#graphics-cards

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subtle cradle
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more power to you, even though RT performance is ass

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not like RT is even that noticeable

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tbh

ripe ivy
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Even then it's not the best, but we're still early in its implementation

wary owl
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well

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fate has answered

subtle cradle
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a lot of RT isn't noticeable imo

valid sundial
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he got outbid

wary owl
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i got outbid

ripe ivy
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I still think standard raster visuals are better, but that makes sense we've been doing that for longer

steel smelt
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2060 RT isn't worth the extra cost of the 2060 over the 5600xt though. I think anyway.

wary owl
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no white 2080

vale oyster
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Tbh I wouldn't use RT in anything but a rtx 2080 above

subtle cradle
wary owl
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just gonna be patient

subtle cradle
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i mean 2070s is okay

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still not good

wary owl
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whoever is paying 750 for a white 2080 super, best of luck to you friend

ripe ivy
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2060 is bottom of the barrel for RT performance, so it's just eh

subtle cradle
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lol

wary owl
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is there a card out there with rgb fans?

subtle cradle
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tons

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well

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not tons, but a lot

wary owl
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please redirect to them

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give me names

subtle cradle
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one off the top of my head is some of the PowerColor cards

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(brand)

ripe ivy
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The only ones I can think of are some of Asrock's cards and Sapphire's I don't know who else has done that

cold spire
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any 3000 series yet?

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ant one know when they will be available.

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any*

subtle cradle
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i found a website where you can pay for a 3060ti already

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😳

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looks to be an OEM supplier

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i wonder if I should....

cold spire
ripe ivy
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Sounds shady to me

subtle cradle
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they dont post charges until it ships

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like you can buy trays of r5 3600s from this site

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trays of 12

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well

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"can"

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idk about right this moment

vale oyster
cold spire
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thanks

subtle cradle
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at the very soonest, like feb

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that seems... optimistic

cold spire
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any one Hype for the fortnite event?

ripe ivy
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I would wait till next quarter, check availability then

subtle cradle
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n omegalul

vale oyster
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Nein YouTried

spice prawn
subtle cradle
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yes

vale oyster
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Then again it's a shady site

lone pond
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Lol man

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Trays

eternal locust
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TURN IT UP

toxic nacelle
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ive basically given up on the idea of getting my hands on a half decent gpu before christmas

spare relic
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1650 Super is better than 3050y

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you heard it from TechPowerUp

toxic nacelle
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oh nooooooooooooo

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i have a 1660

ripe ivy
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1% is a wash

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Though now it makes me wonder, what kind of RT performance will that card even have? It's gonna be worse than a 2060 evidently

glass helm
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if i was to get 3080 i need to upgrade cpu that is ryzan 2600x?

ripe ivy
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Eh, what resolution are you playing at?

glass helm
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only 1080

ripe ivy
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Then absolutely yes, but then in that case I would say don't buy a $700+ graphics card for 1080p

glass helm
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i think i read that if was playing 1440 i would be fine but since 1080 it would be best to upgrade

ripe ivy
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Even at 1440p I think an upgrade would also kinda be in order tbh

glass helm
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using 1660 ti msi ventus

lone pond
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Is 220$ for a 1660 super good?

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And would a intel i5 9600k run a rtx 2060

spare relic
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230 is msrp

lone pond
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Nice

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So I got a deal from microcenter

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But would the i5 run a 2060

spare relic
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lol yes

lone pond
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Ok thanks

hardy wind
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wait hold on

lone pond
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What

edgy gyro
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Well newegg blocked my ip because I was refreshing the page 2 often trying 2 get a gpu

hardy wind
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what i5 is it

lone pond
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9600k

hardy wind
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oh, yeah just fine

spare relic
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lol

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use a vpn

lone pond
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Thanks cuz I'll probably upgrade from the 1660 super in a few years

edgy gyro
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Didn't think I had 2 but somehow they let the bots buy everything but I get blocked after 2 months of trying 2 get the stupid thing

lone pond
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Which card

warm palm
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@spice prawn So i realized something. All those three games that were giving me issues (AC origins, GRW, and NBA) are all installed on the ssd. Every other game is on my hdd and no problems so far. There is once other game on the ssd (Trine) which isn't giving me issues so far. I did try moving NBA to the HDD but this didn't fix the issue. BUT maybe there is something here? or am I grasping at straws? Sorry to bother you btw lol

lone pond
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Tbh I dont think that's the problem

warm palm
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you have a 1660? I have the 1660 super. Is it giving you any graphical issues in any games?

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@lone pond

lone pond
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No it runs super smooth but I set it up 5 days ago

warm palm
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that's good

lone pond
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I also have the 1660 super

warm palm
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I just got the 1660 super in a prebuilt a few days ago too

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oh ok

lone pond
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Asus tuf gaming

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Eww you got a prebuilt

warm palm
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well do you have either ghost recon wildlands, nba2k20, or AC origins?

lone pond
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Nah I'm just kidding

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No none of those

warm palm
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haha i know. Well its an MSI trident 3. I dont think I could build something that nice anyway haha

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dang

lone pond
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I have apex, rocket, and minecraft

warm palm
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I'm getting graphical issues, perhaps artifacts?

lone pond
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Havent had time to get many games

warm palm
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you familar with them?

lone pond
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No clue

warm palm
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kk

lone pond
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Msi and corsair pre builts are really good I've heard

warm palm
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my issues are only on those three games and nothing else. And all three are on my boot drive

edgy gyro
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If its graphics issues its probably the gpu

warm palm
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I guess I got unlucky. Although it may be a defective component. The package as a whole is amazing. I love how compact it is

lone pond
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Yeah all I have is a samsung 970 evo 500gb I dont have anything else

warm palm
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I'm just trying to figure out whats better to do. Contact newegg for the RMA or MSI.

lone pond
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MSI prolly

edgy gyro
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New egg msi will take forever

warm palm
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I'm thinking newegg wouldn't be able to replace a specific component right? They would have to replace the whole PC right?

lone pond
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Yeah that's what I'm thinking

steel smelt
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@edgy gyro I just got blocked by Newegg too. All I did was use a Chrome app to refresh a page for me this weekend waiting for them to restock something.

warm palm
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dang. sorta inconvenient since I spent the last few days installing tons of crap on the ssd and hdd lol but at least this issue started less than a week from getting the pc so I can replace it

lone pond
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Big sad, good thing I can't even afford a 3000 series card

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Just buy a big ass flash drive and move you games on the flash drive

warm palm
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I'm just affraid that If they replace it, the issue will still happen. Cuz i've heard that happened to a few people

lone pond
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Well you could return it

warm palm
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Yeah that's what i did initially to transfer the games from my laptop to the PC. Now gotta do the reverse lol

lone pond
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And get a whole new system

warm palm
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this one was affordable for me so can't really do that

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and also it was sff

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there were cheaper PCs but they were all mid towers or full atx

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I'm gonna be travelling soon, that's why i got the trident 3

edgy gyro
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Honestly rma and build it yourself

warm palm
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you mean refund?

spice prawn
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@warm palm nothing to be sorry about

edgy gyro
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Its good 2 know how 2 built a computer

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Yea refund

lone pond
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That's why you build it yourself

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So much more reliable

warm palm
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I know that was my plan, but I'm a student and dont have much time and need a PC to be working out of the box so I dont have any downtime for studying

edgy gyro
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Or even nzxt bld would be better

remote cargo
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is 3060 ti confirmed to launch?

spice prawn
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and the ssd being the problem would result in things like hitching/lag/spikes in fluidity

lone pond
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Wait what 3060 cards are a thing

warm palm
lone pond
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Lian li lanccol ii is great it's what I jave

remote cargo
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I read online that it launches dec 2

spice prawn
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@lone pond yes, we have box art for them and i believe we have a single card picture too

warm palm
edgy gyro
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You don't want to get something 2 small or you will have trouble upgrading it when u want 2

warm palm
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thats true

lone pond
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The cooler master TD500 is also good

lone pond
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But they're hard to find

warm palm
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windows is completely unaffected

edgy gyro
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Nzxt h510 is a nice cheap case built my dad a computer in one and corsair has some new cases that look interesting

warm palm
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i was looking into this really slim lianli case

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but its out of stock

lone pond
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Yeah the lancool ii

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It's great I have it

warm palm
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slimmer than that!

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haha

edgy gyro
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Apparently the itx nzxt case catches on fire lol

lone pond
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Nobody cares

warm palm
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kk

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oh also the smallest nzxt case they have is really nice

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but its over 2 grand

dreamy dragonBOT
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UT143#7251 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

lone pond
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Oops

warm palm
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lol

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you said a bad word?

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tsk tsk

lone pond
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I said sh*t

warm palm
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lol

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bot isnt smart enough to censor that

lone pond
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But dang that case is slim af

warm palm
lone pond
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You really want that??

warm palm
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its the same form factor as the trident.

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yeaa 😛

lone pond
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Why tho

warm palm
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I travel a lot back and forth for school

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and I had laptops

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for gaming

spice prawn
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@warm palm dont avoid the filter please.

lone pond
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Are ya crammed for space

spice prawn
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there is zero reason for language like that

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so please delete your message

lone pond
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Why does it matter there arent any kids herr

spice prawn
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because rules are rules.

lone pond
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You a mod?

warm palm
lone pond
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Ok

spice prawn
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i am not a mod.

lone pond
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Then stop trying to be one

warm palm
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its cool

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I wont swear

spice prawn
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i am however one of the people that helps others here. and cursing does not help anyone.

warm palm
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@spice prawn has been very helpful to me

lone pond
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Yeah howd you get those ranks

warm palm
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i was previously using a egpu

lone pond
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Of master and techie

warm palm
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which was powerful but unreliable

spice prawn
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techie is given, they ask you.

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the other is just being active

warm palm
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and it was limited by the terrible cooling of the CPU on the laptop

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that's why I'm trying to steer away frop laptop and egpu gaming

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and go full on PC gaming

lone pond
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Ok

warm palm
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but taking a baby step in buying a prebuilt before I actually build a PC myself haha

lone pond
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I never even though about laptop gaming

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To expensive

warm palm
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yeah

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they are

lone pond
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A laptop is usually 2x more expensive then the equivalent PC

warm palm
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i got a laptop with a 1050ti a few years ago for 900

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expensive

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as hecl

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heck

spice prawn
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its a trade off, if you need the flexibility

warm palm
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yeah

lone pond
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Yeah it is

warm palm
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the egpu was a good compromise

lone pond
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What's egpu

spice prawn
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external gpu

warm palm
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oh no way i will open your eyes to external graphics card enclosures

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haha

lone pond
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Oh yeah I forgot that's a thing

warm palm
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the tech is pretty cool

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just once cable and boom, 300% better performance from using a laptop with no dedicated gpu

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(i made up that statistic)

lone pond
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I would imagine

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What time is for you

warm palm
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yeah only thing is I was using an ultra thin laptop (lenovo ideapad 730s) and the cooling was so bad I had to use throttlestop to disable turbo so the processor could only run at a measly 1.8 Ghz to avoid thermal throttling

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midnight

lone pond
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No idea what any of that is

warm palm
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oh haha

lone pond
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Like throttle stop wtf is that

warm palm
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its a program you can use to undervolt your cpu or to alter the boost frequencies

lone pond
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So the opposite of overclock

warm palm
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its used to limit how much power the cpu drains so the temps stay in check

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yeah exactly

lone pond
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Dang 1.8 Ghz I over clocked my i5 to 4.1 ghz

warm palm
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ahah

lone pond
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1.8 pretty bad

warm palm
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dont rub it in

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😢

lone pond
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Your fine XD

warm palm
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but hey now my desktop cpu runs at 4 ghz

spare relic
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Underclock

warm palm
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it makes a world of a difference

lone pond
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What CPU is it

warm palm
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probably same as yours? i5-10400F

lone pond
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No I have 9700k

warm palm
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ohh

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much better

lone pond
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Yeag

warm palm
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yeah i cant do overclocking on mine

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mobo doesnt allow it

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or the cpu idk

lone pond
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I got it for super cheap with black Friday

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154$

warm palm
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oh nice

lone pond
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Its MSRP was like 200 something

warm palm
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i got this trident 3 for black friday haha

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but obviously as you know will either replace it or refund it

lone pond
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Yeah I bought my whole build at microcenter on Wednesday

warm palm
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oh nice

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first build?

lone pond
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Yep

warm palm
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congrats

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I wish i was you

lone pond
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Finished it on Friday

warm palm
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we dont have microcenter here

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I always see youtubers go there

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seems like PC heaven

lone pond
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Ours is 40 min away so kinda inconvenient but yeah its soooooo cool

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They have legit everything

warm palm
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hey worth the trip for the deals

lone pond
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Def

warm palm
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yeah i saw a wall full of ryzen cpus in an austin evans video

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looks cool haha

lone pond
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I price matched on newegg and Amazon and both were over 100$ morr

warm palm
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wow

lone pond
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Yeah I saw Austin's vid

warm palm
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what case did you build in?

lone pond
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That's how I discovered microcenter

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The lancool ii

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Lian li

warm palm
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oh ok ahah

lone pond
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That's why I keep saying it was good

warm palm
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xD

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i see that now haha

lone pond
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Lol

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My motherboard was probably overkill ngl

warm palm
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what is it?

lone pond
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Z390 pro wifi

warm palm
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oh wow

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haha

lone pond
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Its MSRP was 200

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Crazy

warm palm
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yeah i thought that's for like 2080 and 3000 series haha

lone pond
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I mean the guy at microcenter reccomend it

warm palm
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but your cpu is good so makes sense

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yeah

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cuz it allows overclocking i guess

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and upgrade path is great

lone pond
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It wont run 10th gen intel chips though

warm palm
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oh haha

lone pond
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So no i9 for me lol

warm palm
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i assumed it would

lone pond
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Like I would even want one

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It might actually

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Not surr

warm palm
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yeah you're probably good with what you have CPU wise for many years

lone pond
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Yeah I would like a 2060 in 3 years time or less

warm palm
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your gpu is the only thing you really would need to upgrade

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yeah

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but for rn 1660 is really good

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I game at 1080p 60hz too

lone pond
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That and I might want a extra fan

warm palm
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I almost pulled the trigger on a 3080 system but then realized who, that would be such a waste considering I dont have the peripherals to take advantage of it, like a high refresh rate monitor

lone pond
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I have 75hrz not a huge difference but slightly noticeable I would imagine

warm palm
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yeah maybe

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I have a 75hz ultrawide too

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i dont really notice a difference though tbh

lone pond
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yeah you basically have to buy a 144hrz monitor for a 3080 and it be pointless to get 1080p

warm palm
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yeah

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a good realization to have thouygh

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saved me a ton of cash

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haha

lone pond
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Yep

warm palm
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cuz then i would most definitely waste more money on a new monitor

lone pond
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I almost bought the i5 10400 but then I realized that the 9600k war the same price and way better

warm palm
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yeah good call

lone pond
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Them black Friday deals

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Lol

warm palm
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lol

lone pond
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You'll probably get one after the xmas season

ripe ivy
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I dunno if that's way better phaSheva

warm palm
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slightly

lone pond
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Wdym

ripe ivy
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Well you're getting half the threads

warm palm
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10400f cant be overclocked right?

ripe ivy
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No it can't but clockspeed isn't everything

lone pond
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It wasnt the 10400f just 10400

warm palm
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6 core 12 threads

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oh

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whats core and thread count of 9600k?

ripe ivy
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6 cores/6 threads

lone pond
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Damn I'd have to look it up

warm palm
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oh i see

lone pond
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Well he knows never mind

spice prawn
warm palm
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well 10400f just doesnt have integrated graphics, i know that

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also i have a q

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what exactly are threads for?

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and the difference between that and a core?

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maybe thats a loaded question

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haha

spice prawn
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consider them "cores that are only active when the cpu is doing things that does not use everything"

ripe ivy
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So it's called hyperthreading, it makes each core more efficient at multi tasking.

lone pond
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I got the 9600k cuz it has a better speed out of box

spice prawn
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thats the "base" ide

lone pond
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And I'm not gonna be multitasking

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This is just for school and gaming

spice prawn
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the implementation that we have in modern SMT is basically "cores" that run all the time and which are close to equal to normal cores

ripe ivy
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Those 6 threads are already on their knees for modern AAA games

knotty iris
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I just don't understand why they don't do a preorder system for them and just let us order them ahead of time so I don't have to keep frustrating myself with the damn bot lottery. I'm on a 3GB 1060, I need an upgrade

spice prawn
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does that answer it for you @warm palm ?

lone pond
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But do you need to go from a 1060 to a 3080

warm palm
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i still dont get it haha

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but its not important

knotty iris
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I want to go 4K so ye

spice prawn
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generally: more thread = better

warm palm
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as long as things are fast

spice prawn
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(there are limits)

warm palm
ripe ivy
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There's always a use for extra threads, like the Os doing stuff in the background

lone pond
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Doesnt the threadripper have like 128 threads or smth

ripe ivy
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Yes, it does the highest end offering

warm palm
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so cores are for active tasks and threads takeover background tasks?

spice prawn
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the 64 core one does

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cores = threads from that POV @warm palm

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they are the same thing from the view of "how fast is this cpu"

lone pond
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Why is that necessary

warm palm
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and when are they unequal?

ripe ivy
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It's not necessary for the average person obviously

lone pond
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Yeah like wtf is that for

spice prawn
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its a sideeffect of the cpu design we use "now"

lone pond
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I guess large scale video editing

ripe ivy
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When they presented it, it was shown rendering a CG model for the recent Terminator movie

spice prawn
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frequency does not scale as well as people would like

warm palm
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like maybe if you are watching a youtube video podcast, while playing a game, and downloading a game, and maybe rendering something in sony vegas? LOL

lone pond
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XD

spice prawn
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hence why we are trying to go "wide" instead of "high"

warm palm
spice prawn
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its way more complex than that ofc, but that is the gist of it

warm palm
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yeah i figured

lone pond
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What's the Intel xeon series

warm palm
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oh buy

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boy

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those are like worsestation cpus right?

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workstation*

lone pond
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I saw them in all the digital storm workstations

spice prawn
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workstation/server versions designed for the kind of workloads that LOVES threads

lone pond
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Like how many threads

warm palm
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oh that makes sense because a server would be handling the workload of multiple computers at once

spice prawn
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yes

warm palm
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and processing data and completing tasks

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for the multiple computers connected to the server?

lone pond
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I actually though about buying from digital storm

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But then was like nah

warm palm
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this was very educational

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lol

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ty

spice prawn
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intel xeon tops out at 56threads per socket iirc

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but models like that and the competing amd ones are normally in the 5k+ range

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per cpu

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but the cpu and the hardware in general that the rest of the server/workstation is made up from. is generally the smallest cost of the machine itself

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the software licenses etc normally outstrip that by a factor of 10 or more

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in a server rack, the license fees are silly

lone pond
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Some of those digital storm work stations had 4 rtx titan x gpus

spice prawn
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yes, thats nice and cheap still

lone pond
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The cheapest workstation was 4k

spice prawn
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aye

lone pond
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Wait no 2k

spice prawn
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thats sofa money in that space

lone pond
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The most expensive was like you know 60k or something

spice prawn
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aye

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still in consumer space then

lone pond
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That's just dumb

spice prawn
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not really

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think about it like this

lone pond
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Who would need all that

spice prawn
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IF you have someone that is limited by how fast the machine can work

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IF you can get a machine that makes each job they do, go 10% faster

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they make 10% more money

lone pond
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Ok so like a vfx artist

spice prawn
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it applies to all fields

lone pond
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Or cgi

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For movies

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I mean cad is super labor intensive for the computer

spice prawn
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simulation based cad? yes

lone pond
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My friends dad has this giant pc for cad, cuz hes a engineer of some sorts

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Yeah simulation stuff

spice prawn
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thats where it starts

warm palm
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oh cool 🙂

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ty

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wow 2002

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it was cutting edge stuff

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haha

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idk if you watch Bitwit

lone pond
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Bitwit is great

warm palm
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he put out a couple vids of him reacting to this old PC show

lone pond
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Lyle is the best

warm palm
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its really cool to see how the PC space was back then

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hah ai love lyle

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he rerry good

lone pond
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Yeah lyle reacting the verge is priceless, everybody else's was boring compared to that one

jovial goblet
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Anyone want a 3070?

spice prawn
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Bitwit is not exactly a technical channel

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so, not exactly my speed

lone pond
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Exactly why I like him

spice prawn
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and that is fair :)

lone pond
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But I also love the technical side of things too any channels that focus on that?

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Other that gamers nexus

jovial goblet
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Ltt

spice prawn
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level1tech

lone pond
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Duh

jovial goblet
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They get technical every now and then

spice prawn
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and techtechpotato

lone pond
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Everybody know ltt

spice prawn
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no, that last one is not a joke

lone pond
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Lol tech tech potato

spice prawn
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its the cpu editior in chief of anandtech

lone pond
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What's that

spice prawn
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anandtech?

lone pond
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Yeah

spice prawn
#

a very well respected tech site

lone pond
#

Ok

spice prawn
#

known for their VERY long in depth articles on things

#

what they call deep dives

lone pond
#

Never used it I bought all my parts at micro center

spice prawn
#

its not a vendor site

lone pond
#

Is not ok

#

Well then

stark ocean
#

Hello anybody here

wraith plover
#

hey guys. Do you think for streaming and gaming a 5600x and a 3080 is a good idea or do i need to splurge for the 5900x

mellow condor
#

Well you got Nvec encoding so..

prime sapphire
#

ccc

wraith plover
#

@mellow condor does nvec make cpu usage useless"

shy lava
#

is it more worth to buy reference or wait for aib prices to drop as amd promised in about a month or two (which i doubt will happen)

#

im planning to overclock which is why im debating

steel smelt
#

The scarcity of graphics cards right now, and the prices, are crazy.

exotic vine
#

anyone know when a 3070fe is going in stock??

lone pond
oak sky
#

One 3070 on amazon rn for $1100

#

cringe

exotic vine
#

oh great, next year

#

lmao

sinful falcon
#

What do you guys think about the website adorama to get a gpu?

sinful falcon
#

is it trusted?

earnest cargo
#

idk who that is

sinful falcon
#

its a website lol

lone pond
#

i've never heard of it

#

maybe it's because i'm not in the us (?)

valid sundial
#

I've heard of it

sinful falcon
#

would you buy from it

valid sundial
#

Personally, no

sinful falcon
#

good enough for me

valid sundial
#

I wouldn't buy from vuugo either

#

but that's just my opinion

sinful falcon
#

never heard of vuugo

spice prawn
#

@sinful falcon both vuugo and adorama are solid enough vendor sites

sinful falcon
#

Ok thanks

sullen nest
#

Anyone know a way to get any 30 series graphics cards?

lone pond
#

Prebuilts.

#

Other than that you gotta wait for stock to arrive.

valid sundial
green harness
#

Camping out at Microcenter seems like one of the more reliable ways to get one, but who has the time?

lone pond
tardy jungle
#

When 5700XT will be back on CA stock ?

glad sigil
#

@burnt parcel how?

burnt parcel
#

Zotac drops like every night around 9pm-latest of 3am est

lone pond
#

Nice.

burnt parcel
#

their website is trash tho you theres special steps you gotta take

glad sigil
#

Can someone help me get a 3080?

scarlet locust
#

||wait for stock and type as fast as you can||

#

or wait for stock to stabilize sometime in 2021

glad sigil
#

I'm trying to get my build done by the end of this year

scarlet locust
#

ah yeah youll just have to be lucky then

#

and hope you find one

eternal locust
#

When everyone gets their GPUs finally lets all play a game together

sullen nest
#

i hate how long its going to take for everyone to be able to get one lol

lone pond
#

i want to upgrade my rx 570 but idk what to go to since i dont want bottleneck anything

pure pond
bronze hound
#

most people are going with ryzen 5 3600+ with 3070

#

oh

frigid hound
#

are there any 5600xt's there are not overpriced right now?

delicate elbow
#

So what, are people getting banned for refreshing newegg too much?

fervent obsidian
#

?

lone pond
#

Also your upgrade path is like 1660/5600 xt or 5700 xt/2060/2070

#

that is what i plan on

#

i got a prebuilt sadly cause im too scared to actually build a pc but its a ryzen 3 2300x i want to go to a 5600 xt but now im thinking a 1660 super

eternal locust
#

@lone pond what mobo did it come with?

lone pond
#

its a stupid a320

eternal locust
#

oh :/ i was bouta say you could easily perform an upgrade

lone pond
#

yeah

eternal locust
#

but guess you'd need a newer board

lone pond
#

so i would need a newer board to get an upgrade of any kind?

eternal locust
#

yeah

lone pond
#

hm

eternal locust
#

You'd want a B550 or an X570

lone pond
#

Newer board, new cpu and check your psu too, could be a bomb.

#

yeah ik lmao

eternal locust
#

Ik it can be kinda scary but doing your own building is pretty simple plugging the right stuff in

lone pond
#

hm

#

All you really need is a screwdriver and a manual...and a working brain
It is very simple.

#

well would there even be a point to go to something like an rx 580? could that work

#

Rx 580 would be a very small upgrade.

#

Not worth.

#

yeah i thought so

#

i just kinda wanted to do an upgrade on my gpu but if i have to do all this then im not too sure what to do

eternal locust
#

Wait so first priority is a GPU?

lone pond
#

yeah my 570 does well just i want to be able to run games coming in the future a bit better

#

I would save up though.

#

You 570 will do fine.

eternal locust
#

If you wanna upgrade the CPU for starters I'd start doing lots of curiosity driven research on boards compatible with the Zen 3 CPUs

lone pond
#

ok

#

yeah

eternal locust
#

It's pretty fun looking at all the different pricing and considering features you want

lone pond
#

im questioning now what i should do with this pc

#

pretty much most of it needs to be changed

eternal locust
#

For starters what PSU do you have

lone pond
#

a 600 watt

eternal locust
#

very nice 🤓

lone pond
#

ty ty

#

not too sure much else

eternal locust
#

a 600W is still respectable

#

you can work with that for now

lone pond
#

so pretty much change mobo and cpu and gpu

#

?

eternal locust
#

Yeah those are the main things your memory DDR4?

lone pond
#

yeah

#

its just 8 gigs 3000

eternal locust
#

you can still use that fine

lone pond
#

ok well i planed on getting around 300 or probably more for christmas which i was going to upgrade gpu and get 16 gigs

eternal locust
#

so if you're set on a 5600x which is what id be looking into maybe peep the B550 boards on the market that fit your price range and features you want

#

and your case is a midtower ATX im guessing?

lone pond
#

yeah seems so

eternal locust
#

not a micro or mini

#

cool you can get any basic ATX motherboard in there

lone pond
#

so what motherboard and cpu should i go with then gpu

eternal locust
#

Okay so I'd get a B550 with a Ryzen 5600x

#

theres some good deals on the B550s with wifi and all the good stuff youd want

lone pond
#

Ok

eternal locust
#

I mean it doesnt have to be a 5600x

#

but thats the new thing rn

lone pond
#

what about a 1600 af

eternal locust
#

hard to get your hands on if you need something rn youd be fine with a 3600x for a good price

#

That would do the job fine as well

lone pond
#

i would probably plan on that

eternal locust
#

the 1600 as in the first gen AMD?

clear pier
#

@lone pond HOW DID YOU GET IT

lone pond
#

no

#

i spammed zotac

#

the af model

clear pier
#

that works

lone pond
#

they probs the only viable place

ripe ivy
#

The 1600AF is pretty much a lower binned 2600

lone pond
#

amazon and whatever u have no chance cause of bots

#

yeah but its pretty much a 2600 though right

toxic pier
#

is this a good deal for a 570

eternal locust
#

Then nah id pass on that and get something a bit newer Zen 2 or Zen 3

ripe ivy
#

The reason it exists is because AMD still has a lot of Gloflo 12nm Silicon to use

#

And the 1600 is a popular cpu in certain regions

lone pond
#

then what cpu should i go with then without going too much

ripe ivy
#

What does that mean?

#

Like go over budget?

lone pond
#

yeha i mean that

ripe ivy
#

What's your budget?

lone pond
#

well i just planned on using money from christmas

prime bane
#

Well guys how can i get a rtx 3070 😔

fervent obsidian
#

a little bit of magic and patience

lone pond
#

like around 400 i would say

fervent obsidian
#

and one will appear

clear pier
#

really good luck

lone pond
#

but i want to upgrade my mobo and maybe my gpu

eternal locust
#

You'd be willing to drop $400 on a CPU alone?

ripe ivy
#

400, that's rough but it can be done

lone pond
#

yeah

eternal locust
#

or thats your overall budget?

lone pond
#

pretty much

ripe ivy
#

400 towards those components?

eternal locust
#

Okay so 400 for overall upgrades

lone pond
#

yeah pretty much

ripe ivy
#

What are you working with right now?

eternal locust
#

most of that money gonna go towards the GPU likely

prime bane
#

I really can't wait my first pc is arriving soon and this f card is always out of stock

lone pond
#

its a prebuilt but its a ryzen 2300x and a 570

eternal locust
#

hmmm

ripe ivy
#

Any idea what the power supply is?

lone pond
#

im too scared to build a pc

eternal locust
#

he said issa 600W

lone pond
#

its 600 watts

eternal locust
#

probably a generic brand

lone pond
#

probably :/

eternal locust
#

no big deal

prime bane
ripe ivy
#

Is it a cyberpower or something?

lone pond
#

yeah

#

it is

ripe ivy
#

I think they use like some generic brand then, but it's probably Okay. Would be worth swapping out if it's really old. Though from the sounds of it it's only got a couple years

lone pond
#

i got this pc a month ago

ripe ivy
#

Really, with those specs? That's strange

eternal locust
#

Was it on sale?

#

probably discounted

lone pond
#

ok well its a long story but a friend bought it for me

eternal locust
#

oh okat

lone pond
#

my family didnt get it

ripe ivy
#

Some PC they had sitting around for a while and no one was buying

lone pond
#

well i found it on best buy and it seemed popular

#

i can find a link to it if you want

ripe ivy
#

It could help to know, but I'm familiar with Cyberpower and what they typically use

eternal locust
#

how much was it out of curiosity?

lone pond
#

600

#

i think

eternal locust
#

damn

lone pond
#

at least i didnt buy it lol

eternal locust
#

Yeah I mean the market is weird sometimes with pre builts in terms of pricing

ripe ivy
#

It doesn't seem like a bad set up, you could probably get a 2600 or something and put it in there no problem and that could work for a while honestly

#

Save up for something better overall

eternal locust
#

yeah he could get a 2600x for cheap

lone pond
#

so maybe what i actually should do is upgrade my cpu then i want to upgrade my ram to 16 gigs

eternal locust
#

a single stick of 8 wouldnt be expensive

lone pond
#

yeah but i dont know what brand the ram is

ripe ivy
#

Eh get a kit of 2x16 and replace the 1

lone pond
#

yeah i kinda planned on that

ripe ivy
#

Err sorry 2x8

#

That's what I meant

eternal locust
#

he goes straight to 32 gb lol

ripe ivy
#

I mean it wouldn't be a bad idea phaWesker

lone pond
#

actually you said i need to upgrade my mobo too

#

right

eternal locust
#

well it depends

ripe ivy
#

Most likely for a CPU upgrade, like if you wanted to get the brand new Ryzen

eternal locust
#

if you just doing a 2600 then not really but if you concerned with having something compatible for newer cpus then yes

lone pond
#

ok then

#

so mine should be fine

eternal locust
#

but in terms of saving money rn just keep what you have

#

bro why are the 2600s sold out rn on newegg

ripe ivy
#

A 570 will do fine at 1080p for most things, the latest games you might have to turn down settings. Especially if it's a 4gb model

eternal locust
#

people really raided everything

#

lol

lone pond
#

its a 4 gb

ripe ivy
#

At 1080p typically though, for most things

#

4gb is enough for even high settings

eternal locust
#

unless it's a game like Rust

#

lol

lone pond
#

well i was looking at far cry 6 system requirments which could change but from what i saw my 570 was a minimum

ripe ivy
#

Well I don't play that, but yeah I'm sure every other game is Vram hungry phaWesker

eternal locust
#

or Ark lol that game will tank almost every GPU on ultra settings even in 1080

ripe ivy
#

Um, wow

#

Yeah I see GTX 970, R9 380 for minimum

lone pond
#

yeah

ripe ivy
#

I need an upgrade phaWesker

lone pond
#

yeah i just wanted to upgrade my gpu

ripe ivy
#

Well not that I want to play Far Cry 6

lone pond
#

yeah same

#

but it seems

#

games are getting way more harder to run

ripe ivy
#

But I mean if the recommended cards are starting to be 1080, 1070Ti, 5700 whatever

#

I need a better card

lone pond
#

oh also could i get away with a 1660 super or would that not work

eternal locust
#

if you can get one for msrp lol

ripe ivy
#

Yeah that's pretty good, it's like 1070ish performance

lone pond
#

well originally i wanted just 16 gigs of ram and that

eternal locust
#

the market is fked rn

ripe ivy
#

Everyone wants an upgrade, so it's no easy task

lone pond
#

so well i can get a 1660 super?

#

well if i can find one

ripe ivy
#

If you can find one that isn't inflated in price, then it would be fine

lone pond
#

ok

#

that answers the questioning ive been looking for

#

what the heck did i just say

#

whatever

#

whenever i can then ill try sometime later to upgrade my cpu and mobo

winter eagle
#

im trying to get a 3080 does anyone know where

lone pond
lone pond
#

Armor cooling is bad, you don't want that
Plus 195$ of a 570? Thats absolute terrible of a deal.

toxic pier
#

ok

#

ill just wait for the 1660 super

lone pond
#

Or you can get a used 570 on ebay
Used

#

If you gonna wait

#

Though.meh

lean iron
#

no 1660 supers on sale

#

😔

toxic pier
#

they're all overpriced

lone pond
#

Is the 3070 going to last 4 years if I'm only using it to play AAA games at medium-high settings and competitive games low settings 1440p?

lone pond
#

🤔

#

But uh...sure i guess?

#

is that not how you ask that kind of question

#

asking if a card will last a certain amount of time based off your monitor res and games youre playing

#

No...it is because you are asking a question that only a time traveler would known lol

#

We don't known if AAA graphics gonna evolve in 4 years
It could be a big evolution
Or just a small one.

#

the 3070 is as good as a 2080 ti

#

or actually a bit better

#

I mean its possible to make a prediction based off of trends with previous gpus and the current rate of AAA game evolution

#

unless im totally wrong and I shouldnt have listened to the people that told me that the 1080ti would last 4 years in 2016

lucid karma
#

Okay so does a factory overclock make any actual difference? Is there a point in getting a reference card as opposed to paying more for the zotac amp holo or the msi gaming x trio or whatever

lone pond
ripe ivy
#

Really the selling point is the cooler and how the AIB's customize the board for their cards

lucid karma
#

So is there a particular card I should go for?

thorn prairie
#

Finally got me a 750ti cheers mate

lucid karma
#

I wish I had any card lol

hoary temple
#

Ayo 2 options Rx 5600xt or gtx 1660 super ?

static rock
#

5600xt

#

unless you stream/video edit, in that case probably 1660s

hoary temple
#

mostly gaming I might stream but if I do get into it I’ll sell the rx5600xt and get a 1660super

#

Ty

lucid karma
#

Okay but any particular 3080 that I should look to get?

fervent obsidian
#

asus tuf is nice

lucid karma
#

Which has best cooling (since I guess besides looks, cooling is the only major difference)

lone pond
fervent obsidian
#

asus tuf probably

#

look up a review

thorn prairie
#

Feels nice to atleast run games at low hope you guys are having a good time as well

lone pond
#

After playing with a hd 2000 for 8 years, able to see 60 fps is really nice.

shy lava
#

ok i have some info
so the 6800xt reference when overclocked can get junction temps of up to 91c which does sound pretty bad
would waiting for aib be better?

ripe ivy
#

91c junction temps is nothing, if it were 120 that would be concerning

#

But from what I've seen, yes the high end AIB models seem to be really good

shy lava
#

well i dont think the tuf is a high end model so

ripe ivy
#

Well don't bother with Asus for Radeon tbh

#

Sapphire, Powercolor or XFX. Those are the three to look at for Radeon

shy lava
#

ah ok

#

ty

ripe ivy
#

Asus might get their stuff together for once on the Radeon side

#

But I would wait for reviews

lone pond
#

Sapphire has a good track record on cooling for radeon cards

shy lava
#

i havent seen any so asus has extremely limited cards

#

only time i seen it was scalped prices on shopblt

green harness
ripe ivy
#

Well yeah of course, my point is Asus has a pretty bad recent track record with making radeon cards.

shy lava
#

so keep an eye on sapphire powercolor or xfx got out

#

ty ty

ripe ivy
#

There are reviews of their cards out already

lucid karma
#

So Asus for the 3080

wicked blaze
#

Does anyone know of a 2060 in stock at a decent price? Everything I can find is around $500.

lucid karma
#

Yeah a lot of cards have bad pricing currently

shy lava
#

ok i have my eye on the merc319 and nitro+ non se

#

they look really good

#

i dont think there is a review out for the nitro+ but there is one for the merc319

#

the se version of the nitro+ just adds argb fans im guessing

wicked blaze
#

Yeah I'm not sure, for some reason whenever I look or think of a graphics card I just think of a 2080

#

Or just nvidia in general

thorn prairie
shy lava
#

im ultimately keeping my eye on the nitro+ non se

lone pond
thorn prairie
lone pond
#

I'm looking to upgrade from my gtx 1660 super what should I get

lone pond
thorn prairie
lone pond
#

Lol

ancient crater
#

can someone give me a decently priced gpu for this pc build

eternal locust
#

I dunno a 1660 super prolly

#

Maybe a 1650

#

Maybe a 5600XT

#

Something around there would be good

#

@ancient crater

ancient crater
#

i was thinking 1650 but its going for 400 rn

#

and rx 5500 xt bc its better n goes for 250ish

#

the price isnt accurate on this but the specs are

#

uhh i cant send a link

fervent obsidian
#

250 for 5500xt aint worth

ancient crater
#

really?

ripe ivy
#

It retails for much less than that

ancient crater
#

mm i see

lone pond
#

Don't get a 1650 unless you are doing a sff build.

ancient crater
#

whats a sff build

#

@lone pond

lone pond
#

Small form factor

ancient crater
#

what does that mean

lucid karma
#

Small pc

ancient crater
#

oh

lucid karma
#

Where does the 5700xt stack up against nvidia cards

ripe ivy
#

It's pretty much 1080 Ti performance, trading blows with the 2070 Super and 2080 at times

lucid karma
#

Oh

#

Wow

ripe ivy
#

To give you an idea

#

It seems like it's a solid 1080p card, and it will be for a while. And it's still decent for 1440p

lucid karma
#

Oh sweet

#

Perfect card for my sister then

opaque stratus
#

Lol

#

that's true?, the 5700xt beating the 3070

ripe ivy
#

Just at 1080p in that game

#

It's losing at 1440

opaque stratus
#

yeah but either way beating a 3070 on 1080p is pretty impressive xd

#

and isn't losing too much on 1440p

#

man since i buy my 2060 super, everywhere i go is always talking about the 5700xt, feels bad man

lone pond
#

5700 xt beating 3070? Lmao what kinda of graphic is that

green harness
#

Who uses a 3070 for 1080p?

ripe ivy
#

No one I hope

green harness
#

Same. Just a waste at that point, with the exception perhaps of when someone is using ray-tracing

fervent obsidian
#

eh 3070 is acceptable for 1080p

ripe ivy
#

But that's obviously not the case, there are ill informed consumers that will get the latest graphics card without thinking about the display they're playing on

green harness
#

The Ampere cards, as far as I understand (which may not be very far!), scale better at 1440p and 4k

sullen nest
#

But you have to think about how expensive nice monitors are

knotty iris
#

Question, how much better is the Zotac amp holo compared to the Trinity?

wispy meteor
#

should I get 6800xt or 3070?

#

649 for 6800xt and i believe 499 for 3070 so basically spending 150 dollars more

#

for rx

real echo
#

I guess it depends on what you want. I heard Nvidia has better divers, more game optimization, dlss and better ray tracing. But 6800xt is very powerful for gaming as well, just not at 4k

#

Also the price difference

gritty notch
#

30 series cards arent made for 1080p

real echo
#

If you got 650$ then I'd just pitch in 50$ more and get 3080

lone pond
green harness
sullen nest
#

But you can get a great gpu with an okay 1080p monitor and then get a 1440+ monitor down the line without getting both newb

#

New*

lone pond
real echo
#

Are they even releasing a dlss for amd?

#

Also, Nvidia has a bunch of other drivers for streamers that amd currently does not have

lone pond
#

And nothing about any DLSS equivalent feature on amd side.

sonic crypt
#

@ripe ivy i use a 3070 for 1080p gaming but I usually spend a bit more as I don’t plan on building a new pc until 4-5 years

ripe ivy
#

Better than using a 2080Ti for 1080p I guess, like it's the same performance but for the longest time that was a $1200 card so phaWesker

sonic crypt
#

😂

real echo
#

@lone pond yeah I meant to ask for a dlss equivalent on amd. They really need it for 4k gaming. But amd is better in 1080p and 2k resolutions

daring tusk
#

they plan on making something similar to DLSS but who knows how that would perform

ripe ivy
#

They're working on something called Super Resolution

humble niche
#

3070 for 1080p makes sense for high refresh rate monitors though

ripe ivy
#

Eh, I think lower tier cards are solid high refresh 1080 cards

daring tusk
#

what about 3070 for 1080p 60HRz

#

lol

#

not overkill at all

south flower
#

Does anyone have the Gigabyte AMD Radeon 5700XT video card and would you recommend it?

ripe ivy
#

The Gigabyte Gaming one?

#

That is one of the better cards, cools pretty well

south flower
#

Ya, Gaming OC 8G

eternal locust
#

It's disgusting what the third party rats have done with that card

#

putting it at like 600

south flower
#

I bought it by accident and was gonna send it back because I wanted nVidia but it looks like most places are out of video cards in general.

ripe ivy
#

How much did you get it for?

south flower
#

I just found out newegg's not getting/selling nvidia 1070 or 1080 cards anymore.

ripe ivy
#

Well yeah those are old cards

clear frigate
#

Newegg tweets of 3070 combo restock checks immediately and gone

ripe ivy
#

For the record the 5700XT is pretty much on par with the 1080Ti

#

So if you're wondering about where it stands in terms of performance

south flower
#

I think mine was $419 BF sale.

ripe ivy
#

Yeah that's its price I think, not on sale. It was going for $380 for a while on Newegg with a promo

vernal basin
#

how much should i pay for a 5500xt

ripe ivy
#

4gb or 8gb?

fervent obsidian
#

nothing over 200

vernal basin
#

4gb

ripe ivy
#

Like $170 or less

barren hull
#

Which graphics card is better: AMD Radeon 6900XT or NVIDIA GeForce 3090

worn gazelle
#

@barren hull you will have to wait for the reviews

lone pond
#

I don’t think third party benchmarks for the 6900xt are out

barren hull
#

ok

lone pond
#

So not possible to say atm

barren hull
#

cuz i wanna know wheter to wake up 1 am launch day for the 6900XT to buy it or just get the 3090

lone pond
#

Rumor is that 6900xt performs much better than expected in spite of the price difference

barren hull
#

ok

#

do you know which one performs better in minecraft?

lone pond
#

Overclocked 6800xt has been close to 3090 in extreme cases

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You mean Minecraft rtx?

barren hull
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just normal minecraft

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the FPS

lone pond
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Uhh well both of them would be extremely overkill if you’re just playing Minecraft

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A 3070 can run Minecraft at 300-500fps

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ok

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but do you know which one is better

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just wondering

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cuz if i am running a shader pack plus a resource pack it will really drain the fps

lone pond
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No, as I said the 6900xt hasn’t been benchmarked as it’s not released to the public so it’s up to our speculations as to which one is better

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oh

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k

lone pond
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Do you mean the RTX shader?

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yes

lone pond
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In that case nvidia >and

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Amd

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ok

lone pond
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Because amd’s ray tracing is only first gen vs nvidia second gen ray tracing

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And so nvidia does much better in games that utilize ray tracing

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ok

faint kindle
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I don’t personally notice a huge difference in ray tracing on vs off on Cold War, but haven’t experienced it much in other games yet

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ok

lone pond
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@barren hull keep in mind though the 3090 is $1500

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yeah

faint kindle
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My FPS sure does though

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ray tracing on I get like 80-90 FPS vs off 144+ (locked at 144, not sure what I get unlocked)

barren hull
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is there a big difference raytracing between first gen and second gen?

lone pond
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AMD first gen ray tracing is not as good as nvidia’s second gen

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in what way

lone pond
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Nvidia gets higher frames in games that utilize ray tracing

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ok

lone pond
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Than AMD

barren hull
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so then i should get the 3090 then

lone pond
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are you willing to spend 1.5k?

barren hull
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hmm

lone pond
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IMO you'd be fine with a 3080

barren hull
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maybe if it worth the price

lone pond
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but if you want to dump all that money then sure go for it

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Imagine buying a 6900XT to play minecraft

lone pond
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^

barren hull
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it drains fps to 20 when raytracing

lone pond
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for that price you could build a whole 3080 system

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ok

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oh

lone pond
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if all you need it for is RTX minecraft, then 3080 should be plenty

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ok

worthy siren
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hello everyone

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won't let me send pc build link in the chat

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😦

lone pond
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DM it to me

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ok

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there

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i dm

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i dm'd you

lone pond
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3070 in stock

barren hull
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oh ok

lone pond
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grab fast

barren hull
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leme send it

lone pond
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@lone pond it says it is a reservation order 😦

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Backorder

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you still get the card

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there

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my pc build

lone pond
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who recommended him a 6900 xt

barren hull
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it was my choice

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3090 was overpiced

lone pond
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@lone pond I already have gigabyte card but I wish now I had bought this since I got mine as a bundle and wasted money 😦