graphics-cards

[tribal raft]

does a 6600 have something like nvenc?

[keen nacelle]

No

If you're recording or streaming, id go 3060

[tribal raft]

ok ty

[keen nacelle]

If you're making a full new build, what's your budget?

[tribal raft]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3060-rtx-3060-ventus-2x-12g-oc/p/N82E16814137632?Item=N82E16814137632&Description=3060&cm_re=3060-_-14-137-632-_-Product is this a good price for a 3060?

[tribal raft]

for only the pc 1000 and however much the peripherals are

[keen nacelle]

Kk

One min

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZPQBLs

[tribal raft]

the price is perfect and ty

[hearty widget]

ummmm. I dont think my graphics card has a slot for the power scource

[fading glacier]

wdym

[normal hawk]

No 6 or 8 pin power connector

[lost nebula]

which is better MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 3060 12GB or MSI Mech Radeon RX 6600 XT 8GB?

[heady turtle]

6600xt is a bit better like 8% ish

[livid idol]

A good bit yeah depending on the game

[heady turtle]

But I'd avoid mech/ventus if possible

[livid idol]

6600XT is on the top

[heady turtle]

Damm Valorant really like rdna2 huh?

[livid idol]

Seems like it

The other biggest gap ones are AMD partner games

Down to RE:Village

[heady turtle]

Afaik Valorant isn't partnered tho which is interesting

[livid idol]

Or wait... was RE:V partnered...

I know RDR2 was

And Dirt

I'm starting to think this list is skewed

Similar results so I guess it's not too skewed

[vital oriole]

yep

re:v is amd partnered title

[hollow heath]

Are prices stabilizing?

[livid idol]

Mostly. Inventory is staying in stock for a while too.

[hollow heath]

How much do you think a used 6700XT goes for?

[heady turtle]

Depends on the country

[round dawn]

They go for like $650 I believe

US

Oh Nevermind there is one for $500 on Newegg it’s the 2 fan MSI model

6900xt for MSRP too nvidia cards still have a little to go but way better than a few months ago

[livid idol]

I've seen some 6900XT models for below msrp

Usually after a rebate or something

[hollow heath]

I'm in the US

I have the founders

[jovial goblet]

prices in my area have gone down nearly 25% since december

[dreamy dragon]

Luushun#7882 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[round dawn]

Even though nvidia hasn’t gone down to msrp yet I’m still not smart and got a 3080 vision for 1k🙃

[vital oriole]

shoulda got 3080ti, it's at msrp rn

[round dawn]

Is it worth it over a 3080?

[livid idol]

That's the white model right? They always cost more, we refer to it as the white tax lol

[vital oriole]

oh white

yes

that's expected

[round dawn]

And yea it’s white but it was one of the ones in stock but there’s a evga one for $870 that I could’ve gotten

[vital oriole]

yeah, definitely white tax then

[dreamy dragon]

Luushun#7882 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[round dawn]

Yea but man do I love me a white build

[vital oriole]

it's fine really

if you can afford it, enjoy it

white stuff will always cost more for some reason

probably less availability

[livid idol]

Supply < Demand

[vital oriole]

ye

it's got more demand than supply

[keen nacelle]

rm 850 white is a good price rn

same price as other black 850s

[vital oriole]

psus are a kinda different case

they're odd, i'd say

[keen nacelle]

mm

mostly gpu that costs more

also aios

[vital oriole]

and mobos

[livid idol]

PSUs are covered up most of the time so less demand even in white builds

[keen nacelle]

p400a digital white and 4000d airflow white are decent for the price compared to black alternatives

[vital oriole]

white pcb mobos need to come back

[livid idol]

Nah too much at that point, more white accents though...

[keen nacelle]

white cpu when

[livid idol]

Probably at the same time as a white fan controller

[vital oriole]

wut, msi even had h310 with white pcb

this is b360 tho

but still

i think it looks fine

but definitely a bit much

b450 too?

okay that's pretty recent

[livid idol]

That B450 has at least a little less white so it's less blinding

[vital oriole]

ye

[ivory herald]

Yuck, as if someone took a rattle can to it

[round dawn]

I’ve seen a video of someone plasti dipping a mobo

[livid idol]

Well, I guess that would work if it was non-conductive plastic and they covered the slots so they didn't get water or gunk in them

[round dawn]

Yea they used painters tape over anything important

[brave jolt]

Hey newegg homies!! Has anyone in here ever had problems with your screen turning black randomly for a few seconds at a time when playing games? Its super annoying. Been happening to me a lot. Im thinking it may be power draw or temperature but not sure. running a 3090 and 5950x

[hasty sphinx]

Your pc is broken. Send it to me and get yourself a new one.

[brave jolt]

this thing is pretty broken tbh getting tired of it

[heady turtle]

I'd try DDU, there's a guide in the pins

[brave jolt]

thanks man

[bright bolt]

I kinda already have an idea, but I just want to make sure. The GTX 960 is awful for gaming right?

[keen nacelle]

depends what youre doing

but generally, yes

[bright bolt]

Gaming

[keen nacelle]

again

depends what youre doing, depends on the games

call of duty, not it wont run

csgo, valorant, minecraft, its fine

[bright bolt]

So easier to handle games. Nothing too graphic intensive.

[keen nacelle]

yes

[bright bolt]

Thank you

[keen nacelle]

are you making a new build

?

[bright bolt]

Nope. I am taking a look at someone's computer.

[keen nacelle]

ah

[bright bolt]

Thank you again for the help

[keen nacelle]

np

[thorny fox]

That board needs to make a return to todays standards

[thorny fox]

Would also depend on the build your going for.

[thorny fox]

Not bad but just a little too much black for the build I'd do.

[heady turtle]

THE D15 IS ON BACKWARDS REEEEE

[green harness]

The is the top-right fan on exhaust as well? That'd actually be an issue

[vital oriole]

backwards cooler

ouch

[heady turtle]

Yeah the top fans in the case are exhaust, that's normal

[green harness]

Nah, it's not good to have an exhaust fan in front of your tower cooler as it is stealing air from the cooler. Better to have no fan or flip that fan so it's intake

It being a common mistake doesn't make it good

[heady turtle]

Yeah it's not the best, it's fine tho

[green harness]

idk it's such a simple fix, just flip the fan

[ember eagle]

What’s a good price for a 3090?

[keen nacelle]

What you doing with it?

Because 3080 12gb is $1k rn

And very similar gaming perf

[ember eagle]

Nah just curious saw a ftw3 card posted for 1.6k

[green harness]

1.6k is a good price

Somewhere between that and 1.8 is "good" imo

Still a terrible value card for gaming ofc

[heady turtle]

It's a "good price" but only if you need the vram for production and not gaming

[velvet grail]

Can external GPU be connected to laptop via a PCIe x16 - USB to a normal usb port on the pc?

(obviously by using also a normal ATX PSU)

[heady turtle]

You'd need usb c, probably thunderbolt for it to work properly

[hasty sphinx]

https://youtu.be/kdCwoP_GODY

[keen nacelle]

Did anyone actually ask this question

First off, stupid asf question

[hasty sphinx]

no, I thought it was interesting

[keen nacelle]

Second, 12400 3060 beats both

Also not talking crap to you

Just seems like a stupid question to ask lol

[hasty sphinx]

I suppose. but as someone who doesn't know much, I thought it interesting to know.

[keen nacelle]

Maybe "3090 ti 12100f vs 12900ks 3050: whats the difference" would make more sense

Def interesting, just seems like a stupid way of wording it

[green harness]

One wins at 1080p and the other at 4k I imagine

[golden pond]

I currently have an msi 2070 duke 8g. What would be a good upgrade at current gen? or would i be better off waiting for 4k series?

[heady turtle]

At this rate I'd wait for 40 series/rx 7000

[hasty sphinx]

will a 1kw PSU be ok to use high end 40 series/rx7000?

[livid idol]

7000 won't be needing as much power as 40. Expect the 4090 to use 500-550W stock with a max around 600W, and also remember the issues with power spikes on the high end so it might hit 750W for a short time and trip OPP.

[hasty sphinx]

ok, what would you recommend for the 4090/12600k?

[ivory herald]

I recommend waiting for more psus that are actually "made" for 40 series, idk.

[hasty sphinx]

ok

because my 12600k only draws 200w at max

[ivory herald]

well tbh I'd probably aim for a 850w, perhaps a 1000w if one is a decent price (and A-tier of course).

[stoic phoenix]

Do i really need a 4k series tho if what i play isnt that intense

I could prob use a 3070 for Elden But i dont think needing 4k series is neccessary for it

[ivory herald]

Only if playing at 4K. 3070 and 3080 are definitely pretty good at 1440p or below. Elden Ring is generally locked to 60fps anyways.

[stoic phoenix]

I assume theres also not much difference between a 3070ti and 3080 ?

[heady turtle]

For 4090 with leaked power limits I'd go 1k minimum but aim for 1200+

[heady turtle]

There's basically a margin of error difference between 3070 and 3070 ti, 3080 is like a 15%? Upgrade

[stoic phoenix]

So not that much more of a upgrade

Whats margin of error difference mean

Sorry im like, idk much about pcs

wrong emote my bad

[ivory herald]

As in 70 ti isn't much faster than non-ti. 3080 has that 15ish % of performance above a 3070 (ti) for another $150ish. 70 ti is often bought lately because the plain 3070 is somewhat scarce.

[heady turtle]

Like 2% between 3070 and 3070 ti

[stoic phoenix]

So i can basically just do a 3070 without much difference unless id wanna spend a bit more for a 3080

[supple mural]

nice

i am suck with a gt710 lol

[heady turtle]

15% is a decent amount, although haven't looked a diff in a while could be wrong feel like 15% is a decent jump tho

[stoic phoenix]

Mmmmm

I'

ll look into it rn lmaoo

Just tryna have a set template before i like further save

[heady turtle]

Yeah although sometimes 3070 ti is cheaper, in that case go for it

[stoic phoenix]

WILL DO !

Thank u !

[ivory herald]

$850ish is definitely a solid chunk too (for 3080, 10GB). Not many games or setups actually need more than 8GB vram.

[stoic phoenix]

oh i was looking at the evga one

3080

rgb one

thats like 920ish with tax i think

[heady turtle]

Which one you should get depends on what the availability/pricing is like when you're buying tbh

[stoic phoenix]

yeah im aware haha

im not in a rush for it rn so

i can jsut wait till prices are slightly more at a comfy level

[heady turtle]

They're pretty decent atm imo, sure 3070s are like ~700? But they're worth 700 tbh lol

[stoic phoenix]

oooh i found a decent priced 3070ti

[fervent knot]

isnt 40 series supposed to be 2 times better?

[ivory herald]

[vital oriole]

2 times?

no

i doubt it

but 50% gains is feasible

[fervent knot]

i thought it was double performance

[vital oriole]

it's not 2 times lol

realistically it's gonna have 50% gains

[fervent knot]

the 4090?

[vital oriole]

not sure

[magic wing]

wait till u see radeon 7000 series

:)

[fervent knot]

i think i might swithch to nvidia

[livid idol]

Leaks say 75-120% better depending on power limit for the 4090

[fervent knot]

i have had amd for a pretty long time

will i have to upgrade my psu

if i go for like a next gen mid range

like the 3060 ti

or 3070

[magic wing]

Dont cross amd off

[livid idol]

If you go AMD you won't need to upgrade the PSU, it's looking like same performance for less power and less price

[magic wing]

trust me

[ivory herald]

Nvidia is shooting for the moon w/ performance but AMD will actually care about power efficiency a bit

[livid idol]

They've got the big/little thing going on AMD next gen, so yields are better than monolithic and it uses less power

[magic wing]

slightly more perf from amd is entirely possible

[livid idol]

Depends on final specs, the only reason nvidia is considering 600W max power limit is they feel very threatened by AMD

[fervent knot]

they should be

[magic wing]

also should be a big announcement thats been coming a while from amd in a month or 2

that will change everything

[livid idol]

If AMD can get within 5% of the 4090 at 20% less power or better that's an easy win to call

[fervent knot]

isnt there intel arc gpus

[magic wing]

I cant tell u what it is because NDA

but i can say its gonna be big

[livid idol]

Those are comparable to the 3070 at the high end, too little too late

[vital oriole]

^

intel is gonna be the budget option, maybe

they'll have to cut prices hard tho

if 40 series comes

[fervent knot]

im going to save about 500-700 for a gpu

[livid idol]

Yeah, second gen intel stuff should be better, like when AMD went RDNA to RDNA2

[vital oriole]

ye

intel is pretty insistent on this at least

their leaked roadmap shows as far as 4th gen intel gpus

[livid idol]

The engineer I was talking to hated when I compared them to AMD lol

[vital oriole]

lol

the intel engineer?

[livid idol]

Yeah one of the guys doing hardware and firmware for Arc

I met him at a best buy drop

[magic wing]

sheeeeee

[vital oriole]

that's some lucky find

[magic wing]

lol man was working on the gpu and still bougt nvidia because arc 1st gen is mehh

[vital oriole]

that really shows

[livid idol]

Remember though, it's Arc with a C because Ark with a K is their specs database 🙃

[magic wing]

ahhhhh trueeeeee

i cant believe ive done this

intel needs toi stop calling stuff arc\ark

watch their next lineup of products be called arq

[vital oriole]

i wouldn't be surprised if they use volta

but nvidia would ree at it

[livid idol]

"Intel Arque, a distinguished GPU for distinguished individuals"

[vital oriole]

[heady turtle]

[livid idol]

R/technicallythetruth

[velvet grail]

You mean like usb C to usb C?
Or usb A (riser) and usb C (laptop)?

Do you know any cheap risers for GPU?

[mighty island]

anyone know if you can run 5 monitors off of a gtx 1060 with 5 display outputs? i'm 95% sure only 4 can be used at the same time but not 100%

[velvet grail]

Mmmh... Never tried that btw one is dvi so you'll probably need an adapter or compatible monitor

[hasty sphinx]

and I'm a french model...

[velvet grail]

Huh

[hasty sphinx]

old commercial about believing things on the internet

a guy claming he was a frrench model to date a sexy lady

when he was actually gross

but since the internet said he was a french model she still went with him

[velvet grail]

[tacit inlet]

[heady turtle]

Well it would need to be usb c to pcie lol?

[hasty sphinx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZbSlkFoSU

[velvet grail]

@heady turtle I want something similar to this one, that connects with usb C to a laptop, as you can see the cable starts with usb A (and in my case it should end with the usb C connector)
I thought there could be a riser with usb c on both sides (of the cable)

[tacit inlet]

[velvet grail]

Do you mean a riser with the usb c cable directly connected and that can't be removed?
@heady turtle

Not much of a performance drop, maybe it is because the GPU isn't very powerful and doesn't bottleneck via usb...?

https://youtu.be/-cacembsZbY

Also.. it's for an nvidia tesla

[heady turtle]

Oh right that might work i guess

[heady turtle]

Whichever is the way its done idk

[velvet grail]

So anything good? Just need the usb c because yes

[livid idol]

If you do get a riser adapter like that the USB will need thunderbolt, because it'll only work over PCIe

And depending on the version of thunderbolt you might be limited to 3.0 2x

You'll also need a way to power the slot since it needs to supply 75W to the GPU

[velvet grail]

I've got the PSU to power it, I know nothing about thunderbolt

[livid idol]

If the USB supports it there's supposed a lightning bolt icon next to it

It's usually a more premium feature found in more expensive models

[velvet grail]

Can you find me one? If it doesn't bother you

[livid idol]

A laptop with thunderbolt?

Or what?

[velvet grail]

No, a riser

Compatible

No

Wait

What the heck am I saying

Nothing... Don't need to search

But why do I need thunderbolt if then the riser has the usb A connector? Bottleneck?

[livid idol]

Thunderbolt is directly linked to the PCIe lanes

The GPU only knows how to communicate via PCIe

[heady turtle]

Also you need a thunderbolt port, should look like a usb c port with a lighting bolt

[velvet grail]

The laptop has got it

[velvet grail]

Getting a bit confused...

[livid idol]

Which model? I'll check what version it is

[livid idol]

Thunderbolt is both a USB port and a PCIe interface in one. This allows things like capture cards and GPUs over the thunderbolt port.

[velvet grail]

Example: ^
All the risers I can found have usb to usb connector, no usb c/thunderbolt

Btw the laptop supports thunderbolt 3.0

[livid idol]

Ah good

That should allow at least 2, maybe 4 PCIe lanes.

[velvet grail]

Why?

[livid idol]

This is the only one I could find that isn't $300+
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005003666974044.html

[livid idol]

Why what? Why maybe 2 lanes?

[velvet grail]

Maybe I'm getting confused

You have to explain me difference between PCIe x1, x4, x8, x16 and if it is the same as "lanes" 2, 4,...?

What's the difference in performance and the physical difference?

Also won't pay 100€ for PCIe riser, maybe max. 20€

[hasty sphinx]

hm

[hasty sphinx]

I think I have one of those. what is thunderbolt for?

[heady turtle]

Display, high speed data transfer etc

[ivory herald]

No we don't, but I will 🤣 . Yes, x1 x4 w/e generally is "lanes". The big pcie slots are x16 physically but sometimes the lower ones are x4 or x8 "electrically" because it's cheaper & most people only need 1 slot that's x16 (for gpu). Look at this pic for how lanes relate to bandwidth

[velvet grail]

@livid idol i searched online some risers, found these used ones: v009s, 7€
v009 plus, 8€
v010, 9€

[velvet grail]

Are the versions just like PCIe 2.0/3.0/4.0...?

[velvet grail]

What's the limit for usb 3.0 bandwidth?

Just to know if it will bottleneck the Nvidia Tesla

[livid idol]

5-10 Gbps depending on version

[ivory herald]

Aka .8-1.3ish GB/s. (Bits vs bytes)

[livid idol]

Don't those all connect to the PCIe slot though?

Also the GPU isn't going to be able to communicate over regular USB

[velvet grail]

Can't they be connected externally to a normal usb port? The have the usb to usb cable

[velvet grail]

Oh

Mmmh

So is the only option the thunderbolt?/usb c

[livid idol]

It only uses the USB as a passthrough, it's still communicating using PCIe

[velvet grail]

🥲

[livid idol]

Yes

[velvet grail]

Aaand... Nothing under 100€?

[livid idol]

Well there's the one I linked before for $90 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003666974044.html

Free shipping from the US too

[velvet grail]

Does it explode? Just kidding

[livid idol]

Another big difference between the thunderbolt and regular USB ones is the cheap ones only support 3.0 x1 speed while the thunderbolt one can go to 3.0 x4

[velvet grail]

@livid idol the card in question is the nvidi Tesla M40 24gb, will there be a drop in performance compared to itself mounted on a normal PCIe on motherboard

[livid idol]

It depends on what you're doing with it and how much bandwidth it needs

But there's a strong chance that it will bottleneck on a x1 link

[ivory herald]

thunderport 2 is good for 2.5GB/s & Thunderport 3 allows 5GB/s. Pcie 3 x4 is around 4GB/s. Would probably be fine if the riser has x4 & a thunderbolt 3 setup.

[velvet grail]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/tesla-m40-24-gb.c3838

[livid idol]

An x4 link... maybe

[livid idol]

That's an "up to" spec but yes.

[velvet grail]

The fact that I never had to deal with thunderbolt and usb c (and PCIe, too) makes me look stupid, I know literally nothing

Stuck with usb B mini

[livid idol]

Nah not stupid, just inexperienced with this stuff

That's why we ask questions, to learn more

[ivory herald]

From what I've seen of gpus gaming at x16 x8 x4, based on framerates & how that adjusts needed bandwith, only certain games saw lower performance. I'm not sure how it'll be w/ that Tesla card. Lookup the "pcie scaling" reviews at Techpowerup if you want to learn about what I'm referring to

[velvet grail]

I'm doing all this to search for the right PCIe riser that my friends need, 100€ could be good instead of building an entire pc with 250€

So, yes, 150€ less

Good

[velvet grail]

Can't be shipped to Italy... 😐
I searched on AliExpress.it but it is 160€

[glacial kelp]

Any ideas why my PC won't restart unless I unplug the displays literally from the GPU (3600ti), then replug them after it restarts?

I ran furmark with no issues on the GPU.

Not even the bios prompts appear.

Hm, will try a DDU, today one of the displays broke, maybe it's related to that.

[hollow heath]

I kinda wanna sell my 6700 XT

Get something less powerful and cheaper

[round dawn]

I almost wanna do the same but with my 3080

[elder moss]

hey, I got a asus rog strix rtx 2070 from some guy on marketplace, and after that he blocked me.. I am unsure if the gpu is working or not or electrically short inside.. if i put it on my mobo to test it, will it damage any other part of my PC?

[livid idol]

Extremely unlikely for it to cause other damage

[sullen panther]

does anyone know how hot the vram gets on Aorus Master RTX 3080 ti?

for mining

i cant find any info on it

[livid idol]

Test it and find out.
Nbminer just unlocked 100% on LHR btw

[sullen panther]

i dont own it

someone wants to trade my 3060ti, 3900x build for a 3080ti

[livid idol]

Ah I see. Well in general you'll probably want to change the thermal pads on most GDDR6X. It'll hit over 100C when overclocked in many cases if you don't.

[keen nacelle]

Unless you're getting money on top, bad trade

[sullen panther]

Really? I don't think it's that bad

It's a 3900x, stock cooler, micro ATX board with 8gb ram and a 3060ti

I'm actually keeping the storage, case and psu

[heady turtle]

8gb ram 💀

[keen nacelle]

Ah

[sullen panther]

Yep :)

And it's very slow ram on top of that

[heady turtle]

Bro get 16gb ram at least

[sullen panther]

I don't use it for gaming so I don't need it

And I don't use it for productive stuff too

[tacit inlet]

Then whats the 3060 ti and r9 3900x for?

[sullen panther]

Mining

[heady turtle]

16gb is like minimum for doing any sort of multi tasking even tho, also single channel ram sucks

[sullen panther]

Well it's two 4 gb sticks

[heady turtle]

And i doubt you have 2x4gb

Oh

Still

[sullen panther]

My main PC has 32 gb

That PC I'm trading just needed the ram to mine. On Linux and that's it

[heady turtle]

Ohhh

Why not mine with 3060 ti in main pc?

[sullen panther]

Got a 3080ti

[heady turtle]

So use both

[sullen panther]

I am

[heady turtle]

In the same pc tho

[sullen panther]

Oh na temps would be worse

[heady turtle]

Not hugely

[livid idol]

Windows 10 not debloated will want 5+ gb of ram just to run, leaving very little for browser etc

[sullen panther]

Well hope he upgrades the ram then

Ram isn't even that expensive the last time I looked

[livid idol]

Nah a good 2x8gb set is like $75

[sullen panther]

It used to be a good bit more

So to me that's not bad

[torpid garden]

Not since 2018

[ember eagle]

Ik the 6500xt is bad but like it’s on sale for 209$ thoughts?

[keen nacelle]

No

[ember eagle]

Figured

[keen nacelle]

Can get a 1650s for that used now

Easily

I've seen 1660s for that

[ember eagle]

Is it really that bad 💀

[keen nacelle]

6500xt loses to 1650 super

[ember eagle]

I kinda figured it would be better than a 1650 since some don’t even got pcie power

Damn lol

[keen nacelle]

1650 vs 6500xt I think 6500xt wins by a little bit

[ember eagle]

Yeah but ay that point rather get a used 1650 for like 180 no tax

[keen nacelle]

But id go for 1650s, 1660, 1660s, 1060 6gb, 570/580

1070 too

[ember eagle]

Nah I was just scrolling through Amazon deals

Found it funny that it was that low

[keen nacelle]

Can grab one of those for $250 or so and it's on par with 2060

[keen nacelle]

They've been that low

Ones at $200 consistently since release

Sapphire something or other I think

[ember eagle]

And really figured it would atleast be the same perf as a 1060/970

[keen nacelle]

Nah

970=1050 ti

6500xt>1050 ti

1060 3gb as well

1060 6gb>1650 super

[ember eagle]

Figured

4gb is the minimum for most games now sad to see how bad the 3gb 1060 aged

[keen nacelle]

I'd aim for a 6gb card, atleast not unless it's a 1650 or super at around 150 or si

570/580 4gb alr too

[livid idol]

6500XT would be a last resort and only given the slightest consideration if you have a PCIe 4.0 compatible system

[heady turtle]

Save another 50 or so for a 3050 or go used

[ember eagle]

On the topic

Anyone got a tear down video of an Evga 3070ti

Ftw3 rgb one

[heady turtle]

✨google✨

[ember eagle]

True I was going through yt but I could only find regular 3070s

Ima try Reddit was just kinda wondering if there was a website I should check first lol

[livid idol]

ifixit sometimes has model specific guides

[heady turtle]

Search it on YouTube as well

[finite viper]

Okay i need some help with my gpu issus

Its a laptop

It wont use %100 on my 3060

[vital oriole]

what game?

[finite viper]

Any game

[vital oriole]

well

[finite viper]

CP 2077, Hell Let Loose,

[vital oriole]

it depends on your settings and the game

[finite viper]

They are cranked

[vital oriole]

what's the laptop's specs?

[finite viper]

I5-11400h and 3060 105W

[vital oriole]

hm, that's a little odd

[finite viper]

Yep

I gave up on it and went to school

The only time i got it to %100 is on beamng drive

[dreamy dragon]

Bacon#2090 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[finite viper]

Beuh

Im also noticing very little settings in nvidia control panel compared to my other laptop that had the 1650

Like i cant change reaolution settings for my monitor in it, i cant overclock my monitor in it

[keen nacelle]

Using what to view usage

[finite viper]

Task manager

[vital oriole]

task manager is inaccurate

try using afterburner for in-game realtime info

[finite viper]

I use that and geforce expirience, but i barely rely on that

[keen nacelle]

Msi afterburner is much more accurate

[finite viper]

I will try that after i get hone from work later

But what im noticing in hell let loose is that it uses like 4.7gb vram and around 45-60 usage

And its around 52fps

[cerulean rover]

Perhaps you'll want to check power settings

[keen nacelle]

evga is smoking smthn

[heady turtle]

Not as bad as b stock 1k 2080 ti kek

2nd one is pretty bad

[green harness]

It seems like they still manage to sell em, and as long as that keeps up they won't drop prices

[brisk flame]

980 for 230 doesnt even seem terrible

but lol at the 100 dollar price increase for a different cooler

i cant imagine what else you would go and buy for 230... i think the 3050 hardly performs any better than a 980

[keen nacelle]

can get a 1650s easily for 230

1060 6gb

[brisk flame]

p sure the 980 is still the better card

[keen nacelle]

980 ti=1070

980=1650 super iirc

or 1060 6gb

forget which

[brisk flame]

that sounds about right

but getting a 1650 super for that price or less involves ebay

[finite viper]

It hits that 105w constantly

[cerulean rover]

might be time to uv then

[finite viper]

Maybe

Im gonna need some help with that

[cerulean rover]

grab gpuz just in case and see what it says as perfcap

[finite viper]

Bet

What do i use to undervolt?

Msi afterburner?

[cerulean rover]

ye

might be a uv guide around here somewhere

[finite viper]

Thanks

Whats the gpu test app thing?

Its called furmark?

I feel liek thats the right name

[cerulean rover]

3dmark good for testing normally

[finite viper]

Okay bet

[cerulean rover]

furmark is heavy but because of that, may not be accurate for normal cases

[finite viper]

Okay, i will test that tonight

Ive got schoo and then work so yea

[heady turtle]

How to undervolt your gpu - recommend using 3d mark timespy (3d mark demo on steam) for testing instead, one run per increment dropped
https://youtu.be/zUkPAVcb9Xc

[wicked hound]

I'd probs use Apex or smth for core testing, Atomic Heart Demo if you got RTX. They are both more sensitive to clocks then TS. That or find instability on TS and then add a decent offset rather then a small offset so stability is so close to the edge.

[velvet grail]

355€ for 1660s? Good?

In my opinion it is still a bit expensive

New

[quartz gull]

3080 12GB for $810 brand new at retail is absurd af

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3080-ventus-3x-plus-12g-oc-lhr/p/N82E16814137712?Item=N82E16814137712&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-137-712-_-05092022

I never thought I'd see the day tbh

[ivory herald]

Ventus is the kicker

[quartz gull]

Watered down 3080ti essentially for $800

Eh I used to have a ventus card, they at least hit base spec LOL

[radiant panther]

whats wrong with the ventus

[keen nacelle]

bad model

itll be fine enough if youre not mining though

[ivory herald]

Undervolt could help it a lot for a tiny performance loss. I'll wait until a good cooler model is similar price

[keen nacelle]

eh. it wont throttle for gaming

as mr111 pointed out earlier in build chat

[ivory herald]

Close enough. I don't like them temps, but undervolt also helps wattage quite a bit is a better reason to do it.

[keen nacelle]

mm

[radiant panther]

so its fine for gaming?

[keen nacelle]

that would be what i said yes

[frank fox]

Hi quick question. Trying to plan to build a pc and debating between getting a nvidia 3000 series or "wait" for the 4000. For prior would 3050 suffice for most gaming? For the latter, which GPU should I get to wait for 4000 stuff?

[keen nacelle]

depends on what you do, what you want to spend, how patient you are

[frank fox]

I'm not looking for 4k gaming and stuff or latest AAA.

Just want a decent/good pc to play games and use for everyday stuff.

[keen nacelle]

then depends what you want to spend and how patient you are

can try for a good deal on a gpu rn until 40 series launch

[frank fox]

which ones/prices are considered "good"

[rustic pulsar]

whats ur budget

[frank fox]

with inflated price and stuff I am looking between 1k ~ 1.5k before tax and all

[keen nacelle]

for the whole build?

[rustic pulsar]

^

[frank fox]

I guess

[rustic pulsar]

then prolly 3060 ti

maybe 3070 if u can find a good price

or 3070 ti

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MZyCd9

[frank fox]

So are prices expected to drop/lower?

[rustic pulsar]

yeah maybe a bit

[frank fox]

Thanks for build and advice!

[keen nacelle]

np

[frank fox]

I will check if I can swap other stuff

and see

[keen nacelle]

i like you, youre appreciate and nice

as opposed to the person arguing with me in #building-and-recc-chat

[frank fox]

Well when I have no idea where to start

I appreciate someone giving me a direction to start lol

[rustic pulsar]

@frank fox if u are patient, u could find a 3070 or 3070ti for <600$ on EVGA bstock (like new, but may be marked a bit) https://www.evga.com/products/ProductList.aspx?type=8&family=GeForce+30+Series+Family

[keen nacelle]

eh, difficult

also have to be an evga elite member

[frank fox]

im fine with 3060

heck even 3050 is fine for me

[rustic pulsar]

i would stick with 3060 ti, its a big jump up from a 3060

[proud verge]

EVGA is selling graphics cards for good deals now

I'm so annoyed I got a 3070 and a few days later this happens

[lean jasper]

Rtx 3080 fe good?

[proud verge]

753 euros excluding VAT

[livid idol]

Yes, and the FE models are full hash rate so you can mine on it easily to get back some of your money

[molten knoll]

lol same but i got a 3070ti bout a month and a half ago could of purchased a 3080 for what i paid

[keen nacelle]

I could've built a 5600x 3080 pc for what my 3060 ti 3600 build cost me

[molten knoll]

yea been thinking of selling mine and upgrading to a 3080 but at this point probably not worth it ill just wait and see if i can get my hands on a 40 series card when they come out

[finite viper]

still bad

i cant fix it

furmark makes it go to %100

[cerulean rover]

Time to blame software ig

[finite viper]

i guess

[rustic pulsar]

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3751-KL&associatecode=T1STH5CGA65DO4F

[green harness]

Well everything is effectively fhr atm

[keen nacelle]

aside from 3080 12gb and 3050

[green harness]

Oh, are those not covered by the new full hash rate unlock?

[keen nacelle]

nah, theyre lhr v3.0

[green harness]

Interesting

[vital oriole]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-a370m-has-been-tested-by-pcworld-small-alchemist-with-geforce-rtx-3050-performance

not bad

it matches 3050 mobile

at similar power limits too

35-50w

[heady turtle]

Seems amd.com only stocks 6750xt and 6950xt now

[magic wing]

bruh

[frank fox]

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3665-KL

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3667-KL

What is the diff between these two

[rustic pulsar]

the ultra has a higher core clock

i would say its worth it for an extra 10 bucks

[frank fox]

thanks

[vital oriole]

eh

you can literally oc lol

[gray bloom]

is $1473 on amd.com usd or cad?

[heady turtle]

Amd.com uses local currency so whichever country your in

[gray bloom]

oh i see got it thanks

6950xt kinda a steal for that price if i didnt have 3080 would have bought that

for almost same price

[rustic pulsar]

Don’t cards with higher stock OC typically have more headroom for manual OC

[heady turtle]

Nah not really 6900xt is available for a good bit cheaper

[heady turtle]

Different models do, not sure about oc vs non oc variants and most people won't oc much where it will matter if at all

[vital oriole]

^

[bright bolt]

Hello I am currently looking at a laptop. "IdeaPad 5 15ARE05" my friend says it has a Ryzen 7 CPU in it and I know it has integrated graphics, but I am trying to find the equivalent GPU it has. She is using it for gaming, 2D VTuber Modeling and general day to day activities like YouTube, Music, ETC. She says it is high-end, but she is very limited on the things she can do. I am looking to find out the GPU she has. I know it is integrated graphics, but I am trying to find the equivalent to it if that makes sense.

[vital oriole]

The equivalent of it is a gt 1030

[bright bolt]

Thank you

[vital oriole]

It has vega 7 or 6, I think

[bright bolt]

I know it is a dumb question, but for the laptop above. The "IdeaPad 5 15ARE05" I relayed the messaged you sent me and she is asking if it is possible to upgrade. I said it was integrated graphics, so no, but she is asking for me to double check.

[vital oriole]

That laptop probably has no ram slots too

As far as I remember

[bright bolt]

So no to the PCI and PCI-S and no to RAM Slots?

[frigid anvil]

Sadly only real things you can upgrade on must laptops is the storage drive/OS and RAM.

Everything else is usually built in.

[cerulean rover]

There's a few laptops that will let you swap out GPU for a select few replacements but those are very rare

[round dawn]

You could go for external gpu

[livid idol]

Yeah but for that price you should just get a better laptop lol

[frank fox]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare?CompareItemList=14-932-468%2C14-137-673%2C14-137-672%2C9SIAYTVGE40743

Out of these 4 cards which one should I go for?

[keen nacelle]

are you making a whole new build or just new gpu?

[frank fox]

new build

the evga one I found

is not on sale

[keen nacelle]

whats the budget for the whole build?

[frank fox]

RIP

same as before

[keen nacelle]

i dont remember what that is

oh wait

[frank fox]

uh 3060 ti ultimate

[keen nacelle]

i remember now

then the gigabyte one imo

or msi gaming

[frank fox]

gaming better than ventus?

[keen nacelle]

much bette

[frank fox]

I mean if evga drops those cards maybe

but prob not

at least crypto prices are hitting record lows again

Thanks as always

just trying to build a first pc I planned for long

and want to make something that will last me at least 3~5 years

[livid idol]

Too bad that's balanced out by LHR being basically useless now

Demand won't change much from last week

[frank fox]

oh well

such is life I guess

Nvidia: gpu for gamers

Also Nvidia:

[livid idol]

Everyone knew it was only a matter of time before LHR got cracked. Calling it impossible to crack only became a challenge.

[frank fox]

i mean p much

so how are rx6600s

[keen nacelle]

330 normally

[frank fox]

if its good enough I might get it instead of rtx

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wdvdnQ/xfx-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-speedster-swft-210-video-card-rx-66xl8lfdq

[livid idol]

They're fine, a little below the 3060

[frank fox]

so between 3050 and 3060?

[keen nacelle]

essentially

[frank fox]

not too terrible then

[keen nacelle]

6600 is like 8% worse than 3060, 6600xt about 5% better or smthn like that

[frank fox]

eh

userbench mark says its better than 3060 but worse than 3060 ti?

[keen nacelle]

ubm is awful

[livid idol]

!ubm

[dreamy dragon]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[frank fox]

I see

so which sites are btter?

for reference

[livid idol]

Passmark tends to have more reliable results

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/

[frank fox]

thanks

Well I think for games I play 6600 should suffice

[livid idol]

It's a decent 1080p card, and good for games like Fortnite and cs:go

[frank fox]

and I can find 6600 xt for 300~400

I use a laptop with 1650 and doing "fine"

[cerulean rover]

Try directly from AMD

[livid idol]

Yeah, AMD restock is Thursday mornings right?

[keen nacelle]

thursdays and tuesdays now

[frank fox]

https://www.amd.com/en/direct-buy/us

I dont see the 6600 on their site

[keen nacelle]

oh wait

idt theres a reference 6600/xt

[frank fox]

https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Speedster-SWFT210-Graphics-RX-66XT8DFDQ/dp/B09B17SQBS/ref=sr_1_2?crid=QARKBMSLJ2VJ&keywords=6600xt&qid=1652307907&sprefix=6600xt%2Caps%2C119&sr=8-2

xt for 400

or 6600 for 330

[livid idol]

Your choice ultimately

[frank fox]

I see

but performance wise is it worth the jump to xt?

[livid idol]

Personally yes, but I play a lot of high GPU demand titles

[frank fox]

I play games like Monster Hunter, league, lostark and ffxiv

and I dont turn on highest setting

[livid idol]

Monster hunter might be hard depending on which one but the others are fine

[frank fox]

will I be able to play with XT then?

[dreamy dragon]

Avionix#4365 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone pond]

do arguments stating that amd drivers are bad still hold up to this generation of radeon cards?

[little sleet]

not so much bad but just meh

depending on the card

[lone pond]

depends on the cards?

[livid idol]

AMD drivers have gotten a lot better than they used to be for sure

[lone pond]

bc one of my mates was mad at me for buying an RX 6900XT

and said that I could've done better by buying a 3070Ti

[livid idol]

Ok well that's false

6900XT matches the 3090

[little sleet]

perf wise the 6900xt is better a bit

[lone pond]

Yeah

[livid idol]

At 1080p yeah, ties at 1440p, slightly loses at 4k

[lone pond]

the 6950XT is basically just an overclocked version of the 6900

right?

[livid idol]

No

[lone pond]

oh

whats the difference between the two architectures

[livid idol]

It is binned higher and clocked higher but they used different memory with higher bandwidth

[lone pond]

ohhhh

[livid idol]

Overall it's about 10% better depending on what you're playing, for 10% more money

[lone pond]

fair enough

[livid idol]

(at msrp)

[lone pond]

mmm

well I bought my 6900XT for 900USD

[livid idol]

Below msrp then, good deal

[lone pond]

yep yep

and australia also has a premium on cards for some reason

[livid idol]

Less supply

[lone pond]

sounds about right haha

wait so

if he claims that amd drivers are bad

[livid idol]

You can almost call the GPU shortage over in the US, but the rest of the world is still catching up

[lone pond]

what sort of features would he be talking about?

and on a more broad level

[livid idol]

I know overclocking is a bit of a pain on AMD, but as far as drivers that's about the only shortfall.

[lone pond]

how do the two drivers compare

[livid idol]

AMD also doesn't support DLSS, they have FSR and RSR though.
Raytracing is better on nvidia, but most games don't use it properly yet.
The nvidia nvenc encoder is good for streamers.

[lone pond]

ahhhh

whats RSR exactly?

[livid idol]

The stability and overheating issues from when the 5700XT launched are long in the past

Radeon Super Resolution, it's like a driver level DLSS that upscales anything

[lone pond]

ohhh

yeah i heard something about amd being able to use that software for older cards

[livid idol]

It's slightly lower quality but supports everything, and even works on 10 series nvidia and newer

[lone pond]

it was from jz two cents

yeahhh

that one

[livid idol]

Their goal eventually is to support RX 500 and nvidia 900 series cards

[lone pond]

do you have some handy links with a more detailed explanation of what we're talking about?

[lone pond]

fair enough hAha

[livid idol]

GN does a pretty good explanation https://youtu.be/AgFGI8JFo8g

[lone pond]

aye

ill be bacx

gotta go back to work now

feel free to dm me stuff that has useful information related to what we're talking about

i needa educate myself more on this topic lok

[livid idol]

Ok

[lone pond]

ahhh so fsr/rsr is used to boost your fps by dropping your native resolution and letting your gpu up sample the image quality rite?

[livid idol]

Essentially yes

FSR is better because it uses AI and native 4k images to do the upscaling like DLSS, but RSR isn't too far behind

[lone pond]

wdym by native 4k images?

are they images from the game or irl samples?

[livid idol]

They're pre-rendered images of scenes in game that the AI uses to sample and scale with

[lone pond]

ohhhh

yeah that makes sense

[livid idol]

So it takes that 4k image, downscales it to 1080p in the game, and then upscales to 1440p on the gpu (one example)

[lone pond]

Yeah

[livid idol]

The result would be not quite but nearly native 1440p image quality

[lone pond]

fair enough

[livid idol]

But you'd also get between 30-50% more fps

[lone pond]

so its essentially creating the gpu'a idea of what 1440p looks like

[livid idol]

Compared to native

[lone pond]

making it more efficient

right?

[livid idol]

Kinda yeah

[lone pond]

mmm

so what exactly makes dlss and fsr faster at rendering a 1440p image compared to native?

or in other words how super sampling more efficient than rendering a native image?

[livid idol]

It's technically not any faster, in fact there's slightly more latency in rendering, but the increase in fps more than makes up for that

[lone pond]

ahhhh

[livid idol]

It's also a lot easier to work with a 1440p render than a 4k native render

[lone pond]

oh so does rendering actually happen before you see the frame

[livid idol]

Yes

By a few milliseconds at least, if not more depending on monitor

[lone pond]

ahhhh

that explains the 1ms latency on monitor boxes

[livid idol]

That 1ms is under very special circumstances and you'll rarely see it in the real world

Independent testing is best for monitor latency

[lone pond]

oh i see i see

[lone pond]

ok so

does dlss improve your fps by rendering more frames at a lower resolution but stacks some of those frames on top of each other to produce a high quality image?

[livid idol]

No, it's able to get more fps because it's rendering in a lower resolution and the upscaled images are already processed

[lone pond]

as in

is the upscaling process stacking images on top of each other?

[livid idol]

Nvidia has a supercomputer that preprocesses the images

[lone pond]

ohhhh

I thought it was there to train the new ai or smth

[magic wing]

so what ur saying is i should rename my computer to super, so ill get dlss and more fps?

HMMMMMM

||/s||

[stark barn]

How you do that?

[keen nacelle]

do / spoiler without the space

[lone pond]

Ok so DLSS when implemented into a game by the devs will feed the NGX supercomputer with native 4k images from the game so that NGX can teach the DLSS AI how to reconstruct the 4k images using lower resolution renders and motion vectors.

[livid idol]

Yes

[lone pond]

Alright

Im surprised I finally understood it

[livid idol]

It's a pretty complex thing

[lone pond]

Hahahaha definitely

I think it was the fact that DLSS has to be manually added by the devs is what made it click in my mind

otherwise i would've thought that the entire process was done internally inside the gpu in real time

[livid idol]

Yep. The same with FSR, but not RSR

RSR is done real time

[lone pond]

Oh

With FSR/RSR compared to DLSS, are there any noticeable differences between using an algorithm and a super computer?

[livid idol]

FSR is very comparable to DLSS and RSR is slightly lower quality but not very noticeable

[lone pond]

fair enough

[young kettle]

Hey everyone, quick question is this the correct channel to ask for help with my RTX 3080?

To summarize it's not sending any video, but when I turn the pc on, the fans spin for a few seconds then stop and I can only get video via the CPU

[livid idol]

Yep right place.
First thing to do is take it out and put it back in, redoing the power connectors too.

[random walrus]

*FSR 2.0 is

which just released pretty recently right?

im excited to see FSR on integrated gpus

[magic wing]

Fsr 1.0 is also the same thing as rsr afaik fsr 2.0 is different

[random walrus]

2.0 is temporal based like DLSS

[lone pond]

just released yesterday

[magic wing]

amd best

[mental swallow]

found a rx590 xfx in the trash

[magic wing]

ok

[livid idol]

Probably broken if it's in the trash. Maybe fixable

https://youtu.be/7ouQzRKuVns

[vital oriole]

not bad

10-20% gain

better than nothing

[livid idol]

Yep. And nothing is exactly what DLSS gives you on anything except 20 and 30 series.

[vocal current]

Would it really be worth it to go from a 5700xt to a 6750XT or should I hold out longer and save for a 6800/xt

I mostly game at 1440p or 1080p RSR to 1440p

[livid idol]

Depending on what you play it could be anywhere from 15-50% better performance

[heady turtle]

Personally if you can hold off, I'd wait for next gen since it's so close

[vocal current]

True

[livid idol]

But will it be available?

[vocal current]

That's my worry

[mental garnet]

Gtx 1080 vs GTX 1660 ventus

[keen nacelle]

1080

by far

but it also matters what price?

and what country?

[mental garnet]

Kk, my dad has a 1660 he was wondering if my 1080 is better.

[mental garnet]

Us

[keen nacelle]

ah

thought you were buying one or the other

[mental garnet]

Naw

[wicked hound]

To give perspective, 1660 non super is directly inbetween a 1060 6GB and 1070.

[balmy needle]

I got a 3070 ti from gigabyte so that's nice

[cosmic bluff]

At what price?

[balmy needle]

900$ off of amazon

[keen nacelle]

thats terrible

[balmy needle]

Ik

But it was the best deal I could find

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wNpzK8/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-8-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-n307tgaming-oc-8gd

no it wasnt

[balmy needle]

I saw a 3060ti for 700$

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R4jBD3/asus-geforce-rtx-3070-lhr-8-gb-tuf-gaming-oc-v2-video-card-tuf-rtx3070-o8g-v2-gaming

even off amazon too :p

i would cancel that order asap

[balmy needle]

Well I alr got it

[keen nacelle]

id return it then

thats 3080 price

[balmy needle]

I have Amazon prime so ye

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zsmmP6/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-lhr-10-gb-ftw3-ultra-gaming-lhr-video-card-10g-p5-3897-kl

[balmy needle]

Anyways it was a placeholder gpu for now

I was gonna return it when my 3090 ti comes in

[vital oriole]

that's

i have no words to describe it lmao

[balmy needle]

No I had the 3070 to on hand because my other gpu died

So it's a placeholder for the new one

[devout cedar]

What's the best upgrade from a 2060?

Should I go straight to 3090

[livid idol]

What power supply do you have?

And processor?

[devout cedar]

I have a 650w gold plus and a 5 3600

[molten knoll]

If you’re not planning to play 4k I don’t see a point of getting a 3090

[livid idol]

Which power supply exactly because gold tells us nothing

There's gold rated units that literally explode when you stress them

[devout cedar]

EVGA 220-G5-0650-X1 Super Nova 650 G5, 80 Plus Gold 650W, Fully Modular, ECO Mode with Fdb Fan, 10 Year Warranty, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WDLTKNM/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_9ZA2NE6ANFKGHQE5VN6C?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[livid idol]

Ok so B tier, not too bad. You should be able to upgrade to a 3070 or 3070 ti without changing that out.

[devout cedar]

Bet

The market is too good not to buy

[livid idol]

Yeah 3070s especially are getting much better in price

Watch the #tech-deals channel, they've been getting posted a lot recently

And EVGA B-stock restocks pretty often, those are usually just cosmetic defect units

[devout cedar]

I'm just gonna finance on amazon

769 for a 3070 ti

[livid idol]

Ok but this 3070 is $580 and in stock right now https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3751-KL&associatecode=0EHX18A618562YL

[devout cedar]

Nahhh

Gotta get that credit score up

[livid idol]

Suit yourself, go for it then. That's still a decent enough price for a 70 ti.

[heady turtle]

If you want Amazon, the asus 3070 KO is 630 atm

[livid idol]

There's not much difference between the 70 and ti also, maybe 5%

[heady turtle]

5% is a bit generous imo

Nothing you can't make up for with a quick +100 core + 800 mem OC anyway

That's basically garunteed on a 3070

[livid idol]

Yeah, that's 5% in specific games that like memory

[heady turtle]

Spelling guarantee is hard

[livid idol]

Indubitably

[heady turtle]

[ember iris]

I randomly crash at random times and it happens quite often and idk why and it shows these lines either in green pink/red or grey

[heady turtle]

Try DDU

[ember iris]

what is ddu

[vital oriole]

display driver uninstaller

[ember iris]

yeah I actually did get a different version of AMD adrenaline @vital oriole

I think it may have fixed it

we'd never know until it happens again

[hasty sphinx]

Can anyone help me understand what is going on? This is with my PC idle with no games and only the desktop visible with no windows open.

normally at idle my gpu is at 300mhz and my mem is at 600-800mhz

[vital oriole]

you don't have to worry about it if gpu isn't loaded up

it's simply something waking the gpu up

nothing malicious

[hasty sphinx]

ok, it's just odd that I've had it for a month now and the only time it did it was when I had 2 monitors plugged in. when I took the second monitor away it stopped doing it

so now I'm wondering what is cauysing it to do it now

I just like to know what's going on with muh stuff 😛

[vital oriole]

oh it's the second display

[hasty sphinx]

no

there is no second display hooked to my gpu now

[vital oriole]

hm, ok

still normal behavior tbh

[hasty sphinx]

hm. ok. just doesn't seem normal to me I guess because in the month I've had it idle is wayyy lower and haven't seen it do this except 1 other time

actually, now that I think about it.. I literally just did a windows update so I wonder?

even while playing ff14 the mem clock isn't maxed out 100% of the time.

[vital oriole]

that has to do with power profile of the gpu

like performance preference setting i think, i use nvidia

if i set it to like have consistent performance, it adjusts vram clock accordingly to the load

[heady turtle]

There's a guide and explanation in the link in the pins

[ember iris]

I manually may have done it accidentally

but I'll review it in case

thanks :)

I wiped old drivers and downloaded a different version

well not old, just different version

for AMD

I have a legacy card so it's probably because of that being in conflict with newer software

[hybrid maple]

anyone know how much I could get for an nvidia geforce gtx 108 ti

[sage hemlock]

yo i have a question, I was looking at GPUs to buy and I found that I would need something like a 3060 or a 3060 ti for the performance that i wanted, and they both seem to be around the same price with the 3060 ti being 10 bucks cheaper, but which one is better?
3060 ti:https://stockx.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-graphics-card-900-1g142-2520-000
3060: https://stockx.com/nvidia-msi-geforce-rtx-3060-ventus-3x-12g-oc-graphics-card

[keen nacelle]

3060 ti is far better

[heady turtle]

Like 320 maybe

[hybrid maple]

cool

[heady turtle]

You can buy cards retail now, and 3060 ti is far better like bacca said

[hybrid maple]

https://store.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/store/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-us&category=DESKTOP,GPU&gpu=RTX 3060 Ti

[green harness]

EVGA has a pre-order for a 60 Ti, I feel like it may be one of the best 60Ti prices around unless you can get a Founders Edition
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3663-KL

This is the first I have seen a pre-order from them though, I don't know how quickly they expect to fulfill the orders

[hybrid maple]

you can get fe

[green harness]

Someone was saying FEs are getting easier to get, but idk. I know they were unicorns earlier on

[hybrid maple]

nvidia restocked all the 30 series cards

[green harness]

The FE on their website points to Best Buy, and Best Buy is out of stock......

Also, their "restocked and reloaded" thing is marketing. They've been selling cards this whole time

[hybrid maple]

oh it was in stock like last week

[green harness]

The shortage has just been getting much much better

EVGA does have a 3070 in stock rn, but that's a fair bit more than a 3060 or 60Ti

[empty mountain]

how much of a performance difference is between a 3060 and a rx 6600 ?

[sage hemlock]

where tho

the nvidia website takes you to bestbuy

and thats out of stock

[heady turtle]

You in America?

[sage hemlock]

yes

[green harness]

This one is in stock: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-gv-n306teagle-oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932455R?Item=N82E16814932455R&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-932-455R-_-05142022

Looks like open box though

[heady turtle]

There's this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jZFbt6/evga-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-lhr-8-gb-xc-gaming-video-card-08g-p5-3663-kl

But you can get a 3070 for 40$ more which is worth it
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09CC36XXC/

But if you don't care about ray tracing 6700xt is between 3060 ti and 3070 for cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HWbTwP/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-eagle-video-card-gv-r67xteagle-12gd

[sage hemlock]

would that be better than the founders edition?

[heady turtle]

If you could find a 3060 ti founders from best buy... No but considering that's pretty rare yes

[sage hemlock]

https://stockx.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-graphics-card-900-1g142-2520-000

[heady turtle]

That's way more money lol?

[sage hemlock]

539

[heady turtle]

Only reason founders editon is good is if you get them for Msrp

[heady turtle]

That's highest bid, no-one is selling that low

[sage hemlock]

but the evga one is 589?

[sage hemlock]

the buy now is 539

[heady turtle]

The cheapest one in stock on stockx is 650

Not for me that's odd

Anyway up to you, I'd recommend the 6700xt for 500, cheaper, from a proper retailer, new and about 5% better

[sage hemlock]

kk

[sage hemlock]

is this a good 3070: https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3070-08g-p5-3767-kl/p/N82E16814487544?Item=N82E16814487544&Description=3070&cm_re=3070-_-14-487-544-_-Product

[green harness]

You won't necessarily get the warranty if you buy secondhand

iirc the Nvidia warranty is not transferrable

[green harness]

Yeah

You can also buy that direct from EVGA if you prefer, that's the one I linked earlier

[sage hemlock]

how would that compare to something like thishttps://www.centralcomputer.com/asus-ko-rtx3070-o8g-v2-gaming-ko-geforce-rtx-3070v2-oc-edition-graphics-card-8gb-gddr6-with-lhr-2x-hdmi-2-1-3x-displayport-1-4a.html

[heady turtle]

Pretty bad for the price

[sage hemlock]

how about the other one i linked

i thinks its the one you showed on amazon earlier

[heady turtle]

Yeah but why not get it on Amazon?

[sage hemlock]

in store

near me

also how about this one: https://www.centralcomputer.com/asus-ko-rtx3060ti-o8g-v2-gaming-geforce-rtx-3060ti-v2-oc-graphics-card-8gb-gddr6-with-lhr-2x-hdmi-2-1-3x-displayport-1-4a.html

[heady turtle]

Good price ye

[green harness]

Are there readily available ones for less? I haven't been following the market as closely

[green harness]

Yeah good card, good price imo (for the market)

[heady turtle]

Asus ko has been in dtock for while at 630$, if you look in #tech-deals that 3070 for 580 ok evga was in stock for like 16 hours or so

[green harness]

Ah, the EVGA 3070 XC3? Yeah with lower tier models in stock at times now they're definitely changing the market

[heady turtle]

Yup xc3 and ko are perfectly adequate for a 3070 tho

[green harness]

Yeah for sure

They're perfectly adequate in general imo