graphics-cards

[lone pond]

sorry I’m new to these computer stuff and thanks for helping

wait but aren’t they all sold out

[past crown]

yeah

gotta wait a bit to when all the hype goes downn

or go early

[frigid anvil]

The 3 tiers.

Top to bottom best to worst.

Click it or ticket boys.

[rigid crag]

Are those new in addition to the ones you already have?

[eternal locust]

Straight to the best

just to have the 6900XT kick its booty

[sand drum]

@frigid anvil those pictures just called me broke 😂😭

[eternal locust]

bro those cloth seats dont call you broke tho

[sand drum]

[frigid anvil]

I like my seats.

Leather make you sweat.

[rigid crag]

But, are those new ones you just bought, or are you just taking your boxes for a drive lol

[frigid anvil]

Those are the ones I been had.

Well

The 2080 Ti is new.

I just got it today.

[rigid crag]

Nice

How much you get it for?

[eternal locust]

cloth seats are undefeated in the winter time

[crisp ocean]

lowkey prefer cloth over leather

[eternal locust]

yeha they pretty comfy

[royal copper]

Pleather

[frigid anvil]

I got 2080 Ti for price of 3070 and it has 3GB more VRAM.

[clear frigate]

Nice

[copper gull]

@copper gull What on earth is darkmode?
@restive grove dark themed newegg

[frigid anvil]

RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition temps are 💩.

[rigid crag]

What case is it in?

[frigid anvil]

ITX CASE

Buttt

It has two 120mm fans blowing on it right under it.

[past crown]

@frigid anvil atleast if you get a really bad cut you can cauterize it with the heat pipes after cracking open the “shell”

[steady hare]

Is 40 degrees while gaming on my 2080 good

[fathom bear]

And not real, but yes good

Unless you are water cooled

[opal willow]

happy halloween guys, if you celebrate it

🙂

[restive grove]

@copper gull never heard of it.

[past crown]

uh huh

[copper gull]

i sense a troll

[restive grove]

No troll unless that means a sleepy ole man

@copper gull btw Dark Mode bites after I bothered to look for and enable it.

So it looks like I'll be replacing my 3600XT with a 5800X before I get a RTX 3080 now

[crisp ocean]

would microcenter have listed the restocks on their website yet for sunday

[spice prawn]

@crisp ocean when something is restocked, you see it

not before

[crisp ocean]

Nah yesterday I saw the GPUs were available in store before the store opened

[spice prawn]

the store does not have to be open for the warehouse to restock something

that is just normal procedure

and in line with what i said before

[crisp ocean]

Lemme rephrase that cause I’m way too tired and barely know what’s going on, even though there’s no stock rn I could check in the morning and it could say there’s more stock?

[spice prawn]

aye

there is no "fixed" time for stock updates

yes, it might align to almost always be updating at 10:00

but that has way more to do with the time the freight arrives at warehouse and the workflow in said warehouse than anything else

[crisp ocean]

Gotcha tyyy

[spice prawn]

you are very welcome

[sage plank]

Yeh bois

Ma gpu coming in < two weeks

[restive grove]

Hiddy ho...

[hidden glade]

anybody have any reccommendations for gpus to pair with a ryzen 5 3600 for best gaming/streaming that aren't extremely expensive

[crimson urchin]

Budget?

[hidden glade]

currently i'm looking at around $300-$450 with some wiggle room

[crimson urchin]

Rtx 2060 or 2060 super probably

[hidden glade]

thanks, i'm very new to building pcs, so i'm just not sure how to make the right choice on what to buy
ie. like how i can make sure i get the most out of what i buy

[crimson urchin]

Make sure you’re picking out all your parts on pcpartpicker list. You need a solid budget. And only get things that you need.

[hidden glade]

sounds good, thanks for the help

[restive grove]

@crimson urchin Isn't the 3070 in that price range as well.

[crimson urchin]

I thought it was a little more expensive

But even if it was it will be a challenge to even get one

[restive grove]

That may prove true for RX6000 gpus and Ryzen 5000 cpus as well

[sleek sand]

When do you all think those components will be more accessible? I was thinking not until February or March

[lone pond]

would micro center have a blue yeti?

[lone pond]

when will the 3080 come out to easly get

[faint kindle]

They said shortages will last well into 2021

[lone pond]

same with the 3070?

[faint kindle]

I wouldn’t be surprised

You’ll just have to keep an eye out

[crisp ocean]

Micro center is by far your best bet for getting a 3070

[clear frigate]

Did they say early or what part of 2021

[crisp ocean]

My bet would be not until March or April

But quite honestly depending on how the AMD GPUs are, we don’t know

[past crown]

depends on ur budget tho

the amds is better but the nvidia are still good and cheaper

[crisp ocean]

AMD is cheaper, and you cannot say which is better yet

[past crown]

is it?

the 3070 is 500)

500$

doesnt the 6800 msrp for more?

[ashen wigeon]

Guys, which is better? MSI rtx 2070 super ventus oc or MSI rtx 2070 super gaming trio x?
Just curious, 'cause i have rtx 2070 super ventus oc and want to change to gaming x trio for the rgb and 3 fan. Is it worth or not for change?
Im dont have plan upgrade to 3000 series

[fathom bear]

If you’re buying a 2070 super and you already have a 2070 super yes that is a waste of money

Unless you can return the card you already have

[ashen wigeon]

Ok. So there is no big difference for temp and performace right?

[limpid latch]

coil whine on a 3090 ftw3 what would u do

[acoustic crest]

Waterblock

Might not help though

Some people have added thermal pads if there wasn’t one on the component or components where the whine is coming from.

[limpid latch]

well since limited stock idk if should send to rma, or just return, pretty much back to the drawing board if its competely returned

[hard wren]

how bad is the coil whine?

and is it a decent power supply

[crisp ocean]

doesnt the 6800 msrp for more?
@past crown yes, however the 6800XT and 6900XT are cheaper than their NVIDIA counterparts

[past crown]

just depends on what you using them for and what you need

[acoustic crest]

Waiting on third party reviews that hopefully go more in depth beyond fps because with ray tracing we’re starting to get to the point where end result image fidelity may be noticeably different for certain things.

Also I’ve seen quite a few people say running the same benchmarks with their 3080s had results 20-30 FPS higher than the amd charts were showing.

[frigid anvil]

Coil whine on 3090 Founders Edition is pretty bad.

But that's to be expected with everything packed into that card how it is.

[hard wren]

not on a founders a FTW3

so an EVGA

[crisp ocean]

Also I’ve seen quite a few people say running the same benchmarks with their 3080s had results 20-30 FPS higher than the amd charts were showing.
@acoustic crest If AMD did benchmarks on a CPU without their SAM, the 30XX series would be a lot closer, if not better in performance

Not to mention no user benchmarks have been generated, you really cant say

Once the benchmarks done by the people are out then we can judge

[hard wren]

yeah I dont take much stock in closed manufacturer benchmarks

[lone pond]

how much will the 20 sersies card sell for after the 30 sersies comes out

[crisp ocean]

like

not much at all

[hard wren]

lets not talk about it (2080ti owner)

[crisp ocean]

i would not buy a used 2080ti for mroe than 450

lol

[lone pond]

lol

[hard wren]

I just couldnt justify buying the 3090 so i am sticking with my $400ish 2080ti for now

I feel like I went to a car dealership bought a Jeep and am wondering why its worth 1/4 its value 2 years later lol

I also own a Jeep 😭 😭

[acoustic crest]

Yeah that’s rough. The worst part is their value was even lower right before 30 series launch. People had no idea the stock issue would be this bad.

So many people were dumping their cards

Maybe not for 2080ti because no one knew 3070 was going to match it yet

I definitely saw some 1080tis going for like $250

[hard wren]

I did sell a 2080 while it was still worth money but then I used that money to buy another 2080ti for the wife but at least it was only $1000 instead of $1500 like the first one

[acoustic crest]

I almost bought evga 2080ti black at that price a year and a half ago because I was like damn I’m not going to have a chance to get this card at that price again.

[hard wren]

but maybe they will drop a 3080ti/3090ti to compete with AMDs new launch and I can get one of those

[crisp ocean]

3090ti would be disgusting lol

at probably 2k a card

[acoustic crest]

3080ti definitely seems like the most practical and marketable move

[hard wren]

yeah thats why included both

[brisk flame]

i liked the 3080 20gb name, kinda like the 1060 3 and 6gb

drop the ti name, and make a better 3080 with slightly more vram, even if its not double

and name it 3080 12gb, or whatever

[hard wren]

or maybe 16gb

[fervent obsidian]

i'm kind of leaning towards amd gpus atm

i was going to get a 3070

but kind of

puzzled

[brisk flame]

i mean, we hardly know anything about the new amd gpus

so just wait

[hard wren]

I cant wait to see the AMD ones

[fervent obsidian]

yeah i'm just waiting

[brisk flame]

its not like you can get the 3070

so you have to wait regardless kek

heck, even if you get your hands on a 3070, you can always sell it for a new amd card

[fervent obsidian]

yeah that's true

but i wake up so late me getting a 3070 ever is like

rare

[brisk flame]

so just do your best to get one, sell it for a little more later

[crisp ocean]

Im trying os hard to get a 3070 lol

[granite hawk]

is amds new card gonna be faster than the 3080?

[fervent obsidian]

well they have a competitor at $650 which seems to "trade blows" with the $700 3080

[granite hawk]

hmm

interesting

[fervent obsidian]

and then a thousand dollar 3090 killer

[lean flicker]

Yes but amd could have overclocked them

[limpid latch]

@hard wren corsair rm850x gold psu, i didnt have coil whine on asus tuf 3080 or 3080ftw3

just on this 3090 ftw3, can hear it start even at like 80fps or so

the 6900xt is in rage mode vs a stock 3090

[past crown]

whats coil whine??

[limpid latch]

kinda like a buzzing noise when fps jumps higher

[wicked hound]

@lean flicker probably barely OCed. AMD doenst lock down GPUs like Nvidia does. Could easily push those card much further I'd guess given good cooling (decent liquid loop or better)

[clear frigate]

You have 3 30 series cards dang that's impressive

[spice prawn]

"Yes but amd could have overclocked them" @lean flicker you could also have read the small print on those slides

[lean flicker]

ok

[hallow palm]

Hey is a 5600x good for a 3070/5800

[spice prawn]

6800 you mean?

[hallow palm]

Yep @spice prawn

Mb

[spice prawn]

and yes, from what we know it would be fine

but give it 3 more days and we have CPU reviews galore

[hallow palm]

Yep

[spice prawn]

what is going to be most interesting is the 3700x vs 5600x comparison

[clear frigate]

^

[spice prawn]

from a value/console/future POV that is

[hallow palm]

Yeah I wanna see how a 3700x does but isn't the 5600x faster in single core

[spice prawn]

aye, it should be

[hallow palm]

Isn't it something crazy like it beats the 10900 in single core

[spice prawn]

should <- keyword

[hallow palm]

H o w

[spice prawn]

hm?

[opal willow]

hello

[shell mesa]

do we know when the low end new age gpus are going to be released

[spice prawn]

no

[shell mesa]

do we have a general idea or no as well

[spice prawn]

nope

[shell mesa]

okay \

[spice prawn]

if you are in that segment of the market, either go second hand or old gen

[spare relic]

3050

[shell mesa]

that is what i want but it is really just going to be used 2060

[spice prawn]

or have a look around for something like a 1070/1080

[shell mesa]

yeah i think that i am going to just wait to see if we do get something like a lower end card because i like to buy new with warranties

[crisp ocean]

Lets go my dad said he'll go to microcenter if I can't go when they restock

[vivid jay]

I assume they restock overnight so you'd have to get there before they open

[stone raft]

@spice prawn I know you got card connections

Hook me up

[spice prawn]

considering i dont care about the new cards. that aint going to help you.

[crisp ocean]

I assume they restock overnight so you'd have to get there before they open
@vivid jay it took an hour to sell out last time, or atleast for the website to say it sold out all models

and ill have him get there right when it opens

[vivid jay]

Where you live at?

[crisp ocean]

chicago, so i got 2 microcenters decently clsoe

[clear frigate]

Jealous

[limpid latch]

fallen fridays r ur best bet

but lines reguardless

what u after fallen?

[crisp ocean]

Any 3070, preferably a 3 fan or FE

[low niche]

Now if I have a 1050 and break it in half technically I could get the RTX 2100

[crisp ocean]

Now if I have a 1050 and break it in half technically I could get the RTX 2100
@low niche break it in 4 get a 4200

[low niche]

Yooo that’s great thinking thanks

[crisp ocean]

Np

[limpid latch]

hes a funny gpu question, what if you return a gpu and used the game code/geforce code

already

you should have gone thursday chicagos store was closed and they supposidly had 200 3070s at westmont

o well

[spice prawn]

that is between you and the RMA department of the store you bought from @limpid latch

[crisp ocean]

you should have gone thursday chicagos store was closed and they supposidly had 200 3070s at westmont
@limpid latch and on saturday they had a restock and it was in stock for about an hour

[limpid latch]

@spice prawn the fact its a card not in stock makes it a pain you know

[spice prawn]

:)

[limpid latch]

it was a microcenter

[spice prawn]

nothing i can do about that :)

[limpid latch]

just gonna return it i guess and drop down to 3080 asus will have hydrocopper ones

soon

if they ever come in stock hah

[torn thorn]

anyone know a good 150$ ish monitor

[fervent obsidian]

sceptre usually has 144hz monitors around there

1080p

don't know specific models

[stable hawk]

If I get a 3090 and snap it in half who wants the other half. You still get half the performance

[opal willow]

Imagine

[crisp ocean]

You get a GTX 1545

[turbid crag]

Which one is better?
Gtx 1650 super
Rx 580 8gb
Gtx 1650

[brave brook]

Probaly rx580

[spice prawn]

read the #rules, specifically number 9

[turbid crag]

O

[harsh oar]

5600xt or 2060?

[shell mesa]

i think that the 2060 is just slightly better but i also think that it has the better feature set like rtx and dlss and also the nvenc encoder

[harsh oar]

not gonna strean

only game

dont care about ray tracing

only raw performance

?

[shell mesa]

o then i dont remember

[rigid crag]

2060 is still slightly faster iirc

[harsh oar]

whats iirc?

[rigid crag]

If I remember correctly

[harsh oar]

k

but 5600xt is cheaper its $230

compared to $270

is it still worth?

@rigid crag

[spice prawn]

that is for you to decide

[rigid crag]

^

[spice prawn]

https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2580?vs=2515

scroll down the list @harsh oar

do NOT take the summary at the top as the final result

scroll down and take a look at things

[harsh oar]

lol thanks at least you showed benchmarks

btw i already know which one is more worth it

one of my friends got recommended a 1660 super over a 5600xt here

[spice prawn]

i am however curious where you are finding a 2060 for 270

[harsh oar]

that was a bs number

used maybe

it goes for 300

[spice prawn]

so, you are basically just here to ask BS and waste time?

[harsh oar]

lol

so, you are basically just here to ask BS and waste time?
@spice prawn no

to see if the server is reliable

[spice prawn]

that is all i am seeing so far

ask reliable questions

[harsh oar]

lmao

[spice prawn]

and you get reliable answers

[harsh oar]

the guy asked "1660 super or 5600xt)

[spice prawn]

and until i know which channel he asked in, OR what his discord name is

[harsh oar]

and got recc 1660 super for same pricer

[spice prawn]

i dont know the context.

[harsh oar]

and until i know which channel he asked in, OR what his discord name is
@spice prawn there was an ss but fair enough i jsut wanted to check it out for myself

im guessing it was just ione guy

sorry for wasting your time

[spice prawn]

i can guarantee that if you ask in #general-chat there is a above 50/50 chance of it being a troll answer

[harsh oar]

but i do have a genuine questiopn

[spice prawn]

but IF you do ask in any of the channels that are specific to parts? you will get a solid answer

and none of the Techies will be mad if you ask for verification of the answer by way of @ them

legit questions are always welcome:)

[harsh oar]

alright noted

appreciate it

so i wass actually wondering r5 3600and b550i asrock or 10400 and b460i

im contemplating

[slate goblet]

Hi guys. I have a question. Does Overclocking your GPU reduce its lifespan?

[spice prawn]

@slate goblet if you OC it hard enough yes, you will see a degradation over time.

[slate goblet]

I tried overlclocking my 2070 super my temps are 59c

[harsh oar]

not necessarily because it still lasts for a lot of years

[slate goblet]

i added +125 on my core clock

[harsh oar]

it while reduce lifespan but i dont think youll use it for that long anyways

[spice prawn]

how long that period is, is entirely dependant on a bunch of factors. IF you are curious about hard numbers on it, please ask in #overclocking we have a couple of people that are very knowledgeable in that field

[harsh oar]

so i wass actually wondering r5 3600and b550i asrock or 10400 and b460i
@spice prawn

[spice prawn]

back to you @harsh oar

(answered the other, because it was a quick and easy one to get sorted)

[harsh oar]

np

[spice prawn]

personally i would take the amd route, simply for the option of going zen3 further down the line

there is bugger all guarantee on the intel side of there being an actual successor for that socket.

[harsh oar]

alright thanks because i watched some benchmarks most of the performance is reletively similar

[spice prawn]

aye, its fairly similar

[harsh oar]

also i save 50 going intel

ill think about it

i mean intel sounds good to me tbh

[spice prawn]

single thread should be a tiny bit faster on the intel side

both from a IPC pov but also from the slight clock speed lead it has

[harsh oar]

interesting, thanks i appreciate it

[spice prawn]

However, before you do anything, please wait for the reviews of zen3 on nov 5th

[harsh oar]

will do

waitingt for consumer benchmarks myself

lol

[spice prawn]

and when i say reviews, i dont mean youtube bs

i mean actual reviews from places like anandtech, compubase etc

[harsh oar]

alright ill check those out, also whats wrong with yt

gamersnexus does pretty good reviews

[spice prawn]

try and condense 30-40 pages of numbers into 20-30 minutes of video

[harsh oar]

ohh thats what you meann loll

[spice prawn]

there is nothing wrong as such

[harsh oar]

kk

[spice prawn]

its just a very poor conveyor of technical details of this sort

sure, its fine for "this is the summary of things" :)

[harsh oar]

thabks i appreciate it

[spice prawn]

you are very welcome, and do ask if you find more questions :)

[harsh oar]

❤️ will do

[restive grove]

Another dream shot down

[round crown]

Oof

[restive grove]

Geez what's the point of emailing me that you are still "Out of Stock".

[dreamy dragon]

emokun#7411 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[green harness]

Emailing every two weeks would confirm that you haven't been dropped off the list. So I imagine that's the point

[torn thorn]

whats a good response time on a monitor

[restive grove]

@torn thorn Typically 1-2 Milliseconds

[torn thorn]

aight

[restive grove]

Are you shooting for 1080p, or 1440p?

[torn thorn]

i am not too sure

building my first pc with the 3070 so everythings new to me

[restive grove]

its a matter of cost versus performance, 1080p is basically half the cost of 1440p monitors so $149. to $249. usd vs $300.-$500.+

[torn thorn]

ye ill go with 1080 then

one of my freidns told me 144hz IPS panel whatever that means

[restive grove]

I assume you have a screen size in mind, I use 24 inch for the kids but 27 inch for myself

[fervent obsidian]

a cheap 1080p 144hz monitor will be around 150

[restive grove]

144mhz is the refresh rate of the game

[fervent obsidian]

an ips 144hz monitor will be like 180-200 usd

[torn thorn]

g-sync as well

[restive grove]

powerful cards like the 3070 will be able to maintain 144mhz easily depending on your game settings

[elfin barn]

@restive grove that for 1080p or 1440p?

[fervent obsidian]

what is your budget @torn thorn

for the computer itself

[torn thorn]

oh i have all the parts

just looking for a monitor in the meantime

[restive grove]

both, bottlenecks only appear if the gpu and cpu aren't matched

sorry time for me to log to do rl stuff, I'm sure you'll get the full breakdown og a gaming pc here

if not go to the Build Chat Channel

[torn thorn]

honestly i dont mind if my monitor is that good or not, im just not stressed after the 3070's sup-par launch

[restive grove]

the monitor becomes a bottleneck if not up to spec

[elfin barn]

any thoughts on the viewsonic 1440p 144mhz ips monitor?

[restive grove]

so the cards are only as good as the display in that sense

[elfin barn]

heard its the cheapest one for those specs

[restive grove]

Viewsonic was the top tier gaming monitors, I have one in use here

[elfin barn]

oh i didnt know that

though benq and other brands were better

dunno whether the 20-40% higher prices justify it tho

[restive grove]

It used to be that we didn't have multi core, multi threaded cpu's, and so we added high end audio cards to save processing power for gaming.

As mobo audio got better audio cards are nolonger used.

gotta go

[shell mesa]

1660ti v 5600 xt

[crisp ocean]

i believe 5600xt

[spice prawn]

@shell mesa as @crisp ocean said. 5600xt beats it for raw performance

[shell mesa]

yeah okay

[limber ether]

Should I buy a Radeon 5700 or should I wait until I’m able to get an Nvidia 3070? It’s more expensive but I plan on buying one when I can but I don’t have a pc and idk if I should just buy it and sell it later on or wait

[round crown]

Dont get a 5700

[lone pond]

get a 5700xt

[round crown]

No

[lone pond]

if u want one now

[round crown]

Dont

No

[limber ether]

It’s a 5700xt my bad

[lone pond]

if he wants it now he should get a 5700xt

but wait

[round crown]

Get a 3070 or a 6800

[limber ether]

It’s the one on sale on Newegg rn

[lone pond]

thats what i suggest

just wait

u will get better value

[round crown]

2070s gives better perf

[lone pond]

3070 or 6800

[round crown]

Dont get a 5700xt no matter what

[limber ether]

That’s what I thought yeah

[lone pond]

but 2070s is pricey

[round crown]

Which ever one u can get

[lone pond]

if u want 5700xt

performence

stick with the 5700xt

not 2070s

[limber ether]

It’s like $100 more but then I can for sure hit 60fps on 1440p ultra settings

[lone pond]

but i suggest wait

just wait for the 3070

/ 6800

[limber ether]

Would I be able to consistently do 4k with reasonable frame rate with a 3070?

[lone pond]

it will be better price to performence

depends on game

most games yea u should4

but with ray tracing and 4 k ultra

prob 50 fps is more like it

[limber ether]

Because I might consider splurging on a 4k monitor instead of a 1440p monitor

[lone pond]

but most games it would be able to handle it

[limber ether]

Depending on what’s on sale for Black Friday

[lone pond]

yea wait till then

thats when i am buying

[limber ether]

And then for processor would a ryzen 5 3600 work for that or do I need to go more expensive

[lone pond]

that would be bottle neck

[limber ether]

I’m looking to spend probably about $1500-$2000 for a pc and monitor

[lone pond]

go with a 5600x

or wait till 5600

because from leaks, the 5600x is faster than the i9 10900k

[limber ether]

How much is that going to cost though

I’m probably not going to buy a crazy expensive case

[spice prawn]

wait 3 days and see the reviews to verify that :)

[lone pond]

lets take this to #cpus-mobo-and-memory

[spice prawn]

@lone pond as long as no one else is using the channel for something GPU related, you can just stay here if you want :)

[lone pond]

ok

mike as Naed said lets wait a bit for the reviews on the 5600x and then we can make a list for you

if those leaks are true then it would be really good

and you could pair with 3070/6800

and if its out of your budget, you can wait till 5600x

[shell mesa]

Or if you need it now i would go with a used 2080ti

[lone pond]

yea but i suggest you wait

[shell mesa]

or a like new one because that is basically what the 3070 is

[limber ether]

Yeah how is the power draw in comparison though?

[shell mesa]

i dont remember but i think that it is more but then again i really am not sure

[spice prawn]

3070 is "close-ish" to the 2080ti in power draw

[dreamy dragon]

modstack#7109 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[grand pivot]

why is the older rtx cards like 25% more expensive rn?

2070s are going for 800 dollars and 2080s are going for 1,100

[spice prawn]

because the channel is going dry currently

[grand pivot]

Ah

[spice prawn]

nothing to do but wait

[crisp ocean]

because the 30XX series are out of stock and they want to sell the card for around the same price they bought it for

[shell mesa]

Nah i was seeing the 2070s selling for 800 dollars

[crisp ocean]

i mean

thats inflated now

but whats the MSRP again

[lone pond]

Have the best gpu and cpu: still get

[spice prawn]

@crisp ocean 2070 Super : Msrp 500

2060 Super : Msrp 400

2060 : Msrp 300

[crisp ocean]

ah i see

in that case yeah its hella inflated

[urban atlas]

does a rx 580 handle rtx at 30 fps or more

[fathom bear]

@lone pond I recently bought a 3070 and I still get lag spikes in some games. Like c’mon man

Could also be my 2400mhz ram, who knows

[lone pond]

It's going to happen

Cant avoid it

[crisp ocean]

@lone pond I recently bought a 3070 and I still get lag spikes in some games. Like c’mon man
@fathom bear what games? and the ram might need an upgrade

[fathom bear]

Fallout 76 was one that had issues

[crisp ocean]

And does the 3070 have driver issues?

[fathom bear]

Couple others

I don’t think so.

[crisp ocean]

did you download the latest drivers?Q

[fathom bear]

Yep. No issues.

Like said it’s only some games.

[crisp ocean]

make sure youre using directX 12, I havent heard of driver issues

[fathom bear]

Most perform like a champ

[spice prawn]

@urban atlas no. there is no RT hardware on the rx580 cards

[crisp ocean]

Maybe just some driver updates need to be added, typically how it works

ram also though

[spice prawn]

@fathom bear to be fair, Fallout 76 is a mess from a engine POV

so it would be a miracle if there wasnt driver problems with that one

[fathom bear]

That’s true.

[crisp ocean]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-model-3090-nvlink-80mm/p/1DW-000T-00037?Description=3070&cm_re=3070-_-9SIAPBUCK86065-_-Product&quicklink=true

only rtx 30XX Related product nto sold out

[heavy grove]

can someone find me the best 500 dollar streaming gpu thats not the rtx 3070 please

[crisp ocean]

2070 super

nah jk

but wait for the 6800

[heavy grove]

bet

[crisp ocean]

its $550 for FE i think tho

[heavy grove]

Oh ok

Nope I cant its like 700 dollars

[crisp ocean]

thats for the 6800x

[heavy grove]

maybe ill do 5700x

yep

[crisp ocean]

the 6800 is a MSRP of 550

[heavy grove]

us dollars bro'

lol

[spice prawn]

@crisp ocean 3070 FE = 500

[crisp ocean]

what currency you using

@crisp ocean 3070 FE = 500
@spice prawn true

[heavy grove]

US lmao

[spice prawn]

and there is no FE on the amd side

[restive grove]

Hiddy Ho I'm back.....

[crisp ocean]

Ah well whatever the equivelent is i meant the 6800 FE

[heavy grove]

ok

[crisp ocean]

which jsut the manufacturers model ig

Ah maybe its 580

[heavy grove]

yea

5800x seems good

imma get that

to go with 3600x

[crisp ocean]

Do you mean 5700 XT\

[spice prawn]

its just Reference 6800/XT

there is no 5800x GPU @heavy grove

[heavy grove]

Yea

thats what I mean

5700 xt

lmao

[spice prawn]

:)

[heavy grove]

sorry my bad

[spice prawn]

no worries :) just practical for us to verify :)

[heavy grove]

lol

[crisp ocean]

Lol just making sure

im trying to learn more and part of learning is teaching

[heavy grove]

Im gonna get the sapphire versian

[crisp ocean]

Just because computers amaze me lol

[heavy grove]

https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-11293-03-40G-Radeon-Nitro-Graphics/dp/B07XMNGVVD/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=5700xt&qid=1604340542&sr=8-4

This one

[crisp ocean]

Looks like a clean design

[heavy grove]

yea

https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-11293-03-40G-Radeon-Nitro-Graphics/dp/B08BPNL6XY/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=5700xt&qid=1604340542&sr=8-4&th=1

Look at this deal bro

Lmao

Thats such a good deal

734 for 3700x WITH cooler and a 5700 XT

Wow

amazing price

[fathom bear]

Well. 5700xt is ~400 and 3700x is $280 at microcenter so...

[heavy grove]

wait what

[fathom bear]

I don’t think that’s a great deal tbh

[heavy grove]

It comes with that cooler too tho

[fathom bear]

Wraith spire? That’s stock

[heavy grove]

wati nvm

[fathom bear]

Sapphire 11293-03-40G Radeon NITRO+ RX 5700 XT 8GB GDDR6 Dual HDMI / Dual DP OC (UEFI) PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XMNGVVD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_wufOFbVHZFEJB

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core, 16-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Prism LED Cooler https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SXMZLPK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7ufOFbT4E3GH2

Same total price

[heavy grove]

yea

Im gonna get them seprate

so that waty

its 25 dollars less

im gonna get the cpu from micro center

and the gpu from amazon

[fathom bear]

Ryzen is overpriced right now imo

[heavy grove]

mmmmmmmmm

nah

ITs fine

[fathom bear]

If you’re going to buy from microcenter get 9700k or 9900k

[heavy grove]

Its been worse

nah

[fathom bear]

9900k is $20 more than 3700x

[heavy grove]

Yea

But still

Im good

[fathom bear]

Well worth it I think

[heavy grove]

I like amd cpus better '

Im not a big intel cpu guy

[fathom bear]

Amd blinders :p

[heavy grove]

ok

[fathom bear]

Cpu is a cpu, but you can’t go wrong either way

[lone pond]

i have an rx 580 paired with a r5 3600- do you guys think that the bottleneck would be the gpu?

[brisk flame]

depends on the games you play or software you use @lone pond

minecraft will run fine

most games at 1080p at low/med settings will run fine

if you step up to 1440p+ or AAA games with settings cranked, then yes, the gpu could be a bottleneck

[lone pond]

i realize that minecraft will run fine since i get 600+ fps on it, but i also want to get into some streaming for games like valorant, and maybe some other games i will get. overall i just want future compatibility and support

[brisk flame]

your 3600 is doing all that for you

the RX 580 just renders images

valorant is not demanding in any way

neither is cs go

or R6S

[lone pond]

ok thanks

i appreciate it

[brisk flame]

just make sure you dont stream using the gpu, use the cpu

thats something you can figure out once you get to it tho

[crisp ocean]

^

shooting games run fine even with a 1080ti tbh

like

a 1060 gets over 60 fps on all my shooting games and im on laptop, my issue is i have a 165 hz monitor lmao

[brisk flame]

well i mean the 1080ti is leagues ahead of the 580 lmao

[crisp ocean]

thats true too lmao

[brisk flame]

i ran 1080p 144hz on my old rx 470 8gb

ran like a champ, i didnt even need to get my 1080

it was cheap tho, and i wanted to play the new MW

so

[crisp ocean]

yeah, im getting the 3070 more as a future proof card

cause all I got is a 1080p display with 165hz

[brisk flame]

and with that 3070 you can crank things like antialiasing and stuff without taking a perf hit

[crisp ocean]

trueee

i mean

[brisk flame]

make that 1080p look fantastic

[crisp ocean]

valorant will run at 165 so ill be happy lmao

and AC valhalla will even get 165hz on 1080p probably

[rigid crag]

Valorant is very ez to run lol

[crisp ocean]

1060 runs at about 90-120 depending on the map

[random snow]

Nvidia 3000 or AMD 6000?

[untold mason]

Do you do RTX?

@random snow or is it important

[crisp ocean]

Also depends on resolution and which card

[karmic inlet]

Do you have an intel or amd cpu?

[untold mason]

Generally speaking, if you have time to wait, just wait for performance comparisons to come out from 3rd party, then buy

[fathom bear]

Whichever card is available

[crisp ocean]

^^ that too lmao

[untold mason]

Me with a 3090 O_O

[crisp ocean]

rip, in that case a radeon 6900XT is better lmao

[karmic inlet]

well it depends

it is 500 dollars cheaper

[crisp ocean]

frames per dollar, much better

[karmic inlet]

and just as good

[untold mason]

Frames per dollar is much better

but i also do rendreing and stuff

so RAM is needed

[karmic inlet]

but only when it is fully overclocked and pared with the best ryzen cpu

[crisp ocean]

ah gotcha

yeah in that case

[untold mason]

Also howling wolf has a big point

[crisp ocean]

but only when it is fully overclocked and pared with the best ryzen cpu
@karmic inlet where did you get that statistic?

[untold mason]

AND they hadnt factored in DLSS and stuff

[karmic inlet]

when they streamed it

[untold mason]

RAGE MODE

lol

[karmic inlet]

and compared it with the 3090

it said in the bottem corner that the statisctics where with rage mode and cpu pairing on

so you cant push the preformance any more unlike the 3090 which you can still overclock

[untold mason]

AMD presentation had a bunch of gimmicks that boosts their performance, with no note as to whether or not Nvidia's gimmicks were on

Gotta take it with a grain of salt

[unique inlet]

aight boys, i need the hottest takes, do i go amd or nvidia for my next gpu, im on a 1070 rn

[spice prawn]

you are aware that the 3090 is power limited to kingdom come right?

[vestal flax]

Generally speaking, if you have time to wait, just wait for performance comparisons to come out from 3rd party, then buy
@untold mason i would do that.. since we havent seen the AMD 6000 3rd parties in action yet

[untold mason]

Power limited?

[spice prawn]

yes power limited

[karmic inlet]

if you want to look it up search this on youtube and go to 13:18 NVIDIA Never saw this coming... AMD on top??

[spice prawn]

thats the Jayz video right?

[karmic inlet]

yes

[untold mason]

OH you mean like you cant push the power target over a certain point

[spice prawn]

i mean, the 3090 chip is pushed silly high on its voltage curve already

[karmic inlet]

yeah true

[spice prawn]

same for the 3080

[untold mason]

Yeah and ive got the cooling and psu for it

[karmic inlet]

They always push their numbers

[spice prawn]

no, they dont "always" do that

when voltages are pushed like that, you end up with cards with little headroom

[karmic inlet]

well not always but it is alwasy better to wait till unbiased tester try them

[untold mason]

TL;DR if anyone still is waiting for AMD vs NVidia answer : Just wait for 3rd party benchmarks at this point

Im gonna grab some coffee

Nice talking with yall

[karmic inlet]

same from here

[vestal shard]

Is it worth buying 1060 in 2020??

@vestal shard

I have a small budget so i need to get it or 1650 super

[tough rivet]

Personally because of the age I would say not a 1060

But price to performance they are still ok as long as you get a 6gb

[crisp ocean]

1060 is not worth it, 1650 super would be better

wait

maybe im wrong

no I think Im right

[lucid karma]

Do we know anything about the 6800xt encoder?

[brisk flame]

i dont think so

gotta wait for GN to give us the deets

[lucid karma]

That’s what I thought

[vestal shard]

But price to performance they are still ok as long as you get a 6gb
@tough rivet i am getting a 6gb

1060 is not worth it, 1650 super would be better
@crisp ocean not 6gb varient

[crisp ocean]

its slightly better than the 6gb variant

[vestal shard]

No

6gb is slightly better

[crisp ocean]

than a 1650 super?

[lucid karma]

I do streaming stuff, so the encoder might be the thing that decides between the 6800xt and the 3080

[crisp ocean]

Nah the 1650 is better

[brisk flame]

1650 super better, longer driver support

[vestal shard]

Check out a video on Youtube

[brisk flame]

less power usage

new

[vestal shard]

Idc

About

Power usage

[lucid karma]

Wait till your PSU blows up then

[vestal shard]

Wait till your PSU blows up then
@lucid karma bruh i am getting a 550 w psu

[lucid karma]

Idk how that translates to your stuff

[vestal shard]

My pc specs will be

[lucid karma]

Cause I got an 850 and I’m hoping it’ll work out for me

[vestal shard]

Ryzen 7 2700

B450 mobo

[crisp ocean]

an 850 with WHAT?

[vestal shard]

And 16gb ram 8X2

And a 1060

[dreamy dragon]

Yoda#1735 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[vestal shard]

Cause I got an 850 and I’m hoping it’ll work out for me
@lucid karma excuse me what the hell

An 850 PSU

You mother...

[crisp ocean]

w hat is the 850 paired with?

[vestal shard]

Frick him

[lucid karma]

What’d I do

[vestal shard]

What are your pc specs

@lucid karma

You don't freaking need a 850 wat psu

[lucid karma]

Well I’m looking to get a 5900x and a 6800xt or 3080

[crisp ocean]

ah ok thats understandable

i thought you were getting a 850 for a 1060 lmao

[vestal shard]

Well I’m looking to get a 5900x and a 6800xt or 3080
@lucid karma understandable have a nice day👍

i thought you were getting a 850 for a 1060 lmao
@crisp ocean me too

[lucid karma]

Oh no definitely not lmao

[south solstice]

I'm going from a RX 590, to a 1060, then soon getting a 6800xt I hope

[vestal shard]

an 850 with WHAT?
@crisp ocean that expression 😂😂

[lucid karma]

(Honestly I’m probably going overboard with my pc specs)

[crisp ocean]

lmao I was gonna say people call my 750 PSU with a 3070 and 5600x overkill

[vestal shard]

@lucid karma I think you might want to maybe increase your psu watt

lmao I was gonna say people call my 750 PSU with a 3070 and 5600x overkill
@crisp ocean no its less...

[crisp ocean]

850 is more than enough lmaoo

750 is fine

more than enough

i might lower it to a 650 or 700 tbh

[vestal shard]

850 is more than enough lmaoo
@crisp ocean according to Linus

[crisp ocean]

Linus

[vestal shard]

300

[crisp ocean]

ok

[vestal shard]

3000

Series is

Power sucker

[lucid karma]

Yeah

Like the power spikes

[vestal shard]

Yup

I need to sleep

It's 2 am for me

I want to sleep

It's freaking 2AM in midnight

Freaaaakkk

Help

Send help

Bye guys

I am going to sleep

[lucid karma]

Bye

[crisp ocean]

Power spikes were an issue with the 3090 more than the other cards

[lucid karma]

Killing the 1000 psus

Yeah the 850 should be good for me

[crisp ocean]

This should be pinned somewhere

[lucid karma]

3080, Ryzen 9, says 850 sweet I’m good

[crisp ocean]

650w is my recommended

[hard wren]

I like to go higher than recommended to cut down on PSU fan noise

not way higher but like if it says a 550w get 650w imo

[lucid karma]

So I should’ve gotten like a 1000?

[fathom bear]

It doesn’t matter if the noise doesn’t bug you

[hard wren]

I would have with a 3080 and ryzen 9 but other than ramping up the PSU fan every now and then it wont be an issue

[fathom bear]

They are typically less efficient at higher wattage

[lucid karma]

Oh yeah, that’s fine

[fathom bear]

850 is plenty for your pc. I also have 850

[hard wren]

like my 1000w PSU is over kill with a 8700k and 2080ti but its fan never turns on lol

[lucid karma]

Makes sense. 1000w is expensive though

[hard wren]

I do pay a premium for silence

[lucid karma]

Not like I’d be able to hear the fan anyways, with how loud my roommates are

[hard wren]

Part of it was I had like a really bad run with 850w corsair PSUs for some reason. They are a good company they just kept dying on me and I was like I'm done with this and bought this Evga 1000w and havent had an issue and noticed how much quieter it is

[lucid karma]

Oof

I got the Corsair 850w

[hard wren]

like I said they are good company I think it was an anomaly

[shadow horizon]

Is the 3070 paired with the 7 3800X ok?

[hard wren]

yes it would be just fine

[lone pond]

is rtx 2060 and r5 3600 a good combo

[hard wren]

also yes

[lone pond]

thank god

that’s what i have

[hard wren]

@shadow horizon there would be a slight bottleneck for a 3070 and 3800x but nothing to worry about

[lone pond]

my motherboard is weird tho

ik this is the wind channel but can your help me

[hard wren]

sure

[lone pond]

i told my problem in #cpus-mobo-and-memory

[clever pelican]

Evening

Who here regrets buying a 5700xt ? My red Devil 5700xt still suffers from black screens, no matter what driver i use

[brisk flame]

might not be a driver related issue

or even related to the gpu

explain the issue a bit more

[hard wren]

actually a lot of those 5700xt black screens were caused by windows power settings

[shadow horizon]

Ok then I'll just wait to get the 5800X or 3900X, Which is better?(ik there are no independent benchmarks for Zen 3)

[quaint mirage]

Ive got a compact prebuild computer and i wanna stick a graphics card in that i have but my power supply isnt good enough, can i get a second power supply and hot glue it to the outside of my case

and just run the card from it

[fervent sedge]

I've learned about 15 minutes ago that 2060-2080 graphics cards are no longer being manufactured, so thats why they're so high in price in canada currently

1660s are being made, just not the 2000 series

[burnt stag]

I'm still only pushing only a msi rtx 2080 gaming x trio

Wandering if I should go for the 3090 series

When there is supply

[naive girder]

Guys do you know where all of the new nvidia cards and radeon cards are sold im pretty new to building PCs and stuff

[quaint mirage]

newegg id guess

[hard wren]

newegg, amazon, tiger direct are the main ones i check

[naive girder]

ok

Cuz i wanna get the Radeon 6800 XT I just want to get it within the 10 minutes it will exist lol

[empty compass]

Hey guys, I'm new here, wondering if the Zotac rtx 2060 is a good starting GPU, I'm pairing it with a Ryzen 7 2700x

[hard wren]

it certainly is

[clever pelican]

Only get it in selected games, Like Ark Evolution and Age of empires 2

Got Ryzen high preformance settings on

[hard wren]

did you check windows power settings

[clever pelican]

yeah

[empty compass]

Cool thanks, I figured it was good but I wasn't entirely sure, wanted to see really if it was good bang for the buck.

[hard wren]

@clever pelican

make sure link state power management setting is set to off under advanced power settings in windows

[clever pelican]

yeah its off

[hard wren]

ok

well then its the card or AMD drivers fault

[clever pelican]

Probably Drivers since i have two of those cards, and both experience it, other wise its a great card in the games that it doesn't happen to 😛

[hard wren]

but a lot of people dont know to turn that off and have similar issues simply due to that

[shell geode]

@clever pelican if its amd drivers try using the earliest drivers available for download, and also reinstalling gpu bios can also help

[tulip sapphire]

So... do we expect the new AMD's to hold their value for a bit?

[clever pelican]

will look into that @shell geode , might also test it with HDMI cable instead of a display port

[lone pond]

I've got an msi armor RX 580 4gb and it runs like T r a s h

[limber ether]

If I’m going to buy a 3070 should I get a 1440p or 4k monitor?

[clever pelican]

since the black screens only happen on my main monitor, might be that,

[limber ether]

I just don’t know if it’s worth the lower frame rate for 4k

[small sphinx]

any clue when the 3070 will be wont be gone as soon as its in stock

[limber ether]

Probably around January from what I’ve heard

[small sphinx]

kinda pisses me off that legit ppl cant get them and the scalpers get them all

[hard wren]

@limber ether its personal preference but I think it is I use a 2080ti and enjoy 4k in most games it depends on how important frame rate is for being competitive vs how much you enjoy sharper better visuals

like in a single player game I want it to be in 4k every time

[limber ether]

But then usually in multiplayer I would pro end up wanting to run 1440p but 4k in single player

[tulip sapphire]

I bought a 4k monitor without really thinking about it enough and kind of locked myself into it now lol

[limber ether]

And I know of you set it to a lower resolution on a higher resolution monitor it looks weird

[tulip sapphire]

It looks terribad

that is the main reason I started my current/new build

1080p on a 4k monitor is awful

[hard wren]

4k doesnt affect my game play in world or warcraft or warthunder but if I want to play like counterstrike I prefer 1440p

[limber ether]

I probably am going to play a lot of COD

[hard wren]

see so for you a 1440p monitor might be more practical

you will get over 70fps in COD in 4k if the 3070 is like a 2080ti

[limber ether]

Also I kind of don’t want to spend more than $350 on a monitor but want at least 1440p

And 144hz I think makes sense

[hard wren]

yep I think you are best getting a 144hz 1440p monitor

[limber ether]

But yeah I really don’t know it just seems like a 4k 144hz monitor would be wildly out of my price range

[lucid karma]

I got a 144hz 1440p monitor for about $350

[limber ether]

I’ll wait until they get cheaper and get a 1440p monitor until then

[hard wren]

it would and you wouldnt need the 144hz in 4k anyway but if you wanted to drop res to up framerate you would

[naive girder]

I’ll wait until they get cheaper and get a 1440p monitor until then
@limber ether On pcpartpicker theres a few for around 250

[hard wren]

of course I am using 2 55" 4k samsung tv as my monitors so to each their own lol

[naive girder]

😳

[lucid karma]

How much are those

They sound expensive

[hard wren]

they were very expensive when I got them but not as much now and they were a "work expense" so.... didn't really cost "me" anything

[limber ether]

I mean what’s the refresh rate on them though

[hard wren]

120hz native

[limber ether]

I have a 70” 4k tv that I use for general tv use

But idk what the refresh rate is

[lucid karma]

I don’t have a tv

[hard wren]

🥲

[lucid karma]

I got a 27 inch monitor though, and it’s a freaking big boi

[hard wren]

my response time is rather awful though but it doesnt bother me too much

its like 6.43 ms

[lucid karma]

My monitor says 1ms but idk

[hard wren]

that would be a benefit to having a real monitor the close to 1 ms response time

[naive girder]

Is 3 front fans, 1 rear exhaust fan, and an AIO cooler with 3 fans (watercooled) enough for Radeon 6000 and Zen 3

[hard wren]

yes

[naive girder]

ok thx

[hard wren]

I mean you cant really take that as a blanket statement they would need to be in case that allowed some airflow like if you put all those things in a blanket it would overheat

[naive girder]

well yeah

[lone pond]

Ive got a 3090 TI Super MAX Plus Founders Edition

[naive girder]

the aio coolder are gonna be on top

cooler

[limber ether]

Oh yeah the response time is no good

I’ll probably buy a 1440p monitor

[tulip sapphire]

So, here is my question. Do AMD's GPU drivers actually work these days?

Because the new cards are temping from a performance standpoint, but, uh, the software side of things has been less then amazing over the years

[half geyser]

is the 3600+1660 reasonable?

[brisk flame]

for 1080p gaming, yes

[naive girder]

Sure

[frozen quartz]

yes, i have a 9600k and 1660 and its great

3600 is very similar

[brisk flame]

1660 super would be dope if you can stretch the budget for it

or maybe look into the used card market

[frozen quartz]

used gpus are iffy

[half geyser]

okay

im willing to pay extra to make sure i get a legit new gpu

[naive girder]

used gpus are iffy
@frozen quartz why would you ever do that lol

[brisk flame]

you just have to know what youre doing when you go used gpu hunting

its not hard

[frozen quartz]

the 3060 when it comes out

would be very good

(if its in stock lol)

[naive girder]

Imma get the Radeon 6800 XT

[frozen quartz]

nice, thats the 3080 competitor right

[naive girder]

Yeah

[frozen quartz]

cool

[naive girder]

It’s supposed to be better with the specs they’ve announced

But we’ll see

Also way cheaper

[trim orchid]

I really Want A 3090

[lone pond]

i recomend not geting 1080p

because its actually SO BAD

[naive girder]

Yeah I’m gonna get 2k

[frozen quartz]

i think the 6800xt and 3080 will be about the same in day-to-day use personally

because amd might have used the ryzen 5000 and nvidia didnt have acess to that

[naive girder]

Just making sure what is the 3080 specs

Are

[frozen quartz]

lemme see

[late reef]

They did use the Ryzen 5000 series for all benchmarks they showed.

[frozen quartz]

that

and nvidia didnt/couldnt

[naive girder]

They did use the Ryzen 5000 series for all benchmarks they showed.
@late reef I’m gonna use it

[frozen quartz]

so theyre probably the same

[late reef]

Does anyone have any ideas when the cards are gonna be back in stock? Or is it kinda just wait hope you're quick on the draw?

[naive girder]

Wait but what are the specs

[frozen quartz]

of the 3080?

[naive girder]

Yeah

It keeps on deleting what

[frozen quartz]

i tried to send a link\

hold on

[naive girder]

Dm me it

[frozen quartz]

anyway i think the amd and nvidia cards will be vrey similar if not the same due to the cpu used

[naive girder]

The 6800 XT is gonna have 2 gigahertz game clock

[frozen quartz]

yea

[naive girder]

And 16 gig GDDR6 ram

[frozen quartz]

whats the bandwith

[naive girder]

Lemme check

[frozen quartz]

of radeon

[naive girder]

512 GBPs

[frozen quartz]

760 GB/per sec

for 3080

[naive girder]

Oh well the memory is faster on the other one but everything else is way better

And price

Plus smart access memory

And more memory in the first place

[frozen quartz]

i wont believe it till benchmarks on both are run with a R9 5900x

then ill have faith in amd's gpus

[rancid night]

any thoughts on RX 5600 XT as a budget choice? seems to be cheaper than comparable nvidia stuff (and I do prefer amd for driver compatibility, ik it's usually worse but I'm special on this point I promise)

[frozen quartz]

i would choose the 1660 super because of better preformance, but if you really want AMD, then spend more for a 5700

[naive girder]

Or if you’re going really cheap the 1650 super

Can’t post links oof

[rancid night]

yeah my bad ig

[frozen quartz]

or if you really dont care go with a used gtx 1070

[rancid night]

it was benchmarks showing the 5600 is better than the 1660S at 60$ more

+24% better

[frozen quartz]

then go 5600\

its a good card

[rancid night]

thanks for the help, I hadn't even thought about the 5700

[frozen quartz]

5700xt is like a 2060 super but slightly cheaper

[rancid night]

it looks like they trade blows so to speak

[old narwhal]

I also planing to buy 5700xt, other youtubers compared to rtx 2070 and its much faster

[gray python]

What's the best way for me to get my hands on 3080 or 3090? I've tried auto-notify on some sites but it gets sold out immediately

[lusty stone]

pray, the scalpers have there bots on the websites running 24 hours non stop getting a item during a restock against botters is much harder then getting the item when it drops.

[gray python]

I might just invest in a bot. At this rate, I won't get a card until like February or March

[lusty stone]

what card do you curretly have

[gray python]

1080ti

I skipped a gen because I was skeptical about the 20 series

[lusty stone]

I used to be a botter and its not easy. you gonna need more then you think. you can just click start and boom you took the whole stock.

[gray python]

oof

[lusty stone]

but im not assuming that you have ever used a bot or not

[gray python]

I haven't

[lusty stone]

just to run a bot you need proxies. scripts, etc

and most bots that are good are usally very expensive.

[gray python]

Well, I can tell you that I'm not paying scalper prices

[lusty stone]

yea dont

i mean unless you have some serious issuses with you GPU then i would say just wait for its to have a mass restock or price drop.

[gray python]

Yeah, I'm just looking at this amazing performance and am wanting to get a piece of it lol

[lusty stone]

im also butt hurt about it the greedy resellers have to take everything. dont know why they cant just stick to shoes.

i mean i see AMD is doing good but there scalpers might just take those too.

[topaz willow]

scalpers only want one thing and its disgusting

[lusty stone]

true

[rotund raptor]

should i get a 3080 or 90

for 4K 60hz

[manic palm]

you should get whatever you can get your hands on lol, there is barely any stock for either, at this point, if you have the cash just buy it. They are both good enough for that

[royal copper]

3080 should do fine with it, and 3090 is really if you have money laying around lol, can support 8k 60hz with dlss tho

does depend on game also tho

[north juniper]

i mean intel graphics is pretty good

[lone pond]

is rx 5700xt good for 4k 60hz?

I have asrock taichi one

[clever harbor]

wait for 6000 series

or do u already have it

[lone pond]

I have it though

I said I have

[clever harbor]

o ok

probably

[lone pond]

or should I do 1440p 144hz

[clever harbor]

1440p

i mean u can change it anytime

but

it depends what games

like an fps will need more fps

[naive girder]

On pcpartpicker theres a few for around 250

[clever harbor]

but ur like playin Tetris then 4k is fine

[naive girder]

Well if i were you id wait for 8k

[clever harbor]

true

i mean its a 5700xt

[naive girder]

lmaoo

[clever harbor]

can it do 8k?

[naive girder]

powerpoint at 8k

[clever harbor]

lol

[lavish gust]

you can try the offline dinasar game at 8k 240 fps

[worn gazelle]

does anyone have a RTX 3080

[lavish gust]

no lol

[limpid wasp]

What’s up with 3090 stock you would think at least that be available

[worn gazelle]

ya

i hope 3080s are up before christmas

i was going to get one for my b day that was a week before they dropped and we all know what happened

[near shadow]

You and me both. As much as I doing with my measily 1060 right now, nabbing a 3070 or 3080 is my goal.