current model but need it to support Vista or Windows XP I have a few old games that will only run on these. Any advice or sugestion.

grim kettle Apr 17, 2020, 3:35 AM

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What cpu do I get I currently have a i7 8700

urban ferry Apr 17, 2020, 3:35 AM

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thats a good CPU

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id stay with it for now if gaming is the primary purpose

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i have an i7 8700, i use it daily and i can use it for streaming, gaming, VR, you name it

grim kettle Apr 17, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Ok

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What graphics card do you have

urban ferry Apr 17, 2020, 3:36 AM

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1070

muted roost Apr 17, 2020, 5:54 AM

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@gleaming orchid you can just create a Windows XP vm inside of windows 10

haughty patio Apr 17, 2020, 1:34 PM

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any idea when ryzen 4000 drops? looking to upgrade my cpu and get a new laptop

fickle warren Apr 17, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Anyone used the OLOy brand before? Looking for a set of RAM and it seems to be relatively cheap in comparison

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Just never used 'em

hollow thorn Apr 17, 2020, 1:57 PM

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@haughty patio should be Q4 this year

fickle warren Apr 17, 2020, 1:57 PM

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October is present rumor

worn plover Apr 17, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Yeah i have OLOy, it performs pretty well

fickle warren Apr 17, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Any notable drawbacks? I'm just trying to figure out why a set of 2x16GB 3000 is about $70 cheaper than other brands I'm more familiar with xD

worn plover Apr 17, 2020, 2:06 PM

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None that I have noticed, although It is pretty cheap.

fickle warren Apr 17, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Sounds good, I'll likely get them for this price and give it a fair shot then 😛

worn plover Apr 17, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Yeah 👍

naive pendant Apr 17, 2020, 4:19 PM

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im trying to get more ram in my laptop but i ccant figure out what are good sticks to buy anyone have an idea?? Needs ddr4

weak hamlet Apr 17, 2020, 4:25 PM

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https://www.crucial.com/store/systemscanner @naive pendant

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naive pendant Apr 17, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Thank you @weak hamlet

weak hamlet Apr 17, 2020, 4:27 PM

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crucial is my goto for laptop ram

grim kettle Apr 17, 2020, 6:43 PM

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It’s sad I can’t find Ansh Corsair vengeance pro ram in 3600mhz

noble jewel Apr 17, 2020, 9:29 PM

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best b450 MOBO for ryzen3600?? people keep telling me not to get tomahawk max but it seems to be the best option for around $100

quaint current Apr 17, 2020, 9:33 PM

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tuf pro is a good choice is its not stupid expensive or oos

noble jewel Apr 17, 2020, 9:34 PM

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https://store.asus.com/us/item/202003AM260000008/ASUS+TUF+B450-PRO+AMD+B450+ATX+gaming+motherboard+with+Aura+Sync+RGB+LED+lighting,+DDR4+4400MHz+support,+Dual+M.2,+and+native+USB+3.1+Gen+2.?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4pqS9rTw6AIVBp-fCh2f6g4hEAkYASABEgKnGfD_BwE

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ASUS TUF B450-PRO AMD B450 ATX gaming motherboard with Aura Sync RG...

ASUS TUF B450-PRO AMD B450 ATX gaming motherboard with Aura Sync RGB LED lighting DDR4 4400MHz support Dual M.2 and native USB 3.1 Gen 2., AMD AM4 socket Ready for 2nd and 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ processors, Onboard M.2 NVMe PCIe RAID support up to 32Gbps data transfer speed

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this one?

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@quaint current

quaint current Apr 17, 2020, 9:34 PM

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yea

noble jewel Apr 17, 2020, 9:34 PM

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better than tomahawk max?

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has 2 m.2 slots so thats better for sure

hollow thorn Apr 17, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Yes

quaint current Apr 17, 2020, 9:35 PM

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the tomahawk really only has vrms and bios support going for it, but nearly all of the b450 boards come with preflashed bios's

noble jewel Apr 17, 2020, 9:36 PM

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it says it supports up to 3533mhz memory speeds

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so does that mean getting 3600mhz ram is pointless?

hollow thorn Apr 17, 2020, 9:36 PM

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no

noble jewel Apr 17, 2020, 9:37 PM

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hmm ok then

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i think ill go with b450 tuf

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TY guys

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and Newegg will give you another board no charge if DOA? ive seen complaints of their return policies

hollow thorn Apr 17, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Well if you want it replaced, you contact the actual manufacturer for a RMA

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if you just want a refund, you go back to Newegg

noble jewel Apr 17, 2020, 9:43 PM

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ah okay

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3960401 for $10 more than i originally planned i can get 3600x instead of 3600 haha

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seems like a no brainer

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@hollow thorn thoughts?

hollow thorn Apr 17, 2020, 9:48 PM

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I mean

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sure

noble jewel Apr 17, 2020, 9:48 PM

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sorry for the pings but just want to check before i purchase rn

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i mostly mean that MOBO and CPU combo is great right?

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over tomahawk max

grim kettle Apr 17, 2020, 9:52 PM

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If I were to upgrade my i7 8700 no k what would I upgrade it to something that will last long and used for gaming/streaming/editing

mild jackal Apr 17, 2020, 9:58 PM

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3900x is a great pick at $420 on sale.

grim kettle Apr 17, 2020, 10:13 PM

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On sale where and what type of mother board will go good with it

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It’s 650 in Canada

ionic hamlet Apr 17, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I'm happy rolling with a 3600 for the moment

tacit hemlock Apr 17, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Its a great chip

final sandal Apr 18, 2020, 2:56 AM

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@hollow thorn do you actually have a 3990x and Titan rtx sli?

hollow thorn Apr 18, 2020, 2:58 AM

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no

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I'm meming because everyone has random specs in their name

midnight pollen Apr 18, 2020, 4:31 AM

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only in our dreams

long geyser Apr 18, 2020, 5:03 AM

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@hollow thorn No dual Epyc 7742 CPU setup? Pfft, pathetic

hollow thorn Apr 18, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Lol

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Can't you do 4 quadros in a multi GPU setup too? @long geyser

long geyser Apr 18, 2020, 5:06 AM

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you could probs do more

hollow thorn Apr 18, 2020, 5:10 AM

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I just remember LTT doing 4 in nvlink

main pulsar Apr 18, 2020, 5:11 AM

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i dont think nvlink does more than 2

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you can have 2 sets of nvlinked gpus tho

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or 4

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however many PCIe lanes you have is the limit lol

hollow thorn Apr 18, 2020, 5:11 AM

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I'm pretty sure they used 4 in a single nvlink config :p

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For their 16k gaming thing

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Or was it 8k, I don't remember

long geyser Apr 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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their 8k wasnt an SLI/nvlink, some quadro specific video link thing. 16k was nvlink I think

hollow thorn Apr 18, 2020, 5:14 AM

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It was called like Nvidia Mosaic

main pulsar Apr 18, 2020, 5:14 AM

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16k uses p5000s

hollow thorn Apr 18, 2020, 5:14 AM

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But that was the software piecing it together

main pulsar Apr 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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they dont doo nvlink

hollow thorn Apr 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Hmmm

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What did they use

main pulsar Apr 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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nothing

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they just put the gpus in da pc

long geyser Apr 18, 2020, 5:21 AM

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mosiac was in 16k, 8k idk. Just checked

potent wing Apr 18, 2020, 7:39 AM

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whats a good AMD board with lots of on board USB, ideal would be 8? I think my head is spinning from the research

naive pendant Apr 18, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Woah that’s a lot

hollow thorn Apr 18, 2020, 2:42 PM

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You can get a board with less USB, then get a PCIE USB card

gritty meadow Apr 18, 2020, 3:03 PM

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@potent wing only 8?

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that is a fairly low number

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something like the TUF B450M-Pro Gaming (which is a board we recommend a fair deal around here) has 12 available usb ports on the board

potent dew Apr 18, 2020, 4:33 PM

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So yesterday I tried to set XMP settings, and it decided not to, unless it doesn't run at XMP setting while using 8GB. Now I changed it to XMP Profile 1 and nothing is happening except that the RGB is working and the fans are going, any ideas?

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I can't see anything and my mouse and keyboard's RGB is off

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Nope DRAM light is on

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Any clue?

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Nvm

hollow thorn Apr 18, 2020, 4:42 PM

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it fixed itself?

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sometimes it takes a bit

naive pendant Apr 18, 2020, 4:59 PM

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I think they probably just got some advice to reset cmos

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Or something

potent dew Apr 18, 2020, 5:03 PM

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And it's doing to same thing again

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After is gave me PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

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And then DPC_Watchdog_Violation

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Now it says Attempting Repairs

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Now my keyboard and mouse are off again along with no display

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And the DRAM error light is back on

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And now the CPU RGB and fan are on default settings

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It's back

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I went to an older version

rocky flame Apr 18, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Any public tests that show that the higher the ram speed, the better AMD cpus run? I have always heard that the more mhz, the better the cpu's work, but have yet to see a test.

quaint current Apr 18, 2020, 5:32 PM

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its a kinda tricky answer, with a lot of variables like timing, IF (infinity fabric), blck

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3600mhz is preferred because the IF is already at 1800, which is nearly as high as it goes in 1:1 mode compared to 3200mhz's 1600. you could also take b-die kits or other low cl 3200mhz kits like cl14 and increase the IF to 1866 (the max), and/or tighten timings and increase mhz between 3200mhz and 3733mhz to get better performance than 3600mhz out of the box

forest viper Apr 18, 2020, 7:17 PM

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I'm looking to upgrade my pc and i was looking at a Ryzen 7 3700X, but i was just wondering if anyone knew of a good mobo i could get with it that isn't too expensive? I have a RTX 2070 Super if that matters for the mobo.

gritty meadow Apr 18, 2020, 7:22 PM

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the gpu does not matter for the mainboard choice

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@forest viper what kind of budget are you looking at?

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and do you need wifi?

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and what plug does your audio gear use? usb or minijack?

forest viper Apr 18, 2020, 7:25 PM

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I'm thinking like 150ish USD, i dont absolutely need wifi. and im just using some old Xbox one turtle beaches that use a headphone jack.

gritty meadow Apr 18, 2020, 7:25 PM

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hm

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"dont absolutely need wifi" <- but you would have a benefit from having it?

forest viper Apr 18, 2020, 7:26 PM

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i wouldn't benefit from wifi too much

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so i dont need wifi

gritty meadow Apr 18, 2020, 7:26 PM

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okay

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next question, got a specific requirement for the physical size of the mainboard?

forest viper Apr 18, 2020, 7:27 PM

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i was thinking midtower

gritty meadow Apr 18, 2020, 7:28 PM

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so in other words, you dont really care about the size of the mainboard itself?

forest viper Apr 18, 2020, 7:29 PM

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i just want to be able to have atleast two sticks of ram, a nvme ssd

gritty meadow Apr 18, 2020, 7:29 PM

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(this is not a bad thing)

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y3prxr/asus-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming

Asus TUF B450M-PRO GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

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thats the board for you then

forest viper Apr 18, 2020, 7:29 PM

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alright thanks

gritty meadow Apr 18, 2020, 7:29 PM

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np

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long story short: double m.2 slots, good sound chip. decent IO layout

forest viper Apr 18, 2020, 7:31 PM

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alright sounds good. so i would be able to have a WD black NVME ssd. dont know much about specs. i'm pretty new to putting PC's together

gritty meadow Apr 18, 2020, 7:32 PM

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aye

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please know/understand the following: There are no stupid questions, only silly answers

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so ask away

forest viper Apr 18, 2020, 7:33 PM

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alright thank you for your help, and quick responses, i'm think im going to get this mobo.

gritty meadow Apr 18, 2020, 7:34 PM

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you are very welcome :)

red flume Apr 18, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Hi, im planning on building a new PC and wanted to get a i7-9700k, i was just curious on what motherboard to get, i know it should be a Z390, just curious if there is a specific one i should look at

naive pendant Apr 18, 2020, 9:21 PM

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I have a Gigabyte Aorus Pro z390 and its pretty good

twilit quarry Apr 19, 2020, 12:51 AM

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can anyone link me some good RAM for a Ryzen 7 2700x? id like 16GB - 32GB money is no issue

tacit hemlock Apr 19, 2020, 1:40 AM

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If you dont need rgb this is a very respectable kit

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory

twilit quarry Apr 19, 2020, 1:52 AM

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thanks, appreciate it @tacit hemlock

tacit hemlock Apr 19, 2020, 1:55 AM

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No problem

wicked gorge Apr 19, 2020, 2:46 AM

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ryzen 7 2700x or ryzen 5 3600x? im trying to save some money on my build. and going down to the ryzen 5 3600x would save about 70$, is it worth the cut?

tacit hemlock Apr 19, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Well that depends on what your doing. If you just gaming than you don't even need a 3600x you could get a 3600 and save even more. However if you video editing, the more cores could be very useful in the 2700x

wicked gorge Apr 19, 2020, 2:50 AM

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ill be doing some 3d designs, for a side project (a little in house game for the cabin haha) thats about the most it be used for is light gaming, and designing it.

tacit hemlock Apr 19, 2020, 2:52 AM

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You might not want to hear this lol... but I would get the 3700x for like 30 bucks more at that point. It'll last longer and help more. But if you don't want to spend that then the 2700x should be fine

wicked gorge Apr 19, 2020, 2:53 AM

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haha i was just looking at that one as well, kinda figured someone might say that

tacit hemlock Apr 19, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Ya lol

wicked gorge Apr 19, 2020, 2:53 AM

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im building my own case so at least i can scrip there

tacit hemlock Apr 19, 2020, 2:55 AM

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Ok sounds good. I have to go to bed tho because its late and I have a headache but there's plenty of more people that will be willing to help with any other questions

wicked gorge Apr 19, 2020, 2:56 AM

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thanks bud! feel better

tacit hemlock Apr 19, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Ty

fringe crow Apr 19, 2020, 8:14 PM

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looking for budget or deals on x570 motherboards

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i looked at the ASRock Phantom Gaming 4 but that has very mixed reviews, so if anyone has any direction to point me in i’d be very appreciative

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looking to stay below $170

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also running 3700x with 16GB ddr4 3600 ram if that helps

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Please help me

gritty meadow Apr 19, 2020, 8:26 PM

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@hollow thorn could you take this one?

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Alright

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:28 PM

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ASUS AMD AM4 ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX Motherboard
AMD RYZEN 7 3800X 8-Core 3.9 GHz (4.5 GHz Max Boost)
Evga 1000w Power Supple (I've had it for years)

I've installed everything.
I've redone it 4 times.
Nothing powers on EXCEPT the RGB blacklight on the motherboard.
My case fans don't kick on either.
I'm worried I have a dead motherboard.

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I have ram and g card too but I'm removing them from the equation.

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There have been about 4 reviews of dead on arrival for this card.

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But I don't know what that means. Because the back light comes on.

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Does any other lights or anything come on?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Also, those lights come on the moment I flip the power switch on the power supply.
BEFORE hitting the power button on the case.

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Nothing does.

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Does it stay on?

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Or does the RGB turn on for a second and turn off?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:31 PM

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The RGB lights stay on.

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Have you tried jumping the motherboard instead of the power button?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:32 PM

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I tried, I did like a YouTube suggested I do. It didn't work. Although I'm not sure I did it right.

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Only mobo rgb turning on seems weird, any debug lights on that mobo?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:33 PM

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There's a code display. But nothing shows because nothing else comes on.

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I'm worried if this board is Dead on Arrival and because I didn't get any protection plan with the equipment that I'm going to be out three hundred bucks

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But I also don't know if it's really dead because those lights come on

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:34 PM

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If the board is DoA, you can get a RMA from the manufacturer. (Asus in this case)

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But I think it might be good to try some other things first

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Pardon my interruption here, i had to fix this problem for my friend, and make sure your cables coming from the power button are indeed in the correct locations and in the correct orientation

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:35 PM

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There are three that this motherboard needs 4-pin 8-pin and 24 pin

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I have all three

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Jump in at any time if you got something to say.

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Make sure all the connectors are plugged in all the way

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doublecheck everything

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Quadruple checked

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:36 PM

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and I assume the PSU has been used multiple times before and is confirmed to be working?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Yeah it was just working two nights ago when I took apart my old setup to begin this one

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Also, heres a quick GN short on how to jump the motherboard, you should try it again if possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuPZlliGqBw

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

How to Jump A Motherboard Without Power Button

This quick how-to shows how to jump-start a motherboard by bridging the power-on header, avoiding the need of a power button on the case.

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▶ Play video

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:37 PM

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The PSU fan does not begin turning at all either

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Which I don't know if that normally happens when I hit the power button

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:38 PM

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That could be normal, sometimes the default fan curve doesn't kick in until the PSU is at a certain temperature.

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 8:38 PM

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If your hitting the power button, and nothing is happening, it is likely saying that your cables that come from the case for the power button might not be correct

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:38 PM

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(that is why I'm suggesting jumping the motherboard instead of using the power button.)

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Very true

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:40 PM

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In about 5 minutes I'm going to attach a couple of pictures to continue with my question if that's okay

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Don't mind the dust buildup on the old build 🤪

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These were taken on the motherboard I had prior to this new one

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Just a warning, the server does not allow for you to attach photos until you are of a certain level on the server.

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:41 PM

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O

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Clyde just told me lol

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:41 PM

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You can tell when you are able to by your role color changing to blue

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like mine

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Okay so imagine this.
My old motherboard plugs were setup vertically for the power button.. Reset switch.. Etc.

| | | |

New ones are like this
_ _
_ _

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Doesn't like underscores?

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:43 PM

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lol

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:43 PM

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😂 I'm sorry

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 8:43 PM

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it trys to do a chat format i think

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:43 PM

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just give it a bit

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you can check your level in #ranks-and-levels

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 8:44 PM

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but i understand what you mean

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==== but bigger?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Instead of up and down its left to right.

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Yes

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Oh wait, like the front io cluster of connectors?

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Yes i believe that is what he is meaning

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:45 PM

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I don't think the orientation of that matters, as long as they're in the correct place.

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I.E. if one case groups a bunch of them together, and one doesn't, it shouldn't matter

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:45 PM

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I either am doing the Jumpstart wrong. Or it isn't working.

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 8:45 PM

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They do, my friend installed the power button io vertical instead of horizontal the one time and it wouldnt start until we switched it

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Are the io cables labeled as to what they are?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Yeah and I have them put in right.

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 8:48 PM

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what is the exact model of your power supply?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Evga 1000w gold power supply.
I don't know anything more

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 8:49 PM

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modular at all?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Ya

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 8:49 PM

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full or semi

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Uhhhh

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Are some cables in it perm or are they all plug in

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:50 PM

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All plug in

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 8:50 PM

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full mod

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:50 PM

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What does it say on the side of the PSU?

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G1, G2, G3?

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(I'm not too sure why the PSU would matter if it worked before, but maybe it can be useful)

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:51 PM

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It only gives me ac input DC output Max output combined wattage output power

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No G's

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Im wondering if maybe he has a 8pin plugged into a accessory slot instead of a main slot maybe because some are picky

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Not a great picture, but this is the kind of thing I'm talking about.

📎 IMG_20200419_155123.jpg

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:52 PM

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I have my 8pin coming out of a CPU port on the PSU

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 8:52 PM

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I have a G3 750w PSU.

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 8:52 PM

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and the 4 pin coming out of

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Yeah it looks just like that

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Also cpu

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That one is a split cable. It has 2 4pins

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 8:53 PM

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it sucks you cant send pictures yet

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Yes it does

long geyser Apr 19, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Use DM

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Only if they want

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It just bothers me so much. The RGB is lit on the board.
The rest won't turn fully on no matter what method I try. Power button or jumping it.

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 9:00 PM

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and the psu was working right before you pulled it out?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Yes

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 9:01 PM

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you have the ram in the motherboard?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 9:02 PM

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No

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New ram

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Is your mb in the case or out of the case?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 9:04 PM

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In the case

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 9:04 PM

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and you have all your fans plugged in or no?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 9:04 PM

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I do

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 9:05 PM

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well you can upload pictures now

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 9:05 PM

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None of them normally came on unless the rest could

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Okay those are the lights that are on.

📎 JPEG_20200419_170520.jpg

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📎 20200417_220639.jpg

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These go in this order now.

📎 JPEG_20200419_170616.jpg

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I have tried having them plugged in, print facing up and print facing down.

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Did you try and test start the motherboard without being in the case to see if the mb was good in the first place?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 9:09 PM

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No

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I never learned how to do that honestly.

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 9:10 PM

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It's just jumping the motherboard.

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 9:10 PM

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You are pretty much assembling the motherboard, and having it on its box and plugging it into the power supply

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Okay so jumping.... Didn't work. Although I don't know if what I did what right.

long geyser Apr 19, 2020, 9:11 PM

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What CPU and mobo?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 9:11 PM

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ASUS AMD AM4 ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX Motherboard
AMD RYZEN 7 3800X 8-Core 3.9 GHz (4.5 GHz Max Boost)

long geyser Apr 19, 2020, 9:12 PM

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So BIOS shouldn't be an issue

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Are you using the correct screws? stupid as it may sound?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 9:14 PM

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📎 20200419_171336.jpg

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 9:14 PM

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I'm starting to think the board might actually be DOA.

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 9:14 PM

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is that the same case you were using before?

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 9:14 PM

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📎 20200419_171432.jpg

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Using screw driver. Connect these?

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Should I talk to Asus next?

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Or just newegg

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Maybe, dont want to leave you stranded here, but i gotta go

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Thanks for the try man. I appreciate it.

reef bay Apr 19, 2020, 9:16 PM

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yep

hollow thorn Apr 19, 2020, 9:16 PM

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I would assume Asus

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https://www.asus.com/us/support/article/818

Online RMA Instructions

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But yes

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I would assume those 2

frigid whale Apr 19, 2020, 9:18 PM

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I appreciate you guys very much for the help.

neon crystal Apr 20, 2020, 3:05 AM

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yo

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What is the best ram for an i5-9400f

midnight pollen Apr 20, 2020, 3:09 AM

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@neon crystal something like this should be fine https://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2pk-x-8gb-3-2-ghz-ddr4-dram-desktop-memory-kit-black/4895506.p?skuId=4895506

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or along the lines of it

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best buy because it sold out on newegg

tacit hemlock Apr 20, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Seems pretty expensive for 3200

midnight pollen Apr 20, 2020, 2:17 PM

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prices have gone up

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oh actually it just went up, it was 76 yesterday

tacit hemlock Apr 20, 2020, 2:19 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232090?item=N82E16820232090&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-memory+(desktop+memory)-_-N82E16820232090&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=CjwKCAjwkPX0BRBKEiwA7THxiEbLQUnuYZuq8bK7-ozUv6pBlFpqggTwl6hoYcyE8JSzkoATsBAFgRoCMkQQAvD_BwE

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Same speeds lower price

teal sundial Apr 20, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Does any one here still use a 1600af? Does it work well?

ionic hamlet Apr 20, 2020, 4:10 PM

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I still can't believe the 3600 is out of stock.

tacit hemlock Apr 20, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Its not on newegg

strong lynx Apr 20, 2020, 4:54 PM

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because of xfr2, does the 2600X outpreform the 2700 in games?

hollow thorn Apr 20, 2020, 4:54 PM

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wtf is xfr2

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I'm pretty sure 2600x normally outperforms 2700 in games anyways

strong lynx Apr 20, 2020, 4:55 PM

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nvm, and ok thx

hollow thorn Apr 20, 2020, 4:56 PM

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like pbo2?

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wut

teal sundial Apr 20, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Is this mobo bad

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The pro m2 max

gritty meadow Apr 20, 2020, 9:20 PM

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it is decent

teal sundial Apr 20, 2020, 9:22 PM

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What is the difference from the pro vdh max

gritty meadow Apr 20, 2020, 9:22 PM

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see the "add to compare" button on their site?

teal sundial Apr 20, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Na I ordered it on amazon

gritty meadow Apr 20, 2020, 9:23 PM

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look on the manufacturers page

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always

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never, and i repeat, never trust a sellers information

teal sundial Apr 20, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Ok can u send me the like to the manufacturers page

gritty meadow Apr 20, 2020, 9:24 PM

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https://www.msi.com/comparison/motherboard/?unique=id1587417812903&compare_list=["QjQ1ME0tUFJPLU0yLU1BWA==","QjQ1ME0tUFJPLVZESC1NQVg="]

Motherboard - The world leader in motherboard design | MSI Global

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that is the relevant comparision you asked for

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ShriggaBoi999Today at 23:34
so my build is now pro m2 max, and ryzen 5 1600af is that still good AS THE PRO VDH MAX would be <- i got asked this

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its "close enough"

teal sundial Apr 20, 2020, 9:36 PM

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ok so i didnt make a tremendous mistake because my mom would be mad at me if i ask her for another 80 dollars because i bought the wrong mobo

gritty meadow Apr 20, 2020, 9:36 PM

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also, holy heck does discord ever butcher that previous link (it discards the ending ] )

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for all intents and purposes, those boards are just about identical, aside from the 2 ram slots

teal sundial Apr 20, 2020, 9:38 PM

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ok thanks for saving me from my mom

gritty meadow Apr 20, 2020, 9:38 PM

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np

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and best of luck :)

stuck parcel Apr 20, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Hey again! What motherboard brand would you recommend? With the ryzen 7 3700x and 2070super?

hollow thorn Apr 20, 2020, 9:52 PM

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What is the budget?

midnight pollen Apr 20, 2020, 9:52 PM

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I always like asus, although their boards can be a bit pricey

hollow thorn Apr 20, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Asus tuf b450 pro gaming is a great board

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MSI b450 tomahawk max is also a good board if the previous one is out of stock or smth

stuck parcel Apr 20, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Okay awesome! I’m okay with price I’m not super worried I just want something that will work very good!

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I’m looking at around 1500 for build. But I have wiggle room if needed

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Is this warning something to be worried about?
“Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.”

tacit hemlock Apr 20, 2020, 9:59 PM

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If your are buying the "b450 pro gaming board" that was mentioned earlier there is nothing to be worried about

stuck parcel Apr 20, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Yes I added the asus tuf b450 pro gaming and that’s what the warning for it was

tacit hemlock Apr 20, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Ok don't worry its fine. That bored ships with the updated bios. Pcpp just hasn't updated their spec on it

stuck parcel Apr 20, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Oh awesome! That’s great to know thank you!!

tacit hemlock Apr 20, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Np

gritty meadow Apr 20, 2020, 10:04 PM

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@stuck parcel for future reference, that warning is there for a reason. It just isnt valid for "that" particular board

tacit hemlock Apr 20, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Hi naed

gritty meadow Apr 20, 2020, 10:04 PM

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heya @tacit hemlock

stuck parcel Apr 20, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Okay 😊 I just wanted to double check if it was an issue! I’m getting close to having everything picked going off the list you made as well! Will be starting to order stuff soon!

gritty meadow Apr 20, 2020, 10:05 PM

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:)

stuck parcel Apr 20, 2020, 11:26 PM

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For ram what would be best? With what I have so far?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/brittanyames15/saved/bqk7XL

Build 1

hollow thorn Apr 20, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Ripjaw V 3600mhz cl16 kit

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2x8gb

stuck parcel Apr 20, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Do you happen to have the link for it? I’m looking and am not sure which one it is

hollow thorn Apr 20, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Oh one sec

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Here
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880

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oh wait

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there

stuck parcel Apr 20, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Okay perfect! That’s what I was thinking it was!

daring patio Apr 21, 2020, 2:48 AM

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So whats a good budget psu?

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RN im with phanteks

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perferably 550-650w for future upgrades

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budget: up to $100

hollow thorn Apr 21, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Enermax Revolution D.F

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110$ rn for 650w

daring patio Apr 21, 2020, 2:49 AM

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oops wrong channel who cares

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so

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 2:50 AM

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@daring patio fairly certain we covered this with you the other day :)

daring patio Apr 21, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Ik

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just finalizing on psu

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will my gpu bottleneck my cpu?

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probably not, but its a gtx1650 and a ryzen 5 3600

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 2:51 AM

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we generally dont make builds here that are bottlenecked as such

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and IF we do, we make it VERY clear that it is the customer (you in this case) that has forced us to do so, because of specific wishes

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so, no, your GPU wont bottleneck your CPU

daring patio Apr 21, 2020, 2:52 AM

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ok thx anyways

teal sundial Apr 21, 2020, 3:00 AM

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What are the top 2 micro atx mobos for my nr400 case

hollow thorn Apr 21, 2020, 3:01 AM

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For what CPU

teal sundial Apr 21, 2020, 3:01 AM

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1600af

hollow thorn Apr 21, 2020, 3:01 AM

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And what budget

teal sundial Apr 21, 2020, 3:01 AM

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70-90

hollow thorn Apr 21, 2020, 3:03 AM

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prob MSI B450M PRO-M2 MAX

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and if you can raise that to 100$, Asus tuf b450m pro gaming

teal sundial Apr 21, 2020, 3:05 AM

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I dm you the pic of the mobo tell me if that’s correct

hollow thorn Apr 21, 2020, 3:06 AM

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yes

grim grove Apr 21, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Hi guys

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Anyone here to help?

tacit hemlock Apr 21, 2020, 1:07 PM

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Ask your question first and people will be more likely to answer

grim grove Apr 21, 2020, 1:07 PM

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I had put it in #overclocking due to it being a question about Overclocking. sorry for the inconvience.

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@tacit hemlock sorry!

tacit hemlock Apr 21, 2020, 1:08 PM

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No need to apologize 👍

grim grove Apr 21, 2020, 1:10 PM

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🙂

narrow raft Apr 21, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Good morning. I need to get a new motherboard and was told to also get a cpu. What's the best way to find compatibility

tacit hemlock Apr 21, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Pcpp has a built in compatibility filter. You can also always check the manufacturer page for the motherboard

narrow raft Apr 21, 2020, 2:17 PM

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On it. Thanks

midnight pollen Apr 21, 2020, 2:17 PM

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if pcpp has a compatibility error something along the lines of "B450 might need a bios update to work with 3rd gen ryzen" It would probably not be an issue unless you are buying used

daring grove Apr 21, 2020, 2:18 PM

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I second pcpp. easy to use

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 2:19 PM

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@narrow raft when you have found the parts you think will work, please post a link to a pcpp list with them here, we might be able to offer insight/options that you are not aware of :)

narrow raft Apr 21, 2020, 2:20 PM

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:)

midnight pollen Apr 21, 2020, 2:20 PM

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(:)

tacit hemlock Apr 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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):(

split copper Apr 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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(:):(:):(:)

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 3:26 PM

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on behalf of @narrow raft https://pcpartpicker.com/list/frVFq3

System Builder

narrow raft Apr 21, 2020, 3:26 PM

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:)

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 3:31 PM

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This is what I have now. And I need a new Mobo and was told to get a cpu as well <- this was what you said @narrow raft

narrow raft Apr 21, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Confirmed

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 3:31 PM

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why do you need a new mobo?

narrow raft Apr 21, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Not working

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 3:33 PM

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ok

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and it has been confirmed to be "just" the mainboard that isnt working?

narrow raft Apr 21, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Yup

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 3:34 PM

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okay

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what is your budget like?

narrow raft Apr 21, 2020, 3:35 PM

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350-400

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 3:35 PM

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hmm

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let me just check something

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@narrow raft 280 will get you the bare absolute minimum

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however, do you by chance know someone that would be willing to buy your current ram?

narrow raft Apr 21, 2020, 3:40 PM

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Would have to check

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 3:40 PM

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because IF you went with that i am going to suggest, i would strongly suggest buying some ram too

narrow raft Apr 21, 2020, 3:41 PM

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I thought I had

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 3:42 PM

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hm?

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let me just clarify things then

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the list you sent me (and i posted above) the parts on it, those are what you currently have at home right?

narrow raft Apr 21, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Yup

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 3:43 PM

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okay

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bbpKdm <- this is what i would suggest then

System Builder

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notice, i have marked your previous parts as purchased

narrow raft Apr 21, 2020, 3:47 PM

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So add in the ripjaw mem

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 3:47 PM

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aye, because the amd cpu really likes that speed of ram

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the intel one is more "i dont really care" about ram speed

narrow raft Apr 21, 2020, 3:48 PM

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And then when setting up I would need to do some stuff with the bios

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 3:48 PM

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you are thinking of the warning at the bottom?

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that is not valid for that board

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its a generic warning

narrow raft Apr 21, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Oh okay. Cool

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 3:49 PM

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keep in mind, that board has a habit of bouncing in and out of stock many times a day

narrow raft Apr 21, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Thank you very much

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 3:52 PM

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you are very welcome @narrow raft

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best of luck with the upgrade :)

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@hollow thorn which reminds me: https://www.anandtech.com/show/15736/amd-ryzen-3-3300x-and-ryzen-3-3100-new-low-cost-quadcore-zen-2-processors-from-99 <- this is going to be interesting to see

AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and Ryzen 3 3100: New Low Cost Quad-Core Zen 2 Pr...

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because that is a fair amount of cores, for not a lot of money

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and yes yes, i know there is the AF and all that

hollow thorn Apr 21, 2020, 3:56 PM

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That's gonna take over the spot of 1600af eh?

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 3:56 PM

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not really

hollow thorn Apr 21, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Because 1600af is suggested for gaming builds, with iPC improvements of zen 2, I think it's worth for 100$.

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 3:57 PM

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it should be, question is the 4 vs 6 cores

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i am looking forward to the embargo lifting on the benchmarks on that

hollow thorn Apr 21, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Yea

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finally b550 soon?

📎 unknown.png

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there was that one pseudo-b550 board GN reviewed

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 4:01 PM

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b550a iirc

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and yes, it looks like the actual b550 boards will be here soonish

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i am looking forward to seeing the actual feature sets of them

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because they are going to be quite hard pressed with boards like the Pro Gaming being around

hollow thorn Apr 21, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Yea, they better bring more to the table than just pcie 4.0 :p

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 4:02 PM

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aye

hollow thorn Apr 21, 2020, 4:02 PM

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And prices... I heard leaks of intel z490 being crazy expensive, hope that doesn't happen with this generation of boards.

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 4:02 PM

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i cannot remember if the actual layout of the b550 has been posted yet (and i am too lazy atm to check)

hollow thorn Apr 21, 2020, 4:02 PM

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so am I xD

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 4:02 PM

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b550 cannot be "that" expensive

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because x570 puts a lid on the prices

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question is how far down they do go

hollow thorn Apr 21, 2020, 4:03 PM

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I mean, I just want the prices to be the same as b450 so we can start suggesting b550.

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 4:04 PM

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that would be nice

hollow thorn Apr 21, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Like sub 120 for most, and sub 100 for good boards. That's what I want to see.

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 4:04 PM

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oh yes

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i would really love to see a bunch of m-atx boards thou

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that could do wonders for that segment

hollow thorn Apr 21, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Maybe some ITX boards too

gritty meadow Apr 21, 2020, 4:04 PM

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aye, there will be 2-4 is my guess

outer hound Apr 21, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Hey guys need some help. I'm upgrading my 5 year old build. 4930k, rampage Iv mobo, r9 295x build.

Planning on going 3900x, Asus TUF x570, and 2070 super. Need help choosing which 2070 super to go for if I wanted max performance for under $550 and wondering if this ram I chose is good to a company the parts I've chosen so far.

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232491?item=N82E16820232491

I know it says Intel but it's confirmed to work with am4 and on the mobo I chose' QVL.

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Any opinions welcomed

grim grove Apr 21, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Hi, im buying a new graphics card: GIGABYTE GEFORCE RTX 2060 WINDFORCE OC 6G TURING GRAPHICS CARD , now im wondering whether if it would fit into my motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO Motherboard

hollow thorn Apr 21, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Yes

grim grove Apr 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Thanks!

mild birch Apr 22, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Maximus 8 hero....

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why is he buying that board

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is the real question

grim grove Apr 22, 2020, 12:05 AM

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lol why not

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@hollow thorn would it fit in there do you think

hollow thorn Apr 22, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Yes

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if you have a full ATX board

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theres no reason why it wouldn't fit

midnight pollen Apr 22, 2020, 12:19 AM

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6th gen intel with 20 series geforce is a bit of an odd mix but ok

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Its just temporary till he has the money for a cpu tho

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Should I sell my never used ryzen 5 3600 and pick up the ryzen 3 3300X when it comes out?

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Why

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Why would you do that

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:41 AM

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idk

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save money

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:41 AM

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I mean the 3300x is not as good so...

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And you already have one

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You'll lose money on the resale most likely too

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:43 AM

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yeah maybe

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i cant get my motherboard anyways so ugh

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maybe ill wait for the b550s

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:43 AM

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No reason to do that either

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:44 AM

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then the b450s will drop tho

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Well ya but your sentence sounded like you would buy a b550

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If you have to wait anyway then sure do that

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:44 AM

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would probably not sell out in 10 mins when the 550s drop

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Wdym?

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:45 AM

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ive been trying to buy tomahawk max for like 2 weeks and every time i get the notification they're in stock they're sold out by the time i get to checkout

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Well do yourself another favor and don't buy that board 😂

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:46 AM

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why not i like MSI boards

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Its not a great deal for what you get

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y3prxr/asus-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming

Asus TUF B450M-PRO GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

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This one is a lot better for price to performance

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And it just happens to be in stock

midnight pollen Apr 22, 2020, 2:47 AM

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because I like asus da_heck

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And I will control your mind to buy asus

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Brand loyalty at the expense of performance... smh

midnight pollen Apr 22, 2020, 2:48 AM

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I'm sure theo will agree with me

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hehe

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:49 AM

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well i wanted the 4 fan connectors with the max bc i was gonna add 2 fans as well

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:50 AM

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You can get splitters

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Fan headers shouldn't be the driving decision in buying a mobo

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:50 AM

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yeah

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no i know. just the little things i guess, decided to upgrade and just being picky is all lol

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Sure nothing wrong with that 😉

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I'm pretty picky myself

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:51 AM

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I like TUF too, my last board was a Sabertooth X79

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:51 AM

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I literally was gonna do the exact same thing as you and get the tomahawk max but people that know more than me helped me make a better decision

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I have the atx version of that tuf board

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:52 AM

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Yeah it was between the tomahawk max and that board you linked

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:52 AM

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Ok well put my vote in for the tuf😂
From what it seems it looks like you have time to decide

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Eh I've just been waiting for the Max to go back in stock but at this point I'm just on playing Spider-Man on PS4 for like the 6th time with a 3600 sitting in my desk drawer lol

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but im over it at this point I think I'm just gonna get the pro

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:54 AM

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Ya ik the wait can be frustrating

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:54 AM

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yeah it is i miss pc

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ok its done

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:55 AM

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What is?

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:55 AM

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i got the pro

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:55 AM

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Oh ok cool

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Enjoy!

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Assuming you have the other parts ofc

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Well I just bought the RAM with it so yeah all set haha

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Awesome

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Ordered the CPU like a week ago, just been sitting in my desk

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the dude I sold my old parts too got those OK so I was just waiting on that to pick stuff up

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:57 AM

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Oh not that long then. I bought mine like a month before the board

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:57 AM

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I messed up, I coulda either got the mobo or the cpu, went with the cpu because it was on sale at the time and it said the sale was ending in 2 days so i did that instead lol... still the same price

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Ya it stays the same price pretty consistently but I wouldnt call that a mess up because you got all it now

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 2:59 AM

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yeah its true

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uhh im pretty sure i declined the squaretrade warranty ffs

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should i cancel and place again or leave it lol

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hmmm

tacit hemlock Apr 22, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Ok i gtg to bed got a class early tomorrow hope you get everything workout out

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No harm in canceling it

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If you want the warranty at least

hollow thorn Apr 22, 2020, 3:16 AM

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I'm a big MSI fan

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but b450 board wise, Asus tuf b450m pro gaming is where it's at

dry burrow Apr 22, 2020, 3:17 AM

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yeah i just bought it

meager pecan Apr 22, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Bought a new CPU

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1600 AF

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Running Prime95 on small FFTs AVX off and it appears to only hit 3.5GHz all-core?

warped scroll Apr 22, 2020, 4:03 AM

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Maybe they just rounded the clockspeed?

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idk I have a 1600 af too but I've only monitored temps

meager pecan Apr 22, 2020, 4:03 AM

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Box says 3.6GHz

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apparently that is a single-core boost though

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📎 Screenshot_271.png

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it fluctuates between 3.5GHz and 3.525GHz but it's more often 3.5GHz (60-70% of the time)

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📎 Screenshot_272.png

meager pecan Apr 22, 2020, 5:39 AM

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📎 Screenshot_274.png

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I have no idea how to interpret these results

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seyana

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I'll set the all-core to 3.8GHz on a generous voltage and Prime95 still instacrashes

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I guess it's time to memtest

potent dew Apr 22, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Is it normal for all cores to run @5GHz on a R7 2700X?

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Not all the time

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but

midnight pollen Apr 22, 2020, 3:40 PM

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idk much about ryzen clocks but 5 seems a bit high, you not blasting voltage right? 👀

hollow thorn Apr 22, 2020, 3:50 PM

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no

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thats not normal

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@potent dew you mean 4ghz?

potent dew Apr 22, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Nope

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5

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📎 unknown.png

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And I opened it when I started doing school work

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That's the highest

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HWMonitor

hollow thorn Apr 22, 2020, 3:56 PM

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open up ryzen master

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hwmonitor might've been the one that was unreliable

potent dew Apr 22, 2020, 3:57 PM

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I didn't overclock

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So I don't have it

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getting it

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Okay all the cores are running at over 4GHz rn

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I'll wait for it to show the highest

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4.5GHz with a few things running

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Which is what HWMonitor shows

hollow thorn Apr 22, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Ryzen master is more reliable

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I dont really trust HWMonitor

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Actually CPUZ might be most reliable

potent dew Apr 22, 2020, 4:06 PM

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It seems to run over 4GHz most of the time

hollow thorn Apr 22, 2020, 4:06 PM

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...

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use CPUZ?

potent dew Apr 22, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Yeah

hollow thorn Apr 22, 2020, 4:07 PM

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4ghz is normal

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5ghz is not

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take a screenshot of cpuz if possible

potent dew Apr 22, 2020, 4:09 PM

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The entire thing?

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📎 unknown.png

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Doesn;t go below 4GHz

hollow thorn Apr 22, 2020, 4:10 PM

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yea that makes sense

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42.5

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thats normal

potent dew Apr 22, 2020, 4:11 PM

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With Discord, Chrome, and Spotify open

hollow thorn Apr 22, 2020, 4:11 PM

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don't worry about that

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multiplier tells you max

potent dew Apr 22, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Okay

warm path Apr 22, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Is the Arctic Silver 5 a good thermal paste?

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If not can you give me suggestions

smoky summit Apr 22, 2020, 8:10 PM

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📎 Cattura2.PNG

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That is my pc

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That tops at 100% just with task manager opened

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Sorry if the text are Italian

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I'm too lazy to change them

warped scroll Apr 22, 2020, 10:04 PM

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@warm path

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It's not the best out there

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Go with Arctic MX-4 instead

warm path Apr 22, 2020, 11:42 PM

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ah ok

neon crystal Apr 23, 2020, 7:35 AM

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@warped scroll whats your cpu

tawny surge Apr 23, 2020, 1:48 PM

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can anyone help me upgrade my bios

hollow thorn Apr 23, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Update?

wild spruce Apr 23, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Hey, I have a question about MOBO and PSU compatibility.. I'm pretty new to pc building so go easy haha

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Is there a reason why this is saying its compatible on partpicker but says this?

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The MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the Corsair CXM 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply does not. This connector is used to supply additional 12V current to the motherboard. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands such as extreme overclocking or large video card current draws may require it.

tacit hemlock Apr 23, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Well you can solve that problem by not getting that psu😉

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But in all seriousness that's not the best psu to get. CXM has coil whine. Try to find a phanteks amp in stock or I think that there's a good one by Enermax which mr1111 or hei know

hollow thorn Apr 23, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Enermax Revolution D.F.

tacit hemlock Apr 23, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Ty

hollow thorn Apr 23, 2020, 3:30 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PB67ZS7/ref=twister_B07PK5RTXN?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

wild spruce Apr 23, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Yeah I was trying a bunch of PSU's but i wasnt sure if it would make a huge difference, thanks guys 🙂

warped scroll Apr 23, 2020, 4:22 PM

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@neon crystal
I have the Ryzen 5 1600 AF

queen goblet Apr 23, 2020, 9:27 PM

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the artic master sports duo pro does not fit a b-450 MB. dont waste 50$ on it bc they say it does. i emailed them asking if i didnt get the right hardware a month ago and still no answer. as nice as it looks and would be to have i have to send it back to newegg :/

left edge Apr 24, 2020, 12:04 AM

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How can you tell if a cpu is dying because I have a Ryzen 7 2700x with green screening and hanging

midnight pollen Apr 24, 2020, 12:05 AM

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artifacts like discoloring on the screen would probably be more related to the gpu

tawny surge Apr 24, 2020, 12:06 AM

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It probable wont be a graphics problem if your using a card

hollow thorn Apr 24, 2020, 12:42 AM

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what

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Green screening and hanging are likely graphics issue

balmy wadi Apr 24, 2020, 12:54 AM

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I am about to upgrade my cpu but I have no Idea which cpu I should buy... Can anyone help?

warped scroll Apr 24, 2020, 1:08 AM

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What cpu do you have now

balmy wadi Apr 24, 2020, 1:13 AM

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@warped scroll intel Core i3-8100

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On an MSI Z370 Plus LGA 1151 mobo... My gc is a GTX 1060 6gb & my power supply is a EVGA 500 w

warped scroll Apr 24, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Hmm 8100 is still pretty okay.
What’s your budget @balmy wadi

balmy wadi Apr 24, 2020, 1:58 AM

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@warped scroll Yeah the 8100 doesn't give me any problems but I've had it since 2018 lol, My budget is $1,000

warped scroll Apr 24, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Whoa just for a cpu upgrade?

balmy wadi Apr 24, 2020, 2:03 AM

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@warped scroll Plus anything else that I might need to upgrade... I was going to build a different PC but decided to upgrade instead.

tacit hemlock Apr 24, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Well if your feeling ambitious, your best bet would probably be to switch platforms to ryzen, that way you can fit a new gpu in there too

long geyser Apr 24, 2020, 2:20 AM

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I mean with that much money, any Intel upgrade would be the same amount as switching to Ryzen equivalent would it not?

balmy wadi Apr 24, 2020, 2:20 AM

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@tacit hemlock If I switch to ryzen do I have to replace the mobo too? (sorry if that's a noob question I know nothing about PC's)

tacit hemlock Apr 24, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Yes you would have to

rough citrus Apr 24, 2020, 2:20 AM

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intel cpu = intel motherboard

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Ryzen cpu = Amd ryzen motherboard

balmy wadi Apr 24, 2020, 2:21 AM

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@rough citrus gotcha!

rough citrus Apr 24, 2020, 2:21 AM

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i havent got issue with my ryzen since 2017. my 1st ryzen is still kicking ass at 2k gaming.

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lol

tacit hemlock Apr 24, 2020, 2:21 AM

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@long geyser ok your right. For some reason I assumed Cali was buying a new mobo

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So change of plans. I would get a new Intel chip and gpu. Do you plan to be streaming or doing anything that would require more cores? @balmy wadi

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Also depending on the psu you might need a new one of those too

balmy wadi Apr 24, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Well I built this pc in 2018 and it hasn't given me any problems yet

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@tacit hemlock Currently I have an intel Core i3-8100 on a MSI Z370 Plus LGA 1151 mobo... My gc is a GTX 1060 6gb & my power supply is a EVGA 500 w

long geyser Apr 24, 2020, 2:24 AM

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What specific EVGA model?

tacit hemlock Apr 24, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Do you have anymore details on the psu?

long geyser Apr 24, 2020, 2:24 AM

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PSU quality and problems go on a lot more then just wattage and rating

rough citrus Apr 24, 2020, 2:25 AM

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that depend on what you plan to upgrade.. are you planning to play games on 2k or just stay with 1080 resolution?

balmy wadi Apr 24, 2020, 2:25 AM

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EVGA 500 B1 100-B1-0500-KR 80+ BRONZE 500W

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@tacit hemlock I currently stream xbox with this pc just fine... but only through the elgato hd60s capture card. My cpu is 4 core.

tacit hemlock Apr 24, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Ok in what area do you primarily want to improve performance

balmy wadi Apr 24, 2020, 2:31 AM

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@tacit hemlock I really wanted to get a new cpu but I don't know which one.

mild jackal Apr 24, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Budget?

tacit hemlock Apr 24, 2020, 2:32 AM

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1000 usd

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Lol

mild jackal Apr 24, 2020, 2:33 AM

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On total build?

tacit hemlock Apr 24, 2020, 2:33 AM

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On all upgrades yes

mild jackal Apr 24, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Go with a 3600 if you're a gamer, 3900x if pure content creator

tacit hemlock Apr 24, 2020, 2:33 AM

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But they're on a intel platform rn

long geyser Apr 24, 2020, 2:33 AM

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upgrade that PSU, tis is group regulated with bad voltage regulation

tacit hemlock Apr 24, 2020, 2:33 AM

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So need a new board and most likely new ram

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And psu lol

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I want to go to bed tho lol. Can you guys answer anymore question?

balmy wadi Apr 24, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Okay thanks for all the info! I'll be back with a pc part picker list in the a.m.

rough citrus Apr 24, 2020, 2:41 AM

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oh right.

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do i have to go with x570 or use my x370 for 3xxx cpu?

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on a facebook committy, they said that it will put a pressure on my x370

mild jackal Apr 24, 2020, 2:43 AM

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To avoid future troubleshooting headaches - I'd just go x570 and ebay that x370

rough citrus Apr 24, 2020, 2:44 AM

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i love gigabyte but they have too many x570

mild jackal Apr 24, 2020, 2:46 AM

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idk - they cover the practical market segments thoroughly.

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Intender and I use an x570 master, box has a x570 gaming x? edge?

rough citrus Apr 24, 2020, 2:47 AM

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im gonna go with wifi version since it have a bluetooth onboard

edgy abyss Apr 24, 2020, 3:07 AM

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hey i know that support is probably where i should contact for this, but my friend just bought a ryzen 5 3600, accidently messed up the shipping add. and hasn't been able to get in contact with support. Is live chat down or is it just being overwhelmed?

ocean delta Apr 24, 2020, 2:02 PM

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I'm having this pop up with most motherboards and I would like to know if it is a s

📎 Screenshot_20200424-085157.png

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I'm having this pop up with most motherboards and I would like to know if it is a big deal as it phrases

📎 Screenshot_20200424-085157.png

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Here's the partlist if it helps
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGXwK4

System Builder

ocean delta Apr 24, 2020, 2:53 PM

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I realized that it is phrases bad I mean is that I have the most of the parts on the list including the motherboard but not the power supply and I'm trying to find one that works well with the parts I have bought

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 3:18 PM

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@ocean delta that list looks real familiar

ocean delta Apr 24, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Hey naed yes I know but the battery was sold out I'm still planning to get it but I'm looking at what was available

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 4:06 PM

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@ocean delta battery?

ocean delta Apr 24, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Power supply

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My bad

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@gritty meadow

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 4:10 PM

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ah

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power supply can be fixed easily enough, its just a question of waiting :)

ocean delta Apr 24, 2020, 4:35 PM

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I'm just wondering what the note the site said means

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@gritty meadow

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 4:37 PM

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your mainboard has a "extra" CPU power plug, that is mainly used in regards to overclocking

ocean delta Apr 24, 2020, 4:41 PM

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So it don't really matter for me cause I won't overclock mine

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 4:45 PM

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basically yes

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if the board follows the spec, it should NOT need that extra connector

ocean delta Apr 24, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Understood

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Thank you

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Also I really like the case you got better taste than me

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 5:12 PM

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i just really like building in that case

ocean delta Apr 24, 2020, 5:12 PM

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It's a nice case

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Also this is the power supply I bought is it a good one for the build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v6qBD3/evga-supernova-ga-550-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-ga-0550-x1

EVGA SuperNOVA GA 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power ...

hollow thorn Apr 24, 2020, 5:16 PM

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its alright

ocean delta Apr 24, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Thank you

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I'm not too cockyas to not ask for information on stuff that I don't know I just don't wanna mess up with parts being bad and stuff

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Now all I gotta get is that graphics card and a windows key

tacit hemlock Apr 24, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Windows key is the easy part

daring patio Apr 24, 2020, 5:20 PM

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yeah

ocean delta Apr 24, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Wasn't it like just go to eBay and buy one right?

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Or am I mistaken?

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 5:27 PM

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there are options

sand spoke Apr 24, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I bought an nzxt H210 case which has usb c on the front panel. My motherboard doesnt have a gen 2 header. What kind of adapter would work. My mobo is an ASUS B450-i

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https://www.newegg.com/p/17Z-0054-00085?Item=9SIA2RPB943291

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would this work

left root Apr 24, 2020, 8:09 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T4M4XPG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

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is this a good mobo

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 8:21 PM

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its decent

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Hello forum....I need help buying a laptop...I returned an Asus gaming laptop to a local retailer because according to Asus, that machine only works with Windows 10. Is there another Asus gaming laptop at a reasonable price that someone here can point me to?

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 8:39 PM

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what makes the windows 10 requirement a deal breaker for you @royal kraken

midnight pollen Apr 24, 2020, 8:41 PM

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pretty much any prebuilt will say only windows 10, that does not make is necessarily true tho. What os are you planning on using?

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 8:41 PM

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well i am not really a windows user...besides work...i haven't owned a windows machine since windows 95

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FreeBSD is the OS I wanted to add or remove Windows 10 all together

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 8:42 PM

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fairly certain that what Asus support told is the following: we only support (customer) requests on windows 10

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 8:42 PM

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hang on i will copy and paste that part of the email

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 8:43 PM

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because there isnt anything as such that prevents most modern hardware from working in any *nix

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 8:44 PM

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What was the OS you're trying to boot from your USB? I was notified that unless it's Windows 10 it would not work.

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The BIOS would not show any other media to boot from

weak hamlet Apr 24, 2020, 8:45 PM

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sorry the bot snagged your link

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hang tight

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 8:45 PM

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got it

weak hamlet Apr 24, 2020, 8:45 PM

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📎 unknown.png

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 8:46 PM

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because you have to enable "non-windows" boot loaders

weak hamlet Apr 24, 2020, 8:46 PM

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that's all I got.

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 8:46 PM

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in the bios that is

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 8:46 PM

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that is..thanks

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What was the OS you're trying to boot from your USB? I was notified that unless it's Windows 10 it would not work.

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that was the message before "best regards and such"

weak hamlet Apr 24, 2020, 8:47 PM

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ah

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 8:47 PM

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I found a tutorial on youtube but it was for BIOS version 302 while mine was 306

left root Apr 24, 2020, 8:48 PM

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@gritty meadow any tips on installing os

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or the first start

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 8:48 PM

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you remember what model your laptop was @royal kraken ?

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Naed, that option was on there

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sorry just saw your message

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G531GT

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Naed, I meant to say the option to turn on other OS visibility was not on that BIOS

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 8:50 PM

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you got the rest of the model number?

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because what you have is the "generic" part

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 8:50 PM

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I am not a genius but I not a newbie around OS or programming

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 8:50 PM

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it is sometimes "hidden"

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 8:50 PM

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no since i returned it today

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 8:51 PM

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shame

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 8:51 PM

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I can find the serial number

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 8:51 PM

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anyway, it was mainly curiosity :)

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doesnt matter much :)

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 8:51 PM

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hang on bestbuy site

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ASUS - ROG G531GT 15.6" Gaming Laptop - Intel Core i7 - 8GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 - 512GB Solid State Drive - Black

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there

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oops the link wouldn't stay

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 8:53 PM

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@weak hamlet could you fix up @royal kraken with permissions?

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its our bot eating new users links :)

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to prevent spam