#graphics-cards
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i want to basically get the best possible graphics card for 1080 gaming for that CPU
i don't have enough money to build a new PC
1060 6 gb
Anything else will be a waste
Whats the budget for the new gpu
Im not saying buy a new system, im saying upgrade the mobo,ram and cpu
doesn;t matter
Mobo and cpu first, ram can stay
$300-$350
looking at this one
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 OC 6G Graphics Card, 2X Windforce Fans, 6GB 192-bit GDDR5, Gv-N1660OC-6GD Video Card
What size is your case @shrewd zenith
@cyan vault also do note monitor. Believe a 60Hz monitor would bottleneck both the CPU and GPU
True
So can just set to max graphics or something and that 1660S will be fine "bottlenecking" wise
Get a new gpu if you want @shrewd zenith, id spend 20$ over budget and get this instead: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/DBBk6R
With having a 1070, that's like ~70 FPS on average I think for max-ish settings
Might have been my 1070Ti too tho as idk now that it's been a while
@cyan vault but than I still won't have a video card LOL
You will have your old r9 280x
And then get a used rx580 from ebay later
It will be worth it a lot more in the long run
I mean now that games are more multi threaded friendly FX isn't super duper horrible anymore
Yeah, but its not on am4
They said they will keep it through 2021 I think
this is my current card
Thats still a while
5000 is excepted to be new socket tho
man, thank you everyone so much I'm really learning a lot here
lets say my budget is $1000 for a brand new PC, Canadian, including taxes.. than what would u suggest?
Well, taxes vary from 5% to 13% I think
In Canada
Might be max of 15%
So depends on where you live in Canada
I'm at 13% in Ontario
@wicked hound what would u build with that for MAX 1080 gaming possibly on ULTRA settings
btw, do u guys know how much I could sell this used OLD PC for if I decide to build a new one?
With 2x8 gigs of DDR3 ram, R9 280x 3GB windforce, 1x 950 evo 250 gig SSD
FX-8350
Make a pcpp list with all your parts
@shrewd zenith so $15 CAD over budget pre tax and $17 CAD overbudget after tax
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/6xgNYH
I don't like the case, I don't need a hard drive or PSU, i gota 650 brand new fully modular corsair PSU the other day
Corsair RM(x)?
yeah
@wicked hound, i basically want a case/GPU/CPU/memory and maybe a 500 gig Evo 970 Plus m.2 drive
I would advised against Samsung as they are overpriced
5700xt or 2060 super
@shrewd zenith
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/8R4mNq
@tall berry depends on what you do
thanks
@tall berry if you plan on streaming 2060S if not 5700xt
Ok thanks
Haha, nice cropp
ping
I think it sucks for the consumer that socket types are lasting sometimes a year or year and a half. I get (I went to school for Electrical Engineering emphasis on programming) that new tech needs more access to pci express lanes etc but longer planning to help the consumer have more long Gevity in their investment would be appreciated.
under $300, what is the best upgrade from an rx 580 8gb? can be certified refurb or new
@lucid whale USD?
yes
ryzen 5 2600
hi, anyone have good recommendations for GPU for machine and deep learning
i am considering either 2080Ti RTX or Titan RTX
i am looking for something that can provide enough gpu ram for GANs and NLP type applications
Get an rtx8000 if no budget
would it be preferable to have a single Titan RTX, or 2 2080Ti RTX, or a single 2080 Ti RTX
Titan rtx is best
would it be preferable to have a single Titan RTX, or 2 2080Ti RTX, or a single 2080 Ti RTX
@torpid parrot RTX 8000 🙂 thats quadro btw https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/quadro/rtx-8000/
NVIDIA Quadro RTX 8000 is the most significant advancement in computer graphics in two decades.
@torpid parrot Depends on what you do
very specifically
Because it becomes a matter or architecture, amount of VRAM, VRAM bandwidth, etc
Going for multiple Radeon Instinct cards can be better then one Nvidia card
depending on scenario
i seen two drivers in amd.. theres one driver called the same name but theres pro beside it xD special for content creators.. very optimize for adobe apps.
cad animation and rendering they say
Im pretty sure Radeon Instinct wasnt really made for workloads that you'd just do on Adobe apps
They're more datacenter oriented cards
@wicked hound I am looking to use workflows for GANs and NLP
So you get like 64 of them and run the simultaneously
@torpid parrot what are you currently working with hardware-wise?
@torpid parrot Problem I have is I know what to look out for, but have no real knowledge on what to recommend. So I cant help much
because there is no sense in making you switch architecture quirks in the middle of doing whatever it is you are doing.
tensorflow is now ROCm ready
@stiff zodiac wait it out and let him answer.
@spice prawn I am looking to use the GPU with an intel i9 cpu (perhaps 10900X)
@spice prawn it is also for a new build, so it wouldnt be any switch of any architecture and such, and the workflow is also new
hm
just to clarify here, is it a turnkey solution or a custom solution you will be using ? (on the software side)
@torpid parrot see above
@spice prawn it is a DIY build, so a custom solution
just to clarify, we are talking about the software for the NLP work right?
@spice prawn for the NLP work I plan on using LSTM and other algos, perhaps the new Reformer algo , and mostly for self work with biomedical data; i also plan to use other algos for image analysis as well
and you have experience working with this?
(i am just trying to make certain that you have not just been convinced by some random person to spend a fortune on hardware)
because a rack for it can be reasonable for some people, and a single box under the desk is overkill for others
so the "range" is fairly bonkers for the general consumer.
@spice prawn I am not looking to spend a fortune on the hardware, I am looking to get the right hardware for these types of analyses, I also have to process genomic data and alignments as well, for which preprocessing eats up lots of ram especially for sequence alignments
i dont doubt you, i am just trying to make certain you know what you are asking for, before i start talking about it. I hope that makes sense?
@spice prawn, yes makes sense
@spice prawn i am considering going with either 1 or 2 2080 Ti RTX, i9 10900X, and either 128 or 256 gb of ram
so you are going avx512?
@spice prawn I am not sure yet if the work will require AVX512, but there would be matrix vector calculations likely used with sparse datasets
fair enough
because that is more or less the only benefit, aside from raw single core ofc
@spice prawn the only benefit of what in regards to what
AMD
Cuz I mean, 3950x or TR
ok
mind, i dont personally care about you going intel or amd. but i would prefer that you at least are aware of the options :)
well the reason for selecting intel over AMD was because python libraries seem to be optimized for intel vs AMD
that is your end of things :)
you can be optimized, but optimization cant always beat raw perf
in stuff like this, it generally does @wicked hound
because there is too much money involved
the raw performance of i5 can apparently beat out the AMDs for work with numpy and other calculations
my question though was mainly about the GPU though
aye
(not important, but could you at some point, link those results? because i am curious about that bench)
on the gpu side of things
you would be dealing with having 2 banks of 11gig ram
a rtx titan would grant you a single 24gig block, mind, it would be less total compute resources
@spice prawn, right but RTX titan, though it would be a single 24 GB block, it does not have a blower fan design as some of the 2080 Ti RTX do; I am also not sure if RTX Titan even provides much performance benefit over 2080 Ti RTX
compute wise, there is a tiny bit.
ok
the 2080ti is a slightly cutdown titan
with a bunch less ram etc
personally, i would not worry about the difference in performance.
and then again
(sorry, i have to get those old brain cells working, this is not a topic that comes up much here)
@spice prawn so which one would you recommend
IF you are using the tensorcores, there is a software limit on how FP16/FP32 works
right that is true
and on that front, the titan is double the speed of the 2080ti
Titan is something like 130 teraflop at fp16 and the 2080 is .. 60-ish something
have you had experience using the Titan RTX or know of someone who has used it
i have never coded for them, if that is what you mean
i have installed plenty of them in both machines and racks
yes, I was referring to coding or development for them
what have they told you about their experience with using Titan RTX
the users are happy
and the technicians seem happy too
mind, technicians are never truly happy
so basically you are suggesting that I should go with Titan RTX
it IS a powerhouse of a card if you are moving in nvidia land
there is just no denying that
and IF your current deployment will only need at max two of them, the cooler is not a problem
let me correct myself.
IF you current deployment doesnt need a board with them stacked fin-to-fin and fully populated. there is no problem
the upside is that you will have a more silent box
a more silent box with which card
the titan
blower style coolers will be louder
it is physics 101
but again, this only matters if we are talking about the system being near you
right, I am not sure how many I may need to stack
if they are in a rack? blast the music and rock on.
and that is a question i cannot answer for you.
you are in the "annoying" part of the spec where doing a test would be the smartest
but most likely also the most annoying thing
Afternoon all I'm looking into getting a 1660 ti would that mess up anything for my i7 4790 and z87-plus motherboard? Just want to find out before telling my fiance a birthday present for july lol
Or and sorry I currently have a 1050 ti
1660 Super
^
I debated between 1660s and ti for a while but the price difference isn't justified by the performance of the ti
I have the ASUS DUAL and it's pretty nice. Only downside is the LED that's always on.
Still need to cover it with electrical tape
he thicc
That is really really nice that wouldn't be bad for my computer
It's got a blue theme
then it wouldn't work out too bad, would it? haha
Hahaha
it's a 2.7 slot card so it's pretty large
Yeah I have an msi 1050 ti right now came with the computer before i did some swapping
I know what the MSI 1050 Ti's look like as well
Also the 1660 Super i selected there is a thicc version so it has a thicker heatsink and i have the non super version and using it on silent mode i get at most 60c on load
@gray vapor oh I know you know just showing the tower and what not
That isnt bad yeah I'm looking at your link now
always go with evga for nvidia? eh you are kind of reaching there with that claim.
some people really like evga
@worn vector I got the 1660 ti installed today, the thing looks flawless, here's its run: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/24854185
sorry for the bad image, but I forgot to take a picture b4 putting it in, and the its my friends build and I'm letting him take the exterior plastic film off when he wants
opinions on the xfx 590 fatboy?
all the negative reviews are putting me off getting one
I wanted to get one but I need smol boy card 😔
what do the bad reviews say?
inno3d
never heard of them
@quasi parcel a new card, from a retailer is 499
this is the case I have, the hard drive bays are on the right and the bottom drive would block a larger GPU, wouldn't it?
rear
it has plenty of room lengthwise, but the width of the card looks like it would be limited
eh, do you even have the gpu power connectors for that?
not at all
because i dont see any spare cables up there @quasi parcel
oop :p
g
I have around 600-700 dollars to spend on a graphics card; my monitor is a 1080p display, 144 hz refresh rate, 1 ms response time, True Color- NTSC 85%, sRGB 110%, 1800R curve panel design, 27 inches in size, and AMD's FreeSync Premium Technology, etc. Though you could just call it a MSI OPTIX G27C2 Monitor. I will be upgrading to a 1440p display with the same specs though from MSI.
Just a piece of feedback, that is very hard to read
i know
im editing it
The point is I want a RTX 2070 Super--most likely the R.O.G. version of the card--so that I can run games at 144 or near to 144 FPS. It has better overclocking capabilities than the 5700XT, runs cooler and quieter in some cases, it also requires less power draw in certain cases, the majority of times it produces greater frames than the 5700XT, etc. Though, I want to also go for an 5700XT from AMD: it is cheaper; in some cases uses lower watts; and in some cases pulls in better frames than the RTX 2070 SUPER though to be honest that is rare, requires intensive overclocking compared to the RTX 2070 Super, and it usually happens in all of the games that I don't play currently.
you seem to be answering your own un-stated question
I am scared of buying a 5700XT because of black screening issues and other people warning people about not getting the 5700XT--I even asked a guy and he said 100% to get a RTX 2070 Super--because of so many driver issues that have not been resolved.
I do not need PCI-e gen 4 because I currently run a R7 2700x with a B350M Mortar Arctic Motherboard from MSI paired with ddr4 memory at 2400mhz currently overclocked to 2933mhz with timings of 16-16-16-36, and I also have a Gigabyte GTX 1050 TI at gddr5 memory with 4gb. Ignorant me did not think of upgrading to a RTX 2070 Super or 5700XT because I thought I was either upgrading to a RX 590/RX 580/RTX 2060 and bought a 600 watt rated power supply from EVGA with an 80 plus rated power efficiency and I am worried of not having enough power to run either card.
I know it is messy but im kind of rushing
power should not be a problem
ofc, i would value having the exact model of psu @unkempt stratus ?
Whats the pros and cons of two 3gb cards vs one 4-6 gb card as far as gamming goes?
@dusk cedar considering that SLI/Crossfire (the use of two GPU's at the same time for gaming) is fairly broken in general
the con is that it just doesnt scale remotely close to what you might wish
does that make sense or?
I guess heres my question, I have a gtx 1060, I was thinking about maybe picking up another one second hand or I can spend a bit more and get one 4gb card possibly, this is all theoretical due to lack of funds currently
i would strongly recommend that you save for a single card that is an upgrade
Ok thank you
you are very welcome :)
and just so you are informed about it. You can find benchmarks that show the "wonders" of SLI/Crossfire.
but, the actual use of it is imo more of a headache than a joy to use
So generally speaking 1 card is usually better then 2 for gaming?
SLI is pretty much only useful now if you want to get the high score in 3DMark
a theoretical use case, that had a potential usecase was VR, but that has not really shown itself yet
@dusk cedar The thing is for SLI/Crossfire is you're just piggy backing performance from the other GPU but if you're using 3gb Vram you will still use 3gb Vram regardless
and i would not hold my breath for it
So is there no real reason to run 2 gpus outside of benchmarking and wasting money?
i guess so
pretty much
You'd have a better experience using a 2060 Super than to get another 1060
you could get a 5700 if you have the funds
that would be really strong
compared to the gtx 1060
@unkempt stratus it is not that nice to recommend something you would not potentially use yourself :)
@dusk cedar for now, enjoy the system and ask again when you are planning to upgrade :)
So I have a Ryzen 5 2600x and I am planning on upgrading my gpu and I don’t know what to buy and I have around $650
@tall berry what is the rest of the system looking like?
i think you should be able to get a 2080/2080 super for that money
16gb of ram 3200mhz 750 watt power supply and a 1660
you got a ssd?
Yea I know @hollow horizonk but would that bottleneck my system
just yes/no is enough
look up, that is a lovely typo :)
Lmao yea
:)
There I changed it lol
:)
your budget keeps you just out of 2080super range
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YKbwrH/msi-geforce-rtx-2080-founders-edition-8gb-gaming-x-trio-video-card-rtx-2080-gaming-x-trio <- something like that is however perfectly in range
you just have to remember that warranty is VERY reduced on refurbs
Ok thanks but wouldnt that bottleneck my system
not really
think about it like this, you will know what to upgrade later on
cpu
and you are very welcome :)
if you have a white build and you are getting a 2080ti, then thats kinda your only option so i guess
IF the colour is worth it for you? then yes
but its like $300/400 over other 2080tis
yes
my builds all white except the mobo
i would personally paint the shroud myself IF i had to
you could buy a nonwhite one and paint the shell if you are savy enough, but i wouldn't if you don't know what you're doing
and to reinforce on what @hexed forge said. IF you dont know how. Ask someone that does.
i would be more wary about it simply becasue 2080ti is expensive and if you break it doing that its not going to be eligible to be RMA'd.
the shroud should be possible to buy from someone that has gone water
but, it would most likely not be cheap
anyone reccomend a 2080 ti ?running a maximus 11 hero with i9
no to worried about it being white
basically whichever model you think looks nice
or whichever model is cheapest 
i second that. i love EVGA nvidia cards.
what's the difference in that one and the ultra version?
also are the liquid cooler ones any better?
higher boost clock out of the box
and for the hybrid versions, what i said above
the actual difference when running will be VERY minimal
it is up to you if you find that worth the money
boost clock is like 15 higher from the xc and the xc ultra that really any difference?
imo, it doesnt matter one bit
the evga ultra cards are 3 slots, and have hella chonky heatsinks that help with cooling
heres the xc vs xc ultra 2080 (should be similar for ti)
it should be
and thank you for the reminder about that @granite juniper
does not change performance enough imo
they look pretty much the same except for heatsink width
thicc is better 😛
^
looking at the evga forums, it should be like 5-10c cooler with a lower fan curve, but the only 2080 ti with noticeably better performance is hof/kingpin oc'd
which is still silly expensive right?
yuh
hm apparently the xc ultra is fine for the 380w vbios, if you want to oc/tweak the bios you could get a nice mhz boost
any one run a 2080 ti EVGA FTW3 ultra and water cooled it? if so what's your guys OC
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-19-12-1 working driver for your rx 5700xt
for that price... you could get 2060 KO
where?
yours is US, so prices are def not the same lol
😛
i konw
i won't be doing anything higher than MAX Settings 1080 gaming for the next at least 2 years
I am, I have been up for 2.5 hours.. its 632am here and I haven't had one 🙂
@shrewd zenith you can get a 1660 super for $5 more https://www.newegg.ca/msi-geforce-gtx-1660-super-gtx-1660-super-ventus-xs-oc/p/N82E16814137475
yo i know im gonna sound like a broke boi when i say this but can someone link me a gpu they recommend to be paired with an 15 3470. its clocked at 3.2 ghz btw
i5* lmao idk why i said 15
How many cores
thank you @granite juniper thats the card I'm looking at
@tall berry its got 4
are these bottleneck calculators for real?
You could probably do a 1660 or a 580
is there one that actually works? i was told a lot are fake are designed to push certain cards/CPUs et
1660 is much newer
Or a 1050
alr thx @tall berry
Maybe a 1050ti
cool
is this a good graphics card? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JHQT1SE?tag=br-amazon08-20&th=1
@thorn kestrel noooo
yea most def not
Its good but not for that price
do you have any recommendations?
2060 ko dude
alright
that is overpriced af
if you want those clocks then get a 1660 or 1660 ti but if you want that price then yea hes right get a 2060 ko
careful going with older hardware, it can often be overpriced like that
yea
oh okay
unless you are buying used on ebay or somthing
thank you :)
ofc
Quick question, is a zotac 1050 ti oc 4gb for 50 USD worth a hour drive?
for $50 thats a pretty good deal, but don't know much about budget cards
if it works, yes.
Debating on it
for $50 thats a great card
a new gt710 costs $50
and its nowhere near as powerful as the 1050ti
hour drive is a lot tho
take the bus 👀
that gas money and the price of the card will still be less than a 1050ti tho
so i say go for it
just make sure you can test it... unless you know the person selling it.
it could be bad/artifacting
Yeah I want to make sure I can test it first. Not trying to waste my money. And it's not something I NEED, it's not for my rig. Just couldn't really pass it up
haha
Tommorow I'll share a cool graphics card mod
cant wait
@tired swan it'll be good
should i get a Rx 470 Or a Rx 560 Any tips on which i should get. And i want AMD so Please no NVidia Stuff
470
I would say RX 470 would provide better frame rates
About 2x faster then a 560
It’s still a pretty outdated card
Any 5 series cards are just OCed 4 series
no differences
but a 470 is literally twice as fast as a 460 (same for 5 series). Due to it being a OCed 460 (560) then it'll come up to be a bit less then 2x perf
hey everyone, I'm looking to replace my r9 280x
just don't cut it for higher settings 1080 gaming\
i'm torn between a 580 rx or a 1660 super
Aren’t you the one asking about 580s and 1660s almost every single day ? I mean there’s nothing wrong about that but I thought you made your mind about what you were getting
1660 SUPER > 580
yah but there are so many options
and yes I'm sorry can't decide, my apologies, I see how it can be annoying
No the server is there for this purpose, don’t worry about having a lot ask about 😉
If you’re hesitating between 1660 SUPER and RX 580, 1660 super is better
But I’m sure someone else already told you that previously
yes yes, @verbal cairn I did decide on the 1660 super
good choice : )
@verbal cairn https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07ZHZL2JB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1 this one to be exact
good choice
i'd want basically the same card but with 2x hdmi and 2x display port
do you really use this much displays 😮
Got 2 displays it’s fine 🙂
@shrewd zenith if you haven't already ordered the 1660, this RX580 is on sale for slightly less, but the same performsnce. It has a decently slower clock speed but 2 more GB of V-RAM and it roughly adds up to the same performance. https://www.amazon.ca/XFX-RX-580P8DFD6-Radeon-1386MHz-Graphics/dp/B06Y66K3XD/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=xfx+rx580&qid=1582490872&sprefix=xfx+rx58&sr=8-2
Just slightly cheaper
@brittle rover The 1650 Super / 1660 is slightly faster then the RX580. However the 1660 Super is 300 CAD and is a fair bit faster then the RX580
Ah ok thanks the advice. I'm actually building a PC soon any ideas for a card comparable to the xfx rx570 8Gb model?
@wicked hound
Not really. So long as the 570 is about $110 USD then it is worth it. If it's closer to $140 USD (which some are) you should probably just get a $160 1650 Super
If you go used you get get a RX580 for about $100
@brittle rover I recommend spending the extra $50 to get an rtx 2060
You can get one for $290
Us dollers*
for gamers, it's just about the king of graphics cards
so that is best for gaming
but if you have every dollar in the world and need maximum performance, the titan RTX will be even better
otherwise, just go with 2080ti
that i can't help with
ask around and read reviews, some cards are better than others
IF we are talking the bog standard 2080ti's then there is not any real difference between the different brands
at that end of the scale, one 2 slot wide card vs another 2 slot wide is basically equal
if you are comparing cards with differences aside from that? then you have to list models and read reviews :)
@fossil falcon does that answer it for you?
Yes
ya only differences may be a couple degrees and maybe an fps or two
yeah
@fossil falcon if you want THE fastest card, the 2080ti lighting is the fastest, but it is WAY more expensive than any others and isn't really worth the extra money. The most popular option would be the founders addition.
some few cards might have bad thermals but by and large most are almost identical
ok
@brittle rover Kingpin is what I'd say
because I mean it's built for LN2 OCing, including binned for it too
rtx 2080ti yes im now broke yes
Yo 1660 TI is good for it’s buck right
1660 Super would be better for the price
Didn’t know that’s a thing. You know how much more it is?
its cheaper but only like 5-8% slower
shiny
bruh
Would you guys say that a msi geforce rtx 2060 6GB graphics card is good?
@gilded kernel it is a solid card at its intended pricepoint
@wet temple you know you like it
So if anyone asks yes you can use a ek backplate without the waterblock on evga cards
im looking for a new gpu its my main bottle neck i have a msi armor 2
What’s your cpu?
it’s a gpu cooler model, doesn’t tell what gpu it is
like strix, founders edition, or amp
Yeah that’s what I thought
@fallen schooner Have you decided on gpu yet?
If not, I honestly can recommend the 5700 XT. The one I got is doing really well, bouta run benchmarks with an without OC
But no overclocking, I got an average 250 fps csgo so its pretty dang good(max everything, AA 8x)
lol csgo.
Lul
Well stupid unigine keeps saying it cant run because msvcp100.dll isnt installed
Gotta install one of those visual studio code packages
Usually software will install it for you
Try this
Thanks lol
Wait at 1080p you get 250 fps on low settings?
No max
1080p gang
Yes
What gpu would you recommend for ultra 1440p
If that's even possible on a somewhat moderate budget
I'm looking at getting the 5700xt, but Im more concerned about the driver issues than anything else
the driver issues arent really an issue anymore
what fps @karmic solar
But there are always driver issues that happens
I have a 144hz monitor, but I'm fine if it's below that
As long as it doesnt drop too low
I would say minimum of 80
Do you plan on streaming as well?
No
do you guys know any cheap rtx 2070 super gpus ?
Uh
FE
Generally that will be your cheapest
Just search by 2070s nvidia
It'll be the black green and white one
Wait no
That's a different company
The cheapest i found was this one: https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_559&item_id=140297
anyone know the best way to see if a corsair water block will fit a gpu?
Imagine using an rtx 2080 to play 360p
10 years it will happen 😛
Pff
How about a titan
For 144p
@lament widget do you mean for a custom loop?
I'm pretty sure Corsair states which gpu each one will fit on
As each one needs to be different in order to get full coverage
Help me I put a new video card in my Lenovo thincebtre M58E pc nvidia quadro fx380 I don’t now what nex I don have signal on the screen on both outputs vga an dvi?
And the fan working hard
I don’t now only y need a hdmi output
Where I can check the compability
So what cpu is your
@unkempt stratus ryzen 5 3600
@karmic solar yes for a custom loop. i looked all over to see what cards the blocks covered and couldn't find anything
Is it the hydro x series or what?
Anyone recommend the best graphics card I should get for 400 bucks?
you could probably find a 2070 for 400
Oh ok thanks I was on the fence between a 2070 or a 5700 Xt
At that price range I'd rather nvidia but it's your choice
Yeah I’ve heard Nvidia is the way to go
so my new to me XFX 460 is having what i call freakouts during games i might want to upgrade would an AMD RX 570 be good?
some people have had issues with amd's drivers and the 5700xt getting toasty
huh well i have redownloaded the drivers and it didnt help
570 is a decent upgrade
ok
I'm upgrading from an r9 280x windforce to an evga 1660 super
is the only difference between xc ultra and sc ultra noise and cooling?
if so is it significant
@cunning falcon maybe a minor difference in clock speed, but yeah cooling mainly
@lone pond I've found the RX 570 to be a very good card for the money
@faint bridge MAX/ULTRA settings @ 1080p?
Depends on game and desired fps
Any white 2080s?
i think theres an asus one
I'm going for a white + purple look on my build
With obviously a touch of black with the Case etc
i love this one
and u can set the leds to purple

@shrewd zenith depends on the game
I use vsync in destiny 2, so it's locked at 60
unlocked it's in the 100-110 range a lot of the time
that's paired with a R5 1600 AF btw
Black Desert Online can run the "remastered" mode in the 40s which i find to be quite playable, if i switch to very high it goes into the 50s
I mean it's not like you buy a $145 graphics card expecting the same performance as if I had spent $500 or $1000, everything I play had acceptable framerates at high/ultra
@granite juniper worth extra $10?
I would say it depends on the differnce. 50 mhz? probably not 200 mhz? maybe
i guess it would depend if you could get more bang for your $10 elsewhere in the system
depends if u value the noise/cooling at $10 or more
personally I would, but I run everything at the lowest fan curve I can on my gpu, still get 2ghz with under 40% speed under load on my strix 1070 ti
hm
So, my 960 is on its last legs, and I'm looking to upgrade. I wont be able to afford anything more that a 1660 Super, but I'm not sure I wanna spend that much. Should I go with the 1660, 1660 Super, or maybe go for either an Rx 590, or the 5500xt since I have a monitor that supports freesync?
A ti is definitely out of my budget
Even a Super would be cutting it pretty close honestly
Yeah
Oh. Yeah I may be able to afford that then
I might. I'll look into it
Ah I wish I had enough for that
I want it
@cunning falcon you dont want a refurb product
the warranty is like 30 days
and who knows what refurbs have been through
so midweek madness is bad?
yeah
1 year is nothing
my evga card has 3 years
@cunning falcon what are you looking for?
for the gpu?
yeah
220-240
if i can find a 1660super next week i’m gonna have to get it
budget is a struggle rn and i don’t want my part return policy to expire
i need to save as much as i can
@lone pond
yeah
228 is the cheapest 1660 super rn
itsthe evga sc ultra gaming
@cunning falcon
or you can do the 1660 ti for 268
if the 1660super goes on sale next week, i’ll have no choice but to buy it
asus tuf 1660 super then
In your budget
230 amazon
asus tuf has an ass heatsink
i don’t want asus either
shadowhammer smh
@verbal cairn that’s what i was thinking
You got a few options, sub-240
ik
i mea nthese cards arent power hungry
1660super probably my best shot
the heatsink wont matter too much
at that price range yes
its not like the 2080 ti at 300 watts
i’ve heard how the tuf is similar to the thicc iii of the 5700xt
Reason: Bad word usage
the gigabyte 1660 super is 240
i don’t want cooling to be trash
gigabyte has a terrible customer service
if i have a problem there’s no way i’m getting an easy rma process
i’ll be watching daily prices
praying that the 1660super goes for cheaper again or it’s on mid week madness
why not give evga a shot ?
he didnt want to do the rebate
evga is the way i’m going
i have an evga card
if i’m doing the rebate, i’m doing it from evga not newegg
just did a cool mod too
i’ll order off of evga if i’m buying
it’s usually cheaper anyways
aorus ultra and 2080ti
what else you got
a 3990x?
lmfao
3700x
not too bad'
i’m on a $600 budget lmfao
9900k is costly
it’s $450-480
lol i get you
on 600, 1660 SUPER is a good chice
i’ve been using a laptop for 3 years
i had a potato
first gen oof
yea my parts aren’t the best but for a budget i don’t think it’s terrible
itll be great
compared to a few years back
and are you geting an amd cpu?
like the 2700x or 2600
i think the 2700x is like 140 rn
@cunning falcon
@lone pond you really like subtlety flexing don't you?
That's cute
Subtle flex best flex
I can't wait to get my PC
And simulate playing at 30FPS 4k low settings to my friends while my PC is in the background with RGB popping off
I was thinking of getting a 2080ti
But it's not worth for me. Maybe if 3000 series comes out and they lower the price but as of RN id rather have 3700x 2080s @OC than 3600x 2080ti
@blissful sequoia 3600 2080ti is stronger
@cyan vault I need the extra cores for light CAD and light video editing
If I was purely doing gaming then sure
I've made 2 builds with the 2
2080ti
2080s
But I need to go from IPS to VA and no CPU cooler except for stock. Along with slower memory and Bios Update needed
Or spend 14 dollars and get 3600 cl16 @granite juniper @blissful sequoia
you can get that stuff to better than that
No, you cant go from 3000 to 3600 with only going up to cl16
It doesnt even say the timings
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these both show it at 3600cl16 stable easily
Not everyone wants to do that, and spending 14 whole dollars isnt gonna break the bank
Especially at that budget
:/ it takes all of 1 minute to do
Well, the g skill looks better
And again, just because it works on that kit doesnt mean it works on all(some are better than other, I mean they could get unlucky)
https://i.redd.it/4pmv87u669z21.png if you can get the 2400mhz kit at 3733cl16 i think the 3000mhz should be fine
Overclocking tests are rarely done for more than a week, so it could for a couple days very well and then not
They just try it once, and then bam upload
Not under constant use necessarily
A little late, but there's no guarantee that the ram kit you buy can even go up another mhz
Save a bit of money, but you could end up with what you pay for
This has been looked into by Actually Hardcore Overlocking/De8auer (dont remember who). E die does work quite well
@blissful sequoia switched out the PSU for a better PSU and added a better CPU Cooler as stock 3600 cooler is kinda loud. As a note from Nuclear that RAM can OC to 3466/3600 CL16 quite easily. You can spend the extra $15 or so for RAM that is guaranteed 3600 CL16 tho if you want
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Where does a before gt 635 stand to a rx 480
@wicked hound ik the PSU wasn't all that great. I only had it cuz it was white xD
What's the difference in performance really tho?
You have a PSU shroud, just put a piece of paper over the hole in it
Like, ik that 2080ti is like 10-20% faster than 2080s
But but from 3700x to 3600 won't that hurt the performance in CAD heavily?
If talking about the CM at least, the Phanteks has a black PSU shroud so no point in worrying over white PSU
as for CAD, idk
will take an okay hit probably, but I assume you're mostly gaming due to the 2080Ti
Ik going from 8c to 6c is kinda big deal
Is this about graphics cards or power supplies?
As for the PSU, just cleaner power and theoretical longer lifespan, easier to recover from a 12v rail failing due to multiple 12v rails on the Whisper
GPUs
Also quieter iirc
But PSUs got mixed up xD @dawn elbow
I understand just trying to find out some info for a friend about GPU's so when the chat started going I was checking see if anyone responded to my question lol
could also get the EVGA black (much better in cooling and noise) and paint the shroud white
Hahaha that's too much work
@dawn elbow a gt 465 is pretty slow compared to a RX480. Probs over a factor of 10
Ok he has a gt 635 so and I have a rx480 that is not being used since I upgraded to the gtx 1660 super ty hei I will be switching his gpu out to the 480
What's a good graphics card to match my 3800x?
probably higher end like 2070s and up depends on budget
Is it probably worth waiting until this summer for an upgrade?
3000 series and amd big gpu
meh amd doesn't have much in the high end for gpu's
I'd opt for a nvidia gpu rather than something like a 5700xt or a radeon VII
meh the 5700xt is controversial
Then again. Do you care about features. I personally would rather have Nvidia since I use GeForce to record etc.
true nvidia gpus are the way to go if you are recording or streaming
Well, I have a few upperclassmen that have 5700XTs and they are extremely happy with price to performance at 1080p
That's why I mentioned it
i need info for maxsun terminator RTX 2060
Are amd gpu fans suppost to not spin at first
I'm not sure about amd specific, but it isn't abnormal for the gpu fans to not always spin while not under load. Once there is a load they should definitely be spinning
K thanks
We need RT 2030 for low end system so it can ray trace at least 60fps 720p
720p?
I don't think that's on anyone's bucket list
Also if u r using a theoretical 2030 you'd be playing at what
High settings 720p rtx
That seems unrealistic.
I don't think rtx is that big of a deal
Specially on low res
I use 1080p but some people are gaming on 720p
I don't think people gaming at 720p will appreciate the detail that rtx brings to the table
not even 1660 has rtx
@cerulean rover
Alright so if I was to get 2 1080 ti’s which would y’all recommend?
No no no
It depends on the market
And the blower ones average 400
Good, rgb ones average 500-600 depending on local market
Cool. I’ve got 1.5k for the cards so what 1080’s have the best rgb?
Then just get a 2080ti?!
But you dont need 2
Im trying to help..... 2 1080tis will be worse than one 2080ti, and not have rtx
Ok that’s cool and all but 2080 ti doesn’t sound like 1080 ti
I dont know why you need 2 1080ti but the founders edition is the best version of that card with rgb lights on the side that you can see through your case.
I’m just saying I don’t want 2080’s
Wdym it doesnt sound like it?
@rigid crag thanks dude I’ll cop a few
.....ok
Im telling you, its better to get a single 2080 TI
It is better to get a 2080ti tho
Yeah well, its still a waste
That’s exactly what I’m saying. It’s a flex machine not mainly performance
It's your money so if you want to spend it like that you obviously have different priorities then us :)
Well thats just dumb.....
Exactly
Go ahead and waste money, I was just trying to help and you started being rude so
Plus a single 2080ti has more rgb
Like what then
Like I said, go ahead and waste money
Stupid, Just stupid
Nope, stupid for wasting money on them
Well, at least make sure you get an nvlink adapter instead of an sli
Kidding
The 1080ti doesnt support that, guess what does?
2080ti
I know you want 2 cards and all, but the 20 series has some seriously cool aib cards as well
This one is hot
Which graphics cards can go sli
pretty much all, but not all can use nvlink
@maiden sun i am curious, what games do you play that benefit from SLI?
and of those 3000, about 2800 of them have no benefit from sli.
not when compared to the 3000 that you mentioned.
I wouldn’t personally do SLI, just rather save up for a better graphics card
cool
You’ll see a bigger boost if you just buy one better graphics card than to do sli
SLI is one of those techs that seemed like a good idea at the time, but its era has mostly passed.
hey so if i was between the 2060 s and the 2070 s which one would yall recommend
@maiden sun flex machine? Get a 2080Ti, then a fake/dead PCB and a 2080Ti cooler. Almost never will SLI be better then one card. Even in workstation workloads as they don't like SLI, just simply multi GPU.
Also 200/3000 is 6.67%. That is a pretty low %. Not only that but that is probably the max %. Then you have the games that lose perf on SLI due to poor implementation. Then the ones that just don't do anything
can you guys help me? so i got one of my monitors plugged into my gpu and one plugged into my motherboard and 1 isn't turning on
whats your cpu @brisk thorn ?
both need to be in the gpu
cpu might not have on board graphics
that and should always plug into a gpu if available
even if it does both outputs need to be through gpu
mhm
Issue was resolved in #building-and-recc-chat
yall think the 1660 super is a good enough upgrade over rx480?
It would only be worth it if your trying to push more than 1080p, otherwise, the increase in fps isn't worth the cost
i think the rx 480 is fine for 1080p 60fps still
it definitely is
just a lil' bit more powerful than a gtx 1060 (laptop mobile max-q)
but very soon they'll begin to struggle
i need help
@solar pasture with what? sorry for the late response
no its all okay. im just tryna find if a store by me carries a for 6pin to 8pin adapter
ya as long as your psu can handle it should be fine
was gonna get a 600w
Anyone know what waterblock is compatible with Sapphire Pulse 5700?
4v4 nae dm
rx 590 black seems faster even though MUCH older than a 1660 super and yes, i know I have ddr5 8 gigs over ddr6 6 gigs but it seems like the rx 590 black may be a better choice for my AMD FX-8350 CPU Machine with 2x8 gigs of DDR3 ram
Rtx 2060 super or 2070
Zotac GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Video Card
is that a good GPU?
compared to the 1660 super
Or should I put in the 2060 super
@pine badge budget
1k
Will you be streaming ?
no just gaming
For around 400 you can get a 2060 SUPER or 5700 XT
yeah
But remember that 5700 XT means better performance, 2060 SUPER is good performance and has a streaming encoder
what makes 2060S different from 2060
like I know its better performance but what exacly changes
I'll go with the 5700 XT in that case
2060 super is significantly better than 2060
And 5700 XT is significantly better than 2060 super
5700 XT sometimes has driver problems though. AMD’s current driver situation lets say is debatable
You might want to wait a few days to see if anything is improved
This might help
ah ok
so 5700 XT is the best bang for your buck but it has diver problems
yeah
will the driver problems make it unusable
not really but it may interfere with a few things depending on what you doing
oh
oh and please enter my givaway its a MR whis the boss thing
but I mean im not going to buy this PC for a while. Im just coming up with the parts list
1k
@topaz anchor for your giveaway #links-and-selfpromotion
@pine badge hardware prices fluctuate and change a lot
Yeah- its roughly 1,000-1,100
oh and dint worry about paying for windows
Z.LORD-_-, this command is disabled in this channel
Windows is free
right
Haha





