#graphics-cards

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lone pond
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yep

gritty notch
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it is literally such a downgrade

karmic crag
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3090 is peak gaming performance why are you upset

lone pond
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i still searching for 3060 xd

karmic crag
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yep

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same

gritty notch
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objectively garbage for anything that isnt no rtx no dlss

karmic crag
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we get it you hate amd cards lol

lone pond
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me too xd

gritty notch
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no such thing as a bad product

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just a bad price

lone pond
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its complate trashxd

karmic crag
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they're very weirdly priced

gritty notch
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theyre like $50 less than the nvidia stuff except on highest end

karmic crag
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3060ti is similar to 6800 in performance iirc but the 6800 is 579

gritty notch
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and they dont compete highest end because puny vram vs 3090

karmic crag
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ye

gritty notch
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spending an extra $50 for like

lone pond
gritty notch
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1/4 of the features nvidia offers

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is so worth

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like id pay $50 just for rtx voice

karmic crag
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lol

lone pond
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lol

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same xd

gritty notch
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but i also get rtx and dlss and good drivers

karmic tulip
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3090 is way OP nothing is even close to needing 24 GB of Vram

karmic crag
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exactly

gritty notch
tender mulch
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Rendering

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Not gaming lol

lone pond
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amd drivers are really trash

karmic crag
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3090 future proofs you for the next decade

gritty notch
karmic tulip
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4k ultra msfs over New York only uses about 12-14

karmic crag
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next few years

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i can't wait to grab a 3060 ti, hopefully an FE one too

gritty notch
karmic crag
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uhd 630 is pain

gritty notch
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now theyre somewhat catching up

karmic tulip
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Well, I guess it might be a value after a year or two. When the next flagship is 1999 msrp

gritty notch
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so we get good experiences again

karmic tulip
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Or higher

gritty notch
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new games will be able to push the 3090

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or vr

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i can see the vram being used in next gen vr

karmic tulip
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I hope resizable bar really helps fps

gritty notch
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because those arent aimed at poors at all

tender mulch
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Ray Traced VR, YES

gritty notch
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yess

karmic crag
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ooo

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minecraft rtx vr pepe3090

gritty notch
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raytraced vr is gonna be nuts

lone pond
karmic crag
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ye

gritty notch
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dlss in vr looking

karmic crag
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too bad 90% of people won't be able to afford it kek

gritty notch
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give us crazy experiences that like 10% of ppl can run

karmic crag
gritty notch
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depends

karmic crag
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why make something that only 6 people will buy and use lol

gritty notch
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keep it off consoles

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imo

karmic crag
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fair

gritty notch
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consoles ruin everything they touch

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world would be better pc only

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for the longest time games were optimized to load on a 5400rpm laptop drive

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hardcoded loading screens

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like excuse you i can push 5gb/s and youre telling me i have to sit through this loading cutscene because some pleb with a $200 console is the real optimization target?

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vr is cool and fun and groundbreaking because for the most part its pc only

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and that allows for intensive experiences

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if console touches it itll get dumbed down

karmic crag
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that's kind of what happened with cyberpunk

gritty notch
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yep

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it got kneecapped so people could play it on their consoles

karmic crag
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instead of ironing out the wrinkles in the pc version they were developing a game they KNEW couldn't run on last gen

gritty notch
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then they got in trouble because NOTHING from 2013 was gonna play that game

karmic crag
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why did CDPR even try to put it on base ps4

gritty notch
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let alone something with the equiv of a gtx 660

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like even the 780ti cant run it

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at playable fps

karmic crag
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it was very suspicious that they didn't allow reviewers to play on the ps4 and xbox

karmic crag
gritty notch
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they should have been like

karmic crag
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that's so funny to me

gritty notch
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sorry

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if ur hw is trash

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this isnt for you

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and just made it pc only

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i feel like if they did that half the backlash would be gone

karmic crag
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ps5 is = to 2070 super in terms of power, no?

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next gen consoles could have run it smoothly

gritty notch
karmic crag
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no i don't think it's that low

gritty notch
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1060 with some minor rt

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its like a 1070 at most

karmic crag
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ah okay

gritty notch
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like power wise its a 1060

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but theres just 1 optimization target for console

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so

karmic crag
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unrelated but i should've bought a pc case with preinstalled fans

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looking at that thumbnail makes me realize that i should've gotten the p400a instead of the p300a peepoSadSip

karmic crag
gritty notch
karmic crag
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lili.g*y

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great url @gritty notch

gritty notch
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thanx

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they expensive now

karmic crag
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wait which one is your desktop

gritty notch
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all of them are mine

karmic crag
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???

gritty notch
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but gravy is my gaming desktop

karmic crag
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YOU OWN ALL OF THESE?

gritty notch
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yeah

karmic crag
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your wallet must be on life support

gritty notch
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nah i just did very well for myself a while back

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and had the funds to spend on fun stuff

karmic crag
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64 gb of ram for the threadripper

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that's hot

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do you work in the 3D modelling field by any chance

gritty notch
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nope

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just vms

crisp ocean
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how much cringe is in here now

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not much goodbye

lone pond
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For FE your best bet is best buy

tender mulch
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ONLY bet is Best Buy

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They're the only one selling FE cards

karmic tulip
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I keep trying boys

tender mulch
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19th

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next drop

karmic tulip
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Can never get through the checkout with a 3080

tender mulch
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10-11AM EST

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When you hit Add to Cart and it says please wait, just WAIT

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DO NOT refresh

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When it turns yellow again, add to cart again

karmic tulip
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I have successfully checked out with every other FE card AFTER 3080 dies with a fat Sold Out sign

tender mulch
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oof

karmic tulip
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Keep a 3080 window open in case it restocks

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It never does though once I am sure that it is actually gone for good

lone pond
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Its only every 2 weeks

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should get a restock soon enough

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19th

karmic tulip
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I know this isn't a graphics card, but I am trying to get a ps5 too

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Almost scored a digital bundle on the newegg app last night

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I never see the graphics cards in stock

tender mulch
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7:30 PM is the magic hour

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EST

karmic tulip
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Wow I always though it was 7 or 8

tender mulch
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Between 7-8 PM EST is good yeah

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Usually closer to 8 PM EST

lone pond
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does anyone know where i can get a 3060ti for a reasonable price in the uk?

pine rapids
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wait vintage you know when they typically restock 3080s?

tender mulch
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WHo, Newegg?

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Can't tell you WHAT they restock, only when

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Twitter tells you what

pine rapids
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oh ok

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dunno if i wanna camp sites again lol

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the first few weeks after the 3080 launch was rough

karmic crag
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newegg barely does solo 3060 ti drops peepoSadSip

lone pond
karmic crag
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it's true

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even when they do it's in a power supply bundle

static rock
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and then with tier c psu

tender mulch
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Good 3060 explanation here, it apparently has a whole new GPU core in it. GA106. Also a good explanation to the extra VRAM, basically just a bone thrown. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06SY1EVcHK8

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dusk mirage
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can you remove the bundled item from the graphics card on newegg like PSUs?

karmic crag
karmic crag
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i mean it doesn't work, but they still do it

dusk mirage
karmic crag
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the power supplies they include in the bundles aren't great anyway

round valve
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what are the chances this 3060 comes in an itx size so i can toss it in my velka 3

crisp ocean
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50/50

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probably not if most 20XX cards didnt have an itx model

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nvm the velka is very small

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the 20XX has 3? itx cards so i would bet possibly but not right away

onyx shadow
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Anyone here use water to clean a gpu? I heard it builds corrosion over time

tender mulch
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No. If you use any kind of liquid, use Isopropyl alcohol, 90% or better

vagrant gate
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cause it does

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or a high quality cleaning oil

onyx shadow
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Forsure thanks

candid kindle
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anyone able to help wiht finding a 3080? ive been doing this since launch and I havent been able to get anytihng

gritty notch
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no

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glhf

crisp ocean
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easiest way, a microcenter near me had 3080s for a couple of hours

tepid zodiac
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3090 FE vs PNY 3090?

round crown
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fe

tender mulch
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fe

tepid zodiac
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realy? may i ask reasoning?

crisp ocean
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FE

tepid zodiac
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lol all FE

crisp ocean
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Pny worse cooling and silicon

tepid zodiac
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wow. fair enough

crisp ocean
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Actually cooling may be debatable

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But 100% worse silicon

tepid zodiac
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so preformance wouls be better on the FE?

crisp ocean
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Yes

tepid zodiac
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Ok, thx for all the responses!

crisp ocean
tepid zodiac
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Zotac 3090 vs 3090 fe?

winged granite
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if you can find one yeah

ripe lance
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Scored a rog strix 3080 white edition today!

round crown
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nice

rose mortar
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I sure am relieved that i managed to nab an ATI 5700XT , an Asrock vega 56 and even the ATI RX 580 before the Graphics card Price Structure went INSANE. I have yet to build the newest gaming system that will use the ATI 5700XT ,and install the 56 Vega . I sure hope these newest NVidia cards like the Nvidia 3070 become available and fairly priced , as i would like to nab a 3070 soon

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atm it seems to be sense-able to buy a completed prebuilt system with the NVidia 3070 than to purchase the rx 3070 alone. the prices for the a complete system is less then double the price of the NVidia RX3070 alone

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I already have a laptop with an NVidia 1060 and see no logic in adding a 1660 super to one of my current rigs since the 1660 series is just a better tuned 1060 which does not offer ray tracing

tender mulch
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IDK, got my 3070 for $550 MSRP last week

rose mortar
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in the good old days you could buy a great mid range graphics card for around $250... now the graphics cards are $500 plus for the same type of mid graphics capabilities

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Hey Vintage 🙂 you were lucky to nab a 3070 as all i see are "out of Stock" and i liked the $489 price on that MSI 3070 but they upped all the msrps

tender mulch
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RTX 3060, $325

round crown
gritty notch
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i wouldnt aim for a msi card tbh

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when evga is like

rose mortar
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where? and it is the Ti sewries right? because i have not seen a non 3060Ti as of yet

gritty notch
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right there

round crown
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evga is best

round crown
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followed by asus

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the 3060 isnt that good

tender mulch
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We don't know that yet

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no benchmarks

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It'll be less than the 3060TI yeah

rose mortar
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what happened to Gigabyte . they used to be my go to mobo and even their vid cards were great. now all i read is how bad gigbyte is

round crown
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evga, asus, fe, gigabyte, msi, zotac, pny

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thats my tier list

gritty notch
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zotac deserves bottom

round crown
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dont like pny

rose mortar
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I bought the ASUS 5700XT

gritty notch
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id go evga,fe,asus,pny,msi,gigabyte,zotac

rose mortar
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last year for $409 from the Egg

round crown
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evga, asus, fe, msi, gigabyte, pny, zotac,

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edits

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nah msi is better than pny

gritty notch
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have seen msi cards literally blow up

round crown
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and fe is good but i think asus deserves a second

tender mulch
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ASUS 3070 actually outclocked the EVGA FTW 3 3070

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by about 1% lol

round crown
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not much

tender mulch
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no but still

round crown
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evga warranty still better

tender mulch
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100%

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XFX used to tbe that way sadly

round crown
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does that 1% better oc really matter

gritty notch
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asus tells u to pound sand warranty wise

round crown
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xfx is trash

tender mulch
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Way back in the day

round crown
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their thermals are so terrible

gritty notch
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xfx has always been trash tier

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but had a good customer image

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because it was cheaper to have rly good warranty on garbage products

rose mortar
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the NVidia cards are great but NVidia has some seedy business practices that seem to have many reviewers outraged

round crown
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they branded their cards thicc

gritty notch
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than to just make good stuff in the first place

round crown
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like what

rose mortar
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buuut i still want a 3070

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and am considering a 4th system that will have the unreal 10600K I5 in it

round crown
tender mulch
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Just get a 3060TI

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only ~10% performance difference, if that

rose mortar
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inhave only 1700 8 core amd and a new 3700X amd cpus atm

round crown
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is it worth $100 for a 10% difference? nah dont think so

tender mulch
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I did

round crown
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but not anymore lol

tender mulch
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Of course I do, I have one

round crown
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well

rose mortar
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it was the Utube reviewers that were ranting about NVidias practices so just go to tou tube and see what they were ranting about..it was not about the speeds of the graphics cards but the selling practices

gritty notch
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everyone is shady

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sadly amd is complete ass in every way vs nvidia

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so

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not much u can do

tender mulch
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NOt the selling practices

rose mortar
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so true the entire planet is full of outraged Mankind, for one reason or another lol

tender mulch
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The fact that nVidia yoinked a reviewer because all they did was talk about how bad the card was

rose mortar
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i am back into the world that actually makes some sense atm , and that is rpg on our ARK Server

gritty notch
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literally 0 smart ppl got mad

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"we send u review samples and you refuse to talk about the features we market and only bash the card"

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"we are no longer sending you free samples"

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what about that is unfair

wispy cradle
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I have a question I recently bought and installed the red devil 5700 xt but whenever I go into a mildly graphics intense game it says my Radeon driver crashed and closes the game does anyone know how to fix this

rose mortar
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I am stuck atm in my latest build as i changed out all the 120mm fans only to discover that the replacement fans , though colorful, were only 12cfm fans. so i bought 57 cfm fans and must change all the fans again

wispy cradle
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Can anyone help me

rose mortar
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ahh the dreaded ati adjustments

gritty notch
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buy nvidia next time

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problem solved

wispy cradle
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Is there anything I can do

rose mortar
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is it the lower voltage and raise fan curve situation or is it a non complete removal of all older graphics card issue

tender mulch
wispy cradle
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I uninstalled them

tender mulch
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Did you use DDU though?

wispy cradle
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No

tender mulch
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Regular uninstall doesn't get everything

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Use DDU to delete all the AMD Radeon drivers

wispy cradle
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Yea when I did it it still said my drivers crashed

tender mulch
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Then try a fresh installation

gritty notch
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remove all amd drivers using ddu

rose mortar
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every piece of old graphics drivers must be cleaned out. what i do is a search for any and all of the nvidia or ati drivers then install fresh

gritty notch
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then install the latest drivers from amd's site

wispy cradle
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Ok

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Thanks

gritty notch
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then your card will only be half broken instead of fully broken due to drivers keeeek

rose mortar
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in some instances people have been told to use an older driver package..the good news is eventually the card will work unless a defective card was rcvd which is very rare

tender mulch
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This is why I dislike AMD gpu's, the software is oof, hardware is good

rose mortar
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i havge been gaming on gaming laptops with either the I% or I7 . currently using the I7 with the 1060 in it because i have no room in my game room to nuse desktops as my business was sold and inventory fills the room

gritty notch
tender mulch
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Ehhh, kinda

gritty notch
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lacking so many features that it cant even compete at all

rose mortar
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i been using the ATI cards since the vintage days of the 7500/8500/9000 lines and had great gaming for about 30 years

tender mulch
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pfff

rose mortar
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i even had the 4 meg voodoo sister card for the 3d effects..now that is old school

tender mulch
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Intel i740

rose mortar
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6870 , 7850, etc all been great but this newest line i have yet to hook up

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i am not a fanboy of anything i just lioke to help there be competition in the cpus and graphics cards

tender mulch
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If/When AMD improves their software side, I'm happy to jump ship

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Until then, all the issues I run into here are 5700XT. i wish i was joking

rose mortar
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i like to build fast midline gaming rigs and really enjoy all product brands that best serve the qualities

gritty notch
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i hope amd will be able to compete

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i dont like nvidia

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but its not even close

rose mortar
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my desktops are all amd atm whilst my gaming laptops are all NVidia/Intel

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the ATI 6800 and 6900 series are surely competitive

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the ati 6900 is a beast and it beats the 3090ti in many instances says the reviewers who have the luck to have both high end cards to compare stats

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24 gigs of vram in the 6900 is insane but i would never spend that much on a card regardless of how much i can or can not afford them..it is the principle of the thing

candid kindle
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you have multiple pc's??????????????????

tender mulch
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No RT, no DLSS, 24 GB RAM isn't needed.

gritty notch
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lmao that person would die if they saw my speclist

tender mulch
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Yeah, lemme open my closet of spares

rose mortar
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i have 3 new rigs and 3 laptops at all times.. plus a ton of older 4 6 8 core retired gaming rigs..i never seem to get rid of any of my builds . i like to save them..i still have my first vintage win 95 pent 1 rig from the 90s

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its so odd to tutn them on and see how unable they now are

candid kindle
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thats actually cool

rose mortar
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486 was just replaced by the pent when i got into computer gaming

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my friend bought a win 3.1 486 rig while i got the win 95 pent 1 166 pent 1 chip

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err it was a 133 pent chip which i later upgraded to the 166

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lol it still has the voodoo 2 meg sister card that gave it 3dl i think it was called 3dl been 30 years lol

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well i sure hope you all have a good day in cpu land . good to chat with you again VintageRacer.. catch you all another time

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I am pleased to have found a group of computer intellectuals to discuss the aspects of computing etc..be well

tender mulch
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👍

jolly sandal
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If I had the chance to get a 2080 ti for 700 cad.. should I take it?

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650 would be a better price, but this guy is selling for 700

gritty notch
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how much is that in real money

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like $15?

jolly sandal
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wdym?

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it's about 550 USD

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xD

gritty notch
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offer like 500 us for it

jolly sandal
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It's definitely not worth over MSRP for 3070 FE

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(680 CAD)

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But I'm not sure

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I suck at spending money

hearty ice
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AMD drivers with 6000 series is fine. 5700XT was just a dumpster fire

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Also RT and DLSS aren't needed for high refresh rate gaming

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DLSS is actually very poop when it comes to fast-paced games because it is inherently TAA

jolly sandal
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^

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Or I could get a PNY 1070 ti for 290

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About 230 USD

lone pond
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This is what I will buy

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I did my research

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A core i7 10th gen

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and 3080ti

dusk oasis
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intel 😳😳😳

hearty ice
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rocket lake would be "fine" if you don't need the cores and can deal with the heat...

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but alder lake also soon™️

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(probably gonna be a paper launch)

rocky geode
hearty ice
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nice socks in sandals

gritty notch
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we just found linus's account

rocky geode
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Hey man

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I’m just excited

tender mulch
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FE nice!

rocky geode
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Thanks had to buy it off a scalper unfortunately

tender mulch
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oh

gritty notch
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no longer excited

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this does not spark joy

hollow dawn
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Are the ASUS GTX 1660 Super and ASUS RTX 2060 any Good? The are cheap, do they have good cooling system?

jolly sandal
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ROG?

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or just asus

hollow dawn
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Just Asus

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Dual fans both

jolly sandal
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they're good

tender mulch
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They'll be fine. Just won't overclock very far

hollow dawn
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I mean it’s not like im going to run all my games at Insane Graphics

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Thanks Guys

random walrus
dry sky
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Hey can anyone find a GPU with capabilities of direct x 12 that is under $200?

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just wondering

tender mulch
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Anything nVidia 900 series and up

dry sky
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oh

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ok thanks

tender mulch
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and R9390X and up

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as well as integrated GPU's on processors I think

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But under $200, you're probably looking at used

dry sky
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well i have a gaming PC i just need to update the GPU to record

tender mulch
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What GPU is it now?

dry sky
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ermmm lemme check

tender mulch
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If you want to record with it, nVidia is the way to go

dry sky
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yea

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i have nVIDIA geforce gt 1030

tender mulch
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Oh my

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Ok, this is the best you can do under $200

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nice bump in performance

dry sky
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wdym?

tender mulch
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You said best DX12 graphics under $200

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That's it

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Roughly 200% performance gain

dry sky
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WOW thanks

tender mulch
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Huge gains

dry sky
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so

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ermmm

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nvm

tender mulch
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how big is the power supply in your PC?

dry sky
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750

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i need a new one tho

tender mulch
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750 watts?

dry sky
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iyea

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yea

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i need 850 tho

tender mulch
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why so big for so little power draw?

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Why do you need 850?

dry sky
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i have ryzen 7

tender mulch
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Well, the total power draw on your system right now is maybe 250 watts

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With a GT1030 graphics card

dry sky
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i have mpg x570 gaming edge wifi

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as my mobo

tender mulch
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Takes hardly any power

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Most power is CPU and GPU

karmic charm
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will a 3060ti run at full power on a pci 3

tender mulch
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yes

dry sky
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welll

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ermmm]

karmic charm
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whats the difference between 4th and 3rd

dry sky
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when i plug another fan in the entire computer shuts off and doesnt turn on unless you unplug that fan

tender mulch
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Seems like a bad fan

dry sky
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if that makes sense

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noo

tender mulch
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gen 4 has more bandwidth

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but graphics card's don't really need it right now

dry sky
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it cam e with the case

karmic charm
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ok cool

tender mulch
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Are you plugging it in with things running?

dry sky
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no

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but in a nutshell thats what happens

tender mulch
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Yeah, I'd say bad fan

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motor bad

dry sky
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so i plug in a fan

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it doesnt turn on

tender mulch
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Drawing too much power and it trips the protection in the motherboard

dry sky
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i unplug the fan it runs on

tender mulch
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nothing to do with power supply wattage

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750 watts will run a 5900x and an RTX3080 lol

dry sky
#

ermmm

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i dont know about that one cheif

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i told you i have ryzen 7 right?

tender mulch
#

mhmmm

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I have one too

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Processor draws 100-115 watts max

dry sky
#

and for my case, which my might be taking up power i have antec nx 310

tender mulch
#

Nope

#

fans take like, 0.5 watts each

#

Well, call it 6 watts each

#

SO even with 5 fans, you're still only at 150 watts tops.

dry sky
#

lemme show you what im working with here

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go to the build pic

tender mulch
#

Is there something you were gonna post there?

#

@dry sky Were you expecting something in that channel?

dry sky
#

uhh yeah gimme a sec

tender mulch
#

Yeah, there's still nothing there hardware wise with a GT1030 that's going to use more than 200 watts

#

SO if your power supply is 750 watts like you say, the 1650 is a good upgrade and the fan motor is most likely ded

dry sky
#

So then why is that effecting my entire computer?

tender mulch
#

Because if the fan is bad, and you hook it to the motherboard fan header, there are protections to keep other things from breaking

sonic bough
#

Copped a 5500 xt for the price of an rx 550

remote cargo
#

anyone know if the stock fans for meshify c are quiet?

reef heath
#

When would the rx 6800 be back on stocks?

#

MSI or XFX

lone pond
#

My Gigabyte GPU is no longer recognized from RGB Fusion software and the lights are permanently off at the moment. This was out of nowhere.

lone pond
#

rgb fusion uh

hidden carbon
lone pond
#

After a cold start it worked. It's fine now. Unplugged PSU, held down power button, then switched the power off, plugged in, switch on, then boot.

rigid crag
#

Rgb software is finicky at best and fusion is not one of the best lol

remote cargo
#

I was thinking of silent wings 3 (2 140mm intake and 1 120mm exhaust(

cyan vault
#

i dont think the 3000 series was as good as it could be

#

it was overhyped

crisp ocean
#

The 1 120mm exaust is not enough

#

It won’t cool as much but it’ll prevent dust buildup

cyan vault
#

idk everyone was so hype but i havent seen much anymore

#

feel like people thought it was gonna be better than it is

crisp ocean
#

The 30 cards were much better than expected

cyan vault
#

maybe i looked at biased sources idk

crisp ocean
#

They were amazing, you could get a 3070 with 2080ti perf at 1/3rd of the price

#

Maybe like 40% of the price but still equal performance for much cheapwr

remote cargo
#

so too much positive is also bad?

crisp ocean
#

The 3060 and 3090s are outliers in the series so you can’t judge off of them

crisp ocean
remote cargo
#

Oh

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okay

#

so what about 2 120mm. Meshify c has quite a bit of vents so I don’t want to have a lot of fans

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Plus it’s kinda expensive

crisp ocean
#

Well vents aren’t actively bringing in or pulling out air

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Which fans are you looking at?

remote cargo
#

silent wings 3

crisp ocean
#

I mean you can have 2 one set to intake and one set to exaust

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But 4-5 would be more ideal

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And of the same size too size matters

random walrus
#

I would say 2 140 in/1 120 out should be alright as long as the case has a mesh opening up top

crisp ocean
random walrus
#

My case is 3 120 intakes and 1 120 exhaust

remote cargo
#

I also really prefer quiet

random walrus
#

Any extra pressure is gonna go out the top or back of the case

crisp ocean
#

What are your temps

random walrus
#

Mine?

crisp ocean
#

Yes

random walrus
#

cpu stays under 80c, I don't really monitor my gpu but it definitely doesn't get too hot

crisp ocean
#

I mean that’s where the issue comes in with negative air pressure

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What cooler

random walrus
#

It's positive pressure when you have more intake than exhaust

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Ryzen 3600X/ hyper 212 Evo

crisp ocean
#

My bad I thought you had more exaust

#

But that means your temps will also run hotter compared to neutral or negative

random walrus
#

I mean maybe slightly

crisp ocean
#

I get 15C cooler temps than you with negative

#

That’s a lot more more than slightly, and the 212 hyper is better then my@cooler

random walrus
#

Wait like you have more exhaust than ok brake?

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*than intake

crisp ocean
#

Yes

remote cargo
#

will cpu cooler matter in temps. I want a fuma 2

random walrus
#

d u s t

crisp ocean
#

I have filters

#

I would rather clean filters more frequently

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And run cool

random walrus
#

I mean the way I see it, as long as nothing is throttling or harmfully hot it's not really an issue

crisp ocean
#

I guess, it is preference tbh but

#

neutral is generally agreed on whaat you want to strive for

random walrus
#

I would say having one more intake than exhaust is probably ideal, negative is really not that great for dust buildup. Even if you have filters the negative pressure can cause dust to be pulled in elsewhere

#

If I ever upgrade cpu/gpu to something that runs hotter I would definitely add at least 1 more 120mm but rn my setup works great

crisp ocean
#

I would change your cpu cooler tbh instead of adding more fans

random walrus
#

Hyper 212 should be more than enough for 3600x

crisp ocean
#

if you upgrade your cpu i would chang

#

hyper 212 is very meh

remote cargo
#

I have a 5600x will temps be different that a 3600x?

static rock
#

5600x has lower temps

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or at least lower tdp

remote cargo
#

basically I want silent wings 3 (2 intakes 140mm and 1 exhaust 120mm) my cooler would be a fuma 2

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in a meshify c

crisp ocean
#

5600x runs really cool

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during a stress test i got to a max of 57C

remote cargo
#

I was thinking since I have a lot of positive pressure air could escape from the top vent?

crisp ocean
#

thats a possibility

#

but cooler also matters

remote cargo
#

fuma 2

crisp ocean
#

i know

remote cargo
#

it supposedly rly good

crisp ocean
#

definitely is beefy, make sure you have enough clearance

remote cargo
#

clearance?

crisp ocean
#

itll fit in your case and has enough space

remote cargo
#

idk about ram because 3600 cl16 is expensive but 3200 cl14 and 3600 cl18 is “bad”

crisp ocean
#

what

remote cargo
#

on a b550f WiFi

crisp ocean
#

3600 cl18 is like the same as 3200 cl16

remote cargo
#

I was think of ram clearance

crisp ocean
#

clearance is space not speed

remote cargo
#

yeah once I figure out the ram, I can see if it fits

crisp ocean
#

Hiii

#

Oops wrong channel

#

And yeah good idea, 3200cl16 < 3600cl18 < 3600Cl16

fluid forge
#

RTX 3060 or 3060 ti?

crisp ocean
#

3060ti easily

#

3060 kinda bad

pallid sequoia
#

So my 3070 just came in the mail and it’s the wrong model

#

Idk if I should return it or not since I’ve been waiting about a month

crisp ocean
#

wdym wrong model

pallid sequoia
#

I got the evga xc3 instead of the ftw3

#

Which is the one I paid for

crisp ocean
#

ah email evga, theyre really good about that

rigid crag
#

Same thing happened to me but with a gigabyte card from newegg

#

They refunded me the difference. 10/10 customer service

remote cargo
#

Lol this is really off topic but there’s this Minecraft youtuber named Mumbo Jumbo and he got a 3090 suprim from MSI so he can play Minecraft (he also does a bunch of filming and video things but I find it funny that he has a super rare card to play Minecraft)

crisp ocean
#

Overkill esp since Minecraft is CPU bound lol

tender mulch
#

Uh oh. VideoCardz.com: ZOTAC and EVGA increase prices of for their GeForce RTX 30 graphics cards.
https://videocardz.com/newz/zotac-and-evga-increase-prices-of-for-their-geforce-rtx-30-graphics-cards

ASUS and EVGA increase GPU pricing in the US Following ASUS’s decision to increase PC component pricing in the US, ZOTAC and EVGA are following the suit.  It almost felt like PC stores started to see increased stock of graphics cards by the end of 2020, but at the beginning of 2021, the GPU pricing […]

crisp ocean
dense panther
#

nice

#

im in the queue

#

for sure now im buying evga

urban remnant
#

i got an evga rtx 3060 ti

random walrus
#

is the 3070 FE cooler good?

crisp ocean
#

Yeah its much better than previous FE models

random walrus
#

ok thanks. I heard the 3080 cooler was pretty good but the lower end cards have a slightly different design

green harness
crisp ocean
#

April 16th is also 3 months away lol

#

and by then you never know the tariffs could be gone

green harness
#

They're still working to fulfill day 1 orders on some cards. Soooooo

#

It's better than anything any other company is doing right now, but it's no guarantee. I am 30 hours out from where the queue is on one card and there's a very good chance they won't get to me by April

crisp ocean
#

30 hours meaning you filled out the form 30 hours ago?

#

I got one of my evga emails 6 days ago from october 19th

lone pond
#

can i ever buy a gpu?

green harness
#

The queue I am in opened on Oct. 29, I queued on Oct. 30th at like 1pm. They have fulfilled orders for people who queued up to about 6am on the 29th and the last two times they have sent offers to purchase they got to between 10 and 20 seconds worth of people

lone pond
#

The one time i ordered one they cancelled

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otherwise always out of stock

crisp ocean
#

Be patient, the market is terrible right now

lone pond
#

Why does newegg allow resellers who are price gouging

#

They should just price gouge themselves

#

500$ card for 1500

green harness
#

Pretty sure you can get a scalped 3080 for that, not sure what that seller is thinking

crisp ocean
#

Yeah thats insanely overpriced

static zinc
#

@tender mulch evga increase is the smallest of all aib, only 8%

#

zotac is 12% and asus is 20%

crisp ocean
#

Asus yeesh

slow mulch
#

that autonotify button is "the que" for EVGA cards right?

crisp ocean
#

Correct

slow mulch
#

oh good...

static zinc
#

@slow mulch which card are you trying to get?

#

just a fyi ive been in the 3080 queue since early launch day and no email yet

faint kindle
#

the gpu market rn, rip

slow mulch
#

yeah I only hopped on early December so I figure I've got a ways yet. Trying to get a 3080 ftw3 if I can help it.... like literally everyone else lol

lone pond
#

wrong chat sorry

random walrus
jagged sequoia
#

time to get in the newegg queue

green harness
#

Let's see if it turns into an F5 race when they release it. Sounds like it could be a good development, but what we really need is more supply

random walrus
#

😐

icy cove
#

bruh did they really just say that

eternal harness
#

lol

#

fax no printer

crude dust
tender mulch
#

Heck yeah! I got my EVGA that day too!

rustic pulsar
#

Is it worth paying the extra money for a non-founders card

tender mulch
#

i do it for the warranty

#

EVGA literally doesn't care if you overclock or install a waterblock

#

No warranties voided

rustic pulsar
#

I mean like, is it worth paying for like the extra fans and the extra boost clock

karmic crag
#

the great BB drop of 1/5

#

i was so close to getting a 3060 ti peepoSadSip

rustic pulsar
#

How much can I sell my 2060 for?

#

used

tender mulch
#

I mean, $300-400 on ebay

#

Non super

karmic crag
#

^

rustic pulsar
#

300, 3060 ti is $400 yeee

#

The founders addtion is fine right I dont need to spend more to get the good ones rihgt

karmic crag
#

no not really

tender mulch
#

nah

rustic pulsar
#

Okay thanks

karmic crag
#

if you want warranty then maybe consider another brand's card

tender mulch
#

I just like EVGA for the warranty, that's all

karmic crag
#

but i'd just get the FE

tender mulch
#

FE is still very capable

karmic crag
#

cheaper, looks nicest, and just as god nvidia intended

rustic pulsar
#

Yes, the founders additon look very nice

#

How much wattage, I only got 500 now, I need to upgrade right?

tender mulch
#

What CPU?

rustic pulsar
#

i7-10700 F 4.9 ghz 8 core 16 threads

tender mulch
#

What brand and model PSU?

#

if it's a good one you might be OK

#

and how old is it?

rustic pulsar
#

i dont know it came in a prebuilt

tender mulch
#

Oh

rustic pulsar
#

Its a thermotake

tender mulch
#

yeah

#

pitch it

#

get a new 600-650w lol

rustic pulsar
#

okay

tender mulch
#

Or a good 550w

rustic pulsar
#

Is it worth gettting the 80 gold+ or is bronze fine

tender mulch
#

Bronze is fine

#

It only means efficiency from wall to components, not quality

rustic pulsar
#

k

#

Mind finding me a good one for ~$100 usd haha (pls)

rustic pulsar
#

Thanks (: I think ill pay the extra $10 for the 650 model when i go to buy my 3060 ti

#

When do you think they will reliable be in stock haha

tender mulch
#

best Buy 19th, 10:30-11 AM EST

#

Newegg nightly drops, 7:30 PM, use Apply Pay or PayPal or something

#

Well, newegg is Monday through THursday

rustic pulsar
#

source for the best buy

tender mulch
#

Past drops

#

I got one on the 5th

rustic pulsar
#

nice

tender mulch
#

They're bi-weekly with huge stock

#

big drops

rustic pulsar
#

bi-weekly meaning...

tender mulch
#

every two weeks

#

last one was the 5th, next is the 19th

rustic pulsar
#

okay

tender mulch
#

Click add to cart. Yellow button will change to PLEASE WAIT. DO IT, don't refresh. WHen it turns yellow again, add to cart and checkout

#

People refresh the page when it says please wait and it ruins your order. Just wait. It'll work

rustic pulsar
#

So, total selling price for old psu and gpu $390, cost of new stuff, 500, yeee

tender mulch
#

right?

#

My 2060 is up to $255 already with 5 days to go LOL

rustic pulsar
#

How much of a differnce is it going from a 2060 to 3060 ti

tender mulch
#

You're gonna like it lol

#

Almost double the 3DMark Time spy score

rustic pulsar
#

fun

#

Hows the rtx

tender mulch
#

Which means a LOT more FPS, depending on the game.

#

I dunno, only RTX game I have I think is CP2077

#

haven't got back into it yet

rustic pulsar
#

I think im gonna wait a bit, the most pc stuff I've upgraded is adding 2 ram sticks, is it hard to replace gpu and psu?

karmic crag
#

rtx is a game-changer imo

#

looks gorgeous in games

#

i can't wait till it gets implemented in more stuff/becomes mainstream

karmic crag
#

the drops are big, so you'll likely get one

rustic pulsar
#

Is it hard to replace psu and gpu?

tender mulch
#

PSU isn't hard just a PITA

#

With all the cables and such

tepid zodiac
#

3090 fe vs Evga 3090?

reef heath
#

6800 or 3070

tender mulch
#

EVGA all the way

#

Warranty is second to none

tepid zodiac
#

3070, more features.

tender mulch
#

Yes, DLSS< RTX< NVENC

tepid zodiac
#

Thx @tender mulch

reef heath
#

should i buy EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3?

#

for 720>

#

or nay

tender mulch
#

I got the XC3 Ultra

tepid zodiac
#

Yes to the brand

tender mulch
#

The only thing the FTW3 has is lots of RGB

tepid zodiac
#

Idk about price...

tender mulch
#

So if you want RGB, get it. If not, get a lower model

reef heath
#

this is the lowest i saw

tepid zodiac
#

If anyone has a EVGA 3090 I'd trade you my pny 3090 + cash.

reef heath
#

i just want a 6800..

tepid zodiac
#

Ur choice, 3070 is ganna be better

karmic crag
#

the 3070 is cheaper than the 6800 as well, right?

#

by about 80 USD if im not mistaken

tepid zodiac
#

$50 cheaper I think

#

Because of the terrif thing EVERYTHING Is going to go up

reef heath
#

and mcrypto

tepid zodiac
#

Yes

reef heath
#

but i dont do crypto so yeah but the performance of 6800 is great but if features its 3070

radiant smelt
#

Can't find any 3070s for less than double normal price

tender mulch
#

Import taxes went up

tepid zodiac
#

What's the best 3090. Other then kingpin and strix, ik they are 1st and 2nd place

crisp ocean
#

How much would a scalped EVGA XC3 gaming 3070 sell for?

#

800? more?

tender mulch
#

Probs $800

#

My ultra was $559 MSRP

crisp ocean
#

Ultra is more no

#

now

tender mulch
#

Well yeah but not $800

crisp ocean
#

well yeah but

#

like obviously scalping is bad

#

but if im given a 3070 to sell

#

i wanna know how much i can get lol

#

maybe more

tender mulch
#

Just put it up there for MSRP and watch the number go up

crisp ocean
#

Alright, I'm putting it up on facebook market place too which is why I am asking

#

so I can list it there for 800 and ebay for 600 and hope it makes more than 800

#

cause they take a % possibly

#

I just want to make 800 atleast so I can buy a 3080 for my self lol

#

and then sell my other 3070 for like

#

700-800

#

and pay my dad back the 600-660 and gain $100-200

tender mulch
#

I mean, people like me flag those listings on Facebook

#

Just sayin

crisp ocean
#

Ill see then

#

ebay is more fair tbh cause I am not forcing them to pay

tender mulch
#

XD

#

Yes

crisp ocean
#

but I totally understand lol

#

Still hope the plan i said above works lol

#

I think a zotac 3070 Twin edge OC can yield atleast 700

#

lightly used

hearty ice
# reef heath i just want a 6800..

if you just care about high FPS rasterization, the 6800 is better than 3070. If you like pretty games and don't mind low FPS, you can turn RTX and DLSS on if you can tolerate lower FPS

#

but if your sole focus is to run eg. 1440p@144Hz and don't care much about fancy RT effects, the 6800 is definitely better

random walrus
#

koopa deadass planning to scalp a card?

#

I think a zotac 3070 Twin edge OC can yield atleast 700

#

I just want to make 800 atleast so I can buy a 3080 for my self lol

#

and then sell my other 3070 for like
700-800

#

unfortunately I cannot accurately express my disgust in this server due to the swear filter

reef heath
#

since i run a 1440p 165hz

tender mulch
#

Not koopa, Fallen

crisp ocean
# random walrus koopa deadass planning to scalp a card?

Hey buddy, I am not Koopa first off. Feel disgusted all you want but if I have two cards I don't need and can make more money off, most people would take that oppertunity. I am not going out of my way to get these cards for the point of making a profit, I am doing this because I will have a 3070 I don't need and can sell, and then can afford a 3080. I would then have another 3070 that I could sell. I am not doing it to make a profit, I am doing it to get something off of my hand and can make some extra money.

#

TL:DR, I am not doing this to make a lot of money, I am selling cards I would have

random walrus
#

I am not doing it to make a profit
can make some extra money.

crisp ocean
random walrus
#

sure sell for MSRP (plus tariffs or whatever)

reef heath
#

how much u selling for?

crisp ocean
#

You do you, A lot of people now are selling their old cards they don't use for more than they bought it for just because they can

random walrus
#

but the old cards arent nearly as scarce as 30 series

hearty ice
crisp ocean
#

And it realistically

crisp ocean
#

would make more than that, thats just a biproduct of poor stock

random walrus
#

if a scalper lists an action starting at msrp they're still a scalper

reef heath
#

guess il wait for 6800 for like 650 atleast

crisp ocean
dreamy dragonBOT
#
steviejoe66#1028 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

random walrus
#

oops

crisp ocean
#

I didn't buy this card to sell it for more, if someone is willing to pay me more, I will gladly do that

#

I am not forcing anyone to buy this card from me

#

I just won't need it anymore and people will pay more for it

random walrus
#

I am not forcing anyone to buy this card from me
i mean same with scalpers

#

profiting off of scarcity

crisp ocean
#

My goal when getting my cards wasn't profit

random walrus
#

yeah but now you are trying to make profit

crisp ocean
#

Because who wouldn't like to make extra cash? Scalpers are taking cards from others without the intent to use them for money. I am selling a card I got becaue I don't need it anymore and am not effecting people's chances of buying an MSRP card

hearty ice
#

sell it for a $50 more than you got it for, as a "convenience fee". That's how I bought my 3070 from a friend

#

it's fair

coarse spindle
#

ok everyone, hear me out here. the r9 fury is a freaking good deal. for 200$ (like I have found) It TROUNCES the 980 and 580. it is a freaking good deal

#

and easy watercooling

crisp ocean
hearty ice
#

that's kinda yikes

crisp ocean
#

None of my friends need it if they did I would sell it to them

reef heath
#

how about me?

#

ahahah

lone pond
#

any wireless gpus

tender mulch
brisk flame
#

i mean

#

kinda?

#

theres a gtx 480 with built in wireless display outputs

#

ahh, i mean 460

crisp ocean
#

Geforce now?

#

Geforce now allows you to play games with semi decent quality without a good GPU typically at the expense of latency and bandwitch

opal iron
#

Why is my GTX 1080 getting really hot all of a sudden. Im playing mc and the game drops by 150 fps and the card feels really hot. My case has good airflow and this never happened with previous gpus so it has to be a card problem right?

#

If so is there any way i can fix it?

crisp ocean
#

Do you know how hot you card gets by any chance?

opal iron
#

It got to 88c

#

Which i know is too hot

#

I shut my pc off completely and im letting it cool down

crisp ocean
#

Give me one minute

opal iron
#

Thank god

#

I fixed it

#

It turned out the gpu fan was cracked so jt wasn’t properly cooling

crisp ocean
#

i am back

#

Ok thats good you dianosed that

opal iron
#

I replaced the fan

#

Temps are normal now

shy forge
#

does best buy announce what time they will drop on twitter

crisp ocean
#

Alright thats good

crisp ocean
shy forge
#

when will the next wegg drop be

crisp ocean
#

Presumably every two weeks, so on the 20th? but theres no definitive answer it could be sooner or later

tender mulch
#

19th

crisp ocean
#

Yes 19th

#

Close enough

hoary phoenix
#

Is an asus 1660 super 8 gb I think for 200$ a good deal

crisp ocean
#

Yes

#

In this market that’s amazing

lone pond
#

@hoary phoenix link it 🦧

craggy compass
#

what is the reasonable price for a RX 570 4GB graphics card?

#

Used*

crisp ocean
#

Like

#

100 max

faint kindle
#

Not much

rocky geode
#

my 3070 gets 55fps average in borderlands at 4k

#

thats crazy

pulsar iron
#

why is my 2070 getting more fps at 3am?

random walrus
#

Why you bechmarking at 3am

rocky geode
#

💀💀

dim merlin
pulsar iron
#

IM GETTING EVEN BETTER PERFORMANCE AT 4AM BOYS

jagged ravine
#

i want to buy a silent but powerful ,gpu any recommendations?????

rocky geode
#

4am vs 4pm Bencharmaks

jagged ravine
#

and also a budget one

rocky geode
pulsar iron
#

get the rtx 3090

jagged ravine
#

around 250 bucks

dim merlin
#

Budget and quiet.

pulsar iron
#

that’s around 250

dim merlin
#

1030 passively cooled

rocky geode
#

Yikes 250

#

1060v

#

?

jagged ravine
#

hmmmmmmmmmmmm i see

dim merlin
#

Jokes aside

rocky geode
#

Gtx 1060

dim merlin
#

1660, 1060

rocky geode
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Run any game 1080p maxed

jagged ravine
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i just want good fps i got a 120 hz monitor

dim merlin
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3060 ti

jagged ravine
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for 250 ??

dim merlin
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Oh. No. Not for 250

jagged ravine
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330 bucks riiight

rocky geode
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Nah it’s $600

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Lmfao

dim merlin
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Rx 580

rocky geode
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At least in my areas

dim merlin
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30 series prices whack

jagged ravine
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3060 is for 330 dollars here

dim merlin
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Some dude tried to sell me a 3080 for 990

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Honestly that's a pretty good deal

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330 for a 3060

jagged ravine
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i am in the middle east so prices are lower here

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loal shop price

rocky geode
dim merlin
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Intel 🤔

jagged ravine
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i got and amd r7

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ryzen 7

dim merlin
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Nice. Yeah. I'd invest in a 3060 tbh

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Gets you the good fps, without running like a heli

jagged ravine
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ok i will save up some more and get the 3060

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thanks

dim merlin
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Good luck. And enjoy :)

jagged sequoia
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I can say if you want silent, DON'T get a 2060 ko, lol

lean flicker
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is bestbuy dropping 3060tis and stuff

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if so when

crisp ocean
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They do drops every 2 weeks? DONT quote me on that

prime niche
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I want to invest in 3060 when it comes in feb

crisp ocean
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Why

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for gaming?

tender mulch
crisp ocean
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Aye can't ait

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Hopefully I get the BIOS soon

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Still not out lol

jaunty mango
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Hey so I contacted amd supports and gave them my schpiel of issues and they suspect hardware failure which I guess makes sense as when my drivers crash my screen goes black then to static the to black again the comes back on

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So I need to test my cpu on a different system

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Luckily I may have someone with an AM4 motherboard

crisp ocean
latent relic
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any ideas on how to get a gpu under 300 usd thats better than a 1660

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i was thinking abt 5700xt cause i saw some on ebay for 279 but they got bought instantly

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so any other ideas

crisp ocean
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Just get lucky

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Market is so bad rn

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facebook marketplace is a good place to look

hearty ice
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craigslist as well

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just beware of obvious scams

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if they say they're willing to trade "valuables" (clothes/jewelry/phones) don't bother

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and don't meet at your home. Ideally, meet outside a police station

hollow dawn
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Just don’t think twice and buy it if you find a better card or you dont like it you can always cancel the order or send it back

latent relic
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yea true

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thanks guys

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cause ive built my pc with everything but the gpu

hollow dawn
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Btw I dont recommend Facebook market place

latent relic
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and i have no apu

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why

hollow dawn
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Got scammed once and not doing that again

crisp ocean
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How did you get scammed

hollow dawn
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“Brand New PS4” and for not double checking before getting home inside the box I only got 1 fake controller and a fking old ps4 with dust and bugs inside, went back to Facebook to tell the seller about it and couldn’t find him because i got blocked

lone pond
crisp ocean
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Nicee

lone pond
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Yeasssir

dense panther
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zotac

lone pond
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No

crisp ocean
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I thinkt hats gigabyte

lone pond
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Gigabyte

lone pond
dense panther
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better at least

crisp ocean
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at least?

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much better

dense panther
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zotac beurk

lone pond
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Yea it's pretty good

crisp ocean
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Zotac aint bad

dense panther
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us or cad ?

crisp ocean
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just worse than others

lone pond
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Especially when ur upgrading from a laptop that suffers from throttling the processor is 2.8ghz and has a 1050 ti in it

dense panther
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i prefer wait and buy an fe than buy zotac

lone pond
crisp ocean
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FE has very good silicon

dense panther
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yeah

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whats the msrp ?

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of the eagle ?

lone pond
dense panther
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yeah

crisp ocean
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I know

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I get more fps on my zotac than people on evgas lol

dense panther
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but zotac cheap out on component

lone pond
crisp ocean
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I think i got a higher end zotac

dense panther
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and its not worth the price

lone pond
dense panther
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fe is way better for price

crisp ocean
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better silicon*

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i paid 540 for mine

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for an OC

lone pond
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Yea same got the oc

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I'm happy with it and it's worth my money

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I can't wait till it gets here

dense panther
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like someone said zotac works until it doesnt

crisp ocean
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Then I'll RMA it

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and probably sell the RMA'd one lol

hollow dawn
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Wrong link

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And now I lost it

thorn kestrel
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I got the link

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lol

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I copied it before you deleted it

hollow dawn
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Oh