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livid girder Nov 27, 2019, 3:47 AM

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thank you FeelsNeatMan

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I can't with spiders

grave valley Nov 27, 2019, 3:47 AM

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I'll keep my nightmare fuel to myself

livid girder Nov 27, 2019, 3:47 AM

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peepoChrist

grave valley Nov 27, 2019, 3:48 AM

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I should have killed it instead of trying to get a pic

livid girder Nov 27, 2019, 3:48 AM

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why did you lose it

grave valley Nov 27, 2019, 3:48 AM

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Yeah

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It ran off

livid girder Nov 27, 2019, 3:48 AM

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time to evacuate your house

grave valley Nov 27, 2019, 3:48 AM

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I know the direction it's in though

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No no

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We have totally legal pesticides

livid girder Nov 27, 2019, 3:49 AM

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peepoSusp

grave valley Nov 27, 2019, 3:49 AM

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I'm gonna just make a nice little circle around my bed

livid girder Nov 27, 2019, 3:49 AM

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this isn't graphics card talk

grave valley Nov 27, 2019, 3:49 AM

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Tru

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Sorry

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I didn't realize I was not in general

livid girder Nov 27, 2019, 3:50 AM

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I'm not trying to minimod lets go to gen

grave valley Nov 27, 2019, 3:50 AM

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Oh boy

woeful loom Nov 28, 2019, 1:33 PM

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Would a 5700 be enough to run 144 hz 1440P.

wraith pasture Nov 28, 2019, 1:34 PM

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depends on the game @woeful loom

woeful loom Nov 28, 2019, 1:36 PM

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I figured as my current 1050ti was able to run 144z 1080p in some games. But now it isn’t running 144hz in anything

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📎 image0.jpg

wraith pasture Nov 28, 2019, 1:49 PM

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yikes

woeful loom Nov 28, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Yea

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So I figure upgrade gpu and display at the same time

grave valley Nov 28, 2019, 1:51 PM

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ooof

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Speaking of 1050 Ti s

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Does anyone know a good marketplace to offload a mini?

woeful loom Nov 28, 2019, 1:53 PM

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Nope. Mines a 2 fan msi one. I don’t know where to sell it either

grave valley Nov 28, 2019, 1:53 PM

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lolz

woeful loom Nov 28, 2019, 1:53 PM

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I’m probably going to give it to a friend who has a 660ti

grave valley Nov 28, 2019, 1:54 PM

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yea

woeful loom Nov 28, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Or my friend on Intel graphics

grave valley Nov 28, 2019, 1:54 PM

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I have a friend who could use it

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same

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my friend is on intel rn

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He has a ton of weird system optimization tools his brother installed

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Some kind of "ram clearer" and a defragger that I think might randomly generate it's readouts

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anywho

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byeya

worldly crow Nov 28, 2019, 3:10 PM

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ram clear lol

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tell him to get the razer app

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it lowers memory usage and everything for boosting your gaming speeds

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i just use the free defragger and it works just fine

livid girder Nov 28, 2019, 3:13 PM

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the synapse?

worldly crow Nov 28, 2019, 3:28 PM

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yep

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frees up my memory everytime i go to play a game

fading spade Nov 28, 2019, 5:59 PM

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So you guys would reccomend a 5700 xt over a 2060 super? I am pretty sure I have a 650 watt power supply I am just worried I am going to be short for the power supply.

frank fox Nov 28, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Hello. Trying to buy a RX 590 and wondering which brand is recommended, thanks!

livid girder Nov 28, 2019, 8:29 PM

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sapphire

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and @fading spade depends what cpu

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650 should be enough though

fading spade Nov 28, 2019, 8:30 PM

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2600x

livid girder Nov 28, 2019, 8:30 PM

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yes a 650 psu is fine

fading spade Nov 28, 2019, 8:30 PM

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cool, looking forward to my purchase soon haha!

livid girder Nov 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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nice

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which one are you buying

fading spade Nov 28, 2019, 8:32 PM

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5700 xt, because of the reassurance with the psu, and I do not need ray tracing.

livid girder Nov 28, 2019, 8:34 PM

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no I mean which model and brand lol

fading spade Nov 28, 2019, 8:39 PM

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oh, lmao

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I was thinking the https://www.newegg.com/asus-radeon-rx-5700-xt-rog-strix-rx5700xt-o8g-gaming/p/N82E16814126344?Item=N82E16814126344

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probs not my final decision though but I know asus/rog

livid girder Nov 28, 2019, 8:41 PM

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the best ones are the red devil

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and the nitro plus

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nothing wrong with the strix though

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still solid

fading spade Nov 28, 2019, 8:41 PM

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i am still looking for them black friday deals haha

livid girder Nov 28, 2019, 8:42 PM

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yep

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so am I

fading spade Nov 28, 2019, 8:44 PM

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So this?

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https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-xt-axrx-5700xt-8gbd6-3dhe-oc/p/N82E16814131752?item=N82E16814131752

livid girder Nov 28, 2019, 8:47 PM

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yes

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peepoclap

fading spade Nov 28, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Why thank you I am here once a week. Hahaha

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I mean it does have that extra 20% off

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Well 20 dollars*

lone pond Nov 28, 2019, 10:41 PM

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guys what is a good motherboard for 2070 super and an i7 9700k?

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please help

wraith pasture Nov 29, 2019, 1:24 AM

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can't go wrong with asus strix z390 series boards @lone pond

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the version will depend if you want wifi built in

lone pond Nov 29, 2019, 1:46 AM

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arigato @wraith pasture

lone pond Nov 29, 2019, 2:46 AM

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"Is the premium of $100-200 max over an $1100 card worth it to get faster, more consistent gameplay at a far quieter noise profile with a power limit of 373W vs 338 , possibly 280W worth it? " - value is hard to evaluate so precisisely when someone is intersting in buying a $1000 brick that's good at doing matrix math to make pretty pixels haha

The kingpin tho - this writeup by TiN alone would be justification enough for me, I really appreciate that kind of bonus.
https://xdevs.com/guide/2080ti_kpe/

xDevs.com | EVGA RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN Edition Technical Guide

Corks and features of EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Kingpin Edition graphics card.

livid girder Nov 29, 2019, 2:47 AM

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interesting

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I mean

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not like I can afford it to try it out and give an opinion so

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peepoShrug

lone pond Nov 29, 2019, 2:49 AM

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That's part of why I buy nearly decade old enterprise hardware that probably cost 20-30k new- super high end stuff can have all kinds of intricate features etc - basically sold a few $ /lb in 2019 though

livid girder Nov 29, 2019, 2:51 AM

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cool

novel shoal Nov 29, 2019, 3:10 AM

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I've never bought an Asus card (I love their mobo's tho), but I'm really thinking of getting the 2070 S they have on sale. Anyone think gpu deals will continue in the next 6 mos?

livid girder Nov 29, 2019, 3:19 AM

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might be worth waiting for cyber monday

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moar deals

novel shoal Nov 29, 2019, 3:21 AM

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i wanted to get a bunch of stuff for a new build, but psu's aren't really on sale that i've noticed. 9700k is priced nicely, but mobo's don't seem to be heavily discounted. ram is pretty cheap and I might bite the bullet and buy this full tower rosewill that's on sale

lone pond Nov 29, 2019, 3:34 AM

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z390 aorus master is $250 , good deal if you want OC friendly features on top of a solid power delivery platform. If you're interested in modding, pick up a M IX Apex z270 and search win-raid for coffee mod and drop any 8th/9th gen in. Said board is $<100 ebay.

novel shoal Nov 29, 2019, 3:42 AM

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for all of my builds, I'm guessing 5 I think I stick to Asus boards lol idk why, but that's my only major loyalty. last board I got was a maximus viii ranger. which was probably overkill since I don't overclock or anything. I do like the option though and have no interest in builtin wifi. hopefully this isn't too rambly.

lone pond Nov 29, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Stick with asus (due to your expressed preference ) - people who preach gigabyte's z390 because of superior vrm hardware are 99% of the time just parroting buildzoid. By the time you OC hard enough to care about the difference between a z390 code and a z390 aorus ultra hardware to hardware - you'll likely have a board collection haha.

novel shoal Nov 29, 2019, 3:48 AM

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lol ya . do u have a link for the M IX? That's asus right?

lone pond Nov 29, 2019, 3:50 AM

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M9A is a z270 board, best bets are ebay and amazon marketplace.

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I'd search "ix apex" - just read up and understand the risks/voided warranties et all - much more of a a hobby project vs a practical savings strategy for most.

mellow sable Nov 29, 2019, 5:01 AM

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how often does newegg restock items specifically gpus

gray vapor Nov 29, 2019, 6:38 AM

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Could be a day could be a week also could be a month

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or could be never again if said company only made a limited amount

lone pond Nov 29, 2019, 6:39 AM

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https://www.microcenter.com/product/609977/evga-xc-ultra-gaming-geforce-rtx-2080-super-overclocked-dual-fan-8gb-gddr6-pcie-video-card

Micro Center

EVGA XC Ultra Gaming GeForce RTX 2080 Super - Micro Center

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Is this good

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Pre oc

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https://www.microcenter.com/product/601359/evga-black-gaming-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-dual-fan-11gb-gddr6-pcie-video-card

Micro Center

EVGA Black Gaming GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - Micro Center

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Or would u recommend a ti

gray vapor Nov 29, 2019, 6:41 AM

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Id go with EVGA over any other

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Also i would go for the Super

lone pond Nov 29, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Ok

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And pre oc is good?

gray vapor Nov 29, 2019, 6:49 AM

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well it is not bad if you are asking

zinc vale Nov 29, 2019, 6:50 AM

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i like the look of the asus strix cards

gray vapor Nov 29, 2019, 6:54 AM

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performance over looks

zinc vale Nov 29, 2019, 6:54 AM

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well yea

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my 1070 strix preforms great

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thanks to the 3 fans

gray vapor Nov 29, 2019, 7:05 AM

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ya but a 2080 with 2 fans from EVGA would perform great as well

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my 1660 is from EVGA has a single fan on idle i get 28c and when gaming max it goes to is 60c

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if it was a dual fan instead could be like 50-55c instead on load

lone pond Nov 29, 2019, 7:07 AM

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More fans better, got it

gray vapor Nov 29, 2019, 7:07 AM

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Pretty sure i have seen 1650 Supers getting a max of 50c on load

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and the one's we have are mainly dual fans

hard arrow Nov 30, 2019, 12:15 AM

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what are the best 2080ti's

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?

wraith pasture Nov 30, 2019, 12:16 AM

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like... performance without regarding price?

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evga kingpin

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it's 1799.99 tho

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LOLOL

lone pond Nov 30, 2019, 12:33 AM

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Kingpin for overclock, RTX titan for maybe better performance if both stock,

Realistically, go strix (OC MODEL, not the base strix) - FTW3, or MSI gaming trio

cedar creek Nov 30, 2019, 12:40 AM

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Ok what's the purpose of sli

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What does sli even do?

dense flicker Nov 30, 2019, 12:41 AM

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well primarily its a gargantuan flex

cedar creek Nov 30, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Lmao

dense flicker Nov 30, 2019, 12:42 AM

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secondly, it increases graphics performance

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dog_Laugh

cedar creek Nov 30, 2019, 12:42 AM

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By how much

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Does it actually double

wraith pasture Nov 30, 2019, 12:42 AM

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depends

dense flicker Nov 30, 2019, 12:42 AM

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not entirely sure how it works, i just wanted to make that joke lol

wraith pasture Nov 30, 2019, 12:42 AM

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the game/application has to support sli

dense flicker Nov 30, 2019, 12:42 AM

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its uselss for gaming

cedar creek Nov 30, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Lol

wraith pasture Nov 30, 2019, 12:42 AM

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otherwise if it isnt supported, no real performance gain

cedar creek Nov 30, 2019, 12:42 AM

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So what type of gain can it make?

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Just curious I'm never going to do that lmao

wraith pasture Nov 30, 2019, 12:43 AM

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depends on the game and application

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10-40% is typical

cedar creek Nov 30, 2019, 12:43 AM

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So wow

wraith pasture Nov 30, 2019, 12:43 AM

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so yes like zack says

cedar creek Nov 30, 2019, 12:43 AM

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That's like here let's burn my money basically

wraith pasture Nov 30, 2019, 12:43 AM

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its a major flex

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxc6cb3_y0w\

YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

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its a 6 year old video but still relavent

fallen schooner Nov 30, 2019, 12:45 AM

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like putting a super charger on an already turbo-charge car.

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bragging rights.

granite juniper Nov 30, 2019, 1:03 AM

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i mean in rendering sli is very helpful

wraith pasture Nov 30, 2019, 1:04 AM

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yes

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more compute power

granite juniper Nov 30, 2019, 1:07 AM

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here's a good guide for different app and how sli works for performance (this is just on blender, go to benchmarks and pick whatever u want) https://www.cgdirector.com/cinebench-r20-scores-updated-results/

CG Director

Alex from CGDirector

Cinebench R20 Scores (Updated Results)

Regularly updated Cinebench R20 Scores List, sortable by multi-core and single-core score with in-depth info on CPU rankings.

lone pond Nov 30, 2019, 1:32 AM

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https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/hpc/2-x-RTX2070-Super-with-NVLINK-TensorFlow-Performance-Comparison-1551/

Puget Systems

2 x RTX2070 Super with NVLINK TensorFlow Performance Comparison

This is a short post showing a performance comparison with the RTX2070 Super and several GPU configurations from recent testing. The comparison is with TensorFlow running a ResNet-50 and Big-LSTM benchmark.

random prairie Nov 30, 2019, 2:41 AM

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Anybody know how the 5700 XT phantom gaming D is?

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Relative to the red devil specifically

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Or when the red devil will be back in stock pretty much anywhere

long phoenix Nov 30, 2019, 2:58 AM

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@random prairie no clue but the nitro+ is really good as well

random prairie Nov 30, 2019, 2:58 AM

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Thank you, honestly all I needed to know lol

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Oh it’s a bit pricey, sorry to be a nag but do u know if anything under $440 thats that solid? I’ve heard the gigabyte one is pretty good

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U know what, I’ll just get that, it’s $400

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Although

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Even though it’s a pretty meh model, the asrock challenger is below launch price rn

livid girder Nov 30, 2019, 3:04 AM

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If I were you I'd wait

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don't grab something you don't want cause it's not available

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you'll be happier if you do wait

random prairie Nov 30, 2019, 3:06 AM

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That’s a good point but it’s such a minimal difference and I could save $60 by getting a different model

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I’m also thinking of watercooling so it doesn’t really matter what cooler I get as long as the pcb is compatible

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Actually I don’t think this one is

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Wait do any of the custom models have blocks?

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Well, compatible blocks that is

gray vapor Nov 30, 2019, 3:19 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/EKWB-Liquid-Cooling/BrandStore/ID-145823

lone pond Nov 30, 2019, 4:54 AM

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EK should make a comcast skin kit

novel shoal Nov 30, 2019, 5:43 AM

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So, I'm worried when the next group of gpus come out, the current cards are gonna either drop major in price or be surpassed in performance by quite a bit. If I currently have a 7850 should I just get a decent sub $200 card for now? Seems like ray tracing might be still too fresh

hoary blade Nov 30, 2019, 7:48 AM

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2000 series has higher msrps than supers

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thinking_suicide

novel shoal Nov 30, 2019, 7:51 AM

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msrp is a suggested price doesn't mean it should be the price

hoary blade Nov 30, 2019, 7:57 AM

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but they usually corellate

novel shoal Nov 30, 2019, 7:57 AM

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did you get a non super or thinking of getting a super?

hoary blade Nov 30, 2019, 7:59 AM

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nah, got rog 2080 super

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just bought it today(yeaterday) actually

novel shoal Nov 30, 2019, 8:00 AM

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oh guess I'm confused by your contempltaing suicide emote then

hoary blade Nov 30, 2019, 8:01 AM

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was looking at nvidia website and accidentally stumbled on their msrps

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but asus rog 2080 costs actually more than super

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so yeah

novel shoal Nov 30, 2019, 8:04 AM

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I can only imagine they're hopnig someone will just love to pay that premium 🙂

dim rivet Nov 30, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Does anyone have a good deal on a graphics card up to $120? It can be used. Building my first pc and I'm on a budget

novel shoal Nov 30, 2019, 8:52 PM

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So, I'm worried when the next group of gpus come out, the current cards are gonna either drop major in price or be surpassed in performance by quite a bit. If I currently have a 7850 should I just get a decent sub $200 card for now? Seems like ray tracing might be still too fresh--would I be better off getting a 1650 Super?

livid girder Nov 30, 2019, 8:52 PM

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depends what kind of games you're playing

novel shoal Nov 30, 2019, 8:53 PM

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only game i'm intersted in playing that I know will have an issue with my current set up is cyberpunk

livid girder Nov 30, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Oh yeah

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you want a sub 200 card?

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maybe a normal 1660

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or rx590

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but idk if it'll be the best cyberpunk experience

novel shoal Nov 30, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Idk if this site is right (game debate) but they're saying recommended is 1070 and min is 380. or 960

fleet forge Nov 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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what cpu is best to pair with an rx 5700xt ryzen 7 or intel i7

sharp trellis Nov 30, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Does anyone know why device Manger doesn't update to very latest Nivida drivers. I updated my Nvidia drivers on GTX 1050 4GB verison 430.86 and it is only latest updated in device Manger, but Nvidia website has 441.41 for 1050. Why not device manager update to 441.41?

wraith pasture Nov 30, 2019, 10:58 PM

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have you uninstalled the nvidia drivers and then install the drivers from the nvidia download page?

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make sure you tick "clean install" during that process as well

sharp trellis Nov 30, 2019, 10:59 PM

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Done. I just wonder why device manager doesn't scan and get 441.41 to update.

wraith pasture Nov 30, 2019, 11:01 PM

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windows likes to install the most stable version to their knowledge first

sharp trellis Nov 30, 2019, 11:02 PM

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I see, thanks.

runic trail Dec 1, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Which is the best one?:

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6h66Mp

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QXkgXL

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Or

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cqfhP6

livid girder Dec 1, 2019, 2:12 AM

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the sapphire

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they make some of the best amd cards

runic trail Dec 1, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Okay thanks!

runic trail Dec 1, 2019, 5:59 AM

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@livid girder https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MsWfrH that one has 5 star reviews, is that one okay?

gray vapor Dec 1, 2019, 6:41 AM

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You do know when visiting the store sites they show the real score such as the 3 and 4 star reviews

runic trail Dec 1, 2019, 6:43 AM

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never mind then 😂

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Would a RX 570 4GB bottleneck a 2700X? @gray vapor

gray vapor Dec 1, 2019, 6:51 AM

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Just go for the 1650 Super

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There are people that has compared the 1650 Super to a 8gb 580 and the 1650S performs just as good or better than the 580

runic trail Dec 1, 2019, 6:53 AM

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I'm talking about the 570 4GB

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Would it bottleneck?

gray vapor Dec 1, 2019, 6:54 AM

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not really buy why not go for better instead

runic trail Dec 1, 2019, 6:54 AM

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Because I already spent a lot on the CPU, mobo and ram

gray vapor Dec 1, 2019, 6:56 AM

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ok?

runic trail Dec 1, 2019, 6:56 AM

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And I don't want to spend an extra 40$

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When you say not really, does that mean slightly or no?

runic trail Dec 1, 2019, 7:25 AM

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?

novel shoal Dec 1, 2019, 7:34 AM

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When I build a new rig, I tend to spend much on the cpu, get a decent mobo and get an adequate vid card. I think I'm gonna pull the trigger ona 3800x with a asus b450 strix. Would i bottleneck my set up if I get a 1660?

cold stream Dec 1, 2019, 7:40 AM

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Maybe go for 1660S, that's a pretty dang good cpu

novel shoal Dec 1, 2019, 7:43 AM

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Ya, my last build was a 6700k with a 7850 to give you perspective. My current build is fine and I'm able to play the games I enjoy, but a friend wants to buy my current machine, so I figured I'd check out AMD...last time was the 955 phenom ii x4 black

runic trail Dec 1, 2019, 7:45 AM

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@cold stream Would the RX 570 4GB bottleneck a 2700X?

cold stream Dec 1, 2019, 7:45 AM

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Ok so like

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It's basically impossible to prevent absolutely any bottleneck

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but those parts sound like a pretty good pair

runic trail Dec 1, 2019, 7:46 AM

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Okay that's good

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I'm gonna stream CPU, is that fine?

cold stream Dec 1, 2019, 7:47 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryzCY2eOdKM

YouTube

TechteamGB

Ryzen 2700X & 2600X vs 8700K Streaming & Gaming

Want to know how well the new AMD Ryzen 2700X and 2600X CPUs perform while streaming and gaming? Want to see that compared with Intel's 8700K? Looks like you...

▶ Play video

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From this it seems like that would work, but you might have to lower the settings a little more than you'd like

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Also for consideration, if you get basically any nvidia graphics card there is NVENC encoding

runic trail Dec 1, 2019, 7:55 AM

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What is good about NVENC encoding?

cold stream Dec 1, 2019, 8:01 AM

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It is pretty good quality with a slight impact on performance

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So just depends on which part you want to spend more money, really

runic trail Dec 1, 2019, 8:05 AM

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If cyber Monday prices are good the I might get the 1650S but if they're really good, I'll get the 1660.

novel shoal Dec 1, 2019, 8:12 AM

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@cold stream do you know anything of nvme's? I know I'd have to take the discussion to another tab, just curious

cold stream Dec 1, 2019, 8:22 AM

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Faster than non-nvme, more expensive usually

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Non-volatile memory express

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PCI E slot ssds

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(or m.2 cuz that's an extension of PCI-E)

novel shoal Dec 1, 2019, 8:30 AM

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you think if i get a 3800x i should get an nvme or would I be fine with sata ssd?

hoary blade Dec 1, 2019, 8:34 AM

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your call

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you won't notice much difference unless you using them for work like 3d modelling and stuff imo

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but no cables make build look cleaner

novel shoal Dec 1, 2019, 8:37 AM

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hmm damn. Just tryin to decide if I can skate by a few months or so. maybe prices will drop in the summer even more even tho they're really not that expensive compared to normal ssds I don't think

cold stream Dec 1, 2019, 8:38 AM

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Oh crud any m.2 is nvme technically

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Hmm

novel shoal Dec 1, 2019, 9:40 AM

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anyone awake?

runic trail Dec 1, 2019, 11:04 AM

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Me

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@novel shoal

novel shoal Dec 1, 2019, 1:15 PM

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hey 🙂

fallen schooner Dec 1, 2019, 1:16 PM

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o/

novel shoal Dec 1, 2019, 1:29 PM

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dang it, i wanna disturb you

fallen schooner Dec 1, 2019, 1:39 PM

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rude

novel shoal Dec 1, 2019, 1:59 PM

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i didn't tho!

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I want to see if you're knowledgable on asus boards for amd

fallen schooner Dec 1, 2019, 2:34 PM

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rog strix

novel shoal Dec 1, 2019, 8:05 PM

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@fallen schooner would I have a huge issue using the b450 board (i was told by asus they'd give me a boot kit)

fallen schooner Dec 1, 2019, 8:06 PM

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with what CPU

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if ryzen 3k yeah you have to use the bootkit to update bios.

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but if they are willing to lend you the kit, I say no issues.

novel shoal Dec 1, 2019, 8:07 PM

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3800x

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ok, It's just there's a huge jump in price from this board to a decent 570 i think

fallen schooner Dec 1, 2019, 8:08 PM

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whatchu doing with the 3800x lol

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that's a big boi.

livid girder Dec 1, 2019, 8:10 PM

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the msi a pro is decent

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and cheap

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no rgb tho

gray vapor Dec 1, 2019, 8:10 PM

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@novel shoal are you using that board right now?

novel shoal Dec 1, 2019, 8:10 PM

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last cpu i got was the 6700k 3 years ago. I try to spend a bit on my cpu in hopes that it helps future proof. I wouldn't even upgrade now, but a friend is willing to buy my old system

gray vapor Dec 1, 2019, 8:13 PM

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If you are buying a B450 board and getting a Zen2 chip i would say it is best to go with the MSI Max series

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they're already updated for Zen2

jade trail Dec 1, 2019, 10:51 PM

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how can you determine if it's a graphics card causing your computer to crash
without stressing it and trying to force a crash?

woeful loom Dec 2, 2019, 1:00 AM

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If you are running a graphically intense task then it is likely. But other than stressing it and seeing if it will crash I don’t know how to check it @jade trail

jade trail Dec 2, 2019, 1:02 AM

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gotcha.
I dug around a bit and found it's something related to ntoskrnl
but when I followed that thread, all the tests came back fine
so
no clue why I'm crashing to a white snow/static screen
when I'm just browsing online
and not actually playing a game

woeful loom Dec 2, 2019, 1:04 AM

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Oh that’s odd. I’ve never had that happen before. I only had it happen when my cpu gpu and memory were loaded and it bsod errors while that was happening and I updated my drivers and it went away.

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Can you try to update your drivers or does it crash before you can get to Nvidia or AMD’s website. Or to your updater? @jade trail

lone pond Dec 2, 2019, 1:09 AM

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After a crash, check event viewer.

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In general, GPU/driver related issues are often solved with DDU to uninstall, then clean install with new/updated drivers.

jade trail Dec 2, 2019, 1:13 AM

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that's the one thing I haven't done
did a regular driver update without DDU first
then I did sfc /scannow via cmd and it came out clean
finally did windows memory diagnostic and it came out clean.

gonna go grab DDU now and see what happens.

woeful loom Dec 2, 2019, 1:13 AM

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@lone pond I was hoping you would show up and help with this issue as you are very knowledgeable. And can explain things very well. You have quite a way with words

jade trail Dec 2, 2019, 1:14 AM

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thing is
the crashes happened before I got the recent amd driver update
so I'm fairly certain it's not the newest driver

woeful loom Dec 2, 2019, 1:16 AM

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Maybe you will see a different result when you use ddu. I’ve had times when it wouldn’t let me update mine and wouldn’t give me an error or anything it just wouldn’t work. So someone told me to run ddu so I did and it’s worked well since

lone pond Dec 2, 2019, 1:36 AM

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sfc /scannow
and
dism /online /cleanup-image / (checkhealth,scanhealth,restorehealth) - if necessary fix a ton of problems.

This guide will explain it better than I can. Best to make a backup when posible
https://www.win-raid.com/t1350f38-Tip-for-Win-How-to-detect-and-repair-corrupted-system-files.html

[Tip for Win10] How to detect and repair corrupted system files

wispy crystal Dec 2, 2019, 6:08 AM

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Not sure wether to get the Vega 56 or 1660S rn, I really wanna replace my RX 570 for something a little more... more

worldly crow Dec 2, 2019, 4:28 PM

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1660\

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vega is old

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hmmm nvm

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looks like vega is a lil faster than the 1660 super

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https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=vega+56+vs+1660+super&view=detail&mid=94DAFF732093F7BF719794DAFF732093F7BF7197&FORM=VIRE

lone pond Dec 2, 2019, 4:50 PM

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vega for opencl, 1660 and up for everything else

fickle orchid Dec 2, 2019, 6:20 PM

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hello, I'm in the market for a new graphics card and I was hoping for a few suggestions. I'm looking to spend between $100 to $300. I am currently using AMD Radeon R9 on a MSI Z97 PC Mate motherboard. Does anyone have any suggestions?

fallen schooner Dec 2, 2019, 6:24 PM

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rx 570

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vape, that mobo he has will bottleneck that lol

cedar creek Dec 2, 2019, 6:25 PM

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ahh

fallen schooner Dec 2, 2019, 6:25 PM

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probably the 570 too

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just not as bad

cedar creek Dec 2, 2019, 6:26 PM

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i give up trying to help people. i dont know enough lol

fickle orchid Dec 2, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Thank you!

rich cedar Dec 2, 2019, 6:31 PM

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@fickle orchid 1-300 is quite a large range, do you have a brand preference?

fallen schooner Dec 2, 2019, 6:33 PM

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also how many watts is your PSU.

fickle orchid Dec 2, 2019, 6:36 PM

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240v

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and no I don't have a brand preference. I'm just looking for something that won't need to be replaced for a while. hence the large price range.

cedar creek Dec 2, 2019, 6:42 PM

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240 volts?

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your power supply on your pc is watts

wraith pasture Dec 2, 2019, 7:00 PM

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o boi

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we need watts

fallen schooner Dec 2, 2019, 7:00 PM

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😄

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going to guess 400-500w

lone pond Dec 2, 2019, 7:56 PM

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The board could have a 4790k in it, depending on game, you could get decent use out of all but a handful of GPUs on the market with that in ideal , best case - edge cases.

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PSU runs more happy on 240 🙂

cold stream Dec 2, 2019, 8:59 PM

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1660S bro

keen thunder Dec 2, 2019, 10:27 PM

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hello i was wondering what is the best grapics card for $300 or less

wraith pasture Dec 2, 2019, 10:30 PM

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@keen thunder https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5700-rx-5700-evoke-oc/p/N82E16814137467

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if you can find a rx 5700 non-XT for sale for under 300 its a good deal

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otherwise a 1660Ti will be ok, but 5700 on sale for $300 will be better

oblique idol Dec 3, 2019, 12:15 AM

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Is it usual to not have to update drivers in a pc when I had them installed for my previous card? I upgraded from a msi gtx 1660ti to a msi rtx 2070 super and did not have to update drivers. I checked and it even said the 2070 super and then played a game of ground war. Just curious. Thanks

runic trail Dec 3, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Would an RX 570 4GB be okay with a Ryzen 7 2700X?

dense flicker Dec 3, 2019, 1:43 AM

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id go for a 570 8gb

gray vapor Dec 3, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Id go for a 1650S

fallen schooner Dec 3, 2019, 1:45 AM

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id got for a 5700xt

runic trail Dec 3, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Why an 8GB?

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@dense flicker

fallen schooner Dec 3, 2019, 1:45 AM

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8 is abetter than 4..

gray vapor Dec 3, 2019, 1:45 AM

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he liked bigger numbers

runic trail Dec 3, 2019, 1:47 AM

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I'm asking why though

dense flicker Dec 3, 2019, 1:47 AM

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better performance

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clubpenguin_dance

runic trail Dec 3, 2019, 1:47 AM

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in which way?

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overall?

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gaming?

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workstation?

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desktop?

granite juniper Dec 3, 2019, 1:47 AM

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bigger frame buffer and more vram to help at higher graphics

runic trail Dec 3, 2019, 1:48 AM

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ahh 👌

granite juniper Dec 3, 2019, 1:48 AM

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makes it more futureproof too

runic trail Dec 3, 2019, 1:57 AM

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If I were to get the 1650S, I'd just get the 580 8GB

gray vapor Dec 3, 2019, 1:58 AM

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even though in most games the 1650S out performs the 8gb 580 lol

runic trail Dec 3, 2019, 1:59 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbqXMnCP8PU&t=38s

YouTube

NJ Tech

RX 580 Vs. GTX 1650 Super | 1080p and 1440p | New Games Benchmarks

RX 580 Vs. GTX 1650 Super | 1080p and 1440p | New Games Benchmarks In this Video I'll Show You Gaming Benchmarks of AMD RX 580 8GB Vs. Nvidia GTX 1650 Super ...

▶ Play video

gray vapor Dec 3, 2019, 2:04 AM

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ok and you can already see from ghost recon it is doing better

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Also when you watch video's that would show you the Vram the 580 would be using 1-2gb more Vram at the same settings

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Lets not forget the power difference as well cause with the 1650S the max for the average system would be using 350w

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and that is for the whole system so you could use something like a 400w-450w without problems

spice prawn Dec 3, 2019, 2:27 AM

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ahem. Vram usage does not matter. As long as you are not running out of vram. It is NOT on the card to look pretty. it is there to be used.

granite juniper Dec 3, 2019, 2:27 AM

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:l

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it does matter very much

spice prawn Dec 3, 2019, 2:28 AM

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read again :)

dense flicker Dec 3, 2019, 2:35 AM

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what

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'vram usage doesnt matter, but it does matter if youre running out of it'

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i think i get what youre saying but i also see how the wording can confuse other people

spice prawn Dec 3, 2019, 2:40 AM

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@dense flicker at least quote the full thing if you want to quote anything :)

granite juniper Dec 3, 2019, 2:41 AM

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yeah but like you also changed it to say the opposite :v

spice prawn Dec 3, 2019, 2:41 AM

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no. I only added the "not" part.

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you are free to ask the mods to dig in the history if you want @granite juniper

granite juniper Dec 3, 2019, 2:42 AM

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idc honestly

lone pond Dec 3, 2019, 2:52 AM

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Team green

fickle orchid Dec 3, 2019, 3:23 AM

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@fallen schooner sorry just got home from work psu 750w.

long phoenix Dec 3, 2019, 7:32 AM

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VRAM usage doesn't matter as long as you aren't running out. There's no point comparing the usage between cards for the same game if VRAM isn't an issue for either of them. You're just trying to create a new, irrelevant category for your favored card to win when you pick out details like that.

worldly crow Dec 3, 2019, 5:49 PM

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when you crank up the resolution and graphics vram does matter because the higher the graphics the more memory it will use. but it is always better to get higher vram i like using only half mine , when the cards start to fill there vram they run harder and hotter

long phoenix Dec 3, 2019, 7:31 PM

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USAGE doesn't matter if you still have enough to not crash.

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5GB vs 3GB out of 8GB is irrelevant

vernal spoke Dec 4, 2019, 12:28 AM

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my rx 580 is too powerful for my cpu and produces a 27% bottleneck. I'd like to downclock my gpu, but i'm not sure what i should set and to what values. Is it possible in wattman, and do any of you know what i should do?

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gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 12:28 AM

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and your CPU is what?

vernal spoke Dec 4, 2019, 12:29 AM

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AMD A10-7850K

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 12:29 AM

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ouch

echo kraken Dec 4, 2019, 2:05 AM

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I wouldn't downgrade in gpu. you'll lose more money on it than just buying a new cpu

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(unless it's still within return period)

livid girder Dec 4, 2019, 2:11 AM

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yeah you're better off upgrading cpu

vernal spoke Dec 4, 2019, 2:16 AM

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true. my grandpa helped me with the build and it had a 660 ti previously, which doesn't cause bottleneck problems. i'll have to ask him to mail it over for christmas while i save up for a stronger cpu

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 2:50 AM

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@livid girder If i recall that CPU is FM2+

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he would need a new board as well

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 2:54 AM

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I don't think the 660 ti is a cpu

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 2:54 AM

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I assume you don't see the A10 then

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 2:55 AM

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I do not

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This is not battleship

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 2:55 AM

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Well that is a A10-7850K

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Which is an APU which falls under CPU and GPU 😛

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 2:56 AM

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Oh, like the airplane

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the A10 warthog

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never knew there was one with the tail number 7850k

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why are we talking about that tho?

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 2:56 AM

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You're talking about it

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 2:57 AM

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I know

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its called a conversation

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so why are we talking about A10 warthogs

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its a 660 ti

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This is #graphics-cards

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 2:59 AM

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yes and the APU is considered both

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 3:00 AM

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An auxilary Power unit is what they use for planes on the ground for cabin and recon electricity

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What does that have to do with #graphics-cards?

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 3:01 AM

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Don't know but i think you need to go back to trolling school cause your trolling skills is weak

arctic bloom Dec 4, 2019, 3:01 AM

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Wack

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Do you think I would be better off getting a 980ti or just going for a 1070

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 3:03 AM

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^see this guy knows what gpus are

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you just kept on talking about planes

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I'd go 1070

arctic bloom Dec 4, 2019, 3:03 AM

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I do in fact know what a gpu is

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Ok

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 3:03 AM

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All depends on price and what your psu is

arctic bloom Dec 4, 2019, 3:04 AM

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I think I have a 550 w

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and preferably trying to keep budget down

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 3:04 AM

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A used 1070 would be a safer option

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 3:05 AM

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@arctic bloom Go for a 1660 Ti

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 3:05 AM

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maxwell is known for getting performance by cranking the voltage while most pascal cards get all the core frequency they can get at 1025mV to 1075mV

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 3:05 AM

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pretty much the same performance at the 1070 and more up to date

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 3:06 AM

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1070 is still about 10% faster, and a used one costs less than a new 1660 ti

arctic bloom Dec 4, 2019, 3:07 AM

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There isn't really a huge performance difference between the 980 and 1070 though

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by not pretty huge i mean a 1% diff according to gpu userbenchmark

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Really the 1070 is 10% faster than the 1660 Ti https://i.gyazo.com/5fa7b4105c6c235dc60ba76e5f18ca6d.jpg

arctic bloom Dec 4, 2019, 3:07 AM

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*980ti

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 3:07 AM

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shows 1 game

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Congration

arctic bloom Dec 4, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Yeah I want to go higher than a 1660ti

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 3:08 AM

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ok game number 2 https://i.gyazo.com/27f39791f136533d3feac0201556d8b6.png

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still not seeing it faster

arctic bloom Dec 4, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Used 1660ti's are pretty reasonable actually

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Here is RE2R https://i.gyazo.com/29640f86fe685c9bff707f0512093032.jpg

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I can keep going to show that the 1070 is not 10% faster https://i.gyazo.com/d34f3c2a54f79f4d7f4b32a26c3d5df9.jpg

arctic bloom Dec 4, 2019, 3:11 AM

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I believe you

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 3:11 AM

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I know you do but i doubt the other guy does

arctic bloom Dec 4, 2019, 3:11 AM

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ah fair enough

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thanks for the advice

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 3:12 AM

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np

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Just the thing is when buying a new GPU it is sometimes better to go with something more up to date because no one knows how long they will keep supporting the 10 series

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Nvidia could like next year if they wanted to drop support for their 10 series and just focus more on their 16 and 20 series

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 3:13 AM

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So the 1660 ti has caught up

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neck and neck

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look at 1% and .1% lows

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look at teh value proposition

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neither is going to age elegantly from this point

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gddr6 might have better compression and bandwidth, but 6gb vs 8gb is still substantial

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 3:14 AM

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I wouldn't say that cause some games people enjoys playing like the Assassin's Creed series it does out perform it by almost 10 fps https://i.gyazo.com/e591dbe3b06aad5a29304850a1cd8b7b.jpg

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and i know people that only plays Assassin's Creed and Ghost Recon

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Then 1070s are as low as $180 as the used market possibly less

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1660 ti starting price is around $250

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Normally 200$ 180 would be sometimes if someone is lucky but also most of the time those cards no longer has a warranty on them

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 3:16 AM

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My bad for not staying updated turing vs pascal

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theres still a value difference

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same reason he was thinking about a 980 ti

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 3:17 AM

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it is good to have an actual upgrade as well than upgrading to something that would become irrelevant

shadow verge Dec 4, 2019, 3:17 AM

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i paid 1399 for a 2080 super computer this week at best buy. it's $400 off right now

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 3:17 AM

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you think a 1660 ti will stay more relevant than a 1070?

livid girder Dec 4, 2019, 3:18 AM

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yeah

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 3:18 AM

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yep cause Nvidia tends to focus on their newer cards than their older

livid girder Dec 4, 2019, 3:18 AM

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1660ti is newer

shadow verge Dec 4, 2019, 3:18 AM

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This is on sale for 1399. Not bad at all

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gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 3:19 AM

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If you look at older cards like the GTX 780/780 Ti the performance is just like a 1060 but there is no support for that card

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 3:20 AM

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pascal is fully capable of the current apis

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 3:20 AM

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I wouldn't buy that PC

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It is but when support is dropped then the newer drivers can cause problems

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 3:21 AM

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The 1660 ti doesn't have nearly the potential gains its already made most of them to catch up to the 1070

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vs

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the 1070 aint getting better

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but the 1660 ti won't be getting better by much either

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its going to be a raw dollar amount difference

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for the value proposition

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 3:23 AM

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There is one thing that does make a big difference

queen crest Dec 4, 2019, 3:23 AM

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lets say you get the least expensive of either $180 (1070) vs $260 (1660 ti)

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atm

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 3:24 AM

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@shadow verge This is the only ventilation that system has in the front https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/6362/6362984cv14d.jpg;maxHeight=640;maxWidth=550

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that is hardly anything

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the front is all closed off plastic

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If i was to buy a system that has proper airflow i would spend a little more for this https://www.newegg.com/abs-computer-technologies-summoner-ali366/p/N82E16883102886

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Also the big difference is the 1660 Ti has GDDR6 while the 1070 has GDDR5

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@queen crest If you look at the 1650S all the specs on it should be a lot lower than the 1060 but the performance is actually very close

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and i mean the 6gb model for the 1060

wispy crystal Dec 4, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Soooo. Speaking of which, I found a used Asus ROG Strix 1070 TI for $300 flat. Should I get it?

viral leaf Dec 4, 2019, 4:45 AM

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EVGA sells 1660S and TI for around $200, not sure where people are seeing them for $250

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 4:49 AM

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Where are you getting 200$ from ebay?

wispy crystal Dec 4, 2019, 4:50 AM

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I'm seeing a lot of out of stock for the TI and Super

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 4:50 AM

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This is the cheapest 1660 Super https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-gtx-1660-super-ph-gtx1660s-o6g/p/N82E16814126353

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and the cheapest 1660 Ti https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-06g-p4-1261-kr/p/N82E16814487430

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I don't really include refurbished items because you never know if it is working as it should

wispy crystal Dec 4, 2019, 4:54 AM

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So yey or ney to the 1070 ti? Seems like a good deal to me

lone pond Dec 4, 2019, 4:54 AM

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Budget, games, use case, current system, monitor, other preferences like used/new/ customer service/warranty?

wispy crystal Dec 4, 2019, 4:57 AM

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Prob $300 budget, gaming card, ryzen 5 2600x with 8 gb of ddr4 3200 RAM, 1600x900 75hz Sceptre, but I plan on upgrading it this month since I get paid bi-weekly, don't care much about preferences tbh as long as it is better than my 570 and runs cooler.

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 4:57 AM

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If you're buying it on ebay read everything on the page or if on facebook question the seller

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Also for ebay look at the seller reviews to see if he/she has reviews for selling

wispy crystal Dec 4, 2019, 4:59 AM

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According to their page, 5 stars, works, and was only used for a couple months. Comes with original packaging and the works

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 4:59 AM

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on which page

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and also 8gb of memory is too little now a days

wispy crystal Dec 4, 2019, 5:03 AM

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Their seller page or whatever. The games I play recommend 4, but I'm not factoring in RAM to the budget

lone pond Dec 4, 2019, 5:03 AM

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Open to feedback? link here

spice prawn Dec 4, 2019, 5:04 AM

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@wispy crystal what @gray vapor is trying to say in the most complicated way possible is this: Be careful when doing second hand purchases.

gray vapor Dec 4, 2019, 5:09 AM

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No idea how that would be complicated

random prairie Dec 4, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Pretty sure I know the answer to this but what are the odds that the ASrock 5700 XT challenger gets a water block, or does anybody know if one exists?

lone pond Dec 5, 2019, 3:06 AM

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do you guys think there will be a toxic version of the 5700 XT? few months back it was speculated that it was to come out

dusk wolf Dec 5, 2019, 2:24 PM

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What are your opinions on a rx 590 vs a rx 5700 vs a gtx 1660ti? I'm coming from an old amd HD 6970 and would like to hit 50 to 70 fps as a min on 1080p monitor on newer modern games and some triple a titles as well. Cpu I'm running is a ryzen 2600

fallen schooner Dec 5, 2019, 2:24 PM

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everyone will tell you 1660ti

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but I will say 5700 😉

violet dock Dec 5, 2019, 2:27 PM

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I think I would go with the 5700 as well. just get a version that has a good heat sink

livid girder Dec 5, 2019, 2:48 PM

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nope 5700 the whole way

dusk wolf Dec 5, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Don't think I ever get another blower style card even though they work they sounds like a big jet engine in my ears

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How much better is a 5700 xt vs a 5700?

fallen schooner Dec 5, 2019, 3:02 PM

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a bit

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if you can get the xt, get it.

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msi mech version

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you wouldn't need to upgrade for a really long time.

gray vapor Dec 5, 2019, 3:07 PM

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Meh i would throw in a 4th option and say 2060 Super 😛

fallen schooner Dec 5, 2019, 3:07 PM

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of course you would lol.

dusk wolf Dec 5, 2019, 3:13 PM

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Out if my budget for a gpu but have heard good things about the 2060 super card.

gray vapor Dec 5, 2019, 3:13 PM

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Depending on what you play it can be better than the 5700

fallen schooner Dec 5, 2019, 3:13 PM

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can get the 5700XT for around 499.

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er 409

worldly crow Dec 5, 2019, 3:14 PM

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id rather nvidia myself i hate amd drivers .

dusk wolf Dec 5, 2019, 3:14 PM

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5700 350 5700xt 400to430 and 2060 super 450 to 500 current pricing I'm seeing

gray vapor Dec 5, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Well for the 5700 XT 410 for a decent one and 450 for a good one

fallen schooner Dec 5, 2019, 3:15 PM

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XT XT XT 😄

worldly crow Dec 5, 2019, 3:16 PM

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2060 super is 450 also

gray vapor Dec 5, 2019, 3:16 PM

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For the 5700 XT i would suggest going for this https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-100416nt-8gsr/p/N82E16814202351

dusk wolf Dec 5, 2019, 3:16 PM

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I play mostly rpg, racing games and some first person shooter games and open world games

gray vapor Dec 5, 2019, 3:17 PM

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2060 Super i would suggest this one https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-2060-super-zt-t20610e-10m/p/N82E16814500471

worldly crow Dec 5, 2019, 3:18 PM

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ewwww evga is the king they give warranty even when it run s out

fallen schooner Dec 5, 2019, 3:18 PM

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I'd go full amd build, since you have ryzen.

worldly crow Dec 5, 2019, 3:18 PM

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it depends on the games but some games the 2060s is higher and some the rx 5700 https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=rtx+2060+super+vs+rx+5700&view=detail&mid=54FB35BE9D4FD807267B54FB35BE9D4FD807267B&FORM=VIRE

fallen schooner Dec 5, 2019, 3:19 PM

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but really the option is up to you, lots of good cards

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for your price range.

gray vapor Dec 5, 2019, 3:19 PM

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eww YouTube video being played on bing

worldly crow Dec 5, 2019, 3:19 PM

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o shutup lol

gray vapor Dec 5, 2019, 3:19 PM

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Why are you using bing?

dusk wolf Dec 5, 2019, 3:20 PM

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I was originally looking at the rx 590 since it's more at the price point I want to be but was told to look at the 5700 gpu

worldly crow Dec 5, 2019, 3:20 PM

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bah 590 is nothing compared to the new cards out

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all the new cards use ddr6 memory and clock higherand built better

gray vapor Dec 5, 2019, 3:22 PM

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5700 does a little better in some titles but the one thing i will always have concerns for is this

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60 is a sweet spot and 75 is getting a little too warm for my taste

magic pebble Dec 5, 2019, 3:28 PM

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temps mean nothing unless you compare them to what the thermal design is

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rtx cards throttle in the mid 80's where as the navi cards can easily handle hot spots in excess of 100C

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there are industry wide issues with current gen nvidia cards throttling as a result of poor tim application even though the card is reporting temps well below the throttle point.

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if it see's even one hot spot on the card it goes into failsafe mode and ramps the cooler fans to 100% and throttles the card. this is resulting in fan speeds and clock speeds that cycle up and down every few seconds

gray vapor Dec 5, 2019, 3:33 PM

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Ya but for Nvidia cards it would depend cause with companies like EVGA they really make sure their cards are good on temps no matter which model while other companies like Asus and MSI will cheap out on their lower cost cards and make their more expensive one's better

magic pebble Dec 5, 2019, 3:33 PM

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evga also has the same problem

gray vapor Dec 5, 2019, 3:33 PM

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has no problems

magic pebble Dec 5, 2019, 3:34 PM

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its mostly been the higher end rtx cards

gray vapor Dec 5, 2019, 3:34 PM

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Well if i was to have a higher end RTX card i would be going hybrid or water

magic pebble Dec 5, 2019, 3:35 PM

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its not the cooling solution, its the thermal paste application from the factory

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on older cards the fan speeds were based on averages from the various sensors and the temp for the fail safe was much higher

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on rtx cards there are so many temp sensors on the die and poor application of the paste with uncovered heatspreader makes hot spots that trip the failsafe if any sensor goes over the failsafe temp

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luckily evga allows users to repaste their cards without voiding warranty, but for other brands they are making people rma the cards

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https://forums.evga.com/Resolved-Fan-1-Sudden-High-RPM-at-80C-RTX-2080-Ti-XC-m2931484-p2.aspx

Resolved - Fan 1 Sudden High RPM at 80C - RTX 2080 Ti XC (Page 2) ...

I have the EVGA RTX 2080 Ti XC and am having a weird issue where Fan 1 will suddenly go to 4100+ RPM. It seems a little random but happens around 80C. I have tried setting my fans to a fixed % and Fan 1 will still raise to 4100+ RPM. I've attached a screenshot of Prec...

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you can see several pictures of removed heatsinks that shows the exposed heatspreader causing the issue

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I have seen the same issues with aorus and msi cards as well

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for companies charging $1000+ for a gpu they should not be skimping on thermal paste

worldly crow Dec 5, 2019, 4:05 PM

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mines 66

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on my 1070

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on a furmark stress test

slender acorn Dec 5, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Newegg is going price parkouring

📎 image0.jpg 📎 image1.jpg

sinful bobcat Dec 5, 2019, 8:01 PM

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That's a Marketplace Seller price my dude

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Check where it says Shipped and Sold by

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Opps... swap that. Sold and Shipped

slender acorn Dec 5, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Oh no, I’m saying it says 880, but when I refresh the screen, it says 664

sinful bobcat Dec 5, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Oh haha, I saw the images in reversed.

slender acorn Dec 5, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Yer good

sour loom Dec 5, 2019, 8:03 PM

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2080 ti

slender acorn Dec 5, 2019, 8:04 PM

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No sense in spending 1k

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2080 is crazy enough

torn helm Dec 5, 2019, 8:11 PM

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My buddy's 2080ti was like 1700 bucks canadian

barren grove Dec 5, 2019, 8:12 PM

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pretty sure he got ripped off idk

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nope never mind

dense fulcrum Dec 5, 2019, 8:46 PM

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RX 560 :p

sudden compass Dec 5, 2019, 8:49 PM

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I don’t understand why people are buying 2080ti’s they are priced insanely high and will probably be replaced by something cheaper and better from NV in 6 months

granite juniper Dec 5, 2019, 8:49 PM

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cause some people don’t want to wait 6 months

rancid flint Dec 5, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Also they want the best performance possible without getting a titan

granite juniper Dec 5, 2019, 8:50 PM

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and they launched a while ago, not new releases

sudden compass Dec 5, 2019, 8:52 PM

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Exactly

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And barely even dropped in price.

wicked hound Dec 5, 2019, 8:54 PM

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@torn helm How the hell was a 2080Ti $1700 CAD? Even with tax an okay 2080Ti is like $1600 CAD

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like the expensive tax, 13%

torn helm Dec 5, 2019, 8:54 PM

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With shipping

peak pasture Dec 5, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Yeah to afford a 3950X in my upcoming build Im dropping from a 2080 TI to 2080 Super, I dont think its that big of a difference for the cost

torn helm Dec 5, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Zotac Amp edition

wicked hound Dec 5, 2019, 8:55 PM

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I'd go 5700XT tbh @peak pasture
5700XT to 2080S isnt that big of a difference

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but for 75% price increase

peak pasture Dec 5, 2019, 8:57 PM

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The performance difference between 5700 XT anniversary and 2080S is enough for me to get the 2080S.

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Plus I have overly specific requirements for Nvenc encoding

muted widget Dec 5, 2019, 8:58 PM

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I’m getting a 2070S and should’ve gotten 5700 because it’s only a little worse

lone pond Dec 5, 2019, 8:58 PM

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780

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:(

peak pasture Dec 5, 2019, 8:58 PM

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2070S is maybe close enough to 5700 XT annivarsary Id consider it for the value but I need just a tad more.

wicked hound Dec 5, 2019, 9:01 PM

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why 5700XT anniversary tho? AIB can easily OC past anniversary edition due to much better cooler

granite juniper Dec 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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^

wicked hound Dec 5, 2019, 9:02 PM

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I get NVENC, so long as your CPU isnt good enough already which makes most NVENC use cases not that great anymore. But perf differences alone isnt a point IMO

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Which your CPU is a 3950x so I dont think NVENC would do much of anything in almost all scenarios

lone pond Dec 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Is a 2060 good?

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bongbong

granite juniper Dec 5, 2019, 9:04 PM

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the 5700 is a better price/perf but its a decent card

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its more performance for the same price

peak pasture Dec 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Except it does, and will.

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Id definitely get a 5700 XT instead of a 2060 though.

wicked hound Dec 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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5700 is more of a 2060 price tho

granite juniper Dec 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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^

wicked hound Dec 5, 2019, 9:06 PM

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2060S is 5700XT price

granite juniper Dec 5, 2019, 9:06 PM

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that

wicked hound Dec 5, 2019, 9:06 PM

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5700 has like the best price to perf due to being able to flash 5700XT BIOS then do a slight power limit increase to get 5700XT perf

granite juniper Dec 5, 2019, 9:10 PM

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and you can put the powerplay stuff on it

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i'd grab one like this and flash the xt bios onto it https://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-Dragon-Radeon-5700-Graphics/dp/B07WRVWNMY/ref=sr_1_46?

dim gorge Dec 5, 2019, 9:17 PM

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What about rtx 2070 Super that’s the graphics im getting

muted widget Dec 5, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Don’t get it

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Btw

uncut zenith Dec 5, 2019, 9:18 PM

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would you recommand a rx 5700 xt

muted widget Dec 5, 2019, 9:19 PM

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I made the mistake of getting a 2070S and the Price to Performance is worse. 5700XT is only a little worse and it’s a lot cheaper

wicked hound Dec 5, 2019, 9:19 PM

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tbh I wouldnt get 2070S unless you need NVENC (which you usually dont if your CPU is good) or need it to work with actual gsync displays

muted widget Dec 5, 2019, 9:19 PM

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What is NVENC

wicked hound Dec 5, 2019, 9:19 PM

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video encoder

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so streaming/recording videos is its main use case

dim gorge Dec 5, 2019, 9:19 PM

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k

uncut zenith Dec 5, 2019, 9:20 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Thicc-2025MHz-Graphics-Rx-57XT8TBD8/dp/B07ZP5QZX2

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i wanna get that for the name tbh

dim gorge Dec 5, 2019, 9:20 PM

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I’ll get like a 2080 ti

lone pond Dec 5, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Bruh Bruh Bruh Bruh Bruh

uncut zenith Dec 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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???

lunar cliff Dec 5, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Sapphire 580 special edition, fan seems to make weird noises anyone know what could be wrong?

lone pond Dec 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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It's your grandmother sneezing cause of all the dust that comes out of your PC

mint quartz Dec 5, 2019, 10:03 PM

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How good is a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080?

grand tinsel Dec 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

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which one is better 1660ti or 1660 super

subtle tiger Dec 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

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whats a good graphics card for running vr on high settings

grand tinsel Dec 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

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1080

mint quartz Dec 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

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definitly 1080

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it literally says VR-Ready

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on the thing

smoky meteor Dec 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

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for reference 5700xt owners whats a stable oc yall have gotten

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wondering if the 2.2ghz that i got is decent or not

dense flicker Dec 5, 2019, 10:07 PM

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@subtle tiger 5700 or 5700xt

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great price to performance

smoky meteor Dec 5, 2019, 10:08 PM

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@grand tinsel performance wise 1660 ti

wraith zinc Dec 5, 2019, 10:14 PM

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oh no

grand tinsel Dec 5, 2019, 10:25 PM

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austinelee308 what about in price

wraith knot Dec 5, 2019, 10:43 PM

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is a 980 ROG STRIX outdated for this gen?

nocturne dagger Dec 5, 2019, 10:49 PM

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youre better off getting a used 1060gb or a used rx580. people who try to sell 980s want over 100 for them

twin crown Dec 5, 2019, 10:51 PM

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So I need a cheap but good card for about 135ish

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Or under

nocturne dagger Dec 5, 2019, 10:52 PM

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bro go used 1060 6gb

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or rx 580

twin crown Dec 5, 2019, 10:52 PM

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I was gonna go 1060 3gig

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Okay ty

nocturne dagger Dec 5, 2019, 10:52 PM

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you can get a 6gb for 100 i did

twin crown Dec 5, 2019, 10:52 PM

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My current card is an outdated amd card

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Can you dm me the exact one?

nocturne dagger Dec 5, 2019, 10:53 PM

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yep

twin crown Dec 5, 2019, 10:54 PM

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I built my pc two years ago

nocturne dagger Dec 5, 2019, 10:56 PM

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i built my own personally slightly over a year lol

twin crown Dec 5, 2019, 10:56 PM

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I have a pretty good build
ryzen 5 1600x
Random old ryzen card
Gigabyte ab350 gaming 3 mobo
2tb space and yeah

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And gskill aegis 2x8gb ram

nocturne dagger Dec 5, 2019, 10:56 PM

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not to bad

twin crown Dec 5, 2019, 10:57 PM

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I’m also looking for an ssd for my mobo on the box it says nvme m.2

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But I don’t know which ones are good

nocturne dagger Dec 5, 2019, 10:58 PM

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nvme is really good if you can get one for a good price. any boot drive should be ssd or nvme

lone pond Dec 5, 2019, 11:02 PM

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There are a lot of competitive nvme boot options, for a budget of $100 or so the sx8100 is nice. I would avoid the 660p, not worth it to save all of $20.

frosty rock Dec 5, 2019, 11:02 PM

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i wonder how much the FPS boost will be

📎 rTIJ01z.jpg

nocturne dagger Dec 5, 2019, 11:03 PM

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yeah idk why people recommend the 660p so much its not that great

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hot damn thats a upgrade

lone pond Dec 5, 2019, 11:04 PM

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If the 660p 1TB was $50? Sure, great budget build, but personally I really like $120 512gb 970 pro's for boot. Can be found easily on ebay.

nocturne dagger Dec 5, 2019, 11:04 PM

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yep pretty much

austere pivot Dec 5, 2019, 11:05 PM

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What is the real world difference in the 660p vs other m.2 ssds?

nocturne dagger Dec 5, 2019, 11:05 PM

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660p has slower chips on it that arent as reliable put it that way

austere pivot Dec 5, 2019, 11:06 PM

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ok.

peak pasture Dec 5, 2019, 11:06 PM

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Anyone got a link to a decent benchmark for GPUs? Im really trying to compare a 5700 XT Anniversary to a 2080S

lone pond Dec 5, 2019, 11:07 PM

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https://guru3d.com

Guru3D.com

Guru of 3D: Computer PC Hardware and Consumer Electronics reviews

nocturne dagger Dec 5, 2019, 11:07 PM

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2080s craps all over the 5700xt

peak pasture Dec 5, 2019, 11:07 PM

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Some Ive found from google adventures are... a bit non compare-y

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Thanks

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Looking at the FPS of the 2080S benchmarks, just makes me really want to buy a 2080 TI lol

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Yeah the 2080 TI just seems so far ahead of all other cards

lone pond Dec 5, 2019, 11:23 PM

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I recommend getting one with an "A" chip, a better cooler will run faster / quieter as well.
https://www.overclock.net/forum/69-nvidia/1706276-official-nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-owner-s-club.html

peak pasture Dec 5, 2019, 11:25 PM

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Its kind of hard to fit that in my build's budget.

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It looks like Ill even be going for Palit or Zotac 2080S with the way my budget is looking.

lone pond Dec 5, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Perfectly fine, 2080s could very well be better performance /$

peak pasture Dec 5, 2019, 11:28 PM

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Still trying to figure out the best way to lower my ubild from 2k1 to £2k without affecting performance much, I don't really have many options and I dont think theres any GPU options I can save money on any more without sacrificing noticable performance.

sand topaz Dec 5, 2019, 11:50 PM

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then in that case you might need to look at how you want to sacrifice performance or if you just want to go with what you've got and save a little more

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 1:17 AM

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@lone pond @peak pasture 'A' chips are a thing of the past btw

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the different variant chips were discontinued and now all the chips are the same

warm folio Dec 6, 2019, 1:18 AM

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At the moment looking at this graphics card and seems like it's one of the highest core clocks on deliver https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16814932076 but not sure if it's the best one to go with.

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 1:18 AM

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provided you wont have to worry about inventory and getting an old card

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@warm folio Out of the box clocks mean very little

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Cheaper just to get a stock 2080Ti and get full custom water cooling from Bykski or Barrow then OC

warm folio Dec 6, 2019, 1:19 AM

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or shall I just wait till the rtx 30 series starts rolling out mid 2020 for a build with a gpu.

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 1:20 AM

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That depends on you

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and what you need

warm folio Dec 6, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Not really sure. I've got a base budget of around $4000 but might as well wait as will likely add another $1000 or so in 2020 and wait for new products.

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 1:23 AM

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I wouldnt go for getting some "best out of the box" kind of 2080Ti. Getting stock then getting some watercooling kit can be the same price or cheaper.

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 1:53 AM

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I plan on upgrading my PC, will a 1080 make a difference compared to my 760 ?

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Severely. A 1080 is a really high-end GPU, and 760s are relatively outdated

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Takes too much place XD

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 1:55 AM

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I recently purchased a Ryzen 3 2200G processor.

Would the RX 590 give me a bottleneck? And if so, should I rather shoot for the RX 580 or even 480?

I'm more than likely going for 480 regardless, due to it being much cheaper... even more so when purchased second-hand.

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 1:55 AM

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The 590 seems good to me with a R3

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 1:55 AM

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@buoyant basin a used gtx 1080 is also generally overpriced where new hardware is either barely more expensive or even cheaper

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 1:56 AM

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The thing is, I am on a very tight budget and am currently waiting for my internship to start (which I will get paid for) to buy used hardware.

nocturne dagger Dec 6, 2019, 1:56 AM

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anyone seen the white editon 2080ti strix

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that thing is a hottie

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 1:57 AM

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@lone pond RX590 is just an OCed 580 which is just an OCed 480. Also generally a 590 comes onto the 1660S price where the 1660S is just better overall

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 1:57 AM

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I am currently running a pentium G3259 @4.00GHz (MSI OC Genie overclock) and a GTX 760.

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 1:58 AM

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Valid point there @wicked hound
so if I managed to get an RX 480 second hand in good condition (with a practically new fan) I'd be best off budget wise

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 1:58 AM

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I plan on replacing them with a 4790(K) and a 1080, if I can find them both below 150€.

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Aorus 2080Ti is sick too.

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@wicked hound I agree about that, I just answered his question since he wanted to go AMD.

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 1:59 AM

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I just never look at the high end 2080Tis cuz like, they cost so much you can legit do a full custom loop by getting the cheapest 2080Ti and still have it be the same price or cheaper than some high end 2080Ti

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:00 AM

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True.

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Also wait, where you live? 4790k for 150€ seems a bit much

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:01 AM

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That's impressive how much of a price difference we can find on GPUs like 2080 while they are mostly the same.

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France.

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:01 AM

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2600 is 130€.

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:01 AM

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And I'm including shipping fees into that price.

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And my config is a 4th Gen Intel based one.

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:02 AM

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Ah, so no mobo upgrade then?

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:02 AM

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No, I already have a Z87 PC Mate MSI Mobo.

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I never had any problem with that build I made 5 years ago.

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:03 AM

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I'd try to bargain like 90€ for a used 4790k tbh

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:03 AM

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And I don't have the money to go back from 0.

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Well I am currently looking on eBay for that, but shipping costs ~25€ for a single component.

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And most of the i7 are in auctions.

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I don't know if I should go for a K or non-K version of the processor since I don't know how much it could have been abused.

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But I could defintely use the extra 400MHz base clock.

vestal wing Dec 6, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Well are you gonna actually overclock at all tho /

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:06 AM

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I mean is your cooler good enough? Or your mobo? Or your PSU (not really wattage, but more like clean power)?

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:06 AM

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The base clock itself is (imo) enough to justify this choice.

vestal wing Dec 6, 2019, 2:06 AM

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fair enough

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:07 AM

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My cooler is a CM Hyper 212 EVO.

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My PSU could use an upgrade since it's a 500W.

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:07 AM

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500w is fine

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wattage general isnt the problem, it's the quality of the PSU

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:07 AM

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For a GTX 1080(Ti) I seriously doubt it will be.

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Bronze.

vestal wing Dec 6, 2019, 2:08 AM

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what is your psu

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:08 AM

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It's a CX500

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:08 AM

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1080Ti is about 300w power consumption, most CPUs are about 100w, rest of system is like 70w

vestal wing Dec 6, 2019, 2:08 AM

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brand & model

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oof

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:08 AM

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CX500 is a pretty decent PSU

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not lacking in protections, ripple is rather fine, for its price it is pretty damn good

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:09 AM

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Yes, but the recommanded power for a GTX 1080 is 600W

vestal wing Dec 6, 2019, 2:09 AM

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I'd say get like a 650 watt

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:09 AM

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recommend PSU is BS

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:09 AM

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"ripple" ?

vernal zenith Dec 6, 2019, 2:09 AM

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im sad i got the 2060s, and my cpu is bottlenecking gpu sad

vestal wing Dec 6, 2019, 2:10 AM

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what cpu is it?

vernal zenith Dec 6, 2019, 2:10 AM

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i7 6700

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:10 AM

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Darude Sandstorm

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:10 AM

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as I said, 1080Ti is 300w power consumption max, CPU is going to be like 100w with a modest OC, and rest of system wont really go over 70w. That's 470w total on a complete and utter max

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:10 AM

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Dafak ?

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When the hell does a 6700 bottleneck a GPU ?

fluid star Dec 6, 2019, 2:10 AM

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still psu is a problem nowadays ?

vernal zenith Dec 6, 2019, 2:11 AM

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idk man aparently when you get a 2060s

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:11 AM

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well a 6700 doesnt have super high clock speeds

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:11 AM

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I didn't really look forward to upgrading my system at the time I built my PC.

vernal zenith Dec 6, 2019, 2:11 AM

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i went form pre build, and build off it, and now i have this gtx 960 to 2060s

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Also by "ripple" I meant voltage ripple. Stability of the voltage rails

vestal wing Dec 6, 2019, 2:12 AM

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@buoyant basin I really gotta say looking at wattage data you gonna want a 650watt/750watt

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:12 AM

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@vestal wing what wattage data?

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:12 AM

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That's what I was thinking yeah.

vernal zenith Dec 6, 2019, 2:13 AM

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i have a 750, it good for prity much anything i will do, meaning have the money for

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:13 AM

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I just did the calculations myself based on reviews of full on testing of how much power each component takes

vestal wing Dec 6, 2019, 2:13 AM

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well I looked on PC Part picker & some other sites using wattage data for 1080ti and 4790K

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:13 AM

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Those are the recommandations I've seen myself for this kind of build.

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If I could OC my i7 4790K, I may want to get some extra power.

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Doing a major OC then 550w, but a 212 wont handle a major OC anyways

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:14 AM

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4.3 GHz clock speed all cores would be just fine for me I think.

vestal wing Dec 6, 2019, 2:15 AM

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thats what I run at while im OCed

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Yeah, I think I could use a newer Cooler.*

vestal wing Dec 6, 2019, 2:15 AM

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expect I use a 3700X

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NZXT Is good for AIO

vernal zenith Dec 6, 2019, 2:15 AM

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if my cpu was a overclocking cpu i would probely fry my motherboard

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:16 AM

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My problem is I do not want the expense of my upgrading to exceed 400€.

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That's what Apple did.

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Frying mobos.

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I can't wait to be able to run Skyrim full 2K textures, 250 mods and ENB @60FPS stable.

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And maybe I'm gonna give a try at RDR2

vernal zenith Dec 6, 2019, 2:18 AM

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nice

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:18 AM

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And TWIII that's taking the dust in my Steam library.

vernal zenith Dec 6, 2019, 2:19 AM

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when you gpu is only at 35c and at 98% and only on air cooling

vestal wing Dec 6, 2019, 2:19 AM

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@vernal zenith how can you say you don't have an overclocking CPU and then post in build chat that you got a 6700K

vernal zenith Dec 6, 2019, 2:19 AM

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ops

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:20 AM

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I saw 6700, am I blind ?

vernal zenith Dec 6, 2019, 2:20 AM

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fixed it

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:20 AM

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#build-pics

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@buoyant basin Is what was being referred to

vernal zenith Dec 6, 2019, 2:21 AM

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📎 unknown.png

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Ok I see.

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TY.

vernal zenith Dec 6, 2019, 2:21 AM

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np

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:22 AM

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Still, I'm surprised that a 2060 can be bottlenecked by a 6th Gen Intel CPU.

vernal zenith Dec 6, 2019, 2:22 AM

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2060 super

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Rhooo, that's the same.

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Almost.

vernal zenith Dec 6, 2019, 2:23 AM

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lol

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:23 AM

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That's about 1080 level perf

vernal zenith Dec 6, 2019, 2:23 AM

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yep

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:23 AM

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And twice as expensive in the best case scenario.

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:24 AM

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If you're talking about RTX, pretty sure it's more than twice as much

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:24 AM

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(For used 1080)

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:24 AM

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oh wait, that's what you meant. Thought you meant perf

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:24 AM

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No in term of pricing.

vernal zenith Dec 6, 2019, 2:25 AM

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pricing for the super is 400, probely should have gone for 5700xt, but i whanted dem rt cores

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:25 AM

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2060 is at best twice as expensive as a 1080 providing the 1080 is second hand and the seller is not a total [shouldn't be using this word].

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Well I would want to upgrade to recent components, but I'm afraid there might be some compatibily issues with my old gen hardware, without considering the price.

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 2:34 AM

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I don't believe there would be compatibility issues, but there would be some bottlenecks if you think your hardware is that outdated. I'd go for the newer GPU and then a new CPU

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 2:35 AM

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compatibility issues wont really happen. Just "bottlenecks"

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:35 AM

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With a pentium G3258, I think CPU is priority N°1.

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Anyway, I plan on upgrading both.

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Or there wouldn't be any interest in upgrading.

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The problem is the RAM which is 2x4GB 1333MHz.

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What "bruh" ?

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 2:37 AM

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I wasn't bruh-ing you

Also, that RAM doesn't seem too much of a problem, other than the low clock speed.

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:38 AM

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Yeah, I hope this will not be a problem.

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 2:38 AM

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This might sound robust but I'd go for single channel 16gb DDR4 if you want high frequencies at a low price.

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or, higher

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:38 AM

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DDR4 on a Z87 mobo, are you sure ? XD

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 2:39 AM

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wait

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you're DDR3 arent you

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fRIck

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I don't know my chipsets that well lol

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:39 AM

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With a G3258, no choice.

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Valid point

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:39 AM

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True.

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Honestly it might be safe to even just chase a whole new build after you save the cash

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:39 AM

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That's why I am looking for very old.

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Well, I don't have the money.

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 2:40 AM

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Integrated graphics in the Ryzen 3 2200G are actually better than your current GPU according to userbenchmark, so that might be safe to just yeet the GPU and put $100 on a cheap processor and mobo

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:40 AM

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And I should pay ~400€ for my upgrade.

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 2:40 AM

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then get a better GPU later on

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yo,

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yo yo

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hOw's it going

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:41 AM

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The thing is, I need both a new GPU and CPU, because both are limiting factors in my daily use.

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 2:41 AM

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Yea so, I got a 1660 ti is there any point in upgrading to a 2060 or a 1070 ti?

harsh marsh Dec 6, 2019, 2:41 AM

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i need to upgrade my rig any recommendations
i7-8700
GTX 1080TI
32 gb ram 2400hz
Gigabyte H370M DS3H

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:41 AM

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Not reallly.

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@lone pond

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 2:42 AM

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Alright

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:42 AM

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You're trolling aren't you @harsh marsh ?

harsh marsh Dec 6, 2019, 2:42 AM

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no

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 2:42 AM

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Also, i'm looking to add some rgb lights and i'm pretty sure i've got 2 rgb headers on my motherboard

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@harsh marsh your rig is good lmao

harsh marsh Dec 6, 2019, 2:43 AM

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i think i should upgrade the mobo and go to a 9th gen i7 with a higher clock speed ram kit

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:43 AM

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@lone pond The performances won't change that much, not significantly enough to be worth upgrading.

harsh marsh Dec 6, 2019, 2:43 AM

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but i want your guys opinion

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 2:43 AM

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@buoyant basin Yeah, go for a decent AM4 motherboard with a Ryzen 3 3200G

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while you wait on a new GPU or whatever you could use integrated Vega 8 graphics

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They're not too shabby, although limiting if you're after video production or something

harsh marsh Dec 6, 2019, 2:44 AM

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i think im getting a bottle neck

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do you guys know if so let me know

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 2:44 AM

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check dms @buoyant basin

buoyant basin Dec 6, 2019, 2:45 AM

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I am gaming, I play TESV, TESO, TESVI(Yet to come), MC, Fortnite, The Witcher III and maybe RDR2 and other games providing I have money left to buy them.

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@harsh marsh The best way for you is to check on the Internet different configs including the parts you mentionned and look at benchmarks.

rare saffron Dec 6, 2019, 7:37 AM

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how much is the usual trade up cost for a 1060 3gb to a 1070?

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does anyone know?

torpid garden Dec 6, 2019, 7:43 AM

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I like to use ebay as a rough estimate for market price. Filter search results to sold listing and sort by most recent.

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 8:22 AM

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yo
I have 3 monitors
all hdmi or display port
and with the 1660 ti
there's only 1 hdmi port
1 display port
and 1 dvi d port
How am I supposed to hook up the third monitor
cause my monitors don't have a dvi port

wicked hound Dec 6, 2019, 8:26 AM

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@rare saffron not enough to realistically be worth it. Go for 1070Ti/1080/2060S/5700 performance at least

rare saffron Dec 6, 2019, 8:27 AM

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then how much would it generally cost to trade up for a 1070ti?

sage mountain Dec 6, 2019, 8:27 AM

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@lone pond dvi to hdmi cables are common and pretty cheap

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 8:28 AM

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oh wtf

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actual?

sage mountain Dec 6, 2019, 8:28 AM

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yup

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im using one rn

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r u trying to run 144hz?

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im not too sure on the compatibility with dvi to hdmi on 144hz

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but with a 1660ti, i dont know if ull be running 3x 1080p+ 144hz

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 8:31 AM

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yeah 144hz

dreamy dragonBOT Dec 6, 2019, 8:31 AM

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Wonderful Day#5480 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

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Wonderful Day#5480 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

sage mountain Dec 6, 2019, 8:31 AM

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oops

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imma get banned one day LOL

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 8:31 AM

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aha

sage mountain Dec 6, 2019, 8:32 AM

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do u know ur monitor's hdmi port version

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since its 144hz, i assume its 1.4, but better be sure 👀

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 8:32 AM

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idk but

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optix mag 241c

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or 1cr

sage mountain Dec 6, 2019, 8:35 AM

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i think

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it should work

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dvid to hdmi should support 1080p 144hz

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as long as hdmi port support 144hz which monitor specs says it does

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and its dvid

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which u said u have

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 8:36 AM

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What about dvi d to display port

sage mountain Dec 6, 2019, 8:38 AM

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i think

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those are a lot rarer and more expensive

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and id say more scuffed

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 8:38 AM

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yea

sage mountain Dec 6, 2019, 8:39 AM

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i know for a fact that dvid to hdmi works as i am using one

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and as long as the hdmi port is 1.4, 144hz works

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and way cheaper

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 8:39 AM

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Yeah sweet

golden oxide Dec 6, 2019, 8:46 AM

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best gpu for my i5 7500?

subtle cave Dec 6, 2019, 8:47 AM

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@golden oxide 1660ti

maiden sun Dec 6, 2019, 11:03 AM

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Would an RX 580 8gb bottleneck a Ryzen 5 2600?

hard wren Dec 6, 2019, 11:04 AM

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it would but not terribly

maiden sun Dec 6, 2019, 11:04 AM

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Would should I get that won’t?

hard wren Dec 6, 2019, 11:04 AM

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and its the cpu bottlenecking the gpu not the other way around

maiden sun Dec 6, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Wut

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Most tests I’ve seen it’s the 580 bottlenecking

hard wren Dec 6, 2019, 11:06 AM

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on gpucheck they show the cpu being responsible for a 5-10% drop in frames with that combination

maiden sun Dec 6, 2019, 11:07 AM

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Ok, what should I get instead of the 2600?

hard wren Dec 6, 2019, 11:08 AM

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i5 8400 would get those frames back and push it the other way

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or a 2700 if want to stay AMD

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I do want to explain though that the bottleneck from a rx 580 and 2600 wont be terrible and it is within the margins for a good balance of components

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Also depends on what games you want to play as some are more CPU heavy and others more GPU heavy

thorny smelt Dec 6, 2019, 11:11 AM

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I would recommend the 3600 if you want a solid boost in performance over a 2600

hard wren Dec 6, 2019, 11:13 AM

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yeah the 3600 is a good option too and at a good price atm

thorny smelt Dec 6, 2019, 11:14 AM

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I have one paired with a 1080, I am happy with the performance overall, however I run wired optimised EA games so it's difficult to compare

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 12:05 PM

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should i get an rx 5700 xt sapphire nitro+?

thorny smelt Dec 6, 2019, 12:08 PM

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Check this out for 5700 xt advice

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https://youtu.be/5McVc0SQMHU

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

Worst & Best AMD RX 5700 XT Video Card Round-Up: Thermals, Pricing...

This AMD RX 5700 XT round-up looks at the best RX 5700 XT video cards out of those we've reviewed, evaluating performance, value, and if it's worth it to buy...

▶ Play video

hushed stirrup Dec 6, 2019, 12:12 PM

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I am really surprised that for the same RX5700XT have so much differences in performance, temperature, noise and etc. Those companies really didn't check their products...

thorny smelt Dec 6, 2019, 12:19 PM

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Well with the XFX thicc II it's kinda just terrible design, but honestly in the grand scheme of things the real world performance isn't that large

hasty blaze Dec 6, 2019, 12:26 PM

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What is recommended for an i5-650? I am making a budget build for my sister.

granite juniper Dec 6, 2019, 12:27 PM

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The thicc 2 also now comes fixed, here’s an article about it https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techpowerup.com/260696/xfx-revises-rx-5700-xt-thicc-ii-cooler-offers-replacements-to-current-owners%3Famp

TechPowerUp

XFX Revises RX 5700 XT THICC II Cooler, Offers Replacements to Cur...

An XFX spokesperson, commenting on a Reddit post linking to our comprehensive review of the XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT THICC III Ultra graphics card from Thursday, stated that they have revised the coolers of its sibling, the THICC II (which we also reviewed). Besides the number o...

hasty blaze Dec 6, 2019, 12:27 PM

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Thicc

thorny smelt Dec 6, 2019, 12:47 PM

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@hasty blaze honestly, get a better cpu and motherboard. Any graphics card you pair it with will get bottlenecked

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 12:52 PM

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I found a zotac RTX 2060 for $320

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Yay or nay

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@dense flicker

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Your opinion?

dense flicker Dec 6, 2019, 12:53 PM

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idk

abstract dome Dec 6, 2019, 12:55 PM

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@raven ledge i bought it someone stole my package tracking says it's lost lol was supposed to arrive last Saturday they should really hide what is in those packages

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 12:56 PM

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Huh ????

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Your humor is childish

abstract dome Dec 6, 2019, 12:57 PM

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The zotac rtx 2060 super mini

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 12:57 PM

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The one I found is a standard 2060

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Not a super or TI

abstract dome Dec 6, 2019, 12:58 PM

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I went with the super because why not the cost difference. Is not much for extra 2gb of v ram

fallen schooner Dec 6, 2019, 12:58 PM

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this

abstract dome Dec 6, 2019, 12:59 PM

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But someone at amazon shipping stole it haha should have bought at newegg

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 12:59 PM

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I’m not buying it new, I’m really tight on money and what I get from selling some stuff will pay for a new GPU, PSU and maybe a cheap sata hdd for my Mac

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:04 PM

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Mac is why you low on money 🙂

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 1:06 PM

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Fax

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I know some people that say they can’t afford a pc then buy a 13-1400 dollar Mac

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Like wtf

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With that you can easily get a pc with i7 1070+

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:10 PM

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oh yea

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 1:10 PM

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I got it for $27

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And it’s old

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But I’ve always wanted this specific model of the Mac because of the case

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:11 PM

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from what i hear apples dont like nvidia cards

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 1:11 PM

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Idk

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I cant even use it as I need DDR1 ram

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:12 PM

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all the apple stuff usually has some amd card

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Mine uses an ATI card

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:12 PM

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ok that is old

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 1:12 PM

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AGP x8

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:13 PM

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u cant put 2060 on agp

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Duh

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I have a pc

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And the Mac

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:13 PM

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oh 🙂

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 1:13 PM

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I actually have two PCs and the Mac but my gaming pc is the only function one

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The other pc is missing a HDD, GPU, and PSU

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:14 PM

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thats usually how it ends up anyway

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 1:14 PM

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is 1080 ti still good or I need an upgrade

thorny smelt Dec 6, 2019, 1:15 PM

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Still good

dense flicker Dec 6, 2019, 1:15 PM

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good

lone pond Dec 6, 2019, 1:15 PM

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Is Ray tracing even worth it and what's the difference it makes?

thorny smelt Dec 6, 2019, 1:15 PM

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General consensus, not worth it

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:20 PM

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i have a ray tracing card at home, i got like 2 games that support it, but i have no time to play them

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 1:20 PM

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Is a 1660 OC for $185 decent ?

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:20 PM

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so rtx not supported by most games

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"Is a 1660 OC for $185 decent" not if its a blower card probably

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 1:21 PM

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It’s a gigabyte one with dual fans

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:21 PM

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might be ok

thorny smelt Dec 6, 2019, 1:21 PM

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1660 is a decent 1080p card. Will do ok mid range

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:21 PM

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can u get 1660 ti or super, whats price diffirence

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gigabyte are ok recently

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havent had any problems with them

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i've installed maybe 30 of them, no issues from clients

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 1:23 PM

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I just don’t really like gigabyte

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:24 PM

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im not sure if its ok to discuss issues of other brands since newegg sells this stuff

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 1:25 PM

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The placement of one of the sata ports on my first motherboard was horrendous, right under the area where the GPU shroud would be. And the aorus RBG software caused my pc to BSOD and loop infinitely on my new motherboard

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First motherboard was a GA-A320M-S2H

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:27 PM

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i remmeber somebody mixing up rgb connectors and having the problem u've described

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it asnt on gigabyte mobo

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but could there have been a mistake

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 1:27 PM

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The RGB was built into the mobo

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It’s a single strip

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:27 PM

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oh lol

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 1:28 PM

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So there was no connector

hard wren Dec 6, 2019, 1:28 PM

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I've had good luck with cheap gigabyte boards lately

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 1:28 PM

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I mean don’t get me wrong, they are sturdy for the most part

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But I’ve had a lot of problems with software

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:29 PM

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i see the connector on gpu level 🙂

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but there's 3 under it

hard wren Dec 6, 2019, 1:29 PM

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everyone will be like that board wont be able to overclock because of bad VRMs but I can tell you my 8700k has no trouble at 5.3 on all cores on this below $100 gigabyte hd3 x370 board

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 1:30 PM

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I literally can’t play borderlands 2 or far cry 4 because of steam misplacing files or another program deleting necessary files for the game to work

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And @celest scaffold I was trying to use 4 different things

celest scaffold Dec 6, 2019, 1:30 PM

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i see

raven ledge Dec 6, 2019, 1:30 PM

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Two HDDs an SSD, and a cd/dvd drive