graphics-cards

[hoary sun]

I got aorus 2tb for 170$ from newegg few weeks ago

[heady turtle]

That was a steal then

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6GK2FT/adata-xpg-gammix-s50-lite-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-agammixs50l-2t-c

[hoary sun]

yeah there was 50$ coupon over 220$ lol

[hoary sun]

i just realized its wrong chat lol

[hoary sun]

[wanton edge]

still nothing only the date changed

LMAO

[keen nacelle]

What was the first gpu to utilize gddr6?

[fading glacier]

1660 if my memory servs me well

[livid idol]

Consumer GPU or in general?

[ivory herald]

eh, a ton of people missed out because the website was dog water and kept saying "could not process at this time, try again later", etc , etc. Soon as the deal was posted on reddit Samsung.com was getting swarmed.

[keen nacelle]

Consumer

I know 1650 is the lowest end gpu that uses it, atleast I believe so

[livid idol]

20 series came out before that

[keen nacelle]

So it was 20 series, Google was right

[livid idol]

So 2070 - 2080 ti were first

[keen nacelle]

Sick thanks

[livid idol]

Yeah the 16 series was their response to AMD getting a little too close in performance for comfort, so they needed a buffer

[keen nacelle]

Mm

I always thought of 16 series as a bridge from 10 series for efficiency

[fading glacier]

1650 was gddr5, the 60 was gddr6

but yeah, the 20 series was the first one to use gddr6, forgot about the 70 and 80 😮

[keen nacelle]

There's a 1650 g6

[shut obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747689215583715370/961408288241623040/GAMING.mov

no embed rip

[livid idol]

.mov doesn't embed in Discord

[normal hawk]

Oh the Titan RTX released after the 2080 and 2070. Weird.

As did the Quadro RTX 4000 🤔 that's even weirder

[ivory herald]

🍎

[lone pond]

ddr5 😭

[heady turtle]

Gddr5 but yes why lol

[lone pond]

oh oops meant to reply to earlier conversation

[keen nacelle]

There is still multiple models that use g6

It's about 10% better than the g5 version

[lone pond]

yes

[vital oriole]

not multiple

just refreshed ones

[lone pond]

i wish i had g6 at least 😭

oh refresh

i think i bought my pc in 2020

[vital oriole]

ye

laptops first got it in form of "1650ti"

then 1650 desktop, also laptop variant got g6 too

[heady turtle]

Prebuilt with dummy outdated specs moment

[lone pond]

Yes

Sobs

[split cradle]

Ive been reading.

Id assume it be a stupid idea unless your card has dual bios no?

Flashing an AIB bios onto another AIB

[heady turtle]

no I've done it a few times... granted i had dual bios but didnt need it... but as long as the port layout is the same (or you dont mind loosing a few ports) and the amount of power connecters ( 6 and 8 pin ones) are the same there is not much reason not assuming the other ones give you more power headroom for a better OC

you can always flash back to your original bios anyway

[split cradle]

But wouldnt you need dual bios?

I was reading about flashing my msi gaming x trio 3070

And if it bricks, you have no hope?

Unless you buy a ch341?

[split cradle]

Basically, aren’t you taking a gamble?

[heady turtle]

Nope just means you have a failsafe

[heady turtle]

Technically yes but unless your pc just turns off/power goes you're fine

[split cradle]

So if I flash say a suprim bios

and it fails

I can just grab a ch341

I dont even need dual bios correct?

[heady turtle]

Yeah

[split cradle]

Is soldering more vram even viable?

If you have a hot air station+ the samsung chips?.

[heady turtle]

Nooooooooooo

[split cradle]

I was reading an interesting article about soldering more vram onto 3000 series. I know im not gonna do it myself, but how feasible is that?

Yes, your taking a risk with the multilayer pcb no?

and then if you knock off a cap, or resistor?

[heady turtle]

Not at all lol

Someone tried it before but they had to use stupid slow vram

Only thing you could technically do is maybe say get a donor 3060 and use it's 2gb modules and replace the 1gb modules

[split cradle]

Ah.

Because didn’t they add 2x chips to a 3070

Because the straps could support it

[heady turtle]

all modules are 1gb except on 3060 and 3090 ti.... possibly 3050 havent checked but i dont think so

[split cradle]

Ah.

[split cradle]

Quick question, have you ever soldered mice?

I finished soldering new Kalih switches to my mouse. I noticed that however, 1 soldering iron was not enough

[heady turtle]

nope only thing ive soldered is components to a non printed circuit board - cant think of the name for the type of exact board

[split cradle]

The soldering iron was clean, and at max

[rugged thunder]

Anyone have good recommendations for smaller cards?

[cosmic bluff]

So you have a lower profile bracket?

[rugged thunder]

I mean like

For more compact cases

Not necessarily low power cards

[cosmic bluff]

No I mean there is a low profile bracket for the pcie it came with my 3090

[rugged thunder]

Oh?

Like

You take off the part with the hdmi ports?

Or am I just confusing it

[heady turtle]

you might be able to just ditch the bracket all together granted a bit more dust might get in that way

[rugged thunder]

Dunno how to remove it

Gotta look it up

[cosmic bluff]

There should be small screws along the back of it but I do suggest a gpu sag bracket

Or you could just (this will void warranty and be 200% harder to resell) but you could just snip the metal tabs off as well

[rugged thunder]

I dunno if I'm THAT dedicated to the card

Would probably be better to find a smaller card at that point

[cosmic bluff]

What card is it?

[rugged thunder]

A 6600

From

Speedstr?

[cosmic bluff]

How much did you pay

[rugged thunder]

Speedster

[cosmic bluff]

Xfx speedster 6600

[rugged thunder]

$373

No $374

It's Amazon so I can return it

[cosmic bluff]

Swift 210

Is that the exact model?

[rugged thunder]

Yea

[cosmic bluff]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-6600-mech-2x-8g/p/N82E16814137690

Check this model

[rugged thunder]

They're both near the same size it seems

Newegg just says length tho

[cosmic bluff]

I'd Google it but I'm at work

[rugged thunder]

The one you sent is much smaller Width wise

Trying to find out what they mean by width

[rustic pulsar]

If it’s a gpu it’s this

For the first one it’s probably the thickness

[cosmic bluff]

Length is correct but the dimensions for the W&H are switched on the mech 2X

[rugged thunder]

I assumed

[cosmic bluff]

The card is 4.9inches wide and the thickness is 1.8inches

[rugged thunder]

So they're nearly the same size

Wonder if the 20 series is smaller

Well

A 20 series thats better then my current card

[hard wren]

It would be pretty crazy if it was 4.9 inches thick lol

thats a few slots

[cosmic bluff]

Thicc boi

[livid idol]

Even the 3.5+ slot 3090 ti is less than 3 inches thick

[rugged thunder]

Lol

[ember eagle]

I mean tbf who really needs extra pcie slots pfffft

[rugged thunder]

Pfff

[native bane]

Do y’all know how I can change my key binds with the adapter ?

[cosmic bluff]

We need more context

What adapter and what device for what purpose

[native bane]

The c91 max Kay board and mouse adapter

And I’m having trouble changing my keybind a

I recently seen they switch the manual and I’m lost

[livid idol]

That sounds more like a #peripherals-and-displays question, keyboards aren't my thing

[cosmic bluff]

Trying to do a xim for console basically

[native bane]

Appreciate it

[rugged thunder]

Much smaller

Still a 6600 tho

Its either

New gpu

Or

Try and get a new case

And move EVERYTHING over

What should I do

[cosmic bluff]

What case do you have currently

[rugged thunder]

This Lian Li 170m

Too small for the gpu

[cosmic bluff]

Hmm how much you willing to spend on a case?

[rugged thunder]

Dunno

Just need a larger one

But can't be too large

Needs to fit here

[cosmic bluff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3RJmP6/phanteks-eclipse-p400a-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec400atg_bk

[rugged thunder]

Is NZXT much good?

[cosmic bluff]

NO

[rugged thunder]

Aight

[cosmic bluff]

Only good as an oven

[rugged thunder]

Corsair CASES okay?

[cosmic bluff]

Some yes

[rugged thunder]

Found an ugly rgb one but can just turn them off

[cosmic bluff]

But model over brand

[rugged thunder]

No rgb

[cosmic bluff]

4000D airflow cheaper than that

[rugged thunder]

These are just local

Hence why I'm askin

I can go in person and look at the size

[split cradle]

Facts

[rugged thunder]

Is the corsair a bad option tho

For the best buy one

[livid idol]

See for yourself https://youtu.be/QUP-mG76mOs

[rugged thunder]

I'll keep the gpu for a week

No rush to return it

[ember eagle]

Honestly it’s not bad if you wanna go w/o the front plate lol or diy, I liked the 3 rgb fans and the rgb hub in the case for cable managing

[vital oriole]

just get 4000d airflow

also i don't think rgb is ugly irl

[ember eagle]

I meant to say argb lowkey some people had some dope light settings that really make the build pop I don’t like unicorn vomit either lol

[vital oriole]

argb could just be adjusted to one color pft

but yeah, unicorn puke is just

ugly

[livid idol]

Gotta love those rgb fans that spew rainbows and have no rgb control

[vital oriole]

ye

[clever pagoda]

I see they got the 3080 12gb for about 1k would it be worth the upgrade from my 3070ti?

I'd be selling the 3070 ti

[green harness]

Whether or not it's worth the upgrade really depends on if you want/need the increased performance, how much you can get for the 70Ti, and how much you care about spending more

[lone pond]

what GPU for R5 5500X?

just give me a few options

[keen nacelle]

that cpu doesnt exist

i also wouldnt recommend buying it

[lone pond]

5600x my bad

[keen nacelle]

oh

alr

literally any 30/6000 series gpu

preferably above 3060 and 6600xt

[lone pond]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/876296396330926090/946331347495026698/877645182714146867.gif

[keen nacelle]

5600x is fine

i thought you meant 5500

[lone pond]

3060 or 6600xt then?

[keen nacelle]

anything above them imo

[lone pond]

yeah alright thanks

[keen nacelle]

so 3060 ti and above or 6700xt and above

just depends how much you want to spend and if the gpu gods favor you

ig also depends what you do

and if you have the psu already and what wattage it is if you already have it

[lone pond]

well 3rd world country so it's probs more than enough using 3060

[keen nacelle]

im going to start this over

oh alr

[lone pond]

planning on a new build, instead of upgrading my rig, cause this is already pretty old

[keen nacelle]

what parts do you have, what country, and how much do you want to spend

[lone pond]

basically more or less this

[keen nacelle]

you need an ssd in there, i wouldnt buy that ram or psu

what country do you live in

ill see what i can find

[lone pond]

I have 2 SSD's

[lone pond]

Philippines

[keen nacelle]

ah

akr

alr*

[lone pond]

yeah sadge

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/876296396330926090/946331347495026698/877645182714146867.gif

[keen nacelle]

jsyk

theres a philipines pcpartpicker

[lone pond]

oh, didn't know that lol

neat

[keen nacelle]

there are no psus i normally look for that are decently priced

@heady turtle ?

also @lone pond did you alreayd buy the 5600x?

12400 is slightly cheaper than the 5600 and slightly better

oh wait but mobo cost

one sec

[lone pond]

nope I just got a sudden urge to list parts that I want to get in the next 5 years or so

[keen nacelle]

from the parts i can actually find, these seem the be decent https://ph.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zcjntn

mobo cost hurts me though

nearly as much as the cpu

[lone pond]

real

no need for more drives, i got m.2 and sata 1.5tb total

[keen nacelle]

oh thought you wanted an hdd

alr

[lone pond]

pretty cool how I can actually buy these now that's awesome

just need a good gpu now

[keen nacelle]

anything 20 series, 30 series, 6000 series, 5700xt, 1080/1080 ti works

[lone pond]

I'll try to look something 2nd hand, gpu prices are still extremely inflated here

[keen nacelle]

yeah

[lone pond]

anyway thanks a ton for the help

[heady turtle]

Yeah i don't think it's any good unfortunately

What hath i been pingeded for anyway

[keen nacelle]

do you think you could find a good psu that isnt ridiculously priced for the philipines?

650-750w probably

[heady turtle]

Idk the shops over there... Shoppee i think is one

Lazada?

But they would have to probably look around there themselves those are a pain in the ass to use

[hasty monolith]

I have amd card in my pc replacing with a gtx card. Do i need to amd uninstall drivers and then install card and install said drivers 4 card?

[heady turtle]

Yes... You'll want to do a DDU uninstall, there's a guide in the pins

[tall lichen]

Stupid question, is it worth it to get a rtx 3050 for $300

[desert aspen]

usd?

[desert aspen]

depends on currency

[tall lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/yessir-yes-sir-byron-coney-gif-24329728

[desert aspen]

yeah maybe not

[tall lichen]

Mm

[bleak garnet]

A 2060 already performs better than a 3050 and they're also easy to get at around 300 or less

So 3050 for 300 isn't totally worth the price

[heady turtle]

2060 is a bit better yeah wouldn't really say they're easy to find for 300 tho especially new

[keen nacelle]

Theyre very similar in perf

[bleak garnet]

yeah new ones aren't that common any more but I see a bunch of used 2060s sold at around 300 on ebay right now

[bleak garnet]

2060 is about 20 percent faster than 3050, so they're not that similar

[keen nacelle]

3050 is a 1070 with dlss and rtx

[heady turtle]

It's more like 10-15% but yeah used is always gonna be a better deal unless you're in a shortage which we're not really in anymore

[bleak garnet]

yeah the shortages in the US are basically over

In my area I see people right now selling a 2080 for 400 and 2070 for 375

[heady turtle]

That's nice

[bleak garnet]

The scalpers are going to be crying pretty soon. The micro center in Cambridge is already full of cards lol

Imagine being one of those people that still have like a hoard of 100 cards and the shortage just ends... They'll be losing so much money but that's what they get

[heady turtle]

The cards I've been in stock at micro center is usually because they're trash priced

[bleak garnet]

like what

At the micro center near me, the prices are okay. A 3060 for429.99, 3080 12gb for 1k

[heady turtle]

Ahh seems they've improve their prices by a large margin in the last 3-4 weeks

They had like 750-800$ 3060 tis iirc

[bleak garnet]

that's pretty overpriced for a 3060 ti

[heady turtle]

Yeah

[bleak garnet]

The micro center in Cambridge also has a bunch of open box cards for less. Even several 3090 Ti's for around 1.9k

[heady turtle]

Yeah that's pretty normal price tho

[bleak garnet]

yes but still a good deal better than before

Their 3060 Ti's are about 500 something

Believe it or not someone a few days ago gave me his 3060 Ti for 380. People are now willing to let go their cards for less than MSRP

[heady turtle]

Yeah pretty much only in the us tho

[bleak garnet]

cause in most other places /areas in the world, the shortage is still going on

In Europe it's really hard to get those cards

Taiwan never really had a shortage, even last year the PC stores in Taipei Taiwan were full of cards

[heady turtle]

It's hust hard to get at a good price in eu but ye

[ivory herald]

Lol don't care, serves them right.
We'll be happy when 70/70ti often under $650 & 3080 often under $800.

[ember eagle]

Yeah lmao I just picked up a bstock 3070ti for 600 lol

[rustic pulsar]

on that note how is bstock? is it essentially new

[livid idol]

Basically new, sometimes it's got cosmetic damage or is a remanufactured unit

Shorter warranty in a lot of cases

[heady turtle]

Yeah 1yr warranty instead of normal 3/4 years

[ember eagle]

Idk man had like 3x 3070tis em and 2 3080s for 750. my wallet has never felt so empty tho 😭

[normal hawk]

3050 will also all have better temps and lower power consumption. even the single fan 3050's are fine temp wise.

While there are several 2060 models like Ventus 2x and Phoenix Fan that are really bad

[royal kernel]

yall im broke so im telling you about it now... the rtx 3050 is 299 and in stock on evga's website

[normal hawk]

Check used in your area for a 1660 Super, 1070 ti(I think) or 2060 . If you can't find any cheaper then the 3050 is an okay price imo.

oh, also Radeon 6600 are getting close to 350$ so look at those too and see if you can save up a bit more for that.

[heady turtle]

Not even close to, less than 350 now

[normal hawk]

inb4 I buy it for 3050 sli....jk

[heady turtle]

Now that was a good price for a 3050

[normal hawk]

I got one for 250$ in February, finally built the PC last weekend. Now I dunno where Imma put the PC 😂

maybe I'll just keep rebuilding this PC in different cases for the fun of it

[livid idol]

Does your living room TV have a vesa mount? Stick it on that lol

[normal hawk]

I have a PC for my TV already

Maybe I'll try to build a handheld with a 3D printed case. (not with the 3050 of course) Will look into that actually

[livid idol]

The Wii is a good choice for that. You can cut down most of the PCB, do a little soldering, and boom you've got a handheld. It emulates pretty well too. I play PS1 games on it.

[normal hawk]

I've seen those ya. PS2 is another one people do.

I'm thinking of using a laptop motherboard. it'll come with CPU and such

Battery too

[livid idol]

Depending on the laptop you might not even need to do a lot of cutting. That might work.

The issue you're likely to run into is the bios and post though...

[normal hawk]

Shouldn't need to cut the Motherboard.

[livid idol]

Like I said, depends on the model. If it's a smol board already no need.

[normal hawk]

Yeah true

[livid idol]

Fantastically
Except Control likes to crash

Keeps saying out of memory but that's ridiculous lol

Right? It's only using 8gb of vram with RTX and DLSS quality

Tried it without, still crashes. Apparently it's a game issue.

Even tried no DLSS

[normal hawk]

HP Envy is the one motherboard I've seen people use.

Dang it looks like the 4500u is too wide 😭

Maybe I'll just Redo a phones casing instead 😂

probably would need a bit more effort though I think

[hot folio]

Only thing I found that fixes it is choosing the mission manually

@mighty island How good is the EVGA 3080 12Gb cooler compared to other 3080s?

[mighty island]

xc3 or ftw3

ftw3 is good, xc3 is bottom tier

[livid idol]

Interesting. I'll try that tonight. Thanks

[hot folio]

FTW 3 Ultra

Forgot the XC3 existed

[mighty island]

it's good

[hot folio]

And should I go through Precision X1 or Afterburner to OC?

[ivory herald]

I prefer AB, but X1 might have a couple features/settings for evga cards if that matters to ya. idk what they are though.

[hot folio]

Main thing I’m pretty sure is it has temp sensors for more than just the core

As in temp sensors on vram, VRMs, etc

[mighty island]

either one will be fine

[livid idol]

X1 is also the only way to control the RGB on the FE cards

[ivory herald]

Good, rotten gross butt-ness can stay off. 🤣

[heady turtle]

Is that only on 3070 fe and up or something? Because by default there's none on my 3060 ti fe

[livid idol]

The 3070 has the Nvidia logo but not RGB. The 3080 and higher has full RGB and the white only logo.

[heady turtle]

Ahh makes sense

Figured it was 3070 and higher or 3080 and higher

[livid idol]

Side note you can adjust brightness on the logo at least, even if it's not RGB

[heady turtle]

By default there's no white led on anyway

[keen nacelle]

@normal hawk i forget if you awnted a 3050 or not, but if you happen to https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3551-KR&associatecode=DCIZQ79WVS4ODJZ

$250 3050

[normal hawk]

I own one

Since the first shuffle with them. Lol for 250$

[keen nacelle]

Forgot bout that

[normal hawk]

Ye

[jaunty mango]

bruh

im now regretting buying my gpu when i did

i got a GTX 770 founders edition for $200 about 5-6 months ago

now there going for about 75-100$

[pulsar mica]

no regrets!

[jaunty mango]

with the budget i had then i could got like a 1070 now

heck i coulda even got an rtx 2060 for that price

[ivory herald]

Yep, and the value of my gpu is almost 1/2 what I paid last year, but w/e. Just keep going until you really feel like buying a new gpu. Know that already the 3060 ti is $500ish & it is 2080 ti performance. 40 series is a good 8-10 months away, but prices will keep steadily dropping closer to "msrp".

[jaunty mango]

i really am gonna need an upgrade asap

my gpu is unfortunately on its last legs and i just got my hands on an oculus rift cv1 and vr gaming isnt the best on a 770

ive somehow brought this thing back from the dead twice with windows reinstalls and it is starting to show its age

and i dont exactly have a huge budget with at max 300-350$ at my disposal at only specific times of year like my birthday or christmas

so at best im getting a higher end 10 series or low end 20 series

maybe if i get lucky i can snag a 30 series when the 40 series comes out and everyone wants to sell

idk actually

cause just looking at only EVGA on their website it looks like i could easily snag a 2060

what would be the best price to performance in a budget of about $300

[livid idol]

Are they really going to miss the usual holiday release window? The most profitable time of the year?

[jaunty mango]

if anything i bet they'll just do the typical release the high end cards first around holiday time and then drip feed us the rest of the lineup

if they actually miss the holiday release time then idk

thatll be loosing alot of profit

[livid idol]

RX 6600 probably, unless you can find 3060 at msrp. Both would be $330

[jaunty mango]

aight

do the 16xx cards get DLSS?

[livid idol]

No but they can use FSR

[jaunty mango]

isnt that amd?

[livid idol]

Yep

AMD did a power play and demo'd the tech using a gtx 1060

[jaunty mango]

lmao

nice

depending on prices in the window of about early may to june ill either go with the rx6600 or 3060 like you said or if i cant find them with low enough prices try to get a 1660 or 2060

acutally lemme take a quick look at rx5000 prices

[livid idol]

RX 5000 is usually garbage price because miners love it

[jaunty mango]

damn

i see that

[green harness]

I've been hearing September-ish, but we won't know til they announce (or maybe announce an announcement 😆 )

[ivory herald]

Ah probably not, I forget which month we're in sometimes. We know the high end 4080 is probably 1st. Yea if they get anything around black friday or at least by xmas they'll sell a lot for sure.

[small leaf]

Im looking for a graphics card that is good more 3d modeling and rendering for around 200 dollars

[rustic pulsar]

not really possible sorry, best u could do is a 1070 ti on ebay but that okay, it def could do the job, but wont be crazy

[trim lake]

is running my 3060 at 9000 ram mhz bad for the overall longevity of the card?

[livid idol]

It's not really running at 9000MHz, that's more of a "net" value after accounting for QDR memory.
Don't worry about it.

[ivory herald]

Yea it's more about the overall overclock %, but probably not an issue. +500 give or take on the vram is often safe*/ez.

[livid idol]

Yeah that's only +375 over the base spec for the 3060.

[heady turtle]

Yes

[trim lake]

Yeah its my first time overclocking and ive got it set to +1500 after I saw a tutorial and it runs pretty fine

But thank you for the help

[keen nacelle]

thats a very aggressive offset for a 3060

i would run a benchmark to make sure its stable, timespy 3dmark demo is free on steam i would run that

[trim lake]

Yeah Ive ran several

It seemed to work fine

Only crashing when I increased clock above 145

[livid idol]

The thing with 30 series cards, if the memory is unstable you'll just lose performance. It won't outright crash.
There's error correction built into GDDR6

[trim lake]

Ahhh I see thank you ill try running some games and messing with it to see if im losing frames

[livid idol]

Yeah that's the best thing to do, just run a few more tests with different settings until you settle on some that work for you

[heady turtle]

3d mark demo on steam - timespy is a great way to test

[livid idol]

If you run out of free runs of that you can do furmark in 4k so it uses as much memory as it can

[heady turtle]

There's a limit of free runs?

[livid idol]

Yea 5 iirc

[trim lake]

Thank you!

[heady turtle]

Oh lol, well you can download timespy without steam anyway, i believe there's a link in the pins of #overclocking

[livid idol]

It is in the pins, but here's that link https://www.techspot.com/downloads/5775-3dmark.html

I found it very fun to run it on my smart tv. It kept crashing and only got like 3 fps lol

[trim lake]

Smart TV overclock

[livid idol]

It's android tv so maybe I could root it

Well, google tv, the fork of android

Found my pic https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663879080160133121/901622302591037480/20211023_170425.jpg

Exactly 1.1 fps lmao

[rustic pulsar]

def not I have run at least 20 and its fine

[livid idol]

Maybe it's 5 in one day then? Because I ran it on my non-internet connected bench OS and it made me stop

[rustic pulsar]

really, last time i did it is was feb 23 2022 and it more then 10

[livid idol]

Yeah I'll switch to the bench OS and screenshot if you don't believe me

[rustic pulsar]

i gotta see this, maybe its a new thing, im using the free steam version btw

[livid idol]

I have the standalone, because overhead with steam. And Internet requirement.

[rustic pulsar]

then maybe its a standalone thing

[tired pilot]

should i buy the rx 6600 eagle ?

[livid idol]

For what price?

[rustic pulsar]

also for what purpose?

[livid idol]

I did a derpy move. I forgot I activated my 3dmark on my bench OS

I'm sitting here wondering why it's working lol

[tired pilot]

gaming for 1080p

[rustic pulsar]

what games?, and also how much u paying

[heady turtle]

Depends on the price and what cpu and motherboard it will be paired with

[tired pilot]

near 400 dollars i play alot of games not just one type

[rustic pulsar]

honest, if u could find a 6600xt that would be a lot better

its okay for gaming

[tired pilot]

i cant find it for 400

[heady turtle]

400 is too much for a 6600 non xt assuming you're in the US?

[rustic pulsar]

yeah

[livid idol]

You can get a 3060 for $400 that will beat the 6600

[rustic pulsar]

^^^^^^

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KhvdnQ/msi-radeon-rx-6600-xt-8-gb-gaming-x-video-card-rx6600xt-gaming-x-8g

[heady turtle]

@tired pilot If you're in the US
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fQhFf7/powercolor-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-fighter-video-card-axrx-6600-8gbd6-3dh

[tired pilot]

out of stock

[heady turtle]

Actually that ones better

[tired pilot]

no i live in the middle east

[heady turtle]

That makes more sense

What country exactly?

[tired pilot]

kuwait

but i can buy it from new egg or amazon

[heady turtle]

Yeah 400 probably is decent then, see if you can find a 6600xt or 3060 for cheaper though

[mellow kiln]

how much longer until gpu prices calm down? I see a couple 6700xt in my area for $500, thinking about copping one, but I really want a 3060 ti

[vital oriole]

gpu prices are steadily falling

[random walrus]

Hold out for a 3060ti

One of the best cards this generation

[heady turtle]

That's a pretty good price, why would you want a 3060 ti over 6700xt?

[heady turtle]

That's a bold statement considering the 6700xt performs a bit better

[odd siren]

6700XT stonks

[ember eagle]

But RAyTrAciNg!

[rustic pulsar]

tetris RTX

[random walrus]

The perf difference isnt that much in most games, and you get dlss, raytracing, shadowplay, cuda stuff, ect.

The amd cards might edge out in raw performance but I personally think Nvidia features and software more than make up for it

[heady turtle]

Ray tracing is a gimmick for the moment, amd cards have rt just not as good as rtx 3000, fsr 2.0 will compete with dlss, amd have a shadowplay alternative, cuda is only for productivity workstation stuff doesn't relate to gamers

It's about 5% more, halfway to a 3070

[random walrus]

So 5% raw performance vs the Nvidia feature set.

Personal preference between the 2

[heady turtle]

Did you read my first statement lol?

[green harness]

Agreed. I can count the games I have with rtx enabled on one hand and I have an 80Ti. I don't think I'd use it at all for a 3050 or 3060

[random walrus]

I've used rt a decent amount

Even back on my 2060

[keen nacelle]

My 3060 ti drops to 60fps with rtx enabled in cold war lmao

[random walrus]

Again, just preference

[keen nacelle]

I'll take 140fps over that any day

[green harness]

I have it on in Metro Exodus, Cyberpunk, and Doom Eternal iirc

[random walrus]

Yeah in a fast shooter I wouldn't use it, kinda weird to include it even

[green harness]

Also played Quake II through with RTX 😆

[dreamy dragon]

steviejoe66#1028 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[green harness]

In Doom Eternal I got plenty of fps even with rtx on and dlss off

[random walrus]

Metro Exodus Emhanced is *heckin aewsome

[green harness]

The DLSS implementation in that game didn't work at 1440p for me

[heady turtle]

Even then 6700xt has ray tracing similar to 20 serious rt soo

[random walrus]

Yeah I'm on a 3060ti now

Upgraded from the 2060

[normal hawk]

Don't enable RT on cod. its not worth it. The way they do lighting makes it useless

only Control and Minecraft really do it well.

Everything else is very specific iirc and loses too much performance to make it worth it.

And sadly, both Minecraft RTX and Control are more of a showcase than anything.

Like even Forza Horizon 5, you should only turn on RT for a Screenshot. Cause even on a 3080 ti, the frame rate drops down pretty drastically ;-;

[green harness]

tbf the first few games to use a new technology are often basically tech demos

It's not a bad thing or anything

[mellow kiln]

Nvenc and compute, I do process simulations

Also potentially cheaper if prices come back down

[heady turtle]

Okay that's a legitimate reason to go Nvidia

Prices are a gamble rho

[green harness]

B stock prices are nearly the same as buying new rn and EVGA has stock all the time, are they looking for like a pascal era GPU?

B-Stock may not be bad for Pascal, but Turing to Ampere pricing for B-Stock isn't great

[normal hawk]

3060 ti for 429 once

[green harness]

Yes, like $20 difference from buying new for a shorter warranty

EVGA has a lot of new cards in stock now

[mellow kiln]

Yeah, and idk how much longer I wanna wait

Tho I have a 1080, but I want to do 1440p high refresh

[heady turtle]

Evga b stock have been dropping like 3 times a week in NA

[heady turtle]

If you mean 3080 12gbs and 3080 tis sure

[green harness]

Anything 3070 Ti and up has largely had bad pricing, 60 Tis I assume sell out quickly as I haven't seen em in B stock, so yeah any access to them is good as they're not just available like 3050s, 60s, and 70Ti+ cards

[heady turtle]

Well okay but if they want a 3060 ti they're hoping for a 3060 ti maybe a cheap 3070

[mellow kiln]

Someone selling a 1070 for 240 near me, I think things are on track to being normal again

Oh NVM they have 3 of them, mining cards

I got my 1080 for 340 last summer so I'm pretty happy, but flight sim is such a demanding game

[normal hawk]

if they take care of them, mining doesn't really cause them to lose performance. iirc.

if you trust LTT's test they did on it vs the manufacturers who WANT you to buy new cards

[mellow kiln]

Well I don't need a 1070

I saw a 2080 ti for 500 but I wasn't fast enough

[green harness]

I didn't see or maybe forgot that they want a 3060 Ti 👍

Yeah for sure

Any of the readily available or Turing cards on B-Stock are sadly not great value

But if it's the only way to get the card that's a totally different thing

Well I think they're still selling em quickly enough for their liking so they're leaving the prices high

[ivory herald]

3060 ti is often enough under $550 & matches 2080 ti in most stuff. 👍

[keen nacelle]

LMAO

[heady turtle]

Nothing wrong with mining cards, most miners actually take better care of their cards than gamers

[keen nacelle]

Guy has a 1660 and a 27in 1080p60hz monitor on sale on Facebook marketplace

Take a guess at the price

[heady turtle]

700$

[keen nacelle]

750

[heady turtle]

SO CLOSE

[green harness]

FB marketplace and markets like it are waaaaay behind on pricing in my experience

[keen nacelle]

bro my mom might kill me

im in line for a 3080 fe from best buy rn

also 3070 for the memes but id only get either or

[fading glacier]

you should use your own money, that way you will avoid bloodshed

just saying 😛

[keen nacelle]

obviously

shell still be pissed

not bouta spend 500-700$ of my parents money

thatd just be stupid and entitled

[heady turtle]

I believe the term is stealing

[fading glacier]

then i dont get why she will be pissed o.O

[keen nacelle]

fair enough

[heady turtle]

😛

[keen nacelle]

she does not want me to be spending money like that

i recently bought a 6800xt (that i'm selling, because i dont like AMDs ocing)

[heady turtle]

Tis a lot of money

[fading glacier]

indeed, now i get it

[keen nacelle]

doesnt look like the best buy gods like me today anyways

like the 10th time ive got in queue for a 3080 fe within a minute and didnt get one

[heady turtle]

rip

[keen nacelle]

used my luck up on amd

oh pato

hows 5800x3d stock?

[heady turtle]

lol its that 2nd time you entered queue and got in for the lols

[keen nacelle]

yeah lmao

and the third time i got in too

[fading glacier]

last time i checked, all those cpu are on scalper hands

[keen nacelle]

on two accounts

[heady turtle]

ohh i got into amd queue today but it was only 6900xt left i got in at like half past lol

uhhh idk i havent checked

[keen nacelle]

there won't be much of a market for scalping 5800x3d i don't think

not with 12900k and 5950x price

[heady turtle]

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-ryzen-7-5000-series/p/N82E16819113734 stock looks fine

[keen nacelle]

lol, i wonder how many people are going to sell their 5800xs and 5900x to buy one

nice

[fading glacier]

funny i checked 2 hours ago and was out of stock, only on third party sellers

[heady turtle]

also probs in stock on amd.com

[vital oriole]

tbh that price is kinda ouch to me

[fading glacier]

most likely

[vital oriole]

sure it's best gaming chip rn but

[heady turtle]

thats msrp

[keen nacelle]

its not even on pcp

[vital oriole]

rather go 5600

ik it's msrp

[keen nacelle]

yeah it should drop to 400 soon enough imo

[vital oriole]

but 449 is steep imo

[keen nacelle]

5700x prolly 250 soon

[heady turtle]

yeah but its for the same people that would have bought 12900k for a gaming cpu

[keen nacelle]

id go 12700k before 5800x3d as well personally, better mc, cooler, and a bit of an upgrade path

[heady turtle]

ohh bacca btw I accidentally left p95 running for 1hr yesterday.... my vrms maxed at like 92c 💀

[fading glacier]

yeah, i mean just for gaming just stick to a 5600x, at that price you should upgrade to a real workload cpu

[keen nacelle]

holy f*

[heady turtle]

to be fair. while mining too

but still

[heady turtle]

5600 non x*

[fading glacier]

true

[keen nacelle]

i think i can hear your vrms crying all the way in america

hows the warrantee with the 3070 going?

well, rma that is

[heady turtle]

oh did i not tell you? they only offer refund or replace in Ireland throught the store

they dont repair

[keen nacelle]

bruhhh

[heady turtle]

and i was like f it just gimme refund

[keen nacelle]

rip

so thats why you need another gpu?

[heady turtle]

yup

[keen nacelle]

thats stupid asf

i wish import taxes werent so high

[heady turtle]

and i bought mine for 720 but they sell 3070s for like 2x that now on their site because theyre overpriced and i wasnt sure if they would charge extra for it or not i was like i can just grab another FE/ amd drop

[keen nacelle]

yeah hopefully

[heady turtle]

only wanted a 3060 at first but 3070 was just dumb luck i checked their site at the time

i have like 2.5 months till rawr vists eu anyway

[keen nacelle]

yeah

market is getting better especially in america, so i feel like amd will start doing bigger drops elsewhere

[heady turtle]

was going to buy from rommy she was supposed to come to eu in may but now it might be june/july

[keen nacelle]

rip

[heady turtle]

anyway idm waiting and if i can it would be sweet, 3070 fhr ftw3

[hot wave]

do gpus need to be compatible with your mobo or does it not matter

like could I put a 1080ti on a z690

[heady turtle]

yes you can

[hot wave]

wonderful

[heady turtle]

the only issue could be is pcie generation but pcie is backwards compatible

[hot wave]

any suggestions for a mobo compatible with a 12600k at a budget of like 200$ max

cad

[heady turtle]

do you wanna oc?

[hot wave]

i found this on Newegg

[heady turtle]

and do you want bluetooth/wifi?

[heady turtle]

oof no

[hot wave]

oki

[heady turtle]

do you wanna oc and wifi ?

[hot wave]

i think I have a WiFi card alrd

separate

[heady turtle]

cool

[hot wave]

USB tho so maybe not the best idea

[heady turtle]

alright

@hot wave i would go with this

wait wrong link

[hot wave]

np

rgb isn’t mandatory btw

[heady turtle]

do you want to oc? and do you mean 200 cad yeah?

[hot wave]

nah no need for oc

and yes 200cad

[heady turtle]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/yZPQzy/asus-prime-b660m-a-d4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-prime-b660m-a-d4 this would do

although if you can https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/KKbTwP/msi-pro-b660m-a-ddr4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-b660m-a-ddr4

[hot wave]

does micro atx matter or does it work the same

[heady turtle]

doesnt matter

[hot wave]

just smaller no difference

?

[heady turtle]

yep a few less pcie slots but that doesnt matter

[hot wave]

great

ty🙏🙏

[heady turtle]

np

[normal hawk]

I need to get off my butt and sell my 3080

but also I'm not sure if I can get it out of the case

so maybe not

[keen nacelle]

how much did you get it for?

[normal hawk]

It was in a prebuilt. But its not LHR

[keen nacelle]

nice

wil get a good bit for it

ill give you $2

[normal hawk]

Was gonna sell it to try to get a 6900xt,

lmao

I'll sell my 2060 on r/hardwareswap.

its a phoenix fan so I don't expect more than 300$ for it.

Which is why I went with the 3050 instead in my console case. As that card gets really hot and I wouldn't want to limit the airflow at all with a small case.

[keen nacelle]

i mean, if it pays for the 3050 then youre good

[normal hawk]

I might sell it to my coworker, he was looking for a GPU.

actually I have 2 coworkers looking. so I might have them fight over it.

[hot folio]

Fight to the death

[ember eagle]

I’d throw it down for a 2060

[ivory herald]

Winner gets to buy the card🤣

[rustic pulsar]

• but it's bundled with a $300 mobo

[trim lake]

† $59.99 shipping

[hasty sphinx]

+tax

[rustic pulsar]

+ratio

[cosmic narwhal]

Anyone know where I can find a water block for my gpu! Gigabyte rtx 2070 super GV-N207SGAMING OC-8GD

[open mantle]

Should I get a 3060 TI or just a 3060? currently price for the ti is 500+ and the regular is 300 - 340 +

[rustic pulsar]

Ti is a big step up, 500 is an okay price

[open mantle]

do you know if it will drop anymore in price?

[rustic pulsar]

No one knows for sure lol but they will prolly go down. Msrp is 400 iirc

[open mantle]

what is msrp?

[rustic pulsar]

Manufacturer suggested retail price, aka normal price

[open mantle]

thx'

[keen nacelle]

at that price, 3060 ti

$500 or cheaper is a great price for it, and it's arguably (or not so arguably, just kinda is) the best price/perf card in current gen

and it's a good bit ahead of 3060

smthn like 20-25% iirc

[wooden fern]

My brother Just ordered a rx 6600 for 339, thank God prices are close to normal

[open mantle]

got no clue what that means xD

[keen nacelle]

3060 ti is 20-25% better

[open mantle]

okay thx

I think ill wait till tmmr to see how much this 3060 ti drops to

then if its the same ill buy it

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

[rustic pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-weird-clapping-evil-laugh-gif-15543771

[lone pond]

d

i need help

my 6600 is causing issues

it takes ages to load into csg

csgo

[heady turtle]

loading times are your ssd/hard drive not gpu

[livid idol]

There's a small potential that if you had another GPU in there before you might need to DDU sand reinstall drivers. Guide should be in the pins, doesn't hurt to try.

[velvet grail]

What's equal (desktop GPU) for the 3050 mobile?

Any card that performs similar

[heady turtle]

probably like 1660 or 1650 super

[velvet grail]

Perfect

Thank you

[fallen notch]

Passmark for the 3050 mobile

So the 1650 super is about 10% better and the 1660 is about 20%

[ember imp]

Hey y’all, is a 850w Corsair RMx good enough for a 3080ti

Thanks in advance

Ah fr. Sick thanks

[sullen panther]

Can someone help me with rmaing a 3080ti fe? I know someone had to do that months ago and now mine doesn't work right anymore

It does not work with drivers at all.

When I download drivers it just black screen and refuse to work. With another gpu plugged in. It shows the gpu without drivers but once installed it does not show on device manager

Yes

Last time I tried this the dude just left without any warning wasting hours of my time

Alright thank you for your help

I did buy this used from someone locally. However I do have that person's phone number so I can get in contact with him for whatever info I need to rma it

I did this already

Oh no he was trying to trouble shoot it with me but I've already done everything I could've think of so I'm basically like "done that already" for almost every suggestions he says.

Then he just leaves out of nowhere

I'm still very bitter about that.

[heady turtle]

I mean there's a guide in my pins and ppl have lives outside of discord lol

But eh haven't looked at FE rma

Go to the Nvidia website then the support tab?

[sullen panther]

So I just talk to customer support for hours, hope they just don't leave until they they give me a form or something to fill out for rma?

[sullen panther]

I didn't know about the pins, will look into it

[heady turtle]

Huh no go to the support page

And look for return or something

And they shouldn't be hours?

Should be like 20 mins max if you where talking to person

[sullen panther]

I must be blind cause I didn't see that

[heady turtle]

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/chat/chat_launch/

[sullen panther]

That's where I went

And talked to the support person

I'll try again I guess.

Whenever I have time

Lmao

[heady turtle]

oh sorry

[cerulean rover]

how fun

[fading glacier]

but, rma still works even if you bought an used card from a third party person? just wondering

[livid idol]

Depends on the brand

[fading glacier]

pretty sad the 3080ti fe going black with drivers 😦 hope it can be repaired asap

[livid idol]

Official answer

If you bought it "new" you should be good, if it's used you can't transfer warranty

Best to have the original invoice handy from the original owner if possible

[sharp trellis]

Is it not worth 'upgrading' to a 3X Ventus verison of 3060Ti from 2x Venus?

[green harness]

Depends on the cost imo. If it costs nothing, or some nominal amount ($20?), sure.

It's not like an extra fan gets you a better GPU die, more VRAM, etc. I don't even know if the 3x gets you a higher PL

[livid idol]

Ventus 2x is garbage tier and should be avoided. 3x is passable.

[green harness]

Yeah, if you haven't bought the card yet get the 3x or something else.
But if you already have the 2x?

[sharp trellis]

PL?

[green harness]

Power limit

[sharp trellis]

Yeah well I brought 3060ti Prebuilt

[livid idol]

Oof

[sharp trellis]

And I pulled brand on short end of stick.

[green harness]

Is it constantly thermal throttling?

[livid idol]

They probably gave you that one because it's the cheapest one

[sharp trellis]

Everything runs well. Just didn't like seeing my gpu Temps hovering around 70 c. But never saw it it above 74

[green harness]

Eh, just keep it imo

[livid idol]

74 is fine

[green harness]

70s is fine

[livid idol]

Not ideal but it'll survive

[sharp trellis]

Not ideal

[green harness]

The gains are marginal

[livid idol]

Not ideal as in it won't boost as high, it's a small difference

[green harness]

Running it cooler isn't going to be a massive difference

[sharp trellis]

I have the 3x 3060ti in Newegg cart.

Debating in my head to just sell 2x ventus 3060ti for a fair price and pull the trigger on 3x ventus

[green harness]

What pre-built do you have?

[livid idol]

It's probably not worth the hassle

[green harness]

I mean if you could net like 550 on the 2x that'd be fine and all, but depends on your market and such. Not worth it imo

[sharp trellis]

Originally ABS Master gaming Prebuilt, i5-10400 (F) and 3060ti

[livid idol]

If anything you'd want to upgrade to a 3070 or something

[green harness]

Can you send a link to it?

[sharp trellis]

Sure. One moment

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali568/p/N82E16883360198?item=N82E16883360198

[green harness]

I'm just curious what the cooling is like for that PC overall

Is it one fan in the front for intake and one in the back for exhaust?

[sharp trellis]

Oh don't worry about the cooling. I got rid of stock pc case, stock cpu cooler and added few fans and it's going good.

Yep

[green harness]

Ah ok

What case now?

[sharp trellis]

4000D

[green harness]

Nice

I was gonna say a pack of arctic p12s might give you a bigger improvement, but if you've already transplanted the PC you're past that 👍

[sharp trellis]

The reason why I was thinking about getting MSI 3x Ventus.

1. I like MSI brand
2. 3x fans factor more cooling
3. Lowered Temps means gpu will live longer

[livid idol]

You can sell the ventus for $550, maybe more, and get a 3070 ti for $700

This one's on backorder expected next week https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-gv-n307teagle-oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932444

[keen nacelle]

Just monitor gpu Temps while gaming

Decide then

[sharp trellis]

Yeah it's been 74c. Never saw it reach 80

[keen nacelle]

You're fine then

My 3060 ti has seen around 70c while gaming too

And I have one of the mid range models afaik

[sturdy storm]

Aye I am able to ask a quick question about an issue regarding my GPU and the output from it here, right?

Just wondering...

[cerulean rover]

Sure, go ahead

[sturdy storm]

Well, alright
I most likely have an incompatible motherboard, my fault for using a goddamn pre-built because I was broke at the time.

Anyway, I use a GTX 680 for basic gaming and whatnot, most of the issues it has is to do with how it outputs. Any setting that cannot have a driver for the GPU, an example is simply the bootup phase or the UEFI setup screen, does not allow the GPU to show any display output and it will be entirely blank. The power is drawn and whatnot, but no display output. Even before the drivers for Windows were installed, nothing would show up. I've been quizzical about this for quite some time, trying to figure out what had been happening to cause this, or why it had happened to begin with.

I just need to know what is going and, if possible, how I can fix that.

[cerulean rover]

The problem might be that the GPU is too old to support uefi boot, and might need a vbios update or something like that.

[sturdy storm]

I don't even know how any of that would work, I am quite stupid honestly

I mean the GPU was released in 2012 - no telling how old this particular one is - or something, and I believe this motherboard is on a 2020 release or something? idk

I can only see anything before this when I use the integrated graphics :huehpain:

oh another thing, forgot to mention
the screen flashes when a new video on, say, youtube is loaded and when it is resized or something

idk why

[cerulean rover]

Weird, I'm not sure vbios update will affect it, but it would be something you contact the manufacturer about, if possible.
https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/17/~/uefi-%2F-video-bios-download

Screen flashing wise, first thought would be to update drivers

[keen nacelle]

Bruh my friend is about to spend $250 to watercool his 2070, instead of just tryna get a 3060 ti for what the 2070 would sell for+250

It physically hurts

[cerulean rover]

Rip

[cerulean rover]

Did they give any reason?

[keen nacelle]

Because it apparently gets too hot while mining...

[cerulean rover]

lmfao what

[keen nacelle]

Which it does, but they just repadded and pasted it incorrectly

[cerulean rover]

Why did they need to repad it, it's gddr6

[keen nacelle]

Idfk

It gets to 86 on core while mining

[cerulean rover]

Sounds like they didn't uv

[keen nacelle]

Which the general rule of thumb is over 80c on core and vram is getting on the verge of too hot for g6 gpus

Theyre doing -350 core, stock voltage

Idk what power limit

Also don't know the mem oc

[cerulean rover]

Make them lock v/f curve and not do offset if possible

[keen nacelle]

They won't even listen to me when I'm saying to not waste $250 on watercooling the gpu lol

I doubt they'll listen to that

[cerulean rover]

I remember doing like .85v some relatively low core freq and +1200 offset on mem, chilling at 60c kinda thing

[sturdy storm]

god I need to stop using a kepler card æ

[keen nacelle]

I'll try though

[cerulean rover]

If they game, 3060ti is a real upgrade

[keen nacelle]

They do

[cerulean rover]

And ime you don't lose much mining perf

[keen nacelle]

They won't settle for an lhr one too

Counter intuitive

Spend $250 to get the same mining perf

It's so stupid

[cerulean rover]

But the gaming performance should make it useful...

[keen nacelle]

Yep

Exactly what I've said

"In the long term, water cooling my gpu will be better"

[cerulean rover]

I have a 2070 and upgraded to 3060ti, is nice for gaming

[keen nacelle]

Like...

What

[cerulean rover]

I'm in the basically the same scenario and I don't regret it

[keen nacelle]

Oh yay, they're typing

Let's see what they say now...

[cerulean rover]

@keen nacelle ask them if they want to maintain that loop forever in the long term

[sturdy storm]

unrelated question:
would a 1050 (4gb model) be a good alternative to a 1060, could not find a 1060 in stock so I had to look for another æ

[cerulean rover]

Or just get a 3060ti they doesn't take as much maintenance

[cerulean rover]

What's your budget and what price are you seeing for it?

[keen nacelle]

"I’ll propose to my dad that if I give him my current GPU and he partially pays for a newer card."

Not bad ig

[cerulean rover]

A lot better than wasting money on water cooling a card that doesn't need water cooling

[keen nacelle]

Yep

[sturdy storm]

the whole cart was initially like 1600 but I narrowed it down to roughly 1200 which was fine
all USD, I am saving up actually but whatever the gpu I think is like 203 dollars

oh 1050 TI 4gb

not 1050 std.

[keen nacelle]

Oh god

So 1200 usd is the budget?

[dreamy dragon]

Meolsei#4905 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sturdy storm]

that was the case and all the others included

god

[keen nacelle]

Have you bought anything yet

[sturdy storm]

no, still saving up lol

[keen nacelle]

Oh thank god

Alright one minute

[cerulean rover]

I'll leave bacca to make a list

[sturdy storm]

honestly I'd rather get help making the list too I suppose
that or adjusting it since I already made it lmao

[cerulean rover]

For 1600$, ideally you'll want 3060ti/3070

[sturdy storm]

I am not buying just a card, buying an entire system lol

[cerulean rover]

Bacca is most likely making a list so while we're waiting, you could send the list you have if it's on pcpp

[cerulean rover]

Yes, for a 1600$ system, you'll want 3060ti/3070 at least

[magic wing]

indeed

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TwZ78r

[magic wing]

3080 be possible in 1600 budget now

[sturdy storm]

I am trying to stay on a cheaper side with like below $1250 or so

[keen nacelle]

Check the list meolsei

Oh I forgot a heatsink

[dreamy dragon]

TheTrueBacca#2995 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[keen nacelle]

Oops

Typo

One sec

[sturdy storm]

I hate the warns already 💀

lmao I love how the case was what I already chose

[magic wing]

stock cooler pretty fine for 12400 tbh

[sturdy storm]

ok honsetly that price

$1212

• taxes and that bs

and the forgotten sink

[keen nacelle]

Peerless assassin better tho https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Peerless-Assassin-Aluminium-Technology/dp/B0982VWQN1/ref=asc_df_B0982VWQN1/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=532907645911&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8335729239731524541&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003205&hvtargid=pla-1445350208564&psc=1

That link

Thank you amszon

I'm on mobile I'm not shortening that

[cerulean rover]

Lol

[sturdy storm]

I purely use Amazon since I already have Prime sooo yeah
I hate the shipping even if it is cheap-ish

[cerulean rover]

Segotep PSU just feels a lil out of place, even though it's decent

[magic wing]

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Peerless-Assassin-Aluminium-Technology/dp/B0982VWQN1/

[keen nacelle]

Bruh

That makes no sense

[keen nacelle]

Eh, psu prices suck right now

[magic wing]

true and allows u to unlock power limits

[sturdy storm]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0982VWQN1/

the name is not required :)

hey someone want to go into dms so I can kinda elaborate on my list of parts here
maybe change parts, keep a lower price, idk

adjust if needed

idk

[keen nacelle]

Apparently this is on sale rn https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XDHHTX8/

[sturdy storm]

trying to get through this without blowing money

[keen nacelle]

Slightly better psu for slightly less

[sturdy storm]

ok gold nice

[magic wing]

that requires selecting stuff twice and im lazy

[sturdy storm]

Sold by
DealsPro1
not nice

[keen nacelle]

Why

[magic wing]

chopping the end off is good enough

[sturdy storm]

I usually go with trusted sellers

[keen nacelle]

Whats wrong with them

[sturdy storm]

1, idk them
2, I hardly trust most of them

[magic wing]

ask here

[sturdy storm]

æ

[keen nacelle]

They have 100% positive feedback lmao

[sturdy storm]

why do I never check that part

æ

yeah I only wanted to go into dms, @magic wing, because I have no perms for images and I am genuinely too lazy to get a rank for that

regular, namely

[cerulean rover]

Cxf price ain't terrible
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FVJ4XRK

[magic wing]

just chat for like 2 mins

you will have the rank

[keen nacelle]

Segotep same tier

[cerulean rover]

Ne gold Zen is tier c

[sturdy storm]

eh whatever I can't complain there

[keen nacelle]

Wat

I stole it from tech deals

[cerulean rover]

Yes, but cxf gets gold :p

[keen nacelle]

?

[sturdy storm]

anyway
let me get a list redone here

may take me a moment

w>

[keen nacelle]

Didn't I just do that...?

[sturdy storm]

I mean like-
nvm

just what I need
a limit of spending
yada yada

[keen nacelle]

Ah

@sturdy storm don't get the antec neo psu I linked

[cerulean rover]

Anyways cx-f is gold tier b, forgot actual methodology, but still slightly better than segotep

Segotep does have high ripple though iirc, same as platimax on the same platform

But of course, cx-f still kinda overpriced, but it's another option

[keen nacelle]

At that price I'd go butfenix formula gold or rmx, just slightly more iirc

[cerulean rover]

It has cool glowing fan :p

Thought formula gold sale ended

[keen nacelle]

Nvm on those two

D.f 650 is $80 tho

[cerulean rover]

Meh, another option still

D.f. is a justifiable upgrade for 8$ but meh

[keen nacelle]

D.f is high A tier right?

[cerulean rover]

Ye

[keen nacelle]

The a tier psus that I can actually remember are mpg, d.f, bitfenix whisper m, bitfenix formula gold, rmx, and leadex iii

[cerulean rover]

G6 is a temporary favorite of mine, also a tier

[keen nacelle]

Forget about that one

I do, that is

Not saying to forget about it lol

[cerulean rover]

Of course all the newer focus platforms and all the rebrands are also tier a

[sturdy storm]

Sorry for the mini-wall here.

About the spending:
I am trying to spend less than $1,000 (USD, and all proceeding), but $1,250 is the maximum I will handle. I don't necessarily have a job, cannot get one, and have nothing on me and I live with my parents, but that doesn't really matter much.

About what I want:
I do want a good gaming desktop, additionally with a setup redone, but I can buy that later on. I do want to save money here and get something that is not too expensive GPU-wise, any processor, both are fine, obviously an ATX motherboard and case, I won't need 32 GB of ram (yet), so I may stick with 16 GB DDR4 memory, I want to try to get a 1 TB SSD and another 500 GB SSD for storing other unnecessary crap, or to keep the system on, I don't know yet. Though, I will probably want to upgrade all of that too, since I may occasionally do heavy tasks randomly that even the GPU I get will not handle, so yeah. Just saying. Another note, I may get a 650w PSU idfk, that's about it.

[cerulean rover]

Those are just too many to count

[keen nacelle]

1k usd is doable for a different build

Give me a minute

[cerulean rover]

Any reason behind AMD requirement?

Intel just makes more sense for value atm

[keen nacelle]

Intel is currently better price/perf than amd

[magic wing]

swap out gpu for the one in tech deals

all u need

[sturdy storm]

Eh, I mean either one will work actually

[keen nacelle]

500gb hdds are useless

[cerulean rover]

5600 is doable if you really want AMD but

And yea 2tb+ is where hdds remain relevant

[magic wing]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT FINALLY WENT OUT OF STOCK

[cerulean rover]

Oh rip

[sturdy storm]

Editing the message slowly as I read, lol

[keen nacelle]

I would do either the build I just made + a 3060/6600xt, instead of the 3060 ti, or the same build with 12100f and 3060 instead

Oh also if you don't care how it looks mx330-g air is a slightly cheaper case and has good airflow

Just ugly

[sturdy storm]

500 SSD/1 TB SSD, changed that part
Any processor, also changed that part
æ

[cerulean rover]

1tb ssd will be easy to do, just to note

[sturdy storm]

May need help picking out here too, as I entirely redo the list I previously had lmao

[magic wing]

btw the gold rating on the psu doesnt mean much

[keen nacelle]

^^

[magic wing]

doesnt mean its better

[keen nacelle]

Just how efficient it is with how it pulls power from the socket

[magic wing]

theres gold rated power supplies that actually explode

[cerulean rover]

Currently, meta is basically 12100+b660 board and best GPU you can afford

[keen nacelle]

But tier is irrelevant when it comes to rating

[keen nacelle]

12100+3090 ti time

On a 450w psu

[cerulean rover]

Lol

[keen nacelle]

Wait

[cerulean rover]

If you can afford 3090ti you can afford a better PSU smh

[keen nacelle]

"That you can afford"

Nvm

[sturdy storm]

I just hope someone's able to help me build a list here lol
😅

[magic wing]

smh how dare u assume my financial capacity in 2022