#graphics-cards

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kind spire
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also just realized this is the wrong channel to be asking this in lol

livid idol
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Maybe you'll get lucky and you have a bios version that will boot without an update. Even in that case you'll want to update it though.

heady turtle
kind spire
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do you think if I brought it to microcenter they would help me out? I dont have a 3000 series cpu to update with

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the cpu that came with it is a 3600 but I already sold it off

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;-;

heady turtle
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Welp

kind spire
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maybe since it had a 3600 itll already be updtaed?

tender mulch
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Microcenter will do it

heady turtle
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Nope needs to be updated for 5000 series

heady turtle
kind spire
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I never booted the prebuilt, just stripped the stuff I didnt need/sold them and put it in my closet til I could get everything

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oh nice

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well they did turn on the prebuilt for me at microcenter before I bought it to ensure everything was working but ye

heady turtle
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Well yeah but it didn't need the 5000 series bios update to turn on with 3000 so might have might not

uneven wedge
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

I'd like an opinion on this build. the major factors for this build are
PCIE 4.0 ready
1 m.2 pcie 4 ssd
overclocking potential for the 5800x

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I have a vague and undefinite interest in high quality audio

tender mulch
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That's the wrong list link

uneven wedge
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hecc

tender mulch
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Honestly, you won't notice the difference between a gen 3 and 4 drive so save the money and get a Gen 3

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Otherwise looks fine if a little pricey

uneven wedge
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i mean if i'm not going for pcie gen 4 i might as well be using a b450

tender mulch
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Just saying that right now it's not worth the extra money

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You literally won't notice a difference except in a few niche cases

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OS lloading times, game loading times, all the same as Gen 3

uneven wedge
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any opinion on oc'ing a 5800x?

vital pivot
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Have good cpu cooling

tender mulch
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Just turn PBO on and leave it

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manual OC won't net you much

uneven wedge
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could I get a simple explenation of PBO and how to turn it on, what expectations to have when oc'ing memory, and how to match memory clock to cpu clock

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is the arctic liquid freeze 2 good cpu cooling?

coarse spindle
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yes

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arctic liquid is great

uneven wedge
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4 140 fans in this case gonna have this air schmoovin lol

forest stream
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1030

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i7

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18 gb ram

spare relic
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ok

ember pike
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Me too

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How tf you get 18?

fading ivy
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uhh

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hmmmm

ember pike
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3 sticks of 6gb?

fading ivy
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18 gb of ram just sounds wrong

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in every way

ember pike
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I didn't know 2x1 was a thing

magic wing
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I have a 256 mb ddr 1 stick

livid idol
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Laughs with 16 MB sdram

charred remnant
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looks over at my old desktop rocking 20GB of DDR3

candid torrent
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Got my delivery

compact musk
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omg i got gold on my desk, 2 1gb sticks of ddr3 1333mhz

magic wing
compact musk
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i couldnt even get rid of them for 5 for both, so they just sit on my desk

spare relic
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cut butter with them

compact musk
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ill make a peanut butter sandwich with it or something

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in the morning though

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i think its kingston ram

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wait nvm it says "unifosa" on it, wtf is that

magic wing
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LPDDR3, DDR2, and some DDR1

compact musk
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i have some ddr2 laptop ram somewhere and like whatever ram generation went along with pentium 3 idk

compact musk
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the one with pins, so old?

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wtf

magic wing
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Thats the old pentium 3

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From 1999

compact musk
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the pins are completely mangled but i think its up on my shelf somewhere give me a sec

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bruh

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i cant send photo then i guess

magic wing
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Dm me it

uncut valve
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Any1 can help me build a pc i can screenshare the pge in a call

magic wing
uncut valve
uncut valve
magic wing
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Ill be there in a few

uncut valve
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Oke

magic wing
uncut valve
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Call me when ur rdy

magic wing
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Aight

hollow dawn
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Have fun

charred remnant
main apex
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does it cost less than 38 3080s tho?

charred remnant
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It's significantly more energy efficient so it will be cheaper long term.

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Like based on the 2556W that's the equivalent of all 38 3080s only consuming 67W of power

main apex
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oh thats nice
it'll be interesting to see if it does actually reduce all the 3080s being used for mining

charred remnant
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It might not right away since crypto isn't super stable and it's a big upfront investment. But if ethereum goes back to rising it will make sense for them to dump graphics cards for an Asic.

main apex
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oh well atleast that means a bunch of cheap gpus will show up in the used market

charred remnant
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Hopefully, or they'll sell them above msrp used because they can🙄

main apex
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still better than paying what a new one costs imo for just a year old card at max

honest halo
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Someone on hws offered to sell me a 3090 for 2450$ is it worth it?

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Strix btw

alpine ocean
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Asic's make no sense to buy for ethereum with 2.0 possibly coming before you could get your return on investment.

drowsy kiln
honest halo
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If i did go for if i have a bigger problem

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Not sure how i can rearrange my case to fit a 320mm card

drowsy kiln
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Well if you cant fit it you can at least make $1000 of profit by selling it.

dreamy dragonBOT
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Sharksguy#8586 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

honest halo
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What

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In short i may scalp my 1060

undone badger
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@honest halo no

honest halo
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Hopefully the 3080 Ti launch goes well. I need a new gpu end of next month

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If i dont get something msrp im just gonna have to buy from a scalper :'(

brisk swan
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Hmmm. Im waiting around 5 month . Am i a impatient guy?

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😔

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Hmmm. And a lot of us got 5 gpus in 5 month.

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Yup thats true

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Im not going to buy anything from scalpers

brisk swan
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But who knows

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Yup

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We have to wait

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At the end of the summer if i dont get a card I will kill my self . Lolssadge

honest halo
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Been waiting since before launch to get a new card because because when i asked if i should get a 2080 Ti everyone said to wait. I waited and now the market is trash and has no signs of getting better.

midnight crypt
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should i get a 2080 or a 1660 SUPER

tender mulch
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Depends on pricing, both are liable to be expensive

midnight crypt
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i mean im not tryna spend all my money on a gpu

tender mulch
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I mean, current 2080 prices are $1000

midnight crypt
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i like the 2080 but its expensive, so i wanna know ifnits worth it

tender mulch
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Current 1660 prices are 400-500

midnight crypt
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if its*

tender mulch
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Not at the current pricing, no

midnight crypt
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oh alright

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thanks

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what about a used ine

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one*

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how much would it cost

tender mulch
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I quoted used prices

loud flare
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whats the best cheap ram to buy to upgrade my CP desk top any Sugestions?

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i like hyperx i want to go from one slot 8 to to slot 16 any suggestions?

knotty vortex
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I think the CPU, Mobo, and memory channel is going to give you better responses, friend

ionic monolith
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my graphics card burnt out 3 months ago. i walked into my office to LITERAL smoke coming from my computer. i need a new graphics card, but due to the [CENSORED] [CENSORED] [CENSORED] bitcoin miners, i cant get one and have to use my mobo onboard graphics. does anyone have any tips?

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ive even come close to considering buying from a scalper, but i just cant bring myself to sink that low.

lone pond
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Yo is there any way I can scalp a 3060 for myself

ionic monolith
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im a college student taking 5 computer science classes, i have a 7 month old baby, and my only stress reliever is playing video games. im begging for help

hallow palm
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@ionic monolith are you on any servers for drops

ionic monolith
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yes

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but so are 500 other people and bots pull things before i can even add to cart

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no joke im in a discord channel waiting, i see an alert for a graphics card, i click the link, the page loads, and it says sold out

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i refresh to make sure im not loading an old version and it really is sold out. my internet is comshafts fastest, too.

hallow palm
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you should try for the bestbuy drop

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that is where i got my gpu

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used the saved items list on mobile

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and log on at 9am on thursdays and fridays and just watch it for 15 minutes

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its hard with school but i managed to do it during zoom as well

ionic monolith
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ok ill try that too. i have a couple items on my saved list for bestbuy

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i just randomly check some mornings because bestbuys site says there arent specific restocking days

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i dont understand why these major sites dont restrict to one per address. its easy to do and wouldnt hurt sales

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especially for something like this

hallow palm
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yeah thats true actually

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i wonder

ionic monolith
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maybe i could code my own bot that scans a list of URLs for the button to not say "SOLD OUT"...

sacred tendon
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Hello! Sorry to bother, but does anyone know the name of the stands to hold up graphics cards in a pc case? I forget the exact name and when I type it into newegg I only get the rgb ones for $60. Thanks!

spare relic
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Bracket

sacred tendon
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You're a lifesaver, thank you

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I'm looking more for the pole stand with the adjustable platform but yes

ionic monolith
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ahh ok

heady turtle
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But sucks yeah

ionic monolith
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lol. id say you got it backwards. there are companies that are entirely based on mining bitcoin and have spent millions buying them en mass. search tiktok for #miningrig

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plus you have the scalpers who want to sell to miners and people who are trying to build their pc

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theres nothing wrong with mining bitcoin. it just sucks that theyre getting their third or fourth gpu while other people dont have 1

brisk flame
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mining bad

spare relic
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mining bad

charred remnant
# ionic monolith lol. id say you got it backwards. there are companies that are entirely based on...

But they're not really even mining bitcoin anymore its so hugely unprofitable, and even then larger operations will end up using ASIC's since there more power efficient and faster. Ethereum is the bigger contributor now, and in a glimmer of good news there are at least ASIC's coming out for Eth but we'll see how big of a shakeup it makes with Ethereum 2.0 on the horizon idk how that will impact the new ASIC's hashrate or not

ionic monolith
spare relic
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Rather miners use gaming GPUs than asics

heady turtle
spare relic
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Waste of silicon, you can't buy an asic from a miner and game on it

charred remnant
tender mulch
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Pc demand up 26% end of 2020

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Thats huge

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And its only getting worse due tonworking from home and kids schooling from home

ionic monolith
tender mulch
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230+ million pc shipped last year

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And thats not counting parts

ionic monolith
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pc demand is not gpu demand. buying a prebuilt has **little ** (not "no") impact on gpu availability.

charred remnant
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But thats the thing is its an indication of how many more people are interested in pc's naturally there is also going to be a huge increase in parts being purchased'

ionic monolith
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so youre suggesting ppl buy a prebuilt then buy another gpu?

heady turtle
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And ik and you can check #building-and-recc-chat you'll see the amount of people putting a pcpartpicker list together it's a lot of ppl

heady turtle
charred remnant
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Yea that was why I started my new build, my last build was 6 years ago and I was like dang this looks like the time to upgrade

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Also I'm sorting through my old pc part manuals as I teardown my old pc and you know your graphics card is old when it is advertising PCIe Gen 3.0 and assuring you that it is still backwards compatible with 2.0

tender mulch
ionic monolith
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id like to see the data from major retailers like bestbuy and newegg to support this

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they can show the percentage of people who have distinct addresses vs people who buy >1

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you *could *be right. i dont think so, but newegg could prove me wrong

heady turtle
lone pond
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we live in a timeline, where 2060 base costs more than a 3060 base

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scalpers cant even scale their scalping correctly

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i have a suspicion that some of these 2000 series cards are plants to push 3000 series cards at inflated but less so rates

charred remnant
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idk or people go "well if people are desperate maybe they'll buy this stupidly priced 20 series card anyways"

lone pond
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little of both?

tender mulch
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:/ keep on with the group blame then.

lone pond
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dont shame us for disliking bot buying scalpers

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that should be a given issue

charred remnant
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I'm not really passing blame just saying that like pricing is just people trying to take advantage of things even if its illogical

lone pond
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ngl ive been tempted to just suffer and swap my 570 on the market for a 1030 and pocket the difference

spare relic
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What

charred remnant
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I mean this is the only market where my old gtx 650 isn't just ewaste

lone pond
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but i would let the market do the silly work of that with a listing on ebay

hybrid kettle
lone pond
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10% as of launch ya

charred remnant
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3060 is similar to a 2070 performance wise

spare relic
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3060 more like 2060v3

hybrid kettle
lone pond
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i get the feeling there might be some incremental gains with driver optimizations

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maybe another 2% or so

tender mulch
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more 2060s than 2070. It's due to cut down cores and smaller VRAM bus size

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not much you can do when those are limiting

lone pond
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how much do they OC?

tender mulch
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OC pretty well from what I've seen

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But gains aren't great

lone pond
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i could maybe get a little more out of them than they are supposed to get

hybrid kettle
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It’s hard not to justify getting a 3060ti over a 3060 when now a days the msrp are so close for most cards, and performance difference is massive

lone pond
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ah

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but can you find a 3060ti

hybrid kettle
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Yes

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Kind of

lone pond
hybrid kettle
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I have one

lone pond
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i havent seen a non sketch listing for one in months

hybrid kettle
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Droq got one

hybrid kettle
charred remnant
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Yea for the week or so when I had a 3060 I was really disappointed but was just glad to have something. Was ecstatic when I won my 3070 a week and a half later off shuffle so I sold the 3060 to a buddy for what the 3060 cost me to the penny

hybrid kettle
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They are very difficult now

lone pond
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my local ones are saying "we dont get them instore anymore only online"

hybrid kettle
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All best buys have said that since 3080 launch

tender mulch
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best Buy has been online only since just after launch

heady turtle
hybrid kettle
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I’ve heard rumors that sometimes if people cancel in store pickup orders that you can get really lucky and get one but idk

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Probably have better chances trying for drops

charred remnant
hybrid kettle
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Mine with it, or scalp it for like 300-400% profit

lone pond
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buddy of mine got one out the back of a microcenter

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so he claims

shadow dew
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How do I get a graphics card the one I have is failing

hybrid kettle
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And enter the shuffle everyday

shadow dew
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How do I do that

lone pond
shadow dew
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What is apu

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Sup?

lone pond
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that would be the amd cpu's with integrated graphics

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they honestly are pretty ok

hybrid kettle
heady turtle
charred remnant
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Yea I did shuffle daily for about 4 months before getting my 3070 give or take maybe a week and the couple days i forgot or they didn't have anything under $800

heady turtle
lone pond
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11th gen's brute force performance is neat but their driver support isnt there

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yet

heady turtle
hybrid kettle
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Intel dgpu uhd 760

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When

lone pond
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AND THEN THE WINGED INTEL CARDS ARRIVED

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COMING DOWN THE MOUNTAIN SIDE

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but for real i would give them a go if they turned out to be ok

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in spite of them being scummy all the time

charred remnant
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I would be concerned about their drivers. Like ik they already have their foot in the door with their apu drivers but like AMD has good cards but still suffers from lackluster drivers

lone pond
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i find that most complaints on amd's drivers forget the legacy of how bad they used to be

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most issues get resolved within a few weeks

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i have nightmares about ati

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their 9200se still haunts my dreams

charred remnant
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Yea idk I've never owned an amd gpu

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I went from intel apu's to a gtx 650 to rtx 3070

heady turtle
hybrid kettle
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As an example of bad drivers

heady turtle
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ahh never experienced that lol

hybrid kettle
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Me neither

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I’ve owned only one gpu in my life

lone pond
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and those were fixed in a few weeks

hybrid kettle
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There has only been one gpu in my house ever

charred remnant
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Yea and thats the thing was I just heard about drivers being bad but never anything more but maybe it also gets exaggerated as people pass it on

lone pond
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yea i had a specific ati card that was driver supported for 3 updates

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three

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so i had three months to have a card that worked

charred remnant
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oof what card?

lone pond
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9200se

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off the r200 gen

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but enough about agp cards

shadow shore
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I'm having some issues with my 1080 running at 100% capacity in GTA V with half of the estimated VRAM usage of someone with the same chipset running at double and about 40% GPU capacity.

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His settings are a lot more intensive than mine.

heady turtle
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what psu and cpu do you have?

shadow shore
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I have a i7-8700K, give me a second to look at my PSU.

halcyon plover
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100% gpu usage is fine and good

shadow shore
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Seasonic EVO 620W. The issue is me having very consistent freezes in game where GPU and CPU usage goes to 0.

lone pond
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i.e. turn it up

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if you are hitching and crashing, reinstall the game

shadow shore
halcyon plover
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Try ddu first

lone pond
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if it continues assume hdd failures if your entire rig doesnt power cycle

shadow shore
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Also have already reinstalled the game, and the game is on an SSD.

lone pond
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ok move it to other ssd

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test

shadow shore
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I moved it from an HDD to an SSD yesterday thinking the HDD was the issue

lone pond
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yeah see if its your drivers

shadow shore
lone pond
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dont let windows reinstall have that yourself

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they sometimes are behind

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best of luck

halcyon plover
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Do it on safe mode

lone pond
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^

shadow shore
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Will do, thanks guys. I'll be back in a bit after trying this stuff. Doesn't make too much sense to me why this is happening but oh well.

lone pond
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happens over time

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hell it could be windows shitting the bed as it do

shadow shore
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It's only a 2 year old card, but its not the nicest one

lone pond
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in the case of windows being the issue do a reinstall

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reinstalls dont even take much time these days

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i remember installing windows 98 and it was a 3-5 hour affair sometimes

shadow shore
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just to be sure, I install DDU, enter safe mode and run it, reboot, and the drivers will reinstall on reboot or do I use Geforce Exp to reinstall?

lone pond
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i reccomend you do the geforce exp

halcyon plover
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Yeah

lone pond
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but that isnt to say it will fail, its just to ensure i got the surest chance it isnt the drivers

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also run some synthetics after you do all this to ensure its actually the card

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this might be a localized game issue

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in which case check their support forums

shadow shore
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Sure. Is this workflow outlined in the tool or anywhere online?>

lone pond
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the guru link i gave you should have all the guidance you need

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And for synthetics i prefer kombustor

heady turtle
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So search furmark instead of kombustor easier to find

lone pond
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i like the expanded pool they got for oc comparisons

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it really doesnt matter i guess

fossil talon
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Yikes

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Also yes notebook as a monitor riser 👌

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Easy method, low costs. Smart

drowsy kiln
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Rip, I've got an RX 580 that I'm picking up next weekend for $145

torn anchor
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I have a 550

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lol

drowsy kiln
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Nope, OfferUp

gritty yarrow
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what are the safe temps on a msi ventus 2x oc rtx 3070

tender mulch
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Anything under 85-90

vernal needle
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Bleh, Gonna be october before I can even think of getting my 3080 :/

charred remnant
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I mean just keep trying shuffle, somebody wins

vernal needle
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Shuffle doesnt apply to me

charred remnant
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oh oof

blissful roost
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I'm not sure what Graphics card this exactly is

drowsy kiln
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Send an image?

charred remnant
blissful roost
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They're uploading, (internet lag)

drowsy kiln
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Yea, upload speeds to be slow lol

charred remnant
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that's fair

blissful roost
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It was from a pc i bought on Craigslists, but decided to build one myself

lone pond
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Hello

vernal needle
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You want us to do what?

drowsy kiln
blissful roost
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H120405677

vernal needle
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What do you mean?

lone pond
vernal needle
lone pond
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There is no way he can get one at msrp

tender mulch
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lets not and say we didn't

lone pond
tender mulch
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I got one

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So can you

vernal needle
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Unless your Canadian.

lone pond
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so i mentioned my suspicions on this yesterday but a guy on twitter found that 5 companies were under one guy's name to force the searched price of gpu's from the last three years to go up

vernal needle
lone pond
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so he could push other cards

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ones he has stock of

drowsy kiln
tender mulch
drowsy kiln
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Was going to guess some old HD card

tender mulch
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AMD HD7850 is the gpu

blissful roost
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Thank you y'all, I appreciate it very much! : D

lone pond
vernal needle
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As am I. Unless you backordered a GPU months ago, your kinda screwed.

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LInus's verified Actual Gamer program is your only hope.

drowsy kiln
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Yea, getting GPUs for MSRP is so difficult. Just gotta wait it out.

lone pond
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Well he kinda needs a new pc

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For school and gaming

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He has a gt 740

vernal needle
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Ive had a TUF 3080 backordered in January. Gonna be till october before it gets shipped. maybe

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Welp, Hes stuck with the GT 740 then

lone pond
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But is there any way he can scalp one

vernal needle
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Not legally, and thats where we will leave it

lone pond
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Oh

drowsy kiln
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Well he can buy them from OfferUp and Facebook Marketplace. Easiest way to get them

lone pond
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Rip

drowsy kiln
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Well yes, but that's how it is sadly.

lone pond
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Is there any good prebuilts with 30 series that are good

lone pond
vernal needle
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PowerGPU might be someplace to look into for a 'prebuilt'

drowsy kiln
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Granted I don't look into prebuilts much

lone pond
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Ok

lone pond
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with a 3060

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Ok

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bout 1200-1300

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Ok

drowsy kiln
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You can always check r/hws as well chance something shows up on there

vernal needle
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I think your probably stuck with Rocketlakes iGPU being your best bet :P

drowsy kiln
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Ofc, r/hws is a subreddit where people sell their hardware.

lone pond
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Ok

drowsy kiln
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It's very possible to find deals on OfferUp/FB Marketplace tho just this morning got an RTX 2080 for $350

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Just gotta do some looking around for the good deals

lone pond
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K thanks

lone pond
drowsy kiln
lone pond
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all i see for a good price is apu

drowsy kiln
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Well an iGPU and APU are both built into your CPU.

lone pond
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im not confused sir

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i was hinting that the amd lineup performs better for the price

drowsy kiln
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I'm confused now

vital pivot
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What’s so consfusing

drowsy kiln
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Idk, he seemed confused, but wasn't confused. But I thought he was confused honestly who knows.

vital pivot
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Now I’m confused

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Ha is

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Thanks.

drowsy kiln
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Your welcome

karmic crag
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usually offerup is loaded with scams

coarse spindle
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OfferUp my hood

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Honestly mainly idiots there

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Some scams

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But as far as local listings go its my go-to. Big user base and easy to understand

spare relic
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craigslist shipping

covert forge
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Can sum1 tell me what DLSS does?

spare relic
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upscaling using ai

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the image is rendered at a lower res and then the ai fills in the details

vital oriole
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^

spare relic
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it's pretty neat tech but only applicable for RTX 20xx and newer nvidia gpus

lone pond
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its more of a patch imo to the actual issue of how they do rt

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i feel like they jumped the gun on pushing that tech out so early and AI isnt saving them

vital oriole
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DLSS 2.0 is basically magic tho

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First iteration sucks

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Also it's best to push it now than later tbh, forcing people to adopt it more and more

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Then we'll have good stuff later

lone pond
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true but i give it another generation before i will buy cards for that

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even if saying that gets reviewers blacklisted by nvidia

drowsy kiln
lone pond
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i have a RTX 2070 Super should i get a 240hz Monitor?

drowsy kiln
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Most people that I've talked to can't tell the difference between 144hz/165hz and 240hz, up to you but unless your planning to be a pro eSports player unlikely that 240hz will really help you in-game.

dull crystal
#

Do you think that a rx560 will be enough to game?

heady turtle
#

What res? And details? And what games?

fading ivy
#

i would do the same but the nearest microcenter is 5 hours away

idle slate
#

i was pretty close on the amazon 3090 drop this morning but I held off cuz I really only want a strix one and it was evga.

fading ivy
#

OOf

idle slate
#

had it in cart tho

#

backed out

fading ivy
#

oof

drowsy kiln
#

When is the restock? I've got a MC like 30m from me.

karmic crag
#

i haven't seen any people with this sentiment

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at least personally

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i think everyone knows how awful the current market is

drowsy kiln
#

See I know how bad it is but I also know how good it can be. I've made so much money by people simply not knowing what things sell for now.

karmic crag
#

?

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what do you mean

drowsy kiln
#

My current GTX 1070ti, got it for $200 and sold my RX 580 8gb for $450. Picked up an RTX 2080 for $350, sold for $850. Picking up an RX 580 4gb next weekend for $145 selling for $225-250, etc.

drowsy kiln
#

That's not scalping buddy. Selling for market rate and scalping are totally different

dense prairie
#

fair point

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where are you getting cards at that price

drowsy kiln
#

OfferUp and FB Marketplace mainly

dense prairie
#

i'd kill for some of those cards

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offerup in my area is hot garbage

drowsy kiln
#

Yea, it's really location based sadly

#

Vintage confused why you reacted with wuuut. You saying they similar?

green harness
#

"Selling for market rate" is a euphemism for scalping when the market rate is a scalper price

dense prairie
#

also true

drowsy kiln
#

Fair, but not like I'm intentionally buying cards at MSRP or slightly higher and selling for double that.

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I'm just buying for under market rate and selling for market.

dense prairie
#

cringe,

green harness
dense prairie
#

ban, lol

drowsy kiln
#

They are two different terms. Scalping and flipping are totally different.

green harness
#

It's certainly resourceful, but you shouldn't be surprised that people find it objectionable

#

Scalping and flipping go hand in hand there

dense prairie
#

damn, my dude is typing up an essay

drowsy kiln
#

Debatable. The people that I'm buying the cards and stuff from could easily sell for what I sell for what I'm selling them for they just don't know cost of cards.

dense prairie
drowsy kiln
#

To some extent. But comparatably there are RX 580 8gb selling for $700 near me, so me selling for $550 while market rate on eBay is well under what it is locally near me.

#

People are buying them too, the listings disappear in about a weeks time.

dense prairie
#

i thought you were picking up a 4gb sku

lavish otter
#

Selling something at a price that isn't as bad doesn't mean it isn't a bad price

drowsy kiln
#

I had an RX 580 8gb. I'm also picking up an RX 580 4gb for $145 and selling for like $225 at max

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580 4gb sell for $300+ near me as well so I'm easily undercutting everyone else.

dense prairie
#

my friend snagged an rx 580 right before scalper prices hit

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it was some garbo msi armor or smthn

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but he still got his card

drowsy kiln
#

I ask about mining and most don't even know waht it is

dense prairie
#

every gamer knows what mining is

drowsy kiln
#

Most of my cards have gone to like 10 y/o kids on average looking to play Fortnite/Warzone cause their favorite YouTuber or whatever plays it

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Doubt they know about mining

late haven
#

does anyone have any alternatives to a gpu backplate

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im tired of seeing the ugly pcb

dense prairie
#

what kind of 10 year old is coughing up $850 for a gpu

lavish otter
#

So you are scalping products to kids

dense prairie
drowsy kiln
#

It's not scalping, it's simply flipping

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Two seperate terms xD

green harness
dense prairie
drowsy kiln
#

And I'm selling for under market rate near me so giving them a better deal than anyone else is offering.

late haven
#

yeah but theyre expensive asf

dense prairie
late haven
#

can i use electrical tape or smthn

lavish otter
#

Hew hew hew, I'm selling a product for an extremely high price but you can't call me a scalper because it isn't as high as other sellers. It is like stealing candy from a baby hew hew hew, more like kids NYEHE

dense prairie
drowsy kiln
#

Clearly can't explain the difference of flipping and scalping to people that don't flip pcs. They are definitly different; every single card has been sold in a full system. Most recently sold a system

R5 2600, RX 580 8gb, and 16gb ram sold for $625. I bought the cpu, mobo, and ram combo for $125 so the GPU I sold for "$550" in reality that combo should go for way closer to $250 or something so GPU was more like $325.

dense prairie
#

cringe

green harness
dense prairie
drowsy kiln
#

In 2019 you would pay ~$570 for a 2600, 16gb, and RX 580 8gb system xD. Granted we're 2 years from that now but pricing is horrible.

What else do you want for $625? I'll listen if you can somehow make a better system for $625 here in 2021.

drowsy kiln
#

Can't say something without backing it up. So feel free $625 budget make a system better than a... I wish you good luck, feel free to @ me if you succeed.

Ryzen 5 2600
B450 Motherboard
16gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz
RX 580 8gb
550w 80+ Bronze PSU
512gb M.2 SSD
CoolerMaster Masterbox 5 Pro

dense prairie
#

bet

drowsy kiln
dense prairie
drowsy kiln
#

Forgot to add uno moment

dense prairie
#

and i assume that adds to price then

drowsy kiln
#

Ofc, I paid $595 total for the system and sold for $625. So profited like $30 but also was able to save someone ~10 hours of their time (about how long it took me to find deals, pickup deals, and build the system).

dense prairie
#

can i use parts i have on hand for this list

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because i got a 2x8 kit of ddr4-3200 for $62 before the ram spike

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still new in-box

drowsy kiln
#

Yea, ofc. Whatever deals you can find or already have.

#

Paid $55 for the kit I used iirc

dense prairie
#

so you bought the whole system for $595?

#

he said 595

drowsy kiln
#

Said I bought the CPU, Mobo, and Ram for a total of $125

#

Not entire system, entire system was $595 and sold for $30 profit ($625)

lavish otter
#

Ah, I see

dense prairie
dreamy dragonBOT
#
mcg_mm8#6969 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

dense prairie
#

wrong link

#

probably could've added my used vengeance lpx and valued it lower

drowsy kiln
#

If somehow you can get an RTX 3060 for $390, props to you. Haven't had any luck getting 30 series cards yet.

dense prairie
#

i have one in my room rn

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not in my gaming rig, i have a 3060ti in that

drowsy kiln
#

Yea, I've been unlucky there. So your at ~$750 (forgot case); and using an HDD or SSD? Dunno what alienware laptops come with these days.

dense prairie
#

can always make one out of cardboard

drowsy kiln
#

Yes, but if your selling a computer your need a case lol. I'm not selling something in cardboard

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I'm not even buying something in a cardboard case

dense prairie
#

frugality is frugality

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and it's a hard drive

#

it also came with an ssd, i could add that in and boot the laptop to hiveos off of a usb stick

lone pond
#

i did it

dense prairie
#

and i'm sure that i could go to a landfill or smthn and find a pc case

#

yard sale, whatever

drowsy kiln
#

Yea, no yard sales happening near me

lavish otter
#

Hehe, you can buy a Ryzen 5 2600 from China for 135 right now

dense prairie
#

i could probably go cheaper than this by winning auctions, but it is what it is

drowsy kiln
#

If I was lucky with 30 series cards would have had something similar. But alas haven't gotten any yet.

#

Auctions are gonna be tricky, tried a few they always went way too high to be able to make any profit.

dense prairie
lavish otter
#

On ebay too kekw

drowsy kiln
#

Yea, I wish. I've been in queues since they launched lol

dense prairie
#

sweet, shave $15 off the list

dense prairie
drowsy kiln
#

Yea, NA

dense prairie
#

and if i wanted to get sketch-tastic, i could go on aliexpress and get a bga to lga chip

#

wait

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i know, hold on

drowsy kiln
#

Well we will try for a 30 series for the next one. Getting an i7 5820k, X99 motherboard, and 16gb of ram for $65 and an RX 580 4gb for $145. Easily can get parts and sell for $400; that near me gets you like an old FX-4300 and RX 550 system.

dense prairie
#

its a really good unit

drowsy kiln
#

Yea, didn't question it cause I bought the 550w for $30

#

Assumed b-stock only way you can get that kinda deal really

heady turtle
dense prairie
#

well, b-stock and an affiliate code

heady turtle
#

What do you mean b stock

drowsy kiln
#

EVGA b-stock

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Tuesday morning flash sale iirc

heady turtle
#

That's not the psu they put in tho

dense prairie
# heady turtle What do you mean b stock

"B-Stock Products are units which may have small scratches, small dents, or noticeable use. B-Stock products are Factory Recertified to meet the performance and reliability of a new product of the same model. B-Stock products do not come with any optional accessories and only include the accessories required to use the product as listed below."

heady turtle
#

Ohh

drowsy kiln
#

Yea, gotta get the brain working there

dense prairie
#

and i got it a little while back

#

the thing even came with a psu jumper

drowsy kiln
#

Yea, I got a 600w from b-stock not that long ago for about the same price.

dense prairie
#

i am comfortable sticking a paper clip into my psu, tho, so i don't really need it

heady turtle
#

I wouldn't exactly call a w 600w a great psu considering it's a c tier but okay for price

#

Also assumes you can actually get a 3060

heady turtle
dense prairie
heady turtle
#

Wait nvm

dense prairie
heady turtle
#

I looked at b now w

drowsy kiln
#

Yea, he got a 3060 for msrp. So yea it does assume that you can get it for MSRP which based on my luck is 0 -> none

heady turtle
drowsy kiln
#

Yea, dunno if I would use a D tier PSU...

dense prairie
#

ok, one sec, i casn change it

heady turtle
#

Probs best one there is

dense prairie
#

i have the tier list pinned

heady turtle
drowsy kiln
#

Yet everything gets added eventually

dense prairie
#

fixed the list, got it lower than $625

#

and added a case

tender mulch
#

Aresgame poop. They buy good reviews XD

drowsy kiln
#

But a 4650g is no where close to an RX 580 8gb in performance xD

#

Oh wait GForce now

drowsy kiln
#

But that's $10 or whatever a month or you can only game for an hour and then have to get in queue for a system again

heady turtle
#

Yeah 10$ a month, so lets say you're unlucky and have to wait 2 years that's 240$ added on to pc price

lone pond
#

and lots of latency unless you got high speed wifi

dense prairie
#

it's better than paying scalper prices

lone pond
#

and it kinda comprimises on image quality

heady turtle
drowsy kiln
#

Yea, no eSports at least well

lone pond
#

but i will say even a 1030 is a better option

heady turtle
lone pond
#

granted that its the ddr5 variant

lone pond
dense prairie
#

you can play esports titles regularly, since most people play with low settings for max fps

drowsy kiln
#

Mhm, I'm picking up an RTX 2080s for $625 trading for an RX 5700-XT (I'll sell for ~$500) and a GTX 1050ti. While I'll loose a bit of investment, friend is running an RX 460 rn gotta give the man an upgrade.

#

While $125 isn't great for a 1050ti it's better than hard scalping a 5700-XT for $600+ (they go for ~$1000)

dense prairie
#

$125 is amazing for a 1050ti, especially right now

drowsy kiln
#

Not when I can get an RX 580 4gb for $145. But it's still not bad no

#

But it's a worthy upgrade from an RX 460. I'll take the 460 and use it in a system. Clearly not sell the pc as a "gaming pc" but if I can get another R5 2600 it can play Apex even at ~60 fps, so very playable.

lavish otter
#

You can always get a 2600 cheap...if you buy from China

drowsy kiln
#

Yea, but I can get it cheaper if I find it locally. $125 total for CPU, Mobo, and Ram granted took a long time to find that deal still found it

vital pivot
#

Bleh. The shuffles suck and I ain’t afraid to say it

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Edited the rest of my statement.

#

🙂

polar star
#

has the miners calmed their tits yet so i can buy a 30 series?

vital pivot
#

If it was a clean shuffle I’m all good

#

No porsa

polar star
#

oof

vital pivot
#

All the coins on the market are going back up

lone pond
#

Best chances for a 30 series or 20 series for decent price?

tender mulch
#

20 series cards discontinued

#

So those will all be used at whatever the market will bear

lone pond
karmic crag
#

they've been meh recently

drowsy kiln
#

Yikes, yea shuffle isn't looking good today

hybrid kettle
#

3060 with 700 dollar monitor stonks

#

Yeah but average person getting 3060 doesn’t want 360hz monitor

#

That’s probably the entire rest of the budget for their pc

dawn plover
#

cringe

tender mulch
#

There's another choice too

green harness
#

I'd rather get a monitor personally, could actually use it for a dual monitor setup. Would be nice if they gave choice though

hybrid kettle
#

Turns out not many people want 700 dollar 1080p monitor

#

Why is there a ek 3070

#

😐

#

What company decided to block a 3070

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And sell it

vital pivot
#

I was talking to my wife on the phone when i pulled up the shuffle

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I told her they now had monitors in the shuffle

hybrid kettle
#

Bruh anyone who is getting a custom loop is probably going to try to get a 3080 at least

tender mulch
#

I mean, a few people here have asked about waterblocks for 3070's

vital pivot
#

With a asus strix 3090 and monitor. She said. Let me guess. $3k

#

lol

#

If they make anything for a GPu it will sell

hybrid kettle
#

Especially cause significant majority of prospective 3070 buyers are going to keep it air cooled

green harness
lavish otter
#

If there is a market for it, they are going to sell it. Like a 3080 ti Distraught

lone pond
#

Bruh if I get selected bet

fossil talon
#

you know I'll be going for 3080ti

lone pond
#

i already have a custom loop

#

why not upgrade the 2080 in it?

vital pivot
#

Heh

hollow dawn
#

I have in my hands a graphics card ASUS Phoenix 1030 3gb showing just a black screen

#

Does that means that is completely dead ☠️?

#

Fan do spin btw

lavish otter
#

Did you try a different PCIe slot?

hollow dawn
#

Yes

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All ports

#

Power

#

And monitors

#

I guess it is dead 🤔

lavish otter
#

Hmm, different cords too for the output I am guessing?

hollow dawn
#

Ye

lavish otter
#

Sounds borked to me, but I have little experience with diagnosing problems with gpus other than trying simple fixes, so I am not the best source to rely on. Is it still under warranty or did you get it ages ago?

hollow dawn
#

It’s old

lavish otter
#

Yeah, it is probably a dead card and you might have to replace it. A bad time to die too, cards are still expensive. Question though, do you mean a 1030 2gb or 1060 3gb? The Phoenix 1030 didn't come in 3gb cards

heady turtle
#

VAG drop :o

hollow dawn
#

Lol yes it is a 1060 3gb

#

Lmao

lavish otter
#

I found one on Newegg for 900 dollars kekw

charred remnant
#

Not only that unless you're running csgo I'm not sure you can even do 1080p 360hz that easily on a 3060

glacial rune
#

wow, gotta love the 1200$ rtx 3080 paired with a dookie monitor :)))))))

woeful perch
#

lol

charred remnant
glacial rune
#

lol, 1200$ for a 3060 and 360hz monitor, t h e s i n g l e W O R S T combo ever

charred remnant
#

Yea when your monitor is more expensive than your gpu

glacial rune
#

xd, thats what i was thinking

#

imma just stick to microcenter from now on

#

and a 3090 with a 1080p monitor

charred remnant
#

I sorta feel like asus is being borderline malicious, like they had one of the steepest price hikes significantly beyond the cost of the tariff and now are creating outragous bundles that make no sense to buy and only selling in bundles

#

In fairness it is a 360Hz monitor so for people who are into that a 3090 ensures you're more likely to actually make full use of that

lone pond
#

Newegg is a step below ebay when it comes to pricing

#

Im positive newegg gets 1 card every three months and holds these fake shuffles just to get traffic to their site

vital pivot
#

Nah

charred remnant
hybrid kettle
#

There’s no way there only one card

#

They created shuffle system so they didn’t have to do the drop system where bots were favored

idle slate
#

subtly think its also a way to move hard to sell inventory lately too (looking at you gigabyte mobo/psu combos)

charred remnant
#

Yea I do think the bundles are kinda a mess. But yea, shuffle is legit. I won a 3060 and then because I really wanted a 3070 kept entering and won a 3060 a week and a half later and I sold the 3060 to my buddy for exactly what I paid after shipping and tax

brisk pecan
#

Anyone here know anyway to get a reasonable price on gpus in South Africa (like 40% mark up max)? Like any stores if i do get lucky and manage to find one in stock it doesn’t cost 900 usd for a 3060?

glossy junco
#

I feel like it's dependent on how much you've spent with Newegg. Honestly I don't usually get computer equipment on newegg. Mostly amazon because of how easy and convenient it was.

charred remnant
glossy junco
#

Hmm. Well I've been browsing a lot since the GPU shortage... I need to upgrade my 970

idle crow
#

can someone pls explain to me what those brown lines are i’m trying to sell the card but have no clue what this could be

#

i think i found the culprit this is a backplate from v1 tech and i think the rgb lights did smth to the color and have no idea if this effects the cost of gpu

glossy junco
#

Shouldn't affect its performance... so shouldn't affect its value

#

I'd bet personally

idle crow
#

i’m going to see if it wipes off prob not but i’m going to try

glossy junco
#

Honestly someone's gonna look at the card, look at the serial number on it and ask if it works and then buy it off you

#

Probably not going to be concerned with some markings

idle crow
#

should i not show the serial number right away or is it fine

charred remnant
#

Yea copper is gnarly stuff which is why a lot of time contacts that are exposed are gold even though its less conductive.

tender mulch
#

The heat from leds bleached the pcb

charred remnant
#

Was it the heat? I figured it was from what looks like copper on the led strips

#

^Also I'm sure if someone questions it you can show them the led backplate and they'll probably be cool with it.

tender mulch
#

Just the heat. Leds get hot.

night cliff
#

I won that Newegg shuffle but for my friend

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😤😤

alpine matrix
#

Hi friend thanks in advance 🙂 jk Gz for your friend

soft ginkgo
#

Slight flex

steel wolf
#

noice

#

not really a flex but noice

wary yarrow
steel wolf
#

lmao

#

i prefer my 3080 being water cooled

soft ginkgo
#

It’s just in the build I have now

#

Going into my new all water cooled build next week

steel wolf
#

did u pay retail?

soft ginkgo
#

I got super lucky. Paid $2k and got the whole pc w it

steel wolf
#

2k$ for A CARD

#

ummm

#

i mean i guess

soft ginkgo
#

Nah

#

Got this too

steel wolf
#

i guess the guy was an idiot

soft ginkgo
#

Motherboard is kinda old but eh

steel wolf
#

this is the card i got

soft ginkgo
#

He had to get rid of it ASAP Bc of medical expenses

#

Dudes having surgery like next week

steel wolf
#

oh wow

soft ginkgo
#

I hit the damn jackpot

steel wolf
#

ok understandable

#

yea i guess you did

soft ginkgo
#

I love 3080s

steel wolf
#

ill trade you for my 3080 lmao jk

soft ginkgo
#

I was looking for that or a 70 but stumbled upon the 3090 and couldn’t say no

#

3080 and some cash🤣

steel wolf
#

this is watercooled

#

bro

#

underload im not getting past 40c

soft ginkgo
#

My whole set up will be

steel wolf
#

how much cash

#

this card aint even a month old

soft ginkgo
#

Throw an offer

#

Mines not even a week old lol

steel wolf
#

i mean i got mine retail through evga

soft ginkgo
#

He works at Best Buy and was able to get it Bc someone got it on the drop but cancelled the order

#

So crazy

#

Oh damn that’s dope

#

Imma brb

steel wolf
#

i thought workers at bb arent supposed to get stuff like that

#

word to the wise tho always stay humble for your stuff

#

i tell my story so ppl know its possible

soft ginkgo
#

For sure for sure

#

Are you mining w your 3080?

steel wolf
#

my other one i was

#

not this one

#

before this one i had a gigabyte aorus master 3080

soft ginkgo
#

I feel like I’d be a fool if I didn’t use this 3090 to mine

steel wolf
#

water cool it first and make the Vrams are in part of that loop

soft ginkgo
#

Bet yeah definitely need to

steel wolf
#

mining will solely depend on the vram temps

#

the normal temps are a given

#

yea i might vibe with my 3080

#

my 3080 specifcally is extremely rare

soft ginkgo
#

yeah ive personally never seen one of those

steel wolf
#

but the core clock on my card sits around 2100mhz

soft ginkgo
#

how much was it if u dont mind me asking

steel wolf
#

845

soft ginkgo
#

oh thats not bad at all

#

have you made your roi yet

steel wolf
#

that was with the tarrifs discount

#

they gave me 90$ off

soft ginkgo
#

niceeeee

steel wolf
#

hell yea

soft ginkgo
#

whats your net prof monthly

steel wolf
#

im hesitant to mine on this card

fading ivy
#

😩

steel wolf
#

my backup card is a evga hybrid 2070 super

soft ginkgo
#

i had someone tell me I could mine upwards $500 monthly on this 3090

#

i was skeptical

steel wolf
#

i touched every card except a 3090

#

and the normal 3060

soft ginkgo
#

3060 old news

#

ti is good tho

steel wolf
#

i touched mining a little bit with the new 3080

#

i was looking at 13 to 17$ every 24hrs

soft ginkgo
#

damn thats dope

#

congrats bro

fading ivy
#

is there such thing as an rtx 3060 founders edition lmao

steel wolf
#

i also have 2 gaming laptops one has a 1070 and the other has a 2060

#

theyre mining

spare relic
#

mans making more than minimum wage bbnohappy

dreamy dragonBOT
#
colton#3872 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

fading ivy
#

smh

soft ginkgo
#

do you like amd gpus********

#

ruh roh

steel wolf
#

im at 251.43 on nicehash

#

wassup vintage lol

tender mulch
#

A single 3080 at 13-17 a day??

steel wolf
#

i knew you were gonna pop in eventually and yes

tender mulch
#

ON eth

steel wolf
#

BTC

heady turtle
steel wolf
#

idk what to use to mine ETH

heady turtle
# steel wolf BTC

Nicehash mines the most profitable coin, usually eth them just pays you in btc

tender mulch
#

That sounds really spoop

#

Literally double what it is on Nicehash right now

steel wolf
steel wolf
fading ivy
#

spoop

tender mulch
#

Sus

heady turtle
#

Why lol

tender mulch
#

Because I mine

steel wolf
#

my card is water cooled

tender mulch
#

I know what the rates are lol

#

Water cooling has nothing to do with it

steel wolf
#

temps have everything to do with it

tender mulch
#

Memory temps

heady turtle
steel wolf
#

exactly

tender mulch
#

But not even temps, it's clocks

#

memory clocks

steel wolf
#

and the temps with the clocks

tender mulch
#

You're saying you're getting double the payout listed on Nicehash

#

Quadruple what a 3070 mines

#

With a single card

steel wolf
#

if the program detects degradation in temps it will bring the overall mine process down regardless of what its showing

tender mulch
#

I know how it works lol

steel wolf
#

ok so why question it lol

heady turtle
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Still not possible to get 3x 3070 with a 3080 tho lol

steel wolf
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i promise you it was

tender mulch
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because that rate is so far out of the scope it's not funny

charred remnant
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If that's the rate you're getting mind screenshotting it?

steel wolf
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i wish i screenshotted it

tender mulch
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Best listed there is $10 a day

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That I could believe

heady turtle
steel wolf
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i was looking specifically at the 3080

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it shows 13 and then jumped to 17

tender mulch
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What program

steel wolf
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ofc rn its at 8

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nicehash

heady turtle
soft ginkgo
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Guys do you think the 3090 can run among us and minecraft? Serious answers only please and be nice 😦

steel wolf
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this chat was when it shot up i was talking to my buddy about it

tender mulch
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That explains everything lol

steel wolf
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and i got him his evga FTW3 card and he averages 13$

heady turtle
charred remnant
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that just means btc price spiked

tender mulch
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It was a peak that lasted about 8 hours

heady turtle
steel wolf
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why did u reply to urself

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;p

heady turtle
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Cuz i was continuing my statement

steel wolf
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i guess it did spike but

tender mulch
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It spiked big time

heady turtle
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Yep

steel wolf
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why would the minig process would change with the difference

charred remnant
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it wasn't mining anything more than usual, there was jsut a huge spike that made projections look huge

tender mulch
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Spike on April 19th

steel wolf
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makes sense

tender mulch
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If it was a short time thing I get it

steel wolf
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but even after the 19th i was vibing around 12 to 13$

tender mulch
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Makes way more sense than 13-17 regularly over time

steel wolf
tender mulch
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It was, until it dropped again on the 23rd

steel wolf
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hm

tender mulch
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Better to use the MH/s rate than the projected output in $$$

steel wolf
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where are u currently

tender mulch
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Should be about 90 MH/s, give or take

steel wolf
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just one machine?

tender mulch
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One 3080

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Is about 90 MH/s, give or take a few

steel wolf
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any overclock

tender mulch
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You can get them higher, I'm talking averages

heady turtle
steel wolf
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im asking if his card is overclocked

tender mulch
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GPU? No, Mem? yes

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Gpu is -512

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power limit 55%

heady turtle
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You overclock all cards for mining on mem

tender mulch
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Memory is 1200-1300

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YMMV but test all the settings

steel wolf
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which card do you have

tender mulch
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EVGA 3070 XC3 ultra

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3080 should be about the same

steel wolf
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im still learning

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i do have 2 other machines mining aswell

heady turtle
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I've a 3070 gigabyte gaming oc get +1300 on 120w -502

tender mulch
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Basically, any GPU mining, you underclock core by a bit, lower power limit and push VRAM as far as it will go without dropping blocks/shares

heady turtle
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Also called rejected shares

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Iirc 3080 doesn't drop core as much as 3070 or oc mem as much

tender mulch
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Not quite

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Start with -200 core and plus 900 or so mem

steel wolf
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im currently as 1400 mem

tender mulch
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And it's not rejecting shares?

steel wolf
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nope

heady turtle
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Hardly are you sure?

tender mulch
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Drop your core and power limit

steel wolf
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its sittign at 5%

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55%

heady turtle
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Btw did you mean 1400 or +1400? What are you using to overclock

steel wolf
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precision x

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+1400

tender mulch
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1400 is in the realm of possibility water cooled

steel wolf
heady turtle
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Ohh yeah forgot it was watercooled

steel wolf
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yep

tender mulch
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If that core clock drops the MH/s too much, bump it up to -250 or -200

heady turtle
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I wouldn't try-512 on a 3080

steel wolf
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then what

heady turtle
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-200 or -250 like vintage said

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Check for a while after every oc btw

tender mulch
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Test the power limit on the MH/s rate also, find the sweet spot

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Takes some tinkering

steel wolf
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so keep cranking it up

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or crank it down

tender mulch
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Find the core sweet spot first

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Then tinker with the power limit, somewhere between 55-70%

steel wolf
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keep in mind this is my dailey driver

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i have 3 monitors attached

heady turtle
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when you game just switch to the default profilr

charred remnant
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if you remember your settings you can swap between

tender mulch
steel wolf
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ok can you give a quick run down

tender mulch
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Save multiple profiles

heady turtle
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Idk if precision has profiles but that's a nother reason I like afterburner 5 profiles

tender mulch
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One for mining and one for gaming

steel wolf
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explain this for me