graphics-cards

[fading glacier]

ddr5 still not cheap

nor good

im still savin for the end of the year

need an upgrade from my 4770 but still waiting on am5 and raptor lake to make a choice

same

i mean, the part where ill hold on the new rig for years to come

crossing fingers

sadly gen 14th is lga 1900 or something

so raptor lake will be the last cpu for those boards

but until zen4 reach the reviewers, im holding my pennies... but im almost positive on raptor lake for my new rig, hopefully by november

+3060ti... set for 4 to 6 years

gpus need to catch up with the cpus

that should be sad

even with mine im playing at 1440

[cosmic bluff]

This was me for 6 months

[hasty sphinx]

So a 13900k and 6950xt/3080ti should last me close to 5 years yeah?

[livid idol]

3-5 at least depending on how fast game development goes

[lone pond]

is it safe to set the power draw on the Gigabyte 6900XT OC to 525W?

[heady turtle]

Yes

[lofty rampart]

does anyone know anything about the radeon pro wx 3200

cuz i cant find anything about it

well barely

[lone pond]

what should I set the GFX and SoC to?

[heady turtle]

Ugh idk haven't looked at safe voltages for 6950xt, the #overclocking channel or hardware bot server might be a bit more helpful for this kind of thing

[magic wing]

afaik u can set it here to whatever u want, its just limits... doesnt eman itll actually use that much, just that u will be manually able to tell it to use that much

[lone pond]

I mean fair enough ig

so it goes back to the whole idea mentioned by 2cents that only adding more voltage is what will damage your gpu?

[round basalt]

Hello all. I just bought a GeForce RTX 3050 and it didn't come with a cable to plug it into my power supply. I tried some stock cables and they don't fit. I have an Enermax ERX750AWT-DP power supply. What cable do I need? The people at NewEgg couldn't tell me. Thanks!

[heady turtle]

Gpus don't come with cables, it will connect to the pcie power cable on your power supply, it's probably a 6 pin with a 2 pin connector attached to it to make 8 pin

[round basalt]

Nope, there's no cable...https://www.enermax.com/en/products/enermax-gold-750w--oem-

I assume it goes in the red area marked "GPU" but it's 12 pin! I can't find a 12-pin cable anywhere.

[heady turtle]

Do you not have pcie cables that came with the power supply?

[round basalt]

Nope. There are no extra cables that came with it.

[heady turtle]

When did you buy the power supply? And from where?

You might be able to return it if not you'll need to contact enermax about sending you out the pcie cables

[round basalt]

Sweetwater...it's a Sweetwater Creation Station. I contacted them and they couldn't help either.

[heady turtle]

Who?

Probably need to contact enermax anyway then

[round basalt]

Hmm okay I'll try to do that, then.

[heady turtle]

Sounds like a poor pc, creation station that doesn't even come with pcie power

[round basalt]

Nah it's a great computer, but just thought I'd upgrade the GPU so I can use it for gaming. It works amazingly well for work!

[heady turtle]

Did it not have a gpu in the first place

[round basalt]

It did not; it's an audio PC so it didn't need one.

I just started FFXIV and it was a little slow so I thought it needed an upgrade.

[vital oriole]

Oh

Prebuilt moment

I don't know why they choose to not give cables that people should have when they buy the parts themselves lol

[heady turtle]

Like what in the world is gonna require 750w of power from just cpu motherboard and sata lol

[vital oriole]

That too

[hot folio]

…why would you buy a PSU from an audio sales website?

[vital oriole]

It's a whole prebuilt

[hot folio]

Still tho

I shop from them all the time and sure they’re great but their selection of PCs is still pretty bad as in 5 models to choose from and all of them are overpriced

I really hope you’re actually putting the PC into a rack and not just using it as if it was a desktop

[vital oriole]

lol

[hot folio]

(They only sell rack mounted PCs)

Cheapest one is around 2k and has a 10600k with no GPU and 16gb of ram

[magic wing]

💀

[hot folio]

We love the audio tax

[magic wing]

This is the one time im gonna say- just get a mac mini and use GarageBand

[hot folio]

Oh hell no

GarageBand is hot ass for anything more than just screwing around

Mac mini I agree with tho

Logic Pro X is best for mac kind of why I want to buy a mac

[magic wing]

U saying my ass is hot?

https://tenor.com/view/feliz-alegre-sorriso-burro-gif-14645687

[hot folio]

Oh you know it 😘

[hasty sphinx]

hey now..

[hasty sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/grrr-bambi-cute-angry-gif-13414190

[magic wing]

OwO

[tacit inlet]

[magic wing]

the donkey from shrek is pg13

what ass did u think we spoke of

smh

[hot folio]

smh

[lofty hornet]

Anyone have a Gpu recommendation to run civilization 6 at ultra settings

[keen nacelle]

depends on how much you want to spend

[lofty hornet]

500-800

[keen nacelle]

6700xt, 3060 ti, 3070

[lofty hornet]

Oooo

I was looking at a power cooler red devil 6750xt

But I’m not gonna lie

I kinda want to match there gpu with the mobo

[keen nacelle]

yeah forgot to say that one

6800xt also an option actually

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/336qqs/sapphire-radeon-rx-6800-xt-16-gb-pulse-video-card-11304-03-20g though with tax itll be over

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XZmmP6/powercolor-radeon-rx-6750-xt-12-gb-red-devil-oc-video-card-axrx-6750xt-12gbd6-3dheoc not a terrible price for a 6750xt

[lofty hornet]

Yeah that the most I’ll spend tax included

Either of those two will be a huge leap from what I have been using to play civilization 6

[zealous sky]

can anyone in here help me with installing drivers from nvidia every time I try to do it it says not compatible with this version of windows 10

[livid idol]

For which GPU?

[zealous sky]

3050

im lost man

every time i try to download the new drivers it gives me that error code

[livid idol]

Update your windows to the latest version

[zealous sky]

when I check it says no updates

[livid idol]

What version are you on?

[zealous sky]

windows 10 19044

[livid idol]

Insider build? That might be the problem

[zealous sky]

should my display adapters say 32 or 64?

i Built it

[livid idol]

Version 22H1 is out so you'll want to download the upgrade assistant and use that

Your build is from November, that's April

[zealous sky]

so I need to update windows to be able to install the drivers

Can I do that from the window media tool and do it from A usb drive?

[livid idol]

Yes, that's what the error message means. It's not validated with that version of windows.

Yes you can use the regular media creation tool and do an upgrade install

[zealous sky]

I think I understand now I just didnt want to upgrade it and it not work I also didnt know if i had an upgrade or not

[livid idol]

Worst case you need to reinstall a few programs when you upgrade. It should work, and if not you can roll back.

[zealous sky]

So in summary I just need to upgrade windows to 64 (make sure the display says 64) ... I can do that by using the media tool and download it a usb and update it from there

after the widows update it should be able to install the drivers

Also I apologize for the dumb questions this is my first build I am very new to this

[livid idol]

Correct you want 64 bit, 32 bit is basically dead since it can only use less than 4gb ram.

[zealous sky]

What I am confused about is when I check my system info it says 64..... but when I look under the display tab it says 32

[livid idol]

Drivers and programs can still run in 32 bit mode on 64 bit systems. Only 16 bit programs won't work on 64 bit, mostly stuff from the 90s.

[zealous sky]

So im upgrading from a amd 570 4gb to nvidia 3050 8gb.... so this whole time its been on 32 but in order for the new graphics card to work it has to be 64

This whole time I thought it was 64 lol

so my system is capable of 64 but is currently only 32 correct?

thankyou for your help

[livid idol]

You probably just have the 32 bit driver for the AMD card, it doesn't hurt anything. 64 bit is just preferred.

As long as the system is 64 bit you're good

[open cave]

is the rtx 3050 a good graphics card to buy?

[fading glacier]

depends on the price

[open cave]

well i found a 3050 on best buy for $350

[livid idol]

No

You can get a 3060 for $400 super easy, maybe less

[open cave]

true

[fading glacier]

and a 60ti for 450

[tropic remnant]

That one for 250 never gets restocked

[livid idol]

B-stock

[tropic remnant]

I rarely see b-stock for anything lower than a 3070

[tribal raft]

waht would you think a 4060 would go for price at msrp

[livid idol]

Really? I see 3060 sometimes

[tropic remnant]

450

[livid idol]

No idea on 4000 prices. Even AIB partners are in the dark.

[tribal raft]

if you were to make an educated guess

waht would it be

[livid idol]

$400-500 MSRP

More for AIB models

[tribal raft]

hmm ok

ty

[tropic remnant]

A 4060 anyways would be like a 3060 Ti/3070

[livid idol]

There's no leaks for that yet so we have no way of knowing. It'll be January at the earliest.

[ivory herald]

Yea nvidia is probably w/ the "cheap" FE msrp and higher aib thing. btw they start w/ higher-end so 4060 is probably black friday at the earliest, who knows.

[tribal raft]

i would just use an ipgu until i could get it which owuldnt be much different from the intel hd graphics that im using rn

[tropic remnant]

Well sometimes Nvidia makes massive jumps in performances and other times they are only slightly better than their counterpart

Meaning that a 980 was like a 1060 and then a 1650 Super was like a 1060

[livid idol]

Next gen high end looks like a large jump but also a large power increase. No idea what midrange looks like.

[tropic remnant]

Would be messed up if a 4080 was like 1000$ and performs almost like a 3090 Ti lol

[livid idol]

Nvidia is claiming 4090 to be double the 3090

Double what, they haven't said

[ivory herald]

We might as well double 3080 Ti w/ how the 3090 is (aka not much better). although I'm thinking 80% at best and more likely 50% better. Leaks could mean 2x better in just certain tasks they've mean messing with. 10 series though slapped around 900 series & vega 56/64

[vital oriole]

probably double in rt

nvidia has been using rt as their prime marketing material

[tropic remnant]

Well according to the EVGA site for new cards the 250$ model never gets stocked up again i know cause i always check for people

[vital oriole]

3060 is better deal lol

wait no, that 3050 is 329

kinda sad

[tropic remnant]

Who said anything about bot servers?

[livid idol]

I was thinking double would be more along the lines of FP64 speed

[vital oriole]

Perhaps

Gaming I'd expect 50% increase at best

Just a guesstimation

[tropic remnant]

That isn't what i think though

[livid idol]

I agree, best case scenario. All that extra power (500W stock tdp) has to be good for something.

[vital oriole]

ye

[ivory herald]

Will be neat to cut em down 20% give or take w/ undervolting or w/e and see if they can only lose 5% performance.

[carmine crest]

I remember picking mine 3050 for 229 from evga nice deal that day

[tall lichen]

What's a good GPU for a 550w PSU

[keen nacelle]

depends on your budget

youd be fine to run a 3060 ti/6700xt, maybe 3070 or 6750xt depending on your cpu

[tall lichen]

Let's say around up to $400

And I have an i5 9600k

Although I do have one of those PCI 3.0 boards

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QRwypg/msi-radeon-rx-6600-xt-8-gb-mech-2x-oc-video-card-rx6600xt-mech2x-8goc

[carmine crest]

Eh I’d say 3060 or 3060ti

Not a 3070 because power budget goes too high.

[keen nacelle]

Gl getting a 3060 ti for$400 lol

[keen nacelle]

There's 2 pin 3070s

[carmine crest]

You will kill the power supply real fast

[tall lichen]

Yeah but I didn't say I wanted a 3060

[carmine crest]

That’s 300 watts

[keen nacelle]

Yes

[carmine crest]

Have the cpu going while gaming is another 80-100

[keen nacelle]

With a low tdp cpu, you're fine

[carmine crest]

Does he have a low tdp cpu?

[keen nacelle]

An i5 isn't pulling full load wattage while gaming

[keen nacelle]

Yes, and I said depending on cpu when I said possibly 3070

[tall lichen]

What if I were to get a 2000 series gpu?

[carmine crest]

It’d be a semi similar story

[keen nacelle]

If you can find a 2070 super for the same price as that 6600xt, go for it

[carmine crest]

To be fair your cpu is going to be a bit of a bottleneck.

[keen nacelle]

No it won't be

At all

[carmine crest]

I mean yes it will

Having experienced it

[tall lichen]

I don't really see a need to upgrade my CPU. Yet

[keen nacelle]

Not a 9600k with a 6600xt/2070s

[carmine crest]

The only reason I say that is because the lack of hyper threading does hurt

[keen nacelle]

Would need to be running a 3060 ti/6700xt or higher to see a noticeable difference between cpus

[tall lichen]

Not many games utilize that iirc

[vital oriole]

Not really tbh

9600K is still okay

[carmine crest]

Eh

[tall lichen]

And even then I play MMOs

[carmine crest]

I personally don’t agree but I’ll leave it at that

[tall lichen]

Not to mention I have two fans running

It's honestly the one thing I'm concerned about and I'd rather not have a "straw that breaks the camel's back" situation

[heady turtle]

6600/6600xt

[heady turtle]

9600k obviously isn't a good cpu to buy now but they obviously bought it when 9th gen was the latest, then it was a good cpu, and still is okay

[carmine crest]

i disagree with that being a good cpu at any point because of the lack of hyperthreading.

It does make a large difference and it was stupid it was not included. AMD had that included which made things nicer

[cerulean rover]

6c6t was good for gaming for a time

[tall lichen]

I know Hypterthreading is really good for multiple tasks especially for streaming. But I'm not a streamer so...

[carmine crest]

eh

not realated

if you are streaming 8c16th would be the minium i would rec

[cerulean rover]

First gen Ryzen had hyperthreading but still sucked :p

[tall lichen]

Exactly

[carmine crest]

i disagree

[cerulean rover]

For gaming

[carmine crest]

6c12th

[cerulean rover]

crappy imc bad avg bad lows

[vital oriole]

It really sucked

[carmine crest]

I had it

it was bad sure

but it was more usable then the intel counterpart

[cerulean rover]

Nahhh

[vital oriole]

First gen ryzen had haswell single thread

That's how bad it was

[cerulean rover]

I had a 2700 that felt less smooth than gaming on 9600k

[carmine crest]

you are telling me what i already know

[vital oriole]

2700 is also slower than 9600k in gaming

[heady turtle]

Doesn't make large difference if just gaming, it does make a large diff in QOL tho

[vital oriole]

Despite it having more cores and threads

[cerulean rover]

Ye, and Zen+ improved on Zen

[carmine crest]

It most certainly can tho

[cerulean rover]

Anyways, 9600k decent for a time, can still do fine in some games today too

[vital oriole]

HT is not very important

[carmine crest]

Having felt that it makes the framtimes super smooth

[tall lichen]

I do wonder if a 9600k is good for Eldenring

[vital oriole]

It's good to have but you can't compare apples to oranges

[heady turtle]

Streaming on a cpu sucks anyway you'd want to use a gpu for nvenc/amds encoder idk the name

[carmine crest]

true

[vital oriole]

it's vce for radeon

[carmine crest]

its really crappy on amd tho

[vital oriole]

nah

[carmine crest]

It is

[vital oriole]

it's fine now

[carmine crest]

no its not

lol

[vital oriole]

it used to be trash

but it's a lot better now

[hot folio]

Used to be bad, now it’s pretty good

[cerulean rover]

Still worse than nvenc but decent

[vital oriole]

what gpu are you even running rn to say that

[carmine crest]

I just tried it within the past 6 months

6800xt

[vital oriole]

that's weird

[heady turtle]

You can actually get higher fps if you turn HT off

[vital oriole]

in some games, ye

[carmine crest]

I dont care about higher fps

[vital oriole]

like 20% gains can be seen

[carmine crest]

i care about it bieng smooth

[vital oriole]

no, not just fps

even frametimes

[heady turtle]

Nah that's a misconception the one on rx 6000 is good

[vital oriole]

in some games, ht off just adds perf

in others you lose some or a lot

[heady turtle]

Not many games use more than 6t so ye

[carmine crest]

Cod warzone Tom clancy divison 2 cyber punk

[vital oriole]

So in the end, HT doesn't matter in gaming

[carmine crest]

all those games will totally use more core 6t

minecraft

skyrim

[vital oriole]

I managed to run cp2077 on a 4710hq

Just gotta have enough ram and an ssd lol

The gpu obviously lacks oomph cause I have 850m

But the cpu had no issues

[carmine crest]

because there was no gpu

[vital oriole]

Um, no

[carmine crest]

it would really suck with anything attached to it

[vital oriole]

Not really

[cerulean rover]

Minecraft & Skyrim do just fine with 4c8t

[vital oriole]

The game is ok with something at least 4c/8t

Anything less it'll crap itself

[carmine crest]

What have you tried higher end wise on that game

cpu wise

[vital oriole]

I tried fh5

[carmine crest]

fh5?

[vital oriole]

It's definitely struggling, but it's because I have an hdd for game drive

forza horizon 5

[carmine crest]

ah

[cerulean rover]

IME div 2 didn't need more than like 6c, using 3800x, around half my cores were doing nothing

[carmine crest]

I mean

[cerulean rover]

I could bench it with&without doing core affinity

[carmine crest]

yes but no?

its not about benchmarks

[cerulean rover]

I can actually bench it later

[tall lichen]

What about if I had a PCI 3.0 MB

[carmine crest]

its about the actually gameplay experience

[cerulean rover]

which the fps & lows will tell you

Don't remember if div 2 even has a built in benchmark

[carmine crest]

I had one of the levels actually give me 60% usage on my cpu

[magic wing]

6600/6600xt

[carmine crest]

like it was a crazy battle

[cerulean rover]

I could bench it later

the battle in the capital?

[hot folio]

Cyberpunk ran perfectly fine on my 6700k, not much noticeable performance loss compared to my 5900x

[tall lichen]

I see then

[cerulean rover]

Don't remember that being hard to run

[carmine crest]

Yeah that one i think

[magic wing]

6500xt is the one that needs pcie gen 4

[tall lichen]

I see. Thank you for the detail

[vital oriole]

4c/8t is still okay in many games, with consistent enough frametimes

Unless you play something like beamng and teardown

Those are heavy on physics

So they use a lot of cpu

Teardown murdered my poor haswell lmao

fps just dips to 10 when things get crazy

[hot folio]

How bad of an idea would buying a 12900k be to upgrade from a 5900x?

[tall lichen]

I suppose even a 6600xt would be good even for Nvidia titles right?

[cerulean rover]

Physics heavy games will push CPU pretty hard

Some strategy games too

Paradox games are just poorly optimized and won't use more than like 4 cores

[tall lichen]

I'm not into those kind of games

[heady turtle]

Still, they only lose a small bit of performance on pcie 3 vs pcie 4 and so much cheaper than Nvidia, 6600 only being about 5% worse than 3060 and 6600xt being like ~8% bet than 3060 at way better prices

[tall lichen]

I see

[lone pond]

Heyo I'm real stupid when it comes to this stuff but i do want to check

https://www.newegg.ca/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6600-gv-r66eagle-8gd/p/N82E16814932481?Description=RX+6600

this card

it's 20$ under MSRP right now

unless there's taxes and shipping

is the GIGABYTE Radeon RX 6600 EAGLE 8G good?

10$ under MSRP if you include shipping

no

5$ under MSRP

it's 415 CAD MSRP

See told you i was stupid when it comes to this

just want to know if it's any good

[rustic pulsar]

good for what? gaming at 1080p, sure

[lone pond]

like anything

VR gaming

uhh

Just games

[rustic pulsar]

what resolution?

[keen nacelle]

Depends on the price tag attached to it

[lone pond]

400$, the MSRP in canada was like 420$

[rustic pulsar]

what resolution is your monitor?

[lone pond]

oh that

1080P

[rustic pulsar]

yeah then 6600 is fine

[lone pond]

144 Hz

cool cool

i've been told the 6600 was good

i just don't know if that specific brand is

eagle i think they're called

[rustic pulsar]

eagle is fine, its the lower end for gigabyte

[lone pond]

i hear different brands give different performances

[lone pond]

i'm not looking for a super high end GPU

[rustic pulsar]

very little, like +-2%

[lone pond]

Cool cool

[rustic pulsar]

yeah then 6600 is fine. for 1080p gaming

[lone pond]

that's super small difference

i'm fine with that

[rustic pulsar]

most of the higher ends are just better coolings so quieter and slightly higher base clock

[lone pond]

yeah

[keen nacelle]

I'd spend a bit more for this imo https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/nyH7YJ/powercolor-radeon-rx-6600-xt-8-gb-fighter-video-card-6600xt-8gbd6-3dh

[lone pond]

i own a GTX 950 so anything is an upgrade

[keen nacelle]

Especially if you have a pcie 3.0 system

[lone pond]

Yeah i would but my budget for this one was supposed to be 350$

[keen nacelle]

Ah

[lone pond]

50$ more isn't so bad

but that's like

200$ more

I think i'm just going to take the jump and buy it

[rustic pulsar]

go for it

[lone pond]

yeahhhh

[rustic pulsar]

wait, is your mobo pci 3 or 4?

[lone pond]

the GTX 950 2gb isn't bad

but it isn't good either

[lone pond]

3

[rustic pulsar]

yeah then go for it!

[lone pond]

cool cool

i've been wanting to PCVR for a while now anyways

[rustic pulsar]

i'd recommend blade and sorcery, boneworks, and half life alyx as my top 3

[lone pond]

yeah

i own a quest 2, but i've been wanting too see the other side for a while

graphics wise

Can't believe i was going to buy a 1650 for 350$ lol

everyone was freaking out when i gave them the price

[keen nacelle]

Lol, didn't realize that was you

I was one of those people

6600 is miles better than a 1650

6600 nvidia equivelant is probably a 2060, on pcie 3.0

[livid idol]

PCI gen doesn't affect the 6600 as much, maybe 2%. Not like the 6500 XT.

[keen nacelle]

Mr1111 pointed out to me the other day, mightve been yesterday actually, it's still a decent bit

Definitely not the 20-30% on 6500xt though

In some games it's up to a 10% diff I believe he said

[livid idol]

interesting, I'll look into that

[heady turtle]

It is 410 yes but if you can spare 35$ more you can get a 6600xt
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/nyH7YJ/powercolor-radeon-rx-6600-xt-8-gb-fighter-video-card-6600xt-8gbd6-3dh

[livid idol]

Looks like with a 6600 XT at x8 3.0 vs 4.0 there's only 2 examples of this I've seen, Far Cry 6 (but only with the HD texture pack) and Forza 5. Red Dead 2 had noticeably better lows but average was within margin.

[keen nacelle]

Isn't 6600xt x16 whereas 6600 is x8?

[lone pond]

I think you’re USD

I’m CAD

It’s a 200$ diff

[heady turtle]

No it's ca.pcpartpicker, 446 at vuogo

[lone pond]

Is Vuogo a trustworthy website

[wicked hound]

Friend used it few times. It works. They only have $20+ CAD shipping tho, so difference is more like $55 CAD

[heady turtle]

still worth

[lone pond]

How much better is the performance?

[wicked hound]

16% - 18% generally, for the 6600 to 6600XT

[lone pond]

huh

that's pretty big

i'm still trying to get that block on purchasing cleared

will the change from 3 to 2 fans make a difference?

[lone pond]

yeah nah

that's like a 100$ difference

i'm not looking to spend that much more

i'll survive without the 16% boost

[tall lichen]

So would a 6600xt be worth it for $380USD compared to a 6600 for $300USD?

(I do know it's a better buy than an rtx 3050 that's for sure)

[livid idol]

6600 XT is about a 3060

Most 3060s right now are $400+

Take from that what you will

[tall lichen]

Hmmm

I think I'll buy the 3060

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-no-problem-here-crazy-eyes-gif-12788383

[hexed falcon]

i thought regular 6600s are like 3060 and 6600xts are like 3060 tis

[livid idol]

Nope. 6700 XT is slightly better than 3060 ti

[hexed falcon]

so a regular 6600 is an in between 3050 and 3060

[livid idol]

Pretty much

[tacit inlet]

6600xt is like a bridge between the two like the 6700xt is in the middle of 3060 ti and 3070

[hexed falcon]

regularly i wouldnt care if the gpu was amd or nvidia but my monitor i got recently is nvidia freesync so ill try to find a reasonably cheap 3060

[livid idol]

"Nvidia freesync" isn't a thing

Gsync is Nvidia

[hexed falcon]

some thign about nvidia on the monitor

yeah gsync

[livid idol]

It doesn't matter though. Modern "gsync compatible" monitors are actually just AMD freesync rebranded. There's almost no current monitors with the true gsync hardware.

They're intercompatible is what I'm trying to say

Gone are the days of having to match your monitor to your GPU

[hexed falcon]

ah

thats sad

[livid idol]

I'd say that this makes things much easier for people. No more people not doing their research and finding later you couldn't use AMD with gsync.

[heady turtle]

its like this
6700xt
3060 ti
6600xt
3060
6600

[tropic remnant]

This is why the xx50 XT's were made to throw off that balance lol

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-dark-side-darkness-balance-force-gif-13087246

[heady turtle]

well

ill fit in the 50xts for ya

3070
6750xt
6700xt
3060 ti
6650xt
6600xt
3060
6600

[keen nacelle]

Meh, amds been ahead a bit in price for each tier for a bit since their stock has been better

The refresh wasn't too important for and other than bringing 6600xt price down a bit, giving 2080 perf at old 6600xt price, and beating out nvidia for the best gaming card (6950xt vs 3090 ti)

6750xt is weird imo

6950xt made the most sense

[heady turtle]

Was talking purely performance

Although 6750xt/3070 kinda tied just depends on game

[keen nacelle]

was responding moreso to zero

[heady turtle]

Fair

[keen nacelle]

ty whoever that was

[lone pond]

@heady turtle @keen nacelle Has anyone tried to push 6950XT's yet?

[keen nacelle]

beats 3090 ti consistently i believe

[lone pond]

Cant seem to find them on 3Dmark results

unless no one has tried to Crossfire one yet 😂

[keen nacelle]

i doubt it

[lone pond]

yeah no 6950XT's yet on timespy

[vital oriole]

it does beat 3090ti

in gaming

[lone pond]

Im just looking for overclocks lol

[vital oriole]

no 3dmark yet but

yeah

but for oc potential

i believe nvidia would do better

[lone pond]

rumours said by 1%

we'll have to wait and see

pumped to watch the showdown between the 4090Ti and 7900XT when they do come out

[keen nacelle]

ehh, i believe oc formula 6950xt is better

but i could be wrong

[keen nacelle]

im expecting 4090 ti to win, but have much, much higher wattage

[vital oriole]

wait until kingpin comes

[keen nacelle]

i thought it was alr out?

[odd siren]

Toxic xtxh and strix xtxh are still about up there with the 6950 afaik

[vital oriole]

ye

it already is out

[lone pond]

they also still claim to do 100 TFLOPs

[vital oriole]

but no one did any oc on em yet

i mean tflops means nothing tbh

when there's no standardized test

[lone pond]

would you include 3DMark scores from the gpu to entice buyers?

[livid idol]

Who would be doing this? Nvidia/AMD, AIB partners?
It's pretty common in the used market as proof the card works.

[lone pond]

That you upload 3dmark scores?

[livid idol]

You'll see some of the more honest third party used sellers post up the Time Spy results page at least. Upload isn't necessary.

[lone pond]

mmm i see

[tall lichen]

Attention desperate epic gamers

The RX6500xt is around $175

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-no-problem-here-crazy-eyes-gif-12788383

[normal hawk]

[lone pond]

is K5-pro for gpu vrms snakeoil?

[cerulean rover]

If the current thermal pads already work fine, yea, won't do too much, if your current thermal pads don't do well, it'll help.

[odd siren]

It's very meh, but also very messy

[heady turtle]

Nope, meh and impossible to clean off

[lone pond]

any recommendations for high quality thermal pads?

[livid idol]

Thermalright makes good pads rated at 12 W/mK. I used those to repad a couple times.

[heady turtle]

Yeah i think they're called odessy's

[lone pond]

https://www.amazon.com.au/Thermalright-85x45x0-5mm-Conductive-Resistance-Temperature/dp/B08Y6V5JK6?th=1

this one right/

[heady turtle]

Ye

Make sure you get the right size tho

[magic wing]

size as in thickness

u can cut to length and breadth

[rose pollen]

Does anyone know if the PerFE 12 cable from EVGA (2 pcie on psu side, 12 pin on the GPU side) is compatible with the 3090 Ti FTW3 ultra? I know the cable that comes with the GPU needs 3 pcie

[livid idol]

It is not. The 3090 ti needs the new 16 (12+4) pin cable, and comes with an adapter.

[rose pollen]

So it would be wrong to plug it in with the 4 top pins not connected to anything

It seems to run but I'm afraid to see what happens when I try to draw higher wattage than idle

[livid idol]

It appears to be the same pinout and keying on the 12 pins BUT there is a fire hazard because the GPU will be requesting more wattage than the cable is specced for

[rose pollen]

Yeah isn't the pcie standard 150w per cable

[livid idol]

The 12 pin cable spec is 300W max because 8+8 pin input

[rose pollen]

Makes no sense to say 2 of those is capable of driving a 3090 ti

[livid idol]

The PCIe slot is capable of giving 75W max, and most of the time you don't want it at max for stability

[rose pollen]

I ran furmark for a minute and it's drawing 470. I'm gonna email EVGA about this and see why they say it's compatible with the 3090 ti

[livid idol]

So if the 3090 ti is requesting 470W it's asking for at least 395W over the cable, which is well out of spec.

Physically it would be compatible but...

Whether the cable can handle those wattages is up to the gauge of the cable

If they overbuilt it like some are then 400W would be ok but getting warm. Much more than that and it'll melt.

[rose pollen]

Gotcha. There don't seem to be specs about the gauge or anything on their site but it says compatible. I'll inquire further and see what they say https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=100-NK-3000-B9

[vestal spruce]

it would be limited to 150w in theory

unless they didn't go by the official 12VHPWR spec

because you need a pin of the 4 grounded to get 300w

[ember cipher]

looking for a solution that can allow a video port on a PC to connect to a monitor over a LAN in an office setting. any solutions out there?

[hasty sphinx]

How muich is XFX RX 590 worth?

[hasty sphinx]

Well, my best friend is on the way to sell me his whole PC with that gpu in it for $150 so hopefully it's a good deal lol

[livid idol]

Chromecast. There's also wireless HDMI but it might be too expensive/too far to reach.

[keen nacelle]

Def a good deal for you

590 worth atleast 200 rn

[grizzled nimbus]

i say maybe 160-180$, you can get a lot more for not much more

[hasty sphinx]

yeah, but it was a complete system. maybe not worth to much over $300, but Idk the full specs yet until I hook it up and find all the info.

has a 750w thermaltake psu. coolermaster air cooler.. the gpu. some sort of corsair big blocky case with what seems like pretty good airflow and has some sort of viper ram that is red

and 3 140mm fans with led

idk the cpu though

intel he said i5, but couldn't remember the gen

[keen nacelle]

The full build with atleast a semi decent cpu is worth 500 min I'd say

[livid idol]

Thermaltake is one of those PSU brands that it could either be really good or catch fire

[hasty sphinx]

this build was used for years by the person who gave it to my friend who has now used it for about a year.

my friend really just needed the money and knew I would take care of it.

[livid idol]

Watch it be a 7600

[hasty sphinx]

is that a good one?

[livid idol]

By today's standards? Not really

[hasty sphinx]

ok

it's not modular?

so like it's just a crap ton of cords coming out the back.

[livid idol]

I meant the CPU

[hasty sphinx]

oh

right oikj

[livid idol]

i5 7600

[hasty sphinx]

he was saying something about it like 5th or 6th gen

[livid idol]

Even better lol

Basically useless

[hasty sphinx]

sayas he was able to run games like apex on mid at 70ish fps so idk

but I really was just thikjning of the gpu

[livid idol]

PSU might be salvageable too

[hasty sphinx]

the air cooler is pretty big too so maybe that as well? for some eason though they have the fan on the back side with the intake fighting the exhaust.. so idk why they did that

[livid idol]

Cooler Master air cooler you said? Probably Hyper 212

It was good back in the day, but gets destroyed by modern $20 coolers

[hasty sphinx]

ah ok

I'm uploading a short vif

vid*

[livid idol]

Looks like a 212 yep. And it's on backwards.

[hasty sphinx]

I guess he boots win10 from as usb

yeah that is what I thought lol

[ivory herald]

2022 & we can't figure out a fan

[hasty sphinx]

ha yeah, I was like how's your thermals? he's like 60s while playing a game.

I was like hrm. I wonder what they'd be if this was on right lol

[hasty sphinx]

This is the case, but it has a glass side panel.

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Carbide-Series™-Air-540-Silver-Edition-High-Airflow-ATX-Cube-Case/p/CC-9011034-WLED

[livid idol]

Oh the old carbides, those aren't too bad

[grizzled nimbus]

i say maybe 350-400 max? this really isnt the best build

590 is also not a fun card to use

[hollow heath]

GTX 1070 Ti or RTX 2060

[grizzled nimbus]

2060

[hollow heath]

How come

[grizzled nimbus]

faster than the 1070ti by ~15%, has DLSS and RT, new nvenc, more efficient, a better card all round

[hollow heath]

Really?

[grizzled nimbus]

yes really

[hollow heath]

Ok ok

[hasty sphinx]

I got it for $150 though so... I don't feel I lost anything.

[grizzled nimbus]

if you got it for 150 yeah thats fine, i say sell the gpu and use it as a game server or something

[ashen hedge]

Need some help deciding which gpu I should get.
My choices are between a Gigabyte RTX 2060 6gb and an Inno3D RTX 3050 twin x2 oc 8gb

[livid idol]

3050 is a little better

[ashen hedge]

how come?

[livid idol]

Performance-wise the 2060 is slightly better, but the 3050 has newer tech and more memory.

[ashen hedge]

That's fair. I've also been concerned about the 2060's temps and power consumption, which is partly why I was still eyeing the 3050

thanks a bunch

[velvet grail]

Is a bricked GPU somehow repairable?

[magic wing]

can be

[velvet grail]

Also, what do people usually mena with bricked? Like drivers thet block the GPU?

[magic wing]

no

vbios damaged in some way

[velvet grail]

Can it be "repaired"?

Easily

?

[magic wing]

depends but yeah

most of the time it can

[velvet grail]

Because I found a 50€ 1070 that has this problem

Should I try

[magic wing]

only if its a soft brick tho

hard brick is a lot more irritating

[velvet grail]

I mean
It's a 200€ card tho

[velvet grail]

Ho do I know?
Should I ask the owner?

If yes, what do I ask?

[magic wing]

You either hope the owner knows or hope that its a soft brick and gamble some money

[velvet grail]

Ok

[whole sequoia]

hello

i wanted to ask something

does my psu

https://www.evga.com/products/specs/psu.aspx?pn=ffee59fd-9d7c-411c-a23d-c5a0a61dde2d

support msi rtx 3060ti

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-3060-Ti-GAMING-X-TRIO/Specification

[frozen urchin]

It should, but it depends on alot of things. What cpu will you use and could you specify which 3060 ti? I have a rm750x just to be on the safe side with my 3060ti ftw3 Ultra and 12600k even though it normally draws a max of about 530. my 3060 ti hits 250 watts consistently in games but it is board limited at 250 watts I believe. I also have a sizeable overclock.

[tropic remnant]

It would support it but i would also undervolt the GPU as well to be more on the safe side for gaming

[whole sequoia]

I have i5-10400f

[frozen urchin]

could you do more like 650

or 700?

[tropic remnant]

For that 3060 Ti i honestly would of went for a 80 bronze minimum for 600w

[whole sequoia]

well i was kinda worried because my last gpu was 8pin, and this one had to use both sides of the cable

i have those 2 6+2 pins i think

so basically i would have to put 1 6+2 in the 8 pin one, and 1 6 pin in the other one leaving the 2 pins hanging?

[tropic remnant]

I have a 650w gold rated PSU and when i just did a scan for my system on idle well this is the results

Note my GPU is also undervolted as well

[frozen urchin]

plug both 6+2's in. On my psu cables, they kind of lock together into an 8 pin to make it easier

[whole sequoia]

i have only 1 ssd

if that makes a difference

[frozen urchin]

no

[whole sequoia]

like psu wise

[frozen urchin]

ssd doesnt do anything

power wise

[whole sequoia]

it uses power tho no?

[frozen urchin]

it uses very small ammounts

[tropic remnant]

Well SSD does just not a whole lot

a SSD could be like 5w

[frozen urchin]

compared to your GPU its nothing

[hasty sphinx]

i5 6500 and I thought it was a 590, but it is this one instead

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255419505514

[whole sequoia]

well true

[tropic remnant]

Would make a decent 1080p gaming rig

I say decent because of the i5

[hasty sphinx]

my friend was playing on a 60in 4k tv and swears he was playing 4k, but I don't see how that's possible.

said he was getting 70fps in apex

[tropic remnant]

He could be playing on low settings

[hasty sphinx]

he said he was playing mid, but my 1650s with mid settings in apex averages 50-60fps in 1440p

so I"m not sure

[frozen urchin]

Long story short, you can get a 650 or even 750 watt psu for a small amount more than 600. It is also generally a good thing to play safe with a PSU and that extra wattage will allow you to overclock even if you only use a Overclock scanner like with MSI afterburner, EVGA x1, ect.

[whole sequoia]

im not going to be changing anything anymore tho

if i upgrade something else

i would be upgrading the psu 100%

[tropic remnant]

He also has the additional Vram as well

[livid idol]

There 6500 is comparable to the Ryzen 1200, and the 580 is still worth the $150

[tropic remnant]

@hasty sphinx What CPU is your friend also using

[hasty sphinx]

I think though taht even with it having more vram it isn't as efficient as the 1650s with less vram

[hasty sphinx]

the 6500.

I bought his pc last night for $150

[frozen urchin]

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-GA-0650-X1

[tropic remnant]

If i was in your shoes i would replace the 6500 with a i7 6700

[frozen urchin]

how much more is this than the 600?

[hasty sphinx]

I guess. I'm not really wanting to throw money into it.. I already have $4k in my own PC

[frozen urchin]

No way he did 4k apex

[hasty sphinx]

I bought it because he's my best friend and I feel like his dreams of his job he is getting is not going to pan out so he won't be able to build a pc like he thinks he is going to so.. I kind of want to hold onto it to give it to him if it doesn't end up working out.

however if it does work out for him then I will sell the pc

mayber

I just don't know

[frozen urchin]

what are you even going to do with it

[hasty sphinx]

well. it's dusty af and the fans are sounding pretty awful, so I was going to dust it out and put new fans in it since I have tons.

I was also going to install windows onto it because he has been booting from some weird limited windows from a usb stick

[frozen urchin]

you could buy hard drives and make a NAS i guess?

[hasty sphinx]

I don't even know what that is

[frozen urchin]

Network attached storage

its kind of like a mini cloud data center in your house

or wherever you put it

It works the same way you might put pictures and stuff in online storage. then you can redownload or stream movies or whatever you upload to any device on your network

[tropic remnant]

@frozen urchin If you can find this i would go for this https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/pure-power-10/924

[hasty sphinx]

ah, I don't have the room or I guess need for that

[frozen urchin]

I was helping someone else. I have a pc

[hasty sphinx]

I personally only play games

and maybe hulu/disney+ like once a month

[tropic remnant]

Well that someone else could go for that instead

[hasty sphinx]

I have spotify for music and I def don't have pics and whatnot.

[frozen urchin]

just a thought

[hasty sphinx]

so the cpu/gpu combo that I just got.. would be ok to run diablo 3 1080p at 60+fps?

[tropic remnant]

Diablo 3 you can use a 5300G alone to get 60+ fps at 1080p

[hasty sphinx]

idk what the 5300g is

[tropic remnant]

Ryzen 3

[hasty sphinx]

oh ok

then I think I will just clean this PC up real good and sell it to my ex who wanted me to build her a pc anyways

she would only play diablo 3 sometimes

and just do facebook and hulu the rest of the time

[tropic remnant]

Diablo 3 in this day and age is no longer a demanding title

[frozen urchin]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/drippyair/saved/#view=NPKNzy

[frozen urchin]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CXtqd9 @tropic remnant

[tropic remnant]

You never made it available for others to see

[frozen urchin]

You know how my gpu says IXC on it? Im confused because in precision X1 it only shows the dye temps and says that it only shows dye temps on non IXC cards

sorry ICXX

Icx*

[tropic remnant]

I have to redo my part list lol

[hasty sphinx]

alright cool. I just got off the tube with her and she said let her know the cost of the total build.. so I gotta find the info on the RAM and mobo as well. I'll give it a good dusting and I think I'm going to go as far as repasting the cpu.

[tropic remnant]

@frozen urchin This is my system which has taken time for building/replacing https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xPkyFg

The AIO i have in the list is not the exact one i am using but it is similar

Also the 3060 Ti is the only one i paid in USD for it cause of the queue system

[frozen urchin]

I wish I got more storage but at the same time im very happy I chose speed over quantity. Games boot instantly which is a dream come true

[tropic remnant]

Honestly i can't tell the loading difference between a 2.5" and a NVMe SSD

because depending on the game could vary between 0.1 to 1.1 seconds

[frozen urchin]

I was going to buy a 3060 for 519 at microcenter but on our way there i got a notification that they got a shipment of 17 3060ti's for only 529 so i made an obvious decision. I didnt really pay attention but the ftw3 Ultra iks also the highest preforming 3060 ti on the market. I just wanted a GPU =/

[tropic remnant]

I got 2 emails for a 3060 and 3060 Ti so i went with the 3060 Ti because i knew that would last me a lot longer for use

[hasty sphinx]

6900xt sapphire nitro+ for me.

SE

[frozen urchin]

Ive been thinking about a 2.5 since my MOBO only has one gen 4 SSD slot ( I THINK, dont take my word) so if i got a gen 4 it wouldnt even be used to the max.

[tropic remnant]

Also a 3060 performance is like a 2070/2070S and a 3060 Ti is like a 2080/2080 Super

[hasty sphinx]

gen 4 for gaming offers no extra speed over gen 3

[keen nacelle]

3060 ti beats 2080s by like 2%, so its not close to 2080

[hasty sphinx]

so not missing out anyways

[keen nacelle]

3060 is like 2% ahead of 2070

[frozen urchin]

3060 ti preforms on par with a 2080 super depending on the card but anyways where are you even finding a 2080, let alone a super or TI for same price as 3060 ti

or atleast when i was building, 2080 supers ran almost double

[keen nacelle]

idk where you were buying from

second hand market theyre similar prices rn

and 2080 ti=3070

[frozen urchin]

not 4 months ago

id rather have a 3070 sure but my 3060 ti is heavily overclocked out of the factory and I did some too so im happy with how it competes

[keen nacelle]

my 3060 ti oced as far as it can go slightly loses to a stock 3070

and it has a great bin

no stock oc will make a card as good as a step up

[tropic remnant]

Right now for the EVGA B-stock weekend sales there is this 3070

[frozen urchin]

i shouldve waited but at the same time

[tropic remnant]

Or if you want RGB

[frozen urchin]

so happy i got a pc

[hasty sphinx]

yeah in 4 months prices have realllllly gone down

[keen nacelle]

thats normal 3070 price now

[tropic remnant]

For myself i also went for a 3060 Ti because i have 1080p monitors

Sure more frames in certain games is nice but not when like 95% of my games i own are single player

[frozen urchin]

I knew it would but I had waited so long and i was happy with a 3060 ti. I might upgrade to 40 series and try to resell my card for what i bought it for or a little less. but my 3060 ti does 165+ fps in all my games except like 120 in warzone ( i just use dlss to get above 165) and i run them all maxed graphics at 1440p so its just fine for me

[keen nacelle]

i mean, i essentially paid $1200 for a 3600, 3060 ti, and 1tb ssd

so youre doing good lmao

[frozen urchin]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CXtqd9

thats my entire setup

monitor and peripherals and all that stuff

[tropic remnant]

Oh ya and the PSU in my list i won it from a giveaway that is why it is 0$

[keen nacelle]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LfrJMb

wait

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LfrJMb there

[frozen urchin]

I was looking at a 3600 until 12th gen came out and the 12600k annihilated it for cheaper. AMD just recently dropped the prices tho to make it more competitive

[keen nacelle]

i bought a pre built

unfortunately

bad quality

[frozen urchin]

no offense

but

yucky

[keen nacelle]

i mean

[tropic remnant]

I had like 2-3 years ago a Ryzen 5 2600 which was good for modern games but bad for retro games

[keen nacelle]

theres good pre builts

i just didnt have the knowledge or experience to buy a good one

[frozen urchin]

once you hit 3 k sure they are good

but lower ones just advertise one or two parts and then cheap out on the other stuff

[keen nacelle]

there are good quality budget pre builts

specifically ABS on newegg

theyre one of the only pre builts i trust

[tropic remnant]

This game i played against my friend in the weekends and with the R5 2600 and a GTX 1660 i was getting 25fps for some odd reason https://store.steampowered.com/app/702120/THE_KING_OF_FIGHTERS_97_GLOBAL_MATCH/

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[frozen urchin]

ok my bad just kinda generally all prebuilts above like 2500 are going to be nice

[keen nacelle]

thats where the price/perf drops off, around 2k

[frozen urchin]

might be its unoptimized for your drivers or it runs older rendering protocols

[tropic remnant]

But when i used my laptop that had a i5 8250U and a MX150 i was playing it at 60fps

[hasty sphinx]

Arctic MX-4 or Noctua NT-H1?

or maybe something else?

[frozen urchin]

mx4

[tropic remnant]

Certain retro games plays better with Intel than Ryzen

[keen nacelle]

mx4 is good

[frozen urchin]

Im very interested in raptor lake i guess beyond the fact that its just a new line of CPU's

[keen nacelle]

im planning on going to raptor lake

[hasty sphinx]

what about MX-5?

[keen nacelle]

or going for am4 refresh, amd said theyre going to release more cpus on the socket

[frozen urchin]

i mean intel gets to refine their split e-core p-core design which is allready super sucessful in 12th gen

[keen nacelle]

which would be cool

[frozen urchin]

there were also single core benchmark scores leaked where the (assumed) 13900k had a 15% better score than 12900k

and its supposed to have 8 more cores than 12900k so multi core is going to be huge improvements

[tropic remnant]

I honestly can't wait to try out the laptops with the upcoming MX570 GPU

[hasty sphinx]

huh. MX-4 4g is on sale for 6.65, but the 8g one is 9.99....

so I may as well grab the 8g one

or will that go bad before I could possibly use all that?

[frozen urchin]

wait check if your cooler comes with paste

[hasty sphinx]

I'm repasting

[frozen urchin]

ohh

you probablky only need 4g

[tropic remnant]

full specs is this which yes i know it is only 2gb of Vram but for a lot of games i would be testing/playing wouldn't require more than that

[hasty sphinx]

but for 50% more cost of the 4g, I get 100% more paste

[tropic remnant]

Gaming on a laptop with that GPU should last like 4-6 hours on the battery

[frozen urchin]

sorry wrong reply

[keen nacelle]

rnda2 apus are more exciting

[frozen urchin]

whatever but you proabbly wont need 8g

[keen nacelle]

they offer 1650 tier perf without the power usage of a dgpu

[tropic remnant]

When i had the one with the MX150 i got a max of 8 hours gaming on Overwatch

[keen nacelle]

its super cool

[hasty sphinx]

sorry to bog down your guys' gpu talk with cpu paste talk.

I'll just grab the 4g

[frozen urchin]

its your money

[keen nacelle]

the mx4 is good

one of the best thermal pastes for the price i believe

[hasty sphinx]

right but for just $3 more I can get 8g of it

[frozen urchin]

i used 3.5g of mx4 for my 12th gen cpu. you really dont need much

[hasty sphinx]

oh then I will need the 8g one

because I will be repasting my 12th gen as well

[frozen urchin]

ah

ok

you didnt say you were repasting 2 systems

[tropic remnant]

I use this lol https://www.amazon.ca/Thermal-Grizzly-Kryonaut-Extreme-Compound/dp/B08F78P2J3

[hasty sphinx]

I honestly didn't know how much paste is needed to reapaste

I was thinking it would take like 1g

[frozen urchin]

nol

[keen nacelle]

not much at all

[hasty sphinx]

idk how much was in the tube that came with my arctic liquid freezer, but I only used half the tube

and my thermals are amazing

I'm just going to be swapping cases so I think I need to take my aio off to do so

unless I can just be carefulk when swapping, but idk how viable that is

[frozen urchin]

3.5 g i thinl

or 4

I have a LF2 280

[keen nacelle]

not even close

that is a ton of paste

[hasty sphinx]

I have the 360.

I just put a nice little thin layer over the whole cpu.

[keen nacelle]

you need less than half a gram

[frozen urchin]

i wanted to top mount so i got 280

[hasty sphinx]

see I was thinking I didn't need a whole lot...

because I barely used any tbh

[keen nacelle]

@torpid garden how much paste would you recc to use

[torpid garden]

Just spread it

[hasty sphinx]

but the case my gf just suprise ordered me will allow me to top mount my 360

[torpid garden]

Owning an AIO is proof you do not have a GF

[hasty sphinx]

that's what I did. I feel like I used maybe 1g

[torpid garden]

[frozen urchin]

half a gram????

[hasty sphinx]

my gf has an aio as well

[keen nacelle]

it would be leaking off if you used 1g

[hasty sphinx]

she actually bought me the case so I could start looking into a custom loop 😛

[hasty sphinx]

also.. just because you don't have a gf... 😉

[torpid garden]

I did as soon as I built a custom loop

trust

[hasty sphinx]

ahaha ok well then that makes sense. she wants me to have a custom loop ha

[frozen urchin]

im tweaking nvm

i feel stupid now

0.8g came with my lf2

I used it all

[hasty sphinx]

waow

then I used .4

.8 seems like a lot then

[keen nacelle]

thats about right

[hasty sphinx]

how's your thermals?

[frozen urchin]

63c max on P cores in cinebench multi core

[hasty sphinx]

what cpu?

[keen nacelle]

i might have used a bit too little, my 3600 gets up to 75 which seems a bit high for a 224xt, but not like its danger temps

[frozen urchin]

fans at 50%

12600k

with slight OC

[hasty sphinx]

ah

I get 88c with fans at 100%.. but I have a nice good OC

[frozen urchin]

88c

what aree you using?"???

you have a 360 mm lf2

[hasty sphinx]

12600k

[frozen urchin]

bruh you did something wrong

[hasty sphinx]

but I am at 5.3p 4.2e

[frozen urchin]

still

[hasty sphinx]

my ambient temp though is at 85F 24/7

[candid fog]

damn

[hasty sphinx]

I am a cold person

I need my heat

alright. about to install windows 10 on this otehr pc

fun fun fun

[candid fog]

my gpu runs at 35c without doing anything and 70c running gta

[frozen urchin]

My gpu runs warmer in the winter than in the summer

[candid fog]

what

[frozen urchin]

Because in the winter I use the auto fan curve to keep it quiet but in summer I set the fans at 75% since my window is open and I can’t hear my pc anyway

[candid fog]

my 1060 6gb zotac mini runs cool all the time

[frozen urchin]

I like not hearing my pc

[candid fog]

same

[frozen urchin]

I have a 3060 ti that I overclocked to 2.050 ghz so it’s not the coolest all the time

[candid fog]

i refuse ot overclock anything

[frozen urchin]

But I have a ftw3 ultra card so the tripple fan and huge heat sink helps out and normally on auto it will only go to 65C

[candid fog]

with a 1060 its gonna be very unstable

[keen nacelle]

thats not how ocing works

[frozen urchin]

Overclock until it’s unstable

[keen nacelle]

i can do +210 core and +1200 mem for benching

well, 1100 and 100 from factory

its top 100 in timespy, if it had a second pcie power cable itd be top 25

[frozen urchin]

What card

Maybe I’m wrong but I thought top 25 in timespy was all pro overclocked with access to dual 3090 ti’s

[odd siren]

You can be top 100 for specific hardware

[hasty sphinx]

eh, I had a $11 gift card on amazon anyways so I just grabbed the 8g+spatula just because.

[frozen urchin]

My bad

[frozen urchin]

I should try. I only benchmark for fun though

I know there is always going to be someone better than me

[keen nacelle]

oh sorry, 3060 ti

[grizzled nimbus]

whats that actually lol

report actual clock, not offset

[keen nacelle]

i dont remember those off of the top of my head, so i gave the offsets.

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/25848360

[frozen urchin]

Clock of 2175 is impressive

But the average is 2023

[keen nacelle]

ye, issue is the pl

[frozen urchin]

Is that temp limited? 57C looks fine

[keen nacelle]

only has a single 8 pin instead of 2

[frozen urchin]

Ah

[keen nacelle]

nah, 100% fans and a literal room fan blowing right into the case with it open lmao

[frozen urchin]

Is your 3060 ti well binned?

2175 is high

[keen nacelle]

yeah

[frozen urchin]

Really high

Clock doesn’t matter though right? It’s just average?

Because how long was your gpu really at 2175

[keen nacelle]

not sure, awsnt watching it during the bench

[frozen urchin]

Oh

It makes me want to try it

It’s just kinda scary overclocking because past like 2050 my card starts to black screen and revert

[keen nacelle]

yeah that means its unstable

so that is your limit

dont oc past that

[frozen urchin]

It came factory overclocked to 1800 and the OC Scan brought it up to 1995 and then I manually did it to 2050 but I only do 2025 in games

How did you get so high? That’s all binning right?

[keen nacelle]

yeah, lottery

[frozen urchin]

Just silicon lottery

Yeah

It’s sad for lack of a better word to think that sometimes you will just never have the highest score because of luck. Doesn’t matter how much money you spend

[brave thorn]

my temperature on my gpu reaches 130 idle

same with my cpu

and it’s not under stress or even over clocked

i went through and minimized the functions and still reaching 100 F idle

it’s a brand 3060 TI

brand new*

[keen nacelle]

Idle Temps aren't super important, load Temps matter more

Though that is a bit high for idle

I'd check Temps while gaming, if they're hitting ~90 let us know

90 celsius that is

[brave thorn]

even on startup it’s absurdly high

but i opened up the case and it felt cold

im using fan cooling

and i’m transferring it to liquid

but yes i’ll keep updated

[deep surge]

100F is around 38C which is normal for an idle cpu and gpu

The most important thing is how it performs under load as pato said

[frozen urchin]

Bruh everyone in this thread has a 3060 ti

I guess I’m not the only one who sees it’s great

30% uplift over 3060

And trades blows with a 2080/ 2080 super

[keen nacelle]

3060 ti is the best price/perf card in 30 series, followed by 3080

[frozen urchin]

That’s why I got it

[brave thorn]

i got it as a prebuilt from nzxt and i’m just going to upgrade it from there

[vital oriole]

100f means nothing lol

use celcius

100f is literally 37c

37c idle is good

fahrenheit just makes it seem pretty high

[brave thorn]

130 degrees isn’t high for startup/idle?

[magic wing]

Use celcius

[brave thorn]

54 C

[magic wing]

Nope

[brave thorn]

Okay

[vital oriole]

That's pretty normal

[brave thorn]

should drop after i put liquid cooling in?

[magic wing]

I idle at 65c

[vital oriole]

I doubt it

Idle means nothing

Load temps matters the most

[magic wing]

Load is 90c

For me

[vital oriole]

As long as it could cool itself without hitting thermal throttling

It's fine really

80-90c is where I'd start to worry, but if it doesn't throttle

It'll take it just fine

[brave thorn]

okay

[keen nacelle]

You said it's nzxt?

Your first upgrade should be a new case

[vital oriole]

It's definitely got h510 case lol

[keen nacelle]

Ofc

Because nzxt

[brave thorn]

ya i do

[restive grove]

NZXT doesn't make bad cases, they are typically very solid

[cerulean rover]

Ha... Ha... Ha...

[vital oriole]

that's a good joke

[ivory herald]

📠 , no 🖨️

[vital oriole]

it's simply fascinating how cases could still be so bad in airflow

we had like decades of evolution

and some cases are still like, as bad in cooling as 90's cases

[restive grove]

Compare that to something by Raidmax

[ivory herald]

mid to late 2000's is goated.

[restive grove]

Stop poking fun at Coolermaster, my original case was like an Antec 400

[ivory herald]

That is my case, wise guy. I'll show the insides later. I also have a Antec 300 for the spare PC and those were literally "cheaper". Could be had for $50 or so

[vital oriole]

ah yes, the side intakes

that's pretty old stuff

saw it on a ton of cases when i was a kid

[ivory herald]

They helped gpu temps quite a bit, but I prefer the single bottom intake because sideways fan towards the "exhaust" of a gpu's heatsink is funky.