#graphics-cards

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dense flicker
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heres a water block for it

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and that one works with any AORUS 2080Ti

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this one works with any AORUS 2080

little slate
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EK makes blocks for majority of pcbs it looks like, mostly wondering if some cards are better than others for gaming level overclock (not looking for records or anything)

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Or if they're mostly the same outside of different coolers

dense flicker
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oh

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i get u

little slate
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I've always used evga in the past because of their customer service mostly

dense flicker
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evga is a good brand

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hm

little slate
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But even just evga, they've got like 10 different versions of each gpu

dense flicker
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i think at their core they have the same pcb design

little slate
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I see, I'll probably go for the cheapest then that EK makes a block for

dense flicker
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the processors are all the same

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so i dont think it matters too much

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look for one that looks easy to take apart

little slate
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Good point

summer wren
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Which is better? Gtx 1070 or Rtx 2060?

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Building a PC for my brother..

lone pond
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Rtx 2060

obtuse spindle
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2060 for sure yeah

lone pond
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I just watched a comparison between the 2060 and 1080ti and 2060 had slightly worse performance

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Maybe 5%

obtuse spindle
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Yeah its close

summer wren
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Really?

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But i read some people say 1070 is better... So dunno what to believe

obtuse spindle
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see for yourself

summer wren
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Okay thanks ill look into it 😊

obtuse spindle
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bear in mind the 2060 is always a bit future proof in its way

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because it does have ray tracing capabilities and it's on a new architecture

summer wren
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Nice...how much do they go for?

lone pond
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2060 is about 360€

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Who wanna buy a gtx 1060 Mini ITX ?

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I think

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Second hand tho

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@lone pond does it fit in a laptop?

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Nah

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😤

summer wren
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Should i go for ryzen or intel?

obtuse spindle
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depends on budget, really

summer wren
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Around $350-450?

lone pond
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Intel.

grand pelican
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Singlecore intel is much better, which means its much better for gaming than Ryzen

lone pond
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Even if u gonna stream take intel

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Cuz 450$ is enough to get a good intel CPU means- gaming+multi prograams

obtuse spindle
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now is that $350 - $450 for the entire build?

summer wren
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@obtuse spindle 😂

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Nah man

obtuse spindle
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so for the CPU, RAM and motherboard?

summer wren
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Around 1100-1200

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Total

obtuse spindle
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ah

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then yeah you could probably fit an 8700k in

grand pelican
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@lone pond umm Ryzen 2800 can do better at multitasking tbh

obtuse spindle
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for sure

grand pelican
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But neither of them will lag a single bit even if you stream imo

obtuse spindle
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yeah the Ryzen 7 chips will handle it fine

grand pelican
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definitely

obtuse spindle
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just a sec, i'll get a parts list

summer wren
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Ryzen might be a bit less expensive than intel?

obtuse spindle
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not by a large margin, no

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i misread

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by a large margin yes

grand pelican
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xd

obtuse spindle
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it's 5 am here

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i've been up since 10am yesterday

grand pelican
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3:56 here

summer wren
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You guys gotta sleep man

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😪😪

grand pelican
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I need to, I'll be selling ram sticks at 10am

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but i cant sleep

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smh

obtuse spindle
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same i need to

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i have to work at 10

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but it's hot af

grand pelican
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lol here is cold af even if we don't have winter

obtuse spindle
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there you go

summer wren
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Where are u guys from?

obtuse spindle
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i'm from south carolina

grand pelican
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Im from panama

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central america

summer wren
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Woah

wintry lagoon
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minnesota reporting in

summer wren
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How many fan header does the board have?

obtuse spindle
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1 CPU and 3 SYS

grand pelican
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t h i c c build

summer wren
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Yup... Looks nice

little slate
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SATA ssd 😩

fluid bolt
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60$ for 760hawk?

pallid musk
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@fluid bolt if your asking not a bad price but still outdated. probably on par with 1050 or rx 560

obtuse spindle
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you can get a 960 for about the same price

glossy owl
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Whats your guys opinions on getting a rtx 2060? I have a 1060 3gb. Is it worth getting the 2060? I kinda want RTX too.

dense flicker
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@glossy owl

glossy owl
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yee

dense flicker
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the RTX 2060 is not good for rtx

glossy owl
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yee but the other ones are kinda to expensive

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it can still run it

dense flicker
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it can

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but you gotta turn down a lot of other stuff

glossy owl
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yee ok

dense flicker
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but

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just because you get an rtx card doesnt mean you have to use rtx

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you can keep it off

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the rtx 2060 is better in performance than the 1070

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so its still a great graphics card

glossy owl
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so would you reccomend me getting the 2060 or getting somethin else?

dense flicker
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well

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depends

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actually no

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id say the 2060 is a good upgrade all around

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but wait

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i forgot

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@glossy owl

glossy owl
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yee

dense flicker
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Nvidia is making new cards, and the cost of current RTX cards is gonna drop

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wait for taht

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that*

glossy owl
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oh yee true

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ok

dense flicker
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if you really want ray tracing go with a 2070 or better

little slate
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Honestly in terms of ray tracing and all those new nvidia features, even the RTX 2070 is practically useless unless you're satisfied at playing at sub 60 fps and 1080p resolution. The 2060 and 2070 offer good performance for the price, but you shouldn't be buying them for ray tracing

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if you want to take advantage of that, you need to go for at least the 2080

dense flicker
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yeah

lone pond
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the 2080 shouldn't have any bottleneck with the 7700K correct

wraith pasture
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Nope

lone pond
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aight

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also would a 1660 or 1660 ti be better for a 2400g

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my friend wants to add a GPU into his system

wraith pasture
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If he sticks to 1080p it shouldn't be a problem unless the game is heavily physics based calculations

lone pond
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yeah he's going 1080p

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he also wants to play battlefield v

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so maybe the 1660ti would be better?

novel scaffold
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I would say yes.

lone pond
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kk

novel scaffold
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I haven't tested it, but the price is pretty decent.

lone pond
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aight

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thanks

novel scaffold
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If I hadn't bought my RX 580, I would've bought that.

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But my GPU is a few months old.

lone pond
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i see

novel scaffold
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So, it wasn't out at the time

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But this one Clocks well, because Sapphire is a pretty good brand.

lone pond
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does sapphire have nvidia cards

novel scaffold
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Nope

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Just AMD

lone pond
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i see

manic magnet
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hey yall, so right now i have in my setup an i5 7600k with a 1050 ti, i would like to upgrade my graphics card maybe but idk what to get, suggestions?

novel scaffold
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Nitro+ is the type that I have.

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Oh, you'll love this.

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Just recommended to my friend to get an RX 570.

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They hover around $150, but you also get The Division 2 Gold Edition and World War Z.

lone pond
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oh

novel scaffold
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I've seen some benchmarks, I've seen it almost double frames in quite some games.

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And, a few bucks for the premium of Sapphire is recommended.

lone pond
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alright

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my friend's case is pretty small tho

novel scaffold
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Ah, that's a slight issue then.

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You're stuck with lower-end cards if the case is small.

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When push comes to shove, get a new case.

lone pond
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does sapphire have any itx cards

novel scaffold
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I mean, they have a variety.

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I haven't seen 'em all.

lone pond
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oh he got a prebuilt from microcenter lol

novel scaffold
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Yikes.

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I Built mine from the ground up.

lone pond
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he was originally gonna build one but his dad decided to go cheap

novel scaffold
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Had Vega 11 iGPU before the RX 580.

lone pond
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his dad also said that he didn't need a GPU for gaming for some apparent reason

novel scaffold
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You don't ever go cheap with stuff like this.

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If you're going to go down with prices, you bet it better be for an experiment

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Pre-Builts have various short-comings that are exposed over time.

lone pond
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yeah

novel scaffold
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Like, you can't upgrade

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Or, manufacturers can put software into the computer.

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If it's a desktop that's made for offices, then that's the only kind of pre-built that you want

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Low power consumption and all that.

lone pond
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funny thing is

novel scaffold
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But for gaming, you should at least do research into individual parts.

lone pond
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he wants to get an NZXT prebuilt soon for his streaming PC

novel scaffold
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Meh.

lone pond
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instead of building one

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he claims that building one will take too long

novel scaffold
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If you're gonna go pre-built, you at least target for things like NZXT and not Wal-mart.

lone pond
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yeah

novel scaffold
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Takes too long?

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Oh, well.

lone pond
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that's what he says

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

novel scaffold
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If you start off, it can take a week of research.

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But that week is worth saving $200 and having more performance.

obtuse spindle
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there are a ton of great guides out there

lone pond
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it took me MONTHS of research to finally build one

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and i didn't know about PC part picker back then

obtuse spindle
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pc part picker, my dude

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it won't let you choose incompatible parts

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then you can tailor to your own budget

novel scaffold
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I remember, someone nabbed my Mobo and I think case when I first ordered my PC parts...

lone pond
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i had to choose all my parts without pc partpicker and make everything compatible

novel scaffold
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Yeah, I should've used it for my first build.

lone pond
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so i went through some extra challenges

novel scaffold
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Yup, I had to wait a week to get my PC actually running

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And, SSD's make all the difference

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Especially with StoreMI

lone pond
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it took me about a week to build mine as well

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i only did a little bit per day tho

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my dad actually underestimated me and thought that it would take me the entire summer to build my PC

novel scaffold
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Phew

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You should take that much time to ensure you get bang for your buck, especially for a first build

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But, I mean, you eventually learn after you build your PC and use it that you notice, "Man, I really should've waited for that part!"

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I know that I paid $290 for an Rx 580 That now goes for $190

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For that price, I could get a Vega 56 that I might go for.

lone pond
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i see

novel scaffold
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So, monitor prices

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And always look at news outlets

lone pond
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like when i first built my PC i bought a used 960 2gb from my friend and then i upgraded to a 2060

novel scaffold
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Phew

lone pond
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in march

novel scaffold
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Marching...

lone pond
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i'll just be upgrading my fans and RAM soon and then i will not be making anymore upgrades

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i'll use it for a few more years and then i'll build a new system

novel scaffold
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Yeah, I plan on getting a Vega 56 After the Release of Navi, unless it's really compelling

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Then I'd upgrade my CPU to the 3000 Series

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To eliminate bottlenecks

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I think my Mobo supports PCIe 4.0, because I went to flash Bios the other day and saw a beta.

winter mango
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Consider the 1660ti while considering the vega 56 my friend. 1660ti is less power hungry while providing roughly the same performance

novel scaffold
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I've seen better performance from the Vega 56.

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But yeah, Power.

oblique cypress
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lol

winter mango
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I've also seen some performance charts favoring the vega 56, it's why recommended one to a personal friend building his first rig but just some things to keep in mind

novel scaffold
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Mhm.

oblique cypress
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ima just upgrade my fans and storage and ill be good for most of the time throughout college

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and the last 2 years of highschool

novel scaffold
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Yeah, I need more storage...

winter mango
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Ssds are coming down in price

lone pond
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i was actually originally gonna upgrade to the rtx super cards but then i thought about it and decided that it wouldn't make sense to do so because i literally upgraded to a brand new GPU just 3 months ago

oblique cypress
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i just gotta get a better mousepad and that's about it after pc upgrades

novel scaffold
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I have a WD Blue 250Gb ssd, works great.

oblique cypress
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lol

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i have a 480gb

novel scaffold
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But Samsung is recommended for the Warranties.

oblique cypress
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have like 60gigs left

lone pond
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i have a 250gb wd blue ssd as well as a 1tb wd blue hdd

novel scaffold
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I Opened up Gmod in 20 Seconds, and it's even on my HDD.

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Same\

winter mango
novel scaffold
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But, I won't diverge that far...

winter mango
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V good deal on a 1tb ssd

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Not the fastest ssd but an ssd nonetheless

novel scaffold
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Yup

lone pond
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i started running low on storage on my SSD due to the inclusion of more games so when i upgraded my GPU i also added a 1TB intel 660p SSD

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as well as avermedia's 4k capture card

oblique cypress
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guys

winter mango
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Hm?

oblique cypress
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should i go for another sata ssd for 1tb or just get an m.2 ssd for 1tb

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they're like 20-30 bucks away from each other in price

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what are your suggestions

winter mango
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Depends on the m.2. Is it a nvme m.2?

oblique cypress
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nand

winter mango
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Pcie supported m.2?

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Oh nand. So it's gonna be roughly the same speed as a sata m.2

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Whichever one has better reads and writes for the dollar

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Imo

oblique cypress
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the one im lookin at is the wd and is 110

winter mango
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M.2?

oblique cypress
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my mb supports 1 Ultra M.2 (PCIe Gen3 x4), 1 M.2 (SATA3)

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the rest is sata 3

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it'll fit right?

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m.2 ssds are the only thing i dont know TOO much aboutr

winter mango
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Should support it.

oblique cypress
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it supports m key type and numbers

winter mango
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You just wont be getting the MOST out of your pcie gen 3 slot.

oblique cypress
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which includes the m.2 ssd im looking at

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the number thing

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not sure what difference between nvme and and sata is though

winter mango
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Nvme is just faster and has a slightly different contacts but it'll fit in any m.2 slot. Someone check me on that but pretty sure

novel scaffold
winter mango
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Depending on the slot, you could be taking full advantage of the nvme speeds. If it's just a sata m.2 slot, you wont be running at the max potential reads and writes of an nvme. It'll cap out at sata speeds.

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Pcie gen3 will support nvme ssds and in turn give you faster performance.

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Also this is the GPU chat lol

oblique cypress
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it supports pcie gen 3

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oh yeah lol

novel scaffold
manic magnet
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what is the best bang for your buck gpu for 1080p gaming?

oblique cypress
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rx 570

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hands down.

manic magnet
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@oblique cypress is that much better than the 1050 ti? thats what i have

oblique cypress
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yeah

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much better

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like 140 you can get one

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and outperforms 1050 ti through the roof

manic magnet
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will it work well with a i5 7600k?

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@oblique cypress

oblique cypress
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it works yes

winter mango
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i'd also look into a 1060 now that they are heavily discounted from msrp

neon locust
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How cheap are 1060s now?

winter mango
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3gb model can be found for 130 and the 6gb model can be found for 180

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on newegg

neon locust
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Is it better than an rx 580?

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8gb

winter mango
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eh, i'd say they're around the same performance. the 580 has a higher power comsumption.

oblique cypress
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eh

winter mango
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i'd look at benchmark charts and so on

neon locust
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Ok

oblique cypress
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they're the same basically

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just depends on price for you

neon locust
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Thanks

novel scaffold
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If you get AMD Cards, I'd recommend Sapphire for the brand.

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My RX 580 Clocks the Ram at the Max 2250 Mhz.

obtuse spindle
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sapphire's a great brand for GPUs yeah

faint apex
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Ive Got a MSI Radeon RX-470 ARMOUR OC 8gb and I got it clocked at 1800mhz

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stock is 1200 some mhz

winter mango
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that's kinda insane considering my 480 only gets up to 1440mhz stable

novel scaffold
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Phew, that's a good clock

faint apex
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Ive got massive air cooling through the case. My CPU is liquid cooled

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How i managed 1800mhz i have no clue but thats what i got it at and its stable

novel scaffold
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Do you have any benchmarks?

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I'd like to see it perform.

faint apex
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No i dont have any saved. Im still running ddr3 ram and a AMD A10-6700 oc to 4.6ghz

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So once i get a new build hopefully i can get some benchmarks on the card

novel scaffold
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Phew.

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Are you gonna build it?

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And, it's 1800 On the Core, right?

faint apex
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Yeah i plan on building my new rig when i have the money. Im not sure if its 1800 on the core or not. Ive seen speeds of 1800 on it though

novel scaffold
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How much are you spending?

faint apex
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  1. Asus rog strix b450-f motherboard, amd ryzen 7 2700x ,16gb ddr4 gskill tridentz rgb, bitspower cpu waterblock western digital 250gb NVME M.2 ssd
novel scaffold
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Phew.

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If I had more money, I'd do more stuff.

faint apex
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Im reusing my gpu and 5 hdd but migrating os over to the nvme drive

novel scaffold
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Yeah, it's worth it for SSD's.

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I noticed a lot more performance in general.

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I started off with the Standard HDD

faint apex
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Yeah ive got 5 of them

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Why junk them if they still run

bright geyser
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2700x doesnt need a water block

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use the stock cooler

jagged tapir
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Do you think it's worth to buy the zotac 2080 right now

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Its going for $650 and idk if I should buy now or wait later

granite juniper
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It’s a pretty good deal, but idk with the supers coming out somewhat soon there could be better sales

jagged tapir
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Do you know what date the supers will come put

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Out

granite juniper
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No

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They haven’t released a lot about them

jagged tapir
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Eeeee this is a hard decision

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Because I'd love to start building a new PC around mid July if possible

tawny citrus
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Question if anybody can answer it can I use an RTX 2080 gigabyte card with another brand card with the nv link? Or do they have to he the same exact cards or just brand?

winter mango
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good question.

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i remember that if you try to sli two different brand cards, suppose 1070s from two different brands, you could do it, it would just default the clocks to the slower card but i'm unsure whether the same applies to nvlink

obtuse spindle
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yes you can

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it'll just clock down to the value of the weaker card

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so let's say that the Gigabyte card has a 1750MHz core clock

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and the other one has a 1650Mhz core clock

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they'll both run at the lower of the 2 values

fallen schooner
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as long as they are both 2080s

obtuse spindle
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yeah

fallen schooner
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branding doesn't matter.

tawny citrus
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Thanks have an awesome day

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Oops thanks matt

jagged tapir
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I am conflicted on whether to buy the zotac 2080 right now while it's on sale or wait until the new GPU's come out so older cards get cheaper

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eeeeeeeeeeeeeee

obtuse spindle
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the question is

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can you wait?

jagged tapir
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Lmao true, i have no idea when the supers will come out

obtuse spindle
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supposedly

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on the 21st of june

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so a couple of days from now

jagged tapir
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Hmm I see

obtuse spindle
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probably to head off AMD's Navi launch

jagged tapir
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If i wait, do you think the older ones will drop prices?

obtuse spindle
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yeah

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that's what the rumors say anyway

violet kite
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As far as I've seen, GPU prices are really high in the summer, and dip down right before black friday.

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Maybe wait until around then?

jagged tapir
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phew that's p far

violet kite
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Like a month before black friday is when I see GPUs on sale left and right and nothing is safe from the cheap wave.

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Black friday always leaves me feeling jipped when it comes to GPUs.

jagged tapir
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I see I see

violet kite
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Black friday sales are a scam, too, btw.

fervent crest
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oof

violet kite
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I've seen 'sales' go off and the price goes back up to previous, then two weeks later plummet as the new cards release for Christmas or what have you.

jagged tapir
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I think i'm gonna wait and hopefully the gpu will drop price

bright geyser
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2080 is 700$ anyway

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only 50$ saving

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id wait to see what this "super" launch is all about

wraith pasture
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wait for the super cards to come out

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everyone is saying the vanila cards (older rtx cards) will go cheaper

oblique cypress
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it prob will

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most stuff goes down a bit when new things are released anyways

jagged tapir
lone pond
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rip i bought a 2060 in march

little slate
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Aren't the supers only going to be 2080 and 2080ti?

wraith pasture
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2070 and 2060 also

winter mango
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^

oblique cypress
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^

granite juniper
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obtuse spindle
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main mauve
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^

muted elbow
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^

oblique cypress
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you ruined the thread smh

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@muted elbow =bad

obtuse spindle
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this freakin' guy

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lmao

muted elbow
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i don't see the issue here

oblique cypress
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freaking N0RMI3

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:d

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you better edit it b0y

granite juniper
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angrey

oblique cypress
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d1sappo1nt3D

tender wraith
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If I am going to be watercooling, should I get a 2080ti black or 2080ti XC? From my research I have found that the only difference is the 300 vs 300a chip. So, not sure its worth the price difference when I could OC the black at a stable rate.

granite juniper
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Uhhhcries in broke

tender wraith
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lol

lost estuary
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oof I felt that cry. too relatable

tender wraith
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I only have the money because of the hurricane that wrecked my house and destroyed all my stuff.

dreamy haven
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bittersweet reimbursement

oblique cypress
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yeah.

cedar perch
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I'm trying to mod a dell optiplex 990, could you guys suggest a cheap gpu for me. It has 8gb ddr3 and a i7-2600.

obtuse spindle
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is it the small form factor version?

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or is it the normal mid tower version?

cedar perch
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normal mid tower

obtuse spindle
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good stuff

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don't skimp on the power supply

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and put something like an RX580 in there

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or a 1060 if you can find one cheap

cedar perch
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yea im looking for the 1060

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i have a rx 580 but its too big

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it blocks all the sata ports

obtuse spindle
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ah, gotcha

dreamy haven
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bummer

obtuse spindle
cedar perch
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yea

obtuse spindle
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bear in mind that's the 3GB version

cedar perch
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yea

obtuse spindle
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that's the full 6GB

cedar perch
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i dont think it will preform too bad im mostly looking to play games like fortnite, r6, and csgo.

obtuse spindle
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yeah, the 2600 is still fine tbh

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don't let these guys make you think you need the latest and greatest

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just for a comparison

cedar perch
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yea

obtuse spindle
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here's a short gameplay clip i did on Siege

cedar perch
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should i go for the 3gb or 6? i only have 8 gb of ram

obtuse spindle
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with my i7-3770 and 1060

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6GB all the way

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don't mind that i'm god awful at siege tho

cedar perch
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lol its ok, i havent played yet i plan to start playing with this setup.

obtuse spindle
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a 2600 and 1060 should run it near max at well above 60FPS

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with fortnite you'll have to turn it down some

cedar perch
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should i look for a used 1060 or new?

obtuse spindle
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eeehhhh, i'd look at the used market

cedar perch
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ok

obtuse spindle
#

with the 2000 series of cards, people are selling them cheap

cedar perch
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thats a relief, i plan to sell the 580 for around 110

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so hopefully it pays for most of the 1060

quartz gull
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Used 1060s are pretty good

winter mango
#

you can probably get a bit more than 110.

obtuse spindle
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yeah

quartz gull
#

Got me a 1060 and I get 75 fps in games like bfv on ultra settings

obtuse spindle
#

here's a short clip i did of DOOM 2k16

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same setup

cedar perch
#

whats a good price for a used 580

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its a powercolor red devil 8gb

obtuse spindle
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they're going for up to like $120

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sometimes more

winter mango
#

i've seen some go anywhere from 110 - 140 just browsing ebay

cedar perch
#

so i might try 130 then

winter mango
#

found a red devil rx 580 for 115

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i'd try 120 or 125? milk as much money as possible?

cedar perch
#

yea, i dont really wanna pay too much extra for a 1060

obtuse spindle
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yeah

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and imma be 💯 with you

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with that CPU don't go any higher than the 1060 6GB

cedar perch
#

alright

obtuse spindle
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it'll be a bottleneck

cedar perch
#

im kind of new to computers

obtuse spindle
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that's fine, we're here to help

cedar perch
#

if i wanted to, with the 990, could i upgrade the cpu too

obtuse spindle
#

technically

cedar perch
#

like a ryzen 5 2600

obtuse spindle
#

that's a different socket type

#

the highest tiered CPU that could go in that board is a i7-3770

cedar perch
#

ok

winter mango
#

did you figure out whether the tower is a sff or a mid sized tower?

obtuse spindle
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mid size

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which is fine, that's a nice little case

winter mango
#

that'll make finding a gpu a lot easier lol

obtuse spindle
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yeah that's why i asked LUL

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i proced the board out of a SFF 990 for my plex server

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what a pain, because it's so propreitary

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now i just run plex off my 3770 rig

winter mango
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@cedar perch EVGA 1060 6gb for like, 140 ish used on ebay.

cedar perch
#

i was so happy when i managed to get the 580 in there and then i looked and all the sata cables were blocked

winter mango
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won't be paying for much if you can sell the 580 for 120

cedar perch
#

ok thats good

obtuse spindle
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👀

winter mango
#

heck i just saw that listing

obtuse spindle
#

that's a good deal tbh

winter mango
#

👀

obtuse spindle
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too bad that's a bid

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that thing's gonna go mad high

winter mango
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yeah...

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ya know... that's a special boi right there. also wasn't even aware the 980ti came in a 6gb variant... if there's anything sketchier than how this caught fire, it's that listing description

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obtuse spindle
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he can keep it

quartz gull
#

This is why we clean dust filters and used compressed air on our builds

obtuse spindle
#

yeah...

somber torrent
#

So who is going to buy the super 2080?

dense flicker
#

nah bb

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its all about that 2080ti super

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jk that was a joke

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titan rtx super

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huh i really did just say 'jk that was a joke'

obtuse spindle
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we do live in a society smh

wintry lagoon
#

I have a radeon r9 280. Please roast me. Im upgrading to RTX2070

echo kraken
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I'll take it over my gtx 1050

obtuse spindle
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No roast needed the 280 was a fine card for its time

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And the 1050 was the value champ for a while there

oblique cypress
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a while

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until the rx 570 came along

echo kraken
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yeah, $100 new not bad

wintry lagoon
#

then maybe my FX 8370 is what needs to be roasted

obtuse spindle
echo kraken
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$90 with rebate from newegg of course

obtuse spindle
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Naahhh

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The FX series was affordable

oblique cypress
#

old af

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but affordable

wintry lagoon
#

right

obtuse spindle
#

It was affordable for the time too

wintry lagoon
#

I really need an upgrade though

oblique cypress
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when i had a budget that was almost half my pc right now, i considered it

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ikr sad

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the FX

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lamo

obtuse spindle
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Sure they were a bit slower but they did fine for most things

oblique cypress
#

gaming prob nope

wintry lagoon
#

lol it did last me this long

echo kraken
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my i3 2100 has lasted me 8 years lmfao

obtuse spindle
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They ran games of their time and a few years after just fine

oblique cypress
#

mhm

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ok anyways this is turning into cpu channel

wintry lagoon
#

yeah the problem is my new games. It CHUGS

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right. my bad.

obtuse spindle
#

Also language

wintry lagoon
#

I was just curious how much crap I would get for having a r9 280 still

obtuse spindle
wintry lagoon
#

woops

obtuse spindle
#

It's all good just edit the messages

oblique cypress
#

i saw it

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before that boi edited it

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you're supposed to say bad word that means poopie translated for the kiddies

wintry lagoon
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lmfao

jagged tapir
#

Shart

wintry lagoon
#

shiz?

oblique cypress
#

excuse me

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are you referring to bodily fluids other than peepee or poopoo

#

you are is getting banned you infidel

wraith pasture
oblique cypress
#

i call upon thee thot

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THE0000000000000000000000000000000000000000

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begone th0t

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nah joking

wintry lagoon
#

😩

granite juniper
#

🤔

lost estuary
#

anyone know of a way for me upgrade my card without buying a new one? I have a couple bad DisplayPort ports and still have warranty. Thinking of swapping it and wondering if there's a way to pay for a difference in upgrade. MSI 1060 6GB

dense flicker
#

overclocking maybe?

lost estuary
#

huh?

obtuse spindle
#

get a displayport hub

lost estuary
#

I'm trying to upgrade it lol

obtuse spindle
#

MSI may be willing to RMA it for you

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and it's pretty hard to come by 1060s these days

lost estuary
#

yea they will but I wonder if they'll let me pay a difference to upgrade

obtuse spindle
#

i know EVGA didn't when they swapped my cards out

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they just did it

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hmm, i wonder

lost estuary
#

cards are so expensive to keep buying and upgrading

obtuse spindle
#

for sure

lost estuary
#

I'm just kinda waiting a little longer until the 10 series are really being phased out

obtuse spindle
#

it's getting harder and harder to find new 10 series cards

dense flicker
#

its gonna be a bit before theyre phased out in my opinion

obtuse spindle
#

they've already stopped manufacturing them

dense flicker
#

all of them??

lost estuary
#

it's basically gonna be when nvidia releases a new series lol

obtuse spindle
#

yeah, they stopped mid year last year afaik

quartz gull
#

Buy a used gtx 1060 for $120-140

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And sell your broken one at a steep discount

static haven
dense flicker
#

looks good i think

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idk tho

violet kite
#

Only thing I'd recommend is seeing if you can get it running first.

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And run a benchmark on it.

dense flicker
#

@obtuse spindle you think 410 is a good price for a lightly used 1080?

violet kite
#

Otherwise it's iffy buying piece parts from people, if it's truly lightly used, I'd go for it.

obtuse spindle
#

That's a good price

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I'd jump on it

violet kite
#

👍

static haven
#

I mean its eBay "customer satisfaction" guaranteed.

violet kite
#

Oh dang.

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That's good price then.

static haven
#

Okay thanks guys

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This should be good to pair with a Ryzen 7?

violet kite
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Definitely.

dense flicker
#

for sure

violet kite
#

I use this for stuff like that.

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It's vague, but helpful.

dense flicker
violet kite
#

That's nearly perfect, there won't be much of a bottleneck if they're both running in full (rarely happens).

static haven
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So what does that mean

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The lower the betteR?

violet kite
#

A bottleneck basically means that one is limiting the power of the other since it can't fully utilize the power that the other has.

dense flicker
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theyre both powerful so they wont affect eachothers performance

violet kite
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Yup.

dense flicker
violet kite
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KEK

dense flicker
#

good god

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imagine pairing a celeron with a 2080ti

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what a nightmare

violet kite
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"So guys, I spent all my money on a GPU...all I have is this celeron- is there anything I can do to fix it . . ."

dense flicker
#

sell the 2080ti and build an entire computer using just the money you got from selling it

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anyways sleep time

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gn

obtuse spindle
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Night zack

dense flicker
#

cya later

static haven
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Night zack . thank you btw

eager merlin
#

Night zackypoopoo

echo kraken
#

Nonononoonnono

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410 is $80+ more than you should be paying for a used 1080

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They average around 300-330 on the used market

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@static haven there a many other 1080s being sold for 300-330 on ebay rn that I would reccomend over that for 410

static haven
#

Oh dang really?

little slate
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I wouldn't recommend a 1080 with a reference cooler

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They had a lot of overheating issues

reef isle
#

no

jagged tapir
granite juniper
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hmmmmmmmmmmm

dense flicker
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6gb 1080ti lol

winter mango
#

-200iq

obtuse spindle
#

NVIDIA wants to know your location

dense dew
#

Hey guys i would like some feedback on my build i have been working on it for a few weeks. yeah up until 2:00 am working on it. Ive done insane amount of research on every single detail. So here it is. PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x4YKWD

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($216.85 @ OutletPC)

CPU Cooler: Corsair - H115i PRO 55.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.90 @ OutletPC)

Thermal Compound: ARCTIC - MX-4 2019 Edition 4 g Thermal Paste ($6.39 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.89 @ OutletPC)

Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($99.89 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: Asus - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card ($494.99 @ Newegg)

Case: Corsair - 450D ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($106.23 @ OutletPC)

Case Fan: Corsair - ML120 75 CFM 120 mm Fans ($27.95 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair - ML120 75 CFM 120 mm Fans ($27.95 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair - ML120 PRO RGB (3 pack w/Lighting Node PRO) 47.3 CFM 120 mm Fans ($100.50 @ OutletPC)

Custom: BitFenix ALCHEMY 2.0 PSU CABLE KIT for EVGA SuperNOVA Power Supply, ($78.29 @ Amazon)

Total: $1553.71

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Srry i only meant to paste in the link sorry for the big chat

harsh tundra
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should poot a ssd into that

wraith pasture
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@dense dew 3rd get ryzen is coming out in 2 1/2 weeks so you could most likely get a 2nd gen ryzen for cheaper and it would fit that board too

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the 1800x is beastly but the 2700x will benefit you a lot more

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for around the same price

dense dew
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Yeah i know theo i just put that in there for now

harsh tundra
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the 2700x is better and the price is dropping big time

wraith pasture
#

also ryzen benefits better off faster r am, you picked ddr4-3200 cas16, cas14 or lower would be good for it.

dense dew
#

Panther i dont see the big point for an ssd beside boot times but if i have the money i will slap one in there

worldly crow
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i have a ryzen 7 1700 its better to instead wait 2 weeks and get the 3800x like i am

wraith pasture
#

SSD is really good for installation ie. extremely long windows update times

dense dew
#

Theo what do you mean?

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On the ram

wraith pasture
#

what takes an hour with your mechanical drive will only take a few min on ssd for windows update

dense dew
#

Ok

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I will look into one

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Would a 250gb be good?

wraith pasture
#

for an os and basic apps drive yes, 250gb is enough

worldly crow
#

i have my windows on a intel 530 series ssd 128gb updates and load times are soooo short now

dense dew
#

Ok

harsh tundra
#

if you are gaming the load times a re mutch faster too

dense dew
#

Theo what did you mean when you were talking aboit ryzen and ram

worldly crow
#

i have my game drive a m.2 even better than regular ssd for gaming

wraith pasture
#

also the lower the cas latency the faster the ram is but don't mistake 3000 cas14 to be faster than 3200 cas16, the speed is still more important in cas, a 3200 cas14 or lower will benefit you a lot if you dont mind a little bit more speed for ryzen

dense dew
#

What if i get a 1 or 2 tb ssd and a 128 ssd

wraith pasture
#

tldr, ddr-3200 cas14, maybe get

worldly crow
#

its expensive tho

dense dew
#

Im sorry but what does cas14 and stuff

wraith pasture
#

if you plan to use a lot of heavy productivity apps then sure, larger ssd

worldly crow
#

better timings

dense dew
#

Oh ok

wraith pasture
worldly crow
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i got 16 cause it was cheaper

harsh tundra
#

all i have 2 1 tb. m.2 but i know that is not cheep

dense dew
#

21tb?!?!

wraith pasture
#

2x 1TB

dense dew
#

Ph

wraith pasture
#

lolol

worldly crow
#

he has 2 1tb drives

harsh tundra
#

two 1 tb. drives

dense dew
#

Oh ok

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So theo

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I will look at that link

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But can you tell me what i should get

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Ill brb

worldly crow
#

for my ryzen i use 3200 mhz 16gb 2x8gb 16 cas tridentz rgb

wraith pasture
#

if money is an issue just stick to ddr-3200 cas15 or 16, but cas 14 is nice for 3200

worldly crow
#

are they still over 200 theo??

wraith pasture
#

memory is cheap now, i dont know current prices

worldly crow
#

the 3200 14?

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ah

wraith pasture
#

anyways

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big take away here is

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if you plan to overclock, lower cas the better

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and ryzen loves lower cas

dense dew
#

Oh ok

harsh tundra
dense dew
#

So i should stick with what i have?

wraith pasture
#

if money is an issue yeah

dense dew
#

Ok

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But if money wasnt what should i get

wraith pasture
#

its literally just a small small small performance increase

dense dew
#

Oh ok

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So not really needed?

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Just something extra

wraith pasture
#

yeah, if you just use your pc for gaming you'll prob wont care much about it

dense dew
#

Alright

harsh tundra
dense dew
#

Any other suggestions? So far ive got “get a ssd”

worldly crow
dense dew
#

Theo so if i wanted better ram for my ryzen what should i do. What am i looking for in a ram thats higher or lower

granite juniper
#

Lower cas

dense dew
#

Ok

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Does cas stand for something?

granite juniper
#

But anything under 16 cas for 3200 gets pricey fast

wraith pasture
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don't go below ddr4-3200 for speed, lower cas the better

dense dew
#

Ok

wraith pasture
#

Column Access Strobe

worldly crow
#

i run a ryzen 7 1700 and gtx 1070 milky what you have picked should be great for you. i play my games at 4k high settings no issues

dense dew
#

That helps

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Awesome Otroud

harsh tundra
dense dew
#

Ok

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Thank you guys

wraith pasture
worldly crow
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yea thats hella cheap lol

dense dew
#

I want more of a common brand cause you know thats what i feel i can trust to be more high quality and stuff

worldly crow
#

i use intel m.2's

wraith pasture
#

samsung evo 970, intels, wd_black or wd_blue

worldly crow
harsh tundra
#

i used that in both of my kids build and it is great with a goog warenty too

dense dew
#

Alright i will look into changing up some storage and looking into lower “cas” for my ram?

worldly crow
#

if i had to choose id sget intel or samsung

dense dew
#

Thats awesome that you game with your kids

wraith pasture
dense dew
#

Yeah imma stick with samsung

worldly crow
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only upgrades i could use would be the 12 core ryzen 7 coming out and a rtx 2070

wraith pasture
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@dense dew bunch of ssd deals there

dense dew
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Yeah i have a calendar thing set for the release of the 3rd gen

harsh tundra
#

We play wow and fortnight and rust together

wraith pasture
#

from today's email

worldly crow
#

do we know when new motherboards are releasing for x570?

dense dew
#

Ok thx

harsh tundra
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july 7

worldly crow
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theyre supposed to release before the cpus thop

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the 660p intels werent that fast. the 760 are alot faster in read/write speeds

dense dew
#

Do you think i can “@“ newegg and tell them to put a “pcpartpicker” chat channel so we aren’t talking about motherboards in graphic cards

harsh tundra
#

i know that is the day fore sure for gigabyte

wraith pasture
dense dew
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Yeah i know theo but im talking about all pc part channel

wraith pasture
#

oh, don't worry about it

dense dew
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Ok

wraith pasture
#

infact posting this stuff on general is fine too

dense dew
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Oh ok

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I thought that was just like chatting

wraith pasture
#

this is a pc and electronics discord anyways

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LOL

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nah, you're fine

dense dew
#

Thank you guys. Im glad i joined this discord 😂

harsh tundra
#

yw

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gtg kids are ready to start

dense dew
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Is that good?

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Bit pricey but i can do it

obtuse spindle
#

G.Skill is a great RAM maker

worldly crow
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its good ram

wraith pasture
#

pricy because of rgb, otherwise it's very fast and lifetime warranty

worldly crow
#

i have same one

obtuse spindle
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and that's some of the best they make

worldly crow
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but in 16

wraith pasture
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same otroud, ddr4-3200 cas16 here LUL

dense dew
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Yeah im kinda going for rgb stuff... don’t harass me lmao

harsh tundra
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the ram i posted is the same but cheeper and it has 2 dummy sticks to fill the empty sockets

obtuse spindle
#

cries in DDR3-1600

dense dew
#

HAHAHA

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ddr3.... why

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Upgrade man

harsh tundra
obtuse spindle
#

wipes away tears of unending poverty

dense dew
#

Lmao

obtuse spindle
#

that amazon link

worldly crow
#

comments say its samsung bdie so definately good ram

obtuse spindle
#

i can't actually find Gigabyte's AORUS RGB kit on newegg

dense dew
obtuse spindle
brave epoch
#

what would be a good watercooler for a 2080 ti

obtuse spindle
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which waterblock?

brave epoch
#

that one was the one i was looking at

obtuse spindle
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EK makes the best water cooling gear

brave epoch
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ok thanks

obtuse spindle
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for sure, man

brave epoch
#

thanks

worldly crow
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just make sure on ek site that it fits your card. make sure your numbers match

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i have evga so any founders will work

dense flicker
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ok i got a question

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sometimes ill turn on my computer and things like roblox will say the graphics driver is too old and minecraft just wont boot and things run slowly

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i open the nvidia control panel and this happens

dreamy dragonBOT
#

GG @dense flicker, you just advanced to level 1!

dense flicker
#

my gpu is literally just not being used

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but when i restart every thing fixes itself

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imma restart my computer brb

weary kayak
#

ok

fleet bolt
#

for a nvidia 1660 is the ti worth it?

oblique cypress
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yes

fleet bolt
#

it only cots like 40 more and its a bit betetr

novel scaffold
#

It's not using the Nvidia GPU because your Intel Gfx are set to be the priority @dense flicker

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You could try to disable the Intel Gpu in Bios or remove it from your display adapters

dense flicker
#

u sure abt that?

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this only happens sometimes

topaz hornet
#

@dense flicker since it is a laptop I don’t think that would be a good idea, your battery wouldn’t last much

dense flicker
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i never use it on battery

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the battery lasts like 5 minutes on that thing

topaz hornet
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Lol

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Then you can disable the iGPU and use it like a desktop PC

novel scaffold
#

I know it's possible since my R5 2400G used it's iGPU at the start as well.

topaz hornet
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Yeah, it’s possible

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@dense flicker does your laptop have an HDMI port?

dense flicker
#

yes

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i use it for my monitor

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i think its connected to the integrated graphics tho because the monitor still works when i have the gpu issues

topaz hornet
#

Do you game using the monitor?

dense flicker
#

yes

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i use the monitor for everything

topaz hornet
#

And get GPU performance or low iGPU performance?

dense flicker
#

?

topaz hornet
#

Like, let’s say your GPU can run a game at 120FPS on the GPU but only 40 on the iGPU, on the monitor do you get 120 or 40

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Hope that makes sense

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Lol

dense flicker
#

oh

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games dont even launch

topaz hornet
#

Not even when using the laptop display?

dense flicker
#

havent tried that

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ill try it next time i get the issue

topaz hornet
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If you disable the iGPU then you might not be able to use the monitor

dense flicker
#

yeah

violet kite
#

So.

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I have a question.

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My younger brothers birthday is coming up and he's looking at a Vega 56 (or 64 if I'm feeling generous) and I was wondering if anyone has any personal experience with these cards.

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A lot of what I see on them involves sudden high-power draw and problems with lower power PSUs/older PSUs. I feel like that's something that shortens the life of the card and the other components on board.

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Anyone have any tips or advice if I were to consider getting him one of these?

obtuse spindle
#

is there any specific reason he wants the Vega 56?

violet kite
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He's an AMD boy.

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Doesn't want to feed nVidia anymore.

queen fractal
#

yall is the 100 dollar difference between the vega 56 and 64 worth it?

violet kite
#

I'll do some quick numbers for you.

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It's honestly par for the course.

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10% better GPU, basically.

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Userbenchmark is god, by the way.

granite juniper
#

yes

violet kite
#

That kind of percentage increase can do a WHOLE lot for very specific things.

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But also may not affect what you're doing too much.

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It's hit an miss 🤷

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You want bleeding edge tech, go for it.

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You want something sensible, be reserved.

lyric plume
#

Go buy a 2080 for that nonexistent raytracing

obtuse spindle
oblique cypress
#

lol

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least the rx 5000 gonna be better than the radeon

fleet bolt
#

man. I dont know what 1660 i to get. the MSI GEFORCE GTX 1660 TI GAMING X has coil whine but other than that its awesome. idk

oblique cypress
#

they're all similar

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just the clocks are different

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and some minor things but yeah

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whatever looks the best and whatever has the best price for you

fleet bolt
#

k

little slate
#

Evga has the best customer service imo, so I usually go with their cards even if they cost more.

static haven
#

Whats the difference

violet kite
#

The cheaper one has an extra 30 dollars off.

#

They look to be mostly identical though.

#

Oh.

#

The one that's more expensive has a higher OC clock rate.

static haven
#

Oh i see now

violet kite
#

It has around 110 more mhz in it's gaming and OC'd clock rates. So it's most likely slightly more well tuned designed or something.

static haven
#

Btw should a 500gb m.2 enough for just the Os

violet kite
#

The prices on 1 tb ones are pretty solid right now if you don't mind dropping ~100 on em.

little slate
#

500gb would be enough for os and a few games.

prime jay
#

Msi 2080ti gaming X trio, rma after 3 months.....something with VRm

fallen schooner
#

happens

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had a msi 1080 gaming X do that.

little slate
#

I've been reading a lot of negative reviews about msi quality and customer support lately

fallen schooner
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bruh.

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MSI Monitors can stop bullets.

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🙄

prime jay
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I will tell you the difference between EVGA customer service and MSI customer service is truly breathtaking. The guy I called it MSI treated me like an absolute piece of garbage, basically called me a liar and completely contradicted everything the previous rep told me.

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MSI in-house turn around is 15 to 35 days not including number one you to pay to ship it to them and then them to ship it back to you. If I had gone with EVGA the maximum I would have been without a card would have been one week. With an advanced RMA, but with a regular RMA their maximum turnaround is two weeks including shipping 48 hours in house. Lesson learned

wraith pasture
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watch the language @prime jay

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D:

prime jay
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My bad ;) it's Discord. I'm so used to talking to all my friends in this app forgot I was in a professional Channel LOL I apologize if I offended anybody

wraith pasture
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can you edit the s word in that paragraph

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i dont want to delete it, i deleted the f word tho

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@prime jay

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thanks 😄

prime jay
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I'm working on it my friend

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And I take it you deleted my last one and I completely understand why LOL

little slate
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I remember I got an evga gtx 970 before the whole 3.5 gb memory scandal started, when it happened I was outside of their "upgrade" timeframe by almost a month, but they still let me just pay the price difference to upgrade to a 980. Got the new card from them in about a week and just had to pay for shipping to send them my 970

prime jay
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the funny part is all the AIB RMA centers in the US are on the same street in Cali 😂

lyric plume
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@wraith pasture you fricking fricks

granite juniper
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lmao

lyric plume
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how do you survive with only 3gb gpu memory

dry fern
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i have 2

lyric plume
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still

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how do you survive with 2

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i use at least 4gb memory for even r6

heady lion
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Do you really need a graphics card if you’re not going to be playing very intensive games, just let the cpu do everything?

dense flicker
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if youre not doing gaming then no its not super necessary

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get a cpu with integrated graphics tho

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but its generally a good idea to get a video card anyways

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it doesnt have to be a super great one

heady lion
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Ok, if I get an cpu with integrated graphics is it still possible to also get a video card?

dense flicker
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but a cheap video card is better than no video card

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yeah

heady lion
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Because the computer I have has integrated graphics (and it sucks but that’s off topic) and I’m unable to upgrade a single thing in the computer so I’m gonna have to resort to get a better one

novel scaffold
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@heady lion What iGPU do you have?

lyric plume
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my integrated can run the division 2 lol

dreamy haven
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just googled around before coming in here to ask and I didn't see any notices...anyone heard a date for nvidia's pricedrops and release of the RTX 'Supers' ?

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I figured it would precede AMD's release on 7/7 but still nothing solid in tech news, it seems

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is waiting to pounce on an RTX 2070

lone pond
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Nvidia is just fine

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They don’t need to release it

dreamy haven
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...

lone pond
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Wouldn’t expect to see it atleast in this year

dreamy haven
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wow

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you could not be more wrong or clueless, honestly

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you don't follow tech news, do you? lol

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go google nvidia super

lone pond
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Thanks for correcting me

granite juniper
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It’s supposed to be the 2nd, but no confirmed date yet @dreamy haven

novel scaffold
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But you shouldn't upgrade currently, or at least buy any new hardware. Technology will take a few leaps in the next few upcoming months.

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I was thinking of getting a vega 56, but there could be more Navi Cards coming out.

hardy dock
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Is the 1660 ti good for gaming

prime jay
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1080p

little slate
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that depends on a lot of things, like the rest of your hardware, what resolution you're playing at, and overall your definition of "good for gaming"

hardy dock
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Good is 100+

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FPS

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Also 60+

little slate
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at 1080p, on high/ultra settings you should be good with most games

vestal sparrow
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can i play 60+ fps with an 8gb rx 580 and i7 8700k?

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1080p

storm sedge
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maybe

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depends what game xD

harsh tundra
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yes i have the xfx rx 580 8gb

granite juniper
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:l why such a good cpu and lower end gpu?

vestal sparrow
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lol spent all my gpu money on high end peripherals

harsh tundra
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It is actualy a good midrange gpu

obtuse spindle
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580 is fantastic price to performance

granite juniper
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Yeah, but the 8700k is like2.5% times the price of the card. It’s a solid card, but the 8700k is a lot higher end on the spectrum

novel scaffold
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Yeah, Sapphire has better quality cards. My RX 580 4Gb Outperforms some of the 8Gb Models, the Vram OC's to 2250 Mhz, which is max. My Core also goes to 1461 with the Vram.

lone pond
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do u guys know any way that i can connect my graphics card to my laptop?

novel scaffold
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Does it have Thunderbolt 3

lone pond
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what?

novel scaffold
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Or an Express Card Slot

lone pond
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i am kinda new in tech soooooo......................

novel scaffold
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Do you have the link to the laptop?

lone pond
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i bought it second hand

novel scaffold
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Ah...

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One sec.

lone pond
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k

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1 sec aswell

novel scaffold
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Try that one.

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@lone pond Did you find it...

lone pond
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1 sec i was away

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where on the keyboard is "Break"?

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im kinda new to laptops and stuff

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sry if i dont know

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@novel scaffold

novel scaffold
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Break isn't a key...

lone pond
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Tip: Press the Windows Logo + Break keys to quickly open the Windows System Information window. On some laptops, you may need to press Windows Logo + Fn + Break. If your laptop keyboard doesn't have the Break key, follow the instructions below. thats what it said

lone pond
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guys. i know its 2019, but hear me out. my gpu is a factory oem AMD HD 8570

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and im gonna upgrade soon. by upgrade i mean anything that'll handle minecraft wit mods lmaooo

granite juniper
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Hey mines a intel iris Hd 6100

lone pond
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and i was wondering wat i should look into. where i live people are tryna get away with selling gtx 960s for $120 and thats just insane.

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i feel u lad

fallen schooner
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@lone pond what other pc specs.. cpu.. ram.. psu

lone pond
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oh it's a dell optiplex 9020 so i7 4770, 8 gb ddr3, i couldn't tell ya the psu and the gpu is a amd HD 8570

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i got the whole puter, with window10 all for $120 and im so happy @fallen schooner

fallen schooner
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1050ti would probably be the best bet for you.

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anything more than that you'll start bottlenecking things.

lone pond
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yeah i figured a 1050ti or even a rx 570 if i can get my hands on one

fallen schooner
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yeah.