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#graphics-cards
dusky mesa
the Newegg overlords will execute you for treason against the egg
limpid folio
What I meant was you should definitely purchase it through newegg as to not deify the overlords XD
dusky mesa
Right, atm though I'm trying to get a VR setup for my computer so my cash is goin' towards that
limpid folio
Nice, you going with Valve's new one?
dusky mesa
sort of
limpid folio
I have the vive
dusky mesa
I'll be getting a vive with index controllers
limpid folio
Nice, my friend has one and really like them
dusky mesa
nice
limpid folio
I havent had a chance to test them out yet
dusky mesa
well from what I hear it's great
limpid folio
Noice, well let us know how they work for you.
dusky mesa
I will. I'm just trying to find a good deal on a used vive because I don't really care when I'm saving a few hundred bucks
limpid folio
Yeah, not sure of any good places for used ones.
dusky mesa
well there's the bay of E's
and I'm finding headsets for 100-200
infact I just found a headset for 85
dusky mesa
Downside to it though is it's missing the headsrap and front padding
raven ledge
I got my A40 TR at a pawnshop with my Xbox one for $120, the $120 was for Xbox alone, the headset was basically free
I only spent $32 to get the headset working as it didn’t come with the mic and cord
dusky mesa
oh neat
don't think I've heard of a A40 T4 though
ahhhhhhh it's a pair of headphones
I'm talking about VR setups
pseudo spruce
Hi, does increasing pcie bus clock speed in bios improve graphics card performance?
pseudo spruce
Ok so I should just leave it set at 32?
obtuse spindle
yeah
pseudo spruce
Cool thanks. I'm trying to learn how to oc my card or at least get the best out of it
I'm a noon when it comes to oc ing
noob
obtuse spindle
use MSI Afterburner
pseudo spruce
I just upgraded from an ASUS R240 to an AREZ Expedition RX570 O8C
pseudo spruce
Yeah I heard that is the best
pseudo spruce
Cool. Rn I just have GPU Tweak 2
Thanks BTW I really wanted a card that could play new games
R240 can't do much anymore
obtuse spindle
yeah, it's pretty behind the times
long phoenix
pseudo spruce
It was nice when I first got it years ago but tech changes so fast
Wow. that is awesome. thanks for the links
I'm also trying to learn how to oc my cpu with Intel Extreme Utility. I have a i7 4790k
I'm to afraid to adjust anything yet though
Till I learn more
rough harness
With any OC... adjust a few points at a time and run the test...
pseudo spruce
Okay that makes sense. That way I don't fry it
I have OC Genie on my MSI Board but it doesn't seem to make any difference when turned on
So I need to do it manually
quartz gull
Just bit the bullet and went from a 1060 to a 2060 for $280
It should be here in 5 days. Excited.
pseudo spruce
That's to much $$$ for me to spend on a gpu
I paid $120 for my Expedition RX 570 O8C. Got it at promotional price plus rebate
valid bane
i got the 2080 super lol
valid bane
no u
dusk dew
I would spam bruh bot don't wanna be ban
valid bane
it was my first card so its acceptable
rough harness
2080 super is sexy... hope you enjoy it.
little slate
What's wrong with getting 2080 super? Sure it isn't as big of a jump as other super cards, but it's still a good gpu
I'd say it's the best of the high end gpus because 2080ti price is just outrageous
limpid folio
I went with the super as well, cant wait for it to get in
Though the 5700XTs are looking amazing for the price
once the 3rd parties come out might pick on up for my wife
wraith pasture
limpid folio
on which part lol
weak sable
Blowers on the 5700xt's aren't as bad as people make them seem to be
But yeah AIBs worth the wait
Would love an Aorus 5700xt
I like what they did with the 20s stuff
long phoenix
swift hare
Nice
random prairie
Ooooh
Ya the blower is really actually not such a problem, I mean, AIBs will be better but still
rough harness
Good looking....
pure tide
Only...
lone pond
I would look more at the fps numbers vs the % when comparing cards - better yet, userbench will show some guestimate user submitted fps numbers for a few popular games
%ile is very useful though
long phoenix
FPS is good
You can get 100+ FPS on 1440p ultra with it
Difference between anniversary and XT is 75 MHz
lone pond
Oh I just meant the userbench tests. I saw the cpu scoring change, I'll see how dramatic is it when i test the 3700x
long phoenix
I have an i7-7700k so eh
I really want a 3900x or 3950x to complete the AMD build though .-.
lone pond
i cant wait...one day ill upgrade from the 3gb gtx 1060 lol. Been lookin at the xt
long phoenix
Join the team :D
lone pond
some day i hope
wraith pasture
tiny galleon
Running out of Ideas here. So, I have a GigaByte GTX 980 Ti G1 Gaming (GV-N98TG1) This card was gifted to me back in May. My friend told me to ship him My PC(R5 2400G, RX550 and no RAM) and he had a surprise for me. well He sent back a R5 1600, 8gigs of DDR4 3000, and the Video Card above. Due to a promise i made I required the RX550 back. the system was on my Board I had. Well, this card is stupid heavy and no supports were put in place for shipping so when i got the System the weight of the card + FedEx had caused half of the PCIe slot to complete separate from the board. I saw the large amount of Sag when i took it out of the box. Well he sent me a new board and when I got the system back up and running the Video Card doesn't seem to work right. I get Red and Green lines on my screen and it's not fully recognizing the card. GPUZ shows the correct information for drivers and BIOS but the clock speed, Mem Clock, Memory Size and a few other things are blank or 0(zero). as well the Resolution is maxed to 800x600 (I have a 27" 1080p Panel). also the nVidia control Panel is not showing up. I have Updated my Mo Bo BIOS, used DDU to remove the drivers and fresh install current drivers. the Windows install is a clean install. He added an SSD which required new Win10 64-bit. I benched the card for a few months and went back to the RX550 since it works fine and I have no issues with it. I currently have this hooked up by DVI to VGA to a 19.5 LCD and its running in 1024x768. I'm pretty sure it's bricked and possibly due to Stress fractures in the solder joints. the card ran no problems when my friend installed it. It was donated to him by one of our other friends who had it in a Water Loop and it ran fine, no overheats. He upgraded his system so he had it available. Like I said I think it's stress fractures from the FedEx handling and no support for the weight of the card during shipping.
I have a screen cap of GPUZ and my phone has a pic with the lines on my 27" monitor.
Also, i have this message in Device Manager "Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)"
oblique cypress
yeah im not gonna read this article before me
tiny galleon
I was trying to be detailed.
dusk dew
It's not even a lot, and I have no clue. Possibly the shipping screwed it up somehow
tiny galleon
TL: DR My 980 Ti G1 Gaming has the following issue. it was shippied in the system with no support and damaged my Mo Bo. After Mo Bo replacement, the screen has red and green lines over it and it's locked to 800x600 on a 1080p Panel.
That's been my conclussion I just wasn't sure if there was one last thing i could check.
that's my screen when it's loading Windows.
or in the case of that screen was when I tried to get into the BIOS.
it runs fine on this 19.5" LCD panel. well except for the not recognizing sensors and such in GPUZ
HEre is the Screen of GPUZ I took a little bit ago.
bronze merlin
tuff
shadow venture
2080 super worth the buy i have a 1080 right now?
lone pond
@shadow venture yes, if you can afford it, go for it.
@tiny galleon Yeah if you're using the new mobo and the 980 is not working right but the RX550 works fine, then it's a problem with the 980. You could list the 980 on ebay as "for parts or not working" and maybe get $30-$50 out of it as someone can use it for parts or maybe fix it.
tiny galleon
I'm putting my money on damaged solder joints from the shipping.
I'm going to use it as Shop Decor.
It's a Massive Card and looks good.
unique flax
Do you guys think it is worth it to upgrade from 1080 right now?
valid bane
To what
unique flax
Honestly when I think about it, either 2070S or 2080Ti
dense flicker
i do not think its worth it
unless you want real time ray tracing
which cuts ur fps in half
unique flax
That's true
dense flicker
the 1080 is a fantastic card
ray tracing is a luxury that makes the game look just a bit better
unique flax
Yea I am having good time with the 1080 and trying to hold until next gen
oblique cypress
not that most people use it unironically when gaming anyways
dense flicker
if i were you id keep the 1080 right now
unique flax
Probably I am doing that
long phoenix
unique flax
The problem with current gen that if you dont go all the way up to 2080ti you are essentially getting 1080Ti performance
dense flicker
¯_(ツ)_/¯
primal loom
Ok so, continuing thread;
Which will yield better thermals on a 2080 super;
A) stock fans (which cover vrms)
B) AIO on the die (which doesn't cover vrms)
Custom loop is not an option here atm.
Lowest full load temps is priority.
lone pond
Dude just get a regular card theres no need for any extra crap
AIO on die would definitely need a secondary solution to cover, conduct the heat from (like the backplate that's on many such cards, but on the face of the MOSFETs and memory chips ) and then something to dissipate that heat away too
Just air cooling will do you just
Great
primal loom
But pihre, yes I understand your advice
I'm asking a question with a binary option though
obtuse spindle
there is no yes or no answer
people with the same build, the same parts, identical setups could have wildly different results
lone pond
Your question isn't one that can always be answered with a binary response until you define the constraints further
primal loom
What further constraints required?
lone pond
If you ask "can I cook a GPU with an aio" the anser is yes, BUT...
but you have to figure out how to cool the rest of the stuff
If you are concerned about heat you can underclock or undervolt.
primal loom
Which I'm assuming short of a custom loop, is a pain
lone pond
Or replace stock thermal paste
@primal loom Maybe, depends on what you have laying around
primal loom
Nothing
lone pond
Just save your money dude no need for that extra crap
Then.. ya, you're going to spend a lot for very little gain
primal loom
So essentially, option A)
lone pond
Yea
primal loom
Thanks
lone pond
But if the diy aspect is fun and rewarding for you, then have at it
primal loom
Sort of? But definitely not until December
I'm far too busy
That's why I said maybe open loop later
Ok so, we've identified stock is better in most scenarios, and hybrid coolers (oem closed loop) does not yield lower thermals than stock fans. Is this correct?
lone pond
I'd be cautious putting a 2080, or really any gpu into a full, single loop rig. The card isn't hardly thermally limited anyway, so unless you have at least dual 360's with $150 in fans alone between them or more, all you're doing is warming the water for your CPU
lone pond
Have you ever built a computer? Ever had an AIO or Custom loop? I have... AIO isnt worth it... my Custom loop was better in general.
I think custom loops are inherently uniquely suited to those who want to do more for fun and less for performance, but you probably don't want to go through all that money and work to get worse than what you'd get on air only.
Actually, idk if 2080 supers would be as relatively insensitive to thermals as the 2080 ti was.
primal loom
I've built one computer in 2012. Stock cpu cooler, single case fan. @lone pond
lone pond
Wow
obtuse spindle
then probably best you go with stock GPU cooler and at most an AIO
primal loom
@lone pond 2080 super has slightly higher thermals than 2080 if that helps
lone pond
FE or Aftermarket
primal loom
Under full load 2080 super higher thermals than 2080 stock
But yknow, performance, so
lone pond
I have to see it first
lone pond
2080 Super is the same die as a 2080 but maxed out.
Best card for you would be any ROG 2080 Super if you concerned about cooling. They look good and cool good.
primal loom
Thank you
lone pond
Advanced is good
primal loom
Also there's a few supers with 3 fans
lone pond
2080S is still 104
primal loom
Js
lone pond
That's the codename
Same die. It just tweaked the die out
They re used 2080 silicon
Literally binned 2080s
obtuse spindle
if you're spending that much, get a 2080Ti and be done with it
primal loom
Seems overkill
lone pond
All 2080's (not ti) and 2070 supers are the same die i thnk
obtuse spindle
and a $1000 Super isn't?
lone pond
Thats wrong
primal loom
No
lone pond
It should only be 700-800 max
lone pond
2080 Super retail isnt worth that much
lone pond
Oh thats in canadian dollars?
primal loom
Yes
lone pond
1000 cad is 700 usd
lone pond
Dont live in canada so i wouldnt know about that
primal loom
Well, compare 2080 prices
lone pond
Wow
obtuse spindle
no, your dollar is garbage
primal loom
Everything's more expensive
lone pond
Yea
primal loom
Ok thanks firstly, but secondly, I mean the fact that it doesn't map out
lone pond
I was agreeing with matt. Funny currency
primal loom
The part where $700 item does not cost $700 if directly converted in currency, I mean
11% increase just for being in canada
But, again, tldr,
Buy this?
https://www.newegg.ca/asus-geforce-rtx-2080-super-rog-strix-rtx2080s-a8g-gaming/p/N82E16814126336
obtuse spindle
it's because your dollar is worth $0.76
so you're going to inherently pay 25% over anyway
companies aren't going to lower the canadian price to match the US price because they would lose money on the deal
primal loom
... Correct, but 700usd equals 918.99 cad
This part is 1k
My point is exactly the OPPOSITE, the price is raised, currency aside
primal loom
Then my mistake
In any case I was defending the 1k cost
Not trying to complain about it
But, back to the point, for a third time,
Best outcome: buy this. Y/n
https://www.newegg.ca/asus-geforce-rtx-2080-super-rog-strix-rtx2080s-a8g-gaming/p/N82E16814126336
obtuse spindle
you could buy a 2080Ti in the US for $1,099 and have someone you know here ship it to you
primal loom
... I would pay the same in Canada wouldn't I?
little slate
and you might have to deal with customs
lone pond
just don't run the cpu
primal loom
Huh
hollow atlas
is the 3400g better than the 2400g in terms of graphics
fallen schooner
probably
hollow atlas
okk
hollow atlas
k thanks
vale chasm
Is saving for the 2060 super worth it or should I save for a Vega 56 or something like that
cold stream
2060
oblique cypress
because thats what heroes do
jade quartz
I try to stay away from Zotac... EVGA is more of my favorite.... every card I got has ran until I decided to remove them to upgrade.... "The never ending PC upgrade cycle."
primal loom
I just personally dont know anyone whos heard of them before rtx
but thats just a bias
oblique cypress
never heard of it lol
obtuse spindle
they're big in Europe
obtuse spindle
their Amp Edition cards are noice
primal loom
Why's this noticeably cheaper than the other 3x fanned gpus
jagged tapir
primal loom
evga ftw3 ultra: $1,049 CAD
ROG Strix: $1,029
MSI Gaming X trio: $1,029
Gigabyte aourus: $999
gigabyte gaming oc: $969
jurassic park on melodica plays
primal loom
is there no canadian people here and if not are there no observant/common sense US people :P
Does canada really not exist to you guys
I thought that was a meme
jagged tapir
it's not like it says CAD lmao
unique thunder
Where is Canada
primal loom
up
unique thunder
Hmmm
primal loom
If zotac and palit are "so well known" why arent they sold out
half sapphire
The gpu I got for 280 was an AMP edition
worldly peak
So I’ve got a pretty basic question here, if I’m getting a Ryzen 7 3700x and I already have an RTX 2070, would it be worth it to buy an RX 5700XT to go with it or should my 2070 be good enough?
little slate
it's not worth buying a 5700xt if you already have a 2070
worldly peak
That’s what I figured, I just wasn’t super impressed with it when I put it in my old f(x) 8320 build
But that’s probably from the MSI 970 motherboard bottlenecking it
quartz gull
Oh you had a space heater?
worldly peak
Yeahhhh my first build wasn’t the most... researched
quartz gull
The fx 8320 wasn't a terrible chip, it got so hot though
worldly peak
It lasted pretty long for me, last four or so years - just figured it’s now so out of date that I’m getting awful frames in games such as Insurgency Sandstorm or the newish metro game
And even the RTX 2070 can’t function on such a board and with such a chip to compensate
fallen schooner
That 3700x will definitely open to that 2070
unique thunder
primal loom
All the triple fan 2080s's have been out of stock and only stay in stock for like literal minutes
And again
CANADIAN DOLLAR EXISTS
I didn't overpay, you Americans
quartz gull
What's a Canadian dollar?
long phoenix
Aorus ❤
unique thunder
Where is Canada
long phoenix
West of Ireland
quartz gull
Oh I get it @primal loom ! A Canadian dollar is a dollar covered in maple syrup, thus dropping it's value.
rough harness
Yep
primal loom
You're all Canada's pants
unique thunder
Canada’s pants
primal loom
That is America
unique thunder
At least you have free heath care
primal loom
It's alright can't complain about free
Europe has it better iirc
Our "free" you can definitely tell is free
primal loom
But if you're f'ing dying at least you don't wake up, look at the bill and wish they let you die
primal loom
So our healthcare system, to quote the dummy from Chernobyl, is "not good, not terrible"
unique thunder
Mediocre
unique thunder
Bro you break your leg and they’re gonna charge you 35,000
dense flicker
no politics or swearing pls
unique thunder
I just got caught up in the conversation
brisk sluice
Swear words
unique thunder
I did
primal loom
Anyway hopefully after my $1k limit card got declined twice before I realized the cost was over 1k and switched cards, it'll approve my purchase
It said accepted and is now processing so
/shrug
unique thunder
When is it supposed to come in
unique thunder
Should tell you
primal loom
I could swear I didn't get an option though
Recently ordered and it wasn't where it was last time
unique thunder
Probably 7-14 business days
primal loom
Hey I mean it's a good card
I wanna be that guy who aay "but its no 2080 super" but I'm not enough of a Richard to say that unironically
"It's not exactly a 2080s is it"
2080Ti shows up
sonic cedar
gotta a question about 2080 ti, is there some special way im supposed to install the drivers
only reason i ask is because i got one and installed it and after i reinstalled the drivers i had issues I couldn't get the card to work after that so i was told to RMA that card, which i did. This time and just left the drivers alone (already had a 1080 installed) and I downloaded the stand alone standard driver and now weird things happening. like the mouse not showing the cursor on the extra monitors and weird stuff that seems driver related. So thought I'd ask here to see if anyone had any experience upgrading to a 2080 ti and if you encountered any driver issues and what you did to solve it.
oh i have windows 10 version 1903
lone pond
@sonic cedar First I suggest going here: https://www.geforce.com/drivers getting the newest drivers through the manual driver search and when you install them use the "clean install" method to get rid of previous driver remnants. If that does not work, I suggest reverting back to the previous Win10 build by "To go back to an earlier build of Windows 10, open Start Menu > Settings > Update & Security > Recovery. Here you will see Go back to an earlier build section, with a Get started button. Click on it."
sonic cedar
So is there a known issue with 2080 ti and 1903?
lone pond
Many people are having different problems with 1903 but I actually earlier just helped someone with a video card driver issue that was caused by 1903 and reverting to the previous build version fixed the issue.
But i would try updating the drivers first as stated above ^
sonic cedar
ok thanks
Yup NVIDIA just rushed out an update today that fixed the mouse not rendering correctly.. Boom
Another question. Should i be using DCH drivers or standard drivers. I've been using standard
lone pond
@sonic cedar DCH or standard drivers for the monitor?
sonic cedar
for the graphics card
lone pond
@sonic cedar I just use normal WHQL non-beta drivers.
sonic cedar
I take it that you are not familiar with the DCH and Standard driver type from NVIDIA. Both types are WHQL
lone pond
@sonic cedar I've been happy with a 2080 ti and 1903 build 18898 through my current 18917. I've always installed the DCH driver, DDU'ing betwen new installs.
sonic cedar
@lone pond ok sweet. So do you use the geforce program or do you download all your new drivers manually
lone pond
https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us I ditched GXP and do a few more things to strip down the driver mainly out of principle but also for less DPC latency
sonic cedar
ok i gotcha how much DPC latency do you cut out, is it noticeable or are you just kind of OCD about it
and how are you build 18917. Are you windows insider
lone pond
110% the latter for the vast majority
Yes
I meant that I use "standard" not "normal".
sonic cedar
ah that makes sense I had to ditch windows insider a while back. Every time a new build would come out the software i used for work would stop working lol... anyway so 110% that huge... what extra stuff do you do then
@lone pond roger that. I might switch to the DCH one since soon it will be the industry standard driver anyway
lone pond
Mine isn't even the most recent, I just have't updated because I'm going to be installing clean on this machine anyway
Go DCH
sonic cedar
@lone pond ok i will so i should DDU in safe mode, disconnect from internet, uninstall windows driver for card on boot and run DCH driver installer?
that's what i've been seeing the googles during our char lol
@wraith pasture sorry theo we are boring you lol
wraith pasture
nahhhhh
lone pond
@sonic cedar Ya, I download DDU / GPU driver first, disable my ethernet adapter (you can just unplug), reboot to safe mode, run ddu under default settings (uninstall and restart), then intall gpu driver, then enable ethernet
You can also use this for audio drivers, unlikely, but I've used it in the past.
dim saddle
Hello happy ones
is it still worth it buying a high-end laptop with 1080 or its outdated now ?
if its not outdated yet how long u think 1080 can be capable option for the coming years ?
sonic cedar
@lone pond awesome thank you
@dim saddle I think 1080 is still a great great card for gaming and will be for a while. it just wont be long until it can't handle any game at the highest setting. Doesn't mean it won't still look great and get the job done
jagged tapir
2070 super or regular 2080 
plucky dagger
ended up finding a 2080 super gigabyte OC today, $730 should i use that or go with the msi ventus 2070 super ($519) that i already bought?
steady hornet
hows the rx590
plucky dagger
obviously the 2080 is better and i can afford either, but is the performance increase worh it from 2070super to 208super for ~$200 in your opinion is what im wondering i guess
valid bane
I went with the 2070 super over the 2080 super, got an evga 2080 super on its way back to newegg
plucky dagger
nice
sinful viper
@steady hornet I’ve heard that the rx 590 is just an overclocked 580 with a bigger heatsink, so you’re choice would depend on whether you’re willing to pay them to tweak the card for you
Correct me if I’m wrong
lone pond
RX 590's go on sale for $180, what's your budget
oblique cypress
if someone is considering an rx 590, the gtx 1660 is slightly better for a similar price
lone pond
Ya, a $200 ish 1660 is my go-to recommendation for a lot of budget builds. Especially since it has the Turing encoder. RX5xx also lacks vp9 etc but that's an edge case.
unreal wren
i figured it out
lone pond
@unreal wren ?
unreal wren
lemme explain
@lone pond
having problems with freesync
realized that it wasn't enabled in my monitor
then realized ive been using the monitor OSD wrong
and feel like a blundering idiot
lone pond
@unreal wren Well it's good you figured it out.
unreal wren
thanks
lone pond
@unreal wren No problem, let us know if you need any more help?
dusky mesa
Y'know, this a dumb question that I probably know the answer to already, but in terms of performance, would it be better to upgrade to a RX 5700 XT or crossfire my Vega 56 ?
weak sable
Probably upgrade Mars TBH
somber charm
question: go for a used 1080ti or buy a new 2070s? I dont know what i wanna do anymore haha
to pair with my 3700
x
dense flicker
between those two i would get the 2070
unless the 1080ti has like some really good deal
weak sable
Yeah I still question whether I wanna go 5700xt or 2070 lol
dense flicker
2070 
dusky mesa
Yeah I'd do a 2070 atm
Unless if you'd somehow benefit from a blower cooler with the 5700xt
or if you're all about them visuals, then I'd stick to the 2070 wholeheartedly
weak sable
Yeah It would be a 2070s
I almost thought about going to the 2080s but
250+ more $ ehh
dusky mesa
Yeah I wouldn't get one of those atm
still a relatively bad price to performance value, even with the super launch
weak sable
Plus their all outta stock
dusky mesa
lol yeah
weak sable
Would want the Aorus one 😍
Still waiting on 3900x stock
I need one more for my buddy
By uh next Friday
🤦
weak sable
I got lucky Amazon had them in stock for like 5 min so I ordered one for myself and got it like 3 days later now I need one for him for build day on the 9th and im like ehhhhh
dreamy dragonBOT
MarsOlive#9928 has been warned
dense flicker
weak sable
Also want that G skill Trident neo Ram which instantly went outta stock 
dusky mesa
Which one are those again?
ah nvm I looked them up
Idk, I'm not a huge fan of how they look
Personally, the best looking RAM for me is the Corsair Vengeance Pro line-up
weak sable
Yeah they arent the best
dreamy dragonBOT
CoolMike#3034 has been warned
dusky mesa
Bruh same
weary kayak
anyone got any tips or tricks of how to reduce graphics card sag?
dense flicker
you could always try legos too 
that brace also comes in different colors if it matches your build better
weary kayak
oh thats cool
dense flicker
weary kayak
it works inside a case too yes? not just the test bench lol
dense flicker
yep
dense flicker
yep
granite juniper
o
dense flicker
UH OH
granite juniper
🤔
dense flicker
my dad is using the bottom most pcie slot for his graphics card
granite juniper
o
weary kayak
eww bro
granite juniper
🤔🤔🤔🤔
dense flicker
i should tell him about that
weary kayak
thats kinda cringe bro
granite juniper
yea
dense flicker
welp lets hope his motherboard doesnt rip between now and when i see him again
weary kayak
dont put that idea into my head please
dusk dew
My friend uses Batman Minifigures to hold up his gpu
granite juniper
Smart 100
lone pond
so i have a GeForce GT 730 how bad is it?
lone pond
yeah its also half dead so im replacing it
fallen schooner
but you already bought one
long phoenix
I'm aware
rough harness
vestal sparrow
I'm pondering about getting a i9 9900(non k) and I'm not sure what graphics card to get
fathom abyss
rough harness
Why non K? It’s like a 40$ gap and unlocked
granite juniper
why don’t u get like a 3700x or sumthing and a 2080 super
Instead of 9900 and 5700xt
long phoenix
freesync > gsync
warped sable
G sync is better hands down, but free sync costs less
wraith pasture
Gsynx>freesync @long phoenix
long phoenix
Freesynx > gsynx @wraith pasture
oblique cypress
similar things
warped sable
Partly why it’s suuuper expensive^
lone pond
What kinda GPU is this? lol
steep pond
do not buy from wish there are all knock offs
half sapphire
Lol it looks like someone glued on a heatsink onto just a pcie port
long phoenix
Never buy from wish
obtuse spindle
that is one of these https://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIA6V87HX5336?icid=WP_25_07252019
it's an M.2 to PCI-E adapter that's compatible with all PCi-E slot sizes
well, 4x, 8x and 16x anyway
brisk sluice
anyone got a good MSI graphics card recomendation under $450
vestal sparrow
rx 5700xt
brisk sluice
Current Motherboard is MSI. I plan on slowly upgrading parts until its a whole new PC
twin forge
You don't have to get an MSI card for an MSI board, I'm personally partial to EVGA for their top tier customer support and RMA process
vestal sparrow
5700 is shiny
brisk sluice
ye but does it got that chroma
brisk sluice
wym, you telling me walmart sells LED strips for $5/30ft
twin forge
why would you need 30 feet of LED strips
vestal sparrow
secsual desire
brisk sluice
Summoning IT demons
jovial girder
I got a MSI 2070 armor for sale, pretty much new for 450. New Jersey though..
vestal sparrow
brisk sluice
id do that but my budget is limited
vestal sparrow
You can buy a new one for $430
brisk sluice
Can i cop that link
vestal sparrow
brisk sluice
nice, thanks
vestal sparrow
Yeah
brisk sluice
Im looking at Duke OC Triple fan one
granite juniper
Any of the triple fan ones are usually around the same level like the duke, strix, amp extreme, and gaming x trio
long phoenix
5700 XT is really good though
MSI is coming out with their own models soon so I'd pick one up if I didn't already have the blower one
@vestal sparrow
I've been playing battlefront 2 (2017) on Max graphics at average 144FPS on my 144Hz monitor, not sure about newer games performance but it gets great FPS at 1080p and 1440p
@lone pond back me up here
vestal sparrow
I'm probably gonna get the 5700xt, although @twin forge said that the drivers are unstable, so he pointed towards the 2070 super
long phoenix
The drivers are a little glitchy rn but AMD is good at fixing them up with a bit of time
If you need Ray tracing then 2070S, if you don't, save $100-150 and get a 5700 or 5700 XT
solemn cedar
If you're a streamer or youtuber pick 2070 @vestal sparrow
NVENC encoding system is really good
vestal sparrow
Alright Thanks
I'll probably get the 5700xt as I would lose money if i tried streaming
rough harness
GLITCHY & AMD in the same sentence??? No.... it can’t be so
long phoenix
Huh
vast urchin
What's a good graphics card?
versed quarry
For the computer or graphics card?
vast urchin
$850 max for computer and idk about graphics card
dense flicker
do you already have some parts purchased?
vast urchin
I have parts in mind ready to purchase yes
vast urchin
So far I have $459 left in my budget
My processor+motherboard+ram+hard drive equal to $391
But this is just like a beta build I still haven't purchased any of them so I'm just looking to see what's better
versed quarry
what are you going to be doing with it?
versed quarry
you can get a 1070 gtx in that price range. But like I said... depends what your using it for.
dense flicker
lol.
versed quarry
I just finished mine... 1st time.
vast urchin
Gaming pc
High frames that are consistent is what I'm looking for😩
And I don't know about the power supply because I have no idea which ones are good
versed quarry
you using a PC builder at all? it helps stay in budget while getting the compete build. Id get a cpu/gpu first
vast urchin
I'm using PC part picker at the moment
versed quarry
what site?
vast urchin
fiery plaza
wow you must be really organized
vast urchin
Right and I don't even own a PC yet 👀
Jk jk
I'll be honest if I can get a good 160-200 fps on fortnite or R6 I'm good
versed quarry
haha... yes ive heard of it. I read it as im using A pc part picker. Im trying to play LOL and watch netflix while joining the convo haha 😛
dense flicker
oh lmao
vast urchin
There's so many graphics cards I'm losing my mind ahhh
My friends tell me "gEt aN NvIdIa 2060" but I don't even know what that issss
I know what Nvidia is but idk
versed quarry
I got a MSI GeForce rtx 2080 TI Sea Hawk X.... Then removed the liquid cooling hahahahaha.
main marsh
Hey fairly new to PC building (Just built my first PC like 8 months ago) and now I'm looking to build a second one as a streaming PC. Since it's going to be dedicated to just streaming I don't think it needs a ton of graphics power but I don't know what kind of graphics card to get. I have a 1080 in my current build and had considered buying like a 2070 Super for that and moving the 1080 to the streaming rig but I also don't want to spend that much money. I was looking to build this whole PC for like $600 (I already have the CPU so not counting that in the $600 budget)
Here's what I have without the GPU
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/SportsMasochist/saved/HFNykL
. That should fix it
main marsh
Yea I was looking at that. A local Micro Center has a deal on an M.2 500 GB though so I might change to that. I think it was only like $50-60
dense flicker
ah
main marsh
But yea just need to figure out how much graphics power I need/can get for like $200-300 roughly
I had been looking at like a RX 570 but I don't know much about AMD cards
main marsh
Wow nice. Really nice since I can get one for like $160 right now haha
wise nest
prime jay
Just a heads up I bought an msi 2080ti gaming X trio in March and I am already in my 3rd card, these things are a poa lol
Pia excuse my auto correct
warm iron
what is a pia?
fallen schooner
pain in the arse.
lone pond
poa more like doa
rapid stone
hi
I'm thinking of buying this ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390 Gaming Motherboard [ Item#: N82E16813119155 ] with two EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA GAMING cards [ Item#: 9SIAD6H8SW7744 ]and EVGA GeForce RTX NVLink SLI Bridge 3-Slot Spacing [ Item#: 9SIAD6H8KJ0993 ] but I'm afraid of the heat of the card in the top will be any problem or Will work well ?
rapid stone
@long phoenix I do not know how to install liquid cooling
long phoenix
Ah
lone pond
@rapid stone If you're worried about it you could just get 2 of these: https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-11g-p4-2484-kr/p/N82E16814487428?Description=EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA GAMING&cm_re=EVGA_GeForce_RTX_2080_Ti_FTW3_ULTRA_GAMING-_-14-487-428-_-Product which are AIO water cooled.
dreamy haven
lone pond
Haha the EVGA forums don't have much nice to say about the ftw3 hybrid cards
half sapphire
How is the normal RTX 2060? Not really interested in the Super since I would have to upgrade PSU ;-;
dense flicker
2060 is good
granite juniper
Go with rx 5700
long phoenix
I agree with @granite juniper
rough harness
I don’t.... 😂😂
oblique cypress
rx 5700 and rtx 2060 are almost identical in performance
lone pond
Hey, looking for some help. [Building a portable Mini ITX pc]
Looking for a decent graphics card. imo doesn't have to be a beast but that will at least give me average performance. looking for something between $150.00 and $250.00.
wide mango
the new modern warfare game req 8gb vram minimum
2060 only has 6gb unless you go 8gb
with super
astral shore
i just built my first pc and everything is functional except my graphics card in device manager it says there is a problem with it and says error 43
anyone know how to fix this?
turbid nymph
aight will a rx 590 work well with a r7 3800x?
wraith pasture
Shouldn't be a problem but should look into the newer cards
brisk sluice
are you able to run two graphics cards on the same motherboard and benifit from both
brisk sluice
will it work if the graphics cards are from two completely different manufacturers
F
granite juniper
It’s also not worth it
brisk sluice
ah
kk
Ill wait until next paycheck to pick up my Graphics card or just use the current one i have
I've got a GTX 1050 Ti thats doing more than it should
remote forge
sli and crossfire don't scale well
better off getting one video card
had systems recently with a 1060 6gb, 1070ti, and a vega 56
kept the vega sold the others
lone pond
Multi-gpu is great for stuff like tensorflow, folding @ home, compute, but very rarely any kind of gaming in 2019.
remote forge
agreed
obtuse elbow
Just gone my new EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3 ultra. What OC numbers are you guys running i been reading a lot of 120/1000.
obtuse elbow
Too much lol. And thanks
lone pond
Lol
shadow venture
can someone recommend a PCIe 3.0 x16 Extension Cable 300mm that will work well with a 2080ti that dosent look jank
wraith pasture
wraith pasture
it goes on sale often
lone pond
I think I got it free buying gta V for $15 off newegg
fallen schooner
cause it includes 11 items.
wraith pasture
wraith pasture
morning @long phoenix
long phoenix
Good morning
wraith pasture
long phoenix
@wraith pasture
lone pond
@shadow venture https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H7MHHP6/
dense flicker
uh oh
dense flicker
long phoenix
wraith pasture
@long phoenix
copper spear
which graphics card would you recommend to power 12 monitors?
oblique cypress
did he just say 12
long phoenix
@oblique cypress he just said 12
oblique cypress
jesus.
warped sable
Or two Titan rtx
copper spear
@runic trail i'm fine with getting 3 or 4 of the same card. not needing to do it with just one card
rustic charm
I have a 1070
serene jay
Building a pc with what knowledge I have. Going to be mainly for gaming and streaming. Probably going to get an AMD VEGA. any suggestions?
granite juniper
What budget?
serene jay
Maybe up to $300 max
granite juniper
For gpu?
serene jay
Yes
granite juniper
Live near a microcenter?
serene jay
No? What's a microcenter
granite juniper
Well if u can get an extra $30 u can get a rx 5700
serene jay
Oh. Its a store. So no
dense flicker
newegg is the actual computer heaven
dense flicker
shhhh be quiet newegg is best store
serene jay
How new is the rx 5700
dense flicker
hot
granite juniper
Like a month old
dense flicker
its really good
serene jay
So top of amd more or less
granite juniper
Yeah
serene jay
Thank you all for your help.
dense flicker
pffft get a titan rtx
primal loom
Anyone know what are good OC specs for a gigabyte auorus 2080 super
Or where to look
somber glen
what do you mean?
sinful bobcat
lol I'm late to this. But if Microcenter is so great... where is their Discord. 
sinful bobcat
No. But we also don't require people to drive to a physical store to actually get a discount.
rustic charm
It About The Experience!
Or else why even go to the movie theater
When you can watch it at home later
sinful bobcat
Makes you think hu? 😉
sinful bobcat
That's true @rustic charm
I'm just having fun because of obv reasons.
dense flicker
rustic charm
I wish I could go to a Micocenter
But the closet one to me is in L.A.
And I'm in Arizona
And I don't have a car
cursive urchin
rustic charm
If I did, then I would totally make that trip
dense flicker
closest one to me is like 45 mins away
rustic charm
Just to browse the store
sinful bobcat
Hmm. I guess that's the difference between Movie theaters and Microcenter.
rustic charm
What is a NVM?
dense flicker
nevermind
rustic charm
Oh
dense flicker
newegg should make a store in vr that translates to real life
sinful bobcat
I'm confident we can go back and fourth on the actual value and current importance of physical store, but lets keep this off of #graphics-cards
dense flicker
oh lol i totally forgot we were in here
rustic charm
Good idea
faint compass
I'd prefer to pirate a movie and eat real food instead of paying $50 in snacks, and to receive a higher selection and sales from an online store.
rustic charm
Interesting take
faint compass
36 rx 450s
runic trail
lone pond
(i dont know what to put this in) I changed my memory source (from a 1TB hard drive to a 250GB SSD) and after the reset My half dead GPU that wont play some games is now working like factory. How did this happen?
maiden night
so, I almost have enough saved, what would be better for streaming aan rx 590 or a gtx 1660?
lone pond
1660
foggy remnant
my rx 480 is at 180.f
dense flicker
fleet forge
balmy plume
bro i dare you to cook an egg on it
charred lynx
should i use msi afterburner or evga precision x1 for a evga card?
astral junco
Will there be major bottleneck if I run i5 8400 with rtx 2070 super. Will be 2560x1080p.
somber glen
your bottleneck will be your 2070 super, the higher resolution and graphics settings the more it taxes the gpu. you should be ok
@astral junco
granite juniper
uhh the 8400 would we the bottleneck...
somber glen
at 1440p?
i have a 2600x and gaming-wise its pretty equivalent to the 8400, and its nowhere near a bottleneck for me at 1440p
i could be wrong though
astral junco
i5 8400 won't be around for long. I'm slowly upgrading components
somber glen
won?
astral junco
but I won't rush into upgrading cpu if it affects performance big time
if it doesn't*
somber glen
yeah, you should be ok
@granite juniper you are correct, but when i upgraded to 1440p my gpu was the bottleneck, and i have a 2080 oc'd
granite juniper
what were the usage percent under load?
somber glen
me or @astral junco
granite juniper
you
uneven path
Is anyone familiar with the
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650? And if so, does it run well with a Ryzen 5 3600X
granite juniper
dont buy that card
It’s a joke
And id say get a 3600 non X and a 1660 or if u can rx 5700
uneven path
What is the difference, X vs non X?
tired stump
X just means factory boost
granite juniper
Just a bit better cooler
tired stump
You can get the same speeds from X and non X with oc
granite juniper
and a little higher factory clocks
uneven path
I think it was 3.7 and 4.2 boosted
granite juniper
My rule of thumb is don’t get the X unless it’s under $20 more
uneven path
I’m trying to budget build a pc and have so so many noob questions
dreamy sage
I'm right there with you Ginger
I was actually going to get a 1650 as well
Back to the drawing board I guess
uneven path
Same bro
Follow up question. If I use the Ryzen 5 3600, can I throw any graphics card at it?
Or an Intel i5 9400
granite juniper
Yes, any card will work with any brand cpu
uneven path
So I can upgrade the graphics card without replacing the cpu and mother board
granite juniper
yeah
And for the gtx 1650, go with a rx 570 (8gb if possible) instead. It beats the 1650 in nearly all titles
And here is a 570 8gb for $160 https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-570-rx-570p8dfd6/p/N82E16814150815
uneven path
Perfect. Thank you
ancient olive
ASUS ROG X570 Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi) ATX Motherboard is good one ?
astral junco
Is rtx 2070 better option over rtx 2070 super if im gaming at 1080p?
Or is rtx series even an option if im gaming strictly at 1080p
little slate
If you're looking to play titles with Ray tracing then even a 2070 super will be stressed at 1080p
somber glen
Either will be good, what cpu do you have? Depending on your cpu will determine what the bottleneck ill be
@little slate
astral junco
Its i5 8400 for me. Not worried about ray tracing. Just want to go over 80 fps for newer games
Main reason for upgrade is so I can play Cyberpunk at high+ settings so I prefer gpu who can do that at 1080p
somber glen
you should be good... should lol. cpu will probs be bottleneck but i dont know becuase cyberpunk isnt out yet
i bet it will be a demanding game, so we shall see. you should at least achieve 60
little slate
those are nowhere near actual requirements
you seriously think a game coming out next year would require a minimum of 8700k and 1080ti?
astral junco
Yeah cpu will def be a bottleneck, even for most recent games and I plan to upgrade that before cyberpunk comes out but not just yet.
little slate
also agreed, at 1080p the i5 8400 would definitely be a bottleneck
wraith pasture
quartz gull
The 8400 is not a bad CPU. I upgraded to the 8600k for single threaded application performance but the 8400 does really well in most games, even those that use a stupid amount of CPU usage
little slate
nobody is saying that it's bad, but at 1080p it will hit it's limit well before an rtx 2070 or 2070 super would
wraith pasture
i5-8600k still good for gaming but no headroom for future triple a gaming
hexed grotto
does anyone know if the strix 5700 is gonna be 2 or 2.5 slot, and also under 300mm?
it looks like it will but if not... ima have to find a dif non reference for my dan case
and also, 3600 + aftermarket 5700 or 5700 XT?
runic trail
granite juniper
The strix is probably gonna be 2.5 slot
o dan cases I love those
The challenger should probably be dual slot and under that, and 5700 xt if u can
runic trail
hexed grotto
sounds good, i love the strix design so i was hoping but i figured, if only though!
dreamy sage
Working on my first build. Motherboard first or GPU first?
Already got my case.
Corsair carbide 275r
dense flicker
dreamy sage
burnt briar
Hey, is this graphic card good? https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-590-rx-590-armor-8g/p/N82E16814137448?Item=N82E16814137448
olive flume
hey guys.. i have a r9 390 8 gb card.. was left in pc and sent to me by my friend. he didnt package it good (and its a really heavy card so it sags on motherboard) well ive tried in numerous diff pcs and the gpu is def messed up. has weird colored vertical lines and stuff displayed on screen. its physical damage.. not "fried" think its fixable?
olive flume
Doesnt seem like any damage
@rough harness it wont let me upload some of the pics cause the file is too large. Buti took the card apart ( no longer under warranty) and i cant see any damage or solder issues or anything
rough harness
Card looks physically fine... downloaded newest drivers?
No loose wires?
Proper power supply?
I zoomed in on all the pics... I can’t The any dmg.. someone else may see something I don’t
olive flume
ya thats the weird thing it looks fine... but the pci slot on board was warped
i replaced board and exact same thing
so def the card. but no i didnt check drivers.. lemme look for pics of screen with the card in
@rough harness could drivers etc do this? It was working properly last time it was tested by my close friend before sent to me. (About 2 weeks)
zinc urchin
I'd be amazed if that was only a driver problem, but I'm not too sure
olive flume
Ya its just weird cause i cant see any damage to card. The pins that go in pci slot are ever-so-warped but nothing major
Hard to tell but it has the tiniest bit of bow to it
zinc urchin
My bend on my 970 is worse, but it might, I'm not sure on this one.
Dear lord I need to dust :/
olive flume
?? lol
and yeah its weird i know it could be a tiny micro solder or some traces on the board but i cant see anything wrong...
:/
zinc urchin
Was gunna take a pic of my bow, but I'm too embarrassed by the dust to show XD
olive flume
screw it go for it lol
zinc urchin
olive flume
ya yours is def bowed more.. man idk :/ do i gotta have that gpu in my pc when i download new drivers? im using a temp gpu right now borrowed from a budy
would be nice if i could download the drivers or w/e then put the "faulty possibly" gpu in. not sure how all that stuff works tbhl ol
zinc urchin
The GPU you want to install the driver for needs to be installed at the time of the install if your just using nvidia geforce xperience and not manually downloading drivers
If ya wanna download/install them manually I can get ya the driver for whatever card ya got
someone is gunna scream at me for the ram I have XD
rough harness
Yeah, driver ain’t going to cause that... lol
And for 500$ you can get the newest and better cards.
I can see the bow in that last pic... but yeah... not bad, seen worse... but if it’s bent in the right spot....
zinc urchin
o heck, a radeon
lone pond
@olive flume Well there could be broken traces on or in the card that run between components. Hopefully it's something easy to fix with a soldering iron like a broken solder point. You could take a magnifying glass and comb over every square inch of the card and look for a broken solder point. Here's what they look like, notice the circular cracks around the soldered pins.
lone pond
Doesn't a 390 get beaten handily by a 580? Also way less power consumption