graphics-cards

[runic crypt]

My uni starts August 30th.

[vital oriole]

that's pretty poor

[runic crypt]

Which is relatively late.

[vital oriole]

i think you can get 3090 for that

[heady turtle]

Can buy a scalped 3080 ti for that price

[runic crypt]

Wait some of these cost over 1000 legit?

[heady turtle]

Yuh

Well

[crisp ocean]

Yeah true lmao

[runic crypt]

I thought the video card alone was usually only above the price of the newest big consoles.

[crisp ocean]

I had a 3080ti and refunded it cause 1900 after tax was too much

[runic crypt]

As in 600.

or even 800.

[crisp ocean]

I know I’ll make 900 back but eh

[runic crypt]

Are these rarer variants of these cards?

[heady turtle]

The msrp for 3080 is 700, 3080 ti 1200(way to high but they taking advantage of the market) and a 3090(basically a titan card) is 1500

[runic crypt]

That's a huge jump.

From 3080 to its Ti variant.

[heady turtle]

3090 is basically only for workstations

Ye

3080 ti is just a 3090 with less vram

[runic crypt]

As in high-end CS work?

Or just office stuff

[cerulean rover]

And a few less cores

[crisp ocean]

If I see an MSRP 3090 I would rather buy that

[runic crypt]

is 1500 the MSRP or the scalped price?

Since the market's huge, I can see that being the MSRP right now.

[heady turtle]

Yes but hardly noticeable, beats 3090 sometimes so

[heady turtle]

As in high end video editing stuff like that

[runic crypt]

Oh!

Real stuff

[heady turtle]

All the prices i listed are msrp

[runic crypt]

oh wow

That's a way to exploit the market.

[heady turtle]

Well 3090 is basically a titan card which are never for the price conscious they just wanna squeeze every bit of perf

[runic crypt]

I didn't think they have to worry about price.

But that's pretty top end.

[heady turtle]

[cerulean rover]

Would put that down as just test to test variation and just boosting behavior

[heady turtle]

Fair enough

[cerulean rover]

FE to FE, 3090 is just better

Higher base clock, higher stock memory clock

Few more shader units and TMUs

[uneven rover]

has anyone gotten a card withing $100~ of msrp?

[cerulean rover]

A few people have gotten MSRP cards from best buy

[uneven rover]

wahhh!

how?/

[cerulean rover]

BB drops

[uneven rover]

they always sold out

[cerulean rover]

The in-person drop a few weeks back had a lot of cards

[uneven rover]

oohh because i was on the site and they said no online sales

[cerulean rover]

It's often out of stock online

But there's drops online too once in a while

[uneven rover]

man i've been waiting sooo long actually it's making my head hurt

i have everything but the gpu collecting dusk in my room

[heady turtle]

Check the pins for a guide to buying a gpu btw

[uneven rover]

Pins? where?

[heady turtle]

@uneven rover

[uneven rover]

ohh ok thanks!

[heady turtle]

Np

[crisp ocean]

My 3070 was 600 AFTER tax

[uneven rover]

lucky guy, when did you buy it?

[crisp ocean]

November 4th

[uneven rover]

ohh and where @crisp ocean

like online or in store

[crisp ocean]

Microcenter

[vestal atlas]

yo really quick will we be waiting a year for the gpus to come back in stock?

or is it looking like a few months

balls

im honestly so tired im thinking of getting a gaming laptop

i know i shouldn't

but im starting to get impatient

hm nice

do you think ill be good if i keep the laptop cooled?

like a powerful laptop fan

and keep the laptop internal fans on max all the time

hm nice

i mean my house is kept at like 75 degress

so its pretty neutral in here

and also if i do get a gaming laptop im gonna be playing 2 1080p monitors with vr

yeah

im pretty sure i can keep it below that if i take good measures

will the laptop still wear down anyways even if i keep it decently cooled? or is that the main problem

isn't that like 110f?

well i mean ive had mine for that time and its pretty worn down lol

hmmm

ugh i hate the time we are in

we are in such a weird gray area spot

yeah i would make sure to take care of it

i used to but i dont anymore

especially after the w key popped off lol

mhm same

even tho i could dust mine

oh dayum what

does that not insulate the heat?

tru

ah ok

yeah i wouldn't expect it to get hot from that stuff

and the more i think about it

the more i wanna pull the trigger on just getting a laptop

like there is so much stuff that i want to do right now

but im being held back on my old one im using rn

well im using a main monitor rn

i wouldn't be using the keyboard or screen

cause i have other ones

and its kinda annoying because i know they price it higher for those features that i dont use

ye

im gonna go do some research on the available laptops rn

thanks for the advice

cya

[crisp ocean]

Unopened 1100

Go for it?

Or a 3070 for a 6800XT

@heady turtle you are my impulse control

[heady turtle]

Doing alright there bud?

[heady turtle]

Basically a 3080 sooo would you pay 1100 for a 3080 that can't mine as well or rt as well or dlss or rtx broadcast or nvenc?

If that helps

[crisp ocean]

What about the trade

[heady turtle]

[crisp ocean]

My zotac 3070 I paid $600 for

[heady turtle]

Ohh i would trade

[crisp ocean]

For a 6800XT

I would too

I’ll ask

[heady turtle]

If none of the Nvidia features matter to you

Then 100%

I assume they want 3070 for nvenc or it's broken or something lol

Just test it before trade mb

[crisp ocean]

How would I test it before trade lol

I’ll ask them to send benchmarks

Also I just game

[heady turtle]

I just mean test to see if it works lol

Incase it wasn't a dead card they tryna scam ppl with or something

[crisp ocean]

Yeah I’ll ask em to test it

If they don’t trade back I’m out of luck

I could call the police I guess

[heady turtle]

Lol

[noble yew]

won a 3060 in the new egg raffle

thanks newegg ily

[livid idol]

Nice! Congrats on the win

[noble yew]

thanks bro

really excited but it gets here on wednesday even tho i paid express shipping

sadge

[pallid coyote]

Congrats!

[noble yew]

thanks 🙂

[heady turtle]

Ehh i mean its a Saturday so Wednesday sounds like a good shipping time to me lol but congrats

[livid idol]

Yeah the shipping is a little hectic in the warehouse, takes a little more time to process than normal

That still sounds like 3 business day shipping

[noble yew]

true yeah

really excited tho

hope my 3600xt doesnt bottleneck it or vise versa

[livid idol]

Nah should be fine

In most games at least. There's always going to be some sort of bottleneck.

[crisp ocean]

Should I get a get 1.6k 3080ti AORUS master

@heady turtle

In stock right in front of me

[heady turtle]

Up to you, i wouldn't pay more than 1500 but ehh it's up to you i suppose

[crisp ocean]

I’m sorry

[heady turtle]

Congrats

[crisp ocean]

Thanks lmao

$1720 in total

Not too bad

[heady turtle]

I forgot that didn't include tax lmao

Damm

[crisp ocean]

Eh

It has a screen so it’s ok

[heady turtle]

Lmao

[crisp ocean]

• I will no longer need to spend money on the water block

[heady turtle]

Oh it's got a wb?

[crisp ocean]

No

I just think it’s too cool to WB

[heady turtle]

Ahh fair lol

[crisp ocean]

Should I DDU my drivers

[livid idol]

It doesn't hurt to be safe

[hot folio]

Yeah you should DDU

I wouldn’t WB an Aorus master because that’s just getting rid of it’s whole gimmick

[crisp ocean]

I know im boy

Not

So that’s why I’m justifying spending so much

[hot folio]

Hi boy I’m Alec

[dreamy dragon]

samer-AS#2888 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dreamy dragon]

!void_point!#3354 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[crisp ocean]

Thanks

[dreamy dragon]

Rommy#7202 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[crisp ocean]

It works too

Just PSU cables look horrible

[heady turtle]

How come?

[crisp ocean]

Because it’s from the power supply

And there’s 2 customs 1 not

[heady turtle]

Ahh

[crisp ocean]

Any recs for cables?

Pref not extensions

[hot folio]

You need to make sure they match the PSU

[heady turtle]

That would be modular cabels not extensions

[crisp ocean]

Cable mod is damn expensive

[heady turtle]

Cable mods also dangerous

If don't match

[crisp ocean]

Oh I made sure it matched

I’m not paying 100+

[shy sluice]

I have 2 builds: (1) 10900k w/ 3060 & (2) 5900x w/ 3070. I use 43" 4k 60hz 6 or 8ms response time monitor. Would my gaming experience benefit more from (a) upgrading 3060 to 3080+ or (b) upgrading monitor to 43" 4k 144hz 1ms monitor?

[heady turtle]

Yes to first, yes to second if you get over 60fps in the games

[livid idol]

It depends most on what you play. If you're playing things like AC Valhalla, the 3060 isn't going to get more than 30fps or so on 4k ultra. It's more of a 1440p card. Even the 3070 would be around 45-50 fps.

[shy sluice]

hmm so a 3070 on 4k won't benefit much from a higher fresh rate/response time?

on the monitor I mean

[livid idol]

Probably not, unless you play games that you're getting way more than 60 fps or you set the resolution down to 1440p or less for more frames, but then that defeats the purpose entirely

[shy sluice]

entirely ya haha

[livid idol]

1 ms response is a gimmick number, they use grey to grey time

[shy sluice]

So basically to get to the next level I need to upgrade both?

as far as 4k gaming goes I mean

& if I only upgraded the monitor, the experience wouldn't change much outside of maybe better colors

[livid idol]

Well the 3080 can do 4k ultra at about 60-75 fps, which is a good fit for a 60hz monitor since the 1% lows will be around the refresh rate

[shy sluice]

oh okay wow so my 3070 really isn't even enough for a 4k 60hz

I do see tearing from time time

[livid idol]

Monitor isn't really a worthwile upgrade, yeah. Unless you turn the details way down you won't hit 4k@120

[shy sluice]

time to time

Like on Resident Evil 3 (2019 or 2020 game) I can't even go 100% on all settings because of the lack of VRAM on 3070 and same with 3060 because of clock speed

[formal umbra]

Hey chat! Anyone here know where I can find a GPU? 3060+? I tried my best to score one from Best Buy, but everyone is so fast!

[livid idol]

#graphics-cards message

[shy sluice]

techwithexcellence lol

[crisp ocean]

@heady turtle sorry for ping

but this is with no OC

like thaqts kinda insane

[livid idol]

That's a higher graphics score than my overclocked 3090 GigaNerf edition

[shy sluice]

wow with what card?

[livid idol]

I'm not salty I swear

3080 ti

[heady turtle]

Pretty good

[crisp ocean]

bahahaha

[shy sluice]

My graphics scope is like 13k with 3070

[crisp ocean]

maybe golden sample?

[shy sluice]

oh wait jk it says 3080ti there

[livid idol]

Or it's got a good cooler and good airflow so it holds boost through the test since this is stock

Max out the power limit next and don't touch anything else

[crisp ocean]

lemme update drivers

theoretically since i didnt ddu, and only pupdateds

its like the same thing right

like a fresh driver

[livid idol]

If you're not having any problems simply checking the "clean install" box in the nvidia installer is good enough

[crisp ocean]

alr

also do i need a fan curve set rn

[shy sluice]

So in conclusion, get the monitor, see how it goes, & probably have to upgrade video card? lol

[crisp ocean]

i also havbe dual bios

[shy sluice]

or just keep things as is & be happy

lol

[crisp ocean]

so ill test it out later'

[vital pivot]

Nice test fallen

[livid idol]

Even the 3080 will have trouble getting stable 4k 60fps at high detail, unless you're playing cs:go or overwatch type stuff that has ridiculous frame rates

I'd just upgrade the GPU in your case personally

[shy sluice]

I need to run TimeSpy extreme again & see what my 4k frames look like presently, but I think they're like 49-52 at best

[livid idol]

If you drop to lower resolution you might be able to overclock the panel to like 70hz or more

[shy sluice]

the thing is, it's a Samsung commercial display so I don't know how well it'll handle custom settings like that

[livid idol]

That's average frame rate, you want your refresh to be a little higher than your 1% lows which are probably 35-40 fps in that test

[shy sluice]

I tried getting 75hz out of it but it wouldn't play ball

I didn't drop the resolution tho let me try

[crisp ocean]

I also need to see the OC bios

I’ll run it with max power limit rn

And then I gotta run

[shy sluice]

let me see if it'll hit 75hz at 1440

[crisp ocean]

Let’s hope my psu doesn’t crap itself

[livid idol]

It's usually only another 50W or so, maybe 75W

[shy sluice]

ya it won't go 75hz at 1440

I could try 1080 but what's the point

[livid idol]

Ah darn, yeah no point trying 1080p on that panel

[shy sluice]

It won't even do that anyway

maybe if I change it to interlaced lol

You think changing it from 16:9 to native resolution in settings might do it?

doubt it

Also disabling HDR might effect it

dunno

[crisp ocean]

@livid idol

I got a higher GPU score lmao

[shy sluice]

oh ya well I got 24,097 on Cinebench? jk this isn't a peeing contest

[crisp ocean]

Proof

Bam

[livid idol]

400 points extra just from allowing it to use more power

[shy sluice]

hmm my display allows me to run it at 4096x2160 but then it's offscren. useless

Wait so how are y'all allocating more power?

In X1, I'm allowing 111% which is max. Any way to do more? lol

[crisp ocean]

Somethings weird about my cards hashrate

Oh nvm

It started at 100mh/s

Dropped duradticslly

[shy sluice]

Do you enable Boost Lock?

[crisp ocean]

What

No it’s LHR

[shy sluice]

hmm might see higher scores in benchmark with Boostlock so it doesn't clock down

[crisp ocean]

it shouldn’t be hitting 100

[heady turtle]

Ye it starts high then is like :o ether

[crisp ocean]

And dude I popped it in like an hour ago lmao

I haven’t had time to configure ANYTHING

I don’t even have the software yet

[shy sluice]

wow crazy good numbers already

[shy sluice]

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64886958?

Ya I don't think I'd benefit from a 140hz monitor with numbers like that

[livid idol]

44-48 average, not going to get even close to 120 even with details turned down

[shy sluice]

hmm need 3080ti or 3090 huh?

[hot folio]

I mean I’m pretty sure time spy is at 4k if I’m not mistaken

[livid idol]

Even that won't get you to 4k 120+fps

[hot folio]

^

[livid idol]

The Time Spy Extreme is yes

[hot folio]

Regular time spy is 1440p?

[cerulean rover]

Time spy is 1440p iirc

[hot folio]

Ahh ok

[shy sluice]

what's the bottleneck?

[livid idol]

Modern GPU technology?

[hot folio]

^

Wait like 2 GPU gens then you’ll probably be able to do 4k 120+FPS

[livid idol]

You could probably SLI 2x 3090s and get 4k120 in games that support SLI

(Which are rare now)

[wicked hound]

Does timespy work with mGPU, or is it SLI only?

[hot folio]

No SLI in 3090s it’s NVLink now

[heady turtle]

Timespy works with a gt 710 and a 6900xt xD

[livid idol]

Interchangeable terms, same concept

[wicked hound]

Last I checked it was still SLI under NVLINK bridge

[hot folio]

Ehh not really, but similar

[wicked hound]

Real NVlink still for quadro only no?

[hot folio]

With NVLink with 2 3090s you get access to 48gb of VRAM

[hot folio]

And 3090s

[wicked hound]

Ah, so it is actually NVLINK now

[hot folio]

Yeah

Forgot who it was but someone explained that to me like a week ago

Before then I also thought it was just SLI

[wicked hound]

I assumed it was like Turing, SLI under NVLINK bridge

[hot folio]

Yeah same

[livid idol]

People still cheat time spy scores by putting a powerful GPU with a weak one and submitting as the weak one

They get flagged in hwbot but still

[wicked hound]

Wish Nvidia would push NVLINK more. SLI/NVLINK can actually work quite nicely for games. Couldn't grow at the start cuz SLI sucked. Then when SLI was getting good Nvidia locked SLI out to only high end GPUs

[livid idol]

2 reasons they're moving away from it:
Driver support is a PAIN
Game devs hated integrating it

[wicked hound]

Unless we really change our ways of doing things, I'm pretty sure we aren't that far away from needing to do dual GPU of some sort for advancing GPU tech.

[livid idol]

That's why the 3090 still supports it, those things that REALLY need the tech will need all that vram

AMD is launching another dual gpu too, it has 2 monolithic dies

[wicked hound]

I'd say its similar to CPU. Multi threading certainly is a pain to do as well. Tho, finding the good way to do multi threading was much quicker then the good way to do multiple GPUs (checkerboard rendering for games at least).

[livid idol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NgJKOUQMNw (9:21)

[wicked hound]

Tho, CPU multi threading got more adoption as 99.999% of people had at least two threads, most likely 4+, by the time game devs started doing it.

Also ye, seen the dual GPU thing

[livid idol]

CPU multithreading is easiest to do if they just split up the tasks. A common approach is to have 1 or 2 main threads and the rest are for smaller stuff like audio. It's still complex and hard to synchronize, though.

[wicked hound]

Ye. Just am mildly annoyed that Nvidia started locking down SLI/NVLINK just as it was getting good. If that stuff could actually grow for the adoption of the good multiple GPU rendering being put in an okay amt of games, that would've been quite the nice time. Sadly cuz business is business and the larger money goes towards locking things down, we arent going to see large multiple GPU adoption for a long time

[keen nacelle]

I'm still pretty new to pcs so this might sound stupid

Why couldn't they just make the gpu 2x bigger with double the original specs?

And have it cost 2x the original card?

Bc running dual gpus takes up 2x the space anyways

[cerulean rover]

@keen nacelle bigger die = lower yield = harder to make more

Also, think about the amount of heat

Dual-GPU cards do exist

Look at 295x2

Also like GTX 590

[keen nacelle]

I figured heat would be an issue but I didn't think of that first part

For heat couldn't they just put 3 more fans on the top?

[cerulean rover]

The problem is density

Think about it

The contact area is only so small

[keen nacelle]

Ah

Yeah that makes sense

Other than those issues, would the performance actually double?

[cerulean rover]

But well, more innovation means we can move forwards one way or another

Double? Probably not

[keen nacelle]

Though ig it would be a completely separate gpu tbf

[cerulean rover]

It's like how dual GPU would be like 1.8x the power of a single GPU on average in some tasks, data transfer between the cards add latency and a possible bottleneck

[keen nacelle]

At the same time, there aren't really any cpus that could even keep up with 1.8x the power of a 3090

Maybe the 5950x/5900x at 4k

Oh wait dual cpus exist

I forgot about thst

[vital oriole]

just crank to 8k

[cerulean rover]

Oh I'm not talking gaming

[keen nacelle]

I have no clue how that works though

[cerulean rover]

Gaming doesn't like multi GPU

Barely ever works

[vital oriole]

yeup

sli proved us

[keen nacelle]

Oh I thought it was just the way sli worked

[cerulean rover]

Unless a genius makes a better sli

[vital oriole]

nvlink is something like that

[cerulean rover]

Gaming probably won't ever like multi GPU

It's just time sensitive

[vital oriole]

but it's not exactly suitable for games either

[cerulean rover]

The latency hurts

At 144fps, you're rendering an entire frame every ~7ms

So that latency between cards can really hurt

[keen nacelle]

Meaning you'd see inages much later than normal?

[cerulean rover]

No, I'm saying everything needs to go quick

[keen nacelle]

Ohhh I get it

[cerulean rover]

Think about it like this
Input -> GPU 1, 3ms -> Screen
Or
Input -> GPU 1, 1ms, -> GPU to GPU interface, 1ms, -> GPU 2, 1ms -> Screen

Massive simplification, and probably wrong, but just think about that

Sure the two GPUs in that situation should've gotten the frame in 2ms, but there's another factor in there

Something needs to tell the GPUs what to render, how to share the load

That calculation takes time

Half and half just doesn't really work

What if half the screen is the sky and the other half has a spaceship? One GPU would have a much heavier load, and take much longer to render, probably leading to tearing without some kind of v sync, which slows it down

[keen nacelle]

Yeah that makes sense

[wicked hound]

Nah, checkerboard rendering is pretty nice I hear. Just that there is no more multiple GPU adoption anymore

[cerulean rover]

Haven't really seen a good implementation tho

[wicked hound]

Dont know how much you know Zhrooms from GloriousGaming server, but he's seen some good implementations from what I hear. Usually pretty trustworthy dude

[cerulean rover]

I don't know them, since I'm not in the glorious server

Might have to visit

[wicked hound]

You're in the server looks like, probs just dont visit

Anyways, I asked him for some games that have it.

[cerulean rover]

Oh wait

Yea

I'm in that server

No idea when I joined it

[hot folio]

What do y’all think is the highest graphics score I could get with a 6800xt in time spy without MPT?

[bitter patio]

Hi just upgraded my Pc to 5600x with rtx2070 super. And I’m thinking on buying a new screen. Will this build do 2k good? Or should I remain with 1080p? I’m playing online and want goof frame rate

[hot folio]

I think you should stick with 1080p if you want good frame rates

1440p high you’ll be around 100 I’m pretty sure

[cerulean rover]

depends on the game in the end

2070 super can do fine at 1440p, on esports titles

[bitter patio]

War zone, rust mostly

[hot folio]

For those you’d want as much FPS as you can get

[faint steeple]

1440p was fine for me on the 2070S when I used it. could play any game at 1440p.

War zone it handles it like a champ I remember

was able to do RTX and max settings at like 100 fps or something

prob a bit higher

but dont really remember

[keen nacelle]

with a 2070s? nahh

i get 140fps with a 3060 ti without ray tracing on 1080p

[faint steeple]

well yeah thats a different gpu

[keen nacelle]

yeah a better one

[faint steeple]

but like I remember very clearly being above 100 fps

but it was in like 2020 so maybe stuff on war zone changed

[keen nacelle]

to get max settings with ray tracing warzone says 2080s on 1440p

last i checked anyways, in like february

[faint steeple]

says 2080S for 4K

[keen nacelle]

oh im blind

i guess what i saw was wrong

or im stupid

[faint steeple]

I mean I actually played the game with a 2070S so I know

@keen nacelle so I found an old clip that I took and I was getting like 90 fps average

[hot folio]

It’s painful trying to play with minimum specs

[keen nacelle]

warzone is just so badly optimized

i didnt think a 2070s would pull 100fps on 1440p with max

[hot folio]

Oh yeah definitely not

[bitter patio]

thanks!

[keen nacelle]

no i was wrong

ignore me

[bitter patio]

so I would get less than 100fps?

[keen nacelle]

no

somewhere around 90-100

i thought you wouldnty

[faint steeple]

its around 100 fps but I played on max settings with rtx on so you can definitely tune some settings to get more + DLSS will help a bit

[clever pagoda]

Anyone know any decent laptops for gaming?

[spare relic]

the gaming ones

[heady turtle]

Depends on the budget

[clever pagoda]

I guess less than 1000

[normal hawk]

Why have ray tracing enabled 🤷‍♂️

[normal hawk]

https://www.newegg.com/zotac-zt-a30810f-10p/p/N82E16814500515

If anyone's desperate 🤣

[sullen panther]

Does anyone know what this gpu is by just looking at it?

They claim it's a 3070 but it does not look like one at all to me

[normal hawk]

I dunno

[sullen panther]

All I see is evga but I don't see an evga card that looks like that

[normal hawk]

Ye that's what I was thinking

[sullen panther]

For 3070

Ill just pass on it, they wanted 1k for it and the motherboard looks ancient too so

[keen nacelle]

I'm like10% sure that's a 980 ti

[keen nacelle]

@sullen panther

[sullen panther]

That does sound right

The dude said he paid 3500 bucks for that machine lmao

[keen nacelle]

He probably just lying lol

Or doesn't know any better

[sullen panther]

He says he doesn't really know pc stuff in the description and said that it was a 3070 based on someone who built it for him

He probably got scammed hardcore

[toxic sinew]

That is not a 3070

That's a GTX 970

EVGA GTX 970 SC

[little sleet]

i miss my 970 sc

[toxic sinew]

I mean it also says GTX 970 in two spots on the card physically

[sullen panther]

Ty

[feral thistle]

is it okay to wrap or spray paint ur gpu

[toxic sinew]

Just the shroud, nothing else

[keen nacelle]

Idk he probably went pre built for the same reason I did a while back, no clue about pcs, wouldn't be surprised if someone took advantage of that

But it is also possible he's lying

True

[twilit magnet]

/nick CausticBanjo(5090TiPlusExtremeOCEdition)

Wait we aren't allowed to change our nick?

[heady turtle]

You can use nicknames but just there's no command for it/the command is disabled

Click on your profile, manage user, edit nickname there

[normal hawk]

Hydroplate the shroud

[feral thistle]

wait

the shroud

idk

[normal hawk]

Fan ye

[feral thistle]

which part that is

[normal hawk]

Fan, backplate, PCB cover etc

[feral thistle]

ah

thats it?

[normal hawk]

Yea

[feral thistle]

nothing else

[pallid coyote]

Lenovo Legion, HP Omen, MSI, Asus ROG Strix,

[normal hawk]

Why are Zotac cards so expensive 🤷‍♂️

[lone pond]

if its a really smooth shroud like on the 30 series TUFs you can use vinyl

[feral thistle]

how about

an msi card

[lone pond]

link me

[normal hawk]

What kinda games do you want to play?

[lone pond]

alot are still good priced, most are just due to tariffs

they took advantage of it

[feral thistle]

like this one

[lone pond]

no

you can't vinyl that

you can hydro dip it

[normal hawk]

That's not scalped btw, in stock on Newegg

[lone pond]

ya, MSRP is $1,200 add 200 or so for tariffs then like $400 jsut bc they wanted to and took advantage of it, the original 3060ti stuff etc is still under $550 n the likes

they don't really restock the good priced ones on other websties

[normal hawk]

True

And then neweggs out here selling an open box card for the same price as the new one? :l

[crisp ocean]

And the backplate

[crisp ocean]

Horrible deal

My 3080ti was less after tax

[normal hawk]

I know, but the open box is a worst deal lol

[crisp ocean]

True

[crisp ocean]

I would not buy open box

[normal hawk]

You gotta make open box tempting 🤷‍♂️ lol

I got an open box 2070 super on amazon before the shortage. Was 400$ before tax.

[pallid coyote]

Especially when its the same price as new

[pallid coyote]

That's a pretty good price for a 2070 super.

[normal hawk]

Ye.

The white windforce 3x

[desert flicker]

ya boi still has an gtx 960

[feral thistle]

ayo

is a 2080

much more powerful than a 3060

[pallid coyote]

2080 is more powerful than the 3060 but 3060 has better Ray Tracing and DLSS. Now, once you get into 3070 and above, they're better than the 2080

[clever pagoda]

That's over 1k doh

[crisp ocean]

3050ti is pretty ass

What’s the cpu

Ah ok

[hot folio]

Doesn’t the 2080 now have the same DLSS now that the actual software side of it is good

[crisp ocean]

No there’s hardware limitations too

[hot folio]

Ahh ok

[pallid coyote]

This

[fickle minnow]

Question, so I have an old AMD R9 390 and I'm overclocking ever so slightly at 1065. I'm terrified of it getting too hot tho so I don't want to push it too far but how far do you think is safe? It's at 59-60c at the moment.

[solemn panther]

As long as it doesn't go in the 90s it shouldn't be a problem

[fickle minnow]

Sweet, ty!

[solemn panther]

Yw

[bitter jungle]

Those are actually pretty dang good temps for an R9 card

[cerulean rover]

2080 will still be better at ray tracing and DLSS, 2080 has 46 RT cores when 3060 has just 28, and afaik, RT cores haven't really changed generation over generation so far

[magic wing]

3050ti bad tbh

3050ti = 1660 iirc

3050ti is extremely bad

Exactly

[magic wing]

No u

[pallid coyote]

1660 is still better

[magic wing]

For the vram yes

Otherwise pretty much the same

[proper laurel]

So, im still rocking a GeForce gtx 970. I've been looking into getting a better graphics card soon. Any recommendations? I'm not hell bent on staying with Nvidia, so im open to options.

[solemn panther]

Mmmmm

Why do u want to go to other options?

Nvidia is the best

AMD has issues with drivers and overall aren't as good

There are more 3090s out in the wild that all 60 series cards combined

What resolution are you currently running at what refresh rate?

Nvidia is not perfect but I've had 4 cards so far and no issues

From 3 generations

[toxic sinew]

Deez Nutz

[dreamy dragon]

Harru#0961 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Harru#0961 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[pallid coyote]

Yes they do, I almost always have to revert the latest driver to an older one at work since they cause issues. Been trying to get my company to go to Nvidia

[toxic sinew]

lmfao

[forest vector]

free my man harru

[vital pivot]

@worldly kraken where is it giving you that messagfe

heh.. missed the kick message

[solemn panther]

Good call. A company as well as gamers need capable hardware

[pallid coyote]

Agreed, we're at least using Nvidia for our engineering laptops so that's a step in the right direction.

[proper laurel]

1080p at 60fps I believe? I wanted to go to a higher resolution, but would like to get a higher frame rate if possible as well. I'm honestly surprised that my gpu can withstand these new games coming out with how old it is. Granted, not at the best quality, but still playable lol.

[solemn panther]

1440p is the best way to go rn. 1080p and especially 60fps with that revolution is a huge bottleneck for modern GPUs with how powerful they are. i personally would get a 3080 if you have the money to get great frames at 1440p with a 144hz monitor which is now a standard for most gamers. If you can't afford that get a 3060ti or 3070 instead

[proper laurel]

Alright, I'll look into those. Thank you.

[solemn panther]

Yee

[proper laurel]

Damn, 3060 ti and 3070 are still pretty expensive currently.

[grizzled charm]

dam

i should have gottwn a 1440 then

[hot folio]

What did you get?

[twin berry]

anyone know where i can get a 3070 msrp

[proper laurel]

Sadly I'm not sure. been searching around and I'm only really seeing them 900 plus.

[hot folio]

BEst buy

[proper laurel]

I still consider myself fairly new to pc building, (this pc is my second one I ever got due to my old pc I built over 6 years ago crashed on me) I've only really used older parts rather then current gen due to how expensive things were in the past. Anyways, I had a question that might be extremely obvious to some people, but I want to make sure I don't ruin any new parts I get when I do buy stuff. Are there any major draw backs or complications if your motherboard's pcie express slots are of a "grade" lower then the gpu's? As an example, my current motherboard has a pcie express slot 3.0, however the gpu I was looking at is for slot 4.0. Also, apologies for the wall of text XD.

[raven thunder]

well not really, pcie 3.0 vs 4.0 doesn't "ruin" your parts

some very small performence benifts for very high end gpus but smt like a 3060 will be fine

may i ask, whats your budget?

ye, the bandwidth is more than enough on 3.0 for gpus

[proper laurel]

Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarification. Considering how the current market is, I'm going to have to save up money for some time for a new gpu. Currently lets say my budget of $1000.

[raven thunder]

ugh if it werent for this situation

1000 will be enough for a 3080....

ig wait

for a while

[solemn panther]

Mmm yes

[raven thunder]

very diffcult at least in the near future

[solemn panther]

Rommy my boy

Good. Finally

Almost died

Cool

[proper laurel]

Something I'm trying to keep in mind too, is that I'll have to upgrade my monitor depending on which graphics card I get. My monitor is just a 1080p at maybe 60fps. I'm pretty sure this thing also has a really bad refresh rate as well lol.

[solemn panther]

But u killed it

[raven thunder]

maybe take a few hundred from that 1000 for a decent 1440p 144hz monitor

[solemn panther]

What monitor do u have?

[raven thunder]

get a 3070 instead or smt, save some money

[solemn panther]

3080 would be better👀

3070 doesn't cut it in some cases

[raven thunder]

duhhhh

[raven thunder]

will definitely cut it for him since he is upgrading from a 960

mhm maybe 200 for monitor + 800 for gpu but thats way too idealistic 😩

[grizzled nimbus]

girafeics carb

[proper laurel]

My monitor is an acer lcd monitor with only dvi input.

[grizzled nimbus]

those are mine

[raven thunder]

😣

[proper laurel]

Hey, at least I was able to still play and beat re8 with my geforce gtx 970 XD. Granted, not optimally lol. I also need to get a new motherboard and extra ram. My current one has two ram slots that don't work lol. So, realistically I'll upgrade my budget to 1400~? I think that'll do it..

[raven thunder]

what r u planning to play?

[proper laurel]

Anything from AAA to indies and then some. I play a lot of games XD.

[hollow heath]

If I were to trade a RX 6700 XT and a 1080 Ti what could I be able to get for them

[dreamy dragon]

AwesomeTroller2000#4688 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[bitter jungle]

Customers build that’s having issues. Any idea what it could be? I’m thinking vram overheating.

Or vram bad in general

[shy sluice]

have they tried a different monitor?

or lowered/changed resolution/refresh rate?

[twin berry]

looks like bad RAM installation maybe

also yes bad vram

[toxic sinew]

Bad RAM installation does not do that

[twin berry]

i mean like the ram got unseated and then damaged the ram

i've seen times where people take out ram while the system is running and the same pattern appears

[keen nacelle]

Maybe a lhr 3080

[hollow heath]

Oh fr?

[keen nacelle]

If you're lucky

That's why I said maybe

[bitter jungle]

This is my monitor lol. Not monitor issue.

[bitter jungle]

Already tested ram, no errors

This only happens under load to the GPU btw, like Furmark

[twin berry]

then yes it's going to be a heat related problem

try getting the gpu out and skinning it

maybe the heatsink and fans are bad or it could be that there's something wrong with them

if it's not the gpu then it could be ventilation in the case

[bitter jungle]

Well uhh

[twin berry]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[bitter jungle]

I don’t think there are any thermal pads on the vram tho

[twin berry]

it probably is a heat issue then

[bitter jungle]

But, also, I had this thing run Furmark for like 5 hours before I sold it and had no issues, so idk how this could pop up

[twin berry]

try getting some thermal pads on there then and it also could be that the thermal paste on the gpu has worn of

[bitter jungle]

I replaced thermal paste a month ago

Temps are fine on the die, but I haven’t measured VRAM actually, I should do that

[hot folio]

Yeah vram issue, had the same thing on 3 of my 20 series cards

[bitter jungle]

3???? Lmao poor thing

[hot folio]

Lmao all 7 of my 20 series cards broke in some way or another

I fixed one of them that had those squares by replacing the vram

What card is it?

[bitter jungle]

Do you guys know of a definitive way to test vram?

It’s a GTX 950

[hot folio]

I think OCCT might

[twin berry]

lmaooooo

bruh

my trash can 3060 heatsink is getting bodied by my 2060

the thermals are so much better on my 2060

[normal hawk]

On steam.

That's not including mining cards 🤷‍♂️ lol

[hot folio]

Had issues, 60 series doesn’t have those same issues. If he doesn’t stream or doesn’t care about RT AMD is a perfectly good option

[solemn panther]

OKay you two

🙃

[hot folio]

Actually tho I had this 6800xt since like the beginning of those summer like mid June. I only had on crash and that was when I set the core clock too high

Under normal use I had no problems whatsoever

[solemn panther]

Eh

Papa Jensen all day

[vital oriole]

i mean

rt+dlss is the jazz

[livid idol]

The only game I have that supports both is Control, I got it free from Epic lol

[vital oriole]

fair

[livid idol]

Real time raytracing has the potential to change gaming graphics forever. But for now, it's only that, potential.

[vital oriole]

yeah

it needs time

i say 5-10 years

[hollow heath]

So

3070 Ti for a 1080 Ti and RX 6700 XT good trade for who? Who loses?

[normal hawk]

I think it depends on what the people trading want.

[hollow heath]

No like

Literally someone has a 3070 Ti

I have a 1080 Ti and RX 6700 XT

[normal hawk]

Yeah, it still depends on what the both of you want.

Value is all sentimental imo. If you want 1440p gaming and they wanted 1080p gaming they could take the trade and sell the 6700xt for 700-800$ to a miner potentially i think.

Then no one loses.

[hollow heath]

I want 1080P gaming

[keen nacelle]

I really don't notice a difference with raytracing, other than the frame drop lol

[normal hawk]

From being on QA i can tell you RT on warzone is stupid

The sun is the only light source on the day maps. Including warzone. So you just lose performance for nothing. Rt is honestly pointless in any competitive game due to the loss in performance

It's fact not an opinion. Raytracing is cool for open world games and such where the game is designed around it like control.

[runic crypt]

Isn’t ray tracing best optimized for Minecraft until proven otherwise?

It’s quite beautiful there.

[normal hawk]

Optimized? No.

Implemented? Yes

[runic crypt]

Oh, my mistake.

I meant from an aesthetic, not fidelity, standpoint.

[normal hawk]

Ye

[keen nacelle]

That'd make sense, I've only tested rtx in warzone and cold war

I haven't played any other games since I got my pc that has rtx

[normal hawk]

Racing games also have a reason to have Raytracing. Especially if you set it to rain 🥰

[keen nacelle]

I need to find some more games

[runic crypt]

Sounds lovely.

[keen nacelle]

I play valorant, minecraft and among us mostly

[runic crypt]

Remember the time the dino known as the SNES did Ray Tracing? It was a cute moment from a homebrew dev.

[normal hawk]

Would you like to play control?

[keen nacelle]

I've got a controller I bought a little while back for rocket league, ended up playing that twice

I'm pretty bad with it since I haven't used one since I had a ps4 2 or so years ago but id be down to try it

[keen nacelle]

What happened?

[runic crypt]

Look up snes ray tracing

on phone atm

[keen nacelle]

Did it melt?

[normal hawk]

No i mean control as in the Raytracing showcase game

[runic crypt]

no it was just a custom cart

[normal hawk]

I have a code for it on steam

[runic crypt]

and it had low polys

[keen nacelle]

Ohh lmao I didn't know that existed

[normal hawk]

It's a good game.

[keen nacelle]

What do you do in it?

[runic crypt]

im sure the hb dev was being careful

it was a mere tech demo and does not work on flashcarts

[normal hawk]

It's a 3rd person action game. I call it a showcase because it seemed designed to take advantage of Raytracing.

It's not really a showcase lol but it does show off Raytracing

[keen nacelle]

I'll have to check it out, I'll buy it though if I'm interested in it

Ty

[normal hawk]

Oh.

[keen nacelle]

Or I could buy you a game of similar value, I dont have paypal tho

[normal hawk]

I have like 2000 games on HumbleBundle. I give them away for free 🤷‍♂️ I'm not selling it to you lol.

[keen nacelle]

Oh jesus

What's humblebundle?

[livid idol]

Not as good as it used to be, that's what

[keen nacelle]

And I knew what you meant I just don't like getting given stuff normally

[normal hawk]

Charity website.

Each page is 20 codes lol

[keen nacelle]

Jesus

[livid idol]

You used to get tons of cool games for around $5 a bundle, but now it's mostly cruddy indy games

And the occasional name you recognize

[normal hawk]

Some of the bundles are good.

The build your own bundles are the best

[livid idol]

Like the star wars bundle they've had 4 times? Yeah that one is nice

[keen nacelle]

I have to be up for work in 4 hours but my insomnia said no to sleep

[normal hawk]

Nah the 2k build your own. When you can get all the borderlands and Bioshock games for like 10$

[livid idol]

Yeah that one is nice too, but again it's all games they've had before

[keen nacelle]

I might have to check that out

[normal hawk]

True

[keen nacelle]

You guys ever seen ranch simulator on there?

[livid idol]

Nope

[keen nacelle]

Ive been wanting to get it for me and my bf for a while but it's 25$ on steam

[livid idol]

Farm sim yes

[keen nacelle]

20$ on g2a

Nah ranch sim is much funnier

Check in smii7ys videos on it if you want to see what it's like

[normal hawk]

No

[livid idol]

But can you plow the entire map in 3 seconds just by spinning?

[keen nacelle]

Nah its not like that

Not a farming game necessarily

Idk how to explain it

Well it is

But not the same way as farming Sim is

[normal hawk]

I have codes for bee, cultist, PC building, job, surgeon, and such.

[livid idol]

Like harvest moon?

[keen nacelle]

Idk what that is

It's like a game as how satire films are films

[livid idol]

Lol you run a ranch of course

[keen nacelle]

If that makes sense

[normal hawk]

Slime rancher is the best ranch game 🤷‍♂️

[livid idol]

Well, it's fun at least

[keen nacelle]

Bruh I had slime rancher on epic from when it was free and they removed it a little while back, I was planning on playing it the week after they did

[faint steeple]

Remove removed it? Like if you had it you can’t play it anymore?

[keen nacelle]

As far as I could tell

It's been a while since I checked

[faint steeple]

Ah

[crisp ocean]

Slime rancher was

Eh

I played it for a couple hours and got bored

[mild ruin]

Hello everyone, I'm new here, my name is Josh.

So I have a question. I have a radeon rx 550 currently, and I was wondering what would be the best upgrade for me for gaming, a rx 580 8GB or a rx 5500xt oc 4GB?

[vital oriole]

What's your current specs of other parts?

[mild ruin]

MSI B450-A Pro Max motherboard, ryzen 5 3600 cpu, 16 GB ram

windows 10 home

20H2

anything else?

[vital oriole]

hm

Well those cards are pretty inflated in price

[mild ruin]

they're the cheapest i could find

less than $500 is pretty good these days

[heady turtle]

You looking used or new?

[mild ruin]

new

[vital oriole]

ehhh

[heady turtle]

Don't

[vital oriole]

just get 6600xt from shuffle

[heady turtle]

They've been out of production for years

[mild ruin]

what's shuffle?

[vital oriole]

newegg shuffle

[heady turtle]

@mild ruin i would suggest reading

[vital oriole]

it puts you at a chance to buy products they offer in that in your choice

[mild ruin]

alright. i'll check it out. thanks guys

[heady turtle]

Np

Other options are used ofc

[magic wing]

Pato im pretty sure founders editions arent gonna drop anymore

Could be wrong tho

@heady turtle

[heady turtle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Don't see why not?

[magic wing]

Nvidia no makey

I heard something like that

[heady turtle]

:o

Rood

[magic wing]

I could be wrong but werf checking

[heady turtle]

Ehh i mean #notmyproblem 😎

[magic wing]

Lmao

Nice

[heady turtle]

Nah that would suck tho

I mean they already a myth but

[magic wing]

Less cards from nvidia directly means more go to aibs

Number of cards remains constant

[heady turtle]

Aye but price

[unreal gale]

Looking at pricing for the shuffle and other sources with occasional availability, I gotta say that EVGA is again showing why they are the cream of the crop for nvidia AIB partners.

Still a markup, but not nearly as much as the other manufacturers are charging.

[dreamy dragon]

Crunch®#5299 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sweet arch]

I believe it is not fair to be paying the same retail price for cards that are non LHR as this new LHR version.
If we are paying the same then allow the cards to perform at anything the owner wants to do with them. If your limiting the usage, then the price should reflect that and should be cheaper.

[spiral umbra]

No because they are made for gaming not mining

[frozen locust]

anyone know if a 1080ti would be worth it in the long run? Found a few on facebook marketplace for not too expensive

[toxic sinew]

how much?

Still a pretty good card

[frozen locust]

$700 CAD

[heady turtle]

Not worth 700 cad

[frozen locust]

ah

[pallid coyote]

Oof, you minus well buy a newer gen GPU for that price. 1080 ti's are nice but not worth that much

[runic crypt]

I am just waiting for my 1030 to arrive over to the US. Seems like it needs time, for sure. But I’m happy that I got something for a decent price.

115 USD after tax seems like a decent deal for a new 1030.

[dreamy dragon]

はたけカカシ#7187 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[covert kayak]

Who here tried NE shuffle for about 9 months? I do. Still no luck getting a card

[pallid coyote]

I have

Keep on trying, you'll get there

Just keep in mind that its you against 100K+ participants

[faint steeple]

@keen nacelle yeah Slime Rancher is gone, I used to have it on my epic games account but its not on my account anymore... I have gotten every free game every week for the past 2 years or so, so I know I had it

[dreamy dragon]

FURIOUS PHUCKBOi#1160 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rustic pulsar]

how much are you willing to spend, what do you have now, and are you willing to buy used

[lone pond]

ive been waiting since november to get a 3080 LOL

[solemn panther]

I still don't have a 3080. Sad

Since October

[heady turtle]

You got an 80 ti

[solemn panther]

Exactly

Lmao

Lost faith in the shuffle a long time ago

[hot folio]

Is $250 a good price to sell an 8gb RX480?

[normal hawk]

Lol I was watching this earlier how's it open box now https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-zt-a30810f-10p/p/N82E16814500515R

Someone at the warehouse must be playing 🤣

[lone pond]

im either trying to get a 3080 or a 3080ti

ive lost faith in the shuffle

[pallid coyote]

You won't get it right away, lots of people are always jumping on it

[crisp ocean]

Go to micro center

[proper laurel]

Has anybody gotten the zotac GeForce gtx 1660 super? I found one on Amazon for less then 500. If anyone has gotten this one, would you recommend it coming from a GeForce gtx 970? Browsing around for options since everything is practical out of stock or is being price gouged online.

[lone pond]

i went, they had 2 3080ti ventus cards

[normal hawk]

Sold by Newegg

[lone pond]

out of stock for me

and i dont wanna spend at $1700 for a zotac

[normal hawk]

Someone bought it like a little bit ago

[hot folio]

How much does Zotac sell 3080s for?

[livid idol]

Zotac is scalping their own cards. They have 3060 ti for $750, 3070 ti for $1000, 3080 for $1400, 3080 ti for $1800...

And 3090 for $2800

[normal hawk]

Pny as well? 🤔

https://www.newegg.com/pny-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-vcg3080t12tfxppb/p/N82E16814133823

2000$

Ya know, i feel like the market is getting worse 🤣

[vital pivot]

So I gotta grab some fans. Does anyone have any current Newegg promo codes

[keen nacelle]

I've seen worse

It's a mining card

I'll never feel bad about scalping miners

They helped cause this market, as well as are making money off the card

[pallid coyote]

This. Give them a taste of their own medicine (so to speak)

[keen nacelle]

Once saw a miner selling two 3060 tis and buying cards in the same oost

[pallid coyote]

Yup, and will then turn around and resell the card for more than its worth

[keen nacelle]

Offering hundreds less than market price, and selling his 3060 tis above market price

Disgusting

I believe it was 1100 per 3060 ti to just them

[pallid coyote]

I don't have a problem with miners, I just have a problem with those that behave that way.

[keen nacelle]

He offered 825 per 3060 ti, 950 per 3070, and 1300 for 3080

In like march

While selling 3060 tis at 1100

Absolutely disgusting

[pallid coyote]

Those are the ones that causes all of these problems. Bottom feeders

[vital pivot]

Well. To be honest it’s also the buyers.

[hollow heath]

Does the RX 6700 XT have coil whine

[vital pivot]

The GPu manufactures and AIB saw us willing to pay these prices and kept them artificially high.

All video cards have coil whine to a degree.

[cerulean rover]

Coil whine on GPU is more of a luck thing in terms of how bad it gets and if you'll get/notice it

not exactly well documented or tested or anything

[vital pivot]

Some AIBS will even warranty for coil whine.

[hollow heath]

Oh ok

[heady turtle]

I think that's a fair price for both parties atm

[dreamy dragon]

JJDarko#1336 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[normal hawk]

ASRock phantom gaming or XFX speedster 6900xt?

[heady turtle]

Same price? Xfx

[normal hawk]

Figured lol

The phantom gaming is open box. Only reason why I asked. Its usually more

[pallid coyote]

This

[heady turtle]

Ahh yeah speedster is kinda like a tuf or something giving a bit of an Nvidia equivalent

[dreamy dragon]

Warraich#6158 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[crisp ocean]

But tuf is actually pretty decent

[heady turtle]

Yup so is speedster

[crisp ocean]

I read this wrong

I thought you were saying the asrock was comparable

[heady turtle]

Ahhh

[twilit magnet]

I love how people have come to rely on replies so much that they reply to the previous message that they are obviously referencing. 🤣

[heady turtle]

I mean it's easy, has an auto ping feature and on mobile you can't get the url for the message

[pallid coyote]

This

[vital oriole]

xfx has wack fan curve tho

gotta fix it later

but eh afterburner should fix it just fine

but stock? it's so confusing

as in how vbios acts

[heady turtle]

Basically all companies do

[vital oriole]

xfx seems to mess it up pretty badly lately

[heady turtle]

Ahh

[vital oriole]

It's both annoying and not optimal lel

Ramps up and down so randomly

[heady turtle]

Oof

[dreamy dragon]

omar seghaier#4865 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[crisp ocean]

Replies are a way to ping someone without pinging someone

Plus it gives context to what you are tagging them for

[pallid coyote]

Especially since the chat gets quite busy at times

[finite oak]

What is a good price for a used 1070ti?

[heady turtle]

To buy for or to sell for xD

[finite oak]

Buy one of my friend is selling one and I have a full computer but the gpu

[heady turtle]

If friend would do 180ish mb

[finite oak]

If not friend

?

[cerulean rover]

If not friend, go away from them

[finite oak]

Lol

[heady turtle]

Mb like 250 idk depends how good the friend is xD

[lone pond]

What is the best GPU for 1080p gaming?

[heady turtle]

3090 xD

[lone pond]

Lol

Fr tho

[heady turtle]

What budget you have

Cuz 3090 or 6900xt is the best soo

[lone pond]

200-400

[feral thistle]

bruh

pato

did u really just offer him a 3090

[lone pond]

😂

[feral thistle]

bro just get a 3060

or a 20s series card

good for 1080p

[lone pond]

Ok thanks

[feral thistle]

just dont get scalped

for 3060 prices like i did

[heady turtle]

They asked for the best xD

[feral thistle]

bruh xd

[heady turtle]

A 3060/6600xt or if really lucky a 3060 ti

[lone pond]

does the 2060 and the 3060 have a a big difference when it comes to performance?

[heady turtle]

Ye

[feral thistle]

yeah

[lone pond]

Ofc

[feral thistle]

yeah it does

[heady turtle]

2060 super to 3060 Isn't much tho

[feral thistle]

isnt the 3060 in the middle btween 2070 and 2080

[heady turtle]

Around 2070

[feral thistle]

like performance wise

[heady turtle]

But 2060 super is also around 2070

[feral thistle]

its better than 2070 though right

[lone pond]

How much is the 2060 and/or 2060 super

And how much should I pay for the 6600xt

[heady turtle]

Pretty close

[feral thistle]

pretty much the same

[heady turtle]

Depends, none of the 20 series cards are still in production so you gotta go used

[feral thistle]

my friend hooked me up with a free 2080 right when i was about to buy this 3060

[lone pond]

Sad

[heady turtle]

Msrp is 380 but they tend to be going around 370-400

[heady turtle]

V nice

[lone pond]

Thanks

[heady turtle]

Np

[feral thistle]

in the future

are amd cards gonna be better than nvidias

[heady turtle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

I mean they trade blows atm so who knows

[vital oriole]

but all i know is that

both are gonna be even more power hogs than current gen

[heady turtle]

Seems to be like that for a lot of things lol

[vital oriole]

ye

[heady turtle]

New CPUs, ddr5 etc

Although the mcm design looks promising for amd next gen

[vital oriole]

mhm

but nvidia's ada chips could be good enough

[heady turtle]

Yeah we shall see a bit closer atm tho

[vital oriole]

intel is gonna come out by 2022 with their xe-hpg

the intel arc series

i wanna see those too

[heady turtle]

Even though they just announced it ;-;

[vital oriole]

yeeeeah

[heady turtle]

I'm a tad behind on the news

Sad tho

[vital oriole]

they gonna first roll out to laptops

seen leaks

[heady turtle]

We know what quarter of the year it coming?