graphics-cards

[spice prawn]

that time was a much simpler time in a lot of ways :)

[vagrant phoenix]

Let’s see if you recognize this

It is computing related but not PC...

[spice prawn]

i do not

also, keep in mind, not based in the States

so regional differences :)

[vagrant phoenix]

Oh they were worldwide...it is an IBM 3850 Mass Storage Device for mainframes. It held about 50 Mb of data and one robotic silo would manage about 10000 of these. I took one home from my datacenter when we retired Johnny, our robot. 🙂

Inside is a coil of magnetic tape

[spice prawn]

nope, not seen one of those before :)

[vagrant phoenix]

Most folks nowadays haven't

[spice prawn]

and then again

i just looked it up

i have seen the honeycomb part of the deployment

[vagrant phoenix]

Oh cool!

[spice prawn]

but never the cartridges themselves

[vagrant phoenix]

Not many, if any, around anymore

[spice prawn]

its been many many years since i saw it

as in, i can practically feel the dust being shovelled out me ears just talking about it

[vagrant phoenix]

Those silos were huge...now we can fit a petabyte of virtual tape in one server rack. It is nuts

[spice prawn]

aye

this is perhaps a tangent

but that is one of the things i think is a shame that we have lost

the appreciation for how far we have come

[vagrant phoenix]

Indeed

[spice prawn]

people are very much of the opinion that "my phone is slow!"

your phone is 100 mainframes, in your pocket

[vagrant phoenix]

100 old mainframes, but yeah very true

[spice prawn]

aye aye

and yes, ofc, they dont remotely compare to a modern one :)

[vagrant phoenix]

Yes. THe ones I support now are ridiculously powerful.

[spice prawn]

i just personally think that IF there was a bit more appreciation for the progress, there might, just might, be a bit less hype about it all

[vagrant phoenix]

Just the fact that basically everyone has a phone (even poor folks) is amazing

[spice prawn]

and its not that i dont want to "share" my field with everyone

i very much do

[vagrant phoenix]

I remember when dad brought home our first cell phone...it was in a bag about 10x10 inches and plugged into the cigarette lighter of the car. And it cost $1000 to buy, and about $100 a month for 30 minutes of talk time

Local only

[spice prawn]

:)

[vagrant phoenix]

Aye...it is the consumerism that Steve at GN loathes so much

[spice prawn]

aye, that is a part of it

but for me at least, its also the lack of appreciation for the ease of use and access

[vagrant phoenix]

Yes. I will sound like a luddite but I blame the internet and the instant access to information

[spice prawn]

hmm

i dont disagree with your sentiment

[vagrant phoenix]

I think I just put myself into a depression lol

[spice prawn]

thank fully you have easy access to the internet, its totally ready to tell you all the things thats wrong with you!

[vagrant phoenix]

lol

[spice prawn]

so why stop at just a depression

fairly certain it will suggest everything BUT a depression

i personally take solace in the once in a bluemoon that i have a chat with someone like you

[vagrant phoenix]

probably so...my problem is i was born at the wrong time. id love to be back around 1850 or so

[spice prawn]

because that means all is not forgotten

[vagrant phoenix]

agreed sir. there is still a place for us slow timers

[spice prawn]

aye, thankfully :)

[vagrant phoenix]

what part of the world are you in?

[spice prawn]

scandinavia

[vagrant phoenix]

Ahh, a Viking!

[spice prawn]

aye

[vagrant phoenix]

well hell i knew i liked you

Texas here

[spice prawn]

that explain some of the word choices :D

[lone pond]

ive looked at allot of old tech stuff but ive never seen 1 of those

[vagrant phoenix]

Yes I am pretty informal and often colorful in my language

howdy wallabi

[spice prawn]

just be aware that the bot can get cranky about curse words

and words used in negative ways

[vagrant phoenix]

yah i don't curse on here...too many kids around

[spice prawn]

indeed

[lone pond]

geez 472 gigs on those things wow

oh the entire system nm

was about to say rofl

[spice prawn]

now look at when its from @lone pond :)

[lone pond]

thats still allot

though for the 70's yea

[spice prawn]

remember, when we got to 1996, a 420meg HDD was a big drive

[vagrant phoenix]

we had those up until around 1986

[balmy magnet]

1998 i bought a 2.1GB drive, ah the old days lol

[vagrant phoenix]

And keep in mind, one silo took up probably 300-400 square feet of floor space...plus all the controllers, SNA switches, etc

[spice prawn]

@balmy magnet Quantum?

[vagrant phoenix]

420mb was the size exactly that I had in that 486

[spice prawn]

aye, it was a popular size/price model

[lone pond]

i dont remember what was in my 386 was to young..

[spice prawn]

as in Quantum Fireball @balmy magnet

[balmy magnet]

not sure what it was TBH, at that time I was but the learner lol

a friend who built PCs at that time took me to a computer show at the Montgomery Co Fairgrounds in Dayton, they had a monthly show

[vagrant phoenix]

The Tandy 286 my dad bought had a 10mb HDD. We thought it was hot stuff when he upgraded it to 50

[viral elbow]

it was plenty back then

[lone pond]

my grandma had a tandy lol..

[viral elbow]

500gb and 1tb was only a “standard” since late 2000

[vagrant phoenix]

They were great PCs at the time

1TB wasn't breached until 2007

In 2000 an affordable amount of storage was around 50gb

And to think I just paid about $250 for a 2TB NVME PCIE 4 SSD

That 50gb in 2000 was about the same price or slightly more

[viral elbow]

Yea...

And I think the trend now is to make them faster instead of bigger

So we probably won’t have 20TB as the new standard until 15 years later

[lone pond]

i have 76 terabytes 😄

[viral elbow]

[vagrant phoenix]

Yep...bigger goes on spinners

I only have 24

4x6 in my Synology 916+

[lone pond]

i bought a ibm slicestor 3448 off ebay last year and replaced my ms60 jbod

there is still some for sale, but he took the raid cards out of the 1s he has left

[vagrant phoenix]

Probably more valuable as replacements

[lone pond]

yea there sas 3 12gbs cards

i just have it full of 2tb hard drives right now in raid6

2tb drives dont hurt the wallet to much

[vagrant phoenix]

Elegant solution

[lone pond]

some day it will be full of 10tb hds, when there like 30 bucks each

some day...

[spice prawn]

hdd's generally dont go much below 50usd

[vagrant phoenix]

What can you possibly ever fill that up with? 😂

[lone pond]

used

well

😄

[vagrant phoenix]

Kangaroo porn?

[lone pond]

apart from the usal suspects

i like to scrape the internet

[spare relic]

[lone pond]

haha

also i like to make net maps

of the internet

hobby, personal

[vagrant phoenix]

interesting

[lone pond]

i use a sunefire t5440 right now as my scraper/mapper etc

should start boting and scalping graphics cards but im not a lame

i have moral values

[vagrant phoenix]

Someone called me a scalper because I put up a screenshot of my 3090 order to show someone else you could actualyl find them

Was pretty funny

you down under?

[lone pond]

las vegas

just my fav animal

[vagrant phoenix]

oh down under has a whole other meaning there

ahh hes playing a guitar...i was like "what's that red thing?!"

[lone pond]

whoever made that did a good job lol

[vagrant phoenix]

yes its pretty good

[fresh vale]

so

guys

i am thinking about making a pc

what should I buyu

my budget is maximum 2000 $

ny tips??

[lone pond]

3080 and 5000 series cpu

[lone pond]

you can get very nice parts with that budget

i would recommend asking for a complete pcpp lists in #building-and-recc-chat

[fickle turtle]

anyone manage a 6800xt?

[errant garnet]

Nope can't get 6800 xt or 3080 been trying to . Bs

[frail whale]

@fickle turtle sadly no, ill with for the asus one i geuss

[fickle turtle]

seems like only the bots managed to get some

[fringe mural]

yea I went from an empty result page to out-of-stock

I never saw the add-to-cart button🤣 😆 😩 😭

[eternal locust]

Yall seen any of the hardware review videos on the 6800 yet?

https://youtu.be/-Y26liH-poM

[kind wigeon]

Yall seen any of the hardware review videos on the 6800 yet?
@eternal locust watch linus's take

i've seen the benches... this time, amd is close, but doesn't quite yet beat nvidia

[limber flax]

And it doesn't have the slew of features Nvidia has

[eternal locust]

Did yall watch the video?

[limber flax]

Nope lol

Will get to it

[eternal locust]

The 3070 kinda gets beat in all the games

[halcyon python]

It’s also a bit cheaper though

[limber flax]

Unless you turn on rtx

Or if you run dlss

Nvidia also beats amd in most workstation

[halcyon python]

I saw linus’ video and it confirmed I want an nvidia card lol

Plus nvidia is working on their version or SAM (I forget the name of it) which could make it even better

[limber flax]

Oh yeah sam

Forgot about that

[sand hull]

Well, after getting beat by bots yesterday and the release of the 30 series cards, which ever of the two cards I can get: 6800xt or 3080, Ill be getting

[night vault]

I think that’s fair

I just want good ray tracing and nvenc will be nice so ima go for a 3060 or 3060ti

[eternal locust]

6800 beats 3070 in performance in Nvidia optimized games Nvidia fan boys "but we have raytracing! and better drivers! also that card is more money so it makes sense!

[night vault]

I play at 1080p so I don’t care about the whole DLSS upscaling stuff

1080p gamers not getting much love these releases

All of these is p overkill

[eternal locust]

literally cant even afford a 4k monitor

[dusk oasis]

someone knows how i can get a 3070?

[night vault]

I play mainly competetice games so I don’t need high res

You gotta wait for them to come in stock @dusk oasis

They’re sold out

[eternal locust]

@dusk oasis some guy said he was able to get one on amazon every few days at 9am est

[night vault]

Yeah they normally restock near that time

Web alerts maybe!

?*

[eternal locust]

I dunno how often that is

but he said every few days he buys one for a customer pre build for like $550

[dusk oasis]

Yeah they normally restock near that time
@night vault But sold out in 0.00001seconds

[eternal locust]

Zoinks

[night vault]

Yeah I never said it would be easy

Everyone wants one, no one can get one

So it’s tough luck honestly

[eternal locust]

Yeah its the most reasonably priced of the new cards

[night vault]

2080ti for 500$ :$)

[eternal locust]

most people dont wanna spend 700-1500 on a GPU

🥺

[night vault]

Yeah I can’t even utilize that beast with my 1080 60hz monitor

[eternal locust]

ON CRIP

[night vault]

I’m better off getting a gt 1030

[eternal locust]

I keep thinking I'm being a lil dumb for wanting such a high end card when my monitor will bottleneck it lol

but i can upgrade to a 1440 in half a year or so

[night vault]

Yeah I was going to try for 3070 but decided to wait

My 5700xt is more than enough, I just want Nvidia because of these drivers

I just updated them to the newest stable version and no issues so far

[eternal locust]

yeah thats a nice card for even 1440 it runs everything ultra

[night vault]

Seemed to fix most of my overheating stuff

Card overheated in the GTA V waiting screen lmfao

[brave veldt]

are there any issues on the ZOTAC 3080s?

[night vault]

Do you mean overdrawing power?

[eternal locust]

lol why GTA thats weird

[night vault]

Or bricking!

[dusk oasis]

i have a 1050 😦

[eternal locust]

that's more of a CPU driven game lol

funny glitch

[night vault]

Yeah I came into my room and my gpu was super hot and my power supply was a jet engine

Restarted it and all good

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eternal locust]

whoa

[night vault]

I think it was m y psu not sure

It was just super loud fan noises

I do have 5 case fans tho so coulda been them ramping up

[eternal locust]

your psu underpowered or something?

it shouldn't have to run that hard

[night vault]

It’s 700w

It was a weird occasion idk

[fickle turtle]

can i power a 5600x and 3080 with 750W?

[eternal locust]

that shoulda been more than enough

@fickle turtle yeah i think 750 is the minimum requirement for the 3080

you'll be fine

[night vault]

Yeah

Just make sure it’s a good one

So no overdraw tripping or whatever

Or atleast decent

I cheaped out on psu and wondering if I’ll regret it

It’s a 700w thermaltake

[eternal locust]

Which one?

[night vault]

The smart 80+ white

[eternal locust]

I have a thermaltake as well but it wasnt exactly cheap

[fickle turtle]

corsair never disappoint

[night vault]

It was that or some 180$ Corsair platinum thing

All Best Buy has

[fickle turtle]

except with their buggie iCUE

[night vault]

Had*

[eternal locust]

ugh

[night vault]

I hate icue

I have the Corsair void pro rgb elite things and it randomly bugs out

[eternal locust]

what model is it?

I think the Toughpower ones are decent from what ive read

[fickle turtle]

ya my aio pump rgb just freezes for no reason

[night vault]

It’s some thermaltake smart series

[fickle turtle]

and after a while the whole aio isnt recognized in icue

[night vault]

It’s like their budget series

[eternal locust]

thats what i got a toughpower gold 750W but shes a big girl

[night vault]

I plan to upgrade psu when I get a new gpu

[fickle turtle]

which 3080 should i go for?

[night vault]

But 5700xt and 3600 shouldn’t even run it

[fickle turtle]

any recommendations

[night vault]

@fickle turtle whichever one you can get LMAO

[eternal locust]

So i believe the smart series just means it adjusts the fan speed based on the power draw

[fickle turtle]

i saw a bunch in my local store at not much over retail

[night vault]

They’re nowhere to be seen

[eternal locust]

they all do that now

[fickle turtle]

even some 3090w

[night vault]

What

[fickle turtle]

for real

[night vault]

You found a lot at your local store?

[fickle turtle]

yea

here in dubai

[night vault]

Holy crap

Alright well uhh

[fickle turtle]

if u pay shipping i dont mind seding

they even have 3070s

[eternal locust]

thats brazy

[night vault]

Ah I’m good but you my friend are a lucky man

So basically

[fickle turtle]

^^

[night vault]

I believe a reviewer

Did a round up

[fickle turtle]

ill send pics once im back

[night vault]

Of like 5 3080s

[fickle turtle]

wish me luck

[night vault]

GL

[fickle turtle]

actually i need a few more mins my phone's importing pics to my pc

^^

[night vault]

https://youtu.be/g8mnvPEQ-ho haven’t watched this but maybe is informative

A lot of reviewers reviewed each one individually if you want to check them out, hardware unboxed did a few

[eternal locust]

i'll check it out

[fickle turtle]

i was leaning towards tthe TUF as well

hopefully i find it

[eternal locust]

always curious who makes best GPUs

havent heard of Palit

I think Asus makes nice stuff usually good thermals but i guess it all depends on the model not the brand

[fickle turtle]

whats one more rgb software when u already have tons

x

xD

[eternal locust]

lol

[exotic vine]

does anyone have a deal on a 3070 that they know about?

[eternal locust]

@exotic vine There's some available i just noticed on walmart but they all third party sellers so you already know what that means

the cheapest one is 850

[exotic vine]

bro a quadro is selling for cheaper for a 3070

such garbage

[eternal locust]

lol

[exotic vine]

i saw a 3070 selling for 650... should i take it?

it was a fe

[eternal locust]

Nah if you dont mind waiting wait

[exotic vine]

ive had my build sitting unfinished for 2 months

[eternal locust]

@exotic vine you have all your other parts im guessing and just need a GPU

[exotic vine]

i dont really feel like waiting anymore

[eternal locust]

yeah me too 😦

in the same boat

[exotic vine]

damn

it sucks bro

my ryzen 7 3700x and 32 gigs of ram sitting all alone

without a gpu

[eternal locust]

Everytime i see my mobo sitting on the dining room table with the 3700x and cooler in i think damn i need a gpu

[exotic vine]

fax mine has a towel over it so i dont have to look at it as much

[eternal locust]

dont even have descrete graphics lol

my empty case sitting on my desk next to the monitor lonely asf

[exotic vine]

lmaooo

its so bad

[eternal locust]

Literally

here i thought id have all my parts by now

[exotic vine]

i saved forever

and then i got my parts, and now i cant get the last part

[stoic folio]

Same I need graphic card too I want to play cyberpunk 2077

[eternal locust]

I know people advise against it but i started gathering my parts back in mid september just to get the best deal on each item

Like I know you supposed to buy everything at once in case you wanna return something

[exotic vine]

i honestly thought i would be on my amazing build rn

[eternal locust]

but when you see a 3700x for like 270 its kinda hard to pass up

[exotic vine]

seriously

[sinful crater]

@exotic vine im using a 1050ti as a placeholder

I have a 3700x to lel

[exotic vine]

i dont have a gpu, and i dont feel like getting one as a placeholder

[eternal locust]

I wanna get a placeholder but everything costs money like i keep thinking I should just pull the trigger on a 5700xt

[exotic vine]

noo get a nvidia

[eternal locust]

the orginal goal was always a 3070 lol

[stoic folio]

Might just pull the trigger and buy 2070s on black fday

[exotic vine]

rtx

same

[sinful crater]

Im borrowing the 1050ti 🥱

[exotic vine]

or a 2080ti if i can get a good price

[stoic folio]

^

[sinful crater]

^

[eternal locust]

plus my laptop uses a crappy AMD card so i kinda wanna see what an Nvida is like havent used one since like 2006 and that was nice

[exotic vine]

i cant believe that a multi billion dollar company cant keep up with demand even though they delayed launch specifically for stock

it just doesnt make sense

[eternal locust]

I think theres a reason for it

[exotic vine]

they are worth BILLIONS

[eternal locust]

to test the market and competition

[sinful crater]

@exotic vine silicon hard

[exotic vine]

it makes me want to not buy anyhitng nvidia

but i need it

for gaming stuff

nvidia should implement something so that there is no resale until like a year after launch so that scalpers are out of luck

they can do that, its their product

[vagrant phoenix]

Methinks it is a TSMC issue. Not and nvidia or AMD issue.

[limpid latch]

mr krabs just get a evga and do stepup if your worried about getting a card

[eternal locust]

the funny thing is you already know next year around this time 3070s gonna be on black friday sale and by then we already would have secured something

[exotic vine]

i just want a 3070

why is it so difficult

it shouldnt be

[stoic folio]

^

[limpid latch]

microcenter should have a legal action on any posts mentioned stating with reciept and from them lol same with newegg

[eternal locust]

Everyone building their own rigs during quarantine

[vagrant phoenix]

Because you have three major product launches with silicon all coming from the same factory

And what Big Dilf said

Massive demand atm

[limpid latch]

but it being a free market we cant do anything about it

[exotic vine]

why silicon coming from one factory

make another

they'll get more business

[eternal locust]

Literally just increase means of production

make more money

[vagrant phoenix]

Because TSMC is producing AMD’s Zen 3, Radeon and Nvidia Ampere chips

All at once

[exotic vine]

MAKE ANOTHER FACTORY

[limpid latch]

nvidia had the chance to use tsmc but they chose to wait and decide

[exotic vine]

THEY WILL MAKE THE MONEY BACK AND THEY KNOW IT

[vagrant phoenix]

$$$$$

[limpid latch]

then amd bought out the production slots

[vagrant phoenix]

Good point P...I forgot they moved from tsmc for now. NV is going back to them next year

[eternal locust]

TSMC have the monopoly or something? im not familiar with that abbreviation

[vagrant phoenix]

Krabs you cant run a massive company like that.

TSMC is a silicon manufacturer

[limpid latch]

tsmc is ahead in production node

i mean its not too much difference in quality just alittle better power efficentcy

[spice prawn]

@vagrant phoenix they didnt move

their Ampere production is split

consumer is on samsung

workstation and the other fun stuff is on TSMC

[vagrant phoenix]

So confusing lol

[limpid latch]

either way went from 1080ti so im done w/ upgrading for a while

unless intel has a good cpu eventually lol

[exotic vine]

they have ok cpus they just arent the best bang for buck

[vagrant phoenix]

They have good CPUs now. It’s just AMD is ahead atm

[exotic vine]

im just sick of waiting for a gpu

[vagrant phoenix]

When both are good, it is great

I missed it, which one are u trying to get?

[limpid latch]

just be patient krabs

[exotic vine]

3070

fe

[limpid latch]

i wish i was patient n not buy over priced n lose money a few times

i could have gotten a 3090 strix yesterday blah

[exotic vine]

this dude on facebook marketplace (ik, but im desperate) has 15 3070s for sale

what the hell

wait holy crap those are 3090s

he has 15 3090s

[vagrant phoenix]

Dang that’s almost $30k tied up in gpus lol

[limpid latch]

they prob got the money

[exotic vine]

i hope nobody buys them

i hope he goes broke and is homeless by next year

[limpid latch]

3090's are a harder sale tbh

[exotic vine]

what a scumbag

[vagrant phoenix]

Yep

X2

[exotic vine]

this dude has 2 3070s

[limpid latch]

i cant even unload my 3090 ventus at cost/tax if i wanted to get a different brand one

[dawn plover]

dang man if only he actually used all 15, i wouldn't be so mad, but nah that man decidedes to re sell them

[exotic vine]

the lowest i can find for a 3070 is god damn 750

[limpid latch]

3080 the ones that fly

[vagrant phoenix]

It’s the “gotta have it now” mentality though that enables those guys to do what they’re doing

[limpid latch]

yea i had that

[vagrant phoenix]

Language

[limpid latch]

esp w/ weather getting colder

waiting outside freezing your hands n feet

[exotic vine]

people are seling 3080s for 1000+

[limpid latch]

yep ppl buy them at 1100-1200

esp asus

[vagrant phoenix]

‘Tis silly

[exotic vine]

is a reg 2080 for 400 good?

[fluid star]

Market mess

[limpid latch]

if your gonna go that route just get a evga card and stepup

you may have to wait but you can trade up

cant be used/openbox, or refurbished

[exotic vine]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3683524528378364/

[limpid latch]

register it once you get it, go to stepup option select what you want and once its ready you send your card u bought in and then pay the differences at that point

ill tell you whats on the list for stepup right now atleast

[exotic vine]

this dude is selling a xbox series x for 400

[vagrant phoenix]

@exotic vine Is that the guy you’re mad at?

[exotic vine]

no, i mjust surprised hes selling it for that low

its a 1tb

[vagrant phoenix]

It’s a piece of paper lol

[limpid latch]

ftw3 3070

[vagrant phoenix]

With a 3070 printed on it

[exotic vine]

no hahaha i just thought that was funny

dudes selling a piece of paper with a 3070 on it

someone will probably buy it

[limpid latch]

yea theres a few ppl on ebay w/ that

i looked under my stepup, its all ftw3 cards on there 3070/80/90

[random pebble]

Anyone have any experience / knowledge with Optane drives...

[limpid latch]

just go buy a 1660/2060/2070 for time being w/ evga and wait it out

[lone pond]

upgrading from a 1060-3gb, should I go for an EVGA sc ultra 1660 ti, ASUS phoenix 2060 or a amd radeon rx 5500xt?

[dawn plover]

if you have the money go for a 2060 honestly

[lone pond]

im just a bit worried about the temperatures cuz its a single fan

[dawn plover]

oh then get a double fan?

or is there not enough space

[lone pond]

those are the only choices at the store next to me

[burnt parcel]

isnt the 5600xt better than the 2060 tho

[lone pond]

its a 5500xt

[burnt parcel]

is the 5500xt better too?

thats crazy

[dawn plover]

no

the 1650s is better than the 5500xt iirc

[lone pond]

Will you use PC for streaming?

[burnt parcel]

im not getting it but yes i would

[dawn plover]

i mean if those are your only options, and the 2060 is a single fan, then i'd say get the 1660ti out of those three options

[lone pond]

nah just gaming

NVENC would be important but depends if you want a good stream

[dawn plover]

but honestly you should probs order online, theres more out there than just that store

[lone pond]

oh right didnt think of that, ill give it a check, but thanks alot guys

[sacred crow]

Should I be waiting until next year for the new gpu stock to stabilize?

[limpid latch]

well you can always keep an eye for them if you really want to

[sacred crow]

Yeah trying to make a pc for christmas, but not sure how stock will look

[warped osprey]

1070ti vs 2060 super? which is better for gaming and rendering

[halcyon nova]

Well 2060 got ray tracing

And I think 1660tis better

[fervent obsidian]

2060s

[high tangle]

anyoen know when the best times are to check newegg 3070 stock?

anyone*

[toxic topaz]

is asus tuf gaming 1660super oc good?

[hidden carbon]

depends what you're looking for

but in general

pretty good card yea

[hidden carbon]

as much as possible

[lone pond]

@high tangle just make a python script to auto purchase it when it comes out

[signal rover]

how

[lone pond]

its not very hard

look up some tutorials on python it takes around 20-30 mins to do

[queen talon]

What's a good card for 1440p gaming at a decent to good framerate that's actually available?

[eager timber]

1660 super or higher prolly

[queen talon]

Thank you

[eager timber]

found some good premade deals on amazon

[warm girder]

If i have a i5 10400f and i bought a rtx 3070 would i be able to support it?

and my mother board is the B460M DS3H AC-Y1

[warm girder]

That gonna help me once i got money

[lone pond]

5600xt enough for 1080 144?

[warm girder]

yes

[lone pond]

used 2070 super or 2080 is a good choice too

you get to use DLSS

[lone pond]

yes

[warm girder]

mando is the B460M DS3H AC-Y1 and i5 10400f good enough for a 3070?

oh ok

thx mando

[lone pond]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B08L8KC1J7?tag=ballsack-20

[queen talon]

I've given up on finding an rtx card. Settling on finding a gtx or rx 5000 series card at this point 🥲

[lone pond]

3070 tuf

[warm girder]

@lone pond thx

[lone pond]

@exotic vine ur buying 3070 right

sell ur 2080 to @queen talon

wait no

im dumb

wait am i

i cnat remember

now i have to check

[warm girder]

selling 2080 and buying 3070 is a good idea

[lone pond]

no he found a used 2080 deal

i remember now

he doesnt have a 2080 rn

[warm girder]

ok

[lone pond]

hes buying 3070

@exotic vine has that 2080 sold yet

[sand harbor]

I stg all the white gigabyte 2070 supers are out or like 200 more than they should be.

[fervent obsidian]

it's because jesus wants you go get a 3070 instead

[lone pond]

So do we have any news about AIB cards? Or even if we will before they release? Or is it just gonna be a hey they are for sale now?

For any of the 3000 series or 6000

[signal rover]

i want to buy a rog 3080, but it is very hard now

all out of stock

[lone pond]

make

a python script

[rose adder]

node js + pupeteer is easier to use imo but it depends on what you are familiar with

[lone pond]

^

what he said

[sand harbor]

tell jesus to PUT THEM IN STOCK and then we'll talk. xDDD

[lone pond]

why buy a 2070 super in the first place literally no point unless you want DLSS because the 5700 XT is a far better choice due to the fact they're 700$ rn lol

or just buy a 3070 lol

[sand harbor]

at this point any card would be great lol. I do more art and editing than gaming (tho I game too) so something that's white to match my build would be greeeeaaaat

[lone pond]

yeah so buy a 5700xt then

cheap stays in stock

painting stuff white isn't too hard

[sand harbor]

see like yes, it's not too hard, but at the same time I could make the shroud hideous, and i'd need to buy the stuff to do it, and then there's the effort of doing it.

so how much am I saving (or if I bung it up, losing) at that point.

[lone pond]

bro literally sandpaper and paint can

thats like 25 bucks

well primer too

thats it

unless you're using sandpaper that makes it look like a cat used it as a scratch post it'll be fine

[hollow heath]

Question

Is 175 for a used 1070 TI a good price?

[lone pond]

its 1660 super performance so yeah thats good price

[exotic vine]

idk if it sold

[daring tusk]

my search is finally over. i finally got a TUF 3070. sadly the shipping is estimated jan 28. good luck to everyone who are still trying

[eternal locust]

@daring tusk how much are you paying for it tho?

Lol

[daring tusk]

559.99 usd

normal price i think

[candid geyser]

I saw that on amazon just now I think and it instantly went up to $1000 I was so confused

[grim mantle]

@eternal locust oof brother have mine here next saturday so im lucky

[eternal locust]

Yes you are

[grim mantle]

I did a big brain

[crisp ocean]

how lmao

[stoic folio]

I live in the uk so there is no 3070 in stock or it’s overpriced

[crisp ocean]

how is the estimated shipping date in 2 months

[daring tusk]

idk

it says the seller was Amazon.com Services LLC so im assuming its from amazon themselves. why it would take 2 months idk

[crisp ocean]

Might mean they dont have it yet idk

[daring tusk]

probably

im happy i at least secured it

[grim mantle]

I bought a prebuild with the specs for my brother but has a rtx3070 in there so...

[hollow heath]

I'm selling my 1070 TI and someone offered me 175 USD

[grim mantle]

lol

[brisk flame]

you could sell a 1070ti for at least 200

[hollow heath]

Fr?

[eternal locust]

Who wants to spend 200 dollars on a 3 year old used graphics card

😳

[fervent obsidian]

a gamer

[eternal locust]

A stupid gamer*

[fervent obsidian]

not really

[gilded matrix]

a poor gamer

[fervent obsidian]

gamer on a budget no issue there

[eternal locust]

I mean there's alot newer cards for a lil bit more

Based on how quickly they keep coming out with new hardware

[spark creek]

i spent $180 on a 970 in 2018... still have it...

[eternal locust]

970 respectable

[spark creek]

it was also used (kinda obv since it was made in 2014)

[sullen panther]

I'm thinking of getting a used 1060, maybe even a 1070 for a pc I'm planning to build

[viral agate]

I gave in and bought a 1080ti on eBay for my new built, currently playing Valhalla and got tired of playing with my current place Holders graphics card that is struggling on low settings.

I’ll try and hunt for a 3080 again after the holidays

[delicate oxide]

quick question, not sure if it can go on this tab or not, would a 850w psu be enough for a possible 6000 card or should i go find a 1kw psu? I wont be playing too heavily nor look for highest setting but i do plan on changing my vega 56 since its been giving me problems...and i know its the card bc ive recycled it from my old system and gives me the same problems

[wispy pike]

850 should be enough

[copper mason]

i spent $180 on a 970 in 2018... still have it...
@spark creek A GTX 970 is still capable, it's still 'good enough'. I had a RX 480 8gb card a year ago, it was good outside of buggy drivers (that was before AMD went buck-wild on the driver team and whipped them into shape a bit). I had no issue with 1080p performance with almost always high texture detail there. Now since the 970 only has 3.25~3.5gb of VRAM (before it slows down accessing VRAM), if you choose low to medium textures (often medium is fine 80~90% of the time), you will be perfectly fine.

[wispy pike]

Unless you have some crazy number of hdds

[delicate oxide]

2 m.2s 2 mechanicals and 1 ssd....with 2 externals....

[copper mason]

@viral agate Your 1080Ti is easily as capable as the 2070 Super I have here, and has more VRAM to boot, and I paid almost 600$ for mine a year ago - I look like a fool compared to whatever you spent... you have everything but DLSS and Ray Tracing, and those aren't deal-breakers.

[daring tusk]

if anyone is trying for a rtx 30 series this dude on twitch has a stream running checking stock 24/7 and they post the links in the chat when stock is in. hes Falcodrin
he also has yt streams running for the AMD 6800s

[wispy pike]

You good @delicate oxide

[delicate oxide]

kk neat. now i need to find the day when to swap the old with the new...and find a card on sale...

[copper mason]

@viral agate Don't bother hunting a 3080 anytime soon, I'd wait for the next major releases to come out, stock to recover, and to see when the Nvidia answer to AMD's yesterday release is - purportedly on 7nm TSMC in-stead of Samsung 8nm fail-fest.

Going from a 1080Ti to a 3080 isn't that large of a jump, until you get into Ray Tracing and so-forth. Currently, Nvidia cards have 8/10gb of VRAM on the 3070 / 3080 and it's not a smart buy consider the competition has 16gb models. Wait until nvidia adds more VRAM for a Ampere refresh due in spring time.

This is coming from someone who is 'suffering' with only 8gb of VRAM due to content creation / game dev stuff on a budget. Would have been smarter for me to wait, or get a radeon VII 16gb, or go with the profession line-up - but alas, hindsight is 2020 and I wish others not to make my same misstep (it was also budget related).

IF you use professional content creation / game dev software, then RTX is well worth the penny even for 100$. It's VERY useful there - but in games, it's a nice extra but by absolutely NO means should it make you pay more than a 50~100$ premium to have it. Of course, I say this about RTX for games BEFORE the Cyberpunk release - so there's that too. It might use it beautifully, it also might make no difference besides nice puddles, too.

[limpid latch]

from a 1080ti to 3080 is a large jump what are you talking about..

[brisk flame]

its a large jump if your trying to game at 4k

otherwise, everything bob has said up there is spot on

[gilded matrix]

I have a 1060Ti and in need of an upgrade? Should i go for the rtx3070 or RX6800xt or wait?

[cloud laurel]

what is the best gpu for a 460w psu
i have a i7 8700

[obsidian plaza]

Can someone here help me build a pc?

[cloud laurel]

what's your budget

[brisk flame]

@gilded matrix whats your monitor?

@cloud laurel whats the PSU?

@obsidian plaza whats your budget? and use case?

[obsidian plaza]

Maybe $1000. Is that fair? Does it get you a good pc?

[brisk flame]

1k is plenty

[obsidian plaza]

Ok

What would be a reasonable amount?

[brisk flame]

anything above 600

then after 2.5k things get ridiculous

[cloud laurel]

I have a dell 460w psu

[gilded matrix]

VIOTEK SUW49DA 49-Inch Super Ultrawide Monitor

[cloud laurel]

idk what the raring is

[obsidian plaza]

Ok, let's say my budget is about $800. What graphics card is a good one considering the budget?

[brisk flame]

@cloud laurel does it have PCIe power cables?

[cloud laurel]

i dunno

i currently have a 1660 ti hooked up to it

[gilded matrix]

120Hz, 5120 x 1440

[brisk flame]

so its got an 8 pin

[cloud laurel]

yea

[brisk flame]

i dont think theres much you could upgrade that too

and RTX 2060 would work

but thats not worth it

[brisk flame]

you need a new gpu.

[cloud laurel]

ok i might get a pw supply upgrade

[brisk flame]

get a 6800xt

[brisk flame]

its a dell prebuilt, so you cant get a new psu

[limpid latch]

good monitor size tho samsung, asus, acer which one?

[cloud laurel]

Really!

[brisk flame]

yep

well

[gilded matrix]

The plan is Ryzen 9 5900x, 6800xt

[brisk flame]

ok theres a slim chance you can

[limpid latch]

@gilded matrix if its samsung crg9 definitely get a amd card

[gilded matrix]

My monitor is Viotex

[brisk flame]

would depend on the specific model of dell

[cloud laurel]

insprion 5680

[limpid latch]

ah i heard of those too

[brisk flame]

thats a good plan, if youre just gaming i would suggest the 5600x instead

[gilded matrix]

VIOTEK SUW49DA 49-Inch Super Ultrawide

[limpid latch]

will most likely flicker w/ gsync so id go amd freesync will be great on it

[gilded matrix]

I need it for engineering programs as well

CAD, MATLAB, etc

the Viotek comes with Gsync support

[obsidian plaza]

@brisk flame I've been told the intel i3 1900 is good for the budget I have. Would you suggest another one?

[brisk flame]

if you need the cores, the the 5900x is good

[limpid latch]

through nvidia control panel n drivers or actual compatible sticker

[brisk flame]

ill get to you in a sec

[limpid latch]

theres always a chance for flicker w/ just driver support they added

[obsidian plaza]

Alright

My b

[weary flax]

@obsidian plaza Honestly, just buy a 2080Ti off of ebay for about 600-700 bucks.

[gilded matrix]

Viotek
VIOTEK SUW49DA 49 Inch Super Ultrawide Monitor 5120x1440p 120Hz 4ms 1800R 32:9 Dual QHD Gaming Monitor Freesync/G-sync Compatible

[weary flax]

If you HAVE to have one right now

[limpid latch]

you can prob get one cheaper than that

[weary flax]

^

[gilded matrix]

knowing that my monitor is G-Sync compatible, is it still advised to go for the 6800xt vs the rtx3070?

[weary flax]

@gilded matrix personally, at least for my CAD and MATLAB work, my 3600 works pretty well. I'd say a 5800x would work just fine for you in most if not all cases.

[brisk flame]

@cloud laurel what monitor are you using atm?

[limpid latch]

w/ that size i wouldnt go w/ 3070

your pushing 7mil pixels

[cloud laurel]

I have a 32 inch 1440p 165hz dell miniter

[limpid latch]

youd need more vram if gaming at high settings atleast

[cloud laurel]

monitor

[gilded matrix]

@weary flax solid advice!

[analog hawk]

so has the dust settled on the 6800xt vs 3080 and their uses and recommendations

[brisk flame]

its a freesync monitor, and is g-sync "compatible." that being said, none of that matters, and doesnt dictate what gpu you actually get. dont worry about it

[weary flax]

yeeeeeaaaa I'd say probably 6800xt or 3080 for that monitor @gilded matrix

[brisk flame]

get 6800xt

[weary flax]

The 6800xt has more than enough Vram

[brisk flame]

unless you need cuda for work

[limpid latch]

just stating w/ that monitor id suggest amd card you have chance of flicker even if it lets you check gsync

[brisk flame]

or nvenc

[weary flax]

I mean even then you can use CPU based codecs, but NVIDIA does have that NVENC advantage

[limpid latch]

nvenc is very good to use for sure

[analog hawk]

how big is the performance gap at 4k and 1440p

[brisk flame]

5800x is bad buy. overpriced for what it is

if your 3600 works well enough i would suggest the 5600x

[weary flax]

Which is why honestly I'd get a 3900x from ebay

not too much of a perf difference beyond single core

[brisk flame]

single core perf is most important

[limpid latch]

wuhan if you have a nvidia card right now try and go into dsr and enable 2.25 and try it out yourself and see

[weary flax]

Yes, but not for everyone

[brisk flame]

unless matlab is really gonna use 12/24

[weary flax]

not sure about that one, but, still

[brisk flame]

which, i actually dont know

[weary flax]

neither do I

[gilded matrix]

so 5800x is overkill ?

[brisk flame]

5800x is 150 dollars more for an extra 2/4

[gilded matrix]

I mean i use matlab on i5 3rd gen ok

it's not terribly slow

but it would be cool if it was faster

[brisk flame]

if those extra 2/4 were really worth it to you for 150, then the 5900x is 100 more for an extra 4/8

meaning that would be the better buy for what you need

[weary flax]

@brisk flame When it comes to MSRP, the 5800x is only 50 dollars more than the 3800x.
For a just-released product, I'd say its pretty appealing.
BUT, I'd rather just go for a 5600x, or a 5900x. The other ones aren't really important for... well... almost anyone. Ebay is your friend

[brisk flame]

however, it all depends on if matlab and cad really need 12/24

[gilded matrix]

I'm looking at value per dollar

[brisk flame]

im just gonna do some research brb

[weary flax]

aight let me know what you find

[gilded matrix]

I also use EAGLE and LTspice

[limpid latch]

if you get a cpu upgrade id jump cores too not 8 to 8

or 6 to 6

[weary flax]

I'm a little behind on newer benchmarks

[limpid latch]

atleast go from say 3600 to 5800

[weary flax]

I'm going to be getting a 5900x

So

Don't worry about me

[brisk flame]

matlab requires the user to tell it to use more than one thread?

[weary flax]

ooof

[brisk flame]

so matlab is single threaded

[weary flax]

Not quite.

[brisk flame]

unless you write your program to use more than one

[weary flax]

You have to assume serious engineers are going to enable that setting

[brisk flame]

if he is writing and running algorithms to use more than one thread, and he will use more than the 6 cores available to him to run said threads, then sure, 5900x great

of course, this statement is based on literally 3 minutes of googling

oh @obsidian plaza ask for build help in #building-and-recc-chat

[weary flax]

Really he should determine his budget

[brisk flame]

i probably wont help you for a while

[obsidian plaza]

It's ok

Don't worry about it

[brisk flame]

ok, @gilded matrix i looked into the other 2 programs you mentioned, i would suggest getting a 5600x, and a 6800xt

[gilded matrix]

My budget is around $1200 for new mobo, cpu, and gpu

[brisk flame]

I cant see you using the extra things that nvidia cards have to offer, so theres no point in paying for em

1200, great

[cold spire]

is the 1650 super OC good my budget is $650

[brisk flame]

yes

[cold spire]

any thing better for the price

[analog hawk]

used cards maybe

[brisk flame]

RX 580 8gb is like ~120 used

that would be better

[cold spire]

are used cards good

[analog hawk]

depends on the condition you find em in

[cold spire]

k

[topaz furnace]

Any news on 3080 stock?

[cold spire]

N not yet

look around january 2021

[topaz furnace]

Evga has been re stocking lately

[analog hawk]

evga has been but not asus unfortunately

[brisk flame]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbGVF8 gonna need new ram as well, and a new, fast ssd is always a good thing

cpu and gpu wont be in stock consistently for a few weeks tho, so they might be tough to get

[analog hawk]

so the 6800xt is just a better overall rasterization performer i assume?

like traditional gaming

[gilded matrix]

I know a guy who got a 5600x and then lucked out on a 5900x so he's selling the 5600 for $390. Do you think i should take it?

[analog hawk]

at 1440p and 4k?

you shouldnt take it

[brisk flame]

totally

[analog hawk]

5600x restocks somewhat frequently

i would not recommend i have found the add to cart buttona dn been able to purchase a 5600x

[frozen seal]

the gigabyte 6800xt just looks like a black out edition or smth

[gilded matrix]

maybe if i talk him down to $360?

[brisk flame]

if you can get it from him for exactly what he paid for it, do him a favor and get it from him lol

[gilded matrix]

I think he's trying to come out on top a few bucks

[analog hawk]

350 i would try to haggle down for, for tax and shipping i assume thats how much he paid about

[brisk flame]

i mean, its not gonna be that hard to get in the near future

[fresh badger]

Hello Everyone, any thought on the besdt budget graphic card rn?

[ripe ivy]

Oh I was looking for what the new gigabyte cards might look like, but I can only find Sapphire's and Powercolor's

[analog hawk]

it really isnt that difficult to get rn tbh 5800x and 5600x restock like no mans tomorrow

if ur on the discords with restock updates

[frozen seal]

it was in the pcpartpicker list fish sent earlier

[brisk flame]

it is oos rn, but will return soon enough

[ripe ivy]

It's the reference card as far as I can tell, at least that's the only one I'm seeing

[lean iron]

anyone know when gigabyte 1660 super will be in stock?

[vagrant phoenix]

@lean iron Shows in stock on newegg...

Oh that's an MP seller...

[lean iron]

yea lol and its ridiculously overpriced

[jolly sandal]

Yo yo

2070 for 400 or 2070 super for 500?

CAD btw

Lemme know

[keen notch]

2070s 500CAD is a great price

[errant badge]

I went all out guys...Phanteks p500a DRGB white case, Gigabyte Vision G MoBo, Samsung M.2 1TB SSD, Crucial M.2 1TB SSD, 2 TB Barracuda SSHD, I9-10850KA CPU, ID Cooling 360mm Snow Edition Radiator, Nvidia RTX 3090 Founders Edition GPU, Corsair Vengeance Pro RAM (4x8GB@3600mHz). Corsair 750w modular power supply, Cablemod White braided cable extensions..and a little bit of hard work...This is my 1st pc build!!!.

[rose adder]

Nice

[errant badge]

Plus the 32" samsung G5 at 1440p/144hz

[lunar shuttle]

Guys

Does anyone know when the 3070 will be back in stock

[viral elbow]

everyone and their mom are trying to get their hands on the gpus, so no one knows

[copper mason]

Normally I am a source of information, but I do have a quick question.
Where is the setting to change how much system memory is reserved by my RTX 2070 Super 8gb of card. It's reserving 16gb of system RAM for some stupid reason, and I happen to forget where that setting is (it's not a BIOS setting, it's something in the driver, and it's not in Nvidia Control Panel).

@jolly sandal You may want more than 8gb of VRAM for serious modeling / CAD use. I use a 2070 Super here and 8gb is not enough for me - for gaming 8gb is still 'ok' though for how long no one knows (some games already need more). For CAD things will really chug when it runs out of VRAM. If you're a hobbyist then you should be OK, but for for-hire work or game development (or heavy/serious modding work), you might want to think about more VRAM. Consider waiting a bit and grabbing a 6800/6800xt, you'll have a much more future-proof card when it comes to VRAM - however - and this is a big however here - RTX is well-utilized in Maya, Substance Designer, Blender, and the like.

[jolly sandal]

@copper mason I meant canadian currency lmao

[copper mason]

Ah okay. My bad!

[jolly sandal]

Haha you're good

[copper mason]

Just trying to help as with any serious model (like a tunnel) can have millions of triangles and that munches VRAM for breakfast in Maya or Blender. Not fun when your 2 second operation takes 5 to 8 minutes due to being out of VRAM. That is a pain I wish on no-one, especially at 2am when I hit it.

One of these days I will have to sell a few shares of my AMD stock and get a better video board. I will wait until the 6900/6900XT or whatever it's supposed to be and make my decision(s) after launch - likely after the holidays when buying slows and the good sales hit around february-march - which is normally slow for retail anything - and hence best time to buy a card. However, having a choppy game play experience is not fun either - so I can understand if you don't want to wait either (I'm not enjoying waiting and I've had this 2070 Super only 11 months and it's already functionally obsolete for me).

Thankfully I invested a snot-ton of money (pretty much everything I had on me at the time) into AMD stock back when it was under 2$. I still am not sure I want to cash out yet. I'd feel like a fool if the stock went up after I sold some or all of it. It's akin to waiting to upgrade, until a new hardware release, and just continuing to wait and wait past each release 'to get more for your money' so to speak.

[marble robin]

Hey guys. Wondering which gpu i should get. 3070 or 6800 xt if i have the ryzen 7 5800x? I dont really care about 4k gaming and ray tracing stuff. Just wanna be able to game smoothly with some friends.

[vagrant phoenix]

Whichever one you can get

[marble robin]

Ight 👍

[copper mason]

6000 series Radeons give 'smart access memory' feature, for a few extra FPS - but RTX Nvidia cards have faster Ray Tracing performance, CAD/Modeling/Rendering software performance, and DLSS (an AMD version of DLSS is in the works - give that a few months, and AMD cards can raytrace but it's not as fool-proof or good looking yet - driver updates will smooth things out eventually). So like the other person said 'whatever you can get'. The 6800 and 6800xt generally perform better than the 3070, and the XT has close to 3090 performance in some titles while being around the speed of the 3080 in others. As always, driver updates may change performance for the better in the future.

[vagrant phoenix]

Nvidia is close to enabling the SAM (BAR) feature as well in the 30 series cards for both Intel and AMD CPUs so that will soon be moot

[limpid latch]

yep

[crisp ocean]

not to mention SAM is going to be on the RTX cards soon

oh maytheus said it

And once Nvidia has it enabled, odds are theyl beat AMD

I dont like how AMD did the benchmarks with SAM on

[vagrant phoenix]

And RAGE MODE

[limpid latch]

i streamed w/ obs star citizen and that gameplay was smooother than actually playing lol

[random spruce]

Is the asus rtx 3070 good

I just got it somehow

[deft lake]

i just saw on newegg in stock rtx 3070 msi now

but i cant add in cart

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3070-rtx-3070-ventus-3x-oc/p/N82E16814137601

[high tangle]

Use Apple Pay boys!

[deft lake]

dam i use samsung 😦

[high tangle]

Just got the aorus 3070 using that you can beat the bots

So hype

[limpid latch]

nice

[high tangle]

Thanks! Four days of constant refreshing the Newegg app paid off lol

[viral elbow]

nie

how did you refresh it? were you just on the search page or each individual cards? @high tangle

[limpid latch]

i love when the app resets itself and gotta redo the search

[high tangle]

The bundle deals seem to be where you have the most luck. A bunch of bundles came in stock at 7pm est but none with just the card itself. I got the one with a 750w power supply added in. Same situation yesterday but I was too slow.

[viral elbow]

that's interesting, it does seem to be coming in at certain time of the day. But i'm just so torn for the psu bundles

[fathom bear]

You can always sell the psu

[viral elbow]

[limpid latch]

or use it if you have an old psu

[fathom bear]

In some cases you can even return them

Without the rest

[limpid latch]

either way

[viral elbow]

it's good points

[high tangle]

Oh thanks fire titan, I have a 650w right now but I’m not sure if it will be enough

[deft lake]

750w its better than 650w choose a new one

[viral elbow]

i thought you just got the 750 gigabyte?

[last breach]

anyone knows when the aftermarket gpu from amd will hit the stores? Like from sapphire and such

[remote cargo]

They’re in Newegg I think

Just out of stock

[last breach]

are they not just the reference cards right now?

Im talking about the custom coolers
https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/nitro-radeon-rx-6800-xt-16g-gddr6

[remote cargo]

oh

Idk

[daring tusk]

yes, they are all reference cards right now. @last breach

[last breach]

and there are no specific dates of when the custom coolers come out?

[jovial goblet]

im waiting for the 6800 xt taichi

[last breach]

im waiting for sapphire

[high tangle]

@viral elbow yes my 3070 came with a 750w but my current build already has a 650w in it. Wasn’t sure if I should just return the 750 for the cash or keep it

[daring tusk]

750 is always better

it will last much longer as new components usually require more power

unless you dont really care and will get a new psu when you need it. then return.

[hexed badger]

is B&H a trustworthy site

[west kayak]

yes

[hexed badger]

thank you

[last breach]

have anyone ordered on shoprbc?

site looks sketchy but prices for 5600x seem faire

fair*

[frozen seal]

they website is real sketch

yea

i mean, if they made it onto pcpartpicker they're prolly pretty reputable

more than vuugo or whatever that other one is

[last breach]

yeah they must nut be run by some russian scammers

vuugo and memory express also have ugly websites

maybe thats why they are able to have better prices than newegg most of the time

[frozen seal]

i havnt even bothered checking vuugo's website, but memory expresses doesnt look bad

just, a bit of an information overload lmao

[last breach]

memory express' green theme hurts me so much

[lone pond]

Does a gtx 1650 guarantee 165hz

[rigid crag]

No

[jolly otter]

whats a good contender for the GTX 1660? i kind of want to get one on a black friday deal to use for a few years till ray tracing and the other new features are more worth it

i just dont know what cards to compare it to

the rtx 3080 is worth it for ray tracing and stuff imo but its impossible to get, the 6800xt isnt worth it imo

my other option is just upgrade everything else and use my HD7970 ghz edition overclocked till the 3080 is available

[arctic phoenix]

try holding out with a 1070 or something similar for around 150$ used

until things become in stock/reasonable to buy

[jolly otter]

the 1070 is $875 on newegg canada i dont think ill find it for any less than $500 CAD

nah im dumb lol.. $320 cad on ebay

[arctic phoenix]

oh canada, idk abt the used market there

but in the US, you can find deals for around 150-200$ for a 1070

[jolly otter]

they are around $300 CAD without shipping, $200 USD is $265 CAD so not that bad

that price is a good contender with the gtx 1660 new so

[arctic phoenix]

1070 performs about the same as a 2060

[jolly otter]

nice, and the 2060 is a lot more expensive used

a used 1070 is def at the top of the list now, thanks

60 fps at 4K in witcher 3 was my goal and it does that, i wonder how it will do cyberpunk at 2K

[sinful crater]

2fps

Ez

[jolly otter]

oof

but yeh

ill probably just have to put off cyberpunk till the 3080 is available

which means i might as well put off upgrading my GPU lol.. thanks for the 1070 recommendation though

[zinc wraith]

What kind of card should I get for an old office system to resell it?
I'm looking for cards under 75w

[solar sky]

gtx 650 for an officer pc

@zinc wraith

750*

you can buy a used one for like 50 bucks max

[weary halo]

yes this comment right here Officer

[zinc wraith]

Oh okay cool beans thats what I was looking at i just wanted confirmation

[lone pond]

@high tangle so I got that same 3070 bundle last weekend, and it arrived really nice. The GPU is awesome, but I haven't put either in a system yet (still waiting for 5600x). Ive been kind of worried though because the psu is an extremely new model so there is almost no information on it. Half the reviews on Newegg are 1 star DOA complaints, so I've been freaking out since the psu in the box might be a dud. Just letting you know.

[zinc wraith]

Can anyone link me a gtx 750, I can't even find one used

[lone pond]

@zinc wraith

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-Geforce-GTX-750-Ti-Low-Profile-Graphic-Cards-/164362578435?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

[jolly otter]

i see a $50 used one on ebay

"ZOTAC Video Card GeForce GTX 750 1GB 128Bit GDDR5 Graphics Cards"

[zinc wraith]

Oof 128 thats a bit too much for this pc imo

[west kayak]

not a terrible deal

[zinc wraith]

Well for a ti probs but I'm lookin for something a bit cheaper because this pc is really not worth upgrading past a gpu and ssd

[jolly otter]

the one i mentioned isnt ti

the quote is the title, just put that into ebay

[zinc wraith]

I found a 1030 new for 60 i might get that

[west kayak]

yea thats not bad either

[lone pond]

you can find used 1050 ti's for 50-90 usd

[hybrid kettle]

Should I wait for 3060/3050 and see if there’s a small 1 fan card whenever that’s going to come out or buy a 1 fan 2060 now

[sand drum]

installed new 3070 ain’t getting any signal on monitor help please

[hazy glacier]

maybe plugged display cord in wrong slot lol

[high tangle]

Thanks man! Might just return it, can use that 120 bucks for something else, perhaps... MORE RAM

[shut herald]

2060 6GB vs 2070 8gb?

[tight goblet]

is 5600 xt worth for 270?

[burnt parcel]

yeah, 6 gigs is kinda doo doo

but its a lot cheaper

Do you plan on using Ray Tracing or 4K?

hmmmm

well if you want raytracing go 3070

if not go 6800xt

[weary halo]

personally I can't understand why anyone would opt out of the option of ray tracing. it's the future I think.. and these new cards are team green's second generation implementation of decent ray tracing afaik

I want to love AMD (built a ryzen system a couple years ago and am super super happy with it) but it's pretty clear they're still not at par with nvidia

[burnt parcel]

it was their first try tho

it is what it is

they never said they were gonna be goated at ray tracing

[weary halo]

right. but thinking about computer graphics it's (RT) the logical evolution. it most clearly mimics real life and every developer is chasing photorealism right? so.. meh

[burnt parcel]

Now its not so great, but they plan on some pretty major updates, so does nvidia so do whatever you like

im gaming at 1080p so i think im good with amd

[weary halo]

yeah and you also (probably) cannot really go wrong, right? you'll have great performance and a good time no matter which..

[burnt parcel]

right, both cards are still amazing and best things you can get out there

[valid saffron]

I hope they stay competitive

[weary halo]

yep. the competition is great

[burnt parcel]

as long as they are competing we are gonna be getting great GPU's

[ripe ivy]

This next year will show the potential of what their hardware can do, or so I hope so

[weary halo]

i'm trying to size a new PSU (currently a evga gold 550w) because I also will be grabbing one of these cards (probably the 3080 in all honesty) - using hwinfo somehow my cpu drew a peak of like 80.2 amps which is like 200w more than my psu is rated for. so I'm kinda unclear on what I should get. kinda thinking 750w but wondering if I really need 800-850

[jovial goblet]

Go 800-850

Just to be safe

[weary halo]

right now just have a 2gb rx550 because I built this to be just my 'office computer' - but ended up gaming on it

[jovial goblet]

Try bstock for evga psus

They pretty much go on sale there

[weary halo]

thanks I hadn't heard of that site just pulled it up. bstock.com right?

[jovial goblet]

Yeah its basically just stuff that goes on massive price drops just because of a minor scratch or something that doesnt affect perf

Nope

Look up evga bstock

[weary halo]

oh i see

i figure this tool must have misreported that amperage draw, even these 850w ones on bstock site say 70.8a on the 12v rail

[jovial goblet]

https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=8

[weary halo]

nothing else really in the system that would draw much power. have two m.2 nvme disks so no spinning rust

[jovial goblet]

thats the site, they restock weekly i think

that shouldnt be a heavy power draw considering what you have and adding some case fans to the mix

[weary halo]

just 3 fans besides the cpu cooler (top, rear and front)

will probably add another top and one side panel one though. temps are currently totally decent

[viral elbow]

interesting, people actually got the 500ish dollar 2070super

[jovial goblet]

there was a $550 2080 super there once

[viral elbow]

yesterday evga restocked the whole 20 series

they're all gone now, couldn't bring myself to buy them honestly

why would that be bad

oh, i thought it would physically hurts the cpu, kind of bad

i see

what were the cpu and gpu?

[burnt parcel]

i entered the evga queue so late

its only been exactly a month since i entered

[viral elbow]

yea I just could not bring myself to spend that much money when they are not even on sale, knowing that they are already obsolete. not that the old cards are bad, i just couldn't do it

really, i thought it is not too bad of a match tbh

and if you needed the cpu power then it just goes that way

true true

[lone pond]

@sterile parcel that's a fact

[viral elbow]

yea

maybe an excuse for you to upgrade and build a side pc lol

[burnt parcel]

mines ok, but any new games can play on maximum medium graphics

ive got a 1050 ti lp

[viral elbow]

it makes them happy to get the new stuff i guess, and tbh i want them too but i just couldn't physically get the gpu lol

ha, same

HP pavilion 23

yea the scalpers can suc a dik

[burnt parcel]

people really out here with no morals

[viral elbow]

wait nvm i'm dumb

you said AIO

[sand drum]

sad day today boys my 3070 came dead 😔😭

[burnt parcel]

WAT

[viral elbow]

how wtf it's dead

[sand drum]

didn’t give connection to my monitor and i made sure everything was plugged in correctly and i also re installed my old gpu and my pc booted up just fine i already sent them a email see if they responds i’ll call them tomorrow she if i can start the RMA process

i bought it off zotac

lol not ebay

how it’s looks so good too bad it doesn’t work 😭

[viral elbow]

ah, zotac

[sand drum]

never been this disappointed

never buying zotac again

[viral elbow]

so is it dead dead

[sand drum]

f**k that

[burnt parcel]

if i can get a zotac 3080 im getting it

[sand drum]

lmfao

[viral elbow]

it's a low tier brand lol, and they have bad company image

[lone pond]

where are they available?

[viral elbow]

[burnt parcel]

www.zotacstore.com

hmmm

[viral elbow]

zotac is bad but their stock is really consistent

[burnt parcel]

https://www.zotacstore.com/us/

[sand drum]

i just thought it looked nice and did good on tests that’s why i bought it and wasn’t tryna get scalped by other people selling 3070s for 775$

hell nah

scam

[viral elbow]

yea fake 4k

[sand drum]

@viral elbow wish i would of know that earlier would of never bought from them

[viral elbow]

dude can you still return it tho, because like, the gpu is dead lmao, don't pay them return fee either @sand drum