graphics-cards

[crisp ocean]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N3080AORUSX-WB-10GD-rev-10#kf

whats a good price for this gpu

[vital pivot]

So my brother upgraded his 2080ti to the 3080ti

Before

After

[lethal pawn]

https://www.newegg.com/gpvhoso-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-gtx-1050-ti-4g/p/1FT-00DJ-00003?Item=9SIATMXFAM0571&Description=gpu&cm_re=gpu-_-9SIATMXFAM0571-_-Product&cm_sp=SP-_-618281-_-0-_-6-_-9SIATMXFAM0571-_-gpu-_-gpu-_-14 guys look at this new gpu that im buying 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶

[hot folio]

Please tell me you ain’t actually buying that

[lethal pawn]

lmao no

[hot folio]

A 1050 ti is NOT worth $300 at all

Oh thank god

[lethal pawn]

and it doesnt pump out 8k either

[hot folio]

No card does lmao

[final blade]

3080 and 3090 do

[hot folio]

Nope

4K yes, 8K nope

[dreamy dragon]

ayeHugo#6436 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[full ferry]

oops

[late haven]

is there gonna be a liquid cooled 3070 coming soon from evga?

[full ferry]

is the aorus xtreme 3080 ti bad?
was looking to trade for a 3070 with some guy and he said that no one wants these, they're garbage, and they were bricks
not sure if he was being an a_hole or if it is true?

[late haven]

ive heard that gigabyte 3000 series cards crash a lot

i could be wrong tho

[full ferry]

hmm. hopefully someone else knows

[late haven]

how does the 3080 ti take less power than the 3080?

[zenith iris]

what’s the difference between a 3070 ti and a 3080

[green harness]

Performance

[keen nacelle]

A guys selling a 460 for 10$ lowkey want it just because

[fossil crow]

What is this? I booted up my pc and this popped up?

[rustic pulsar]

did u just plug in a razor keyboard

or razer product

[fossil crow]

I have a sky tech gaming keyboard and mouse

But it was already hooked up

[rustic pulsar]

then idk, just to be safe see if u can download it from the razer website

[fossil crow]

I didn’t touch it. My computer needed an update anyway and it disappeared after I booted back up if it was important it would have popped back up I reckon

[heady turtle]

Cheaper than a 710 so not bad tbf

[keen nacelle]

dont need it at all itd just be cool to have

[heady turtle]

If it's a prebuilt it may have came with razer synapse installed

[heady turtle]

Well yeah but having a spare working card is no harm especially with ryzen cpu, as no integrated graphics

Troubleshooting etc

[lone pond]

For razer products, if you didn't buy any razer gear you can uninstall that

[lone pond]

Are the white strix 3090 even real

[livid idol]

"Real" as in it exists somewhere or "real" as in you can buy it?

[rustic pulsar]

🔥 BURN IT TO THE GROUND🔥

[lone pond]

Real as in Being able to find and purchase it at its Inflated MSRP and not for 3 grand from scalpers “real”

[livid idol]

Then no it's a unicorn

[lone pond]

How long you think this whole scalper situations gonna last

I don’t wanna but I’m gonna cave in soon

[livid idol]

Honest answer? They're not going anywhere any time soon.
The optimist in me wants to say 6-9 months or so.

[stone obsidian]

what would be the best GTX card?

is it the 1660?

[livid idol]

1080 ti

Unless you want to talk Titan

[stone obsidian]

titan?

[magic wing]

Uhh falcie isnt the 1080ti a titan?

[livid idol]

No

[magic wing]

It isnt?!

[livid idol]

Nope. You'll never see Titan and GTX 1080 ti in the same model.

[stone obsidian]

so the 1080ti is better than the 1660 super?

[livid idol]

Very much so, yes

The Titan X and XP were the same generation

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-super-vs-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti/intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz-vs-intel-core-i7-7700k-4-20ghz/

[stone obsidian]

is it worth getting a 2060?

ive come to terms not getting a 30 for a while now tbh

im not in a rush

[livid idol]

"Worth it" comes down to prices

What price can you get each at?

2060 is about 10-15% better than 1660 super, and I wouldn't pay that much more for it.

[stone obsidian]

so I guess my question is should I get a EVGA branded one?

[livid idol]

At what price? If it's $400+ no, that's above original retail for the 2060

[stone obsidian]

is it worth getting a prebuilt?

[livid idol]

It can be the easiest way to get a 30 series, and anything that isn't up to par can usually be swapped out.

[stone obsidian]

where do you recommend going for a prebuilt?

[livid idol]

We'll always tell you if it's worth it if you post a link and ask here

[magic wing]

OH i see what you are talking about

[stone obsidian]

I mean I heard some companies you shouldnt order from

I hear mixed things about best buy and websites like ibuypower

[magic wing]

dell

never buy dell

[stone obsidian]

lol

I know that much

[magic wing]

no pc>dell pc

[livid idol]

ABS is halfway decent, Newegg house brand and got the GN "It's better than Dell!" award

[stone obsidian]

abs being a website?

[magic wing]

newegg brand

[livid idol]

You'll find it on the Newegg website

[stone obsidian]

oh ok

[livid idol]

What's your budget? I can pick out a couple options in your range

[stone obsidian]

well when I was making one it was 3k but if I can get a good prebuilt for under 2k or so Id be happy

I have extra RAM I bought a while ago too

[magic wing]

speed of ram?

and is it ddr4

[stone obsidian]

yeah and 3600

preferably something with a ryzen 7 or higher

Im mainly wanting an AMD chip

[livid idol]

Ryzen 5 5600X is plenty for just gaming, trust me (and the hundreds of benchmarks available)

[stone obsidian]

well im also looking for VR and streaming

not necessarily streaming VR at the same time but being able to do them both in general

if it can stream VR then that would be dope but it doesnt have to

[livid idol]

Yo 2k is a great budget

That's all in stock as of this moment

[stone obsidian]

how do I find it?

[livid idol]

https://buildredux.com/pages/build-your-pc

You can start with the "best" preset and select the 5600X

Remove the OS because you don't need to spend that much on Windows

[stone obsidian]

how much should I spend?

[livid idol]

$5-15

[stone obsidian]

I heard gray keys are a gamble

[livid idol]

I've never had a problem

Rarely heard of problems, and the sellers usually fix it

[stone obsidian]

oh ok thats cool

[livid idol]

Look for good rep sellers on ebay

[stone obsidian]

are there other vendors that are trustworthy? ebay always comes off shady

[livid idol]

I'd link you one but wegg gets kinda mad if I do

Ebay is fine, just look for someone with around 99%+ rating and at least 100+ ratings. You can usually spot a scam if you look at the profile. Active sellers are good.

[stone obsidian]

oh ok thats good to know

so that PC has a ryzen 5. is that going to be good enough for VR and streaming?

[livid idol]

They're VERY strict on who they allow to sell on their platform. If you're accused of anything shady you get disabled, enough bad ratings you get banned.

Yes the 5600X is a fantastic CPU

[stone obsidian]

ok cool

[mighty island]

does anyone here have a 30 series gpu and ANY asrock motherboard

[livid idol]

12 threads is going to be plenty for the forseeable future, unless you do heavily multithreaded stuff and multitasking

[stone obsidian]

what about the ryzen 7 3700x?

[livid idol]

That has more cores BUT each core is slower. Games rely more on single thread speeds.

[stone obsidian]

ok cool

I got approved for a 2k budget so that works great!

finally I can get a desktop lol

[livid idol]

Awesome! I know build redux has a pretty decent rep too so you shouldn't have any problems they can't fix easily.

[stone obsidian]

ive been using a 1050ti laptop which isnt bad but obviously I need more power for what I want

im excited

now how long does it usually take to arrive?

nevermind I found it lol

[livid idol]

Yeah it varies but they don't sell stock they don't have, unlike other sites

[stone obsidian]

yeah thats a really cool thing

[livid idol]

For the record here's the jump in performance you can expect https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-mobile-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070/intel-core-i7-6700k-4-00ghz-vs-intel-core-i9-10900k

+400% lol

[stone obsidian]

oh damn lol

so the MB it comes with is good then?

[livid idol]

Yeah it'll be good enough. The 5600X is surprisingly efficient, at a 65W tdp, so it's easy for most boards to run anyway.

You'll even be able to overclock it. That happens to be the same cooler I use for my 5800X heavily overclocked.

[stone obsidian]

is there a spec sheet for how many ports it comes with?

like USB, C, etc

[livid idol]

They use what they have available, so it's different boards each time they build. They're all mainstream boards though, none of that custom BS.

[stone obsidian]

oh ok cool

[keen nacelle]

I'm running an asrock b550m ac/itx with my 3060 ti

[mighty island]

have you disabled CSM in BIOS? if so, are you able to reboot into bios and still use it uninterrupted?

[keen nacelle]

Imma be honest

I have no clue what that means I'm not too bright when it comes to bios

I haven't messed with bios too much

[mighty island]

i see. thanks for your time

[keen nacelle]

Other than ram speeds, boot, and PBO

Sorry

[mighty island]

i am investigating what appears to be an incompatibility between asrock motherboards and rtx 3000

[keen nacelle]

That's weird

Mine has been working fine since I got the mobo in

[mighty island]

i am almost done with my detailed writeup so i'll link it when i'm done instead of getting into too much detail here

[keen nacelle]

Well other than be being an idiot and mixing ram and corrupted my windows

But yknow

[mighty island]

i am also going to contact asrock directly

[keen nacelle]

Yeah good luck

I've heard they're pretty good about that

[mighty island]

would you like me to dm you the writeup?

[keen nacelle]

Sure

[magic wing]

me too

[stone obsidian]

@livid idol just realized they dont ship to ohio. How could I get around that?

[livid idol]

I've never heard that. Maybe contact their support.

[stone obsidian]

yeah I messaged them to see

but I could rent a PO box in Michigan but to do that it would be $160 for 3 months

they ship to MI

[fossil crow]

It disappeared after an unrelated update so hopefully it didn’t install itself

[livid idol]

A PO box would be tricky. The PC is too big to fit in there lol.

[stone obsidian]

the biggest I can get is a 12inch by 22inch

which seems big enough for he box

so I might have to get the RTX 3060 12GB is that much of a drop from the 3070?

[livid idol]

Yes that's a large drop

I'd wait and see what support says

[south walrus]

3070 is about 45% faster at 1440p

[stone obsidian]

oh ok

main reason being is its just barely over 2k so unless I can make a downpayment Id have to find another way

is the 3060 still an overall good GPU that can do the things I need it to?

[livid idol]

It's good enough for 1440p medium in most games, and streaming is no issue with nvenc onboard

[stone obsidian]

hows about VR?

[south walrus]

no problem

[stone obsidian]

can it do both at the same time?

[livid idol]

Not at max settings but yeah

[stone obsidian]

yeah max settings im not worried about tbh

I dont really do that now lol

[south walrus]

max settings is around 90fps average according to tpu

iirc

85

[stone obsidian]

I normally limit my fps to 60 anyways so its no biggie

[south walrus]

then you can do max settings in most things

[thick cliff]

I am trying to build a VR-ready system...My goal is 75fps at max settings with VR...But the only games where I would actually be able to use VR are Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, and X Rebirth. With X Rebirth, I already get 110+ frames per second on max settings without VR. Deus Ex Mankind Divided, I get about 59fps on the High Quality preset without VR and with Shadow of the Tomb Raider, I get 72fps on the Highest preset without VR

[vestal panther]

im tinking of getin a gtx 1070 cuz i have a budget and thb idk if its worth it

[keen nacelle]

Budget for the whole pc?

[vestal panther]

like ya

[keen nacelle]

No like

What's your budget

[vestal panther]

like 2k

[keen nacelle]

Wait why tf would you get a 1070 then?

My friend built a whole pc with a 3080 and 5800x for like 1700. It'd be hard to do that but you can atleast get a 3070

[vestal panther]

i have to save for a mouse keybourd and a new monitor

so ya

[keen nacelle]

That still leaves a lot for the pc

No reason to get that gpu

[vestal panther]

oh and one more ting

im in europe

so gpus are over the roof

[keen nacelle]

Then what currency is 2000?

[vestal panther]

2k BGN

[keen nacelle]

Oh that makes more sense

I thought freedom units

Then yeah a 1070/980 ti/1660s or ti would prolly be your best bet

[vestal panther]

i have a rig ready to buy but the gpu is crap

[keen nacelle]

How much do you have to spend on the gpu?

And what's your current rig?

[vestal panther]

[Not a Premade]

A ryzen 3 3200g 16gb ram rx550

ITS BAD

[keen nacelle]

Oh one sec

[vestal panther]

the pc is 1400 + 500

the gpu is 500

[keen nacelle]

What's the psu in your pc?

If you know

[vestal panther]

wait

450

[keen nacelle]

Bc the 3200g isn't that bad, you could probably throw a 1070 in there and be fine or a similar performing gpu

Ah

[vestal panther]

bronze

[keen nacelle]

That's probably too low then

[vestal panther]

my gpu is bad tho

[keen nacelle]

Yeah I was talking about replacing the gpu in it

Vega 8 graphics = gt 1030

Doesn't rhe 550 perform the same?

[vestal panther]

its a rx550 2 gig

[keen nacelle]

Yeah

[vestal panther]

so when im editing my pc crashes ALOT

[keen nacelle]

I think your integrated is as powerful as your dedicated

[vestal panther]

and when im trying to play like intence games my GPU is like nah cuh im out

[keen nacelle]

Anyways, what about replacing the psu and gpu in your current pc?

Yeah I had the gt 1030, slightly better

Best I could run was 50fps on bo4 at 1050p

[vestal panther]

and im getin into streamin

if u want i can tell u the whole pc config

[keen nacelle]

So would you be fine with just upgrading your psu and gpu?

Whats the mobo?

Don't think I'll need anything else spec wise

I dont see a reason to make a whole new build with what your current pc is, hell you could probably replace your cpu, gpu, and psu, and get a better gpu than you would if you built a whole new one

But no reason to pair anything over a 1660 ti with a 3200g imo

[normal hawk]

What's your budget @vestal panther

[keen nacelle]

1200 usd, 2k bgn

[vestal panther]

2k bgn

can i send a link in here of a yt vid?

[normal hawk]

What computer stores are in Bulgaria?

[vestal panther]

desktop.bg

[keen nacelle]

I dont think so, you have to talk more before you can link things (until your name isn't grey)

[vestal panther]

tbh i dont really need to send it i was just trying to show someting

[normal hawk]

Altech as well?

[vestal panther]

yayaa

and one more ting that im trying to do whit this pc is making montages of nfs payback/nfs heat/minecraft and so on

the last video that i made was on my ps4 and i dont really wana use it anymore

[keen nacelle]

Altech gpu prices are insane

[vestal panther]

and the reccording is 720p 30fps

[keen nacelle]

What's a 1660 ti going for on ebay in Bulgaria rn?

[vestal panther]

1k

flat

[keen nacelle]

Holy

Yeah altech is above ebay prices for straight up cards

[normal hawk]

https://desktop.bg/grigs-grigs_vip-grigs_vip_venom_ed_v2

[vestal panther]

this is the one that im going for

[normal hawk]

You can get a 3600 + 3060 for just over 2000bgn. But only 8gb of ram, if you drop down to a 2060 you keep Nvenc and you can get 16gb's of ram

[keen nacelle]

Nah go with the 3060 and just put your ram into it

Much better priced

[vestal panther]

can the 1600AF handle a 3060 tho

[keen nacelle]

Good point

[vestal panther]

like botle necking

[keen nacelle]

Oh wait nk

[normal hawk]

You'd be CPU limited depending on the games you stream

[keen nacelle]

Change it to 3600

3600 is more than enough for a 3060

[vestal panther]

we can all aggre the case looks ugly

[normal hawk]

3600 + 3060 with the 8gb ram option is just over your current budget at 2108 bgn but it'd definitely be worth it

The case doesn't matter if you're having fun

[keen nacelle]

Personally with the market I wouldn't care about the case

[vestal panther]

let me send some pics

[keen nacelle]

That pc will be your best bet

Yeah I'd say leave the default specs other than the cpu and gpu, and then take the ram and storage from your current pc and put it in that one

[vestal panther]

#build-pics

in 2 secs

ok i just sent it

its compressing

@keen nacelle @normal hawk #build-pics

its bad

[normal hawk]

I wouldn't say it's bad. Just not good for your needs

[vestal panther]

tbh the card is bad but the cpu is good

[normal hawk]

If you have a younger sibling or cousin you could give them that PC when you get your new one and it'd be fine.

[vestal panther]

im one boy sadly

[normal hawk]

Ye, the 550 is really low quality.

[vestal panther]

im tinking of geting a ryzen 7 second gen

[normal hawk]

3200g is a decent entry level one

[vestal panther]

i tink it was the 3700x

[normal hawk]

2700x is 2nd gen Ryzen. Unless you mean "Zen 2"

[vestal panther]

ya zen 2

[normal hawk]

3700x is good ye.

[vestal panther]

does zen 2 need a like difrent slot tipe for the motherboard or is it still am4

[normal hawk]

It's AM4, do you know what motherboard you have?

[vestal panther]

cuz i didnt google it

the motherboard that im geting whit the pc that u linked me

u can check

[normal hawk]

Oh, I'd keep the 3600.

[vestal panther]

ya tbh

ill keep it

i love the ryzen 7 chips

im in love whit them

and plus i can run a vm

[normal hawk]

Lol, they are nice yeah. I like mine although in my current situation, i don't need it and I would have been better off with a 3600.

Cause temps 😬

[vestal panther]

sheesh

oh wait

im regular now

[normal hawk]

Nice

[vestal panther]

lets goooooooo

and the number 7 😩

lol

someones selling paypal account

WHAT

anyway i wana play beamng too and my pc can play it but at 30 to 20 fps

[normal hawk]

3600 and a 3060 should run it fairly well

[vestal panther]

ya

and gta 5

oh boy

cant wait for the new update

😄

anyway again

@normal hawk what spects are you runnin

[normal hawk]

I have a Ryzen 7 3700x and an RTX 2070 super currently.

[vestal panther]

nice

[late haven]

can cosmetic damage cause artifacts on a gpu or is it something else

[heady turtle]

Nope

That's just a bit of plastic housing

[late haven]

what about chips on the pcb

theres a light scratch on it

it exposed the copper

i have no idea how this works

i want to rma it but im afraid theyll reject it

[heady turtle]

Can you send a pic?

[heady turtle]

Looks fine

[late haven]

alright

ill just debate with asus support then

[heady turtle]

Should be anyway

Okay lol

[keen nacelle]

Currently arguing with someone who wants to buy a pc with a 1650 and 3100 for 1300$

[rustic pulsar]

Uhh, they can get a 2060 pc for around 1100 lol

Is 3080ti actually better then the 3090 for gaming, I just watched a comparision and the 3090 was regularly +1-5 FPS

[hot folio]

In some games the 3080ti out performs the 3090

[keen nacelle]

They can get a pc with a 3060 for 1200 not counting tax lmao

[rustic pulsar]

true lol

[keen nacelle]

Some people just don't like to listen to logic and rather give money to a youtuber who doesn't need any more

And the YouTuber is screwing them over anyways lmao

That pc should cost maybe 700 even in this market

[rustic pulsar]

Make them watch a comparasin vid on 3060 vs 1650

[keen nacelle]

I showed them links

Sorry 1200 not 1300

[rustic pulsar]

but still, 1650 pc for 1200, HAHAHAHAH

[keen nacelle]

Still ridiculously priced

[fossil talon]

1650 bruh

Yeah sincerely overpriced

[keen nacelle]

I got my 3060 ti pc for the same price... well at first

Skytech screwed me and now it's cost over 1800 but that's another story

[rustic pulsar]

Just tell them they are being stubborn and are getting ripped off, offer them a decent prebuild suggestion, and leave

[keen nacelle]

Yeah I did

[fierce crypt]

What’s a a good ram kit 2x8 usd

[hot folio]

Crucial Ballistix

[steel bough]

G. Skill Trident Z Neo Ram

[hot folio]

Ehh it’s good if you spend the extra for Samsung B die and not Hynix

With Crucial Ballistix you’re almost guaranteed Rev E die

Which is really damn good

[fossil talon]

Overclocking glory

3600mhz to 4400mhz easy

[dreamy dragon]

krackerbolt#0665 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[keen nacelle]

What's the best gpu you'd pair with a 3600?

At 1080p

[spare relic]

idk

anything

[keen nacelle]

Wha?

[spare relic]

yea

no cap

if I had it I'd use it

[thick cliff]

I have the 3600...For gaming, I have yet to find any game that can max it out

[hot folio]

Only game that maxed out my 6700k was a heavily modded Minecraft

[keen nacelle]

That's crazy

[hot folio]

Then again I mostly play at 4K 75hz

[spare relic]

yea your gpu is gonna bear the brunt lol

[keen nacelle]

Yeah im at 1080p

[hot folio]

4K is honestly so nice lol

[spare relic]

of course it is

you have a 3090

[keen nacelle]

I won a 4k monitor a while back but I gave it to my dad since he needed a bigger monitor for work

[spare relic]

nice

[keen nacelle]

60hz, woulda been nice to change out my 1050p 60hz monitor though

[spare relic]

I'm using a viewsonic 1050p

[keen nacelle]

I've got the widest variety lmao

Aoc 165hz 1080p

Dell 75hz 1440p

And a lenovo 1050p 60hz

[spare relic]

gonna get some 1080ps tomorrow

[keen nacelle]

You car about used?

Care*

[spare relic]

no

I'm getting one HP and one onion

bothused

[keen nacelle]

If you have a reddit account with a decent but of karma check out r/hardwareswap

Bit* I cannot type

[heady turtle]

3070

[spare relic]

sorry I don't farm internet points

[keen nacelle]

That's what I was thinking

[spare relic]

/j

[keen nacelle]

I regret that I used to

[hot folio]

Lmao I use my 6800xt for 4K gaming lol. 3090 is only for work and RT

[heady turtle]

Csgo, overwatch, Minecraft, any cpu bound game will

[keen nacelle]

I literally had an account with 10k karma. Didn't farm for it but the account was only 2 years old... I used to have no life

Who am I kidding I still don't

[spare relic]

6800xt is nice too

[hot folio]

It really is

[keen nacelle]

That account got permanently suspended because of a subs stupid rules

But yknow

Still got my alt with 1.5k karma from a single comment lmfao

[spare relic]

f

[hot folio]

Might not handle RT as well as Nvidia cards but it can still do it at 4K 60fps

[spare relic]

opengl either

I hear amd cards are bad with opengl?

idk how they perform with it tbh

[keen nacelle]

I have nearly 18k karma over three accounts... I really had no life huh

[hot folio]

I don’t really play an OpenGL based games so I couldn’t tell you

[keen nacelle]

Now I can't go on reddit without getting called a slur so i tend to stay away from it lmfao

[hot folio]

Well the only ones I play aren’t really that demanding

5D chess

[spare relic]

[hot folio]

Oh and Arma 3

[keen nacelle]

Mc is surprisingly cpu intensive

[spare relic]

I have exactly 24 karma

[keen nacelle]

I cant run mc at 60fps consistent on my old laptop with a 4030u

[hot folio]

Not really, it’s made in Java

I mean not really surprising

[keen nacelle]

I mean relating to what kind of game it is

And it uses more cpu than gpu

[hot folio]

Yeah

[keen nacelle]

I use like 30% of my gpu at 30 render on hypixel

[spare relic]

there's your problem

[keen nacelle]

Idk what % cpu

[hot folio]

It handles pretty well in what I just found out are OpenGL based games

[spare relic]

nice

[hot folio]

Like in borderlands 3 im getting around 70 FPS on 4K high-ultra

[keen nacelle]

Lmao yeah my pc was being fixed at a shop a while ago and I wanted to play mc with my bf and friends and couldn't, just unbearable after 300fps lmao

300 to 50

And like 6 render

[spare relic]

I play with shaders so it's 30 fps anyway

[keen nacelle]

I've actually never used a resource pack

Which I recently found out makes me insane, but I already knew that

[spare relic]

I never really touch any

I want to make some textures that work together with the default textures for projects that I do

but I have no idea how to make resource packs lol

[keen nacelle]

Getting just over 60mh/s at 121w

Single card ofcourse, just mine when I'm not using my pc

[keen nacelle]

@heady turtle is this good tempt wise? It gets up to 57 if my rooms hotter

[heady turtle]

still very hot for mining

i would try keep it in the 40s

mb try 80%, 70% while sleeping

[keen nacelle]

40s is basically impossible for me

Idk if its my case or what

I have the coolermastwr n400

Is 100 fan speed bad?

If I do max fan speed it's at 48

[heady turtle]

ehhh its just bad for noise, 50s are fine if you have a high ambient i guess

[keen nacelle]

It's actually pretty quiet

My room fan that's supposed to be silent is louder

I thought fan speeds would affect power usage

[heady turtle]

hardly

a tinnyyyy bit

[keen nacelle]

Not even 1w according to the miner

Do you think I could go any lower on power limit?

Without hurting anything

From 55

[heady turtle]

i mean you can try bring power down 5% but it will probs drop hashrate

[keen nacelle]

Alr thanks

[heady turtle]

np

[late grove]

WHY IS MY 3090 NOYT WORKING

HELP

[pulsar apex]

just

tell

ur

gpu

to

work

simple

[spare relic]

bruh

wrok

right now

gonna count to 3

[uncut barn]

There was a website someone linked me to previously to check on dimensions and stuff for gpu's. could someone please link me to it again?

the pc it was on went poof

just @ me please when you do, as imma be afk

pogchamp, think I found it

[spare relic]

techpowerup

[uncut barn]

ye thx

[uncut barn]

looking at 3080's (non ti), what would be a resonable gpu that is under 12.3inches long? ones that I've been looking at are as follows

1. Asus Turbo RTX 3080 v2 (10.6in x 4.4in)

2. Asus TUF RTX 3080 (v1 or v2) (11.8in x 5in)

3. EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid (11.4in x 5.4in)

4. MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3x OC LHR (12in x 4.7in)

My friend is going to ask for a quote on whatever gpu I decide on, so before looking at price too too much, i'd like to ensure that im picking a decent gpu

I wouldn't be looking at overclocking much/at all, and would primarily be using it for school and gaming.

[fossil talon]

FTW3 Hybrid hands down

If you have enough room for its radiator

Never consider Ventus, just don't

[uncut barn]

Yeah? My current gpu is a gtx 980 windforce. You able to tell me quick if its similar rad size to ftw hybrid

Not on pc rn

[fossil talon]

I think it's a 240mm

[uncut barn]

Sorry so thats 240mm height? If its 11.4inches long, and 5.4inches wide (deep, back, whatever)

[fossil talon]

Ah not sure of the width but it's length is 240mm

[uncut barn]

Ohh shoot I see what you mean

Damnit

I have a small case that wont work for that

A phanteks eclipse p300 or something like that

Already have evga aio front mounted

[fossil talon]

Oh nvm

I would get 3080 TUF then

Pretty tight fit

[uncut barn]

Is there any other similar gpus to the ftw3 hybrid?

Without a rad

Or a 120mm

[fossil talon]

FTW3 regular

But that's a thick shroud

[uncut barn]

Is it good sizewise?

Sorry whats a shroud?

[fossil talon]

Ah I don't remember the size of the FTW3 regular

It should be larger than the FTW3 Hybrid

[uncut barn]

And tbh as long as its smaller than 12.3inches its good. My gpu rn is flat against my rad fans 😂

[fossil talon]

So similar to TUF

[uncut barn]

Or you think i should look at selling my evga clc aio, getting a fuma 2 cpu cooler, and a ftw3 hybrid?

[fossil talon]

Hmmmm

Yea that should work for a 10900f

Kinda tight in the PC still but gives some front clearance

[uncut barn]

If I sold the aio and got the fan and ftw3?

[fossil talon]

Totally not sure

I have to check the P300 dimensions again

[uncut barn]

Sry im kinda 😵‍💫

This is the case https://www.amazon.ca/Phanteks-PH-EC300PTG_WT-Eclipse-Tempered-Glass/dp/B079QH3HJN

[fossil talon]

Yea should fit the GPU

Checking the cooler+GPU atm

[uncut barn]

It would be front mount gpu rad

My fans are all arctic pwm pst co’s i believe

And an asus b560m-a prime mobo

[fossil talon]

Yea I have no idea about the cooler

Maybe make a PCP and see if they show clearance issues

[uncut barn]

Ill see if I can figure that out haha

[fossil talon]

PcPartPicker

[uncut barn]

nope it won't fit

do you have anything different for cpu coolers you could recommend?

is there any major difference for normal users between the evga rtx 3080 ftw3 and ftw3 ultra?

[spare relic]

there is no major difference for normal users between any 3080

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[uncut barn]

just looked, my gpu is 312mm long

[spare relic]

mine is ehhhh

267 or so

should be

ref card

[uncut barn]

in that case should I be looking to get an ftw3 ultra or non ultra?

nvm im dumb

[spare relic]

[uncut barn]

as long as the length listed on the PCP site is less than the length of my current gpu, then it should fit fine, eh?

and all 3080's support ray tracing, correct?

[spare relic]

yea

[uncut barn]

Yeah to both questions? 😅

[spare relic]

yea

xd

[uncut barn]

Lol good stuff, thx

[vital oriole]

Any cards with RTX branding has RT

[dense flicker]

now whether or not they can actually run rt at playable fps is debatable :)

cough 2060 cough

[rustic pulsar]

2060 can run cyberpunk on rtx high settings dlss on quality at 60fps

1080p

[vital oriole]

DLSS isn't native tho

But that's not bad

[keen nacelle]

No way

It can do low to medium settings with medium ray tracing (which is the lowest rt option)

[slate inlet]

Gt 1030 vs gtx 750?

[spare relic]

750 ish

r7 370tbh

power hungry

but a bit better

[keen nacelle]

1030=750 ti

[keen nacelle]

That isn't right, 1030 is 750 tis equivelsnt

[slate inlet]

So what is the better?

[spare relic]

it's passmark

[keen nacelle]

1030 is better than 750, 750 ti is very slightly better than 1030

[keen nacelle]

Idk what to tell you

Wait backup

Like 3 months ago i googled this

It said 1030=750 ti

Now when I do

1030 is worse what the hell

Anyways

Ignore me

[spare relic]

I just use passmark and techpowerup for shorthand

not taking it seriously

but generally they're about right

[rustic pulsar]

I speak from experiance

[vital oriole]

He did mention DLSS so

And it helps greatly

Without DLSS that wouldn't be possible

[hot folio]

Yeah DLSS is really something

[magic wing]

dlss 1.0 was not great

[hot folio]

I remember 1.0

I was searching up what is DLSS back then because I didn’t see any differences

[magic wing]

dlss 1 was bad

[vital oriole]

when cp2077 came 2.0 was out tho

but ye 1.0 sucked

[hot folio]

How is AMD FSR?

[vital oriole]

It's not as good as nvidia for sure

I mean it's basically a filter, but better than lowering res I guess

But fsr wins over dlss in where it loses, which is hardware support

[hot folio]

Wdym it’s a filter?

[heady turtle]

It does the upscaling after already rendering the image or something

[vital oriole]

Yep, something like that

[hot folio]

Ahh ok

[vital oriole]

So it works with literally everything

Even a fermi card

[heady turtle]

Not having to be hardcoded for a game makes it easier to implement too

[hot folio]

What cards were fermi?

[magic wing]

better than dlss 1.0 imo

[vital oriole]

400-500 series Nvidia

[hot folio]

Ahh ok

[zenith iris]

best buy has a offline drop apparently

and people are lined up

[restive rose]

3060 or 5700XT?

For 1080P gaming

[hot folio]

3060, it’s easier to get

[karmic crag]

also it's more recent

[hot folio]

The 5700xt will be fine but the 3060 is better I think

Actually they are about on par with each other so I think the 3060 is the way to go because of DLSS and NVENC

[heady turtle]

Also rx 5000 series can have iffy drivers

[karmic crag]

rx cards in general have bad drivers

[heady turtle]

Nah 6000 series have fixed it and the 300/400/500 series are all good

[karmic crag]

500 series are all good

honestly i'd say there are still some driver bugs with some of amd's older cards

[heady turtle]

I've never had issues with my old r9 380 or my gfs rx 580

[hot folio]

I’ve never had issues with any AMD cards I had

But I skipped 5000 series

[hot folio]

What was exactly wrong with 5000 series drivers

[heady turtle]

Afaik they just went reliable sometimes, sometimes they were, sometimes they weren't, they got better after launch, they were pretty bad for crashing at launch iirc

[hot folio]

Ahh ok makes sense

Yeah I never had any of those problems with any of my cards

Only cards I had crashing problems with were my OG 20 series cards

[reef atlas]

could someone tell me MSRP for GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce RTX 3070 in CAD? incase im paying more then need be

[solemn panther]

Canada

Mmmm

[late haven]

thoughts?

i live right next to one of those stores

[lone pond]

Wdym thoughts

They are online only

and sold out everywhere on earth

If you can get it from a nearby store go for it

Assuming you're getting 3060ti

[late haven]

its not online

its in person

[brisk flame]

man cant read

dw

[late haven]

bruh

[lone pond]

\

[late haven]

im getting a 3080 ti

[brisk flame]

im getting whatever i can get my hands on lol

im heading out at 5

[lone pond]

good luck

[brisk flame]

getting to the line at 630

[late haven]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/clp-computers-tablets/nvidia-geforce-rtx-graphics-cards/pcmcat1619723841347.c?id=pcmcat1619723841347

yuh

imma be in my car at 6

[lone pond]

Less go

[late haven]

crap

they only have founders edition

[lone pond]

Yeah

[late haven]

nvm

[lone pond]

this tmrw though, yall camping out

[late haven]

ill just scalp em

they givin tickets at 7 30

if you have one you’re guaranteed

[late haven]

they letting people in at 8

[lone pond]

730am tmrw?

[late haven]

yes

tomorrow

[brisk flame]

yee, so im chillin in line for like 15 hrs

[lone pond]

Sheesh

[late haven]

yuh

[lone pond]

I guess

[brisk flame]

yee, people who arent using bots to get an FE card can actually get one now

[late haven]

wonder if theres a limit?

[brisk flame]

isnt it great

[brisk flame]

1 per person

[late haven]

dang

imma bring my family

[brisk flame]

yeah, best buy has exclusive rights to sell FE cards

[late haven]

omg

[brisk flame]

i would assume

[late haven]

bruh

[brisk flame]

bruh what

get a job

headass

man tryin to scam ppl for a living

cringe

[late haven]

im a teenager

[lone pond]

Who cares

[late haven]

gotta get that bag

[lone pond]

Get a job

[brisk flame]

Get a job

[lone pond]

work at mcdonalds

[late haven]

they stockin up to 90 per store

[lone pond]

And you're planning on hoarding them all

[late haven]

not rlly

[brisk flame]

you get your one like everyone else

[late haven]

only gettin 2 or 3

[brisk flame]

thats all there is to it

[lone pond]

Get this mans out of here

scalpers are 💩 humans

[toxic sinew]

🤓 "ill just scalp em"

[brisk flame]

🤡

the line of ppl will do that for them

[lone pond]

Don't tell him that

[brisk flame]

if a family showed up, i would be like, nope

[lone pond]

Get the bag later

[late haven]

im in the exact same situation yall are in

i obly need one

[toxic sinew]

"ill just scalp em"

[late haven]

gonna use the profit to buy a non founders edition one

[lone pond]

"I only need one" Headass you're buying 3

[brisk flame]

well he cant

so thats the end of it

[toxic sinew]

Lmfao exactly

[late haven]

yup

[toxic sinew]

In the end your just wasting more money really

[lone pond]

Waste of time and waste of effort

[brisk flame]

thats legit tho

[toxic sinew]

You would get more money by getting an actual job

[late haven]

i want like an evga hybrid or smthn

[lone pond]

You're going to be in crazy debt if you spend your money like this

[toxic sinew]

Most likely mommy and daddy are buying them anyways if you don't have a job already

[brisk flame]

if i get a 3080 ti, ill probs look to trade for a 3080 plus cash, or sell for enough to buy a scalped 3080

he cant tho

so

[late haven]

thats what im planning to do

[cosmic bluff]

So after buying the 3090 and having it shipped the friend that wants his pc decided to back off of it and so now i will have a 3090 with a 1000w psu spare and ill just slap that in my unit for the next few years

I ended up paying like $1600 for a Zotac 3090 Trinity OC 24G

[nova marlin]

Hey what's up guys

Will a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 480 4gb bottleneck with a r5 5600x?

[stone obsidian]

yeah so it turns out I might have to go with the 3060 ti instead of the 3070 since its just barely out of my budget of $2k

which sucks but a 3060ti is still a huge leap from my current 1050ti

[hot folio]

Lmao I’m also a teen, yet I’m actually working a fairly normal job and still getting bag. Scalping is a straight up 💩thing to do and you will get looked down upon and there’s a very large chance your reputation as a person will get ruined

[late haven]

yeah, as soon as i turn 15 im gonna get a job

[toxic sinew]

Lmfao your 14

[late haven]

gottta wait 2 more months

ill prolly work at a Target or smthn

heard those pay well

[heady turtle]

Yes it will somewhat but it's fine especially for these times

[rustic pulsar]

if u can get a job in somewhat of a related thing you want to do as an adult

[late haven]

how am i supposed to do that

im only gonna be workin part time

[keen nacelle]

I'm 15. I made 300 last week

[late haven]

well im 14

gotta wait 2 more months alr

[keen nacelle]

You have to be 16 to get a proper job in my state. It's under the table

[rustic pulsar]

I'm 16, doing genetic research at Cornell

[late haven]

still cant drive also

gotta work local

[keen nacelle]

Neither can i

[hot folio]

I’ve been working jobs since 14 and boy has it changed me

[late haven]

has it affected school?

[hot folio]

Ages 14 and 15 worked as a camp counselor, 16 worked at McDonald’s, 17 working part time at a bagel shop, McDonald’s and taking clients from my Dad’s lazy ass

[hot folio]

If anything the discipline helped boost my grades

Went from a 94 average to about a 98-99

[late haven]

how much do yall get paid by the hour?

i heard that you also had to pay a ton of income tax

like mowing the neighbors lawn or smthn?

[hot folio]

Bagel shop=14/hr, mcdonalds=16/hr,
CAD (dad’s clients I “steal”) 1000-12000 depending on the client and the job

[keen nacelle]

im working for someone who does home repairs, 10$ an hour under the table, which means it doesnt get taxed

its only a summer job but it pays nicely

[hot folio]

Yeah that’s what my camp counselor jobs looked like

[keen nacelle]

work 6 hours a day

[hot folio]

About 12/hr and a free gym membership included

[keen nacelle]

weekends off

yeah min wage in my state is going up to 13 in sep

[hot folio]

You get weekends off? Haha

[keen nacelle]

which is when i can get a proper job

[keen nacelle]

well the guy i work for doesnt work weekends so

yeah

[hot folio]

My weekends are pretty much wake up, slave away at the computer, hopefully the client likes it, get paid, go to sleep

[keen nacelle]

id give my views on it but im guessing politics arent allowed here

its going up 1$ every year in my state

[hot folio]

Technically not really

[rustic pulsar]

I work 40 hrs weeks, not payed, but thats ok cause it look really good for college

[keen nacelle]

until it hits 15$ 2 years from now

how is 7.25 a livable wage

like

yeah

[hot folio]

Lmao my parents combined income is about 120k and we are no where close to making the laws, hell it’s actually kinda tough at time getting taxed to hell and back for every last cent

The people making our laws are in the 500k+ bracket

Just in 2020 alone my family had to pay about 60k or so in various taxes and bills

[keen nacelle]

yet jeff bezos barely gets taxed because of the way he makes his money

he only makes 60k a year from being the ceo of amazon

he gets money from his stock

[hot folio]

It’s honestly kinda bull

[late haven]

didnt he step down?

[keen nacelle]

i think he was talking about it

[toxic sinew]

Andy Jassy will be the new Amazon CEO

[hot folio]

Stepping down was a publicity stunt

[keen nacelle]

yep

[toxic sinew]

Jeff Bezos is now the Executive Chairman

[hot folio]

Just to get his name out there again

Still is his business but he ain’t the ceo

[toxic sinew]

The new CEO actually founded Amazon Music and Amazon Web Services

interesting

[late haven]

people under the age of 18 shouldnt be taxxed

[hot folio]

Almost all of my family is in Poland I know how it is

Very similar tho

[keen nacelle]

yeah but they also have a lower cost of living than a lot of us states

[hot folio]

Last time I talked with family it was about 40-45% I think

[keen nacelle]

jesus

does poland have free healthcare?

and college?

[late haven]

how do tax writeoffs work?

[keen nacelle]

you pay less taxes

well

you get money off of your taxes

[late haven]

by doing what?

[keen nacelle]

donations, volunteering

other stuff

[hot folio]

Free healthcare in Poland yes

Free college nope

[late haven]

i saw people do it with nfts and crap

[hot folio]

Only time college was free in Poland was during the USSR

Those times were horrible tho

Imagine waking up only to find your family just gone

[keen nacelle]

i wonder why

yeah all of my family is ashkenazi jewish

[hot folio]

100%

[keen nacelle]

my dads side left germany 2 years before the (word idk if i can say)

my moms side wasnt as lucky

[late haven]

lmao howd we go from gpus to the ussr

[hot folio]

And material that’d be covered here in the US in 8th grade would be covered in Poland in like 4 or 5th grade

In Poland there’s this thing called matura which is one final test and that pretty much decides what college or school you will go to

No extra courses or stuff like that

[keen nacelle]

for what i want to do im going to need full 7 year college

[hot folio]

Only reason I’m fine with the ACT is because I got lucky and did well with it on the first try

Nice

What college do you go to?

All of my exams came out of my pocket ;-;

[keen nacelle]

my school does 2 free college classes each junior and senior semester

so im going to take those

[hot folio]

Taking those exams for fun took a toll on my pocket

Chem, physics, calc all of those types of AP exams I took for fun because I was bored

That’s actually really good

I kinda wish I went to public school but I’m grateful my parents forced me to go private

[keen nacelle]

jesus

i went to a magnet school in a not so great town of my state and they barely could do their gym floors

for middle scholol

[hot folio]

They forced me to go to private then they forced me to pay for it

What’s a magnet school?

Ahh ok

Now it’s STEAM ffs

I hate how they call it STEAM

[keen nacelle]

yeah its like a public school but with a free lottery to enter

[hot folio]

STEM was so nice and clean

[keen nacelle]

my brother got in when i was in 6th so i got in 100% for my 7th and 8th grade year

they had a high school but i hated that school

[hot folio]

Sounds like my elementary and middle school

[hot folio]

I hated it so damn much

Yeah it does kinda sound like a gimmick. In my school what got me into stem was joining this club I mean cult called science olympiad

[lone pond]

We got stem schools but i didnt get into one

[hot folio]

Really? I did a quick search on them and everywhere it said tuition is completely free

[lone pond]

I got into the aice program though

[hot folio]

What’s aice?

Smh my head

[livid idol]

The fact that I was in the top 10 of my class and I failed English twice (got bored, didn't do any work 😛 ) says a lot about my school

[rustic pulsar]

HOW

how does one fail a class, multiple times, and get top 10, I get like a B+ and thats 50th percentile

[livid idol]

It's a pretty bad school in a pretty bad area. There was a drug dealer that hung out on the corner every day after school. I think we had a 20% dropout rate or something.

[brisk flame]

now, the waiting game

[rustic pulsar]

what card u going for

[runic crypt]

best buy is hosting a ticket distribution for some geforce 30 series cards

at certain locations

[brisk flame]

there are 174 30 series cards here in rochester

[runic crypt]

one of mine is not too far from me

[brisk flame]

if ya near by, I'll keep y'all posted

[runic crypt]

can i pre-order one in advance or do i have to go there first

[brisk flame]

no it's in store only

[runic crypt]

so you have to be there

i was just making sure

[brisk flame]

that's why everyone is sitting in front of the store for 15 hrs lol

[runic crypt]

i'm going to head there in the morning

it starts at 7:30am

so might get up and head there at 5:00am or earlier if i go by bus

this is morning

[restive rose]

there's people lining up already

[rustic pulsar]

gotta get there at like 11 pm tongiht

[dreamy dragon]

Mova#9977 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[runic crypt]

sorry

for the cursing

but seriously, that's a toughie

by 11pm, you mean camping there?

[heady turtle]

Ye you would wanna

[livid idol]

At least it's a summer night

[runic crypt]

keyword being night

i'll ask an offline friend to tag along

[nova marlin]

Bett, u think i can play some games with it on decent frames?

[fickle sequoia]

3060ti 550w+ ryzen5800x 105w with PSU 650w will it work if i'm over 5w?

[livid idol]

The 3060 ti isn't going to use that much power

My 3090 doesn't even use that much power

[fickle sequoia]

they recommended 600w too xD

[livid idol]

The 550W you're looking at is probably the recommended size, not the tdp

650W should be good for that combo

[fickle sequoia]

right so they be counting all the parts not just the GPU in the recommendation

[livid idol]

Exactly

[fickle sequoia]

👍

[reef atlas]

1049 for aorus 3070
1199 for aorus 3070 ti

In Canadian.. is it worth to pay 150 more

[livid idol]

https://tenor.com/view/itdepends-theanswer-ltt-gif-20874711

What's the rest of the system, particularly the CPU model and memory speed?

And what resolution do you want to play at? And what frame rate?

[reef atlas]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/YC49ZZ
1440P 165hz monitor so ideally at that

[livid idol]

I'd say yes, it's worth it. About 10% more performance.

Although the 3800X might be the choke point in some games

[reef atlas]

whys that ? its no good?

[livid idol]

It's good but in pure gaming it loses to the 5600X because of single core speed

[reef atlas]

Mainly wanting the GPU to run max settings in cyberpunk lol

My 1060 isn't cutting it

[livid idol]

Still worth it imo

[keen nacelle]

Yeah at 1440p you'd be fine

[twin niche]

Ngl, I upgraded from a 4th gen i7 to a 5800X and it’s BLAZIN. These zen 3 chips are great @reef atlas

[livid idol]

5800X is blazing all right
Blazing HOT

[reef atlas]

lol

[reef atlas]

so no need for a TI?

[twin niche]

Haha it hasn’t been too bad for me thankfully. Not sure I’ll do any OC on it. My EK AIO should keep it down in temp

[restive rose]

Do they still make custom air coolers for reference boards?

[keen nacelle]

Idk you'll be fine with the ti at 1440p

So whichever you want

[normal hawk]

If only this was true

[spare relic]

😳

damn

[normal hawk]

That's where the link takes me

Damn Nvidia. Update your links

[spare relic]

🐌

[normal hawk]

How much would you spend on a 6800 XT?

[hot folio]

I spent 1.4K on mine

But only because of warranty perks

[normal hawk]

Hmm

[heady turtle]

Yeah it will do you till you can get a better card

[nova marlin]

okay, do u have a card in mind to pair it with?

[nova marlin]

.

[heady turtle]

Wdym, like when you get a chance? Something around 3060-3070 level

[late haven]

gonna hang this on my wall

they surprisingly had enough for everyone

[normal hawk]

😓

[late haven]

pretty sure theyre all lhr

theres gonna be some disappointed miners returning them

[magic wing]

FE models arent LHR iirc

[late haven]

rlly?

[magic wing]

Also only 5-10% of people buying gpus use em for mining only

[late haven]

alr

[normal hawk]

I could buy a 3090 on Newegg..? There are bundles available lol

[magic wing]

better to get on ebay tbh

prices might be lower

and no bundle

[normal hawk]

Paired with expensive mobos yeah

4000$ 😬

I'd rather buy a whole PC. Than that

[late haven]

newegg shuffle is a scam

[normal hawk]

Lol

I might buy this

[magic wing]

add thermal pads as well to cart

lol

[hot folio]

^

[normal hawk]

Lol should i go with the water force one instead and do a custom line?

[magic wing]

add 500$ for water cooling stuff

[normal hawk]

Ye

Waterforce one is 100$ more so it'd be 600$ more

[normal hawk]

Would you be able to link me to a good water cooling kit? CPU waterblock as well. I have a 5950x

[cerulean rover]

Do you really want to mess with a custom loop

Lots of risk, lots of effort, also high costs.

[hot folio]

Keep in mind it’ll be difficult to swap out parts easily and there will be maintenance

[normal hawk]

True

How bad is the Aorus?