graphics-cards

[heady turtle]

There's like a solid 9 of em

[warped ravine]

Meh, I can wait I guess, I wouldnt pay 1800$ for that Zotac tho, someones smokin something...lol

[robust knot]

can someone give me a 3090 so I can play among us in 4k?

[split parrot]

Lol

[subtle cove]

good call personally i dont like zotac

[subtle cove]

yes i need your social security number

[heady turtle]

Just mentioning it as ppl might not know it's the same board by board basis yanoo

[robust knot]

oh lemme go get it i'll brb

[subtle cove]

lol

[warped ravine]

I have a Zotac 2070 Super Mini, its a good card, well has been for a year now. Im not a fan of them anymore tho since all the GFX card stupidity

[subtle cove]

true dat

[lone pond]

i think someone won that

[heady turtle]

You could run among us in 4k and still get 30fps on intel igpu i stg

[subtle cove]

probably a correct asumption

[lone pond]

Yeah someone earlier was celebrating

[warped ravine]

@lone pond Interesting

[subtle cove]

GPU buddies 😈

[lone pond]

Lool

[heady turtle]

Well I'm obvs not gonna recommend a board within flashback jejeeez

[subtle cove]

that beautiful

[warped ravine]

I won a 3060 Ti awhile back, bought it then said nah and returned it coz I already have a 2060 Super lol

[subtle cove]

nice!

oh wait shouldve kept reading

lol

[warped ravine]

HAHA

I built an itx based PC with the money I saved

[subtle cove]

damn

[warped ravine]

Well, helps when you have a spare CPU and GPU right?

[heady turtle]

That's a fine price for it but it usually sits up near 200$

[subtle cove]

yeah

[warped ravine]

Had a 10700k and a 2060 Super laying around

[heady turtle]

You didn't sell it on?

[warped ravine]

Nah

I dont scalp stuff

[split parrot]

I wonder how the graphics are on the 11900k

[subtle cove]

i bought it at 200

[heady turtle]

Dont have to scalp it to sell it

[subtle cove]

still a good price though

[heady turtle]

Ohh yimes

Yikes

[subtle cove]

its usually 210 so

[warped ravine]

Too much hassle then? I dunno, I just turned the shipment around, never hit my doorstep @heady turtle

[heady turtle]

No that's a 150$ board mb plus 50$ for rog branding

[subtle cove]

well

[heady turtle]

Fair enough lol

[warped ravine]

😄

[subtle cove]

at least now i have 23 stickers 😈

ROG stickers 😈

[split parrot]

Yes

[lone pond]

You could have easily made msrp sheesh

[heady turtle]

Yep

Oof really?

My go to nice premium board is for ryzen is b550 gaming edge wifi

Is that a now price or when z390 was relevant tho

[subtle cove]

wow

we prob should go to #cpus-mobo-and-memory

[heady turtle]

What motherboard are you running atm with your 3200g btw?

Read again pls

[subtle cove]

rn its a ASRock B450m Pro4 :/, i got kinda ripped of as it was a prebuilt at $750 usd

it does work though

[heady turtle]

I said now*pricing

I suppose

I think price up now tho cuz old chipset

[heady turtle]

That's a good board, i would just keep that and return your b550

[subtle cove]

for a 5900x?

[heady turtle]

Fair enough

[subtle cove]

im selling my current pc soon!

lol

[heady turtle]

Ehhhh idk what the vrms are like off the top of my head and i need to bed so I'm not gonna say yes but also not no

[warped ravine]

I still have my old 4930k on a Rampage IV Black Edition Mobo and GTX 780 lol Honestly its still kinda beasty.

[subtle cove]

also thoughts on the Gigabyte z390 Gaming X? i know its not relivant to the coveration but i used to have one

[subtle cove]

it has horrible vrms from what ive heard, im to much of a scared-ey cat to try to do anything

oh also night

[vital pivot]

Any win/lose notifications yet

[subtle cove]

?

[vital pivot]

Shuffle

[subtle cove]

i just reailzed, why did you have a cat in PC at one point?

lmao

extra performance?

yes

[vital pivot]

My buddy just won the evga 3080ti combo

[warped ravine]

Grats, thats the one I wanted lol

[raven thunder]

tell him to buy a lottery ticket RN

[vital pivot]

Heh. He offered it to me at cost.

Mainly because I won a 3060 and gave it to him at cost

[raven thunder]

at cost?

[vital pivot]

I pay what he pays.

[raven thunder]

nice friend you got there xD

[vital pivot]

Yeah he’s a good kid

[subtle cove]

ill pay my liver

[raven thunder]

enjoy the 3080ti now ig

[subtle cove]

and ill toss i my spleen too

[raven thunder]

[vital pivot]

I’m gonna let him keep it. He deserves it after upgrading from a gtx960 to a 3060

[raven thunder]

ah, you gonna buy back the 3060?

[vital pivot]

Nope

[rustic pulsar]

I won twice in 2 weeks

[vital pivot]

I have a 3060 and 3070 in 2 or the builds here already

[raven thunder]

how many gpus do you guys have in total

[raven thunder]

thats not realistic for anyone else

[vital pivot]

4

Heh. I won 10 times

[raven thunder]

WAIT WHAT

you have won the shuffle 10 times?!

[vital pivot]

I won 2 3060s a 6700xt and 2 3070s

I bought those

I also won a 6900xt and a 3090 but I didn’t want to pay that much

[raven thunder]

dude hacked the servers to let himself win everytime hehe

[subtle cove]

bruh

[raven thunder]

please explain your secrets

it's for educational reasons

[subtle cove]

do you own half of the newegg accounts?

[vital pivot]

I’ve had an account since they went on line.

[raven thunder]

bro he owns all of them lmao

[raven thunder]

still

10 times

[vital pivot]

Well if it makes you feel good. I haven’t won since the anniversary shuffle

[raven thunder]

that makes me feel worse considering how long (or shall i say short) it took you to win 10 time

[vital pivot]

And now I only enter for evga 3080-3090 and the Xbox X

[raven thunder]

please share your secrets, it's for educational reasons

like acc educational reason, im definitely not gonna go out and follow your tips

[subtle cove]

bro i need a 3080

[raven thunder]

the xbox isn't that hard to get anymore tbh

[subtle cove]

bro start a YT channel yout gonna be the biggest tech channel

if you share your tips

linus tech tips 😏

idk

[raven thunder]

at this point, this man is linus lmao

[subtle cove]

would explain how hes selling them at MSRP (ik why he is but dont mind that

i was tryna do that

[raven thunder]

your a diff bread lmao

[subtle cove]

the 25% teriff is just dumb

for the US

vat?

i dont think so

[raven thunder]

cough cough, canada

its literally sad for canada at this point; first, we dont even get stock in the first place; two, our msrps are like 75 more than the us (for the evga 3070)

yea obviously

after exchange i meant

btw

sadly

[subtle cove]

wouldnt VAT just be about $50?

fair

[raven thunder]

yup

[subtle cove]

for me a $920 USD product has about $50

(cpu and mobo)

from amazon

if that metters

matters

good idea

yes

[tender mulch]

If all the states had the same tax rate.............

Ah, I see what you mean now

Like the shelf price is with tax included

Also depends greatly on where you shop

Safeway is ridiculous

while Winco is much cheaper

We go because convenience

Nice!

Good food shouldn't be so expensive :/

Wife and I were in a hurry the other day and it was $26 for two of us at Burger King, like WTH

It wasn't even anything big lol

Washington

[subtle cove]

c o l d

in washington

[tender mulch]

COLD???

[subtle cove]

warm compared to my state though

yes

[tender mulch]

Been 90 here all week and going to be 100 this weekend!

It ain't cold

[subtle cove]

yeah thats freezing bro

bro just watercool your blood

[tender mulch]

I just might

We will be cornerworking motorcycle races this weekend

Gonna need a gallon of water per day

or more

[subtle cove]

do it over the ocean

so you can swim

def

[tender mulch]

That's a thing you know

[subtle cove]

WHAT

[tender mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDi9uFcD7XI

Yeah

[subtle cove]

h o w

[tender mulch]

Paddle tire and skis on the front

EZPZ

[subtle cove]

Mor's Mutual, whats your issue?

my bike go into water

[tender mulch]

You can do it without the skis

Just not as far

[subtle cove]

well yeah

o

i read that wrong lmao

[tender mulch]

lol

[vale ingot]

zotac 3070ti amp holo need gpu stand?

[ancient agate]

We got a scammer

[flat nymph]

@torpid garden something concerning

like very

so uhhhh

I change my mind

G6X? above 100c BAD

[torpid garden]

Terk read through all those and thinks 90C is max 365/long term

[flat nymph]

dont see why it'd be less than G6

I'm reading the full spec rn

@torpid garden oop

nvm

thats tCase

now

7c/W is standard for micron packages

so
yeah 110 to 120c junction

[clever pagoda]

If the VGA post light comes on and stays on the whole time I use my PC should I be worried?

[timid narwhal]

Your best bet would be to look at the manual of your motherboard

[normal hawk]

Ye

[heady turtle]

Usually doesn't boot if that might is on lol

[drowsy kiln]

I've got a GTX 1080-Ti FE and it stopped working after updating motherboard BIOS. Would assume swapping board would be a viable solution but might as well see what you guys say

The slight RGB on the front and the fans will not spin either so honestly no clue

[heady turtle]

Did you update to a beta bios?

[drowsy kiln]

Dont think so, should have been latest

Well latest official release

[heady turtle]

There's usually not a beta bios section it's usually just the most recent bios lol, what board and what version

[drowsy kiln]

Gigabyte Z490, can check exact model when I get home. And will check my downloads folder for version

[heady turtle]

Yeah you'd want the exact board first

[normal hawk]

When is AMD's drop on Thursday?

Also, who else is ready to lose the shuffle tonight? 😭

[thick cliff]

AMD dropped more than GPUs. Two days ago, they also released their FidelityFX Super Resolution updates, which is their version of nVidia's DLSS

[tender mulch]

Well, that needs to be baked into games like DLSS does

[thick cliff]

It is getting that way. On release day, there were 7 games it was baked into, Anno 1800 being one of them

AMD's FidelityFX Contrast Adaptive Sharpening is AMD's version of RayTracing, and one of the games CAS is baked into is Shadow of the Tomb Raider

[tender mulch]

It's not ray tracing XD

It's not even DLSS

[thick cliff]

RayTracing and DLSS are nVidia proprietary technologies. AMD couldn't use them because nVidia wouldn't let AMD use them, so AMD had to come up with its own versions

[tender mulch]

Sigh

Fidelity FX isn't ray tracing nor is it DLSS

AMD cards already supported Ray Tracing

[thick cliff]

Well, whatever it is, I'm very familiar with the GPU war between nVidia and AMD and how the two don't always share technologies with each other

[tender mulch]

Most of us are.........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYeikohRts8

It's not even really a competitor for DLSS, it's different

[heady turtle]

Amds version of ray tracing is ray tracing XD

[tender mulch]

It's just upscaling and sharpening

[mint depot]

isnt it like DLSS

[tender mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCzjQ4qP124

[thick cliff]

And yet the way people talk about RayTracing, they make it seem as if it can only be used if you have an nVidia RTX card

[mint depot]

well I mean it used to be that way

and AMD RT is kinda

not great

[tender mulch]

That's because AMD cards get their FPS halved using Ray Tracing

Check benchmarks

[mint depot]

^

[thick cliff]

I've been a Linux user since '09 and nVidia has never been willing to release reliable or decent drivers for Linux. AMD's drivers on Linux have always been better than nVidia's drivers, at least from my experience.

[tender mulch]

Kind of

[limber flax]

um

have you ever tried popos

[thick cliff]

I've always used Ubuntu or its derivatives

[limber flax]

literally installs nvidia drivers

[thick cliff]

The Noveau drivers are what come with the OS

[heady turtle]

No lol you have to have a 2000/3000 nvidia or 6000 series amd, Nvidia is just better at it atm because they have done it before lol

[mint depot]

Linus torvalds literally said F you NVIDIA I'm sure after that they dont wanna release competent linux drivers jk

[heady turtle]

Pop os or linux mint are nice distros yeah

[mint depot]

hm

[thick cliff]

That's why I prefer AMD. AMD's open-source drivers using MESA are nearly as good as their proprietary drivers in the current state...I don't normally have any issues with stability, and real-world performance is either on par with or only a few fps off of the Windows-based benchmark videos I find on Youtube

[magic wing]

Linux mint best

[mint depot]

GUYS WHAT A GOOD DEAL

lmao

[heady turtle]

It's not terrible, even for msi lol

[mint depot]

I guess

better than some 3060s I see at 600+

[thick cliff]

If I could get a Radeon RX 6700 for that price, I'd be happy. I don't really have a need for the 6900XT

[mint depot]

I'm not sure how many people actually enter for the cards over 400 bucks

[mint depot]

6900xt the highest end card, just like the 3090 the highest end card will be the card nobody really needs at all and is usually the worst value

the 3070ti and 3080ti are just

NO

I mean if all you can get is a 3070ti it isn't that bad

but a 3080ti is bad in almost all situations

for 500 more

[thick cliff]

And yet, people line up for days just to get their hands on the 3090 or even a 3080, "because I want to chase the 200+Hz refresh rate on a 4k monitor"

[mint depot]

msrp

which nobody can get these days anyways

[tender mulch]

Eh, passmark isn't a great test

3D Mark is a bit better for GPU's

[mint depot]

3080 isn't that bad at all

3080 pretty decent value

[thick cliff]

To me it is like buying a Tesla. Get up into that level and it is more about social status and bragging rights than anything else. Makes me wonder what they're trying to compensate for.

[tender mulch]

If comparing a bad GPU test to a bad GPU test is considered valid, I guess so. Better to use game to game FPS/resolution comparison or something like 3DMark

[mint depot]

what

[thick cliff]

Speaking of, I did test AMD's FidelityFX Super Resolution on Anno 1800 on the ultra preset

[limber flax]

some people actually require that kind of power

[mint depot]

^

and some just really want a better gaming experience and have the money

people can buy whatever they want with their money kek

[limber flax]

not everyone brags about buying a 3080 tho

[tender mulch]

Rendering on a 3090 is pretty POG

3080 too, when it comes to production, AMD just doesn't have what nvidia does

[limber flax]

only a certain number of people do that

[mint depot]

^some people have a 3080 but just say they have a 3080 and don't rub it in people's faces or try to make it some sort of hierarchy

[limber flax]

I hAvE 115623 3080Ti iN 118 Way nVLiNk

CrY At My FEeT PeAsAnt GaMerS

[thick cliff]

Some people buy cards like the 3090 just to prove they have it. Social status, mainly.

[limber flax]

some

[mint depot]

thats only a number of people

[limber flax]

not all

your statement implied anyone who buys a 3080 or above does it solely for that purpose

[mint depot]

more people have a 3080 but honestly can give less care about bragging

[limber flax]

I would be pretty happy if i got a 3080

[thick cliff]

Unless they're doing 4k gaming, crypto mining, or things like that, I don't see why they buy cards like that.

[limber flax]

rendering.

[mint depot]

rendering

[limber flax]

among other applications

[tender mulch]

Blender, GIS rendering, CAD work, tons of uses for it.

[mint depot]

and they could crypto mine if they want

[limber flax]

thanks, vintage

also crypto mining in your own home is fine lol

theres no problem with that

[mint depot]

^

[limber flax]

anyone with a gpu can do that

not for much longer, mind you

but they can

[thick cliff]

Only problem I have with it is when you buy out a store's entire stock of a specific GPU just so you can mine faster

[tender mulch]

The people who buy it just to flex are outliers

-_-

miners are only 10-15% of the market

[mint depot]

^

[limber flax]

the people who buy entire stock just to mine better are also outliers compared to the entire market

[tender mulch]

PC Demand skyrocketed, up 26% at the end of last year

[mint depot]

Yea, most buy a couple of cards or buy used

[tender mulch]

People working from home, needing PC's. Kids needing PC's for school and other things, it's nuts if you check the stats and not just techtubers blaming miners for views

[astral mist]

Try $1,000 more in Canada 🤣

[thick cliff]

The chip shortage isn't helping matters much..

[limber flax]

but it's all the miners fault the market is broken reee

[mint depot]

tbh there is more demand for gpus when it comes to pc gaming rather than demand from mining and scalping

[limber flax]

oh, don't forget about the scalpers too

reeee

[mint depot]

kek msrp don't exist no more

[tender mulch]

And them, yeah

taking advantage of the demand to make a crap ton of money

[limber flax]

wasn't there a news article

that wrote about some 17 year old or something

doing that exact thing

and wrote it like a frickin autobiography?

[thick cliff]

Isn't that what miners are doing, too? Taking advantage of the demand to make a crap ton full of money on crypto?

[limber flax]

?

explain further

[tender mulch]

Not really

Have you seen crypto prices lately?

XD

[mint depot]

not really, some are gamers who just mine to get back some money from their big gpu purchase or something

[limber flax]

they've been an oof last i heard

[thick cliff]

Have you seen the resistance to crypto's acceptance as a currency?

[tender mulch]

That's a topic for another channel 😉

[mint depot]

some buy used 5700xts and make a mining rig with a couple

#846508336543301653

kekw

[thick cliff]

I look at it this way: When the market is functioning properly, miners being 10 to 15 percent of the demand isn't a problem. But that 10 to 15 percent of the demand becomes noticeable when a significant portion of the market is overwhelmed or experiencing shortages

[tender mulch]

It's still only 10-15% lol

[limber flax]

overwhelmed by what?

literally everyone else who isn't a miner

[tender mulch]

nvidia released 9 million GPU's 4th quarter of last year

That means 8.1 million cards went to non-miners

[thick cliff]

It has never been as simple as "why can't they just make more cards"

[mint depot]

miners and scalpers aren't the problem it is the gamers

[tender mulch]

Never said it was

[mint depot]

I know

you didnt

[tender mulch]

Look at the CPU demand as well, it's not just GPU's

[mint depot]

The journey to find an msrp 5950x

[thick cliff]

I don't see how "It's the gamers" makes sense when even budget GPUs like the 5500XT and those others are also experiencing shortages

[limber flax]

because

everyone and their mother needs a pc

to work from home

[acoustic rain]

Its probably moreso businesses

Ye

[mint depot]

Don't forget about their dog

[tender mulch]

Never said it was just gamers either

XD

[limber flax]

and work, is not just word processing and reading emails

[mint depot]

^

[limber flax]

and their dog, though

thats true

[acoustic rain]

It's the pron

[mint depot]

I've never seen graphics cards this lively

[acoustic rain]

[mint depot]

LMAO

How about we come to the conclusion everyone is bad

makes sense, right

[thick cliff]

I've never seen graphics cards this expensive. Prices nearly doubled at their peak. What used to be affordable cards are now unaffordable

[mint depot]

kekw

[mint depot]

I'm talking about this channel

not

[tender mulch]

Don't overlook the CPU market as well. Even Microcenter was scalping AMD CPU's at one point

[mint depot]

the actual market

[harsh granite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvlK_Wc_aYo

[tender mulch]

People still scalping 5000 series

[limber flax]

to be fair, it's not wrong either

[mint depot]

LMAO

[heady turtle]

[limber flax]

gpu market has been pretty active

[acoustic rain]

I'd buy that

[limber flax]

LMAO 3080 TIE

[mint depot]

I'd wear that to the next wedding I'd have to go to kek

[acoustic rain]

Can walk around saying "finally got my 3080 Ti"

[thick cliff]

Hence why I am not in any hurry to upgrade. Besides, I have yet to find a game or app that maxes out the Ryzen 5 3600 anyway

[limber flax]

i mean, it depends on the game or app

[tender mulch]

Shouldn't be too hard with the right settings and refresh rate 😉

[mint depot]

I got a random qs, in gaming the core i5 11400 stock performs near a 5600x, right?

[limber flax]

none of my games hit my cpu too hard

but i can max out my gpu

[thick cliff]

I don't do anything in Blender. Shadow of the Tomb Raider and X Rebirth are the only two that hit my CPU hard, but even then, 60% all-core at the most

[heady turtle]

No game but cyberpunk will use all 6 cores lol but it will use all of your single core potential which is what games use, also csgo, valorant etc will max out a 3600 basically

[tender mulch]

Within 10%

[mint depot]

well, usually

[mint depot]

okay thats nice

[limber flax]

i mean, what about anno or any other cpu intensive games

blender can use GPU for render

[mint depot]

I got a cursed motherboard and cpu combo, kek

[heady turtle]

@thick cliff

[thick cliff]

Anno 1800, which is what I tested FidelityFX Super Resolution on, doesn't really hit my CPU hard unless I turn off Super Resolution, and even then, it barely scratches the Ryzen 5 3600. I think the highest CPU utilization I saw during my testing was 30% all-core

Only two games I play that don't max out the Radeon RX 5500XT are Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor and X Rebirth

[heady turtle]

I swear this guy can't read my messages lol

[limber flax]

apparently he cannot

[mint depot]

this chat is becoming too big brain for me ngl

kek

[limber flax]

back to python

[thick cliff]

X Rebirth is actually very CPU intensive, devoting one thread each to rendering, AI, pathfinding, and simulation

[astral mist]

Computers do more than gaming and mining.

Video editing, 3d modelling, both can be intensive when rendering things. Especially when animating complex scenes. The difference between a 3060ti and a 3090 are veeeery apparent when rendering things. Not to mention futureproofing.

[astral mist]

Got my 3060ti for MSRP in feb, my 3080 on backorder will be MSRP (or very close to) as well.

[tender mulch]

Ya, got my 3070 for $559 in January, before the Tariffs took effect

Got lucky

[astral mist]

(Lmao my messages take 10 minutes to send again because of poor cell reception)

[tender mulch]

lol

[thick cliff]

I can't find a Radeon RX 5700XT for less than $700 these days. It's original price was right around $500

[thick cliff]

Hell, I remember when I got my Radeon RX 5500XT for $250 new. 5700XT was $550 new. Can't find the 5500XT for less than $400 now.

[heady turtle]

[heady turtle]

Shortage lol

[tender mulch]

That's what happens when you stop producing the GPU lol. Pretty sure AMD discontinued them earlier this year so there's limited stock left at AIB's. nVidia discontinued the 2000 series last July.

[thick cliff]

Even then. Have you seen the price of even the 6700XT? I can't afford that.

[astral mist]

Then save for longer

[mint depot]

nice

[mint depot]

rip

[hot folio]

The 6700xt just really isn’t good value for what you would pay even at MSRP

[mint depot]

^

3060ti perf for 3070 price

[hot folio]

6000 series only starts to get good value wise at the 6800 and above

[thick cliff]

And the 6800s and above are well outside my budget. For my use cases, I don't think I'd really need a 6800, though

[mint depot]

the 6800 and 6800xt are the best value cards in the lineup so far

[feral cape]

anyone here with a 5700xt that doesn't support opengl for some reason? I've tried reseting and updating drivers but nothing. It should have open gl api ver 4.6 right?

[hot folio]

The 6900xt is only really worth it at MSRP of 1000

[tender mulch]

Linux or Windows?

[feral cape]

windows

[tender mulch]

Can you try Vulkan instead? OpenGL is deprecated and AMD's support/implementation on Windows is honestly garbo.

Depends on your game/software of course

[feral cape]

yeah... is there a separate download for vulkan?

thought the software was package along side the radron graphic software

[mint depot]

yes

[tender mulch]

AMD drivers should include Vulkan support, it's more the game/software you're running that has it or not.

[feral cape]

mhm gotcha

[magic wing]

Can confirm that they do

[tender mulch]

What are you trying to run?

[feral cape]

Minecraft lol

[tender mulch]

Oh

[feral cape]

wanted to check out the new update

[tender mulch]

Yeah, OpenGL and 5700XT crashes are well documented lol

[feral cape]

oof

guess I can only wait for MC to be rewritten in something better than opengl then lol

[tender mulch]

The performance is also less on OpenGL

[thick cliff]

I have a comparatively small list of games that I play. I don't use blender, I don't use my computer for CAD, only additional load is screen recording while I am gaming, but beyond that, nothing. Those games? ARK Survival Evolved, X Rebirth, Company of Heroes 2, BattleTech, Anno 1800, The Sims 3, Tropico 6, Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor, Wolfenstein Youngblood, and Shadow of the Tomb Raider. Occasionally Star Conflict. Monitor is a 1080p@144Hz AMD FreeSync Monitor. I peg 144fps in ARK Survival Evolved and X Rebirth on the ultra presets already, and I get 72fps on Shadow of the Tomb Raider on the High preset, but I only get about 48fps on Deus Ex Mankind Divided and about 58fps on Anno 1800 with FidelityFX Super Resolution in Performance mode. And this is on a Radeon RX 5500XT. I'd be happy with 75fps on Deus Ex Mankind Divided on the High preset, but I don't know what GPU would get me there

[feral cape]

thanks for the help tho!

[astral mist]

Mankind divided is so poorly optimized it's disgusting

[thick cliff]

Good game, good storyline, good graphics, horrible performance

[thick cliff]

I run Anno 1800 and The Sims 3 through Lutris using DXVK, but like I said, I'd be happy with 75fps average on Anno 1800

[thick cliff]

My FidelityFX Super Resolution Anno 1800 test was on the Ultra preset with Super Resolution in performance mode, and that's what got me the 58fps. For the games I play that run natively on Linux (thanks to Feral Interactive), lowest is Deus Ex Mankind Divided. Every other game except Tropico 6 is 70fps or above.

[heady turtle]

Once again, 480 msrp, upped due to shortage

[thick cliff]

In terms of "future-proofing", my realistic goal is 75fps average in my games while running VR, and I want to get my rig to be VR capable, not so much 4K gaming capable

[heady turtle]

If you have a 5500xt and a low budget we can't really recommend a card you can reliably get at a price I'd keep the 5500xt, tune some settings and wait it out

[heady turtle]

No machine is realistically 4k gaming capable bar a 3090 and 5900x

Even then it's a stretch

5500xt should be vr capable

Idk how it will be but it will run

[thick cliff]

It is VR capable, but I don't know at what framerates, and I have no intention of buying the Oculus now that Facebook owns them

[heady turtle]

That willl highly depend on the game, settings and resolution

[thick cliff]

Kind of why I am glad that AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution is getting me better performance on Anno 1800. I run Anno 1800 on the ultra preset and I practically need FXSR to even have a good experience.

[heady turtle]

Well duh lol

[thick cliff]

Bandaid solution really, at least until GPU prices go back down

[thick cliff]

Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Anno 1800, and Tropico 6 are the only games that the 5500XT struggles with. All the rest, I get 70fps+ on the high or ultra presets. It also helps that X Rebirth and Shadow of the Tomb Raider are multithreaded games. All the rest appear to be single-core. AMD Precision Boost Overdrive helps a little bit with that, overclocking the CPU cores to a per-core 4.1GHz as needed

[astral mist]

I'd just drop a few performance heavy settings and play it as is until the market recovers and buy a card then.

Prices are already declining heavily

(My reply took 16 minutes to send because my lunchroom is basically a Faraday cage, fml)

[thick cliff]

In the meanwhile, how reliable are real-world benchmarks like what I did with Anno 1800 and the AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution

[astral mist]

Why are you running it on ultra when your PC can't handle it without FXSR?

[thick cliff]

Benchmarking purposes, mainly.

[thick cliff]

Plus, I wanted to see exactly what difference FXSR made to the graphics quality, if I could actually notice a difference when the graphics preset was already as high as it could go

[astral mist]

i can't play on ultra without fxsr
i mainly run it on ultra for benchmarking

[heady turtle]

Lol

Yeah imo drop details before res/turn on fxr

[thick cliff]

That's what my next step was going to be anyway, drop the graphics preset and tweak the FXSR to see how I can achieve the best balance of quality and performance

I did actually run with FXSR in Performance mode, Quality mode, and turned off completely, netting 58fps, 40fps, and 24fps on the ultra graphics preset, respectively

When I don't have to work, I'll try again on the High and Medium presets

[mint depot]

BB DROP!! but no 3060ti

I cry now

[clever pagoda]

Best buy dropped like 1 card

[mint depot]

yea

they only dropped 3070ti

[subtle cove]

anyone here been to a micro center since the gpu shortage? if i get unlucky with the newegg raffle, than i may have to resort to go to MC

[hot folio]

I go to microcenter almost every week just to pick up stuff, GPUs are quite common in the microcenters near me

I picked up a 3070 and 6800xt without having to wait on a line

[keen nacelle]

Am I allowed to post links here?

[hot folio]

Yeah you’re fine I think

[keen nacelle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/o74tx3/usatn_h_non_lhr_zotac_white_dual_fan_rtx_3070_w/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share thus guy is selling a white zotac 3070 for 950$ if any of yall have been looking for one

Ik its not msrp but it's atleast better than ebay

[hot folio]

Personally I wouldn’t go for a 2 fan 3070 nor any zotac cards

[heady turtle]

Honestly bout as good as they come for white cards lol

[subtle cove]

where though? i feel like this is one underground that no one knows about lol

[keen nacelle]

Yeah but white cards are near impossible to find

[hot folio]

New York

I have 4 of them within an hour of me

[keen nacelle]

I wish I was just a bit closer to nyc

I'm in the middle of CT

[hot folio]

Westbury, Flushing, Brooklyn and Yonkers

[keen nacelle]

Nearest microcenter is 2h away in mass

Tbf, CT doesn't actually exist

Everyone knows it's just newyork and Massachusetts

[hot folio]

Lmao

[hot folio]

Then yeah I’d go for it if you’re not planning to OC at all

[subtle cove]

which one? that’s like a 5 hour drive one way, doable

[keen nacelle]

I was posting it for of anyone here is looking for one

[subtle cove]

i think at least

[keen nacelle]

I've got my 3060 ti

[hot folio]

All of them are fairly reliable

[subtle cove]

nvm it’s like 9 h drive to buffulo

[keen nacelle]

Jesus

[subtle cove]

i could still do it though maybe

[keen nacelle]

I think its four or five for me

[hot folio]

Yeah I wouldn’t do the 9Hr drive just for a chance

[keen nacelle]

With a 9hr drive after tolls you'd be better off buying a scalped card

[hot folio]

Also if you’re looking for an Nvidia card those chances drop a lot lower

[keen nacelle]

Thats 18hr of gas

[heady turtle]

Me too

[subtle cove]

if anyone here goes to the one in mass, is that one decent? cause that’s the closest one

[keen nacelle]

I've never been

[hot folio]

AMD has a lot higher chances of getting a card

[heady turtle]

I also wish i was closer to micro center true bacca XE

[keen nacelle]

Yeah lol

[subtle cove]

buffulo is what i though of lol

[keen nacelle]

I ended up going pre build bc of how far away mine is

Went from 1200$ to over 1800$ because f skytech

3060 ti and 3600

[hot folio]

Lmao all the microcenters are by Long Island

There’s none by Buffalo

[keen nacelle]

Coulda built a 3070 system for less than that

Hell my friend built a 3080 5800x system for 1800

[subtle cove]

have you been to the one in cambridge recently? it would be really stupid cause it like 4h 1 way but you know

[hot folio]

Nope only been to the ones in New York

[normal hawk]

Supposedly AMD partnered with Epic for UE5. I don't know where the improvements will be but I'd hope production would have some improvements

[tender mulch]

All the GPU's will have improvements

[normal hawk]

Well yeah.

[normal hawk]

I wanna go hommmmeee

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/cyanide-and-happiness-im-home-animation-strip-gif-11292245

[normal hawk]

Exactly

2 and a half more months 😭

[heady turtle]

Oof where are you atm?

[normal hawk]

I deployed last November lol. I'm in the Middle East. Hence why it's night for me during the shuffles lol

9pm right now

[heady turtle]

Ahhg what do you do? It be 7pm for me so i mean time aint to bad but it is annoying when things in us are night time there and like early af morning here

[normal hawk]

I am a postal specialist so i work at an APO and handle mail

[heady turtle]

Ohh interesting

Didn't think they would ship you off for post

[normal hawk]

Well they need people here to handle mail. USPS is the one who actually trains people in the Air Force, Navy, Marines and Army

[heady turtle]

I seee

[normal hawk]

Army is the only one that only does post offices overseas so it's not it's own MOS like it is for the other branches.

I'm actually Human Resources just with an extra school 🤷‍♂️

Games are gonna look so good when i get home.

Got a 3080 waiting for me 😤

[heady turtle]

Ohhh didn't realize it was army post lol thought was regular and was v confused

[normal hawk]

It's all good lol.

[heady turtle]

Makes more sense

[normal hawk]

My normal job is more tech related. I wanna go back 😟

[heady turtle]

What normal job be ?

[normal hawk]

I work in game development 😏 sorta. I'm a QA tester.

[clever pagoda]

Gotta make sure all the QAs are tested

[astral mist]

Ensure QA agents know math, test em to be sure

[normal hawk]

Lol.

In general terms I'm a Game Tester :p

I look for bugs.

[fossil talon]

Massive Canadian BB drop?

[normal hawk]

Nice

[cerulean rover]

Nice

[clever pagoda]

Oh i see you should of just said you were an Entomologist

[woeful stump]

GT1030 2Gb DDR5 any good?

Stores in my country don't sell mid to high end gps

Gpu

[cerulean rover]

Take a look at this
https://youtu.be/2H1B7ibjJZg

It's definitely better than just iGPU, as long as you make sure it's the gddr5 version, but don't expect too much.

[livid idol]

The ddr5 model is alright, better than nothing really. Esports games will run best on it since they use the cpu more.

[astral mist]

What disco?

[fossil talon]

Lithium

It's only a Canadian stock server

[astral mist]

I am Canadian and I want stock

Might go to downtown Edmonton one tonight 🤔

[fossil talon]

So Claireview confirmed empty atm

Same with Westhill Calgary

[astral mist]

Oof

[fossil talon]

Not sure about the others yet

I have people checking each store in AB, SK and BC atm

[astral mist]

Need me that 3080 strix

[fossil talon]

Not sure about 3080s, they are literal unicorns in these drops

Especially western Canada

[astral mist]

Reeeeee

[fossil talon]

There were 3080FEs/XC3 Ultras in Eastern Canada though

[astral mist]

MemX gets 6-12 GPUs per month and like 3 are 3080s of varying AIB partners

[fossil talon]

Ye

I was lucky with my BO of 3080 Vision/Suprim X back in January from MemX

There were several 3070tis/3080tis in stores in Calgary MemXs last week

[astral mist]

I picked up my 3060ti eagle in December(?)

[fossil talon]

Wait how? Lol

Oh wait am I mixing up release dates

I'm being dumb yea

I read it as 3060 lmaooo

I picked up a 3070FE at release and a 3060ti FE at release as well

3070FE is my main rn, but I plan to go to 3080. I used to buy GPUs for friends and friends of friends hence the "ex-gpu service"

[astral mist]

Or maybe that was when I bought the rest of my parts

Had my 3060ti Dec 18th after backordering on launch day. I ordered the 3080 strix same day

(Attempted to send these messages as 13:14, have been pending ever since. Stupid cell reception)

[subtle cove]

are the lines at most micro center still huge for 30 series cards, or are they back to be kinda normal? idk i kinda need to know

[hot folio]

They usually have maybe 40-50 people at least by me

2 locations every shipment have over 100 people camping out

[subtle cove]

so it has calmed down in the past months since the 30 series came out? for most MCs at least?

[hot folio]

Speak for yourself, all the MCs by me are completely fine with them and even encourage it at times

I was talking with employees at some of the locations by me and they recommended camping out if I wanted to get a card

[green harness]

When was this?

Very recently they started switching to shuffles

The one nearest me banned camping and started a shuffle maybe two weeks ago and they hadn't had issues as far as I know

[lone pond]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4284366 if anyones interested in a 1650

most reasonably priced gpu ive seen in 2 years

[heady turtle]

Comes with a wack psu also bad ;-;

[lone pond]

id personally be ok with that

[hot folio]

Within the past month or two

[green harness]

The swap to shuffles is very recent so those MCs may have switched to shuffles and banning camping or may do so soon. From what I've heard it's a corporate decision so it likely impacts all MCs

[hot folio]

Ahh ok that’s good

[green harness]

Yeah, I'm unfortunately still too far from my "local" MC to try there unless I have some other reason to be in the area.

They should open up a GPU shuffle branch within like ten minutes of me

[mellow glen]

Did Best Buy drop today?

[rancid oriole]

finally got a zotac 3080ti

[flint vigil]

how much

[rancid oriole]

1700 drop from newegg

the shuffle

[green harness]

Barely

[elder elk]

nice

[split parrot]

There were a few 3060 cards on Amazon a little bit ago

[mellow glen]

3080s too

No Best Buy tho ??

[split parrot]

Nooe

[mellow glen]

I haven’t seen them drop

[heady turtle]

Apparently 3070 tis on bb earlier

[topaz furnace]

Anyone know when evga gonna email those who queued in November?

[mellow glen]

Damn I rlly want a 3080 smh

[split parrot]

Go to the evga forum

They posted a current spreadsheet on there

I've been waiting for a while as well

[heady turtle]

2023 XD

[topaz furnace]

Wouldn't doubt it 🥲

[green harness]

BB did drop, it just seemed to be a tiny drop

[split parrot]

It depends on which card

For evga

[heady turtle]

People signed up in like sept and haven't gotten yet

[topaz furnace]

Also wouldn't doubt

[split parrot]

I've seen bb drops at 3am

They get two shipments per week

Probably best to go into the store

[heady turtle]

Bb dont sell in store

That was a once off for the 3080 tie

[split parrot]

Ya that sucks

[late haven]

i keep finding broken Gpus online that always end up working just fine

people are stupid

[heady turtle]

Nice lol

[late haven]

ended up finessing a 2060 super for only $300

[split parrot]

Nice

[lone pond]

I got a 2080 ti for $1k

[late haven]

thats good considering the $1200 launch price and the current market

[rancid oriole]

3080ti zotac for 1700 and i just accepted it

[mellow glen]

lowkey that isnt bad tho

[lone pond]

Yeah that’s why I jump on it, only downside was it was a single fan blower and loud af but I replaced the cooler with this

Before

[plush delta]

I lucked out at Micro Center and finally got a 3080. They switched to a raffle system and I won the opportunity to buy a card. I was the 7th person chosen and I picked a 3080.

[lone pond]

Dang.

Too bad I live 2000+ miles away from the nearest one.

[plush delta]

It was my first time trying this new raffle system of theirs. I would have already tried the camping out thing, but I never could manage to find a dry night to do it.

[hollow raptor]

Do you guys think they’ll do a 3070 FE drop tmrw

[heady turtle]

Fe myth at this point

[mellow glen]

does msi afterburner link not work at the moment?

[heady turtle]

You did just 3070 ties tho

[mellow glen]

so bb is still doing a drop today?

[heady turtle]

😎

[static zinc]

@mellow glen it was 7 hours ago, most sold out in seconds but 3070 lastest for a good bit

[mellow glen]

damn thats wack i did not see it

rip guess theres next week

guess theres the next next week*

decent performance for OC?

[green harness]

Is that user benchmark?

[hot folio]

Yes it is

Don’t use UBM for benchmarking purposes

It’s horrible

[mellow glen]

whats good for benchmarking

[mellow glen]

yes

[green harness]

User benchmark is garbage.

3D Mark is good

You can even run Time Spy free

You can also just check your fps in games/game benchmarks

[cerulean rover]

unigen superposition, 3dmark time spy, 3dmark fire strike, heck, gpupi works too

[verbal cedar]

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-SickleFlow-Individually-Customizable/dp/B086KXKTR2/ref=asc_df_B086KXKTR2/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416794793908&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5688357251675760448&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1016418&hvtargid=pla-909748304818&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=95587149484&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416794793908&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5688357251675760448&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1016418&hvtargid=pla-909748304818

are these good fans?

[formal apex]

Any estimates on when people have been getting here notifies for the 3080ti evga que?

[nocturne anchor]

So I have to try to get a replacement on my sapphire pulse Radeon rx 580 does anyone know if the company will be able to restock ?

[green harness]

That's not really accurate. Some weeks a GPU won't be sent out at all, others it'll go out several times. We don't really know how many gpus go out in a drop

We do know that EVGA has gotten to about 07:44:04 in that queue. It's not moving terribly fast and we know it could slow down even more, BUT I also wouldn't be too surprised if @formal apex got an offer to purchase within two to four weeks

Course that queue for EVGA could also go dark for month or start moving one second per drop

Yep, the uncertainty is certain. That and that you're best off trying other avenues as well as your wait is likely to be long. Iirc I am at 8:10 for that SKU 😫

Ah I got that one at 6:43, I'm really hoping to get a 3080 though

[formal apex]

Thanks for the info

[craggy sage]

is this worth it?

i’d be upgrading from a RX 580

[livid idol]

No. That's worth $400 at best.

[craggy sage]

pain

ty though

[cerulean rover]

good deal on the secondhand market would be something like 500 or so

it'd cost around 400$ to buy retail

[acoustic sierra]

Hello the RTX 3060 got in stock where I live yesterday for about 500 usd is it worth it

I know that the 3060 ti is a better buy but it's still out of stock

[timid narwhal]

The $500 price tag is high for what is essentially a 2060 super

[normal hawk]

I thought the 3060 was closer to the 2070 than the 2060 super?

1440p performance puts it at above the 2070 for most uses. Barely, but still. 🤷‍♂️ It's essentially a 2070 with more (but also slower bandwidth) VRam

[heady turtle]

Nah basically a 2060 super

Huh weird

[normal hawk]

Trading blows doesn't make it a 2060 super though, because then wouldn't the 2060 super be basically a 2070 by that logic?

[heady turtle]

I'd like to see a 1080p chart because you can really see any differences then

[normal hawk]

Even at 1080p all 3 compete for the lead

[heady turtle]

Hmm

[normal hawk]

2070 ahead in some, 3060 ahead in some. And vice versa

[heady turtle]

What's the source btw?

[normal hawk]

https://graphicscardhub.com/rtx-3060-vs-rtx-2060-super-vs-rtx-2070/

Dunno how reliable. Was just looking for a comparison between them all

I think just like with console GPU's some games will perform well on them and it's hard to rate them when it's that close. Those are all within like 1% of each other on 1080p lol.

[timid narwhal]

fair enough, but even if its the same as a 2070, the $500 is too much. If you are desperate, then go for it, but if you can wait, there are signs that prices will be coming down

[dreamy dragon]

NayZeee#2140 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[normal hawk]

St Louis Park, MN microcenter restocked GPU's. 3080s, a 3090, 3080 ti's and more :o

:0 they got a 2080 ti for 800$

[heady turtle]

:o

[normal hawk]

They are overpriced though.

3080 for 1,100, 3080 ti for 1,700 and 3090 for 2,200 lol

[heady turtle]

They the new msrps of 3080 and 90 tho tbh

[halcyon plover]

Yeah 3080s dont go below 1k

[normal hawk]

Gross

I'm looking at the 2080 ti though ngl 🤔 it's with a waterblock

[heady turtle]

Only useful if ya fancy a custom loop then :/

[normal hawk]

Ye of course

[vital pivot]

Once upon a time graphic cards were as bountiful as fruit hanging in a tree

Now it’s a barren landscape of a scalpers and bundles.

[magic wing]

could buy an air cooler thingie

[heady turtle]

Ehhhh they kinda meh

[magic wing]

Well some of em are

[heady turtle]

Wow, sounds beautiful

[magic wing]

not

[timid narwhal]

a poet enters the chat

[hot folio]

LMAO

[vital oriole]

Hey, least it brings em money lmao

[hot folio]

That’s from Microcenter

[heady turtle]

That looks like some ubm crap

I feel bad for places like that hiring people who don't know a damm thing about pcs

[vital oriole]

I know it's from microcenter

[timid narwhal]

What the actual f.....?

[vital pivot]

That is pathetic

Lol.

[brazen flame]

Quick question guys. Is $600 a bad price for a ROG Strix 1080Ti ?

[magic wing]

yes

[brazen flame]

What would be a good price?

Cause i know the market is messed up right now, so looking at the used market tells me nothing. Ebay is averaging 750-900 for that card

[karmic crag]

don't look at ebay for a good price for a card

i'd say 300-400 ish is a good price for a 1080ti ideally

[brazen flame]

Okay cool

[heady turtle]

Give the 1080 ti some slack, close enough to 3060 perf, I'd say 400-450 is decent in this market

[heady turtle]

That a gpu aio?

[lone pond]

Yeah, bought a 2080ti for $1k with a blower and it was loud af so I got this bad boy on Amazon and put it in

[heady turtle]

Nice

How does it do?

[lone pond]

It’s kept it down below like 40c if I remember right, with an oc and is silent so I’d say worth the money so far

[heady turtle]

Nice

[lone pond]

Easy to install as well

[heady turtle]

That's good

[lone pond]

Check out Working on the computer,,, Come hang out.. !discord !youtube https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1055239287

[dreamy dragon]

catwrestler#0041 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone pond]

^pretty sure that’s my crummy stream of the install lol

[normal hawk]

The image isn't loading for me. Internet is fairly slow

[lone pond]

It’s an aoi gpu cooler

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08L4YQJG3?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

ID-COOLING ICEFLOW 240 VGA... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08L4YQJG3?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[normal hawk]

Won't fit on a 30XX series huh?

[heady turtle]

Nice looks fairly decent

[lone pond]

I don’t have one so I’m not sure,

[lone pond]

Looks like the mos has to be on the right, some of the comments ask about 30xx series and the reviews seem mixed. It did not come with specific 30xx series brackets I remember but they might be the same spacing as the 20xx idk

If your looking for aio on a gpu nzxt has a bracket to attach a cpu aio cooler to a gpu that may work

[heady turtle]

With the mem cooling issues with 30xx i don't think that would be great idea lol

[normal hawk]

True

🤔 I keep entering for the 3060 only because it's smaller than my 2070 super lol. Can put it in a tiny case easier

[heady turtle]

Lol

[normal hawk]

The case i have from Silverstone fits my GPU, but it blocks the HDD bay so i limited my expandability.

[calm prawn]

Should I go for a $150 970 or a $200 1060 3gb, it will be used for minecraft and forza horizon 4 mainly

[heady turtle]

970

Any day

1060 3gb is bleh

[heady turtle]

970 beats it lol cuz 1060 3gb and 6gb different dies or something lol

[vital oriole]

ya

970 better than 1060 3gb

[clever pagoda]

Is a gaming laptop with a RTX 2060 for 900$ worth it?

[warped ravine]

What laptop?

[clever pagoda]

I'm not sure the name

Possibly msi

[warped ravine]

I guess it depends on what else is included as far as specs go as well as condition.

The 2060 is decent for gaming though.

[clever pagoda]

It'd be brand new

[normal hawk]

Guys, i need to watch for liquidation sales.

[warped ravine]

Id say go for it, only thing new ive seen thats around that price is a Dell @clever pagoda

[normal hawk]

Wanna link to this refurbish?

[warped ravine]

Thats actually nice

[normal hawk]

https://www.directliquidation.com/auction/lenovo-81uh00c1us-legion-y740-15irhg-15-6-fhd-i7-9750h-2-6ghz-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070-max-q-8gb-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd-win-10-pro-iron-grey-certified-refurbished/

[grim frost]

Lenovo makes decent laptops

[normal hawk]

It's a refurbished laptop on a return. At least it's not one of the untested ones though lol

[grim frost]

Not desktops though they suck now

[normal hawk]

Been scrolling through the website for a while

Mostly laptops and office pc's

Lots of monitors though and games.

I might get a pallet just for fun when i get home. 🤷‍♂️

[warped ravine]

Ive never owned anything Lenovo so I dont have an opinion lol

[normal hawk]

Same.

But the specs look nice

[warped ravine]

My wife has an MSI GS75 Stealth, the 64 GB with 2080 Max q

She loves MSI for some reason lol Im more of an ASUS guy

I agree on the specs tho, cant beat the price too

[hot folio]

The 7i desktops are pretty good last time I bought one a few months ago, 1600 for a 2080 super and 10700k with 32Gb of ram

[grim frost]

Sorry really meant low end desktops

[hot folio]

Ahh yeah that’s true

Not as bad as HP or Dell tho

[warped ravine]

Only real negative thing ive heard about lenovo was their issue with bloatware, but that was years ago.

[peak night]

whats the latest version for amd adrenaline

[magic wing]

Hp is ok tbh

[acoustic ginkgo]

I had an MSI laptop that served me well for five years. I retired it because it got old and the screen stopped working.

[magic wing]

21.6.1 iirc

[peak night]

thanks

[acoustic ginkgo]

At some point I might take it apart to remove the hard drive and SSD.

[clever pagoda]

What exactly does refurbished mean? isn't it not gud quality?

[lone pond]

My gpu is refurbished and it works great

[clever pagoda]

Do you know if they'd ship to guam?

[peak night]

I think it means it was broken or something was wrong with it and they fixed it and sold it back

[clever pagoda]

so the laptop should be good than?

[peak night]

I guess yeah but maybe get warranty because there was a problem with the device before you bought it

[slim vessel]

I'm trying to figure out the difference between the xfx speedster merc319 and the xfx speedster qick319. Only difference i see is model number, and the qick was released a month later for $20 less

[warped ravine]

@clever pagoda Refurbished could be as simple as it was a return and they just cleaned it up and factory reset everything. Or maybe it had some minor scratches, etc. Otherwise brand new and not necessarily damaged.

[acoustic ginkgo]

Could have been returned because whoever bought it changed their mind

[normal hawk]

Dunno. It says they ship internationally. You can check on the website. Might be pricey

[clever pagoda]

Wish they said what they refurbished on it

[astral mist]

City a few hours away from me has like 30+ 3070ti bundles in stock.

[halcyon plover]

What price

[astral mist]

P much MSRP

$1,029 CAD

[halcyon plover]

Oh thats good

[astral mist]

$1,189 for the TUF 3070ti with a 750W PSU

[halcyon plover]

Oh bundles

Yikes

Still good if you need the psu i guess

[astral mist]

Strix bundle is $1,249.99

[astral mist]

I did say bundles

[heady turtle]

Well that's strix being strix

[granite relic]

Hey everyone. I have an interesting question for you all, I want to make a clean white build, but a white gpu is way too much $$$$. So I thought if i simply paint the outer shell a nice white design, it would match for much cheaper cost. But my 6800 xt is the MERC 319 version. And I don't really want to paint that shell. If I buy a broken 6800xt from someone, or just the shell from an Asus ROG or an MSI branded 6800 xt GPU , will the electronics transfer into the new shell properly? Or are individual brand 6800xt cards custom fit to their cases? Thank you all for reading this, I look forward to your replies

[heady turtle]

Ehhh you can just take off the backplate/"shell" and then spray paint it but usually other models will not fit, no

[astral mist]

I mean it's not huge, it's still coming with a PSU

[granite relic]

Oof, alright then. I will keep a hold on that project then.

[heady turtle]

For a 3070 in cad? I mean it depends on the psu it comes with then tbh

[heady turtle]

Yeah either that or do a custom loop and find like a white gpu block or something lol

[halcyon plover]

White build with black gpu can still look great tbh

[granite relic]

Actually, a liquid cooled build is something I have yet to do... I think that is a better idea then painting the gpu. Thanks!

[astral mist]

$1,249 for the 3070ti Strix and an ROG Strix 750W PSU

[heady turtle]

Just an fyi that is gonna be quite pricey

Np tho, gl trying to find a white block idk how common they are

[heady turtle]

Not terrible cuz ik that prices are a bit wack over in Canada

[astral mist]

Yeah, if it was direct CAD to USD the 3070ti would be ~$800

[halcyon plover]

They cost like 200$

The White blocks

[astral mist]

But the 3080 Strix is $1,219.99, so at a $1,089.99 price point is hot garbage.

[lone pond]

poop

[heady turtle]

Sounds about right for the white tax

[sonic vigil]

I'm back in the game baby! 1400$ my own funds available, and atleast 700$ from my patreon, come hell or high water I am getting a card next month. 3080TI, 3080 if I'm desperate, and 3090 if I'm lucky

[astral mist]

3080 if I'm desperate
Wat

[sonic vigil]

I mean 3080TI is my target card

[astral mist]

Why? It's such a blatant cash grab.

[sonic vigil]

I'm a developer?

and 3090s are mostly out of my price range

[astral mist]

What do the 3090s cost there?

Compared to the 3080ti

[sonic vigil]

highway robbery prices (what you can find just on amazon etc) are 3k - 3500$ for a 3090

[heady turtle]

That's ebay prices

[sonic vigil]

3080TI is 1800 - 2200$ it seems

actually amazon

but same dif

not official sellers

[astral mist]

Here in canuckistan there's a $200 price difference between the 3080ti and 3090

[sonic vigil]

Can you actually buy it though?

The problem isn't "official" prices, it's lack of available cards

[heady turtle]

Amazon has scalpers too, basically eBay sellers

[slim vessel]

Well, there we go, $2435.87 spent on PC parts, without a case. (Already have the case)

[sonic vigil]

I know it does, but I'm getting a card next month, even if I'm paying scalper prices

[heady turtle]

Jeez 3080, 5900x?

[astral mist]

Scalper prices :(

What's your current card?

[sonic vigil]

none

no card for almost a year

it's ground my game development to almost a halt

I got sick of blender at 1 - 5fps

[astral mist]

Ah, makes much more sense now

[slim vessel]

Gpu wise, rx 6700xt, CPU Ryzen 9 3900x

[sonic vigil]

I came on a Canadian repatriation flight from Trinidad, back to canada, and transferred to my current home near Miami -- but I left my old gaming PC with my wife in Trinidad

that was in July last year

I thought hey, come October I'll buy a new PC

[slim vessel]

Amd Rx are actually close to MSRP and in stock

[astral mist]

Yeah, I thought that too

[dreamy dragon]

NotZoe#0943 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[astral mist]

Oop

[sonic vigil]

I wish I could recover what I typed to fix it, but ofcourse not in discord

[astral mist]

I mean it's a bot function, not built in.

[heady turtle]

You spend 2.4k on 3900x and 6700xt??

[sonic vigil]

So, I didn't have money available because STUFF happened, and couldn't get a PC til Dec - April, and ofcourse I've not been able to find a card

right, I mean discord doesn't have a show last typed message function though -- just last message on channel

[slim vessel]

3900x $469 6700xt $1019

[astral mist]

Yeah, I got most of my parts and was stuck with a GTX 1070 for a few months

[sonic vigil]

I'm surprised that's a filtered word... thems like total PG language rules

I'd have killed for a 1070

[astral mist]

Wasn't anticipating the market to poop itself

[sonic vigil]

haha yeah I don't thin any of us were

and when it started to, we all said -- okay, by January (feb, march) they are predicting availability to come back, so I just need to wait

[astral mist]

Calgary, 3 hours south of me has 30+ 3070ti bundles in stock for $1,189-$1,269 CAD

Bundled with PSUs

[sonic vigil]

I used to live there

[sonic vigil]

I very much would love to get the 3090, but I can't rememdber the last time, outside of shuffle, that I've seen one for 3k or less

[halcyon plover]

Hmm how is 6700xt 1k $ is close to msrp

[sonic vigil]

I'm actually going to do shuffles til July 10

[slim vessel]

Yea, I've been waiting a year plus now. Went from no money to no part availability, to scalper prices, to stuff near MSRP (gpu i bought was actually like $30 under MSRP)

[astral mist]

If it's AIB

AIB pricing is disgusting for Radeon cards this gen

[sonic vigil]

I wish we could get close to MSRP here

heck, I've had a "backorder" sitting with a vendor for a 3080 since.... March

[halcyon plover]

Oh , still you could get3060ti 3070 3070ti for less

[astral mist]

Only part I got scalped on was my 5800X, the week after I could have bought a 5900X for the same price

[astral mist]

I've had mine bacordered since December

[sonic vigil]

that sucks... I sadly think I'll be paying scalper prices at this rate

I'm just sick of waiting

[heady turtle]

Oooof that 6700xt pricing :/

[astral mist]

I feel that. I have a friend who picked up two 3090s in Huston

Was so salty

[sonic vigil]

What did they pay?

Oooof, that was a big thunder blast, and my power flickered

[slim vessel]

that card actually msrps for like $30 more

[heady turtle]

Ehh no it doesn't the msrp is 480...

[astral mist]

$2,229.99

With like 170 tax

[sonic vigil]

I wish I could find one for that

[slim vessel]

i pulled up the manufacture page for the card i got. MSRP $1059

[sonic vigil]

I'd GLADLY pay it

[astral mist]

He's reselling for $2,500 US, which is like $3,074 CAD so I declined

[sonic vigil]

There doesn't seem to be much in the way of brick and mortar sellers here in the Miami area

[heady turtle]

They straight up lying

[astral mist]

6700XT is NOT worth that

[sonic vigil]

isn't 6700XT the lower tier card (I'm not up on AMD)

[heady turtle]

It's between 3060 ti and 3070

[sonic vigil]

damn, no way that makes sense for MSRP then

[astral mist]

This is in CAD so multiply by 0.8

[halcyon plover]

Dlss and rt tho

Dlss mostly

[sonic vigil]

AMD launched their "response" to DLSS

it's far less sophisticated

[heady turtle]

Doesn't make sense at 1000$ either and no dlss or nvenc or rtx broadcast

[halcyon plover]

Yeah its not so good

But it might be in the future

[heady turtle]

There is rt on amd cards just equal to 20 series rt perf lol

[sonic vigil]

oh indeed, DLSS 1.0 wasn't great

yeah, their RT did bad enough that they chose not to talk about it when the cards launched

[heady turtle]

Yeah but it will work on any gpu pretty much even intel igpu

[astral mist]

Poor rhino got scalped hard :(

[sonic vigil]

indeed, and that is great for people with older cards, or garbage cards like my integrated

Rhino?

[slim vessel]

nah, no scalp prices.

[sonic vigil]

ohhh him

lol

[heady turtle]

Mega scalp prices bro

[astral mist]

Bro you overpaid for your 6700xt

By $200

[slim vessel]

its under msrp

and if only 200, that's fine